ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 25th March 2026

Episode Date: March 24, 2026

On Today's Big Pod, The most insane article Top 6 - Things you'd see at the Only Fans creators funeral Lotto is changing the rules SLP - What do you do with your pegs after your washing is dry? What ...was the meal your partner has cooked? Shannon's new food discovery Sad MAFS News Famous hot criminal What was so embarrassing, it haunts you till today? Fact of the day Hayley was in a rap music video Pensioners are partying more than Gen Z When did you end up in someone else's mess? What would you customise in our bunkers Carwen and Georgia nearly banned from IG See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 from the ZM podcast network. This is... Fleshhorn and Haley's Big Pod. Thanks to animates. Making happy happen for pets. Good morning. Fletch Fawn and Haley, it's two minutes past six.
Starting point is 00:00:12 The top six, four. Yeah, the only... The creator of Only fans has passed away in his 40s. And he... The guy the owned it. He made heaps of money out of this. Yeah, created it.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Took a cart on everything. He was with... Even if you're only making $7 a month. off your foot photos, he was taking a little cut. So, sad. I mean, just goes to show you, money can't stop the... Well, can't keep you alive, can it? No.
Starting point is 00:00:40 What got him? Cancer. Baga. Yeah. So at the time of his death, how much do you think he was worth? His net worth? $500 million. $700 million.
Starting point is 00:00:51 $4.7 billion. Because of all the bounties. Because of all the bouncer tatties. Yes, basically, yeah. I mean, good on him. Good on him, though, you know? Absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Gosh. In 2024, it was estimated he was generating approximately $1.9 million a day. Wow. And all I want is to win $23 million tonight. In Lotto. In Lotto. We should actually talk about that soon because of rules. They're changing the rules to Powerball.
Starting point is 00:01:27 There's going to be more Powerball. It's going to be hard. We'll go through it soon. Is it getting harder? Yeah. Basically. Which is weird because I still haven't won it. Well, you're out.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Are we still doing our syndicate? Yeah, 100%. Yeah, I'm sitting to log on and buy. How much are we giving each other? What's that up to? If we win. It's 20-something mill. Yeah, too.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Until it hits 30 and then it's three. Okay, so if we win tonight, are we here tomorrow? Yeah, we'll see out the week. Just because I don't want anybody to know. See out the week. How one's shaking your head. Do you think it would be obvious, though, if we don't turn it up on Monday? I reckon, oh, I'm not going to be trying, but I'll be here.
Starting point is 00:02:03 You don't try most days? Well, no, that's the secret. I've been planning this lot of win for years. Right. Years and years. The top six soon. Next on the show, though, a wild story. I think the news headline of the year, and it's only March.
Starting point is 00:02:18 You're not going to beat this. No. The Fletchhorn and Haley, Big Pod. Do you want to hear the headline of the year? I love this so much. Quadruple amputee, professional cornhole player faces murder charges. One more time, so I can break it down bit by bit. Quadruple.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Quadruple means all four. All four amputee. Okay, so we've had all four limbs amputated. No arms, no legs. No arms, no legs. Well, stumps. Stumps to above knee and above elbow. Yep.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Professional cornhole player. Okay, so cornholes, that game, you toss the little sack onto the wooden board and it's a hole. Now, he's a professionally so good. Professional. No hands, despite no hands. Faces murder charges. He has killed someone. And not just like, suspected, where's this person that you knew,
Starting point is 00:03:09 shot someone in a vehicle while two other people were in the vehicle. Now, I will say the every news organisation that was reporting this yesterday left us absolutely high and dry with some, you know, the first thing you learn, you would have learnt this at radio, school and media vaughan and journalism the who what, where, where how. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a big how. There's a big how.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Huge how. Nobody yesterday on these news sites answered the how, but it has been answered today. So TMZ have actually shared a video of this person. His name's Dayton James Weber, by the way.
Starting point is 00:03:50 On social media. He's got more names than he does bloody limbs. I just felt like a lot of names. It is more names. I feel like you're cancelled to saying that. It is very cancelable. I like to distance myself from it even though I thought it was clever and funny.
Starting point is 00:04:07 So he is in this video he's obviously like a gun proud American, you know? And it shows how he can use a gun because he does have like stumps that are long enough. Like he's not cut off at the shoulder. I feel like you shouldn't be calling them stumps. They are. They are stumps.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Yeah, okay. No, that's the, that's the, How does he lose? Nibs is so much worse than Stiles. 9-6-96. If you're an amputee, please, inform us. We're coming from a place of ignorance that we wish to address. Just arms, you just call them arms, half-arms? I follow an amputee and he calls his leg a stump.
Starting point is 00:04:43 A stump. Okay, it just feels wrong. It's definitely not nibs, dude. I feel like we're in a minefield here. I'm afraid. Is that how he lost them? No, I don't know, Vaughn. And a minefield.
Starting point is 00:04:55 So he was driving along, got an, argument with the victim whose name is Bradrick. They couldn't decide... By the way. Between Bradrick and Braddrich, so they went with Bradrick. He was shot twice. Don't worry, it was in the head. During an argument. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:13 While, okay, now here's another question. While they were riding in the shooter's car. So there's two people in the back. Wait, he's driving. He's driving. I didn't know that. I don't know. Because I know that with amputees, you can get all sorts of, you know, like, attachments and stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:33 But then I'm like, okay, so if he's got no limbs, then he's using these attachments to drive the car, how's he then holding the gun? Yeah. And arguing. The video that TMZ shed, how does he fire the gun? Using both of his stumps and, like, his chin a bit. But so it's a special gun. No, it's just a pistol.
Starting point is 00:05:53 But how does he pull the trigger? Nibs. Nibs. I don't know. I think he's got like a little nib. I don't know. How do you not see that coming when you're in the passenger seat next to him? You know, he's got to be like, get it ready.
Starting point is 00:06:10 So two witnesses in the car identified him as the shooter. He then drove off with the body still in the car after he was asking the two other people in the car to help him remove the body and they refused. Okay, yeah. So he ended up. Why was he so angry at him? He ended up at some point pushing the body out on a road and then just driving off.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Wait, so we got the body into the car without help. No, he got it out. He got it out. So they're in the car. They were already in the car. Gotcha. Details are blurry on this. Still getting it out of the car.
Starting point is 00:06:45 No mean feet. When you don't have the bottom. You can't say that. No mean feet. Oh, I didn't mean that. No feet in any. No feet in it. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I mean feet as a. F-E-A-T. Okay. Come on guys, you've got to hand me that one. Oh, boy. Fawn, Ellen, Smith. This is a sensitive time. Someone has died.
Starting point is 00:07:06 The murder aside, the murder aside, and the why he was murdered, I need to know how he was driving the car and wielding a gun enough to fire it. Because when he's holding the gun in this video of him being like, I'll shoot guns. It's using everything. Yeah. That's what I mean. How did the guy next door not see it coming? and literally put his hand out and, you know. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I got a note. And also to shoot him in the head, that's incredible accuracy. Like he's even, yeah. Yeah, but accuracy, he does cornhole. He knows his accuracy. Yeah, true. Three months old, he was given a 3% chance to live to save his life and stop a deadly infection from spreading.
Starting point is 00:07:46 The doctors amputated his... Wait, how do you know all this? Is there a profile? Yes, yes, he's an ESPN profile. What? He's been on ESPN. Witnesses told. Oh yeah, dude, he's like, you've searched his name, there's heaps.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Okay, I've seen cornhole on ESPN actually. So, yeah, to stop the deadly infection from spreading dockets amped at both his arms and legs. So he's a bit of a cornhole celebrity. Yeah, dude. Wow, this is an incredible story. I don't. What made him so angry? What did this person do?
Starting point is 00:08:14 Officers say that witnesses told them they were in the back seat, so he is confirmed to be driving. Okay. When Weber got into an argument with a front seat passenger, they then say he pulled a gun and fatally shot the passenger. How's he pulled it? I just don't know. I don't know. I'm stumped. And this is why the internet...
Starting point is 00:08:32 Vaughn. Stuck that one pastime. You didn't even need to point that out. Vaughn. Vaughn. He then pulled the car over and asked the witnesses to help him get the body out of the car. When they refused, they exited the car. He drives off.
Starting point is 00:08:48 At some point so then he is alone. So then he jumps back in. Yeah. Is there a police chase? Pushes out. No, no, not yet. Did he pull up short? Put...
Starting point is 00:08:55 Ha, ha. Pushes the body That wasn't me Four Pushes the body out on the side of the road And leaves Meanwhile the two passengers Have gone to the police
Starting point is 00:09:05 Then they track him down They're like You are never gonna believe this Yeah And the police are like Try us We say some weird shit And the officers like cuff him
Starting point is 00:09:13 Oh Hayley Haley I don't mean It's just It's just an odd story It's brilliant And you know
Starting point is 00:09:23 I love that TMZ are all over this now Because you know They're gonna be Getting every angle It sounds like we're going to forget about this. And in six months' time, Shannon's going to come to work one morning, but like, guess what I've just watched? Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:34 There was a podcast. Yeah, there was a video podcast where they really went into this. On Dayton James Weber, the 27-year-old quadruple amputee professional cornhole player who shot someone while driving a vehicle. Twice in the head. Twice in the head. Twice in the head. What a headline.
Starting point is 00:09:48 The Fletchwall and Haley, big pod. From your local community Facebook page, this is the top sex. Today's top six is the top six things to expect at the funeral of the only fans creator. This is the guy. He doesn't create content. He's passed away at the age 43. He invented the platform, only fans. Ukrainian internet entrepreneur.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Yeah, died with an estimated net worth of $4.7 billion. Did your family that are going to get that? I think I already had a wife and kids. Popularity surge during COVID pandemic. Is adult performers cashed in on customers stuck at home during lockdown? Yeah. It generated 1.4 billion in revenue in 2024 alone. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Users spending $7.2 billion on the platform. Nice. Wow. Well, we've all considered it during these early mornings. So what? Yeah, you've got to get petrol on the tank. Yeah. I just don't know if I've got anything that's going to fill a car, you know.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Yeah, I don't know. You've either got to be hot or have something real weird. Hot or weird. Yeah. bottle where. If you got a middle ground. And weird, boy. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Oh, you're going to buy a house with that. Yeah. Top six things to expect at the Only Fan creator's funeral. Number six on the list. Footpicks in the funeral program. For an additional 999.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Okay. There's two piles of funeral programs. One's just got a picture of him on the front, the hymns. It's got a sealed section. The order of, but yeah, you pay it. 999 footpicks in the back. Number five on the list of the top six things
Starting point is 00:11:24 to expect at the Only Fan owner's funeral, a peek in the coffin for 1699. Just a peek in the coffin. Little look. Just a little look. Okay. Little look. 1699.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Is he nude in there? Well, that's actually a really good call. To have an open casket, but just also put in your will that you want to be nerd. Want to be nerd? Or just in like some weird knickers. Yeah, like you and a bit of like a red frilly set. It depends how you die though because, you know, they might be, clothes might be hiding some things.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Die of old age and get married. buried in my Tasmanian devil silk boxes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, full circle. Find me a pair. It's a beautiful full circle moment. Yeah, isn't it? Number four on the list of the top six things to expect of the only fans' funeral, a pair of worn knickers for $25.
