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The Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley Big Pod.
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Great things are brewing, one cup at a time.
Thank you, Sam. Good morning.
Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.
Thursday morning.
The week is flying.
Let's do this every week.
How do we go about organising that?
Having a three day work week.
Just like, but really packed and fun
and just go hard for three days.
Yeah. Four days off.
I mean, you've convinced me.
What a sales pitch. Let's get this woman
in front of the board. Thank you.
Thank you. Get it happening.
I'm going straight up after the show.
On today's show, we've got more Sam Smith tickets to give away.
You've either got to be a Sam or a Smith.
You've either got to have a Smith in your name or a Sam in your name.
Would we accept a Smythe?
Which is definitely a sort of different spelling.
No, absolutely not.
All right, just want to clarify.
Absolutely not.
So around 8.30 this morning, if you're a Sam or a Smith
or if you've got a friend
that's a Sam or a Smith. What about a
Stephen Myth? Because then he goes
by Smith. I might
actually let that one fly. Stephen Myth.
Yeah. Mr. Myth of Myth.
Myth. Myth, by the
way, not myth as in
like mythical creature. Yeah, yeah. That's a Y
then you're a Smythe. You're basically a Smythe. Well, we can debate it. That's a why, then you're a smite.
You're basically a smite.
Well, we can debate
it.
8.30 this morning if
you want to win
tickets to see Sam
Smith.
The top six is on
the way.
Yes, there's been
some booking issues
with the Great Walks
of Aotearoa.
Beautiful, beautiful
walks.
IT problems.
Yeah, well that's
what happens when
you've got a keyer
on IT.
They just pull all
the keys off their
keyboard and then they can't work out how to do it.
And it's been postponed now.
The booking.
For a while, yeah.
The booking has been postponed.
So I've got the top six walks you can do, you know, to pass the time.
I want to do the Rootburn.
That looks nice.
Yeah, I want to do the Rootburn.
Had some friends do that.
It looks really picturesque.
I haven't seen a single great walk that I haven't been up.
I would like to do that one day.
Yeah.
Do you know what I'd like to do?
The rail
trail bikes. Oh yeah.
In Otago? Yeah, the Otago's
got one. Yeah, I did a little bit.
Where did I start? I can't even remember.
It was so beautiful.
So beautiful. Did you have an e-bike?
Yeah, what am I going to exercise
the whole time? Get a grip? No, I had an e-bike.
Just sat there hooning through the bush.
Yeah, nice. It was really fun. Do you reckon I could just borrow, I had an e-bike. Just sat there hooning through the bush. Yeah, nice.
It was really fun.
Do you reckon I could just borrow a Lime,
like an e-bike from town?
You know, the ones
that you scan your phone and...
Yeah, just take it
from Auckland.
Yeah, and at the end
of the day, like,
it'll run out.
Tap it out,
but no one else
has taken it, have they?
I'll need to charge it.
I'll tell the guy
with the van that picks up
all the bikes
and charges them overnight.
You can hire the e-bikes. Well, I'll have to guy with the van that picks up all the bikes and charges them overnight. You can hire the e-bikes.
Well, I'll have to work out which is cheaper.
Well, the top six is coming up soon on the show.
Next, though.
The Red Cross.
You'll be familiar with the Red Cross.
Yes.
Not the Tongan flag, not the Swiss flag.
The Red Cross.
The other Red Cross on a flag.
It has a very simple request for video gamers.
Okay.
The red cross.
This is the, how do you best describe the red cross?
International.
Rescue organisation.
Aid organisation.
Yeah. Rescue organisation Aid organisation Yeah The Red Cross
A humanitarian organisation
15,000 members and volunteers
Across New Zealand
And New Zealand
Delivers core community services
Such as meals on wheels
Community transport
Refugee services
First aid courses
Oh my pop used to do meals on wheels
Deliver them
Did he?
The Red Cross yeah
Oh he delivered them
Yeah yeah yeah
Did he receive them later in life?
Nope
Too proud Too proud I love this The people who go Cross, yeah. Oh, he delivered them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did he receive them later in life? Nope.
Too proud.
Too proud.
I love this.
The people who go, old people.
My nana was the same.
She'd be like, I'm baking some cakes for some old people.
Yeah. I'd be like, how old are these people?
She was like, in her 80s, she'd be like.
You are an old person.
Some of them are in their late 70s.
I was like, so they're younger than you.
Yeah.
Yeah, but they don't have a kitchen.
Okay.
And then when she got old, you'd be like, do you want me to bring you something?
No.
Like, too proud.
Yeah.
I'll just be like, gimme, gimme, gimme.
But this story comes from the Red Cross overseas.
Yeah, this is International Red Cross, who have teamed up with some popular Twitch streamers,
which is an online service where you can watch other people play video games rather than playing it yourself.
Never really understood it myself.
I never have.
They've teamed up with popular video game players
and have asked other people playing Call of Duty
and other realistic war games not to commit war crimes in-game if possible.
But what else are you going to do in there?
That's part of it, isn't it? Yeah.
I used to do that with Grand Theft Auto as a kid because
I never played it to play it.
I just played it to just drive around and change radio
station to red hot chilli peppers and then murder
people.
That would be like the police coming out and saying
look, if you're playing Grand Theft Auto, please don't
steal the cars.
Please don't do ram raids.
Ram raids, very low end Grand Theft.
Grand Theft Auto 6 comes out soon.
I didn't know.
So Grand Theft Auto 5 came out
and they just kept pumping it with downloadable content.
Yeah.
Just here's another one.
Here's another mission.
Here's another, here's another.
Right.
Grand Theft Auto is coming out soon.
Grand Theft Auto 6.
And people are fizzing for it.
I was like, really?
But it's the same game, isn't it? More or less.
Just driving around Miami, killing people.
Yeah. But I'm just like,
it is, what is it? Is it a
cathartic release of
is it
an event? Otherwise you are going to be
driving and you're going to road rage, but you're like, I know
when I get home, I can
drive a 1967 Barracuda as fast as I want
into the side of a bank.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I used to love just changing the radio stations.
Yeah, was that Vice City?
Do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
I don't know which one it was.
The 80s or the 90s one?
90s.
Yeah, because if you had chilli peppers,
it would have been 90s.
Vice City had a beautiful 80s soundtrack,
but you only had to play for a few hours,
I mean, just like the ordinary radio,
till the songs start repeating endlessly.
They do now, don't they?
And I would pull up the, in game,
I would pull up the radio stations and say,
why are you ruining my favourite song by playing it?
I've already heard that.
Yeah.
You guys have already played this.
Is this the no repeat work day?
You're like, no, you're completely the wrong end of the stick.
But yeah, they say.
So no more war crimes.
For example.
Okay, what are some examples of.
These war crimes.
Don't shoot downed or unresponsive enemies.
Or like, so if they've been.
So if they're like, help.
Or if they've been wounded.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Finish them off.
Or put them out of their misery.
Yeah, exactly.
You're doing them a favour.
They're in pain.
These are the four rules.
Don't shoot downed or unresponsive enemies. No targeting non-violent NPCs. Oh, exactly. You're doing them a favour. They're in pain. These are the four rules. Don't shoot down to unresponsive enemies.
No targeting non-violent NPCs.
Oh, yeah.
So non-playable characters.
So they're just in the background being like, ah!
And you're like...
No, no, no, no.
Get out of my way.
I'm making a ruckus.
Get out of my way.
No targeting civilian buildings.
Oh, yeah.
And use med kits on everyone.
This is a little bit...
It's a bit wishful, isn't it?
It's a game.
Yeah.
Also, you don't get the points until that soldier's dead, right?
So they say, targeting down enemies, for example,
with blank squads in Fortnite, enemies drop to all fours.
They're like...
And your teammate can be like, come here, and you res them.
And they're back in.
Right.
They're saying, don't shoot the ones that are already down
because if you eliminate the other members of the team, they'll all disappear. It're back in. Right. They're saying don't shoot the ones that are already down because if you eliminate the other members of the team,
they'll all disappear.
It's game over.
Right.
But the act of shooting a downed enemy,
they see it as a war crime.
I didn't know that.
If someone sees.
Holy shit.
This is what-
Put the one-way ticket to the Hague.
He has got to defend himself in front of the...
What is it?
The UN?
Well, this is just how Russia's operating at the moment, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you know.
Someone sees.
Someone sees.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, Red Cross.
Okay, well, if you're playing video games...
Don't.
Please stick to the Geneva Convention and don't commit war crimes.
Yeah.
Couldn't agree more.
So,
all ram raids.
The Red Cross
has made it illegal,
well,
for game developers
to use
their
Red Cross
as the international,
like,
medic sign.
Oh,
really?
The Red Cross symbol in the game
is against the Geneva Convention.
Why med kits in the game are red with a white cross rather than a white with a red cross symbol in the game Is against the Geneva Convention Why medkits in the game
Are red with a white cross
Rather than a white with a red cross
Oh okay
Yeah
And even like Among Us
Which was the silly game
With the little characters
Set on a spaceship
Yeah
They got in big trouble
Because they used the red cross version
For a medkit
Oh
Really?
Yeah
Go the other way
Play
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Speaking of Maccas This is I don't know why I do this to myself.
I didn't eat anything this morning and now I'm reading a McDonald's food hack.
And I might open bits.
Because McDonald's themselves actually released this little hack to say,
you've got to get your lips around this one.
Okay.
I have always loved that McDonald's marketing got to get your lips around this one okay uh i've always
loved that mcdonald's um marketing around this one pop it in your mouth yeah yeah get your lips
around it get your lips around this and that's why neither of you work in marketing yeah uh so
it's a simple one you know because usually it's like ask for this and then a steamed this and then a bloody thing and add in a thing.
This is you order the hotcakes.
Yeah.
It's been a while between hotcakes and I'm ready to return.
Hotcakes, cider whipped butter.
Then you've got the hotcake sauce.
