ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 19th March, 2025
Episode Date: March 18, 2025White Lotus make up artist reveals glitter secret Shannon's F'd up nachos Top 6 Things I'd do when I first get back to earth How Gen Z really feel about feminism Hayley learnt a new song What do you f...eel too old for? Scheduling Instagram DM's BNB Budgeting 101 SLP - Crumbed or battered fish Did you survive the cheating? Fact of the Day Hayley working in public dramas Cosmo's first date ideas?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Two minutes past six.
Good morning.
Welcome to the show.
Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.
Happy Wednesday.
Happy Wednesday.
Hump day.
We don't say hump day.
Do we not?
Kids in the car.
How am I supposed to explain humping?
It's not about humping.
Oh.
It's about this is we're over the hump.
I personally hate it so much every time anybody says it.
I know, Vaud hates it.
That's why we don't say it.
Vaud hates it.
I've been vigilant with my humping every Wednesday.
I thought that's what it meant.
No, it's like the hump in the midweek.
Midweek hump.
The top six is coming up.
The astronauts, are they on their way back right now?
Have they touched down?
Have they splashed down?
What's the latest?
Last night when I was looking and when I got the idea for the top six,
they had departed the International Space Station,
but I don't know how long it takes to fall that far.
They're heading back now, I believe.
Imagine that shower.
That first shower back home.
Maybe shut up.
What?
Because it's the top six first things'd do when I get home from space.
Sorry.
Forget I didn't say it.
Forget I said it.
Back to the drawing board.
No, I got the top six things I'd do if I was an astronaut
who was just getting back to Earth after like nine months.
I can't wait to see all the research about it.
Like how they're internally affected.
Did you hear about the South African Antarctic Research Station?
No.
No.
Did everyone disappear?
Someone lost their mind.
Like they were getting shut in for like the next six months or whatever.
Oh, yeah.
They were about to start that thing where the weather gets so like insane.
And somebody was like swinging an axe.
Whoa.
South Africans, eh?
I don't think it's the fact they were South African.
It's the second time it's happened.
It's the second time it's happened at this research station.
Last time, a guy proposed to a woman.
She said no.
He put an axe through her laptop.
Okay.
So I think now we can say South Africans, eh?
Wow.
You should read it.
It was on the news.
And I was just like, this feels like just such.
There's more to this. I feel like they need to
look at their screening.
They do.
They do the tests.
They do the tests of like,
what's isolation going to do
to this person?
Da da da da da da.
I suppose you can't really anticipate
that kind of isolation.
Until it's,
and it only just started.
Well, no axes in space.
Maybe that's why
it hasn't happened in space.
And if you swung in space
with all the lag of like,
lack of gravity, you'd be like, you just swung in space All the lag of like Lack of gravity
You'd be like
You'd just
That'd pretty swing you right?
Yeah
And then you'd just look really overdramatic
And everyone would be like
Calm down
Calm down
How do they start
How do they cut their firewood in space though?
No axe
I don't know
I think that they take it pre-cut
Pre-cut
That must be expensive
For the fire
They get the kindling from the service station on the way?
Yeah, pre-cut.
We'll delve into the top six
soon on the show,
but next.
The White Lotus
head of makeup
is not gatekeeping
and the girlies
are very happy.
Play ZM's
Flashborn and Hayley.
We...
Now, I'm behind
on White Lotus
because I just
don't have time
for TV at the moment.
I'm a busy gal.
Okay?
I told you.
So don't say anything.
I've got a few week-to-weeks on the go
and I can't do too many week-to-weeks.
I have to wait till the whole series is out
and so I can just watch it all.
And White Lotus is one of those ones.
But you showed me the scene with Sam Rockwell yesterday.
12.5 Vaughan Smith.
Absolute favourite.
Does no wrong.
You love him.
I'm worried it's going to be too much to watch all at once.
Oh yeah, maybe. If it's that sort of level of intensity.
It is very intense.
Yeah. I mean, that's White Lotus.
Yeah. Well, you know,
the storyline's great, the
acting's phenomenal, the suspense, the drama
of the show, we love it, but
the girlies are noticing the make-up this season
because we're in Thailand
and it's always the late night parties,
the full moon parties.
Yeah, so that was the latest episode
is a bunch of them went to the full moon party.
Correctamundo.
Oh, really?
In that.
Which looked a lot more classier
than the full moon parties I'd been to back in the day.
Yeah, I've only ever been to one
and not a lot of class was had.
Do you know what I mean?
Or on display.
A lot of fluoros though.
You've got to wear your fluoros.
You've got to wear your fluoros. You've got to wear your fluoros.
But everyone,
all the girlies were like,
this makeup look,
particularly on Amy Lou Wood,
who plays Chelsea.
She's got the gap in her teeth.
Yeah.
She was the one in Sex Ed, right?
Sex Education.
Yeah.
She is so good in this.
But everyone was like,
the makeup,
the makeup,
the makeup,
the makeup.
Because she's got this like,
party vibe, glittery eye colour. The makeup artist was like, the makeup, the makeup, the makeup, the makeup, because she's got this like party vibe, glittery eye colour. The makeup artist was like, I'll tell you exactly what I used.
And it is the Space Paste, that's the brand. Glitter Concentrate by Lemonhead in Los Angeles.
Now, girlies, when I talked about this to you, you knew what this was immediately.
Yeah, Lemonhead is a huge brand.
Like, the prettiest glitters in the world.
They come in, like, little palettes.
Or you can get them in little one-offs.
This sounds like it's getting all over everything in the house.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Probably.
You would be so blessed.
But, like, look, look, look, look, look.
Look at the glitter on that.
Like, I'm going to need to purchase.
It would look beautiful on your flesh.
No, because you looked at the price
because it's not available in New Zealand, eh?
Well, this is for one
small pothole
80 New Zealand dollars.
Yeah, and like I think to get
your money's worth, you want to get the palettes
that have like each different colour, different types
of glitters. Yeah, and what was that?
About $4.50, yeah. American?
Yeah.
We're heading towards.50, yeah. American? Yeah. But if you sign up...
We're heading towards $1,000.
Yeah, but if you sign up with an email,
you get 15% off.
Oh my God, a Shannon 15.
I just thought.
We've got a Shannon 15.
We've got a Shannon 15, do we?
Well, I did just see,
so because very soon,
I'm going to be going to Australia,
and you can get it in Australia,
and you're going to be going to Los Angeles.
Would you perhaps
pop into Lemonhead Fletch and bring home a bunch
of glitter for your girlfriend?
Absolutely.
He's going to Lemonhead anyway.
Do you want to get a Glit Glit?
He goes to a lot of glitter parties.
And could we split it five ways
cost-wise and then we can eat, share the palette.
We'll have a studio palette.
I just thought that Daddy Fletch was going to use
his big EF postcard. to use his big F postcard.
Oh, no.
His big steel F postcard.
It is the worst when you go somewhere and someone's like,
can you just go and buy me something and I'll pay you back?
Oh, yeah.
It's just admin.
I don't mind a duty free, but if it's a location shop.
Yeah, like going somewhere on your holiday.
Yeah, if you're like going to the Grove.
But I'm just saying.
There's one there.
I'll have a look.
Find a store.
So where are you going? Do you know what I mean? No, I'm just like going to the Grove. But I'm just saying. And there's one there, I'll have a look. Find a store. So where are you going?
Do you know what I mean?
No, I'm just going to be really busy.
How much glitter costs?
No, so there's like, there's so many dupes.
Like Emco Beauty do a glitter dupe,
which is at Chemist Warehouse.
Yeah, show sponsor.
Yeah, there's all, I've got like heaps of glitter ones,
but it's just not quite the same. But people want the white lotus one, don't they? People want the white lotus one because it's amazing. Well, there's all, I've got like heaps of glitter ones, but it's just not quite the same.
But people want the white lotus one,
People want the white lotus one
because it's amazing.
Well, it's called Lemonhead.
Lemonhead's the brand.
Are you going to get some glitz?
No, no, I was just about to say,
I bet it's exactly the same stuff
you've just fallen for like marketing and branding.
Shut up.
Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughn and Hayley.
Shannon, she's our producer
if you've just woken up from a coma. Oh, you, hello. Thank God you's our producer if you've just woken up from a coma.
Hello.
Thank God you're alive.
If you've just woken up from a coma, this is Hayley.
We've got a producer called Shannon and we've got to kind of look after her
because she's an adult and all, actually not all sense, one sense,
the numbers.
The number.
Have you ever seen a giraffe fall out of a mother
and then learn how to walk quite quickly?
Yeah.
That's our baby Shannon.
Stumbling around.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Figuring it all out.
Two metres tall.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Our group chat is called Shannon's Guardians.
Yeah.
Because quite often we are her guardians.
Yeah, her household living, her choices, her hacks.
We look out for her.
So what did you make for dinner last night, Shannon?
I tried to make nachos.
Nachos we talk about as a regular on the cycle, all of us.
Love nachos.
It's so easy.
They're the best.
It's that easy as dinner.
Spicy mints and chips.
Aside from a stir fry, it's the easiest thing to make.
It's even easier.
Stir fry is easy to eat.
Yeah, I think it's easier than stir fry.
Yeah, yeah.
Because sometimes stir fry goes a little soupish. Yeah, it does. And you I think it's easier than stir fry. Yeah, yeah. Because sometimes stir fry
goes a little soupish.
Yeah, it does.
And you're like,
why aren't you frying?
Yeah, come on goop.
Come on goop packet.
Yeah, come on goop.
Why have you gone
so watery?
Goop?
Yeah, come on goop.
I bought you
so you were goopy.
Yeah.
Everything else is dry.
Where else is all this
water coming from?
And it's not burning off.
Anyway.
It's damn courgettes.
So nachos last night.
What meat did you use?
Mints, obviously.
I will say, I've done a beef mince before and I did good.
Like, I know how to do it.
This tells me that last night wasn't beef mince, was it?
No, so the dairy ran out of mince.
Why are you going to a dairy?
I'm sorry, you don't buy dairy.
These are the things you don't buy from a dairy.
Mints.
Meat and produce.
Yeah, absolutely.
An old brown banana if the supermarket's closed.
If the banana's got dust on it and it's brown,
it's been there for a while.
Well, as you know, I don't have a freezer
and I don't really have a full fridge,
so I live day to day.
But you also live so close to a supermarket.
There's supermarkets everywhere.
Yeah, but it's heavy carrying stuff.
Mints?
How much mints is she buying?
So I went to the dairy.
No mints.
Panicked.
But I'd bought the corn chips already and the seasoning.
So she's committed to nachos.
I'm committed.
But no mints.
