ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 29th June 2023

Episode Date: June 28, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The ZM Podcast Network. The Fletch Vaughan and Hayley Big Pod. Download the MyMaccas app and earn rewards on your coffee. Hello, good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Hello. Oh, we've got a special guest in, so nice and early. Yeah, dear friend. We've got her early because you never know with Morgan. She's up at the sun.
Starting point is 00:00:22 Yeah, she does like to get up. She's got a real cicada rhythm. She needs to sun her bits. Yes, and she's a cicada. Well, she likes to earth her bits as well. That's right. Earth, sun, water, wind, heart, her bits. I'll keep them. This is somatic sexologist Morgan Penn, who
Starting point is 00:00:38 you did the podcast with. I sure did. Well, she did the podcast with me. It depends on which way you look at it. Yeah, sex, not life. By the way, all the episodes out now, so you can binge that. Binge, binge, binge. I know you guys did a Q&A to end the wild ride that was that podcast. We did. But we asked you if you had any questions for Morgan,
Starting point is 00:00:55 and this was actually quite a popular question. Yeah, people asking how to manage your libido if you're on some kind of medication, an antidepressant, a birth control. Huge impact on libido. So maybe Morgan can give us some tips on how to keep the spice alive. Yeah, she's in this morning before 7 on the show. But first up, I have the things to remove from your bedroom to get a better night's sleep.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Like a jackhammer. Yep. Yep. Remove that. A diesel generator. Yep. You boys got it. You can remove that. A wild coyote. Just simpler things. Bark. Yep. Remove that. A diesel generator. Yep. You boys got it. You can remove that. Wild coyote. Just simpler
Starting point is 00:01:27 things. Barking dogs. Yeah, get rid of that. Simple. Yeah, well, dogs is actually on the list. Play. ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. Are you in need of a better sleep? Tired of waking up and feeling groggy and like you haven't slept at all?
Starting point is 00:01:44 Well, boy, do I have a list for you. Join me as I go through the five things you should remove from your bedroom for a better night's sleep. Oh. Dog. Yes, pets. Is one of them your annoying snoring partner? Partner's not on it. Don't embrace your loneliness.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Okay, I won't put them in any order because you've got the first one. Pets, get them gone. Oh, see. partner's not on it don't embrace your loneliness okay I will start I won't put them in any order because you've got the first one pets get them gone oh see now I don't it's yeah I don't agree
Starting point is 00:02:11 my heart is not full yeah my heart is not full if Rolly is not like down by our feet or between us well Major Murray likes to snuggle up
Starting point is 00:02:19 on my arm or right next to me on my pillow it's real cute oh look at that furrowed brow across from me born
Starting point is 00:02:24 oh he's an anti-pets in the room I'd even like the dog sleeping in the garage right next to me on my pillow. It's real cute. Look at that furrowed brow across from me, Bourne. Oh, he's an anti-pets in the room. I don't even like the dogs sleeping in the garage anymore. Where do you want them sleeping? Because they make such a mess. I'm storing a couch in your garage at the moment. Can you not have them sleep on there? No, I unboxed it.
Starting point is 00:02:40 That's what they're sleeping on. No, please put it back in the box. I didn't ask you to unbox it. I was like, oh, this old outdoor furniture is not that comfortable. I'll unbox Hayley's couch. I put a towel down. Oh, it's so expensive. They have treated a couple of pillows.
Starting point is 00:02:53 No, but I don't even like. They make a bloody mess. Kennels, yes. Get some kennels. Yes, kennels, yes. But not a kennel. Build them their own little house. You know how rich people build little mini homes. With AC.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Yeah. I wish when you, because you had a playhouse removed from yours, it would have been the perfect two-dog dog kennel and I could have put some nice windows in it, some pink bats, insulated up. Now some dumb neighbourhood children are happy playing in it. Where's my house? But then I saw one on a Facebook marketplace,
Starting point is 00:03:22 but it's like you need a high-abdiluted. I was like, I don't need another project like that right now. But I would like to get the dogs their own area because then you can do things like get those little warmie blankets. Have you ever seen these? They charge off like a solar panel. And they're minimal to no power required because dogs don't want to be too hot.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And then there's no dog on your bed. You get a good night's sleep. Alongside no dog on the bed. Babies. No old yeah. Old people? Each to their own.
Starting point is 00:03:48 No old people. That's going to work for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Pillows. No old pillows. Really? Why old?
Starting point is 00:03:55 Yeah. The more the older their fibres come apart which makes them more likely to absorb and retain sweat oils and dead skin cells from your face and hair.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Which is more likely to make you sick. Do you know what I did the other day? I washed the pillowcase protector that's on the actual pillow. You've got those too. I need to wash mine. Did you wash that on the body pillow? Because the body pillow's got one of those. I did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I did all of them. And then put on some nappy sand and all white. Oh, I can't do that. Because you know they get like... They get the dry humpstones out? Yeah, what's that like yellow, what are the yellow stains on pillows? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:28 It's just sweat and grease and stuff. Which is crazy because I shower before I go to bed every night, but I still leave over time. And there's a pillowcase on top. Like how do they get yellow and manky? I don't know. It sneaks through you see.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Have you ever been at a hotel or a motel and you've seen under the pillowcase? Dude. Don't do it. Or like when you go to put your hand like near it but it slips into the pillowcase by mistake and you feel the like pilled inner and you're like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Okay, no old pillows, no pets. Okay, so these are the things that you should get out of your room for a good night's sleep. General clutter is one. Bad for the headspace. Often takes away the idea of your room being calming in a sanctuary. Fine, I'll clean up the floor drobe then. Well, your room is very minimal in general.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Yeah, I like to keep it clean. Not too much there. Another one, get out. Mobile phone. I love my phone in bed. I can see why. Distracting and the light keeps people awake. You've got it.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Don't do it. They don't want it. Even if they say if you've got it and you use it as your alarm, you need to get a bedside alarm. Okay. Those pump out a fair bit of light. Yeah, they do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I always turn them over at a hotel or unplug them. Flip it down, same. I hate light in the room. That reminds me, I've got it right on my hand because my bloody children have turned their one on. They flipped the alarm switch when the power went off last night and it came back on. They switched it and so alarm went default on. But of course default alarm is midnight.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Which is truly the dumbest thing that they do. Yeah. Number one thing to remove from your bedroom for a better night's sleep is anything relating to your workspace. So if you've got a desk in there and you've got a laptop, you've got worksheets.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Sometimes I do this. I'm tired. I'll jump into bed and I'll be like, I'm just going to do a little bit of work. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Kills you. Not only kills your ability to sleep, but also your ability to get sexy. I hardly do work at work. It seems insane to do it in your
Starting point is 00:06:24 most precious space. I've just seen an article regarding penis amnesia. Okay. Penis amnesia. Yeah. Most people can't remember a single penis they've seen
Starting point is 00:06:38 in any sort of detail other than the fact it was a penis. I mean, I'm just literally sending it to my wife saying, do you reckon you could
Starting point is 00:06:43 pick mine in a line up? But surely it's different if you were like if I think about any other person that I've ever slept with I would never in a thousand years would I remember it. Whether I was with him for a long time or just a short time. You can remember the face. Face, experience kissing maybe.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yeah. Not the penis. I don't even know if I'd be able to pick out errands. That's what this thing said. But you've been with him for years. Are you kidding? I need to go home and study it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:12 That's like some quotes. Somebody said, I don't even think I could picture my current boyfriends. Really? Yeah. Combined sexual arousal, stress, anxiety, poor sleep, and alcohol together, you've got the perfect recipe for penis amnesia. Right. In 2015, a report into a woman's preferences found Together, you've got the perfect recipe for penis amnesia. Right. In 2015, a report into a woman's preferences found that a significant...
Starting point is 00:07:28 Hold on, I didn't read this one. Yeah, slow down, slow down. He has it right ahead, which with this kind of material is a little dodgy. It is pretty essential. Okay, 2015 report into a woman's preferences found that a significant number of women not only forgot what size penises were after 10 minutes, they tended to slightly underestimate the length of penis models after a recall delay. Oh my gosh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Penises were recalled? Yeah. What? Well, because friend of the show, Morgan Sexologist, she because I was like, I wonder if it would be the other way around, but I feel like vulvas have more defining features
Starting point is 00:08:06 or am I wrong? Is Volvo amnesia a thing? I always forget where I park mine. No that's a Volvo. Oh we're not talking about Volvos. No.
Starting point is 00:08:15 But there's like great safety in those cars though. Yeah. There's a website that is a friend of Morgan's and she does the Volvo gallery which is like this awesome
Starting point is 00:08:23 yeah the girlies night. I think she talked about it on the podcast. Yeah, and she posed for one of them. And she was like, I wonder if I'd even be able to pick out mine. And then I just opened it and a whole lot of vulvas came up. And I'm very comfortable with a barrette work. And we've got a big window behind us. And I literally scrolled and was like, woo!
Starting point is 00:08:39 Vulva glores. But I know that Morgan's is in here. But she hasn't told you which one. No, I know some of her defining features. Very little changes in the appearance of the vulva. Whereas the males. Well, no, no, it changes, but not like as drastically as the penis through stages of like, no, this is just like within the period of love.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I thought you meant each vulva from woman to woman. I was like, extremely different. But, you know, like from the start of, what are the kids calling it now? Hooking it up. What? It's a big no from Shannon. From the start of hooking it up. What do you call it?
Starting point is 00:09:13 What do you call it when you're going to get down to business? Oh, wait, wait, wait. As the kids say, when you're about to get down to business. When you're about to have a bit of booty patooties. When you're about to be a baddie. I'm like, can you stop? You would just say, like, have a root. We're going back!
Starting point is 00:09:30 We have some decorum! Oh, my God, we're going back! Shanna! That's what we used to call it in the 90s. That's what it was in the early 2000s. People see Woolies in different stages throughout the... What was it? Getting ready to have a root.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Also, your watch is telling us we're in a loud environment. Because I was not expecting the R word to come out. No. It also thinks I've had a fall. Apologise to listeners. I'm excited. Do you, producers in the booth, do you agree about penis amnesia? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Yeah, I think so fully. But could you pick your own boyfriends out of the line-up? Do you think so fully or just semi-believer? You couldn't. I don't think so. What if there were 10? You couldn't? Yeah, I think I could if there were 10 and there was groin.
Starting point is 00:10:14 What, was it just that long? Is he quite puby? No, no, he keeps himself nice and trim. Okay, okay. How specific is the photo? What are we seeing? It would be a full frontal of, say... What do you want to see underneath?
Starting point is 00:10:26 The same of the vulva. Yeah. She wants to see all of it. I can spot his anus and tell you what. Turns out the average person spends... This is in New York. Yeah. But, I mean, what is New Zealand,
Starting point is 00:10:41 if not New York of the South Pacific? Well, we're both new. We were with brands back in New York. Yeah, we're new. You're both right. back in New York. Yeah, we're new. You're both right. Ask Papa New Guinea. Yeah. That, N-Y, we're N-Z.