Then you order a three pack of chicken McNuggets.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We're making a chicken and waffles.
We're making a chicken and waffles situation.
Oh, okay.
You put the nuggies on.
You get your stack of pancakes.
You put the whipped butter on top.
You put the chicken nuggets on top of that.
You pour the syrup over, and apparently it pops off.
Yeah, that would be like a chicken and waffles.
Yeah.
Like a sweet, savory, because I love a sticky sweet sauce on a fried
nugget. Would you only go three nuggets
or could you go six? I'd go six.
Who's going three? But they're only going three because
it like fits perfectly on the top of the stack.
Oh, okay.
How good is that stack? I'd make two
stacks and have six.
Or I'd have the other nuggets on the bottom of the
tray soaking up the sauce. Oh my god, what if you
went hot cake, three nugget, hot cake, three nugget, hot cake,
butter, syrup?
Good hack.
Take me away.
I wouldn't have thought of this.
That's the mixture of the sweet and savoury because, remember,
people were saying it's great if you do like a McChicken or something
or nuggies and you order the pancake syrup and then you put that on your McChicken. Right, or nuggies, and you order the pancake syrup, and then you put that on your
McChicken, that can also be good.
That's definitely
a hangover
hack, that one.
Oh my god, they said it.
Can I take your order? You're like,
I am somewhat of a chef.
I require the following ingredients from you,
my friend. Yes. Well, someone said
if you want to take it to the next level,
pancakes, butter, nuggies, syrup,
ask them to get a bit of a bloody sundae on top, but ice cream.
Too far.
Too far.
Too far.
Yes.
Too far.
Now, that's hungover, Ray, when you're going,
can I have some chicken McNuggets with ice cream on top?
Twenty past six, next on the show, the top six.
Get the cone. Yeah, get the cone and then put Next on the show, the top six. Get the cone.
Yeah, get the cone and then put it on.
Get the soft serve cone.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Well, because then you're bringing a waffle element to your chicken and waffles.
You're bringing, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A little extra texture, you know what I'm saying?
A little something else.
All right.
Top six.
Next on the show.
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From the self-driving ZM think Tank, this is the top six.
The great walks.
Got a list of them?
I haven't really done many of them.
I've done the Paparoa track down the west coast in the South Island.
Where did the whole thing start to end?
God, no, like 30 minutes of it.
What, like a 30-minute from the car park kind of a day trip?
30 minutes I was filming a TV show and made it look like I completed the whole walk.
Nice.
I just sort of jumped ahead, jumped ahead and got out of there.
We did the Whanganui River a couple of summers ago.
That was incredible.
Yeah.
It was beautiful.
And there wasn't too much walking.
It was paddling.
A lot of paddling.
A lot of paddling.
God, you get that headwind.
Oof.
Jeez, you're paddling.
A lot of paddling.
If you've done the last day of that.
And also, you think the river's going to do all the hard work.
You've seen rivers.
They don't.
The river does.
The river is a beautiful river, but it meanders at times.
And if you've got a headwind, you'll go backwards up the river.
It's a lot of rowing.
Well, the Department of Conservation has admitted it is incredibly frustrated at having to postpone this week's release of tickets for the Great Walks
due to ongoing IT issues.
So it looks like June will be when they're going to get around
to opening bookings for the Kepler Track,
Abel Tasman Coast Track,
the Rootburn Track, Paparoa Track, Tongariro Northern Circuit.
But just before these bookings went on sale yesterday,
they said, look, IT issues.
We've got some problems.
Keep an eye on the website.
Why is it going to take months to fix?
And then last week, a huge demand for the Milford Track tickets.
And that crashed the system.
Everybody wants to do the Milf.
It's a beautiful area.
I don't think we call it the MILF for short
You don't think so?
I don't think so
Do we not?
Nah, not five days on the MILF
Do you not?
Nah
Okay
I won't explain why
Hard gradients on the MILF
Yeah
Yeah
She's demanding
She is a demanding wee MILF
You don't want to break your boots in on the MILF
No
You want them to be comfortable You do Get a good pair of socks If you're demanding wee MILF You don't want to break your boots in on the MILF No You want them to be comfortable
You do
Get a good pair of socks
If you're doing the MILF
Yeah
I think we've had our fun there
So I've got the top six
Grow up
Grow up
Grow up
God's sake
This podcast of yours has got me all horned up
Have you listened to episode two?
I listened to episode two when I was outside
I was mowing some grass I had to stop Yeah At one point and I had to episode two. I listened to episode two when I was outside. I was mowing some grass.
I had to stop.
Yeah.
At one point, and I had to be like, I've known Morgan for not as long as you,
but I've known Morgan for a long time, and Hayley Sproul,
I've known you for a long time, and it made me blush.
I didn't know where to look.
I know.
Same.
It's a lot.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
It's a lot.
Also, I tried to do my home play for episode two,
but Sade refused to take a video of me pretending to furiously play with myself in a lot. Also, I tried to do my home play for episode two, but Sade refused to take a video of me
pretending to furiously play with myself in a tree.
I like that the thought was there.
I just really thought it was a good way to do it a little differently.
What were you going to do with this footage?
Send it to Morgan?
Yeah, send it to you guys and be like,
I've done my homework.
I'm in a tree playing with myself.
All right.
Anyway, top six walks to do in the meantime while you wait for your great walk.
Top six.
Number six, the walk to the shops.
Oh, another walk to the shops?
Yeah.
I mean, it's great if you get some lollies from the dairy.
Or you've earned them.
Yeah, you have.
Or an ice cream.
Yeah.
A little treat.
You've got a bit of a hell of a walk to your shops, though.
Hell of a walk to the shops.
It should be an 8K round trip to the shop.
So I'd definitely do it. Drive to get the ice cream. Yeah. But when you're at the beach, a walk to the shops though. Hell of a walk to the shops. It should be an 8K round trip to the shop. So I'd definitely...
Drive to get the ice cream.
Yeah.
But when you're at the beach,
it's a walk to the shops.
It's always like,
am I going to wear footwear?
And you're like,
nah, I'll go barefoot.
And then you get on the footpath
and you're like,
hot, hot, hot,
I should all watch your handles.
Number five on the list
of the top six walks to do
while waiting for the great walks,
the sea walk,
the crypt walk.
You know that dance
that Snoop Dogg does? Oh yeah. As like a 13 year old you spend ages trying to learn it, you Sea Walk, the Crip Walk. You know that dance that Snoop Dogg does?
Oh, yeah.
As like a 13-year-old
you spend ages trying to learn it,
you're like, it's hard.
Easier said than done.
Yeah.
Easier said than done.
Time to practice your Sea Walk.
Number four on the list
of the top six walks to do
while you wait for the Great Walks.
It's time you walk the walk
after talking the talk.
Yeah.
You've been talking the talk.
Oh, I've been doing
a lot of talking recently.
A lot of talking the talk. Yeah. It's been talking the talk. That's a pretty hard walk. I've been doing a lot of talking recently. A lot of talking the talk.
Yeah.
It's time to walk the walk.
Number three on the list of the top six walks to do while you wait for the great walks,
the moonwalk.
Oh, yeah.
It's the one where it looks like you're going forwards, but you're going backwards, and
then you get to the end, and you grab it, and you go, oh!
I'll say, yeah, ooh-hoo!
Yeah-hoo!
Yeah-hoo!
That was Michael Jackson. Yeah-hoo! Yeah-hooe-hoo. Yeah, ee-hoo. That was Michael Jackson.
Yeah, ee-hoo.
Yeah, ee-hoo.
Yeah, ee-hoo.
That's more like it.
Number two on the list of the top six walks to do in the meantime
while you wait for the great walks, the pretty okay walks.
Oh, yeah.
They're just walks in New Zealand that haven't quite yet reached great status.
Yeah, just okay.
Yeah, they're okay.
They're pretty okay walks.
Yeah.
And number one on the list
Of the top six walks
To do in the meantime
While you wait for the great walks
The walk of shame
Or as I like to call it
The pride parade
Yeah beautiful
Walk home
Claim it back
Yeah
No shame in that
No shame
Put a chain of hickeys on your neck
Yeah
Remember it well
Yeah
Hold on your shoes
Because there's no way in hell
You're putting those back on to walk home
Oh god no
My feet are bruised
And it's wet
It's raining
Yeah
You know
It's always, yeah.
Always raining.
Bit of runny makeup.
Yeah, tired.
Stop him for a pie at the Hataitai Bakery.
Yes.
Oh God, those were the days.
It's time six.
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I actually look forward to this every year.
Uber releases a list of the weirdest things that Kiwis have left in the Uber,
as well as the most forgetful regions in the country.
And I have that hot little list right in front of me.
Lots of stats.
It's hard to get something back if you lose it, eh?
Because you've got to ring the number,
and then they don't put you directly in contact with the driver.
Yeah.
They route the call
and they may answer it
or get back to you.
Yeah, I've left
a couple of things.
I've got them back, I think.
I've lost keys.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe left like a jacket
or something.
Yeah.
They've actually got
the most lost clothing items
which is separate
from the most lost thing
or the weirdest things
is blazers,
caps or hats,
Birkenstocks, jandals and high heels.
High heels make sense, right?
After a big night.
Yeah.
Get in, take those off and then just get it out.
It would be a fee.
Wonder why it hurts so much to walk up the gravel driveway.
Oh, God, what a big night.
Oh, that's an expensive leave though because Birks Birks and Heels aren't cheap, are they?
Yeah.
The most lost medical and beauty items,
diabetes insulin is the number one.
Oh, you need that.
You need that.
Gonna need that.
False teeth was just after that.
Lip balm, hair clip, and wigs.
Wigs?
Drag queen's gotta get home, you know?
Anyway, so here's the,
I'll start with the most forgetful regions.
Okay.
The rate of loss in proportion to rides per region.
Oh, okay.
Let's guess.
Number four.
Number 10.
Oh, I wasn't going to go 10.
