ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 20th of February, 2025

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

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Thanks, Bryn. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Thanks Bryn. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Secret Sound, we've had a huge jackpot. I, this... Massive. Yeah, Soundkeeper Brooke has lost her mind. She's just absolutely giving away money at this point. $15,000. Now that's an addition of one grand overnight.

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Also, Happy Birthday to me. Happy Birthday, Vaughn-y. Thanks. Wow. It's my birthday. It is your birthday. Do you know what? Vaughn picked Wow It's my birthday It is your birthday Do you know what

Vaughn picked me up this morning And I forgot I did that thing Where we were just chatting away And then he had to mention his birthday Oh no And then I

Snap I realised There was a click How long did it take It was a good ten minutes Good ten minutes Before I said anything And on his birthday

Four o'clock in the morning, I text, can you pick me up? That's the first thing I say to him on his birthday. Can you pick me up? Not happy birthday. No, nothing. That's all right. Oi, can you pick me up?

Can I have a ride? That's all right. That's all right. You're all right. I even asked him at some point, what are you doing after the show today? As in just like, nothing. Anyway, happy birthday, Vaughn.

Thank you. Top six Today Yesterday What have you got? The New Zealand's Top six every day Armed forces fired

A penguin missile Cute, hey? It's pretty cute The Navy fired A penguin missile I imagine it's got a noise Like Yeah, it goes

Penguin And then it explodes Well, I've got the top six Other not at all Scary sounding missiles Yeah And then explodes. Well, I've got the top six other not at all scary sounding missiles. Because I think missiles are scud. Terrifying. Also soon, there's been a list of the best beaches in the whole world. And a bit of controversy in this list.

We'll discuss soon, but next. Skims have done it again. They've got a new controversial product. Play ZM's Fleshborn and Hayley. Now you may remember when Skims... What are you sniffing? No, I don't know why. I picked up the thing I wipe my glasses with. I just wipe my computer screen. I picked it up and it felt nice. I wanted to feel it fit like against my face.

It's all really weird. I sort of looked over and you were sort of gently sort of rubbing. You're a weird guy. Do you want to feel it on your face? No. I'm a weird guy. Don't pick on him. You're a weird guy. Do you want to feel it on your face? No. I'm a weird guy. Don't peck on him. It's his birthday. Don't you know the birthday rules?

He's so weird. Do you know what I mean? We should make an unofficial list of birthday rules. Okay. Like things you're allowed to do on your birthday. You're allowed to do. You can eat whatever you want. Calories don't count.

You can kill people. Remember distinctly at school, Andrew Leach telling the principal that he could do whatever he wanted on his birthday at school and then proceeded to swear before getting confirmation from the principal and got into massive trouble.

And as he was getting dragged out of the classroom, because it would have been like 89, 90, dragged out of the classroom, he's like, but the rules! But the rules! I remember it so clearly.

That's so great. So you're allowed to be weird on your birthday without me commenting on it. I was sniffing your little cloth. It's so odd. No, I'm rubbing it on my face. Yeah, I know, but it's on your nose. You're a weird guy. Anyway, we'll all remember when Skims,

Kim Kardashian's shapewear underwear brand, did the bras with the nipples, the little nub nipples, so that when you wore a tight t-shirt, it always looked like your nipples were erectus. Permission to be weird on my birthday? Yes, permission granted. There are rules. I like seeing the nipples.

I like seeing the nipples. Do you know whose nipples were always great and everyone wanted them? Jennifer Aniston. I was going to say Rachel from Friends. Rachel from Friends. And Scary Spice in the wannabe video. Great nipples.

Those are the first nipples that I can remember seeing poking through a top and being like, what are these feelings in my pants? I've done photo shoots with Morgan Penn before, sexologist,

friend of the show, host of Sex.Live and she sits there literally pinching them before each sort of round of flash. Does she? To get them going.

It's a good, it's a nice look. We're like a little nipple. We are. So Skims did that, right? Sorry for breathing as I say we do. We do.

It's your birthday. You're allowed to be a pest. And you're allowed to be weird. Because before I've already been forgiven, I asked if you guys thought Olivia Rodrigo, who also is having a birthday today, and happy birthday to my fellow Pisces Aquarius cast. Is that what we're at today?

Olivia Rodrigo has released a perfume. And I said, do you think it smells like Olivia Rodrigo? And everybody turned on me. And I said, it's my birthday. I'm allowed to ask questions. It's because you sat in the corner of the studio and went, do you reckon Olivia Rodrigo's perfume smells like her? It's just the way it came out.

It was a bit weird. It's the way it came out. But it's your birthday. You're allowed to be weird. You're allowed to be. Well, maybe you'll like this as a man who appreciates, from even just a sports physique stance, the bootay. I know this about you, Vaughn.

You love the bootay. Skims. I've got to stop breathing. Stop breathing. Turn his mic off. Skims have just released butt-enhancing padded shorts. Wait, so it's adding to the butt. You're getting an extra two inches

on the tush. And so imagine a control short or a chub rub short. Here's a before after. Fine butt. Great butt. Oh yeah, okay. It's like the Wonderbra for the butt. Yeah, perks it but also it's padded so it genuinely is giving you

a little sort of cheaper PBL. They do these for guys as well. Yeah. A little bit of a front pad. Yeah. Do you ever see a guy's butt and you're like, what a butt? What do you mean? Like you see a butt on a dude and you're just like,

God damn, dude, that is a butt. My friend Johnny's got a great butt. He's got a male mate with a great butt. Great butt. Jared. Our friend Jared. Our friend got a great butt. He's got a male mate with a great butt. Great butt. Jared. Our friend Jared. Our friend Jared. Great butt.

I went to drama school. My friend Tawanda. He's Zimbabwean. Tiny little itty bitty waist and a round thing in your face. Do you know what I mean? He's the definition of itty bitty waist, round thing in your face. It was a shelf. Right.

Really? Yeah. But some people would say these are misleading, these new skims. Yes. Like a wonder bra. Like, yeah. We all got a girl home from the outback. No, we didn't.

No, we didn't. Did we? I reckon unfortunately not. Only one of us in this room. Thank you. Actually, probably none of us in this room. Your wife. True.

Yeah. Yeah, but if you think about it being misleading, so a push-up bra, so a padded bra, so a control underwear in general. Yeah. Yeah. So is makeup, you know. What have guys got that are misleading?

Hats, because no one knows we're bald under here. Gotcha. Too late. We're in bed, guess what? I'm a bald freak. Hey, let me just take off this hat. There's no hair under there. Speaking of skims, you would have seen Nike have teamed up with skims

and they're going to launch activewear in spring. Yeah. And it sent Nike's share price up 6.2% and they worked out that was $6.7 billion. It added $6.7 billion to Nike's value. To be fair, everyone wants to hate Skims because it's Kim Kardashian. It's a great brand.

Yeah. Their marketing is amazing. Their inclusivity, their colour range is amazing Yeah Their inclusivity Their colour range is amazing Their actual stuff The products are amazing She's nailed it She's nailed it Nailed it

She's nailed it so good Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughan and Hayley Forewarning Ladies and gentlemen What you're about to hear Is a load of horse shit Wow

Oh Vaughan I'm sorry But I'm very passionate about this I know And sometimes my passion Comes out as expletives Bugger it all What There's another one There's your second one Please calm I know it's your birthday passion comes out as expletives, bugger it all.

There's another one. There's your second one. Please calm. I know it's your birthday, but please calm down. Shivers. I'm livid. Oh, yeah, shivers. You kids.

There's been a list of beaches released by TripAdvisor. And I'm deleting this app straight off my phone. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Because the top 10 beach, not a single New Zealand beach on there. Around the world. This is the top 10 beaches around the world for 2025. Okay. And there, not a single New Zealand beach on there. Around the world. Do they break it down? The top 10 beaches around the world for 2025. Okay, and there's not a single, wait, did Australia get one? Not in the worldwide one.

Good. Here we go. Myrtos Beach in Greece, 10. Kalingling Beach in Indonesia. I didn't know if you said that right. Kalingking Beach. It is K-E-L-I-N-K-I-N-G. Kalingking Beach in Indonesia. Playa de Muro in Spain. Everyone's always thought about that. It is K-E-L-E-N-K-I-N-G. Kelingking Beach in Indonesia.

Playa de Muro in Spain. Everyone's always thought about that. It's in Mallorca. You don't say the L's, eh? Mallorca. Yeah. Bavaro Beach in the Dominican Republic. Have you been? Oh yeah, I have. Bavaro Beach in Punta Cano. Yeah, Punta Cano's amazing.

Playa Vardero in Cuba. I've been to that. It's like white sand and like blue, the bluest water ever. It's in Cuba. Cuba. Yeah.

It's in Cuba. Playa de Florez in Portugal. Exactly how it's seen. Siesta Beach in Florida in the US. Wasn't expecting that yet.

No. Eagle Beach in Aruba. Any Thai beaches? That's got turtles? Dan's got turtles He's got turtles Does he? I love turtles

I've got a turtles Yeah and thank god They're getting their Plastic straws back Oh my god thank god They were really struggling Underwater to snort their coke With the paper one

Yeah I know Are there any Thailand beaches? Banana Beach In Phuket, Thailand It's in Phuket Yeah but Phuket sucks There's so much better

Beaches than that Phuket's Like if you're in Phuket. Yeah, but Phuket sucks. There's so much better beaches than that. Phuket's, like, if you're in Phuket, get a boat to Phi Phi or any of the islands. Yeah, get the hell out of the islands. Yeah. Yeah. And Alaphinesi Beach in Crete in Greece is the... Oh, that looks beautiful.

Yeah, blah, blah, blah, worldwide. So then maybe in the South Pacific, we've got one. Nope. What? Lulamanu Beach at 10 in Samar, which I will say, chef's kiss. Right, never been. Southeastern side of Samoa.

One of my favorites, like thinking back on it, you're staying in a little phalae on the beach. Absolutely gorgeous. Beautiful. Then there's Cable Beach in Australia, a French Polynesian beach in Moria, Four Mile Beach in Australia, Malula Bar Beach in Australia, Service Paradise Beach in Australia, Turquoise Bay in Australia. Those are great beaches.