Oh, God.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Cereal, dairy cereal nachos. Yeah, yeah, with spice. Well, I knew I knew how. But no mints. Oh, God. Here we go. Here we go. Cereal, dairy cereal nachos.
Yeah, yeah, with spice.
Well, I knew I knew how to cook a chicken breast,
so I bought chicken breast.
And I just chopped it up.
Again, a dairy selling chicken breast?
Yeah.
Do they have stickers on them that say, like,
use, buy, and sell?
Yeah.
I suppose it's Central.
No.
It's a dairy.
It's a dairy.
It's on the back of City Mission.
So I think it's for. It's ensured. Yeah, right. People doing it tough. It's a dairy. It's on the back of City Mission, so I think it's for...
People doing it tough.
Like Shannon.
For different reasons.
The entire tough spectrum.
So I bought a chicken breast, I cut it up real small
and then I put seasoning on it.
Okay, this is fine. We can work with this.
You cut it up real small like you were trying to make
mints?
Sounds diced to me.
Feels diced.
Small dice, yeah.
Okay.
Feels like you should have put it in your Nutribullet, I'll be honest, to really mince it.
Oh, I don't have appliances.
Okay, that's right.
So I chopped it up real small, put the seasoning powder on it, and it was dry.
So I thought how to make it wet.
Shocking, eh?
That powder and chicken breast would be dry.
Yeah.
That's shocking.
So I thought the best way to make something not dry
is add water.
Tomato.
Okay.
So I went to the sink and poured some water.
So she's got a sink for anyone who can count.
Yeah.
That's good.
No appliance to be seen, but a sink.
Fuel.
She's in prison, by the way.
That puts her somewhat at rest.
So I pour some water into the pan
and then suddenly it made soup Real quick
And I panicked because I was like I want a nachos
Not chicken soup
You've put in too much water
Spicy Mexican chicken soup
Yeah so I just let it cook for ages
And hoping it would cook off the water
That chicken's dust now
I mean it's dairy chicken
It was dry before you cooked it
No but the worst part is what happened was
It took all the seasoning off the chicken.
Yeah, that's what water will do.
Water not only makes things wet, it also washes them.
Yeah, it washed the chicken.
So I had poached chicken in a bunch of watery seasoning.
So then I was like, I'll add tomatoes.
You should have done the tomatoes first.
High insight.
Wait, what did you just say?
High insight.
Say it again.
High insight.
No, say it again.
What's a good thing?
High insight.
High insight.
Oh, Han, it's hindsight.
In hindsight.
What's the hind?
Hind, like behind.
Behind you.
You're looking back on an experience and you see it differently
because you've already lived through it.
I thought it was high insight when you can look down and reflect.
Well, Carl was so embarrassed he's not even looking at you.
So you're looking at bird's eye view.
I'm looking over it and I can see I should have done tomatoes first.
It's in high insight.
High insight.
A bird's eye view.
A bird's eye view of the entire situation. That's the new show. We don't say it. We don't say hindsight anymore on the show. We say in high insight. A bird's eye view. A bird's eye view of the entire situation.
That's the new show.
We don't say it.
We don't say hindsight.
We say in high sight.
We say in high insight.
I kind of, I, you know, the logic behind it is not forward.
I was looking down and reflecting.
The tomatoes kind of just.
Like an angel.
Like an out-of-body experience.
Jesus.
Okay, so now we've got soup and we've added tomatoes to the soup.
And now we're high ceiling low down on the sound.
And it kind of just was really watery
and at that point
I just was like,
I'll eat it.
Because I knew
the chicken was cooked.
Yeah.
Well, I just had them
on a plate.
At this point,
I was like-
Wait, you didn't pour
the soup over the chips?
No, no.
I kind of scooped them.
Okay.
So then I was like,
I messaged Carl
when saying,
only divas mess up nachos.
So easy.
Oh, yeah.
I love how this generation
can just write anything off like, I've really messed this up. It is soos. So easy. Oh, yeah. I love how this generation can just write anything off
like I've really messed this up.
It is so me.
I'm such a boss babe.
Yeah, yeah.
Boss babes don't do that.
Miss Boss Babe made super mistake.
She kind of replied as you guys did saying how.
And I sent a video which I like,
as I was sending it,
I was like, why am I sending you this?
This is horrific.
It was like, I need to see the video. No, I can't because I was sending it, I was like, why am I sending you this? This is horrific. It was like.
I need to see the video.
No, I can't because I also made guac and it was like brown.
Oh, no.
Where'd you get your avocados from?
The dairy?
The dairy.
Hey, look, in high insight.
High insight.
High insight.
We don't buy anything.
It was yum, though.
And I will say I ate it all and my partner loved it, too.
But he doesn't really cook.
So I think it was just
kind of like crap off the floor
because you made it. I've got mates that don't
cook and when they don't like something they weigh up
do I want to do this or do I just want to
eat? Listen I had
all the components there. The water was
a mistake but besides that I made nachos.
Well now we know. High in sight. We don't add
water.
High in sight. We don't add water. High in sight. No water. Play.
ZM.
Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
From the Notes app on Vaughn's phone, this is the Top 6.
Hello there, astronauts.
Astronauts, astronauts.
Boy, we're about to have some more come home.
Including the two that were stranded aboard the International Space Station for nine months.
Because remember, it was a Boeing capsule and then they couldn't get back on it
because it leaked or something.
Not a great...
Boeing's not having a great time, are they?
Not a great period for Boeing.
Really not.
Not a great period for Boeing.
Anyway, they are going to be touching back down
Suni Williams and Butch Wilmore.
Yeah, I think they've got about 15 hours left.
Yeah.
Long flight.
Hope you downloaded a show, you know.
Yeah, got to watch something.
Well, I've got the top six things I would do
upon getting back to Earth.
Because it's a great...
I can't think of a better planet to live on.
What would you have first?
Do you have a meal in this top six?
Yes, I certainly do.
Top six things I'd do when I go back to
earth.
Number six on the
list, smash a big
fat greasy burger.
I was just going to
say, mine would be
a big cordy pea.
I need something
like pub grub
specialty, big ass.
If I landed back
and Wellington was
having that burger
thing, it does.
Burger on a plate.
Wellington on a
plate.
The burger competition
where there's just,
I just be like,
and I want the grease
like dripping down my hands
so much.
Like White Lady?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But do you reckon
your body would be used
to all this weird,
dehydrated,
hasty food?
You'd cramp immediately
and then probably
shit your pants.
Yeah.
But it'd be so worth it.
It'd be worth it.
Yeah.
Number five on the list
of the top six things I'd do
when I got back to Earth
after a nine month hiatus. Probably. Number five on the list of the top six things I'd do when I got back to Earth after a nine-month hiatus.
Probably have a little squizz of adult content, if I'm being completely honest.
Do you think there's not the hub up in space?
I don't think there's not the hub.
There's no privacy, Hayley.
You're just going to use your mind.
Yeah.
What am I, a teenager?
Yeah.
What is this, the 60s?
Yeah.
Number four on the list of the top six things I do
first got back to Earth,
I'm scheduling a blowout.
Oh, yeah.
Getting the blowout of some power.
Are we scheduling a blowout for Friday?
And we live on Earth.
This Friday.
Yeah.
I'm not doing a Friday blowout.
Because I'm going to a party
with not many clothes on.
So I think I need to have a couple of drinks.
I can't say anything about it.
I'll loosen up.
Okay.
Schedule a blowout.
Number three on the list of the top
six things I'd do if I got back to Earth after being
gone for nine months, but I only plan to be gone for
a few days. Just find
a really big canyon, I'm thinking
the Grand Canyon, and just scream into the abyss.
I just think it'd feel really
good to scream into the abyss.
Because if you screamed on the space station
it's like... It would ding, ding, ding
off all the hard surfaces and people would be like,
hey, outside! And then you
go into a spacewalk and you scream and no
one can hear you because of the vacuum of space.
But it's blasting back in your own face.
I think it would feel good just to...
You were literally
in a tin can in the infinite
size of
space.
Yet, you'd feel so confined.
It'd be nice to go somewhere nature-y.
Nature-y, huge, open, and just scream into nothing.
A beautiful native bush in New Zealand, eh? With all the sounds and the moisture.
Moisture.
Number two on the list of the top six things I'd do
if I go back to Earth after nine months.
Go for a swim.
Or just submerge myself in water.
But I haven't been submerged in water. A bath.
A really long hot shower.
A spa pool. I love swims.
I love swims when I'm hungover.
So nice. Ocean.
What season is it where they're landing?
Heading towards spring.
I'd be here. Chuck yourself in the ocean
and then a spa.
Even a cold ocean
yeah frosty
frosty ocean
you just feel again
and number one on the list
of the top six things I'd do
if I first got back to earth
from a nine month hiatus in space
probably miss space
for some weird psychological reason
and immediately sign back up
to go back into space
yeah
you know like prisoners get out of prison
and they're like
what do I do out of prison
they sleep on the floor
yeah
these guys aren't going back to space, eh?
They need to go back to prison.
They're not going back up.
I could have had enough.
On the older end of the scale for what?
She's done a lot of space.
She's already done a lot of space.
Yeah.
But that'd be me.
I'd retire.
I'm done.
Space addicts.
I'd go do some talks somewhere.
Do they?
Bag talks, yeah.
Would they be getting some kind of compensation for the fact that it all went wrong,
and they've been up there so long?
I don't know.
Nah, I don't think so.
But you know, like, part of the job.
They would forever be able to do talks on resilience.
Yeah, yeah.
People all planning on it.
Today's speaker is someone that got stuck in space for nine months
here at our real estate concert,
Conference to Teach You Resilience.
Ray White, please welcome Suni Williams.
Hello, hello.
Resilience is the word
of the hour.
When I was up in space
looking down on Earth,
I was always thinking,
boy, you could squeeze
some more houses in there
and then sell them.
Thanks for having me.
That is today's Top 6.
I found this article on feminism shocking, to say the least.
And they called it, they said,
we are living in, quote,
a fresh hell of an anti-feminist cultural backlash.
Anti-feminist.
Fresh hell of an anti-feminist cultural backlash.
Big words.
Yeah.
So basically, this was some research done out of the States
looking at how we're viewing feminism and, you know,
a number of years ago with Me Too and body positivity
and people coming in, like women's equality and all this,
you know, we were very vocal about it.
And I think as a world we agreed.
And people say, well, I'm a feminist.
I'm definitely a feminist.
And now it's shifting.
We're going back a little bit.
They're saying it's a very clear shift.
There's a lot of stuff happening online with the trad wife stuff that young people like Gen Zers are getting into,
sort of becoming more of a serving role in a relationship, a traditional relationship.
