ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 21st February 2024

Episode Date: February 20, 2024

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The ZM Podcast Network. The Flairs Vaughan and Hayley Big Pod. Great things are brewing at McCafe. The perfect start to every day. Hello. Is that working? Is that working? Check, check. I can't hear you. I can hear me, but not you, Hon. I can hear me. Should we do it without him? Check, check. Thank you. Thank you, Bryn. Full desk reset. Full desk. There we go. There it desk. There we go. There it is. There we go.

I got excited, Vaughn. I thought we were going to take over. No. Who changed the desk? Thank you, Bryn. Fletch Vaughn and Hayley Corning. Well, the desk setting wasn't changing my microphone. That's weird.

But then I went out and I went back in and it's done. Here he is. Here we are. There he goes. Now, I've started the day by looking at the top 100 Auckland iconic eats list. These are like the best dishes. Yeah, not restaurant. It's the best places.

It's the best dishes. Far out. We've got to get Eden, guys. We've got to get Eden if we're going to get through these. What's on the affordable menu? There's quite a lot of, it's a mixture. Oh, they do the cheap eats list, don't they? Oh, I love cheap eats.

Yeah, good stuff. Cheap eats. Why have I started my day like looking at like chicken, like fried chicken and stuff? I don't know. Coming up on the show, the top six. You're going to, a bit of nostalgia here. Yeah, that's. Tricked down memory lane.

Yeah, that's right. We're talking about what this country needs back because pseudo-ephedrine. Am I saying that right? Yep My mum attempted to say it yesterday And got halfway through and stopped They banned it in the cold and flu meds Because people were making pee out of it

Yeah Apparently very easy to make pee Well now we just get it all from Jaina Jaina And overseas apparently Yeah so we don't They're not even bothering ramming pharmacies to get it Right

Or stealing it or ordering it in bulk. It's just not worth it. Well, of Timu or something. Yeah, I think just Timu. Timu. Timu Sudo. Timu. Do you want some Timu pee?

It arrives quicker than AliExpress, you know. Yeah, it's so fast. Still a lot of free shipping. But the man who was against crime, who is tough on crime, David Seymour. Very tough on crime. Your kids love him. He's also a smiley guy. He's both people. He tough on crime. Your kids love him. He's a smiley guy. He's both people.

He is also fronting pseudo-ephedrine's return. Yeah, he is. I mean, it is. It's a message there. I tell you, it knocks the bloody cold and flu out of you.

Knocks it on the head. So we'll be able to get it in another year, they reckon. I've got the top six things this country needs back before it needs pseudo-ephedrine. Get to that in the top six soon, but next on the show, there's been

some swabbing done. Oh dear. Some research, and somebody has worked out quite a popular place is grosser than your toilet seat. Oh no. And when you think about it, this place never gets cleaned. I think it gets a vacuum at most.

Oh, I see. I'm going to put you off a certain place next, I think it gets a vacuum at most. Oh, I see. I'm going to put you off a certain place next, I think. Okay. Play. ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. Well, this comes to us, this research comes to us from the UK. So bear that in mind,

because they're a bit mankier. They're a bit mankier than us, right? They can be rough as guts. Look at those teeth. Look at those teeth. You know? You say they're mankier than us? I think our mankiers could easily manki up with the mankiers.

We were. Maybe on average they're a bit more manki. But I mean, our mankiers can manki up there with the mankiers. You reckon? We do have a mank. We've got a strong line of mank in New Zealand. Well, this study swabbed seats in movie theatres and the cup holders. And they have found that cinema seats have, on average,

14 times more bacteria than toilet seats. Is it because toilet seats get cleaned all the time? It doesn't say if they're swabbing public or your home. But again, public still get cleaned probably more than a movie seat, right? Yeah, because how often are they getting the bissel out? Or the spray, how often are they spraying, wiping the cup holders? They wouldn't be, right? You just wipe them down, if anything.

And it's so dark in there, like you're not going to see any stains or whatnot in there. So the research found 1,800 bacteria colonies on an average movie theatre seat. That dwarfs the 135 found on a toilet seat. Okay. By 14 times. Are they bad, though? Because not all bacteria is bad bacteria. You should know that, gut health.

Yeah, you should. Hashtag gut health. It doesn't delve into that, but it did say that the mankiest bit is the cup holder. So the cup holder is where... Because you're fingering it. Yeah, and I guess there's more of the liquid and the food. Stickiness, fermenting foods. Yeah.

Gross. So that surpassed even the seats and the germ count. I'm trying to get back into going to the movies, you know, because it's so easy to watch it at home, you know. But when I went last time to see Aquaman with my father, yeah, it's manky. The cinema's a manky. They're gross.

Okay. They're gross. It does go into the type of bacteria they found. Yeah, they've got the stroplomonopolis, the stuff that's in your yogurt. Stepocopalopilus. Yes. Stepocopalopilus.

Yeah. He was on Sesame Street, wasn't he? Yeah, he was. Yeah, he was. He was that Greek guy. Yeah, the Greek guy. Yeah. Yes. Staphylococcus.

That's bacteria on the human skin. The Greek woolly mammoth. Oh, yeah. Come on. Is it your Greek? It was a little bit Greek, but it turned into a little bit New York Italian. I was going for Australian Greek. Yeah, right.

They also found mould. That's not good. That doesn't surprise me. That's not good at all. But you've got to think about the amount of food. That's a thing, and they're like constant. At the end of the last movie, they're not giving it a deep clean, are they? No.

There's no spray and wiping, I've seen. Should we take a plastic sheet next time we're at the trimmer? Russell, Russell, it'll just be rustling non-stop. Take a little mink blanket. Like a little faux mink. And place it over it. Yeah, just like a $10 Kmart blanket. And then just abandon it. Or just wash it every time.

That feels like the more environmentally friendly option. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. This was research. Back to the day. Sorry, really let us. My trigger.

Yeah, sorry about that. No, I've just sort of been forgetting to breathe today. Now, this was a study from the Smith Heart Institute in California. And they looked at research between 1997 and 2019. So they've covered a lot here. Looking at heart health and the impacts of exercise.

I feel like even if we don't understand it, we get that it's good. Exercise, good heart. Not too hard, but go for it. And one of the findings that came out of this was that women need roundabout half the amount of exercise as men. Now, this is great news for me.

As someone who... Only need half. Phenomenal. Didn't really go to the gym that much last week. And has been once this week. So you could have gone half the time you went last week. No, no, no, no. Is that what you're saying? Half the time you went last week. No, no. Is that what you're saying?

Half the time you guys went. You went every day, so that's seven. Yes. But how long were you there for? Because he does a swim as well. Or a bike ride. I know, but I'm not going to compare with a psychopath.

But then that's also like, who do you compare with? A man of a similar height. It's based on age and amount of time. So you go like, if I'd compare to a 34-year-old man who also exercised for 60 minutes, I would get double the benefits.

So to achieve the health and heart benefits that he would achieve, I only need to do like 30 minutes. And you'd get half the penis too. Is that right? I don't think I have half the penis. I'm not having half a penis. That's not what it's called. Mine's already a half a penis. Good luck.

You've got a quarter penis now. Now you've got a quarter penis. If I could choose a penis to have half off, I'd go Fletcher's. Over yours. The good lord himself would not blame. Do you know what I mean? No one would blame you. I don't think it's got anything to do with it.

Please, don't take half of mine. Wait, so you don't get the man's. I don't get the man. I don't get anything the man has. Right, okay. But I get more healthy heart benefits from exercise than you do. And so in order to achieve the same amount of healthy heart benefits, I need to exercise half as much.

Now, the last thing I need is an excuse to go to the gym less. But I'm saying, usually you hear studies about women need more this and more that, and we're going to do this just in case we're preparing to make a baby. But on this study, we actually need less of things. So this is good for me. This is really good for me. Okay, so gym after the show.

Well, I've got a rash. I've got a rash. I dare not sweat today. I'm rocking a rash. What is that from? Do you know? I don't know. It's just kind of popped up.

If you don't, listener, I have quite a severe rash developing down my neck and chest. Sounds like the job for hydrocortisone. You know what? It really does. Save yourself the doctor's trip because that's all they're going to tell you. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. From the self-driving ZM think tank, this is the top six.

Su-su-sudoephedrine is coming back. Su-sudoephedrine. Pseudoeephedrine is coming back. I have a friend, I've mentioned to before. The Suri Avidrean. It's coming back. I have a friend. I've mentioned her before. Oh, here we go. No, no, no. You guys are my friends.

No, that wasn't. This friend is not replacing. Don't you worry. Your friend is a drug dealer. No, no, no. She works with the police. She's a friend's ex-scientist. You know this.

I've never met this friend, but she's my favorite of your friends. She sounds fascinating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, I thought we were the favorite of her friends. Theoretically. Theoret friends. Theoretically. Current company excluded. Theoretically, Vaughan, your favourite of my friends should be Fletch. And Fletch, your favourite of my friends should be Vaughan.

Oh, no, you're outside friends. Present company excluded. Present company excluded. Right, okay. Anyway, she works as a forensic scientist helping the police with methamphetamine as her main focus. And so she makes it all the time to stay on top of how they're making it. Now, pseudoephedrine, it's so easy. The way that pea makers, cooks, chefs.

Right, pea chefs, that's it. Three-star Michelin pea chefs. Using pseudoephedrine, it's like two ingredients. So she's like, it's good they banned it. So, oh, okay. Because it's so, so, so easy. But what's the argument is that it's all just coming from China and it doesn't matter if we'd just rather have some good cold and flu medications back.

Yeah. That's the argument. I don't know. When you're overseas, though, and you do get a flu, like when I'm in the UK, and you get some pseudo, it bloody knocks it out. It is good. Well, it's methamphetamine. Well, it's coming back.

They reckon it'll be back next year, though. It is good. Well, it's methane. Well, it's coming back. They reckon it'll be back next year, though. It is. But I've got the top six things that I would prioritise this country bringing back before I brought back pseudoephedrine. I like this. I like it when Vaughan gets political. Yeah. Number six on the list.

Tangy fruits. Political. Very political. Very political. Tangy fruits. Big, hard Sk. Very political. It's in my votes. Big, hard Skittles is how I would market those. Remember Skittles, but they're too soft and easy, and you go through a bag of Skittles too quick.

Tangy fruits, it's got a little puddle that's going to take you a long day. Nobody bought them because they're too hard and yum. No, they were delicious. They were yum. They were a movie snack. Yeah, I'm with you. Remember when you were like, Why did they get rid of white Maltesers?

Wah! That's actually what you said. That's actually what I said. And then he pooped in his little pants. And then he pooped

in his pants. Yeah. That's right. Yes, I did. Needed a kiss from his mummy for the boo-boo. White Maltesers were,

and they were yum, but what I'm saying is the white scorched almonds. Oh yeah, those were Remember that? And we talked in White Carto Chocolate still makes those. Yeah, and they do a caramelised chocolate one. I had some scorched almonds. Remember that? White Carto Chocolate still makes those.

And they do a caramelised chocolate one. I had some scorched almonds a couple of days ago. No, but it's not Christmas. And I said to it, what a rogue choice. I just saw them. It's not Christmas. Or a birthday. It's not festive.

Number five on the list of the top six things this country needs to bring back before pseudo-ephedrine. The more. I don't know why we're not putting more time and energy into bringing back some extinct birds. More into the more. Because they've done a woolly mammoth, haven't they? Yeah. Or they're going to? They can. I think they're like, we can. And they're like, do we pull the trigger?

And everyone's just like, I mean what have we got to lose? Yeah, it's a woolly elephant. I mean, we saw Jurassic Park though, didn't we? Yeah, but these are cute. Snuffleupagus, the Greek woolly mammoth on Sesame Street. Do we have more proper moor remains? We do, eh? I think we've got the goods.

We've got the goods. If we had the goods, we could totally do it because they haven't been dead for that long. Well, there's that, I was going to say caramelised, the fossilised one. Caramelised moor. Yeah. I mean, don't write it off.

Yeah. If we can get this breeding programme successful. Like a caramelised moa. Yeah. I mean, don't write it off. Yeah. If we can get this breeding program successful. Like a caramelised onion and moa steak. Yeah. Or a tart. Yeah. A tart. Oh, moa, yeah. Okay.

We all had different... We all had different... I had a sort of a slow-cooked situation with, like, the caramelised onion playing the role of, like, a chimchurri sort of situation. No, I'm going a flaky pastry tart with some sort of light, you know, sort of cuts of more.

Uh-huh, uh-huh. Someone's entering the pie awards with their more. Aren't they? They're caramelising it in a more. No, I was going to say there's a fossilised more out by the Auckland airport.

They could just extract it. That's hot. That's hot and stiring. Oh, and that's concrete. And I'm pretty sure they're even like, that's not how they'd stand anymore. No. There's been advancements.

Heads were a lot lower, weren't they? Yeah, they were. Okay. I think we should bring it back. Number four on the list of the top six things this country needs back before pseudo-effort dream, the Ford Cortina. Oh, okay. I saw a Ford Cortina recently.

I was like, God damn, those were great cars. Yeah. I actually had a dream last night that I bought a vintage car. It was a vintage Porsche. Okay, it's a little bit different to a Ford Cortina. Yeah. I was like, Mark III would be, mwah, how good. Mark II. You can tell the private school girl dreams. Yeah. I was like, Mark III would be, mwah, how good. Mark II.

You can tell the private schoolgirl dreams, eh? Yeah. I had a dream, I bought a vintage Porsche. It felt reachable, for sure, yeah. It felt reachable.

Oh yeah, that's a gorgeous car. The Cortina. Yeah, what mark are you looking at? Five, a bit too square for me. I don't even know

what mark means. Go Mark III, that was my favourite, it was curvy. Number three on the list of the top six things this country needs back before pseudo-ephedrine. How about some full-size goddamn glaciers?

Yeah, that'd be nice. Have you seen how pathetic they are looking? I don't know. I know where to blow. Are they on Ozempic? Because they are shrinking. They are. They're denying it.

They're denying it. They're denying it. They're not saying it. Yeah, yeah. They're just saying they've just been exercising a bit more. I don't know. The glaciers are peddling. Number two on the list of the top six things

this country needs back before pseudo-effort drain. Original recipe grain waves. Yeah. It's disappointing, isn't it? They'll never be the same. And original size, please. Yeah. I don't bother now.

With grain waves? With grain waves, neither. Neither. Have cheese balls changed in any way? Yeah, they have. They've changed those. Everything's changed. Everything is just,

if they can make it cheaper, they will. Yeah. But they didn't, I was straight up about to swear. Wow. They didn't F with the recipe of cheese balls as much as they did grain waves. No.

No, it still feels familiar. It's like a chocolate letter for chip. They're still yum. And number one on the list of the top six things this country needs to bring back before it brings back pseudo-effort drain, dry humping.

You have been advocating for this for some time now. I proposed to my wife that we engage in some dry humping recently and she was like, let's just get to it. I was like, how much better is it going to be

if we have a little dry hump first? And she's like, it's too late, my clothes are already off. I'm like, I'm going to go straight to missionary, but, and I do appreciate it,

it's the best position there is, but I would 100% be down for just some dry humping. The build up of a dry hump? I know. Are you kidding me? Look how rocked up you used to get. Yeah, dude.

Your passion, your grinding, it's the dry up you used to get. Yeah, dude. Your passion, your grinding, it's the dry hop. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. You know, like if you know

if their jeans are zip or button fly, you know everything about that region, you're doing some thorough like good old exploring. Grinding. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. All right, tap your watch. Try to cut me off while I'm on a rant about dry humping. He's getting all randy. I just think we're all missing a track by not passion for hours and dry humping a bit more

in our older age. Get real and grow up. That is today's Top 6. My most commonly used positive phrase is my family's like little mantra, shall we say. Stop being a little bitch. No. Okay, that was my family. Tough enough to be a man.

No, that's not it. I'll give you something to cry about. Yeah, what's in your head? Rocks. Yeah, you dumb rock head. No, ours is what's the worst that could happen. And we use it all the time. What's the worst that can happen?

Like literally, I always think, oh, I'm nervous about this or I'm worried about this. What's the worst that could happen? Is death the worst option? Death is always the worst option. I would have thought being left in a vegetative state,

me personally, that would be further down my list. Well, we've agreed that that'll be death. Yeah, you'll do the right thing. I appreciate you both. I don't think that's what comes to mind when you're, I don't know, needing some motivation for the day. Yeah.

Like say you were going off to school to perform something and you were nervous. That's when I use it. And you say, what's the worst that can happen? A vegetative state. You'll end up in a vegetative state. That is genuinely the worst that can happen. That could happen on the way to school.

Once you get there, you could slip. Someone could have been flapping about with a sewer cover and you stand on it and you fall and you crack your neck. I know, but now you're worried about getting into a vegetative state and not worried about the performance you've got to give and so you've sort of made it easier. You know what I mean? Okay.

True, taking the pressure off the performance. Anyway, that is not on this list of the most hated positive phrases as voted by the people. I can't believe you said before also live, love, love, love, leave, love, lose. It's on there. It's on there. It's just not number one.

Okay. No. How many you got? I've got 14. And I do want to do them all because they'll make you laugh. These are all going to be hideous, aren't they? Number 14, believe in yourself. Not bad.

Okay. Number 13. I'm imagining all of these are block letters on someone's mantelpiece or a frame. I was imagining a loved one was saying it to you as they gave you like a pat on the back. It is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. It's someone saying it to you and you'd be like, oh my God.

I give that one eye roll out of five. Okay. 13, tomorrow's a new day. One and a half eye rolls out of five. Okay. Thirteen, tomorrow's a new day. One and a half eye rolls out of five. Okay. Number twelve, hey, guys, the best is yet to come. Oh, three. Three eye rolls out of five.

Hey, guys. Shut up. That's what you want to say. This one says the best is yet to come. Get ready to snap your retinas. Number eleven, stay strong. Four eye rolls out of five. Number 11, stay strong. Four eye rolls out of five.

We're only at 11. I might have to almost get it. Because I hate to tell you that number 10 is carpe bloody diem. Five eye rolls out of five.

Yeah, you've got to do five out of five. But it's only because it's so cheesy. No, Hon, we've got so far to go and you're already at five. Do you want to bump it

to six out of six? Maybe 10 eye rolls. No, five's fine've got so far to go. You're already at five. Do you want to bump it to six? Out of six. Maybe ten eye rolls. No, five's fine. Five. Most of them are just going to be five eye rolls. Well, I just got to tell you guys today, I know yesterday you had a bit of a grumpy day, but you just got to count your blessings.

Number nine. Count your blessings. Four eye rolls out of five. Okay, we have less eye rolls there. Okay, well, here we go. Number eight. You are enough. Five eye rolls out of five. Okay, well, here we go. Number eight, you are enough. Five eye rolls out of five.

And these are voted by people as the worst positive sayings. The ones that basically make you cringe. Also, when someone's saying you are enough, it's just because you've realised the shortcoming. Like, no one ever says that. When you do well, hey, gold medal, you are enough. Yeah, that's true. You are enough.

I'm not, because that was not a gold, you know. You won't even say it when you're pointing out that they've had a shortcoming. Yeah. Where am I at? Number seven, dream big. Dream big. Four eye rolls out of five. That's less for me, yeah.

Number six, oh, come on. Look on the bright side. Three eye rolls out of five. Look on the bright side. Yeah, that out of five. Look on the bright side. Yeah, that's not as bad. That's not as bad because it is just you'd say it. It's not cheesy. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I got to tell you guys, number five. Today we're going good vibes only. Five eye rolls out of five. Yep. Number four. Hey, you got this. Two eye rolls out of five. I quite like that. You got this. That's a nice, not cheesy. you got this. Oh, two eye rolls out of

five. You got this. That's a nice not cheesy. You got this. Number three. I'm going to ask you guys to live. Five eye rolls out of five. That's the one that ends up six eye rolls out of five. Yeah, that's the one with the block letters people love. Well, shout out

to our friend Big Hearted James. Who has a poster. Who has a poster. Live, laugh, laugh. When I get to an, if you go to an Airbnb or something and you open it up, and they've obviously just like gone down to the warehouse I came out to pick up some art. Yes. There's always a couple of live, laugh, laugh, loves. Yeah. Always. Beach time.

Yep. And it's like a messed up clock. Here's your top two. Number two. It is what it is. It is what it is two It is what it is It is what it is I like that one Two eye rolls out of five, that's not that bad Same

That's what gets you through, it is what it is It is what it is At the end of the day guys, number one At the end of the day, happiness is a choice Five eye rolls out of five Five eye rolls Chemically, it's not I know For some people, it is not Happiness is a choice No Five eye rolls out of five Five eye rolls Shut up Chemically it's not

I know For some people It is not Yeah Someone mentioned in this There was Molly May Hugh Who Ha Haig

Who Is a British influencer And there was another one It's not on this list Which is like Hey we all have the same 24 hours in a day No

And she mentioned it Saying like We're all in the same boat Basically No And someone said, well, some of us have a bloody, you know, a yacht.

Yeah. And some of us have a leaky boat. Yeah. Not the same boat. Not the same boat. Anyway, live, love, laugh. Happiness is a choice, guys. Just get out there.

Good vibes only. It is what it is. It is what it is. Five eye rolls out of five. My boys, do you understand the concept of contouring with makeup? Like, kind of. Kind of.

You draw shapes on your face. Like, you get brown, like a darker, and you go the cheekbone down there, and you do a little bit here and a little bit here. I did a lot of darker bits on my face with makeup once. I wouldn't do it again. I have seen that photo. I wouldn't do it again. I have seen that photo. I wouldn't do it in 2024. Yeah, I've seen it. So if you didn't have

like a good chin or a jaw, you'd contour to make it look like you do. Whereas guys just have to get like a beard or a chin strap. They'll just grow chin straps. They'll just grow

Craig David chin strap. Yeah. So you do it mostly with makeup. Like, say you'd get like a highlight, like a bright thing, and then you'd get a contour stick, like a dark thing, and then you'd hit your high points with the light

and these points with the dark, and then it kind of makes your face look a bit chiselled. Now, Kim Kardashian would be the most famous person for contouring. She nails it. She just does these like deep dark lines and it makes her face look chiselled. She's actually got a big fat moon face. But she's just very good at contouring.

Right. And then there was a trend coming in where people were using fake tan so that it was a little bit more permanent. You get fake tan and you know how you rub it all over your body and you make it all smooth. You get a makeup brush

and you do your contour, let it develop and wash and then you could use that, you know, without putting makeup on. Right, okay. Kind of smart, right? I was like, oh, that's quite cool. Lasts like a week or so. Now people are doing it. It's a huge trend on TikTok, using actual sunblock to contour their faces by like only sunblocking certain areas that you'd keep as your highlights and then not sunblocking the areas that you'd keep as your highlights and then not sunblocking the bits that you'd want to be darker and then going out and tanning.

But would you do the bits you wanted to be darkest, would you do like an 8, an SPF 8, and then you do a bit with a 15 and then you do a bit with a 30 and a 50? It's called sunblock contouring. So you'd put your heaviest SPF on the areas you wanted to keep bright and then less so on the areas you wanted to keep next level down.

No, this is not a good idea. I know. Can I just say that I was looking this up and the amount of clinicians, like beauty, beauticians and skin therapists and dermatologists being like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Yeah, don't do that. SPF the whole face. Yeah. Do the whole face the whole time. Because when, if you did this for a long time, when you start ageing,

you'd have wrinkly bits. You're going to have like, wrinklier bits. Yeah, wrinklier bits on your face. Yeah, totally you are. Big time. And a lot of young people

doing this as well. We've talked about people, like young people obsessed with skincare at the moment. Sunblock's literally the only thing you need to be doing. Give it a scrub. Give it a wipe. Scrubbing some faces. My skincare routine when I was a kid, the same age as what

kids are getting into full on skincare routines. Mine was my mum spitting on a sleeve and wiping off a bit of gunk from the eye and a bit of Marmite from the cheek. Yeah. That was my skincare routine.

Look at me. Marmite for contouring? Hey, now there's an idea. Just putting that out there. As a guy who hid that album on Facebook, I wouldn't. Yeah, I don't know that you want to be smearing Marmite all over your face. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Did you bang your elbow? Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.

Silly little pole. Silly little pole. It is so silly, silly, silly that silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole.

Silly little pole. You can only pick one milk. Which milk is it going to be? Our options, cow, oat, almond and coconut. Now, people are very upset we left off breast. No, they're upset that we left off soy. Oh, sorry. Which I thought gave you titties.

Does it not? Well, that's why I started drinking it in the year 2000. Does that rumour go back that far? My best friend had asthma, and so she drank soy milk. And she developed. And she always had good, she got boobs first. Oh, right. And so instead of just it being a natural development for her,

I assumed it was the soy milk and there was rumours. So I said to my mum, I want soy milk. And I literally only got breasts when I turned 32. Wasn't there the... Part of the rumour I heard was that it became the go-to milk in aid packages to Third World Nations and Third World Nation women were experiencing estrogen boosts and early development. Was it like fly hormones was the rumour or something? There was fly hormones in there? I've googled, there's no evidence that consuming soy will make you grow breasts.

How far would it be working for big dairy though? I'd be like, this soy's hot in our town. Guess the only thing to do is start spreading a rumour about it. Tell the men they'll get a set of titties. Yeah, and their balls will shrink. Keep them on the cow's teats. That'll keep the men off the, the minute you mention their balls shrinking, it'll keep men off everything except steroids.

So what were our options? Cow, oat, almond and coconut. I love oat and coconut. Coconut, it's yum. Almond's trash, eh? Almond's had its time. Yeah, almond's bad. Yeah, it's too watery and mad.

So watery. And soy's yuck as well. Soy's yuck. Coconut's high fat, high delish. Yum, yeah. Coconut's yum. Coconut's good in a coffee. Good in a coffee. And so is oat milk. So is oat because it's thickness. Yeah. Cow fat, high delish. Yum, yeah. Coconut's yum. Coconut's good in a coffee. Good in a coffee.

And so is oat milk. So is oat because it's thickness. Yeah. Cow milk I don't touch. You don't touch the cow milk? Who drinks milk? Me. Weird.

It makes me a little farty. That's why you've got the same size tits as Shannon. As we discovered last week. Yeah, I've got the same chest measurements. And Shannon, it's wild. Yeah, it's because of all these cow hormones you're pumping into your breasts. Yeah, I've got the same chest measurements. It's wild. Yeah, it's because all these cow hormones you're pumping into your breasts. Cow, 73%.

Yep. There we are. Yeah. Fontera have just messaged in, stoked to hear it. Yeah. Thanks for the support, they said. They did.

Oat, 14%. Almond, 8%. And coconut, 5%. Are you kidding me? We're a Pacific Island nation. We need to get the coconut up. Coconut needs to be up. People are scared of the fat content.

Yeah. Don't be scared. No, embrace it. Embrace it. Hayley, not this Hayley, Hayley messaged in saying, cow milk is for baby cows. Oh, okay.

Here we go. Here we go. Hey, Matt, I've got a big inheritance riding on the fact that it's not. So if you could just shut up for 20 more years, that'd be great. Melissa said, you missed soy. Soy is yummy. I tell you what, where's my bell?

She's expelled from the show. I've said this. We can't be expelling people from the show. Melissa Rutland, expelled from the show. I think suspended would be best. It's the expel. Ah, the expelled from the show. Here think suspended would be best. It's the expel. Ah, the expelled. From the show.

Here's Craig. Coconut is the key to the world of curry. That is not something I'm willing to give up. Listen, dude. No one's putting cow's milk in a curry. It wasn't about curry. We're all thinking cup of tea, cup of coffee. Cream in a curry.

But coconut cream in a curry is superior. No, not milk, not cow's cream. Coconut cream in a curry. But you're making a creamy curry, though. Coconut? Yeah, totally, but that's what he's saying. No, but this... I'm saying you can put cream in, and they do.

Oh, yeah, they do. Absolutely, they do. Like, butter chicken is 80% cream, right? Oh, no, I stand corrected. And sugar. And delicious. And butter. And butter. It's a dairy extravaganza. Oh, no. It's stanky. And sugar. And delicious. And butter.

And butter. That's a dairy extravaganza. It's yum. Coconut, and he said, it'll be a tough fight for me between curry and cheese, to be honest, because you can't make a good cheese out of coconut cream. Yep, also true. He said,

but my hungover self is a dirty and efficient fighter, so I think curry would win. Sometimes I love just cream in a coffee. It's so yum. Yeah. Yeah. That's so yum. That's very American, eh? Yeah, it is. Coffee with cream. Jana says

I would truly love to say cow because I'm a dairy farmer's daughter from the Waikato. But she don't love me tum tum. She don't love me tum tum. Not everybody. Anything but cow because I don't want to shit myself, says Callie. There's another person with a delicate tum-tum when it comes to the dairy.

Julie, cow because I only drink milk and tea a few times a week. Would like to try something else to see if I like it, but it's a cosy living cry. Yeah. Of course. It is a cosy living cry. Cheapest milk. You know what? Do you still buy UHT milk?

Sometimes. What's UHT? Because I don't. Because I don't. Long know what? Do you still buy UHT milk? Sometimes. What's UHT? Because I know long life stuff that doesn't need to be refrigerated. Because I only ever drink milk and coffee. And I'll have coffee at home maybe two or three times a week. So I just get long life. No, but you know once you open the seal, it just goes back to the normal life of milk. Nah, it does last a little bit longer.

It lasts ages. Honestly, lasts ages. But what you want is a little tetra pack of blue. I don't know. Why don't you get those little potty... Sometimes I'll just get cream, a bottle of cream, and that lasts a couple of weeks, and that's perfect for coffee.

A couple of weeks? Yeah. You're having some lumpy, creamy coffee. No, it lasts like 10 days. Shake it every time before you use it. Yeah, shake it every time. Give it a shake. Michelle says, all of them are yuck.

Skim milk in my flat white and that would be absolutely it. Skim milk. Just watered down. Alex screams in Kaplop, how is coconut so low? Yeah, coconut's yum. Coconut deserves to be hired. Dan, regular contributor. Okay.

To the show. Oat, I can't afford the time. Oat, because I can't afford the time cow takes up in my day. Got to save my dairy for ice cream. Oh, he's spending a lot of shitting on the toilet. Yeah, gotcha, gotcha. So he's going to risk it for the biscuit or the ice cream. Soy's not for me, and I hate the taste of almond heated up.

He's thought about this. I could live off milk. That's what Hannah says. I could live off milk. That's what Hannes says. I could live off of milk. You probably could. But you can bet yours just all that was available, like on an island. It'd do you well, I reckon, because it's got protein and a bit of an all-rounder.

If you had good high-fat content in there. You can bet your last dime that if I ever develop an intolerance to cow's milk, I will continue to consume it at my current rate and suffer the consequences. She loves milk! Yeah, I know people that take those lactees or those pills. Oh, yes.

Every time they want to eat cheese or dairy. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Well, producer Jared does mention powdered milk wasn't on the list. Oh, that'd be number one. That's the milk umbrella, though, isn't it? Yeah. That was UHT before UHT.

You mix up the milk as required. That's a little puff. 13 past seven. That was fun. We really got passionate about milk there. We love a bit of milk. We didn't have chocolate milk on there, though, did we? Oh, Nana milk nippies. piece. Play it. ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. So you will know that one of the

key kind of markers of girl math is cost per wear. Right? So you say like, oh, I bought this t-shirt, it was $20, but it was so crap that it fell apart. I wore it twice. It's $10 per wear. You don't need to tell Vaughn or I cost per wear.

I'm all about cost per wear. You love cost per wear. We rotate a few t-shirts, a few good t-shirts. I know. Of quality. A few good shorts in chains of quality. Yeah.

And the cosper wear is in the sense. In the sense. Exactly. And that is sensible. Oh, good from him, actually. Yeah, that's how I like to justify some of my

more expensive purchases as well. Is it though? Yeah. Is it? This $500 dress that is quite glittery and very distinct that you wear to one wedding and can never wear again is currently sitting at $500 per wear. Or at once.

This $8 Dolly Parton Walmart t-shirt that I purchased. Oh my God. Was that $8? Yeah, dude. Are we down to anything? I wish I'd bought 100 of these T-shirts. People are always like, I love your Dolly Parton T-shirt. And I'm like, thanks.

I'm planning to wear it again the day after tomorrow. It was so funny that someone sent a picture of a bald dude wearing that T-shirt. It was my friend Johnny. I bought him that T-shirt too. At Foo Fighters. And they were like, oh my God, look, it's Vaughn's doppelganger in the same Dolly Parton T-shirt. You're like, that's my friend. That's my friend Johnny. I bought him a Dolly Parton because we love Dolly Parton oh, my God, look, it's Vaughan's doppelganger in the same Dolly Parton t-shirt. You're like, that's my friend. That's my friend Johnny.

I bought him a Dolly Parton because we love Dolly Parton. Oh, my God. And he wears it all the time too. Yeah, his cost per wear. I mean, already eight dollars. We love a cost per wear. You've worn that how many times? Oh, my gosh.

I'm guessing at least 100. Yeah. Good stuff. I know. So the reason I'm talking about this is because there's these things called NFC tags which are kind of like ear tags

or whatever but they're like little thin things and you can put them in all sorts of things and they like hook up to an app and people are using them

to like put them in their clothes and it will tell your phone basically how often you're wearing that t-shirt and then you can

actually work out the cost per wear. Do you know what I mean? In your head you're sort that t-shirt and then you can actually work out the cost per wear. Do you know what I mean? In your head you're sort of going, but if you actually had this tag in the clothing, then you could legitimately work out your cost per wear. How much are these tags though? I mean, air tags aren't cheap.

15 bucks. Right. No, they're cheap. A what tag? NFC tag. Isn't that what an air tag is anyway? Like a radio? It's just like a data tag, basically.

Right. You can make it do lots of things. Oh, they're so little. Yeah. Near field communication is what it stands for. Yeah, share contact information. You can get a roll on Teemu of $30 for like $6. Yeah, totally.

Okay, that's us. We love Teemu. We're in the NFC business now. What's the cost per use? So could you put these on a person and then find out where they are? Is this bad?

Because you know ear tags, they had to make that thing where it beeps and it tells people that someone's tracking them. Yeah, totally. You can use it for lots of things. Turn up producer Jared's channel. He's saying you can use it. How do you use these for smart homes?

So you can, because they're like a little sticker, you can just chuck it on next to your front door. And then if you have like an Alexa or whatever the other one is, you can scan that little sticker when you arrive home before you walk in and program it to turn all your lights on at home. Or if you check the mail when you drive into the mailbox, you can check one on the mailbox, scan it,

and then your partner will know that you're about to get home. Could you put one in your mailbox and something would happen and then you'd know you had mail? There's probably a way to do it. There's movement in the box. Yeah, there's movement in the box. You could rig something up. Could you put one inside your sandwich every day

and then so you'd know when you ate a sandwich each day? Are you a stomach? You sort of know. Why are you eating it? And then it's like you're about to put a tally of how many sandwiches and how long the sandwich stays in you. Could you eat one a day and find out how quickly you're digesting things? Yeah. The CFC tag looks like communion bread from my days of being a catahoula. Could you eat one a day and find out how quickly you're digesting things? Yeah.

The CFC tag looks like communion bread from my days of being a catahoula. It does, like a little disc. Yeah, a little biscuit disc. Catahoula church, and you'd swallow it, body of Christ, and then it would travel through you. It just seems a little bit ridiculous. Well, this is what people are using it for, is cost per wear, putting it on their clothes.

Which, yeah, I suppose there are some things that you want to justify the cost of. It makes sense. Weird though, this is giving big microchip vibes. Yeah, like it's giving big tracking everything in here. I don't know, it's a bit creepy. Yeah, it is indeed. But it gets you thinking about saving on your clothes spending. Saving on your clothes, why not?

Someone just text messaged and they're not trackers. You have to scan them. That's why they're so cheap. So every time you pick up your t-shirt, you'd be like, boop. Scan. That seems like a pain in the ass. I imagine.

That's flawed. Someone messaged in saying that we're good for people who are like vision impaired. Oh, yeah. So you could go through your wardrobe, find the tags, scan it, and then your phone would tell you what that is. Oh, yeah, that would be cool. Because you don't want to be wearing, you know, orange shirt, yellow shorts.

That wouldn't work for me, though, because it would be like another blue or black T-shirt. Blue. Blue. Blueish green. Blue. Grey. Blue. Blueish green. Blue. Grey blue. Blue. Grey blue. Grey. Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley.

Play ZM. I don't know how I keep doing this but I've stuffed my Instagram algorithm again. Now you will remember the first time I stuffed it, all I got for a good couple of months was good, deep Christian content. Like televangelist level Christian content. Because you were finding those clips funny.

I would send them to you guys. You would share them. And so that was telling the monster algorithm. That I'm loving it and I want more, more, more. Yes. So I had to do a real hard reset. I had to like turn off my eyes on the Christian content and just any time it came up, I'd be like, nope.

Skip it. No sharing, no laughing. No, I'm not laughing at Christianity, by the way. This was like people talking in tongues and doing silly dances. Anyway, so I- So she was laughing at it, basically. Yeah, I was. Ha, ha, ha.

Ha, ha, ha. Yeah. Anyway, so I fixed that. Okay. And then I got a nice roll on. Sometimes even you guys will be like, she's on a good- Yeah. I love it when you hit a rich vein of Instagram reels.

Yeah. You can keep your TikTok. That's the unfiltered trash. Yeah, I know. It's terrible. And then just a couple of days ago, my algorithm switched to meat. Just meat. Every single thing I swiped up on reels, this steak, this steak,

tomahawk steak, skirt steak with chimichurri Chimchurri Chimchurri Chimchimity And I was like I'm not mad at this either Yeah And then for some reason In the last like 48 hours My algorithm has corrected itself

To Irish dancing costumes From Belfast Okay I wondered why you sent me An Irish dancing costume yesterday I'm like I know we're not laughing At the child that's wearing the costume. Are we laughing at the costume?

The costume is outrageous. So if you don't know, because I know a lot of Highland dancers from my experiences in the military tattoos. More of a Scottish. Yeah, and they've got the tartan and the vest and they fling their arms and stuff. And they dance over swords. Yeah.

Irish dancing is the one with their hands by their side and they have the big fake blonde hair and the really garish outfits. Yeah. And they're like sequins and fluoro colours and stuff. For some reason, my whole entire algorithm is little Irish children saying, hello, my name is Siobhan

and I would like to thank Gavin and the team from Air Designs. I'd like to show off my new design. And they strip off this coat and then they do a little 360. Thank you, Gavin and the team. And I don't know why I cannot get it off my fade. And this is just...

What? I'm so excited to reveal my new gabbit. Oh, let's. Whoa! Whoa! She was at the pride parade with that thing. That thing was. That is, okay, this is wild.

And, but, so you like one or you looked at one or someone shared it once and now you're in. It's like you linger on something for a moment on Instagram and it's like, she's an Irish dancer. It's like Extreme Makeover Home Edition. They ask the kid what they like. Horses. And then their room is now a horse.

You're sleeping in the anus of a horse. And your beard goes... Yeah. And gently trots you to sleep. I feel like I feel the pressure sometimes when I'm scrolling. If I do see something that catches my eye and I'm like, what is that? In an obscure way. In an obscure way, out of curiosity. something that catches my eye and I'm like, what is that? In an obscure way.

In an obscure way, out of curiosity. And then you start reading, you're like, oh, no, no, I've gone on, I'm on here too long. It's going to recommend me whatever this is that I don't want to see. Well, mine is Irish dancing costumes made by Governor the Team at Air Designs in Belfast. Well, good luck getting rid of that. Well, good luck to you guys,

because we want to keep sending it to you too, to stuff your algorithms. Here comes another one. Play. ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Well, I'm sad to report there's been a giant train-based cock-up in the Wairarapa. Oh, beautiful Wairarapa.

This story is quite funny. I mean, wait, is this our money though? Yeah, it is. Taxpayers' money. Not so funny. I want a refund. Not so funny now. Chuckles, McGee.

It's still funny though. 16 kilometres of train track near South Featherston and the Wairarapa were laid four millimetres. That's a tiny amount. A little bit. Four millimetres narrower on average, which apparently isn't a problem for the engines. So Thomas, happy as Lowry.

Thomas is fine. It's the big red caboose. It's the cabooses that are getting rattled. Yeah, right. They're getting apparently, there's some vibrato, and it's causing wear and tear, and the top speed needs to be reduced as well. Oh, dear.

All because of four millimetres. Four mils. But you would, okay, look, I mean, I've never laid train tracks in my life. I've thought about it. You would think, though, if that was your job, that you would, like, have some kind of device while you were doing it to check that it was the right width, right? But four millimetres is nothing.

Well, that's, remember, Auckland's trains had to stop recently because it got so hot. And the metal expanded in the heat. Now I'm thinking of four mils is enough to blow it out. It was ridiculous. Metal expands. Goodness me. We're going to have to get onto these hovercrafts, I reckon.

Hovering trains. Hovering trains. Or monorails. Yeah, monorails. I don't know if monorails is the answer. I've not seen one, you know, successfully stand the test of time. No. What, are they going to have to rip it all up?

I don't know. Oh, my God. What an absolute balls up. How much did this cost? I can't say how much. It'll be in the millions. It'll be in the millions. Yeah. So they just got the size of it be in the millions. Millions. Yeah.

So they just got the size of it a little bit wrong. Four mils out. This is a little bit like when you bought that couch in the... I was just about to say that. I was just about to say that. It's not time you just impulse purchased that couch. Yeah, man. For my little unit.

Imagine that couch, though, was 18 kilometres of railway track. Yeah, imagine it cost millions. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine if a couch is 18 kilometres of railway track. Yeah, imagine it cost millions. Yeah. Imagine if a couch is 18 kilometres of railway track. What a stretch. I've got a great imagination. Oh yeah, you'd have a good nap on that. Aaron comes home and you've bought 18 kilometres of railway

track, you're like, I don't know if this is going to fit. And Aaron's like, we've only got a 17 kilometre lounge. It's exactly the same. It's not going to fit. It's exactly the same. It's precisely the same. Precisely the going to fit. It's exactly the same. It's precisely the same. Precisely the same situation. Yeah, yeah. So I was thinking we could take some calls this morning

on when it didn't fit. You know, I know people that bought a new car and it didn't fit in their driveway. It didn't fit in their driveway? Well, the carport at the end. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because it was like a big SUV, and so they could get it in the...

You can't close the door. You can't, yeah, too wide. You do see garages of old houses and they were built for like Maury 1100s. They were tiny little. Like a lot of old homes. The garages used to be tiny. Yeah, for sure. Oh, my God.

You'd spend so much money as well. Do you get a new car or do you get a new garage? Yeah, because can you just take a car back because it didn't fit in the drawer? You leave it out on the street forever. A brand new car. I bet this happens all the time. Or what about a producer car

one? She moved into a house, got a new bed and it didn't fit. Yeah, look, I just bought a new one though, didn't I? Yeah, I know. Did you downgrade the size? No, she got a split. She went split. She was split base.

Oh, that was the base that didn't fit. Yeah, right. The mattress got a little bit of wiggle room with the mattress. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, well, I went to Hintrew Downs at him. Let's take some calls. You can text her as well.

9696. When didn't it fit? When did you buy something that just would not fit where it was intended it fit? When did you buy something that just would not fit where it was intended to go? When did you mess up the sizing? We want to know when you got the sizing wrong. Maybe you bought something and then it didn't fit. Or maybe you built

like 18 kilometres of railway tracks and they were 4 miles out. 4 miles too close. And the train doesn't fit on the tracks. The train does, it's the carriages that rattle and bang. Surely there's got to be renovation stuff in here, because having just bloody done it, you're working to the mil. Yeah.

You bought a toilet, that thing's not going to fit. Mel, when did you get the sizing wrong? Well, I moved into a new house in November, and my queen-size bed base doesn't fit up the stairs to get into the bedroom. Did you pivot? Yeah. Yeah, so I'm currently sleeping on two mattresses on the floor. And Jessie Carlin did the exact same thing.

Can I get in your ear here, Mel, about what I like to call pallet swapper crate bases? Oh, no. You need four, eight, maybe 12 just to be safe swapper crates. To be honest. And then on top of that, you need some pallets that you can find on the side of the road. To be honest, that is all that a bed base is. Yeah. It's just a wooden frame.

But you're not bloody dry hunting on that though, are you? Snap right through it. I've dry hunted on my fish here of Lion Red swapper crates. Now, thank you, Shelley. When did you get the sizing wrong? Well, I went to buy a French door fridge. We bought it. We got all the sizes to fit it around.

Wait, it says it's freezer one side, fridge the other? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, it would have been. It would have been. So we get it home. They brought it around and they tried to fit it and it wouldn't fit.

And then we thought, well, do I get a cupboard? Still didn't fit and look right. And so I was so annoyed because I really wanted this thing. So we took back. And then my husband said, well, we've got all the fine things. Should we just upgrade the TV? And I said, no, I want a fridge. And then he goes, yeah, but hey.

And I said, oh, whatever. So whatever. He took that as, yeah. I come home from work. There's this giant TV in my lounge and I just was like, what?

And he was like, well, you said whatever. Oh, no. I thought you were going to say TV didn't fit. I was like,

you guys need to measure before you buy. So you still didn't get the fridge? No. Oh, okay. Right. I still got my old fridge.

Oh, lame. I was going to say, he misread that whatever. Whatever never means whatever if it comes out of a woman's mouth. No, whatever never means yes. Or fine or okay. Never mean yeah.

Oh, it's up to you. Oh, no, it's not. It's definitely not. I know that language. He's gone with the better to ask for forgiveness. Yeah, then it's not. Also, that doesn't apply. Okay, keep your messages.

Why don't you just do whatever you think is right? Talk about when you got the sizing wrong, when it didn't fit. Like you made these giant train tracks and the cabbages don't fit. The cabbages don't fit either. He's thinking about gut health. He's thinking about fermenting cabbage. Yeah, because you know fermenting cabbage. Making some sauerkraut for his gut health.

For your gut health. Cabbage just rattles engine cabbage. Yeah, because you know firm engine cabbage. Making some sauerkraut for his gut health. Right for your gut health. Right for your gut health. That just rattles around in his brain, doesn't it? Right for your gut health. Samsung double size fridge freezer. Double door fridge freezer. I've got that fridge freezer. Pretty good.

Yeah, I wish I could have a double door. I wish I could have a double door. We don't either. I also think I don't need that much. I would rather have extra fridge space. Same. Pull back a bit on the freezer. Yeah, my parents have the double

and it feels like both of them are too small. Yeah. There's too much mechanism. I need more fridge and I can do with less freezer. You can get fridges with more or less freezer. I've got a freezer in the garage. I've got a chest freezer and a fridge in the garage. I mean, if this is a dick measuring contest,

I'm giving it out. Yeah, you've got the biggest one. I've got a tiny one. I've got a tiny one. He's got a little fridge. So this tells you that this does not reflect real life because we know Fletch is packing a huge wang. Oh, boy. And I'm overcompensating.

I've got an ice maker, but you've got to empty the little water thing. Oh, that's embarrassing. It's not piped in. It's not piped in, yeah. Guys, I don't have an ice maker of any kind. I'm sorry for you both. You've got a plumbed in. It's not piped in, yeah. Guys, I don't have an ice maker of any kind. I'm sorry for you both. You've got a plumbed in one, dude. And did you measure it before the kitchen, Renos?

We built the kitchen around it. Yeah. We were like, that's the fridge we want. But so many people are buying things and not measuring the space. Yeah. I just bought an oven, a stove oven thing, and I measured before I bought it. Those are a pretty uniform size, though.

Also, by the way, I bought that oven, like, online. Like, I didn't go and see it. You've never seen it? Sight unseen oven purchase? I've never... Isn't that weird? But you buy everything else. You didn't click the dials and be like,

eh, that's a good click. No, I didn't. Weird. That's weird, eh? That's weird, my dude. I know. Anyway. So this person bought a Samsung double-door fridge freezer.

It wouldn't even fit in the stairway of the house to get up to the second floor. Kitchen on the second floor is a poor design choice as well if you're building a townhouse. Why would the kitchen be on the second floor? Second floor's bedrooms. It might be three floors and your garage is on the bottom floor. You've got to carry all your groceries up.

So they used a bucket truck and four guys to get the fridge up over through the ranch slider on the second floor and into the kitchen. At the end of the tenancy. Tenancy. We're not taking that bloody fridge with us. Nah, just leave it there. Yeah, the neighbours have the fridge in the garage for the same reason.

Emma, when did you get the sizing wrong? So when we were trying for a second baby and found out we were pregnant, we upgraded my Toyota Corolla to a nice Hyundai Tucson. Oh, okay. Well done. More room for babies. It was nice. I liked that. More room for the baby, more room for two car seats.

And then six weeks later, I found out that it wasn't one baby we were expecting, but two. Oh, no. I mean, congratulations. I mean, size-wise. I'm excited for you, Brindisi. So I had to go and upgrade again and get a Highlander because that three car seats across.

Three? Go to Highlander. I've rented one of those before. The Highlander is huge. And they are ginormous. They're so big. And did it not fit? The Tucson or the Highlanders are huge. And they are ginormous. They're so big. And did it not fit? The Tucson or the Highlander?

No, the Highlander was the solution to the not fitting. Oh, to the not fitting, right. And then you get the Highlander home and it won't fit through the garage door. God damn it. You're like, we're going to have to give one of these kids away and keep the Tucson. Yeah. That's probably the easier option, actually. You were being greedy with all these children. Yeah, you were. You were, actually.

Love it. Congratulations. We're giving you a Sophie's Choice. You're going to get rid of one. We call it the Tucson Choice. Can't split the twins. Emma, thank you. Some more messages in.

For the older one, we've grown to love. My God. This is a real predicament we find ourselves in. Oh, God, I know. See, that's a great reality TV show I'd watch. What? Pick a kid. My God. This is a real predicament we find ourselves in. And it was the first, oh God, I know. See, that's a great reality TV show I'd watch. What? Pick a kid. Sophie's Choice.

Pick a kid. Jesus. I bought my brother-in-law a California king size bed. What? Who's buying their brother-in-law such an extravagant gift? Get their own bed. Couldn't fit in any room in his house. Our mate ended up buying it and runs it in,

rubs it in the brother-in-law's face every day about how amazing they are. How big and how amazing. How nice. Someone said, I work in an electronic store and I can't tell you the amount of times people have come to collect their 55-inch television in the box, thinking it's going to

fit in the back of their Suzuki Swift. They always insist on giving it a try. Because they don't want to pay the delivery fee. Then they have to go find a mate with a ute or a van or just a bigger SUV

that's not a Suzuki Swift. Somebody else said my parents found out they were having their second child not long after their first so they bought a new car and then found out that I was a twin

and you can't fit three car seats in the back. Again, give one of them away. You have to make a choice. Dad got very sad as that was the day he had to buy a people mover. Yeah. Not sexy, are they?

That's when you've had two. That's when doors had slid. Although as a parent whose kids will just fling a door open in a supermarket car park into a, I don't know, trolley, trolley bay. Car, human, dog walking past. There is something nice about a slidey door.

Yeah. And for them to open. I'm going to buy a two-door sports car. Hayley was telling me last time we were having a couple of drinks that she's thinking about buying a silly sports car. I've got a couple of things brewing. I want to have an affair. And I she's thinking about buying a silly sports car. I've got a couple of things brewing. I want to have an affair. And I want to buy a two-door sports car.

What we're looking at, ladies and gentlemen, is a midlife crisis that her fiancé seems to be on board with. He's all on board. And you've got your new lesbian track suit. Yeah, I bought a lesbian track suit. I want to have an affair with a woman and buy a sports car. I'm excited. These are the things

that are open to me not having kids. after eight o'clock on the show this morning. Now, yesterday, I was getting some messages because it was my birthday.

My wife didn't do me a social media post though. Oh yeah, I saw that. Is that grounds for divorce? Do I go and see a lawyer today? I think that's a category. It's a drop down. Oh yeah I saw that. Is that grounds for divorce? Do I go and see a lawyer today? I think that's a category. It's a drop down. I say

hello lawyer. My wife didn't do one of those over the top social media posts on my birthday telling everybody how wonderful I am as a husband and father. And they say sir she will get nothing. I think it's irreconcilable differences. Irreconcilable. Irreconcilable.

Why have you made it a weird word to say? Irreconcilable. Irreconcilable. Irreconcilable? Irreconcilable. Irreconcilable. Why have you made it a weird word to say? Irreconcilable. Irreconcilable. You hit the reckon. Irreconcilable. I reckon a consolable. Yeah. I reckon it's consolable.

Yeah. I'm trying to find the message that kicked off, though. I was getting messages from people yesterday. Now, a friend of the show, Zach, said to me, Saucy boy, sauc to me, Happy birthday, darling. Let me know if you would like any special birthday nudes. Because he will every

now and then just send a full frontal nude. Unsolicited. Only he can get away with this. Only he can get away with it. Now, at that same time that he sent that, I had been messaging my friend Jake, who was coming down to help me out with a little bit of a project, and he said, I'll be 10 minutes.

Jake said, I'll be 10 minutes. And I'd left that conversation. So Zach sent me that, and then Jake said, I'll be there in 10 minutes, and I was ready to leave that conversation there because I was about to see him in 10 minutes. And I replied to, I thought, Zach, saying, thank you, my darling. To which Jake's like, what?

Not the language you guys use. No, definitely not. Definitely not. And he was like, huh? And I'm like, what? And then, so I don't remember switching back to his message. This happens to me all the time when you're messaging and other messages come through, it switches to them. It switches to the his message. This happens to me all the time when you're messaging and other messages come through. It switches to them.

It switches to the new message. And you're typing and you don't realise and then you can be saying the wrong things to the wrong people. Yes. Yeah, I did it the other day. But it was not a bad one. It was just a, oh whoops, wrong chat. Yeah. Well this could, imagine if you were texting someone and then

in another text you're bitching about them. You're ripping in. And then they message you and you end up seeing it to them. There is nothing worse. How does it happen? Because I don't know. Because I didn't see it happen, so I don't know how it happened. Because you were typing at the time, right, to who you thought was someone. Zach.

And then it switched the whole chat message to Jake. It's a bug. It's got to be. You didn't actually get your bloody thumbs in there and accidentally tap it when the notification for the other chat came in? Maybe I was looking at that one. You know, like tap, tap. Totally. Very much could have happened.

But then it got worse. But that chat typing window is only in that chat window, right? Like when it switches, it gives you a blank one, right? Or it should. I don't know. Because this is happening to me and I was just like I must have just pressed the wrong thing. We've got to be vigilant. For the next wee while, especially us three.

Good lord, our chats. We've got to be on our toes. Look at it. What have I said? Who am I sending it to? I do that most of the time if it's not just a quick reply like thank you my darling was just like a flick away quick reply to tell him I didn sending it to? I do that most of the time if it's not just a quick reply like thank you my darling was just like a flick away quick reply to tell him I didn't need to see his penis and

again and yeah but it went to Jake but then it got worse because later on the day after the thing had been done I said hey man thanks for today if you need anything more let me know I said rad appreciate it and I wrote muchly

but it corrected to my boy appreciate it my boy you're really flirting with Jake yesterday there was a lot of there was a lot of flirting that last one's on you

to be honest that's not a bug appreciate it my boy my boy but yeah it happens be vigilant

yeah some of this is just makes me nervous. I was just looking at a message. It just happened. Okay. Because I was looking at that message to see my boy, and it's opened up another message.

And I could have almost replied to that. Shoot, we've got to be careful. We have got to be careful. Everybody is in a high state of vigilance until this bug has worked out. We're at the orange amber level of Facebook messaging at the moment. Stay alert.

I don't want to have to raise it to red, but I'll do it. I'll do the lockdown. I'll kick them in the lockdown and you can all tune in for a 1pm press conference on how we're dealing with this possible messenger madness.

Oh God. Tomorrow, Sydney. Play. ZDM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Tomorrow, Sydney. Sydney. Taylor Swift is in Sydney. Is she doing a Thursday night? I think so. Yeah, she's doing numerous nights in SIDS.

She was papped out at a restaurant last night. Yeah, man, she was papped out. What restaurant? Macca's. Show sponsor. She'd be a Filet restaurant? Macca's. Show sponsor. She'd be a Filet-O-Fish main burger. She'd be a Filet-O-Fish. One hundred.

It's a secondary burger. It's your backup burger. She's Filet-O-Fish. I'm going to say she's got a Sprite. I think she doesn't get a Coke. Sprite zero. Sprite zero. Yeah, Sprite zero. And I reckon she'd chuck a nuggy in.

I reckon she'd chuck in three nuggy nuggies. The girls burn in energy like bloody gas at the moment. But producer Carwen is back in Studes with us. Hello, hello, hello. And you were there, man. You were there. I know. I, yeah.

Is it everything you hoped it would be? Yeah, absolutely. So many people, because I was like, there's so much hype around it all. And I was like, surely it can't live up. Everyone I know who's been posting about it who went is like, it was genuinely the best night of my life. Truly, truly. And I knew sort of the set list, right?

I've watched the movie, so I kind of knew what to expect. But even knowing that, there were still things that I was like, oh my gosh, I've never noticed. She does that before. She also does a bit of surprises, eh? She was like changing a few things. Yeah. So she does two surprise songs every night. And oh my gosh, we won.

Like Melbourne won. We got some of the best songs. She also did a three-way mashup of a song. So three of her songs put together, one of which- It's clever. The Other Side of the Door. She doesn't sing that like ever and it's such a deep cut song and my friend

and I were screaming so much along to it that the woman in front of us turned around and just filmed us. You're ruining this very expensive concert experience. Well you know what, her daughter was standing on her chair in front of us and ruined it for us. I would push her off.

That wasn't the only person that you sort of annoyed during the concert, either, Carwen. Yeah, so like, Taylor always has a VIP tent, right? And often her boyfriend's there, her dad's there, celebs are there. There's a few celebs there. One of my favourite Australian artists, G Flip, was there. G Flip. I got to meet G Flip. G Flip.

Do you guys know G Flip? Nope. They're a singer-drummer, and they're so hot. I know G Shock. Hell of a watchmaker. One hell of a watch. Recently did a very viral cover of Cruel Summer for another radio session, and it's amazing.

Anyways, I saw them. G Flip would like to see me in my new lesbian jumpsuit that I just bought. That's what I think. Is G Flip would like to see me in my new lesbian jumpsuit that I just bought. That's what I think. Is G Flip a lesbian? The non-binary queer marrying a woman. Married a woman? Yeah. Oh.

Anyway, so I saw them and there was like a bit of a line to say hi. And then security shushed everyone away. And I was like, damn, I'm not going to meet them. Anyways, spoiler alert, I did end up meeting them. Told them to come to New Zealand whatever that's not all you said in the chat to me about meeting G Flip but I won't go into

that chat anyways and then I see Scott Swift Taylor Swift's dad in the VIP tent and I'm like oh my god and he's talking to two other girls giving their exchanging friendship bracelets because that's a big thing of the concert.

He's also giving them guitar picks because he often gives away Taylor's guitar picks to people. So I'm like, oh, I'm going to go say hi. Obviously he's talking to these other girls. And the two girls walk away. I'm like, hi. He turns away. I'm like, okay, it's fine.

I'll just politely ask security, be like, hi. So I was like, hi, am I able to say hi to Scott? Just real quick, I have a bracelet for him. They were like, no. And I was like, oh, okay. They were like,

he's trying to watch the show. He was just engaging with people. So he's seen the show a thousand times. I know, exactly. He's seen the show. And they just gave me the death stares, these two security guards. I mean, you are a very threatening presence.

Yeah, I did look really scary with gold glitter eyeshadow all over me. Yeah, of course. Yeah, and they just like, you know how they cross their arms and they make themselves look puffy. Oh, I hate puffy security guards. Yeah, and they're like, you need to leave now.

Oh, Han. Didn't spoil your night though? No, and then I they were like, you need to leave now. Oh, hon. Didn't spoil your night, though? No, and then I turned around and he was talking to other fans. So I think it was just me. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he's taken an umbrage with Tarwin. Out of 96,000 people there. What was that like?

Was that just insane? Insane. I didn't end up using the ear pluggy things that I'd bought, but it was so cool to hear it all echoing back, people singing, and I loved that. Yeah, it looked like you had an amazing time, honestly. Yeah, I did. And now I'm here.

Oh! Yes, we're continuing the amazing time. Yeah, exactly. Oh, right, with your other favourite C-Libs. That's what you mean. Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just the same.

Do you want some of our goods? Like some of our used goods that we use? She has got her earplugs in today though, which is a bit insulting. Yeah, it is actually insulting. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day is a bit, well, yesterday, Hayley, it was the youngest ever billionaire. I know, I was listening.

It was the first billionaire. Oh, you were in your car, you were listening. I was listening to the show. Honestly, as a listener, it was such fun. Great. Thanks for joining us. Because you got to Skype off early. I did get to Skype off early, and I was listening,

and I was texting into the show, and it was bloody fun. It was really fun. Well, today I've got... I'll say you almost don't need the woman. You almost don't need the third. Great banter between just the lads. Right, right. Just trying to talk yourself out of a job. I'd just like to knock off again early.

I might pop away, actually. Well, we haven't talked about docking your pay yet. No, no. So maybe don't. So today's fact of the day is about the oldest person to ever become a billionaire. Oh, okay. The oldest person to ever become a billionaire is Changyong Chung. Okay. He is ayong Chung. Okay.

He is a shipping magnate. Oh. So he'll just be walking along and things will stick to him. Yeah, ships. It's not a magnate. He'll draw them out of the ocean as long as they're metal. He's just in the supermarket and tins of soup will stick to him. Yeah.

If he walks into a cutlery store, watch out. God, you don't want the tip. Yeah. He walks past Mr. Minute. Oh, Jesus. Very, very dangerous. Sorry about this. I'm a shipping magnate.

I apologise. This happens all the time. Very, you silly boy. He is silly. So in World War II when Japan invaded China. That. He is silly. So in World War II, when Japan invaded China, that's right, he's got a World War II reference in there because he's back at World War II. He slipped that by us.

His family fled to Singapore. And then after the war, he got into business. He started, first of all, doing some rubber. Okay. And then it wasn't until later in life that he got into business. He started, first of all, doing some rubber. Okay. And then it wasn't until later in life that he got into shipping. So it wasn't until in 2014, he, at the age of 92 years old, Yeah.

Wow. he became a billionaire. So he sold his share or his company? No, it was just his company became more valuable and his shares in it were totaled at 2014, it ticked over a billionaire. So he sold his share or his company? No, it was just his company became more valuable and his shares in it were totaled at 2014, it ticked over a billion. What's his company like? Do we have seen the logo on a

shipping container somewhere? Pacific International Lines, PIL. Oh yeah, probably. Feels right. I'm seeing some ships keep an eye out. So it went up to $2.7 billion in 2015, and then it went down again in 2020, because I don't know if you guys remember that,

COVID and everything. I remember the year well. And he died in 2020 at the age of 102. Wow. Yeah. But he would have been still living alright pre being valued at that, or no? He wasn't poor. He was in his millions

but he didn't become a billionaire until he was in his 90s in 2014. It's almost a bit of a shame, isn't it? What are you going to do? Just hand it over. You'd have pretty good handles in your shower by then. Oh yeah. Gold plated handles. You'd have a nice sticky mat on the floor.

Oh, my God. I mean, how nice can the sticky mat be, though? I guess us povos will never know. We'll never know. Billy and you could have a new sticky mat every day. You'd have a lift. You'd have a lift. Yeah.

Walks into Bed Bath & Beyond and they say, Sir, it's straight to the Beyond section for you. Yeah. Yeah, wow. Sir, if you'll follow me. I've never been to Beyond. Take down the little velvet rope and take them out back. Got to be a billionaire to get into the Beyond.

I've only been to Bed and Bath because I'm doing all right, but not Beyond good. Not Beyond. Definitely not. So today's fact of the day is the oldest person to become a billionaire did not become a billionaire until he was in his 90s. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Day. The impossible phone-in topic.

A topic we think is quite hard to get calls for. Yeah. And maybe impossible. Yeah. So, this is a story about a woman in Australia, I believe, who used Air Tasker. Now Air Tasker is like a cheap kind of, we've got versions of it, but I can't remember the name.

It's like- So you've got a job. Say you want someone- A task or a job. So you wanted someone to, I don't know, clean, do your hedges and clean out your backyard. You'd be like, can someone do this? And someone will be like, I'll do it for 50 bucks.

Totally. I had a look online, like, kill a spider for me. 50 bucks. Come sing happy birthday to, you know, get a big group together, sing happy birthday for this person. Need two people to wear a costume for 30 minutes. No other details. That's a no.

That's a weird one. Is that a two-person costume? Like a horse. So it's not just odd jobs. It's also odd things. Strange services. Okay. And then you put a price on it.

I'll pay you 50 bucks if you come over to my house and sit on my couch and tell me whether it's comfy or not. Quirky jobs, basically, on Airtasker. One popped up and caught the attention of the internet. They were offering $350 for this job. And it was to join this person on a stakeout of their boyfriend to try to catch the boyfriend cheating. So the person who listed the job had suspicions. And they wanted them to drive me and sit in my car

to try and catch my cheating boyfriend. That was the ad, $350. Okay. They wanted that ad. $350. Okay. They wanted that to happen on Monday. And then they set a time. And I actually don't know if, looking at this, if anyone took the job. Because we wouldn't know. It just goes private world.

Yeah, I need to know now. And was the boyfriend cheating? So what, they just had to do a stay count? They weren't, like, sliding into the DMs? No, but looking on this, there are other ads. It's opened up a whole world on EarTasker, right? That people are going, oh yeah, I'll pay you $300. To bait my boyfriend.

To bait my boyfriend to catch him cheating. And there's a whole like, almost like a subcategory on this site of cheating baiting, basically. Like a, what do you call it, a test? A little test. Like, hey, are you hot? Can I pay you to DM my boyfriend on Instagram saying, hey, cutie patootie, wanna connect?

And then we'll see where it goes. And if I catch him, I'll pay you, and then my boyfriend will get it. Wow. This is chaos. This is nuts, right? This is chaos. This is chaos.

It's toxic. He might not have ever sat the test, but you're going to put him through a test. Yeah. So this is what I want to know. This is the impossible phoner today. Have you paid money to bait your partner into cheating? What about have you ever got somebody to, like you get a friend to do it? There's no payment, but just a test. Oh yeah, we can go pay a list.

Have you ever baited? Yeah, like run a cheating test on your boyfriend. It's a cheating test. It's a loyalty test. Loyalty test. Is what you call it. Okay, we'll do that. Yeah.

Have you run a loyalty test? Yeah. Or been involved in a loyalty test? Whether it involved just getting a friend to like in person, have a go and see if he would like. I mean that pre-social media, that would be the way to go, right? Choose a friend that or person that your boyfriend doesn't know. Go to the bar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeahirt with my boyfriend and see what he does. Go to the bar.

Yeah. Yeah. Kiss my girlfriend and see if she responds. Or if you're DMing, if you're messaging, if you've paid someone anonymously or got a friend to do it. I mean, I feel if you're asking to do this and you're doing this, there's already some issues, right?

Like, it's not healthy. No, no, no, no. This is a toxic behaviour. We're not going to judge you for it because I understand why people do this. But if it's a big thing online and people are making money off of this, have you ever done it or been involved in a loyalty test?

Whether it was for money or not, you got paid for it? The impossible phone-in topic. No, it's not impossible. It's not at all impossible. Have you ever been involved in or run a loyalty test on a partner, a husband, a wife, a girlfriend, boyfriend? I know.

Apparently this is happening left, right and centre. A lot of people in Australia on the Task app, and this overseas as well, will pay people to run these loyalty tests. Yeah, like bait them with something and see if they'll bite, basically. Oh my God, one of these stories is so wild. There's like eight wild stories. So we're getting a lot of text messages in, but people are not willing to talk on the matter. Fair enough.

Which I totally get. Here's my anonymous story. I don't want to sound crazy, though. I was lying in bed with my boyfriend at the time. I seen a text. Okay. But he'd done. He'd done a text back in the 2000s from someone saying,

hey, babe, how was work? We need a shower. I changed her number to a friend of mine and said to the friend, this is the situation. He's texting someone that's not me. Okay. Can you get involved? So you just reply to

him and maybe see what's up. And he was taking full on bait and even sent pics of his body and everything. So he was doing the dirty on me. Okay. Somebody else said, my neighbour asked me to message her husband on Facebook. This is my favourite one. To try

to bait him so that she would have a decent reason to divorce him. Right, because you've got to have means for divorce, right? Yeah. And that'll help you in your divorce proceedings. It reconciles. It reconciles. I know, but if she's trying to get money and you say that he cheated.

She wasn't happy in the relationship and told me she had been unfaithful but didn't want to break up. Didn't want the breakup to be her fault because of course she could do no wrong. I was like okay. I did message him but he didn't really bite. I wasn't into it. Didn't try very hard. He didn't. Right. He wasn't nibbling. I later

found out she had been unfaithful many times including with my boyfriend. Oh what? Her husband had also been unfaithful while he was away for work. They're still together. My boyfriend and I are not. They're still together?

They're still together. Living in that toxic dump of a relationship. The audacity of this woman to ask her neighbour, how can you do this for me, knowing full well that she's been sleeping with the neighbour's boyfriend. Yeah. That is like a soap opera. That is.

Like crazy plot. That's pulpy juice. My loyalty test went wrong. My friend found her boyfriend was still on a soap opera. That is. Like crazy plot. That's pulpy juice. My loyalty test went wrong. My friend found her boyfriend was still on a dating app. She got me to message him to see if the account was active. He did end up replying and wanted to take it further. I told my friend she got angry at me for leading him on. And breaking up their relationship.

She was doing the loyalty test. You asked. You asked her to do the loyalty test. She nailed it. I thought you were going to say they're still together. Oh, no, no word on that. Yeah, okay. No word on that.

Doesn't sound like it. My girlfriend got her cousin to message me to meet her to talk about school stuff and her wanting to leave, but didn't want to let my girlfriend know. What? What? What? What? But I had done nothing wrong, and I was like, I'll help out her cousin.

It's my girlfriend's cousin. I'm a nice person. Girlfriend ended up cheating on me with her ex that she drove two hours to see. I don't understand what just happened. That was like eight lines. That's confusing. The girlfriend got her cousin to message her boyfriend saying, hey, it's me, your girlfriend's cousin.

Do you want to meet up and talk about school and some other stuff? I want to leave school. But the cousin was telling the cousin to do it. Yeah. And he was like, okay, I'm a nice guy. I'll talk to my cousins. Nothing flirtatious. I'll talk to my girlfriend's cousin.

So he passed the test but then found out that she was cheating on him. Right. Oh, okay. So she's caused a test, but she's actually cheating. Yeah. Often the guiltiest dog barks the loudest, is the old saying. Yes, indeed. This did not happen in New Zealand.

My best friend told me her husband was cheating and her attempts to catch him had failed. I hired a sex worker to go to his gym and flirt with him. Wait. How much does that cost? What? So you're just pulling up on the side of the road Hop in

Hop in Hop in I'll pay you We're off to any known fitness I've also got you a membership Went on for two weeks Multiple visits to the gym you're paying for this sex worker's time Are you paying for a casual membership to the gym

Or does this sex worker already have a membership to the gym? Well they're using your swipe card Then you're going to kick it out of the gym Because you this sex worker already have a membership to the gym? Well, they're using your swipe card and then you're going to kick it out of the gym because you're sharing your swipe card. Okay, what happened?

Then we told the escort to take him to a motel and we'll be there waiting. They did go to the hotel and as he was undressing we barged in with the police! What?

In my home country it's illegal to have a mistress. He was in jail for three days. Oh. What the hell? What?

Just happened. Illegal to have a mistress? Yeah. I simply must know what country this is. Like, okay, wow. Like to have an extramarital affair, is that illegal? It must be. Would that be the illegal thing?

It must be. Why? Maybe quite a conservative country. I'm thinking, are that be the illegal thing? It must be. Why? Maybe quite a conservative country. I'm thinking, are we in the Middle East? Or are we, I'm feeling like Philippines. Is the Philippines got that guy? Or Indonesia even? Yeah.

People say, oh my God, I love the tea. Yeah, adultery. So most countries that criminalise adultery are those with the dominant religion. So you're going to countries, like it does mention the Philippines. Yeah. There are 15 US states as well where adultery is illegal.

So you not only catch your partner cheating, but you're like, I'm going to send you to jail. Several sub-Saharan African countries as well. Bees do be getting crazy. Yeah. To that last person texting saying, I'm loving this tea. Why do bees be getting crazy?

Because you... I'm too tired to pay for a sex worker's time once. Let alone send them to the gym to develop this long-term, long-play flirt. Wild. I love that. I love that. So good.

Thank you for all of your messages. And again, it wasn't impossible, was it? It wasn't impossible, it was juicy. Is that the podcast done? Because I'm busting for a poos. Busting for a poos. Jesus. Give us a review.