ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 19th March, 2025

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

White Lotus make up artist reveals glitter secret Shannon's F'd up nachos Top 6 Things I'd do when I first get back to earth How Gen Z really feel about feminism Hayley learnt a new song What do you f...eel too old for? Scheduling Instagram DM's BNB Budgeting 101 SLP - Crumbed or battered fish Did you survive the cheating? Fact of the Day Hayley working in public dramas Cosmo's first date ideas?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:33 this is Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley's Big Pod. Thanks to Animates, making happy happen for pets. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Thanks Bryn. Two minutes past six. Good morning. Welcome to the show.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Happy Wednesday. Happy Wednesday. Hump day. We don't say hump day. Do we not? Kids in the car. How am I supposed to explain humping?
Starting point is 00:01:01 It's not about humping. Oh. It's about this is we're over the hump. I personally hate it so much every time anybody says it. I know, Vaud hates it. That's why we don't say it. Vaud hates it. I've been vigilant with my humping every Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:01:12 I thought that's what it meant. No, it's like the hump in the midweek. Midweek hump. The top six is coming up. The astronauts, are they on their way back right now? Have they touched down? Have they splashed down? What's the latest?
Starting point is 00:01:24 Last night when I was looking and when I got the idea for the top six, they had departed the International Space Station, but I don't know how long it takes to fall that far. They're heading back now, I believe. Imagine that shower. That first shower back home. Maybe shut up. What?
Starting point is 00:01:42 Because it's the top six first things'd do when I get home from space. Sorry. Forget I didn't say it. Forget I said it. Back to the drawing board. No, I got the top six things I'd do if I was an astronaut who was just getting back to Earth after like nine months. I can't wait to see all the research about it.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Like how they're internally affected. Did you hear about the South African Antarctic Research Station? No. No. Did everyone disappear? Someone lost their mind. Like they were getting shut in for like the next six months or whatever. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:17 They were about to start that thing where the weather gets so like insane. And somebody was like swinging an axe. Whoa. South Africans, eh? I don't think it's the fact they were South African. It's the second time it's happened. It's the second time it's happened at this research station. Last time, a guy proposed to a woman.
Starting point is 00:02:31 She said no. He put an axe through her laptop. Okay. So I think now we can say South Africans, eh? Wow. You should read it. It was on the news. And I was just like, this feels like just such.
Starting point is 00:02:44 There's more to this. I feel like they need to look at their screening. They do. They do the tests. They do the tests of like, what's isolation going to do to this person? Da da da da da da.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I suppose you can't really anticipate that kind of isolation. Until it's, and it only just started. Well, no axes in space. Maybe that's why it hasn't happened in space. And if you swung in space
Starting point is 00:03:03 with all the lag of like, lack of gravity, you'd be like, you just swung in space All the lag of like Lack of gravity You'd be like You'd just That'd pretty swing you right? Yeah And then you'd just look really overdramatic And everyone would be like
Starting point is 00:03:12 Calm down Calm down How do they start How do they cut their firewood in space though? No axe I don't know I think that they take it pre-cut Pre-cut
Starting point is 00:03:21 That must be expensive For the fire They get the kindling from the service station on the way? Yeah, pre-cut. We'll delve into the top six soon on the show, but next. The White Lotus
Starting point is 00:03:30 head of makeup is not gatekeeping and the girlies are very happy. Play ZM's Flashborn and Hayley. We... Now, I'm behind
Starting point is 00:03:38 on White Lotus because I just don't have time for TV at the moment. I'm a busy gal. Okay? I told you. So don't say anything.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I've got a few week-to-weeks on the go and I can't do too many week-to-weeks. I have to wait till the whole series is out and so I can just watch it all. And White Lotus is one of those ones. But you showed me the scene with Sam Rockwell yesterday. 12.5 Vaughan Smith. Absolute favourite.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Does no wrong. You love him. I'm worried it's going to be too much to watch all at once. Oh yeah, maybe. If it's that sort of level of intensity. It is very intense. Yeah. I mean, that's White Lotus. Yeah. Well, you know, the storyline's great, the
Starting point is 00:04:15 acting's phenomenal, the suspense, the drama of the show, we love it, but the girlies are noticing the make-up this season because we're in Thailand and it's always the late night parties, the full moon parties. Yeah, so that was the latest episode is a bunch of them went to the full moon party.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Correctamundo. Oh, really? In that. Which looked a lot more classier than the full moon parties I'd been to back in the day. Yeah, I've only ever been to one and not a lot of class was had. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:04:41 Or on display. A lot of fluoros though. You've got to wear your fluoros. You've got to wear your fluoros. You've got to wear your fluoros. But everyone, all the girlies were like, this makeup look, particularly on Amy Lou Wood,
Starting point is 00:04:51 who plays Chelsea. She's got the gap in her teeth. Yeah. She was the one in Sex Ed, right? Sex Education. Yeah. She is so good in this. But everyone was like,
Starting point is 00:05:00 the makeup, the makeup, the makeup, the makeup. Because she's got this like, party vibe, glittery eye colour. The makeup artist was like, the makeup, the makeup, the makeup, the makeup, because she's got this like party vibe, glittery eye colour. The makeup artist was like, I'll tell you exactly what I used. And it is the Space Paste, that's the brand. Glitter Concentrate by Lemonhead in Los Angeles. Now, girlies, when I talked about this to you, you knew what this was immediately.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Yeah, Lemonhead is a huge brand. Like, the prettiest glitters in the world. They come in, like, little palettes. Or you can get them in little one-offs. This sounds like it's getting all over everything in the house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably. You would be so blessed.
Starting point is 00:05:36 But, like, look, look, look, look, look. Look at the glitter on that. Like, I'm going to need to purchase. It would look beautiful on your flesh. No, because you looked at the price because it's not available in New Zealand, eh? Well, this is for one small pothole
Starting point is 00:05:51 80 New Zealand dollars. Yeah, and like I think to get your money's worth, you want to get the palettes that have like each different colour, different types of glitters. Yeah, and what was that? About $4.50, yeah. American? Yeah. We're heading towards.50, yeah. American? Yeah. But if you sign up...
Starting point is 00:06:06 We're heading towards $1,000. Yeah, but if you sign up with an email, you get 15% off. Oh my God, a Shannon 15. I just thought. We've got a Shannon 15. We've got a Shannon 15, do we? Well, I did just see,
Starting point is 00:06:16 so because very soon, I'm going to be going to Australia, and you can get it in Australia, and you're going to be going to Los Angeles. Would you perhaps pop into Lemonhead Fletch and bring home a bunch of glitter for your girlfriend? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:06:30 He's going to Lemonhead anyway. Do you want to get a Glit Glit? He goes to a lot of glitter parties. And could we split it five ways cost-wise and then we can eat, share the palette. We'll have a studio palette. I just thought that Daddy Fletch was going to use his big EF postcard. to use his big F postcard.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Oh, no. His big steel F postcard. It is the worst when you go somewhere and someone's like, can you just go and buy me something and I'll pay you back? Oh, yeah. It's just admin. I don't mind a duty free, but if it's a location shop. Yeah, like going somewhere on your holiday.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Yeah, if you're like going to the Grove. But I'm just saying. There's one there. I'll have a look. Find a store. So where are you going? Do you know what I mean? No, I'm just like going to the Grove. But I'm just saying. And there's one there, I'll have a look. Find a store. So where are you going? Do you know what I mean? No, I'm just going to be really busy.
Starting point is 00:07:10 How much glitter costs? No, so there's like, there's so many dupes. Like Emco Beauty do a glitter dupe, which is at Chemist Warehouse. Yeah, show sponsor. Yeah, there's all, I've got like heaps of glitter ones, but it's just not quite the same. But people want the white lotus one, don't they? People want the white lotus one because it's amazing. Well, there's all, I've got like heaps of glitter ones, but it's just not quite the same. But people want the white lotus one,
Starting point is 00:07:26 People want the white lotus one because it's amazing. Well, it's called Lemonhead. Lemonhead's the brand. Are you going to get some glitz? No, no, I was just about to say, I bet it's exactly the same stuff you've just fallen for like marketing and branding.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Shut up. Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughn and Hayley. Shannon, she's our producer if you've just woken up from a coma. Oh, you, hello. Thank God you's our producer if you've just woken up from a coma. Hello. Thank God you're alive. If you've just woken up from a coma, this is Hayley. We've got a producer called Shannon and we've got to kind of look after her
Starting point is 00:07:54 because she's an adult and all, actually not all sense, one sense, the numbers. The number. Have you ever seen a giraffe fall out of a mother and then learn how to walk quite quickly? Yeah. That's our baby Shannon. Stumbling around.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Figuring it all out. Two metres tall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our group chat is called Shannon's Guardians. Yeah. Because quite often we are her guardians. Yeah, her household living, her choices, her hacks.
Starting point is 00:08:22 We look out for her. So what did you make for dinner last night, Shannon? I tried to make nachos. Nachos we talk about as a regular on the cycle, all of us. Love nachos. It's so easy. They're the best. It's that easy as dinner.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Spicy mints and chips. Aside from a stir fry, it's the easiest thing to make. It's even easier. Stir fry is easy to eat. Yeah, I think it's easier than stir fry. Yeah, yeah. Because sometimes stir fry goes a little soupish. Yeah, it does. And you I think it's easier than stir fry. Yeah, yeah. Because sometimes stir fry goes a little soupish.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Yeah, it does. And you're like, why aren't you frying? Yeah, come on goop. Come on goop packet. Yeah, come on goop. Why have you gone so watery?
Starting point is 00:08:54 Goop? Yeah, come on goop. I bought you so you were goopy. Yeah. Everything else is dry. Where else is all this water coming from?
Starting point is 00:09:01 And it's not burning off. Anyway. It's damn courgettes. So nachos last night. What meat did you use? Mints, obviously. I will say, I've done a beef mince before and I did good. Like, I know how to do it.
Starting point is 00:09:14 This tells me that last night wasn't beef mince, was it? No, so the dairy ran out of mince. Why are you going to a dairy? I'm sorry, you don't buy dairy. These are the things you don't buy from a dairy. Mints. Meat and produce. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:09:31 An old brown banana if the supermarket's closed. If the banana's got dust on it and it's brown, it's been there for a while. Well, as you know, I don't have a freezer and I don't really have a full fridge, so I live day to day. But you also live so close to a supermarket. There's supermarkets everywhere.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yeah, but it's heavy carrying stuff. Mints? How much mints is she buying? So I went to the dairy. No mints. Panicked. But I'd bought the corn chips already and the seasoning. So she's committed to nachos.
