ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 21st January 2025

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

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Thank you, Bryn. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Flesh, Vaughan and Hayley. Thank you Bryn. Good morning. Welcome to the show. Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Two minutes past six. We haven't seen Bryn in the flesh. I need to go and say Happy New Year. Are we still saying that? I said that to a couple of people yesterday. Oh no, we're three weeks in. Yeah, but it was first day back at work. No, but our year sort of just started. Oh yeah, okay, first day back. I feel like January. Should we say? I feel like this is definitely the last week of Happy New Year. Okay. Then what are we saying?

Happy Easter. Oh, yeah. I did see cream eggs at the supermarket. For God's sake. Many happy Waitangi, I think we say. Yep. Around February. Sure.

And, of course, Happy Valentine's Day. Yeah, a few long weekends coming up. Oh, yeah. Us, a few long weekends coming up. Oh, yeah. Us, literally second day back at work. God, I need a long weekend. Are you going to have something to look forward to? Oh, God, I need a holiday. Homegrown.

Yes. Bit of an institution. Oh, no. Leaving? Leaving. Leaving. Leaving Wellington. Looking for a new home.

Yeah, you're going to deal with this in the top six. The top six possible places it could go instead. We'll tell you the news, what's happening there soon in the top six. Next on the show... Who makes the emotional decisions when it comes to money? The answer may shock you.

Really? Yeah. I don't know if this aligns with my household. We'll dive into it next. Play Zed-Ems, Fleshborn and Hayley. Yeah, cute. Now, this is a study out of the University of Essex. Yeah, Essex.

That was challenging stereotypes about... Are they still doing that show? The Only Way is Essex. The Only Way is Essex. No, surprisingly enough, that pile of human dog shit on fire. Flaming dog shit. A human dog shit? That's a mixture of a human shit and dog shit.

Didn't survive, I don't think. Didn't survive. But something and more took its place. University of Essex challenging stereotypes about gender and emotional carryover effect, which is how emotions from something carry over to something completely unrelated. Right.

Like this particular study looked at spending. And so when you say, if you look at men and women, who would spend more based on emotions? Vaughan, do you have a comment? Emotions being? Well, that depends. When you think about it, I remember buying our first house at an auction. Oh, that's emotions.

I know. And they were like, no, this is our limit. Shada's like, more. I'm like, no. Yeah, yeah. I was on that. And she's like, more. And I'm like, no.

Yeah, right. They say that you're not meant to buy a house with emotions. Yeah. That's the only thing you buy them with. I know, yeah. But then when it comes to spending money on, like, my Land Rover, which I inherited from my granddad, that's a house with emotions. That's the only thing you buy them with. I know, yeah. But then when it comes to spending money on like my Land Rover, which I inherited from my granddad,

that's a very emotional thing. Well, and it also depends on the emotion. So this study, it took men and women in two different groups, showed them one of three videos. It was a neutral video, which was a nature documentary on the Great Barrier Reef,

which I almost these days would say it's not neutral. No. Sometimes you go, oh my God, it's dire. Yeah. But they called that neutral, just like, here's some reefs. And some fish. Some nemo fish. There you go, that's a neutral video.

A fear-inducing video, a clip from The Shining. Oh, wow, okay. And a real-world anxiety video, which was news footage about the 1990s mad cow disease crisis. How does scientists come up with this stuff? I mean, we'll just turn on the news that's on today. Yeah, I was going to say, you just turn on the 6 o'clock news. The first three are going to be pretty bloody shocking.

So afterwards, right, so they, at random, watch one of these three videos. Afterwards, they had to make real money decisions involving risky or ambiguous financial decisions. So like, maybe buying a house would be a risky one or an ambiguous one

being like, let me buy some clothes or something. Now men had the most like, impact from watching these videos. So those that watched

an emotional video or a horror video or like the mad cow disease one became risk adverse to spending. Okay. Maybe they were so shocked and they suddenly were gripping,

like grasping the concept of life. They're like, I don't want to buy a house. I could get mad cow disease. Exactly. And the effect was the strongest when they watched the mad cow disease one. They were like, their whole spending habits changed. Whereas women, who you would imagine would be the emotional ones, no impact, regardless of the video they watch, whether it was

neutral, fear-inducing, or a real-world anxiety video, no impact. They just spent money regardless. I was like, we just buy, buy, buy, buy, buy. Yeah. But if you were having a bad day or, would you go shopping? Would you go antique shopping? 100, a little treat.

Little treat, little treat. A little treat. When I'm sad, I want a little treat. When I'm really happy, I feel like celebrating with A little treat. A little treat. A little treat. A little treat. When I'm sad, I want a little treat. When I'm really happy, I feel like celebrating with a little treat. But you don't, and some guys

are just as bad. Men are just as bad. According to this, it feels like men are more impacted by emotions when it comes to shopping. It changes their feeling.

It changes them more. Whereas women would just sort of remain a bit neutral. Continual. Which actually, when they were trying to sort of challenge the stereotype, it kind of proved the opposite.

We're not emotional spenders. You're just problematic spenders. We're just spenders. Yeah. I actually feel like a little treat today. Do you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually need to go into Newmarket, and I need to get a new thing from Mecca.

I might get myself a little treat. Right, okay. A little glitter or something. You know, just like, it little treat. Right, okay. A little glitter or something. You know, just like, it doesn't have to be much. A little $20 treat. All adds up though, eh? All those treats? Oh, shut up.

Only then. Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughn and Hayley. Here's more bad news. Guys, here's more bad news. Can we have some good news, please? Oh, is this the bad news? Yeah. I didn't think you'd be personally taking this as bad news.

He's devastated. This is weird. I thought you'd be so non Yeah. I didn't think you'd be personally taking this as bad news. He's devastated. This is weird. I thought you'd be so nonchalant about this that you'd... Oh, no, I've been consoling my life. You're not a red meat eater. I don't like when New Zealand goes down on the list. On anything, yeah. I want us to be number one per capita on everything.

Oh, no, but you don't want, like, crime and... Oh, no, not that. Yeah, the good per capita. The good, like gold medals. I want the good stats. Yeah, the per capita capita. Like gold medals. I want the good stats. Yeah, the per capita gold medals. That's where we're at. Yeah.

Okay, well, what's the bad news? Well, from 22 sheep per person in 1980- That was the pride of the nation. I remember all of my 22 sheep when I was- Me too. You had 22. You had a personal flock of 22. Ginny and John.

1981, the peak of the sheep per person ratio in New Zealand. And is that when all the jokes started from Australia? I would say so. Because they were like, oh, we've got 22 people, sheep per person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then all the jokes started. Well, after that, it's just been a steady decline. And now we are at four sheep per person.

That's not enough. That's not enough sheep per people because that's probably how many sheep I eat a year. So I'm going to need to start eating a lot of sheep. I love sheep. That's quite a lot of sheep. I love lamb. I would eat lamb every week. People are like, I don't like mutton.

Yeah, you're not cooking it right. I don't mind it in a curry. It's tasty. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mutton in a curry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mutton flaps, yum. Just got to cook them for a little bit longer.

Would you call me? How dare you? It's quite rude. It's really rude. This hour in the morning? Here's why. Drought. Oh, yeah.

Storms. And greater land profit from wine growing. Oh, now I'm not as upset. I know, you're not as upset. Now I'm not as upset if we're making room for more wine. You would think of all the high country, you know, or even the places around

Queenstown that back in the day just would have been sheep because they're obviously not fertile enough for cattle, which require a bit more grass. Obviously. The cattle require more grass. Of course. Obviously. More intensive, whereas sheep spread out a little bit more. It's wine drinkers.

It's wine drinkers that are the problem because they're greater profits from wine. Wine. And you think around like Blenheim. Yep. You know, it's just all vineyards now, but it would have been sheep back in the day. Yeah. Okay. That's another example.

What do you mean? We just don't have enough space for them now. Well, the priority is wine growing. I've driven around this country. There's another example. What do you mean? We just don't have enough space for them now. Well, the priority is wine growing. I've driven around this country. There's a lot of space. We've got more sheep in. You've flown over this country? Plenty of space.

Yeah, but not all sheepy. I don't know. Put townhouses in there, you know? You put more townhouses? Yeah, sometimes I do. So next time I tell you this story, I was like, we're down to three sheep per person. The reason, drought, storms, greater profits from wine growing,

and townhouses. Sometimes when I fly over New Zealand and I see, especially the South Island, you see all that land untouched. I just get some townhouses in there, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. More, more, more, more, more. Heaps of them. Heaps.

The ones that touch. Whip them up quick. Yeah, yeah. I reckon get rid of any checks and just let people build their own. It's brand new. What's going to go wrong? Yeah. I always get excited when you fly over, especially the South Island,

and you see the perfect circles. The irrigation. How do they do those? How do they do those? Aliens. Okay, so that's another reason that the sheep numbers have dropped because that land. What's perfect circles?

That land used to be you couldn't grow enough grass for cows and cattle. Obviously. Maybe dry stock. But not the dairy. Maybe dry stock. Not the dairy. But now they can irrigate that. With the perfect circles.

With the perfect circles. And then the cows are in there making the milk and the butter and the cheeses. Right. And the sheep are like, oh, what about us? Yeah, but if I said to you, hey, do you want to come over to my house for a glass of milk or a glass of wine, which one are you opting for? No, no, because wine and milk aren't in competition. Wine and lamb shanks are in competition. And might I say, a lovely parent.

Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Silly little foe. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole.

Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Today's silly little pole. How often do you wash your car? You do it at home with the hose and a bucket. I bet you I am. You don't go to the wash it yourself or a servo. When it rains, I guess, it gets washed.