I was just going to go straight for the number one.
Do you want to go number one?
Do you want to do five?
I think it's got to be a smaller place because, like, for example,
Auckland would have so many constantly.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
Yeah.
I'll tell you, Auckland's number five.
Okay.
I reckon one might be your Hamilton-sized cities.
Oh, Hamilton, okay.
No, Hamilton's number 10.
Unbelievable.
Well done.
I'm very proud of my hometown.
New Plymouth's number 11.
Do you guys have Uber?
Yeah.
What do you mean do they have it?
Of course they do.
Is it a horse?
A carriage?
It's a horse and cart.
Hey there. Are it a horse? It's a carriage. It's a horse and cart. Hey there.
Are you Jim Bob?
I'm your Uber driver.
I got one of them Harbreds.
It runs on water and grain.
Wow.
Well, I tell you what, when you're down at the end of June for our New Plymouth weekend,
you can walk.
We will be walking.
Yeah, it goes New Plymouth 11, Hamilton, Wellington, Nelson, Napier.
Six is Queenstown.
Five is Auckland.
Four is Christchurch.
Three, Dunedin.
Two, Parmy.
I should have gone Parmy.
Parmy is Hamilton.
The dregs.
Number one, the most forgetful region for leaving things in the back of an Uber is Tauranga.
Old people.
No, they wouldn't.
Would they Uber you?
They wouldn't Uber.
They'd take the courtesy, the RSA's courtesy van.
They'd take the shuttle van.
They'd get the shuttle van to pick them up.
Yeah, I don't know why Tauranga.
That's just the stats.
The top weird and wacky items that New Zealanders have left
in the back of Ubers this year.
This was one ride, a chicken, chocolate, and five medals.
Wait, a hot chook?
A hot chook.
Like a roadster bachelor's handbag.
Yeah.
Some chocolate and five awards, like medals.
Oh, that sounds like someone that's gone to some industry,
you know, like some work function.
Where'd they get the hot chook?
From the function.
Dude, because sometimes those functions start in the day.
You can still go to the supermarket, get a hot chook on the way home.
Just absolutely fingering a hot chook in the back of an Uber.
Yeah, how bad is like a 2pm awards where you might have a couple of drinks with lunch just to loosen up a little bit.
You win.
You blow out.
You emerge from it and you're expecting it to be dark and it's light and you're like,
Oof.
Yeah, get me home.
A cat flap door was left in the back of an Uber this year.
A tattoo machine.
Yeah.
A fishing rod and a fish.
How do you forget your rod?
How do you even get into an Uber with a fish?
Presumably you've just been fishing.
You're getting home and you're like,
boy, that was a great day fishing.
See ya.
Oh, good.
No rod.
No rod.
And that fish I caught.
Lots of single jandalsals All the single jandals
All the single jandals
All the single jandals
How do you do that
With the fall out of a bag
Yeah I guess
It'll fall off your foot
And you get out
With just one jandals
A lot of people
Taking Ubers
Are in a pretty bit of a state
Yeah
A full chilli bin
Okay
On your way to a party I guess
Or on your way back.
Cricket bat, lotto tickets.
Oh.
Finders keepers.
You see somebody won a lotto last night.
Dude, 17 and a half million.
In the cargo.
On the app.
Oh, now stand out like drugs, balls.
17 million.
That's insane.
I would like to buy bluff.
Yes. That's insane I would like to buy Bluff Yes And then
False teeth
And the final one is
A chainsaw
A chainsaw
What are you doing in an Uber
With a chainsaw
And then
You might be Ubering around
Your friends house
To cut down some trees
But you never forget your chainsaw
Because it's got that
You constantly smell chainsaws
When they're in your car
Yeah
The biggest day Last year To lose an item was the 2nd of April 2022.
Now, that was a Saturday.
I'm just going to have a little looky, looky, wookie.
A little looky-loo.
In my calendar.
I keep it very comprehensive.
Was that Easter last year?
April 2nd.
I got my nails done.
April Fool's Day the day before.
Was that the weekend last year? April 2nd. I got my nails done. April Fool's Day the day before.
Was that the weekend last year where we all
could go out?
Like lockdowns
had lifted and that everybody
just had to pass? Maybe. Because it was just
after my 40th in
February that we went into
was that the Omicron lockdown or the Delta?
Delta.
It's horrible even thinking about it. I have no idea. February that we went into, was that the Omicron lockdown or the Delta? Delta. Yeah.
It's horrible even thinking about it.
I have no idea.
There's no kind of real marker of why that would be the day,
but that was the day.
Well, Tauranga, you're the most forgetful in Ubers,
so let's lift your game and see if you can maybe drop a few spots next year.
Yeah, stop falling asleep.
Play.
ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. next year. Yeah, stop falling asleep. Silly Little Pole is if you open a bag of chips, do you A, finish it, or B, save some for later?
Are we imagining that in this scenario, the bag of chips, you're by yourself?
Because if me and Aaron open a bag of chips, I'm lucky if I get a couple.
Oh, the sound of a bag of chips
or any food opening in the lounge
will bring the children.
If you open it, they will come.
Yeah.
I bought a lovely little cheese platter
a little while ago.
And as soon as they opened the crackers,
the children were there.
Yeah. Oh, my God, they opened the crackers, the children were there. Yeah.
Oh, my God.
They're so annoying.
I know.
Eating all my cheese.
Go away.
So I took them to the orphanage and I said, these two children's parents died.
Yeah.
I found them on the street begging.
Yeah.
And that's how now you eat cheese alone.
Yeah.
So much cheese.
Welcome to our life.
Yeah.
I just eat cheese. Yeah. So much cheese. Welcome to our life. Yeah, I just eat cheese.
Yeah.
But also I'm thankful when you open a bag of chips
because I absolutely would demolish the entire thing by myself
and then at the end be filled with regret.
Yeah.
So 58% of people finished it.
42% of people said I'll save some for later.
Oh, wow.
Must think you're better than us.
And also like there'll be a little bit of air that gets in
So the chips will go a little tiny bit softer
Yeah I know
So you've got to have them fresh
You've got to finish them
Yeah
That's one perk says Lisa
Of being an adult
You don't even have to share
Or look at the dumb ass serving size
Well Lisa I think
You kind of do
Because if you're an adult
Like I'm an adult
Your metabolism's slowed down heaps.
And when you're a kid, you could demolish a pack of chips.
Yeah.
But now you do and then you're like, oh, what have I done?
But you do you.
Jodie says, because fatty got to eat, boy.
I'm imagining she voted for just finish the whole thing.
Yeah.
The flavor always gets too much for a whole bag.
No, that's the best thing.
Wouldn't that be nice?
Wouldn't it be nice to be able to stop?
Literally, your body's like, oh, no, it's too much now.
And your brain then goes, okay, well, I'll stop.
Yeah, I'll stop.
I'll save some of these for later.
No, I don't have that capacity.
I wasn't born for that.
Unbelievable.
Alicia says, intend to save some for later,
eat them while distracted, hit the bottom of the bag
and act surprised
every time
yeah
what the hell's
happened here
then you gotta tip
the crumbs in
gotta tip them
into your mouth
and then say something
like god they put
so much air
in these bags
yeah
it was basically
only us
in it
yeah
mostly air
Shay says
if you mean
later being
10 minutes after
I put the clip
on them
and put them away
and then we're like, actually I do feel like
a few more, then yes, I save them for later.
Yeah.
We've got you there on a technicality. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gianna says, people who are able to save half
the bag are the true adults. They have less
joy in their lives, but they are the real grown-ups.
Yes.
So much less joy.
Finish that bag.
Should we get chips?
Should we get breakfast chips?
I guess if we get some breakfast chips.
Well, you know, there's just a vending machine has breakfast chips.
I think 14 is what you punch in if you want breakfast chips.
All right.
Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
There is an influencer called Amelia Goldsmith,
and she decided today was the day.
It was a Wednesday.
She said it was slump day. that she was going to go to the supermarket
and offer to pay for Stranger's groceries.
Oh, but of course film the entire thing.
I'll film it.
Of course.
That's what I don't like.
That's what I don't like.
I hate it.
Yeah.
If you're going to do something nice, just do something nice.
Don't shove your camera in somebody's face.
Don't go up to people who are living rough, homeless.
I know, and buy them a sandwich and be like, I've saved you.
Yeah, or I'd love to take you to get a haircut.
Oh, my God, the haircut?
Yeah.
How about working?
I know.
I just feel so cringy when I watch those.
It's cringy because it's got white saviour.
Written all over it.
All over it. It's like, look at me. I'm gorgeous. I'm popular. I's got white saviour. Written all over it. All over it.
It's like, look at me.
I'm gorgeous.
I'm popular.
I've got my whole life together.
Now I'm going to go help some povos.
And you're like, jeez, girl.
Anyway, it backfired on her.
She's got 116,000 followers.
She took them along to a nearby supermarket hoping to pay for some...
Oh my God, a burp just came out it was because of the egg cut
it was really bad I'm so sorry
IBS it's real
and anyway she gets in the line
and she approaches
one guy who
I don't know
I don't know
I don't know why she chose him
like when you go up to someone
I'd be so insulted if someone did this to me.
I'd be like,
do I look poor?
Why?
What gave it away?
Because I usually do it because you're in bare feet.
Yeah, I'm always wearing
like paint covered
like weird shorts
and definitely pyjamas.
Bare feet with maybe
maybe a sock on.
Yeah.
I look rough.
I'm going to write
I'm going to fill my own groceries.
She really hides
her private school girl so well.
Oh my God.
It's a constant struggle.
It just came out then.
It's so hard every day to...
This is one of the classes that you do at private school.
Is it?
There's two classes.
You can choose if you want to hide your private school
or really rub it in people's faces.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The rub it in people's faces is really easy.
You just keep wearing your Leavers jerseys
year after year.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
No, I went for the hide.
So yeah, she asked someone
and he's like,
no, no, no, no,
I really, I don't need it.
