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Hello, good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch Vaughan and Hayley.
Hello.
Oh, we've got a special guest in, so nice and early.
Yeah, dear friend. We've got her early because you never know with Morgan.
She's up at the sun.
Yeah, she does like to get up.
She's got a real cicada rhythm.
She needs to sun her bits. Yes, and she's
a cicada. Well, she likes to earth her bits
as well. That's right. Earth, sun, water,
wind, heart, her bits.
I'll keep them. This is
somatic sexologist Morgan Penn, who
you did the podcast with. I sure did.
Well, she did the podcast with me. It depends on
which way you look at it. Yeah, sex, not life.
By the way, all the episodes out now, so you can binge that.
Binge, binge, binge.
I know you guys did a Q&A to end the wild ride that was that podcast.
We did.
But we asked you if you had any questions for Morgan,
and this was actually quite a popular question.
Yeah, people asking how to manage your libido
if you're on some kind of medication, an antidepressant, a birth control.
Huge impact on libido.
So maybe Morgan can give us some tips on how to keep the spice alive.
Yeah, she's in this morning before 7 on the show.
But first up, I have the things to remove from your bedroom
to get a better night's sleep.
Like a jackhammer.
Yep.
Yep.
Remove that.
A diesel generator.
Yep.
You boys got it. You can remove that. A wild coyote. Just simpler things. Bark. Yep. Remove that. A diesel generator. Yep. You boys got it.
You can remove that. Wild coyote. Just simpler
things. Barking dogs. Yeah, get rid
of that. Simple. Yeah, well,
dogs is actually on the list.
Play.
ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley.
Are you in need of a better sleep?
Tired of waking up and feeling
groggy and like you haven't slept at all?
Well, boy, do I have a list for you.
Join me as I go through the five things you should remove from your bedroom for a better night's sleep.
Oh.
Dog.
Yes, pets.
Is one of them your annoying snoring partner?
Partner's not on it.
Don't embrace your loneliness.
Okay, I won't put them in any order because you've got the first one. Pets, get them gone. Oh, see. partner's not on it don't embrace your loneliness okay I will start
I won't put them in any order
because you've got the first one
pets get them gone
oh see
now I don't
it's
yeah I don't agree
my heart is not full
yeah
my heart is not full
if Rolly is not like
down by our feet
or between us
well Major Murray
likes to snuggle up
on my arm
or right next to me
on my pillow
it's real cute
oh look at that
furrowed brow
across from me
born
oh he's an anti-pets in the room I'd even like the dog sleeping in the garage right next to me on my pillow. It's real cute. Look at that furrowed brow across from me, Bourne.
Oh, he's an anti-pets in the room.
I don't even like the dogs sleeping in the garage anymore.
Where do you want them sleeping?
Because they make such a mess.
I'm storing a couch in your garage at the moment.
Can you not have them sleep on there?
No, I unboxed it.
That's what they're sleeping on.
No, please put it back in the box.
I didn't ask you to unbox it.
I was like, oh, this old outdoor furniture is not that comfortable.
I'll unbox Hayley's couch.
I put a towel down.
Oh, it's so expensive.
They have treated a couple of pillows.
No, but I don't even like.
They make a bloody mess.
Kennels, yes. Get some kennels.
Yes, kennels, yes.
But not a kennel.
Build them their own little house.
You know how rich people build little mini homes.
With AC.
Yeah.
I wish when you, because you had a playhouse removed from yours,
it would have been the perfect two-dog dog kennel
and I could have put some nice windows in it, some pink bats,
insulated up.
Now some dumb neighbourhood children are happy playing in it.
Where's my house?
But then I saw one on a Facebook marketplace,
but it's like you need a high-abdiluted.
I was like, I don't need another project like that right now.
But I would like to get the dogs their own area
because then you can do things like get those little warmie blankets.
Have you ever seen these?
They charge off like a solar panel.
And they're minimal to no power required
because dogs don't want to be too hot.
And then there's no dog on your bed.
You get a good night's sleep.
Alongside no dog on the bed.
Babies.