Plague de Meatora, Bora Bora in French Polynesia, Bondi at two in Australia, and Manly Beach is number one. Manly. What, are you going to go to a beach that's crammed with- What, they couldn't just chuck in a mount? Crammed with deadheads? They couldn't just chuck in a coromandel- New chums.

Yeah. Or Waipatiki and Hawke's Bay. Waimatama, Hawke's Bay. There's so many beautiful beaches. We didn't even get on the South Pacific once. We've got gorgeous poo-filled beaches up where we are. Oh, yeah, that's a beautiful thing. You go for a swim around Auckland, you know,

any given day there could be a little bit of poo beside you. It's magical. It's a thrill. Yeah. What will happen from the swim? It's gut health. It's gut health. It's gut health. It's immune

building. And it's good for the skin. Surely. I don't know if it is. I don't know if it is, but you're disappointing. That's so rude. Look at beautiful beaches. I reckon Greece has been in their pockets and been dishing out some bribes because they had a couple of beaches on the top 10 and then they've done a 25th

anniversary of TripAdvisor and put global beaches up in Crete Beach. Balos Lagoon won that as well. Have you seen the photo? I've never been, but have you seen it? Because I looked at the photos. It does look beautiful. Balos.

Balos Lagoon. Is it a... Oh, come on now. Yeah, see? It's beautiful. Oh, you're lovely. And you know what it looks like? Safe swimming for the kids.

Yes, not too many big waves. No big waves in there, actually. Safe swimming for the kids. Yes, not too many big waves. No big waves in there, actually. Safe swimming for the kids. Less, because we've got quite a lot of coastal beaches in New Zealand. Oh, dangerous for the cods. And not always, it's not for everyone. For the cods, it's dangerous for the cods. When I take my cods to the beach, I don't like to keep an eye on them.

No, exactly. I like to forget I've got children. Dangerous for the cods and the tourists. But if you took them to Barloss Beach, Andrew, then you've got to have your kids on holiday And that can be a real deal now Oh well that's why I don't have them You know so I can holiday solo

And by the way It's raining right now at Barloss Beach So suck it It's 14 degrees How embarrassing Yeah You suck ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Silly little pole. Silly little pole.

It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Just trying to talk my daughter into doing a practice beep test. What are you, a Chihuly trial? And she said, we're going to do a beep test.

I've never done a beep test before. And I was like, oh my God. Let's do a beep test. Got Tiger Mom over here. Yeah. Set up some cones at home. Only because I know I can win. Oh, right.

Imagine if I get beaten. Alpha male status absolutely taken. I'm happy to one day I'll hand over the title alright silly little pal when grabbing cabinet food what do you use tongs or your fingers I'm big on fingers

if it's like a slice or a pie I'll finger pies aren't tong friendly no because if you go in on the side they're going to crumple

and if you go underneath you'll perforate the lid yes yes yes yes whereas when we go to the sushi place next door we tong that

because they're delicate. And they're all leaning up on each other but if you go to the supermarket and you think I want a little bit of pizza bread Yeah, dude.

You know? I'm fingering the pizza bread and I'm just pulling it out and shoving it in the bag. But I'm pretty careful with my fingers. Oh, I'm not being willy nilly. I'm only touching

the one I'm going to eat. I don't go in with a clammy hand. It's like a game of operation. It is like a game of operation. You don't touch the side or the other slices or the other pies. No, you don't feel all the other ones and be like, that's the one I want. Yeah.

You just eye it and you cleanly pick it up. Quickly, on a game of operation, have you ever played it according to the rules? It's literally been years. I don't even know the rules. But did you ever hook it up to your mains? Like, into the wall? It's literally been years. I don't even know the rules. But did you ever hook it up to your mains? Like, into the wall? Yeah.

That's living. And instead of the nose, you actually just... That makes you feel alive. You hook it up to your brother. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And whoever was doing it had to have the... You run battery leads to the nipples.

I'll tell you what, it adds to operation. Is there water underneath? I can't like it. Operation. Yeah, but you earn money and stuff If you play it to the rules No, really weird I thought it was a sort of loop around Yeah, have a go

And if you ant next person No, you get paid for the operations you do Like a doctor But privatise the health system, which I'm not for Right Silly little poll It's a nicer experience You know what I mean

you're losing touch with a common person again if you can hear me why don't you have a crayfish and relax oh yeah this morning's cray was beautiful

a little breaky cray she was just complaining about a sore ankle and sore toes she's probably got gout when grabbing cabinet food what do you use tongs or fingers

85% of people said tongs and I can't help but feel about 20% of them are lying. Yeah. I feel better. 100%. 15% of people admitted to using fingers. This was a great episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm. Remember when he was getting the biscuits at the hotel, and the guy told him off? Yes.

Because he's greater with his fingers. Because he's greater with his fingers. Yeah. Hayley said, I use tongs because I'm not a feral a-hole. Whoa. Wow. Whoa. Okay. Okay. Hayley said, I use tongs because I'm not a feral a-hole. Whoa. Wow. Whoa. Okay.

Okay. Hayley, that's mean. I'm not a feral a-hole, but you're real mean. You have aggressive nature. Jareem says, fingers are going to cause the next cholera outbreak

in New Zealand. Are you coming at me? I don't have cholera. We did learn a lot about fingers, didn't we, during COVID? Yeah. Yeah.

But I'm not touching anything else. You're only touching what you're eating. Yeah. If it's a pie, you grab it from the front and then the next one slides down. Yeah. No interaction with other ones.

Depends on the state of the tong, said Ashley. If they're visibly manky, I'll use my own hands and make sure I only touch mine. Good call, Ashley. And sometimes if they've got the plastic tongonged or the plastic tong, tong, the ends have got a plastic coating. Plastic pong, tong, tong. Pong, tong, tong, tong.

Let me see your tongs. Do they have a plastic end? Or do they have a steel end? Yeah. The plastic ones feel like they've got a gentler grip. I don't know, that's probably just a mind game. No, but the plastic ones Feel like they've got A gentler grip I don't know That's probably just a mind game

No but the plastic ones Are often narrower So more of a pince Whereas I often find The metal ones are wider They go full wide Because you slide The little hole in them

Whereas why for slices and pies Why don't A lot of places Would be better off Just giving you like a Fish slice A fish slice Yes

Some do But most are just tongs A cake slice Yeah A cake slice Like something. Some do, but most are just tongs. A cake slice. Yeah, a cake slice. Like a nice little, with a pointed tip. Yes. Tyler said, I'd rather use fingies because you don't know who or what's touched the tongs. And while they're saying the tongs make the food you're picking up cleaner, what about what you've just got on your hand?

Yeah, because what if you pick up a slice and there's a bit of mince and cheese on it? Yum. Extra. Freebie. Yum. Mince on a, like, I love slice. Yum. I love mince. Yum. Mince on a, like, I love slice. Yum. I love mince.

Yum. Mince on a slice. Let the mince off the slice. Bonus mince. Okay, bonus mince. Fine. Megan said, I use the tongs

because the tongs are there to be used. Okay. Condescending, we know. Yeah. We just don't want to. We're not babies. Sharon said,

I'll use tongs to manoeuvre the pie so I can grab it with my hand. Oh, yep. Fair. Good. Oh, yeah. Like jiggle it out.

Yeah, yeah. But then you twist it. Then the hand in the bag. Sam says, depends if I see people looking or not. Because if no one's looking, I'll definitely use my hands. Yes. We love your honesty. Luke says, who's got time to muck around with tongs?

It's not like I'm fingering anybody else's. Yeah, fair. Again, that's what we're saying. If you're delicate with a touch. Megan says, don't be feral. I don't need phalange other than mine touching my muff. Mince. I assume she means.

I think so. Okay. Huh. I'm not touching your muffin, though. Yeah, you're only- If it's a muffin, I'm grabbing it by the paper base. What if your finger scrapes her muff? Do you know what I mean?

It would only scrape the paper base of her muff. If we are being honest, if you've ever picked a pie or a slice up, you've sometimes accidentally touched another one, haven't you? I'm very careful. You've scraped it. I'm trying to be careful, but there's been times where I might have brushed. How do we think that they

got in there in the first place? Someone else has fingered them. There's a lot of fingers have gone near them before ours have. Yeah. And then when you're waiting at the service thing and they walk up and they're like, how can I help? You just swiped my pastry.

I was like, oh, you were looking lolly cake off your fingers. Two slices of lolly cake, please, now that you've made me think about it. I can't stop. That is today's silly little pile. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. So Instagram is, and some people may have it already. You may see a-

Oh, Karwin always gets everything early. Oh my God, I literally got millennial font like a month ago. And I was waiting, wasn't I? I was waiting, I was waiting, I was waiting, I was waiting. And remember when Instagram went dark and they had the dark mode? Yep, you didn't get that. You couldn't get rid of it? No, I did get it and I wanted it gone.

Is it ever worth the wait, though, for you? Yes. It's the only font I'm going to use forever more. Poster. That's what I am. That's why I'm a millennial. To be fair, I quite like it, even though I know I'm not supposed to. It speaks to me.

I know it's like being ruthlessly mocked as a millennial font. Also everyone's mocking it but everyone's using it. Yeah because it's nice. It's the nice font. What's my one? It's got a nice aesthetic. What's my font? Ours is poster.

Viewers comic sans sweetie. No. Yeah that's it. Wingdings. Wingdings. Well wingdings is a coded message. Yeah.

So they're trying this now right with a few accounts how they run their tests not everyone will get a dislike button. And I was like, this is terrible. Imagine, like, you already get enough bullying online as it is. Oh, my God, I'm going to come back to that, bullying online, by the way. You'll be able to see who disliked it, right?

No. So this is the thing. Oh, that's the worst part. That anonymous shit flicking is... No no no So this is what I thought it was right You can be able to see dislike And you'll see like

Likes 57, dislikes 38 Or something like that But it's not, it's actually a dislike button That you can use to So I would see it This is on an Instagram post I would have a comment and there would be a dislike button I would hit the dislike on their comment And On an Instagram post I would have a comment and there would be a dislike button.