It gets a bit of a wash, yeah. It always feels good, eh? When is the last time you washed your car? You know what? I'm pretty hard out about my bug off in the windscreen squirter, though. Yeah, I don't put anything in my windscreen squirter. Just water, raw dog from the hose. I've got some bug off in my glove box. I'd love to give you

a little top up before we leave work today. I topped up my water just recently so it's ready to go. When we leave today, pull up beside the gym and I'll just give you a little bit of green bug off. What are you on big money? I'm not on big bug off.

I'd take my car through a car wash maybe once a year. Can you use... I don't like car washes. I'm yet a big bug off. You're a big bug off? I'm not a big bug off. No, I'd take my car through a car wash maybe once a year. Can you use... Lazy. I don't like car washes. I'm yet to find a satisfactory one. Can you use dishwashing liquid in your squirter? No. In your squirter?

You can't use your dishwashing liquid in the squirter or on your car. But that's what we used to wash Dad's car with. Dishwashing liquid. Times have changed. All the time in the 90s You were like go wash the car You get a bucket Water

Dishwashing liquid and a sponge None of this fancy wet stuff When I was a kid My parents were like wash the car And there was little bits of tar So I went inside and got a Steelo Why'd you do that?

Why'd you do that? I like ruined A paint job? I ruined it I think they claimed insurance on it And got it like Touched up What did they say? A summeral panel A it. I think they claimed insurance on it and got it like touched up. What did they say?

They drove some dumbass son got a steelo on it. Yeah. I don't know. I feel bad about that now. I was with best of intentions. I don't think I got a hiding for it though. Such a dummy. Thick. Thick rural kid. Thick dummy.

So how often do you wash your car? I'll start at the bottom. 5% of people wash it weekly. Yeah. Just not anymore, eh? Maybe back in the day. Have you had a really nice car? Have you had a show car maybe?

Yeah. Yeah, if you had a nice car and you lived in a nice suburb and you had a nice job and you drove it around nice places. Like if you had a company car and it was part of your job maybe? You'd put it through. It'd probably never get, because that's the thing, I wait till my car's really dirty,

go through a car wash, and then I'm always disappointed with the job it did. But I'd probably need to do it well before it gets to that level of dirtiness. I might do it today just for a bit of me time. Okay. I love it. I hope it's one of those ones

that actually still touches your car. Oh, I love being whacked by them. No, no, you've got to get the whack. And it squirts the colourful foam on your windscreen. No, yeah, I want the tackiest, wackiest. The second most popular is at 19% never. Oh, wow, okay. One in five people never wash their car.

Well, it rains so much, that's a wash. And if you've got a rusty old shitbox. It probably wouldn't have got there if you cared for it a little bit more. Yeah. 37% of people wash it yearly. Yearly? That's me. I put that.

You put yearly? Yeah. Inside and out, by the way. Yeah, that's obvious. At the same time? That's so yuck. I hate when they're out of sync. I like if my car's dirty on the outside

and it needs to be a bit grubber. No, always out of sync. Oh, no, I can't have a clean inside and a dirty outside. The inside I'll do only when I'm like, man, it's getting yuck in here. The outside, I can't have a clean inside and a dirty outside. The inside I'll do only when I'm like, man, it's getting yuck in here. The outside, I couldn't care less. I park under a tree that drops stuff on it.

You've got like crusted bird poo. I've got crusted bird poo and old dried flowers and stuff. It's character. 39% of people do it monthly. So monthly is the most popular, but only just ahead of yearly. That's people with a nice car, though, eh? Yeah. Like, they've put money into a good car.

If I had a nice car, you'd take care of it for a bit. Lottie says, isn't that what rain's for? Laughs in British. Yep. I really take the car to be washed as it genuinely doesn't get enough dry time to be dirty. I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah. For your British vehicle.

Do you think if you were going on a big drive and it was raining for the whole trip, could you just squirt your car with some kind of foam? With a spray wipe. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, as you drive. I would wash off real quick. And then you're driving, the rain, the motorway would kind of air dry it.

But there's no friction. You need to get a sponge on that thing. Someone once sent me really nice car wash stuff. Yeah. And I put a lot of time it was Swedish or something. Some Scandinavian shit. Oh, okay.

They don't muck around. They drive Volvo. All of them drive Volvos and play Angry Birds on their Nokias. So I washed the car. I did the proper job. I followed the instructions

and no, like, nothing stuck to it for quite some time. Wow. Like when it would rain it would bead. Like a coat. Yeah, it was like a waxy,

waxy, that was nice. Bryn Rudkin, our own Bryn Like a coat. Yeah, it was like a waxy that was nice. Bryn Rudkin, our own Bryn Rudkin. Oh, I think he's a popping bi. Biannually. Twice a year. He loves his biannually. He loves his biannual. Alexandra says, monthly but go through a car wash as we're on

tank water. Which is only 8,000 litres. Someone get this woman a bigger tank. How are you surviving on tank tiny for a house to survive on tank water, which is only 8,000 litres. Someone get this woman a bigger tank. How are you surviving on tank tiny for a house to survive on tank water? Have you guys ever gone to fill up with fuel and just used the brush and given your car a hole full on? Oh, my God, yes. And then got the watering can.

Yeah. And washed really dirty bits. Do you know where I worked at? Shell back in the day. We had to run out. Like, our boss, it was a big thing. It was written in the staff room. It was like, do not let people wash their cars with a windscreen brush.

Yeah. I used to love getting out and doing that. Especially when it was my parents' car. My dad would be like, get out and clean the windows. Yeah. Do the whole car. Do the whole car. Not just the windows.

And then get the watering can, which is for the squeegee water thing. Yeah. Just be like. Yeah, 100%. So good. Free car wash. My neighbours wash their car every week, said Tegan.

They say they haven't won Lotto, but there are signs. They must have nice cars. Nice cars. Kate says it gets a wash when it goes to get fixed by the garage. And it's a Jeep, so that happens pretty often. So the garage washes it for them.

Must be included in there. I once went to a place, I think this is when I lived in Wellington, a complimentary groom. Ooh, lovely. That's quite nice. Well, I remember when we went away with work and we took my car and I just said, chuck a complimentary valet on the top of it. Got away with that twice.

Got away with that twice and then got really told off for it. Kushla said said It's probably The only time I'll ever have A brand new car So I want it to look As nice as possible I wash it heaps

Plus I live in Australia And you have to stay On top of the bat shit As it's really acidic And eats through your paint What's bat shit Look like? Crazy

I'm imagining Like a big chicken one Bat shit does look crazy Bat shit crazy Weekly on Fort Harley I've got a work car So I've got to keep it looking good. You just leave it on your car and then eventually there might be a hole in the roof. It would eat through the paint.

Crazy. Yeah. Terrible, eh? As a member of the Car Enthusiast Club and a proud truckie, nothing better than your pride and joy gleaming and reflecting sunshine, says Ardapeta. Pride and joy. Pride. I know truckies take a lot of pride in giving their truck a glue wash.

Oh, God, yeah. And they love lots of lights. They do love it. Sometimes at night, it's like a Christmas tree. They love a Native American with an eagle and a wolf and a lake. And then you say, oh, are you a Native American? And they say, nope, nope. Just looks nice.

White Irish. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. I got a fat goat. Fatter goats than usual. I'm very careful with my goats. You have pet goats. I got pet goats.

When I first got Harold and Helen, um, huh? Harold and Helen, that was their name. They're still going. They're still going. How long do goats last? Sometimes they push through the fence and I Google that. How long will I have to put up with these goats?

What is the life expectancy of a goat? I think of that breed of goat, it's like eight or nine years. And they're probably seven-ish years old. We don't know because they were roadside signs. They were roadside signs. No, but if they get fat, they push down. Like you imagine you walked on your toes, but like your toes pointed down like a ballerina.

Yeah. And then when you get a little bit heavy, it – Sinks into the earth. No, it pulls the nail back from the finger because of the weight so they get a thing called laminitis and the outside of their hoof starts separating from their foot. Why is it so fat?

Why have you been feeding them? Put her on the shakes Get them on the oxy-shakes Yeah, the o-zemp goat Get out there, give them their jab But don't tell anyone that you're on it No, just say it's a lot of hard work and exercise Yeah, the OZemp goat. Yeah, the OZemp goat. Get out there, give them their jab. Yeah. But don't tell anyone that you're on it. Oh, no, God, no. No, no, just say it's a lot of hard work and exercise.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lifestyle changes. Lifestyle changes. Lifestyle changes that I, in my 40 years, haven't managed. But somehow now I've found the inspiration to do so. I'm not even really trying. I'm just happy and making a lifestyle change. It's just falling off me.

It's a change of mindset. And that's what I'm going to do. Just getting more sleep. I'll get the guys to tell everybody. And sorry, we got sidetracked there a little bit. I'm just going, oh, good, because it was early in summer. It was raining a bit. It's starting to dry out now around my place, but there was lots of grass.

Yeah. So they were eating a lot. And I've just Googled, it's red clover. You know red clover cute? It looks lovely. You don't want to talk about a little bit of red clover growing in the past. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's growing at the moment.

Now, apparently, if you're also a woman, I wouldn't recommend getting on your hands and knees and eating that grass in the paddock either. Oh, but that's my favourite thing to do. I know it's huge for you, but it acts as a pseudo-estrogen. What does that mean? Well, estrogen's the female hormone.

Oh, yeah, I knew that. You know how we've got testosterone? We've all got testosterone and estrogen, but we've got heaps of estrogen. You've got more testosterone. So your goats are eating this, and it's making them fat. They've got big titties. She's got big titties.

Her big goat udders filled up because her estrogen levels have gone up because she's eating red clover. And the same thing happens when you get pregnant. The estrogen levels go up and it tells the body it's time to start producing milk. So you'll go makey milky. My goat had big udders and I put my hand on it and I went strip down. Like if you've ever milked, you grab the top and you run your hand down it.

And did milk come out? And milk came out. Good milk? I don't know. Is it blue top? Is it blue top? Well, it probably're quite old. Is it blue top? Well, it probably would be blue top. It would be blue because everything's blue by default. Right. Light blue or dark blue?

No, dark blue. And then there's various processes that take some of the fat out of it. How do they make yellow? What's yellow's deal? Calci trim? Calci trim. Take out some vitamins or something. Get some vitamins and put a bit of water in there? Ground up bone. Yeah, right. Or teeth.

Yeah. That's what the tooth fairy does with all her teeth. She sells them to the milk company who grinds them up and puts them in the calcitrim for extra calcium. So your goats think they're pregnant? My goat one. Oh, right. Because I've got a boy and a girl.

But the boy doesn't have balls. So, yep. So not pregnant. What are you going to do? I mean, you're going to milk this. So I immediately went inside and Googled, well, I Googled, I went Timu.com and put it in a goat milking machine.

There was one on there for $140. Oh my God. And it comes with that and you plug it in and it goes, and it milks them and it puts them in a bucket and then it goes into the bucket and then you've got a bucket of milk. I wouldn't drink that. But I don't know if it's like, I don't know if it's legit milk. What do you mean?

It's from a goat. Or if it's a bit of leakage. I don't know if it's because it's a pretend pregnancy if the milk might be lacking something. Oh, right. Because goats like, I don't know,

retirement age, like yuck. Yeah, old milk. That's my thing. It's like it's gone off. Yeah. But it'd be tarty. It'd be tarty. It'd be very tart.

As far as I know, she's never had goatlets before. Yeah, right. So this could be it for her. Weird. Just get another cat next time, honestly. Yeah, honestly. So much effort. My cat has never thought he's pregnant.

Hard to milk a cat. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. From Vaughan's free trial of Microsoft Word, this is the top six. Wellington's homegrown is going to say goodbye after 18 years. Oh, Wellington. It's a myriad

of personal and logistical reasons. Someone's had a disagreement with council, haven't they? We've always been very proud as Wellingtonians of homegrown. You're from Rangiora. No, I'm not. What do you mean, as Wellingtonians? I'm a Wellingtonian.

You're a one-eyed cantab. I am not. We cannot get her to not support the Crusaders. What my passport says and what my soul says are two different things. Right. Okay. But no, homegrown, I used to go like every now and then. Does it say Rangi Ora

in your passport? It does. Wow. Rangi Ora. Place of birth. Dumpster slash Rangi Ora. Were you born in a dumpster? Excuse me.

I was not born in a dumpster. I was born in a Rangi Ora hospital. A very nice place. I don't know. I don't remember. So the homegrown have said that the event will continue. This year's the last year. Yeah. In Wellington and know. I don't remember. So the homegrown have said that the event will continue. This year's the last year.

Yeah. In Wellington and then somewhere else. Somewhere else. Which will be Auckland, right? They need a place. They need a place. Anyone got a backyard? Bourne, you've got a bit of...

Nope. Clear the goats. No. Christchurch or Auckland, right? No. It's got to be. Or maybe like... Ah!

Ah! Shut up! Bourne's about to do The top six places it could go and you assholes are just listing every place in New Zealand. I was going to say Hamilton makes him... Ah, shut up! Number six on the list.

Hamilton. It rolls off the tongue. Hamilton, homegrown. Oh, yeah. It's alliteration. Do we like that? Plus, Wellington stole Ex-Air from Hamilton, which was the precursor to homegrown.

Do you remember X-Air? Yeah, kind of. X-Air ruled. When we lived in Hamilton, it was the best weekend in Hamilton. Skateboarding, BMXing, motocrossing, it was like a mini X-Games. Embarrassingly enough, there was also rollerblading. But

Wellington then got X-Air for like the last couple of years that X-Air was around and then the same weekend, the same sort of crowd, it became Homegrown. So you're thinking tip for tap? Yeah. I think we give it back to Hamilton. Okay. Number five on the list of the top six places for Homegrown, the Desert Road.

Oh, yeah. The road's getting fixed. There's heaps of room. A wild horses zone. And it's cold there sometimes. Who wouldn't want to see the feelers and blind spot. And then a wild primordial horse. And blind spot.

Running. It'd be beautiful. It'd be beautiful. But what about the military training and they just come out and start shooting? That'd be cool if they set up some bombs like over the road from what's happening. And it's right in between Auckland and Wellington. Yeah. It's right in the middle.

Meet halfway. It's weird you'd meet halfway, right? Number four on the list of the top six places for homegrown, Dunedin. Because Dunedin's always like, no one comes here. That's actually a great impersonation

of someone from Dunedin. Yeah. No one comes here. They moved out from the car. Nobody comes here. They've got the lovely stadium. It'd be perfect. Yeah. Forsy comes. They've got the lovely stadium. It'd be perfect. Oh, yeah.

Forsyth. Shut the roof and make it a hot box. I think it's always shut, Vaughan. Huh? No. In summer, how do they air condition it? It must get to a million degrees in there in summer. I think it's always shut.

No, I've marched there a couple of times and it was open. No, it's always shut. It's always shut. Is it? It's not retractable. They didn't pay the extra $100 for the retractable. It's light. It's a light roof.

Yeah, it's see-through. Oh, it's a see-through roof and that's the same as open. It's the same as open. It's not the same. Well, a trip advisor of you said it might be covered, but it's still very cold.

So take that Dunedin Stadium. Cold in summer, stinking hot in winter and summer, just like every house in Dunedin. If there is take that Dunedin stadium cold in summer in your stinking roof stinking hot in winter and in summer just like every house in Dunedin if there is somebody in Dunedin

that could just text in and back me up there so that I know I'm right I didn't it is one of the most googled things I said does the Forsyth bar and then stadium roof open

was the yeah well that feels like a missed opportunity I mean no it's too late now it's expensive oh

natural grass it's the pitch itself is something special it's too late now. Yeah, but it's a fixed roof. It's expensive. Oh, bleh. Natural grass. It's the pitch itself is something special. It's the first time worldwide that natural grass has been grown under a fixed roof. So it's fixed. Thank you. It's like a massive greenhouse. Apology accepted. I didn't give one.

Apology retracted. Number three on the list of the top six places. You can't retract the apology. I didn't give it to retract it. Once it's been accepted, you can't retract it. He's right. Unaccept, retract. Number three on the list of the top six places for homegrown

on a ferry between the North and the South Island. I personally can't see a single problem here because those ferries are robust and reliable. Yeah. Nothing ever goes wrong. They just stop. Imagine seeing. Imagine where they park the cars and the trucks.

That would be an... Would the sound be good in that? No. It's a hard, small surface that would reverberate throughout. Imagine enjoying Cora and the Black Seeds upon the Inter-Islander. And you're like, man, it's pretty cool how they turned the engine off

so we can enjoy the full sound. And then you see staff running around screaming, the engine's not off, it's cut out, we're now adrift at sea. Classic Inter-Islander. Number two on the list. Jordan from Dunedin just wants to say good morning, have a great day, and yes, it's permanently.

It's permanently. Good morning to you, Jordan. Thank you, Jordan. That was who I was channeling when I was like, no one comes here. It's not what Jordan sounds like. That's exactly what Jordan sounds like. Jordan, nobody comes here. Number two on the list of the top six places for homegrown,

an abandoned quarry. Oh, yeah, nice. I don't know where. I just think that'd be cool. Plenty places for homegrown, an abandoned quarry. Oh, yeah, nice. I don't know where. I just think that'd be cool. Plenty of them. Yeah, a natural amphitheater. We don't have our natural red rocks. Many of the red rocks are US.

That's beautiful. So let's just do a quarry. Okay. And number one on the list of the top six places for homegrown, obviously Frank Kitts is a waterfront location. We're going to need to go for another waterfront location. I think we go for New Zealand's finest waterfront location, Huntley. On the river.

Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Huntley's homegrown. There it is. Alliteration. Gorgeous. That's today's top six.

Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Well, you just had Bryn mention in the news that the council are looking at limiting how many dogs can be walked at once. This is Auckland Council? Yeah, only Auckland Council. But so apparently, and I've looked into this news story,

the council said that multiple dogs being walked together appears to be a problem, an emerging issue for people in Auckland. What's the problem? It's too cute. There's lots of them. You don't know which one you want to pat. I want to pat the golden one.

I always find it comical when I see someone walking like 100 dogs. Well, we've got Cassie on the phone. Cassie, you are a professional dog walker. Yes, yes, I am. Did you go to Otago for that or did they do that in Victoria? Oh, I wish. There's actually no training here in New Zealand

for pack walking. But wait, is there training overseas? Like that's an actual thing? Not that I'm aware of. You can mentor under people and you can learn from other people, but that's pretty much the only way to learn how to pack walk. Do you remember the bloody art to it? I'm just on your Instagram at the moment having a look,

and I can see maybe they're like 20 dogs, two humans. What? What the hell? How many dogs have you walked at once? What's the record? Oh, I don't know. As a group, we got together once and we had about 100 dogs. Too many dogs. Oh, my don't know. Is that as a group, we got together once and we had about 100 dogs. Too many dogs.

Oh, my God. Cute. If you were going out dog walking like for work, how many dogs would you have on average? 14 is the limit that my business works to. And is that 14 just you or there's two humans per 14 dogs? 14 per person. Oh my god, fun!

And do you strap them all to you on a harness? Yes, look, I've just got a photo of the harness. Yeah, so usually we have like a pack strap. I quite often walk with my son as well, so I'll just have it attached to like around my waist. Wait, so then that means you can attached to around my waist. So then that means you can only take 13 dogs

because technically a child's a dog. They're similar. They're on a leash as well. Everybody's on a lead. So this photo that Hayley's got up on your Instagram, those are all big dogs. The dog squad.nz by the way, if you want to see some cute dogs. And do people get scared when they see you walking 14

dogs? I've never seen anyone get scared when they see you walking 14 dogs? I've never seen anyone get scared so generally if we're sharing a path with someone else we'll pull to the side and let people have right of way and all the dogs just sit down and wait. Right. And so if I'm an owner of a dog right, how do you

how do you vet that my dog's not an a-hole? So first thing we do is an assessment. So we go out and meet the dog. We meet the person. We figure out what their goals are in terms of training and what they want to see out of doing walks with us. And then we will, depending on the dog,

we'll either do an introduction day or we'll do training days in the lead up to them joining a pack. Cassie, when you meet the owner, say the dog's not there for the first five minutes, do you already know what the dog's going to be like based off the owner? Sometimes, yeah. So this is very often like owners and dogs are very similar.

Yeah, that's funny. I got this dog for Christmas. And I don't believe in disciplining it, but you can walk it. Yappy chihuahua. Wow. What's the best dog? What's the best dog?

She's not going to be able to pick a best dog. Oh, I love huskies, but like everyone's so different, but huskies are like. I heard huskies were. And Japanese are keeters. Oh, cute. I heard huskies were full noise. A lot of work.

Yeah, lots of work. Yeah. So That's the kind of service that we provide We're here for those dogs that need Quite a lot of exercise Exactly The council are saying That this is an issue for people You say when you're out walking You don't notice people getting scared

You move to the side, who's got an issue with this? So they did a people's panel survey early last year, actually. And in the survey, it actually said 55% of people don't have any issue with multiple dogs being walked. I'm unsure of the rest of that, so the rest of the 45%. But, yeah. I'm just looking at photos of these dog squads of yours. I just see a pack of good boys and girls. Because people leave their dog poo around.

I'm not saying you do. You'd pick it up. But, like, some people leave it. And that's maybe people's biggest issue. Yeah, but it's not just professionals. So they've not made a distinction between professionals or the general public. So multi-dogs could be people just walking two dogs. Yeah, right.

Okay. Yeah. Interesting. Oh, my God. I'm giving you a big fat follow, though dogs. Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Oh, my God. I'm giving you a big fat follow, though. I know, because it's so cute. Oh, my God.

They're so cute. I don't want to see this bad. I love seeing somebody walk a pack of dogs. It's the cutest thing ever. And when they're all mixed. They're all mixed dogs. It's just a big melting pot of dogs. I love it.

I'm looking through. How's Walter going? Because I've got a big soft spot for the golden retrievers. I'm looking through here's Walter going because I've got a you know I've got a big soft spot for the golden retrievers I'm looking through here Walter's awesome he's currently on a break at the moment because his mum's away

but him and his sister oh him and his mum come out with us so and we have all of his brothers and sisters as well just look at all the dogs they're like a whole family

of golden retrievers that's like 20 dogs okay that's cute okay I love that give that a follow Cassie thank you for speaking to us this morning. Yeah, thank you. And hopefully... These are proposed changes, so who knows if it's

actually going to go through or... Yeah, so we actually have a petition live at the moment where we're trying to get people to sign to state that they disagree with this rule change and also public submission is live at the moment as well. So you can actually go on the Auckland website and have your say as to whether you think this should be the change

or if you think you have a different idea. We personally think licensing would be a better issue. Like we are aware there's issues. There's definitely issues in our industry. It's hard though to get a dog in the AA to stand still for the photo though. Yeah, it is. It is really hard.

And do you know what? This is breeders. They'd never do it to cats. And they lick the instructor when the instructor's like, turn left here, they'll be like, and the instructor's like, very hard here, they'll be like, da-da-da-da-da.

And the instructor's not good for it. Very hard, very hard to get a license. Cassie, thank you so much. Thank you. No worries. Thanks, guys. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Shannon's Hacks is back for 2025.

Now, we did say that we would put the kibosh on this if she didn't get a five-star hack by the end of last year, and she didn't. But she has promised us. I do like the hacks. She tries. She really promised us something incredible this year. Did we get anything usable from last year?

The pads on the feet in the shower. You unanimously decided my best hack. Oh, the quality. I tell you, I haven't had it. The best of the bunch was strapping pants to your feet so you don't have to touch the shower at the gym. I haven't had a shower at the gym without pads on my feet since. Now, to be fair, I haven't had a shower at the gym

since the pad hack, but they're in the bag ready to go. Okay, what is today's hack? Well, you said it was based around going back to work. Yeah, so I'm going for 2025 star hacks this year. Okay. I've thought of that one. 2025 star hacks. year. Okay. I've thought of that one. 20-25 star hacks. Right.

So going back to work's a little bit hard. Emotionally, physically, we're tired, the routine's switched. I got into bed at 7.30 last night. Yeah. I was tired. Yeah, it's hard, right? Yelling you guys you've got to prioritize sleep. I tried, I was in bed at 8.30, couldn't sleep till half past nine,

then woke up at 3 o'clock this morning. So I hate you. Yeah, yeah. We're trying to follow his rule, but. And you're prioritizing sleep. No alcohol. Oh, my God. How boring was that?

I didn't have a coffee after our last coffee together yesterday. Neither. That's when you should be cutting off coffee. All afternoon. I didn't have a glass of wine. What the hell? Cutting back on carbs also sucks. Rattling around my house like, okay.

Seems hard on your body, right? It is hard. And going back to work, a lot of us have lots of KPI meetings for the year and it can be stressful. KPIs. Which I like to get from my heart radio. Me too. But it can be a really stressful time of year is what I'm trying to say.

I like to unwind listening to one of the many wellness podcasts. Where do you listen to these podcasts? IR Radio. Thank you. It's KPIs. I've never listened to a wellness podcast in my life, and if I ever tell you that I listen to a wellness podcast, I need to be checked in somewhere.

Because we hang out with a wellness podcast. He is a podcast. His name's Fletch. And he sucks. A lot of people find themselves having a little bit of an office cry in their first week. Yeah. Sometimes it's overwhelming and it just

comes out and it's embarrassing or you cry in public. It's just too much. People come ask you if you're okay. We don't like this, right? We've all been there. My hack for you today, if you find yourself crying in the office, head to your local cemetery and stand. Why? This is

zero stars. Stand next to a random grave. Just let it out. Give the tears a place. I'm going to Google that to see where the closest cemetery to here. I'm guessing Simon's stream. No, but that got bold. Didn't they put a motorway through it? Yeah, that's the saddest part.

No, they moved some of them. Yeah, they did. Because you're allowed to move them for a motorway. I checked. It's 23 minutes walk. Okay. Wait, so you're allowed to move them for a motorway. I checked. It's 23 minutes walk. Okay. Wait, so you're crying on the walk? You're crying for 23 minutes there, 23 minutes back.

We've been crying for 56 minutes. How long are we there for? We've got one hour for lunch. That's six minutes crying at the graveyard. Can you Uber to the cemetery? Yes, yes, yes. You can Uber. Okay, so five minutes.

Get a scooter. Or a scooter. So you're crying at work. You scooter or Uber five minutes to the cemetery. Let it all out. Just find a random grave. Grave. And just, no one's going to stop you.

No one's going to come over and be like, what's wrong? They get it. Why don't you just go to the toilet cubicles like every other female? No, they hear you. It's too embarrassing. Because then people, they'll wait. Especially if you throw up at work and everyone's like, baby, you're hungover. Yeah, I know.

That's embarrassing. That's the worst day. People are like, congrats on your big night last night. So, yeah, head to a cemetery, find a grave. No one's going to stop you. You'll get it out of your system. Head back to work and smash your KPIs. Because when I walk past the closest cemetery to our work,

I think, wow, that young woman in her 20s is really grieving that person lost in 1810. Yes, all the cemeteries in central business districts are hundreds of years old. I'm really connected with my great, great, great grandfather. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me too. He was a great man.

You know, he just got in there. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Right now, we want to know why you aren't talking to a family member. Give us the goss. A brother. Give us the dirt. A brother, a father, a mother, a sister,

an auntie, an uncle, whoever. We want to know this because someone shared on Reddit that their sister was pregnant and then gave birth. Right. Generally sometimes how it goes. Yeah. Gave birth and they were trying to decide for a lovely name for their new baby daughter.

Okay. And the sister was like, oh, what are you thinking? What are you thinking? They're like, we've decided on a name. It's an Egyptian name. Yeah. Beautiful name. It's an Egyptian goddess.

Ra. Is that an Egyptian goddess? Ra, god of the sun. Oh, okay. The name of this particular Egyptian goddess is Isis. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, before the terror group. Of course. There were many Isis names. Yes. There was people and businesses. They have sullied this name. We're not saying that that's a bad word or a bad name, but they have clearly sort of, when you think Isis,

you think of one thing now. Yes. So this sister doing her sister what she thought was a favour, brought up and was like, dude, that's the name of one of the biggest terrorist groups in the world. Maybe we don't want to be naming our kid that. I do apologise for the interruption. Yes, Vaughan.

Is ISIS still functioning with the ferocity that they were 10 years ago? God, there's so much else going on in the world. I'm not really sure what ISIS is happening. Current status of ISIS. Despite losing many of its leaders and its territory, ISIS remains capable of conducting insurgent operations in Iraq and Syria while overseeing at least 19 branches and networks.

Branches? Branches. Like the ASB. I just sort of would have thought that they'd be more disorganised. There's one in the mall. There's one in the little town. I can't find a bloody ISIS that's open. We don't need it to be.

My little ISIS is only open on Tuesdays between 12 and 4. They're closing all the branches. Which is really hard for older ISIS members. Yeah, they want to go in and make their ISIS deposits, ask some questions, and this is why I'm worried about my nan getting scammed by ISIS on the phone. Oh, I know. Because she always wants to go into the ISIS, but the ISIS is short.

You need to look ISIS in the eyes when you make your transactions. Anyway, so the sister brought it up, and the sister with the baby just absolutely lost it. Was so, like, hurt and has not talked to her since. But the sister has, like, no, has she ever watched the news? Probably, but she was like, no, this is the name we want. It's a beautiful name. It means this, it means this. And the sister's just going, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But, you know, in this modern world, we think of something else. We think of ISIS. So a few people online chimed in being like, look, the one thing is she shared something exciting with you and your immediate response was something negative. That's why she's sort of a bit hurt. But other people were like, no, you're looking out

for your niece. Yeah, like, good luck putting that in a passport and trying to travel. Beautiful little ISIS Hitler Smith is a wonderful baby regardless of what name we give.

Oh yeah, we didn't even get into the middle name. Yeah, we didn't get to the middle name. Anyway, so they're not talking. These sisters. Oh, she was trying to look out for her. She wasn't being...

I know. Okay. I know. Anyway, this is what we want to know this morning. Give us a call or a text. Are you not talking to a family member at the moment and why? Feel free to talk anonymously. Maybe there was some drama

at Christmas. Oh yeah, maybe it's hot and recent. Always like wills. Like someone dies and then there's a fight about money or someone steals from another family member. Or love interests like they don't like your boyfriend, they don't like this. Maybe someone was wronged.

Maybe someone did something terrible. Okay, 0800-DARLS-AT-M. Give us a call now. You can text through 9696. Why are you not talking to a family member right now? Currently hearing from you as to why you are not talking to a family member right now. Okay, there are some wild stories coming through and a lot of people just want to remain anonymous.

Which is fair enough. Even some we have been told not to read. The reason we're asking is because there were two sisters. One of the sisters gave birth to a young girl, told her other sister that she wanted to name the child after an Egyptian goddess called Isis. The other sister advised her that that was probably

not a great name. And she's just sick to Al-Qaeda. Something nice and easy. So, we want to Probably not a great name. And she's just stick to Al-Qaeda. Something nice and easy. Yeah. So we want to know why. You're not talking to your family. Some Instagram responses because we asked on the gram. It's da gram.

You never say da gram. I do apologize. Yeah. Sorry, that's all right. I'm over there showing my age. I know who you are. And you've been on holiday. Da gram.

Somebody said because they were jealous that I, they stopped talking to me and I couldn't work out why. Asked around. It turns out they were jealous That I They stopped talking to me And I couldn't work out why Asked around It turns out they were jealous I had purchased the house And they hadn't yet 20 year age gap

20 year age gap And this makes it sound like The younger of At the end of that gap Oh yeah right Had purchased the house Oh okay Because I was going to say

If the older If the older one Purchased a house And the younger one didn't I was like Tell the younger one They never will. 20 years younger?

I'm sorry, that's never happening. I'm not talking to them because they stole my inheritance. Now, did they steal your inheritance or was it just not as much given to you? Yeah. You know, like, you weren't the favourite. Did the people that were giving it to you decide that you didn't deserve as much?

Or did they use abseiling gear to lower themselves from the ceiling and pinch Nana's wedding ring out of the dish beside your bed? Because that is stealing. That's also stealing. But it's a heist. And I admire that a little bit more than plain old stealing. Get back up through the roof from your abseiling. I never know.

No, but who's pulling you? I pull myself. Anti-gravity? No, I'm an abseiler. And what if they wake up? I abseil down. It's a silly idea. Like I'm abseiling and then I roll around and I grab Nana's ring and I put it on my finger.

You don't have the upper body strength. I'm sorry to pull yourself up. I know you've been working on your pull-ups. I did my pull-ups. I'm sorry. I only do my pull-ups. You'd get halfway up to the dome top. I'd be up there.

I'm sorry, Vaughn, but you're not abseiling into Nana's bedroom. No, you're not. No, no, Nana's dead. It's not her bedroom. It's my sister's bedroom. Well, why don't you just go in while she's at work? Great idea. Just walk through the door.

Great idea. I'm not talking to my hello, burglary 101. Go in there when you're visiting your niece and nephew or something. Yeah, yeah. God damn. They lied about my birth father for 28 years. I've just found out and I'm not talking to anybody. Oh, that'd be a...

But did they have good reason to? Like, would you have been like... I don't know. Well, just, I think being lied to that much of your life... Like, you probably don't need to tell them when they're a little kid, but there needs to be a talk at some stage, right? I think, when's the time right? Well, that sounds like a juicy story.

Yeah. 18th? Nah, you don't want to pick one of the big ones. You wouldn't go 18th or 21st. You might go 17th. 16th? Nah, I've got want to pick one of the big ones. You wouldn't go 18th or 21st. You might go 17th. Nah, I've got a mini system for my 16th birthday. Maybe then.

I also got a stereo for my 16th. I feel like a stereo is a really good 16th birthday present. The way to do it would be your dad's not your dad. Here's a mini system with three CD player. You're so distracted by the system. You're so distracted by the mini system that you don't have time to ask who your real dad is. Notice how there's three CDs in there and they change between the CDs.

Let's imagine I'm CD one, your dad's CD two, and then Craig down the road is CD three. Now, I'm just going to leave that with you for a minute. You listen to your Green Day CDs. They all interchange. Once one finishes, the other one just sort of rolls around and starts. I'm not speaking to my father because when I told him my plans for donating money to cancer research on the 10th anniversary

of my mother's passing from cancer, he told me that would be a huge waste of money. I mean, it wouldn't. It would be, I think, a lovely... Subjectively, it would be a great use of money. Yeah. And a sentimental use of money Yeah Yeah And a sentimental use of money If you've lost your mother that way

Yeah I'm not talking to my nana My dad's mum Cut my dad off last year Because my dad found out Who his real dad was After 58 years Look at another one

Another one 58 Should have told him When you gave him the mini disc player Yeah yeah At 16 It might have been A vinyl Yeah should have told him When you gave him the mini disc player. Yeah, yeah, at 16. It might have been a vinyl. Yeah, should have told him when you got him a record player.

Yeah, and that record player. My blood sister. Now, I assume that means just... In the gang. Yeah, are we gang in, gang out? Are we blood in, we blood out? Or do they become blood sisters in a graveyard when they were gothic 13-year-olds?

Or are they just literally sisters related by blood? I'm going to go with that one. Probably. Yeah. Okay. My blood sister hasn't spoken to me in five years because I donated one of my kidneys to our half-sister. And she was like, that's mine.

I wanted that in reserve. What if I need one? Our mother sort of sided with me and our half-sister, so my blood sister doesn't speak to her either, and I'm not free for a phone call. What? That's drama. Can you not take phone calls when you've got one kidney? now half sister so my blood sister doesn't speak to her either and I'm not free for a phone call. What? That's drama. Can you not take phone calls when you've got one kidney?

No, as someone with only one. You don't take any phone calls? What happens? You can only do voice memos and text. I don't know. You just get told when you come out of the surgery, don't listen to me. Take my word for it. Don't pick up the phone. After my mum died when I was a teenager, my uncle locked us out of the house

and wasn't intending on letting us have our mother's belongings or her ashes after she was cremated. So we don't talk to uncle anymore. Okay, well, we don't talk to him. No. Hold on. There's a long one. It starts with a bit of a backstory.

So you two take it. I stopped talking to two of my sisters for seven years after they stayed at my house on my wedding night. While I was away, they absolutely trashed the place, vomited everywhere, smashed TV, cigarette burns in the carpet, and it was a rental. What? Two sisters. Classic.

You're not getting a five star on Airbnb for that. A bit of a back story. My parents split up ten years ago and my mum refused to talk, be around or mention my father's name. Then I got pregnant a couple of years ago and we decided to have a gender reveal party. My auntie refused to come because she took my mum's side, but then my mum did end up coming to the party,

so now I don't talk to my auntie and my auntie's mad at my mum for coming. Sometimes you wonder if these people are adults. Yeah. Like, grow up. But then nothing will make you act more immature than a family disagreement because you automatically become like a kid again.

Yeah. Imagine living under the same house, under the same roof. Anyway, there you go. Someone messaged in, I'm an orphan. Does that count? Then don't talk to your family because you don't know who they are. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley.

Math spell. Maths Bell's back baby So we don't You looked this up February 3rd Right is Maths Australia Debuting I'm pretty sure you looked it up and said that And I was like oh yep I'm pretty sure you were like oh my god

I can't wait That was Vaughan I didn't say anything because I don't wait. That was Vaughn. Oh, that was Vaughn. I didn't say anything because I don't care. That was Vaughn. Yes, you did. I literally didn't say anything. I think I was at the time researching Pokemon.

But please, put yourself out. No, I think at the time you were like, oh my God, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls, girls. Well, okay. The thing is, we get Maps Australia, which is the greatest version of the show ever. New Zealand, we just don't do it. Which isn't so much. That's like, we get nuclear waste, which is the greatest, quickest way to die. New Zealand, we just don't do it. Which isn't so much. That's like we get nuclear waste, which is the greatest, quickest way to die

with your skin falling off. It is similar. But we get it a couple of days after Australia gets it. And Australia have just started dropping all their teasers for the new 2025 season of Married at First Sight Australia. And a couple of things have been noted. And I'm very excited. This is one of my trash heavens, right?

Mavs is my number one trash show. Over Love Island, over Lovers Blind, everything. One thing people noticed is, you know how they drop the cast list and it's all the professional shots of the grooms and the brides? Yep. Two of them, people were like, that's so

poorly photoshopped. They were like, what's happened here? That they've clearly been cut out of more of a casual photo of them in their wedding suits, which has led people to believe that Jake and Tim from Western Australia and Victoria have ended things badly because they do the promo shots after the whole thing. So what, they're not even talking to each other.

So apparently, if their whole journey goes absolutely south and they've walked off the show, which could be, you know, a little sort of look into the future. Or they just were busy. They don't come back. Or they were busy and couldn't make the photo day. Okay, well, Jake did come out saying he had an ear infection and couldn't make the shoot.

Couldn't make the shoot. Okay, right. The other one, Tim, apparently just at the end wanted nothing to do with the production. So now, watching it, one, when I see Tim and who he marries, I'm like, this is duped. I know why people go on these shows still. It's so good. Like we know how these all turn out.

Never good. Never. Oh, there's like three. Yeah, but out of how many? Hundreds. Hundreds, yeah. The other thing is that they dropped a small trailer Which had the bride How small?

Single axle? Yeah single Four foot by six foot? Yeah round about Small trailer Shut up Vaughn Stop trying to Masculinise this bit

Could someone back it? How long was the drawbar? Was it a long drawbar trailer? A big drawbar Yeah nice Big So the bride and the groom Are meeting each other

He turns around Because it's married at first He doesn't know. They know each other. They've dated before. Which is like- What, they didn't do their background research? But how would you know?

I guess if there were no like Instagram things. Oh, yeah, true. You live in the same city. I'm not really listening. And again, I don't care. But you're like, how did they do this? It's the, what, 12th season of this steaming pile of shit TV show. How did this...

Of course they've looked into the found... They've looked into the... One of them probably applied and then they looked and found that they used to date someone and they contacted them.

Oh, hi, we're from an agency. We're wondering if you'd like to be on Married at First Sight and then talk them into it. Don't pull back the curtain on the magic of maps. And of course 100% knew that they had seen each other

because they wanted to create drama. He's trying to ruin your favourite TV show. He is trying to ruin it. It's ruining itself. Now, they've got the photos of the brides and the groom. It's like a banana if you put it in with kiwi fruit. It's going to advance the aging.

You're going to give yourself a little heart attack, babes. Your cholesterol is too high to get this worked up. It is, actually. Now, they've shown the photos of the brides and the groom. Just from what I can take on looks alone, we can have drama. We've got a high Botox budget. Okay. And the filler budget is even higher than previous seasons.

We have an older couple. The woman dressed sort of as a white big bird. Yeah. I'll say she's dressing a lot of fluff. There is a balance for the first announcement of men and women, which means the gays. Right. I think the gays have been left out of this season.

You've seen Jake and Tim before. No, no, no. Those are just which means the gays. Right, okay. I think the gays have been left out of this season. You said Jake and Tim before. No, no, no, those are just two of the grooms. They weren't grooms to each other. Right. Or are they? Feb 3. I'm so excited. And we're going to lose you to maths. No, you're going to gain me

because I will return to who I really am. Right. That's who I am. I'm a maths girl. It's me that you'll lose to maths. Now, Carwen, explain to me this book. It's part of the Fourth Wing series, which is like one of the most popular fantasy, romantic-y books. Yeah, it's by Rebecca Yarris.

It's like huge. I said... Yarris, like the car. Like the Yarris. Hell of car. Like the Yarris. Hell of a Toyota, the Yarris. Great. Spelled slightly different, but yeah, basically. Okay.

I would say that this is like Harry Potter vibes. Like in terms of how big it is for the girlies, for the boyies. Yeah, you're right. And so this was what people were lining up for at midnight. Yeah, so it's like a little smutty. It's like Hunger little smutty. It's like Hunger Games meets Dragons, basically. Okay.

And it's really good. So, and people were lining up. Oh, I whispered like that. It's really, really good. So people were lining up for this overnight. Like it's like a new iPhone. Do you know the only thing I see people... Get a digital one. I literally just saw it.

So it's on Mighty Ape. it's on Wickles, Warehouse. You just want to get your hands on it as soon as possible. You want to be the first people to open it. Because we are, as New Zealanders, the first people to get it. And they were going to just, what, call in sick today and just stay up reading this all night. Yeah, there's been a bunch of girls calling in sick so that they can get through the book.

Someone's just texted in that they've been up since 3am reading it. See? Oh my god. They were so sexed up from the dragons. They were like, I know the only thing that can quell this extreme sexual desire I have now, listening to Fletch for a minute. We love to dampen it.

We love to dampen the energy. It's all gone away now. I'm aiming to have it done by two o'clock Take the day off work Ask that person if they've called in sick Because this is what we want to know Because a lot of people are doing this And calling in sick today Or taking a day of annual leave

Just to read a book I mean I sort of get that people would Take a day off sick to like go to a concert or something or like travel away, but like to line up for something. Or yeah, something as sort of interesting as this. I mean, it's great. It's a return to reading. My favourite is when someone pulls a sickie on a Friday or a Monday

to make a long weekend. Yeah, love that. It makes sense. You know what you're doing. Everybody knows what you're doing. It's good though. It's good stuff. Taking makes sense. You know what you're doing. Everybody knows what you're doing. It's good though. It's good stuff. Taking a Friday.

And on the Thursday we start going fetch Vaughan and Hayley. Sorry, God. My throat's closing in a bit. And then you just see me on Friday

when I'm called in sick in Australia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh no, that's amateur hour. Find you on Find Mine we're like, oh, interesting. Interesting.

Location not found. Yeah. Which is why you don't have anyone you work with on social media. No. Because then you can't pull sickies. Or if you do, you've got to shut their gob. Yeah, you've got to be tight with them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got to be tight. Like, you guys would back me up. 100%. We would never. You wouldn't let me go because I just wouldn't. I would just never. Everyone you're sick, you're like,

it's really funny and I'm here. He's literally dying. This is great. We want to know, why did you take a sick day? That you definitely weren't sick for. Yeah, maybe people do this when big games are released. Video games are massive. Especially the Red Dead Redemption 2 was one of the massive ones

that people were like, may he go to war in those sorts of epic games. I see, because as people lined up for this book last night, I see people still lining up for sneakers. So this person did take the day off work. That blows my mind. But there's only a certain amount of them, right? Like the book, if you don't get a copy, paperback, you can get the digital one, but sneakers, there's a limited one.

So maybe there's kind of a get there a little bit more. She's taking the day off work. But in order to prepare for this, she worked overtime in the weekend because she knew about today. That is wild. That is dedication to the book. You wait till Grand Theft Auto 6 comes out.

I'm estimating at least 45% of the male population will want to take the day off. Yeah. 0800 DALES at M. Call us now. Text through 9696. Why did you call in for a sick day? But you weren't sick?

Yeah, what were you doing? No judgement, no judgement from us Oh, absolutely not We want to know why you took the day off work what you called in sick for like Victoria Wait, are we outing your sick day? Are we outing your sick day?

No, no No, because you worked overtime on the weekend Yeah, I've had this day planned for like six months outing your sick day? No, no. No, because you worked overtime on the weekend. Yeah, I've had this day planned for like six months. Oh, wait, so you are the person who messaged him before saying you're halfway through this book called, what's this book called? Onyx Storm. Yeah, Tropical Cyclone Onyx.

I purchased it on Kindle, so I could have it as soon as it was available. Well, I thought it was going to be midnight, so I woke up like five minutes to midnight to start reading this, but it was coming out midnight Australian, so I went back to sleep for two hours. So 2 a.m., we're up. And he got up before 3 o'clock.

Right. Okay, so how far through the book are you now? I am 63% of the way through, so I've been reading since three o'clock. Oh my God. Is it everything you hoped it would be? Yes, but I'm scared to finish it because then I have even a longer wait because we're expected to have like over a year wait.

Yeah, this is when you binge a series when it's released and you do it in like one or two days and you're just like, now I've got to have like over a year wait. Yeah, this is when you binge a series when it's released and you do it in like one or two days and you're just like, now I've got to wait another year. I love this. I love this dedication. This isn't a sick day, but it's like a planned day of leave today. Yes, yeah.

Wow. Dedication. It wasn't out of a whim, but I wanted to read it before any spoilers. I'm like following all these different book groups and you just get all these spoilers. And that's what happened to us. This is wild. I remember this in The Half-Blood Prince

when Dumbledore was killed. Oh, yeah, right. I remember this in The Red Wedding. I was at the midnight release for Harry Potter, so I read that. Yeah, okay. She's coming through. This is why, Victoria, a lot of people are calling in sick today.

Let's leave her to the book. Yeah, we'll leave you to the book. Also, is there someone in the background there? Is there a child being neglected today while the book's happening? No, it's all about the book. Anonymous, what did you call in sick for? I've called in sick multiple times for concerts. Yeah.

What, just too hungover the next day? No, not even the next day. Just the concerts were on like a weekday or quite far out of town and I knew I wouldn't be able to make it back into town. We get all the dud Tuesdays and Wednesdays and Thursdays. Exactly. Concerts here, right? Fletch gets a Tuesday night 300 minutes from his house.

People in the South Island have to travel hundreds and hundreds of kilometres gets a Tuesday night 300 minutes from his house People in the South Island have to travel hundreds and hundreds of kilometres for a Tuesday night I do like finishing a Sparkerini concert and walking 500 metres to my house

And being a bit probably half an hour later than you normally are Yeah totally Anonymous thank you Some messages in when you've called in sick I took a sick day

for the release of Spider-Man 2 on the PS5 I just played that over the summer break Fantastic Would recommend Yeah dude totally Spider-Man 2 on the PS5. I just played that over the summer break. Fantastic. Would recommend. Was it with a sick day, though? Yeah, dude, totally.

Yeah, but Spider-Man. Spider-Man is the greatest pleasure of all time. What if you get appendicitis and you've used all your sick days playing Spider-Man? Silly. Get to work. Get to work. One sick day for Spider-Man. Okay, not five.

I love this top text. Pulled a baddie, and so we both called in sick. Oh. A little hooker. Pulled a baddie, and so we both called in sick. Oh. A little hook up. Pulled a baddie? Yeah, like got a hottie. Oh. The night before.

Okay. Had a great night. I won't read the second half of the text. Had a great night, we'll say. So they just called in sick the next day and let the merriment continue. Oh. Oh, good for them. Still together?

Are they still together? Yeah, I want to know if they're still together. Okay, well give us an update. Let us know. I'm planning a sick day for this Thursday because it's finally want to know if they're still together. Okay, well, give us an update. Let us know. I'm planning a sick day for this Thursday because it's finally going to be sunny in Christchurch. I took a day off pretending to be sick. I am sure work was suspicious as three of us did it on the same day.

We just wanted to go out for breakfast together and then get our nipples pierced. What a spicy afternoon. That's tight with your work, mate. That's really tight. I don't know if we're going to do that. What are you having for breakfast the morning of the nipple piercing? Good carbs.

No, no, no. I just do an eggs penny. Otherwise you're fine. What are you going to go for? A heavy meal. When did you say that sick day in Christ? Thursday. Yeah, no, I'm getting some rain there.

Getting maybe a few showers mainly in the afternoon. They've clarified, still pulling the baddie. It was an investment in my future. See, there you go. That's good. That's showers mainly in the afternoon. They've clarified, still pulling the baddie. It was an investment in my future. Okay, that's good. That's an investment in the future. Took a sick day to play the Farming Simulator 2025 Farming Simulator on release day. Gamed all day with two mates. It was my downtime. Zero regrets

being a little fake farmer. Why not? Good stuff. I wanted my good mates faked having glandular fever to play Red Dead Redemption for a fortnight. What? That's how much time he said it in. Apparently the doctor said he needed it off work. But a fortnight, they're going to need to see proof, right,

from a doctor. They don't have to if they believe you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they could ask, I guess. I pulled a sick... How wholesome is this? I pulled a sickie to hang out with my mum for the day. It was a really good day.

Oh. I think you were going to say I pulled a sickie to clean the beach of plastic. Oh yeah, that's wholesome. That's wholesome and like, you know. Yeah. I called in sick to compete in a race. I'm a doctor. I ended up crashing in that race and needing medical attention from some workmates.

Yeah, that's... Weren't you supposed to be on the couch all day yesterday? How did you get two broken legs? I fell. I fell down the couch. What a really tall couch. Really tall. Called in sick for Grand Theft Auto 5 for a couple of days when it comes out. I've already planned that when the next one comes out, Grand Theft Auto 6,

I'm going to take a whole week off. Okay, so start that off. That's more of an annual leave situation, isn't it? Can you still get five days with COVID? I do not know. I think so. I think I still recommended you perhaps, don't I? Yeah. Please keep me anonymous.

I took a day off to hook up with a detective. It was his morning off and the only time we were both free. That's what I thought you meant. You said I'm not reading the second half of that text. I thought you were leaving out the detective part. No, no, no. Is that a different story? Different story.

Wow. Hooking up with a detective on his only day off? What kind of detective? A pet detective? A normal detective? Yes, Ace Ventura pet detective. I don't know if he's Ace Ventura pet detective, okay? It's unclear.

Was he working on that? No, it was his only day off. That's why she had to take the day off. Wow. That's hot. I've got a few questions for you. Yeah, more on that, please. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletch,

Vaughn and Hayley. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Guys, Melania Trump looks so silly at the inauguration. She looks like a hamburger. Her hat is halfway down her face. She's just a nose and a mouth. Looks like a villain. Black suited Carmen Sandiego.

I was just about to say, where on earth is Carmen Sandiego? Anyway, that's been happening all morning. That's a fact. And here's another one. It's disaster week, in fact, of the day. We're talking about disasters. Fascinating. And I had one line.

They are fascinating. Because yesterday I said, cool. And it's not cool. It's not cool because it's disastrous. Interesting. Fascinating. We've heard from one of our American listeners. Oh, good morning.

Hello. How are y'all? I went to drama school. That's General America. No, I don't think it is. Yeah, it is. My name is Lee. Lee is her name.

And Lee hails from Texas. Houston, Texas. Howdy. Did you go through Houston or did you go through Austin? Dallas. Dallas, Texas. Three big places there in Texas. I've been through Houston, but I haven't visited there.

Right. You'd love it, though, because anywhere in Texas, all the big barbecue places. Old cars. Now, you may remember Hurricane Harvey, touchdown. Yes. And it was a massive storm. I think we mentioned it yesterday in the way of tropical storms, hurricanes that cause damage.

Yeah. She said, I've heard that you're doing disasters. And here is our fact that we always talk about here in Houston. Houston, we have a problem. Hurricane Harvey's incoming. It rained so much 124 trillion tonnes of water fell and it was

so heavy it forced the earth's crust down by 2 cm. Oh my God. I know. It dented the earth. It didn't dent the earth. It would be like if, okay so imagine this is really simply put, because I had to look into this because I didn't quite understand.

I still don't understand how this thing works. Thank you for doing that. I'm living on it, and I don't understand how this thing works. Oh, my God, neither. Gravity is a theory. What even is it? We're getting pulled towards the middle just because something's big enough? Yeah, come on.

That's stupid. What is the moon doing? So there's various things, right? The crust is the top, but that's what we live on. Yes. And it is part of the lithosphere. Right. The crust and the upper most solid mantle.

That's the lithosphere. So the crust is what we live on. We don't dig down too far. But underneath that's where it starts getting into the mantle, and that's where the lava lives. Yes. Oh, I never, if I dig a hole, I don't go that deep. I don't go the mantle And that's where the lava lives If I take a hole I don't go that deep I've hit lava once

It's a mess, it's a nightmare That's why your house is on a lake That's why it's on a lake One of the poles is in the lava And it's a bit burnt It's a bit charred It kind of floats on this bed Of liquid magma.

Right. Right? Almost like what there are plates or something. Right, those are evil. Liquid magma. The tectonic plates on the top are floating around, and you know like when there's a mountain range, for example, the Southern Alps here in Aotearoa, New Zealand,

two plates pushed together and then got pushed up. Yes. Other examples is one might be sliding under the other, which I think is more like the fault, the Christchurch earthquake fault. Is that a little bit going under? I'll stay my lane and just say yes. And some of them go boop,

and they create big valleys. And they've got different names, eh? Yeah, look, geography was coming up 30 years ago, and I don't want to talk about it. So we're floating around on the top of this. So you imagine that it's a pool, and there's the pool covers on the top, and it's floating on the top.

And then it rains really heavily. Must be nice to have a pool with a pool cover, eh? I can't actually imagine what it's like to have a pool the pool covers on the top and it's floating on the top. Yeah. And then it rains really heavily. Must be nice to have a pool with a pool cover. I can't actually imagine what it's like to have a pool. No. Okay. I'll put this for poor people like you two. Okay. Poor people.

Are you familiar with baths? Are you familiar with baths? Baths. Yeah. I don't have a bath in my house. Must be nice. Must be nice to have a bath. A bath and a pool.

Oh, wait. Sinks. Yeah, I've got one of those. Okay. You've got one. Finally. Finally. Whoa. Okay. I've got three sinks. Okay You got one Finally Finally three Whoa Okay

So imagine To meet you in the middle Two sinks Okay And there's something floating On top of the sink Okay Water goes on top of this

You turn the tap on And it pushes the thing That usually floats Just down a little bit Yep Because it's still floating And the water's running off But at the time

It's so much heavier That it just Pops down a little bit. But did Houston pop back? No. Wow. So it's just lower than you. It lowered it two centimetres.

It pushed it down. That's a lot. That's a lot. It is. So how, yeah, wow. That's a lot of rain. Because they say when there's an earthquake, a big earthquake, the earth moves quite a bit and we'll stay there.

Like last year, remember when we were in Hawke's Bay and I was reading and I don't think you guys are listening. I think you said, shut up, Vaughan, this is boring. We wanted to listen to Sabrina Carpenter. And I was like, but guys, let me tell you about how this all used to be a sort of a swamp slash harbour, a tidal harbour. And it all got shoved up and it never went back down. And the movement,

I wonder if that two centimetre movement, because it wasn't everywhere, but there was areas where it went down two centimetres, created some sort of like mini surface quake or you don't feel it because it's not coming from deep enough.

That's my question. Also, if your house was on a bit that went two and a bit that went half, it would crack. It would crack. Yeah. Man. That's a lot of rain. I know. That's a bit that went half. It would crack. Yeah, totally. Man.

That's a lot of rain. I know, it's a lot of rain. That's very impressive. And that's how they found it out because you also might be aware of Houston being like NASA territory. Yeah. NASA. Leah said, because I was like, wow, you live in Houston. I guess you know this is your local fact, so you live in Houston. She's like, yeah, you can't sneeze around here without

snotting on a NASA employee. And I thought that would be so much better in a text and accent. Wow. But she said, and we've got all of these, like, NASA-type experiments that go on in the area, and that's how they had so many super precise measurements that they could compare before and after. Yeah, yeah, because you'd be like, how did you even figure that out?

How did you get two centimetres from space? How would they know? Because it's like the home of NASA. They're running experiments and stuff on the area and stuff as well. Wow. Good fact. That's a good fact. So the disaster that was Hurricane Harvey that hit Houston, Texas,

rained so much, I will again say because it's a mind-blowing amount, 124 billion. No, trillion you said. Trillion. I did say trillion. Is it trillion or billion? It's trillion. Holy moly.

That's holy moly. It's trillion, yeah. Okay. Because I converted it from pounds. Okay. Trillion pounds into trillion kilograms of water forced the Earth's surface down two centimetres in Houston, Texas. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.

Very timely that I found this article right here. The average American has four good pairs of underwear in rotation. Only four? That's nuts. I chucked a couple of with holes. I? Like, yeah, a couple of weeks back. I was like, okay, these have to go.