Starting point is 00:12:14 You can pick those up on the way out. Okay, yep, lovely. Anonymously, we don't know who wore them. Yeah. Could be anybody. It's just a little sort of party favour. Yeah. Number three on the list of the top six things to expect at the only fan creator's funeral.
Starting point is 00:12:27 you can request a funeral him from a topless model for 899. And they're singing Ave Maria with the backs out. They were saying Arbe Maria or how great thou are. And by thou they mean. And art. Yeah. Number two on the list of the top six things to expect at the only fan owner's funeral get spanked by the priest. Oh, 4299.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Hot priest. Oh, wow. Hot priest. Hot priest. Hot priest. Okay. And number one on the list of that. Look, he was struggling by this stage.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Top six things to expect at the owner of the only fan's funeral. have a wrestle in the grave hole in the jelly with a hot model before it goes in. You know, the holes, dug it makes sense. Deep hole. Deep hole, lots of jelly, 80 bucks. $80. I'd pay that.
Starting point is 00:13:08 But no wonder he died worth $4.7 billion. Yeah, yeah, his moneymaker. It's just all these little add-ons, you know. That's where they get you, all these little add-ons. Yeah. That is today's top sex. The ZDM Podcast Network. Well, Lotto, New Zealand, yesterday,
Starting point is 00:13:24 announced that it's changing the rules to power. Powerball, the first, the biggest rule changes in 19 years. So, Powerball's changed heaps since at first, though, there's been a little bits and pieces changed throughout the years. Little changes, but these are what they're saying are big changes. There will be larger prizes in every division and a 10 million left to Powerball's biggest jackpot price. So currently the cap is 50.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yes. You'll be able to win possibly $60 million. Now, that sounds great, yes, but it will be harder to win. There will be four new Powerball's introduced as part of the changes. So there will be 14 Powerballs instead of 10. That means the odds of winning Powerball Division 1 will go from 1 in 38.4 million to 1 in 53.7 million. We didn't need this. We didn't need this.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Again, it wouldn't guarantee it. it would be like every New Zealand are buying 10 tickets would be 53 million. Yeah, look, I mean... And then one of those tickets would win. You'd better just to put your money into a investment fund, you know? Just put $24 at each week instead of buying a lotto ticket.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Why do we need more than 50 million? That's what I wondered as well. Because that's what, when it gets to 50 million, that's what everybody's saying. Everybody says, oh, you don't need that much money. Oh, I hope it goes between a couple of people. Yes. Why does it need to be a bigger price? I don't know if we needed to do that.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I'm just sitting there look at mine to make sure. We've got them, eh? We've done this already. So I wonder what, like, because I only ever win, like, and I hardly ever buy tickets. It's only when they become now, like, it's 20-something million. I'm like, oh, I'll buy a ticket. But when I do win, it's only ever like $20 or something. The most I've ever won, I think was $80 and I was like, holy hecker.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Holy hecker. Got some people that comment on Harold's stories are dickheads, eh? Listen to some of these comments. I totally support this. I'd much prefer to win $60 million and have to share half as much with five others who will be broken five years because money management's a mystery to them.
Starting point is 00:15:30 What a self-righteous piece of shit? That person acting will know how to manage it. Yeah, yeah. Says the person try to win lotto. I always take my money advice from people who comment on Herald stories. I just don't read comments, to be honest. I never do either, but I've accidentally strolled down too far. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Oh, dear. Yeah, but then most of the commenters do agree that it's more than enough already. I just think like 23 tonight, that's going to sort us, you know? And if you're smart with it, you don't think you don't need to do anything else. I don't think your financial plan and your retirement
Starting point is 00:16:06 should be hoping to wind a lotto. It's like it always is. It's like their people banking on their parents dying. What a cooked retirement plan. Oh my gosh. But you don't know what's going to happen. Your parents end up in a home, all their money's gone.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah. And then you see them out on cruises in the Mediterranean, You're like, how do you spend my money? Come back home and sit on the couch and rot away. The ZM's Podcast Network. Play ZM's Fletch Fawn and Haley. Fletch Fon is so silly, silly, silly, that's silly. Play's silly little pole.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Are you a monster like Vaughan Smith who leaves his pigs on the washing line, even when he takes his clothes off? So I like to, I run a tight ship when it comes to a clothes source. Like if I put up a t-shirt and requires two pigs, I have to do, two yellow pegs. Okay. And when I'm out on the clothes line, I'll be like, oh, yes, there's a yellow peg. I leave them all up on the line on a beautiful old rotary washing line that a listener gave
Starting point is 00:17:14 to me for free last year. Remember that? Yeah, that's right. They're the best at drying. Dude, they rule. I love getting on a nice breezy day. Yeah. Sun in the sky.
Starting point is 00:17:23 It's loaded with sheets. Just aesthetically, for me, it's not the vibe. I've got to huck-y pull down one, you know? But they're sleek. But you don't leave your pegs on the clothes line. You do not. The ones that fold down. You put them in a basket.
Starting point is 00:17:37 But on the old, it's nicer. No. But it's not saving anything. All it's doing is making your backyard look even worse. Yes. You know? Yeah. I agree.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I could give a shit. Nah. Because you still, like, you unpeg them to take the clothes off. Then you're pegging back on. Then you're unpegging to put new clothes on and moving them. If something big's going there, you've got to take five or six pegs off. The sheets. The sheets.
Starting point is 00:18:02 That's nice. I like clearing the line. Oh, I'll put them. In the basket then, such. Have you seen the pig basket is also full recently? I purchased, I'm guessing in the vicinity of 240 new pegs. I went a little crazy because I was like, I need 24 of those ones.
Starting point is 00:18:17 And then I was like, oh, those ones. And I bought a range of pegs. So next time I buy them, I know which ones. The ones that are left standing of the ones that get, just again. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've got abundance of pegs. So that's why some stay on the line.
Starting point is 00:18:29 They said, I would need multiple pig baskets or a much larger pig basket. What about people that have an ice cream container as a pig? basket when it rains it fills up with water in the pegs. You've got to get the holy peck basket. We've got a holy peck basket. Attached to the fence. What do you do with your pigs after taking your washing off the line as the little pole? 79% of people put them in a basket, 21% of them leave them on the line.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Wow. See, does that make you realize now that you're in the minority of people? No, he likes being in the minority. It's a novelty to him. There's a white white. He's a white straight man. He loves it, a little taste. Kara said, pop them in the container.
Starting point is 00:19:04 and the container has to be an old cookie time Christmas cookie bucket. With holes in it? Are you taking that inside or are you drilled holes in the bottom? You've got to take that inside. You're going to drown your pegs. Yeah. And they're going to get rusty. Sophie said if they get left on the line,
Starting point is 00:19:17 chances are they'll fall off and get eaten by a golden retriever. Oh, yeah. Eaton. So when you were a kid, well, I don't know if you guys mowed the lawns when you were kids. Never. We had to mow the lawns. And one of the parts of the lawns to mow was underneath the washing line.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Man, we used to get in so much trouble if mum. I'm going to go for a look afterwards at the lawn and find little purple shards or yellow shards. Yeah, but that's mum's fault for leaving the pegs or not? No, because it was probably us as well. We'd just grab sheets off the lawn. Oh, you go, poing! And the pegs will go, wee! Have you ever, like, made the bed?
Starting point is 00:19:48 And then you get in and there's like pigs all in your sheets? And there's a pig in the sheep. Yeah. It's living, baby. Cass said, always in the basket, but now I'm questioning if I'm giving myself more work by putting it in the basket because I've got to lean down. You're not, no. I mean, the idea is the basket's hanging, so you're not leaning down.
Starting point is 00:20:04 But then you're constantly moving the basket when it hangs on the washing line. You've got to come down to get whatever it is out of the washing basket. You get the pegs at the same time. Did you see what I have the sober washing line? It's a washing basket, a trolley. Oh my God. My mom bought it for me. That is such a nana thing.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It's so nana. It rules. But I get it. That rules. But also where my washing line is on a slight slope and the wheels, I actually, I'll purposely kick the wheel so it's crooked. so it doesn't move. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah, right. Follow me for more life at. He's really running a sort of tight ship here. Isn't he? Bruce said, middle pegs too. Must be nice. Yeah, it is. Those metal pegs they'll last forever.
Starting point is 00:20:46 My husband leaves on. Do they not rust? Sorry, or they galvanized? No, stainless steel or galvanized. God, bushy. I recently purchased some steel pegs that are all in one that were bent that way, but they've got a plastic coating on them. They live on the inside because the sun will absolutely destroy that.
Starting point is 00:21:03 destroy them. My husband leaves them on the line and it infuriates me. Probably to get me, probably to get out of putting the washing out and bringing it in, to be honest. Yep. That's a good laugh. Weaponized incompetence. You just do it so much better than me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Charlotte said, I hate the monsters who leave them on the line. Why would that be a sane option? I bet they also hang a T-shirt from one peg in the middle of the hem. Oh, yes. Don't even give me started on that. Where do you put your pegs? Armpits? No.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Pits so that the pinch is fine. Or the bottom. Put them on the bottom, hang them upside down. I don't mind a peg. Yeah. My dad's been a bit... My day gets a bit pinchy with the pegs. I've noticed a few of my clothes.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Oh, really? With a wrinkled pinch. Oh, God. Is he going down to the hardest pinch? Yeah, maybe. Sounds like you might have to give a written warning to your helpers. I think I will. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Yeah, he also stacks the dishwasher crazy, so... Oh, no, he's trying to get out of that. He'll be getting a word. Yeah, I'm trying to get out of that. I have a little pear apron, said, Aisha, and one of the most... I love those. Along with my most prize possessions, along with my $15 dollar basket trolley
Starting point is 00:22:03 from Bunnings. I wear my apron and I push my trolley every time to go to watch the line. Here's a picture. Oh my God. Are you kidding me? She's included a picture. This is amazing. I can't zoom it. Those pegg aprons are so good. I've got a pegg apron. Of course you do. So many aprons. I got barbecue aprons, peg aprons. Why do you have
Starting point is 00:22:19 a peag apron when you leave them on the line? There's a sure of their pear apron. Doesn't she look like a 1950s dainty housewife? That's so good. Is it a cat? Is that a cat on it? Kangaroos. She'd, um, I reckon she'd make a good scorn. Yeah. Her neighbor's got solar power. Her neighbor's got solar. The neighbor's roof is literally covered in solar panels.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Good. Now, on April 1st, line charges are going up. My power overnight's going to double, apparently, due to estimations. Now, what a great time to have had solar. So many messages in. Someone said, I hang my peg basket off the neck of the shirt I'm wearing. So I don't have to bend down and move to them. Okay. I'm sorry, the bag. I'm sorry, the bag.
Starting point is 00:22:59 basket bin. That is no respect for your fabric. Your collar. No respect for the collar. Maybe you should make a rope that goes around the neck and you can clip that onto that. Because you're going to ruin your t-shirts. Like a dentist chain. Yeah, that's a good idea. Bip chain. A big basket,
Starting point is 00:23:17 Bib chain. Megan said said pig basket must be an old cookie time Christmas one too, no excuses. Again, are you putting holes in the bottom of that? You've got to drill some holes. Okay, they go in an old cookie time bucket with holes drilled in the bottom, says, me. Yes, good. Yeah, wise.