And then she's like,
oh, and then she was like,
oh my God,
he seemed angry at me.
And then she tried another one
with a flustered woman
who was just like,
no, just really uncomfortable
with it.
And then she said,
oh, I was feeling
so embarrassed and judged. And then she becomes a bit visibly it. And then she said, oh, I was feeling so embarrassed and judged.
And then she becomes a bit, you know, visibly upset.
And then on a third try, a woman's like, honey,
there's like a lot more deserving people in the world that need help than me.
Right now I can pay for my own groceries.
Thank you.
And then she feels herself crying.
She's crying because she's so stressed about the situation.
No one took a charitable act.
Right.
Yeah, she's crying.
But, I mean, good for her.
She's got good intentions, I think.
And it is a trend, but.
Go and do it on your own time and don't film it.
Just help someone.
I mean, no.
Like, you don't need to tell the world about it.
The shoving the camera in the people's faces is the thing that gets me.
Yeah, when they're just out trying to live their life.
You're not doing it selflessly.
You're doing it so you've got
content. You're getting something out of it
that you're likely to make more money off
with that many followers if you
get a whole bunch of views than you spent
making it. It's disingenuous.
Do you remember the chick, I think she's in jail, who
did all this content
helping a homeless man into a home, got a
public fundraising thing going for him
earned hundreds of thousands of dollars
and it was her mate and she just took the money.
The guy was
a homeless dude and then
everyone was like, oh my god, let's help this man
get back on his feet.
Anyway, I wanted to know when
doing something nice
backfired on you?
You tried to do something nice for someone. You know what, I'm going to really go out of my way for someone and it just absolutely backfired on you. You tried to do something nice for someone.
Maybe you were just like, you know what,
I'm going to really go out of my way for someone
and it just absolutely backfired,
like it has for this influencer.
Maybe you offered to pay for someone's groceries in the mine.
Maybe you have done that.
And they were, like, really offended.
Yeah.
Yeah, but you weren't shoving a camera in the face.
No, no, no.
You weren't being influencer kind.
No.
You were literally just being kind, kind,
and it didn't go down well.
You just stopped to help someone who'd fallen over or something. Yeah, or it's like buying a friend a gym membership. being influencer kind. No. You were literally just being kind, kind and it didn't go down well. You helped to,
you just stopped to help
someone had fallen over
or something?
Yeah, or it's like
buying a friend
a gym membership.
Nobody's done that.
You don't do that.
You don't do that.
Yeah.
There was a lady
struggling with her groceries
in the supermarket car park
and it was winter
so I had a hoodie on
and a beanie
and a big beard.
Oh yeah, you look pointless. And I was like
do you need a hand? She's like, do I look like I need
a hand? I was like, yes.
That's why I came over.
Wow, but so you went
to offer to help and she was just like, no.
Yeah, she wasn't having it. She might have been having a bad
day. I was like, okay, bye. And I just walked away.
Well, it's hard to read the feminist agenda these
days as well. You open a door for a woman, she's
absolutely insulted.
Yeah.
But then I pick her up and carry her through the door.
And then she's like, oh my God, my handsome pram.
Yeah, and then I give her a little smack on the ass
and send her on her way.
And she's like, I'm laying charges.
Yeah.
So it's a real rollercoaster.
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When did you do something nice for someone
and it backfired?
You tried to help someone.
We are wanting to know
when doing an act of kindness
or a good thing
or trying to be nice to someone
absolutely backfired on you.
There's a social media person
who was trying to
just for no personal gain
pay for people's groceries on TikTok.
I mean she was filming it for her social media channel.
Oh, but that's just because she films her whole life.
That just happened to be what she was doing on that day.
Of course.
And no one wanted to accept it.
Made her feel bad about it.
So when has being nice backfired?
Jessie, what happened?
Oh, so I was at the supermarket one time
and I was just standing in line.
The lady in front of me was buying like diapers and stuff for her kids
and she was like $5 short.
And it wasn't her that had the issue.
I was just like, just chuck it on mine and then you can go.
Like, it's all good.
It was the person behind us that started being like,
well, if you can't afford it, you shouldn't be having kids.
Oh, no, no, no.
Oh, my God.
So you're just trying to be nice.
But out, Pam.
Yeah.
You're just trying to be nice and then you start this big argument.
Did you say anything to the woman behind?
I was like, how is it your business for one?
And like, I was just shocked.
I was like, what the hell is going on?
How was the mum reacting to this bloody comment?
Well, she looked real embarrassed.
I was just like, just go.
It's nothing to do with her
anyway. But yeah, I was just shocked
that someone was like that. Also, you're
$5 short.
That could just be...
Well, if you can't afford it.
There are a million reasons
why you could be $5 short on something.
Oh, my God.
I more just wanted to get out of line.
So I was like, you're stuck on time.
I'm like that sometimes when people, like, something declines.
I'm like, if I just swipe this, you'll go away.
Yeah.
You know, like, it's not about if they need it.
It's just like, hurry up.
Well, Jessie.
That's Fletch's idea of kindness.
Get out of my way.
Jessie, were you filming
this incident?
Yeah, it was crazy.
Did you film it when you were doing
this charitable act? Oh, no. I never
filmed anything.
Thank you.
Although, flicking around, turning
around and having a phone recording while that woman
was like, you shouldn't be having children.
Oh, that would have been...
Jessie, thankscha, man.
Jessie, thanks.
You're cool.
Message is in.
A guy was a couple of buckaroos short at the grocery store in front of me.
I said, here you go, mate.
Mondays are tough.
And then I noticed he had a very flushed face
and a red nose
and he was purchasing cask wine at 10.30am.
I was like,
have I done the right thing?
She thinks Mondays are tough for her.
Somebody asked me if I had any money for food.
I said, yeah, man, of course, times are tough.
And I gave them 20 bucks.
And he didn't even wait for me to leave.
He walked straight across to the TAB with it.
I was like, wait, food.
Hey, that's reinvesting.
Yeah, maybe that's...
We don't know.
He could have turned that 20 into 100.
No.
It was raining.
I offered an old lady a share of my umbrella.
I said, it's raining.
Would you like to share my umbrella?
And she said, no, leave me alone.
And I was like, ugh.
But then she...
It was hard to walk past her.
I had to really walk fast to get around her.
Oh, that's horrible.
Yeah.
A beggar along New Lynn asked for money.
I said, I don't have money, but I do have some freshly cooked Chinese noodles.
And he said, I can't eat your people's food.
Oh!
What?
Oh, my God.
My mother-in-law bought somebody a filled roll once.
They were outside the shop we went in, and she was like, oh, here, and gave them a filled roll,. They were outside the shop we went in and she was like,
oh, here, and gave them a filled roll.
And they were like, oh, chicken, no thanks.
Oh, my God.
It was so good.
You can be homeless and vegetarian.
I was like, I'll have that.
I'll have two filled rolls.
Rachel, when were you trying to be nice and it backfired?
Yeah.
I had just done my first aid certificate
and when you finish it,
they're like,
make sure if you're in the community,
make sure you help people out
if they look like they're in distress.
And I'd just been at the supermarket
and had seen this old guy at the end,
like on the side of the road,
doing all these weird actions.
He was kind of grabbing his head
like he looked like he was in pain.
And I was like,
should I stop?
And so I turned around and went back and was like,
sir, do you need some help?
I can help you.
And he looked at me confused and was just like,
I'm just doing like my morning exercises
and continued stretching his arm and grabbing his head.
Oh, you thought he was having a stroke, didn't you?
I thought he was having a stroke.
But in that ad, you know,
they're like which people are sitting in this ad
is having a heart attack.
Oh, yeah, I didn't pick the right one.
And the guy in the background does look just like,
well, the one that's clutching their chest, like, ah!
It's real overacting.
There's a person in the background that you've got to worry about.
Thanks, you call Rachel.
Some more messages?
I got a call at 3 a.m. from flatmates who needed to be picked up.
They had no money because they'd driven.
They didn't intend to drive.
And I thought, oh, rather than them driving intoxicated,
I'll go pick them up.
Wednesday, 3 a.m.
Got pulled over.
Doing 75 in a 50.
Got fined for no registration.
And also speeding.
A little bit on you.
A little bit on you.
A little bit on you.
For speeding.
But it wouldn't happen
if you weren't doing something kind.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Someone was asking for food money outside a dairy,
and I was like, shit, you know, sure.
Gave them some money, and they followed me into the dairy.
I was like, oh, this will be nice.
I'll be able to see what they're buying.
They bought a vape with it.
That's good, you know?
Yeah.
It's not good.
Better than a pack of durries?
Yeah.
Is it?
As far as we know.
At the moment?
To the research done so far.
Somebody, someone who's outside a fruit and veg shop
with a sign saying, need money for food.
I said to him, I'm going in.
What would you like?
Like food wise, I'll just buy something, give it to you.
And he's like, ooh ooh if you're gonna get
chocolate milk
it's gotta be primo
I was like
give it a brand
fruit and veg
you need a couple
of heads of broccoli
oh yeah right
no you gotta get
a nippies
not broccoli
you gotta get
banana nippies
no chocolate nippies
if you're getting
a chocolate
he wanted chocolate primo
no you go chocolate nippies
if you're going
chocolate milk
you gotta go nippies but nippies doesn chocolate milk, you've got to go nippies.
Nippies is number one.
But nippies doesn't do a banana.
Should we do flavoured milks for Friday rankings tomorrow?
I think we should.
Great idea.
Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.
Play ZM's.
TV villains don't use iPhones.
And movie villains?
Movie villains.
They use little ones, don't they?
The little mini ones.
You know, the size of like an old 50-cent coin.
Or their shoe as a phone.
Yes.
Their shoe as a phone.
Old spy shows where shoes were phones
and it seemed like ridiculous,
but now they're even easier to carry around.
Yeah, they don't use iPhones.