Which is why, Shannon, you've gone down the trad wife route with your soupy nachos.
Yeah, cooking for your man.
Cooking for your man.
I decide that will make him love me more, is curried nachos.
Curried nachos.
Yeah.
Soggy nacho chips.
If I could stay at home all day and be the homemaker, I think I would, but I don't think I'd be good enough for it.
I think he'd ask for a refund.
You could get better.
You could practice.
I didn't think I was that bad until I started telling people.
And then I'm like, actually, I'm not great at cooking.
I don't want you to cook for me.
I'll say it.
I could do lolly cake.
Lolly cake.
Now she makes a good lolly cake.
I'll be a trad wife for lolly cake and lolly cake.
She's a feeder.
So this study that they did wasn't
just America that they questioned.
It was a global study looking at
feminism and gender equality
and 39%
of Gen Z
women thought
that feminism has gone too
far and is now
just discriminating against men.
But it's the case with anything, right?
Like it gets, in the early days,
people start getting on board
and there's a little bit of a groundswell
and then it gets popular
and then it gets too popular
and when something gets too popular,
it's human nature to pull against it.
Totally.
And then the same force that started pushing it
starts pulling it back.
It's kind of this pendulum effect. It's why here
at the show, we've never aimed to succeed.
That's right. We're happy
to sit. Diddle in the middle.
Mundane. Yep.
Right down the middle. Average. Consistent.
Get too popular, people will cut you down.
There's a woman here, but it's not too many.
Exactly. We're just
average, Jo. Listen to this too many. We're exactly, we're just average, Joe.
Listen to this, though.
In the US, young female voters were 7% more likely to vote for Trump this election than they were four years ago.
Which is wild, eh?
Young women.
And you're like, but all the stuff that he was talking about was like women's body rights and everything.
And you're like, how?
So the bloody Gen Zers, they're turning against their own fight,
basically, and saying, oh, no, feminism's gone too far.
We can calm down a bit.
No, you know me.
I love men.
Because it went like millennials started shifting away
from homophobic slurs and stuff.
Gen Xers, they loved them.
They loved a casual racist and a homophobic slur.
Oh, my God.
Huge fans. Yeah. Huge fans. So then millennials
that are working kind of against it and then Gen Z's like, we don't say that.
And then I hear some of the language coming out of like kids
that my kids go to school with. And I'm like,
sir. Oh, I know. Sir, we do not say the R word. We don't say
the F word. We don't say the F word. Oh, I know.
We don't say those anymore.
We haven't for years.
Also just calling things gays back.
Yeah.
I've seen it online.
I've seen kids being like, ooh, that's so gay.
I was like, wait, what?
No, that was done in the 90s.
We're done with that.
Yeah.
Anyway, look, here at the show, we are just neutral feminists.
Neutral feminists.
We're neutral feminists. We're just.. Aren't we? We're neutral feminists.
Feminist light.
We're diet feminists.
We're beta.
We're beta.
Diet feminists.
Feminist zero.
Feminist zero.
Feminist zero.
Feminist no sugar.
Done.
Easy.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.
Well, look, listen, I am making a brand new show.
It's called The Baroness.
You can find tickets at hayleysbrow.com for Wellington and Auckland.
Yeah, part of the comedy feast.
Wild that you'd be bold enough to sell tickets to a show that you've not even completed.
I know.
No guarantee it's going to be any good.
No.
And yet, I'm trying to make it as good as possible.
But I've had almost too much time.
Do you know what I mean?
And I need the pressure of time. And that's come. Like, this is what that time is. Yeah. I've got to too much time. Do you know what I mean? And I need the pressure of time.
And that's come.
Like this is what that time is.
I've got to get it made.
So yesterday I was like,
I really need to be focusing on music
because I play piano and sing songs in my shows.
The show you can come and see,
hayleysprout.com for tickets.
And yesterday I was like,
I've got to work on this particular song.
Okay.
And sat at the piano, everything's right.
Like, headphones plugged in, this is here, da-da-da,
laptop's there.
And instead of writing the song, I hit a chord
and it was C minor.
And I was like, C minor?
Why does that feel familiar?
And then I kept torturing around and eventually,
we'll play it.
This is what I figured out.
Now, that's not my original song, is it?
There's a severance intro.
Yeah, good though, isn't it?
Isn't it?
It's quite good, isn't it?
Isn't it weird how something so simple.
Like that's just ding, ding.
And because it's attached to such a full noise TV show,
it's so simple, but it's so powerful.
It's so powerful.
Do you know how long that took me?
How long?
Hour and a half.
To work that out?
Yeah.
Hayley, you better be working on your show.
Because I wanted to do it by ear.
You could have looked it up and had it done in five minutes,
took that off and got back on the show.
But it was so, I knew that I could look it up, just scratch looked it up and had it done in five minutes, took that off and got back on the show. But it was so,
I knew that I could look it up,
just scratch the itch
and then move on.
But I was like,
I really need to work this out.
It was like key procrastination.
I'm terrible,
I've always been like this.
Awesome.
I was always like that
with school homework.
But it's the pressure
that makes it good.
It was when you were like,
okay, I've only got four hours left.
That's it.
Just get it done.
I better get a cookie
and a drink.
No, I don't want people
to think who are going
to come and see my show
and then bought their tickets
on HayleySpro.com.
What you've told me so far
sounds shit.
No, no, no, no.
It sounds like you're
going to get halfway
through the show
and you're just going
to play the Severance
stuff.
Yeah, worse comes to worse
it'll be great.
I'll just play Severance.
Why not?
Play ZM's Fletchbourne
and Hayley.
Play ZM's Fletchbourne
and Hayley.
Great thread on the Reddit that is things I'm saying,
oh, I'm too old for this.
I'm just getting too old for that.
Great list, like clothes that are uncomfortable.
Not doing it.
Shannon, what was yours that you just mentioned
that you already feel too old for?
Low-waisted jeans or low-waisted anything.
I need it up to my bra line and it needs to be
twit. Twit.
Because these young people, they don't have a puku.
I'm not going to puku. Yeah.
Where does the puku go if it's not tucked into the high-waist
pant?
Passive-aggressive
people, mean people, no time for that
nonsense. Crowds.
Vaughan, this is on the list. Don't like it.
Don't like them. Just too old for that. Don't like
them. You've got, you must have a million things
on your list. Oh, everything. Because you don't like going
out. Staying up past 10pm,
that's on you. Ridiculous. Oh, see, that's
yeah, I'll agree with that. I'll stay up past 10pm at home,
but if I'm not at home by 10pm,
I'm like, I should be home by then. Staying
longer than I want, like feeling obliged
to stay at an event. Yeah, or even going. No,
I'll just leave. Even going to the event.
Nightclubs, obviously, on here.
Oh, no.
You know, me and the club.
I love the club.
Yeah.
Nothing makes me happier than paying way too much for a drink,
but I'm probably going to get nudged out of my hands
on the way back to the place I was standing.
Sleeping on a pull-out couch.
Oh, no.
Although they do those.
Have you seen the Ecosa ones?
Yes.
They look so good.
They go flop, flop.
Flop, flop.
Yeah.
There's no spring.
And it's the Ecosa.
It's just a big fat.
I think fold-out beds have come a long way.
Yeah.
But this is a problem when you get an Airbnb with a group of friends and you get the crappy bed.
Because you're a single, right?
Yeah.
A lot of people will be like, well, Fletch, you can go on there.
And you're like, no. No. Too old Because you're a single, right? Yeah. A lot of people would be like, well, Fletch, you can go on that. No.
No.
Too old for that.
I'll just get my own Airbnb.
Too old for that.
Too old for that shit.
Someone said bending my knees.
Someone said concerts.
You've got to keep the knees bending, guys.
Oh, I see.
I just love,
live music is just amazing.
Yeah.
High heels, that's me.
I'm too old for that.
And I just,
there's no need.
Have you ever really done high heels I will when I MC an event
right
to add a level of class
but going out
to a party
club
anything
never
no way
boots
always
too old for that
too old for that
and someone else said
dear shit
I'm just too old for dear shit
for just everything
for just everything
for just everything
so I'm sure we all have many of these
and that's what we want to ask this morning
what is the thing that you're like I'm too old for that now you know we just can't everything. So I'm sure we all have many of these, and that's what we want to ask this morning. What is the thing that you're like,
I'm too old for that now?
You know, we just can't be having that.
I'm too old.
Just everything.
Everything.
Everything.
You've got to get out of the house more.
No, I don't know.
I'm trying.
But, nah.
Too old for that.
Yeah, too old for that.
Oh, someone just texted in,
bloody camping, too old for that.
So I'm not sleeping in a sack. Oh, no, that'll make you feel young again. Just, yeah. Too old for that. Oh, someone just texted in, bloody camping, too old for that, so I'm not sleeping in a sack.
Oh, no, that'll make you feel young again.
I love this, too old for sleeping in a sack
held up with sticks.
Held up with sticks.
Well, you've been camping at the weekend in lockdown.
I've been camping,
and I'm going camping again this weekend.
I've been camping a few times lately.
I think it's great.
Yep.
I don't know, there's something freeing about it.
Yeah.
Okay, well, I'll...
You know, my mate who's on the run
down on the west coast of the North Island with his kids.
I was just talking to him last night.
Oh, were you?
Yeah, he hiked to the...
So, do you have contact with him?
Yeah, he hiked to the top of the hill
so he could get a cell call out and gave me a call.
He's having a great time camping as well.
Is he?
Yeah.
God, why haven't they caught them?
0800-DONALDZM is the number.
Give us a call.
You can text through 9696.
What do you feel way too old for right now?
We want to know what you feel way too old for.
There's a great thread on Reddit,
people sharing things from going to the clubs
to just bending down and picking something up.
What are you feeling too old for at the moment?
A lot of messages in.
Someone said I'm too old for Snapchat.
That's fair enough.
I was out of the Snapchat game until my daughter got it,
and then I was like, well, that's how I communicate with her now.
Now you've got streaks now.
Streaks.
When it opens, I'm like, what is all the things?
There's so many things.
Who are these people?
I don't follow any of these people.
Yeah, I don't want to age up, but also I'm like that with TikTok.
I'm like, where's the tab for the things that are mine
and the things I follow and do? How is your TikTok going for your comedy? I'm like that with TikTok. I'm like, where's the tab for the things that are mine and the things I follow and do?
How is your TikTok going for your comedy?
I'm really struggling.
I'm posting and it's just not working.
I don't know it.
I don't know what to do.
Yeah.
Anyway, it sucks.
I'm 47 years old and I'm too old for the latest Call of Duty.
Just can't keep up with the kids anymore
and sometimes I feel a little bit sick.