No old
yeah.
Old people?
Each to their own.
No old people.
That's going to work
for Charlie
and the Chocolate Factory.
Pillows.
No old pillows.
Really?
Why old?
Yeah.
The more the older
their fibres come apart
which makes them
more likely to absorb
and retain sweat oils
and dead skin cells
from your face and hair.
Which is more likely to make you sick.
Do you know what I did the other day?
I washed the pillowcase protector that's on the actual pillow.
You've got those too.
I need to wash mine.
Did you wash that on the body pillow?
Because the body pillow's got one of those.
I did, yeah.
I did all of them.
And then put on some nappy sand and all white.
Oh, I can't do that.
Because you know they get like...
They get the dry humpstones out?
Yeah, what's that like yellow,
what are the yellow stains on pillows?
Yeah.
It's just sweat and grease and stuff.
Which is crazy because I shower
before I go to bed every night,
but I still leave over time.
And there's a pillowcase on top.
Like how do they get yellow and manky?
I don't know.
It sneaks through you see.
Have you ever been at a hotel or a motel
and you've seen under the pillowcase?
Dude.
Don't do it.
Or like when you go to put your hand like near it
but it slips into the pillowcase by mistake
and you feel the like pilled inner and you're like.
Yeah.
Okay, no old pillows, no pets.
Okay, so these are the things that you should get out of your room
for a good night's sleep.
General clutter is one.
Bad for the headspace.
Often takes away the idea of your room being calming in a sanctuary.
Fine, I'll clean up the floor drobe then.
Well, your room is very minimal in general.
Yeah, I like to keep it clean.
Not too much there.
Another one, get out.
Mobile phone.
I love my phone in bed.
I can see why.
Distracting and the light keeps people awake.
You've got it.
Don't do it.
They don't want it.
Even if they say if you've got it and you use it as your alarm,
you need to get a bedside alarm.
Okay.
Those pump out a fair bit of light.
Yeah, they do.
Yeah.
I always turn them over at a hotel or unplug them.
Flip it down, same.
I hate light in the room.
That reminds me, I've got it right on my hand because my bloody children have turned their one on.
They flipped the alarm switch when the power went off last night
and it came back on.
They switched it and so alarm went default on.
But of course default alarm is midnight.
Which is truly the dumbest thing that they do.
Yeah.
Number one thing to remove from your bedroom for a better night's sleep
is anything relating
to your workspace.
So if you've got a desk in there
and you've got a laptop,
you've got worksheets.
Sometimes I do this.
I'm tired.
I'll jump into bed
and I'll be like,
I'm just going to do
a little bit of work.
Yeah.
No.
Kills you.
Not only kills your ability
to sleep,
but also your ability
to get sexy.
I hardly do work at work.
It seems insane
to do it in your
most precious space.
I've just seen an article
regarding penis amnesia.
Okay.
Penis amnesia.
Yeah.
Most people can't remember
a single penis they've seen
in any sort of detail
other than the fact
it was a penis.
I mean,
I'm just literally
sending it to my wife
saying,
do you reckon you could
pick mine in a line up?
But surely it's different if you were like
if I think about any other person that I've ever slept with
I would never
in a thousand years would I remember it.
Whether I was with him for a long time or just a short time.
You can remember the face. Face, experience
kissing maybe.
Yeah. Not the penis.
I don't even know
if I'd be able to pick out errands.
That's what this thing said.
But you've been with him for years.
Are you kidding?
I need to go home and study it.
Yeah.
That's like some quotes.
Somebody said, I don't even think I could picture my current boyfriends.
Really?
Yeah.
Combined sexual arousal, stress, anxiety, poor sleep, and alcohol together,
you've got the perfect recipe for penis amnesia.
Right. In 2015, a report into a woman's preferences found Together, you've got the perfect recipe for penis amnesia. Right.
In 2015, a report into a woman's preferences found that a significant...
Hold on, I didn't read this one.
Yeah, slow down, slow down.
He has it right ahead, which with this kind of material is a little dodgy.
It is pretty essential.