Starting point is 00:23:32 I'll tell you what, cookie time probably should release a special line of cookie time Christmas cookies this year called the future peg basket. Because I use mine as in my compost bin under the sink. Scraps bin. Oh, that's a good idea. Scratch bin with the lid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:45 But that's a great second use. I just put mine into landfill. Not even recycling. Oil winds up in the same place, Haley. We've gone over this. Well, do we have, you know, proof on that? I'll put an apple tracker in the recycling and you can see. Jerome says.
Starting point is 00:23:59 says, I take mine in, UV damage on pegs is no joke. Who knew, okay, who knew this was going to get so heated? So heated. So opinionated. And I hate bending over. I'm 54 years old. The pegs will stay at a reichy height, says Lisa. Love that.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Fair enough. You've done your time. So today, for silly little poll, we said, what do you do with your pegs after taking them off the washing line? 79% of you put them in a basket. Play ZDM's flesh, one and Haley. Now, we're going to talk about maths. And very soon, we are going to touch on the fact that Mal Schilling,
Starting point is 00:24:29 One of the experts passed away. So young. I've just recently, we found out she was not well. Battling cancer. Yeah. So we'll touch on that very soon. But I need to address last night's episode. And I want to ask the question to you,
Starting point is 00:24:45 how bad is your partner at cooking? Because last night, Rachel and Steve, given the challenge for Steve to step up, he's a bit, you know, he's a bit cautious and soft. And so he arranged to cook Rachel a romantic meal. You know, it's good. You're making me a microwave meal? Only the best for my wife.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Two ways to a woman's heart. Either it's chocolate or cheese. What did you make? I kind of went heavy on the cheese. Oh, well that's not a bad thing. Evening nachos. Let me... Cute.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Cute! Cute! Says it all. Wait, microwave nachos? Someone literally texted him before saying, Haley, you haven't even said what the meal was, but could Rachel's bar be any lower? Look, she's really
Starting point is 00:25:32 wanting it to happen for Steve, but let me paint the picture of what was delivered to her. There is a plate, and he serves it on a, like a cooling cake stand. Yeah. Wire cooling cake stand.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Yeah. Played on top. On that is just some nachos, nice corn chips, some melted edam, and he's melted it by microwaving it. So now we're assuming the chips have lost a bit of crunch.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yeah. And then next to it, just on the coffee table, just a open jar of salsa, not put into a, you know, aesthetically placed off. Like that on the thing. And a bit of that, you know, supermarket guac. Yep.
Starting point is 00:26:09 That's got no avocado in it. Oh, yeah. What is the green in that? Yeah. Peas? Yeah. It feels like a peas are doing the heavy lifting when it comes to supermarket.
Starting point is 00:26:18 To green. Yeah. But that was Steve's romantic nachos. Can he just not cook? No. He can't. But the gesture was there. say Rachel's really, you know, making the most of the scraps that she's been given.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Maybe I just love food, but I just wanted to know how to cook. Yeah, I like, I actually enjoy the process of cooking. I sort of slowly taught my, my mum's amazing, but she didn't really teach me. Yeah. Because I wasn't interested. I had to learn a hard way. But don't you think it's weird that people leave home and they don't know how to cook, even just the basics? Grow up.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Or that they don't want to, like, this guy's not 16. He's like, what? Oh, late 30s. And he doesn't know how to cook. That is insane. Do you know, I find it, no, I'm not going to say that. I find it quite unattractive. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 00:27:07 No, it's a, well, it's a providing thing, right? Yeah. You want to be, I think that goes both ways, too. Totally. You just want some nights you want to be provided for and other nights you want to provide. You don't always be amazing, but cable. But what about, is it okay if there is sugar daddy and they just take you out to dinner every night? That's fine.
Starting point is 00:27:23 That's fine? That's fine. That's providing. It's a different sort of providing. That's providing. I feel provided for. It's a different way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:29 So, okay, well, this is what we want to know. Maybe you live with someone that can only do heated cheese on nacho chips in the microwave. Yeah. Do you live with someone? Is your partner just not good at cooking? Or maybe you're a couple on both of you suck at cooking. What do you do, just get takeouts every night? Or microwave meals?
Starting point is 00:27:48 But who can afford that? A, who can afford it and be like, sometimes you just get sick of it? Is that? Yeah. Am I the only one? I just sometimes not want. Takeaways again. Takeaways again.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I don't want something out of a plastic container. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've had messages in already. This is great. We had a flatmate at uni that didn't even know how to make two minute noodles. You just pour water on it.
Starting point is 00:28:09 But what did they used to do after school when they were hungry? Don't know. That's what you have, two minute noodles. That was a part in the movie I saw last night that I actually laughed. I saw Project Hail Mary and I recommend everybody should go see this. I need to. It's so good. He puts, when he put the mustard straight on the raw noodles.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Yeah. Spoiler, Vaughn's. Hey on it. Then he shows it. Yeah, it's so good. Okay. O800 Dahls at N. would love you to give us a call now.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Text root. 9-696. How bad is your partner? How bad? I'm thinking about root to roots. How bad is your partner or your flatmate at cooking? Last night on behalf's
Starting point is 00:28:44 Steve cooked Rachel some microwave nachos with an open jar of salsa and called it his date night nachos. So there was no protein to this meal. No protein. Not even ham. Not even, no, I'm just like the guy doesn't know how to cook.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I wouldn't trust him with mince. Yeah. Or chicken. Especially if he's microwaving it. No, not even bean. Not even a jar of refried beans. Oh no. This is a man in his 30s that cannot cook.
Starting point is 00:29:11 And we want to know this morning, is your partner useless at cooking. Yeah, yeah. So many messaging you guys have been really mean. I do corn chip and cheese in the microwave for 35 seconds and put some sour cream on top and it's yum. With some protein. Yeah, but what are we talking about like a post-school snack? Also, don't get me wrong, I would 100% eat that. Yeah, but it's not dinner, and it's not date night dinner.
Starting point is 00:29:31 It's not dinner. I'd rather hug it. If I've got the time, I'll put it under the grill in the oven because then you get a proper cheese in the mouth, not that weird microwave cheese now. Do you know next time we're doing drinks, we should just do this? Sure. We should get the nachi chos, but in the oven and just put cheese on top.
Starting point is 00:29:45 How old would that be? And then we're just dipping into things. Yeah, that's a good idea. That is so good. Perfect. Amazing. Well, there's some sad situations out there. Georgia.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Good morning. Good morning. Now, what is, how bad is your partner at cooking? Put it this way. He is officially banned from the kitchen unless he's using the microwave. Okay, because he can't mess that up. No. Well, we hope not.
Starting point is 00:30:13 What's his worst dish? Pardon? What's his worst dish? I reckon this guy's pretty much. Well, I usually do all the cooking. Okay. Oh, she's struggling to think of a dish. But if so if he was home alone, if you were out with the girls, the girly pops,
Starting point is 00:30:29 what's he doing? How's he feeding himself? Takeaways. Oh, jalapeno poppers. Well, those little ones you buy from the supermarket and the frozen aisle and you chuck up in the air friar. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Yeah. Yeah. So he's been in the kitchen before, but what, he's just failed. Yeah, he's almost burned it down multiple times. Oh, dear. Oh, God. How did he nearly burn the kitchen down? The first time he left a plastic spatula on the stove top
Starting point is 00:30:58 When it was hot Okay That smell like we all know it Yeah The second time he forgot that he had the chicken On the fry pan Okay, he just forgot And then the third time he tried to reheat
Starting point is 00:31:14 His takeaways, Indian takeaways But put the plastic container in the oven Oh yes Oh, this guy. So, George, sorry, okay, Julia, you married this guy? Not yet. Not yet, not yet.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Not yet. It's not too late, Georgia. Just jump on those apps. Have a little flick, flick. I'd keep kicking that can down the road. Have a little quick. One last look. So good.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Georgia, thank you. Zara, how bad is your partner at cooking? He will only cook dino nuggets and chips, and I still have to supervise to make sure they're not overall. No, Zara, we said, How bad is your partner a cooking night? How bad is your four-year-old? I have a man job.
Starting point is 00:31:56 He is also banned from the kitchen without supervision. He is. Can you hear Inzar's tone of voice how over it she is? What about getting him some cooking lessons? I've tried to teach him how to just cook meat patties in the sandwich press, and even that didn't go well. How do you cock up meat patties in the George Foreman grill? You just jam him in, right?
Starting point is 00:32:17 He's a trucker, so he's never had to cook for himself. or anyone else. So now he's home every night. Is he good at other things? Yeah. Well, he's built a fence and we're about to start fully renewing our house. Okay, well, there goes.
Starting point is 00:32:34 He's good at other stuff. I said there's a massive step up between building a fence and renovating your own house. What a nails, mate. What a nails. Yeah. Is that we're just playing to our strengths in the couple,
Starting point is 00:32:47 aren't we? We're just, you know, one cooks and one... Yeah, what is something, Just for balance, because I don't know I don't know much about him, but I like him. Zara, what are you bad at? I'm not allowed to mow the lawns. Because I do them crooked.
Starting point is 00:33:00 But I did mow them last night. Wait, do you not do line, Sarah? Do you not go line and then line and that line? No, I go all over the place. I did them last night and all four neighbours came over and were like, is he dead? You're touching the lawn. I can't believe Zara is so whilly and milling.
Starting point is 00:33:17 What do you just like? It's like you just say, I think I hate them as a couple. Yes. I think I want you to hang up on Zara, willy-nilly on the lawns, and this guy can't do you let me cook meat and a sandwich press. I think Zara and your partner need a, like a reality crew following them around.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Yes. I love that. Zara, thank you. Love to the boyfriend. Yeah, some messages in. I had a flatmate once, and we got corn on a cob. And it still had the thing on it. She's like, what's this?
Starting point is 00:33:43 We said, that's corn. And she's like, the same corn. And they said, yes. And she's like, where's the corn? peeled back the husk and she's like, what? What the hell? How does it get out of that and into the bag? You've got to do it yourself.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Because she thought it was just inside the husk. She just assumed it was just loosely packed corn. Jesus, that's terrible. My mother-in-law's shepherd pie had no mince or potato. What was in it then, Blair? Those are the two you've... Wait, do you listen to the two ingredients that make an or no cottage pie? It sounds like she just poured the maggy pack into a dish.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And hope for the best. Well, I don't understand what. It's just frozen vegetables and magic powder. Did she even look at that? How do you do that? So many questions. I do want to say that it has raised in me a deep desire to make shepherd's pie though. Yum!
Starting point is 00:34:33 It's winter soon. She makes potter's lamb, eh? Cottage pie is beef. I do cottage pie then, yeah. You can celebrate daylight savings. I make your big cotty pee. Not this weekend next weekend. I'm going to do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Okay, bring some in. Bring some in. Oh, be in barley. Oh. Oh. Oh, my God, is it another surprise? No, just me. What about me?
Starting point is 00:34:54 Wait, are you surprising me? No, I'm just not. Oh, no, what about me? What are you taking? Just a friend. But then I would have thought, this is our special place. One of our two.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I know, I thought it was our special place. I'm sorry, this is our special place. And now you're taking someone else to make it special with them? Well, we'll go again. It's just a sure. No, my God, I don't have a surprise. It's solid. I'm going into a big body of work
Starting point is 00:35:17 and I'm just giving myself a little trait. It's still, He got brothers. It's still special. Wow. Look at me. I'm going to take someone to our favorite restaurant without you. No, you wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:35:29 No, you wouldn't. I might fly to Christchurch. To go to first trip without you. What? Oh, that's obviously a lie. I can't afford either of those things. Yeah, yeah. The flight or the meal.