Oh, no.
The graphics are too good. The graphics are too good.
The graphics are too good.
It feels too good.
It gives you a little bit of...
Queuing up for shit, somebody said.
Oh, you can't be bothered.
I'm not doing a queue.
I never do a queuing up.
Mel, good morning.
Hi, guys.
This is the same...
You feel the same way about queuing?
Oh, my God.
Like, yes.
So, I take the children
into the mall
and I walk
towards the new
Cinnabon.
Oh, yum.
And I'm just like,
oh, I know,
the smell, right?
Oh, yeah.
It's yum.
Gets you.
But, yeah.
But then I see that queue
and I'm like,
nah, I'm sorry.
Too often, this.
Yeah, I've only got
40 years left.
And I'm not spending it lining up.
For a Cinnabon.
Although yum, though.
Although yum.
Mel, thank you.
More messages in.
I love that.
Perspective on life.
I'm not queuing up.
40 years left.
I recently found out I'm too old to be drinking cool lime cruisers.
Yeah.
Someone woke up the next day and was like, what have I done?
The sugar, eh?
Like, that headache.
Too old to be this hungover at work as I randomly find myself this morning. Aww. Yeah. Someone woke up the next day and was like, what have I done? The sugar, eh? Like, that headache.
Too old to be this hungover at work as I randomly find myself this morning.
Oh, what a winter day.
On a Tuesday night, you went big.
The moment I went for taco Tuesday, there might have been some margis.
Maybe. Yeah, true.
Oh, listen, allowed cars go too fast down my street at night.
Too old for that.
Too old to pander to the patriarchy.
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
You take them down.
Too old to pretend I like food that I don't like
because I'll just be like, I don't like this.
I don't want to eat it.
I'm not going to eat it.
I'm too old.
I'm too old for Instagram.
Too many teeny boppers on there requesting my friendship
and I look at their page and their bio has hot face on it. No thanks, love. I'm not old for Instagram. Too many teeny boppers on there requesting my friendship and I look at their page and their bio has hot face on it.
No thanks, love.
I'm not a sugar mama.
I have not heard the term teeny bopper in such a long time.
Oh, look at all these little teeny boppers.
Is this someone getting hit on like a cougar,
getting hit on by guys?
Yeah.
Okay.
Some of us could only dream.
Just checking my DMs.
Nope.
Two hour sex marathons.
Too old for that shit.
Too old for that.
Work Bessie, who's seven years younger than me,
loved to gloat about her late night antics.
No thanks, love.
I need my sleep.
Otherwise, I'll wake up and my undies will be on inside out.
You could just get it done a lot quicker.
You know what I mean?
It's a long time.
Yeah.
I mean, you divvy up the time.
I'm too old to learn anything new.
I always tell young people my brain's full and there's no room for new stuff,
especially anything involving...
You've got to keep learning, otherwise the brain shuts down, doesn't it?
Yeah.
I'm too old for life.
It's very tiring.
Oh, darling.
It is tiring.
It is tiring.
Sometimes it feels like that is life. Like, today is only Wednesday. No, it's not. It's Friday,. Oh, darling. It is tiring. It is tiring. Sometimes it feels like that is life.
Like today is only Wednesday.
No, it's not.
It's Friday, you dumb idiot.
It's not.
It's Wednesday.
But it's a privilege.
Yeah.
It is a privilege.
It's a privilege.
To live every moment.
But my back hurts.
Yes.
And my Botox is wearing off.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm too old to tooth my toilet paper.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm also too old for running out of toilet paper because I've got two preteens
and they go through so much toilet paper,
my husband will buy cheaper toilet paper,
but then there's no toilet paper or it's two-ply toilet paper.
No, you've got to go the long rolls.
That's not good.
No, they're too heavy on my,
I've got quite a delicate, dainty handle.
Oh, that's right.
Holder, yeah.
I feel too old to be going to work.
I'm 44.
How much longer do they want out of me?
21 years, I think. Yeah, 21 years. And to be honest, if you're 44 how much longer do they want out of me? 21 years 21 years
and to be honest
if you're 44
by the time you get to 65
it's probably going to be 69
yeah these boomers
are going to bleed us dry
yeah
sorry
somebody else said
oh yeah
too old
to sit behind a car
that's so low
it has to go over
the hump sideways
what?
yes
come on
come on god yes I'm too old to book anything important on my phone sideways. Come on! Come on!
God, yes. I'm too old to book anything
important on my phone. I need the full PC sitting there.
Yes! That's good, though.
You're booking
some flights this weekend. Are you going to
book on the laptop or the phone? On the big laptop.
On the big laptop.
I would never book a big thing on a phone.
You've got to get out the big dog. Why don't you just
try it on a phone? Because I'll stuff it up. You need to see the big thing on a phone. You've got to get out the big dog. Why don't you just try it on a phone?
Because I'll stuff it up.
You need to see the big, the full picture.
The big screen.
And all the tabs.
Right.
Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley.
So Instagram, they're always adding little new features,
and I like it.
It's my chosen social media of choice.
I like it.
I understand it.
It's sleek.
It's plain.
TikTok is an absolute mess. Right. It's sleek, it's plain. TikTok is an absolute mess.
It's doing too much.
You don't like TikTok because you haven't been able to take off
with your comedy on TikTok.
There's been sometimes I posted something to TikTok
and I was like, brace yourselves, guys.
I may be leaving my job pretty soon.
Somebody's just messaged in saying,
is this new feature on Instagram, the repost button?
Because it's now in a space of the share button that's moved up.
Okay, so do you know what? Our friend
James accidentally
shared quite a savage gay meme
the other day and didn't realise.
That's what they're saying.
It's moved up, so the amount of reels I've accidentally
clicked repost and it's a one click
thing, then you have to quickly go and
unpost because people don't understand the dodgy
reels I'm sharing with my brother. Terrible
feature. Where does it share to?
Your stories?
Yeah. Okay, that's okay.
No, it's not.
It's not when you've got a public profile. No, it's not.
You think of the last three that you
sent us and then you think
that you're publicly saying to everybody
I think this is funny.
Because there's no button in between that and sharing.
There's no like, you're about to share this.
I think it's a one click.
It just does it.
It just reposts it in one click.
Somebody's losing their job.
I'm going to lose my job.
I'm getting cancelled today.
I'm going to lose my job.
That was some real dark shit.
That was just for Fletch.
He thought it was funny. If I'm going was just for Fletch. Okay.
He thought it was funny.
If I'm going down, we're all going down too.
I'm taking you two with me.
Okay.
Hey, we do agree, though, eh?
If this ship goes down, we all go down together.
Yeah, dude.
It's going to be fun.
It's going to be fun.
And it's going to be fun.
And then we sell everything we've got.
We pool our resources.
Fletch is going to be doing a lot of heavy lifting there.
That's all right.
And then we all buy one house that we live in.
In Brazil.
Love that idea. Do you know what I mean? I'm not mad.
Or because we accidentally reposted a
dodgy meme. I'm going to repost it now. That sounds
great. We have a podcast called like
Cancelled. And we're like, woo, what's up?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cancelled, live from Brazil.
So this Instagram feature is not the
repost one touch button.
No, it's scheduling.
So you can schedule your reels.
Scheduling or schedule?
Which one is it?
We had this argument at the dinner table last night.
Not an argument, a discussion.
I say scheduling.
Because I think Simon Dallow said scheduled on the news.
Oh, yeah.
He would know.
How posh.
Shouldn't it be scheduled?
Well, if Simon's saying scheduled.
Scheduled.
No, it's too much.
It's doing too much with my mouth. And I've got a lazy mouth. Yeah. How to. No, it's scheduled. Well if Simon's saying scheduled. Scheduled. No it's too much, it's doing too much with my mouth
and I've got a lazy mouth. Planned. Yeah.
How to, no it's scheduled.
How to schedule an Instagram
DM. So
you can schedule your posts and your reels and whatnot
to go like okay I want to do it later this day
but I'm going to be busy. That's fine.
So they're
saying this is huge for reply guys
because you can basically, here's the three things that they say this is going for reply guys because you can,
here's the three things that they say
this is going to be good for, pardon me.
Guys who want to be the first to say happy birthday.
So they'll go, I'll remember it's your birthday.
And so like a week out, you could be like,
happy birthday, Hayley.
Send at 7am on your birthday.
At 7am I'm going to wake up and be like,
oh my God, he remembered.
Oh my God, thanks, babe.
He'll be like, thanks what?
Yeah.
You said happy birthday.
I didn't.
You just missed it.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Happy birthday.
I'd go on uneven time like 7.03am.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it looks like you haven't scheduled.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you ever get an email and it's at a perfect time?
You're like, oh, you scheduled.
Scheduled.
You haven't actually had me in your heart and your thoughts.
Okay, people who don't want to seem too eager
but also don't want to forget to message a new friend.
When you're like, okay, I really like him.
I want to message him.
But I don't want to be too much because I'm thinking of him now.
I'll give it the mandated three hours.
But I don't want to leave it five hours and be like,
oh my God, I didn't message him.
So you can schedule that.
Or dudes, it's just all guys who want to say good morning,
beautiful, but also want to sleep in.
Yeah.
You're going to say good morning, beautiful, and then
sleep for another three hours and then not reply
for three hours? Also, my thought was like,
oh, so are you scheduling them for like when
your partner's asleep? You know what I mean?
Your partner's asleep and you're just like sending whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, all these DMs to beautiful people.
So apparently it's now here.
I mean, I can try it to schedule a DM. I just don't think I'll ever need to use this.
It's going to go like this.
I'm on the FVH.
Oh yeah, the last thing.
We could not share that.
Okay.
Hey, my boys.
You just watch your fingers around that button then.
Hey, my boys.
Maybe I haven't got it yet.
Invite group to blend, but that's there.
Is blend there?
Yeah.
Start it.
Start it.
Start it.
Kick off blend.
Let's see how dark it can get in 12 hours.
That's a group chat just for your memes.
Group chat for your reels.
Yeah.
It'll give you a feed of all the stuff you're into.
We are joined again by the wonderful Bad News Brad,
Principal Economist at... And CEO at Infometrics and CEO Officer.
EO.
Is it EO?
Chief Executive.
He just doesn't say Officer.
I'm not just a Chief Officer.
Oh, okay.
That's like a military rank, I reckon.
There's so many OO options now.
Yeah, Big Dog.
Big Dog kind of covers all.
Big Dog Brad.
Big Dog.
Yeah.
Today, Brady, we want to talk with you about budgeting tips.
Because everybody, whether they're working with a bigger income or a small income,
is trying to budget at the moment.
Well, and hopefully should be.
And if you're not, that's probably the first tip.