Okay, 2015 report into a woman's preferences found that a significant number of women
not only forgot what size penises were after 10 minutes,
they tended to slightly underestimate the length of penis models after a
recall delay. Oh my gosh, sorry.
Penises were recalled? Yeah.
What?
Well, because friend of the show,
Morgan Sexologist, she
because I was like, I wonder if it would be
the other way around, but I feel like
vulvas have more
defining features
or am I wrong?
Is Volvo amnesia a thing?
I always forget
where I park mine.
No that's a Volvo.
Oh we're not talking
about Volvos.
No.
But there's like
great safety in those cars though.
Yeah.
There's a website
that is a friend of Morgan's
and she does
the Volvo gallery
which is like this awesome
yeah the girlies night.
I think she talked about it on the podcast.
Yeah, and she posed for one of them.
And she was like, I wonder if I'd even be able to pick out mine.
And then I just opened it and a whole lot of vulvas came up.
And I'm very comfortable with a barrette work.
And we've got a big window behind us.
And I literally scrolled and was like, woo!
Vulva glores.
But I know that Morgan's is in here.
But she hasn't told you which one.
No, I know some of her defining features.
Very little changes in the appearance of the vulva.
Whereas the males.
Well, no, no, it changes, but not like as drastically as the penis
through stages of like, no, this is just like within the period of love.
I thought you meant each vulva from woman to woman.
I was like, extremely different.
But, you know, like from the start of, what are the kids calling it now?
Hooking it up.
What?
It's a big no from Shannon.
From the start of hooking it up.
What do you call it?
What do you call it when you're going to get down to business?
Oh, wait, wait, wait.
As the kids say, when you're about to get down to business.
When you're about to have a bit of booty patooties.
When you're about to be a baddie.
I'm like, can you stop?
You would just say, like, have a root.
We're going back!
We have some decorum!
Oh, my God, we're going back!
Shanna!
That's what we used to call it in the 90s.
That's what it was in the early 2000s.
People see Woolies in different stages throughout the...
What was it?
Getting ready to have a root.
Also, your watch is telling us we're in a loud environment.
Because I was not expecting the R word to come out.
No.
It also thinks I've had a fall.
Apologise to listeners.
I'm excited.
Do you, producers in the booth, do you agree about penis amnesia?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so fully.
But could you pick your own boyfriends out of the line-up?
Do you think so fully or just semi-believer?
You couldn't.
I don't think so.
What if there were 10?
You couldn't?
Yeah, I think I could if there were 10 and there was groin.
What, was it just that long?
Is he quite puby?
No, no, he keeps himself nice and trim.
Okay, okay.
How specific is the photo?
What are we seeing?
It would be a full frontal of, say...
What do you want to see underneath?
The same of the vulva.
Yeah.
She wants to see all of it.
I can spot his anus and tell you what.
Turns out the average person spends...
This is in New York.
Yeah.
But, I mean, what is New Zealand,
if not New York of the South Pacific?
Well, we're both new.
We were with brands back in New York.
Yeah, we're new. You're both right. back in New York. Yeah, we're new.
You're both right.
Ask Papa New Guinea.
Yeah.
That, N-Y, we're N-Z.
We're the next in the alphabet.
Yeah, after New York.
And Newfoundland.
The average employee spends 50 hours a year purchasing beverages at the cafe.
Okay.
It takes them 16 minutes to leave their desk, buy a drink, and return.
Three such trips a week.
Three.
Round up.
Employees end up losing an entire work of productivity per year,
but you cannot.
What do you mean an entire day?
An entire week.
An entire week.
Yeah, 50 hours a year, so over a week's worth of paid employment.
Which, as someone that loves slacking off and finding a loophole,
fantastic.
And also, it's fresh air.
Chuck a poop in there.
Yeah.
You've got another week left.
Chuck a poop in there. Not in your coffee. Don't put a poop in fresh air. Chuck a poop in there. Yeah. You've got another week off. Chuck a poop in there.
Not in your coffee.
Don't put a poop in the coffee.
Chuck a poop in your daily schedule.