I would hit the dislike on their comment and it would downvote it so that it moved lower down on my Oh, like on Reddit. Upvotes and downvotes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I agree or I find this not helpful. Yes, but then people won't see that you've disliked it. That comment will just get like shoved to the bottom. So it's not as toxic

as I originally thought which would be like an on display dislike button. Because you know someone puts up a post once and they might be angry and you agree with them or they're sad or they're saying something, they've been let down and you want to like, on Facebook you go, huggy care woman.

Yep. Huggy care. Instagram doesn't have a huggy care. No, you've got to go in and be like, my family's all dead in a tsunami and you just like it. Yeah, that's why that huggy care button's there. So they're saying that they just want to be clear

it's a test. It's not a dislike count. No one will know that you've like tapped the button. Eventually they're going to integrate it to signal a ranking of comments. So you'd leave your good comments at the top. So funny comments. I like that because the funny comments will rise to the a ranking of comments. So you'd leave your good comments at the top. So funny comments, I like that because the funny comments will rise to the top like the cream

of the crop. But I just, if I get negative stuff on my Instagram, which is honestly, it's every comment. It's not. But I just delete them. Yeah. If anyone ever says anything like rude or mean or anything, I delete them. But recently I've been trying to get my YouTube going again

and I forgot the behaviour of each social media platform is different. Do you know what I mean? Like Instagram, kind of friendly for me. TikTok, a bit more global. YouTube, quite mean. Feral. Feral.

Like, think you're funny. And you're like, yeah. I hope so. I thought I was. These 1,200 people thought so. Producer Cohen, you were saying that you've had for quite a while on TikTok a dislike or a thumbs down. Yeah, a thumbs down button.

I think it's supposed to be to help your algorithm. Like, so if something came up about politics that I don't like, downvote it slash dislike it, whatever the thumbs down means, and then they'll stop showing that stuff to me. Oh, yeah. I just sort of picked up on that when you skipped through. Well, usually I just hold down the thing and go, no, not interested.

But you've had this for a while. Some people have only just had it. Yeah, and it's really annoying. I'm trying to learn how to use TikTok. I've been trying. I know. It's all different. I've been trying. I know. It's all different. I've been hitting a lot of not interesteds lately.

You know when your Facebook just puts stuff in your feed and you're like, I don't like this page. Why am I being sued? I go, not interested. Oh my God. Okay, this is really funny. So, no, we'll talk about this later. No, no, I'm going to talk about it now.

You know how I posted you know I posted a video yesterday you know how Jason Momoa fake emailed me and I got scammed by a guy who was like Jason Momoa being like hey how are you well I just got a message from Henry Cavill himself

but it's my birthday I want a message from Henry Cavill I'm sorry Superman be messaging me himself. But it's my birthday. I want the message from Henry Gamble. I'm sorry Superman, be messaging me baby. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. From Vaughn's free trial of Microsoft Word, this

is the top six. The Penguin Anti-Ship Missile was designed by the Norwegians. It's described as a passive, infrared-seeking, short-to-medium-range, anti-ship guided missile designed for naval use.

You can drop them from helicopters or planes, and then they're called a penguin because they go in the air, and then they can drop into the sea and keep going like a penguin. I love penguins. Yeah, my part. I think I'd panic if I saw one. They are documentary filler. I love penguins. Yeah, my part, me. I think I'd panic if I saw one. They are documentary filler.

I always find when the documentary is like 15 minutes short of content, they'll just go visit the penguins because it's easy. Or they'll use some old penguin footage because there's so many penguins it's easy to get good footage. And I feel like their colonies would really stink. So this is in the news because the New Zealand Navy. The New Zealand Navy fired one. And they were like, hey guys, guess what? We found a missile.

Pretty cool, huh? Oh my God. We found a penguin missile. Guys, we've got some pretty cool stuff. It was the first time the New Zealand Navy has fired a penguin missile. A penguin missile. Not very menacing sounding, is it? No, that's the problem because I looked up other menacing sounding missiles around the world.

Minuteman is one that the United States fired and it just sounds like, what's a Minuteman? In a minute, you're done. The Trident 2. You know, like a trident. Russia has one called Satan 2. Now, that's probably the most terrifying missile I've ever heard of. Yeah. I've heard of Scuds. Satan 2 in Now, that's probably the most terrifying missile I've ever heard of. Yeah. We've got some Satan 2 inbound.

Yeah. The Scarab. That's quite a cool name because, you know, the beetle, you think it's going to burrow in, it's going to do some damage. Well, I don't have time for these nasty sounding missiles. I like Penguin and where that's at. So I've got the top six other not scary sounding missiles they should invent. Okay.

Number six, the Boop Missile. Boop. Boop. Boop. Just comes in with a little finger. Okay. Number six. The boop missile. Boop. Boop. Boop. Just comes in with a little finger. Yeah. Boop. If you don't get your ships out of our water, we're going to give you a little boop. Yeah. Move please.

And then it hits right on the nose of the ship. And it's like, oh, it didn't do anything. And all of a sudden the ship just goes. Michael Bay style. Number five on the list of the top six other not scary sounding missiles they should invent. The Snuggle Missile. Yeah.

It'll snuggle you. Wraps you up. Yeah, wraps you up and just snuggles you with a whole lot of explosive force. And then squeezes you too tight. Yeah, and you're like, snuggles to you. Pop, pop. Number four on the list of the top six not scary sounding missiles that they should invent. The Bubble Missile.

Yeah. Bubble. It kind of bubbles through the water. Yeah. It kills you. Sounds real. They're like, sir, we've got something on our... And he's like, give me an audio feed.

And then you hear outside... And he's like, oh, that sounds kind of... Yeah. Number three on the list of the top six other not scary sounding missiles they should invent. The fluffle missile. invent, the Fluffle Missile. Fluffle. Fluffle. I would imagine that's an air to air missile.

Yeah. Yeah. And it's like. Here comes Fluffle. Yeah, and that's what it says. And then just go. Number two on the list of the top six not scary sounding missiles, the Tushy Missile. The Tushy.

It's going to come and give you a little kick in the Tushy. At the back. It comes from behind. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It comes from behind and it's just like, I'm going to kick you in the Tushy Missile. The Tushy. It's going to come and give you a little kick in the Tushy. And the bat comes from behind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It comes from behind and it's just like, I'm going to kick you in the Tushy. And you're like, hee, hee, boom. And number one on the list of the top six not scary sounding missiles they should totally invent after the Penguin Missile, the Squishle Missile. Squishle. I think we'll just call it the Squishile.

The Squishile. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah. And the bad news is it'll squish you. Yeah. To death. It'll squish you. Yeah. To death. It'll squish you. It's an air-to-surface missile.

It'll totally squish all your village if they want you to. That is today's top six. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. Billie Eilish is coming to Australia to play a series of shows. She's there, Vaughn. Gosh, this guy. If you'll excuse me.

Can you just get your facts straight? You've said shoe instead of show and now you've really, really messed up. Yeah, but not coming here. Well, Billie Eilish, Pirate Baird O'Connell is an American singer-songwriter. That's right. Pirate is the middle name.

I love it. She is playing right now in Australia, as I've always said. She's right pirate is the middle name i love it uh she is playing right now in australia as i've always said she's right now in australia because she there were photos of her landing and she was full like the only people wearing masks now are celebrities in airports and and when they go shopping i did and she was like full like yeah hoodie up you wouldn't you she would have walked past you wouldn't have even known it's her. Well, her Hit Me Hard and Soft merch is the big talk of the town because somebody took a photo of the merch stand all set up

and beside what I would describe as an AS colour yellow hooded sweatshirt, yellow, with a zip down the front. $50 in store. Tops. You might as well get five items, you know. Get that group discount. Get that group discount. Now, I'm not poo-pooing it, but it is priced accordingly at AS Colour.

This one's got a zip down the front hood. Thing on the back, the sort of album art. Yep. $220 for an effing hooded sweatshirt. Like, get a grip. It's not Givenchy or anything. It's not so high-end. Which I've also got a problem with because that is just AS Color.

Everything. In fact, AS Color quality hoodies are better than those trashy brands that people spend thousands of dollars on. Let's see, Aga. That's the bad one, eh? Yeah. Let's see how many washes your Givenchy T-shirt can do compared to my sensible choice of a raglan tee from AS Color.

You haven't come to work wearing your Sleep Nightie. I mean, then that's great quality. Your Wallace Cotton Sleep Nightie. Yes. It was a free T-shirt that I got. It's not a Sleep Nightie. It's a sleep brand. It's a slightly longer T-shirt.

They're robe slippers and bedding. I think they were just using their wonderful cotton to make a t-shirt. It's fine. We're not having a dig. It's your birthday. You're allowed to come to work in your pyjamas. When's the last time you purchased merch for your girls, maybe? When you made a merch-us.

Cher concert? That's right. We bought t-shirts at the Wiggles no I didn't because I did I yeah me and Sade had them

you and Sade did but they didn't have any of my size this is the R18 I wanted the Ramones rip off

Wiggles T-shirt where it had the original ones and the style of that famous Ramones T-shirt one of the best nights of our life

I would love merch to remember it by R18 Wiggles concert producer Carwin though so this only counts if you bought it at the concert, right? Because I bought it on a part in T-shirt, but it was... No, at the concert.

It's got to be at the concert. Producer Carwin, you've been to, like, how many Taylor Swift concerts? Yeah, a few. Well, you did two at the Eras tour. Yeah, and then two other shows previously. And you... She buys the vinyls. I do.

She buys the vinyls. She also bought Producer Shannon some merch, I believe, even though Shannon didn't go to the concert. Yeah, someone stopped me in the street recently and said, what show did you go to? And I lied and I just said Melbourne Night 2. Oh, yeah, yeah, girl. You've got to do it.

What imposter. Yeah, but I knew the song that she sang that night. That's fallen valour, isn't it? Stolen valour when someone who's not in the military is wearing a military outfit. Well, it was more embarrassing to say no, so I just said Melbourne Night 2 and she was like, nice. Imagine if she'd been like, Me Too, what was your favourite song?

