ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 22nd September 2023

Episode Date: September 21, 2023

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The ZM Podcast Network. The Fletch Vaughan and Hayley Big Pod. Treat yourself to McCafe coffee with my Macca's rewards. Good morning, welcome to the show, Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Happy Friday. Happy Friday. Happy. Can you, Vaughan, can you make the zoom? Yeah, Vaughan, yeah.

Thank you. I was looking at your crotch there. Good crotch. Oh, yeah, no, I was just adjusting my levels because I'm in charge of the desk here. Do you want me to control the show today? Because I can. It'll be fun. You cannot. You can control your levels. You can't control anything else.

You could do the show on your own. No, you have to give me the controls. You could do the show on your own because we're keen to pop off. We're heading to the airport. You guys are off to Brisbane to support the Warriors. No. That's right. Melbourne.

Up the Waz. Although we did talk about going to a pub. We might find a pub and watch the Waz. The Waz. Melbourne. Up the wards. Although we did talk about going to a pub. We might find a pub and watch the wards. To watch the wards. Absolutely. And man, it is, oh, it might be hard in Melbourne. You know, they don't like, they're all about AFL. Yeah, they are.

Yeah, last time I was there, there was an All Blacks vs Wallabies game and I had to ask the pub to put the game on. Oh yeah, rugby is below rugby league in Melbourne when it comes to sports they care about. Most definitely. But up the Waz, guys, I just want to give, I feel like I maybe haven't been up in the Waz as much or nearly enough this week. Massive game tomorrow night. It's late night. It's 10 to 10 that it plays in New Zealand time.

Yeah, and you can listen on Sky Sport 9 as well. 10 to 10, Waz versus the Broncos. ACC commentators Di Henwood and Mania Stewart oh yeah Di is I mean Di and Mania are a dynamic duo but Di sure knows

his rugby leg I'm always impressed with that man deep well of knowledge always great to listen to the ACC commentary support the lads

coming up on the show silly little poll we all do this at concerts we record videos. Yeah. Some people have their phone up every song. I know.

But how often do you actually watch those videos back? Just recently I watched a video back and realised I'd never watched it ever again. And that was like nine years ago. It was a Queen concert and I was like, oh yeah, watching it back. I was like, stupid taking these videos. I know because then you're just not present in the moment, are you? Well, that's today's question for Silly Little Pole. Do you re-watch your old concert videos?

We'll delve into that soon on the show. But next. I've got a bit of a study about what we share. And the majority of people absolutely don't mind doing something for a bit of a discount. You know, mate, a bargain. Yeah, easily. bit of a discount. You know, mate, a bargain. A bargain? Yeah, easily. I love a bargain. Play.

ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. Go on, I've got a lot of stats here for you. A lot of numbers. Brace yourself. There was a study out of America looking at how much we trust AI. I still don't get it. I definitely don't trust that.

Stephen Fry is suing Open AI because he reckons his voice got... Was it Open AI that he... Because he reckons that listening to the Harry Potter audiobook that he read and it was enough, it's stolen his voice. Holy! Yeah.

Well, that's a whole part of what the strikes are about at the moment, right? Yeah. That they can use your likeness. Yeah, massive. Willy nilly. And all extras in movies will be AI. And they'll just duplicate you. Yeah.

It's a bit weird. So I don't really know what AI does, what it is. And 46 of no, 54% of Americans agree. They don't really, we don't really understand it. However, a lot of people are still using it. In America, people, a lot of people are happy

to let AI auto-order household items when they're running low. So I guess that would be your supermarket shopping. Maybe they use that over there a little bit more than us. Making reservations on their behalf. Choosing their clothes. Is that like some kind of Alexa

thing? Or Siri, you just say Hey Siri, check the pantry. Book me a reservation. Oh my God, because there are some fridges that have cameras and they tell you when you're low on yogurt. And then they just can't order it. But you're telling it, so that's not AI. I reckon AI would work out every month.

It goes through what you've ordered online from previous shopping and it's like, oh, every month they need more toilet paper. Yeah, right. And so it would just do it automatically. Because otherwise, because I remember, do you remember that? I really like this idea, but some people were a bit weirded out about it. But there was a button with a battery in it, and it was connected to your Wi-Fi, and it was in your wash, in your laundry.

And when you needed more laundry detergent, you just pushed the button and it self-ordered it through your Wi-Fi. Oh, weird. I just want those buttons all around my house. Yeah, right. We need that. We need that. We need that.

Chocolate button. It's just like emergency. Like when you're in a hospital and they say press the button three times in an emergency. Yes, and it just Uber Eats you your favorite block of Whittaker's. Yeah. Now we're talking. So millennials are the most concerned with AI privacy. 72% of millennials are like,

hang on, why are we giving out information while baby boomers are the least concerned? Because they're just like, sure, you can have this. That's why they're on the front page of the Herald every day. So they've taken $100,000 out of my account. I know, exactly. He told me he loved me.

So millennials are, but however, even told me he loved me. So millennials, but however, even though we're the most concerned, millennials, we're the most willing to hand over details to an AI thing like online, filling in forms,

birth date, full name, name of spouse and partner, email address, name of children, even social security numbers or like IRD numbers. Just to get a 5% discount on our first order.

Yeah, a lot of people, 87% of people are doing it as an exchange for like, enter your details here and then we'll send you 5%. Because that would be just like your shopping website and they go sign up for this and get 10% off. I did that literally yesterday. I hate it when you go to buy something and then you see that they give you a 5% or a 10% off

for a first order and you fill it all out and they don't email you the code and you're like, I need to buy this now. Where the code at? Where the code at? But that's how they get you. They're like, hey, it's cheaper today. Do it, 10%.

I love a little discount. Be careful with your personal info. I mean, we're all screwed anyway, right? We've been on all these social media apps for the last forever. There is like nothing you cannot find out about me. Do you know what I mean? Exactly, yeah. On the internet.

Yeah. Yeah, but you keep sending the Facebook help desk daily nudes as well, being like, this is what I look like today, this is what I look like today. They need to know, my ever-changing body. This is what's up. They need to be up with that. Hey, Facebook help desk, this is what's up. So you know, guys, this is what we're working with today. They need to know. My ever-changing body. They need to be up with that. Hey, Facebook help desk. This is what's up.

So you know, guys, this is what we're working with today. This is what we're working with. Eleven and a half years ago on the 6th of February 2012 at approximately 3.30 in the afternoon,

I became a father. I remember this. For the first time. Yeah. To Indiana Harper-Smith, who I love dearly. It's emotional, eh? It's emotional. I'm this. For the first time. Yeah. To Indiana Harper-Smith, who I love dearly. That's emotional, huh? That's emotional.

I got, last night, it got me. I had a couple of margaritas, and I tell you what, it got me. Oh, my. Oh, my God. Well, it's been an emotional week, hasn't it? Well, Indy's gone to the longest camp she's ever gone to. She's been away from home, but she's always been with, like, grandparents. Yes, yeah, yeah.

In school holidays, she'll go to my parents' place for a week, and she'll go spend a few days at Sade's mum's place. And this week, she's been on sports camp, which she left on Monday, and she gets back this afternoon. Massive long camp. Crazy long days playing sports. That's four nights, hon. Yeah. That's not that long.

It's the longest I've never talked to her. Like, even if I've been away or she's been away, we would talk all the time. Now, for her 11th birthday, I got her a cell phone, we got her a cell phone so we could stay in touch in these sorts of situations. The cell phone of which she's taken and is on and working because I can go and find my friends and see her live location.

So she's ignoring you and not messaging you back. Well, I don't know if she's ignoring me. I don't know if she's ignoring. Let's not say ignoring. She is. But it has been... It's embarrassing, Dad.

So the last message I got from her was on Monday night. Yeah. And it said... Yeah, we talked about how she was... part of this camp was like, because it's at a Christian camp. Jar bless. Jar bless.

Jar bless. It's some sort of Christian quiz. And I said on Monday at 5.54 PM, how's it going, Indiana, child of Christ? And she didn't reply for five hours. Five hours, late night, 10 AM, how's it going, Indiana, child of Christ? And she didn't reply for five hours. Five hours, late night, 10pm, she said, I'm going to bed night, good night, XX. Well, that's cute. That was the last time I heard from her. Look at this.

That's the last time I heard from her. And now I look like desperate dad because look how many unanswered messages I've sent. Oh, and a heart. Tuesday. Oh, my God. Tuesday, yo, how's it going? Because I'm cool. I'm cool. I can say yo. I don't know if anyone else is saying yo, but I'll do Tuesday. Oh, my God. Tuesday. Yo, how's it going? Because I'm cool. I'm cool.

I can say yo. I don't know if anyone else is saying yo, but I'll do it. No, don't. Don't say yo. Wednesday. Unanswered. Wednesday. Heart emoji.

That's all I said. I wouldn't have known. I'm thinking about her. Yesterday. Thursday. Oh, babe. Thursday, 8, 10 p.m. So I've left that a day and almost two days.

Love you, buddy. Hope camp's been fun. Unanswered. Oh, buddy. Dude, does she have read receipts on? Like, can you see if she's read that? No. You should turn them on her phone.

