ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 24th April 2026

Episode Date: April 23, 2026

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From the ZM Podcast Network. This is Fleshwood and Haley's Big Pod. Brought to you by Chemist Warehouse. The biggest brands of the lowest prices. Thank you, Susie. Good morning. Happy Friday. Happy long weekend to Eve.

Oh, yes. Haley back, joining us today from our Brisbane Studios. We've got ZM Studios all around the world, don't we? All around the country. We really are worldwide. I am Mrs. 309. You are Mrs. 309. You are Mrs. Pitbull.

I tell you what, that day off yesterday was the most necessary thing I've ever taken, so thank you for holding the show. But I will be telling you later on in the show why that's already been ruined. At 1.30 a.m. this morning, Brisbane time. But anyway, we'll get to that a little bit later. There was some good to come out of it because there is a follow-up to the dress saga where you were... Yeah, ongoing. Tell you what, the listeners are invested in this journey.

Did, Haley? My DMs have been blown up. I know Shannon's been... bloody, warding off calls? Did Haley get a refund for the dress she didn't want to buy and she tried to return? Could she return it for the second time and get

her money back? We'll find out this morning after 8 o'clock. And top six is soon? Yeah, top six things I would have done with $500 at the age of Fort at 17. This is a David Samor initiative. Yeah. That every 17 year old should get $500 to invest. Yeah,

a little kind of floating the idea. Yeah. God, He triggers me like Jacinda triggers old white men. Like you just want to automatically hate what he says but sometimes you agree. But I'm like maybe that's a good idea because it gets people learning about investment.

I totally agree. Yeah, but you only get one shot at the 500 and do you think you'd be investing it? No, not what I was at. Does it come in the form of an investment coupon? Surely. I don't know. So you can't just rock $500?

Just an idea at this stage. Maybe the top of six things, I wish I had invested $500 in at the age of 17. Oh yeah, yeah. And then I can tell you what they'd be worth now. Yeah, great idea. Next on the show, and fitting in very interesting and suspicious that yesterday,

Haley left Sydney because something interesting happened in Sydney. And Haley was here at the time, that's all we're saying. I'm sorry, this is slander. Is this slander right now? Something raining down in the skies of Sydney. And you were staying in an apartment. The Fletchborn and Haley Big Pod

I think it's fair to say we're here at the show Enjoy a story about a serial pupper Queens Town and Invercoggle Pools looking at you Yeah that's a We really will like to solve that don't we Well I think that person has either retired Or is in prison

You know like when a series on those TV shows Those cop TV shows Yeah and they go to prison for something else right Yeah and then they start like Murdering again or start doing crimes And then they're like go through the list of Who's been released from people? prison.

Yeah. Well, a cereal purper is happening in a Sydney shopping precinct. I've looked it up. It's South Village located in Kirawee, 25 kilometres south of Christchurch, Sydney. Now, somebody is dropping fecese from above. From the balcony. From the balconies. Now, Haley, you said you were staying in Surrey Hills.

I was on the fifth floor of an apartment in Surrey Hills. So I don't know the distance here. No, Surrey Hills is far close in the central something case away. I think you're off the hook. It's not you. Yeah, to validate my innocence, you know, how solid was the fecese? Oh, because you've still got barley belly. Because you know I haven't taken a solid log in three weeks.

Yeah, it definitely has a splatter effect. Oh, this is, why is someone doing, they can't be all there in the head, right? No, get a better hobby. Sunday afternoon, 4.30, Denise was returning to her car, parked outside the popular cafe, 7th Heaven. Okay. And sounds like there'd be a good eggs, Benny there.

When she was getting the kids into the car, she heard a heavy thud. Oh, heavy thud. And then some onlookers approached and said, what's this on your car and oh no. A bird isn't capable of what's on the on the bonnet of a car.

Would you go through the service station car wash on the way home? Would that take care of that? If you got it fresh and didn't let it bake. Smear, do you reckon those this looks like getting, this looks like a hose off. Yeah, solid scrub situation to me.

Yark. And so someone's been, you say cereal. Somebody's been doing this a lot. Yes, because somebody else uploaded their, Tesla's dash cam and Michelle, whose name it is,

experienced a near identical encounter at the same location. 6.30 on March 14, she returned to a Tesla after picking up dinner to find a foul smell coming from the car. She didn't see it happen, but poo was on the bonnet of her Tesla. What the hell?

So she checked the Tesla's always running dash cam. Yeah. And saw it thudder. Oh, gosh. This is outrageous. So it's Coming from above. This is, you know, this is something I'd expect from Shannon's apartment building.

Meth towers. It's giving meth towers, hey. Because wasn't someone at your apartment building throwing just their rubbish off the balcony? Yeah, there was a notice put on all the elevators being like, stop throwing food. We've hired someone to watch the security cameras 24-7. If you're caught throwing food, you'll be evicted. There's now a new notice by the elevators saying,

hey, stop putting rubbish on your balcony. And I saw an eviction notice on my neighbours the other day. Oh, that's giving me. And I went and had a look, because, like, you know, it was early in the morning. I was like, there's nowhere they're going to catch me looking. And it was in their door, but by the time I saw it, they'd put it on the floor, so I think they're a bit annoyed.

Right. But they got told off for having stuff outside their apartment, because we're not allowed stuff, you know? You're not allowed stuff on your balcony? Yeah, or it was on their, like, door. They were hanging, washing every day. Is this what you've sent through here? These are the breach notices.

They've highlighted the one that they broke. Yeah. Some of the other things you can be evicted from Shannon's apartment for, feeding pigeons or birds. It's a real big issue with the pigeons. Anti-social behavior, unauthorized parking, excessive noise, damage property and incorrect color curtains. Yeah, no. The most important one. No, do you know that, I hate that?

Because do you remember there was that person over the road from me in the apartment building that had purple curtains? Yeah. And everyone else was white. It's like, stop it. Oh, yeah, that's awful. They just wanted to express themselves. No, that's actually a common thing with apartments. That's in our apartment rules.

The backing of curtains has to be white. You don't have purple curtains. No, but you can have purple curtains, but the backing has to be white so that from the street, it all looks the same. I like that rule. Do you think that, like, behaviour one would get the man kicked out that, like,

jumped out at Shannon from the elevator? Yeah, it was like that kind of thing and jumped out at it? I do know what he does for work now, and it involves dealings every day. Yeah. We run into each other a lot. I would say that falls under antisocial behaviour.

Yeah, that would probably be. Yeah, selling drugs. Yeah. Okay, I was being coy. Maybe it's... Don't come for me. Don't jump out in the elevator again. Right.

Okay, I'm sure he's asleep. You did sign that lease as well, didn't you? Yeah, another year, guys. Woo! Yeah. Yay! Guys, it's content. It's content.

The Fletchbourne and Haley Big Pod. From the Fletchhorn and Haley group chat, this is the top six. Hi there. A idea to give every 17 year old $500 to invest is the latest from David Seymour

who got a pseudo-effigrine pills and a solution to a racist nana that won't shut up. You can put her down. She had to be hot to be put it down. But, I mean, why not? Yes, it's not like socialism to me though. Yeah, well, it's not.

As long as they don't do it like your course-related costs, we get $1,000 and you don't ever have to verify that you spend it on course-related costs. Yeah, or you get a mate to fake you up. Yeah, I'm selling them my laptop for $500. Yeah. Yeah. So I have chucked into AI. If I'd been given $500 in 1999 when I was 17 and I'd invested,

what would I have been best invest to make some money? Okay. And this is in... Is it in... Specific shares, not like managed funds? Okay. Is this in today's share? Care price.

Correct. Okay. Correct. This is going to suck. You know what? Craily at number six is Microsoft. Wow. If you'd invested $500 in 1999,

you would have approximately $2,000,000 New Zealand dollars now. You'd think more, right? You would think more. The safe bet. In 1999, Microsoft was the blue chip. Everybody's obvious pick, but it's hit the dot-com peak

and then flatlined for 16 years. Right. The $500 would have barely tripled. in the time since then in the 27 years. What does it say what the percentage? Because would you have been better in like a saving? Not really. A term deposit would have done you better.

A term deposit would have done you better. It literally says that a term deposit would have done you better. Number five on the list of the top six things I could have invested in a 1999 for $500 and how much money I would have made. Amazon, I'd have $65,000 New Zealand dollars. Because at the time it was an internet bookshop that it was already darling of the doctor. com in 1999, but you would have watched it crater by 95% in 2001 too. So, yeah, right.

Okay. That's insane. Number four on the list is of the top six things I could have invested $500 in in 1999 and where we'd be at now is book holdings, price line. I'd have $120,000 New Zealand dollars. What do they do? Bookholdings price line. Price line, I know that one.

That's what it's become. There's a pharmacies in Australia. Price line. Isn't that the pharmacies in Australia price line? I don't know. There's some price lines here. I'm not familiar with pharmacies in Australia. In Australia?

Just the chemist warehouse. No, it's a major American travel tech company based in Connecticut. The price line group. So they own booking.com and a whole bunch of, they own kayak, go to rental cars.com, open table. But like boring. And, you know, if I was 17, I'm not investing in like a, you know, travel company online thing.

So if you had, it would have gone up and then it would have lost 99% of its value in the dot-com crash in the early 2000s. And then if you held on to that, your 500 would become $120,000. Wow. By now. Not bad.

Number three on the list of the top six things I could have invested $500 in 1999 and when I was 17 and what they'd be worth now. Monster Energy. Was that even around then? Stop it. It was 1995 it was launched onto the stock market.

And it is an average growth of 32.6% average annually. So my $500 would now be worth approximately $350,000 New Zealand dollars if I'd invested in Monster Energy. Wow, okay. It feels a really lovely return. That is a lovely return. Number two and slightly better than Monster Energy would have been if I had invested in 1999, my $500 at the age of 17, and Apple.

Oh, yeah. Steve Jobs had only just returned in 1999. and the, it was just like weeks away from like going kaput. And then he came back, gave it the boost that needed. And if I put $500 in a 1999, I'll now have between $750 and $1 million New Zealand dollars. $750,000 and $1 million. From $500. From $500 in 1999.

That's insanity. Because you would have bought at its tank. It was tanking. It was at its lowest. You know that like time machine quixing. wish, Jeney, the answer's 9099. Do you know what I'm going back and I've just got 5-hundred? Like I can find 5-Hundi.