Me Too, she'd remember that crazy thing that happened. No, you've got to bluff your way through than that. Now, how expensive was Taylor Swift merch? Was it $220 for a hoodie? No, I know that her merch is expensive. I think the most I've spent on merch is probably not actually from a concert. Her cardigans are very expensive. Oh, those cardigans.

No, Carwen gets her cardigans from that guy on the street with a blanket. Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, we want a cardigan. Hard cardigan. Official merchandise cardigan. No, but like at the Erestour. It's also wild that there's a cardigan for merch. Yeah, she has a song.

She's got a song. I know she's got a song. I's got a song. I know she's got a song. I've sort of got it, old man. But at the Erestor, I think I probably spent Just say it. Maybe like $200 in one go.

But that was on multiple things. I did buy like a tumbler cup with a straw that was like $40. Oh, God. What? Okay, Disney on Ice merch. That would be the last thing that I would try. They get me every time.

It's not a gift for the kids. I wanted that light up Maui for sure. Yeah, I got a light up mini ears at Disney on Ice, and I spent $50. And they hurt my head because I've got an adult head, not a kid head. Yeah, Disney merch is wild. But you like, it's like when you're at Disneyland,

you just get so caught up in the moment and you end up spending so much money on merch. And like to remember the moment, you know? Yeah, and all the other kids had light up stuff and I thought I wouldn't stand out. Like, how's Elsa going to see me if I don't have mini ears on? Yeah, see what you just had a headache at Disney on Ice, did you? Yeah, I took it off in the toilet.

Digging into the temples. And a dent in the head now. So I found at billyielish.com the yellow hooded sweatshirt. Yeah, it's 110 US dollars on her website. That's US dollars, but of course everything's a little bit more expensive because you get the emotional purchase at the show. 220 Australian dollars. 80 bucks for a little baby tee as well.

If you're flying over for any of the shows and you were thinking of merch. Just go to AS Color, get your cheap hoodie, then go to the print shop in the mall. Yep. Get them to print Hit Me Hard and Soft. That's cheap. $245 New Zealand dollars. Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? That's insane.

Silly Billy. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. YouTube is officially 20 years old this week. Wild. Wild. Do you remember when YouTube was the Wild West and you could just upload anything to it until somebody else complained and it was taken down? Yes.

It was very unregulated. And it had no advertising or anything, so it doesn't matter. And I'm sure in the early days there was a limit to the length of the videos you could put on there. Well, the very first video that was put up was a 19-second video of one of the guys that started it

just going to the San Diego Zoo. Yeah, I remember it. I've seen it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, like, there's moments, like, we all remember chocolate rain, and then these videos would go viral,

like, double rainbow. Oh, he died, R.I.P. Yeah, he did. He did. That's right. We talked to Taze on that. That was probably God. We talked to the chocolate rain guy.

And we talked to the double rainbow guy. And we talked to the double rainbow guy. It was the Potter pals. Harry Potter, Harry Potter, yeah. There was just so many videos that went like. Lonely Island, the guys from, that were on SNL at the time, was like, I'm on a boat and stuff.

That was a little bit later, but like, yeah. Oh, what was the first one? Chronicles of Narnia. Yeah. That they did, that were on SNL at the time with like, I'm on a boat and stuff. That was a little bit later, but like their, oh, what was the first one? Chronicles of Narnia. Yeah. That they did that music video. That was massive on YouTube.

Natalie Portman rap. Yeah, that's right. That was huge. I love YouTube. I've been getting back into it recently. Apparently it's the future. Is it?

Yeah, it's the past and it's the future. You've been putting up your comedy videos. I have, because it all just sits there on a desktop. I want to make the people laugh. I'm so, I'm one of the people contributing to 500 hours of videos uploaded to YouTube every minute.

Yeah, it is insane. The stats that have come out. So in five minutes, that is the same amount of television that the BBC make in a year, 2,400 hours in just five minutes on YouTube. Yeah. Mr. Beast earned $85 million US in 2024 from videos. How's he going?

Where are we at with him? He did the TV show. Did you guys see that on Amazon Prime? Yeah, the Prime one, yeah. Beast Games. I didn't like it. I wasn't into it, but I know that lots of people were watching it, but it always blew my mind.

He's like, why does he need to go back and make a more traditional television when he's pretty much running his own? Yeah. They must have offered him some crazy amount of money to do that. Oh, 100%.

So YouTube is now worth $455 billion. It's worth 275 times what Google paid for it. It paid $1.65 billion when it bought it in 2006. Wow. Wait, did it? Google bought it in 2006? Yeah. I could have sworn that was way later in the history.

Yeah, same. In the annals of time. Yeah, it was there. And they've made like billions of dollars since. So as of last year, mid last year, there was around about 14.8 billion individual videos on YouTube. Like you could never watch everything there. You'll never get to the end. it's so, I don't know. I always love YouTube. I've always been into YouTube. And then,

especially when I'm trying to like, just de-stress or whatever, and I don't feel like investing my head space into like watching something. I'll just put a little YouTube. Yeah. You follow vloggers, like that was their big thing.

The best thing about YouTube is going on and typing in some weird random problem you've got with a product you think only you ever own. And some guy in 2008 was like hey welcome to my channel today I'm going to teach you how to fix a quad bikes carburetor and you're like my man

literally you can learn whole like life skills on YouTube yeah people do I say it to Aaron all the time we use it for the renovation a lot when you're teaching yourself DIY how do I do this you just YouTube it and then like a hundred thousands of people will teach you how to do it.

But then still mess it up and then have to get a builder in to fix it. Yeah, yeah. It's not a replacement of education. Actual professionals, trained professionals. Somebody just messaged in, shout out Charlie the unicorn. That was their first YouTube experience.

We're going to Candy Mountain, Charlie. Yay. Oh man, what a wild, what a wild space. Happy 20th birthday. That's a real birthday to celebrate. Isn't it? Yeah, on a day like today. 43 is a pretty good birthday to celebrate on a day like today.

Not 20 years, YouTube. Happy birthday. 43. Someone's been around longer. Wow. We should really go all out and celebrate, YouTube. 23 when YouTube started. Yep.

2005. Yep. Oh, my God. Yeah, when YouTube started. Yep. 2005. Yep. Oh my God, yeah, I was 15. Yeah. That's like prime, like,

just getting the internet, just having like, sort of, more regular access to the internet when I was 15. very much unlimited gigabytes. And so you'd watch,

you'd have to be very picky about what YouTube videos you watch and burning through your monthly allowance of gigabytes. Play ZM's Fletch watch and burning through your monthly allowance of gigabytes. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. Michael Doolin is a CEO of Clover HR,

three decades of experience working in human resources. I reckon his ancestry.com would be quite heavily Irish. I think you might be right. I thought you were about to say in three decades of HR, he would have fired a lot of people. He would have. It's so interesting. He would have looked them in the eyes.

They'd burst into tears. Oh, I know. Our lovely friend, Big Hearted James, works in HR. My best friend works in HR. The firing side of things is awful. I'm always up in HR. Yeah. Constantly.

Almost sort of like an honorary member of HR. It's just sometimes your gestures are a bit full on, Vaughn. Oh, come on, sweet tits. You just came up before and you rubbed my shoulder, didn't you? And then I gave you a kiss. Yeah, and a little kiss on the cheek. And you'll get another one if you're not careful. And a tickle.

I'll give you a tickle. Why, when I walk in and you're sitting down in a chair, do you slap your thigh and say, I want you to sit on it? Why do you say that? Because I like the warmth. Oh, God. He's cold. Anyway, so he's shared, because, you know, we all like to be liked.

I mean, me more than anyone we know, to be fair. But we like to be liked in our workplace. You know, it's important. It helps with the day. Fletch likes to be lusted, and then he gets bored. Yeah, like him too much, and he's like, ew. And he's like, no. No, thank you.

You're getting too close. Scram. Well, he's like, ooh. And he's like, no, you're getting too close. Scram. Well, he's given, this Michael Doolin, has given some clear signs that the people you work with genuinely like you. Not just sort of on a respect you in the workplace way. Oh, no, there'll be people going to work right now and this could be maybe confronting for them.

Maybe. So here's some signs that your boss likes you. Okay. Genuinely likes you. They invite you to participate in projects or new assignments. Oh, no, that sounds like you have to do extra work for them. So it's not even like, you know, you've got your baseline of work, but you're going like, oh, hey, Fletch, actually,

we're brainstorming about something. I think you'd be really helpful if you could come in. It's a sign they respect you, they like you, they like having you around, they like your energy, your opinion. They ask for your opinion or invite you to meetings and events. Like, you know,

we've got this thing afterwards, you'd be great to come to this. The gala. Oh, okay, yeah, right. We've got the awards, you'd be great at the gala. No thanks. Do I have to come back in?

Yeah, and you've got to get dressed up and pay for Ubers and stuff. Boy, that's a no from me. I don't want to.? Yeah, and you've got to get dressed up and pay for Ubers and stuff. Boy, that's a no from me. I don't want to. And also, if you're... Can I have the next day off work? No. Oh.

No. I'm not coming. But we'd love to have you around. You're a great energy mate, a great member of the team. Yeah, sweet. Another sign your boss likes you is they use humour. So it's not just a sort of stiff transaction. They use humour and they show sort of relaxed body language around you.

They trust you not to go to HR for their jokes. Yeah, I reckon. That's nice. And they hit you with some real problematic ones. And that's a test. Are you going to take this upstairs? There's trust there. So here's some signs that your colleagues like you.

They talk a lot about physical chemistry. And that's an interesting, that's an alarm bell for me in terms of our physical chemistry as a trio. Because I'm really trying to get physical chemistry going with you guys. What do you mean they talk about? So it's positive, light, comfortable physical chemistry in that we're comfortable physically around each other. There's not a sort of an awkwardness.

If you're standing over my shoulder, like Vaughan came over and gave me a sort of neck massage for a bit, that we're showing that we're physically comfortable with each other. Because the girls in the office the other day were jumping up around each other and then there was a whole lot of hugging and stuff. Now, all good for them apparently, but if I got in there and gave them a hug, problem.