Yeah. She might be out of service. She might be. She's not out of service. She's not out of service. She's not out of service. Because she messaged when she first got there. Yeah, because you can see on Find Friends,

if you're on your phone, it says now. It's like Hayley Jane Sprower's here now. Well, maybe she's met a boy. I beg your pardon? Maybe she's met a boy. Well, maybe here and there they go to this drink, having a few drinks. Yeah, when I was 11, someone came over to my house,

they brought their sleeping bag, and in their sleeping bag was one of those purple... Gowanas. Gowanas. Bloody Christabel. Christabel went over and I was like, what are you doing? What are you doing?

She's like, let's drink it. So she was, she put the key in the door and unlocked your alcohol problem. Maybe. Maybe. I mean, the room in the house was always there. Producer Jared has asked, maybe she's run out of her text 2000. Oh, yeah.

20 cents a text should be up. Excuse me, Jared. I do quite well for myself. My daughter's on an unlimited plan. Oh, wow. Good God. How's the other half live? Not even I'm on one of those.

No. Wow. She's very special. Wow. Oh, my God. Dad, this is it. This is just the age. I hate this very special. Wow. Oh my God. Dad, this is it. This is just the age. I hate this.

I hate it. I hate it. She still loves you. She's going to ask you. She'll come back to you. Yeah, but only when she's like mid-twenties. I shunned my parents for a couple of years.

Don't shun me for a couple of years. No, no, no. Then we became great friends and now we have a beautiful relationship. Unshun me. I want to be unshunned. It's part of being a young woman. Let me tell you, this, no. Then we became great friends and now we have a beautiful relationship. Unshun me. I want to be unshunned. It's part of being a young woman. Let me tell you, this is nothing.

You've got to harden the effort. Oh, you've got to harden up. Yeah, you do. You've got to harden up because shit's going to get crazy. After a couple of margaritas and a duck aisle and ice cream, which I've, Fletch, okay, this is why I don't live in the city. You've got ice cream places all around you. I know, I know I do.

How are you not constantly eating ice cream? I know I do. Yeah, they're everywhere. Oh my God. Talk about temptation. We walked past and then I was like, no, and went back and got an ice cream. And then I was having an ice cream

and there was like some young university aged girls and I was looking at them and I was like, my daughter is so close to that age. And then they looked at me and they must've been like, why has that guy got tears in his eyes and he's looking at us? So I wholeheartedly apologise. And if you were like first year uni students

watching a sad old man licking his triple scoop, he was having a triple scoop. I'm having a tough day. I am in the middle of an emotional breakdown. Wow. Okay. And I'm here for, we're here for a day.

Oh God. I was a young woman, and I just know it's going to get so much worse for him. I know. And we haven't even touched it on August. That's going to be. Oh, she's a Hayley Sproul. Yeah, exactly. Sorry, she is.

I'm going to feel like a caravan in a hurricane when that woman becomes a woman. Today's sillyilly Little Pole. Do you re-watch videos from concerts? I just searched in my photos because you can search concerts. Yep. And it comes up. And there's videos, there's Guns N' Roses, never opened that. Ever.

There's a Motley Crue, I never opened that. Queen, I've just never ever done it. I'm not opening them. Have you opened the videos? Did you have your iPhone in the 1980s? How dare you? They are still very hot

and very relevant bands. I was just about to bring that back to a My Chemical Romance. Have you watched those? Do you even remember taking those? No, I've got them.

Hey, Florence and the Machine, no, I don't remember taking those videos. Okay, yeah. My Chemical Romance, I was lucid the whole time. Here's some Queen videos. Yeah, I just have never, you know, watched them back. Only concerts I watched back are ones I performed in. But you're at a concert, everyone has their hand up,

the phone's on, the entire arena is lit with phones. I get that you feel the need to capture it and remember it forever. I remember, okay, I'm sounding really irrelevant and I saw Neil Young live. Oh my God. No, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. I'm not a huge Neil Young fan, but my dad is.

So I filmed almost all of it for my dad and then kept sending it to him. And does that, I can understand. Yeah, but no, he doesn't watch them. Or like, just at least get out your phone for the favourite song. But then you're missing your favourite song. Well, what did the he doesn't watch them. Or like just at least get out your phone for the favourite song. But then you're missing your favourite song. Well, what did the people vote?

Tell us, Vornay. Do you re-watch videos from concerts? 72% of people said no. Yeah. 28% said yes. I got reminded by Facebook memories that it was five years ago this week that we saw Cher in concert. Now see, now we're back to being relevant artists.

Sorry that I personally brought down the relevance of the music references. I have never seen Vaughn so happy in all of his life, apart from the Wiggles. The Wiggles, Cher and the Wiggles. Cher was wicked. The Wiggles concert I reckon I've watched back a few times. The videos we took on that night.

That was the R18 Wiggles. Great night. Because that felt like that night. Oh, that was the R18. That was the R18 Wiggles. Great night. Because that felt like a dream. Yeah, it did. So I can see why you'd watch that back. I watched the shared videos back and all it reminded me was is that I should not sing at concerts. I should just enjoy somebody else's singing. Do you believe

in life after love? Although I will say like phones have got way better at taking concert videos. Especially in the last few years but before then like 2000s I way better at taking concert videos, especially in the last few years. But before then, like 2000s. I watch other people's concert videos. 2010s, like it's, you know, a lot of muffled sound, yelling. Yeah.

Well, some messages in. Well, some messages in. Jamie said, it's Gilmath right though. Every view of the video, the price of the concert ticket is divisible in extra time. That's right. We did actually say that to someone who was trying a Girl Math Taylor Swift tickets. Yeah. I think Taylor you'd watch back.

You'd watch back. But probably no one else. Taylor Swift? Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's all relative to who your favourite artist are, isn't it? Also, like, how lucky that you ever managed to get there. Yeah. To be fair. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's all relative to who your favourite artists are, isn't it? Also, like, how lucky that you ever managed to get there. Yeah.

To be fair. Yeah. Hannah said, I've stopped recording concerts now. I'm trying to live in the moment and all that nonsense. Kia ora. Namaste. I like that. Big namaste there.

We went to something the other day. I can't say what it was. But we had to lock our phones in one of those bags with a security tag on it. And you couldn't get to your phone. It was like the same tag that they put on clothes to stop you stealing them. It was pinned in and they had to use a magnet to take it out. I thought it was some sort of sex club you two went to. It was a sex club.

That's what we were watching. Oh, sorry, we weren't allowed to say. Sorry, sorry. Yeah, no, that's all right. Just don't say what kind of sex club it was. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was the cuddles. Mostly cuddles.

It was just cuddles and compliments. That's what it's called. Cuddles and confidence. Yeah, that's my favourite sex club. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was the cuddles. Mostly cuddles. It was just cuddles and compliments. That's what it's called. Cuddles and confidence. Yeah, that's my favourite sex club. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then afterwards you have pats.

You go to the room that's pats and reassurance. It's okay, it's okay. Yeah, you're all good. You're all good, man. You're all good. You're all good, yeah. You're all good.

My second cousin messaged in. That's my second cousin. Kia ora. Deanna. Deanna. She said no because my terrible singing. How do you know your second cousins? That's so weird, eh?

Is it a cousin's child or your mum's cousin? It's my mum's cousin's child. So it's my second cousin. Right, okay. It's my mum's cousin once removed, isn't it? Anyway, we can talk about that another time. You're related somehow. Don't sleep together.

Just shout outs to the Livingstons there of New Plymouth and the surrounding areas. We just do shout outs all day. Just to rogue distant family members. Let's do a show where all we do is shout outs. Text us 9696 shout outs. It's the shout out show. It's the shout out show.

It's Friday. It's shout outs. Yeah, it'll have to be a Friday because that sounds like absolutely dial it in. That sounds great. I'm down for the Friday shout-out show. Maybe last show of the year. Friday with just your shout-outs.

You know when no one can be bothered? Not a single story. Not a single bit of music. Just shout-outs. Shout-outs. The Santa shout-outs. She says no because my... It sounds like radio in the UK.

It's all they do. Shout-outs. I love a shout-out. I love shouting out to people. Deanna says no because my terrible singing usually ruins them all. So that's obviously a family trait. Okay. Maddie says, no, because my terrible singing usually ruins them all. So that's obviously a family trait.

Maddie says, I took videos of Harry Styles and I was even telling myself as I was doing it, you'll never go back and look at these, but I continue to record the best night of my life.

Do you do that? I do that with like sunsets and mountains. Yes. And you never watch it. Always take a photo and literally go, and I'll never look at that again.

Yes. Or I'm going to time lapse this sunset, which I will, it will mean I can't be on my phone for an hour, but I will never look at it again. Yeah. Is it Mental Health Awareness Week? Yes, it is. Correct. I am aware that I took my anxiety

medication this morning. She says looking at her bag, did she? Good fun. Well, this is an interesting week, I guess, for this study to come out then. Because I feel like we've always known, don't suppress your feelings. Yeah, talk to someone. They come into your subconscious

and they can wreak havoc in there. However, a study out of Cambridge University has found using the term, you actually just need to harden up. Which is the term that we've all been told we should stop saying and never say. Now I would

take this with a grain of salt because I totally go, talk to someone. But I think they're talking about all feelings that we're feeling all the time. Maybe we don't need to be expressing them all the time, especially if they're uncomfortable and annoying

that you can instead sometimes just decide to swallow and press it down and then just have a bit of a stiff upper lip and harden up. And they said that that's actually sometimes less damaging than expressing them.