So it's like this way of people saying you can work out
if someone's going to be the villain or not
because they won't be using an iPhone.
Right.
Because Apple won't let you have what villains
or any bad characters associated with their product.
Oh, so they've actually made like a standard, a rule.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Because they say, well, it's never been said bad guys can't use phones.
The official guidelines say an Apple product should be only shown in the best light.
So not by a crim.
It also asks that references to Apple don't create a sense of endorsement or sponsorship.
Because what, you know when you see a TV show and they've got a laptop and it's obviously a MacBook.
Yeah.
But it's got a different sticker on it.
But it's got a sticker on it covering the Apple logo.
It's like, do they just not want to have to pay Apple or...
But it's so obvious.
It's a silver MacBook.
But then how...
You can't make a product that the whole world uses
and then be like, well, don't put that on a TV show or a movie.
Can you do that?
I don't know.
No, but you can.
If you own the product, it's your rights.
But then it's like when people go, oh, just Google something
and they're on a TV show or a movie and then they open up
Ask Jeeves or some
crappy Google. It's called like
Gramble. Yeah.
Because what was
social media when that was supposed to be
Facebook? Wasn't it called? Just use Facebook.
Book, page, my
page.
My page.
How embarrassing.
I know what you mean though because you're like, we're not buying it for a second.
In fact, it takes you out of the reality of the world because you're like, MyPage doesn't exist.
But this has kind of read its head because it's been kind of a theory for a while that villains don't use iPhones because of the latest season of Succession.
Yeah, right.
They're looking at what characters.
Everybody's a villain on Succession.
That's the whole thing, isn't it?
Every episode at the end, I'm like, no, they were likeable.
And then the next episode, it's like, no, that's right.
No one on the show is likeable.
It's such a good show.
It's on fire.
Horrible people.
I usually sort of detect which one's the villain
by the one who's twiddling his moustache and going,
ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
And walking backwards into the shadows.
That, for me, is a bit of a giveaway,
but I'll also look out for the iPhone.
The iPhone thing. It's going to ruin it now, isn't it?
Ryan Johnson, the director who did Knives Out,
he said he just doesn't...
Put phones.
Just doesn't have anybody have iPhones.
On a phone.
No, people have been on phones.
But just no iPhones at all.
He just doesn't use iPhones.
Alcatels.
Yeah.
Alcatel one touch.
DB one touch.
Yeah, beautiful.
With a charging cradle.
Yep.
Charging cradle.
The villains aren't allowed
the yellow ones
or the orange ones
because those are the cool colours.
Those are too cool.
Yeah.
That and the dark green one
or the blue one.
Yep.
Or purple.
Play.
ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley.
Our lovely neighbour. God, the things we chat about. Our lovely neighbour God the things we chat about
Our lovely neighbour
Had us over for dinner
And we just had casual drinks
And nibbles
I bought a guac
Oh yeah
And some corn chips
And some cheese and crackers
Walk me through your guac
Onion, tomato, coriander, chillies
Well avocado is the primary ingredient
Of course Yeah you gotta go Chop up the red onion Tomato, coriander, chillies. Well, avocado is the primary ingredient.
Of course.
Yeah, you've got to go chop up the red onion, chop up the tomatoes.
Seeds or?
Yeah, seeds.
Get the seeds in.
I even put in a bit of red capsicum, a bit of crunch, lots of coriander,
salt, pepper, lime, chilli.
Okay, good.
Yeah, that's a good guac.
It's a good guac.
Yeah.
Anyways, we got there and he had some nibbles of his own out,
a bit of this, a bit of that.
Great cook.
And he had a quiche or a quiche. Oh, okay.
I'm not quite sure how to.
I say quiche.
Quiche.
He had a beautiful eggy quiche.
And being somewhat of a cook, he had made the pastry himself.
Like it was like from scratch.
This is a flex, isn't it?
Invite people around.
Yeah, he's a good cook.
And he said, try the quiche.
And I was like,
no one ever say no to a quiche.
You know me.
Quiche.
Sorry, I beg your pardon.
I don't know why I've learnt it wrong.
Quiche.
Yeah, I would like to call it.
A quiche?
Yeah.
Quiche.
And I had a little try and I was like,
hmm, this is really nice Cuishe.
And he was like, that is the Coronation Cuishe.
Wow.
Now, if you missed it,
every monarch chooses a sort of signature meal
that people are supposed to cook during the Coronation
and they all enjoy it.
Like Coronation chicken was the Queen's.
Mine would be nachos.
Yeah, I'd go beef nachos.
Beef nachos.
Yeah, for sure.
Because I'm a man of the people.
Yeah.
And the idea of all people at home watching Coronation eating nachos.
But you won't do mince tacos.
No.
Mince tacos are trash.
Mince tacos are trash.
But mince tacos are just deconstructed hard shell mince tacos.
It runs out of the taco.
Yeah, no.
No, no, no. There's no place for mince in. It runs out of the taco. Yeah, no. No, no, no.
There's no place for mince in tacos.
This is a flawed argument.
A pulled beef.
Yeah, a pulled beef.
Now that belongs to the taco.
It's got a pulled beef, also a pulled beef nachos.
Yeah.
Yeah, good.
Yeah.
But no, no, I'm just saying this is a flawed argument
because you don't eat hard-shelled tacos
and you don't eat mince tacos,
yet you'll eat a smashed up one served as
nachos.
Yeah, because that's nachos.
That's more controlable.
No, you've got to go with soft shell tacos.
Get on board the mince tacos.
No.
No.
So anyway, I was eating the King's quiche, which originally I said was like, how boring.
Yeah.
It's eggs, cream, a tiny bit of cheese.
It was like 100 grams of cheese for the quiche.
It wasn't much.
The pastry and spinach and broad beans.
And I was like, where the ham at?
Where the onions at?
Yeah.
But having tried it.
Where your ham at?
Where your ham at?
Where your ham at?
Yeah.
Where's your ham at? Where's your ham at? Where's your ham at? Yeah. Where's your ham at?
Where's your ham at?
Where's your ham at?
Where the ham at?
Yeah.
I even said this to resident vegetarian producer Carween
that I tried the quiche.
And I said that it was lacking in ham.
And she agrees and you don't even eat ham.
Yeah, look, it doesn't sound great.
You know that a quiche needs ham.
It does.
It needs some kind of meaty.
It's a core ingredient of a quiche.
Look, it was really nice.
Like, he'd done a good job.
But I think if the average person who wasn't such a good cook.
Yeah, had done it.
Makes a spinach broad bean quiche with, you know, store-bought pastry and overcooked eggs.
I just think he could have had a more original recipe in mind, you know?
Can you put up my auxiliary feed?
I know what you're about to do.
Oh, God, here we go.
Where's your ham at?
Don't let the quiche cave in on you.
You eat the quiche, that's what you must do.
Where's your ham at?
Not enough cheese.
This is a song for the king.
Where your ham at?
Where your ham at?
Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
There is a woman called Colleen Slaggin.
And she's in the UK,
and she has provided a service on TikTok.
Well, that's how she promotes her service.
She is a baby name expert, and you can pay her to help you
come up with great names for your baby.
I'd expect a lot.
See, it's quite a lot.
So, like, $300 will give you
a list of
eight baby names.
You can literally, though, you can Google baby
name lists.
There are sites with like
A to Z of like thousands
of names. I know, but what she does is she'll go
like, you can go to her and say, I want something
that's kind of musical. And then she'll
be like, Allegro, Forte, Piano Keys, Guitar.
Yamaha.
Yeah, Yamaha, Fender.
And then she'll just basically, you can ask the kind of vibe you're looking for.
I want something sort of Shakespearean or something from English literature or something.
And she compiles a list for you that kind of narrows it down.
Right.
And takes into account the surname of the baby and how it's going to kind of all roll
together.
So all for like $300.
And she makes a living out of this.
Makes a lot of money out of it.
She also makes some baby name predictions, like what the trends are going to be.
For 2023, she believes the trends will be vintage names coming back,
such as Mallory or Eloise.
Oh, yeah.
More sort of old-fashioned names.
Ethel.
Beryl.
Ethel.
Phyllis.
Eloise is very nice.
What a lovely name.
Yeah.
Is it French?
I think so.
It always makes me feel like you're saying
hello to wheeze
in a Cockney accent.
Eloise.
So I say I go to the toilet
and I look down and I go
Eloise.
E-L-O-I-S-E
is how I would spell Eloise.
Yeah, Eloise.
Eloise.
Yeah.
Oh, it's German.
Oh.
German?
Oh, darn.
Oh no, that's,
yeah, look, I don't know.
She also believes
that surnames
are being used as first names such as Sutton, Miller or Brooke. Oh, Brooke. Oh, no, that's, yeah, look, I don't know. She also believes that surnames are being used as first names,
such as Sutton, Miller, or Brooke.
Oh, Brooke's been around for a while.
Oh, yeah, Eloise is the English version of the French name.
I like a surname as a first name.
Yeah.
Well, names that can be shortened to nicknames
that they'll most predominantly go by,
like August to Orgy.
They're done.
You do an Augie.
Done.
Or a Gus.
That's what we, we, Indiana's, Indy's name's Indiana.
Yeah, Indy and Augie.
Auto nickname.
Yeah.
Because it takes, if you give them an auto nickname, it takes out the need for people
to give them a further nickname.
I still think you should have continued naming your kids after states in America and gone
with Mississippi.
Mississippi. Mississippi. You should have called her Sippy after states in America and gone with Mississippi Mississippi
Mississippi
You should have called her Sippy. I wanted to call her Dakota
Oh yeah, that's nice. Then there's
two US states. Yeah
Yeah, Dakota and Indiana
Washington. Yeah, Washington. Nebraska
Nebraska. Yeah.
A boy and call him Montana. Yeah
Monty. She also thinks
gender neutral names. Like Sam. Yeah. Monty. She also thinks gender neutral names.
Like Sam.
It could be anything.
Freddie.
I like Freddie for a girl.
Yeah.
Names that can be Frankie, Freddie, Sam.
But yeah.
Craig for a girl.
Yeah.
I'm going to name my daughter after my father.
After your dad.
Yeah. And my son, Patsy.
Yes.
Yeah.
Little beautiful Patsy.
Beautiful boy. Great nature. Come my son Patsy Yes Yeah Little beautiful Patsy Beautiful boy Great nature
Come here Patsy
Ever been crammed
Into a school hall
Where it's just got
Tiled floors
And hard walls
And that roof
That's got dots in it
And when you're really
Bored in assembly
You look up
And you try to count the dots
But you always lose count
Because you kind of
Magic eye it And you lose focus On where you are count the dots, but you always lose count because you kind of magic eye it and you lose
focus on where you are with the dots.
We had wood floors. You had wood floors?
Tile floors.
Nah, we probably had wood floors too.
I think you're thinking of Lionel Hon.
Yeah, I think ours were Rimu.
Our school was built in the
1930s, my high school, so it probably would have been
beautiful native timbers.
But they have seen some rock quests and some show quests terrible sound quality of that room no mix nah no mix nah
the rock quest ladies and gentlemen is an age-old new zealand tradition so this article that you
found what 36 years 36 years that's incredible 36 years. Glenn, who's been there forever.
Forever.
Yep.
Yep.
I think I did host at Rockquests in like 2004, 2005, 2006.
Yep.
And yeah, they're legendary.
It's a legendary right of high school musicians.
A lot of New Zealand bands have come from Rockquests.
All of them.
All of them.
And if they weren't, they were involved in some way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All my friends did it.
And I used to always go along, especially my emo days.
My brother did it.
They won the Wellington Rockwest.
You never got it.
I thought you would have been absolute crime demo.
No, but because I played classical piano, not the violin.
No, but that was where you could have worked that into some.
Evanescence.
Some evanescence.
Yeah, I know.
It's a missed opportunity.
The year that my mates were in it was
1999 and you might remember a little
phase called New
Metal. Oh, hell yeah.
And this is what we want to talk about because
I laughed. I was immediately taken back
to high school when I was reading this article
about Rockwest because the
best part about Rockwestist was the band.
I was going to say stupid band names.
The band names.
The classic.
The classic band names.
So my mates were in a band called Niedermeyer
and it was German for nightmare.
Niedermeyer.
So you already know what Niedermeyer were doing.
They were screaming.
I love that.
Heavy guitars and all looking down.
It was just chaos. and heavy guitars and all looking down and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
It was just chaos.
My brother's band was The Red Carpet Murder.
That was one.
Then This City Sunrise.
My friends were Whispers for Warnings.
They were metal.
Whispers for Warnings!
Yep, shout out to Whispers for Warnings.
Wait, what was your brother's second one called?
Oh, that was the band they had for years,
This City Sunrise.
Feels like a Motion City soundtrack.
It does.
It feels like a real 2000s.
Well, they changed the name in the end.
I wasn't saying who's copying, but that's the kind of music I hear when I hear that name.
That's who I'm hearing.
Owls.
No, a bit heavier.
A bit heavier.
Yeah.
Oh, they all sound like band generator web names, don't they?
It's so good.
It's so good.
It's so good.
And this is what we want to ask you now on the show. What would our band be called? sound like band generator web names. It's so good. It's so good. It's so good.
And this is what we want to ask you now on the show.
What would our band be called?
I don't... Oh, I'm on AI right now.
Shall I ask it to generate a band name for us?
Yes.
What are you doing on AI this morning?
Are we not good chat?
I can't stop playing with it.
I think he's doing his nerd Dungeons and Dragons stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, if you really want to know,
I'm designing homebrew Dungeons and Dragons weapons using AI,
and it's so much fun.
Oh, God.
Can you please generate a band name for me and my friends' band?
Okay, you need to tell us a little bit about the band.
Okay, it's 2000s punk pop.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we're all in our...
We play 2000s punk pop.
And we're all in our late 30s, early 40s.
We're all in our late 30s and 40s.
Yeah.
Okay, here we go.
What does AI say about the band?
Sure, here are 10 band suggestions
for your 2000s Pomp pop band
Okay
Okay
One
The midlife crisis brigade
No see it's concentrating
On our age too much
Yeah
Take out the age
And say we all work in radio
Less about
Our age
Midlife
Yeah
God I got ladied
On the weekend
And now I'm getting
An AI telling me
I'm in my midlife
I apologise for making
An assumption about your age.
Here's 10 additional
band names.
Thank you.
Neon Riot,
Heart and Overdrive,
High Voltage Heroes,
Breakway Brigade,
Out of Control,
Ignition Drive,
Laser,
Lightning Strike Lovers.
That's us.
We're the Lightning Strike Lovers.
Yes.
Okay.
See, those are all band names
you could imagine
at Rock Quest.
100%
100%
Quick whip around the producers booth
who you guys have got big Rockquest energy by the way.
You all look like you would have supported a Rockquest band
when you were in high school.
What were your Rockquest bands at school called?
I didn't have one.
Get out of the way then.
Generally, I was in the music video for Cherry Blind
who won in 2017. Oh wow, they won. Get out of the way then. Generally, I was in the music video for Cherry Blind,
who won in 2017.
Oh, wow, they won.
Yeah, they got to play on radio stations all across the country.
Really?
You know, Fletch would have deleted that.
Fletch would have 100% deleted that. I'd delete the rubbish ones.
You would have shuffled that along.
You would have been like, no, we definitely don't have time for that.
Yeah, we don't have time.
We've run out of time.
Jared, at your pristine Auckland North Shore based private school.
Private school.
Ours was called Please Signal Driver.
Please Signal Driver.
Guys, I was on the bus home last night.
No, they didn't take the bus home.
Oh, yeah, of course.
It was ironic.
It was ironic.
It was ironic.
Have you heard about the button on the bus?
Please Signal Driver.
This is what we want to ask you now.
What were the Rock Quest bad names at your high school?
And we had to celebrate them.
Yeah, the ones that you were in or the ones that you supported,
how good were they?
Oh, my God.
Let us know.
I'm having fun.
I'm going to tell you what.
I'm having genuine fun.
It's great.
This is so, it's making me feel warm in my heart.
We're talking about the Rock Quest.
36 years old, smoke-free
Rock Quest. Yeah, it's the new season.
It's on soon. It's on, baby.
Yeah, George is hosting a lot
of these around the country. If you haven't heard
of it, it's a high school band competition
that's nationwide. Basically, your school
goes to a regional
part, and then if you get through the regionals,
you go to a next level, and then there's like the finals.
And it's massive.
Some big New Zealand names have done this over the years.
Yeah, I just jumped on the Smoke Rock Free Fire Smoke Quest.
It's all about smoking, but no rock.
No rock and roll.
It's just jazz and cigarettes.
No, on the website and then in the history.
So in 1990 at the National Final was a band called Defunct Express,
which was with Jason Kerrison.
They went on to form Op Shop.
Anika Moore was in the National Final in 1989.
We all know how, you know, that went after that.
Not 1989. We all know how you know, that went after that. Not 1989.
Anika Moore. As part of the first
1989 National Final,
Anika Moore performed.
Anika Moore's not 10 years
older than me. Surely that's wrong.
How old is Anika Moore?
Sorry, Anika, that we're doing this to you.
I mean, she's 42.
Yeah, she's my age. How is she in 1989
as a 7-year-old performing? Yeah, well, maybe they've got that wrong. They've She's 42. Yeah, she's my age. How is she in 1989 as a seven-year-old performing?
Yeah, well, maybe they've got that wrong.
They've got that wrong.
But anyway, she's done it.
Auntie Beatrice, which was formed by Bradley Lawton
and Frances Cora, who then went on to form Cora.
Yeah.
Julia Deans.
It's the Shortland Street of Music.
Yeah.
You've got to go through Rockwest.
Yeah.
Bick Runger did that.
I remember these.
Yeah, Goodnight Nurse did it.
I remember this from reading out my list of previous accomplishments.
You've hosted a few.
So we are talking about the Rock Quest band names of your school days.
Yeah.
Because there are some great names.
Oh, my God, so good.
Sheep Slaughter and the likes.
Yeah.
Ballpoint Penis.
We won our original Rock Quest, but we deducted points for the name.
So we weren't allowed to win.
Ballpoint penis.
Ballpoint penis.
Our band name was the Atomic Pussycats,
but it wasn't Pussycats when we joined.
We were made to add something.
Yeah, so right.
So they added the atomic.
Okay.
Emma, Emma, was this your band?
Yes, it was.
No, no, no.
Our band was called Barry.
Barry.
Barry.
Barry. Why? Yeah, no, no. Our band was called Barry. Barry. Barry. Barry.
Why?
Yeah, 2003, mate.
That's where it was at.
What kind of music did Barry play?
Kind of sad, depressed.
Yeah, depressed.
We were entering that era, weren't we?
We were.
We were, yeah.
A bit Avril Lavigne-y, you know, but not so screamy.
Is Barry doing a 20-year reunion this year? We were, we were, yeah. A bit Avril Lavigne-y, you know, but not so screamy.
Is Barry doing a 20-year reunion this year?
Oh, look, we'll think about it, you know.
I've got a wedding.
I'm the most open wedding singer these days.
Yeah, I'm glad we actually are.
Oh, there you go.
Get back together.
Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the stage. No, we're not.
No, we're not still together.
No, no, no.
We're saying you've got to get back together.
Oh, yes, we do.
We do.
Yeah, I think Libby would love that if she's listening in Wellington.
Send us one of your singles and we'll put her on here.
No, I don't want to, Barry.
Oh, my God, no.
How depressing.
How depressing.
How wonderful, Barry.
I don't want to go back to that girl ever again.
Yes, that girl rules.
She's cool.
Emma, thanks for your call.
More messages in.
My cousin's heavy metal band in Rockwest was called Looking for Bigfoot.
Our band name was Anonymous Hippopotamus.
That rolls off the tongue.
That's nice.
That's cool.
Headlock Grave.
Welcome to the stage.
Headlock Grave.
What else have we got?
The Fortune Cookies.
Yep.
That's cute.
My brother's band name was Cat Rash.
Oh, Cat Rash.
We were DV8.
Good old Dargaville High.
Yeah, great.
Handsome Jeffrey.
I remember Handsome Jeffrey.
That had Adam Coddington and another New Zealand artist.
Oh, there you go.
Oh, yeah.
They won.
They were from Hamilton Girls High.
Oh, yeah.
Tauranga Rock Quest circa 2003.
All the girls had a big crush on the main singer of Blank Space.
Oh, you're Blank Space.
Also the first place I hooked up.
That's the thing at the Rock Quest.
Guys, remember, smoking's no good.
And you two pashing.
Oh, I can't stop you.
It's not the Pash-free request.
Stinkfish when we were 12.
There's a band called Bleeding Spleen in the Florist.
Bleeding Spleen in the Florist.
I don't know.
Back in high school, me and my friends had a band called Nocturnal.
Yeah, that's gothy.
Oh, my God.
My friend's band was called the Hoppawattie Experience.
Now, that is a historic rugby league reference involving a finger and a bum.
Now, you should have been caught.
Dude, Hoppawattie, it was like a real thing back in high school.
Yeah.
You got Hoppawattied.
That's not good at all.
Hoppawattie Experience. The band that won my sixth form year were famous at our school. They. You got hoppawattied. That's not good at all. Hoppawattied.
The band that won
my sixth form year
were famous at our school.
They had groupies
and everything.
They were called
Rough Justice.
Bloody Mary
and the Smithfield Assembly.
That's a great name.
Wong.
I love that.
That's cool.
Our band when we were 16
was called Shut Up Connor.
Guess what our drummer's
name was?
Poor Connor.
Poor Connor at the back.
Yeah.
Atlas Woods.
They took it serious. took this They took it serious
Yeah
Wasn't there a band called Atlas?
There was a New Zealand band called Atlas
Yeah
There was
Yeah
Maybe
This was 98
So that's after Atlas
Oh no before Atlas
NVI's
Nostalgic Bliss
This is so
It's just right
Yes
Like when you hear it
You're like that's right
That is so right
Someone said
I remember you hosting
A rock quest
In the early 2000s
Because my friend's band
Name was Toast
And the thing was
When they played
We all threw toast on stage
Do you remember that?
Do you remember that?
It was a real pain
To clean up
Because they had to clean it up
Before the next band
And it was just like
Crumbly bits of toast
Everywhere
Toast So good Man Okay Love a bit of nostalgia because they had to clean it up before the next band and it was just like crumbly bits of toast everywhere.
Toast.
So good.
Man, okay, love a bit of nostalgia.
Play.
ZDM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley.
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Today's Fact of the Day comes to us from Jess.
Jess who's... Jess...
He's malfunctioning again.
It's the champ.
It's the champ.
Reset.
Jess heard yesterday's Fact of the day about the paint that never dries.
Oh, yeah.
The anti-climb paint.
People climbing and vandalising.
And she said, and George today's fact of the day about anti-climb paint,
have you heard of go away green paint?
Oh.
No, I have not.
I immediately said no, but then I didn't wait for her to tell me.
I started Googling straight away.
Go away green or no see I'm green is a set of proprietary colours used in Disneyland and other Disney amusement parks
to disguise parts of the park's infrastructure.
Oh, I understand.
It blends in with the environment.
Lamp posts, rubbish bins.
An old concrete base is also, I'm going to Disneyland in July.
I'm going to find this.
You're going to find this?
I'm going to find this.
Right, most people go for the rides.
So they paint it green.
I actually went to Disneyland last year.
Don't want to brag.
But I went to Disneyland last year for the Star Wars celebration.
And there were these people doing things like that.
And I said to one guy, I was like, what are you doing?
He's like, oh, I'm doing the hidden Disney things.
And I was like, what?
So there's all these things that you can go to Disneyland
and you can Disney it up all day long.
But then if you like Google like the secret things to do at Disneyland,
you can do secret things at Disneyland.
Like what?
Like he was in Galaxy's Edge
the Star Wars part and he was going around scanning
these QR codes and when you got
all the codes it let you go around and like control
little things in the park. So you
could walk up to the droids in the
Star Wars part and if you'd scan all the QR codes
you could push the button and the droids would react
to you. I don't know if that's worth your time
or it's
totally worth your time
or you could just go to Space Mountain
it's gone
is it gone?
they're redoing it
or you could go on a rollercoaster
yeah totally you could
or you could eat chips
eat chips
you get some ears mate
oh I know you eat a turkey leg
everyone's running around
eating massive turkey legs
I didn't know about this turkey leg
and someone said to me
when I was at Rainbow's End
I was talking to my friends have you been to Disneyland they said yeah did you get a turkey leg. And someone said to me when I was at Rainbow's End, talking to my friends, have you been to Disneyland?
I said, yeah.
They said, did you get a turkey leg?
I'm like, no.
Big, gamey-ass chicken drumstick.
So this paint.
So go away green.
Lots of things in Disneyland are painted go away green.
At Pixie Hollow, which is a meet and greet,
there is a large block of concrete that is the last remaining footprint
of the Monsanto House of the Future,
which then I was like, I've got to know more about this Monsanto House of the Future, which then I was like,
I've got to know more about this Monsanto House of the Future.
It was in Disneyland.
It was a fully plastic house.
It was there from like 57 to 67.
Oh, yeah.
Monsanto, everybody's favorite chemical.
Oh, they love that.
Everyone loves them.
We, agricultural chemical company, like sponsored it and said,
this is the power of plastics.
We can like make these homes out of plastics. And everyone was like, oh, that's quite cool. But after a while, people are like, it and said, this is the power of plastics. We can like make these homes out of plastics.
And everyone was like, oh, that's quite cool.
But after a while, people are like, eh, it's just a house.
And they were like, we want this room for something else.
So they pulled it down.
It was so hard to pull down because it was so well-made and so strong.
It took them way longer and way more equipment to pull it down.
Anyway, the concrete pad it sat on is now painted go away green.
Oh.
So that people aren't like, what's that giant concrete
pad? Because their eyes don't focus
on it. So it blends it a bit better.
It blends it all around, yeah.
And lots of things. Club 33, the
private club within Disneyland.
How do you get into that?
Has it got cocktails and stuff?
Club 33, I've clipped on it and this is
a fact of the day all into itself.
Okay.
But yeah, lots of different things have been painted green.
Doorways that no longer lead to rides or things that don't exist anymore,
they paint them green so that people don't actively say,
like, what's behind that door?
I'm going to need you to do a story with a go-away green
when you're at Disneyland.
I'll do some go-away green.
Yeah, I'm definitely there.
I request that.
There's a grey variant called Noceum Grey.
Yeah.
That's for areas with less natural greenery to blend into.
And Blending Blue is what they paint taller structures with,
so it blends into the sky in the background.
Oh.
Wow-ee.
So thanks, Jess, for this fascinating fact.
Yeah.
About go-away green.
I think we've used our paint facts.
You know what?
I don't think we have. I don't think we have.
I don't think we have.
If you've got a really thrilling paint fact.
I think we can do something else tomorrow.
If you've got a thrilling paint fact.
It could be more.
Because it's a short week, so this is perfect.
Three paint facts.
It's paint week.
Yeah, right.
It's paint week here at Fact of the Day.
It's paint week and it doesn't have a sponsor.
Oh, you could get a sponsor.
If you have a zine on board,
they sponsor me.
Well, no, no, no.
This is me specifically.
If you would like to wire me $1,500
tomorrow,
your paint product could sponsor
the paint factory.
It's actually illegal for you to do that.
Is it?
I don't think it's illegal.
I don't think it's illegal.
It's very naughty.
It's naughty.
It's very naughty.
It's frowned upon.
But it's not illegal.
All right. Today's frowned upon, but it's not illegal. All right.
Today's fact of the day is that there is a color green.
Things are painted at Disneyland called Galway green.
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
Yeah. I forgot to mention this yesterday.
At the weekend when we were flying to the beautiful Marlborough,
there was a little bit of turbulence.
Oh, okay.
A touch of turbulence and we were on a small prop-driven plane.
Your wife doesn't like flying, does she?
Not a huge fan.
She was actually all right, though,
because I think she knows that if she panics,
the children will look,
and then they'll panic because she's panicking.
Well, it's like flight attendants.
Have you ever seen a flight attendant sit there
and they're just like jiggling away?
That is not a jiggle face right away.
It's them doing something else.
I mean, it might be jiggling.
A jiggle can lead to that face.
But that face
You just did
It's definitely not
Just like all light turbulence
You know sometimes
They're packing themselves
They're packing themselves
And they're like
Well I can't scream
Because I'm in charge
And you're trying to look
Cool calm and collected
But that's parenting isn't it
That's a game
That's not a cool calm
And collected face
No that's a
Scared out of your
It's the big O
No that's not
Have you had one of those
I haven't
But I heard that wonderful
The toes are curling
At this point
Yeah
Anyway I've got children
And I still haven't
So that's a mystery
For another day
Anyway we're on the
And there's a bit of turbulence
And I'm sitting across the
Aisle from
And what face are you doing
I don't
I'm just like
Give us your face
That's an O face
What this is my
No that's a terrible O
If that's an O face
This is my Riz.
I know about Riz.
Charisma.
What's Riz?
Giving them the charisma.
I know.
I'm down with the slang.
You are.
I had to ask my 11-year-old what the Riz was.
That's fine.
Pop off.
No cap.
Yeah.
Dude, dad is bussing.
Dad's bussing.
Dad's bussing over here.
We have no choice but to stand our bussing dad.
Yeah.
Heck yeah.
No cap. No cap, dad. What stand our bussing dad. Yeah. Heck yeah. No cap.
No cap, dad.
What were we talking about?
Oh, yeah.
So we were adding some tubulins and dad's chucking the riz.
Yeah.
So August is over the aisle from me and I'm holding her hand.
Cute.
I know.
Don't want to brag about it.
Great dad.
But I'm holding her hand and she's got her eyes shut.
And Indy's like, she's praying.
Wow.
I was like, what. I was like,
what?
I was like,
August,
are you praying?
We're not religious
at all.
Yeah.
My children find out
things about religion
and it blows their mind.
Like,
we're still some churches
and they're like,
so what is this?
Do your Catholic parents
at all ever
do you pray with them
at Christmas?
No, no.
Oh, there's a grace
but it's like
more of a funny.
Thanks for the food. Thanks for the food.
Thanks to the chef.
Yeah, yeah.
Cheers, mate, for another stellar year.
Yeah, yeah.
Brilliant.
I don't know who we're talking to.
Big ups, JC.
So they saw churches at the weekend.
They're like, so what happens in here?
It's like a church.
Like people go and they're like, can anyone just go?
I'm like, yeah, they love it when new people come.
They're just like, amazing.
And you give them all the money.
Yeah, you got to give them all the money.
You're giving them some money.
Line their old pockets.
Yeah.
So we're on the, and she's praying. And I said, August, are you got to give them all the money. You're giving them some money. Line their old pockets. So we're on the,
and she's praying
and I said,
August, are you praying?
And she said, yes.
And I said,
who are you praying to?
And she's like,
I don't know.
I was like,
well, generally when you pray,
you pray to someone.
Yeah.
And she's like,
oh, who do I pray to?
I'm like, wow,
that's completely up to you.
You know,
like different people pray.
Well, how do you decide
who you pray to?
I said, well,
some people are born
into religion or some people are born into religion
or some people find one that resonates with them
and that's who they start praying to.
She's like, so how do you pick a person to pray to?
And I said, well, it's someone you believe all powerful
and omnipresent and they can help you out or whatever.
And she's like, okay, I choose Vecna from Stranger Things.
Oh my gosh.
I was just like, oh, we are in so much trouble here.
She's going to light stuff on fire.
Yeah, she's going to be.
We're going to walk into her room one day,
and she will have drawn a circle on the carpet
with an upside-down star in it.
She's going to have a goth phase soon.
I feel like she'll be having a big goth phase.
Oh, my God, I've got bags of stuff I can give her.
Oh, wonderful.
Wonderful. Or you just go to the pet store. That was my favourite. I've got bags of stuff I can give her. Oh, wonderful. Wonderful.
Or should you just go to the pet store?
That was my favourite.
Go to the pet store.
You get all sorts of chains and collars.
Good fun.
Oh, for the collars.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You want to get a high-quality collar.
And I suppose you could go for a studded cat collar for the wrist.
For the cuffs, we used to go to Mr. Thank You.
Do you remember Mr. Thank You?
Was it a little, like, $2 shoppy?
Yeah.
Mr. Thank You.
Do you guys remember Mr. Thank You?
No, we didn't have it in the concert. Oh, Mr. Thank You. Do you guys remember Mr. Thank You? No, we didn't have it.
Oh, Mr. Thank You.
It was like a Wellington bloody, what do you call it?
Institution.
Institution.
Right.
Get your cuffs and your incense burners and your nose rings and all sorts.
So August is religious now.
Ah, well.
Who does she choose?
Vecna.
Yeah.
So she's stuck with Vecna.
I was like, he's the bad guy.
She's like, well, you didn't say they had to be good.
You just said they had to be powerful.
He's got you there.
I was like, well, I can argue with it.
Play ZM's Fletch Vodden Ailey.
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This is coming to you from an expert, so we must believe it.
Okay.
We simply must believe it.
A sort of fraud and financial expert has basically told us how the websites trick us into sticking around and spending more money.
You know when you load up a cart or you sign up for the 10% off discount and then they keep emailing you?
Do you still want that stuff?
Oh my God, I know.
Do you still want that stuff? Hey my God, I know. Do you still want that stuff?
Hey, left something behind.
Unsubscribe.
Unsubscribe.
One of them is a trick question.
Trick questions may appear
to ask one thing
but are designed to ask another.
For example,
when cancelling a subscription,
there could be two options,
continue and cancel.
And they're knowing
that a lot of people will be like,
well, I want to cancel. Oh, I've had this. But actually what I'm doing is I'm can, continue and cancel. And they're knowing that a lot of people will be like, well, I want to cancel.
Oh, I've had this.
But actually what I'm doing is I'm cancelling my cancel.
They're tricking you because they're like, stay around.
I've had that before.
Yeah, and then I double checked and it hadn't worked.
Yeah.
And I had cancelled the cancel.
They go like, do you want to cancel?
Continue, cancel.
And you go like, well, I want to cancel.
Yeah.
I want to cancel my cancel.
Ah, that cancelled your cancel.
Now you're still getting the emails. You probably see something you like eventually., I want to cancel. Yeah. I want to cancel my cancel. Ah, that cancelled your cancel. Gotcha. Now you're still getting the emails.
You'll probably see something you like. Eventually you're going to spend more money.
Well, you've signed up to your subscription for another
month or year. That's right.
Sneaking items into your basket is
apparently a very popular thing.
An unwanted product in your
checkout. My big part?
Yeah. I've never had that before.
Neither have I. Sometimes online retailers
will sneak in items hoping unsuspected shoppers will not see the extra cost.
Do you know there was a...
Oh, because you might have missed an opt-out for a combo thing.
Like, add this.
Oh, yeah, right.
Okay.
There was a dairy we used to live by that was sneaky.
The papers, put the newspapers on,
and you'd put your milk down to pay,
and they'd charge you for the newspaper.
If you'd be like, oh, you've charged me too much,
they'd be like, sorry, I just assumed you wanted the newspaper. You sat milk on the newspaper. If you're like, oh, you've charged me too much, they'll be like, sorry, I just assumed
you wanted the newspaper.
You set milk on them
at newspaper.
But they put it there.
My God.
I went to a dairy
the other day
and I walked in
and I said,
do you guys have
the newspaper?
They said no.
I was like,
what are you?
You've got to have
the newspaper.
Just for juice
and fizzy drinks?
I wanted the newspaper.
Vapes?
Vapes.
Vapes.
Well, no one's rammered
in the dairy
for the newspaper,
are they? they no they're
not um another one is hidden costs at checkout i mean you know this it's like here's especially
in america it'll be like here's the cost now here's the gst now here's the bloody conversion
for a state tax now here's your um shipping costs which are really high but you're already
falling in love with the item and added it to your cart.
So yes, I can charge you $20 for shipping.
Yeah.
So that's the hidden costs, extra fees and all that.
Oh, that's bad for tickets.
Buying tickets, you know, for a concert or something.
Yeah.
You buy a ticket and then you pay an admin fee
and a processing fee and a printing fee
and you're like, huh?
I'm not printing this.
It's on my phone.
A fulfillment and service fee.
Confirm shaming customers.
Now, I hate when people do this.
This is a trick, another trick that they use.
That they use to keep you there.
What did you call it?
Confirm shaming.
Confirm shaming.
So, you know if you try to opt out of something,
and there was a website called My Medic, for example, in 2018.
And if you wanted to opt out from receiving notifications about the medical equipment they sold and the vitamins and stuff,
the opt out link came up and it said the options were,
no, I don't want to stay alive.
You know what I mean? Rather than just saying like, no, I don't want to stay alive. You know what I mean?
Rather than just saying like, no, I don't want the emails.
Are you sure?
Yes, I'm sure.
I don't want to stay alive.
Like a clothing website could say, you don't want to look cool.
So you don't want to look cool.
Yeah, you don't want to impress your friends.
Confirm.
Oh my God.
Confirm shaming.
And I see this quite a lot and I'll be like, God.
So you don't want to support us and the work that we do for humans around the world that
are less fortunate than you.
So what yes I do.
I just don't want you to email me every day about it.
Yeah.
Disguised ads.
That's a big one.
I mean, I get ads in my inbox and my personal email.
I'm always like trying to click it to be like, who's sending me this?
Oh, you're like Gmail?
Disguised ad
yeah yeah
Gmail
blurring the line
between actual content
and advertising
now we get this a lot
because we go on
a lot of news websites
right
for our prep for the show
and what not
and then sometimes
you'll be clicking
on an article
that looks like
a juicy article
but it's totally
just an ad for a product
and then you're hooked in
because you read
the whole bloody thing
what product was it
I enjoy
a little storytelling in my advertising.
Yeah, right. Yeah, they'll get
me. It'll usually do with weight loss.
Usually weight loss.
And the last one he says to keep an eye out for is
the Roach Motel. The Roach
Motel? Yeah. So
hiding the cancellation process
so that you have to
stay.
Oh, okay, right.
So you know, like,
when you,
usually emails are really good now.
You go unsubscribe or whatever.
Yeah.
And you can,
and it's really quick.
Sometimes you just, like,
cannot find the way to no longer be signed up
for this online shopping experience.
Which is illegal in New Zealand as well.
Yeah, so that's why it's so easy for us.
But this is from the UK
where, like,
they just make it almost impossible
for you to find your way out of this website,
that you'll just stick around.
And then for them,
the hope is that you'll stick around,
you'll get the thing,
you'll eventually buy something,
they may money off you.
Roach Motelling.
So be careful out there.
Oh, another podcast in the bag.
The plastic bag.
Are they back?
No, no, still banned.
Okay. They never left. That's where. Are they back? No, no, still banned. Okay.
They never left.
No, sorry.
That's where you come in with the line, boy.
Boy, man, if you enjoyed that.
Okay.
Oh, and if you enjoyed it, give us a rating and a review
and be sure to tell all of your friends.
God, I need some sleep.
Yeah.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.