Starting point is 00:35:37 It didn't hurt me. Didn't hurt me at all. The first meal I ever got cooked was gluten-free pasta, broccoli and barbecue sauce from a bottle with some cashries on top. Oh, yeah. See you. Wait a second. I might try and eat that.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Barbecue sauce and pasta. and broccoli. There's cheese though, right? Oh, no, there's no mention of cheese here. Oh, okay, well, there's no cheese. It's also gluten-free pasta, otherwise known as wet cardboard. Yeah. Or like coagulated mass if you overdo a gluten-free.
Starting point is 00:36:02 You've got to undo it. Makes you feel a bit sick, actually. I feel a bit sick, too. I had to tell my husband, who was 39, had a toast a crumpet yesterday. He put her honey on the raw crumpet and pocket in our daughter's lunchbox. I said, that needs to be toasted, and he said, how long for? He put a raw crumpet. With honey on it and a luner luncheon.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Fox. Jesus. So my old flatmate's boyfriend was useless. One time he was making a roast chicken for dinner and she had to work late. She was making a roast chicken for dinner. She had to work late. So she called him and said, can you cook it? And he said, I don't know how. And she said, all he has to do is put it on the oven on the 180. So that's what he does. He puts it on the oven, in a rack,
Starting point is 00:36:38 no pan or anything. Wait, with the wrapping on it? No word of the wrapping. But also then just turned the dialed to one and he didn't actually select what kind of cooking. So got home to a completely raw chicken that had a just dripped all the through the... Wait, raw dogged the raw chicken
Starting point is 00:36:54 on the rack and then didn't even turn the oven on. Just said, just turned the dial to 1.80 and didn't if I was that useless, I'd just would have got to the supermarket and I got a rotisserie chock. Oh my god. So the gluten-free broccoli barbecue sauce guy and the raw crumpet guy's the same guy.
Starting point is 00:37:13 We're going to follow up text. Oh, by the way, this is the same dude guys. Wow, okay. Oh. And you had... You chose to procreate with this fellow. Must be good at other things. Must be.
Starting point is 00:37:25 My boyfriend puts mint sauce on scrambled eggs. What? Mint sauce. Mint sauce. No. On scramble. I try it. With chili?
Starting point is 00:37:35 With chili. With chili. With chili. With chili. With chili. With Asian, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:40 My partner bought Wock and noodle and pretended that he cooked it. I told me after I've been telling him how amazing it was and that I really appreciated the effort. And it was the effort that counted and he reeling out it was delicious and he said that I purchased that from Waka Noodle and just put it in a bowl. And I got really angry at him. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I'd a flat mate that asked if you mashed potatoes before or after they cooked. I mean, give it a go before that cooked, dude. You know, I'd say before. Give it your God's honest best to get that thin, pathetic metal masher to destroy a rock hard, raw potato. The ZM Podcast Network.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Play ZM's Flesh, Forne, and Haley. Shannon's made a new food discovery. She sent a group chat picture yesterday. This is the first time she's ever had long grapes. Guys, my life has changed. Look at my grapes. No. I've seen.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I bought these by accident once, like last year or the year before, and I was like, what have I done? You've never seen them. I have never seen them in my life. Yeah, they're like grapes, but long fingers. Like finger limes. Finger limes. It's got a little belly button at the bottom too.
Starting point is 00:38:54 To me it's like when you've been seeing standard nipples, then you see one of them real long ones? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, do you want to try one? I'll bring one in. Yeah, I will. I've never seen them before. They're a distinct variety of seedless black table grapes that look like tiny dark purple eggplants or cylinders.
Starting point is 00:39:12 I hate them. I know, they're so long. They're real long. Moon drops are sweet sapphires according to. Oh, I hate. Like that is literally like a little finger. That is the length of my pinky. If you put that in front of your little finger,
Starting point is 00:39:25 it's like you've lost the circulation to your finger. Frost bite. Frost bite. Do you know why I like it so much? It takes three bites to eat this. That is such good economy for a great. Well, I can fit that whole thing in my mouth. Haley just did.
Starting point is 00:39:43 In his room. Isn't this the great? How do they make them? Yeah, I don't usually like dark grapes anyway. I'm a green grape gal. I told Shannon on the group chat yesterday at the vineyards they tie little strings on to stretch them. And she didn't know if it was really. When they're on the vine, they attach small fishing weights and it just elongates them.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I kind of thought maybe you're being serious. But I love that. Your response was, I don't know if you're being serious or not. Well, it just feels like they could be, you know how they make pearls, like an oyster farm? I kind of imagine. They're inside the fish. No, but when they make the oyster. The oyster makes it south.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Queen, what are you saying? Queen. What? Oysters aren't a human creation. No, I'm not saying they are, but there's those farms. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just visualising.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Out of interest, how do you think they work? The grapes or the oyster? No, the oyster farms. No, no, now I'm lost on oysters. There's just like a big string in the ocean and then they're like clipped on to it. And then you farm for pearls. The pearls just in. it.
Starting point is 00:40:50 But to find out. We've got lost here. Yeah. They taste like a normal grape. It's fine. I don't like dark grapes. But it's a weird. If I had the option,
Starting point is 00:40:58 I wouldn't buy them because I just find them weird. I feel like it feels like they're going to touch me. You know what I mean? It feels like the hand's going to grab me. Well, they were so expensive, but I was so excited because I've never seen this before. And now I've used my fruit budget for the week. Yeah. On one.
Starting point is 00:41:14 You just gave me one. Yeah, I know. She's eaten most of them. I've eaten most of them. I've eaten most of the container because it's just the joy of having three bites of a grape is just next level to me. So I'm supposed to pay for less skin.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Yeah. But now I'm out of fruit for the week. So if I get scurvy, just know that it's the grape's fault. Yeah, right. You can have a slice of an apple. Yeah. Someone has described it as Grimmis's thing. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Grimis's ding-dong. Grimis' ding-dong. Do you know what Grimis would have a little pinky diddles? He probably has a reasonably sized. He's just obese, so it's hidden. Yeah, you've got to lift up the, yeah, yeah, the gut. That's the number one way to make it look bigger is you lose a bit of weight. Would be quite a shock to see that giant grimace and then have a tiny, a tiny dingle.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I already. He's a taste bud. That's what he is. That's what he's sweet, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, so he's drinking Ronald McDonald's packing if we're talking? Yeah, he's skinny white guy. He's skinny white guy. Skinny white guy with red hair, skinny right ginger.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Yeah. Massive, massive way. The ZDM podcast network. What's going on? Zat M's Fletch, Vawn and Haley. After that last break, you've really left me with a tough task to do it, just a little bit of a mood reset, if I may.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Some sad news out of the maths universe. I think we, have we spoken about this on here? That Mel Schilling, the expert, one of the experts on the couch, not Alessandra and not our good friend John. Thanks to turn my microphone on and up fletch. Just because I don't care about maths, it doesn't mean I that actually. Well, you got so... Just because I speak for the portion of the audience,
Starting point is 00:42:45 it's just like Jesus Christ. Maths again, shoot me. Um, go on there. You got, um... I don't know who any of the people are, and I didn't know that Mel was sick. Yeah. So I don't know if we didn't talk about it on air or I'd just stop listening. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:57 And that's something my brain does. It does. When we talk about maths. It gets distracted with the thoughts of World War II planes. It does. And Grimmis's... Grimis's wing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:06 So, um, Mel Schilling, the expert on Maffes. Uh, Maff's UK as well. She was actually based in London at the end. Um, and Maffes Australia, of course, has died after her battle with colon cancer, 54 years old. She was diagnosed at the end of 2023, had a tumour the size of a lemon, they removed it and thought she was all clear.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Then in February they just did a little, let's, you know, have a little double check and it spread through her lungs, 16 rounds of chemotherapy, all while filming the show. Like, I never knew. I had no idea she was sick at all when I've watched every season. Was it only just recently she made it public?
Starting point is 00:43:42 Yeah, because she was given the news from doctors that's it. They can't do anything else. And so they were just, just going to, if you were watching the latest series, she's just radiant, energetic, beautiful, you know, she just obviously just held it all together and enjoyed her work. Yeah, really, really sad. She was, you know, at home and with her husband and daughter and everything like that. And John Aiken, our good friend, his heart is breaking.
Starting point is 00:44:06 He left a beautiful message on his Instagram. She came into my life 10 years ago and together we rode the maths juggernaut. Great use of the word juggernaut. being there for one another through it all. Nothing could prepare us for what lay ahead, but she was always in the foxhole with me. Behind the scenes, we had so much fun before going on set. We would sing, dance, face-time her daughter and eat lollies.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Every time I came to set, she would squeal, jump out of her chair and run and embrace me, squeezing me tight. Through all these years, she's been an amazing, committed, loyal, fun friend, very kind. And she's always had a driving force behind her family. She was a role model. And when her illness struck, she never complained. She kept her challenges to herself and continued to deliver time and time again.
Starting point is 00:44:46 He was an inspiration of fighter and a leader. He said, Dearest Miller, I want to thank you for everything you've given me over the past decade. I am distraught sadly and devastatingly, though, I have to accept that you are now gone. Very sad.
Starting point is 00:44:57 What a lovely post. I know, it's a very lovely post. And he shared a photo of them on the first season, you know, doing like promotional breakfast TV. And then that was them just this last season, side by saying, look at it. She just, I know. So aggressive that cold cancer.
Starting point is 00:45:13 How long ago was that filmed? Would have been End of last year Yeah, I think we were talking about some filming at the end of last year Yeah, end of last year October last year Just in always these things
Starting point is 00:45:26 It's awful that has to happen But a timely reminder Check, check, check check everything The Z&P Podcast Network So to go back in 2014 A Mugshot hit the internet It was a photo Of convicted felon
Starting point is 00:45:44 Jeremy Meeks, who had been caught with an unregistered weapon in his car. Yes. And when asked to, you know, deal with it with the cops, he resisted arrest. The reason he ended up getting sent to prison is because he had a previous conviction for grand theft auto. He'd stolen a car. Yep. So they were like, we're going to lock you away for a little bit.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Even with those blue eyes, they've sent him to prison. I think he just needed a little kiss. You know what I mean? That's when hot felon. Hot felon hit the internet. Yeah, changed his life. Overnight it became a viral sensation. Even to this day, he's got 1.5 million followers on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Still modelling? Still modelling. So he recently, so the reason we're talking about him again, is he has just done a podcast called Inside True Crime. I've listened to this before. People are raving about this episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's by this guy called Matthew Cox.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I've listened to it before, but this is, it's an amazing episode with him. and he divulges into a lot of things, one of them being the amount of visitors he had. But they're very strict comes to visiting because I'm getting random people visiting me and I'm denying them. Before I even walk up the stairs into the section
Starting point is 00:47:00 and I'm like, I don't know who that person is. I could see him through the glass. I'm like, I don't know who that person is. They're like, well, I'm still taking your visit. You can deny it, but I'm still going to take your visit for the week. Right. So now my family can't come. Right, because I got random people coming to see me.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And it's just, it was so frustrating. So in prison, you don't choose who gets your visitor slots. The visitors apply for them. It's kind of like first and first served. You do it online, I'm guessing. So he had so many insane fans, paparazzi, media and modeling agencies visiting him constantly that his family couldn't. And he kept saying to him, like, some of them were repeat offenders.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And he was like, please don't come. Like the whole time they're, please. I want to see my family. He's a kid, he's a son. He had a son with the heiress to the top shop fortune. What? I'm just looking up because he's got two sons. His first son's name's Jeremy Jr.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Oh, my God. And his second son's name's Jaden. Right. And yeah, Chloe Green, who he had his second son with, is the heir to the top shop fortune. Was it post prison? 2018. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:07 So she got in with the model and was like, she likes a bad boy. And she was with Mark Anthony, Jennifer Lopez's ex as well at one stage. Oh, wow. She sounds like she's got an interesting story to tell. She's got a type. Yeah, God. Hot brown.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Hot brown guys. So he said, so at the time that this went viral, he was already in prison. He had no idea. He had no social media. He only was like, what the hell when he started seeing his mug shot on TV screens everywhere. He said he was getting 300 letters a day, naked pictures, money, everything. He said there was so much he couldn't keep up. So he started sharing it around with the other.