That's also very British as well, isn't it? What, to just suppress your feelings? Yeah, to say, yeah. But I can't, at the risk of absolutely getting cancelled before 7 o'clock this morning. Oh, I really don't want to. I can see, at the risk of absolutely getting cancelled before 7 o'clock this morning. Oh, I really don't want to. I can see what they mean. Because if you let the negative thoughts overwhelm everything,

it can become a lot bigger deal than it actually is. Do you know what I mean? Totally. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So I don't think this is, I mean, this is definitely not talking about if you're concerned that you've got depression or suicidal ideation or anything like that. No. Obviously, you have to express that.

But the way they did it was they took people from 16 different countries and were asked about 20 different fears and worries that they thought might happen. 20 hopes and dreams. And then 36 humdrum scenarios. Humdrum. Just like, you go to your car and there's a biscuit on the seat. That was my only humdrum scenario I could think of. Oh, no, no. Wouldn't you be delighted?

I'd be stoked. I'd blow the dust off and then eat the biscuit. So then data showed that those told to explicitly not think about the events or to distract themselves from thinking about them, thought about their events less vividly and improve their mental health. So if you're going, oh, my God, like, oh, I'm really nervous about this meeting I have, you know, where I have to say to someone, you know, I'm disappointed or I'm upset or I want to break up with you or whatever, that the more that they expressed that feeling,

the worse their response was to it. Right. I'm just going to, nah, not going to think about that actually. Yeah. And then just face it head on, had a less of an impact on their mental health. I get what they mean. But like the headline of the story being

you need to harden up or take a concrete pill and harden up isn't quite the best delivery of it. Definitely not. Definitely not. So same with people with PTSD. So think about your war vets or people that have gone through traumatic events.

There's therapy for PTSD where you go through the whole thing and then this study was like a lot of people that suppressed negative thoughts associated with the event that gave them PTSD their mental health increased

at a faster rate than those that were going through more of a expressive therapy for it. By at least 10%. I don't know how you measure your mental health. I mean, it's a fluctuating thing, isn't it? Measuring it by percentages, it'd be interesting to see how they did that. Yeah, so now they're calling it suppression training.

Burying it, basically. But that's what we've been told all this time. I know, because it lives like a bloody tumour in your gut until one day it's all going to come out. But then you also see it on social media, right? Because you see people who maybe put a lot on social media and that's what gets them the likes and the interaction with people and they're like, oh, okay. And then they put up a happy thing and it's like, well, they're happy.

They don't need to be talked to. And then they're like, well, actually, I liked it better when people were and that was the content that was sad. So then they put more sad stuff up. Do you know what I mean? And it feeds the beast. As the scientists have said, they said it's very nuanced. Like it's very, there's so many layers to it.

It's not a blanket rule, but it's just a very interesting sort of take on something that I feel like we've worked so hard to sort of fight against. Anyway, look after your mental health today and all this week and forever more. I cannot but you are joking, eh? You are joking. I'm not. This is just what it is

to live like me. This is great. I'm loving this. We have been saying all morning, we've been talking just what it is to live like me. This is me. This is great. This is great. I'm loving this. Hayley, we have been saying all morning, we've been talking about this for weeks, how excited we are that we're going to Melbourne this weekend. I've got my suitcase right here. We're leaving straight for work.

There's no liquids in my handbag. At nine o'clock. You're organised. I say to Hayley, as a joke, oh, you got your passport? Nope. Doesn't have a passport. I don't have it. I don't have it. I don't have it.

Where is it? It's at home. It's at home. Oh my god, you are joking. It's at home in the renovation tip that is my house and my fiancé, Aaron, is asleep and I don't have it. You're better than this.

I'm not. This is what it is. This is what it is to live like me. I am a whimsical flimsy woman. Well, we'll sort it. We'll sort it. You really have worn this one. I've worn it.

You really have. I've worn it. I expect this from Vaughn. I've got everything together. Although, if I was going with Vaughn this weekend, I would have said last night, hey, have you got your passport?

Yeah. Don't forget your passport. And this morning, I would have followed up., hey, have you got your passport? Yeah. Don't forget your passport. And this morning I would have followed up. You had too much faith in me. Yeah, I did have too much faith in you. Is what's happened here. Look, we'll get it. We'll get it.

Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah, blah. This is the Top Six. Hit it, Vaughan. I can't hear anything. Yeah, I know. You're on, baby. Oh. I can't hear anything. Yeah, I know. You're on, baby.

Oh, I can hear you now. Step up. I bumped something. I didn't know what I bumped. God, I really fletched that, didn't I? No, you Vaughan that. No, that was a fletch. That was a fletch.

Hayley Vaughan not bringing her passport. I fletch. No, that's not a fletch. You've got a hayliet. That's not fletching it. You've got to complete the triangle. You've got to haley it in some way. Okay, give me a couple of drinks. Oh, whoa!

Personal? That's not personal. Because apparently that's why she forgot the passport. I made mojitos last night. Oh, yumma. I knew, I knew. Yumma. Mint and lime and rum and I forgot my passport. Today's Top Six deals with an Auckland man, a I knew, I knew. Yum. Mint and lime and rum and half a gola possible. Today's Top Six deals with an Auckland man, a 68-year-old Auckland man,

who the story of how he ended up with a 15-tonne armoured personnel carrier tank on the front lawn of his Auckland state house is a beautiful story in itself. Okay. You're allowed to leave a tank on your front lawn? Apparently. So, kind of. Now, this man, Leonard, he catered a wedding. He put on a hungie for like a thousand people. Good lord.

That's a lot of people. It's a lot of pressure too. Now, he was expecting a lot of pressure as a man who's bald, a hungie, and packed an absolute sad way of doing it again. Now, he was expecting a lot of pressure as a man whose balls are hungy and packed in absolute. Sad won't be doing it again. Do you know what? I think next Waitangi weekend, you should try the hungy again. No, it's a Labor Day.

I might try it on Labor Day, but I might keep it a bit more low-key. Okay. Because I kept everything. I kept my hungy baskets and everything. They're all just waiting for round two. It's so funny, though, when it didn't work. It wasn't. So then when it came to payment for this hungy for 1,000 people,

the guy was like, I can't pay. How would you feel about taking a FV432 armoured personnel carrier as payment? To which Leonard, an ex-soldier, was like, okay, you got a deal. Jeepers. What is this story? Now, this is the person that gave Leonard the arm and personnel carrier bought this off as well as a hammer, a military hammer, off a paintball place that was shutting down.

Then the person that gave Leonard the tank got into some trouble. Oh, yeah. And through the Proceeds of Crime Act had a whole lot of his possessions repossessed, which included this tank, which he'd given to Leonard. So for the past three years, Leonard and his lawyer have been trying to prove that that's Leonard's tank. Okay. Okay, wow. Now, there was all these delays.

It got proven earlier in the year. But now they've been delaying and delaying and delaying. And they said, to be honest, we'd love to bring it back, but we can't get it running. And he said, well, it was running when it left here, so don't you dare bring it back without it running. Which I think was a power play. Great power play. Great power play. Because, you know, they'll probably update the spark plugs, change the oil, really go the whole hog to get it going again.

This already sounds like a Netflix doco. Yeah, it does. It sounds like fun. Everything has got a car case. Yeah. It's got proceeds of crime. got a drum case. Yeah, it's got proceeds of crime. It's got some armoured vehicles and stuff.

So then on Wednesday afternoon, congratulations, your tank is back. And he's stoked. Yes. Good work, Leonard. He said that his mokopuna were just

blown away by it because one of them wasn't even born when the tank got taken and the other was like in a pram and now can fully appreciate the fact that Grandad's got a tank. Are they going to inherit this tank one day? Yes. I'd be like, oh good.

He wants to get it road legal. I don't know how. It's on very aggressive looking tracks that kind of tore up his lawn as he drove onto it. But anyway. The top six things this man who finally got his tank back can finally do.

Number six on the list. Park anywhere he goddamn pleases. You just stop, don't you? On cars. On cars. Over cars. In the mall. Through cars.

Bunt someone. Like a Ford Ranger's halfway across two car parks. Just push it back into one and then park beside it. And then deny that it was you that put the track marks down the side of the Ford Ranger. Yeah.

Number five on the list of the top six things Tank Man can finally do now that he's got his tank back. Stop the neighborhood kids riding on their bikes over his lawn. Oh, yeah. You know, because it looks like he lives on a corner, so they always cut through the corner and they take a big chunk out of the lawn. Yeah, get that out of the way. Yeah, get that out of the way.

Number four on the list of the top six things Tank Man can do with his tank now that it's finally back. Keep the door knockers from knocking on doors. You wouldn't knock on a door with a tank on the bloody lawn. The funny thing is the story where the tank's getting returned, two Mormon missionaries stopped for a photo with the tank. They got off their 10-speed bikes and took a photo with the tank and then got back on their 10-speed bikes. And I'm imagining

didn't try to gift a book of Mormon to Tank Man. Number three on the list of the top six things that Tank Man

can do now that his tank is finally back keep those damn pigeons off his roof. Yeah. How are you going to do that with a tank?