Different energies. Different energy. Do I need to work on my energy with the girls? It's the energy. Also positive body language like when we're together, there's your colleagues like you, smiling, laughing and engaging with what you're saying. Yeah, that's because they're not.

Two thirds of this room had bitchy resting faces and have been asked if they're okay a lot when everything's fine but they just weren't concentrating on smiling. Yeah, you're smiling. Whereas you smile naturally. I smile all the time, yeah. No longer with my eyebrows, but definitely with my mouth.

Yeah. I smile. The other half of the face isn't doing much heavy lifting in here. No, it's almost like your face has been paralyzed above the eyebrows. What's happened? Are you all right? Or has this been an accident? It's literally, I'm just using sunblock.

Just sunblock. And ask questions. We ask questions of each other. How are you? Tell me about your life I listen to a podcast The number one way To get someone to like you

Is to ask them questions Really? The number one Especially about themselves Because people love talking about themselves Before that you reveal That you're a self-obsessed narcissist Definitely ask a few questions

Lure them in with questions Lure them in with questions Pretend you care Yeah Well I would say Other than the physical stuff, because you guys don't like to hug or touch or be near each other, I think we passed the marker of colleagues that truly like each other. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley.

Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. Today we want to ask you, when did a scandal absolutely rock the friend group or a friendship? Because if you've been keeping your eye on the Blake Lively situation with the film, it ends with us and all the

legal going on there. Well, it's still ongoing, isn't it? Yeah, and it's just more information's being revealed and it's all very, I mean, who knows? I don't know whose side to be on. I just don't know. Whose side am I on?

I don't know. I'm not on a side. Oh, are you just... I'm staying out of this. Okay, I'm staying out of this. I've got enough shit to deal with. Yeah. But if you've been a...

Yeah, why? When people get really super involved in celebrity stuff, I'm like, do you not have something to do? I know. Do you have clothes that need washing or a shelf that needs fixing? Or your own personal issues to deal with. Yeah, I know. You're hyper-fixated on that rather than dealing with something in your own life that desperately needs your own attention.

It's almost a form of escapism sometimes. It is, totally. Getting your nose absolutely stuck into someone else's business. Now, you know they call me Hayley Sprouse Scandal Cow. Allow me to pop my skirt up. You've got some they call me Hayley Sprouse Scandal Cow. Allow me to pop my skirt up. That's the scandal outfit. When I put my skirt up

it means I've got some scandals. Because as part of this Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively ongoing legal battle thing everyone was like, where's Taylor Swift in this? Because there was references Blake Lively made about the script edits, if you've been keeping up with it.

Taylor loves it, Taylor loves it, and everyone knows that they were best friends, and that Taylor's been kind of getting involved in the drama. She hasn't, she wasn't seen at the Super Bowl. Wasn't seen at the Super Bowl, they've been to Super Bowl before, Blake wasn't there. Also Taylor didn't go to the Saturday Night Live 50th anniversary thing,

and people are saying it's because Blake was there. And so Taylor's kind of pulled back and going, I actually don't really want to be an insider. So that's what I'm going to, the reference is an insider. So we're going to trust her. An insider close to Taylor Swift said that she just feels like a pawn in this game. You know what I mean? Like she's kind of being used.

And so she's gone back. So she's just like, I'm out of this. And that friendship is a bit like tethered at the moment. An insider says, an insider source claims. And I just think Taylor's probably had enough of this like big scandal. She's like, I don't want to be involved in this drama. Yeah, totally.

So that's what we want to know. Like, was there a scandal within your group that sort of fractured the relationship? Maybe it was just between... Like someone sleeping with someone they shouldn't have? Oh, my God. That always happens. Naughty.

Or someone stealing? Or imagine like you're part of this... I know you were like, is there anything that caused a slight bit of drama, a little bit of something that kicked it off? Fletchers are like, you know when someone sleeps with someone not supposed to? They do.

Like the one thing that's guaranteed to cause drama. They do. But imagine if you were like hanging out. Imagine the three of us were just friends for years, friends for years. And one day I was like, I've been a criminal this whole time. I'd be like,

can I, what kind of criminal? Like counterfeit, like I'll get in on that. I've got a printer. Yeah, counterfeit handbags. You do have a nice printer actually. I've got a nice printer.

I noticed it last time. We could print some money. Very nice printer. Oh my God, I'm bringing you into the business. Now our group's rocked by the scandal. I don't want to go to prison. Because Bourne's moral compass is like,

you guys shouldn't be criminals. Yeah. But, you know, any kind of drama, I mean, can really split a group apart. Yeah, especially if it's a group that have been friends for years. Maybe you go away all the time for weekends and then all of a sudden. And this can happen as well when breakups happen.

You've just like, people have got to pick a side. Here's an example. In our friend group, we have people that like to play swapsies. So, you know, a bit of partner swapping stuff and then it all turned to shite. And the rest of them are there being like, what happened to our friend group? And it's like, well, when we did a swap and I slept with him and then we sort of fell in love

and we kind of kept that going behind the scenes. I told you, Vaughn, that would happen, didn't I? It was the first thing I said and you were like, no, no, no, no, I knew it was going to happen but it was like you went straight to the deep end of the pool. You didn't even test the water in the shallow end. Well, maybe it was someone stole something or yeah, whatever it was.

0800 DALES at M. Call us now. Text through 9696. What was the scandal that absolutely rocked the friend group? Now, we've been talking about the drama between Blake Lively and Taylor Swift. And the vibe on the ground of the Hailey Sprouse scandal cow has gathered is that Taylor Swift has had enough of being used as a pawn in the game between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni. Yeah. So that they're having a bit of a tether.

The scandal's kind of tethered the relationship. So we want to know, what is the scandal that rocked your friend group? And there's a few in here. There's a few. A few juicy ones. Yeah, yeah, very juicy. Anonymous, this was a flatting drama with the friend group.

Yeah, yeah, so classic story. Two mates move in together, but one of the mate's girlfriends is the one who owns the house. Okay. Yeah, it's not the best. It sounds good on paper, doesn't it? No, not really, because there's a hierarchy already, right? There's a power dynamic.

You can't, like, you know, throw something. You can't dance on the couch. No, you can't burn the couch. She owns the couch and she'll yell at you. Yeah. Exactly. And you're actually not far off with that, I've got to be honest.

Oh. Yeah, so the tensions did rise a bit between the friend of our mate and the girlfriend. They didn't like each other so much and it ended up with her kicking him out and the rest of our friend group kind of appealed to our mate, whose girlfriend it was, and said, hey, can't you grow a spine?

And he, out of the blue, like a couple months later, he left our group chat, and we haven't really seen him much since. Oh, no. He's disappeared. Wow, so he chose her and, I mean, she's got a house. Yeah, you know what I mean. What do you losers bring in this situation? If you're going to anchor yourself to something.

How long have you guys been friends for? We've been friends for, oh, seven years and they've been dating for 18 months. Wow, that's got to hurt Anonymous. How old are you, Anonymous? I'm 24, he's 26 and his girlfriend is 32. Okay. How long ago did this happen? Probably

about four or five months ago. I just think when you're a little bit older and own your own house, you might look at it a little bit differently. I do own my own house. Oh, you do? But would you have people flat in it and be cool with, because that's the one thing I was just like,

when you're flatting and it's not your house, all good, but when you own it, you're like, I'm paying so much money for this thing. Oh, I get it. I 100% get it.

But at the same time, I'm like, dude, you were, you were two best buds for ages. Yeah. From high school. Just to walk away.

And also just to be like, leave a group chat and that's how you find out. Yeah. That's wild. That's a bit rubbish. Anonymous, thank you. So many messages in. Please keep another anonymous. Please keep the anonymous.

My friend and I applied for the same job and I may have talked shit about her in the interview and got the job. Oh, and so that, she obviously what found out or they found out? A bit of sabotage. And then that ruined the friend group. Some messages in. We are talking about what blew a friend group apart, really. The scandal that rocked it all.

The Taylor Swift situation. There are so many messages and some of them are really, really long and you can just tell someone's written it with such passion. Yes. Like there's no punctuation and some of them is full caps and it's like long

and it's like, just this unload and you can really feel the attention still in the room. My best friend, one best friend kissed the other best friend's husband, thought it was a joke, but absolutely destroyed our friend group. Don't do that. Why would you kiss other best friend's husband, thought it was a joke, but absolutely destroyed our friend group.

Don't do that. Why would you kiss your best friend's husband? Kiss as in like full on like kiss, kiss, kiss? Or just kiss on the mouth, like I kiss everyone on the mouth. Yeah. Okay. And then it's done.

The damage is done. I can't speak to the kiss, but it may have been a joke that went very, very wrong. One of my friends left our group chat out of the blue one day with no explanation. Next thing, she's unfollowed all of us on socials. It's been six months and we haven't heard from her. No, wait, and they don't know why?

No, they do. It turns out she slept with one of the girls in the group's situationships and didn't want to be called out for it, so just cut us all out rather than having to deal with it like an adult. She just knew what was coming. She would have been expelled from the group anyway. Yeah.

The expulsion of sorts. A shame, shame, shame. Ding, ding, ding, ding the bell. I wonder, I'm just reading this message here. You know, like, when you find out that your friend group has a breakout chat and you're not in it? There's another, there's one here. Like the sub-gaggles.

Yeah, yeah. Move to, yeah, I found out about that. Yeah, we've got the gaggle group. Sub-gaggles. Everybody has their sub-gaggles. Yeah, yeah. Move to, yeah, I found out about that. Yeah, we've got the gaggle group. Sub-gaggles. Yeah, there's sub-gaggles. Move to another city to live with my best friend of 30 years. So that's like me and my best date. Introduce me to all of her friends.

We all got on really, really well. Just the four of us, great group. She went away for a week. The other two girls wanted to include me, so included me in a new group chat without the best friend. Yeah. She came back, was not happy at all that we me in a new group chat without the best friend. She came back, was not happy at all that we had set up

a group chat without her. Basically, it's all turned to shit. She's left the group, blocked all of us, and I've had to move out of our flat that we had together. We don't speak any longer after 30 years. Oh, I'm sorry. You've got to grow up. So she's like, oh, so you've come here and you've stolen my friends. Yeah, that's what she'll feel like.