Start.
Just start.
Just get.
Stop buying those forever jackets and just start.
Well, I think the big thing here, like, let's be clear. stop buying those forever jackets and just start.
Well, I think the big thing here, like, let's be clear,
we're not trying to punish people for what they're currently doing because if you're starting to think about your money,
you're starting to think about your finances and that,
like, that's a huge first leap that you're making.
And I think, honestly, the first thing is just more of a catalog
what you're currently doing before you even start to think about,
geez, I want a budget and I only want to spend three cents a week on this thing just what are you spending on because
I bet you they probably don't know yeah oh my god I did this I made a full budget and I put in what
I kind of anticipated we were spending a month yeah and then the plan was at the end of the month
to put in the actual spending those categories oh my Oh my God. Yeah. I couldn't believe it. A lot of bank apps or banking websites
have the handy little breakdowns now, don't they?
So that can help you.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
But when you don't actually focus on that and break it down,
it's very easy just to live in ignorant bliss, isn't it?
Well, my thing was like the dairy,
like the dairy's all adding up
every time we're popping down to the dairy.
You know, a little chocolate bar
and a sweet treat and a drink sort of thing, man, it adds up. And then a magazine while I you know a little chocolate bar and and a sweet treat
and a drink sort of thing yeah it adds up and then a magazine while i'm there and then this and then
that and then alone and that's why i look if you open up your bank app and you just have a quick
scan through like most of them are probably going to look small so oh that lunch you know i mean
that was justified oh yeah the coca-cola i got at the dairy oh that's that's justified as well
but when you put it all together. But I think this is the,
I mean, if you can use whatever is with your banking app or, you know, if there's another free one
that you can have a play around with,
make a gorgeous spreadsheet.
I love one of them.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
So how do you start with your spreadsheet?
Like, do you break it down into different categories
or do you just put everything that you spend in a big row?
I reckon your best bet is to start with sort of
the bigger categories.
Food is the main one.
Your rent, your fuel, what you might spend on clothes if you're doing that regularly.
Gym membership, that's every month or whatever.
I'd probably have a separate one for memberships and subscriptions
because that's sort of a recurring thing.
Like you don't know exactly how much you're going to pay for food every week.
Every now and then you're going to have to buy some more toilet paper or whatever.
Olive oil.
Or when you need to go and get toothpaste in the big shop.
Some more washing powder.
That stuff costs.
Washing powder and olive oil in the sun.
You're like, that's $5,000.
You're like, excuse me?
And that's why you get the slightly more expensive chocolate.
Because you need a little treat for all that hard work.
Because it's stressful.
But look, I mean, yeah, start there.
The other one is, again,
like, don't try and go too crazy.
It's probably, I mean, not that I do this, but
it's probably like when you try and do a diet or a new
fad or go to the gym all the time. If you change
everything all at once, you're just not going to
stick to it. It's not sustainable. Start small
and go, okay, now I have an idea of how much
I'm spending. Normally I spend X amount
on food every week. Let's not try
and, let's go 10% below that.
Let's try and carve off 20 bucks from what it normally
is and see if we can, oh is that achievable? Oh yep,
okay, that's not a bad spot. The next
one is when you start to get in, you've got a bit more of an
idea of what you're spending on, have a look at
something like the sort of, we want to try and make this simple,
50-30-20 rule.
50% of what you're spending to go on your
needs, the absolute essentials
and all of that.
30% maybe on your wants,
things that you don't need as much,
but all are pretty nice.
Jackets, chocolate.
Jackets, jackets.
Yeah, all of the above, studs and not.
Yep.
And then the 20% on savings,
you know, savings and or debt repayments and that.
You want to sort of build something for the future as well. So this is your percent of your income?
Yeah, of your spending sort of thing.
So if you can split it up like that
and have a bit of an idea around that,
it starts to give you at least
a more comfortable position of how you're starting on it.
That's so nice and simple to think of it that way.
The other one, and this is where the 20% comes in important,
is you want an emergency fund.
Have you guys all got emergency funds?
No.
If something happened today, if the car broke down,
if your kids needed to go to the doctor,
have you got some emergency cash in a bank account that you can just use?
A credit card's okay.
Is that what you mean?
No.
It's ringing up the bank and being like,
I've got a little bit more, please.
No, an overdraft is also not there.
No, the answer's no.
We're not talking huge amounts here.
I'm not saying $50,000, but make it small and incremental.
But it just means that if you are in
a bit of a tougher spot and something comes
through, not all of your finances
are just destroyed all at once. You can
build it up. It's not going to be something you should touch
often, but it is for, it's more
than just a rainy day account.
It's the, when things go bad,
it's a one-off and you're
able to just do it and sort it.
It makes your life a lot easier these people
in my life
and people I know's life Brad
some people call them woman
but I'm not going to put a label on it
dangerous territory now
they tend to see money
sitting in an account
and think it must be spent
I wish I could argue
I wish I could be like
Vaughn don't
oh
oh
oh no
as you were my friend
well
funnily enough
this is possibly one of my other tips.
Have a think about splitting up your money into different bank accounts.
Have multiple different accounts for different purposes.
So that people can't see it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Brady, Brady.
No, no, not necessarily hidden.
But, like, I know a lot of people who, you know,
the money all comes into one big account,
and it just sits there, and all the different parts come out. come out so like you're never quite sure what you're spending on
anything because it's just so huge like i know some people and look sometimes it gets a bit
extreme like i'm sure i've got one friend that's got like 20 different bank accounts and so their
money comes in from their pay and then it automatically gets split up ones like the food
account ones like the rent account oh no that's too much but for some people will work because
then they can compartmentalise
how it all works out.
So you don't see a wad of money sitting there
and think, oh I could buy a jacket
but actually that's got food money in it, petrol money
in it, everything. It makes sense.
If you think of your insurance repayments, right?
Your insurance payments, if you
generally you'll get it cheaper if you pay it off
on one big lump sum. Yeah, I do that.
Now if you pay it off on one big lump sum. Yeah, I do that. Now, if you pay it off on one big lump sum,
it means that for the next 364 days that you've got nothing.
So you might have a whole bunch of money sitting there
that you've in your mind gone, that's for insurance.
But then you spend and then when insurance time comes around,
you're like, oh, I already spent that on insurance.
Why did you hack my emails?
How did you do that?
Because I pay mine annually and it is good
because for the rest of the year you just know it's not coming.
But every year you're like, oh oh God, there's that bill.
So if you put away whatever, you know, the $10, whatever you need,
a week or whatever into the separate account,
then yes, it looks big but all of a sudden it's going to drain
and then it's going to slowly rebuild for the next year.
So sometimes doing that or an automatic payment or something
can just be a little bit helpful for you to feel like you're in control
because the biggest thing here is you want to feel in control you don't want to feel like money is
doing all of these challenging things to you you're going no I've grasped the bull by the
horns I know what I want this is how I want my money to work for me and so this is how I'm going
to set it out. Any other tips? Probably the last one is keep reviewing it like once you've got
something that works don't assume it's always going to work forever you know if you start to
suddenly think about saving up for a house or you get into a new relationship or you end a relationship
or you start to think about children or you see a nice new jacket,
review it and go, actually, look, I like the jacket.
I'm going to put five bucks a week away into the jacket account
because now I think I like jackets.
I think the thing with the jacket is don't try it on.
I didn't go in to buy the jacket, Brad.
I just said, oh, I'll try it on. I will go back in to buy the jacket, Brad. I just said, oh, I'll try
it on. I will go back to one of the tips that I have
provided on this show before, which
is add it to your cart for a couple of days
and then come back to it and go, do I actually
really want it? There was only two more in the country, Brad.
You know what I mean? And it's got studs on it. It's a jacket for a lifetime.
This is a marketing tip.
I'm going to show you this jacket, Brad, and it'll blow your mind.
This is a marketing tip, people, like you must buy now because
otherwise it's all going to run away from you.
Hayley, you've been sucking it in, my friend.
Yeah, and I look cool doing it.
False urgency.
Where is it?
Where is it?
I'm going to show you.
It's got studs on it.
Still too hot for any of your jackets.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It looks like all of the others.
Do you know, I cancelled a subscription recently
and when I was leaving, when I was cancelling it,
it said, is there a reason why?
And I said, it costs too much money.
And then I clicked out.
Next day I got a thing saying,
would you like to try this for 50% off for the next?
And I was just like,
huh.
Now,
and the important thing there
is then you've got a big decision.
Is it actually that it's not worth it
or was it too expensive?
Yeah.
Because sometimes you're like,
actually look,
even at 50%,
like I don't use this thing.
I don't use it enough.
Yeah, totally.
That was the reason I cancelled it.
I just don't use it enough at the moment.
Whereas sometimes,
that's the other thing,
it's worthwhile every now and then going through your subscriptions
and being like, well, if I cancel and then I try and resubscribe,
are they going to give me a better deal?
So I'm supposed to, Brad, so you're telling me
that I'm supposed to walk into a store and see this jacket
and not buy it?
Yes.
That I was supposed to?
Yes.
The picture's not showing you the studs.
What are we talking here?
How many?
You don't want to know, Brad.
You don't want to know. Three. You don't want to know.
You've heard of Brad?
Three figures?
Oh, yes, of course, three figures.
She doesn't buy anything
that's not three figures
before the decimal point.
Yes.
Brad, thank you so much
for the budgeting tips.
Incredible.
Yeah, you're amazing.
It's always very helpful
and informative
and we love how you
make it nice and simple
to understand.
Great fun to be back in.
Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.
Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley.
Fletchborn and Hayley, silly little pole, silly little pole.
It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little pole,
silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole,
silly little pole. Silly little pole today isilly Little Pole, Silly Little Pole, Silly Little Pole.
Silly Little Pole today is what's the best way to get your fish and chips fish?
You know?
What's the best way to get your fish and chips fish?
Crumbed or battered?
Yes.
Crumbed, man.
It's crumbed, right?
It's a yuck.
I was walking past someone on the phone, obviously making a phone order for fish and chips recently,
and they were like, what do you mean you don't do crumbed?
Crumbed is classy.
Crumbed is nicer because it guarantees crispness,
whereas battered, sometimes if it sits in with the chips
and it gets hot again and moist from the chip steam,
it cannot be crispy.
Crumbed just makes me think of those frozen fish things
that you get at the supermarket.
No, you're going to a bad fish and chippery.
No, it's battered every time.
Battered's the way to go.
Battered's delicious.
If someone got me a piece of battered fish,
I'd be like, yum, yum, thank you very much.
But if I'm ordering, crumbed all the time.
Because crumbed lives in with the chips and the hot dogs
and the squid rings and all that.
What do you like?