Starting point is 00:48:42 the inmates and it became a whole thing the whole time he was in prison, just like take this. He signed his first modelling deal while still incarcerated. Guards turned on him because of his fame. They were like, you little shit, basically. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Had a downside. They said the officers started resenting him, especially as all the press was like coming out and showing up. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, and like since he left, this whole event turned his life around.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Apparently, it's an amazing episode. Producer Shannon was saying that he lifted the lid on what happens like also between the female staff in the prison and all these naughty men in prison. I will be watching this the second I get home today because this looks very interesting. Yeah, they were talking about female guards,
Starting point is 00:49:29 but also not only guards, but they were talking about a dentist technician that a lot of the men were keen on, which just throws me back to prison break. You guys remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so this really tickles a part of my brain. He did have a bit of a went,
Starting point is 00:49:41 Worth Miller vibe. Yes, she did. Yes, she did. Yeah. I would just, it was to be so bad. Well, if you want to listen to the episode, people are absolutely raving about it. Yeah, it's called Inside True Crime.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I'll be listening on IHart. But wherever you get your podcasts. Ding, what's the KPI? That's a KPI. Where's the VAL? Where's the KPI bell? I'm worried about how you don't see the bell when you're looking at it. I'll do this.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I can't see Bell. And you'll be like, I can't see the bell. He's distracted by Jeremy Makes's dark skin and blue eyes. I was looking up if Jeremy Meeks had like a sister. Yeah, I think he's gone down a rabbit hole of hot X's. The Meeks family, he's easily the most attractive in the Meeks family. Everybody else.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Does he a girlfriend? Currently. Just have a look. Just have a look. I'll just have a look then. Play ZM's flesh, forne and Haley. We want to talk about why, what's something that's so embarrassing that happened that it haunts you to this day,
Starting point is 00:50:40 I was recently telling someone about one of my, I've got a few of these. I think every human does, right? Oh, yeah. I remember so clearly, my uncle Murray, Uncle Murray, Fletcher, familiar with Uncle Murray. Imports, fireworks. Used to, back in the day,
Starting point is 00:50:57 you turned up one fireworks at the crater fireworks. No questions asked. No one's beating you if you're an uncle that import. You're the favorite uncle. He's my godfather too. So your godfather's standing with fireworks. Cool runs in the god line, whatever that is. and he had a British girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:51:12 He'd got back from his OE and he had a British girlfriend and it was her first time like meeting our family or something and my mum said, why don't you pick her some flowers because it's Valentine's Day and we're having a family barbecue. Yeah. Why don't you pick her some flowers? It'll be a nice welcome to the family. I said, okay, and I was like nine, eight or nine.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Yep. Picked her some flowers. Deborah was her name. Walked up to her and I said, hi, it's nice to meet you and I, I've picked you these flowers and the whole family turned on me. The whole, my granddad's roast them as like, you're trying to steal your uncle's girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:51:41 And I'm like, huh? No, eight or nine. And my uncle's like, hey, come on. Halfway around the world, and you're trying to steal it from under me. Now at the time, obviously, just joking with, it still gives me this feeling of just like, and I think I ran to the car and cried for a bit.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Yeah. And I still, I still think about it every now and then, and I was just like, every, it was everybody turned on me. Oh, yeah. Everybody. Mom was like, oh, God, you picked her a few too many. I'm like, you tell me a day! And your dad's like, God, he's the sockers old.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Yeah, it's all bad. Getting in there like his old man. The reason we're bringing this up is because a woman shared a story online and she had been away and hadn't been spending a lot of time with her partner and he was working late and she wanted to lure him back home for a little. Yeah. What are you wearing this shawl? Have you got a hicky?
Starting point is 00:52:32 No. We don't have a hickie. I'm cold. Have you got one? Prove it. Prove it. Hic check. Hic check.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Hic check. It's a hickie free show just in case It's cold in here. Sorry, I just... I'm poorly, I'm sick. Yeah, okay, I just... I've working up with a sniffle. Sorry to derail that.
Starting point is 00:52:48 I just... You keep wearing this and it's like you're hiding a hickie. Because we literally work in a freezer. Yeah. And I'm just unwell. I'm trying to do that. Anyway, carry on. Anyway, so she tries to lure in her husband to come home
Starting point is 00:52:59 and she makes up a little ruse. Have you got a hickie or you just wearing a shawl because it's cold in here? I just decided it looked cool on you and I wanted if it looked as good on me. It doesn't. Fletch, can you put your... jump her around your shoulders, we're doing it. You've got short sleeves, though, so your son's a look as cool. It's hard to do a short sleeve thing around yet.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Okay. Okay. Now it does look like a finance bro. Yeah, you do. You look like a golfing finance bro. Okay. It's the stock market, douche, look. Isn't that nice?
Starting point is 00:53:24 Arms are out? Yeah, but the neck and shoulders are warm. Yes, lovely. Anyway, she tries to lure her husband back home by sending him an emergency message. Oh my God. It's the dishwasher is flooding. It's everywhere like this. and then she spreads herself
Starting point is 00:53:40 but naked on the couch to receive you know he's going to walk in and be like she's in the lingerie or news wait the dishwasher is fine dishwash is fine she's hoping he's going to come home on his lunch break to deal with it and no he sends over his father so her father-in-law comes into the house
Starting point is 00:53:59 and she is naked and waiting yeah right and this was a number of years ago and she hasn't stopped thinking about since yeah okay well this is what we want to know, and already people have messaging and I love this so much.
Starting point is 00:54:11 We ask on Instagram too. I might get the ball rolling, man. Roll that ball. I'll get the ball rolling. Okay, so what was so embarrassing... Sorry, I'm just with your short sleeves, it's like almost too tight around your neck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:23 But you don't have a hickie? Okay. So what, to this day, is so embarrassing it haunts you? Ria said, when I was nine, a man lifted me onto a pony and said, oh, that one's had a few too many wheat bucks. Far out. Nicholas said I fell face first
Starting point is 00:54:38 Down and up escalator in London Because I got on the wrong one And tried to get off I fainted in the Rambozian food court Oh Anonymous please I'm a physio And I told my patient with the stiff back
Starting point is 00:54:54 He was the king of stiffies I meant stiffness But even that wouldn't have been much better Yeah no The king of stiffness First date with my current partner And my heel got stuck in the grate on a footpath and I was like, oh no, help.
Starting point is 00:55:07 I'm stuck. That's embarrassing. You're probably indebt yourself to him though. Yeah, probably. If he got to rescue you, a little bit of a rescuer's complex situation. Okay, well, 9-6-96, text us. You can give us a call as well. 0,800, dials it in.
Starting point is 00:55:21 What was so embarrassing, it haunts you to this day. We want to know about something so horrifying it wakes you up at 2 o'clock in the morning, 30 years after it happened. Oh, God, that's awful. There was a woman who was trying to lure her husband home at lunchtime for a little and said that the dishwasher was flooding and he instead sent his father
Starting point is 00:55:39 and there she was waiting naked for something else. The dishwasher was fine. No shortage of texts and calls. Brilliant. Okay, let's start with Esther. Esther, what was so embarrassing it haunt you to this day?
Starting point is 00:55:55 Yes, hello. I'm feeling of anxiety even just thinking about this again. Anyway, so I was staying at my wonderful boyfriend's house now, fiance, shout out Andy. I think he's listening. Shout out, Andy.
Starting point is 00:56:08 That's an engagement KPI. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. But this side note, we were the couple that rated a relationship online, by the way. Anyway, all go.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Oh, yes, you guys were so far. Yeah, that was so far. Yeah. Yes, yeah, yes. He'll go strong. We've got a house. Lovely. Anyway, so this is back in the day when I used to sleep naked.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Sorry, Fletch, but I'm much mature now and I no longer sleep naked. No, no. No, no. Pajamas was a lot of go. Full pajamas. because I've been trying naked a bit lately. Don't hate it. I'm full, I'm full pajamas, socks, like pants tucked into socks.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Oh, gross. I'm sorry, that's a red flag. That's an infection wedding to happen. You've got to let the girl breathe at night. You do. Well, sometimes I even wear toe socks. I hate... Hang on.
Starting point is 00:56:53 What's happened to you, Wester? And you're about to tell us something more embarrassing than that? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it really is more embarrassing. Okay, so back, yeah, back in the day. when I was naked, Andy's bedroom was right next to the bathroom in his family home. And he lived downstairs, I was so used to no one being around, it was fine. So I woke up, went to get ready for work.
Starting point is 00:57:20 I was, again, start naked. Don't know if I need to emphasize that anymore, but I opened the door to go to the bathroom, bush out, sits out, and his grandma was standing right there at the door. I think even if it's the family home and there's an upstairs downstairs situation. It's bold, yeah. It is bold, yeah. Well, look, to sleep naked in the room, no one's going to walk in.
Starting point is 00:57:44 But I also shouldn't have had the ball to walk out. Yeah. You need it in a robe. But you still think about it. You still think about it to this day and you're just like, what did Nana say to the side of your bush? That almost makes it worse because usually I'd be one of those people that could laugh about it and then let it go.
Starting point is 00:58:02 This lovely little old lady does not speak a lick of English. Oh, no. And so we never mentioned it. Andy's never mentioned it. And all I can see at the dinner table, when we got out for dinner, I can just imagine that she is whispering to Andy's family that they saw my... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll never know.
Starting point is 00:58:23 I'll never know because I don't know Chinese. Oh, mate. I think vagina's the same in Chinese. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it? Vachina. Thank you Esther. Let's go to Sarah.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Sarah, what was so embarrassing? It still haunts you to this day. So I was about five, and, you know, when you're in school and you're, you know, crossing your legs and trying to be a really good child. Well, I was wearing a skirt one day, and my foot got stuck in my skirt, and my skirt fell down.
Starting point is 00:59:05 But, you know, kids are cruel, so I got laughed at. And it's definitely, it's stuck with me to this day, and I'm 30 now. Oh, babe. And this happened when you were, what, like five or something? Yeah. Oh, wow. I still even remember the skirt that I was wearing.