But now she's cost herself all of her friends by blocking them all. Oh, no, no, no. What did they say in, oh, so you've come here and you've stolen my friends? Yeah, that's what she'll feel like. But now she's cost herself all of her friends. Yeah. By blocking them all. Oh, no, no, no. What did they say in that chat, though? Yeah, what's in the chat? Was there a bit of shit talk in the chat? Was there a bit of?

I worked somewhere where I was the manager. We were all great friends, hung out, partied good times. I ended up kind of having a relationship with one of the group. I thought we were going to run off into the sunset together. His relationship imploded. He lost his job. My wife and I separated. Lots of hate stories spread around town.

Gossip, trying to get people fired at new jobs. It was and continues to be crazy. Got to love Invercargill. Whoa! The smaller the town, eh? Yeah. Scandal capital. That's incredible.

It's those wide streets. They've got so much room for scandal to be trucked in. To be crammed in. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Big day today. Happy birthday, Trevor Noah. Happy birthday, Rihanna. Happy birthday, Cindy Crawford.

Yeah, yeah. Happy birthday, Kurt Cobain. I grew up knowing all of this, and there's been a few added to the Olivia Rodrigo Feb 20 stable since I will say on this list whole bunch of nobodies I assume they're like American athletes maybe

but happy birthday Vaughn Ellen Smith 43 years old today correct happy birthday and we've got you a little something it's a little gift basket here of goodies for you

just some of your favourite some of your favourite things. Including. A new sippy cup. A new sippy cup. Do you know how many people lately have said to me, I think you need a new cup. The story behind this cup was. It's honest.

Listeners, please, can we paint a picture before you describe it? It's a big dupe tumbler and the cover on it is peeling off. The top lid is cracked so it leaks. And I've lost the little bit that keeps that bit closed. Yeah, you've lost all these bits. It's an absolute pigsty.

It was because it was my kids' one and then their grandmother, not my mother, she'd never pay that amount of money for a drink bottle, but Sade's mother bought them. Oh no, mouth to the tap. Exactly. What do you need a cup for? There's glasses in the drawer. Yeah.

There are children in Africa that don't have cups. That's what I would have been told. My parents still have drink bottles we used to take to hockey when we played at high school. They don't throw anything out. They don't throw things out. They don't throw anything out. And that plastic will last forever, even if the little bits of it start going into you and living in your body. And then they got new Stanley

cups, because it's a Stanley Jupe, and I was like, what are you doing with that? That's not getting thrown out. That's getting used, but look at that. Oh an upgrade. We did think about, like we did have the company credit card and we did think about getting a Stanley but we thought a Jupe is what I'm a Jupe guy. He's a Kmart Jupe

guy. He's our Jupe boy. I just don't get paying money for stuff. You can just get a cheap version that's exactly the same. We know. Why would you? But yeah, lots of your favourite things in there.

Nacho sachets. I love my nacho. I love my Mexicano corn chip. Those may have been free. Yeah, they may have been free. They may be bulking up the... Filling out the... Because you found the crate, didn't you?

Yeah, we found the crate. And we needed to put a pad out. A bottle of Jameson's there. I know it's at 700 mils, not my usual one litre, but that's okay. filling out the because you found the crate didn't you and then we found the crate and we sort of it needs a bit of pedo a bottle of Jameson's there I know it's at 700ml it's not my usual one litre but that's okay we're trying to cut back well you know what I mean

it's a cost of living crisis and a Lego we've got a little bit of Lego there I've got this Lego oh do you did you get yours I hate my prison I've already got this one

don't you put your fist up I don't know anything about my don't you be ungrateful in front of your brother. He thought long and hard about that. I've got this one. You ungrateful little swine. I've got this one.

I hate this birthday. Oh, you spoiled your own birthday. Carwen, I believe you've got the receipt because Vaughan, it appears, is packing a dainty. Listen, Shannon and I wandered into the Lego store aimlessly like, what do we get? We saw that. I was like, perfect, whatever.

If he already has it, I'll give him the receipt. The people at Lego were like, what are these two hot young girls doing in this Lego store? We stuck out. I actually really like this. This is the small version of the Lego Land Rover that I built over. Well, you can have a home one, you can have

a work one. I think you just make it here at work and then keep it here. I blame you. I stalked your Instagram and you hadn't main posted it, so you clearly didn't care about the first one that much. I think you just make it here at work and then keep it here. I blame you. I stalked your Instagram and you hadn't main posted it so you clearly didn't care about the first one that much. I got it at Legoland in Speech, please. On your 43rd

birthday. Sort of a nothing, isn't it? It's a weird birthday. Time, ladies and gentlemen, keeps passing by. What is it between the age of 42 and 43? You have slipped into this. No, no, I've always been like this.

Okay. I've always been like this, but I'm over halfway now. But you're expressing it more. To me, I'm over halfway. Like, I'm not going to live to 86. Oh, it's wishful thinking, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, my grandfather never touched a drop of alcohol,

never smoked cigarettes, lived like a clean and healthy lifestyle, had a glass of milk and a white bread sandwich every day. Your dad's messaged me. He said he can be so ungrateful at times. I know. Yeah, I know, Ian. I know. This is basically morning every Christmas.

He's slamming it down. I'm waiting on this one! Unbelievable. Time keeps passing, mate. The most of every day. Oh, wow. Carpe diem. Carpe diem.

Seize the day. Seize the day. And bloody don't waste one. Yep, this is a good birthday speech. Don't waste a day. And get yourself friends that know your whole extensive Lego collection I guess. Yeah. So they don't buy repeats. Right, yeah.

I could paint this one, do it a different colour. I could actually leave the roof off on this one. And make it a convertible Land Rover because that's my dream. We don't care. To be honest, we don't care. Why did you give it to me then? Next on the show. You're only getting me presents to put a photo on Instagram, Mum, to make it look like you're a great Mum.

Well, I know. If it's not on the gram, it doesn't count. Well, you're an absentee, Mum. Oh my God. Well, happy bloody birthday. You know, I try to do one bloody thing. Nope, I won't say anything. Yeah, you try to do one thing. It's 365 days in the year. Well, you know, I birthed you. That was something.

Did you? That was one thing. Did you? Yeah, I'm starting to regret it, I'll be honest. I'm actually starting to regret it. No, I wish I didn't. You destroyed my money. Put him back in.

No wonder Dad left. In you hop. What did you just say to me? He's putting you back in. I'm not going back in there. And what did you say to me? No wonder Dad left. Yeah, no wonder Dad left.

Because he didn't want to raise an absolute witch of a son. No, because his wife was saying, bitch. Oh, my God. Selfish. Let's stop there. I regret the day I met your husband. That's probably quite real for some people. Yeah, she's in a close arm.

Now, there is a three-part docu-series on Netflix. It's part of the American Murder series, right? That they kind of follow these crimes. Yeah, yeah. Real interesting Netflix documentary style breakdowns of high-profile cases. Yeah. And this new one's on the case of Gabby Petito.

I've asked ChatGPT to write me up a brief explanation of the case. I'll give you one. I remember this. Wasn't it those two influencer hippies in a van? You shut up your face. Was that it? Did ChatGPT say, wasn't it those two hippie influencers in a van?

The Gabby Petito case involved the disappearance and death of 22-year-old Gabby Petito in 2021. She'd been travelling across the US with her fiancé, Brian Laundrie. Stupid name. Documenting their road trip on social media or as it was so quaintly put by our workmate. Happy Influences. Gabby just wondering

when they showered. They looked like they just didn't bro. They looked pongy. Gabby went missing in late August and Laundrie returned home without her in early September after extensive media coverage. Her body was found September 19 in Wyoming's Grand Tenton National Park and her death was

ruled a homicide. He became a person of interest but then went missing himself, sparking a nationwide manhunt. His remains were found in October. Death ruled a suicide. The case gained widespread attention, raising awareness of domestic violence and the fact that she was a very attractive young white woman. Yes, and they were the perfect relationship on their YouTube channel.

You know, love, love, love, love. That was the whole thing. Love. Just like showing off their perfect relationship. And in his suicide note, he admitted to the crime of doing that. So this is what the Netflix docuseries is about. But why are we discussing it?

We've got a couple of young white women in the producer's booth. But Carwen in particular, you've followed this story and the doco? Like as it was happening, Georgia from The Day Show and I used to like have daily catch ups being like, cool, did you see this video?

Did you see this? Did we, this is coming out tomorrow. They're searching this place today. Like what are we? But the whole, I mean, the whole world was invested in this. Everyone was talking about it at the time. We were. Yeah, because they were like so

big on social media in a certain like aspect of the social media. So everyone was like, what is going on? We're literally seeing a true crime doco in front of us. In real time. Yeah. Yes. But the thing about this documentary that's made it a little bit controversial

so their parents have come out being like, actually a few people, parents, lawyers, saying, one, there's some inaccuracies here. Right. Which there always is going to be in those. You've got to sort of take a stance and just follow it. Yeah. But also they're using AI, is that right? They're using AI to use Gabby's voice?

Yeah, so they've got like her text and her journal entries and stuff and it's her voice reading those out. Because she was on social media so much, they've got a lot of samples of her. Yes. So this is from the documentary. They put it into AI. AI creates

effectively a fake voice based off the voice samples put in and then has that voice, which is based on her voice, read her own journal entries. I feel bad I'm always on my phone. I should give Brian more attention. He loves me so much, I don't deserve it. But I'm lucky he sticks with me.

No, you're not. Oh, God. That's creepy to listen to. I just think, like all other documentaries, we should have just used an actor. It feels, for me, it's off. She didn't consent to this. She's dead.

Like it feel, I don't like it at all. I just, for me, it's like gross. I thought when the ladies and the producer first mentioned it, I thought they'd use her to like narrate the thing. I was like, that's not, but so it's reading her own words, which is kind of like, okay.