The crab sticks.
The crab sticks.
I love the crab sticks.
So much crab in them.
Just nothing but crab.
Hayley, we don't talk about the crab content.
100% crab.
I was going to Google what's in a crab stick, but I won't.
No, don't Google.
No, don't.
We don't need to know.
They're the sausage of the sea.
Yeah.
Aren't they, really?
They are.
They're the sausage of the sea.
100% delicious is what you'll find.
74% of people said battered.
Wow.
26% of people said crumbs.
This is not surprising.
They're simple people.
No, I'm sorry.
Crumbed are simple people.
Oh, classy people.
Briar coming out swinging.
Crumbed is for small children that wear singlets because they're cold.
No.
Crumbed is for adults.
They're not for cold small children, Briar. Soggy battered fish is for babies. Briar is not for small children that wear singlets because they're cold. No! Crumbed is for adults. Not for cold, small children, Briar.
Soggy, battered fish is for babies.
Briar, it's not for small children.
Cold, cold, small children.
Holly said bear battered is king.
Oh, yeah.
Do you know bear battered wedges, which are a superior wedge
because they also go crispier?
Yeah.
My kids eat them and they're just like, oh, I feel sick.
Because they're pissed.
Because they're pussies.
Oh, my God, they're on the turps.
There's actually no beer though
in them, right?
Well, it's cooked out.
Or it'd be cooked out, right?
Yeah, the alcohol.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're not saying
because they just don't like the taste.
I'm like,
who doesn't like beer-battered?
It rules.
If anyone thinks he's beer-battered,
I'm like, hot out.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, if everyone's reaching.
Beer-battered onion rings?
Now we're talking.
Beer-battered hot out.
That was the most rangy-order thing you've ever said.
Beer-battered hard-out.
Onion rings are insane.
Yum.
It's just battered onion.
I know, it's yum.
It's so yum.
It's like a potato fritter.
It's just a sliced piece of potato.
It's a flat, and we bloody love them.
Aaron gets chips and potato fritters.
I'm like, they're just big chips.
But often, you get something else, man. Something else. That's what they should call're just big chips. Chip discs. Get something else, man.
Something else.
Chip discs.
That's what they should call them.
Chip discs.
CDs.
Chip discs.
Battered, especially if it's bear battered,
between two pieces of thick white bread heavily buttered with a kiss.
Oh.
Or ta-ta sauce.
I nearly swore.
God, I was like, ha.
Yeah, Liam.
Maddie said, people who voted battered are dumb
and have clearly never tried crumbed as it's the only logical answer.
Finally, someone on team crumbed in the talent section.
Some class, some class on the show.
Zoe said, I worked in a fish and chip shop and used to do the cooking.
The crumb fish was put in the batter first, then covered in crumb.
So technically, whether you're getting batter or not,
you're still getting batter.
It's just additional crumbs.
Okay, apology.
Wow.
Aw.
I assumed something was holding those crumbs on there.
Yeah.
I didn't think they were just hoping every time
that crumb was going to stick to straight fish.
I just thought maybe they just wet the fish.
They wet the fish.
They wet the fish.
Eggie, yeah.
What'd they wet it with?
Because when I crumb fish, you go flour, egg dip.
Crumbs.
Crumbs.
Yes.
That's the correct way to crumb.
But the fish and chip shop that's doing 40 of these things is not doing that, right?
No, they're not messing around like that.
They're just wetting the fish.
Wetting the fish and away they go.
Dipping it in a cup of water.
Crumbs for your beef and chicken schnitzel, not for fish, says Nathan.
Yeah, I'd agree.
I'm team Nathan on that one.
Actually, I'm just really aghast at this.
Ali said, on the journey to health, so eating crumbed currently.
Well, we've just learned, Ali.
You're not on the journey to health because you're just getting more carbohydrates. You can't be on a journey to health so eating crumbed currently. Well, we've just learned how. You're not on the journey to health because you're
just getting more carbohydrates.
You can't be on a journey
to health eating deep fried fish.
No, it's still deep fried hon.
You can have a seared fish.
Now we're on a journey to health.
Oh.
I know, that's the saddest.
Pan-seared.
Pan-seared market fish.
Because you're going to have
to go to a restaurant to get it.
It's going to cost you $30.
Yeah.
What's the fish of the day?
It's a standard bog, standard snapper.
How much is that? $85.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man.
Oh, hold on. I've got one more.
I've got one more. Nun.
Says Daniel. Oh, Jesus. I'm glad I clicked.
Nun fish. I'm sure glad I clicked on that last tab.
Nun batter or... No, I think she's saying nun fish.
Oh, nun fish. Nun fish. Oh, okay.
I'll grow up. Yeah.
Now that's a child who wears a singlet because they're cold.
You ain't fish.
Yeah.
Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley.
The show thanks to Animates Advice and Products for every bougie.
That's budget.
If you don't speak posh.
So unnecessary for every bougie.
This was huge news last year.
Dave Grohl caught...
Foo Fighters. Foo Fighters.
Foo Fighters from Nirvana was caught...
Well, not caught cheating.
Admitted that he had cheated on his wife
and that he had impregnated a woman.
Yeah, kind of forced hand when you've got a new baby
coming into the world.
Oh, had she not been hapu,
there would have been no reveal of this.
But people were shocked when they saw him and his wife out and about on the street,
just living their life, big smiles, looking just completely normal,
despite the fact that his secret love child will be imminent?
Born any day or has been.
Yeah, born, born, born.
I was going to say.
Born by now, surely.
Born by now.
And he had said, I will be a father to this kid.
You know, I'll step up as a dad.
So they just looked absolutely fine.
And also his kids are like adult now, eh?
Yeah, and they kind of turned on him a little bit.
Well, not turned on him, but said like,
we're distancing ourselves from him.
Immediately in the weeks after it came out in public,
him and his wife were spotted without wedding rings.
So everyone was like, she's out.
Wasn't she seeing the tennis, the lovely tennis coach?
Yeah, that was rumoured.
Yeah.
But now apparently they're out and about
and Los Angeles smiles on their faces as if nothing happened.
Wedding rings?
Wedding rings, hands holding, walking close, laughing, enjoying each other's company.
And do you know what?
People do forgive the cheating.
Look, I am...
Could you?
Yeah.
I'm just researching neurosciencenews.com, male-female infidelity.
Might I partake in a slight reading?
Please do, sir.
Oh, okay.
The summary of the study says that males and females
view physical and emotional cheating differently.
Women consider emotional affairs to be more serious
and men believe physical infidelity to be more serious generally.
Researchers report if one partner feels their relationship
is threatened by cheating,
it is harder to forgive them for infidelity regardless of gender.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, that makes sense, right?
The dude's like, oh, does he have a bigger,
does he shag better than me? And women are like, do you love her? You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that makes sense, right? The dude's like, does he have a bigger, does he shag better than me?
And women are like, do you love her?
You know?
Yeah, yeah.
Totally.
Did you buy her flowers?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
Is she funnier than me?
Is she funnier than me?
That would be mine.
Wow.
Yeah.
She's actually won a Billy T.
What?
And I've just been loosely nominated for a friend.
And she's already hosted the gala like five times. Why do you guys hate me?
Why do you hate me?
You know?
We're like your older brothers.
We know exactly where to poke.
I'm not crying.
So this is what we want to talk about this morning.
By the way, you were an accident.
45, 43
and 34.
You were an afterthought in this family i was 10 years late yeah you were
way after i think mum and dad were just trying to rekindle something no they were trying to fill
a void that you two hadn't filled right into your born in october right so it was just
summer holiday sort of thing
younger brothers and sisters know when they're 10 or 15 years younger,
they know they're in an accident.
Oh, 100%.
It's like if one sibling looks slightly different,
you've got to tell them they're adopted constantly.
Absolutely.
Anyway, back to the cheating.
We want to know this morning,
has your relationship survived a cheating scandal?
Or maybe it didn't last forever,
but did you get back with the person
and give it another go?
Maybe this was a while ago,
you did forgive them and it lasted a while. Yeah, or it didn't. forever, but did you get back with the person and give it another go? Maybe this was a while ago. You did forgive them and it lasted a while.
Yeah, or it didn't.
We just want to know.
Because usually you would think that the knee jerk reaction would be there's been a cheat.
And then the relationship's over.
But you hear this.
Some people survive it.
Straight relationships?
No, no.
Welcome the gays.
This article was talking about heterosexual couples.
Yeah.
Infidelity is one of the most common reasons
that heterosexual couples break up.
Different setups.
But the gays give each other a high five.
They're like, go you, babe.
The gays will just be like, let's just sort this out now.
Put some clear rules.
Oh, no.
And there's no issues.
Wow.
Life is for living, mate.
Life is for living.
Carpe diem, I say to the gays
carpe diem
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Darls at M
I just say
don't carpe
all the diems
not all the diems
to the gays
I'd say leave some diems
for everybody else
leave your main diems
for your main partner
but carpe the rest of them
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did you survive
the cheating
Dave Grohl and his wife
have been sent out and about
in Los Angeles
holding hands or laughs, wedding rings back on.
Yep.
After the fact that last year it was announced that he had fathered a child
with someone he had cheated on his wife with.
So, you know, not great optics.
No.
Not great optics.
Not great optics.
Okay, PR.
Okay, PR representatives.
Optics aren't great here, guys.
We need to go for some low-hanging fruit and some blue sky thing
to get this BAT 360 on track.
Just imagine you tell your partner Aaron
you've cheated on him.
You're like,
okay, we don't have great optics here.
Listen, I've slept for so long.
I slipped.
I understand that the optics aren't great here.
You know?
Let's brainstorm.
Let's brainstorm.
What's next?
It's not about what's happened.
What's next?
Look forward.
We want to know if you,
did you survive the cheating?
Get back with them.
There are so many messages.
Obviously not a lot of calls.
It's something that people will get off their chest in text form
and I want to talk about it if their voice is identifiable.
And some quite lengthy sort of like messages as well.
Somebody said, when I was a teen,
my mum found out my dad had been cheating On and off for 10 years
They're still together
Celebrating 38 years married
This year
And they're probably
The happiest I've ever seen
Asterix
No they never broke up though
Asterix though
I reckon you chuck
An asterix in there
38 years
Asterix
And then down the bottom
Of the footnote
The asterix is
He was cheating
You know in the newspaper
Old couples like to be like
We're breaking together 50
Like I put an asterisk.
Asterisk.
Because what was it?
On the 40th year, he did sleep with Marjorie.
What movie or TV show was it where they were like,
what's the secret to a long and happy marriage?
And she says this thing and then the old guy learns it
and he's like, cheating.
Cheating.