Like, yeah, we can just jump on the time machine with scrounge 500 right now. We'll go back. Totally. Yeah, and we can afford the petrol now. Yeah, we could. Oh my God, the petrol then. We wouldn't be caring about the petrol right now. When we come back in the time machine, can we bring some petrol with us? Would have been in the 90s, 90s?

99. 99 was when it first had a dollar. Yeah, that's not. And now it's at $3 something. We could be tripled in our money. I don't know what our power. what our time machine runs on, hopefully not petrol. It's going to cost us a fortune to get back in time,

but coming back to now will be so cheap. Yeah, yeah. And number one on the list of the top six things I could have invested $500 in a 1999. Give us a clue. Amazon. It's had a couple of real big dips, but it's back.

Oh, Palaton. No. They haven't recovered since he had a hard attack on sex in the city. Where I thought they were going to, because I chucked some money into Palatant at the time, remember? On Chies. On Chazis and that didn't happen. Navita.

Oh, yeah. Well, they're the number one company right now, right? They are. Correct. Correct, correct, correct. If you'd invested $500 in 1999, it would have gained 3752,000 percent. So what would it be worth now? 1.7 million New Zealand dollars.

From $500. From $500. It's the best performance of any S&P 500 stock. over that period. A $10,000 stake in when it IPO, like when it launched onto the stock market, would now be worth $37.2 million.

Oh, shit. I really... So it's spent my paper on money now on Navidia. Yeah, if you don't know what it is, it's basically a gaming graphics... Not Naviya games. Yeah. It's a... Well, it is. It's a gaming graphics chip company. Yeah. So, no one in 1999

was thinking, AI is going to need these things to entirely run. Yeah, AI has just cause them their price to just go through the roof. Didn't they overtake Apple to be the richest company? Yeah. If you, you'd have to have watched it fall 99% in the dot-com crash. So I went from $30 a share to 50 cents a share.

I would have bought then. Then, Ty Hall, another 66% crash in 2022 before the AI wave hit. Sit it out. We're all good. And then it's absolutely skyrocketed since the AI take off. Well, that just makes you think now, like, what should I invest in my sharesies now

and sit on it for 25, 30 years. I've only started investing in the last couple of months. I don't even know. I want, like, I want this story when I'm 65. This is the analogy for Nevada. If AI is the gold rush, Navita sells the shovels, and there's only one shovel shop.

Oh, wow. Okay. It's worth $4.9 trillion. Same. Okay. Same. No, you're not, Han. Same.

You're not, no. Same. How's your shares these? Oh, did I just log. There's only $300 in there. I don't even have enough. The 17-year-olds have more money to invest than I do. Invita, I've been saying it wrong.

Navidia, yeah. Invidia. What? Invidia. Invidia. I invidia. Invidia. It doesn't matter.

We didn't invest. It doesn't matter how it's. Invidia. It doesn't matter because we know how many shares. Yeah, who cares. We suck. That is the I subsop. The Z&M Podcast Network.

Now, I just want to preface this little break here by apologising in advance to our Greek listeners. Okay. Specifically. Because TikTok has announced its latest food trend. It's giving big, we've just come up with this. Or like we've invented this as an idea. Yeah.

Because you'd say in sort of general white world that we would eat yogurt primarily as part of something more sweet, like it with fruit or honey or. in a smoothie or something like that, usually. And then we've really butchered it and made things like petite me yum and Viongyangong, yeah. And the chocolate pudd, um, yogurt. Chocolate pud one's bottles. Yeah. What's the chocolate pud pud pud?

Dairy food. Yeah. What's that called though? Yeah, it can't be called yogurt technically, right? That's what they call dairy food. It's put. It's putt. But we call it yogurt.

I haven't had one of those for years. Maybe I'll treat myself. I'll treat yourself. It's terrible. It's terrible. It's a fanny P. as well I don't think it well I don't think we call it yogurt

no no I don't think we're putting dairy food anywhere near our fanis for pH purposes now so TikTok's new viral food trend is savory yogurt which is say you greet yogurt with tomatoes and meats

and say cucumbers and say maybe a lamb cougher or something like that huge viral trend just basically what the Middle East and Turkey and lots of cultures have been doing forever since the fifth Century Bacy, yeah, you're correct. So what I love is people be like, oh my God, guys, you have to try this.

Try yogurt, but it's savory. So here I am and you're like, oh, my God, babe. I'll admit, I'm like to this trend. It was probably like last year when I started using Greek yogurt all the time. Like every time I go shopping, I get a big, I get a big liter of Greek yogurt. Good protein. Good for your guys. Way less fat.

You can use it in place of like sour cream and stuff and you don't even really notice the difference. Yeah. Oh, like mayonnaise if you make a good. your sources and stuff, use Greek yoga instead. I just wanted to sort of apologize. I just wanted to look at the history because your Greeks have consumed yogurt-like

products for millennia. But also South Asia I'm just Googling, South Asia would use a lot of you know the yoghurt and cooling meals. So it's called Greek yogurt but it's technically Turkish, eh? Is it? Yeah, it's Turkish of origin.

Oh. So it's like strained yogurt was the difference and apparently put down to a Greek immigrant who's actually Turkish. Oh, because that's what makes it Greek yoga because it's thick. Yeah, it's strained yoga. Yeah. It's Chobar. He founded a company called Chobani in New York in 2005.

And everyone was like, he's Greek. So it's Greek yogurt. Right. And then it took off. But he was like, no, actually, I'm sure I came from Greece, but my family, like, I'm Turkish. Right. God, I'm not anti this trend at all. Yeah, I mean, it's young.

There's a lot of young Gen Zays. Gen Alpha's on there being like, guys, crazy idea. Breakthrough in the food world. It's also the next on the list. You know how the EU said you can't call it champagne unless it's grown in champagne? And you can't call it Pamiano-Ragiano unless it's from that region. The thing of doing it to Greek yogurt too. And Feta?

Feta was another one. Yeah. Bloody E. Yeah, you. Bloody E. You. Don't crazy. The Zat-M Podcast Network.

Play Zatty. Fletch Fawn and Haley Fletfoil Silly, silly, silly that's silly Have you a single Would you date someone With the same name as you? Not the full name, eh?

Just the first name? You'd be pretty rude if they had both names It means you wouldn't There'd be marriage There'd be no need for name changing There would definitely be people that get married They end up with the same name If they were both Sam say

And they had, you know, a unisex name Yeah It's quite funny Yeah, it is Haley and Haley would be fun I'm just going to Google a list of unisex names. Alex would be another one. Yeah, Alex.

It could be Patricia. I mean, this would happen with the gays all the time, especially with the mats. Oh, so, because every second age. It's 9-6-96. If you're a gay mat who's dated in another mat, what was that like? 9-6-96. Yeah, hit us with a gas.

9-6-9-96. Or any gay and lesbian listeners. Have you dated someone with the same name? Was that? Okay, here's the world's top 10 gender-neutral names. Okay. Noah is in at one.

I've never met a female Noah. Really? I think that would be lovely though. Great name for a female. Yeah. James. Really? Sometimes of the alternative spelling or sometimes just James.

I've never met a female James. And I've never met a female Evelyn. But Evelyn's number three. No. The name derives... What a shit list? The name derives from an English surname. It was first used as a boy's name in the 17th

century before it back and popular is a girl's name. What else is on the? What about Shannon? Shannon's, I know, I've known male. I've known, or Kellys. Yeah, there's been some tallies. I dated two male Kellys back in my day. I think you've got to go.

Harper. I think your AI is broken. It's not AI. It's a... Harper? It's a name survey. Harper. Harper for... Because of Harper Lee, who was the author of... Yeah, I know a few... I know a couple of guys called Harper.

Michael? But alternative spelling, but said the same. Michel? Logan? Logan is a common gender neutral name since the 1980s. In Scottish Gaila, Logan Lee means Little Hollow. There's Avery, there's Madison, there's Riley and there's Jaden. Well, we asked you, would you date someone with the same name today?

Cilidapol question. 54% of you said no way. Oh, really? 46% of you said, yeah, why not? I think it's just people without. But in your mind, they're so hot, eh? But yeah, I was like, what if they're one, they're really, really hot or two, they're like your soulmate? Are you going to say no because their name's Haley?

Yeah, you'd give them a nickname, right? Hales and Haley. Yeah. Well, Harriet says as a straight female, it would be very odd to meet a male, Harriet. Yeah, it would. That reason alone, I feel, is enough to go on at least one date with them. Yeah.

I sort of do. I'm a Patricia and my partner is Patrick. Pat and Pat and Pat. But we go by Patty and Trish. Oh, okay. Oh, right. Oh, I reckon you should go by Pat and Pat. Pat and Pat.

Pat Pat. Pat. Are you guys inviting Pat Pat Pat Pat? Is Pat Pat coming? Is Pat Square coming? Yeah. Love it. Two Pat.

Two Pat. Tu Pat. Oh my God, that's brilliant. That's a couple name. And you just play Tupac whenever they comes up. Two Pat. Allie said, same name as me is fine. Same name as my dad or brother, so eff-in-lutely not.

Oh, yes. That's an okay. I'm not whispering sexy things to a Craig. Yeah, it would be weird. It would be really weird. Leisha said, the concept of a man named Leisha is weird. I'm straight. I've met Danny and Danny.

Oh, you said that was a Daniel and a Daniel, but they both went by Danny and Danny or Dan Pack? No, it doesn't work. Dan Pack doesn't work. Doesn't work. Dan Dan noodles? Dan Dan noodles. Dan Dan noodles.

I call them Dan Dan noodles. What's that? I love that. What about Dan Dan? Thank you, ma'am. Yeah, that's good. That's good. Brian said, I said no, but I am second guessing because I am by.

So, no, no, the same name would be weird. Brian. Yeah. I don't even think if you were a dude hooking up with another dude, you wouldn't be hooking up with a Brian. No offense. Bri. We'll call you Bri. Call you bri. Your man.

Too brii. No, it doesn't work. Bro, bro, noodles. Anyways, Tomazina said, my name gets shortened to Tom a lot and there are a lot of Tom's out there. So it could be a possibility that I, we get a little too Tom.

Okay. A little Tom, Tom, drum. Yeah. We could come up with... We should do this one day on the show. Let's come up with your couple name. Yeah. You ring and you tell us your names.

You're brainstorming. I love that. I love that. I love that idea. Let's do that next week, I reckon. Let's do that next week. Let's pencil. that in for a rock hard next week.

A rock hard next week when we're all feeling really like good and creative and maybe a bit well because we have to have good brains. Not a Friday. Yeah. I can't shake this cold at all by the way. Yeah. It's just a no... It really hits you. Yeah. God damn it. I dated a Stephen once and I'm a Steph, but it was Stephen with a pH.

Steph and Steph and Steph. Does that count? If I was single, I probably wouldn't say no to Steph Curry either. Oh yeah. Not many people would. Yeah. It's a hot hot basketball. I'd love to be Mrs. Curry as well. Like, what a great last name. Yeah.

One of my biggest passions in life. Curries. Yeah. And now it's your name. No, and also not if they fell in a long drop. See stuff, lady. See stuff article. Poor lady.

What? This is from an Alex. It's a really confusing. Alex fought in a long drop. Really confusing. You're going to need a bit of backstory there. A bit of backstory there. A little bit of back story there.

Dana said, yuck, no. Just having to send an email to someone with the same name is gross. Hi, Dana. Imagine having a male and female Danas. Yeah, Dana Carvey and Dana Kirkpatrick. And that's all you've got. Yep. Joan and Ed one example.

You do. That's how life works. So for silly little poem, if you're a single, would you date someone with the same name as you? 46% of you said, yeah, why not? Play Z-Ns, flesh one and Haley. Under construction for so long, and this weekend it is getting a baptism of fire.

In Christchurch, the new stadium, with Super Rugby Round, there, games, games, games, games, games. And joining us to talk about rugby games, games, games, games, games. Sky's Jeff Wilson, good morning. Morning, just five of them. Only five games, games, games. I said five.

You did. You didn't count them, Chief. But today it's just game. It starts today, tonight. And for a lot of Christchurch people, this will be their first time in the new stadium. Have you had a look yet? Have you had a little wander round? Man, we were really lucky last night.

We did a live show from inside the stadium. I did a special preview for the weekend coming up and what's happening. And it's awesome. It really is. They've left no stone unturned. It's going to be pretty incredible three days, really, to be honest. There's plenty of energy around the city. It's cold down here.

But you know what? It doesn't matter anymore because they've got a roof on it. They've got a roof. I've said this before. Christchurch is now a New Zealand's call a city. Yep. Well, that's still a big call. Huge cool.

Big call. I know, big call. I tell you what, the inner city itself is looking fantastic, and we're lucky enough to be staying in town. It's a 10-minute walk pretty much from any direction, and you hit the stadium. And we got a sense today that, you know, it's just going to build up beautifully. It's a beautiful day down here in Christchurch.

A bit chilly, but like I say, it doesn't matter anymore. These teams are going to come out, and you talk about there's going to be a lot of fire. It's going to be all on tonight. And the Crusaders, they'll only have one job, and that's to open this stadium with a win. God, him. Oh, just the one job.

One job. A bit of pressure. Bit of pressure. What does a stadium have that the other stadiums around the country don't have? Because aren't there like big screens? I mean, obviously it's got a roof. Oh, look, it's brand new. It's just new and shiny.

You know, when things are new and shiny, it's like a brand new car. It's just like, it just smells a little bit different. It feels a little bit different. But it's the fact that everything is so purpose built, right? And everything around it's purpose built. And, you know, the fact that it's so functional, you know, I went for a bit of a tour around, and everyone's incredibly friendly. Everyone's incredibly excited.

But like I say, it's the best of the best for what we could, you know, put together here in New Zealand. And for me, it's going to become, I think, our national rugby stadium. It's got that feel about it. It really does. Yes. Okay. The bathrooms won't even. I can just see the sea of Eden Park bristling already by me just saying, you know.

Well, they don't have a roof. Maybe let's chuck a tap on that, and then we'll talk, you know? Absolutely. But it's pretty cool. It really is. Yeah, does it have the new concrete smell? I love that smell. Oh, no, it's just definitely, it's got the new carpet smell.

I can tell you that. The bathroom won't smell of urine yet. No, but like everything, like I say, it's all shiny. I'm picking, though, 25,000 people tonight. It won't be shiny by the end of the night. But guess what? They get to turn it all around again, and we do it for two more games tomorrow and out on Sunday.

So this is a great celebration. A great way to open, I think, this stadium with our national game. And pretty cool on Anzac Day, getting a Trans-Tasman game of rugby at the new stadium as well. Look, anytime we can maybe, you know, take advantage of the Australians all the better, right? I mean, we will celebrate and remember the past, of course,

but the present wants to be winning. We want to be, you know, just put them on their plane back to Australia. Look, I think the theme's great. You know, Fijian Zrua here as well. Mawana Pacifica as well. So, look, I think everyone's represented. And, you know, like I say, the Super Rugby's around a long time, 30 years, but more importantly, look, Christchurch has waited a long time, right?

Yeah. A long, long time. And they deserve this. They've been patient, and I really hope they enjoy it. Do you think the Chiefs have got what it takes, like hold the top of the table till the end now, or the, or the, still too early to call? That said, like a true Chiefs fan? Is that the way that's coming across?

He's from Lawrenceville. He's from Morinsville, so, yeah. Chief Boy. I'm hearing it. Well, actually, you're not wrong. They do have a team that can win this competition, but the Hurricanes are right there. don't underestimate the blues, and we can't trust the Crusaders. So pretty much.

Wait, am I, Jeff, am I still hurricanes because I'm from New Plymouth? No, you're us now. I'm a chase now. Wait, I'm winning now, is that right? Just pick a team. Pick a team. Okay, I'll pick the Chiefs now because they're winning. You can't switch.

No one in Taranaki was happy about when they changed those lines and you guys had to come to our team because there's a festival. Yeah, no, it's a bit rough. I'm hearing you. I'm hearing you. All right, so Jeff, all the action on SkySport this weekend? What do you think? Yes, of course it is.

That's why we're talking to him. That's why we're talking to him. You can see the brand new shiny stadium and all the action. Jeff Wilson, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us this morning. My pleasure. Have a great day, team. The Zat-N podcast network. Nearly at the end of this tour, guys.

I'm nearly home, which is good news. In broadcasting from our Brisbane studio this morning. Stop trying to claim it. I'm paying for this accommodation. You're making it seem like I'm somewhere. A few years everywhere. Yeah. Nah, but yesterday, right, I was traveling from Sydney to Brisbane for the final leg.

And I took the day off and just to recoup, get that final push going. Did you travel by kangaroo, the traditional Australian? In the pouch. Yeah. In the pouch. It's quite slimy in there. It is very slimy in there. It's really slimy.

I thought it was dry and furlined. Anyway, so I landed in Brisbane yesterday. Like set up my little radio thing and I went out to have a little explorer of the city. got home really early, and it was my chance to get that restorative sleep that I need to get through this last weekend. And I'd say 9pm, I was absolutely fast to sleep. 1.30 a.m. This is what I heard. Dude, what is fire alarm? Fire alarm.

Yeah. Evacuate now. Evacuate now. That's what the whole of the calendars turned up. Oh, my God. What? The what turned up? calendar. The whole calendar.

Okay. So. Wait, are you telling me firemen are real hot in Australia? I'm telling you. Guys. I'm telling you, right? 130 a.m., the fire alarm evacuated immediately, evacuate immediately. I lay in bed but, you know, when you're like, hmm. Do I have to? Is it a test? Is it going to

stop soon? Yeah, yeah. Then I got up and I like put on my shorts and my trainers and stuff and I went down the fire exit. People were taking the lifts. I was like, do you ever learn nothing ever? Went down the stairs, went out and man, there was a collection of funny people. There was one woman in a ball gown. I was like, she's just got home. One 30 a. There was one guy in his boxes and a pinstripe blazer. There was all sorts out there in me. And then I was... But you know the thing is because I always get my clothes ready the night before

because I get up at 4.30 and I'm like, get changed quick. Where do you put them? Just on the chair or on the... I dumped them on the bathroom floor. Beside the shower. Oh yeah, nice. Ready to go. But most people, if you don't, if you've got a lot of time in the morning, you don't get stuff ready. And I'm in a hotel, so everything's in like bundled in a suit case as well. I luckily just had a pair of shorts on the floor, so I was like, okay, and I slept in this jumper because I was cold, so I was ready to go. Anyway, so I was out there, and then I heard the fire trucks, and I was like, oh, okay,

this could be actually a thing. Fire truck turns up, and that's when I put the camera on, because I know that YouTube would be interested to know if they were sexy. And I was like, as of, you know, because of research. Just for the calendar, for the next calendar, because I don't know if people know this, but Vaughn and I put it together. We do. We choose them.

And then, so this truck pulls up, two trucks pull up, and they start pouring out. And I was like, is this a prank? Like, is this Jono and Ben and I'm being pranked right now? Because the... It was literally like the 12 months of the calendar came out. There was not a minger amongst them. And I don't mean like...

And this was the overnight shift. This is the Brisbane, the middle of the night Brisbane crew. Wow. And it's famously where they put the... genuinely, genuinely thought that this was a prank because it was like January, February, March, April, May started pouring off the thing and I was like, oh, God, you can see all the women being like, oh my God, everyone's like adjusting their boobs because we're not wearing bras, like. And then, yeah, they poured in and it was real quick. Obviously, there was nothing wrong. The alarm has just gone off.

Someone's, you know. Do you think that chick got home in her in her ball gown and put some toast on? Yeah, probably like that. Yeah, she needed to sober up a bit. And then everyone was, I missed the memo that the fire lifts, like the fire things, you couldn't go back up them. And so I started like going up to the thing with the first door and I like ran like chest to chest into, I reckon July.

And I like fumbled like an absolute idiot. Anyway, I almost told him, I'm pretty sure the fires in my bedroom, but. And that's why today you're going to start a fire in your apartment. Yeah, so I've got matches. I'm just going to, I'll get most of the show under the belt first before we've got to evacuate. The ZM Podcast Network. Play ZM's Flashawn and Haley. Joining us in studio, he is the chief executive, principal economist at Infometrics.

He's big dog on the economy. Brad Olson, good morning. Good morning. What an intro. Wow, I mean, that's as cheery as it's going to get, I remember. Now, if you've got a question, About anything. 9-6-9-6.

Anything. Anything at all. Economy and cost-a-living related. Because somebody actually said, can you ask Brad first? Because I feel like it's all going to be dreary, and then we're going to get all lost in the dreary. What's your favourite dinosaur? Oh.

Oh, Teradactal. Really? Oh, I think that might be my favour as well. No, what's the one? No, you can't steal the same. Brockosaurus. Brontosaurus. Brontosaurus.

Brontosaurus. Yeah, yeah. Fletch, what's yours? Just quickly if we're going to do. The big one that eats T-Rex. No, the big one that eats leaves. Oh, the Brontosaurus. Yeah, bronchosaurus. Yeah, that one.

Either the triceratops or the stegosaurus, I reckon. Nice. Stegosaurus, interesting. Let's get back to the economy now. Brad. 9-6-96, what's your favourite? Two things. Either what's your favourite dinosaur or do you have a question for Brad about the economy.

Yes. How screwed are we, Brad? Look, a couple of months ago, genuinely, we were looking better. Things were coming through, And then we have another like World War sort of vibes going on. Oil prices have spiked massively. I mean, the fact that at one point diesel was like $4 a liter and more expensive than petrol, that's never a good thing to the economy.

But the only, I'm not going to say it's necessarily good news yet, it's that it's not as bad as it was a couple of weeks back. I looked this morning, diesel's at like $3.40, which is still high, but not sort of as intense as before. So yes, we're in for it. Yes, we're all paying a whole lot more. But at least we might be looking like we're on a slightly better path than it going completely batty even further.

Why did petrol prices come back down? Because it's not like we've found a magic tank from the gas to power the nation, right? Things are still at like a stalemate. Was it because there was a threat of a, we might have a look into why these prices are so high petrol companies? No, no, so that's been actually happening since the very, very start.

The Commerce Commission in New Zealand came up very quickly and said, look, we understand that people are cautious and curious about this. So they started daily monitoring of those fuel prices. and I haven't seen anything yet because generally speaking, the actual price internationally for fuel went up quite a bit more than our domestic prices immediately. And so there's a sort of bit of a, I guess, slower burn

and then probably also slower burn on the way back. But what you saw with the likes of fuel prices coming back the last week or two is that there was a quote-unquote ceasefire announced. There's all this talk of, you know, everyone's negotiating for apparent peace. Let's be clear, nothing has actually changed. There's no extra oil that's flowing through the world or anything else. so there's a lot of hopium, effectively still in the system. It's coming through.

But look, I think what you're seeing is that compared to say three weeks ago when it was still like much more conflict was the focus, everyone thought that it was going to keep coming through, there was no sort of expectation that things would be resolved. Now people are going, okay, it hasn't necessarily gotten better immediately, but I can see a better pathway, and so people are starting to price that in. I do worry that maybe people are still too overly optimistic in the markets.

Well, they were just literally accused. of laying more mines in the straight this morning by the USA. So let's... Let's give it a bit of time, right? The big one for New Zealand, I think the thing that we don't talk about enough is that we're at the end of the supply chain, right? It takes 42-ish days normally for oil to come from the Middle East through to South Korea, which is our major provider, then takes them a bit of time to refine it, then another

week or a couple of weeks to send it down to New Zealand. So for us, we're always going to be a couple of weeks, maybe a couple of months delayed with this impact. So even when it starts to feel better like now, don't think that that's sort of immediately all sprinkles and rainbows. We're certainly not out the other end of it yet. And people as well learning about the byproducts of

petroleum. Condoms. We spoke about this yesterday. The largest condom maker in the world said that they're going up 20 to 30 percent. We've got to stop using condoms. Brad! Well, that's one of the things maybe don't because there are quite important uses for those.

Oh, no, Brett. Okay, well I'll guess I'll stop. No, no. That is not the advice. But again, this is true. For a lot of other products as well, you look at the likes of plastic pipes, we're hearing about medical supplies and lots of other sort of products that are coming through. That's not good. Fuel to fly around, all of that sort of stuff.

So, I mean, I think the funniest thing, though, is we've had to learn as economists a lot more about the crack spread. I know that sounds like a word to turn. You can't say that on the radio. If you're going to spread your crack, I would recommend investing in condoms, to be totally honest. That's fair. That's good.

They do go hand in hand. The crack spread is the refining cost. It's the difference between the crude oil price and what you effectively then paying for the refined oil out the other end. So the diesel, the petrol, all that on stuff. We're screwed for a while. I think we're in for a challenging couple of months, if not a little bit longer. Like, in my mind, I'm sort of working on this being a six-month thing still,

minimum in terms of how long the impacts come through. Everything open tomorrow. Yeah, that's best case scenario. Okay, questions. I'm looking currently at a list of the best advertised New Zealand bank interest rates by term. and they're all starting to go back up. Why are the people wanting to know, why are these things going up

because it's not like anybody's got any spare cash. The economy doesn't look great, right? So normally the expectation is that... They come down. Well, yeah, except that you've got prices going up. The Reserve Bank is looking at things. We had inflation out earlier this week at 3.1%. That was effectively before the war.

It's still too hot. And so what the bank is looking at and going, just like a couple of years back when we had inflation that spiked high, they're going, we don't want to let prices get too out of control. if everyone passes on the price increases, if the condom maker starts to pass it on and everyone does that,

then you get more and more generalised inflation. If that happens, then the Reserve Bank's going, I need to raise interest rates to try and curb that back, even though the economy's weak, even though employment might be a bit softer. So for the minute, the Reserve Bank said, look, they're very, very vigilant and watching closely, and they'll make and take decisive action later in the year if they need to.

Mortgage rates have already started to go up because the borrowing costs for banks, effectively the mortgage rate that the banks have themselves has already increased because everyone's so worried about inflation. So those higher prices, despite a weak economy, are starting to push higher. What you start to see some people do is they are thinking about maybe fixing for a little bit longer just around the stability. Price is already going up, but people thinking, look, I just, I'd like to lock in. 18, 24 months? I did 18 months last week because it was the lowest rate, but it's already gone up since then.

Yeah, well, and that's the thing, right, the challenge ride and the balance you've got to have in your head is, okay, lowest at the moment, but in 18 months' time you're going to have to refix, right? And what are the interest rate's going to be in 18 months? Probably not low. And so there's just thinking of like, do you go a little bit shorter because you sort of want that low rate now? Or do you potentially, and maybe it's part of your mortgage, that's what we're seeing people do splitting things up.

You might well go for a little bit longer for some of it just to try and protect yourself or give yourself some more stability. Okay, more questions in from the listeners. Well, that covered a lot of them. We're getting a lot of dinosaurs, aren't you? We're getting a lot of dinosaurs. Yeah, I knew you. You screwed that when you said that.

But that is people's biggest expense, right? Is there, what dinosaurs? Is there either their house or their vehicles? And they're dinosaurs. Because, man, feeding those things is hard. That's why we went with the leaf eaters. What is the sort of thing that my work should be doing? We have a fleet of 200 company vehicles,

and they're all telling us that it's going to get more and more expensive. Well, the question would be what sort of vehicles? Because if you've got a hybrid or an EV at the moment, man, you're looking quite smart out there at the moment, aren't you? But are you? Yeah. Because that's the thing. With power and...

You spend the money buying a brand new vehicle, and because electrics and hybrids are so hard to get because the supplies low and the demands high, they can charge a premium for them. So you've automatically taken a big hit there, and it's not free to drive them. You've got to charge them. Like, I'm driving an EV, and granted, it is a hybrid.

It is cheaper than petrol, but it's made my power go up at home. Well, I think it depends. So there's a couple things here. Generally speaking, yes, hybrids and EVs are still a lot. more effective here. We saw a big, big spike in them in the month of March, funnily enough, I think four times the number of sort of EV registrations than normal. And the most interesting thing is we saw the likes of hybrid hyluxes for commercial vehicles, Utes and that, four times the number of those that were registered in the month of March. So like there's clear interest.

The thing is, and here's the question of all, how are you charging them? Are you charging them like in the peak of the day or at like 9am in the morning? The way that it generally works out to be cheapest is if you're on one of those plans where you can charge it overnight where no one using power at 2 a.m. in the morning. That's how you've got to work it. So you think my idea is just before I go to bed, I go out and plug in the car, and that's going to be a cheaper time to charge it. But he'll forget, and then at 4 o'clock in the morning,

he's already running late. But you can, there are some of the power plans that you can get out there that effectively do this very directly. You get it so that you have an ability to charge an EV overnight or something like. And then, okay, so I plug it on when I get home, but I have the actual thing plugged in on a timer, so it doesn't actually turn on to overnight. Good idea.

I mean, and if you don't have a time or just make it part of your daily routine or your end routine, you know, have your shower, brush your teeth, turn your car on, go to bed. I'm not brush my teeth, breath. Once a day, we're coming forward the water. Okay, well, Brad, thank you very much for answering the listening questions there

and giving us an update on how we're... Give us something positive, Bradie, like just one little thing to sort of button off. No, no, Fletch, no, we don't want to end up. Okay. Well, I'm here with some of my lovely friends, including one on screen. No, no, not personally, right.

Here's one from an employer. I want to give the team a pay rise because it's a hard time, but after all of the tax deduction, student loan, Kiwi saver, I don't think it makes much of an impact for them at the end of the day. Is there a more meaningful way to provide them benefits that show that they are a valued employee in the current economy? I mean, look, money's still pretty good, right, for a lot of employees. So it might be worth it.

Some of the other stuff, though, is like, are there other things that the team is wanting a bit more? Can you make the office environment of it better? Are there sort of other things, a team trip away or similar? Don't say a pizza, don't say a pizza. You've got to make sure you don't do the pizza party sort of thing. But if you do genuinely want to say take the team away or something, there's a potential. The other one, though, one that I think is interesting.

How many prezy cards can you give before the IOD is like? Yeah, see, that's the thing. It becomes a bit. Well, here's one thing that I've heard from a lot of businesses that is genuinely useful. It helps from a tax deductibility point of view, but it's also good for people's welfare. You can get some of these different operators that are like extraordinary in that, who provide you a mental health card, effectively, or it's mental support, where basically they load some money on it

and you can spend it on stuff that makes you feel good like some people it might be like a golf membership a gym membership it might be you know no no no no it's still going to be legal legal drugs legal drugs legal drugs but you can also use it for like you can get some of them that have

provide you cheaper public transport and similar good for your wallet good for the business like it just works all around I've seen those advertisers online that people use them for the public transport so it makes getting to work cheaper So they save money. And you save on your tax bill. I mean, genius.

I really like that. A little sexy stuff, isn't it? How hard? Is that, Haley? That's good. That's what I wanted to finish on, Brad. It can't be all bad news, Brad. I can do that.

I can do that. You know, we need us a little positive spin because there's really... Upbeat, not much. The Z&P Podcast Network. Dad of the year over here yesterday, brought my daughters in to meet Melissa O'Neill, who plays Lucy Chen on the rookie.

Yeah, and they love that. Do they have the best time? They had a great. time. She was, because I love the rookie as well. It's a great TV show. One of the biggest watched stream TV shows in New Zealand. Yeah. It's incredible. Yeah. And she was so lovely. Indy, my oldest daughter said, wasn't it amazing how she just, every time you asked the question, she had a great answer. I was like, yes. That's what makes a fantastic person to interview. She's at Armageddon Expo this weekend. Yes. And I think all the photos

with her have sold out. Yes. The photos. Because you pay, you paid a photo with her and all these people. I'm just taking for free if anyone sees me out in the street. Yeah, that's free. Jesus, sorry, that really got me. You're right? You're dear, even thinking of charging.

Mine are free for now. For now. For now. Yeah, free for now. Well, you wait until your movie gets sold. Yeah, you get free. Still free. People who write movies don't tend to get paid.

Are you the writer of this film? Wow. Wow. So in the film, she was a word. all along? You wrote that genius? Hijack my film glory. I can't wait till I was at Cannes Film Festival. And then turns out that she's a worm.

Amelia Clark was a worm all along. Spoiler alert. But all of that bonding with my daughters was undone yesterday afternoon. Really? Get home from school, because I drove them off at school late. They were like, oh, Dad, we'll probably take the day off school. I was like, why hell you will? Off to school you go.

Bye. They dropped from school. I'm like, empty your lunchbox. She empties your lunchbox. You haven't touched the squiggle biscuits I purchased. Now I was doing the weekly shop. I was doing the weekly shop and squiggles. I still call them squiggle tops because I'm OG.

Old. No, OG. We're trying to make old call. Yeah, we say OG instead of old now. No, no, you're old. It changed in the 90s and I still call them scuggled tops because that's what they were called when I would beg for them at the supermarket. I'm sorry, you gave your kids have squiggles in their lunchbox.

That is bougie. Yeah, that's my number one biscuit. I would have a super wine. My kids have the rich kids lunchbox from when. I was a kid. If I'd know when my kids at school would have been like,

show us your lunchbox. That's a rich kid's lunchbox. Yeah, that's posh. They're getting all the good stuff. So the squiggle tops, the squiggles. Not touched. Yeah.

And I will say the original squiggles. Oh, I know. That's the best. The hokey, no, I'm hokey pokey. The green and pink squiggles. Hokey pokey squiggles all the, all. Yeah, hokey pokey pokey rules.

And the pineapple lump squiggles ruled as well. Yes. And you know how you eat them. You know how you eat them. You put them in the freezer. half an hour before you want to eat them. Yeah, dude. And they snap.

They snap. The candy's like real hard. And she hadn't touched them. She doesn't like them. You've hardly touched your squiggle tops because I was, again, OG. And she said, I think they're off. And I said,

I said, I'm sorry, what? What? And I bit one. I said, that's not off. She's like, I don't like them then. And I don't like that. And I was like.

She doesn't like them so much. She thought they were, had they gone old? Yeah, she thought they'd gone old. I was like, no, they haven't gone old. That's, that's you. And I, so I packed her back. And I sent her on her way. So you've dropped her at an orphanage.

I've dropped her at an orphanage. Yeah, okay. She's too old. No one will buy her. I know. No one's going to, she's too sitting her ways. It's like, you know, the dogs at the pound, the older dogs. Yeah.

For a longer time. I just could, I've never met anyone. Same. Well, even your kids were here yesterday and we were like, do you go across to the cafe and get some treats and some hot chocolates? Yeah. I was like, do you want to take my car to cross? Go get a hot chocolate because they were just sitting here. Yeah.

And they're like, no, thanks. They don't eat lollies and sweet starts. They haven't even put a dent and. their esterex. What is wrong with them? Weird, man. Weird, eh? I've got weird kids.

Do they drink a lot of fizzy drinks? No. That's weird. Then there's always fizzy drinks in the fridge they'll always ask and they don't really ask that often. That's odd. They're like water and they eat carrot sticks and stuff. I don't know, man.

I wish I could be like that. I think they're broken. I wish I could be like that. Yeah. Yes, same. Oh my God, I do not suffer from the same curse. Have one of their ester eggs and then I'll go, well, that'll do for the week.

What that over there? No. That's wild. Wild behavior. behavior and now I learn they don't like squibble tops squiggles what he's squiggles squiggles squiggles someone said I thought they're called squiggle pops

no that's toffee pops a toffy pops squiggle top combo would slap I don't know if it would I mention the toffee underneath the biscuits so you bite into it and it pushes the candy into the coffee then into the biscuit then it crunches in your teeth put that in the freezer

yeah I might consider that toffee pops in the freezer would slap pretty hard the Z&P Podcast Network Play ZM's Flash forne and Haley. The most asked question this week, especially yesterday when you were away, and even today when you said you were about to play this,

people want to know what's happened with the dress you purchased in Melbourne at David Jones, then you went back to return it and ended up buying a different shirt. We were sitting close to $1,000 worth of purchase, and you then went to Sydney where you failed to return it to David Jones, and now you're in Brisbane with your very last chance

to return, the clothes you have absolutely no interest in to David Jones in Brisbane. That's a great, that's a great little wrap up there of the journey so far. But you were pressured in by this woman. Yeah, so if you missed the whole, the start was that I'm just looking for, I've got a number of events coming up, gala, my show, we've got awards, you know, like all sorts of things. And so I've been looking for a dress, an occasion dress, and I was gas-lamped by this woman into thinking this dress looks good on me, and it just didn't. and it's not something I would ever wear in my life.

So then I had it, and it was 800 bucks. And then I had, and then I, yes, I went back to maybe just see if it looked better with a shirt underneath. And I bought that shirt. Anyway, I'm proud to announce that, yes, I arrived in Brisbane yesterday. I checked into my hotel room. I opened my suitcase where I found intact, still in its tissue paper, the dress. And thank God the receipt, which for a second I thought I had left in Sydney. I hadn't.

Okay. And I popped it in my little tote bag And I caught an ubure into town Where I entered David Jones A smaller David Jones So I felt nervous That they weren't going to accept it Yeah

I went up to the counter Expecting to sell my story On how I ended up with this dress in this shirt Gaslamped That I don't want to do it And tell them that I was gas-lamped By another employee Of the company

Who was the lady working at the counter? Lara Lara and Lara, gas-lamped me, the glialed me, really. Yeah. And I said to the woman, hello, I need to exchange these items. And she said, okay, I'll just pop you over here.

Why are you exchanging them? I said, just a change of mind. Here I am, big, big and brave. Yeah. As a people pleaser. I said, just a change of mind. It's for an event and I've found something else I want to wear. She said, okay.

She looked at it. She looked at the brand. She goes, oh. Don't all me. And I just saw it. oh my god a thousand dollars and I oh my god it's just I just have to keep this now she goes oh hang on a second she walks away and she leaves me at the counter she goes and talks to someone she brings another person over the from the marja stand and they have one there in brisbon

oh they do have a sick because I told you they might not have a stand the maja stand which is the brand of the dress and then she says to me what is the reason for exchange and I go here we go And I said, listen, I was gas-lamped in Melbourne into thinking that this looked good on me. And I just realized, and actually seeing it on a model confirmed for me, it's just not the right dress for me. And she said, I think it's gas-lighting. And so I said to her, no, it's not gas-lamping. So I fixed that. Yeah, you told her she was being crazy.

You fixed it by gas-lamping her. By gas-lighting her into thinking it's gas-lamping. Yep. And she said, no problem. Do you have the original method of payment Gave her my credit card The money's back on the card And I'm done

This is fantastic Hayley I'm so proud of you Thank you And then I saw a skirt that I liked Oh my God So I tried on the skirt And I said to her Well hang on a second

And I said And I came back to the same counter And I said I'm just gonna buy this And I said but it's significantly cheaper Than the dress I return And she said to me Now that's girl math And I said

No I didn't tell her we invented And I just said yes it is and then I left. She said the Girl Math thing? That's amazing. She said to me, that's Girl Math and I went to be like, do you know, girl math actually

original? And then I realized it was the end of the day and I've got my money back. The dress has returned. It is no longer saga over. Wait, but there's this dress... Other than the fact that I don't have anything to wear. I was going to say,

is the dresser you bought for the gala and for on stage? No, it's just for personal use. Oh my God. And it was cheap. It was on sale. It was cheap. Okay.

Did we ask how much? No, but... I've got my dress money back. And the shirt, too. Well, you've got part of your dress money back. I have the vast majority. The vast majority. I don't have to wear a dress that I don't look good in.

Which you said you couldn't afford it anyway. No. I don't ask me out or invite me anywhere until July. That is the current financial situation. Right, okay. Just said a couple of text messages in, somebody saying, please explain the difference between gas lamping and gas lighting. Someone said, when a gas lighting turn into gas lighting,

It's a real meta joke. No, you're just remembering it completely incorrectly. How you'll remember it is gaslighting is actually never... That's a Mandela effect. You're crazy. Forget about it. Just trust me, I'm telling you exactly how it's always been. It's always been gas-lamping.

And if you heard gas-lighting, then I think you're just making that up lying to yourself. And you've been gas-lilat. This is because our show form of bullying is different for each person. For Fletch, it's us almost revealing intimate parts of our... personal life on ear. For Vaughn it's insinuating that he doesn't know how to have sex because of that face that he has. And for me, it's you guys gaslighting me into thinking

that gaslighting is actually gas-lamping. Which we did get away with for a little bit. Yeah, it is. It is. It's not. It's gas-lider. No, it's gas-lamping. It's always been gas-living. You're crazy. You're remembering what wrong. And that is how gas-lighting works. Gas-lamping. Sorry, gas-lamping.

Of course. The Z-M podcast network. Play Z-N's Flash forne and Haley. started on a Gen X subreddit and it's kind of popped off since then and it's a way that people can tell if you're a millennial or a Gen X that you're old because somebody shared online that they gave their co-worker, a Gen Z, a younger co-worker, their personal email address and it was their first name, last name at whatever and the Gen Z was like, how did you get your full name? I was around. Because we were there when it all began. there would it forget.

Don't you quote the ancient text of me, boy. I was there when it was written. And that's what everyone's saying that everyone was joining in online on these threads on these posts saying, oh yeah, okay, that is a giveaway because we were there when it started. Because they have to be all like James, whatever, two to something or put a little,

like it's kind of a return to the old form. And even if you put your birth year or your full name and even some, but the dots don't matter. Do we learn that? The dots don't matter. The dots don't matter. Even if you put dots or underscores or whatever, you've still got to go out, yeah. And you could be the 49th Haley Sproul at gmail.com.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, mate, I got it all. I mean, there's my personal email, but an idiot could figure it out. But isn't that far? It made me laugh so much because it's so true. That's so spot on. Just revealing your email address as a millennia or a Jenny X can show your age? Yeah, I love that they want to roast us, but they've just got the most scrappy email address. Well, because they've got the leftovers.

Yeah, you've just got the scripts, man. Yeah, yeah. But they've also got a wider range of names that we didn't have back then. Yeah, Chabata and... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Methelated Spirits and stuff. Yeah. Like, if your name is Chabata, methylated spirit, Smith, probably still available as a Gmail.

I don't know if Chabata methylated spirits at Gmail's available. Oh, right. I'll let me check. Quickly, let's get it. Quickly. Before someone nabs it. Chibata. Chiavata.

I don't think I'm... signed in. Just C.methelated Spirits at gmail.com. Oh, hold on. I'm signed in and I need to sign out.

This is too much work. Yeah, it's too much work. How to tell if a Gmail is available? Yeah, he's got to go through the sign-up process. Come on, man. We don't have time for that. Check it out.

Okay, check out of an account. Okay, recover your username. Okay, here we go. Find out of your chair about it. No, because it'll do it anyway, and it won't tell you if the email is sent or not. It will just say, if you've got that email address,

it will send you an email. Oh, really? That won't help now. No, no. Well, I'm still going to do Chirabata- Methylated Spiritsmith at gmail.com. It's okay.

And see, because then if they do... Right. What's your first name? Dirt, Cheabata. Chia-bata? I literally see that. Last name, Dirt, Smith. No account found.

Wow, okay. Well, there you go. So if you are about to have a baby, cheer butter... Chirabata... Methylated Spirates at Gmail.com. Yeah. Still available.

Yeah. Available. Although, will we even use Gmail, like, when that kids... Who knows? Who knows? It's all advancing. It's all going to be chips in the brain.

Robots can beat us at table tennis now. And did you see those Chinese, the Chinese half marathon robots? Yes. It's insane. I thought at least be able to run up the stairs and get away from them. Nah.

Not anymore. Outrageous. The Z&M Podcast Network. Play ZM's Fleshhorn and Haley. Fact of the day, day, day, day. I do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do It's kissing week here at Factor the day and today I thought we'd finish off kisses With the origins of the term French kissing

Oh yeah Which is one we here down under called passioning Oh yeah Okay but it's called passionation because it's a passionate kiss right Yeah but it's just when two French people kiss right No. That's a tongue-y kiss. When the tongue's in and it's like,

Oh, that's a tongue-y kiss. Right. So, the term ended English after World War I when British and American soldiers returned from France and said to their loved ones, maybe they've returned to their wives. This is how the French kiss

and I imagine immediately their wives were like, how do you know? And they're like, I saw John down the street, Pasha, a French woman when we liberated a village. You did not be liberating any village. are you telling me before they learned that the fresh did this that we'd just kiss without tongue.

Apparently it sounds like a tongueless kiss. Just lip on lip. Yeah, just like koi karp. So the French never had a name for it because to them it was just kissing. It was just passionately kissing. So there was no standard French term for it all. In 2014, the Petitrebet dictionary officially added galosha. And the definition of galosha is to kiss with tongues.

It comes from galosh, which, you know, like a galosh is like a boot. Like a boot you wear out wet weather. Yes. And they're like, why is this, what's the connection? Yeah. And he's like, well, put it two together there on the old. It's a wet kiss, isn't it? So you might need your galoshes out.

Oh, yeah. But they came home, yeah. So they came home from World War I with this new way of kissing and wives and girlfriends and friends that they went on fishing trips with. Yep. That were the same gender. They were just mates. Yeah.

They said, what is this brand new technique you've got? And they said, it's French kissing. because this is how they're kissing France. And again, the wife would have been like, but he only knows that because John down the road was kissing somebody. And then John's there with his wife, and his wife's like, I beg you pardon. There's some other names around the world for culture,

for different sorts of kissing. I thought I might tell you some of those. The Italians have Fer el Bocino, which literally means make a little mouth. And it's where you make a little mouth and go, yeah. There's passion. Australians told you about passion.

Japanese have chup, which is an automatic pair for a light kiss. Choo. In the Philippines, basal basal is cheek to cheek air kissing. Oh yeah, basso. And it comes from the Spanish basso, which means the kiss. To kiss, yeah. Bessos for puppy.

Bezos for your pesos. Now, I've got to be very careful when I say this, because this is German. Smetalingis. Oh, you can't say smetal lingus. I heard zelinger. Shetamly smetalingskis. Literally. means butterfly kiss,

fluttering your eyelashes against somebody's cheek. And then we actually took it from them, the Germans, but would you believe it? The Germans invented the cutest little thing where you rub your eyelashes on somebody's cheek and say it's a butterfly kiss. Oh, I love that. And then look at everything.

So, today's fact of the day is that the French never called French kissing, French kissing. That was what the soldiers went home with from World War I. Fact of the day. Day, day, day, day. Somebody's made an online confession. And they've said, I've just learned that the test pots of paint at Bunnings and other hardware stores.

Might attend us them as well. Most paint stores do them as well. The little... Not free. She said, I thought... They were free. I was like, yeah, I was grabbing them. Are they five bucks now?

I thought they were two. I thought they were three. Nah, man. By the time I was finished my reno, they was like five bucks. So you get them on sale. This lady's like, I just thought they were free. Like I was like, oh, that's an interesting paint color. And she just put them in her bag and walk out of the store.

Although having just recently, because I'm choosing things for my reno, like, sometimes the tile places will be like, here's a free tile. And other times the places are like, bring them back and we'll charge you. Yeah. Or we'll charge you. for that sample. So it is, it's different. Yeah,

but that's how I've got all those carpet placements for my dining table. I just got all the different samples of carpets, the free size and now that my, they're not.

I wonder if you could go around. Yeah, it looks real raggedy. Yeah. Real shit, hey. I'm really gonna clean up my act. Wonder if you could go around to like 20 tile warehouses and get the same sample

tile and do your kitchen for free the kitchen floor. Well, most sample, most tile places are you got to return. Yeah, you do otherwise they charge you. Yeah. Places and stuff are the same too.

It's not going to work. She's like, She puts online, she's like, I am so sorry. I've been taking this for years. I just thought they were like sample bots. That's when someone who works at a hardware store, commenting on it, I've been like, what are you talking about?

Am I supposed to be charging people for those? I'm just like, you take that with you, sweetheart. She's like, I work in the paint department. No one ever told me, like, that? That is so funny. It's like a tester, you know? Take that with you, sweetheart. I just paint that on the wall and see what you think.

Oh, my God, that's brilliant. Well, this is a question we want to ask this morning, and right now, free. Like, were you under the impression that something was complimentary and so you were just getting into it. And because you're eating, you're doing it with confidence. People are like, oh, they must be paying. Look how happy. They're not like worried. They're not being sneaky or anything.

Yeah, yeah. Because you're just acting like that. It's like the hotel I'm staying at down in the reception. There's a jar of cookies. And I was like, oh, how nice. And then I saw just on the side that you got charged for them. I was hopefully about to take one yesterday. Okay. Well, this happens actually in home. hotels and mini bars, doesn't I?

Because there might be the free cookie. Sometimes they do the little cookie, but the chips aren't free. I remember the first time, I'd never stayed in a hotel before. Before I started working with you and radio and we got put in a hotel. And I was like, oh my God, they've given us cute little bottles of wine. No, no, no, no. No, they hadn't. I didn't know that.

I thought, I'd never stayed in a hotel before. Ward didn't have a credit card, so that was on my credit card. Thank you. And that's how we learned about minibars, Vaughan. We learn, we learn. Okay, 0800 dials at Amazon number. Give us a call now. Text through 9696.

What did you think was free? Question we're asking this morning. What did you think was free, Victoria? What did you think was free? I was going on an overseas trip and I was, you know, Googling flights and all that stuff. I thought, oh, I'll contact one of those reputable travel agents to hear about on the television.

And they tried to charge me like 200. or $250 for a quote. And I'm like, I'll just go back to Google. What? I didn't know that Travelers charge you a quote. Is it for their time? I guess I just went, and I was like, so do I like, oh, you'll get it back if you book with us. Yeah.

I reckon it's because they give you, they're like, I found these flights and you're like, okay, I'll think about it. Then you go and book them. Yeah, yes. So then they. Obviously. Yeah. Yeah, dude. That is crazy.

It's like shoe stores just start charging you to try on shoes because they know what you're doing. You're going to get the size and then buy them online cheaper. And then buy them online, exactly. Jared, thank you, Victoria. Jared, what did you think was free?

When I was younger, and they used to go grocery shopping with my mum. They give you, obviously, the free deli meat when you go past the deli, but my mum told me the bread rolls and the seal your own bread bin were also free, so I just got a snack of bread and the lunch and all at once.

Brad too much. Jared, to be honest, so back in the day they did do free buns. Big Fresh. Yeah. Big Fresh used to do a free cheese bun. Yeah. Definitely wasn't that. It was Food Town back in the day and then Pack and Bay.

Yeah, all right. But you were walking around with confidence eating it. So everyone's just like, well, that kid's probably going to pay for that. Or the kid's mom's going to pay for that when they get to the counter. Yeah, you think so. But we definitely didn't. And it wasn't until I went with someone else's mom. And she's like, what are you doing?

I have to pay for that. That I realized that I was confidently incorrect. You're like walking around behind the deli thing. and putting a scoop of coarsler in your bowl and grab a couple of slices. No, you're going to pick and mix and get some bloody lollies from. Yeah, you're allowed to do that here.

My mum said. That's so good. Thank you, Jared. Some messages in. We got some lotus chips brought out to our table when we're at a restaurant. We had an ordered.

So we're like, oh, they must be complimentary lotus chips. We ate them. And then another bowl arrived. We're like, that's pretty good. And then it turns out that the lady at the table next to us had ordered a bowl of lotus chips

that never turned up. So she ordered another one and she was being charged for Tulbo two bowls of lotus chips. Two bowls of lotus chips she never got. Oh, yeah. We just stayed real quiet. That's another trick when you fall for the sparkling water thing for the first time.

Oh, so many people. Do you guys want some water? Yeah, sure, sparkling. Oh my God, yes. You didn't say, do you want me to charge you for a bottle of water? Yeah, you didn't say, do you want me to charge you for a bottle of water? You said, do you want some, and I do. Yeah.

Somebody said, the water they offer you at restaurants in Fiji. They say, do you want water? Do you want, like, ice water? Do you want Fiji water? Someone was like, I just assumed Fiji water meant that was the tap, their version of tap. Swamp order. Yeah, that was their version of tap because we're in Fiji. All water is technically Fiji.

No, it was the bottle of that Fiji water and they charge a premium. Yeah, it's expensive. Well, keep your text coming in. 966. What you thought was free. And so many people think things are free and help themselves. Until I was 10, my mom told me that the bread rolls and the bins of the soup market were free like your caller before. 10.

And then mum was like... She just wanted to shut you up, right? Because you were hungry. Yeah. I thought my dad's love was free. It turns out that it was highly conditional. Oh, jeepers. Wow.

Yeah. My mum used to make jewelry and send it away. She'd go to the same post shop and just take a courier bag. She would then just pay for the postage when we sent the item away. She had no idea you had to pay for the bag. Yeah, it's extra. I mean, genius. Yeah, she got away with it for a while.

When Decker was around, I thought the lolly bins were free. Oh, the pick and max. The pick and mix. No. They had a great pick and mix. too. They did. They were no one for that. They've been having a pick and mix. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, they did. Wow. Just Kmart

used to have a pretty solid pick and mix too. No, lollies. Back in the day. Did they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pre-cooled Kmart. Pre-cooled Kmart. Yeah. Well, a lot of supermarkets got rid of pick and mix because people put their grubby hands in there. Yeah. Kids, they're fingering the lines. I'm really surprised they came back. After COVID, to be honest.

Yeah, a lot didn't. My nana thought the mini bar was free. Lucky I spotted her bag full of all the little bottles of booze before we left. That would have been... Very expensive. Yeah. She had everything. She had the wine.

She had the miniature spirits. She had everything. Jeez. Yeah. God, they charge a lot for that. Do you know, the last hotel I was in, put stickers on everything?

On all the chocolate bars. Also, but you can't replace it with a cheap of one. Because you'd go down to the dairy or the supermarket and replace them when you're out. And they put the sticker on. And you can't pull the sticker off because it falls apart. Which is BS, right? Desperate and pantless.

Yeah. But you replace it. So no harm, no foul. No, but you replace it with... Because there was those posh hotels that had like the slots and the wine would sit in, as soon as you pulled it out, it would activate it and go ting and send a message to it.

Like in the movies, a fridge would explode, but this just charges you $18. Yeah. We assume... Water would be free at charge when we're in Rar Tonga, as it is in New Zealand. Since we're in a budget, I told the kids we'd just have water

instead of ordering drinks, found out that the jug of tap water that we ordered $20. What? It would have been cheap for us all to get some fizzy drunk. Jeez, yeah. My friend and I were about 12. years old, we went to Cirque de Saleh, we each grabbed

a program thinking they were free. When we found out they were expensive, we were too paranoid to go back, thinking we'd get taken by security or booted out of the circus. So we sat the entire show not really enjoying Cirque de Saleh, just freaking out that we were going to get picked up and thrown out because we'd stolen the program.

Oh my God, naughty. I was living in a small town of Manitoba. That's... Isn't that... Do you remember that? The Netflix show with the... the woman that died and they arrested that guy

remember we talked to the lawyer that's oh how to make it making a murderer making a murderer the Netflix show there was that Manitoba Manitoba or something rings a bell

kind of around there Little House on the Prairie Rebirth's been filmed there in 2025 2026 according to a Google back to the story about Manitoba my wife came out of the shop and said I paid for your paper I was like what it turns out

the Winnipeg Free Press isn't free it's just free as it doesn't, you know, it's not beheld to a larger company to... Right. Yeah, I had to go to half a dozen shops and say, can you charge me for about 30 papers

and don't ask why? Because I reckon I'd probably grab a paper a day for the better part of a year. It was Manorowoc County. Oh, right. How did the Netflix show? How to Making a Murderer was. Right.

God, that was a good EA. When I first came to New Zealand, as a backpacker, there was free range eggs just outside the backpackers I was staying at. Free range eggs. Yeah. I was obviously, cooking the eggs when I was told I should have paid for them

not just taking the eggs for free but I was like I'm loving these range eggs. Yeah. What makes them range do you think? God, how do they keep a terrible business model making them free these range eggs? Me and my family were at Disneyland

and this is having breakfast they saw from a distance a bunch of kids were grabbing some very cool balloons unattended by any Disney staff. I said to my kids all go and grab some of those balloons. He came back over with a few of them And as we were leaving, we saw the price list. I've got, you're in Disneyland. Yeah, nothing's free at Disneyland, Horn.

Nothing's free. The Z&M's Podcast Network. Play ZM's Fletch for it and Haley. Holy moly guys. These stats are, I didn't even know this. Tinder CEO Spencer Raskoff. He's declared a state of emergency, basically. Oh, because the gays have got a state of emergency on Grindr.

What's wrong the gays? So it's the guy that runs it or something is like a big right winger. Oh no. And then with Trump and stuff. So they're just like, you know, like, oh, do I want to? But then. But also, like, is the guy that runs Grindr gay? That's a good question.

You have to do it. I just saw a news story that was. How is it download Grindering it? Is that what I'm downloading? No, no, no. About the, too late I've already downloaded it. Oh, no. Put you can't have a penis already.

Oh, no, I've signed up. What happens? Oh, no. selected some of my hottest photos. That was quick. That was really quick. Grindr. See? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Gay question. We'll leave Vaughn googling some gay questions there.

Yeah, yeah. You take care of that. While you delve back into Tinder, Hayley. He's an out gay married man with two children. But he's right-wing. He's surprising ties to the Republican Party. Yeah. I think so weird when gay people are right-wing. Anyway, I don't know. It just doesn't align.

Anyway. Send a right. I can get on board. Center right, absolutely. Right, right, right. Yeah. I'm just like, come on guys. Yeah. And they're hosting the correspondence dinner or there's some tie with that.

And so all the gays are it's like, well, now do we like... We leave. But also it's like the hottest app. But then how do I get action? Yeah, how do I get action in the next five minutes? Wellington, the gays and Tinder have all declared a state of emergency. Yeah, it's been a big week. Been a big week.

So Tinder's state of emergency is the fact that numbers are dropping at rapid rates, down 15 million since 2021, and 75% of the 50 million remaining members are men. Wow. Wow. You've got a real sausage party. Real too many Ds on the dance floor.

That is really surprising. Same. So they've launched all these things to try to get women back, double dates, video calls, shared interest matching, and they're saying that competition is the main culprit because you've got things like Bumble, which are women messaging first, which some women really like.

And Hinge, which is sort of a little bit more like serious. You know, like you're there to be, they say it's the app designed to be deleted because you'll find the one. Yeah. And then this is really interesting. And I was like, oh my God, yes. The gender gap creates what they're calling a doom loop.

So women will go on and be inundated with like 50 to 100, like, being like, oh my God, you know, with all these kind of grim creatures. And so we get overwhelmed. And the men, because there's like no women on there, get like three to five. So they get demoralized and both groups eventually leave. Yeah. Well, this app sucks. It's just not working.

That's really fascinating, isn't it? Really fascinating, eh? And just on top of that, yeah, everybody's just kind of disillusioned with apps as it is. Yeah, yeah. And Tinder kind of being like the beginning of the whole app craze, right? I mean, I know there were ones before, but that was like the big one. People are just going to other ones that just seem a little bit more, I don't know, have a little twist to them or something. Yeah.

Trying different means of dating. But I did not know that Tinder's numbers were 75% men. That's really shocking, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really shocking. It's all sauce fest. Big old sauce fest. I mean, great if you're a lady, right, though.

Isn't that great news for women, though? That's three to one. Yeah. Not three on one. not three on one that's Unless It is one way to get through the men You know what I mean

If there's 25 of us and 75 of them We're going to need to take on a few more Yeah Okay Well you may have your work cut out for you there Haley Yeah well they're going to be doing a lot more Female-focused stuff So watch that space

The ZM Podcast Network Play ZN's fleshed one and Haley A woman has gone viral Because She is in a marathon And she got one of those You know how some marathons give everyone a free t-shirt, a running shirt.

Yeah, when you check in for it, they give you a running shirt. I like that, and then you can use it as a gym shirt and stuff. Just let everybody know you write a marathon. She, I think it was, like, quite boxy, and it didn't really fit her body. And so she went to one of those, you know, those tailor places in the morning. She got a tailor. She got, and she got her race day, free marathon t-shirt tailored. And everyone's like, she looked all snatch.

Yeah, they're like, girl, you are extra. I get it, though. Yeah, I mean, but. Also, it's just one race, like, it doesn't matter. But also, if you, like, those shirts, if they're loose and they bounce, you'll get chafing and rub over that, over that distance. Oh, yeah, like on the nips. Yeah, if you're getting a tan so that it fits better

so it's more comfortable for the run, all for it. Yeah, go on. I love her. Shave a few seconds off. Yeah. And so people online just say, you're so extra. Like, this is that. Sweat-wicking material.

Yeah. Can that be easily adjusted? It doesn't feel like it was so well. I mean, some of them. seem like they're not some of those Yeah, I don't know They're just printed out of a machine

Some of those active wear tops I don't know how It's a 3D printed active wear top Yeah But this is what I wanted to ask this morning Is there something extra That you do like How are you extra?

I'm just going to adjust this Like is it Is it me taking my pillow on holiday? Is that extra? Maybe you take your own You take your own truffle salt To McDonald's to put on your fries Okay, no one is doing that

I mean Now that you've mentioned it I don't hate the idea of taking your own. Or take your own chicken salt. You can take my own chicken sauce. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to have it. I don't know what happened to it. I had this little mini hip flask, but it was for hot sauce.

To that thing everywhere. See, that's an extra. That's extra. Well, this is what I want to know this morning. O'Henger at Diles.M. You can text in. 9-6-96. How are you a little bit extra?

Yeah, how are you a little bit extra? Something that you do. We love people that are a little bit extra, by the way. We're not here to judge it. Oh, no, not at all. Not at all. I'm sure we've got me. I'm sure we do.

I'm sure we do. We'll give us a call. Don't know where Vaughn's gone. What's he done now? He's just gone for a little walkabout. Just left, isn't he? Just left. Does he know that we're doing a radio show?

I think he still thinks we finish at nine. He kind of pulls back a bit, you know, from nine to ten. Yeah, okay. Well... We've been here all year like this, babe. We're asking now, is there something that you do that is a little bit extra because a woman got her free marathon t-shirt, but she had it tailored.

She had it tough. It snatched at the waist. Yeah, as you would. Why not? Shantel, what do you do that's a little bit extra? Hi, long-time list in my first time call us. Oh, ding, ding the bell, where have you been? I went wheeze. I declared to you, I'll take this time now to go wheeze, I'm busting. And there was no objection to where I went. Well, I didn't hear that.

I don't think he washed his hands properly. I did, that's actually why I took longer. Right. Well, Shantel, what do you do that's about? bit extra? It's not me, it's my sister. Okay. Love this.

Anytime she goes to like a hotel, motel, book a batch, like anywhere like that, she takes her own bedding. Oh, I know. People like that. She takes her own sheets. Yeah. And do they? No, I'm sorry, you don't need to do that at a hotel.

Pillow maybe. I always do that. I'm like, you're extra girl, but. Yeah. If I'm going away for like a few weeks, I'll 100% take my pillow because I'm guaranteed a good sleep on that. Even if the bed's a bit, you know, rubbish. It's the pillow that's the main thing.

Yeah, no, she doesn't trust it. They clean it. It's good enough. Yeah, right. Interesting. That is very extra. Is it also a bit germapope? Is she a bit of a germify?

She's like a tidy OCD. She likes things clean and tidy. Right. Yeah, right. Yeah, okay. Yeah. I just couldn't be bothered traveling with all that stuff. I know.

Has she ever gone on a long, overstate? sees holiday where she's had to do this? You take an extra suitcase? No, but she does have three kids, and I'm pretty sure she takes the stuff for them too. Oh, my God. No, that's too much betting. That's crazy. The cars full of betting.

Yeah. Wild. Shantelle, thank you some messages in. The things that you do, they're a little extra. I take two pillows and a tri-pillow and a mink blanket every time I go on holiday to my parents' place. A tri-pillow. I'm not extra.

I'm just a comfort queen. Yeah. Now, listen, I know the tri-pillow has sort of visually gone. out of fashion but man I slept on one once they're elite because you kind of go like there's like that's like

there and it's behind you and in front of you the body pillow is elite and that can be a tri-pillow the try goes behind and in front oh yeah you could bend the body you could bend the body pillow yeah yeah nice I tailor all of my concert tissues I feel having a man in my bed rather than a in a pillow yeah that's really sad for you flat

yeah well at least my um body pillow doesn't snore yeah and doesn't let you down Yeah. Yeah, actually, it won't break your heart. Yeah. I tailor all my concert t-shirts, because you all know those things are boxy and designed for men only, and I never floundering for women, so I stole them up.

Yeah, it's fair. Why not? Get them on the banana. I hate a box t-shirt. They're the worst thing. I love a box t-shirt. Because I've got a bit of a tire, so it covers it. Right.

I'm extra about holidays. I've got stacks of tote bins full of decor for every holiday. What? Day-core? Yeah, when it's Easter, they get out the big plastic. top. Oh, right. And a little of the decorations for Easter, Christmas, and a hosting cupboard.

Oh. I think the hosting cupboard is like people are coming over. You get out the good cutlery and the good plates. Yeah. Now, we even celebrate International Pirates Day for the kids. That's one of the totes. It's one of the big plastic containers. That sounds like the mama off of Landman.

Yeah, she's extra. She's a lot. That's a great show, by the way. My best friend uses two towels every shower, one for the head and one for the body. She showers twice a day and only uses the towels once. has to have a new towel every time. Oh, what? That's extra.

Yeah. Extra is my husband when we decided to get on a house cook. I'll go slow and steady and sustainable. He'll have to be extra and like sneak in a 30k bike ride and jog one more kilometer than me and then go into a bushwalk by himself and have to go back up and down the last seat of stairs. I'm just like, whatever, hero. You're not going to be able to sustain that and he always blows out.

There's lots of people being a little bit extra. Play. Play ZN. Flash one and Haley. Now, I just think someone's knocking at my door in the hotel. Go on. Who is it? Yell out, who is it?

Don't open it without checking the little peephole. Go. Go check the peephole. Go check the peepole. We'll describe what's happening. No, do you know what I think you've done is, is you think someone's knocked on the next door and you think it's for you. I always do that in hotels. That's embarrassing.

Is it? Try a little look at. Go check. Go check the people. Hang on. So I'll describe what's happening. If you just, if you've just joined us, Hayley's, walking past a TV. Haley's broadcasting from

Brisbane for a comedy show is She's going through the peephole There's no, okay, we'll come back It's all right She can't hear you saying come back Have you got the lock on? No, she's gone into the hallway And that's the last we ever saw of Haley Sparrow

Okay, it was a ghost There's a ghost, okay There's a ghost, okay, because honestly, okay, so before, earlier in the show, off air, we were just talking and then the TV started making noise and a woman was talking

and then the remote's over there and the TV was never on. There's a ghost in my room. This is the second time I've seen a ghost in a hotel. I haven't seen this one yet. Somebody's just got a universal TV remote and they're having shits and gigs.

Or the place next year is just the same TV and a similar frequency for the remote. So it's a bit haywirey. But the TV didn't turn on, just a voice came out of that. You've got a gas leak. And you're imagining out. A gas leak. Meta is rolling out a tool.

They call Model Capability Initiative, MCI. And this is going to result in a 10% of their workforce being reduced in the next month. So the employees have shared like what they're doing. Yeah, it tracks your keystrokes, your mouse clicks, and it takes screenshots of your screen like indeterminately. That's... And it's being used to train AO models to navigate computers the way humans do.

You know the whole when you go to somewhere and it's like, are you a computer? And you're like, no, I'm not a computer, tick. But that's what a computer would say. It's how quickly you tick that thing, right? Right, yeah. Because the computer would be a brick tick. Are you a robot?

Yeah. Whereas we're like, are you a robot? D. That's like when you select all the bicycles in this photo. Yeah, you're just telling them what bicycles look like in blurry little photos. Yeah. Yes. That's creepy.

I'm sorry, but if... I don't like the idea of training something that's going to cost you your job. Like, what if we... That's why I put off all the interviews. I'm like, this is going to be sucked. Run to the hills. Nothing good hair weights. But what if we worked at screenshot yesterday when I was buying teetowels?

And then all of a sudden the boss... He bought some country road. Tea towels yesterday, Hayley. The green, yeah, because to go with the new... Country Road. Yeah, nice. And I will say the quality. Yeah, because that's what. Matt said

they're absorbent. So I was like, really absorbent. The boss gets a screenshot of me buying teetails when I should have been doing radio words. We're paying them too much. God, I've been using my company phone over here looking at all sorts. I've been away. Right, well, there you go.

Not on any company devices. But then, I mean, we've known that workplace has been doing this for a while. Like some workplaces, they track your keystrokes. And if you're not jiggling your mouth. house if you're working from home. Yeah. So if you know someone that's previously been a bit high for Luton working in the tech center,

they could be looking to just do some manual labor, mow some lawns, cut some hedges. Oh, yeah, after this. They probably wouldn't get out of it, and I don't think you'd get back in because AI just seems to be absolutely pummeling that industry for workers. Not a very joyous end to the show today on a Friday.

Is it talking about the doom of AI? Can we have some good news? Have you got some good news you'd like to share? Should we look up some, what's a good happy news story from the last 24 hours? Well, condoms have gone up. And price. So I know you want a good news stories. Yeah, I do.

Anzac biscuits. Also gone up in price. It's an Azac weekend. You can make your own Anzab biscuits. I think you'd be better to make your own Anzac biscuits. Can I make chocolate chip and say their Anzac biscuits? You can make chocolate chip. I don't like Anzac biscuits.

exact sort of wanted. Not an trench, I can have a squiggle. Yeah. Okay, so Claude just gave me a story about a woman in Virginia who's run 100 miles, but I'm like... What's happened to me feel bad? Yeah, it just makes you feel bad that I even feel like. Okay, so I said something closer to home. Seeds can hear rain.

I saw that story. What do you mean they can hear rain? No, just go out seeds can hear rain. Where are the ears on a seed? It's a different sort of herring. We've been milking them and oiling them all this time. Yeah, and they probably felt all of it. So if you're a vegetarian or a vegan

and you're happy eating seeds, I hope you're happy now. Here's a lovely story of generosity for our Down South listeners. Okay, this is great. This is a great way to end the show. There is a couple that have donated 400 pieces of artwork

to the Dunedin Gallery. 400 pieces from their private collection. Very generous. There's one of them like a live, laugh, love, wall painting? No, it's just a family photo blown up on a canvas. Oh, I'm busting for a wheeze after that podcast, I'll tell you. It's a podcast.

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