Starting point is 00:10:49 We're the next in the alphabet. Yeah, after New York. And Newfoundland. The average employee spends 50 hours a year purchasing beverages at the cafe. Okay. It takes them 16 minutes to leave their desk, buy a drink, and return. Three such trips a week. Three.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Round up. Employees end up losing an entire work of productivity per year, but you cannot. What do you mean an entire day? An entire week. An entire week. Yeah, 50 hours a year, so over a week's worth of paid employment. Which, as someone that loves slacking off and finding a loophole,
Starting point is 00:11:20 fantastic. And also, it's fresh air. Chuck a poop in there. Yeah. You've got another week left. Chuck a poop in there. Not in your coffee. Don't put a poop in fresh air. Chuck a poop in there. Yeah. You've got another week off. Chuck a poop in there. Not in your coffee. Don't put a poop in the coffee.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Chuck a poop in your daily schedule. But it's hard for us because we work on the schedule of the songs and the ads. Yeah. So we can't take, you know, when we're off air, we can basically do what we want. Yeah, we've got an intense like three hours of on air. Yes. And, you know, before and after. But it's not a whole work day where, like, you get to 3 o'clock
Starting point is 00:11:46 and you're like. We do all sorts. Maybe I'll go for a half an hour coffee break, which I would totally do. Get out, stretch your legs. I might start doing that at 8 o'clock. No. No.
Starting point is 00:11:56 It's taking a half hour at 8. If we're breaking the show into thirds and it's the last third of the working day, I might take a. Back for fact of the day. Yeah. Did they in the study, did they look at how much smokers get? Because don't smokers get the same... Yes, I was going to say this.
Starting point is 00:12:09 One of the main reasons I took my smoking when I was 18, 19, from social to full time, was because I started working in a retail store and all the managers and shop people smoked. And I was like, well, I enjoy a cigarette when I have a little drinky poo. I'll just start going out and having bigger breaks. And any time, so you'd have your allocated...
Starting point is 00:12:28 So wait, you would smoke just to get out of the store? No, well, I was sort of like, it was fun. I would hang out. There was a construction site opposite us and then we used to perv on them. And then one of our girls married one of them. How about that? What? It was so beautiful. We used to perv on them and then one of them would perv back.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Did she get cat called? Yeah. And we were like, ah, Janine! And then he came over to the shop one day and was like, where's the blondie? And we were like blondie! And then blondie came out and now they're married and they have two kids. It's so nice. What a modern day Wellington retail love
Starting point is 00:13:00 story. But that was all thanks to the Durries. No, I'm not encouraging your analogue cigarettes. This study didn't look into smoking because much like the show, it was sponsored by a coffee outlet. Oh, yes. The show, McCafe.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Well, that's what I was going to say. If people want to take time out of their busy work week, three, four, five times a week to walk to, show sponsor McCafe. Yeah. Or drive. Or drive, yeah, exactly. I can a week to walk to show sponsor McCafe. Yeah. Or drive. Or drive. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I can say download the My Mac has happened and rewards on your coffee. Show sponsor. Thank you. Show sponsor. Thank you. Here we go. That was for free as well. Play ZM's Fletchford and Ailey.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Play ZM. From the self-driving ZM think tank, this is the top six. Hello there. Today's top six dealing with Miss Universe because today in 1952, the first Miss Universe pageant was held. Wow. And Ami Krusella from Finland Won the title Of Miss Universe And she's still alive
Starting point is 00:14:06 An army what? Her name is Army Oh Crusader I thought you meant Like an army crusader She's an army crusader
Starting point is 00:14:14 From Finland Charged in Guns are blazing Wow And I won the title She's still alive She's the same age As my nan
Starting point is 00:14:21 Really? Yeah they were born In the same year 1934 Is there a photo Of her in her winning year Like I imagine She's still alive. She's the same age as my nan. Really? Yeah, they were born in the same year, 1934. Is there a photo of her in her winning year? Like, I imagine she's, like, blonde and leggy. Because they're very tall.
Starting point is 00:14:38 It's like she looks like a 1950s, like, post-World War II pinup babe. Yeah, okay. Really smiley, blonde hair. It's a black and white photo. How do you know? That she's blonde? Yeah, it could be ginger. Oh, no, it's not ginger. No, it's her energy.
Starting point is 00:14:49 And she's from Finland. It was a little bit of an assumption on my part. Yes, yes. So I've got the top six questions posed to Miss Universe in 1952 that old people probably still ask their grandkids today. Number six on the list. Are those hips capable of bearing children?
Starting point is 00:15:06 Wow. A great question for a line-up in 1952 and also what your grandparents still ask you today. At Christmas, yep. Such a shame, Hayley, that you're not having children.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Look at those hips. They have not said that, have they? No one said it to me. No. Number five on the list of the top six questions posted Miss Universe in 1952
Starting point is 00:15:25 that old people probably still ask their grandkids today. What's your favourite dish to cook a man to keep him happy? Yeah. Meatloaf. What a great answer, Hayley. A real shame you're not married with those childbearing hips and that meatloaf recipe. Just waiting for the right man.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Good on you for being picky, but don't wait too long. Tick tock, tick tock. I'm 22. Number four on the list of the top six questions posted Miss Universe in 1952 that old people probably still ask their grandkids today. Can you iron a shirt? I mean, it's a hard skill to learn. It's a good, but once you're there, put it over there, you can't flitch.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Well, no, normally. You wouldn't have won this universe. When we were at a wedding recently, James, our friend, had to iron all the shirts. Yeah. No, he didn't iron my shirt. I'm very capable of ironing my own shirt. He would have if you'd asked him. No, I know, but I didn't want to.
Starting point is 00:16:15 He's very good at it. But yeah, I had to do it myself for the awards night recently, and God, it was a struggle. And then I just did the front because no one could see the back. No one could see the back. And the sleeves were in the jacket.. And the sleeves were in the jacket. Yeah, the sleeves were in the jacket. That's such a man thing. But yeah, I mean, the moment you put your jacket on,
Starting point is 00:16:29 it's going to get crumpled anyway. See, all I did is the front bit. And you could never tell because I didn't take my jacket off. Couldn't tell at all. No, exactly. Our number three on the list are the top six questions posted to Miss Universe in 1952 that old people probably still ask their grandkids today. How do you like to treat your man like the king he is?
Starting point is 00:16:48 Yeah. That's always, for some reason, old people think that falls on a woman to keep the man happy. Yeah. And then you look at
Starting point is 00:16:53 your granddad and you're like, jeez, that guy's miserable. Must be Nana's fault. Gotta be Nana's fault. Can't be his own problems and the fact he never talks about
Starting point is 00:17:00 his feelings or open up to his mates about his, I don't know, his true aspirations in life. Number two on the list of the top six questions posted Miss Universe in 1952 that old people probably still ask their grandkids today. And number two is, do you think you're getting a bit fat? Old people just don't hold back with that, eh? Nah, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:17:20 How many, like, it's Christmas bingo. It's like, how long until Nan says, oh, shivers. Gosh, you've got a big. You don't need that much pudding, do you? You've filled out. You think it's bad. Asian grandparents are the worst. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:17:35 What you're, like. Sade's mama was a shocker. Never really to Sade, but everybody else, she'd put her hand around their wrist, and if her fingers didn't touch, she'd be like, oh. Oh, I can't touch mine. Too fat. Oh.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I just got mine with my fingernails included. She literally had tiny old lady hands, and she'd try to get her thing around like a full-grown person's wrist, and she'd be like, ah. Oh, dear. That's your bones. I don't carry a lot of weight on my wrists. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And number one on the list of the top six questions posted Miss Universe in 1952 that old people probably still ask their grandkids today, and I couldn't have said that better because Fletch pretty much said at the top, that's a weird name, where are you from? I did not say that at the front. I just thought you'd said her name was Army
Starting point is 00:18:22 Crusader. She's an army crusader. How many times has New Zealand won Miss Universe? Once. Well, there's Miss World and Miss Universe. And which one was Donald Trump? He owned one of them. Miss Universe, I think.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I think Lorraine Downs won. The Yogurt Lady. Is she the Yogurt Lady? She did have a stand endorsing yogurt. A Yogurt Lady. Is she the Yogurt Lady? Who did the low endorsing yogurt? A yogurt. Lorraine Downs, Miss Universe 1983 she won. Did Rachel Hunter
Starting point is 00:18:53 win one or was she just a model slash Miss New Zealand? I thought she was an ice cream. Miss Universe New Zealand. She was an ice cream. An ice cream ambassador. A tip top girl. She was a tip top ambassador. See I don't think she ever did. I don't even think she did. She was a tip top ambassador No she I don't No see I don't think She ever did Right I don't even think she did
Starting point is 00:19:07 She was a supermodel though Rachel Hunter was like She was a supermodel She was Stacey's mom Got it going on She's definitely got it going on though Yeah So do you need
Starting point is 00:19:15 Do you need to win This universe If you're Stacey's mom Absolutely not Absolutely not You've already won the universe That is today's top six Play
Starting point is 00:19:23 ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Now, we are joined by dear friend, Morgan Penn, sexologist, somatic sexologist. Star of season one of Sex.Life, the podcast. One of the stars. Wow, she didn't say one of the stars. No, she is the leading character for sure in that podcast. But yes, you're here and you are here to answer some of our listeners' questions because we did a Q&A for our podcast and we had so many questions,
Starting point is 00:19:54 we couldn't answer them all. So we thought that our ZDM listeners would also want to have a little poke of the beer with Morgan Penn. Great. I'd love to answer them. All right, you've picked out a question. I picked out a question and this question represents many other question answers who asked the same question.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Hey Morgan! Whoa! Do you have any advice on how to get your libido back while being on medications such as birth control or antidepressants? We got this a lot. A lot of people. Yeah. I'm not surprised. A lot of
Starting point is 00:20:26 my clients present with low libido and I have to go and figure out what they're on. Yeah, I'm on both. Oh yeah. Good fun. Wow. Yes. That can really, I guess the thing is like these are amazing medicines that we have and you know, but the thing is what they do is they do suppress they numb down they take away the low lows so it means we're not really getting the high highs and so actually in the body we've got less of a felt sense so really what needs to happen is a rewiring in the body of what pleasure feels like in your current state so it's about waking up the body so the pathways that may have worked previously may not work. So it is about waking up the body. So the pathways that may have worked previously may not work anymore.