Cheating, cheating.
Now, Anonymous has called up.
Anonymous, did you survive the cheating?
We did initially.
I chose to stay, but it didn't work out in the end.
So him, her, she, they, them?
Him.
He cheated on you?
How long had you been together when you found out that he cheated?
Just over a year.
It's probably like a year and a half.
Okay.
And did you know about her?
Was she hotter than you or better than you?
No.
I got a hey, girly message.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I didn't actually know the girl.
Okay.
But yeah, I chose to stay.
I was quite young.
Wait, what hey, girly did this come through as?
Hey, girly, he's doing this to both of us. I've just found out about you. You've just found out about me what, hey, girly, did this come through as, hey, girly, he's doing this to both of us,
I've just found out about you and you've just found out about me,
or hey, girly, I'm riddled with guilt, I know about you,
and I've been doing this.
So it was actually from a friend of,
so it was his friend's girlfriend who was also cheating on her.
Right.
And she'd found out about her boyfriend and told me about mine.
Oh, wow.
And it turns out they'd been cheating together.
Like, the two friends had just been going and doing their own thing.
Wow, okay.
But, yeah, so I found out, decided to stay.
We lasted another four years.
Oh, wow.
Four years?
It was, yeah.
Was that four years where you were completely monitoring all social media and movement?
Yeah.
I turned into, into like a psycho.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because it would be hard to let that go.
He'd be like, I'm just going to the supermarket to grab some things.
Are you?
Are you?
Yeah.
Is that what we're calling her now?
The supermarket?
Yeah.
To grab the things.
No, I think I should have probably seen the red flag and ran.
So at the end of your relationship, did you separate because of
other things or did he cheat again?
No, it was from other things
but to be fair, he was like a serial liar
and gaslighter so I probably wouldn't be surprised
if he did.
Thank God he's gone.
You're off now.
Okay, well, thank you for sharing it on us.
Listen to this great message.
Me, I survived it with my current partner.
So still together as we speak.
Five years into our relationship,
we slept with a co-worker who had just come out of a divorce.
He was going to leave me for her,
but his family said they would disown him
and our friends really frowned upon him
and he's known to be a respectful guy
and live with very high morals.
He then discovered she was also shagging another work colleague.
So we went through therapy and three years later,
still going strong.
That's amazing.
But again, there'd always been that little bit, eh?
And the fact that he was going to go.
Yeah.
But I don't think that you can't hold on to that, right?
Yes, you can.
That's a point.
Are you giving points?
Every argument going forward. You're giving points.
I'm not giving points, but if you cheat on me, that's a point for me.
You'd be like, I can't help but notice the dishwasher hasn't been unloaded.
And you cheated on me that time.
Just saying.
It's like a life cheat code to win anything.
Hayley, did you spend $500 on a jacket?
Yeah, but you cheated on me five years ago, so what are we going to do about it?
Hayley, you've ticked up $25,000 worth of things for this cheating.
What is the end? It's like an Uno Wildcard. You shouldn't have done that. Yeah, you've ticked up $25,000 worth of things for this cheating. What is the end?
It's like an Uno wildcard.
Boom! Wildcard.
We don't encourage that.
When I was a teenager, my mum found out that my dad had been
cheating on and off for 10 years. They're still together
celebrating 38 years. Did I read that one out?
And I said asterisks?
I thought it was less.
Or is this another one? Maybe another one.
A similar situation. He one. Similar situation.
He cheated on me 20 years ago.
We broke up, but we've been back together for three years.
No, that's a different text.
Yeah.
No, no, that's a different one.
That's a different one.
Okay.
I forgave cheating six months into our new relationship.
He was, okay, she uses the word banging.
Okay.
He was banging his ex.
Two years later, we're mostly good, but deep down, I do have major trust issues.
That needs a little bit, if you want that to survive,
I reckon it needs a little bit of therapy.
How do you get out of that?
I don't know.
You've got to learn how to, right?
You talk.
Not that same one.
I was going to read it again.
What is wrong with you?
I was going to read the one that was one about being pregnant,
and they cheated on them, and then mum,
okay, so mum cheated on dad two years into their marriage
and got pregnant, didn't carry out the pregnancy,
but my parents are still together and have been married for 32 years.
Okay.
That's got to be a big one though.
Yeah.
32 years.
We are also hearing a lot of messages about people being like,
don't, like 100%, don't trust them again.
Once a cheater, always a cheater. A lot of people coming in being like, I't like 100%, don't trust them again. Once a cheater, always a cheater. Yeah, once a cheater. A lot of people
coming in being like, I forgave and it was
not worth it.
I don't know
if this is considered cheating, but it is to me.
My now ex-boyfriend hid from me that he had an OnlyFans
account for six months. And I only
found out through snooping on his phone and he was being
real sus with me
near his phone and hated the fact I went
through his phone without him knowing. I clearly had a reason
because he was, oh, he was
paying $400 a month to see
other women on OnlyFans. In my mind, he
Oh, I thought he was content. I thought he was a
content creator. And I was like, he could probably
buy his way out of that problem. I would have just
said to him, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's hot.
I ended up staying with him for another six months
but I couldn't get over it in the end so I left.
$400 a month?
A month.
He's following a lot of people and getting a lot of private.
Or he's getting top tier.
Yeah, he's getting top tier and he's getting direct messages
and all that kind of stuff.
That's wild.
Like it's free.
It's free.
Just the thought of $400 a month.
It's free.
You're bleeding me dry.
And then you're like, oh no, but they message you directly.
No, they're not.
No, they don't.
Boyfriend cheated on me when I was pregnant.
Tried to make it work pretty quickly.
Got the act and cringed every time he touched me.
Obviously didn't last long after that.
Yeah.
Gotta be tough.
Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
Okay, I just want to finish off our topic about surviving the cheating with two texts.
Okay. I think strong contenders
for text of the week. Okay. Wow. And you
guys pick which one. My husband cheated
on me and my sister who is a doctor in psychology
said the only way to get over it is for
me to get under somebody else. So I did.
And we've been married for 15 years this year. Basically
it comes, you've got to even the playing field. If they
cheat on you, you've got to cheat on them.
One for one. Is that throughout the relationship? One for
one. I've done it. Off you go.
No, I think one and then you call
the game. Unless it just becomes a game.
It's an open relationship you speak of.
Someone else said,
I found out the week after my husband's funeral
that he'd been having an affair. So I guess you could say
we didn't survive it. Oh, that's
Text of the Week.
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Feed the dog.
The dogs don't cheat on you.
But they do die on you.
Yeah, they do die.
I was going to say cats don't cheat on you,
but they do.
That's why yours is locked in your house.
You know for a fact you'd be out there doing it.
Right now, though, time for
Fact of the Day, Day, DAY, DAY, DAY.
It's about smells.
It's about scents.
It's about aromas.
It's about processing them at this week's Fact of the Day theme
Smells, and today one of the best smells
You either love it or you hate it
Nah, coffee
Oh yeah
Freshly brewed or roasted coffee
Or like you go into a coffee place
And they roast it there
I was at a coffee roaster yesterday
Yum, yum
Even before I My little light got into drinking coffee Roast it there? I was at a coffee roaster yesterday. Yum, yum.
Even before I had my little light,
got into drinking coffee in the last couple of years,
I loved the smell of it, even though I never drank it.
An international group of scientists report that inhaling the warm aroma of a hot cup of coffee
alters activity in some of the genes in the brain,
reducing the effects of sleep deprivation
without even having to drink it.
Huffing it?
It starts before.
Oh.
Just smelling it.
Is it because you associate it?
You associate it?
It's like a Pavlov's dog thing.
The brain starts saliva-ing because it can smell it rather than, yeah,
before tasting it.
Love that.
Coffee smells.
In 2012, Dunkin' Donuts pumped coffee smell onto public transport
when their jingle
played over the speakers in Korea.
What?
That feels like invasive
advertising. Well it worked because coffee sales
went up 29%
for Dunkin Donuts.
Because they were hearing the Dunkin Donuts
Dunkin Donuts, Dunk, Dunk, Dunk, Dunk
Donuts, Donuts, Donuts.
I don't know if that's how it went.
Yeah, where do you dunk them?
In your coffee.
Where do you put them?
In your mouth.
Where do you put them?
Dunkin' Donuts.
Dunkin' Donuts.
Yum, yum, yum.
Was the jingle.
At the same time, release the smell of coffee.
Coffee sales went up 29%
and the patronage of Dunkin' Donuts near bus stops went up monstrously.
Wow.
Okay, tripled.
Do you have anything around how coffee neutralises?
Yes.
I did look into that.
Because you know when you're at a perfume place?
The great neutraliser.
Yeah.
I sponsor Chemist Warehouse, they have a little bowl of beans.
A little bowl of beans.
They put out a little bowl of beans.
At bloody Duty Free, right?
Yeah. There was a little bowl of beans
and in between sniffing them, because your nose
gets all full of it,
half a bit of coffee. Because you don't want to sniff J-Lo
first. You can't go J-Lo glow first.
It lingers too long on the palate. And then everything
else smells like J-Lo glow.
Yeah. Okay, I've just
asked ChatGPT for a succinct answer to that
question while I tell you that coffee is also
in the top three regularly of New Zealanders
favourite smells. Yeah it is. Coffee
three, flowers two, freshly baked
bread one. Oh yeah. And that's where I
can tell you that it is the
Maillard reaction that is present
in a lot of foods that contributes
mostly to the colouring
like when you're cooking bread that when the bread
goes brown or like you do you use
sourdough where the top cracks open and it browns,
that is the Malliard effect.
It's a reaction between sugars and proteins.
And a byproduct is that golden brown crust,
but also the smell of things like coffee being roasted,
chocolate being, the beans of chocolate being roasted
before it's made into chocolate.
Steak, when you sear a steak and immediately you smell it
when it hits that hot plate and you're like...
Grilled cheese, the golden crust of grilled cheese.
What about cooked onions?
Yes, the caramelisation of onions, correct.
That is dead right.
And sautéed garlic.
It's the Maillard effect that adds the colour but also adds the smell
and that's the smell most dominant in coffee.
Okay, neutralising, adaption.
When you're exposed to strong or prolonged scents,
your olfactory receptors become desensitised.
I would have told ChatGPT to make it more concise.
That's what I always say to ChatGPT.
More concise.
More concise.
Coffee contains a mix of volatile organic compounds
which engage different olfactory receptors,
the many floral fruity senses disrupting the connections
that you established on the previous smell.
Yeah, there you go.
And thus cleansing the olfactory palate.
Okay.
The nasal palate.
So it's just got...
Would that work if you've got a farty partner?
Like just have a bowl of coffee beans beside the bed.