Starting point is 00:59:19 It was, like, really thoroughly. Yeah. You never forget the detail. Did they give you a nickname? No, no, unfortunately not. Yeah. Fortunately not. Fortunately not.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Yeah, yeah. And you still remember, it's horrible. It's like, remember at school when people would, boys would down trail each other and then the undies would come down to her and you're like yeah yeah sarah thank you awesome messages in a colleague i had a crush on said she had to take tomorrow off she was going to her nana's unveiling and i said oh awesome have fun i don't know what an unveiling was oh yeah awesome have fun awesome have fun they're a thrill i had a patient grab my boob when i was moving her over she wouldn't let go and then she said that's a soft elbow and i was like you've actually got a
Starting point is 00:59:59 handful of tit they laughed i jumped out i jumped out from behind the curtain naked and yelled boo because I thought it was my sister but it was the postman delivering a package. I died. He left. Being a courier, I was delivering a bunch of flowers. They opened the door. I said, who's the lucky lady? And then I realized that person was in black and I looked around behind them and everybody wasn't black.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I was like, these are funeral flowers. Who's the lucky lady? Well, she's dead actually. Yeah, lucky that she's not paying $3.25 for a liter of gas, I guess. Somebody said, on the school bus, I was showing off and a swinging on the bars. Oh, no. And I
Starting point is 01:00:35 My hand slipped and I came off and I landed on a group of boys, but my skirt also came up in the action, so that wasn't great. There's so many from childhood. We're just not moving on from them. I lost my undies out of my bag at primary school and went to swimming at the school. Paul came back to class and they were on the floor. I was just like, not my undies. And for the rest of the day the teacher kept saying,
Starting point is 01:00:54 whose undies are these? And I was sitting in Commando, no undies just been like, never said them before in my line. I reckon that teacher knew by the look on your face and they were just getting pure joy out of that. When I was about seven, I was sitting on the mat in class at mat time in the middle of all the other kids,
Starting point is 01:01:09 and I let out what I hoped would be a small silent fart. No. But instead, it was horrifically loud and reverberated on the mat. Very quickly, I went from being in the middle of everyone to sitting alone. Oh, it was scourged. It was scourged away from him.
Starting point is 01:01:23 If it had shuffled to get away from me, I'm in my 40s, and I still feel it. Wow. It was like the kid that did it. You remember the school assembly chairs and there were those hard wooden benches? But the wood was real, and it was loosely attached to the steel frame with rivets
Starting point is 01:01:37 and someone would fart and they would just be a... Yeah, fribbibir the whole thing. I am what society would call a fatty. My car broke down on them and the McDonald's drive-thron, I had to hop out and blight. Oh, babe. At least you can laugh about it. I hope you're laughing about it.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I hope you're not crying about it. My mom and dad split up... Oh, God. My mom and dad split up when I was younger and I always carried the fear that it was my fault. So in my 30s, I finally asked Mom because I was like, I'll clear the air. No.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Mom was at my fault. She goes, yeah, it kind of was. And I was like, oh, so it's worse than I imagine because I always thought maybe, but now I know for sure that it was. Well, didn't you just lie? Yeah, you would. You would, right? Did you read the ovarian cyst one?
Starting point is 01:02:21 No, I didn't read the ovarian. I was working my way out. There's so many. Someone said that they had an ovarian cyst burst during adult fun time, which created a flooding of blood. Poor guy called the ambulance But by the time they arrived
Starting point is 01:02:36 I was fine But 13 years later That poor guy's still here We married her Oh nice Our first day I'm a new job At a Māori institution
Starting point is 01:02:44 On Paquia My boss I met me Went in for a honi I was like I want some hug Weird face angles About a centimetre Away from kissing
Starting point is 01:02:52 When we realised what was happening I've kissed a nose For sure Yeah At a marae I'm not sure Um My
Starting point is 01:02:58 You gotta go down the line And it's like You sort of grab the hand And then sometimes The women switch to a cheek kiss. And then the guys go back to a hongy. It's an absolute minefield.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Someone said, in 20 years my daughter will be calling him with the story about how she thought I was in pain because I was making noise in a bedroom and she opened the door and opened it at the moment of Highmax. Yes. So expect that call in 20 years. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:24 Okay. Right. Someone put it in the calendar to this phone again in 20 years. We had a Christmas do. We had a Christmas do. No, we had a Christmas do, and I put my son down on a play mat to play on the floor. And as I stood back up, I stepped on the back of my skirt, and the skirt came down, revealing me in a G string.
Starting point is 01:03:45 So we said, remember that fad, like a year or two ago? It was guessed the sound of my fart before. Yes. I'm about to fart, guess the sound, and someone guesses the sound? I did it. I didn't have pants on. I just had a long t-shirt on, pushed her hat shed on the carpet. When you're like, hey, guess this, drop.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Oh, my gosh. God, we were on a plane, full plane as it was taking off. It was like, oh my God, smoke! I tried to get out of my seat. I'm yelling, smoke, smoke, smoke. My husband was like, calm down. It's the clouds. But it was too late.
Starting point is 01:04:23 I already stood up screaming, smoke, smoke, smoke, on takeoff. Text of the week, text of the week. Text of the week. We'll give you a $50 dollars animates about you. Thanks to animates making happy happen for pets. Love that. So many we just can't get to. Can we just do one more?
Starting point is 01:04:37 I'm a member of the Itty Bitty Titty Committee. And when I was playing netball I just put on two of those chicken cutlets in my bra mid-game one of the chicken cutlets going flying out and just lands in the middle of the court. Those things are like
Starting point is 01:04:51 so slampy. The ZM Podcast Network Play ZM's Fleshhorn and Haley. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do This week, do-do-do-do-do-do. This week we're looking into the flavor combinations that are famous.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Yes. And maybe how did they end up coming together? So far with covered cheese and onion. Peasants. They needed an easy sandwich that would last in carry-round peanut butter and jelly. We've learned that. What about lamb and mint? So lamb and mint is one I've got on the...
Starting point is 01:05:34 Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Because it's always like, huh? And then you have it, you're like, okay. Do you want lambment today? No, no, no. This is a sort of versatile guy I am. I think go with your plan, because now I'm curious to know what you've got planned.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Okay, well, I've got planned today, chili and chocolate. Oh, okay, good, good. Chili and chocolate comes from the Aztecs. I was going to say, does it have an Aztex slash Mollay history? A Mollay, Moli, Halei Moli. Mexican, the Mollay, like the dark, dark chocolate with the chili. Oh, my God, it's beautiful. So the story of Chile and chocolate
Starting point is 01:06:10 goes back 3.5,000 years to the Olmec civilization in Mexico refined by the good old days. Gas prices, man. Oh, necks and nothing. You can pull up in an Aztec four quarter. It was like 8 cents a later. Yeah, it was so cheap.
Starting point is 01:06:24 Good old days. Good old days. And someone came out and filled it up for you? Yeah, they did. Yeah, and a friendly service. Yeah, friendly service. And free corn chips too. And flybys. No way on.
Starting point is 01:06:33 And flybys are still around. Flybys is still around. So cacao was consumed as a bitter chili-spiced ceremonial drink. Never sweet. Never solid. No, because cacao nibs. They're not sweet. No, they're not. It's just chocolate, you're bitter.
Starting point is 01:06:52 They're bitter. So it was sacred and it was only ever used in religious ritual, offered to the gods, served to emperors and worries. If you got some, it was pretty special. The heat of the chili and the bitterness of the cacao. They were deliberately intense. They were meant to be an overwhelming. religious situation.
Starting point is 01:07:08 So then the conquistatos arrive in the area. The Spanish conquistadors. These hot Spanish turn up, don't they? Oh, no. Yeah, but... Here we go. They made a real mess.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Yeah. They did bring some nice architecture, though, didn't they to Central and South America? Yeah. Yeah, but I would... Give them that, Vaughn, give them that. I would argue that the pyramids, the Aztec pyramids and stuff
Starting point is 01:07:28 were no slouches when it came to architects. No, no, well, they weren't. Architecture. True. So they drank the drink in like colonial, Colonial forces, yeah, world round were like, ugh, stop that.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Yuck! Stop that. Can we add some sugar or some alcohol? That's what happened. The sugar trade introduced sugar to these people who hadn't had sugar before. And they were like, take the chili out, it's hot because, you know, white people arrive
Starting point is 01:07:51 and they're just like, spicy, not in the Spanish were, you know, white, white. Yeah. The British when they came here in the 1800s. So they replaced the chili with sugar, and then that started again, getting traded around and people were like, oh, yum, yum, yum.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Chocolate. Chocolate. This is chocolate. It's a sweet treat. It's a sweet treat. And went around and it was still only for the very sort of like well-to-do because it was internationally traded good until they could start throwing it elsewhere. The big Whitaker's blocks back then were like 30 cents.
Starting point is 01:08:20 A king size. They were so cheap. You can get them when you get your gas. And are Whitakers that are co-lab with Aztecornships. Yeah, they were yum. Chocolate covered Aztecornship. Yeah, they were great. It was limited in a dish.
Starting point is 01:08:31 So now the dark chocolate and the chili. which we have now is just literally return to an original recipe. Still, I bet a lot sweeter though. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Shug's in it now. That dark chocolate that you get
Starting point is 01:08:45 that is that bitter, dark, dark chocolate with the chili and it is the better one. The sweet chili chocolate. No, yeah, like the 95% or 98% cacao! Yeah, Ghana or cacao! Cacao! Chili, young.
Starting point is 01:08:59 So today's fact of the day in the combination story of chocolate and chili is that essentially, we're just reverting to the original recipe for chocolate. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day, day. Doodoo do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. The Zat M Podcast Network. Play Zatins, Fleshhorn and Haley.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Just having a quick little goggle here. A rapper name generator. Okay. Just because I... How's that spell? R-A-P-E-R. No, generator. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I think you were going to tell us a story about a rapper whose name was generator. Oh, no. Oh, no, hon. A rapper name generator. I was like, that's an interesting name for a rapper. It would have an 8 in it. Yeah, G-E or J-E-N-8 or R.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Yeah, right. No. And what's the name of a criminal? Who's a crime, a criminal? Al Capone. Al Scott. Capone. David Bain.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Something really pleasant, kittens. An adjective to describe you or your music. Bad. The name of your favorite childhood pet, Shack. Okay, let's see what this name is. I'm just on a generic. Why was your black cat called Shack, Haley? Because I was young and the cat was Blah.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Okay. And I kept telling all my mum's friends. I named her, her, by the way. Yeah, okay. Great. Where'd you get that? Okay, rapper Rachel, Capone Bone, Halyamus S. That would be your rapper name.
Starting point is 01:10:46 It's too long. H-S. Spout, like, A-I-T-C-H, E-S, totes-L. Right, why do you need a rapper name? Okay, because I think I may be entering into the rapper world. Right, okay. The hip-hop world, and I need to be prepared. Okay, is the hip-hop world still happening?
Starting point is 01:11:03 I thought it all just kind of... Yeah, New Zealand. New Zealand hip-hop used to be huge, right? And I'm sure New Zealand hip-hop fans are listening to now being like, there still is, but not... We're Scrib at. Where's Dehameau? We're Savage at? Savage where McCor-Sat.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Where's the Decepticons? Where's P-Money? Where's Fast Crew? Where's Fast Crew? Because I got. Because I got. But yesterday, Hip-P very much felt alive. I was walking from a car park to, you know, somewhere else in town. Well, that sounds dodgy now. Somewhere else. Oh, my rehearsal space in town.
Starting point is 01:11:34 It wasn't dodgy. Right. I'm just there all the time. I'm trying to make it seem like I could do other things other than radio and go into this rehearsal space and panic. But I was just walking along and then I could see people as they were walking through the square in the center of town kind of diverting around a group of people. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Like going at the back, going behind, up the stairs, really out of their way, up the stairs and kind of back down to get past what I saw was like a camera crew. And I was like, oh my God, I want, I wonder if I know. anyone? Is it a Kiwi camera crew? Or is it DeNus? Is it Paddy Gower? Maybe it's our mate John Campbell? She sees a camera and she's just like, get you back in front of that. Well, I do get myself a little, you know, hair flick, just to sort of make sure if I were to enter the news, I looked all right.
Starting point is 01:12:19 Okay. And that's when I saw it in front of the camera, very small crew, in front of the camera was just a singular man. And he had sort of like camo baggy pants on, a white singler and a big blingy chain. and a cap and then music started playing and it was yo yo,
Starting point is 01:12:40 bop, bop, my girl, my girl. My girl, gonna get a whine her, put it on a hair's a fan of it's on a girl, you're so lovely. Like a pretty little fan, and it was a hip-hop artist and he was making a little music
Starting point is 01:12:54 in front of the Auckland Town Hall. And so this was just in public and people were walking around to like not be in the back of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he was sort of like in front of the town hall, building. Right. And to get past, he was blocking the walkway, I say it. Okay. Yeah. And... This doesn't sound like a permitted video shoot. I believe no council consent
Starting point is 01:13:16 was issued. Council permit. It was very casual. It looked, it was a casual crew. I think it was it looked like the first time the man had held a camera. Right. Do you think it was like more of a TikTok video than it was a music video? No, he had a full track, a full hip-hop beat and everything. And he had all sorts of lyrics about a girl. And I just thought if you're singing a love song, like about a girl, beautiful girl, I'm going to ride on my son. You need a girl in the video. Please tell me you do.
Starting point is 01:13:45 So you were like, walk in the back. I diverted not. And I just was like, I'm going to see if I can just casually like walk past and just sort of at the camera. Are you that much and then the rapper's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Guys, we're also recording the video for cringe auntie today. Yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I've been landed a roll in ages. You're so desperate for attention. Yeah, I was like, I'll just see if I can get in the video. Wow. I think, I believe the shot was ruined anyway because then there was like a large moving van kind of backing into the shot. Yeah, probably you don't think your permits, moving van.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Yeah. There was all the security people around the town hall being like, move. Yeah. But I need to find this Kiwi rapper. If you know it. Because then you can check the video. Parkier, he had a big chain on, and big baggy pants, and he was rapping. Maybe you'll make the final cut.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Maybe I will. Sounds like Parapa the rapper from PlayStation fame. I don't know that. You're not familiar with Parapa the rapper? Perrappa the rapper. Parapa the rapper? Who's Parapa the rapper? He's making this up?
Starting point is 01:14:52 No, I'm not making it up. People know. 96, 96. Are you familiar with Parapa the rapper? I don't think Alice has having an in-depth rap knowledge. No, they know per rap of the rapper. Trust me. They're listening right now.
Starting point is 01:15:00 I'll bring back Parapa the rapper. I don't think, not a single message in. supportive. I walked in the background of some girls filming a TikTok video the other day. You've walked in the back of our TikTok. And I said, make sure you tag me. Oh, and you're saying I'm cringe. The ZM Podcast Network play ZM's Flesh, Forne and Haley.
Starting point is 01:15:21 If I live to retirement, to be honest. Live to retirement. There's two aspects to it. If I live that long, great. I'll be poor. I don't know if I can afford to live to then, let alone afford to afford to. to live when I get there. You're actually going to be
Starting point is 01:15:36 in the first draft of the Iran invasion ground force. Nice, sounds like a nice holiday. He hasn't been overseas for a while. Sounds like a nice break. You finally get an overseas holiday and it's to Iran because it's World War III. Well, your dad showed me photos of what it was like
Starting point is 01:15:51 when he because he came through that area on his way to New Zealand. Afghanistan and what is a beautiful part of the world. Yeah. Well, if I live to retirement, I'm looking forward to being a grumpy old man and having nothing to live on it. I don't know. Dude, that's dark.
Starting point is 01:16:06 I think it might be when I get back into more of a social set it, perhaps. Yeah. Don't have to get up super early. Head down. Yeah, don't have to get up super early and that sort of thing. But it turns out that in the UK and as kind of a global trend, even pensioners are partying more than Gen Z. Wow.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Okay. I think they've probably got less to worry about. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not all pensioners. Some pensioners have less to worry about because, you know, they bought houses for two cents and then sold them for two million. And that just makes investment sense. They wanted three mill.
Starting point is 01:16:43 Yeah. So there's a role reversal in the nightlife in the UK. Boomers are increasingly the ones hitting the clubs and bars while Gen Z are staying home or getting different social experiences. Yes. Gen Z is drinking significantly less than boomers. Yes, we know that. Soft clubbing is Gen Z shifting away from alcohol-centered events. opting for quieter partying knowing as soft clubbing, coffee clubs, wellness-focused gatherings,
Starting point is 01:17:08 etc. See, because remember I did mention earlier in the week that I hit at 1.30am. Courtney Place in Wellington on Saturday night just gone. And I would say I definitely felt like the oldest person in the bars, even down the street. It was very much Gen Z. Okay. Which was good. It was good to see it alive.
Starting point is 01:17:32 but I definitely clocked that they weren't as drunk as when I was like 19-20 hitting there and it was just diabolical. I felt like people were having fun but there wasn't that sense of like, man, this is out of hand. They're putting that down to this being the generation that is the most mental health aware and hangover's anxiety and the blues and the come downs from illegal substances. Yeah. It can be seen as unnecessary burdens upon the mental health when, you know, they've got a world falling apart around them.
Starting point is 01:18:02 They've got enough to worry about. Yeah, you're just thinking that they'd be drinking and drugging themselves away to try to tune it out. Yeah. So the boomers are out because my parents are very social. Also, do you know another thing they're putting it down to? What? The fear of something they do while intoxicated being filmed and haunting them forever.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Oh, yes. Because it lives on the internet. Whereas in our Gen Z days, I was tail end. The flip phone and it couldn't take a really good picture, a little on a video. Yeah. I mean, how screwed would they've been a phone? everything we did as teenagers or 20 year olds was filmed.
Starting point is 01:18:36 So screwed. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I was naughty, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that's true. You've got to be a little bit more self-aware of how you hold yourself. Who can afford to go out and drink? Anyone, like, it's insane. That's what I was thinking when I was buying a drink, and I saw these young students there. I was like, how are you guys out?
Starting point is 01:18:54 And the truth was they probably had a few drinks at home, one out. Study link money. That $1,000, cost-related costs. It's not going to last long. It's already much. You have to pay it back as well. Play. Play Z-N.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Fleshhorn and Haley. This is from the New York Times, this question. I'm a subscriber. Ayo. Yeah, and it's not for Wordle. Yeah, I'm sorry. I am. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:19:21 I know. That's why I know all these things to ski you about World War III. Yeah, every day when I get to work, I walk in in Fletcher's watching something and I said, what's the bad news today? And he tells me the latest bad news. And I'm like, cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Cool. So this was a scenario sent in to the New York Times. It was a person who worked on a team of three, right? Okay. This is the person writing in. They had two other people in their team quite new and they were finding it hard to sort of adapt with their new co-workers. They were a bit nasty, a bit kind of mean.
Starting point is 01:19:55 And then they started to get the suspicion that they were actually also sleeping together. They were both married. So they were both having an affair. with each other. Was a suspicion. Now this rider in kept the suspicion to themselves, right? And they were like, no, I'm not going to go there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:10 They end up getting into the job and it all goes well when it's revealed that actually also, these colleagues not only confirmed having an affair, they're also like stealing money from the company. Okay. So then this other person has to inform the company of these dalliances, shall we say, the affair and the affair. The fraud. I love that.
Starting point is 01:20:32 That's a lovely word for a horrible thing, isn't it? Dallions. Dallions. Dallions. Which of course means that they get fired. Yes. But then the team is disbanded and this person then doesn't have a job anymore because the work's like we're just going to absorb this whole thing into another team.
Starting point is 01:20:48 So then they just get, this person just gets absolutely swept up in their workmates' drama when they didn't need to be. And I was like, well, that sucks, doesn't it? Why? And they didn't do anything. In fact, the company owes them because they're the one that blew it apart. blew the whistle. I know. But this is what I wanted to know
Starting point is 01:21:04 from our listeners. When did you find yourself caught in the middle of someone else's mess? Maybe you knew of an affair. This happens a lot when... This happens a lot when, like, I don't know, someone knows about a cheating couple
Starting point is 01:21:16 and everyone's friends. Yeah, and you're like... And what do you do? Like... Yeah, or maybe it's not that. Maybe it was a work mess that you found yourself getting... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:25 How did I get here? A friend group drama? Yeah, why am I sorting this hour? Why am I in the middle of... this. Well, it's because you knew about it. You didn't say anything. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:21:36 Your silence speaks volumes. Okay, well, 0,800M, that's our number. Some people do quite like finding themselves in the middle of other people's mess, though. I was... I don't know how I keep ending up here. I know, like, people that feed off the drama. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:21:51 Well, if that's you, you can also message in. No judgment here. 0800 dials at M, call, text in 9-696. When did you find yourself in the middle of someone else's mess? is a work who ended up losing their job because he worked in a team of three and they were having an affair and also stealing money.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Long story, but that was a mess you didn't want to be in. Someone else's mess. Someone else's mess. Emma, when did you find yourself in? Someone else's mess. Hey, team. So I actually work in New Zealand
Starting point is 01:22:17 remotely for an Australian company. Oh. And they flew me over. They fly me over every now and going. And there was a new lady in account. And I met. I met her in the first day I was like, hmm, something cough about this lady
Starting point is 01:22:32 Oh, okay, I like this And she just had chewing gum She would go to the bathroom all the time And I thought, something going on Yeah And sure enough, I could smell alcohol on her And she had a bottle of champagne In her drawer stuffed with toilet tissue
Starting point is 01:22:53 To try and hide the smell Because once the corks out, it's hard to get corks on. Yeah, but you don't want to lose bubbles too. And you know, I lose the bubbles. I'd get one of those cap things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how I make mine last two days. Yeah. Well, then it turns out one of the lady's champagne bottles went missing from her office.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Oh, no, she's taking her champagne bottle as well. Emma's just like, I'll tell you back to New Zealand. I don't want to deal with the shit. Yeah, I need to go back to my remote workspace. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just turn a blind eye to this. Oh, God, what a nightmare. And so you're in the middle of this drama. What do you do? Well, I let one of my friends know that's at the head office And I said, hey, just keep an eye on her You know, she's got to the bathroom over 10 minutes
Starting point is 01:23:34 No one picked up on this the whole time Until I turned up Yeah, right And sure enough, after I left I got a photo thing to me She's fallen asleep at a desk Oh Oh, that's really sad, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:23:49 It's just sad, isn't it? Yeah So, yeah, she didn't come back after that day No. God, what a mess. That's just really sad, isn't it? But you end up in the middle of it. You didn't ask to have to deal with all of that.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Yeah, do you just tautil back home to New Zealand and get back on your keyboard from home? Exactly. Hell yeah. I did have to have some follow-up meetings because I had the evidence, you know. Yeah, yeah, right. Oh, goodness. Is it wrong if I want to know what kind of champagne? It doesn't feel appropriate.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Well, it must have been a nice champagne. Well, yeah, because one of they were going to give to the clients. Yeah, a mum. A mum. A mum could be a mum. Oh, yeah. Paper hidesicle. Emma, thank you.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Some messages in. Where did you find yourself in the middle of someone else's mess? I used to work for a fairly high profile company where the HR lady was having an affair with one of the workers.