It's providing more context. So when they're talking about specific scenarios, they then refer to her journal about how she was feeling at that time. But it's her reading it. Yeah, like using her voice from, using a dead person's voice. It's just wrong. I mean, I get, I'm so, I don't, but then I'm like, oh, if we've got, you know, dead artists

and we get to hear some new music from them or something. Yeah, but then it's not from them though, is it? Yeah, no, I know. I don't know. For me, it's icky. It would be interesting to know if people then feel more aware of how she was a real person listening to that than a documentary where they use an actor.

Do you know what I mean? Because you can kind of separate yourself from it. Yeah, for sure. I get the sort of thought behind using her. I don't know. I'm just like, she disappeared. Well, she died under horrible circumstances

and now for the sake of, I mean, a docuseries is about learning about the case, but it's also a money-making thing, you know? I don't know. I don't like it. And if this, when I die, people just like use my voice, which you can.

I literally talk for a living. Yeah. Hayley, you died three weeks ago. We're interacting with the AI right now. That's right. Which has not only been pre-programmed with your voice, but also some of your classic quips. Yes.

Yeah. Such as, all my boys, what's up this morning, guys? Yeah, something like that. which has not only been pre-programmed with your voice, but also some of your classic quips. Yes. Yeah. Such as, all my boys, what's up this morning, guys? Yes. Do Arnie, do Arnie. Hey, get in the chopper. Yeah, AI is not there yet. AI didn't have it as good as the real Hayley when she was alive. Yeah, yeah.

R.I.P. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley Fact of the day, day, day, day, day Can I just want to read out We've got a really nice birthday message in Okay We just talked about this It's Vaughan's birthday today The message says do. Can I just want to read out we've got a really nice birthday message in. Okay.

We just talked about this. It's Vaughan's birthday today. The message says, thank you suckers. You guys make me smile and laugh this morning. Happy birthday Fletch. Still happens. Even on your day of dice. Still happens. I want to give you a sub fact. Okay Fletch. Because you're

welcome Vaughan. hit it Fletch I will, thanks Hayley I was going to say a funny joke then but it wasn't that funny I got scared I got real scared I looked at you, your eyes connected and I was like I don't think this is going to be funny if I say that

not funny at all we'll get it enough on the text machine I'll be honest we'll have a joke about that later so the sub fact my friend Damien who by the way patrols Not funny at all. We get it enough on the text machine, I'll be honest. We'll have a joke about that later. So the sub fact, my friend Damien, who, by the way, patrols the roads of the South Island. We talk about World War II and we talk about Henry Cavill being so handsome. He's a really handsome man.

This is Vaughan's Instagram friend. It's my Instagram friend. It's really sweet. And we talk about video games. Lots of World War II chat. Have you ever met in person? Nope. That's how we like it. That's how we like it.

That's how we like it. Did he like SAS Rogue Heroes Season 2? Loved it. Oh, he's a real history buff. He said there was a couple of questions in that. Oh, yeah. I mean, they fluffed it a little bit. Fluffed.

For TV. A little bit of fluffed. He heard us talking about when Maggie got scanned because we were talking about the opening credits. Oh, because it's Simpsons facts. It's Simpsons facts. All this week. So when it originally went

and scanned, it went through, it did have a number of $847.63. Because creator Matt Groening, by the way, it's not said Groening. Oh, I've always been

hitting the E. Groening. Groening. No, it's not Groening. He got sick of people teasing him. I knew a lady with the last name Death.

She's like, it's D-R. I'm like, no, it name Death. She's like, it's D-R. I'm like, no, it's not. It's not. It's Miss Bucky. The thing that pops up, $847.63 was the average monthly cost of raising a child in the US in

1989 when it came out. So that's why Maggie scanned that one. Later it became clearer when they redid it Okay. So that's why Maggie scanned that one. That's a good fact. Later it became clearer when they redid it and you can see they scanned Maggie and then the average child of that when they redid those credits gets added to it. Oh, okay. So it changes. So that's sub fact. Sub fact.

Good sub fact. Great sub fact. You may have wondered why the Simpsons are yellow. Yeah. Why? And Lego. Is it the same reason Lego's yellow? Lego's yellow.

I'm not sure. But then who's the friend who's black? Lenny. Lenny. Or Carl. Lenny or Carl. Lenny. They're always together, so get them confused.

Because when I see the yellow people, I'm always like, the yellow people are Pakeha, and the white, that's the white. Caucasian people. Yes. Yeah. Because Dr. Hibbert, he's also black in the show. Yes. So good call. But Matt Groening said the choice of the yellow for the Simpsons was.

Please say Groening. Matt Groening. You say Groening. You say Groening. I say Groening. Groening. Matt Groening. Groening.

Groening. Said that yellow was chosen to make them stand out and grab attention. If you were flicking through channels, the yellow would be like, ha! And you know, yellow is a really popular colour for like really

favourite cartoon characters. Tweety Bird, Big Bird, who I know isn't cartoon, but you know, he was supposed to be attention grabbing. Spongebob. Yeah. Winnie the Pooh. Pikachu. It is, yeah. Yellow's a real attention grabbing colour

that makes a character almost instantly likeable. And kind of be like the hero. You know like Pikachu's like the most famous Pokemon. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The hero Pokemon. The colour theory behind it is the RGB color model makes yellow and blue

complementary. It's RGB QIT plus. Yeah. You're going to say it. Sorry, you say them all. I'm sorry, but it was 1989. Say them all. There was only three.

There was only three. It was the RGB color model. Makes yellow and blue complementary, which is why yellow stands out against blue background stuff. Yes.

And you do like right, blue screen situations, which they don't do like, right, blue screen situations, which they don't do with cartoons, but it might've been easier to back, put the back, background. Yeah,

totally. And it would still stick out. Maybe we should spray paint you yellow to increase your likability. Yeah, we could do that. Why is my likability down? We did a,

yeah, we did a, a likability rating. Yeah. And where was it at? A whole lot of people in a focus group. Right, you did a Haley Sproul focus group. No, no, it was about everything.

Don't make it about yourself. But it was about the station on a whole. They just said that you're always talking about having a lobster and it's not relatable. And then they did a word cloud. It's great protein. They were like, you know, if you think of the station and likability,

what do you think of? And your name was tiny, tiny. It was like relatable, funny, female, relatable woman. But don't worry because once you're yellow, like Simpsons yellow, I think it's going to be great for the station. So kind of like a wicked situation where she was green

and I have to get up every morning and spray paint myself yellow. Yep. It's really going to take up a lot of my time, but if it makes me more likeable. If it's good enough for the President of the United States, it's good enough. So President of the United States, it's good enough. So yellow is also a warm colour that conveys joy and optimism.

And then they use an example saying, imagine if SpongeBob was any other colour than yellow. Yeah, it wouldn't work. He just wouldn't be as joyful. He's yellow because Sponge is mostly yellow. I had a photo of SpongeBob at Dreamworld. And Patrick. And Patrick Starfish.

And Fletch had his shirt off and he had abs. Wow, that's weird. We should get that photo up. Why are you at Dreamworld? Hang on! No, we printed it. We got that one printed. Yeah, had his shirt off and he had abs. Wow, that's weird. We should get that photo up. Why are you at Dreamworld? Hang on! No, we printed it. We got that one printed. Yeah, we paid for it because I had abs.

Why are you at Dreamworld with your shirt off? Because we were going to the water park. And you had abs. You were just like, might as well. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a goldie, mate. It was hot.

And he had some Pit Viper sunnies on. Yeah. Hot. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Smoking a durry. And that was when he used to work in scaffolding. Yeah. Oh my God, my man. But he's got too much money for a scaffolder and he always carries one of those bum bag pouches Yeah Yeah Smug and a durry And that was when he used to work in scaffolding Yeah

But he's got too much money for a scaffolder And he always carries one of those bum bag pouches Diagonally across his chest And he's always digging it in there And giving people stuff And they give him money I'm gonna find that photo for you I'm really glad we didn't meet then

Because I would have slept with you You know what I mean? Oh you could have tried darling I could have tried You could have tried darling But you would have been chasing your own tail So today's Fact of the day is Matt Groening

Groening. Groening. Originally made the Simpsons yellow so that they would stand out and grab attention for channel flickers. Fact of the day. What? Channel flickers.

Send back the way to describe people watching TV. Channel flickers. What is a channel flicker? You're fucking through the channel. Yeah, yeah, bloody channel flickers. Do you not even get called to leave that What are the channel flickers? You're fucking through the channel. Yeah, you bloody channel flickers. You shouldn't even get called to leave that alone, you channel flicker. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.

Play ZM's Flesh, Fawn and Hayley Okay, I finished season three of Invincible Which is a fantastic show that you two will absolutely hate And I was looking for it It's animated superheroes, you won't enjoy it But it's gory, it's by the guy that made The Walking Dead Anyway, that's worth it I don't care

We only let you say that sentence because it's your birthday And you didn't really let me say it at all Wrap it up And when I finished, I was like I went into Netflix because I pay for all these streaming services. I might as well bounce between them. Me too.

And Apple Cider Vinegar was number one. And I really liked the main actress in it. Yeah, she's great. And I watched the trailer and the accent was spot on. And I was like, I'm going to give this a shot because I do, I am very familiar with the 60 Minutes episode that kind of blew it all up. Tara Bryan interviewed her and there's the clip where she goes

how old are you, Belle? And Belle goes, I have always lived knowing that I would have been a 26 year old. And Tara's just like, it's a simple question. How old? It's based on an incredible true story out of Australia.

The gist of it is a young lady who had a rough upbringing and really wanted to be liked and loved fakes terminal brain cancer that she says she's kind of beaten through the magic of diet and she becomes like a really popular influencer, massive online following, launches an app, and it's just about the lies she has to keep a track of. And the danger of her lies as well. 100%.