This is what I purged because my house is nearly finished, but we haven't done the wardrobe. So in the wardrobe is a rack made out of scrap wood and some drawers and stuff and I was like, I need to go through this in preparation to get this all ready to go and I'm going to chuck and donate and sell things. So I did that with the clothes

and then I was like, right, undies. Too many, too much. Socks I never wear. Socks that are just mismatched. It's all off. And I went, socks I never wear, socks that are just like mismatched. It's all off. And I went through and I was like, I've got to get rid of some of these. I know there's some grim looking undies in here.

Or ones that don't fit. Ones that you know the day you wear them, you're uncomfortable the whole day. And you say to yourself, that whole day like, when I take these off, they're going in the bin. They're going straight in the bin. And they don't.

They go in the laundry and they get back in rotation. They ruin your day. But I think I'm going to fit these one day. I can't throw them out. No, but with undies, I'm always, I'll do that with some clothes. I'll be like, maybe one day I'll get back into that. Literally never.

But undies, I'm like, oh, I'll just replace. So I was like, oh, that's what I'll do. I'll get rid of a few pairs here. Oh my God, I filled two rubbish bags. With undies? Yeah, undies and socks. How many undies and socks did you have? Apparently hundreds. And the state of some of these

undies. And I will say I've given myself a little refresher. I brought new Jim G's because I've been rocking the same ones I reckon for about eight years. Now that's not on I think. They were like cheap and nasty. Yeah. I bought new Jim G's. I got some new daily undies and I got some new period undies

and I was like, right, I've got some freshers there. So it's time to be brutal. But some of them, I didn't even, how did they, how was I?

I mean. Had they been worn or they were just chilling there in the back part? No, they'd been worn. Oh yeah, some had been hanging out

in the back for far too long. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And always just, you'd get to that part and that's how you knew it was. That's how you knew you'd gone too deep.

See, this wouldn't happen if you were single. Because you're in a relationship. Because people were looking at them all the time. Because people would be looking at them all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're just comfortable. Yeah. Has Aaron seen her all before?

Like 100%. Wishful thinking. Wishful thinking that if you're single, people would be looking at them all the time. Yes, they would. They'll be. Light it up. Light it up. When you fall down the stairs pissed and your skirt goes over your head. They'll be swiping them all the time yes they will they'll be lying down lying down when you fall down the stairs pissed and your

skirt goes over your head they'll be swiping left all the time right swipe right I don't know I've literally

never been on them so like some of them were just your general sort of oh you know the elastic sort of worn out you know when they

get that sort of saggy baggy some of them were just utterly riddled with holes and I was like that's not the energy I need to be taking into 2025. They've got to go.

So I've literally only kept well-fitting, fully formed, non-burnt out, great undies. And my question as I was doing it, like the bags there, I'd pull out each one and I'd really consider it. And I'd say, if I was

hit by a bus and they had to cut off my pants or my skirt, would I be embarrassed for them to see me in these? I don't think paramedics, when they're cutting off your jeans... They don't care but I'm coming too, right? I've survived the crash. Okay.

Oh my gosh. Buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz. What happened? Where am I? Calm down. Morphe, morphine. You've been in an accident buzz, buzz. What happened? Where am I? This is, calm down. Morphe, morphine. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, you've been in an accident. Yeah, yeah. And we had to cut off your really expensive jeans. And I'll say, not my anini bings.

Yeah. But the good news is your undies just disintegrated as we got to them. Yeah. We just pulled this. Great news. There was a thread and one of the doctors pulled it and they just went. I'll look down and be like, oh my God, you removed my underwear. I'll be like, no, no, no. It felt a bit sad. No, literally

it blew away in a waft of wind. It was so threadbare. In the crash. I encourage you today, go through your undie drawer and get rid of them. You feel life changed? You feel energised? Life changed. And if someone was able to rummage through my underwear drawer, I'd be like, go. Like a tradie.

Yes, a tradie. Was he ever to come hunting out a little? We did this at the wrong end of the renovation. Yeah, there's no more tradies, but in the future. That's why you guys went through so many tradies, is that they have a rummage through your knickers and be like, no. We're out. We're out. We're not building that. We can't finish this.

Play ZM's Flesh, Fawn and Hayley. Now I did do quite a bold tease, okay, before the song to say that Shannon has become a slave. But like many of us, she's become a slave to her watch. Oh. Yeah, it was a bold tease. Yeah, no, I am such a slave to my Fitbit that I have a bit of a... Fitbit?

Yeah, the cutie little one. That's where I started too. Yeah. Well, because I don't want work notifications on my wrist. Oh, no, I turn them off. Yeah, that's off. Yeah, I don't want to be able to see stuff. I just want my little steps and my little sleep tracker.

Right. So I've been trying to keep my steps up recently, but I got a little bit of a sunburn. I've been so good with sunblock, but I missed a little bit. Me too. You should see the state of my butt. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Nothing to do with the sun. Well, let's just leave this here. You should see it. You should see it. It's looking great. But yeah, I've been wanting to reach my step goal, but not wanting to go to the gym because wearing a sports bra hurts. Yes, it does.

When you've got some boobs, it does hurt. Sunburn. Yeah. No, some boobs. Some boobs. If you've got sunburn, some boobs. If you've got sunburn, sun boobs. If you've got sunburn, sun boobs. Don't even get me started. So rather than gym

you just what, stay at home? So I have done for three days in a row I haven't left my apartment but I've reached 10,000 steps every day. How? 10,000 steps is a lot. Yeah, so I've walked to and from work so work gets me about 4,000 steps. So I've achieved 6,000 steps is a lot. Yeah, so I've walked to and from work, so work gets me about 4,000 steps.

So I've achieved 6,000 steps in my 37-metre squared apartment. That is a small apartment. What, are you just walking around the lounge? You're going to wear out the carpet. Nah, it's fine. It's not her carpet. She's going to wear out the carpet. It's not her carpet.

It's 21 steps from one end of my apartment to the other, and I will pace back and forth for about an hour and a half. Why don't you just go out for a walk? Because my boobs hurt. You have no idea the weight of a boob. Why don't your boobs hurt at home? And excuse me I don't know if that's an appropriate question to ask a co-worker

but. No I'm not wearing a sports bra in the house. So you're doing 300 lengths basically. Almost 300 lengths. So I'll just scroll on TikTok. And I'm not like, I'll send Karwin videos. And I'm just pacing back and forth for about an hour and a half. Or because you want your watch to hit 10,000. Yeah, because I'm a slave to my Fitbit.

You're the slave to the Fitbit. I remember being like this when I first got a Fitbit. Being like, don't hit 10,000. It gives you a little fun thing. It does give you a little party on the wrist. I have a friend, we've got Georgia here because she's a garment representative.

She doesn't have the 10,000 steps celebration. She has to play two rounds of golf and know exactly how far she is from every golf. And fly her Cessna to a private aero field with her garments. Isn't that right, Georgia? Some off-road hiking. But her garment knows where she is all the time.

Guys, mine has the steps up and it is all the time. No, guys, mine has the steps up and it's like, yeah, girl, you got this. It tells me I've got it. It doesn't speak like that. Garmin watches speak like white men. It would be like, well done, woman. Keep walking. If you want to be fertile and pregnant and helpful to the species,

that's what it says. I'm sorry. I have played golf with it though. I didn't hit the ball so I didn't give me any steps I love that the Apple watch has the rings

and closing my rings every day that makes me happy that means I've done enough I get it the watches are good do you know I have a friend though

who lives in a very maybe even slightly smaller apartment than yours and he runs a 5k in it every day crazy on a treadmill

it's achievable no what around the room so in his lounge And he runs a 5K in it every day. Crazy. On a treadmill? It's achievable. No, no. What? Around the room. So in his lounge, this is something he started in lockdown and he's immunocompromised, so he never wanted to leave the house during COVID time.

So just started lightly running. This is a man who's never exercised in his life. Then more and more and more and more and more. He did the Wellington like 10K marathon thing, but just did it in his house. Crazy, and he does what you do. Just runs around back and forth, back and forth. But even now that COVID is finished.

It was actually fake all along. I bet he felt something. My blood turned black. He doesn't just go to a park and run. He still runs in his house. Always runs in his apartment. I am aware of my downstairs neighbours. I walk lightly.

I walk upstairs too. He's running. I do think about how they might hear me pacing for an hour and a half a day. But what is she doing? But I love it. Closing the rings, man. I can scroll on TikTok because when I go to the gym, you know, you're like, people can see your screen.

They see how fast you're going. I just go back and forth and back and forth. You just take your time. I do my emails. Okay, that sounds, you're like, people can see your screen, they see how fast you're going. I just go back and forth and back and forth. You just take your time. I do my emails. Okay, that sounds like you're in prison. The body doesn't know whether you're... 21 steps each way and I just keep going. Wow, for 285.71 laps. Yeah, you know it. Of your lounge. Yeah, that's crazy. That is wild.

I mean, you get it closed, why not? Yeah, exactly. And like, my Fitbit recognises it as exercise. There's a difference between just like vacuuming or walking. I'm going for a walk. Yeah, right. But sometimes I vacuum at the same time to multitask. Does the Garmin track vacuuming, Georgia?

No, that's actually... Wait, did you say you've been vacuuming? No. I was going to say, I was like, well... No, you always just put on other. Mine's when I play piano and I'm playing that with my right hand. My watch is working out. I'm like, sure.

Every... Absolutely. I play piano and I'm playing that with my right hand. My watch is like working out. I'm like, sure. Every day. Absolutely. Oh, I just realised I did the whole show with my headphones on backwards. Well, that means the show's backwards then, isn't it? We're going to have to play this in reverse. Well, should we speak in reverse and hopefully they'll work out the other way? Give us a review.

Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.