Starting point is 01:24:38 No one said anything because no one wanted to get involved with the mess. Oh. At least they'd know how to fire themselves. Yeah. HR? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:47 You fired right in the mirror. Is it a pre-read situation? It's a pre-read. So my husband and I have a great friend couple who we always hang out with. Recently, the other husbandists that are working in my team. And now I'm in the middle of the husband and wife's venting sessions where they both have a bitch to me about their partner. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:25:06 And each time I have to pretend they're giving me brand new information that I just hadn't heard from the other person. Oh, no, I would hate that. Oh, wow. Tell me more. Yeah. I know. My wife and I recently got married about a month before two of our best friends
Starting point is 01:25:20 broke off their engagement, did not end well, leaving us in the middle to choose as to which one actually got invited to the wedding because we couldn't invite both. The original. Do you think about your friends that are married and together like who you'd choose? Oh no. Okay, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Nope. I got in trouble. Oh no. You can't do this. Jared. Skid and Zane. Let's do it. Skid.
Starting point is 01:25:52 That was the list. then that was just a joke. That was just a joke. That was just a joke. Because he was just a joke. Because he's a doctor. I go Jerry because of the badong. Like a piece single.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Yeah, no, sure he's got a ring on him. But like Jared's like proper pack in. And if they're single, I'm going to shoot my shop. That's true. He's going to get it. He's going to get it. I'll just remain neutral on this one, even though I did start it. Coward.
Starting point is 01:26:16 Coward. I got in trouble with my school three years after I graduated because apparently my brother had used one of my old assignments that he found as a guide to his. I had to come in for a meeting with the principal and to clear my name and I was just like, what are they dragged into this? I know. I've been treated up my
Starting point is 01:26:34 friend. That's not my fault. It's actually got nothing to do with me. He found it. Leave me out of this. Yeah, so people would find themselves right in the middle. My flatmate worked at HR and was having an affair with one of the senior leadership team at a large company. Oh? He would come to her house and use a different
Starting point is 01:26:50 name, but I said it was a real name. They were on a Zoom. one day. Subsequently, I ended up meeting his wife in my line of work. Oh, damn. I was caught right in the middle of it all. The ZM Podcast Network. Play ZM's Fletch, Worn and Haley. You know, at the moment, I don't know if you guys know this because you're a couple of out-of-touch dumbs, but we've got some conflict in the world. I literally just said before, Vaughn, I'm a subscriber to the New York Times.
Starting point is 01:27:17 I know what's happening. Okay, well, you eat your left-wing slot, mate. I think I'll get my news through a more reliable source, TikTok. Yeah, oh, TikTok even, TikTok. Wow. Well, due to the conflict, the ever-escalating conflict in the Middle East with Iran, apparently bunker inquiries in Al-Tiro in New Zealand have doubled. Really?
Starting point is 01:27:41 You know, I've been getting a lot of, in my algorithm, not that I even use reels that much or TikTok, but I've been getting people building bunkers. Yeah. Like they do the... Who's got the money for a bunker? The camera shot. It's container bunkers.
Starting point is 01:27:54 There's so many videos of these. And they dig the hole and they just dig it. It's like a time lapse of the bunker being buried. So you dig underground. You drop your container in and then you make an access way. But do you have to reinforce it? Because otherwise... They come reinforced.
Starting point is 01:28:08 So there's different ones that come like modular. Or they pump them in and they concrete around them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They have to be deep. Because they want them to be hidden as well, which I think is the coolest thing. about it.
Starting point is 01:28:20 They had those secret surprise hidden entrances. You go into a bush and it's in there. Yeah. But my thing is like I'd build a bunker and it'd be like nice and it'd be awesome and, you know, safe. Vintage furniture. But like when the world ends, I might be like, I don't know, in the Bay of Islands, on the beach. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right. And it's like, how do I get to my end of the world bunker in Queensland, you know?
Starting point is 01:28:40 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Or I could just be in Sydney, you know, like. Am I going to miss everything while I'm down there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You need to go in an Airbnb bunker. It's like Airbnb. except you just like, you're around in Queenstown
Starting point is 01:28:52 so you rent out your bunker and you are borrowing a bunker in Funggare. But do they still give you a small breakfast? A small breakfast, yes. Just gave some jams. From the chickens that live also in the bunker. Right. What would you, okay, two things you must have in your bunker.
Starting point is 01:29:08 Go. PlayStation. Water. Yeah. Oh yeah, water. Then you can add to TV. Are we being serious here? Well, this sucks because now you've got a PlayStation and no TV. Dumb choice.
Starting point is 01:29:20 Everyone's going to die of hunger because he can't eat his PlayStation. Wait, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no order of... Are we going basics? Basics are in. You've got your water, your food. Okay. Your ear, your bed.
Starting point is 01:29:32 Lazy river. A lazy river in the bunk. How big is your bunker? Oh, it's massive. It's huge. It's in Queen's Sun, darling. You can literally have the biggest bunk you like. Yeah, indoor pool, lap pole.
Starting point is 01:29:42 I'd have a lap pole. Lepole and an indoor in a lazy river. Wait, would I'd probably gas myself with the chlorine? I'd probably gas myself with the chlorine, right? The chlorine, you have to have a not. Could you have a hot tub in a bunker? No, the humidity. Too hot.
Starting point is 01:29:55 The humidity. Unless you had a shower dome. Over. Shower dome. No muscle, no condensation. For your bunker, shower dome. Bunker dome. And it would need a little extractor fan that pumped to the outside.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Yeah, but that's how the gas and the people would get into your bunker through the air vent. Yeah. Yeah. I'd have a Wi-Fi router. Or is that part of your basis? but internet's ended because the world's, not if you've got a little starlight. I'd have a laptop with a hard drive
Starting point is 01:30:24 full of movies. Oh, that's a good idea. Yeah. Because you won't be able to get Netflix down there, will you? Satisfire pro. Okay. What's yours for? Satisfire pro? Satisfar.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Also a Satisfi pro. Yeah. Well, just in case. Yeah. I'd have to have someone to pass the time. So video games. PlayStation set up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:45 I think the hard drive of content would be the best one. Yeah. Loader. exercise equipment? You can do squats and jumps and lungers and walks and stuff. You don't need weights. That would take up a lot of unnecessary space. Do you push up and stuff?
Starting point is 01:31:00 It's ironic that everybody's searching for these end of the world bunkers in Queenstown, which is literally waiting for the Great Alpine Fault. To open up and swallow their bunker hole, you know? Yeah, yeah. Have they thought about that? They haven't, I don't think. This place is dealing with the bunker inquiries. Say you should always, like, if you're having it at your house or whatever,
Starting point is 01:31:17 have as a dual purpose. I also have as like a... Salar. A wine cellar. A cellar or a root where you put your fruit, vegetables and stuff to keep them a little bit better, a little bit longer, that sort of thing. But...
Starting point is 01:31:31 Okay. The cheapest one they do is 200,000. Oh, okay. Well, I mean, that's cheaper than houses. You've got to get the land now. You have to have the bunker. Yeah, but could you just put it in the local park? Do you need results consent for a bunker?
Starting point is 01:31:43 They can't see the entry. They can't charge you. The Z&M Podcast Network. Producer Carwin, I believe you may have gotten yourself blacklisted from somewhere No, no, no, no, no. She's the bad girl of the show this whole time
Starting point is 01:31:58 We're here we were thinking it was evil, Shannon. Why? Why do you're such a sweetie? It's almost ridiculous to even say it. No, I just had like a semi, actually two semi-runnins with Instagram. As you know, love my account at Carwin Reads. Go follow her. Do you get your nuts out on Instagram again?
Starting point is 01:32:16 No, I did it. Because I'm sick of it. Well, I'm there to get book recommendations. Cohen reads Dem Nips. Dear. I'd be reading Demariolas. Like a fortune. Like a fortune.
Starting point is 01:32:28 No. So I was replying, and honestly, I actually think both of these incidents actually involve Vaughn as well. So. What? Right. I was typing a comment back to someone and I genuinely do think that it was Vaughn because I said something like, oh, stop being a loser or something.
Starting point is 01:32:47 Oh yes. And Instagram said, Hey, hey, hey, you can't be commenting that. I've had that before. And it happened like multiple times and I was like, this is so odd. But then also, yesterday or the day before you might have seen on George's story
Starting point is 01:33:00 that Vaughn took over her phone. And so... I did it. I came into the studio to pick up my stuff. I was like, whose phone is this? And it was hers. And so I walked in into her studio and took 500 photos on the way.
Starting point is 01:33:11 That's punishment. That's the tax. And so she posted a little story and then she posted a screenshot of your pictures. on her story. And she had to go live on as she was typing. So she passed me the phone and said, can you just type this? And I
Starting point is 01:33:23 went to write at Born Anonymous stop it, you stupid loser or something like that. And it would not let me comment it. It would not let me post it with it and it said, this is something. Your comment involves words that have been identified
Starting point is 01:33:39 and reported comments from other users. You cannot comment this. I mean, that's kind of good because some people need to be reminded that they shouldn't be saying that. This is obviously light friend banter. Have you marked any words on your social media that you don't want to hear anymore?
Starting point is 01:33:55 I wrote to Mark Zuckerberg and said, please, everybody's being so mean to me, mate. If I keep saying you're bad at sex. Yeah. He said, I can't remember if your coworkers vocalising the fact they keep saying you're bad at sex, but I can try to help you out on the ground. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:06 Why has 13-year-old Instagram post deleted because I made these chocolate-dipped raspberries or something? I said, these are like crack cocaine. What? And when did they delete it? Like three weeks ago. No. What's so?
Starting point is 01:34:20 It went through old posts. It was encouraging drug. It was encouraging the purchase of drugs or something. But there's just a science. Yeah, I know. Did someone report that? No. And why didn't I get any of these crack raspberry-dipped chocolate?
Starting point is 01:34:32 Where's my crack? One of the photos was you'd gobbin some of them. Oh my God. It was 13 years ago. I must have loved it. You did. You loved it. It was like crack cocaine.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Because I love raspberries. That's so good. Wait, so you got a telling off from Instagram. Going off from Instagram, I don't think it's done anything, but that was both on Georgia's count and on mine. But have they just, like, can they not understand sarcasm? Is AI not good at sarcasm or something? I don't think so, no.
Starting point is 01:34:56 No, I guess not. This is going to be the problem going forward with AI monitoring everything. It doesn't have a sense of humour. Do you know, it's because Georgia doesn't get sarcasm either. No. No. And she's not very good at doing sarcasm. No.
Starting point is 01:35:08 No. Hey, remember how you just gave that Uber driver five stars because you wanted five stars back? Yes. Let's do that. with this podcast. Oh yeah. Review it five stars.
Starting point is 01:35:18 Tell your friends and we'll do the same for you if you ever need a review for anything. But where are you giving me my five stars? Well, I don't know. Do you own a restaurant or something? Yes. If you give us five stars on this podcast, tell us where you would like your review and we'll review. Even where we won't even go. We'll just review your thing.
Starting point is 01:35:34 I don't want people to know where my restaurant is. I'm doing one of those secret restaurants. Oh, I was going to say that's exactly the opposite of how restaurants work. Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley.

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