She's telling people that she had brain cancer. She did two months of chemo and radiation, but it wasn't for her. So she's just decided to live healthy. Okay. Which is dangerous. And it's the picture of health because she's never had cancer. And it's just, I didn't think I was going to like it. And I'm just watching it and I'm just like, how,

how the hell did this happen? Because there are the fictionalized parts. There's other people in it who are based on other influences in the space at the time who have since died of cancer because they thought they could heal cancer with juice and stuff. And like, that's the real sad side of it. And then you see, she's like manipulating people for well-knowing and faking these things.

Just to make money and get popularity. And the lies, like, if you've ever told a lie... I'm going to watch this. It's really good. It's really good. You'll watch it like I'm watching it, just be like, you've got to be kidding me. Yeah.

Why did we stop this? She meets these people and charms them, and I'm like, I couldn't be charmed by that. I'd see straight through that bullshit straight away. We're too cynical. Far too cynical for it. We're too cynical to believe anything. But it was that thing, it just started as something small

and then it just got too big and too big and I think she just got caught up in it and it just became out of control. Well, it's about the same kind of story as that woman that invented that machine that tested your blood. Elizabeth Holmes. Yeah, Elizabeth Holmes. I haven't watched that one, but that looks amazing too.

Same thing, just got in way too deep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a fraud and a lie. Yeah. Yeah, what do you do? Yeah, yeah. So, the stack of lies, I'm up to the last episode and it's about to come tumbling down and I'm really excited for the end

of it. But I was wondering this morning if we could talk about like either what lie did you have to maintain for a long time? Maybe it started as just like a fib and then you've got to maintain it. Yeah, maybe you're thinking you're about something or you were somewhere once and then someone's like, you've got to meet my friend. They were there too and you're like, oh shit.

Which happens to her throughout the show. Yeah. Like about her cancer treatment and stuff. Yeah. Oh, you must know so-and-so. He's a doctor there. Oh, yes, yes. And it's just like wild, these wild lies. Or when you watched someone

get caught up in their own lie. Yeah, you've uncovered it. Yeah. I love this. Oh, yeah. Fibbers. Little fibs becoming big lies. It makes me feel stressed.

Yeah. At having to live a life like that. Yeah. Okay, well, we want to take your calls. 0800 DARS at M. You can text through 9696.

How big did the lie get? Did you uncover it or did you have to keep it yourself? Yeah, big or small, whatever it was. And if you're the one with the lie

and it got too out of control, we're not going to judge you. No, we just want to hear how deep you got into this lie. Give us a call. Do you know, we're talking about

apple cider vinegar and the stack of lies into this lie. Give us a call. Do you know we're talking about apple cider vinegar and the stack of lies that this Bell Gibson had to stack up. If you haven't watched it, it's on Netflix. It's an amazing watch. I don't think I was going to like it, but I'm fascinated by it. Yeah, everybody's talking about it. And when we started this phone-in topic of tell us a lie that maybe you've busted, we gave that as an option

because we thought not too many people would ring in and tell us the lies that they told. So many people were texting me about lies I've told. And especially those times when you get deep into a lie. There's no way out. You've just got to keep going and keep lying. I was casually dating a guy. Told him my birthday was a month earlier than it was because I was like, I'll get a birthday present from him.

I'm probably not going to be seeing him on my actual birthday. Please tell me they've been together 20 years. Six years. Truth came out three years into the relationship when he saw my license and was like, that's got a different birthday. Oh my God. Oh God.

Imagine that. That's kind of funny. Three years into it, okay, when we first started seeing each other. I did not think we were going to be there for long and I wanted a prezzie. What was his reaction? Can we have some follow up?

I need to know the reaction. Matt, how deep did you get into a lie or someone that you know? Oh, well, this is my sister who is a very good liar and so she actually lied to her boss that I had stolen a company

vehicle. And I only found this out after I started working there. So after I started working there, I was supposed to have a company vehicle. And every time the boss came over from Australia, my sister, who was the manager, said that, oh, Matt's got the company vehicle, and I'd never had it. And I found out that it had actually been repossessed and sold by the courts before I started working there. Wait.

What? Why? Due to what? Had she fumbled something financially that caused Why? Due to what? Had she fumbled something financially that caused the ute to be? So, it had had

$7,500 of unpaid parking tickets on it. Oh! Wait, and you still talk to your sister? Yeah,

yeah, I send her a Christmas gift every year. Oh, right, okay, but that, not really. That's about it.

Oh my God. Okay, so she got deep into a lie there. Oh, right, okay, but that, not really, that's about it. Oh my God, okay, so she got deep into a lie there. Amber, this was your twin that got deep into a lie.

Yes, hi, she is listening, so I apologise and I'm done. Wait a minute, if your twin lied and you were exposing

her lie, you don't need to apologise because she dragged you into this lie by the sound of things. Yeah, the bitch.

Okay, so what lie did she tell? So we were in primary school and she would tell everyone that our nana was Helen Clark. Now, this is the thing about a lie. You've got to do a bit of research because Helen Clark famously never had children. I didn't know anything about Helen Clark.

I was in primary school. Of course not. So, but at the time, was she the Prime Minister? I think so. Yeah, right. It would have just been a name that came about, but people would come to me to, like, corroborate these things, and she would say, like, oh, we wear contacts,

we can read each other's minds, and I'd be like, is that true? And I'd be like, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sure. So she told multiple lies and you had to back it up. Well, she was my sister.

Yeah, and twin sister too. Is she still a, does she still love a whopper? No, but we definitely still wind people up with different twin

white lies. Yeah, change out the boyfriend, that kind of thing. Whoa, what? What did you just say? Hello. Amber, thank you.

So many messages coming in. Funny to wild. Yeah. Like, that's the scale of these messages. Apple Soda Vinegar is a show on Netflix and I think we should all watch it. It's pretty crazy. Have you watched it, Georgia Burt?

I started, but I just... A little bit triggering. I get Jeff Goldblum's in the studio. It was just a bit triggering, I think, because it's like, come on, man.

People legit go through this. Oh, you've been through your own cancer journey? I was thinking about that. But it's weird because I started it and I was like, oh, this is so buzzy

and then I was like, actually... I can see. I hadn't even thought about that. I can see totally because it is someone faking cancer to make money

and like scam people Caitlin Dever is Dever is a movie yeah she's a great actress oh my god she is so fantastic

she's so good in this we have decided we're going to do a spillover episode on our podcast today because we've got so many amazing messages in of the

how big the lie got. How deep you got in. I love, there's a silly one I read before about, I made a joke that I was half Italian to my then boyfriend's parents because they commented on how I cooked a lot of pasta dishes. I thought they knew I was joking,

but a year or so on, it became very clear to me that they really thought I was half Italian. And the boyfriend also thought that I was half Italian. And I just got too embarrassed. And after all this time, I couldn't correct them. 13 years later.

They still think. They still thought I was half Italian. We're not together anymore, but I still see them. And I still believe. Buongiorno. They believe. Buongiorno. Buongiorno.

I'm half Italian. Okay, this wasn't me, but a friend of mine had a work colleague who was a sparky, who came up with just like endless outrageous stuff. We were just talking about these kind of people. We know some of these people. Pathological liars. They just constantly have to lie to impress you. And you can see they're lying.

Oh, yeah, totally. I went to school with a girl who claimed that her father was working underneath the Twin Towers when September 11 happened. Goodness. Everybody was like, he works in a train yard in Hamilton. What was he doing under the twin and it was just like those sorts of like

lines there's like no point to do it these are the ones that this guy can remember he's like these are the five I can remember

and these are wild one he used to be a world class sniper served in Iraq with a very high kill count two

owns a bunch of bitcoin but can't remember the log on details to prove it of course three he skips and goes straight to four. Went from one side of the Rumitaka's to the other. In a few minutes on a motorbike, he holds the world record for it

because they closed the whole road down for an event. Oh, yeah. Okay. Stomped across a secret underground base in Foxton where there's an alien meteor being kept that they believe may be a power source. Oh, he sounds like he needs some help. That's true. I reckon we should go

check that one out, actually. That's what fizzes up Fox and Fizz. Yeah. The alien meteor. It's the secret fizz behind the Fox and Fizz. My love.

I'll go on. I told everyone, another messenger, I told everyone I could tap dance at my new primary school. Then they made me give a demonstration

and then they kept this up for years to kids to prove that I could tap dance. I've never had a tap dancing lesson in my life and I even had to carry the lie on right into high school many years later. Wait, so did they fake it till they made it? Just like moving their feet around. Or do you think this was like an incredible in-joke for the

teachers where they knew this kid was lying and they were like, let's get them up. Tap dancing is incredibly difficult. You can tell whether someone can do it or not. Get them up there and make them sweat in front of everybody. My granddad told my nana he was only 10 years older than her, but then after they got married a few years later, she actually found out he was 27 years old.

Oh! Wow! So she's like 20, he's like, I'm 30. He must have been keeping it tight. He must have been 47. That's wild. He must have been keeping it tight. Or she was like, you look terrible.

You have lived. Yeah. You have lived, my bro. You have lived a life. So many messages. We'll do a spillover podcast, a podcast only special. Find that on iHeartRadio review podcast. Can I just finish on this?

Someone said, oh my God, I was living in Melbourne in 2014 and I bought Belle Gibson's book. It was a real big deal at the time and I thought it was going to change my life. I didn't have cancer. I just wanted an ideal health lifestyle. I hear the book has been resold on Gumtree now because it's become a collector's item. I hope I can find my 2014 first edition. Oh, wow.

Okay. Crazy. And it'll all be like tips for survival. That's so bad. It's not tips for surviving cancer. And she never has directly said, this will cure your cancer. But she said, I took on a healthy lifestyle and it cured my brain cancer. Right, but here's a healthy lifestyle.

Here's a healthy lifestyle. I turned my back on chemo and radio. Traditional medicine. So then she also became a chef. So it's been a whole journey. She does in the show, the whole thing, I'm like, she does seem very good at cooking. Right, okay. She makes a cupcake.

It just looks perfect. Oh, another podcast in the bag. The plastic bag. Are they back? No, no, still banned. Okay. They never left. That's where you come in with the line, Gorn.

Boy, man, if you enjoyed that. Okay. Oh, and if you enjoyed it, give us a rating and a review and be sure to tell All of your friends God I need some sleep Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley