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Episode Date: March 23, 2026On Today's Big Pod, Cutting Hot cross buns three ways Rugs and carpets in the bathroom is coming back Top 6 - Signs your Barbie is on drugs 10 years since the flag change SLP - Do you think AI ...should replace sports refs? Tyriq Withers Quinn audio Did your pet change alliegance? Fletch makes an order Step Friends It's Hannah day Isn't it ironic that? What do you hate that everyone loves? We have permission to abandon the side part QLP - Do you regret your career? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Good morning.
Welcome to the show.
Haley doesn't have a microphone because I haven't switched it over.
Hang on.
There we go.
No.
Do I have one?
Apparently you're a Zoom channel.
Oh, that'll be because Bree's broadcasting from Australia.
We can't hear you.
She said maybe I should.
yell and then your mics will pick it up.
That's what she said, I heard it.
Just standby in here.
Everything is breaking at the moment. The speakers are all
cramly and humming.
Hey.
Thanks, Shannon. There she's back. She's back.
Thanks, Shannon.
Thanks, Shano.
Lovely. Women supporting women.
That's what that was. I was just happy to, to be honest.
To be honest, just do the break without you, just to, you know.
I'm happy to have a softer start to the morning.
Sort of slow.
intro.
Yeah.
On the top six is coming up.
Yeah, it is.
The top six signs your Barbie is on drugs.
Oh, goodness.
Not Barbie too.
Yeah, Barbies on drugs too.
Because police say Barbies have been contaminated with fentanyl.
This is overseas.
Yeah.
What's in them?
Where?
It wasn't manufactured with fentanyl.
There was some sort of cross-pollination.
Like in shipping, in transit.
Also, the photo in this news are called.
A cargo lago.
It looks like a imitation.
It doesn't look like a real Barbie, does it?
It looks like Mattel might be like, hey, hey, hey, hey, whoa, whoa.
Yeah, my dad once bought me the Jerry Halliwell Barbie.
Oh, yeah.
But definitely was from a market in Hong Kong.
And it had quite masculine features, I'll just say that.
Oh, wow, okay.
What is gender?
Sort of a Gerald Halleywell.
A Gerald of sorts.
Gotcha.
The neck in the face were different colors and yeah, it was a vibe.
Well, it's coming up in the time.
Top six. Next on the show though, people are like, oh, I'm doing it this way. I've done this thing.
I'm revolutionary. But it was how I grew up having the humble hot cross pond.
Oh. What do you mean? And like a new way to eat it. Yeah. And I was just like, this isn't a new way to eat it.
Well, it is the season, so I'm interested to hear this. Yeah, it is. Yeah. I'm on at least one a day at the moment.
Many flavors, too, many.
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Uh, butter and crust, a London-based breakfast delivery service.
has said we've been ending our hot cross buns wrong.
Wait, their whole business is just breakfast.
Breakfast delivery, yeah.
Why would you...
Because then you're done.
Limit your business.
No, because by 11 a.m., you're done.
Was that when breakfast ends for you?
Yeah, then we're moving on.
When does lunch start for you?
1130?
I'll happily eat a burger at 11.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I'd happily get nachos at 11.
Before that, it's a breakfast bun.
It's a burger, but it's called a breakfast bun.
It's got some air on it.
It's got some bacon on it.
hash brown or something like that.
Yeah, yeah, it might have some cholini cheese on it.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Okay, so butter and crusts said you should be cutting your hot cross bun into thirds rather
than half.
Yes.
If it's got the, and you can also do it vertically or horizontally.
That was going to be my question.
They're meaning vertically, though, right?
The example they've given us is horizontally.
Oh, okay.
So discs, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The top, the bottom and the mid.
And then there's a middle.
Sort of a big Mac.
Like that Big Mac's one.
Yeah, like a Big Mac great vision there.
Primarily just so that there's more room, more surface area for butter smatheridge.
Oh my, what a great idea.
And also the middle back could be buttered on both sides.
It could be if you want.
Butter, butter, butter, butter.
In the middle.
Bada-bada-bada-bub.
But this is how I grew up having hot cross buns because they're too thick to fit.
If you cut them in half, they weren't fit in the toaster.
Oh, yeah, okay.
So you cut them in thirds and then you can just pop them in the toaster.
Hard to get out, though, because they're obviously smaller than a standard.
That's where you get the knife out.
And you risk, like a real-life game of all.
operation, except your nose goes red if you contact the toaster.
I just get the tongs out.
The rubber-tip tongs.
Next Thursday, are we going to order our hot cross buns?
Tradition, yeah, we always get some delicious hot cross buns.
Although Vaughn you made someone, we tried those yesterday and they were delicious.
They were on point.
They were incredible.
Maybe Vaughn just makes some.
But the ones that we get, they have custed as the cross.
Yeah, it's good stuff.
I think we might have to order those for Thursday.
I can't believe I've never thought about cutting them like that.
Yeah, and it's taken this story on the internet to teach me.
Yeah, change your entire world.
Yeah.
The world's full of, you know, our habitual carry-ons.
Yes.
So we can change it up and make things better.
I don't like this.
Where do we stop?
Take a fresh look at everything, how you do everything.
What about toast now?
When you pooed?
Sit backwards on the toilet.
Try that.
I've done it once.
Good for the Germans.
Don't the Germans have that and they have a lean in a...
I don't think that's a thing.
Oh, maybe I'm just...
Brides do it. They're like, so your dress is in a better position.
That's right.
Straight on the ball.
It's a superior way at least.
I didn't poop.
Yeah, and so we put your elbows and get on the phone, you know.
Try that.
You've already had enough screen time for the day.
I don't think an extra few minutes in the toilet's going to matter.
You know, I bought one of those dishbrushes with the,
you put the dishwashing liquid in the handle.
Oh, yeah.
I don't even fill up the sink anymore.
I just run a hot tap.
And I wash my dishes like that.
We must go through a lot, though.
No, it's not.
No, no, it's not.
That's what I thought to or if I've got a big bowl
I'll just put that inside the sink and wash the dishes
and that saves on a little.
Fletcher, are you happy to pick these up because they're near your house
on Wednesday next week?
The hot cross buns for next week.
What are they going for for six?
I bet they've gone up in price.
Mate, I'm embarrassed to say, but we only do it once a year.
Well, there's some over the rope.
$42.
For six.
Because those ones I made at the weekend were an expensive per bun.
Yeah, for sure.
We went all out.
That's why the proper cap.
Yeah, the bougie cafe ones are expensive because the ingredients are expensive.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Because they're dense.
Like, they literally weigh 5Ks each.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whereas your supermarket ones are a bit lighter.
But then the supermarket ones, they're really up their game.
There's all kinds of chocolate and...
Yeah.
One had a gooey inside, didn't it?
Yeah.
When they're piping it full of Biscop or something?
Yeah, there's gooey.
It's all going on the whole cross fund.
You know, it's my trait, actually.
Because you've actually, for years...
I've paid, like, $40, how many dollars?
Flit for six.
$42 for six.
Oh, God.
Okay, well, I'm glad I'm not paying this year.
I'll pay because, yeah, last few years you have Fletch.
Yeah.
And we look forward to it.
One of the main ingredients in the Ohio cross bonds is petrol.
Yeah.
And it's so expensive.
That's what gives it this little bite.
Yeah, a little teat.
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My grandparents had it, for sure.
I'm sure you guys experienced this in homes you've lived in or visited.
The carpeted bathroom.
Ah, yes.
I do remember as a kid there being some carpeted bathroom somewhere.
Yeah.
And thinking, weird.
My nana and granddad had it in Dargaville and you'd get out of the shower and it's like when a bath mat's wet, but it's attached to the house.
And my memory was it was because it was the 70s, right?
And it was shag-pile carpet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But when my parents, when my grandparents ripped out their 70s shag-pile carpet, they didn't rip it out to reveal the floor.
they ripped it out to replace it with just a shorter loop carpet.
Really?
I'm really into it.
Wow.
It was like years and years they kept it.
I remember stumbling to my grandparents' bathroom as a small child in the middle of the night.
And thinking the toilet seat was up and it was down and I weed all over the carpet cover of the seat.
And it went into the carpet on the ground.
It was, as you say, you get out of the bath or get out of the shower.
And the mat was there.
go straight through the mat.
It's back.
It's back.
In 2026, it's the revival of the carpeted bathroom.
Now, like, lots of retro trends are back, you know, sunken in lounges.
Conversation puts I'm all for, by the way.
I love a sunken and lounge.
Yeah, I love that too.
Like, lots of trends.
Or mid-century is, like, huge, right?
But I don't think we need to be doing this.
But people are going, you don't have to commit fully.
Because my grandparents' one was not only carpeted to the bottom, a little lip up the wall.
And how they used to do that
and just sort of curve up the side of the bath
and the wall and stuff.
But you can sort of half do it with like a rug
in your bathroom space
that a lot of people are doing.
So you've got your hard flooring,
like your wood or your tile or whatever.
And then you'd put down a little rug.
So, but that would be far enough away
from like the toilet and the bar and the shower.
So you could pull off a rug,
but then it would just still be weird.
Yeah, I know, but people, like here's a few photos.
People are doing
rugs right by the baths or by the sink,
they're just going to get wet.
Yeah, because you walk, like, how many times do you walk?
I'll walk from the shower.
I've forgotten to put a towel up.
Yeah, same.
Walk over the floor and trip water.
You're like, I'll just clear that up once I'm dry.
Now people are recampening them.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
I can still feel it.
And it's so wet and you're like, what's happening underneath?
Yeah.
And it's not until like 30 years later when you rip it up and you go,
that's what it's happening.
Rock.
So there's some companies now that are like releasing.
rugs that were on the underneath will have like a proper grip grip and like a synthetic thing
that's not going to leak through still but still still I can feel the carpet under my wet toes
yeah like yeah have you ever walked on wet carpet or like it's been flooded or
most baths these days have that safety thing when it gets to a certain level there's a second
drain and it goes down the plug hole yeah yeah but remember when there wasn't how many times
Did you flood your bathroom as a can?
So much when you're like, I'm going to have a bath.
Or you just like, or you just get in real quick.
Slush it out.
And the water slop.
Did you guys used to do that?
When you were drained the water and then it would get to a certain level that the bottom was just full.
You just scoot like a little slip and slide.
Yeah, yeah.
Ever have a two-person bath as a real little kid and pull the plug out and stay in the bath and then like it sucks on your butt.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
And then you like move and like a big gush of water goes.
Yeah.
Sucked on my scrotum once as a small child.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
on the bath
and I was going
in that late stage
when you pop the plug out
hit the cord
now guys know what I'm talking about
there's an interior cord in there
and that thing's super sensitive
I don't know what it's ever made of
tears
you're lucky
yeah tear
and I went
like that
and I was like
Ow
oh mom
I told you not about that bath
I told you not to put your balls
near the point hole
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this is the top six
hilarious.
These have been called Barbies,
but they're being sold at discount stores.
So I don't think they are Barbies.
I think they're Barbie-adjacent.
They look like knock-offs.
Yeah.
Mattel will be launching.
Mattel will be coming for the journalistic outlet
that called them Barbies.
Well, what happened was a customer purchased this doll.
This is in America.
In America, yes, yes, yes.
So please do not panic here at home, New Zealand.
Oh, yeah, good to note.
Suspicious powder substance had fallen out
When they were ripping open the Barbie doll
Out of the back
Out of the back. They took it back in.
The powder was found. They tested it. It was fentanyl.
Huge problem with fentanyl.
That is... So do you think they were smuggling it?
Correct.
Yeah, you're jamming the Barbies full.
I didn't know barbies were hollow.
No, no, no, no. Not the Barbies.
The packaging.
Are the proper Barbies not hollow?
No, they're like rubber.
No.
Yeah, they're solid.
Oh, they're quality.
The head's hollow.
It's hollow.
Right, but the body is solid.
Rock solid.
Did you cut one open once?
Did you just know, yeah.
Yeah, cut their hair off, cut their head off, cut them open, cut their leg off.
You should talk to your therapist about that, actually.
Yeah.
Coord to the list.
Five contaminated dolls were returned when they put out at the moment.
One of the buyers said her husband opened the package with a knife and powder puffed out into their car.
They were driving in their car at the time.
And the children were in the back and everything.
Oh, no.
Oh, okay, that's not funny.
So the dolls apparently occurred before the dolls arrived at Cargo Lago.
Do you know what Cargo Lago is?
It sounds like a nightclub, but Cargo Lago is a port.
Oh, right.
The police said common tactic used by cartels and smugglers.
Kakagal Lago.
Right, to smuggle it in dolls.
Yeah, right.
Crazy.
Unassuming.
Signs, your Barbie's on drugs.
Oh, goodness.
Everybody's on drugs.
Not Barbie, too.
Are we talking about the wastewater on the show?
No, but I did see this news story yesterday, like a huge rise in cocaine use in New Zealand.
Yeah, and their wastewater.
Yeah, they test the wastewater.
Remember in COVID when they were like, everyone's got it?
Yeah, that's so cool.
I want to know what else is in the wastewater.
Well, it's all online.
Like, during COVID you could see the wastewater results and they published them.
Do they test for like UTIs, or stuff like that?
They don't actually know if they do.
But they test a whole bunch of stuff, and that's how they can find out, like, the biggest drug regions.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
But you're record numbers of cocaine.
The numbers are on the up and up.
So, you know, everybody's on drugs.
Let's see the top six ways you can tell you a Barbie is one of them.
Number six on the list, her face is melting off.
But because she's made a plastic, it's not actually just a metaphor.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, she's actually melted her face off.
Number five on the list are the top six ways to tell your babies on drugs.
She's got the fentanyl fold going on.
Oh, yeah, when they're sort of...
This is sort of like zombie over and that.
Which is amazing because that's the one part of her body
that doesn't have sort of movement in the hip.
hip in the waist.
Yeah, she does.
To twist.
Only not to twist.
Yeah.
But you know, she couldn't get the full fold.
Yeah.
But you know, she couldn't get the full fold on.
Sounds like she needs to do more Pilates.
She's stiff.
She's tightly hamms.
She's stiff.
She's stiff.
Number four on the list of the top six signs you can tell your barbies on drugs.
She's thinner than before.
Oh, she was already quite thin.
Quite legy.
Number three on the list of the top six ways to tell are your barbies on drugs.
She's intent on telling you about.
her business idea and a very loud, very fast voice.
What would Barby's business idea be?
Anything. You've seen that woman's careers.
She's done it all in.
She's not a...
Yeah. But here she'd be...
Sort of a content creator.
Number two on the list of the top six signs your Barbie's on drugs.
She's carrying a lot of cash for some reason.
All of a sudden, she's dealing on a lot of cash.
All right of the time, in a bag, across her chest.
Oh, you're cute.
She's got cash in there. What else she got in there?
Yeah, it's giving big drug dealer.
Yeah, what else she got in there?
Lip-bam, chewing gum.
A bit of cash in there.
Number one on the list of the top six signs
that your barbies on drugs.
She's just polished off a pack of timetams
and now she's after something savoury to eat
while she plays some PlayStation.
Oh, yeah.
Just to unwind after a big day.
Do you get fentanyl munchies or is that more of a
don't eat drug?
That's a, I don't know.
I assumed don't eat.
It gives don't eat more than eat.
Yes.
It's one of those ones, isn't it?
I think it's only pretty much marijuana
that makes you really want to eat, eat, eat, eat
and eat.
Yeah, oh, I feel sick.
That is today's top six.
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Well, 10 years ago, this month, 10 years ago, times as simpler, guys.
We didn't realize how good life was, did we?
Nah.
No wars?
No.
Oh, there probably were wars, actually.
There's always wars, but petrol was probably a lot cheaper than it is now.
It was a lot easier to lose weight, I'm discovering.
Yeah.
And the only problem.
We had here in New Zealand was whether or not we wanted to keep our flag or get a new one.
Long live, Red Peak.
It is, now, it is the 10-year anniversary of the flag referendum.
Wow.
John Key.
John Key, yeah.
So there was the Kyle Lockwood.
So shout out to Spin-off, who've done a kind of a deep dive into the 10 years following.
Oh, yeah.
And talking to some of the people that were involved in the referendum.
Carl Lockwood was the John Key favorite, right?
the Weepix flag.
The Weepix flag?
It looked like Weebix.
That triggered me so much.
I hated it with a passion.
I got very nervous that that one was going to go through.
Like it looked like a really bad New Zealand sports uniform or the Weepin logo.
You still see it.
Some people fly it.
I know.
You drive up and down the country and you see a flag.
It was it.
Is it the Ken Lockwood?
Yeah.
And then the Red Peak, which I loved.
Which was the late edition, right?
Because people came up being like, we don't like any of these.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
They chucked in red pink.
Yeah.
And then they chucked in red pink.
It was.
Yeah, it was a late pink.
edition. Yeah. Because people are like
well it doesn't look like a flag. You red
face looks amazing. It's a beautiful flag.
There was a Roman Mars does a podcast called 99%
Invisible. Very, very good podcast and he
is... Where do you listen to that podcast?
I listen on IHeart Radio.
On the IHart app. Where's your KPI
bell?
Nice.
And he's a vexologist as well. I consider
myself a bit of an amateur vexologist.
Really? Flag fans. And he said
you know, one of the most essential part about
a flag is that a child should be able to pick up some felts and draw the flag.
Yeah, there's some flags say that you're like, like the Welsh flag, like I can't draw that
dragon.
I can't draw a dragon.
There's a, what's a flag with the AK-47 in it?
Oh, yeah.
One of the African countries.
It cost $20 million that referendum, by the way.
I know.
Oh, maybe.
I always remember saying $26 million for nothing because we didn't change.
But I said that's Democracy Manifest.
Yeah, that is democracy manifest.
Yeah, so I mean, yeah.
20 years.
The thing I liked about Red Pig, not to go on about it,
but it was a mixture of our, like,
British heritage and our Māori heritage.
You know, it was symbolic and it was kind of a bit of both.
Whereas, yeah, the Weight Books one,
no offence to Ken, wherever you are.
Kyle.
Kyle. Kyle, yeah.
God, I'm looking at a picture of it.
It was terrible, wasn't it?
I actually just wouldn't take any advice from anyone called Kyle.
Really?
You don't trust Kyle
It's a popular name boy
It's a big call
You got your Kyle's you got your Jadens
In the middle of the alphabet
There's full of ratbags and rascals
K and J's
And also in a little bit
I have looked up the history
Of key referendums in New Zealand
In 1945
The Compulsory Military Training
Referendum was passed
Hotel hours and off course bedding
Was past
That was a referendum
So you could go get
Slashed at the pub
And gamble on some horses
once you'd done your compulsory military training.
Some other ones here.
In 1999, there was a referendum on reducing MPs to 99,
which was passed but not implemented.
What would have been reducing them?
Like, you're just having less of them.
Because when we went to MMP, all of a sudden we had way more,
and they wanted to pull it back down.
Okay.
In 2009, the citizens initiated anti-smacking referendum passed.
The majority of change in the lawsuit,
went about your kids anymore.
Yeah, now look at that.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
What's happened in 2000,
and Jaden's a raffer absolutely off the hook.
Yeah, need a smack, don't they, some of them?
Just a slight hook around the ears.
Just a light smack.
With love.
And then the New Zealand flag referendum in 2015
and the 2020 cannabis legislation and control bill.
That's right.
We screwed that one up too, didn't we?
We screwed that one up, but we did pass the End of Life Choice Act.
Yes, we did.
So it's all right.
So Nana could just be like,
I'm going to see nothing out here.
I've had enough.
The people in chronic pain, no, no.
They couldn't.
Also.
Got to go the mungle mob.
We forgot to me.
We forgot to mention...
Fogh of the Miser Kiwi flag.
Oh, incredible.
Laser Kiwi still pops up.
It does.
It's a bit of a favourite on Reddit still to this day and online.
Do you reckon we'll do it again at some point?
No, I think we're done.
We've got the British thing.
Do you reckon we'll ever change our anthem?
Because I quite like our anthem.
But I know there's people that are like...
It's a bit rubbish.
It's like...
It's like...
Bebebe, be...
It needs a bit more like...
Nah.
I don't know.
For anthems.
They're some saxophone.
Yeah.
To be honest.
I'd love to, I'd love
if it had a sax break in the middle.
Yeah.
My kids sing the one at the school.
It's quite a jazzed-up.
Anthem.
It does that in between the
Maldi and the English.
And I love a key change
between Māori and English.
Yeah, yeah.
Do, did it do.
It's great.
And that would sound great.
And that's when the sex would go on.
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The only little poll
today is do you think AI should
replace sports referees and given the
Warriors at the top of the NRL table?
Nah.
They haven't been
victorious from any dubious
referee decisions have they?
No. Because whenever the referee
makes a decision in our favour, he's
bloody dead on, mate. Perfect call.
That's right. It's when he makes calls
a game starts. That cost us the game. He's an
asshole and he should be drawn and quartered in the middle of the square.
Some referees have talked about, like some of the big rugby rest
have been like, Dave threats and stuff.
Like, whoever in their right mind is that into a game they're sent?
It's nuts.
Football referees get it because of those passionate football hooligans and stuff.
Oh, yeah.
Well, it's been announced that VAR will come to Wimbledon
because a lot of the big tennis tour,
they're joining pretty much all of the big tennis tournaments and having
Oh, the tennis umpires get it, eh?
And they do get it.
So now players, you know, players can, if they, um, question,
if they question the decision can request a review.
I'm not sure if it's like cricket, you only get a few reviews.
Um, I mean, cricket's been doing it for a while, but I mean, we're kind of going down
that, right.
I don't know if you've seen the video of the, uh, dancing Chinese robots, the AI Chinese
review, have you seen those doing backflips and stuff?
I love.
It is, and you've seen that, eh?
Like, it is, it looks like a face.
video but it's legit right?
Have you seen the ones? So they've been taught that they're not
allowed to be aggressive to humans.
But this one robot was flipping and someone got
in his way and he went and hit them. Yes, I saw
that and the people came in and were like, oh,
whoops, whoops. But do you think
like in the future we can have an AI robot
rugby referee? He's like running along the sideline.
But we wouldn't need it. But we wouldn't need them
because you could just have the cameras. You wouldn't need a mobile robot.
You just need cameras with all the... But you'd need someone to
tell the players to stop.
They're shot collars
Shot collars
Who knows?
Instead of a cricket
player
You just have like
The Stumps
There's a camera in the stumps
Nigel Owens
That was my favourite
Oh Nigel Owens
I love
We're talking cricket
I loved a bit of Billy Bowden
Oh yeah
Yep
He was a classic
He was some other
Well-known reference
A lot of them
Become characters
Don't they
Yeah they do
I'm gonna follow
Nigel Owens
Actually on Instagram
Today was our
This was our silly
Little Poll question
Do you think AI
should replace
Sports Referees
an overwhelming 93% said no.
I kind of like that.
There is a bit of a bit of human chance there.
They could say yes or no and get it wrong and that's just life.
Yeah, me too, me too.
Some feedback on it.
Taylor said, TBH, AI can F off from everywhere to be honest.
Fair.
Chris said aid them, yes, replace them, no.
Yeah.
But then it does get to the point where some games just stop constantly for reviews.
It's like...
When they do the square thing, like we just have a look at it.
I do like though with like golf and cricket and stuff
when they draw the line
where the ball goes.
How are I supposed to see that?
I really like it.
Yeah, I like that.
The line I like.
Kate says imagine yelling gets him
frigging glasses you blind full to the ref and it turns around
and says, great idea, Kate, thanks for the suggestion.
Do you want me to look up local optometrists?
Good from Kate.
Or it just laser shoots you and melts you in your seat.
Yeah.
Sit down.
That's the other option.
Sit down, disobedient human.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Obey, obey.
Katie said, if the ref didn't allow for advantage,
footy games would go on for hours with all the stopping.
Yeah.
Every time there was a problem.
Place an advantage.
Shane said, FVH is my go-to who for all hot takes on sport.
Can't wait to see this result in how it changes in New Zealand
in a global landscape for sports.
That feels a bit sarcastic.
That's a bit facetious and sarcastic.
Do we want to add more sports into the show?
No.
Five in the bin.
Five in the bin.
Who's laughing now, boo?
He's been yellow-carted.
This is what they do in sports.
Logan said, the idea of a truly unbiased and infallible referee sounds nice on paper,
but the emotion and drama that comes with human limitations and errors make for some of the most exciting parts of sport.
Yes, well put.
It's kind of what I said before, but way more eloquent.
Way more eloquent.
Shane, I'm giving Shane.
Another 10.
Yeah, good.
Just another 10 for Shane.
And if he's not careful, he's getting an additional 20.
Beck said take out the bias, simply go with the facts,
make it only grounded in rules, don't go with the large-ass language model,
but the grounded facts, you got yourself an unbiased non-Australian referee.
I shot across about the Australians then.
Cassie said referee is applying the law with common sense.
I feel like AI would never quite get that right.
And selfishly refereeing is my entire personality,
so I'd probably expire if I didn't get to do it.
Janine said, AI is pure evil.
It's a no for me.
Yeah.
And Steph said, how are we supposed to argue with an AI ref?
Did any AI robots message in the show?
No AI robots.
With their take on it.
No AI robots.
You know, they've missed their opportunity to hear that to say their peace.
They should have spoken up.
They should have absolutely spoken up.
So, for silly little poll today, we said, do you think AI should replace sport referees?
93% of you said no, no, no.
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Play ZM's Flash, Worn and Haley.
Now, you may remember, we've talked about this over the years, Quinn,
the audio erotica app that sort of takes audio book to the next level.
Yes.
And Quinn, where we met, you know, the Devil of Dublin and all sorts of great characters,
started doing these celebrity reads.
We had Andrew Scott did one, Jamie Campbell Bauer did one.
Did you ever listen to who was the first one he said?
the Irish guy
Yeah
It was a late
It was great
From Fleabag
He's like oh I'm going to do this
Yeah
It was really good
Yeah
It was really good
He's a great actor
That was really good
He's a great actor
Mani Jacinto
The cast of heated rivalry
They did one not too long ago
The two guys
He did a male male
What's that?
Andrew Scott is a homosexual
I believe
Was his audio about homosexual
No it was a heterosexual
No it was a heterosexual
Yeah
Actually
Wait so he was great
That's his staguerline pal
Hang on a second
He lied to us
I feel like a straight person
Would be cancelled
for doing that
They were like, no, no, we were all right with him.
And then he kissed me on my mouth.
Although one of the guys on hated rivalry, the TV show is straight.
Is straight.
Everyone's like, excuse me what?
Yeah.
Now that he's had a taste.
On Valentine's Day was like, happy Valentine's.
It was like, all the gays are like, excuse you.
He's a little bit gay, right?
I mean, we all are, but his is more so than the average heterosexual.
I just looked up, Andrew Scott.
I think I might be a little bit more than a little bit gay.
Yeah, right, yeah.
He's a good looking fellow.
So when Quinn doesn't.
a new, excuse me, when Quinn does a new celebrity
audio, they do all this teasing. And so they do this thing where you can see the body
and it's like a little bit of the voice. And the moment they dropped their latest one,
everyone was like, I know exactly who that is. That is Tyrek Withers.
Special Agent Jackson Brooks reporting. Is it distracting? The way I look at you.
God, yes it is. Maybe it's the way I touch you.
Oh, Tyrake.
Whatever you want.
They're yours.
Wow.
Taric Withers.
So we spoke to him a couple of weeks ago for reminders of him.
Reminders of him.
And the football one.
Him.
Yep.
And that's where we fell in love with him originally.
So he is, yeah, it's the audio is called the Bodyguard.
He plays a special agent called Brooks.
Yeah.
He's a diplomatic security service bodyguard assigned to protect U.S. diplomat,
Leah Walker, the listener.
During a high-stakes economic summit in Paris.
She doesn't speak.
No, no, no, no.
You are the other character.
That's the difference with Quinn to audiobooks.
If I'm listening to this, I'm at an economic summit,
and my life's in danger.
Oh my goodness, me.
And your bodyguard is none other than Tyrek with us.
I'm sorry, but I don't know if I have time to be horny when my life's in danger.
No, but Tyne with us is looking out for you.
The horniest time.
Because your body's, you know, stimulate.
and your hormones and your cortisol's going for it.
What a way to go.
And he's like, come with me.
So for a while, he's been sent over to Paris to protect Leah, you, the listener.
And he tries to keep things professional, you know.
He is the protector.
But their growing attraction makes that increasingly difficult.
A forbidden work romance, basically.
This is outrageous.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's so good.
Like, producer can't win.
This is the thing.
You get on the bus and you see people like,
Like how when you think, oh, she's probably listening to an economic forum podcast.
Yeah, or listen to FEO.
Yeah, or a radio podcast or something.
But no, they're not.
They're listening to this kind of smart.
Yeah, and I'll continue to.
Right.
Can we have the audio one more time?
If we could just get our ears around Tyrex's dulcet tones.
Special Agent Jackson Brooks reporting.
Is it distracting?
The way I look at you.
Maybe it's the way I touch it.
Whatever you want.
It's yours.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, we're late for the economic forum.
You can hear all six foot four inches, can you?
You can hear it and the other inches as well.
Would you have asked him this about this at our interview last week?
Yes, we just missed the drop that it was him.
Didn't we?
Yeah.
So last week.
Is this a, is this a Fletch listens?
As your social media manager for your Instagram account, Fletch listens.
It could be.
Well, because Carwin Reads, that's her official on stage.
She's got like 4,000 plus followers.
How many does at Fletch listens have?
I'm just logging on here.
This is for my audio book review book review.
Yeah, I read books by listening to them.
Audio books is reading.
Fletch listens.
Yeah.
How many have we got now?
587 followers.
Oh, okay.
Well, I...
Even that you have listened to Nunn Books.
Well, not this year I've listened to Nunn Books.
You listen to Nunn Books.
We made co-lab.
Calvin's asking to co-lab because she wants my followers.
She wants your followers.
Classic move.
I can just get another one here.
From someone with less followers.
Desper.
I think we'll get another, I think we should get another photo of listening.
And you're listening to the Tyrek with his Quinn Audio.
No, I think he needs to actually be listening to it though,
because he'll be actually shopped.
Oh, yeah, that's good.
That's a great photo.
We're just going to post a new post here.
This is what you've got to do, Carmen,
and you've got to social media account.
You've got to post a lot.
Have you not been able?
You're giving her tips.
I'm giving you tips.
You've got your content create.
I'm always content creating.
Well, when this comes out, I'll do a review on my Instagram, Fletch listens.
Now you're just listening.
then to the teaser.
Yeah, this is just the teaser.
What is Tyreek?
When does it come out?
Social media account.
Episode one is out on Quinn now, if you have a Quinn subscription.
Why don't?
Do you want to hear the tags?
Yep.
Yeah.
M for F, male for female.
Bodyguard romance.
Global Summit.
Security threat.
He falls first.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Sexual tension.
What was it?
Global Summit.
Yeah, it's a very popular tag on one.
You know, it's my favorite category of Hornhub.
Private Jet, Protective.
Energy, hotel room, security sweep, confrontation, mutual vulnerability,
interrupted, a joining room.
Help me, stepbrother.
I'm stuck between deciding which country decide with.
At the economic global summit.
Heavy breathing, moaning and maim.
Wow.
Does Quinn Audio have a...
What's Quina audio's username?
I'm going to tag them in this.
Well, you'll just do that later on you.
You're the social media manager.
Do that in your own time.
I'm a Gen Z.
I'm working three jobs here.
I'm just trying to make...
It is at Tri Quinn.
At Tri Quinn, two ends.
Listen to the teaser for Tyraigua at Tri Quinn.
Yeah, good.
This is good.
Maybe I'll get a sponsorship with Quinn.
Maybe you will.
They'll send you their pink headphones.
Oh.
The whole thing.
Wow.
You'll have to run that through me, of course.
Oh, Vorn or want to cut.
What's your cut?
Just what is. Cash.
Just under the table cash.
Just a little bit under table cash.
A little coin here and there.
Just a lunch every now and then.
Yeah, that's fair.
The Zat M Podcast Network.
Play ZDM's Fletch, Wornin, Haley.
Ever since my parents moved in with me, which has been, God, how long now?
Kind of five months,ish.
I've noticed a change, and it's gotten worse and worse and worse, and now I can't, I just feel invisible in my own home.
Okay.
My cat has really taken to my parents.
He just absolutely loves, he loves that they're around all the time, you know.
I'm sort of withholding of my love when I get busy.
never around.
He loves men in particular,
so he's really drawn to my dad,
and I thought it was cute for a while.
But now he looks at me like I'm like shit on his shoe.
Do you know what I mean?
Like I kind of come in, he's so uninterested.
He barely smiles.
He barely cattles.
He never comes into my bed anymore.
He doesn't want anything to do with me.
He prefers when my parents feed him
because they overfeed him.
When I feed him, he looks at me like stink face,
like I haven't fed him enough.
And the other day, for the second time in a week,
He brought my parents a gift in the form of a dead mauled bird.
But he gave it to them, not you.
But he gave it to them.
And that's how they show love.
Yeah.
And it was like a final declaration that he loves my parents more than me.
I wonder if my cat would love me enough to bring me a bird if he could get outside.
He could get outside.
Maybe I'll get a budgie, just see if he can.
Well, you'll have a Sylvester and Tweety situation on your hands.
No, don't get a bun.
You just trap a sparrow or something.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Did you lure in one of those gross city pigeons?
with some seed on your window.
If he killed it and left it in the corner of the lounge,
he would be like, oh, he do love me?
No. No, if he brought it into your bedroom.
Yeah, then he would love me.
Oh.
Because it is one of the worst parts of having a cat
was when they bring in a dead mouse or something,
but they're trying to provide for you because you provide for them.
It's how they show love.
It's love.
I know.
But your cat doesn't love you anymore.
He loves your parents.
He hasn't brought me a bird or a mouse or even a skink in months.
Wow.
And yet he delivers them to my parents all the time.
Cats do change.
Would dogs ever do that?
Dude, they're just like pets
If you had a dog and you were always
You know, it was always
Number one
And then your parents moved in
Would a dog just shift allegiances
And they do take
They were around a lot more than
The person who they were originally
Well this is what I wanted to ask
Did your pet change allegiances?
Like maybe you got a new boyfriend
Oh and liked your boyfriend better
Yeah, yeah yeah
Like definitely when I was having some dates
At my Farnui
Rolly would take a...
Way to brag about having a big house.
Could have just said Faday.
Yeah, I could have said Faday.
Yeah, you said Fadneui.
Big house.
I got an extension on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But definitely Rolly would take to some people more than others.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Like you'd have an opinion.
They reckon that's a good sign though, way.
Give them a snuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Your pets kind of know.
Dogs know if someone's bad deep down.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
But yeah, maybe you got a new flatmate
and suddenly your cat just like left you.
All the neighbours?
So gut it.
The neighbours.
The neighbours are buying the posh cat food.
You often hear about neighbours
just start feeding the cat
and then it just becomes theirs
that they take it.
Yeah, essentially just steal it.
I would be so gutted if I had a cat
and a flatmate came in
and then he just hung out with him all the time.
I'd be like, what he's doing?
Excuse you, that's my cat.
You're mine.
Yeah.
Or like snuggled up.
They're snuggling up with them on the couch
and you're just there like, I paid for you.
Rude?
I know, really rude.
Okay, well, this is a question we want to ask now.
0,800 dials at them, call us, text in 9-696.
Did your pet, like my cat, Rolly, change allegiances?
Right now, we want to know when your cat or your dog or your pet, change allegiances.
Yeah, Raleigh just loves my parents so much more than me.
I almost feel like...
He's moved on.
He's moved on.
And do you know, so, you know, I'm going to be trying to get my parents into the garage
into like a granny flat situation to get a bit more space in my...
to laugh. And my mum and my dad
said, well, we'll have to get a cat flap.
It's beginning of the end.
Yep. Because Rolly will just go down
there, I'll never see. He will. He will.
Dana joins us. Dana,
your pet changed allegiances.
Yes, she did.
What happened?
So I had a little old lady that lived
down the road from us and my pet
or my cat just went and moved in with her
for about six months.
I would see her in her window
just stunning herself as I was walking
my dog.
Oh my God.
Like it was just like, no, I've found a
better place now.
Yeah, look at this sunny spot I've got.
Pretty much, yeah.
Yeah, you know that old lady
had a pack of, like, cat treats,
say, yeah.
Probably, but then the little old lady
disappeared for a couple weeks
and I was like, oh, I haven't seen her for a while
so I actually called the cops
because I was worried about her.
Oh.
And I was worried about my cat too.
To be honest, I thought you called the cops
because you're worried about your cat,
but now I realize it was the little old lady.
And it's a good old lady.
lady disappeared and I was like, shit, she's
passed away in her house and the cat's
eating her.
Your cat's explicit in the murder, he tripped
her over and now he's eating her. What happened to
the little old lady though? It turned
out her family had put her into a rest home.
Wait, and where did the cat
go? Well, I don't know.
She just turned up a couple days later
because I had actually asked the
cops to look for my cat while they were in the house.
I don't think that said jurisdiction, but
yeah. Just tell me
a favour. So, okay, so the cat comes
crawling back because little old lady's gone to our home.
But, Dana, I had a similar, my parents had a similar thing and their cat was always over the fence
at an old lady's house.
And when the old lady died, the daughter of the old lady gave the cat to the SBCA.
Oh, no.
So at least your cat came back.
My parents never saw their cat again.
It wasn't even theirs.
Ruthless.
Dana, thanks Dana.
Beth, when did they pet change allegiances?
Good morning.
I grew up in Sydney with about six dogs when I was really little.
Yeah.
A lot of dogs.
Wait, suburban Sydney.
Suburban Sydney with six dogs.
What kind of dogs were they?
That's a ridiculous amount of dogs.
Unless you own a farm and they're all working dogs.
Yeah, well, two of them were working dogs.
There were two cattle dogs and there were four papions because two of the papillons ended up having baby.
Oh, wow.
Papillon or papillon.
Okay.
So a lot of dogs.
My dad gets remarried and the new wife goes, no dogs, no more dogs.
So he managed to keep one of them.
All the others had to go.
We moved like an hour and a half up north and our neighbours had three dogs.
And we've come home in the afternoons and she'd be like sat up on their front deck.
She'd been digging holes under the fence to go next door.
And I guess after a few months of that, then we ended up just giving her to next door
because she was happier with the company of the other dog.
That's about the dog's happiness.
Wow, and they loved having the dog.
Yeah, I guess they were happy to have a fourth dog.
They had quite big dogs as well, so they didn't mind having a cattle dog too.
Right.
Wait, so this woman comes into your father's life and he goes from six dogs to zero dogs.
Yeah, pretty much.
Is she still around?
She is still around, yeah.
And do they have a dog?
They do have a dog now, which she really, really loves, and it's like her baby.
Oh, for God's say, she's done a 180 on the one.
She sounds a lot of work.
Yeah.
Fair, thank you.
Some messages in.
When did your pet change allegiances?
My dog did this.
My mum would have my dog when I went to work and she'd walk her.
I'd pick her up after work.
Eventually one day my dog was, did refuse to get in the car to come home with me.
What a bitch.
Mom ended up keeping her.
Mums love that when they end up with their kids' pets when they move flats and they're like, I don't want.
And then they're like, no, you're not having it back.
That's my princess.
Yeah.
That's my prince.
gets all the treats.
I got my flatmate's cat
because it bonded with me
so she was so upset
she got a dog instead
and then that just cemented
with the cat
had made the right decision.
Yeah.
She's a dog person.
Live down the road
from a dodgy house
and my cat started
hanging out there
they'd smoke all kinds of stuff
and my cat would come home
and not great shape.
Eventually had to lock the cat
and get him a pheromone
plug in
while I got over the anxiety
of it all.
We're going to talk about
that soon, Vaughn.
Yeah, we are.
Okay.
Don't you ruin this break?
I didn't ruin it.
I was reading out of it.
Texture of somebody.
Well, Vaughn doesn't know.
This was between you and me, Fletch.
Worn, yeah, Haley and I, we're on big
pheromone.
You're on big, we're about to talk about
pheromones.
Yeah.
Cat pheromones.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
My cat's moved into the neighbours.
Occasionally will come and visit me.
Oh.
But I'll leave some food out and she sniffs it
and then walks away with her nose in the air,
obviously on the better food next door.
Oh, yeah, the new owners are giving you better food.
Yeah.
My cat sleeps with my parents, even though he likes fluffy blankets
and they don't actually sleep with a fluffy blanket.
When I lived on the Air Force base
My cat spent more time in the barracks
That at my house
Wait, you're allowed a cat at the Air Force barracks
Yeah
Interesting
Oh no they had a house on the air force
Yeah but you don't want your cat getting sucked into a bloody Hercules
Oh no you don't want
I actually do it
I could to stop any animal getting sucked into a Hercules prop
Yes absolutely yeah
Oh my cat who I'd had from a kitten
And got a vet degree with me
Worked out that my parents lived only a kilometre down
down the road and was walking there every single day.
After a year of picking her up every day in the evening,
we stopped to see what would happen.
She never came home.
Barely gives me a glance when I go over the fickle tart.
Wow, cats are a-holes.
They are a-holes.
I wear a dog for seven years.
After seven years of owning this dog,
my father-in-law moved in a year over a year ago,
and our dog was an inside dog, came with us everywhere.
Now he sleeps in the separate dwelling with my stepfather.
Every time he goes out, the dog goes with him.
he can't go to the gas station
at the supermarket without the dog.
The dog won't even let us feed him anymore.
If we've got a bowl of food,
you'll look at my dad.
Okay, so dogs do change just like cats.
Just to whoever's giving them more love.
Oh, my horse keeps...
Okay, so we were just expecting dogs and cats.
Cats and dogs.
I wasn't expecting any bird messages.
No.
Birds are a bit daft.
But my horse prefers to live with my neighbor
who has many horses,
so my horse will just jump the fence
to be with the neighbor's horses.
Oh, that's true horse love.
That's true horse.
Isn't it?
We lived in a rural place and one day a cat arrived, as they do, hung out and never left.
The new people down the road came over for a coffee one day, saw the cat but said nothing.
Next time they came over for dinner, they asked, when did that cat arrive?
It's ours.
What?
The cat had abandoned them.
Yeah.
That says something about them though, isn't it?
Yeah.
Our neighbour's cat princess abandoned them for me.
She moved in slowly.
I was on trial, I think.
And one day she just never went back to them.
The rejection was very tough for her owner.
but I now have full custody and Princess runs my stables and operates his pest control off.
It would actually, like some people might even need therapy for the rejection of a cat.
Like if Ronnie left my property and I found out he was so happy somewhere else, I would be a broken woman.
Play ZM's Fletch for him and Haley.
Well, I've moved into the neighbours' spare apartment while they're away because I'm doing renovations.
So I carried the cat down on Sunday.
You carried the cat down?
Yeah, down the hallway.
Oh, right, to the other place.
Around the corridor and just put the cat in the new home for the next couple of months.
Wait, is your apartment you're staying temporarily on the same floor?
Yes.
God, I would have never risk carrying Major Murray downstairs stuff.
He's a squirmer.
Yeah, he's a squirmer.
Major Murray Fluffington, my cat.
And so put him in his new home.
And I tell you what, he packed the shit.
He just sat under the bed for like a whole day.
Because at your apartment's the only place he's ever known.
Yes.
And he's not an outside cat.
He's not an outside cat.
Yeah.
And so he was just like, where am I and what are you doing to be?
What does that smell?
Yeah.
He didn't eat for like a day.
He didn't drink.
He didn't go to, he didn't use his litter box.
They get so miserable.
He came out every now and again and then we'd just go straight back under the bed because he was too scared.
And I said this to Haley yesterday when we were having coffee.
And I was like, what am I going to do?
Genuine friends just catching up after the show.
Like, what am I going to do?
I knew that food would win eventually.
Like he's too fat to give up food for more than a day.
Yeah.
Yeah.
they adapt, but you hate to see your lovely little one all upset and scared.
It's what gets me out of bed or out from under the bed.
I live to eat.
Yeah.
Food.
Get hungry.
Yeah.
You pack a sad and adult sad and you're like, boom, going to eat.
Oh man, I packed an adult sad yesterday.
Did you?
Yeah.
And the only thing I got me out was, there was some biscuits I wanted to eat.
So, Madre Marron Fluffington and I, we might be living parallel lives at the moment.
Well, this is where Haley's advice, I don't know if Haley's advice is going to work for you,
but show sponsored to the rescue.
yesterday. Yeah, because you said to, oh, thank you. You said to me that he was feeling out of sorts and I said,
you need to get fell away. And the Sprouse have used this since the 90s. And I'd never heard of this before.
Well, I'm also just learning of this. It's F-E-L-E-A-W-A-W-A-Y, like feline. F-E-L-L-I-W-A-Y.
Yeah. Feel-A-way. And it's, I don't know, it was my parents used to always use it when we'd move house
because, you know, a Patsy would buy a house renovated and would move and we'd never get to enjoy it finished and
completed, then they moved into another sort of derelict building.
And so we'd move our cats, Shack and Ruffy around, and you'd get the spray, and you spray it
on things, and it kind of gives them the feeling that they've been there before, and it's
familiar.
Because that's what cats are, like, smelling, and that's why they, like, sniff and rub.
Here's what it says.
It's a clinically proven, vet recommended drug-free solution that uses synthetic pheromones to
reduce stress, anxiety and unwanted behaviours, like urine marking, scratching and hide it.
So even scratching, you can...
I might be able to put this on the new couch
to stop him scratching that.
But so I, so anyway, I was like,
I've got no time to get this.
And I... And then I've used it with Raleigh
because he's also so scrambling cat,
and he loves it. And I spray his cage
when he goes anywhere.
Had a super busy day yesterday and lots of planning.
And I was like, when am I going to get the...
Because I don't have a car. And I was like, okay.
And that's when I remembered...
That I quite often on the show
will save the line
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happiness delivered faster with Animates 2-hour delivery,
Tee's and C's Apply.
He literally said across the cafe,
oh my God, Animates 2-hour delivery, Tase and C's Apply.
And I said, oh my God.
So I just jumped online and I bought this
and we came back to work and we had meetings and stuff.
And then I get a phone call and the guys outside.
It was like 40 minutes.
Yeah.
It was so quick.
And then I got home and I sprayed it.
And I think it worked.
Because like a little bit later that day,
And then this morning he was all over the bed, he was outside.
He was all good, he was eating.
He was eating.
Just text down.
We always recommend it.
Completely calms them down.
Synthetic version of pheromones that they experience when feeding from their mums.
Right.
I just fell away when I moved from New Plymouth to Napier and my cat just chilled in the cage on the back seat the whole time.
Wasn't stressed at all.
I like to think if my body is coursing at any given moment with stress, I feel the cat and my other animal should experience the same thing.
So they know where I'm at?
I'm thinking maybe we spray your t-shirt.
Could you spray me with...
Next time you're on the...
Next time you're on the couch and you're anxious.
Yeah.
Fallaways.
An adult tantee.
Matt and a couple of stale bickies.
Yeah.
I'll be back in business, baby.
The Dene's podcast network.
We have been really enjoying connecting adults with adult friends
because it's very hard in this DNA, day in age.
DNA.
Very hard in this dinosaur DNA.
I think it's hard in Kiwi's DNA.
Ewe's DNA to make new adult friends.
We don't often put ourselves out there.
Yeah, we close ourselves off.
People that move to this country say that we're very hard.
Us and Australian.
Very clicky.
Yeah, very clicky.
I've just never had a problem.
Making friends?
Making friends.
I made a new one recently and I wasn't even trying.
Who do you mean you've made?
What do you mean you've made a new friend?
You haven't told us about this?
I made my Pokemon friend.
I made my fellow sports dad Pokemon friend.
We'll talk about Pokemon.
Oh, he's not a friend friend.
That's a rough acquaintance.
I don't know.
Well, you're going to start as a rough acquaintance
and you can move into a friend, friend.
If your acquaintance, if you bur the edges off a rough acquaintance,
what are you got under these?
It's not coming in.
Guys, guys, if you polish a rough acquaintance, what do you got?
You got a friend.
You got a friend.
Yeah, what is not coming on our next holiday.
I'll say that.
No, no, no, no, no.
He is not coming to Bali.
He is not going to go crazy.
He goes to move to Bali again.
Oh, damn. Oh, reveal.
You wish.
Gotcha.
Guys, hey, I was sad yesterday.
We helped out Sam and Christ Church.
Oh, our friend in Todonger.
We actually should do a follow-up to see if they've gone on any friend dates.
Yes.
We should.
What we want to do is we're going to talk to Zoe, who, good morning, Zoe.
Welcome to the show.
Good morning.
Now, you have just moved to Auckland from Texas.
Yeah, I moved over in August of 2024.
Welcome.
Welcome.
Thank you.
Sort of abandoning a sinking ship sort of situation there, or?
No, I left before the ship started sinking, actually.
Then, 2024, I think of, the ship had a couple of holes in it.
He had a couple of holes.
But it wasn't as low as it was now.
No, yeah.
The captain's just had an iceberg.
That's true.
Do you think that Kiwis are very closed off?
How have you found it moving here?
Yeah, like, people are nice.
Like, they're very warm just to say hi.
But kind of everybody was, like, born and raised here.
They have their friend circles, and they aren't necessarily as open to outsiders.
Yeah.
Right?
like they don't want to ruin that dynamic that they already have built.
So they'll be nice to you, but they're not going to include you.
Wow, so are we.
That's what I've heard.
You live in Auckland.
Yeah.
Where there's plenty of people.
So I'm sure we can connect you.
You're 29 years old.
You love Taitay.
She's a Swifty.
Yeah.
You love ballet.
Do you like watching or doing ballet?
I've been doing, I've been like classically trained in ballet.
I started when I was two.
Wow.
Yeah.
I mean, I kind of am hip,
miss now because
you're hips at 29.0.
The same way as they do with.
Yeah, not as flexible. Do you currently
hate Timothy Shalameh for his comments about
ballet? Oh, oh, don't even get me
started on that.
Yeah, I thought so. You like gaming as well. You do a bit of
everything. You like ballet gaming, Pilates,
Taylor Swift, and you're interested in joining
the two-stepping scene. What's there?
Yeah. So,
yeah, I'm not even sure if that's even a thing here.
back in Texas
there's two-stepping.
So it's like partner dancing, like...
I was like line dancing, but with someone, eh?
Where's Georgia?
I felt like that's something Georgia would do.
She was loving the line dancing.
The two-step-back.
Yeah, she was line dancing at
symphony at the weekend.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Maybe Georgia could be your friend.
Yeah, oh yeah, we've got a thumbs up from Georgia.
She's got a thumbs up there.
Quick, quick, slow, slow.
Yes, please, help me.
So do you have a...
Oh, by the way, we've got Zoe's...
Instagram up on our
socials, on our story
to help you connect with people.
Do you have a, someone said
can you line dance because I want to learn that?
Yes, I can line dance.
Yep.
I've just Googled whereabouts to do
the Turk, Texas two-step in Auckland,
and there's the country heartbeat dance in Kumi,
which is out Hallen Eyesway.
Maybe we could all hit down for a two-step.
I do live out west, so that'd be good.
We get a two-step, we get some barbecue.
you afterwards.
Yeah, and it comes like a good at the hoo-of-pie tab.
It would be rude not to.
Zoe, we're going to be your friends.
It's just like being in Texas, isn't it?
Yeah.
Someone messaged in, Zoe should try swing dancing.
It's so much fun.
It's great partner stuff.
I've made so many friends when I moved here from Canada 10 years ago.
Oh, Canada.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Northern Texas, they call it.
No, they didn't.
I just don't try it.
Yeah, cold Texas.
Cold Texas.
Soie, do you have a, um,
a partner?
Yeah, so I moved over here for my partner.
We met online playing
video games actually.
Oh my God, cute.
Wait, what's your video game?
We, so we met through
Twitch, through a community on Twitch,
and we started playing Stardue Valley together.
Okay, cute. So, yeah,
something nice and cozy. We became
friends, and then it developed from there,
and we were a long distance for a year and a half.
Now we've been together three years.
Oh, wow. That's so cute.
That's really cute.
Yeah, he's actually listening right now.
Oh, hi, dude.
What's his name?
His name's Jared.
Hi, Jared.
Jared.
Okay.
Someone message on, I'd love to be friends of Zoe.
I've grown up doing ballet and have wanted to meet other people that love ballet as well.
Wanted to meet new people.
Well, to that texter, head to our socials.
So his handles there.
A lot of people saying you need to get it.
There's a school in Auckland called Street Swing, which is where people can learn to do the West Coast Swing.
It's very close to the country, two steps.
So much fun.
Okay.
Oh, I just found out that Jared's nephew is listening as well.
Oh, how are we doing shoutouts?
Are we your shout-out?
I guess they listen every morning and she didn't, his mom didn't tell him that I was going to be on the radio.
Oh, right, okay.
Well, that's a nice surprise.
What's his name?
His name is Jet.
Jet, like a fighter jet.
Yeah, that's a cool name.
That's a cool name.
That's a strong.
Contender if I had signs, it was Jet.
Yeah, that's so cool.
Oh, my God, yeah.
We've had so many messages on our text machine, Zoe.
I think you've got to, well, lots of people message you on your Instagram thing,
but you've got to get into this West Coast Swing.
Yeah, I've heard of West Coast Swing.
I haven't tried it before, though.
Okay, well, lots of leads, and now hopefully you'll get some messages,
and I think we'll have to follow up with you in a month or so, Zoe,
and see how you're getting on.
Yeah.
Get yourself out there, gal.
You sound like a lot of fun.
Thanks.
You have this one, too.
I love listening to you guys.
We listen every morning.
on the drive to work.
I love it.
Thank you.
Wow.
Put that down as a KPI there.
A key performance indicator for our end of year review.
Zoe, thank you so much.
Every time we ring that bell, if that's a dollar pay rise, we're in the money.
Just press it real quick.
Yeah, that's good stuff.
Is that how fast, sorry.
Is that how fast you can ding it?
No.
That was just nice.
Dig it faster.
Okay.
So here's, he is bad at sex.
The Zatam Podcast Network.
Play ZM's FlashForn and Haley.
20 years ago today,
Hannah Montana debuted on Disney
and now today to mark this on Disney Plus
for special drops.
We have so many shared memories.
We actually grew up together.
I hear heels and they're not mine.
What Disney boy did you have the biggest crush on at the time?
Get the tea kettle.
This is where it's going to get a marshmallow.
Every set.
I've loved being Hannah, I love being
Miley Cyrus, you really taught me how to be who I am.
Love you so much.
Love you.
We love you here to Montana.
So it's a one hour special
where Miley revisits the old Malibu home,
like the set.
I don't know if they must have rebuilt it, right?
For the special.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Just fold it up and put it in the back of the Disney lot.
Like a Barbie folding fun house.
Yeah.
folded up into a suitcase.
Yeah.
She performs in front of a small crowd,
a number of songs,
including The Climb, Best of Both Worlds,
you know, the big OG Miley hits.
And she has guests on.
Oh, and what's her name?
From Call her Daddy.
Alex.
Where is it?
Quar, Quote.
Alex.
Alex.
Great words.
Hi.
Alex Cooper.
That's it.
I couldn't remember.
I haven't listened to an episode for all.
while. She kind of like is hosting and doing
the interview segment of it.
I believe we have
special guest star
Selena Gomez.
Another Disney child.
For Wizards of Waverly Place.
Yeah, that was like a surprise.
And then
Billy Ray Cyrus is on the show.
Because he played the dad.
Yeah, yeah. But they've had a falling out.
Well, maybe they've patched it up.
Maybe this is what's your Disney Plus
hook line.
and sink it.
Yeah.
So, apparently, on the show, Tish is also there, by the way,
mum's also there.
On the show, Billy Rosaris is there, and they reunite,
and they go back into the house and talk about the good old times.
I don't know if they're going to address the drummer,
because they've been out of touch for years, right?
Ever since he's sort of that weird young child.
That's right.
And married her, and then, yeah, it was all kind of weird.
All the other Hannah Montana cast members are there.
Jonas Brothers are there.
Dolly Poton is going to.
to be there.
Because initially people were worried
when this was announced
that it was going to be a bit
average.
Like do you remember the friends
reunion?
Everyone was like,
oh, that was lame.
Because everyone wanted an episode.
Yes.
Yeah.
And then when Hannah Montana
announced this,
when Mali announced this,
I don't know,
I can't tell the difference
between them.
She's got the best of both worlds.
Everyone was like,
is it going to be an episode
or a special like this?
So it is.
It's a special interviews,
performances,
chat, secrets revealed
and it's out tonight in New Zealand
8 p.m.
Disney Plus.
The Fletchborn and Haley, Big Pod
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day, day.
It's a flavor combination week this week.
Gemma said I'd like to know more.
and stay tuned for Jim is one that she put forward
for a fact of the day we're going to be doing later in the week
it's about the queen.
Quine.
The quine.
Well today, though, we want to talk about the flavour combination
of peanut butter and jelly.
Yum!
What did I see?
I saw a peanut butter and jelly whiskey
at the liquor store.
Oh.
Because I like peanut butter whiskey.
Whiskey, yeah.
What do you do with jelly in the whiskey?
I don't know.
Strawberry yee, sweetie.
I don't know if I'm after that from a little.
Let me tell you about peanut butter and jellie the history, the full story.
Peanut butter was a health food, a very expensive health food in the 1800s.
And John Harvey Kellogg, yes him, Kellogg's man, he had a pated inversion in 1895.
It was a health food for people, a protein supplement for people who couldn't chew meat because of their rotten teeth.
Oh.
So they'd eat the peanut butter to get protein that they'd be missing because they couldn't chew on meat at the time.
Yeah, right.
If you were on the poorer end of things,
meat would have been pretty bloody chewy.
So in the 1920s and 30s,
there was the mass production of peanut butter,
and it bought the price down dramatically.
And it started a pairing more things.
So then when World War II breaks out,
peanut butter is in the military rations.
Oh, yeah.
Peanut butter is in there for a few reasons.
One, it lasts for ages.
There's no worry about it going off.
Yeah, like other things that could have been put in there,
the protein stuff like meat.
well, just going to even use the protein,
has a perishable date.
Unless it's one of those meats that done,
and I don't trust them.
Yeah, yeah, so I don't trust them greatly.
So also, they needed something that was calorie dense.
Yes.
So that's where the grape-flavored jelly comes in.
Now, the reason it's grape-flavored is they had an abundance of the sorts of grapes
that are native to North America.
Rape jelly.
Was that why in the cartoons it's always purple?
Yes.
The jelly is grape jelly.
because it's made of a grape that is native to North America.
Okay.
Concord grapes.
Yeah.
But it's a jelly because a jam includes everything.
If you're making jam out of a fruit, like strawberries, it's seeds, it's the pulp, it's everything.
But the skin of these grapes is very, very hard.
So they'd remove it.
Yeah, they'd remove that and just make a jelly.
So it's peanut butter and jelly, not peanut butter and jam.
Right.
Because it's a jelly consistency.
Because I'm taking out the skims of that.
We don't jelly, we jam.
We don't jelly.
If we're jelly, it's a bowl of jelly from crystals.
Yeah, yeah.
Geloton.
So then also the big role that came into it was when in World War II, they were also given bread,
they pre-sliced it for them because they didn't want people having thick chunks of bread
and using too much bread.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's why even if you're toasting it, your mum's going to buy sandwich
because you get a couple more slices out of the loathing.
It just makes economic sense.
Just toast it for less time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But now that I'm an adult, I'll chat myself with a loaf of Vogels toast.
Yeah, me too.
I go thick.
I go thick on the Vogels.
I have it at the weekend.
It's a goddamn trade.
Yeah, same.
Big delicious Vogels.
As I want to do.
So combine these three things, they were put in the military rations, the slices of bread,
the peanut butter had become cheaper, and the jelly was cheap and easy to reduce,
but high in calories because soldiers needed more calories because of all the work they were doing.
Peanut butter and jelly was born.
Yeah.
Because they'd put them all together.
That's the history.
And eat them all at once rather than having one peanut butter sandwich and one jelly sandwich.
They put them all together.
And then, of course, they went home after the war and America started industrialising food.
And the peanut butter and jelly sandwich was quick and easy to make.
It didn't need to be refrigerated.
It was non-perishable.
It was cheap.
And it was like, you know, had been tied to the war that these men had just come home from.
So they were happy to see their children eating it.
Now I want a peanut butter and jam sandwich.
I do love it.
It's a good combo.
It's a great combo.
Nutty, sweet, salty.
That's what they say, why it works well.
The fat and protein rich is.
of peanut butter is balanced by the acidity
and the sweetness of the jam. Yeah, delicious.
It plays each other off as we're learning with a lot of
our flavour combinations this week. So today's
fact of the day is peanut butter and jelly go
together because of World War II.
Fact of the
Day, day, day, day,
day.
I do-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-tid-to-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d...
Play Z-N's.
fleshed won and Haley.
So a person picks up, orders rather some cat food off Amazon,
and Amazon delivery driver drops off.
This one's order of cat food.
This is in America.
This is an American.
Again, we will reiterate, not on our shores.
No.
And runs over her cat.
Negating her need for the food that she'd ordered because the cat was run over and that was who the food was for.
Isn't it ironic?
Don't you think.
That is so rough.
It's like ordering camp food from Amazon
and the driver runs over your cat.
And the driver kills your cat.
I don't know if that fits in the lyrics of the Alanis Morissette song.
No, not quite.
Oh dear.
I mean, look, it happens.
Cats, they skitter, don't they?
Get under the wheel.
It's horrible.
What are they doing under there?
It's horrible.
Get out of there.
The cat is dead.
Yeah.
And the owner shared it online saying, well, this is ironic.
Yeah.
Oh, so they've seen the funny side, have they?
Well, I mean, they're obviously sad about it, but...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If we don't laugh, we're crying, crying, crying, crying, crying.
I feel it's all right to cry for a while about the cat.
Okay, brilliant.
So we saw it this morning, we'd open up the phone lines.
Do you have an ironic story that's like this?
Yeah.
Were you just like, you just couldn't believe the irony.
Yes.
Because there are some things in the ironic song by Alanis Morrissey that aren't ironic.
They aren't technically irony.
No.
But we're not going to be sticking.
Coincidence.
Yeah, we're not going to be sticklers.
Unfortunate coincidences would be acceptable here at FBAH.
Absolutely.
So, oh, 800 times at em, you can call now.
You can text in, 96, 96.
Like, if you found yourself with 10,000 spurns when all you need is a knife,
what are you using the knife for?
Spreading butter, back of the spoon.
Back of the spoon's fine.
I reckon you could cut a lot of things.
Yeah, might even work as well.
The text message we just received is outrageous.
Do you want to start then?
Do you want to kick it off?
Let's. About 30 years ago, my parents had our boxer dog out for a walk where the dog was hit by an SBCA car and passed away.
That is a society for the protection of animals.
I'm not laughing because the dog pride, but oh my God, that is, okay, that is the perfect example of an ironic story.
Hopefully they don't all involve animal death.
It would have been better if the boxer had been hit by a box that came out of the SBCA van as it went around a corner.
That would have been double-tier irony.
Would we have accepted a double-tier irony?
Yeah.
That would be text of the week.
Whether your story is just ironic or double-tier, irony.
Double-tier or a strange coincidence.
0-800, Diles at Amazon number 9-696.
Well, we want to know if you have an ironic story for us.
Yeah.
Because, I mean, it's not funny,
but a Amazon driver was delivering cat food
and ran over the owner's cat.
Um, somebody messes.
in, their dad's work was making
all of the guys who work there. Yeah,
because they were all like getting into their late 50s and stuff.
Attend a health seminar. Oh yeah.
The guy who was coming in to run it died of a
heart attack the week before.
Jeez.
Guys, we're all a bit worried about
you're entering, you know, an age where we don't
don't worry about our heart health. We've got a seminar
on next week. Sorry, it's cancelled. The guy had a heart
attack and died. Here's a guy who knows how to live a
healthy life. Oh my God.
Well, Gab joins us
Gab. What's your ironic story?
Yeah, well, it's along the same thing as health.
Yeah.
I was going into the hospital to visit a friend who was quite sick,
and they were in an isolation ward, so we had to get gowned and masked and everything.
Yeah.
And what I was putting the mask on, the elastic bloke and I flipped myself in the eye with the hard-cut mask,
and wound up an A&E with a cut eyeball.
Oh, how embarrassing.
So you ended up in A&E while visiting your friend in hospital.
I never even got to see my friend.
Oh.
Well, I hope your friend was all right.
Yeah, that came out, okay.
You're like, you message, sorry, can't see you.
I'm downstairs in A.
Can't see I flip my door.
Can't see bloody anything.
Gab, thank you. Matt.
What's your ironic story?
Kiyota, guys.
Longtime listener, first time call all.
Hey, welcome.
Kelda.
Okay, Matt, Gilda.
Welcome.
So, my brother-in-law, got a...
a car through his family
and he ended up giving us
his old one.
Yeah. And then the
locks didn't work and the alarm was going off.
So we had to get that fix before we could drive it.
And then a week later
the engine ceased and we had to get
it scrapped. Oh God.
So you get a free car?
Yeah, so we've got a free car.
It cost us 200 bucks to get the locks fixed.
And then we had to get it scrapped a week later
after we paid the lot bill.
I'm going to say it's a shit gift.
Do you know what I mean?
Carter won't goable because there locks
and like no takebacks.
He's like, no shit.
Yeah, brilliant.
Oh, Matt, thank you so much.
Courtney, Courtney, what was your ironic story?
Hi, Fletch.
It's Courtney from New Plymouth here.
Oh, I know, Courtney.
The only Courtney in New Plymouth.
The only Courtney in New Ply.
We don't know to move there if it goes back.
Yeah, we do.
You met Courtney?
Haley.
Did I?
Yes.
Courtney, I'll be honest.
I don't remember you.
Oh.
Ignite, Cank.
Haley's quite often boosed at these conferences, Courtney.
No, exactly.
She's got it.
Oh, Corridor.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
I was like, I didn't host anything in New Plymouth in Rotorra.
I do remember you.
Yes, okay.
Well, Courtney, what's your ironic story?
Hi, so we were being robbed for about two years.
There was a guy secretly living in our house every weekend.
What?
What?
What?
Well, like, in the ceiling or just when you were away?
He just knew we were away, and so he was just secretly
living in our house and taking little things.
Like what? Like what little things did he take?
So as you know, growing up in Nebrilmuth with not much money,
so we'd have little bags of chips and things like that.
Yeah.
And just take little bags at a time.
So it would create tension between my brothers and I,
of who ate all the chips.
And yeah, so we just noticed that things were disappearing.
He's eating these chips?
And clothes and shoes.
and then there was random shoes
and my brother's bedroom
and just random stuff going on.
I know.
And so we got a guard dog
and then, yeah, the next day
the guard door was gone.
And so it's just like...
Wait, the guard dog got stolen.
That's ironic.
This guy stole your guard dog.
Your guard dog came into their house
and he could smell this guy throughout it
and so this guy turns up, he's like,
come with me.
He must be a member of the family.
I'm off.
He stole your dog.
Garden dog, that's ironic.
I can't believe, Mum never told me that story.
Corny, did you ever get the dog back?
No.
Yeah, so a while later, this guy's dad turned up with a box of stuff saying,
as any of this yours, so this guy had been living house to house to house.
Yeah, right, including your house.
Yes, and then one day, Mom was home, and he started coming through the window while she was home.
That is such a wild yard.
This is crazy.
And ironic, and ironic.
And ironic.
And ironic.
Yeah.
Brilliant.
Got caught.
Someone stealing your own guard doggers.
That's very ironic.
It's so good.
Okay, so many, so many messages and calls are coming in.
Thank you, Courtney.
Let's quickly go to Shania.
Shania or Shania?
Shania.
Shania.
What was your ironic story?
So my mom is a health and safety manager,
and one that works who was giving a presentation of working safe on letters,
etc. The next day she
fell off a ladder and broke his foot.
That's so good. That's so good.
I love all of these stories. They're so
good. I don't know. I didn't think we were going to get many.
I knew we got some goodies. I don't know we were going to get this many.
Well, we'll come back next because we've got a bunch of texts
to get through your ironic stories.
We are asking you now
for your ironic stories.
I genuinely agree with you, Vaughn.
I thought we'd get a couple of doozies.
Yeah.
So many great stories.
And this all started because an Amazon delivery driver ran over a cat
when he was delivering cat food.
It's not funny, but it's funny.
My old office manager had just given us all another speech
on the importance of double-checking the accuracy of our work.
When an hour lady, she accidentally paid out tens of thousands of dollars
worth of wages a week early, which was not reversing.
Oh, dear.
Yep, that's brilliant.
That's brilliant.
My car got stolen from Dunedina on April Fool's Day,
and mum didn't believe me, so had my sister go have a look.
Anyway, next day I got a call from the Mataro police station
saying that I'd found my car.
I always to pick it up the weekend.
On the way down there, I got a call saying it's been stolen from the police station.
It's so good.
That's good.
I don't know that's irony, but that's funny.
It is.
It is irony, right?
Because it's been stolen from the police station after it was already stolen.
Yeah.
It's double-eyed?
Is it double-old?
I don't know.
And April, Chuck, April Fool's in there as well.
That's good bit fun.
My former husband.
That's an interesting.
my former husband, yeah.
My former husband and I had a wee beehive at our home at the time of our wedding.
It had honey for our favours and other bee-related stuff incorporated into the wedding.
The night before our wedding, he got stung right between the eyes and was so swollen because it turns out really allergic to bees.
That's funny.
We're on all of our wedding photos.
He was almost unrecognisable.
That's good stuff.
That's funny.
I'm a funeral director.
A lovely lady came into a arrange your husband's funeral.
Stop me where you know where this is he is.
Oh, shut up.
Everything concludes.
Funeral's done.
It's all lovely.
she says, I hope I don't see you again.
She died the next week, so theoretically she didn't see me, but I saw her.
Right back.
Sort of just do the same again.
Yeah, yeah.
Times two.
Can I get a two for?
Yeah.
I went in for an IVF transfer and they were doing the ultrasound to make sure it was all ready to go.
And guess what?
They found it was already pregnant.
Oh, that's so cool.
I hope you hadn't already spent the money.
God, it's expensive.
Yeah, I know.
So expensive.
I bet it is.
I was like, I should get a roll bar on the bike.
Oh yeah.
The day after I had the roll bar and I saw I rolled the bike.
Is it irony or is that?
Luck.
Serendipitous.
Yeah.
My black, my childhood black cat died on Friday the 13th.
Is that an honor?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think it is.
Yeah.
I'll let that pass.
I, um, had a problem with my nose.
It got broken and it meant I, and I couldn't really smell well.
I've had four nose surgery,
a structure and in one of those surgeries they killed my ability to smell altogether.
So the irony was that we're trying to fix the nose.
Fix the nose and in doing so irreversibly.
Damaged it. Damaged the nose.
My husband's grandfather had Alzheimer's and refused to stop driving
until he drove into the back of an age-concerned social worker.
What?
Yes, that's good. That's good stuff.
That's so good.
My horse has the horse equivalent of type 2 diabetes.
Oh yeah.
He's got the beatis.
He's got the beatis.
He needs special hay
Can't eat grass, needs special hay.
Turns out he's allergic to that hay
and how is asthma.
Maybe, yeah.
Asmatic diabetes horses.
Yeah.
I mean, you'd, hmm, you'd
Yeah.
Give it a go, wouldn't you?
Hold on, I'm just getting the end of the Lanas.
What are you going to do there?
I don't know.
It just sounds very expensive.
I'm a locksmith.
It's pretty funny when you lock your keys in the car
when you go to somebody's house.
Oh yeah, I've had that before
Yes
Last year I was playing football
And one of my teammates got hit in the face
While the game stopped
I talked about how much
I'd look good with a black eye
Five minutes later I got Albert in the face
And I had a black eye for two weeks
Ah
Oh, did you look good with the black eye
It's kind of bad boy
96-96
96
When I first started being a travel agent
And I'd never left the country
Yes
I guess
The ironic jobs
Are funny
You've got to go here in Rome
No, I don't even have a passport
Never been
heard it's old.
Someone said I saw that guy that does the weather on the TV walking and it was raining.
I was like, didn't know it was going to rain, did he?
Should have taken a number.
Should have listened to his own forecast.
Yeah.
I bought a happy meal, but in fact made me very sad.
Oh my God.
My granddad tripped over the non-slip mat in the shower.
That's great.
That's really good.
What, is it over?
Because we don't know the outcome is granted okay.
Shower 4 could really do damage to an old fella.
It's ironic though, is it?
because it's there to stop you falling.
I'm a paramedic and I dislocated my knee in the ambulance station car park.
My colleagues had to cut me out of my trousers and take me to the hospital in an ambulance.
I went to the doctors for a suspected broken leg.
They x-rayed it and said it was a bad sprain.
Way back to the car, tripped over, had to go back in.
No!
It was broken the second time.
Oh, God.
It was broken the second time.
You were silly out there.
You're silly buggers.
Oh my God, my friend is highly allergic to nuts and discovered the whole.
hard way that she's also highly allergic to epipens.
What? So what do you do?
How are you allergic to an epipen?
I don't know. Are you allergic to, because what is this?
Adrenaline.
Oh, that message in Shane,
I met Fletcher in person and he wasn't actually a bitch.
Isn't an ironic? Is that an ironic? Why is that a bitch?
I don't know. He's lovely.
Oh, I'm a phlebotomis. Flabotomis.
They're people that take your blood.
And I faint when I get a blood test.
Hashtag hypocrite.
I can give it but you can't.
You can give it but you can't.
You can't take it but you can't give it.
Yeah.
They always say, are you all right?
I'm like, yes.
Yeah.
Just not looking?
Your ears like,
the walls are going dark.
The ZM Podcast Network.
Play Zat M's Flashfallen and Haley.
I want to know what do you hate that everybody loves?
Because it is the season we had some yesterday and I've ordered ours for next week.
Hot Cross Bunce.
Well, you don't like them.
I love them. No, no, no, no, no, no, I love them.
But I was reading an article,
someone who was just an opinion piece,
where they said that they thought hot cross buns were full babies
as a children's food.
I mean, they're not my favorite.
Like, if I went to a bakery and there were hot cross buns
and everything on offer, I would not get a hot cross bun.
Yeah.
They're not my, like...
I get a carrot cake.
Yeah, you'd get something, like, actually young.
But seasonally, you see one every now and then.
I've been let down by a couple in cafes,
because they're like six, seven bucks.
Yeah.
It's a lot.
Well, there are a lot of ingredients.
Yeah.
I know, but you just look at it and you're just like,
that's going to be good and then you get in a just disappointing full short.
Well, it's an unpopular opinion, but unless you douse it in butter,
they're dry as hell in their yuck.
I'm sorry.
And a bad one is a bad one.
When you have a cheap bullet, you're like, yuck, this is bad.
But their take was good or bad.
They're grim and they're for babies.
And I was like, but everyone gets so excited this time of the year.
So that's what got me thinking.
I want to know what.
what you hate that everybody loves.
It's your time to have an unpopular opinion.
Unpopular opinion, exactly.
It could be a musician.
It could be a food.
It could be a fashion trend.
A celebrity.
Could be a celebrity.
Maybe you think Jason Amor has a dog face, you know?
I've always held the belief, and I've said this before,
that the kiwi dip, the onion dip, is disgusting.
It's outrageous.
It's so good.
It's a wild opinion.
Yeah, and I'm not a fan of tomato sauce.
It's probably one of my least favorite condiments.
I know, I know.
How do you even get by without tomato sauce?
Quite easily.
When the world made its move to Aoli, it's disrupted everything.
I always have to order a side of tomato sauce.
Always.
A little pot.
It's trash.
A little pot.
I'm already getting some messages.
Okay, let's kick us off.
I hate Mr. Bean.
Okay, I'm sorry.
Reminds me of mass school vaccinations.
Why, they put Mr. Bean on while they were vaccinating you for the measles of the mumps and the
Rubel.
I can't Google that because my laptops locked.
Oh, yeah, we're on it.
They lock after 20 seconds.
The key is to never be offline.
Yeah.
Yeah, if we've seen distracted this whole show,
all we're doing is fingering the mouse pad to try to keep our laptops away.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Apparently you're not, yeah, the screen locks.
You're not allowed.
Mr. Bean is featured in the first injection animated video
about Wild Brain Kids and has supported World Health Organization COVID-19 safety measures.
Oh, okay.
He's an animated vaccination scene, a 2026 YouTube video from World Brain History
on Animaster, Mr. Bean getting his first.
Right. Vaccination.
Okay. Okay. So that's that.
I'm sorry, but you can't hate Mr. Bean. Everyone loves Mr. Bede.
It's so funny.
It's actually hilarious.
I love being sober and still going out to parties, loll.
That's good for you. Good for you. Good for you. Good on you.
You're going to be grateful for that in the long run.
Yeah. Someone said Fleetwood Mac.
Ew.
Taylor Swift, I hate her. Blocked her on Spotify and everything.
I'm a 28-year-old female. I should love it or I cannot stand Taylor Swift.
Well, keep listening because it's Taylor Swift.
Right now we're asking.
What do you hate that everybody else seems to love?
It's the season of Hot Cross buns and that brings out the haters.
You know, we're all getting excited for our hoddy crossy bees.
And you're there being like, yuck, it's for children, spicy buns.
A lot of unpopular opinions.
Amy messaged in saying TV shows being popular as an ick of mine.
When they're a fad, I never watched them.
I've never seen friends, stranger things,
Outer Banks, Euphoria, or any of the rural house-life shows.
When they're popular, that means they're good.
It's quality.
It's quality TV.
Oh, my God.
I hate pickles.
Somebody messaged, I hate pickles.
Went to a Burning Man thing with friends,
and it turned out they were the pickle patrol,
wore green jumps and went around with a wagon of brined veggies,
writing tickets for not having a pickle.
Yum.
I wonder how old they are, because I didn't like pickles until, like, I got older.
I've always loved pills.
And now I love them, like, from the jar.
I want them on everything.
Exactly.
Shannon, what is your unpopular opinion, the thing that you hate that everyone loves?
Morning, Anna, another first time call a long time.
Oh, welcome.
Yes, hello.
Welcome, Shannon.
Welcome, welcome.
I don't know if it's the perimenopause talking, but I think I've always hated it,
actually, when random connections on LinkedIn wish me happy birthday.
I hate a name.
Like it's smoozing and it's like...
Even on Facebook, like, we went to primary school together.
bro.
Yeah.
To have a great day.
What kind of day do you think I'm having?
You don't know me.
Wow.
Some of them you look back and the only interaction we've ever had is them wishing me
happy birthday and me.
Yes.
Ignoring them.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not on LinkedIn, but it does seem like a big circle.
I am, Jay.
He's not getting a happy birthday.
You?
Shannon.
Oh, Shannon.
Oh, you're not getting one.
Shannon, when is your birthday just to make sure we don't accidentally say
happy birthday to you?
It's in January
So you've got a long time to prepare
Not to say happy birthday
Bring us up the day before
No, she won't even give us the day
Yeah, it's in January
She's not one of a happy birthday
I love that Shannon, thank you
Rosie, what is your unpopular opinion
The thing that you hate that everyone loves?
Oh, bananas
bananas are just the worst
You should see the brown bananas
That Vaughan eats every morning in his porridge
The one I
The one I said I got a bit smushed in my fruit bag
but I still put it on the poro.
Yark.
Yes.
It's bananas.
That is foul.
But what about,
because I don't like the really ripe ones,
but I love a firm,
a little bit grain there, yum.
No.
Really?
For me,
it's to the point of almost a phobia
because I can't even like touch door handles
if people have eaten bananas and then open the door.
Oh, that is a phobia, yeah.
That's a big fact.
Does it have one of those, like, scientific names,
like Pitha-Pheriaiaephabia?
Banana phobia.
Oh, yeah.
What about banana?
banana flavored things like banana fruit bursts.
Nut can't do banana lollies or anything.
Milk shanky.
Nothing.
It is called banana phobia.
It is.
It is.
They're not simple there.
Why do they do something interesting?
Like you use a scientific name or something.
Yeah, yeah.
What is the scientific name of a banana?
Oh, what about minions?
Do you like minions when they say banana?
No.
Nothing about them.
Wow, you did sound really uneasy here.
And we would never, ever, ever do this to you.
But what if we were a pranky radio station?
We called you out and we said,
Rosie, we're going to give you $5,000 to eat this banana.
I genuinely don't think I could do it.
Okay.
Have we got $5,000?
Because this sounds actually quite good.
Yeah.
Do we have $5,000?
Rosie, and if you donate it, you go ask $5 grand.
Because I'm sick of radio stations giving out money and not getting any bad.
Actually, we never get gifted money.
We're getting free fuel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We should win it.
Rosie, and the banana.
Oh, us five grand.
Thanks, Rosie.
We'll expect that check.
Thank you.
The Musa is the scientific name for the banana.
See, Musophobia.
Musophobia would be better.
That's way better.
Some more messages in.
Unpopular opinions of things that you don't like that everyone else loves.
And I get this, and my mum always says this,
I'm sick of hearing about the All Blacks outside of the sport part of the news.
Well, we'll lead with an All Black story.
It's sports.
They're the ABs, right?
That goes later.
Someone said, Steve Irwin.
How dear you?
What?
You can't say that.
He's passed away.
He's our Princess Die.
The song Wagon Wheel.
I hate it.
Yeah, that song sucks.
I'm from Ash Burden and this is a wildly controversial opinion to have when you're from Ash Burden.
Yeah.
But it got me a lot of trouble.
Somebody said, I hate the Throne of Glass book series.
And I think Book Talk would hate me for saying it.
Yeah, okay.
A throne of glass.
Now, someone has messaged in, if I may, just sidebar
about our issue with our new laptops we've received
that have about a sort of 0.4 second turnoff for security reasons.
Put a teaspoon on the mouse pad.
I was thinking no.
You were thinking this.
It moves just enough to stop your laptop locket.
Early this morning I put my coffee mug on there
and it didn't.
It didn't do it.
But maybe the teaspoon is metal and it...
And because it would guess get enough of a waiver on?
But it needs to be moving.
I might get it. Should we go on TEMU
Timu.
And get a drag pad activated.
Get a jiggler.
I'll order us three jigglers.
Three jugglers.
Oh, wait till they come down and arrest us from the IT department.
To go back, someone said that we should block the Steve Irwin hater.
I think we should block the Steve Irwin Hater.
I don't think we'll block them.
I just think they need to think about what they've said.
Someone said cooking and cream ice cream is shit.
I won't hear a word on it.
I love cooking cream.
Chocolate.
No ice cream.
Cookies and cream.
Oh, cookies and cream.
What about like baking chocolate?
It's not as nice.
It's not meant to be though, was it?
It should be.
It should be nice.
It's for baking so that it can melt and go through this thing.
It's not as not.
It's not a hot, odd opinion.
It is actually.
That baking chocolate's not as good as like a black of winters.
It's a different type of chocolate.
Back me up on the text machine.
No, we know it's not meant to be.
It's for my purpose.
It's not just for gobbing.
It's not just for hobbing.
I want to be gobbing some of it while I bake.
You can, but it's the guarantees it's better in the biscuit.
No.
It's just as good.
The baking buttons.
They didn't taste as good as chocolate buttons.
I don't like baking buttons.
They taste disgusting.
I don't want them in my baking.
I'll use actual chocolate.
Well, that's up to you.
That's up to you.
As you're right, we live in a democracy.
It is my right thing.
You have not a single text of support.
No.
Not a single text of support.
We're too early.
We've been on air for three and a half hours.
If it's too early, what have we been doing this whole time?
No, I mean, it's too early for someone to come in with backing up the cooking chocolate sucks.
No one is disagreeing with you that it sucks to eat by itself, but it's not for the births of eating by itself.
This is.
People hate Abba.
Russell Crow, M&M, cats, but not,
there's no support for you.
Cooking chocolate is terrible chocolate.
Somebody said, I do support baking chocolate as shit.
But then that's another person who's not using it for the right purpose.
It was specifically for...
It's not even a question.
It never claimed to be.
No, baking chocolate never said,
I'm the most delicious chocolate on the market.
Eat me on the go.
Yeah, it didn't come out banana caramel and be like,
I deserve my own spot on the end of the aisle.
Exactly.
Fulled up.
Yeah.
27 minutes away from 10...
So what is it?
This is on you for eating cooking chocolate.
it you effing eff-work.
Of course, I'm going to do to do it.
I'm about to put it in baking.
It's a tax.
It's a kitchen tax.
Everyone said it's so embarrassing.
You're too proud to back down from you.
For what you've said.
The guy, the single income,
no kids can't afford to go and get himself an actual block of chocolate
when he lives like 10 seconds from a supermarket.
People are getting stuck in.
I do not support you, Fitch.
This is great news for people like me with,
and I don't mean to be rude, here.
Oh, wow. Okay, rude.
Very rude.
So I mean we're bald brothers.
Yeah, well, I'm a balding sister, but I have here.
And years ago, I was told quite loudly, quite proudly, by Generation Z that if I have a side part, I am, the word at the time, Chugi.
Remember Chuguey?
We were so scared to be Chugie.
That's right.
And then we started saying Chugie, and they were like, ooh, you're still saying Chugue.
You're so chugie.
And now we've kind of really all forgotten about it because it's such a horrible word.
I know, it's ridiculous.
Just sounds yuck.
So they told us that we looked chugie if we had a side part in our hair, right?
Like this.
Do you know who loved a side part?
Bree.
Yeah, we have a picture of Bree from the afternoon show.
A cardboard cut out.
Carball cut out.
And here she is with her centre part.
Here I am here with my centre part.
We obeyed the rules.
Yeah.
Now Gen Z have said that the side part is officially allowed to return.
Oh, and will you be part taking?
I don't know. I'm nervous to make the flip, you know.
I couldn't imagine. Have I known you with a side part?
You have not known me with a side part. I jumped on the centre part a while back.
Do you know, recently filmed something. Can't say the details off which.
I've been telling everybody.
I know, you've got a big old mouth on you.
And they gave me a side part, you know, to sort of fix it up.
And how did you feel when you saw yourself?
Chuggy.
No, not chughey.
Like a sort of a return to a familiar hug.
Oh, wow, okay.
So celebrities left right and centre,
Kim Kardashian, for example, at the Vanity Fair Oscar party.
Then, yeah.
She went centre part, man.
She did slick buns, centre part for ages,
and here sent apart, she flipped it.
Everyone was like,
what's happening?
They're back, it's back.
They call it the Great Parting War of 21 to 25,
where people just came out and said,
no, you can't do it.
Glad in this world full of conflict, war,
diversity, you know,
One battles over.
It's an easier war to get into the parting war.
So if you were someone like me who was bullied, cajoled, hassled into switching to a centre part,
we are now officially allowed to make the return.
The ZN Podcast Network, Play ZN's Flash forun and Haley.
It's time for a quickie little poll.
We put a poll up on our Instagram.
Yep.
Just over the course of the show, do you regret your career as the quickly little poll?
Like you just sort of went all in, studied, maybe, got the job.
job, stayed in the job and you're like,
10 years in, not for you.
But also now with AI, it's taking a lot of entry-level jobs and it's coming in the next
couple of years is going to be huge disruption.
And a lot of people are like, well, shoot.
Like, this is all I know and all I can do.
And it's going to be, man, I'm glad those people said, shoot.
Well, I didn't want to say what I would actually say.
Yeah, I didn't want to say what they're actually.
Probably more of an F.
Probably, yeah, some expletives for sure.
So this is our question.
Do you regret it?
Yeah.
Maybe you just, it's not even AI.
coming for your job.
It's just that you're bored out of your mind.
I was a friend who worked in insurance for years and it was just like, you know,
grew up the corporate ladder and then went, oh my God, I don't care about insurance.
And now it's like, where do I start?
You know, what do I want to do?
Well, 71% of people said no, but that does mean about 29% to 30% of people said,
yes, they regret their career.
Okay.
Some feedback.
Nursing, dumb.
The pay, the hours, the pressure, etc.
It's just not worth it.
It's not what I was promised.
Do you know what?
Like, I mean, I've always said pay nurses, the teachers, the first responders, pay them more.
Oh, absolutely.
They're just an amazing job, don't they?
Absolutely.
But if you lose the passion and then you're not getting enough, I get it, man.
Page said, I got a diploma in tourism and it was meant to be at Disney World when COVID hit.
Having gone back into tourism, now working at a high school.
Okay.
Trish, extremely high stress, long hours and terrible pay.
No thanks.
I don't get any thanks at all either.
Oh, well, we think.
Are you?
Say what you do. Say what she does for a job.
Maybe she's left out the work pizza parties.
That's good for morale, isn't it?
Yeah, and they gave you a company pen and a cap at Christmas.
I'm always off to the bank saying here's your slice of the pizza party pizza.
Yeah.
And a couple of bits of paper.
Nicola said, I'm a teacher.
I love my class, but the politics of a school is horrible.
Yeah.
Katie said spent 10 years being a tailor specialising in wedding dresses,
shit money, long hours and terrible company.
Now I work in finance best decision I ever made.
Oh, wow.
Lou, I work at a uni in the UK.
As industries go, it's not bad.
Get extra time off during Christmas and Easter.
Not part of our normal holiday allowance.
Union support and all that, not bad, but also my actual job.
Fairly interesting.
Oh, yeah, okay, nice.
Alice, I had always worked in hospital, then met my now husband and convinced me to come
work in a supermarket with them after 10 years.
We now own our own store.
Never thought a business owner would be in my job total, but here we are.
Oh, my day.
You can go in store?
What a dream.
Kelsey, do you reckon they just like push it?
to block a butter off
if they need butter for home
they're just
knock a bottle,
but a bar,
oh, I'm just
walking around
with a little sack.
If I owned a supermarket
I'd shop
from my own supermarket
so much.
I would say just for the thrill.
Same.
And then I'd print a photo
of me and put it at the door
and be like,
have you seen this woman?
Trespass,
trespass,
you can't even go to work.
And then hear from a couple of teachers.
It's exhausting,
but amazing
and someone said
teaching is a lot harder
than we get credit for.
So for cooking a little poll
we said you regret your career
are 71% of you said no.
Oh, another podcast in the bag.
The plastic bag.
No, no, still banned.
They never left.
That's where you come in with the line, boy.
Boy, man, if you enjoyed that.
Okay.
Oh, and if you enjoyed it,
give us a rating and a review
and be sure to tell all of your friends.
God, I need some sleep.
Play ZDM's Fletchhorn and Haley.