Shoot them. With a 50 calibre machine gun that's on the side. I totally forgot about the gun on it. Yeah. Number two on the list of the top six things a tank man can do with his tank. Finally back in his position.

Stop Mr. Whoopie from driving past and parking halfway down the block, requiring you to walk. Yeah. In fact, you could just put your turret on him and he won't be leaving you ever. You get free ice creams, basically. Follow him. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. put your turret on him and he won't be leaving you ever you get free ice creams basically follow him yeah totally

yeah and number one on the list of the top six things Auckland man who got his tank back can finally do take down that speed hump

down the road in multiple ways he could shoot it he could just tank it roll over it flatten it yeah

again and again and again just back and forth back and forth yeah the world is his light armoured tank base oyster

that is today's top six I announced yesterday that I'm I'm gonna up my aesthetic to elevated goth it's sort of my new vibe I shared

we're off to Melbourne hopefully if I get my passport so we're off to Melbourne and I was showing you my suitcase I was putting together some outfits all I was planning to get us some outfits. All black.

What is the difference between a standard goth and an elevated goth? So I can still be like a moochie girl with designer goods, but it's just all black and a bit more grown up. Right. So it's a grown up goth. Yeah, it's posh goth. Posh goth. If the Spice Girls were goths.

Posh goth. I'm the posh goth. Right. What would sporty goth. Posh goth. If the Spice Girls were goths. Posh goth. I'm the posh goth. Right. What would sporty goth be? Oh, I don't know. She doesn't matter. It's all about posh. Yeah.

Goths never played sports, in my experience. I was a marching goth. It was weird. That was sport adjacent. Oh, no. It'd be a roller derby goth. Oh, it would be. Oh, yeah.

They evolved into roller derby girlsh. Oh, it would be. Oh, yeah, they evolved into roller derby girls. Yeah, it would. Yeah, totes. Yeah. And then as part of that, I was following a few posh goths on Instagram and one of them was wearing a leather beret and I was like, ha, ha.

Because I used to be a real hat girl. I used to always wear a hat, Y-brim hat. Did you? Yeah, yeah, I was a real like girl. Okay. And, you know, I've got thin hair as well, so a hat's always good for that.

And I thought maybe I could pull off a leather beret so we put it to the people about the leather beret. Also, I said I was going to buy a leather harness. I bought it. I bought one. But also, the harness you sent wasn't, I was imagining, like, a multi-point harness. No, it's almost like a gun holster. Like the one that you're wearing on the Bears Parade float at the Santa Parade Vaughan. See, our minds go to different places when we say harness fletch,

because you think of bears and harnesses like a large, hairy homosexual man. I think of guys who go down the side of buildings cleaning windows or guys who go up trees to chop the trees down. No, those are abseiling harnesses. But they are a harness. Carabiner and whatnot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Multi-point safety harness with adjustable leg straps,

whereas you're like, does this harness have the clips to attach to my arseless chaps? We're two very different harness wearers. We really are. And I sort of fall somewhere in the middle. So I was devastated because I shared this on my page as well, reposted, we put a poll up on the FVHZM page, and I re-shared that. So I was devastated because I shared this on my page as well, reposted, we put a poll up on the FVHZM page,

and I re-shared that, and I had quite a lot of positive feedback. Hell yes, Queen, hell yes. Like, do it, do it, do it. Yeah, but what you did is you entered an echo chamber of people who like you to ask them a question. Enablers. They weren't being honest with you, they were being enablers, yeah. Yes, people, yes, people. Vaughan, have you got the feedback from our people?

I do, yes. Should Hayley get a leather beret? 67% almost nice said, maybe not, hon. So, like, politely. 33% said, yes, Justin Bieber heart emoji, baguette, French flag. That's a third. What I'm hearing is. A third of people want you to wear a leather.

The Photoshop, were you happy with the Photoshop of you and the leather beret? What I'm hearing is A third of people want you to wear The photoshop Were you happy with the photoshop of you in the leather beret I think the photoshop of me Wearing the leather beret was done really well I think I would Yeah I mean like you know I'd work it slightly differently Right but more angle

Well there's some feedback if you wanted Some words from people Nicole said absolutely not. Okay, Nicole. Fiona. Nicole is not mincing words. Nicole sounds like a prep. Fiona said that's hot.

Who said? Fiona said that's hot. Fiona gets it. Fiona gets it. Tiana says you look like you're in a British comedy where they're doing some sort of dress up as the French and it's just not that great. She, without knowing, because Tiana might be too young

she is accusing you of being an aloha. She's too young but she knows that this category of comedy exists. Tiana you are going to love aloha. Aloha. Listen very carefully Ashers.

Only once. Only once. Hayley, you are a very starly lady. You don't need the public's opinion. You will start a trend. Do it.

That's from friend of the show, Jillian, who, to be honest, is far too nice to tell you you look silly anyway. Jillian is always nice to me, actually, though. She's always very nice.

That's Jillian's MO. She's one of the nicest people we know. Sam says, wow, yes. Sam, male or female? See, I feel like the poll results. Sam, female. Okay.

I feel the poll results aren't reflecting the comments. I feel like it's a yes. I think it's because people who just decided no decided no and no further comment required. Like they were so firmly in the no camp. There was no sort of convincing to do. Yeah. Ree says,

girl, who cares about the poll writing? So that's already telling me that. See, this is women. This is what we do. Girl, you do you. Yeah, you do you. And then they're going to go like, oh God, did you see that bitch

in the little beret? Did you see the frigging little beret? Oh my God, I can't believe it. Wow, well, stay tuned because will it or won't it happen? We're going to see how it goes. Wait, wait, wait. M said, I am French. Oh, okay.

Actually, I didn't even take into account appropriation. Appropriation of French culture. No, thumbs down. I'm French and we don't even wear them. Maybe if it was the 1950s. Hello, hello. Helloumbs down. I'm French and we don't even wear them. Maybe if it was the 1950s. Hello, hello. Hello, hello. Hello, hello.

Okay. 16 past seven. Joining us on the show next, we've got a special podcast out today. We catch up with Brad. Bad news Brad, we affectionately call him, you know, every few months. Yeah. We need to touch base on this whole financial economic situation that we've been going through over the last couple of years.

We asked you to put your questions to Brad, who's an economist, and he joins us next. Can't wait. We're joined in studio by our dear friend and sometimes brunch buddy Yes Bad News Brad Olsen Kia ora

Kia ora Thank you for coming in Now we're actually going to record a podcast special for our little bit of pod where you can get anywhere you listen to your podcasts iChoose iHeartRadio That's up to you That'll be available today on the podcast feed

yeah we ask for a bunch of our listening questions I choose sounds music stores I go in and I listen to the podcast on the listening post now that is a reference that I don't even think

Brad is old enough to remember can you get can you guys appear on vinyl is that a thing oh it would be a very expensive way to listen to a podcast

it's pressing every individual you need about seven vinyls too yeah oh and when it pours we're going to flip over to the B side. Yeah. Hello, welcome back.

That's where I come in. There you go. Now, bad news, Brad, as we affectionately call you, how bad is everything? I feel like it could be a lot better, let's be real, but it also could be a lot worse. Like, the economy's not in that awful of a state. We're still seeing a lot of people in jobs.

That's encouraging. It's just that stuff, life is expensive, right? And it's your essentials. It's your food. It's your bits and pieces. All of that sort of continuing to hit households. I filled up my car the other day from empty and I put it in as you do and da-da-da-da-da.

And then I was like, excuse me? And it just like kept going up. And it passed 100 and I was like, surely any second now. It's shocked me. And I don't drive a very grunty car at all. And what, 350 by Christmas, I've heard, petrol? That's the risk. I mean, it's already well above $3 a litre.

Again, a little bit of the challenge at the moment is that a lot of this stuff's out of our control. You're seeing internationally oil prices have been going up because some of the oil-producing nations aren't putting as much out. That is sort of classic supply and demand. I say we invade them and make them. I mean, with whose army? We make China's. China's.

China's. Can we borrow this army, please? Yeah, it's a bit. But good news, if you are a terrible driver and you're finding the cost of petrol expensive, there's a hybrid Ford Ranger coming so you can still drive

like an absolute piece of shit yeah and be doing it slightly cheaper is it time to get out the push bike and start growing

our own fruit and vegetables I mean the fruit and vegetables yeah I think there's definitely options I mean how good are you with keeping them alive because I'd like to do that

and yeah just everything dies here's the thing. I've got the vegetable garden. I've started the vegetable garden. It's very expensive to buy everything you need to plant in the vegetable garden. How bougie have you gone, though? What's that? How bougie have you gone?

Not bougie at all. Not bougie at all. So is it your basics that are going to be when mine are growing at their prime and cheapest in supermarkets? So you're saying it's almost not worth it. I bought seed potatoes and I would say when potatoes are at their cheapest, I'll be able to get more potatoes, but I also have to put all this work in, time.

Not to make this a girl math episode, but does that mean that I should just get Uber Eats all the time? You should get fries all the time because those are potatoes that have already been cooked for you by somebody else. Because you're saving yourself the effort. Are things going to get better? Is there light at the end of the tunnel?

Yeah, I think there is. We're starting again. We're getting inflation that's moving in the right direction. That's encouraging. You know, there's still, I think, a lot of cool stuff happening out there. A lot of people are getting jobs.

A lot of people are still thinking about new business opportunities and what have you. It's just that, look, we're in for a period of, I think, restraint is the way we're talking about it. You say people are still getting jobs. That, uh, the guy that famously came up with the avocado on toast.

Retro Rick. Retro Rick. Yeah, that's the only reason young people can't buy a house. Yeah, an Aussie guy, property developer, he has come out this week or end of last week in Australia and said people need to lose their jobs. A lot of people. Job loss needs to get to 50%. Unemployment.

50! 50. I think I saw this. I read that sort of stuff because he was also like, no one knows how to work anymore and everyone's just like real demanding. He inherited his money. Yeah, well, you know, no one like knows how to work anymore and everyone's just like real demanding. He inherited his money. Yeah.

I think my thing is like, there always needs to be a bit more balance in the world. I hate this sort of everything goes to the extremes. What we're actually seeing, and this is why New Zealand's unemployment rate is going up, not because people are getting fired and walking out the door with stuff under their arms. It's actually because there's more and more people now

who are looking for jobs just as there are fewer jobs available. So what we saw, there's a lot of people that are coming into New Zealand looking for jobs. We also know that a lot of people, because of the high cost of living, they haven't previously been working. Now they're going, oh, geez, household budget's pretty tight. I need to go and get a bit of side money. Now I've got to go and get a job. But there are just fewer and fewer out there. So back in June, we saw 35,000 more people looking for jobs. Only 28,000 of them got jobs.

Right, okay. But not us, eh? We're good, eh? Job wise. For now, yeah. Great. Good, good, good, good, good, good. Same. We'll go into mortgages in the podcast special, but it's always a popular question. Should people, like, fix?

Like, how long should they fix for at. Should people like fix, like how long should they fix for at the moment? I think, again, we go into this in the, we'll go into this in the pod a little bit more, but the biggest bit for me is that I think it's worthwhile shopping around. There are some big differences. One of the banks has got like a 6.99 one year fixed mortgage rate. One of them's got 7.45 for the same one year fixed mortgage rate. Shit, you'll feel that. Go and find it. I mean, that's thousands of dollars difference a year. And that's money you can spend on a whole bunch of other things. Yeah, I have no bank loyalty.

I have been at every single bank. Why? Why would you? Yeah, they don't care about me. It's like having loyalty to a prison. Yeah, yeah. But it is perimeter in the way for you. Well, I have to stay in prison.

I might as well try to get a nice prison. But that's your favourite one though, is Perimera. It's close, it's close. You know, if I'm going to make a run, there's a swamp nearby, I'll be able to get in there. I like Mount Eden.

You want the minimum security. Yeah, minimum security is nice. Mount Eden is a remand prison, Hayley. You can't say that. That's effectively being on a floating rate. Oh, no.

I want a nice medium one. How have you made prisons so relatable to mortgage rates? And good morning to our prison listeners. Good morning to all of our prisoners. They're always on the wireless, aren't they? Yeah, yeah. Smuggled one in, didn't they?

Yeah, they text in in their smuggled phones. Well, yeah, go listen to our big podcast with Bad News Brad. Out today, Brad Olsen. Thank you so much for joining us again. Thanks for having me again, Tim. Play. ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. Brad Olsen, thank you so much for joining us again. Thanks for having me again, Tim. Play. ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley.

It's the final rankings. We do this every Friday. We rank things. Is this because I was wearing my R.L. Stine Goosebumps top yesterday? Yes. Yeah, and we said you had big energy of a kid that was allowed to get whatever they wanted from the Ashton Scholastic pamphlets when they arrived at school. When there was a book fair, you would have been like, I'll take these, this, this, this, this, this, and this.

Yeah. Do they still do that, that book club thing? They do a version of it, eh? Yeah, they do, yeah, because August is exactly like me. By the time it gets home, she'd circled like the five or six that she wanted. Yeah. Which is what I used to do. No, we can't afford it.

No, you'd give her everything she ever wanted, didn't you? Didn't you? I think we got her a couple of books from it. Yeah. Because it's books, right? That's better than screen time. Like, I was weighing it up. I was like, geez, if she reads a book, then that's good.

I was about to say, it's better than meth. It is better than meth. I mean, if we were going to rank things better than meth, books would certainly be on the list. Books is up there quite high, quite high. Because of your amazing, it's a great retro shirt. Thank you. The Goosebumps shirt.

Today, for final rankings, we're going to do authors, children's authors. Because this has just brought back so much joy. I was a big reader as a kid, and it reminded me of Paul Jennings. Did you guys read Paul Jennings? Dude, I loved, I think I read all of Paul Jennings. He had like a series of books that was like unreal, uncanny, uncollected. Yeah.

Yeah. Remember the Gizmo? Yes. Quirky Tales? I don't know what you're talking about. Paul Jennings was just like kind of edgy, sort of dark humour, eh? Yeah, he wrote the un-books, which there were many of, were a collection of short stories and they all had like a lesson to be learnt.

Yes. Oh, okay. Or short, like this guy invented the world's most perfect fertiliser that didn't smell, but flies could smell it. And so when he invented it, like flies invaded the town. And I was just, I reckon I could read them now. There's something so good about them. I'm going to try and go to an op shop and find some Paul Jennings

because I really want to read the gizmo again. Paul Jennings, I reckon, could be my number one. Okay, what about Roald Dahl though? Yeah, I know, so good. Roald Dahl's like classic, man. You think of all of the stories that Roald Dahl, though? Yeah, I know. So good. Roald Dahl's like classic, man. Like, you think of all of the stories that Roald Dahl... So they've all been made into movies or TV shows, and they've all been pretty good.

Also, like, what part of childhood? Because I'll go Roald Dahl was like younger, whereas Paul Jennings was older. Jacqueline Wilson was a real one for the 90s girlies. Yeah, okay. Like kind of young, young adult fiction. But then what about Beatrix Potter? A classic.

Peter Rabbit. Yeah, a classic. And then, of course, we've got R.L. Stine, Goosebumps Books. Yep. Closer to home, your Joy Cowleys, your Margaret Mahes, your Lindley Dodd. Lindley Dodd gave us Harry McCleary. Let's not forget that classic.

But that's younger again. That's like, you know, before school and the early times of school. I want to... Tough. I want to... I want to be patriotic. But I think I'm going to go Paul Jennings, number one. Then I'm going to go R.L. Stine with the Goosebumps series, number two.

And then number three, I'm going Jacqueline Wilson. Because people of my age are going to love Jacqueline Wilson. She's real for the girlies. I didn't read it. What were her books? What were her? I didn't read any of them. Girls in Love, Sleepovers, Girls Under Pressure,

The Story of Tracy Beaker. I didn't read any of these. Little flirty, like, girly stories. Double act, double act. How good was double act? We couldn't afford a Kindle Little flirty, like, girly stories. Double act, double act. How good was double act? We couldn't afford a Kindle when I was, like, six. No, I need the books, the book books. The paper Kindles.

Paper Kindles. We had paper Kindles. I don't understand. I don't comprehend. What did you read as a child? Oh, Dum Dum Didn't Read. Dum Dum Didn't Read. The phone book.

So Yellow Pages is the author. Like Roald Dahl? Yeah, Roald Dahl. Yeah, Roald Dahl was really good. What's your favourite Roald Dahl? Mine would be The Witches. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory is pretty legendary.

Witches was amazing. James and the Giant Peach. I reread James and the Giant Peach with my girls, and it was way better than I remember. I think you missed a lot of the nuances. Well, I'll go Roald Dahl, and that's it. You just read Roald Dahl. Okay.

What are you going for? I'm going to go... For me personally, Paul Jennings is number one. I've just learned he's Australian. I always thought he was American, but he was Australian. So Paul Jennings, because I read so many of his books. Should we get some more and then we'll exchange them.

You can read them. We'll start the Paul Jennings book club. Oh my god. Somebody just messaged in saying, tell Hayley I got the full Paul Jennings box set from Costco. What? Costco. Now you want a membership. Now you want my membership, don't you? Oh, I was going to let mine lapse.

You've never gone. I've literally never been. Maybe now could be the time. Okay. Okay, I might have to buy that. Good Costco have weird shit, eh? Why would they have Paul Jennings? It's so irrelevant now.

Like, caskets are giant muffins. Oh, no, guys. And the whole Paul Jennings. We forgot Dr. Seuss. Now I know he's been cancelled for some cultural appropriation in the past. Dr. Seuss was in my... It was a different time. And I've made the adjustments.

I'm going JK Rowling, Dr. Seuss. And Bill Cosby, Fatherhood. He's courting controversy. He's you. Okay, what about... Somebody's messaged in Enid Blyden. Enid Blyden did the Faraway Tree and lots of the Famous Five and stuff. Yeah. What about the old Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe?

Who was that? C.S. Lewis. Was that C.S. Lewis? Was that C.S. Lewis? Oh, my God. Fancy. It was C.S. Lewis. Thank you C.S. Lewis? Oh my God, fancy. Yeah, it was C.S. Lewis. Thank you.

Great poet as well. Jacqueline Wilson, Enid Blyton, somebody said. Who did Artemis Fowl? That was a big one when I was growing up as well. Artemis Fowl. Oh yeah. It's a TV show now. Twilight series.

Shut up. Get out of here. Sorry, we're older than you. Shut up. Get out. Shut up and get out. So what are, we're older than you. Shut up. Get out. Shut up and get out. Get out. So what are we final?

I think Paul Jennings wins. Paul Jennings is number one. I went Ryle Dale number two. You're a Goosebumps boy. Come on. No, to be honest, I wasn't a Goosebumps kid. I was easily scared. So it ended to be.

Little bitch. Yeah. I was a little bitch. He was a big little bitch. Now, the legal age that you become a mature adult is 18. Yes. This is similar around the world. Lots of Western countries, I'd say.

Although America's weird. It's like no drinking until you're 21, but you can do everything else. You can buy a gun at 18. Yeah. You can buy a gun at five. Yes. But scientists, brain scientists have actually discovered in general,

it's different for everyone, but in general you don't fully become an adult in your brain until you're in your 30s. Is it more for men? Like are men later than women? I'm not sure actually. Don't they say men are always a bit...

That you're slower. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Because we don't... Yeah, we don't know some things. They did this study because they were looking at criminal cases, you know, and like jailing 19-year-olds for murders or drugs and stuff and then going like, eh, they're not really an adult yet.

And same... Wasn't there like a 16-year-old in America recently that got jailed for murder? Yeah. You're like, oh. Oh, my mum had a rule, if you're old enough to murder, you're old enough to be an adult. See, because my mum said, you know, just wait till 18 to get your murdering. Right, yeah.

Okay, right, yeah. Don't start murdering until you can vote. And I stuck to that. Yeah, you did. To the day. You waited till your 18th birthday. To the day. But to your 30s and sometimes into your late 30s

until you finally have a fully developed adult brain. Well, this is you. This is me, man. This is my father. Like, I would say he isn't still an adult. Even though he, like, ran a business and stuff, parts of him are, but parts of him definitely aren't. He's still a little child clown.

And I feel the same. I love when people are like that. Yeah, same. I hope I'm like that. You can't take life too seriously. I know. But I don't feel like an adult. And sometimes we get these adult decisions

and you're like, what are you looking at me for? Is that because you left your passport at home this morning and we're off to the airport in like an hour and 13 minutes? I'm a baby. I need to be looked after by a group of men apparently who have to all make sure I'm okay. But I did have a moment this week where, I'm 33, I'm not crying.

I just had a lump in my throat. I'm 33 and I literally put a roof over my head. I paid for a roof and I looked put a roof over my head. I paid for a roof. And I looked at the roof. And you know, Vaughn, I mean, we are proud of this roof. Yeah, it's a great roof. Aaron made Vaughn go up and rub the roof. We went up there and rubbed the roof, yeah.

Rubbed the roof. And I remember thinking like, man, that's grown up. You're doing redheads and you paid for a roof over your head. I got a skylight. I'm very adult. Yeah. It felt like the most absurdly adult thing to do. The mortgage part of it, I'm all like, that's whimsical, fantastical money anyway.

Like, it's not real, real debt that'll ever pay back. But the tangible things, I was like, that feels adult. That feels really grown up. Yeah. To pay for a roof. Anyway, I've wondered on the back of this study that says you don't reach adulthood really until your 30s,

I want to know what the most grown up thing you did this week was. I put on a tie yesterday. Yes, you did. You look like an ex-candidate. Excuse me! It was a black and white tie. Oh no, it was New Zealand first.

It was a grey, black and white scraped tie. You did look a bit like Winston. You look like you were knocking doors for the New Zealand first. It was a grey, black and white, scraped tie. You did look a bit like Winston. You look like you were knocking doors for the New Zealand first party. Oh, sir, ma'am, no. You did, though. But you did, we'll talk about this soon on the show, but you had a day at government house.

I know, that felt very grown up. I had a high tea. That felt very grown up. That's a very grown up thing to do. I don't know what grown up things I've done this week. What's the most adult thing you've done? I complained about some graffiti. Yes! Yes! Yep. You're an old man. We are

adults! We are adults. Hear us roar! So we want you to share now. Call us 0800 dials at M. You can text her as well. 9696. Big or small, what is the most grown up thing that you did this week? Could be taking out a loan.

It could be fixing yourself some dinner. Anything in between. Making yourself dinner is the most adult thing. For some people, that might feel like a real step towards adults. That's right. Because they normally take away.

Because mummy usually cooks it for them or so does mummy Uber. We are wanting to know the most grown up thing that you did this week, because apparently, according to brain scientists, you don't become an adult until you're 30, in your 30s.

Marie, what's the most adult thing you did this week? So I left my job in hospitality that I've been in for freaking forever, and I got a job at a bank. Oh my god, that's so grown up! So grown up. Yeah.

Aye. Oh, my God. I know. I feel like such a grown up. Wear, like, proper clothes as well. I have key heels and a pencil skirt. Yes. I know.

And the bust up skirt. Oh, my goodness. You know you're an adult when you've got a pencil skirt. Yeah, there's nothing that screams adult than a pencil skirt. Yeah, exactly. I love that. Marie, congrats on the new job. Yeah, well done.

Some messages in. I got Botox so I can be grown up without having to look grown up. Good for you. Good for you. That's good. I was working at a garden club spring flower show this week, and I felt like a grown up, but I was also the youngest person there, so that felt like a grown-up.

That's pretty good. I went to work to keep my three kids alive. Very grown-up. Keep your teeth coming in. So apparently we don't become adults until we're mid-30s. Mid-30s. Well, our brain doesn't. Our brain arrives in adult land.

Now, we're all hoping that never happens to us. And then it goes downhill rapidly. And then you become a baby again. Yeah, exactly. But we wanted to know the most grown-up thing that you did this week. I got a skylight. I love this. I put on a tie yesterday and Fletch complained about graffiti.

Here are your messages. I had to go and meet my son's teacher. I thought, should I take my mum? Oh my god, yes. I love that. The first parent-teacher interview is weird because I'm like, in my mind I'm like, am I in trouble? Should I have my mum

in there because I still feel like a child. I made it through the work week without crying. That's actually one of these. Congratulations. Pucky pucky. I'm 33 and watched the political debate the other night. Very grown up actually. And then at the end I had

a cry because I realised what an adult I was. Yep. Paid my rates the first time since being a homeowner as well. Your rates bills, they're not fun but they do make you go like, oh, I'm a rate payer. Yeah. And then you can complain to the council. Yeah, you can say things like, that pothole, I pay rates.

My neighbour's not looking after his boom. I paid a solicitor's bill this week for our wills. Oh. Do you know, when someone said to me one day, like, so we'll get in touch with your lawyer. And I was like, I don't have a lawyer. What a bizarre thing to have, but you need a lawyer when you have things. I know, it's crazy.

I told off a child at the park for being a bully. Very adult, very adult. He was very born, actually. Oh yeah, I love telling other people's kids off. It's a bit frowned upon, but at a park, I think you get away with it. Man, there's so many just people who have just texting and saying they've had a moment

of realisation that they are an adult, even listening to this, because they're like, oh, I did that this week. Yeah. Someone just text and saying, oh no, I'm wearing a pencil skirt and I'm 20. Welcome to adulthood. Welcome to adulthood. Yesterday, I went to I'm in Wellington and I went Play ZM's Fletchford and Ailey Play ZM

Yesterday I went to, I'm in Wellington and I went to Government House for my Aunty Sylvia's QSM that's the Queen's Service Medal for her for her, what she's given to netball all of her volunteering over the years, which when they read out the list I was like whoa, because going to my Nana's

house growing up, Nana and Papa's house there was always netballs everywhere so I knew that she loved netball You barely move all the balls on the floor wall. Because going to my Nana's house growing up, Nana and Papa's house, there was always netballs everywhere. So I knew that she loved netball. You barely move all the balls on the floor. She has butcher balls everywhere. It's like a ball pit. Their house was an upscaled ball pit.

But yeah, she's volunteered a lot of her life to netball. So she got a QSM for it. That's awesome. That's why you're in Wellington. You went to the ceremony yesterday. Yes, and I went to Government House, and it was like I put on a suit and a tie, and we went in.

This is when you looked like a New Zealand First politician. I didn't look like a New Zealand First politician. It was an interesting tie. It was grey and black and white stripes. Like diagonal stripes. Diagonal stripes. Yeah, weird choice of a tie. That's Winston. Why did you get that tie?

I think I've got a photo of Winston wearing that tie. Remember, he probably would. I remember when we were going to the wedding and I was wearing that same suit and I thought I might need a tie and I went to the tie place at the domestic airport. Not tie as in T-H-I. I didn't eat tie food at the airport. I got a tie. You got a cup and car and then you went in and you bought a tie.

So I decked up and then I left after I got the tie because you always must give the tie greeting and the tie farewell. And then I just never wore the tie and then I just had it with that suit. So I put it on. But I, yeah, I don't like this New Zealand First comparison. No, I will say, I found it.

There is a picture of him essentially wearing your tie. She's found a picture of Winston Peters wearing your tie. She's found a picture of Winston Peters wearing your tie. The black white striped tie. So he's also like needs a tie in a hurry

at an airport too then I guess. Yeah, I guess so. I hope he said so with the crap as he left the store though that doesn't really doesn't feel too Winston.

What's the tie store at the airport called Tie Me Up? I always love when they do a punny name for their place. You've got to. You've got to if you're going to have a Thai restaurant. It's got to have a pun name.

That's the rule. No, it wasn't called that. I can't remember what it was called. Thai Thai. So we went to Government House and Hayley, you've been to Government House. I have. Thank you. Am I the only person on the show that hasn't been to Government House? You're not fancy enough.

You know? We've gone to not fancy enough, you know. We've gone to these fancy things, Vaughan and I. Okay, okay. We're off and off to these fancy things, Vaughan and I. When did you go to Government House? Part of a Shakespeare dinner thing I was representing. Do you want me to remember? No. I won the Peter Veer Jones Award for my outstanding performance of Richard III in the Queen Margaret College production.

Did you go in the dining room or did you go in the ballroom? We went in the dining room. go in the dining room or did you go in the ballroom? We went in the dining room. Oh, the dining room. It was the first place I ever had rare steak. Like, I grew up as a grey family, a grey meat family, and we had rare steak there and I was like, it's too fancy

for me to be like, oh good lord, that's still bleeding. And so I ate it and I was like, this is how steak should be. That's how steak should be had. I remember the first time I had medium rare steak and I was like, this is how steak should be. That's how steak should be had. I remember the first time I had medium rare steak and I was like, that's not chewy. Yeah. What's going on here? Hang on, where's the grit?

Yeah. Shouldn't I be like really chewing it? Shouldn't it be like leathery in my mouth by now? Nope, it's turned to nothing and it's gone down my throat. It's delicious. But Government House was very posh, Fletch. You simply must. It's cool.

It's a stunning building. Can anybody just go and turn up and have a look around? Do they do tours? They have parties. They do garden parties, yeah. Oh, okay. It's a stunning building. Can anybody just go and turn up and have a look around? Do they do tours? They have parties. They do garden parties, yeah. Oh, okay. I met the Governor General, Cindy, Dame Cindy. Oh, yeah, she's cool.

What do you mean you just went up and said hello? Well, the idea was Aunty Sylvia got, like, she got introduced, and then Aunty Sylvia had to introduce all of us. There was a lot of protocol. I saw the sword that they do the knighthoods with. Okay. The sword that they like. It's the same sword that's done Richie McCaw and everybody.

Everybody that's got a sir. Apparently it's the original sword. Yeah, common as a knight. I talked to a guy in the Navy, and he had heaps of badges and stuff from his time in the Navy. Yeah, okay. My Uncle Roger said to me, do you want to earn 20 bucks? And I said, yes.

And he said, I dare to yell out, up the waz, when Auntie Sylvia's coming along. Oh, my God, you didn't. Uncle Roger, there is a time and a place, Uncle Roger. This is a once in a lifetime experience. Uncle Roger. Oh, no. Please tell me nobody did that.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Nobody did. Nobody did. And then he called me a wimp afterwards because my daughter did it when she was leading the school assembly. Oh no, please tell me nobody did that No, no, no, no, no, nobody did And then he called me a wimp afterwards Because my daughter did it when she was leading the school assembly Slightly different though, isn't it? Slightly different, slightly different Very posh though Your auntie Sylvia was getting this for netball

Services to netball What were the other people there getting them for? Everything, there was like environment There was the lady that we were before, Aunty Sylvia, was a lawyer. She'd been to Rwanda and worked on genocide cases and obviously anti. Good to clarify.

It was good to clarify. I wasn't sure. She was getting a Queen's Service Medal pro-genocide. Pro-genocide. No. Definitely. Definitely anti. For genocide.

Did it make you feel like a real piece of shit? Like you do nothing. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's the service. Everybody had been doing it for sort of like nothing. You know, there was a guy there who had been a school principal, and granted, he got paid for that, but he'd gone above and beyond what was required.

He'd been to multiple schools, set up like bilingual classes in schools. There was a guy who was all about the environment. It was very impressive to see people get rewarded. And I think the highlight was when my Auntie Sylvia sat down with a QSM medal on. The nice one. And my cousin, very nice. And my cousin Casey said, it looks like the back of the old 50 cent piece. Oh, Jesus.

No, it doesn't. It's a nice middle. Oh, my God. This whole family from Morrinsville really bricking the time down. We had a great time. This is a classy event. This is a classy bunch of people. My God.

I want one one day. I quite like one. My marching coach had one for services to marching. Really? Yeah. Okay. Changed a lot of women's lives, I guess.

Good for your auntie. Very proud of her on your behalf. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a proud family moment. What were your services before though, Hayley? I was just thinking.

Services to bringing joy to the masses. Services to Prosecco. Services to the Prosecco industry. Yes. But single-handedly keeping it afloat.

Actually served a very nice champagne as part of high tea as well. Oh. I bet it did. Very nice. Ghosting. Very popular dating, not only a term, but action, I guess. You can ghost your friends. You can ghost anyone. You can ghost your husband if you wanted to. People do. People do. They literally just action, I guess. Well, you can ghost your friends. You can ghost anyone.

You could ghost your husband if you wanted to. People do. People do. They literally just go, I'm out. Not even that. They're just gone. They're gone. Like little girls.

They go. I mean, it's just easier, isn't it? It is easier. And particularly when it's in a dating term where you're like, oh, we haven't actually formed a relationship yet. We've just been seeing each other or we've been sleeping together. Cut you out. I don't respect you enough to tell

you why I'm going. Apparently we're not doing that anymore. It's called anti-ghosting which is literally just proactively sending a message to the person to communicate your lack of romantic interest in them. Anti-ghost. Just tell them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we go on a date. Maybe we've even slept together. And then I'll just text you and be like, hey, thanks for the date. Don't pull a face. You would be lucky to sleep with me. All of you would be lucky to sleep with me.

You wish. I never really thought about it. You wish. Oh, as if. You all think about it. It hasn't, I can be honest. I never really thought about it. You wish. Oh, as if. You all think about it. It hasn't, I can be honest, it hasn't really crossed my mind.

I walked in this morning and the security guard said, oh, looking good today. And he's right. I am. And you've all thought about it at one point or another during this show.

Don't lie to me. Lie to my face like that. Anyway, so say we've done that. I mean, what we've just experienced in the last 20 seconds is one of the reasons why I've not really considered that.

And also, I didn't bring my passport and we're going to Australia in 30 minutes, so... Where is your fiancé? Is he in the car? Well, when Aaron says he's in the car, it means he's like, you know, thinking about the car. Do you not have him on Fine Friends? No, no, no, no, we don't.

We trust each other too much. Aaron, if you're listening, stop for a coffee, mate. Enjoy yourself. Pop into McCafe where you can get a fletch. Hit it. Drive through and get a cup of barista-made McCafe coffee on the go. Bingo. He could do that, actually.

Should we take some orders? We'll just slow him down. I wouldn't mind some hash browns. No, don't. We haven't even left for the airport and my blood is boiling. Anyway, so basically you could do it like saying, hey, thanks for meeting up last night, you lucky, lucky boy. Thanks for meeting up last night.

You were so lucky to sleep with me. And having the privilege of making love to me. You seem chill, but we're looking for different things. I hope that you find what you're looking for. Or like, hey, more of a friend's vibe. Not came for another date, but good luck. It seems brutal, though. It seems brutally honest.

And then they say if you receive an anti-ghosting message, it can be a little bit like, oh, my gosh. Even if you're not even that interested, you're just like, oh, my ego. So the way they say that you can go about this is if someone gives you a message like that and there's something in it that you agree, like, hey, I had a really nice night too.

Put that back to them. And then you just say, thanks for not ghosting. Like, I really appreciate that you took the time to let me know and thank you very much and good luck to you. Okay, well, there we go. Let's try this out. This sounds like it requires two mature adults. Yeah. It does feel

like that, doesn't it? You never get two mature adults. Otherwise they'll click and they'll be like, hey, you are another mature adult. Let us be mature adults together. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day, day, day.

Today's fact of the day and the final fact of the day and road sign week. Do you know, I just have to say, Vaughan, I'm just loving these themed weeks. You're doing such a good job. Oh, thanks. Hayley, you're... Thanks. You're also here. That's important.

No, I wasn't giving that compliment in order to get one in return, actually. That was just for you. But if you were, that was not a compliment. But if you were to say something nice, that was not it. No, I appreciate your passion for Fact of the Day. I do. Often afterwards you'll say that's very interesting,

whereas Fletch has become complacent with my love and unappreciative of it. Well, I just need high standards, and a lot of the time they're not met. I do not toe-talk all that sentiment. Thank you. I think you do a great job. You come up with five freaking facts about road signs. Work harder to impress me

daily. Carry on. Here we go. Today's fact of the day takes us to India, to the area of Darjeeling, which you may know from the 2007 Wes Anderson film The Darjeeling Limited. Not one of his most popular, but I love it. Express or Limited?

Limited. Express. Limited. They are on a train, which is why I had to Google it as well, because I thought it was the Express, but it wasn't. It was The Darjeeling Limited, which was in India on a train. Now, that's correct. It is the same area of India, but it is the road

beside that very famous railway that we want to talk about. Because it has some of the most interesting road signs in the world. It's a very unpaved, often unpaved, mountainous and remote road. But the road signs on it have become a tourist attraction. Okay. Because they're all a little bit quirky. And by the way, they didn't start out meaning to be like, hey, we're quirky. They wanted them to be ones that the locals would read and they're a little bit longer

to keep them alert. Right. Right. Okay. Because that is driving. For example, some of the road sign says, after whiskey, driving is risky. Not wrong. Yeah.

And they often got a lot of spelling mistakes in them as well. Be cautious. Life is risky. Not wrong. Yeah, and they often got a lot of spelling mistakes in them as well. Be cautious, life is precious. Precious spelt very incorrectly. The I, the O and the U in the last part of precious all muddled up. Some of the other ones, and traditionally these were road signs painted on concrete or rock so that that kind of tells you how long they've been around and how old they are. Right.

And often marked with the elevation at the site of the sign and how far down the road you are. A cat has nine lives. You only have one. Use it wisely. That's beautiful, actually. Put that on a T-shirt. Please tell me they've got a make it click one.

Do they ever make it click? They do have multiple ones about I'm using your seatbelt. Donate blood in the blood bank, not on this road. Oh, ruthless. Don't watch her behind. Keep safety in mind. Okay. So don't perv.

Don't go looking around having to perv at a tush. Yeah, keep watching the car in front of you so you don't make any mistakes. Yeah, actually, that's very heteronormative. It is. That the man's driving and he's looking at a tush. Yeah, keep watching the car in front of you so you don't make any mistakes. Yeah, actually, that's very heteronormative. It is. That the man's driving and he's looking at a woman. Woman perv too. We do. Don't they? All the time. The rule of the road is a paradox.

Quiet. Keep to the left and you are always right. Well, that's good. What about don't be a dick, make it click. That'd be a good make a click. Yeah, that would be a good one, but they don't have any. Are these signs all in English? Yes. Yeah, because otherwise the rhymes wouldn't work.

Yeah. Are they for tourists? Well, no, not originally. A lot of the people, because you've got to remember, India was a British colony. Yes. For many, many, many years. So while people spoke a whole bunch of different languages, primarily

the written language they were taught in schools would have been English. I will say I hate the colonisation of India from the British, but I loved the aesthetic. Oh yeah, like Bangalore Polo Club. Yeah. You know, everyone's in

white cottons and there's always these bars. Beautiful pergolas You know, all those sort of like, everyone's in like white cottons and there's always these bars. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they've got a bit of like. Beautiful like, beautiful pergolas outside. Yes. Often with a mosquito net. The hats. Terrible what they did to the country.

Well, that was where gin and tonic was invented, right? Because of the, what is that thing in gin? Wait, so now we're pro-colonisation? Not juniper. No, it's in the tonic. What's in the tonic? Juniper berries. Quinine.

Quin-quin-something. Quinine. Quinine was a mosquito repellent, so you drink gin and tonic to keep the mosquitoes away. Wow. That's actually why you never get bit in Hayley. We're not trying to. That's great.

Yeah, that's great. Some of the more controversial signs on the road, enjoy your ride, don't commit suicide, which obviously has been taken down. Life is short, don't make it shorter, and lots of them. So if you're ever in the area, in the high country of Darjeeling, keep an eye out for the road signs because they are quirky and interesting.

Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. I mean, this is just a freebie for the girlies because I have been on the hunt for the most comfortable bra that doesn't make your tits look sad. I'm going to say it. What does a sad breast look like? Like that. Like nothing's being held right.

And they're out. They're out. Okay. And they're down and they're pointing down. And it's just. You're really our friend, James, gay friend James is in the studio and he just doesn't know where to look right now. James, do you think that my breasts look particularly good today?

Please don't address James as gay friend James. James is just James. No, because I've got straight James. I've got two straight friends called James. Yes, and Gay James just said the name for his new look today. What, do you call your straight friends straight James or are you just labelling? Okay, if I had a gay friend called Vaughan,

you would be straight Vaughan. I'm sorry, you just turned to straight Vaughan. Would gay Vaughan just be Vaughan? It just depends who demands the name more. Yeah, totally. You know, who demands the name more. Yeah. Yeah, totally. You know, who earns the name more. Yeah. Right.

Anyway, I've always, because I don't, I'm not here for an underwire. Life's too short. I don't want to deal with that. Plus, I've always had a smaller chest and so I've never needed to. And then in the last two years and 20 kgs,

I have had a bigger chest and still wear underwire, no underwire. And then I feel like, oh, I'm looking a bit sad. And so I found the best bra. And I need to tell the girlies at the producer's booth about this bra. Is it bend on?

It's bend on. Is it? It's bend on. Oh, my God. I'm taking notes. Sad equals out and down. Sad equals out and down. And how would you describe the opposite of sad breasts?

Would they be happy breasts? Happy breasts are like up but comfortable. Because like an underwire bra that like really clenches in it, you feel it the whole time and it's in the shoulders and it's awful. Whereas this bra, I've just sent it to the group chat, it's called the Bend On Comfort Collection Soft Cut Plunge Bra I have never this was not gifted to me

Unpaid endorsement Unpaid endorsement Right Comes in white black that I'm wearing What are they calling this colour? That's because of your

nude goth aesthetic right? That's why you're a black bra because you're a what are you an upmarket goth? What are you calling yourself? And I'm wearing black undies as well They have to All black

Posh goth Posh goth It comes in latte which yourself? And I'm wearing black undies as well. They have to. All black. Posh goth. Posh goth. It comes in latte, which I would call a Pakeha nude. Yeah. And then it comes in mocha, which I would call a nude for your darker skin tones.

Right. It's unbelievable. It's unreal, girls. This looks good. No underwire, but it's not, not, it's like got a stitch underwire,

but it's not a wire. It looks on the website, it's got a cross back, which will give you that support. You can change it. You can change it. You can change it. You can change it. How are the nipples feeling?

Uninterrupted. Uninterrupted. Not chafed, not rubbed. Up and pointing in the right direction. I can't see if I guessed the right brand. Bend On. Yeah. And it's a soft sort of, it's a buttery soft fabric.

Name another bra brand. You only said Benon because it is literally the only one you know. Brazen Things. That's a shop. That's a shop, okay. Pleasure State. You know that one. Bonds to Bonds.

Yeah, Bonds does others. Johnny Vegas. Jockey. Honey Vegas. Yeah, Honey Vegas for the young girls when they started wanting cheap, racy bras. I cannot recommend enough, ladies. This is a game changer. Because I hate real bras.

That's why I always rock around with a cami and then I always say to everyone, I give a little titter slap and I go, look how sad that looks. Because they do. They're doing nothing. Right. Now, when you were talking about sad,

you said out and down, but happy is up and comfy. What about in? Yeah, yeah, yeah. More up and in. What about in? Yeah, yeah, yeah. More up and in. Not pouring to the side. Forward. And comfy. But not squeezing together like cleavage, which is uncomfortable. I'm going to ask my wife her breasts mood. Okay, and just

to keep things balanced and fair for everybody listening, Vaughan next will give us a review on his latest jockstrap purchase. His jockstrap purchase, absolutely. Which is fantastic. Looking forward to that. Something for all the genders.

Well, that is our show today. If you missed any of the show, also we had Bad News Bran on. Hayley just shut the laptop. The show wasn't finished. We're mid-Zoom. I can still hear you, my friend, and that's all I need. I shut my laptop too

oh wow okay well I was going to zoom over shut your laptop I was going to shut my laptop before and I was like I don't want to hurt

one's feelings because I know it really hurt yeah it really hurt we're audio only now is this what it feels like when you're at my place and I start packing up

around you yes yes Vaughn you're clinging the bottles putting them in the recycling bin we'll get it dragging around okay I don't like being on this end of it.

Dragging it around. But it's time to leave, so get out of my house. Big blank sack making us put our empty bottles in there. And keep going. Well. So we had on the show earlier Bad News Brad, economist. We've recorded a special podcast with him with all of your questions about the economy and things like mortgage rates and savings.

All the fun stuff. All the fun stuff. All the fun stuff. Yeah. The greats are all grown up stuff. Have you seen the post on our, speaking of the podcast, our international podcast family, which is a closed Facebook group that you can request permission to join, of which I will see how long you've been a member of Facebook.

Because if you've only been a member of Facebook for two weeks, you're a spam bot. I won't add you. You're probably a dirty bot. You're probably a dirty bot. You're a dirty bot. But after our chat about bad news, Brad, and like we all wish we'd locked in our mortgages for five years in 2021, a whole bunch of people who did are like, I did.

And I'm like, shut up. Yeah, get out. Delete them from the group. You can download the podcast wherever you podcast. Also, part of the ZM Podcast Network Network Hope is Real Season 2 is back with Jazz Thornton. You can text hope to 9696 for the link. Your friend...

Eli Mathewson is the guest, I believe, in the next episode and it's great and it's Mental Health Awareness Week so it's a great podcast to listen to because she talks a lot about that and I've really enjoyed that podcast so listen to it wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, apparently being the company's most successful podcast isn't enough. They want us to tell people to tell more of their friends.

So people are clearly liking it, but we have to tell them to tell others to like it. I would concentrate more on the shitter podcasts that the company makes. Yeah, same. You know, the real losers out there. Same. No, no, no, we'll just. Yeah. Maybe we won't say nice.

Maybe we should even encourage people to listen to other podcasts that the company makes. Yeah. No, but only after ours. Yeah, nah, nah, don't do that. And not more than ours. Give us a sexy little review, though. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.