Oh my God, I could do this for Aaron.
Yeah.
No, it would be the wrong thing to do because you become adapted to your,
the smell.
You've gassed yourself.
Very quickly.
It's like Rotorua.
You arrive and you're just like, man, that smells.
And then 10 minutes later you've forgotten about it.
But if you're all the time, that smells coffee beans.
Oh, that still smells coffee beans.
And I'm farting all night.
You're receding the entire time.
So it's best you let them acclimatise to the farts or Rotorua in this case
rather than cleanse the palate every time.
So today's fact of the day, there was lots of them.
I bombarded you with.
Coffee.
Facts about coffee and its aroma.
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
Play ZM's Flesh, Fawn and Hayley. I was doing some work in a cafe yesterday Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- in town. And so I had my laptop and I had my headphones in and I had my phone and stuff and I was doing some work
and I was on one of those
big long shared tables,
you know,
where there were like
three, four other people
with a laptop.
Yep.
There.
Also not buying anything
from the cafe.
No, I had a salmon omelette.
A salmon omelette?
I'm sorry,
but salmon doesn't go
in an omelette.
You,
every time I eat this omelette
I think of you.
I think,
do you know who will love
this omelette?
Me.
Carl Peter Fletcher.
Well, I'll give it a go.
I like salmon. You go. I like salmon.
You're saying I like salmon? Smoked
South Island salmon and a
soft French style omelette with a
bit of kale and some oil.
He loves me on the kale. Nah, don't worry, you can pick it up.
Anyway, eating my omelette, doing my thing.
And side thing, when you're
working in a cafe
and you need to go to the toilet, which I did three times
within the hour. Yeah.
I just leave my stuff. I might go If you're walking out in a cafe and you need to go to the toilet, which I did three times within the hour. Yeah. Do you?
You just leave.
I just leave my stuff.
I might go.
I'll do a soft shut.
Like it leaves an inch.
Oh, yeah.
So I can breathe.
So the keys can breathe.
Or so you don't have to log in again when you open up.
Yeah.
Yeah, I just have my phone, like phone, iPod case.
Yeah, just soft shut. Yeah. That's why when you go overseas, you. Yeah, I just have my phone, like phone, iPod case. Yeah, just soft shut.
Yeah.
That's why when you go overseas
you get mugged all the time.
Since the guy who got mugged.
Did you say iPod case?
Not iPod case.
Earpods.
Earpods.
When you're like,
I put down my iPod case.
It's got 256.
You can hear it whizzing.
You've got to use the click wheel.
Click, click, click, click, click, click, click.
But I always just trust people.
Yeah.
Anyway, what I didn't realise is I was scrolling through Instagram
because I was there to work.
Yeah.
So I was obviously scrolling on Instagram.
Just scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll.
And I put down my phone like that.
And I think I still had Instagram open as I do now, right?
Yeah.
And then I was like doing my work like this.
Coffee arrives.
Thank you.
Salmon omelette with kale arrives.
You can pick out the kale.
That beautiful off to the toilet and all this stuff.
I realised that my phone was open on a very zoomed in photo of Bad Bunny and his Calvin
Clines.
Which this was dropped yesterday, right?
Yeah, it was.
Yeah.
Bad Bunny and the Calvin Clines.
Here's the new Calvin Klein.
What do you call them?
Ambassador models?
Yeah.
Who was before him?
Justin Bieber's done it.
David Beckham's done it.
Who was before him?
There was someone big, right?
Big enough.
It was Bad Bunny's birthday bonanza last week.
Was it Bad Bunny's birthday bonanza?
Bad Bunny turned 31.
What a bad bunny.
I just wonder.
Puerto Rican.
Puerto Rico.
Rapper.
Well, I feel like people might have seen it
and if they didn't know,
they would have thought that I was just straight up
looking at pornography
because he is a tasty little snacky-dacky
in his under-dackies.
You know what I mean?
With his snacky-wacky,
snacky-dackies.
Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum.
But I think as people...
Jeremy Allen.
That's who did it last. Jeremy Allen. Remember?y's. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum. But I think as people- Jeremy Allen. That's who did it last.
Jeremy Allen.
Remember?
Arms folded.
Yes, chef.
That was, yeah.
Arms folded with his pants pulled down on the couch.
It was like Mark Warburg, like the first big celebrity to ever do it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, look, if anyone saw me and they thought that all I was doing was just scanning photos
of naked men, I wasn't.
I just had looked, I had glanced upon it.
Right.
I've got this at the moment.
I'm watching a TV show at the gym, 1923, the Yellowstone prequel.
Oh, yeah.
And they're not afraid of boobies.
Oh, okay.
They're not afraid to chuck a rogue set of boobies on the screen.
And so when I, like, pause it.
Oh, yeah.
Go fill up your water bottle.
Yeah.
When somebody's on the treadmill
beside me
we don't pause on the boobies
no no no
that's what I'm saying
I have to be very careful
where I pause it
it's like watching something
on a plane
if you bring your own device
and it's not edited out
it's so bad
I'll just be like
plus 10 plus 10
I'll watch that bit later
I'll watch that privately
write it down
write it down
what was that episode
14 minutes, 22.
Go back to that when I'm at the hotel.
Great.
Got that one.
For a private viewing.
Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley.
Why are you so tired today, Georgia?
Oh, did I say I was tired?
No, you just said you were yawning.
You look terrible.
Maybe it was...
Oh, my God, you look dreadful.
Are you okay?
Are you sick?
No, she doesn't.
Oh, my God.
She's an angel.
She's an angel that walks among us.
We're lucky to be in her presence. Good morning.
Thank god you turned it around because I was about to be like,
man, you guys were so boring in front of that song.
Wow. No, we weren't.
I literally came in screaming
and everyone stood up in applause. Yeah, I know.
My period. That was actually the best news.
Actually, we need to do it again.
Here at ZM,
menstruation is a celebration
It's a menstruation celebration
We used to have one of those blood donut
Blood things that we'd give you
The squeezy thing
I'm happy, I'm relieved
You put it on your desk so everyone's like
Tread lightly
Is that the reason why?
Offer only chocolate, not advice
And take
only nothing.
Take nothing. Leave only footprints.
And leave only footprints. Take a wide
And when I looked back, there was only one set of footprints.
And I said to Jesus, how could you abandon me? And he said,
abandon you, I was carrying you all along.
Oh.
I hated that. I really hated that.
Oh, yeah.
And then in my mind,
because I'm too big for him to carry like a baby, I'm on Jesus'
back. Piggyback.
And he keeps having to go, oh God!
Shut up. Okay, listen.
You're newly married.
We're oldly coupled. You're single
fletch. Dates. Why do you say
it like that? Well, it's sad.
Because it's pathetic at your age.
It's just pathetic, it's sad. Because it's pathetic at your age. It's just
pathetic and it's sad.
The tears are forming in the corner of his eyes.
Because he hates
being single.
Look, I'm lonely in a dictionary
and there's our flesh.
I hate being able to do whatever I want.
He hates having
discretionary income.
He hates having his own space.
This is to no one. He hates being atary income. He hates having his own space. This is to no one.
He hates being
at the behest
of not a soul.
Sounds awful.
Zip zapping around the world.
Okay.
Oh, I hate it so much.
Dates though.
Dates.
You could go on a date
with a new person,
an old person
or a fresh husband.
Cosmopolitan
is a great list
of 45 dates
that don't involve
dinner or drinks. Okay. We don't have time for 45. We've only got a couple of 45 dates that don't involve dinner or drinks.
Okay.
Now, we don't have time for 45.
We've only got a couple of minutes.
So give me a number from one.
Okay, number seven.
You are going to take me horseback riding.
Ooh.
It's very dangerous.
It's dangerous, but I like horseback riding.
No.
Expensive.
Or, okay, here's an alternative.
The ones you put coins in.
Oh, cute.
Oh, we go round.
Or round. There's one of those at the strawberry
ice cream place out by me. Fantastic.
And they just leave all the old
50 cent coins on there so it's free to ride
and you get an ice cream. Okay, perfect.
And they do an amazing focaccia next door.
Oh, they do a lovely focaccia.
Okay, another number between 1 and 45?
9. 9? We could have jumped over this.
My favourite number is 3. 3 is a 9. That's my favourite number too. We'll? Nine. Nine. We could have jumped over this. I know.
My favourite number is three.
Three threes are nine.
That's my favourite number too.
We'll do it.
Take a pottery class.
Have a little ghost moment.
So much harder than it looks on the wheel.
And then do that huggy thing where you just like come in and hug.
Yeah, and you hug the pot.
And then that's your little hug pot.
Nah, that feels expensive. I was like, just go to Kmart and get one of their, you know, a mug from there.
You can get pottery kits from there, actually.
Kmart.
That's not lasting.
That's not a family heirloom, though, is it?
Do you know what I mean?
You're not going to bake that and it's going to last forever.
What do you bake it in your oven?
I guess so, yeah.
I'm not done with myself.
Crafty type ain't me.
Okay, do a, Vaughan wanted 21, do a DIY food tour.
Instead of committing to a full dinner hop from one food truck
or restaurant to another
and try small bites
along the way
yeah just clear
love that
just clear up
$120 per person
and still be hungry
at the end of it
no but you could do it
on restaurant hub
couldn't you
what's restaurant hub
you could get 50% off
so you're just hopping along
oh like that early
what's first table
yeah like first table
oh
does restaurant hub
have categories
I'm very particular
about my type categories.
Oh, okay.
Here's one for you, Courtney.
He's making a sex joke.
Restaurant Hub, he is, yeah.
When you walk into the restaurant, there's a go, da-dong.
You know what I'm talking about.
You know what I'm talking about.
And you drop down the categories and you're like, ethnic food?
I love it.
Da-dong, da-dong.
Okay, 33, because it's our favourite number twice.
Compete in a laser tag battle.
Sweaty though, my foundation's coming off.
No, I always piss myself.
What?
Always?
Every time I play anything where I have to hide or whatever,
I pee myself.
Because you get scared?
I get so scared.
Is that why Laser Zone had to shut down for three hours
after we went for a social event?
Because we were next in line.
Yeah.
And then they put out the yellow sign.
Just stop.
We're poor.
Well, some ideas for a first date there.
Some ideas.
Head to Cosmo.
They always know best.
Because they recommended I use teeth once.
Oh, another podcast in the bag.
The plastic bag.
Are they back?
No, no, still banned.
Okay.
They never left.
No, sorry.
That's where you come in with the line, boy.
Boy, man, if you enjoyed that.
Okay.
Oh, and if you enjoyed it, give us a rating and a review
and be sure to tell all of your friends.
God, I need some sleep.
Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.