Starting point is 00:21:08 So it is about coming into a curiosity of your body as it is now. Because I remember when I first moved to Auckland, I didn't move with Aaron. He had to finish up in Wellington. So I moved by myself. And I was like, in this time, I'm going to take a break off
Starting point is 00:21:23 being on the contraceptive pill because I've been on it my whole adult life. I was like, let's in this time. I'm going to take a break off being on the contraceptive pill because I've been on it my whole adult life. I was like, let's have a go. Good Lord. I barely kept my hands off myself. Wowee. Yeah, nice. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:21:34 My libido was like, oh, hey, old friend. I was like, holy moly, you're still there. Yeah, well, it's hormones. Yeah, and then I went back on it because my skin went crazy. No, no. I know, but it was such an immediate like, well, you know, like a week or so that I was like, oh, my God, I'm a totally different person.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And that was part of it. Living with Aaron's parents. Frantically playing with yourself. Other end of the house. Yeah, get that. There's Catholics too. Oh, my God. A lot of Jesus in the house.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Multiple no-no. Yeah. You've got to do what you've got to too. Oh my God. A lot of Jesus in the house. Multiple no-no. Yeah. You've got to do what you've got to do. Yeah. But you know, a lot of people have to be on these medications. Yes, exactly. But it doesn't mean that pleasure has to stop. And actually, yes, the desire to actually get started in that realm might be harder.
Starting point is 00:22:19 But I do recommend just starting. Like actually setting up the scene for yourself or with another person because physiologically you will still start having responses. So you might not have the drive to do it, but put aside time and start. Don't override your body. Like if it's like actually absolutely no,
Starting point is 00:22:39 but if it's a yes, like keep going. And the more you do that, the more the body goes, oh yeah, actually I do like this. I can feel this. This is good. Yeah. Is that harder for guys? like keep going and the more you do that the more the body goes oh yeah actually i do like this i can feel this this is good yeah is that harder for guys like because you've got it you know you know what i mean like if there's no desire there for the guy and there are medications stopping that yeah but you can still yeah you can still get the arousal going and it might take longer and maybe
Starting point is 00:23:04 you can use sexual aids like visual things to start to watch and then you can still get the arousal going and it might take longer and maybe you can use sexual aids like visual things to start to watch and then you can turn that off so you don't have to use it the whole time but to actually just kick off the brain. Or just fast forward to the good bits. Or that. Well, I'd just lie back and be like, give us a wait-me-up-when-September-ends sort of situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I don't suppose it's like going to the gym, though. What? It's always hard to go, but once you're there, you get going. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get there, don't you? You feel good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Get the endorphins going and everything afterwards. You're like, well, I'm glad I went. So you do kind of have to make it like not a job or task, but like... A conscious decision. A conscious decision as opposed to like, oh, I'm feeling a bit rainy today. I'm going to, you know, because that might not happen. That's exactly right. And I actually do use the gym example with my clients a lot
Starting point is 00:23:50 because it's like you just can't expect to go to the gym once and get a big peachy butt. It's the same with kind of learning new pathways of sexual expansion, really, trying new things and things kind of laying in the body so that you know what feels good and that you crave it more. I feel like a lot of people are going to find this
Starting point is 00:24:11 very, very helpful. Especially, I mean, yeah, with men definitely there's a lot of men on medication but I would say 90% of my friends are on some kind of contraceptive medication. Right. Yeah. Doesn't have to mean the end contraceptive medication. Right. Yeah. Doesn't have to mean the end of the good times.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Not at all. Morgan Penn, thank you so much for coming in. Thank you. If somebody would like to follow you on Instagram. Morgan the sexologist. You've got a fancy website? Yes, morganpenn.co.nz. She's got a website.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I don't have a website. Well, you're not a sexologist. I want to see if hayleysprout.co.nz. Just because somebody's got something, it doesn't mean you need one, Hayley. It doesn't. It doesn't. You can just let your friends have a thing you don't have to have.
Starting point is 00:24:50 How do you buy it? How do I buy hayleysprout.co.nz? No, go.com. You buy it. It sounds bigger. It sounds more global if you're.com. Is that a clam shell covering your lady parts there? Yes, it is, actually.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Now, did you eat the clam or did you just buy the shell as decorative? I just plopped that shell on top of myself and let somebody else eat it. There you go, so if you'd like to Wow. She's not lying though, she was just a shell so someone must have eaten that. There you go, the website
Starting point is 00:25:18 again? MorganPenn.co.nz And if you missed the podcast Sex.Life, you can listen to that now on iHeartRadio. Morgan Penn, thank you so much for coming in. My pleasure, thankco.nz. And if you miss the podcast, Sex.Life, you can listen to that now on iHeartRadio. Morgan Penn, thank you so much for coming in. My pleasure. Thank you. My pleasure.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. I believe, sir, you have stumbled across some research. I do. About dates. So I can tell you now, one in five first dates. Now, this comes to us from Bumble, too, and they know. I thought it was always Boomble. Like Michael Boomble Like Michael Boomble
Starting point is 00:25:46 Boomble the dating app One in five Gen Z's and Millennials Have gone to the gym On a first date Would that be where you feel That's CrossFit freaks What did you say these numbers were? One in five
Starting point is 00:26:04 That's more than CrossFit That's gym, that's CrossFit freaks. What did you say these numbers were? One in five. That's more than CrossFit. That's gym, that's spin class, that's yoga class. Would you want to be like doing an insane spin class or any class in front of someone you don't know? This is a first date, you say? First date. First date is a drink at a bar or a
Starting point is 00:26:19 coffee at a cafe. Yes, but people are moving away from that because you do that a few times a week and it adds up. It's too expensive. Yeah, so is a gym membership. I suppose if you've already got one. You're already going.
Starting point is 00:26:31 But would you say that's one of the places? You have to be going to the same gym. You have to be like similar fitness levels. Oh yeah, I'm not joining City Fitty. I'm not joining what's the one you go to? Hey, Anytime Fitness. I'm not joining Anytime Fitness to go on a date. I'm not going to Big Purple. Why not go to Big Puts? Fitness. I'm not joining Anytime Fitness to go on a date. I'm not going to Big Purple.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Why not go to Big Pits? No, I'm big red and black. Red and black? Isn't that Les Mills? Isn't it red and black? Or is this black now? No, it's just black. Which is cool.
Starting point is 00:26:54 No, red is the snap. Snap. Snap and jets. I think it's Jared City Fitty. Yeah, he's City Fitty. What colour is City Fitty? Blue. Blue and red and white.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Blue and red and white. Yeah, can't decide. It's mixed. But no, that's, I never even thought about that. No. I would never. Because that's one of the places you feel the most self-conscious, right?
Starting point is 00:27:12 A gym. Hell yeah. Straight into the Lycras. Yep. Straight into the sweat. Straight into stinking. Straight into like crotch rotch. Crotch rotch. Crazy crotch rotch.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Crotch rot. Crotch rot. Crotch rot. Yuck. But stinky then afterwards. What are you going to have a prody shake and go for a walk? Crotch rot. Crikey, crotch rot. Crotch rot. Crotch rot. Crotch rot. Yuck. But Stingy, then afterwards, what are you going to do, a prody shake and go for a walk? Yuck. No, that's yuck.
Starting point is 00:27:31 And then what are you meant to like chat to them like while you're doing squats, like in between sets? Yeah, Wendy talk. And I've got an ugly face. If I'm going hard, which I always do. And there's no point going half. You've got to go hard, not half. Especially if it's a first date.
Starting point is 00:27:44 You're going max. But I feel no point going half. You've got to go hard, not half. Especially if it's a first date. You're going max. But I feel that's going to lead to either injuries or accidents because you're going to be trying to show off and bench press something that you can't lift and then just look stupid. Yeah. No, that's a terrible idea. This is a terrible idea for a first date.
Starting point is 00:27:59 This is a bad idea. Don't do that. Here's some good places for a first date. Okay, hit us. I mean, you've been married for how many years now? And with your wife? Thirteen. He doesn't have to be screened on the dating world.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Together, nineteen. Yeah. Nineteen! But he knows how to keep a honey. Yeah. He does know how to keep a honey. This is why these tips will be great, I'm sure. A park.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Okay. Go for a walk. Green space. Don't feed the ducks bread. I mean, I'm all for it. I think they love it too. It's bad for them, but they love it. Like the rest of us. Okay. Go for a walk. Green space. Don't feed the ducks bread. I mean, I'm all for it. I think they love it too. It's bad for them, but they love it. Like the rest of us.
Starting point is 00:28:29 We eat things that we know are bad for us, but we love it. But some people don't like the ducks being fed bread. So don't feed the ducks bread on a first date. I feed them rice. I don't know if that's better. Okay. Seeds. I feed them a steak sandwich.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Bread? Yeah. On the steak? Yeah, going here. I think they're supposed to feed them steak. Where else could you go on a first date? A beach. You're telling us.
Starting point is 00:28:48 A beach, yep. I'm talking to myself. Fish and chips? Yeah, fish and chips on the beach. And a crab stick. Yeah, and pre-packed crab. No, that's how I know it's love. If they ooh me when I get my crab stick, I'm like, we can't be together.
Starting point is 00:28:59 What is love? It is a crab stick. A crab stick. And chips. And chips, yeah. What is love? Um, a crab stick and chips. What is love? The beach is another good place. I was going to say the zoo, but that's not for everybody.
Starting point is 00:29:12 You've got a non-old. You've got a non-old. Show sponsor, yeah. You can get the show sponsor in there. A Rose Gardens. Okay. A beauty therapy place. Oh, what are you saying?
Starting point is 00:29:21 What? You could go and get some Botox done together. Or your nails. Do your nails a little mani-pedi? Get high at Professionale on a first date. Expensive though. A bar. You really haven't, you've given us some real standard first date locales there.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Dude, it's a first date. Let's just chill. Let's just take it easy. Let's just ease into it. We're not going to the gym. Yeah, yeah, I know. That's why ease into it. We're not going to the gym. Yeah, yeah, I know. That's why then you start putting a bit more. And then you know you learn about them a bit, and then you can cater the second date.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Right. Okay. Come on, guys. Come on. Next on the show, silly little poll. Aren't people angrier than ever? Spoiler alert. Yes, a lot. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Silly little pole today. Do you think people are angrier than ever? What did our national leader, Christopher Luxon, say a few weeks ago? We're like wet, whiny, wimpy, moaning, internal, inbred. He said a lot of things. He said New Zealanders are blah, blah, blah. And then a couple of days later said, I wasn't talking about New Zealand. I was talking about the Labour government.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Or something. Yeah, sure. Okay. Do you think people are angrier than ever? 90% of people said yes. Yeah, I feel like. I just feel like you can't get away from it because of social media. I feel like people have always been like this.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Yeah. But now it's amplified. It's amplified. It follows you around. It's living in your pocket. Yeah. But now it's amplified. It's amplified. It follows you around. It's living in your pocket. It's hard to get away from. Like if someone disagreed with you and was not very nice about it, you could just totally avoid it.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Yeah. I just feel like it follows us around a little bit more. Also, a lot of grim news as well. A lot of doom scrolling. It's, you know, it's all the global warming. There's the war. Yeah. You just try to live your life despite the world.
Starting point is 00:31:26 You know what I mean? Yeah. You're sort of like, oh, God. Put the blinkers on. Put the blinkers on and just try to get by. It's hard because you want to know what's going on. Like, I don't like not knowing what's in the news. Oh, no, I'm not a heads down person.