Starting point is 00:10:00 I'm committed. But no mints. Oh, God. Here we go. Here we go. Cereal, dairy cereal nachos. Yeah, yeah, with spice. Well, I knew I knew how. But no mints. Oh, God. Here we go. Here we go. Cereal, dairy cereal nachos. Yeah, yeah, with spice. Well, I knew I knew how to cook a chicken breast,
Starting point is 00:10:09 so I bought chicken breast. And I just chopped it up. Again, a dairy selling chicken breast? Yeah. Do they have stickers on them that say, like, use, buy, and sell? Yeah. I suppose it's Central.
Starting point is 00:10:19 No. It's a dairy. It's a dairy. It's on the back of City Mission. So I think it's for. It's ensured. Yeah, right. People doing it tough. It's a dairy. It's on the back of City Mission, so I think it's for... People doing it tough. Like Shannon. For different reasons.
Starting point is 00:10:31 The entire tough spectrum. So I bought a chicken breast, I cut it up real small and then I put seasoning on it. Okay, this is fine. We can work with this. You cut it up real small like you were trying to make mints? Sounds diced to me. Feels diced.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Small dice, yeah. Okay. Feels like you should have put it in your Nutribullet, I'll be honest, to really mince it. Oh, I don't have appliances. Okay, that's right. So I chopped it up real small, put the seasoning powder on it, and it was dry. So I thought how to make it wet. Shocking, eh?
Starting point is 00:11:00 That powder and chicken breast would be dry. Yeah. That's shocking. So I thought the best way to make something not dry is add water. Tomato. Okay. So I went to the sink and poured some water.
Starting point is 00:11:12 So she's got a sink for anyone who can count. Yeah. That's good. No appliance to be seen, but a sink. Fuel. She's in prison, by the way. That puts her somewhat at rest. So I pour some water into the pan
Starting point is 00:11:22 and then suddenly it made soup Real quick And I panicked because I was like I want a nachos Not chicken soup You've put in too much water Spicy Mexican chicken soup Yeah so I just let it cook for ages And hoping it would cook off the water That chicken's dust now
Starting point is 00:11:38 I mean it's dairy chicken It was dry before you cooked it No but the worst part is what happened was It took all the seasoning off the chicken. Yeah, that's what water will do. Water not only makes things wet, it also washes them. Yeah, it washed the chicken. So I had poached chicken in a bunch of watery seasoning.
Starting point is 00:11:58 So then I was like, I'll add tomatoes. You should have done the tomatoes first. High insight. Wait, what did you just say? High insight. Say it again. High insight. No, say it again.
Starting point is 00:12:13 What's a good thing? High insight. High insight. Oh, Han, it's hindsight. In hindsight. What's the hind? Hind, like behind. Behind you.
Starting point is 00:12:26 You're looking back on an experience and you see it differently because you've already lived through it. I thought it was high insight when you can look down and reflect. Well, Carl was so embarrassed he's not even looking at you. So you're looking at bird's eye view. I'm looking over it and I can see I should have done tomatoes first. It's in high insight. High insight.
Starting point is 00:12:42 A bird's eye view. A bird's eye view of the entire situation. That's the new show. We don't say it. We don't say hindsight anymore on the show. We say in high insight. A bird's eye view. A bird's eye view of the entire situation. That's the new show. We don't say it. We don't say hindsight. We say in high sight. We say in high insight. I kind of, I, you know, the logic behind it is not forward.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I was looking down and reflecting. The tomatoes kind of just. Like an angel. Like an out-of-body experience. Jesus. Okay, so now we've got soup and we've added tomatoes to the soup. And now we're high ceiling low down on the sound. And it kind of just was really watery
Starting point is 00:13:05 and at that point I just was like, I'll eat it. Because I knew the chicken was cooked. Yeah. Well, I just had them on a plate.
Starting point is 00:13:12 At this point, I was like- Wait, you didn't pour the soup over the chips? No, no. I kind of scooped them. Okay. So then I was like,
Starting point is 00:13:19 I messaged Carl when saying, only divas mess up nachos. So easy. Oh, yeah. I love how this generation can just write anything off like, I've really messed this up. It is soos. So easy. Oh, yeah. I love how this generation can just write anything off like I've really messed this up.
Starting point is 00:13:27 It is so me. I'm such a boss babe. Yeah, yeah. Boss babes don't do that. Miss Boss Babe made super mistake. She kind of replied as you guys did saying how. And I sent a video which I like, as I was sending it,
Starting point is 00:13:42 I was like, why am I sending you this? This is horrific. It was like, I need to see the video. No, I can't because I was sending it, I was like, why am I sending you this? This is horrific. It was like. I need to see the video. No, I can't because I also made guac and it was like brown. Oh, no. Where'd you get your avocados from? The dairy?
Starting point is 00:13:52 The dairy. Hey, look, in high insight. High insight. High insight. We don't buy anything. It was yum, though. And I will say I ate it all and my partner loved it, too. But he doesn't really cook.
Starting point is 00:14:04 So I think it was just kind of like crap off the floor because you made it. I've got mates that don't cook and when they don't like something they weigh up do I want to do this or do I just want to eat? Listen I had all the components there. The water was a mistake but besides that I made nachos.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Well now we know. High in sight. We don't add water. High in sight. We don't add water. High in sight. No water. Play. ZM. Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. From the Notes app on Vaughn's phone, this is the Top 6. Hello there, astronauts. Astronauts, astronauts.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Boy, we're about to have some more come home. Including the two that were stranded aboard the International Space Station for nine months. Because remember, it was a Boeing capsule and then they couldn't get back on it because it leaked or something. Not a great... Boeing's not having a great time, are they? Not a great period for Boeing. Really not.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Not a great period for Boeing. Anyway, they are going to be touching back down Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore. Yeah, I think they've got about 15 hours left. Yeah. Long flight. Hope you downloaded a show, you know. Yeah, got to watch something.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Well, I've got the top six things I would do upon getting back to Earth. Because it's a great... I can't think of a better planet to live on. What would you have first? Do you have a meal in this top six? Yes, I certainly do. Top six things I'd do when I go back to
Starting point is 00:15:25 earth. Number six on the list, smash a big fat greasy burger. I was just going to say, mine would be a big cordy pea. I need something
Starting point is 00:15:34 like pub grub specialty, big ass. If I landed back and Wellington was having that burger thing, it does. Burger on a plate. Wellington on a
Starting point is 00:15:43 plate. The burger competition where there's just, I just be like, and I want the grease like dripping down my hands so much. Like White Lady?
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But do you reckon your body would be used to all this weird, dehydrated, hasty food? You'd cramp immediately and then probably
Starting point is 00:15:58 shit your pants. Yeah. But it'd be so worth it. It'd be worth it. Yeah. Number five on the list of the top six things I'd do when I got back to Earth
Starting point is 00:16:04 after a nine month hiatus. Probably. Number five on the list of the top six things I'd do when I got back to Earth after a nine-month hiatus. Probably have a little squizz of adult content, if I'm being completely honest. Do you think there's not the hub up in space? I don't think there's not the hub. There's no privacy, Hayley. You're just going to use your mind. Yeah. What am I, a teenager?
Starting point is 00:16:21 Yeah. What is this, the 60s? Yeah. Number four on the list of the top six things I do first got back to Earth, I'm scheduling a blowout. Oh, yeah. Getting the blowout of some power.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Are we scheduling a blowout for Friday? And we live on Earth. This Friday. Yeah. I'm not doing a Friday blowout. Because I'm going to a party with not many clothes on. So I think I need to have a couple of drinks.
Starting point is 00:16:40 I can't say anything about it. I'll loosen up. Okay. Schedule a blowout. Number three on the list of the top six things I'd do if I got back to Earth after being gone for nine months, but I only plan to be gone for a few days. Just find
Starting point is 00:16:54 a really big canyon, I'm thinking the Grand Canyon, and just scream into the abyss. I just think it'd feel really good to scream into the abyss. Because if you screamed on the space station it's like... It would ding, ding, ding off all the hard surfaces and people would be like, hey, outside! And then you
Starting point is 00:17:10 go into a spacewalk and you scream and no one can hear you because of the vacuum of space. But it's blasting back in your own face. I think it would feel good just to... You were literally in a tin can in the infinite size of space.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yet, you'd feel so confined. It'd be nice to go somewhere nature-y. Nature-y, huge, open, and just scream into nothing. A beautiful native bush in New Zealand, eh? With all the sounds and the moisture. Moisture. Number two on the list of the top six things I'd do if I go back to Earth after nine months. Go for a swim.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Or just submerge myself in water. But I haven't been submerged in water. A bath. A really long hot shower. A spa pool. I love swims. I love swims when I'm hungover. So nice. Ocean. What season is it where they're landing? Heading towards spring.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I'd be here. Chuck yourself in the ocean and then a spa. Even a cold ocean yeah frosty frosty ocean you just feel again and number one on the list of the top six things I'd do
Starting point is 00:18:10 if I first got back to earth from a nine month hiatus in space probably miss space for some weird psychological reason and immediately sign back up to go back into space yeah you know like prisoners get out of prison
Starting point is 00:18:21 and they're like what do I do out of prison they sleep on the floor yeah these guys aren't going back to space, eh? They need to go back to prison. They're not going back up. I could have had enough.
Starting point is 00:18:27 On the older end of the scale for what? She's done a lot of space. She's already done a lot of space. Yeah. But that'd be me. I'd retire. I'm done. Space addicts.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I'd go do some talks somewhere. Do they? Bag talks, yeah. Would they be getting some kind of compensation for the fact that it all went wrong, and they've been up there so long? I don't know. Nah, I don't think so. But you know, like, part of the job.
Starting point is 00:18:46 They would forever be able to do talks on resilience. Yeah, yeah. People all planning on it. Today's speaker is someone that got stuck in space for nine months here at our real estate concert, Conference to Teach You Resilience. Ray White, please welcome Suni Williams. Hello, hello.
Starting point is 00:19:05 Resilience is the word of the hour. When I was up in space looking down on Earth, I was always thinking, boy, you could squeeze some more houses in there and then sell them.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Thanks for having me. That is today's Top 6. I found this article on feminism shocking, to say the least. And they called it, they said, we are living in, quote, a fresh hell of an anti-feminist cultural backlash. Anti-feminist. Fresh hell of an anti-feminist cultural backlash.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Big words. Yeah. So basically, this was some research done out of the States looking at how we're viewing feminism and, you know, a number of years ago with Me Too and body positivity and people coming in, like women's equality and all this, you know, we were very vocal about it. And I think as a world we agreed.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And people say, well, I'm a feminist. I'm definitely a feminist. And now it's shifting. We're going back a little bit. They're saying it's a very clear shift. There's a lot of stuff happening online with the trad wife stuff that young people like Gen Zers are getting into, sort of becoming more of a serving role in a relationship, a traditional relationship. Which is why, Shannon, you've gone down the trad wife route with your soupy nachos.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah, cooking for your man. Cooking for your man. I decide that will make him love me more, is curried nachos. Curried nachos. Yeah. Soggy nacho chips. If I could stay at home all day and be the homemaker, I think I would, but I don't think I'd be good enough for it. I think he'd ask for a refund.
Starting point is 00:20:45 You could get better. You could practice. I didn't think I was that bad until I started telling people. And then I'm like, actually, I'm not great at cooking. I don't want you to cook for me. I'll say it. I could do lolly cake. Lolly cake.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Now she makes a good lolly cake. I'll be a trad wife for lolly cake and lolly cake. She's a feeder. So this study that they did wasn't just America that they questioned. It was a global study looking at feminism and gender equality and 39%
Starting point is 00:21:16 of Gen Z women thought that feminism has gone too far and is now just discriminating against men. But it's the case with anything, right? Like it gets, in the early days, people start getting on board
Starting point is 00:21:33 and there's a little bit of a groundswell and then it gets popular and then it gets too popular and when something gets too popular, it's human nature to pull against it. Totally. And then the same force that started pushing it starts pulling it back.
Starting point is 00:21:45 It's kind of this pendulum effect. It's why here at the show, we've never aimed to succeed. That's right. We're happy to sit. Diddle in the middle. Mundane. Yep. Right down the middle. Average. Consistent. Get too popular, people will cut you down. There's a woman here, but it's not too many.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Exactly. We're just average, Jo. Listen to this too many. We're exactly, we're just average, Joe. Listen to this, though. In the US, young female voters were 7% more likely to vote for Trump this election than they were four years ago. Which is wild, eh? Young women. And you're like, but all the stuff that he was talking about was like women's body rights and everything. And you're like, how?
Starting point is 00:22:22 So the bloody Gen Zers, they're turning against their own fight, basically, and saying, oh, no, feminism's gone too far. We can calm down a bit. No, you know me. I love men. Because it went like millennials started shifting away from homophobic slurs and stuff. Gen Xers, they loved them.
Starting point is 00:22:40 They loved a casual racist and a homophobic slur. Oh, my God. Huge fans. Yeah. Huge fans. So then millennials that are working kind of against it and then Gen Z's like, we don't say that. And then I hear some of the language coming out of like kids that my kids go to school with. And I'm like, sir. Oh, I know. Sir, we do not say the R word. We don't say the F word. We don't say the F word. Oh, I know.
Starting point is 00:23:05 We don't say those anymore. We haven't for years. Also just calling things gays back. Yeah. I've seen it online. I've seen kids being like, ooh, that's so gay. I was like, wait, what? No, that was done in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:23:16 We're done with that. Yeah. Anyway, look, here at the show, we are just neutral feminists. Neutral feminists. We're neutral feminists. We're just.. Aren't we? We're neutral feminists. Feminist light. We're diet feminists. We're beta.
Starting point is 00:23:28 We're beta. Diet feminists. Feminist zero. Feminist zero. Feminist zero. Feminist no sugar. Done. Easy.
Starting point is 00:23:36 ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Well, look, listen, I am making a brand new show. It's called The Baroness. You can find tickets at hayleysbrow.com for Wellington and Auckland. Yeah, part of the comedy feast. Wild that you'd be bold enough to sell tickets to a show that you've not even completed. I know. No guarantee it's going to be any good.
Starting point is 00:23:55 No. And yet, I'm trying to make it as good as possible. But I've had almost too much time. Do you know what I mean? And I need the pressure of time. And that's come. Like, this is what that time is. Yeah. I've got to too much time. Do you know what I mean? And I need the pressure of time. And that's come. Like this is what that time is. I've got to get it made.
Starting point is 00:24:09 So yesterday I was like, I really need to be focusing on music because I play piano and sing songs in my shows. The show you can come and see, hayleysprout.com for tickets. And yesterday I was like, I've got to work on this particular song. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And sat at the piano, everything's right. Like, headphones plugged in, this is here, da-da-da, laptop's there. And instead of writing the song, I hit a chord and it was C minor. And I was like, C minor? Why does that feel familiar? And then I kept torturing around and eventually,
Starting point is 00:24:43 we'll play it. This is what I figured out. Now, that's not my original song, is it? There's a severance intro. Yeah, good though, isn't it? Isn't it? It's quite good, isn't it? Isn't it weird how something so simple.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Like that's just ding, ding. And because it's attached to such a full noise TV show, it's so simple, but it's so powerful. It's so powerful. Do you know how long that took me? How long? Hour and a half. To work that out?
Starting point is 00:25:16 Yeah. Hayley, you better be working on your show. Because I wanted to do it by ear. You could have looked it up and had it done in five minutes, took that off and got back on the show. But it was so, I knew that I could look it up, just scratch looked it up and had it done in five minutes, took that off and got back on the show. But it was so, I knew that I could look it up, just scratch the itch
Starting point is 00:25:27 and then move on. But I was like, I really need to work this out. It was like key procrastination. I'm terrible, I've always been like this. Awesome. I was always like that
Starting point is 00:25:36 with school homework. But it's the pressure that makes it good. It was when you were like, okay, I've only got four hours left. That's it. Just get it done. I better get a cookie
Starting point is 00:25:43 and a drink. No, I don't want people to think who are going to come and see my show and then bought their tickets on HayleySpro.com. What you've told me so far sounds shit.
Starting point is 00:25:51 No, no, no, no. It sounds like you're going to get halfway through the show and you're just going to play the Severance stuff. Yeah, worse comes to worse
Starting point is 00:25:56 it'll be great. I'll just play Severance. Why not? Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Great thread on the Reddit that is things I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:26:08 oh, I'm too old for this. I'm just getting too old for that. Great list, like clothes that are uncomfortable. Not doing it. Shannon, what was yours that you just mentioned that you already feel too old for? Low-waisted jeans or low-waisted anything. I need it up to my bra line and it needs to be
Starting point is 00:26:26 twit. Twit. Because these young people, they don't have a puku. I'm not going to puku. Yeah. Where does the puku go if it's not tucked into the high-waist pant? Passive-aggressive people, mean people, no time for that nonsense. Crowds.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Vaughan, this is on the list. Don't like it. Don't like them. Just too old for that. Don't like them. You've got, you must have a million things on your list. Oh, everything. Because you don't like going out. Staying up past 10pm, that's on you. Ridiculous. Oh, see, that's yeah, I'll agree with that. I'll stay up past 10pm at home, but if I'm not at home by 10pm,
Starting point is 00:26:58 I'm like, I should be home by then. Staying longer than I want, like feeling obliged to stay at an event. Yeah, or even going. No, I'll just leave. Even going to the event. Nightclubs, obviously, on here. Oh, no. You know, me and the club. I love the club.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Yeah. Nothing makes me happier than paying way too much for a drink, but I'm probably going to get nudged out of my hands on the way back to the place I was standing. Sleeping on a pull-out couch. Oh, no. Although they do those. Have you seen the Ecosa ones?
Starting point is 00:27:26 Yes. They look so good. They go flop, flop. Flop, flop. Yeah. There's no spring. And it's the Ecosa. It's just a big fat.
Starting point is 00:27:33 I think fold-out beds have come a long way. Yeah. But this is a problem when you get an Airbnb with a group of friends and you get the crappy bed. Because you're a single, right? Yeah. A lot of people will be like, well, Fletch, you can go on there. And you're like, no. No. Too old Because you're a single, right? Yeah. A lot of people would be like, well, Fletch, you can go on that. No. No.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Too old for that. I'll just get my own Airbnb. Too old for that. Too old for that shit. Someone said bending my knees. Someone said concerts. You've got to keep the knees bending, guys. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I just love, live music is just amazing. Yeah. High heels, that's me. I'm too old for that. And I just, there's no need. Have you ever really done high heels I will when I MC an event
Starting point is 00:28:06 right to add a level of class but going out to a party club anything never no way
Starting point is 00:28:13 boots always too old for that too old for that and someone else said dear shit I'm just too old for dear shit for just everything
Starting point is 00:28:20 for just everything for just everything so I'm sure we all have many of these and that's what we want to ask this morning what is the thing that you're like I'm too old for that now you know we just can't everything. So I'm sure we all have many of these, and that's what we want to ask this morning. What is the thing that you're like, I'm too old for that now? You know, we just can't be having that. I'm too old.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Just everything. Everything. Everything. You've got to get out of the house more. No, I don't know. I'm trying. But, nah. Too old for that.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Yeah, too old for that. Oh, someone just texted in, bloody camping, too old for that. So I'm not sleeping in a sack. Oh, no, that'll make you feel young again. Just, yeah. Too old for that. Oh, someone just texted in, bloody camping, too old for that, so I'm not sleeping in a sack. Oh, no, that'll make you feel young again. I love this, too old for sleeping in a sack held up with sticks. Held up with sticks.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Well, you've been camping at the weekend in lockdown. I've been camping, and I'm going camping again this weekend. I've been camping a few times lately. I think it's great. Yep. I don't know, there's something freeing about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Okay, well, I'll... You know, my mate who's on the run down on the west coast of the North Island with his kids. I was just talking to him last night. Oh, were you? Yeah, he hiked to the... So, do you have contact with him? Yeah, he hiked to the top of the hill
Starting point is 00:29:12 so he could get a cell call out and gave me a call. He's having a great time camping as well. Is he? Yeah. God, why haven't they caught them? 0800-DONALDZM is the number. Give us a call. You can text through 9696.
Starting point is 00:29:24 What do you feel way too old for right now? We want to know what you feel way too old for. There's a great thread on Reddit, people sharing things from going to the clubs to just bending down and picking something up. What are you feeling too old for at the moment? A lot of messages in. Someone said I'm too old for Snapchat.
Starting point is 00:29:42 That's fair enough. I was out of the Snapchat game until my daughter got it, and then I was like, well, that's how I communicate with her now. Now you've got streaks now. Streaks. When it opens, I'm like, what is all the things? There's so many things. Who are these people?
Starting point is 00:29:57 I don't follow any of these people. Yeah, I don't want to age up, but also I'm like that with TikTok. I'm like, where's the tab for the things that are mine and the things I follow and do? How is your TikTok going for your comedy? I'm like that with TikTok. I'm like, where's the tab for the things that are mine and the things I follow and do? How is your TikTok going for your comedy? I'm really struggling. I'm posting and it's just not working. I don't know it.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I don't know what to do. Yeah. Anyway, it sucks. I'm 47 years old and I'm too old for the latest Call of Duty. Just can't keep up with the kids anymore and sometimes I feel a little bit sick. Oh, no. The graphics are too good. The graphics are too good.
Starting point is 00:30:25 The graphics are too good. It feels too good. It gives you a little bit of... Queuing up for shit, somebody said. Oh, you can't be bothered. I'm not doing a queue. I never do a queuing up. Mel, good morning.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Hi, guys. This is the same... You feel the same way about queuing? Oh, my God. Like, yes. So, I take the children into the mall and I walk
Starting point is 00:30:47 towards the new Cinnabon. Oh, yum. And I'm just like, oh, I know, the smell, right? Oh, yeah. It's yum.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Gets you. But, yeah. But then I see that queue and I'm like, nah, I'm sorry. Too often, this. Yeah, I've only got 40 years left.
Starting point is 00:31:05 And I'm not spending it lining up. For a Cinnabon. Although yum, though. Although yum. Mel, thank you. More messages in. I love that. Perspective on life.
Starting point is 00:31:14 I'm not queuing up. 40 years left. I recently found out I'm too old to be drinking cool lime cruisers. Yeah. Someone woke up the next day and was like, what have I done? The sugar, eh? Like, that headache. Too old to be this hungover at work as I randomly find myself this morning. Aww. Yeah. Someone woke up the next day and was like, what have I done? The sugar, eh? Like, that headache.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Too old to be this hungover at work as I randomly find myself this morning. Oh, what a winter day. On a Tuesday night, you went big. The moment I went for taco Tuesday, there might have been some margis. Maybe. Yeah, true. Oh, listen, allowed cars go too fast down my street at night. Too old for that. Too old to pander to the patriarchy.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Yeah. Yeah, okay. You take them down. Too old to pretend I like food that I don't like because I'll just be like, I don't like this. I don't want to eat it. I'm not going to eat it. I'm too old.
Starting point is 00:31:59 I'm too old for Instagram. Too many teeny boppers on there requesting my friendship and I look at their page and their bio has hot face on it. No thanks, love. I'm not old for Instagram. Too many teeny boppers on there requesting my friendship and I look at their page and their bio has hot face on it. No thanks, love. I'm not a sugar mama. I have not heard the term teeny bopper in such a long time. Oh, look at all these little teeny boppers. Is this someone getting hit on like a cougar,
Starting point is 00:32:16 getting hit on by guys? Yeah. Okay. Some of us could only dream. Just checking my DMs. Nope. Two hour sex marathons. Too old for that shit.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Too old for that. Work Bessie, who's seven years younger than me, loved to gloat about her late night antics. No thanks, love. I need my sleep. Otherwise, I'll wake up and my undies will be on inside out. You could just get it done a lot quicker. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:43 It's a long time. Yeah. I mean, you divvy up the time. I'm too old to learn anything new. I always tell young people my brain's full and there's no room for new stuff, especially anything involving... You've got to keep learning, otherwise the brain shuts down, doesn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:58 I'm too old for life. It's very tiring. Oh, darling. It is tiring. It is tiring. Sometimes it feels like that is life. Like, today is only Wednesday. No, it's not. It's Friday,. Oh, darling. It is tiring. It is tiring. Sometimes it feels like that is life. Like today is only Wednesday. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:33:08 It's Friday, you dumb idiot. It's not. It's Wednesday. But it's a privilege. Yeah. It is a privilege. It's a privilege. To live every moment.
Starting point is 00:33:15 But my back hurts. Yes. And my Botox is wearing off. Do you know what I mean? I'm too old to tooth my toilet paper. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I'm also too old for running out of toilet paper because I've got two preteens
Starting point is 00:33:26 and they go through so much toilet paper, my husband will buy cheaper toilet paper, but then there's no toilet paper or it's two-ply toilet paper. No, you've got to go the long rolls. That's not good. No, they're too heavy on my, I've got quite a delicate, dainty handle. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Holder, yeah. I feel too old to be going to work. I'm 44. How much longer do they want out of me? 21 years, I think. Yeah, 21 years. And to be honest, if you're 44 how much longer do they want out of me? 21 years 21 years and to be honest if you're 44 by the time you get to 65
Starting point is 00:33:48 it's probably going to be 69 yeah these boomers are going to bleed us dry yeah sorry somebody else said oh yeah too old
Starting point is 00:33:57 to sit behind a car that's so low it has to go over the hump sideways what? yes come on come on god yes I'm too old to book anything important on my phone sideways. Come on! Come on!
Starting point is 00:34:05 God, yes. I'm too old to book anything important on my phone. I need the full PC sitting there. Yes! That's good, though. You're booking some flights this weekend. Are you going to book on the laptop or the phone? On the big laptop. On the big laptop. I would never book a big thing on a phone.
Starting point is 00:34:22 You've got to get out the big dog. Why don't you just try it on a phone? Because I'll stuff it up. You need to see the big thing on a phone. You've got to get out the big dog. Why don't you just try it on a phone? Because I'll stuff it up. You need to see the big, the full picture. The big screen. And all the tabs. Right. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley.
Starting point is 00:34:32 So Instagram, they're always adding little new features, and I like it. It's my chosen social media of choice. I like it. I understand it. It's sleek. It's plain. TikTok is an absolute mess. Right. It's sleek, it's plain. TikTok is an absolute mess.
Starting point is 00:34:45 It's doing too much. You don't like TikTok because you haven't been able to take off with your comedy on TikTok. There's been sometimes I posted something to TikTok and I was like, brace yourselves, guys. I may be leaving my job pretty soon. Somebody's just messaged in saying, is this new feature on Instagram, the repost button?
Starting point is 00:35:03 Because it's now in a space of the share button that's moved up. Okay, so do you know what? Our friend James accidentally shared quite a savage gay meme the other day and didn't realise. That's what they're saying. It's moved up, so the amount of reels I've accidentally clicked repost and it's a one click
Starting point is 00:35:20 thing, then you have to quickly go and unpost because people don't understand the dodgy reels I'm sharing with my brother. Terrible feature. Where does it share to? Your stories? Yeah. Okay, that's okay. No, it's not. It's not when you've got a public profile. No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:35:36 You think of the last three that you sent us and then you think that you're publicly saying to everybody I think this is funny. Because there's no button in between that and sharing. There's no like, you're about to share this. I think it's a one click. It just does it.
Starting point is 00:35:50 It just reposts it in one click. Somebody's losing their job. I'm going to lose my job. I'm getting cancelled today. I'm going to lose my job. That was some real dark shit. That was just for Fletch. He thought it was funny. If I'm going was just for Fletch. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:06 He thought it was funny. If I'm going down, we're all going down too. I'm taking you two with me. Okay. Hey, we do agree, though, eh? If this ship goes down, we all go down together. Yeah, dude. It's going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:36:17 It's going to be fun. And it's going to be fun. And then we sell everything we've got. We pool our resources. Fletch is going to be doing a lot of heavy lifting there. That's all right. And then we all buy one house that we live in. In Brazil.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Love that idea. Do you know what I mean? I'm not mad. Or because we accidentally reposted a dodgy meme. I'm going to repost it now. That sounds great. We have a podcast called like Cancelled. And we're like, woo, what's up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cancelled, live from Brazil. So this Instagram feature is not the repost one touch button.
Starting point is 00:36:43 No, it's scheduling. So you can schedule your reels. Scheduling or schedule? Which one is it? We had this argument at the dinner table last night. Not an argument, a discussion. I say scheduling. Because I think Simon Dallow said scheduled on the news.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Oh, yeah. He would know. How posh. Shouldn't it be scheduled? Well, if Simon's saying scheduled. Scheduled. No, it's too much. It's doing too much with my mouth. And I've got a lazy mouth. Yeah. How to. No, it's scheduled. Well if Simon's saying scheduled. Scheduled. No it's too much, it's doing too much with my mouth
Starting point is 00:37:05 and I've got a lazy mouth. Planned. Yeah. How to, no it's scheduled. How to schedule an Instagram DM. So you can schedule your posts and your reels and whatnot to go like okay I want to do it later this day but I'm going to be busy. That's fine. So they're
Starting point is 00:37:21 saying this is huge for reply guys because you can basically, here's the three things that they say this is going for reply guys because you can, here's the three things that they say this is going to be good for, pardon me. Guys who want to be the first to say happy birthday. So they'll go, I'll remember it's your birthday. And so like a week out, you could be like, happy birthday, Hayley.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Send at 7am on your birthday. At 7am I'm going to wake up and be like, oh my God, he remembered. Oh my God, thanks, babe. He'll be like, thanks what? Yeah. You said happy birthday. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:37:50 You just missed it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Happy birthday. I'd go on uneven time like 7.03am. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it looks like you haven't scheduled. Yeah, yeah. Do you ever get an email and it's at a perfect time?
Starting point is 00:38:02 You're like, oh, you scheduled. Scheduled. You haven't actually had me in your heart and your thoughts. Okay, people who don't want to seem too eager but also don't want to forget to message a new friend. When you're like, okay, I really like him. I want to message him. But I don't want to be too much because I'm thinking of him now.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I'll give it the mandated three hours. But I don't want to leave it five hours and be like, oh my God, I didn't message him. So you can schedule that. Or dudes, it's just all guys who want to say good morning, beautiful, but also want to sleep in. Yeah. You're going to say good morning, beautiful, and then
Starting point is 00:38:31 sleep for another three hours and then not reply for three hours? Also, my thought was like, oh, so are you scheduling them for like when your partner's asleep? You know what I mean? Your partner's asleep and you're just like sending whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, all these DMs to beautiful people. So apparently it's now here. I mean, I can try it to schedule a DM. I just don't think I'll ever need to use this. It's going to go like this.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I'm on the FVH. Oh yeah, the last thing. We could not share that. Okay. Hey, my boys. You just watch your fingers around that button then. Hey, my boys. Maybe I haven't got it yet.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Invite group to blend, but that's there. Is blend there? Yeah. Start it. Start it. Start it. Kick off blend. Let's see how dark it can get in 12 hours.
Starting point is 00:39:12 That's a group chat just for your memes. Group chat for your reels. Yeah. It'll give you a feed of all the stuff you're into. We are joined again by the wonderful Bad News Brad, Principal Economist at... And CEO at Infometrics and CEO Officer. EO. Is it EO?
Starting point is 00:39:31 Chief Executive. He just doesn't say Officer. I'm not just a Chief Officer. Oh, okay. That's like a military rank, I reckon. There's so many OO options now. Yeah, Big Dog. Big Dog kind of covers all.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Big Dog Brad. Big Dog. Yeah. Today, Brady, we want to talk with you about budgeting tips. Because everybody, whether they're working with a bigger income or a small income, is trying to budget at the moment. Well, and hopefully should be. And if you're not, that's probably the first tip.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Start. Just start. Just get. Stop buying those forever jackets and just start. Well, I think the big thing here, like, let's be clear. stop buying those forever jackets and just start. Well, I think the big thing here, like, let's be clear, we're not trying to punish people for what they're currently doing because if you're starting to think about your money, you're starting to think about your finances and that,
Starting point is 00:40:14 like, that's a huge first leap that you're making. And I think, honestly, the first thing is just more of a catalog what you're currently doing before you even start to think about, geez, I want a budget and I only want to spend three cents a week on this thing just what are you spending on because I bet you they probably don't know yeah oh my god I did this I made a full budget and I put in what I kind of anticipated we were spending a month yeah and then the plan was at the end of the month to put in the actual spending those categories oh my Oh my God. Yeah. I couldn't believe it. A lot of bank apps or banking websites have the handy little breakdowns now, don't they?
Starting point is 00:40:49 So that can help you. Yeah, yeah, totally. But when you don't actually focus on that and break it down, it's very easy just to live in ignorant bliss, isn't it? Well, my thing was like the dairy, like the dairy's all adding up every time we're popping down to the dairy. You know, a little chocolate bar
Starting point is 00:41:04 and a sweet treat and a drink sort of thing, man, it adds up. And then a magazine while I you know a little chocolate bar and and a sweet treat and a drink sort of thing yeah it adds up and then a magazine while i'm there and then this and then that and then alone and that's why i look if you open up your bank app and you just have a quick scan through like most of them are probably going to look small so oh that lunch you know i mean that was justified oh yeah the coca-cola i got at the dairy oh that's that's justified as well but when you put it all together. But I think this is the, I mean, if you can use whatever is with your banking app or, you know, if there's another free one that you can have a play around with,
Starting point is 00:41:30 make a gorgeous spreadsheet. I love one of them. Yeah. Beautiful. So how do you start with your spreadsheet? Like, do you break it down into different categories or do you just put everything that you spend in a big row? I reckon your best bet is to start with sort of
Starting point is 00:41:44 the bigger categories. Food is the main one. Your rent, your fuel, what you might spend on clothes if you're doing that regularly. Gym membership, that's every month or whatever. I'd probably have a separate one for memberships and subscriptions because that's sort of a recurring thing. Like you don't know exactly how much you're going to pay for food every week. Every now and then you're going to have to buy some more toilet paper or whatever.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Olive oil. Or when you need to go and get toothpaste in the big shop. Some more washing powder. That stuff costs. Washing powder and olive oil in the sun. You're like, that's $5,000. You're like, excuse me? And that's why you get the slightly more expensive chocolate.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Because you need a little treat for all that hard work. Because it's stressful. But look, I mean, yeah, start there. The other one is, again, like, don't try and go too crazy. It's probably, I mean, not that I do this, but it's probably like when you try and do a diet or a new fad or go to the gym all the time. If you change
Starting point is 00:42:33 everything all at once, you're just not going to stick to it. It's not sustainable. Start small and go, okay, now I have an idea of how much I'm spending. Normally I spend X amount on food every week. Let's not try and, let's go 10% below that. Let's try and carve off 20 bucks from what it normally is and see if we can, oh is that achievable? Oh yep,
Starting point is 00:42:49 okay, that's not a bad spot. The next one is when you start to get in, you've got a bit more of an idea of what you're spending on, have a look at something like the sort of, we want to try and make this simple, 50-30-20 rule. 50% of what you're spending to go on your needs, the absolute essentials and all of that.
Starting point is 00:43:06 30% maybe on your wants, things that you don't need as much, but all are pretty nice. Jackets, chocolate. Jackets, jackets. Yeah, all of the above, studs and not. Yep. And then the 20% on savings,
Starting point is 00:43:19 you know, savings and or debt repayments and that. You want to sort of build something for the future as well. So this is your percent of your income? Yeah, of your spending sort of thing. So if you can split it up like that and have a bit of an idea around that, it starts to give you at least a more comfortable position of how you're starting on it. That's so nice and simple to think of it that way.
Starting point is 00:43:34 The other one, and this is where the 20% comes in important, is you want an emergency fund. Have you guys all got emergency funds? No. If something happened today, if the car broke down, if your kids needed to go to the doctor, have you got some emergency cash in a bank account that you can just use? A credit card's okay.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Is that what you mean? No. It's ringing up the bank and being like, I've got a little bit more, please. No, an overdraft is also not there. No, the answer's no. We're not talking huge amounts here. I'm not saying $50,000, but make it small and incremental.
Starting point is 00:44:04 But it just means that if you are in a bit of a tougher spot and something comes through, not all of your finances are just destroyed all at once. You can build it up. It's not going to be something you should touch often, but it is for, it's more than just a rainy day account. It's the, when things go bad,
Starting point is 00:44:20 it's a one-off and you're able to just do it and sort it. It makes your life a lot easier these people in my life and people I know's life Brad some people call them woman but I'm not going to put a label on it dangerous territory now
Starting point is 00:44:33 they tend to see money sitting in an account and think it must be spent I wish I could argue I wish I could be like Vaughn don't oh oh
Starting point is 00:44:40 oh no as you were my friend well funnily enough this is possibly one of my other tips. Have a think about splitting up your money into different bank accounts. Have multiple different accounts for different purposes. So that people can't see it.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Brady, Brady. No, no, not necessarily hidden. But, like, I know a lot of people who, you know, the money all comes into one big account, and it just sits there, and all the different parts come out. come out so like you're never quite sure what you're spending on anything because it's just so huge like i know some people and look sometimes it gets a bit extreme like i'm sure i've got one friend that's got like 20 different bank accounts and so their
Starting point is 00:45:16 money comes in from their pay and then it automatically gets split up ones like the food account ones like the rent account oh no that's too much but for some people will work because then they can compartmentalise how it all works out. So you don't see a wad of money sitting there and think, oh I could buy a jacket but actually that's got food money in it, petrol money in it, everything. It makes sense.
Starting point is 00:45:36 If you think of your insurance repayments, right? Your insurance payments, if you generally you'll get it cheaper if you pay it off on one big lump sum. Yeah, I do that. Now if you pay it off on one big lump sum. Yeah, I do that. Now, if you pay it off on one big lump sum, it means that for the next 364 days that you've got nothing. So you might have a whole bunch of money sitting there that you've in your mind gone, that's for insurance.
Starting point is 00:45:53 But then you spend and then when insurance time comes around, you're like, oh, I already spent that on insurance. Why did you hack my emails? How did you do that? Because I pay mine annually and it is good because for the rest of the year you just know it's not coming. But every year you're like, oh oh God, there's that bill. So if you put away whatever, you know, the $10, whatever you need,
Starting point is 00:46:11 a week or whatever into the separate account, then yes, it looks big but all of a sudden it's going to drain and then it's going to slowly rebuild for the next year. So sometimes doing that or an automatic payment or something can just be a little bit helpful for you to feel like you're in control because the biggest thing here is you want to feel in control you don't want to feel like money is doing all of these challenging things to you you're going no I've grasped the bull by the horns I know what I want this is how I want my money to work for me and so this is how I'm going
Starting point is 00:46:35 to set it out. Any other tips? Probably the last one is keep reviewing it like once you've got something that works don't assume it's always going to work forever you know if you start to suddenly think about saving up for a house or you get into a new relationship or you end a relationship or you start to think about children or you see a nice new jacket, review it and go, actually, look, I like the jacket. I'm going to put five bucks a week away into the jacket account because now I think I like jackets. I think the thing with the jacket is don't try it on.
Starting point is 00:47:02 I didn't go in to buy the jacket, Brad. I just said, oh, I'll try it on. I will go back in to buy the jacket, Brad. I just said, oh, I'll try it on. I will go back to one of the tips that I have provided on this show before, which is add it to your cart for a couple of days and then come back to it and go, do I actually really want it? There was only two more in the country, Brad. You know what I mean? And it's got studs on it. It's a jacket for a lifetime.
Starting point is 00:47:18 This is a marketing tip. I'm going to show you this jacket, Brad, and it'll blow your mind. This is a marketing tip, people, like you must buy now because otherwise it's all going to run away from you. Hayley, you've been sucking it in, my friend. Yeah, and I look cool doing it. False urgency. Where is it?
Starting point is 00:47:30 Where is it? I'm going to show you. It's got studs on it. Still too hot for any of your jackets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like all of the others. Do you know, I cancelled a subscription recently and when I was leaving, when I was cancelling it,
Starting point is 00:47:39 it said, is there a reason why? And I said, it costs too much money. And then I clicked out. Next day I got a thing saying, would you like to try this for 50% off for the next? And I was just like, huh. Now,
Starting point is 00:47:49 and the important thing there is then you've got a big decision. Is it actually that it's not worth it or was it too expensive? Yeah. Because sometimes you're like, actually look, even at 50%,
Starting point is 00:47:58 like I don't use this thing. I don't use it enough. Yeah, totally. That was the reason I cancelled it. I just don't use it enough at the moment. Whereas sometimes, that's the other thing, it's worthwhile every now and then going through your subscriptions
Starting point is 00:48:06 and being like, well, if I cancel and then I try and resubscribe, are they going to give me a better deal? So I'm supposed to, Brad, so you're telling me that I'm supposed to walk into a store and see this jacket and not buy it? Yes. That I was supposed to? Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:18 The picture's not showing you the studs. What are we talking here? How many? You don't want to know, Brad. You don't want to know. Three. You don't want to know. You've heard of Brad? Three figures? Oh, yes, of course, three figures.
Starting point is 00:48:28 She doesn't buy anything that's not three figures before the decimal point. Yes. Brad, thank you so much for the budgeting tips. Incredible. Yeah, you're amazing.
Starting point is 00:48:36 It's always very helpful and informative and we love how you make it nice and simple to understand. Great fun to be back in. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Fletchborn and Hayley, silly little pole, silly little pole. It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole. Silly little pole today isilly Little Pole, Silly Little Pole, Silly Little Pole. Silly Little Pole today is what's the best way to get your fish and chips fish? You know? What's the best way to get your fish and chips fish? Crumbed or battered?
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yes. Crumbed, man. It's crumbed, right? It's a yuck. I was walking past someone on the phone, obviously making a phone order for fish and chips recently, and they were like, what do you mean you don't do crumbed? Crumbed is classy. Crumbed is nicer because it guarantees crispness,
Starting point is 00:49:34 whereas battered, sometimes if it sits in with the chips and it gets hot again and moist from the chip steam, it cannot be crispy. Crumbed just makes me think of those frozen fish things that you get at the supermarket. No, you're going to a bad fish and chippery. No, it's battered every time. Battered's the way to go.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Battered's delicious. If someone got me a piece of battered fish, I'd be like, yum, yum, thank you very much. But if I'm ordering, crumbed all the time. Because crumbed lives in with the chips and the hot dogs and the squid rings and all that. What do you like? The crab sticks.
Starting point is 00:50:06 The crab sticks. I love the crab sticks. So much crab in them. Just nothing but crab. Hayley, we don't talk about the crab content. 100% crab. I was going to Google what's in a crab stick, but I won't. No, don't Google.
Starting point is 00:50:18 No, don't. We don't need to know. They're the sausage of the sea. Yeah. Aren't they, really? They are. They're the sausage of the sea. 100% delicious is what you'll find.
Starting point is 00:50:26 74% of people said battered. Wow. 26% of people said crumbs. This is not surprising. They're simple people. No, I'm sorry. Crumbed are simple people. Oh, classy people.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Briar coming out swinging. Crumbed is for small children that wear singlets because they're cold. No. Crumbed is for adults. They're not for cold small children, Briar. Soggy battered fish is for babies. Briar is not for small children that wear singlets because they're cold. No! Crumbed is for adults. Not for cold, small children, Briar. Soggy, battered fish is for babies. Briar, it's not for small children. Cold, cold, small children.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Holly said bear battered is king. Oh, yeah. Do you know bear battered wedges, which are a superior wedge because they also go crispier? Yeah. My kids eat them and they're just like, oh, I feel sick. Because they're pissed. Because they're pussies.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Oh, my God, they're on the turps. There's actually no beer though in them, right? Well, it's cooked out. Or it'd be cooked out, right? Yeah, the alcohol. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're not saying
Starting point is 00:51:12 because they just don't like the taste. I'm like, who doesn't like beer-battered? It rules. If anyone thinks he's beer-battered, I'm like, hot out. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, if everyone's reaching.
Starting point is 00:51:19 Beer-battered onion rings? Now we're talking. Beer-battered hot out. That was the most rangy-order thing you've ever said. Beer-battered hard-out. Onion rings are insane. Yum. It's just battered onion.
Starting point is 00:51:30 I know, it's yum. It's so yum. It's like a potato fritter. It's just a sliced piece of potato. It's a flat, and we bloody love them. Aaron gets chips and potato fritters. I'm like, they're just big chips. But often, you get something else, man. Something else. That's what they should call're just big chips. Chip discs. Get something else, man.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Something else. Chip discs. That's what they should call them. Chip discs. CDs. Chip discs. Battered, especially if it's bear battered, between two pieces of thick white bread heavily buttered with a kiss.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Oh. Or ta-ta sauce. I nearly swore. God, I was like, ha. Yeah, Liam. Maddie said, people who voted battered are dumb and have clearly never tried crumbed as it's the only logical answer. Finally, someone on team crumbed in the talent section.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Some class, some class on the show. Zoe said, I worked in a fish and chip shop and used to do the cooking. The crumb fish was put in the batter first, then covered in crumb. So technically, whether you're getting batter or not, you're still getting batter. It's just additional crumbs. Okay, apology. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Aw. I assumed something was holding those crumbs on there. Yeah. I didn't think they were just hoping every time that crumb was going to stick to straight fish. I just thought maybe they just wet the fish. They wet the fish. They wet the fish.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Eggie, yeah. What'd they wet it with? Because when I crumb fish, you go flour, egg dip. Crumbs. Crumbs. Yes. That's the correct way to crumb. But the fish and chip shop that's doing 40 of these things is not doing that, right?
Starting point is 00:52:46 No, they're not messing around like that. They're just wetting the fish. Wetting the fish and away they go. Dipping it in a cup of water. Crumbs for your beef and chicken schnitzel, not for fish, says Nathan. Yeah, I'd agree. I'm team Nathan on that one. Actually, I'm just really aghast at this.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Ali said, on the journey to health, so eating crumbed currently. Well, we've just learned, Ali. You're not on the journey to health because you're just getting more carbohydrates. You can't be on a journey to health so eating crumbed currently. Well, we've just learned how. You're not on the journey to health because you're just getting more carbohydrates. You can't be on a journey to health eating deep fried fish. No, it's still deep fried hon. You can have a seared fish.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Now we're on a journey to health. Oh. I know, that's the saddest. Pan-seared. Pan-seared market fish. Because you're going to have to go to a restaurant to get it. It's going to cost you $30.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Yeah. What's the fish of the day? It's a standard bog, standard snapper. How much is that? $85. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Oh, hold on. I've got one more. I've got one more. Nun. Says Daniel. Oh, Jesus. I'm glad I clicked.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Nun fish. I'm sure glad I clicked on that last tab. Nun batter or... No, I think she's saying nun fish. Oh, nun fish. Nun fish. Oh, okay. I'll grow up. Yeah. Now that's a child who wears a singlet because they're cold. You ain't fish. Yeah. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley.
Starting point is 00:53:49 The show thanks to Animates Advice and Products for every bougie. That's budget. If you don't speak posh. So unnecessary for every bougie. This was huge news last year. Dave Grohl caught... Foo Fighters. Foo Fighters. Foo Fighters from Nirvana was caught...
Starting point is 00:54:09 Well, not caught cheating. Admitted that he had cheated on his wife and that he had impregnated a woman. Yeah, kind of forced hand when you've got a new baby coming into the world. Oh, had she not been hapu, there would have been no reveal of this. But people were shocked when they saw him and his wife out and about on the street,
Starting point is 00:54:33 just living their life, big smiles, looking just completely normal, despite the fact that his secret love child will be imminent? Born any day or has been. Yeah, born, born, born. I was going to say. Born by now, surely. Born by now. And he had said, I will be a father to this kid.
Starting point is 00:54:56 You know, I'll step up as a dad. So they just looked absolutely fine. And also his kids are like adult now, eh? Yeah, and they kind of turned on him a little bit. Well, not turned on him, but said like, we're distancing ourselves from him. Immediately in the weeks after it came out in public, him and his wife were spotted without wedding rings.
Starting point is 00:55:12 So everyone was like, she's out. Wasn't she seeing the tennis, the lovely tennis coach? Yeah, that was rumoured. Yeah. But now apparently they're out and about and Los Angeles smiles on their faces as if nothing happened. Wedding rings? Wedding rings, hands holding, walking close, laughing, enjoying each other's company.
Starting point is 00:55:28 And do you know what? People do forgive the cheating. Look, I am... Could you? Yeah. I'm just researching neurosciencenews.com, male-female infidelity. Might I partake in a slight reading? Please do, sir.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Oh, okay. The summary of the study says that males and females view physical and emotional cheating differently. Women consider emotional affairs to be more serious and men believe physical infidelity to be more serious generally. Researchers report if one partner feels their relationship is threatened by cheating, it is harder to forgive them for infidelity regardless of gender.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that makes sense, right? The dude's like, oh, does he have a bigger, does he shag better than me? And women are like, do you love her? You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that makes sense, right? The dude's like, does he have a bigger, does he shag better than me? And women are like, do you love her? You know? Yeah, yeah. Totally.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Did you buy her flowers? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Is she funnier than me? Is she funnier than me? That would be mine. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:16 She's actually won a Billy T. What? And I've just been loosely nominated for a friend. And she's already hosted the gala like five times. Why do you guys hate me? Why do you hate me? You know? We're like your older brothers. We know exactly where to poke.
Starting point is 00:56:35 I'm not crying. So this is what we want to talk about this morning. By the way, you were an accident. 45, 43 and 34. You were an afterthought in this family i was 10 years late yeah you were way after i think mum and dad were just trying to rekindle something no they were trying to fill a void that you two hadn't filled right into your born in october right so it was just
Starting point is 00:56:57 summer holiday sort of thing younger brothers and sisters know when they're 10 or 15 years younger, they know they're in an accident. Oh, 100%. It's like if one sibling looks slightly different, you've got to tell them they're adopted constantly. Absolutely. Anyway, back to the cheating.
Starting point is 00:57:15 We want to know this morning, has your relationship survived a cheating scandal? Or maybe it didn't last forever, but did you get back with the person and give it another go? Maybe this was a while ago, you did forgive them and it lasted a while. Yeah, or it didn't. forever, but did you get back with the person and give it another go? Maybe this was a while ago. You did forgive them and it lasted a while. Yeah, or it didn't.
Starting point is 00:57:27 We just want to know. Because usually you would think that the knee jerk reaction would be there's been a cheat. And then the relationship's over. But you hear this. Some people survive it. Straight relationships? No, no. Welcome the gays.
Starting point is 00:57:43 This article was talking about heterosexual couples. Yeah. Infidelity is one of the most common reasons that heterosexual couples break up. Different setups. But the gays give each other a high five. They're like, go you, babe. The gays will just be like, let's just sort this out now.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Put some clear rules. Oh, no. And there's no issues. Wow. Life is for living, mate. Life is for living. Carpe diem, I say to the gays carpe diem
Starting point is 00:58:06 so 0800 Darls at M I just say don't carpe all the diems not all the diems to the gays I'd say leave some diems
Starting point is 00:58:13 for everybody else leave your main diems for your main partner but carpe the rest of them 0800 Darls at M call us now you can text through 9696
Starting point is 00:58:20 did you survive the cheating Dave Grohl and his wife have been sent out and about in Los Angeles holding hands or laughs, wedding rings back on. Yep. After the fact that last year it was announced that he had fathered a child
Starting point is 00:58:30 with someone he had cheated on his wife with. So, you know, not great optics. No. Not great optics. Not great optics. Okay, PR. Okay, PR representatives. Optics aren't great here, guys.
Starting point is 00:58:42 We need to go for some low-hanging fruit and some blue sky thing to get this BAT 360 on track. Just imagine you tell your partner Aaron you've cheated on him. You're like, okay, we don't have great optics here. Listen, I've slept for so long. I slipped.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I understand that the optics aren't great here. You know? Let's brainstorm. Let's brainstorm. What's next? It's not about what's happened. What's next? Look forward.
Starting point is 00:59:02 We want to know if you, did you survive the cheating? Get back with them. There are so many messages. Obviously not a lot of calls. It's something that people will get off their chest in text form and I want to talk about it if their voice is identifiable. And some quite lengthy sort of like messages as well.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Somebody said, when I was a teen, my mum found out my dad had been cheating On and off for 10 years They're still together Celebrating 38 years married This year And they're probably The happiest I've ever seen Asterix
Starting point is 00:59:30 No they never broke up though Asterix though I reckon you chuck An asterix in there 38 years Asterix And then down the bottom Of the footnote
Starting point is 00:59:38 The asterix is He was cheating You know in the newspaper Old couples like to be like We're breaking together 50 Like I put an asterisk. Asterisk. Because what was it?
Starting point is 00:59:47 On the 40th year, he did sleep with Marjorie. What movie or TV show was it where they were like, what's the secret to a long and happy marriage? And she says this thing and then the old guy learns it and he's like, cheating. Cheating. Cheating, cheating. Now, Anonymous has called up.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Anonymous, did you survive the cheating? We did initially. I chose to stay, but it didn't work out in the end. So him, her, she, they, them? Him. He cheated on you? How long had you been together when you found out that he cheated? Just over a year.
Starting point is 01:00:22 It's probably like a year and a half. Okay. And did you know about her? Was she hotter than you or better than you? No. I got a hey, girly message. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:35 So I didn't actually know the girl. Okay. But yeah, I chose to stay. I was quite young. Wait, what hey, girly did this come through as? Hey, girly, he's doing this to both of us. I've just found out about you. You've just found out about me what, hey, girly, did this come through as, hey, girly, he's doing this to both of us, I've just found out about you and you've just found out about me, or hey, girly, I'm riddled with guilt, I know about you,
Starting point is 01:00:50 and I've been doing this. So it was actually from a friend of, so it was his friend's girlfriend who was also cheating on her. Right. And she'd found out about her boyfriend and told me about mine. Oh, wow. And it turns out they'd been cheating together. Like, the two friends had just been going and doing their own thing.
Starting point is 01:01:10 Wow, okay. But, yeah, so I found out, decided to stay. We lasted another four years. Oh, wow. Four years? It was, yeah. Was that four years where you were completely monitoring all social media and movement? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I turned into, into like a psycho. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it would be hard to let that go. He'd be like, I'm just going to the supermarket to grab some things. Are you? Are you? Yeah. Is that what we're calling her now?
Starting point is 01:01:34 The supermarket? Yeah. To grab the things. No, I think I should have probably seen the red flag and ran. So at the end of your relationship, did you separate because of other things or did he cheat again? No, it was from other things but to be fair, he was like a serial liar
Starting point is 01:01:52 and gaslighter so I probably wouldn't be surprised if he did. Thank God he's gone. You're off now. Okay, well, thank you for sharing it on us. Listen to this great message. Me, I survived it with my current partner. So still together as we speak.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Five years into our relationship, we slept with a co-worker who had just come out of a divorce. He was going to leave me for her, but his family said they would disown him and our friends really frowned upon him and he's known to be a respectful guy and live with very high morals. He then discovered she was also shagging another work colleague.
Starting point is 01:02:23 So we went through therapy and three years later, still going strong. That's amazing. But again, there'd always been that little bit, eh? And the fact that he was going to go. Yeah. But I don't think that you can't hold on to that, right? Yes, you can.
Starting point is 01:02:39 That's a point. Are you giving points? Every argument going forward. You're giving points. I'm not giving points, but if you cheat on me, that's a point for me. You'd be like, I can't help but notice the dishwasher hasn't been unloaded. And you cheated on me that time. Just saying. It's like a life cheat code to win anything.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Hayley, did you spend $500 on a jacket? Yeah, but you cheated on me five years ago, so what are we going to do about it? Hayley, you've ticked up $25,000 worth of things for this cheating. What is the end? It's like an Uno Wildcard. You shouldn't have done that. Yeah, you've ticked up $25,000 worth of things for this cheating. What is the end? It's like an Uno wildcard. Boom! Wildcard. We don't encourage that. When I was a teenager, my mum found out that my dad had been
Starting point is 01:03:14 cheating on and off for 10 years. They're still together celebrating 38 years. Did I read that one out? And I said asterisks? I thought it was less. Or is this another one? Maybe another one. A similar situation. He one. Similar situation. He cheated on me 20 years ago. We broke up, but we've been back together for three years.
Starting point is 01:03:29 No, that's a different text. Yeah. No, no, that's a different one. That's a different one. Okay. I forgave cheating six months into our new relationship. He was, okay, she uses the word banging. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:40 He was banging his ex. Two years later, we're mostly good, but deep down, I do have major trust issues. That needs a little bit, if you want that to survive, I reckon it needs a little bit of therapy. How do you get out of that? I don't know. You've got to learn how to, right? You talk.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Not that same one. I was going to read it again. What is wrong with you? I was going to read the one that was one about being pregnant, and they cheated on them, and then mum, okay, so mum cheated on dad two years into their marriage and got pregnant, didn't carry out the pregnancy, but my parents are still together and have been married for 32 years.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Okay. That's got to be a big one though. Yeah. 32 years. We are also hearing a lot of messages about people being like, don't, like 100%, don't trust them again. Once a cheater, always a cheater. A lot of people coming in being like, I't like 100%, don't trust them again. Once a cheater, always a cheater. Yeah, once a cheater. A lot of people coming in being like, I forgave and it was
Starting point is 01:04:27 not worth it. I don't know if this is considered cheating, but it is to me. My now ex-boyfriend hid from me that he had an OnlyFans account for six months. And I only found out through snooping on his phone and he was being real sus with me near his phone and hated the fact I went
Starting point is 01:04:43 through his phone without him knowing. I clearly had a reason because he was, oh, he was paying $400 a month to see other women on OnlyFans. In my mind, he Oh, I thought he was content. I thought he was a content creator. And I was like, he could probably buy his way out of that problem. I would have just said to him, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hot.
Starting point is 01:05:00 I ended up staying with him for another six months but I couldn't get over it in the end so I left. $400 a month? A month. He's following a lot of people and getting a lot of private. Or he's getting top tier. Yeah, he's getting top tier and he's getting direct messages and all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:13 That's wild. Like it's free. It's free. Just the thought of $400 a month. It's free. You're bleeding me dry. And then you're like, oh no, but they message you directly. No, they're not.
Starting point is 01:05:24 No, they don't. Boyfriend cheated on me when I was pregnant. Tried to make it work pretty quickly. Got the act and cringed every time he touched me. Obviously didn't last long after that. Yeah. Gotta be tough. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Okay, I just want to finish off our topic about surviving the cheating with two texts. Okay. I think strong contenders for text of the week. Okay. Wow. And you guys pick which one. My husband cheated on me and my sister who is a doctor in psychology said the only way to get over it is for me to get under somebody else. So I did.
Starting point is 01:05:55 And we've been married for 15 years this year. Basically it comes, you've got to even the playing field. If they cheat on you, you've got to cheat on them. One for one. Is that throughout the relationship? One for one. I've done it. Off you go. No, I think one and then you call the game. Unless it just becomes a game. It's an open relationship you speak of.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Someone else said, I found out the week after my husband's funeral that he'd been having an affair. So I guess you could say we didn't survive it. Oh, that's Text of the Week. Love, love, love. Okay, Text of the Week, all thanks to Animates making happy Love, love, love. Okay, text of the week. All thanks to Animates,
Starting point is 01:06:26 making happy happen for pets. We've got a $50 Animates voucher. Feed the dog. The dogs don't cheat on you. But they do die on you. Yeah, they do die. I was going to say cats don't cheat on you, but they do.
Starting point is 01:06:38 That's why yours is locked in your house. You know for a fact you'd be out there doing it. Right now, though, time for Fact of the Day, Day, DAY, DAY, DAY. It's about smells. It's about scents. It's about aromas. It's about processing them at this week's Fact of the Day theme
Starting point is 01:07:06 Smells, and today one of the best smells You either love it or you hate it Nah, coffee Oh yeah Freshly brewed or roasted coffee Or like you go into a coffee place And they roast it there I was at a coffee roaster yesterday
Starting point is 01:07:22 Yum, yum Even before I My little light got into drinking coffee Roast it there? I was at a coffee roaster yesterday. Yum, yum. Even before I had my little light, got into drinking coffee in the last couple of years, I loved the smell of it, even though I never drank it. An international group of scientists report that inhaling the warm aroma of a hot cup of coffee alters activity in some of the genes in the brain, reducing the effects of sleep deprivation
Starting point is 01:07:43 without even having to drink it. Huffing it? It starts before. Oh. Just smelling it. Is it because you associate it? You associate it? It's like a Pavlov's dog thing.
Starting point is 01:07:54 The brain starts saliva-ing because it can smell it rather than, yeah, before tasting it. Love that. Coffee smells. In 2012, Dunkin' Donuts pumped coffee smell onto public transport when their jingle played over the speakers in Korea. What?
Starting point is 01:08:09 That feels like invasive advertising. Well it worked because coffee sales went up 29% for Dunkin Donuts. Because they were hearing the Dunkin Donuts Dunkin Donuts, Dunk, Dunk, Dunk, Dunk Donuts, Donuts, Donuts. I don't know if that's how it went.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Yeah, where do you dunk them? In your coffee. Where do you put them? In your mouth. Where do you put them? Dunkin' Donuts. Dunkin' Donuts. Yum, yum, yum.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Was the jingle. At the same time, release the smell of coffee. Coffee sales went up 29% and the patronage of Dunkin' Donuts near bus stops went up monstrously. Wow. Okay, tripled. Do you have anything around how coffee neutralises? Yes.
Starting point is 01:08:53 I did look into that. Because you know when you're at a perfume place? The great neutraliser. Yeah. I sponsor Chemist Warehouse, they have a little bowl of beans. A little bowl of beans. They put out a little bowl of beans. At bloody Duty Free, right?
Starting point is 01:09:04 Yeah. There was a little bowl of beans and in between sniffing them, because your nose gets all full of it, half a bit of coffee. Because you don't want to sniff J-Lo first. You can't go J-Lo glow first. It lingers too long on the palate. And then everything else smells like J-Lo glow. Yeah. Okay, I've just
Starting point is 01:09:19 asked ChatGPT for a succinct answer to that question while I tell you that coffee is also in the top three regularly of New Zealanders favourite smells. Yeah it is. Coffee three, flowers two, freshly baked bread one. Oh yeah. And that's where I can tell you that it is the Maillard reaction that is present
Starting point is 01:09:36 in a lot of foods that contributes mostly to the colouring like when you're cooking bread that when the bread goes brown or like you do you use sourdough where the top cracks open and it browns, that is the Malliard effect. It's a reaction between sugars and proteins. And a byproduct is that golden brown crust,
Starting point is 01:09:53 but also the smell of things like coffee being roasted, chocolate being, the beans of chocolate being roasted before it's made into chocolate. Steak, when you sear a steak and immediately you smell it when it hits that hot plate and you're like... Grilled cheese, the golden crust of grilled cheese. What about cooked onions? Yes, the caramelisation of onions, correct.
Starting point is 01:10:14 That is dead right. And sautéed garlic. It's the Maillard effect that adds the colour but also adds the smell and that's the smell most dominant in coffee. Okay, neutralising, adaption. When you're exposed to strong or prolonged scents, your olfactory receptors become desensitised. I would have told ChatGPT to make it more concise.
Starting point is 01:10:30 That's what I always say to ChatGPT. More concise. More concise. Coffee contains a mix of volatile organic compounds which engage different olfactory receptors, the many floral fruity senses disrupting the connections that you established on the previous smell. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 01:10:45 And thus cleansing the olfactory palate. Okay. The nasal palate. So it's just got... Would that work if you've got a farty partner? Like just have a bowl of coffee beans beside the bed. Oh my God, I could do this for Aaron. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:57 No, it would be the wrong thing to do because you become adapted to your, the smell. You've gassed yourself. Very quickly. It's like Rotorua. You arrive and you're just like, man, that smells. And then 10 minutes later you've forgotten about it. But if you're all the time, that smells coffee beans.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Oh, that still smells coffee beans. And I'm farting all night. You're receding the entire time. So it's best you let them acclimatise to the farts or Rotorua in this case rather than cleanse the palate every time. So today's fact of the day, there was lots of them. I bombarded you with. Coffee.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Facts about coffee and its aroma. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Play ZM's Flesh, Fawn and Hayley. I was doing some work in a cafe yesterday Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- in town. And so I had my laptop and I had my headphones in and I had my phone and stuff and I was doing some work and I was on one of those big long shared tables, you know, where there were like three, four other people
Starting point is 01:12:09 with a laptop. Yep. There. Also not buying anything from the cafe. No, I had a salmon omelette. A salmon omelette? I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:12:16 but salmon doesn't go in an omelette. You, every time I eat this omelette I think of you. I think, do you know who will love this omelette?
Starting point is 01:12:22 Me. Carl Peter Fletcher. Well, I'll give it a go. I like salmon. You go. I like salmon. You're saying I like salmon? Smoked South Island salmon and a soft French style omelette with a bit of kale and some oil.
Starting point is 01:12:33 He loves me on the kale. Nah, don't worry, you can pick it up. Anyway, eating my omelette, doing my thing. And side thing, when you're working in a cafe and you need to go to the toilet, which I did three times within the hour. Yeah. I just leave my stuff. I might go If you're walking out in a cafe and you need to go to the toilet, which I did three times within the hour. Yeah. Do you? You just leave.
Starting point is 01:12:46 I just leave my stuff. I might go. I'll do a soft shut. Like it leaves an inch. Oh, yeah. So I can breathe. So the keys can breathe. Or so you don't have to log in again when you open up.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Yeah. Yeah, I just have my phone, like phone, iPod case. Yeah, just soft shut. Yeah. That's why when you go overseas, you. Yeah, I just have my phone, like phone, iPod case. Yeah, just soft shut. Yeah. That's why when you go overseas you get mugged all the time. Since the guy who got mugged. Did you say iPod case?
Starting point is 01:13:16 Not iPod case. Earpods. Earpods. When you're like, I put down my iPod case. It's got 256. You can hear it whizzing. You've got to use the click wheel.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Click, click, click, click, click, click, click. But I always just trust people. Yeah. Anyway, what I didn't realise is I was scrolling through Instagram because I was there to work. Yeah. So I was obviously scrolling on Instagram. Just scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll.
Starting point is 01:13:36 And I put down my phone like that. And I think I still had Instagram open as I do now, right? Yeah. And then I was like doing my work like this. Coffee arrives. Thank you. Salmon omelette with kale arrives. You can pick out the kale.
Starting point is 01:13:46 That beautiful off to the toilet and all this stuff. I realised that my phone was open on a very zoomed in photo of Bad Bunny and his Calvin Clines. Which this was dropped yesterday, right? Yeah, it was. Yeah. Bad Bunny and the Calvin Clines. Here's the new Calvin Klein.
Starting point is 01:14:02 What do you call them? Ambassador models? Yeah. Who was before him? Justin Bieber's done it. David Beckham's done it. Who was before him? There was someone big, right?
Starting point is 01:14:13 Big enough. It was Bad Bunny's birthday bonanza last week. Was it Bad Bunny's birthday bonanza? Bad Bunny turned 31. What a bad bunny. I just wonder. Puerto Rican. Puerto Rico.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Rapper. Well, I feel like people might have seen it and if they didn't know, they would have thought that I was just straight up looking at pornography because he is a tasty little snacky-dacky in his under-dackies. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:14:39 With his snacky-wacky, snacky-dackies. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. But I think as people... Jeremy Allen. That's who did it last. Jeremy Allen. Remember?y's. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. But I think as people- Jeremy Allen. That's who did it last. Jeremy Allen. Remember?
Starting point is 01:14:46 Arms folded. Yes, chef. That was, yeah. Arms folded with his pants pulled down on the couch. It was like Mark Warburg, like the first big celebrity to ever do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, look, if anyone saw me and they thought that all I was doing was just scanning photos of naked men, I wasn't.
Starting point is 01:15:03 I just had looked, I had glanced upon it. Right. I've got this at the moment. I'm watching a TV show at the gym, 1923, the Yellowstone prequel. Oh, yeah. And they're not afraid of boobies. Oh, okay. They're not afraid to chuck a rogue set of boobies on the screen.
Starting point is 01:15:18 And so when I, like, pause it. Oh, yeah. Go fill up your water bottle. Yeah. When somebody's on the treadmill beside me we don't pause on the boobies no no no
Starting point is 01:15:28 that's what I'm saying I have to be very careful where I pause it it's like watching something on a plane if you bring your own device and it's not edited out it's so bad
Starting point is 01:15:36 I'll just be like plus 10 plus 10 I'll watch that bit later I'll watch that privately write it down write it down what was that episode 14 minutes, 22.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Go back to that when I'm at the hotel. Great. Got that one. For a private viewing. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. Why are you so tired today, Georgia? Oh, did I say I was tired? No, you just said you were yawning.
Starting point is 01:15:57 You look terrible. Maybe it was... Oh, my God, you look dreadful. Are you okay? Are you sick? No, she doesn't. Oh, my God. She's an angel.
Starting point is 01:16:04 She's an angel that walks among us. We're lucky to be in her presence. Good morning. Thank god you turned it around because I was about to be like, man, you guys were so boring in front of that song. Wow. No, we weren't. I literally came in screaming and everyone stood up in applause. Yeah, I know. My period. That was actually the best news.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Actually, we need to do it again. Here at ZM, menstruation is a celebration It's a menstruation celebration We used to have one of those blood donut Blood things that we'd give you The squeezy thing I'm happy, I'm relieved
Starting point is 01:16:34 You put it on your desk so everyone's like Tread lightly Is that the reason why? Offer only chocolate, not advice And take only nothing. Take nothing. Leave only footprints. And leave only footprints. Take a wide
Starting point is 01:16:51 And when I looked back, there was only one set of footprints. And I said to Jesus, how could you abandon me? And he said, abandon you, I was carrying you all along. Oh. I hated that. I really hated that. Oh, yeah. And then in my mind, because I'm too big for him to carry like a baby, I'm on Jesus'
Starting point is 01:17:08 back. Piggyback. And he keeps having to go, oh God! Shut up. Okay, listen. You're newly married. We're oldly coupled. You're single fletch. Dates. Why do you say it like that? Well, it's sad. Because it's pathetic at your age.
Starting point is 01:17:25 It's just pathetic, it's sad. Because it's pathetic at your age. It's just pathetic and it's sad. The tears are forming in the corner of his eyes. Because he hates being single. Look, I'm lonely in a dictionary and there's our flesh. I hate being able to do whatever I want.
Starting point is 01:17:39 He hates having discretionary income. He hates having his own space. This is to no one. He hates being atary income. He hates having his own space. This is to no one. He hates being at the behest of not a soul. Sounds awful.
Starting point is 01:17:51 Zip zapping around the world. Okay. Oh, I hate it so much. Dates though. Dates. You could go on a date with a new person, an old person
Starting point is 01:17:57 or a fresh husband. Cosmopolitan is a great list of 45 dates that don't involve dinner or drinks. Okay. We don't have time for 45. We've only got a couple of 45 dates that don't involve dinner or drinks. Okay. Now, we don't have time for 45.
Starting point is 01:18:07 We've only got a couple of minutes. So give me a number from one. Okay, number seven. You are going to take me horseback riding. Ooh. It's very dangerous. It's dangerous, but I like horseback riding. No.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Expensive. Or, okay, here's an alternative. The ones you put coins in. Oh, cute. Oh, we go round. Or round. There's one of those at the strawberry ice cream place out by me. Fantastic. And they just leave all the old
Starting point is 01:18:32 50 cent coins on there so it's free to ride and you get an ice cream. Okay, perfect. And they do an amazing focaccia next door. Oh, they do a lovely focaccia. Okay, another number between 1 and 45? 9. 9? We could have jumped over this. My favourite number is 3. 3 is a 9. That's my favourite number too. We'll? Nine. Nine. We could have jumped over this. I know. My favourite number is three.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Three threes are nine. That's my favourite number too. We'll do it. Take a pottery class. Have a little ghost moment. So much harder than it looks on the wheel. And then do that huggy thing where you just like come in and hug. Yeah, and you hug the pot.
Starting point is 01:18:59 And then that's your little hug pot. Nah, that feels expensive. I was like, just go to Kmart and get one of their, you know, a mug from there. You can get pottery kits from there, actually. Kmart. That's not lasting. That's not a family heirloom, though, is it? Do you know what I mean? You're not going to bake that and it's going to last forever.
Starting point is 01:19:12 What do you bake it in your oven? I guess so, yeah. I'm not done with myself. Crafty type ain't me. Okay, do a, Vaughan wanted 21, do a DIY food tour. Instead of committing to a full dinner hop from one food truck or restaurant to another and try small bites
Starting point is 01:19:26 along the way yeah just clear love that just clear up $120 per person and still be hungry at the end of it no but you could do it
Starting point is 01:19:33 on restaurant hub couldn't you what's restaurant hub you could get 50% off so you're just hopping along oh like that early what's first table yeah like first table
Starting point is 01:19:41 oh does restaurant hub have categories I'm very particular about my type categories. Oh, okay. Here's one for you, Courtney. He's making a sex joke.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Restaurant Hub, he is, yeah. When you walk into the restaurant, there's a go, da-dong. You know what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about. And you drop down the categories and you're like, ethnic food? I love it. Da-dong, da-dong. Okay, 33, because it's our favourite number twice.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Compete in a laser tag battle. Sweaty though, my foundation's coming off. No, I always piss myself. What? Always? Every time I play anything where I have to hide or whatever, I pee myself. Because you get scared?
Starting point is 01:20:20 I get so scared. Is that why Laser Zone had to shut down for three hours after we went for a social event? Because we were next in line. Yeah. And then they put out the yellow sign. Just stop. We're poor.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Well, some ideas for a first date there. Some ideas. Head to Cosmo. They always know best. Because they recommended I use teeth once. Oh, another podcast in the bag. The plastic bag. Are they back?
Starting point is 01:20:44 No, no, still banned. Okay. They never left. No, sorry. That's where you come in with the line, boy. Boy, man, if you enjoyed that. Okay. Oh, and if you enjoyed it, give us a rating and a review
Starting point is 01:20:55 and be sure to tell all of your friends. God, I need some sleep. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.

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