Starting point is 00:31:38 I always read the news, but sometimes it's like, oof, yeah. Sometimes ignorant bliss is nice. It's bliss. For a weekend, for a long weekend away from everything. Yes, and you come back and you're like, holy moly. A weekend of ignorant bliss. That did surprise me, that poll result. Like, that's pretty bad.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Yeah. We angry. Katie said, well, people seem to not only be angry on behalf of themselves, but angry on behalf of other people lately. Yeah. People that aren't angry are offended. I love when people take offense on someone else's behalf. Yeah. Same. That's Lately. Yeah. People that aren't angry or offended. I love when people take offence on someone else's behalf. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Same. That's good stuff. Yeah. Master 12, says Kayla. That means her son who's 12 years old. Yeah. I'm angry now because she said Master 12. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:16 She could have just said my son. Yeah. Master 12, Miss 5. Called me fat and ugly because I wouldn't let him on his laptop. I said that he came out of my vagina so his chances have been the same at 50-50 and he threw a cup at me. Jesus!
Starting point is 00:32:31 Can't hit kids these days, can you? No. No, you can't. Because boy, oh boy, there's one way that has to be. That would have got me a hiding if I'd said that. That would have got me an absolute whacker. They do feel hittable. Lisa says,
Starting point is 00:32:42 I just think people think everybody's angry. They don't know how to react to somebody else's feelings, so they'll just say you're angry just because someone doesn't react how you want them to. It doesn't make them angry. Quit thinking everyone's angry. Sounds like she's angry. But then also, like, there was another story a few weeks ago
Starting point is 00:32:58 about supermarkets trialing body cams. Some of them are using body cams. Because people are being abusive. Because people are being so angry just even at the supermarket. Pandemic, eh? The pandemic made supermarkets a war zone. Dan says, I work in a call centre and I expect angry customers each time, but it's been a while and now that I
Starting point is 00:33:13 think about it, I've probably jinxed myself by even mentioning it. Yeah. You've got to kill them with kindness. In a call centre? Yeah, or just anywhere. Someone's being angry at you. Courtney says, I mean, there's nothing quite like impending climate doom, never-ending natural disasters, a pandemic, the soaring cost of living, and wild misinformation to make people angry.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Yeah. Those are all things that will fuel the anger. I live in London now, says Maria, and everyone seems angrier here. I think it's the shit weather. That's sadder. No, but it's always shit, isn't it? London is angry. It's either Melting you hot
Starting point is 00:33:45 Yeah Or Freezingly Miserable cold Just always cloudy Wet and grey Stacey said Yes me included
Starting point is 00:33:52 I've got such a Short fuse with adults At the moment I'm a teacher And still as patient As ever with the youth Of the day But holy heck
Starting point is 00:33:59 To adults F me right off Oh okay They're the worst So there you go She's angry Everybody seems to be People're the worst. So there you go. She's angry. Everybody seems to be. People are the worst.
Starting point is 00:34:07 We just need to take a breath. Do your breathing exercises. Can you breathe quieter? Maybe we should do that on the show every morning. We should call the segment The Morning Breath. Yeah. And we just go. No, because I think the silent alarms will go off.
Starting point is 00:34:20 No, they can hear us breathing. But then as you say, people will get annoyed with it. It's like the morning chew and you're just like... Oh, I was... I tried to listen to an audio book the other day, but the... Sticky mouth? Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:33 The Sticky Mouth. Deliver in the Corner Sticky Mouth Syndrome. And every time they get to an end of a sentence, just be like... I have been listening to a podcast. Like, I'm enthralled with it. Yeah. Got to the final episode.
Starting point is 00:34:44 She had sticky mouth. I could... I can't listen to a podcast if they've got a sticky mouth. But then, I'm enthralled with it. Got to the final episode, she had sticky mouth. I can't listen to a podcast without a sticky mouth. I imagine they must be, like, imagine reading a book. I've done audiobooks before. I did a Margaret May. Hey, which one was it? Took me ages to get the time. Aren't they like five pages in colour? Most of them
Starting point is 00:34:59 are pictures. Yeah, but you spend the whole time trying to get sticky mouth. Right. How do you stop? Because I'm guessing they're so dry because they keep reading. No, but you spend the whole time trying to get sticky mouth. Right. How do you stop? Because I'm guessing they're so dry because they keep reading. No, but then I think that's what anyway, I think that was a real ick. They've got active saliva glands maybe. Yeah. They're getting too much saliva.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Well, there you go. Just be nicer. Do this every morning for the hourly sticky mouth. We're a bit of a reading buzz as a group, aren't we? We're all reading. Yeah, we're trying to read a bit more. You're reading some miserable book by some old man. Cormac McCarthy, a Cathy who died recently.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Yeah. What's the book about? Give us the brief synopsis. It's the 1850s and a boy you don't know him too much more than just the kid. And his mum dies giving birth to him and he's with his dad and it's a pretty miserable existence. And he's like, I reckon I can do out there better on my own and then just wanders into just desolate wasteland.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Right. Robbs and steals and works on boats for cash and commits crimes and has crimes committed against him and and I'd score him reading. That sounds terrible. Yeah. How many stars does it have? I actually don't know what the overall... Well, you jumped into reading a book without researching,
Starting point is 00:36:13 or did you take someone's word on it? The guy died recently, and everybody was like, this guy rules, and what a storyteller, and wrote books like no other, and he wrote The Road and No Country for Old Men. This one's called Blood Meridian. Should he have written it in 1985? I'm surprised this hasn't been made into a movie,
Starting point is 00:36:31 but it would be grim watching. It sounds like it. I'm reading a book called A Visit from the Goon Squad. It's a 2010 book. Right. Very old, fun, good book that's gone quite famous. And then, anyway, so Fletch comes in this morning, sorry, Vaughn comes in this morning and says that
Starting point is 00:36:47 he's picking up reading again and loving it. And then Fletch goes, oh my God, I am loving reading as well on Audible. And we said- That is reading. That's not reading. It is reading. That's listening.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Someone reads the book to me. I'm talking, I'm talking. And that's reading. I'm reading, I not reading. It is reading. That's listening. Someone reads the book to me. I'm talking. I'm talking. And that's reading. I'm reading. I'm reading. I'm listening. I'm listening.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Tardinger. You're listening. Tardinger. You are not reading. That's not reading. That's lazy. It's being read to me. That's reading.
Starting point is 00:37:18 That's not reading. It's exactly the same as if I was reading. If you can close your eyes while you do it. I can lay there relaxed. I don't need to be focused on the book. It's, the same as if I was reading. If you can close your eyes while you do it. I can lay there relaxed. I don't need to be focused on the book. It's, oh my God, it's way better. You're not reading. I've listened to audio books before.
Starting point is 00:37:32 I don't like them. Because I don't like the voice. If the voice isn't right, I'm out. Always preview the voice. Because there was this one audio book, and every time the guy finished a sentence, he was like, on. And I was like uh oh
Starting point is 00:37:46 and I noticed it in the first sentence and then every sentence we woke up on a cool summer's morning the wind outside was just
Starting point is 00:37:55 I just feel like it was like that I've done audio books before have you you've narrated them yeah it took me so long
Starting point is 00:38:03 to get the tone like we were in there for hours until we were like, okay, now I've got the tone. Because this latest one I downloaded it and it was like 17 hours, 10 minutes. And I was like, you what? Jesus. That's a lot. I got a better way to spend my day. I just shuttled it across to like
Starting point is 00:38:17 1.3 times speed. Oh, exactly how the author meant it to be. They brought it down to like 10 hours. I was like, brilliant, I'm saving time. I don't have to flick pages. Oh my God. What is the book called? I'm not telling you.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Why are you not telling us? We told you about books. We're going to tell you what books we're reading. He's reading a depressing 1850s thing. I'm not saying what book I'm reading. I'm reading sort of a modernist, sort of strange music world thing. Yeah, I'm not telling you. What is that?
Starting point is 00:38:44 I'm not telling you. Is it it? I'm not telling you. Is it Mr. Grumpy's motor car or something? Yeah. Mr. Grumpy got in his car. Mr. Grumpy got in his car. Mr. Grumpy was grumpy because none of the drivers on the road were grumpy. I can't believe you listened at 1.3.
Starting point is 00:38:58 It is so stressful. That makes Mr. Grumpy, the Mr. Men book, go like in 30 seconds. So we have tried it before because the three of us already talk quite fast. This is genuinely my natural tempo. When you speed it up even 0.1, it's absurd.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Yeah, but that's how a lot of people are listening to podcasts and audiobooks. You just get more in, more time saved. Not you? No, I like to, because it expands the mind. Right. It's a good exercise for the brain. Good for Alzheimer's. Good for, you know, falling asleep.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Do you know what's not good for Alzheimer's? Born string bottled to set his head. That's got a good sound. It's like comically funny. I was going to do mine, but mine's mental. Doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing. So what book are you reading? I'm not telling you.
Starting point is 00:39:48 See, if you just said it, it wouldn't be. Now it's a thing. Yeah, I'm not leaving until you say it. If you just said. What? I'm not telling. Is it horny? No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:39:56 It's a horny book. It's not horny. You're a horny boy. It's not embarrassing. Are you just reading some of the classics that you haven't read? No. Just catching the ride. I'm just not going to say.
Starting point is 00:40:04 What is it? No. It's because he's not even listening to a bloody book. It's a Joy Cowley. He's listening to... It's a missus wishy-washy. And that took 17 hours to listen to. It was a lot of wishy-washy, wishy-washy.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Don't put your fingers on the faders. We're not going anywhere. Don't fade them down. You can't tell us what the book is. No, I'm not. I'm not. It's some like poppy, wishy-washy rom-com woman's book. Just no, no.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Mr. Wishy-washy. Mrs. Wishy-washy. No. Is it a Mr. Thank You? Is it? Mr. And like three pages long. Mm.
Starting point is 00:40:41 What is it? What book do you reckon he's reading? In the producer's booth. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what book I'm reading. We're running out of time. It's definitely got a neurotic bent to it. Yeah, it's sexy for sure. Is it Clan of the Cave Bears?
Starting point is 00:40:52 What? They have sex in the caves. No. I remember reading that as a kid and being like... Is that a real book? Yeah, when you said it, I was like, did you just make that up? Because I'm sure I've seen...
Starting point is 00:41:01 No, there's three books. They're a series. Clan of the Cave Bears. And I remember I was like seven years old and my best friend was like, read this. And they made Love in a Cave'm sure I've seen... No, there's three books. They're a series. Clan of the Cave Bears. And I remember I was like seven years old and my best friend was like, read this. And they made Love in a Cave and I was like...
Starting point is 00:41:08 At seven you read it. I'm probably a little bit older than that. Right. Clan of the Cave Bears. The Prehistoric Times is the first book in the Earth's Children book series. Oh my God, I've just pieced this all together why I'm so attracted to cavemen.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Your sexual awakening was Clan of the Cave Bears. Your sexual awakening of interactions between Neanderthal and modern Cro-Magnon humans. This explains a lot, Jason Momoa, your fiancé. The bit I read as a child was they have sex on a bear skin in a cave. I've read these books. You've read these books? There's nothing erotic about these books. These are children's books.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Clearly the cave bears. Yeah, they're like fiction set, kind of caveman-y times, but it's all tribal people. I think you might have read a kid's version because these are very sexy books. Unless you were just... They're not like porn books.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Unless you can't remember and you were sexying up these... No, no, no, I remember. We went into the Eastbourne Library in Lower Hutt, and we went in there, and we read it, and we were like, hee-hee. I'm just looking at the plot somewhere, and I Control-F'd to find I put skin.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Yeah. No mention of skin. No bear skin. Make him the leader. We need to do a search for horny. Love, nothing, sex, nothing. Yeah, I think we were making up these horny bears. What book does she show me?
Starting point is 00:42:25 I think Eastbourne Library might need to do a sweep. I think they need a little bit of a sweep. Play. ZDM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. I have stumbled across an article that made me go, huff, would I ever do this? Okay. There's a woman who, she got married and pregnant at 21.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I guess in these days, that would be sort of a young thing to do. All the rage like in the 60s, 50s, 60s, 70s. Oh, 18, 19, totally. Yeah. But this is right now. She got married at 21. Sorry, pregnant at 21, married to the man at 22.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Six years later at 28, they got divorced. And she said it was a classic divorce. Very typical, push and pull, lots of fighting. Amicable in that they both knew it had to happen, but it was hard, like any divorce. They thought they could fight through it and stay together. They had two kids at this point. And it was all very difficult.
Starting point is 00:43:23 I can't imagine what it's like. And it's going to happen one day for Vaughan and we really need to be there for him. You know? No, they're both too stubborn. She's going to look in the mirror one day and be like, God, Lord, I'm beautiful. Yeah, nah,
Starting point is 00:43:36 because I've been running her down for years. And you've bogged her down in paperwork. Bogged her down in admin. Yeah, she's not going anywhere. Yeah, made her unemployable. Like, made her unemployable. Like, made her unemployable. No, I truly believe that that's a real true love we're seeing there. It is.
Starting point is 00:43:52 It's beautiful love. Yeah. Hopefully it's something I never go through. I'm not married. So that's the first thing we're fighting about. Yeah, but you want to be. It just hasn't happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Ring's been on the finger for four years, but something's getting in the way. Anyway, so they've got kids, so their lives are forever entwined anyway. But, you know, there's pain there. And then recently her husband, her ex-husband, I apologise, got married
Starting point is 00:44:19 and invited her to the wedding. And she went. And people online are just like, this is bizarre and the most bizarre thing ever. But to me, that's not that bizarre. They've got kids. It's nice they get along at that level. Yeah. And they're not married and they don't love each other in that way anymore.
Starting point is 00:44:35 But they are family. You're family with the person that you have a child with, whether you like it or not. That's why you've got to think carefully about who you have children with because you're linked to them forever. You are. You are. Well, if they stick around, you are. If they run away, I'm sure it's probably for the best. You'll be IRD linked with them forever. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:44:53 But some people just find it really hard when someone they're dating is still friends with their ex. Yeah. Do you know what I like about this? You said when the final moment came where it landed within both of them that they had to get a divorce, they sat down and shook hands and said, right, we're doing it. Shook hands?
Starting point is 00:45:11 Anyway, so she said it was one of the most beautiful things. Many reasons, right? Like you want the father of your children to be the happiest version of himself that he can be so that he's a good father because he's happy and loving his life. Of course you want these things. But yeah yeah people online are either like how beautiful or like what the hell i would never invite my ex to my wedding and i want to know if you have done this have you invited your ex to your wedding have you been to your ex's wedding what was it like
Starting point is 00:45:40 also all your friends are like oh my god there's there's the ex. Totally. And there's the new wife. But if you were with him for six years and had two kids together, they'd know him as a person, not just their friend's partner. Yeah, for sure. He's in the circle then, and then if it's an amicable situation and she's not, like, bitching
Starting point is 00:46:00 him out to her friends, why would the friends be? It's very modern and I like it. Yeah, because I like it too. A lot of people just find out they're just better as friends. Totally. After being in a relationship. Yeah, you can still really like them. So why wouldn't you invite one of your best friends to your wedding? Do you know when I first got engaged
Starting point is 00:46:16 my, I won't call him my ex because it was so many years before meeting Aaron, but like my first love, he's a wedding photographer. Oh, yeah. Good Lord, he does good photos. And I was like, would it be weird to ask Ben to take my wedding photos with Aaron?
Starting point is 00:46:33 Maybe. I'm still thinking about it. Would Aaron find that weird? He's such an incredible photographer. I was like, why wouldn't you just have someone there? But then you've got to do all those like, okay, look into each other's eyes photos. And you're like, I was looking into his eyes.
Starting point is 00:46:46 That's awkward enough for the stranger. I've slept with a photographer. And I'm sleeping with this big guy now. Anyway, this is what I want to know is, did you get invited to an ex's wedding? Or did you invite your ex to your wedding? Yeah. Was it weird? Did it backfire?
Starting point is 00:47:00 Or was it all just all good? Did it backfire and they realise, seeing you in a wedding dress, that they do love you still? Okay, well, give us a call. 0800 DALS at M. You can text as well, 9696. Did you get invited or invite your ex to your wedding? We want to know this morning when you've invited an ex,
Starting point is 00:47:17 or maybe you were the ex, to your wedding. Yeah. There's a story online that's doing the rounds of this very scenario and people are confused by it. Well, people are just like, how can you do that? A lot of old feelings, they never quite go away, do they? I just saw the, well, just people, I think, are more friends. Best friends with these people.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Yeah. I just saw the photo of this couple. It's like your fiance and Jason Momoa had a love child. You saw it, I saw it. Genetically spliced. Huge. Genetically very similar. Boy. And spliced. You saw it, I saw it. Genetically spliced. Huge. Genetically very similar. Boy.
Starting point is 00:47:47 And spliced. Hair tied up, man bun optional. Some messages in. My groom invited his ex-girlfriend. I was a little bit hum-harsh about it. She showed up
Starting point is 00:47:57 to our wedding in a whitish gown and I almost lost my shit. You've broken a cardinal rule there. Even if you say friends they're troublemakers. That feels intentional.
Starting point is 00:48:05 It's not worth it. My ex showed up at my wedding, wasn't invited, but he came as a friend's plus one. It was awkward, but I did manage to forget about it and have a good night. That's on you, though, for managing your guest list. You don't just give someone a plus one. Don't give out plus ones willy-nilly.
Starting point is 00:48:19 My ex and I have always stayed best friends, so he was their front row. Somebody else said my ex was not invited to my wedding, but he dedicated the entire day to spam messaging me and all the bridal party asking for the address. Yeah, let it go, bro. You're not invited, dude. You're just literally getting married.
Starting point is 00:48:33 You're not invited, my dude. Also, you can't just cold call a wedding. No. Just turn up. Absolutely not. We'll get to more of your texts and calls. The ex 0800 dials at Amazon number 9696 to text. When did you invite an ex to your wedding?
Starting point is 00:48:50 We're talking about being invited to your ex's wedding or you inviting your ex to your wedding because a couple share this experience online of them doing it and people are finding it difficult. A bit weird. Now, Nat joins us. Nat, what was the situation at a wedding you were at? So I wasn't actually at the wedding.
Starting point is 00:49:10 It was my ex's wedding to his now wife. And my parents went to it. Hang on. Was your parents' connection with your ex simply through you? Well, I mean, originally it was simply through me. He was my university boyfriend. And probably like two years after we broke up, my mum got in touch with him because she was looking for some people
Starting point is 00:49:35 to come work for her and thought that he might have some contact. Yeah. And then he said, sure, but also I'd be keen. And so he went and worked for her. And it was like kind of his first, I guess, like big job in the real world. Right. And so he became like her protege. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Oh, my Lord. Do you have any brothers? Or was he like the son they never had? No, I do have a brother. But arguably he was still kind of the son I never had. Yeah, is your brother a bit of a dud? Lazy. Lazy bastard. Can't be the
Starting point is 00:50:11 protege. Because sometimes you hear about that, like parents, like, you know, you break up, but the parents say friends. Oh, mate, I had a breakup once and when he left, he said, I'm really sad, but I'm also really sad I'm not going to get to hang out with your parents anymore. It's like a cool family.
Starting point is 00:50:26 So I get it. Yeah. Well, I don't think my parents are that cool, but obviously he does. Girls, you've got a dud brother and not cool parents. Good Lord. They're actually all awesome. Hopefully they're not listening to this.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Otherwise, you're in trouble and your Christmas presents are going to be downgraded this year. A hundred percent. Yeah. But they didn't find it weird being there? No, I think they really enjoyed it. I mean,
Starting point is 00:50:49 it was, um, I remember one time he brought her over to, um, our annual boxing day barbecue and I was there. This was, I think before they got married. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:59 And there was this like quite kind of awkward conversation that she had with my auntie, um, where my auntie was, she asked my auntie how do you know Nat and her family and my auntie was like oh well I'm Susan's sister and then she said the same, how do you
Starting point is 00:51:18 know Nat? And she goes oh well he works for Susan and I think he and Nat knew one another at university. Knew one another. Knew each other very well. Yeah, exactly. And my auntie was like, yes, I think they did know one another.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Wow. Nat, amazing. Thanks for your call. Let's go to Lexi. Lexi, your ex was your husband's groomsman. What? Yes, that's right. And then you were the bridesmaid at his wedding, your ex's wedding.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Yeah, I was. Hang on, step back. The old switcheroo. This is classic small town stuff, the old switcheroo. Yeah, was it a small town wedding? No, no, no, we're in Auckland. Oh, okay. Wait, so hang on, you're with this person.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Which is just a small town, parading is a large city. We are. You're with this person, you, no. We're in Auckland. Oh, okay. Wait, so hang on. You're with this person. Which is just a small town parading as a large city. We are. You're with this person. You break up. Mm-hmm. Then what happens? So we dated, oh, I'd say it was 15 years ago now. So we were quite young.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Yep. We dated for nine months and it ended amicably. We were still friends, all good. And at the time, I was friends with the girl who was going to eventually become his girlfriend and his wife. Right. And the man who was going to eventually become my husband was also friends with my ex. I thought you don't sleep with your ex's friends. Your friends don't sleep with your friends' exes.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Unless they give written permission. It's okay, I think. Did you seek permission? Did all four of you seek each other's permission for this shenanigans? We were all friends, and there's plenty of years in between the dating. It just feels so much like a small town. It's not even funny. It does.
Starting point is 00:52:58 It feels like something that would happen in Geraldine or something. Very Geraldine. Wow, and so obviously it's been so long that it's not weird at all then. No, definitely not. So when my ex and my friend got engaged, he asked me to be her bridesmaid. And so when my husband and I got engaged, he asked my ex to be his groomsman
Starting point is 00:53:19 and I asked her to be one of my bridesmaids. Again, this sounds very Geraldine. Very Geraldine. Very Geraldine. You're in the Clouds Daughters. It does. You know when they can't afford too many extra people to come on as main players in the sitcom, so they just kind of like rotate through. Amazing, Lexi. Thank you. Some messages in. When you've invited an
Starting point is 00:53:38 ex to a wedding. Yes. And we'd only been broken up one and a half years, says Lucy. So I don't know if that means she invited the ex, but then there's a what the F half years, says Lucy. So I don't know if that means she invited the ex, but then there's a what the F and a screwy face. So I feel like she got invited to her ex's wedding only one and a half years after they broke up. I invited my ex and his partner to my wedding, says Jamie.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Okay. He's growing up there. Yes, he was my first boyfriend, so we broke up like 10 years ago, but we're really good friends now, and he came to my wedding. I invited my ex, his partner, her kids, and the kid they had together to our wedding. No kids at a wedding. You don't need kids at a wedding.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Oh, my God. Child-free wedding. Child-free wedding. Every single time. Unless it's your child. It's certainly not invited to love child. I wasn't invited to my parents' wedding. Me and my brother.
Starting point is 00:54:23 How old were you? Well, they had four guests. I was one. So you're like not in the top five people your parents like. Yeah, my brother was four, I was one. That's how he slapped in the face. Yeah, literally, yeah. Huge slap in the face.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I know. It really is. It still hurts. Play. ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. Hey, you on the phone, I bet I can guess your mum's name. Well, it's the return of the segment, I bet I can guess your mum's name. When we last did this a couple of weeks ago, Vaughan,
Starting point is 00:54:55 not only did you guess the mum's name correctly, but you also guessed dad's name as well. Yeah. Two from two. Shook me. And joining us this morning is Grace. Good morning, Grace. Hi there. How are you guys? Good to see you.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Amazing, Grace. Oh, for God's sake. Sorry. Oh, I'm so sorry about that. I'm so sorry about that. Oh, what was that? He said amazing. He said amazing, Grace. Yeah. I get that a lot. Yeah. So it's not original. Really? So the Vaughn didn't come up with that original job just here and now?
Starting point is 00:55:27 I'm pretty sure you've never heard it in that context before. Now, Grace, Vaughn's going to ask you five questions about your mum and then is going to have 15 seconds to try and guess her name. If he can do that, you win $100 cash. Yes. Grace, what's mum's middle name? Anne. Anne.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Sally. Sally Anne. Sally Anne. Sally Anne.? Anne. Anne. Sally. Sally Anne. Sally Anne. Sally Anne. Jessica Anne. Jessica. Patsy. Louise. My mum.
Starting point is 00:55:52 She's Patsy Anne. Oh, yeah. Okay. Right. Patsy. Is this your sister on the phone? Grace? I don't have a sister.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Grace Sproul. Or, don't you? Hayley, I'd like you to meet your sister. Oh, my God. Grace Sproul. Or, don't you? Hayley, I'd like you to meet your sister. Oh, my God. Grace Sproul. I've been pranked. Okay. That gives you a good indication of kind of the era, I guess.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yeah, I was going to say Joanne, but of course that would be Joanne. There's too many Annes. Joanne. Tracy. Tracy Anne. Tracy Anne something. Tracy Anne. Julie?
Starting point is 00:56:25 Julie Anne. Yeah, Julie Anne. No, something. Tracy Anne. Julie? Julie Anne. Yeah, Julie Anne. No, but that's Julian. Yeah. No, we could go both. Donna Anne. Nah. Donna Anne.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Nah. No, but I think. It's got to be like a. I don't think it has to rhyme. I was going to say Suzanne Anne. No, no, it doesn't, but you can't go like. Suzanne Anne. Donna Anne doesn't work because it's Donna Ann.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Like Donna Ann. Like it's Don, Don, hard, like no, and then Ann. Two different Ann sounds. Okay. It sounds like you're being very inappropriate. No, no, no, I'm not. But you would say Jennifer Ann because the N's further back. It's separated by something.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Some people just chuck it in on the birth certificate. It was probably a grandma's name or something. They thought about these things back in the day before everybody was vaping. It's the vapes. Before everybody was vaping and now on TikTok. Now a TikTok kid would call their kid Julianne Anne. Dumbass. All right. So Vanessa kid Julianne Anne. Dumbass.
Starting point is 00:57:26 All right. So Vanessa Anne. Vanessa Anne. And her last name's Anderson. Yeah. Jennifer. Jananne Anne Anderson. Joanne Anne Anderson.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Yeah. Horrible. Oh, my God. I would love to call a kid that. Joanne Anne Anderson. Okay, Grace, next question. What was mum's, like, go-to recipe if she's like, oh, you're coming over for dinner, are you, Grace, next question. What was mum's go-to recipe if she's like, oh, you're coming over for dinner, are you, Grace?
Starting point is 00:57:48 I'll whip up a... Oh, maybe like a lamb roast. Yes. Put lamb on there. Not many good meals. She's a good cook, I'm hearing. That was a bonus bit of information. Nigella.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Nigella. Alison. What about Alison? Like Alison Holst. Alison Anne. Alison Anne Smith. What about Nadia? Nadia Anne. that was a bonus bit of information yeah nigella really good yeah allison what about allison like allison holst allison ann allison and what about nadia nadia and nah too i i think it's going to be a bit of an older generation it could be a nadine which is the old white lady yeah maybe could also be a wendy yeah have you got a calf a kathy or a kim k Kathy Ann. Kathy Ann's nice. Kim Ann. I've got Kim. Oh, you've got Kim. Yeah, good.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I'll chuck a Kath. Okay. Kathy. You've got a Karen, because you always have to have a Karen. I've got a Karen. Just in case. Karen Ann. That works.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Margaret Ann. Margaret Ann. Margaret Ann. Yep, Marg. Marg. Margaret. It's like my hand and brain won't talk. I can't.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Right. My mum's middle name, Bev's middle name is Ann. Is it? Beverly. You put that down just in case. But that's the rule, is every mother has to mum's middle name, Bev's middle name is Anne. Is it? Beverly. You put that down just in case. But that's the rule, is every mother has to have the middle name Anne. Yeah. Or Elizabeth. Unless their first name is Joanne. Joanne Anne Anderson. Oh, you forget Joanne's sister
Starting point is 00:58:58 Suzanne Anne Anderson. Oh, yeah. Of course, yeah. Who left her first husband and remarried Suzanne Anne Andrews. Oh, remarried Suzanne Ann Andrews. Oh, no. Suzanne Ann Andrews. Suzanne Ann Andrews. Next question, what kind of car does mum drive? Oh, a Suzuki Swift.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Yes. Swift has got staying power. Yeah. And fuel efficiency. Actually, her new car was a Mercedes, like a real old school Mercedes. Wait, so we've got a lady, we've got a daily driver in a Suzuki Swift, but she's got like a special occasions Mercedes. Yeah, my sister has a Suzuki Swift now and mum upgraded to a classic Mercedes.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Yeah. God, you wouldn't know what hell you're going from a Suzuki Swift to a classic Merc. Yeah. Yeah, that's a V8. A classic Merc. Wow. A V8 Merc. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Oh, that's a Paula. You're right. That's a Paula move. I wrote Paula. Yeah, I saw you write that down. Who else loves a V8? Tina from Turner's.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Tina. Tina, because Tina loves cars. Doesn't actually work at Turner's. Spoiler alert. Tina Ann. Yeah, she's a comedian. I was so gutted when I found that out.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Me too. Yeah. I feel like I've been lied to my whole life. She's on the new series of Taskmaster. Is she? Yeah. Tina from Turner's. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Product placement. Is that her? Yeah. Oh, my God. It's one of those people that you see them and then you start talking about Tina's from Turner's and she's like, yeah, that's me. And you're like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Okay, next question. What are your mum's best friend's names? Oh, it was a Di in there. A Di or a Guy, like a Diana. There was a Jo, a Joanne. Yep. Joanne Ann Andrews. Joanne Ann Anderson.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Oh, I feel like I'm missing some. There was some more better ones. Okay. She's some more better ones. What does she not have friends anymore? It's off the social calendar because they all disowned her when she went from a Swift to a Mercedes. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Like that someone, Ann, is really getting ahead of herself. You don't need friends when you've got a Mercedes. Have you got Christine? No. Because Christine sounds to me like she'd drive a vintage Merc. My mum is a Christine and she wouldn't drive a vintage Merc. Yeah, that's true. But she did drive the Ford, the V8, on the farm though, didn't she, Christine?
Starting point is 01:01:23 My mum? Yeah. She's been known to handle a V8 in her time. She's not scared of power. That's what they say about Vaughan's mum. She's not scared of power. She's not scared of hitting the horses. Last question.
Starting point is 01:01:36 How old is mum? What's mum's age? 63. 63. 63, so born in 1960. Okay. Interesting, you normally go for the siblings' names, Vaughan. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And you haven't this week, which is interesting. I'm giving it a rest. Blowing that away, aren't you? Okay. Denise Ann. Denise Ann. No, that's wrong. Denise Ann.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Denise Ann. Denise Ann. Denise Ann. What car are you taking? I'm taking Denise Ann. Are you taking the Mercedes or Deniseann? All right, those are the five questions. Now, Grace Vaughan has 15 seconds to try and guess your mum's name.
Starting point is 01:02:12 If you hear your mum's name, yell out, stop, that's my mum's name. Vaughan, your time starts now. Sally, Louise, Patsy, Tracy, Julie, Vanessa, Kim, Rochelle. Wait, which one? Julie. Julie. Julie. Kim, Rochelle. Wait, which one? Julie. Julie. You said that. Julie Ann.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Julie Andrews. Julie Ann. Julie Ann is the middle name. Yeah. Julie's the first one. Oh, wow. Julie Ann. First line.
Starting point is 01:02:39 You guessed it quite early. I was like, oh. Yeah, I know. It's funny when he guesses it early and then he's still got all these questions to go. What a waste of time. Also, well done hearing someone say it out loud and not just screaming, that's the one. Yeah, I know. It's funny when he guesses it early and then you still have all these questions to go. What a waste of time. Also, well done hearing someone say it out loud and not just screaming, that's the one. Yeah, yeah. We've had that happen before.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Grace, you've triggered the bonus round. The bonus round. If you're on the phone, I'll have a go at guessing your dad's name. You've already locked in $100. He's correctly guessed your mum's name. There's only one guess allowed for the dad's name. You've already locked in $100. He's correctly guessed your mum's name. There's only one guess allowed for the dad's name. And you know what? Some people might think it's impossible, but you did it
Starting point is 01:03:11 two weeks ago. Julie. Julie and John. Julie and John. Oh, Graham. It's Graham. Julie and Steve. It's Graham. I'd put, I would put Graham on the slightly too old spectrum. Oh, Graham.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Might be a Julian Murray. It's a Steve. It's Steve. Do you go with the Beatles rule? It's John or Chris. Or Ringo. Or Ringo. Chris.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Yeah, he was in the Beatles the first week and they got rid of him. They got rid of him. Couldn't keep the drumbeat. Chris the pianist, yeah. George. Yeah. Or a book of the Bible. George and Julie.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Anne. Julie. George and Julie. No, it can't be George and Julie. I don't know if it's... I feel like it's a Murray. Jack. A Murray.
Starting point is 01:03:57 I feel like it's a Murray. I don't know why you're getting Murray vibes. I'm not getting Murray vibes at all. For me it was Graham, dude, but you go Murray. I'm thinking Steve. You're thinking Steve. Boy, you're Murray. You Murray. I'm thinking Steve. You're thinking Steve. You're Murray. You've got to lock in one.
Starting point is 01:04:08 You're locking in Murray? Yeah. Grace, what is your dad's name? Dave. Of course it's Dave. Dave, Julie and Dave. Jesus, that goes out. Dave and Julie, Julie and Dave.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Of course it is. It was a sitter. It was a sitter. It was a sitter. I'm sorry. Sorry I've let Dave down. You have. But Grace, you don't go home empty handed.
Starting point is 01:04:29 $100 is all yours for Bet I Can Guess Your Mum's Name. Congratulations. Woohoo. Thank you guys so much. You're welcome. Clay, Zed M's, Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Vaughn's out to sabotage my life. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Yet again. I'm not. Yet again. No, I'm not. I just wanted some sweet Timu crepe. Oh'm not. Yet again. I'm not. Yet again. No, I'm not. I just wanted some sweet Timu crepe. Oh, my God. But then I didn't get enough by only recruiting Hayley to get my three free gifts. Okay, I'm waiting now on three free gifts.
Starting point is 01:04:56 This was introduced to New Zealand in March, the shopping at Timu. But it's been around for a while. It's been around a while. Do you know, I've done some research. 50 million devices have this installed around the world. Wow. China's the guy that owns it, and the company that owns it,
Starting point is 01:05:13 is China's youngest self-made billionaire. So it's like an AliExpress, but, and there are warning stories, like One News had a warning story, Timu's shopping app, use it at your own risk, says expert. Yeah. Because for those that don't know how the shopping app works.
Starting point is 01:05:30 It's basically like a gaming app. It's gamified. It's gamified shopping. It's insane. You just go there and it was like, if you in the next however many minutes can earn so many points, you can get three free items. And I was like, oh, okay, how do I get my. So I had so many points banked from doing nothing, just signing up.
Starting point is 01:05:49 And then as the more people I invite, the more points I get, but the more people I invite, every time I get less points for inviting the next person. Yes. So I'm in the same point that you are now, just to jump forward on my Teemu journey. And I need someone to join.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Don't look at me. I need someone to join. Don't look at me. I need someone to join so I can get six free gifts, including a vacuum robot. Yeah, I've got a robot vacuum on my list of things to do. A shower speaker. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:17 And some lunch package things. But I've invited everyone that I'm happy to invite, which is everyone on this show. Okay. Now one of you needs to accept. It's a little embarrassing, right? To be like reaching out to people outside this group
Starting point is 01:06:32 that we can laugh about it. To be like, hey, why don't you join Timu with me? Vaughn invited me to get some coins so he can get some free items, right? And I happily accepted because he knows that I'm a shopper and I won't be stoppered. Yeah. So I went on and from joining,
Starting point is 01:06:47 you order 10 items and you get six for free. Now I hear the scam coming out of my voice. I hear it. I hear that I'm spending more money than I need to, but I'm not going to say no to six free items. So I've added them to my cart and I bought them and I got a free massage gun and a free this and a free car vacuum.
Starting point is 01:07:04 And now I want more free things. Well, and that's the thing. A lot of people aren't comfortable with this business model that you're having to. It is insane. It is like a game. It doesn't feel real. Like I haven't paid for a single thing. But I've got all these half filled out gift card discount box things.
Starting point is 01:07:21 You will not get them without paying for them. Have you spent money yet? No. On it? No. I have. Oh for them. Have you spent money yet? No. On it? No. I have. Oh my God. I've spent a little bit.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Okay, well, what did you get for your free gifts? Okay. Can you, what, so. Okay, out of my order of 10. Wait, so you sign up and you got 10 free gifts? No, no, no, you sign up, you order 10 things. Yeah. And you get.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Seven for free. Seven for free. And you pay for three of them. Right. But the first one you select is guaranteed to be free. So I did the most expensive one. I've got a free massage gun. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I love my massage gun. Because I broke mine. Yeah, but. But. Then I got a free spoon that weighs what it's on it. That's a great. That's a good kitchen. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:08:02 So you can be like. Don't laugh. You asked me. Okay. I got a free. Oh can be like. Don't laugh. You asked me. Okay. I got a free. Oh my God, I need this. Sorry to interrupt. I need this.
Starting point is 01:08:10 You wrap it around your tap and any water that splashes around your tap, it's gravity's into the sink. Aesthetically, that's fog. That you can't have that. But it's black. That's so bad. No, you can't have that. Maybe just when we're doing the dishes.
Starting point is 01:08:21 No, you can't have that. Okay. I got a free wireless car vacuum cleaner. Oh, yeah, we had one of those. I broke it. That's the one you broke. I'm receiving a free back stretcher. You know, the ones that like anti-punch.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Oh, yeah, you lie on the ground in it. Because I do that all the time. I just put something under and crack my back. I got a free car trash can because my car is a trash can. I got a free sunset light thing. And I got a free sleep mask with Bluetooth in the ears. So it's flat and it goes against your ears and you can listen to white noise, but you can still roll around without having big headphones stabbing you in the ear.
Starting point is 01:08:58 So I paid for three items, which came to $60. $60? Yeah. For 10 items. None of what you just said could be... I'm sorry. ...cost more?
Starting point is 01:09:07 How are you making a massage gun, electric scale... Electric scale spoon. Oh my God. And the items they paid for are a full yoga bodysuit, size large.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Do you know Timu had an ad in the Super Bowl? The last Super Bowl. Did it? That's how insane Timu is around the world and how much money they're making. Yeah. But yeah, people are really addicted to this. So be careful.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Can you, Fletch, can you just join? No. Just join and then I can get my free gifts and I'll be out. What is that Arbonne or it's like those schemes. Yeah, pyramid scheme. It's not pyramid though, right? No, but I need to hook you in.
Starting point is 01:09:47 But it kind of is because the idea is I invite you and all the people I know and I get points for that but then you can also earn points but then you don't earn
Starting point is 01:09:54 me any points. So that's where the pyramid stops. It's just like layered. Yeah, right. Okay. Multi-level marketing? Hooking all of your friends into this.
Starting point is 01:10:02 Just join and then I'll get my things. No. Shannon, just join. Carwin. No. Jared. Can friends into this. Just join and then I'll get my things. No. Shannon, just join. Karwin. No. Jared. Can you hear yourself?
Starting point is 01:10:09 Just join and I can get a free set of silicon food holders. You need it to be silicon because it is both heat and frost resistant. Listen to yourself. Thank you, Vaughan. Yeah. Straight from the fridge to the microwave. Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan. Yeah. Straight from the fridge to the microwave. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Play ZM.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day is about lukewarm. The term lukewarm, if something's lukewarm. Luke. I just imagine it was a guy called Luke. Was it a bit near the end of there? It was a bit like, uh. And he put his finger in some water and he's like, perfect. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Just one finger and I said it. Perfect for me, Luke. Perfect for me. I neither like it hot nor cold. Yep. And I am neither happy nor sad. I'm just kind of like Luke warm. Old Luke warm.
Starting point is 01:11:16 No, it looks to be, it's kind of debated, but it looks to be it comes from the Dutch word luuk, meaning tempered or weak. Oh, yeah. So luuk, meaning tepid or weak. So luukwarm is kind of saying warm, warm. Is that what the name luuk means? Luuk. No, luuk is a Dutch word. L-E-U-K.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Yeah. So middle Dutch or old Frisians, which is where cows talk to each other in a sort of a Dutch language, but luuk meant tepid or weak. So Lukewarm. It's tepid water. It's tepid water.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Right. It's kind of like, so you would say it's Lukewarm. So you're basically saying it's warm, warm. Warm. Yeah, right, because Luke means right. Yeah, and then that was the first one. It was done on temperature, and then you would say somebody was neither hot nor cold on you.
Starting point is 01:12:05 On an idea, you'd be like, I'm a bit lukewarm on this idea of going away. Yeah. You know. I'm a bit luke. Yeah. And then it was in the Bible. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I wish you were. I've got my favorite book. I wish you were. Well, it's a very old book, you see, and the best part about it, it's been translated and changed throughout history so much they can kind of trace words back through it. But it basically translates to, I wish you were hot or cold,
Starting point is 01:12:30 so because you are lukewarm and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you off my mouth. Oh, jeez. Spit you off my mouth. So if your reception to me is hot, I like that. We're friends. If it's cold, I know where we stand. If it's lukewarm, you're a little confusing and I want you out of it by drinking a lukewarm tea
Starting point is 01:12:47 you're like or a refreshing drink you want a hot drink or a cold drink you don't want a lukewarm sometimes a lukewarm tea or a coffee I'll just give it 20 seconds
Starting point is 01:12:54 in the micro RV I will tip it out and just make a new one really it's so wasteful yeah sometimes I think I want a coffee in the afternoon
Starting point is 01:13:02 and I make one and I have two sips and I'm like no it wasn't what I wanted yeah tip it out and then what do you have and I do feel wasteful a bit of water I think I want a coffee in the afternoon and I make one and I have two sips and I'm like, no, it wasn't what I wanted. Yeah. Tip it out. And then what do you have? And I do feel wasteful.
Starting point is 01:13:07 A bit of water. I think I just have some water. Maybe a piece of fruit. Right. Okay. Maybe a piece of fruit was what I wanted. Okay. But I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Yeah. So today's fact of the day is lukewarm. Isn't a slant on anyone called Luke, although they're always good. It's actually pretty much saying Someone's kind of a warm warm Warm warm Fact of the day Day day day day
Starting point is 01:13:34 I'm a big fan of teeth whitening. I get my teeth whitened at a place. I love it. It's great. Have they seen it afterwards of the show? No, this place I go lovely smiles. Shout out to JJ. He's...
Starting point is 01:13:59 JJ Feeney. No, not JJ Feeney. Scandal Queenie. She's not doing teeth whitening. It's JJ... JJ Moofie. Another... JJ Tooth Decay. Whiting Toofie. She's not doing teeth winding. It's JJ... JJ Murphy. Another... JJ Tooth Decay.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Whiting Toofy. Yeah, yeah. There you go. Right. But it doesn't hurt. Because I got it done ages ago and it was hydrogen peroxide. Yeah, and it hurts to shit. And the next day...
Starting point is 01:14:17 Sorry. I had to put stuff on my... Just absolutely swore like a devil. I apologise. But it does. It hurts. It hurts, yeah. Yeah, it hurts.
Starting point is 01:14:24 And you breathe and the wind like blows on you and you're like, take me now. I wasn't allowed like coffee or any stainy foods. You know, I love my... You love a stainy. I love my stainy foods, my curries. Mashed potato. You're not allowed any of that for like two or three days?
Starting point is 01:14:37 Yeah, it sucks. And so I was like, teeth whitening isn't for me. Yeah, and then so you know how recently I was filming The Great Kiwi Bake Off? Yes. I didn't have time to go see my dude. Didn't have time to go visit JJ Queenie. JJ Moofie. Toothy Queenie.
Starting point is 01:14:50 JJ Moofie. Whitey Toothy. Whitey Toothy. Yeah. And then you would have received this advertising, everyone listening, the purple high-smile Australian thing. And so I was like, screw it.
Starting point is 01:15:06 And then they sell it at a pharmacy and I bought it. And of course you bought it. Because I'm a sucker. And I've tried it, but I thought we could try it on here because... Wait, so you've got three toothbrushes. Yes, and I'll use the clear one because I just pulled a hair out of it and it was sort of short. I don't want to say it's a pear, but...
Starting point is 01:15:26 Okay, were these in plastic bags? Yeah, they were in little plastic bags. Okay, okay, right, right. I'm lazy, don't worry. Right, okay. Yuck! Anyway, so I'm going to put a little... What you do is you...
Starting point is 01:15:38 Okay, so can you explain for those that haven't seen the ads? It's like blonde shampoo. The purple neutralizes the yellow. If you've got any yellowing on your teeth, this purple provides a temporary situation, a solution where it whitens it a little bit. So it's not saying it's permanent. Because my manky teeth have got a little bit of stain from coffee and stuff.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Yeah, no, but they're not like, I wouldn't say any of us, like my teeth are usually white. I've been looking at them recently and been like, oh, what happened? But none of us have like super stained teeth. But it's the same, I wouldn't say any of us, like my teeth are usually white. I've been looking at them recently and been like, ew, what happened? But none of us have like super stained teeth. But it's the same because I use purple shampoo because I'm going back to my blonde life because it's my best life.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Yeah. And it takes out the brassy tones in your hair and makes it cooler. Right. So it's the same theory. So what happened when you used this when you were filming the television show Bake Off? Well, I thought it just made my lips purple
Starting point is 01:16:22 and my teeth look grey for about 30 minutes and then they went back to being boring and yellow. Yeah, that's the thing. So it's just going to purple my lips. So all the people that are in the little ad using it are young and they say the minute you get to a certain age, your teeth have grey in them. Right. And it doesn't neutralise the grey. Excuse me, I'm young.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Yeah, but this guy was like, he was so young he had a little weird little moustache. It looks black. This looks like you've put, what was that paint that you had in school for art? Oh, ink. The ink stuff that weird little moustache. It looks glass, okay. This looks like you've put, what was that paint that you had in school for art? Oh, ink. The ink stuff that you'd roll. It looks. You've got a glass.
Starting point is 01:16:51 We need to do a before and an after. Ooh, this is, okay. Because this toothpaste isn't cheap either. You've done. I went over the comment section and people were saying it was just trash. Hayley Janesprout. No water. How much did you spend on this?
Starting point is 01:17:02 I don't even remember. No water. So we now brush our teeth. So you do it for about 40 seconds. Yep. Raw dog. No water. Raw dog.
Starting point is 01:17:11 And then, yeah, go in there. Oh, my teeth. It looks like we're eating a white, a... A kind of Louis. Yeah. Really good in there. Like, already, if you look right, they look kind of white against the purple. What's that honey?
Starting point is 01:17:35 That is so good. So good. We got that from munching on a Barney, the dinosaur. Does it matter if I brush it in or does it just matter that it's on the teeth? No, brush it in. Yeah, it's not getting through the teeth this must be amazing radio oh yeah listening to three people brush your teeth oh yeah if we would asmr you've got purple lips okay oh god i got a meeting after this okay take a swig of water swirl it it all around, spit it out. Back under the water. Mm-hmm. Mm.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Mm. Okay. Hair. Did it work? I think your teeth just look grey. Do mine just look grey? They just look grey. It just looks like you've got purple gums. Okay, go do another swish.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Okay. Mm-mm-mm-mm. Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mm. I mean Nah it just looks like we've brushed our mouth With purple paste Does it look vawny? We don't want to hear you spinning that out It just seems to me
Starting point is 01:18:38 That you've just got like remnants Of purple That's what I mean I think it's absolute BS. I think it's... Oh, Harry, he believes it. Of course he does. He believes the hype.
Starting point is 01:18:50 I think my teeth still look a bit yellowy. And my lips are purple. Yeah, you talk of before and after. What does it look like in your photo? Yeah. Yeah, nah, nothing. Now it's got purple lips. Now, Hayley Jane Sproul, how much did you spend on this crap?
Starting point is 01:19:10 I mean, I will say this isn't a scientific experiment that we've just done, but I don't see any great difference. Yeah, let me have a little lucky pro. Are you meant to use this for days on end for it to work, or is it just a once? $40. $40. Currently on.
Starting point is 01:19:25 It was 29 Australian, not including postage, when I got served the targeted ad. We could have gone out for a happy hour at the cocktail place at the Mexican down the road for $10 cocktails. That would have made your teeth white. And we would have got four cocktails and we would have had kind of red teeth. I can't hear a word you're saying.
Starting point is 01:19:43 I'm absolutely bewildered by your sparkling white teeth. Absolute hurly-whiters. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Guys, you won't believe. How long people on the apps are spending swiping. Well, you, a few... Oh, I could absolutely do it forever. A few weekends ago,
Starting point is 01:19:59 a few weekends ago, you got to play with your friend's Tinder. Yeah. And I love how excited you get. That would quickly wear off if you were single for any more than a week. Do you think you would have enjoyed it if the stakes were you need love because you're so alone? Maybe. And you'd been looking for someone for so long.
Starting point is 01:20:18 Oh, not... Yeah. You know what I mean? The thrill of the chase, but you've got to have a... Do you know what they need? You've got to have an antelope at the end of it, you know? Do you know what they need to do? And I know you'reelope at the end of it, you know? Do you know what they need to do? And I know you're about to tell us how long people spend swiping.
Starting point is 01:20:28 I am. Spoiler alert. It's going to be a lot, but they need to fuse dating apps and Teemu together. Yeah, we're all obsessed with Teemu. So you swipe for five minutes and you get a super like. Yeah, yeah. So it encourages you to spend more time on the app.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Or maybe a potential dating app that could join up and then you get some points and then you get more shopping? I don't know. They probably do that because you know Singles Day in China is one of the biggest retail holidays. So they set it up in competition to Valentine's Day where you buy something for your
Starting point is 01:21:00 partner obviously but singles don't get it. So on Singles Day, which is the 11th of the 11th? I think the 11th of the 11th I think 11th of November yes it is 11-11 is this massive retail day
Starting point is 01:21:09 where you buy yourself something oh my god if you're single oh my god that's just Hayley's life every day she's a single life every second day
Starting point is 01:21:16 that's called engagement day every day not anymore I've been told well I don't know if this number then is going to surprise us or not
Starting point is 01:21:24 it's an hour a day. Okay. But if you take away your sleeping hours, take away eight, so then we're down to 16 hours, right? Alive. Yeah. You've got eight hours at work. They reckon you should spend eight at work.
Starting point is 01:21:38 I think that's a lot. Oh, my gosh. That's far too many. If you are doing that, try career and rest. I just Googled, when are the busiest swiping times? I don't know if you have research on this. Thursday, 7 o'clock. 7 till 10 p.m.
Starting point is 01:21:53 On? But this is on Bumble. So you want the day. This is going on. I mean, what day of the week? On traffic time. But I know there's that Thursday dating app that only lets you sort out dates on a Thursday. But yeah, probably is. And probably Sunday as well. only lets you sort out dates on a Thursday. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:22:05 probably is. And probably Sunday as well. Well, here's a bunch of information, a bunch of stats, a study done by Bumble. Nope, not done by Bumble.
Starting point is 01:22:16 Done by psychologists. Even better. Yeah. 70% of people are left feeling depressed and anxious after an hour of swiping. So no different than any other social media like Instagram, Facebook or yeah. Exactly. On average
Starting point is 01:22:29 55 minutes swiping each day. 39% of people check Tinder or Bumble, Hinge, all of them as soon as they wake up in the morning. While 48% swipe just before bedtime. So in bed. I can see why it would be a nice bedtime activity.
Starting point is 01:22:47 Yeah, and if you see a hottie, you know, just go with the flow, see what happens. You know, just see what happens. Yeah, but also... For visual stimulation. Next photo, next photo. Also, if it's just making people depressed, do you want that to be the thing you do right before you go to sleep and then think about while you're going to sleep?
Starting point is 01:23:02 Is it the thing you want to do when you start your day? Yeah, and then you're starting your day bad and ending it bad. 44%. Don't you guys get a negative mindset? What?
Starting point is 01:23:11 No, we're saying don't start your day in a negative mindset. I'm saying, wouldn't it be better to do it mid-afternoon or at least a few hours before bed?
Starting point is 01:23:18 Every time to swipe is just the potential soulmate connection for a bit there. Oh, yeah. Unlike that time Hayley lost her friend's future husband
Starting point is 01:23:26 by swiping the wrong way swiped the wrong way one in ten have uh lied about having kids and five percent of people have admitted to not being single dating apps
Starting point is 01:23:37 he's got a kid but he's like he always puts that he does because you have to the ladies love a daddy what they he doesn't have a kid
Starting point is 01:23:43 or he does no he does have a kid oh right but he's always like he said a lot of guys he knows with kids that are back out in the dating world are like, oh no, I don't put that on my father and then that's something I'll tell them later on. And he's like, oh no, no. Yeah, right. They've got to know daddy's a daddy from...
Starting point is 01:23:54 Should I pretend to have a kid? Yes. Yes. I get this because I don't want a kid and I also don't really want to be a stepmom to someone else's kid. But for some reason, when I see a hot daddy with a kid, I'm like far out, man. Like he's doting, he's committed, he doesn't run. Or he could just have a photo with his cute kid
Starting point is 01:24:15 and he doesn't pay any child support and he's an absent father. He could be a real piece. How hot is this person? Well, now he's a bad boy, so. Now he's a bad boy, I'm hooked back in. He's a bad boy, daddy. Okay, if you had to rate, review or marry Fletch, Vaughn or Hayley, what one would it be? Okay, I would marry Hayley.
Starting point is 01:24:35 I would have sex... Wait, which one is it? No, no, no, no. It's only rate, review, marry. Oh, okay. No comment. I could have sex with the podcast. I don't know how that would work. Give us a sexy little no, no. It's only rate, review, marry. Oh, okay. No comment. I could have sex with the podcast. I don't know how that would work.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Give us a sexy little review, though.

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