But it's hard for us because we work on the schedule of the songs and the ads.
Yeah.
So we can't take, you know, when we're off air, we can basically do what we want.
Yeah, we've got an intense like three hours of on air.
Yes.
And, you know, before and after.
But it's not a whole work day where, like, you get to 3 o'clock
and you're like.
We do all sorts.
Maybe I'll go for a half an hour coffee break,
which I would totally do.
Get out, stretch your legs.
I might start doing that at 8 o'clock.
No.
No.
It's taking a half hour at 8.
If we're breaking the show into thirds and it's the last third
of the working day, I might take a.
Back for fact of the day.
Yeah.
Did they in the study, did they look at how much smokers get?
Because don't smokers get the same...
Yes, I was going to say this.
One of the main reasons I took my smoking when I was 18, 19,
from social to full time,
was because I started working in a retail store
and all the managers and shop people smoked.
And I was like, well, I enjoy a cigarette
when I have a little drinky poo.
I'll just start going out and having bigger breaks.
And any time, so you'd have your allocated...
So wait, you would smoke
just to get out of the store? No, well, I
was sort of like, it was fun. I would hang out.
There was a construction site opposite us and then we
used to perv on them. And then one of our girls married one of them.
How about that?
What? It was so beautiful. We used to
perv on them and then one of them would perv back.
Did she get cat called? Yeah.
And we were like, ah, Janine!
And then
he came over to the shop
one day and was like, where's the blondie? And we were like
blondie! And then blondie came out and now they're married
and they have two kids. It's so nice. What a
modern day Wellington retail love
story. But that was all thanks to the Durries.
No, I'm not encouraging
your analogue cigarettes.
This study didn't look into smoking
because much like the show,
it was sponsored by a coffee outlet.
Oh, yes.
The show, McCafe.
Well, that's what I was going to say.
If people want to take time out of their busy work week,
three, four, five times a week to walk to,
show sponsor McCafe.
Yeah.
Or drive. Or drive, yeah, exactly. I can a week to walk to show sponsor McCafe. Yeah. Or drive.
Or drive.
Yeah, exactly.
I can say download the My Mac has happened and rewards on your coffee.
Show sponsor.
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Show sponsor.
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That was for free as well.
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From the self-driving ZM think tank, this is the top six.
Hello there.
Today's top six dealing with Miss Universe because today in 1952,
the first Miss Universe pageant was held.
Wow.
And Ami Krusella from Finland Won the title Of Miss Universe
And she's still alive
An army what?
Her name is
Army
Oh
Crusader
I thought you meant
Like an army crusader
She's an army crusader
From Finland
Charged in
Guns are blazing
Wow
And I won the title
She's still alive
She's the same age
As my nan
Really?
Yeah they were born
In the same year
1934
Is there a photo Of her in her winning year Like I imagine She's still alive. She's the same age as my nan. Really? Yeah, they were born in the same year, 1934.
Is there a photo of her in her winning year?
Like, I imagine she's, like, blonde and leggy.
Because they're very tall.
It's like she looks like a 1950s, like, post-World War II pinup babe.
Yeah, okay.
Really smiley, blonde hair.
It's a black and white photo.
How do you know?
That she's blonde?
Yeah, it could be ginger. Oh, no, it's not ginger.
No, it's her energy.
And she's from Finland. It was a little bit of an assumption
on my part. Yes, yes.
So I've got the top six questions
posed to Miss Universe in 1952
that old people probably still ask their
grandkids today.
Number six on the list. Are those hips
capable of bearing children?
Wow.
A great question
for a line-up in 1952
and also what your grandparents
still ask you today.
At Christmas, yep.
Such a shame, Hayley,
that you're not having children.
Look at those hips.
They have not said that,
have they?
No one said it to me.
No.
Number five on the list
of the top six questions
posted Miss Universe in 1952
that old people probably still ask their grandkids today.
What's your favourite dish
to cook a man to keep him happy?
Yeah. Meatloaf.
What a great answer, Hayley.
A real shame you're not married with those childbearing
hips and that meatloaf recipe.
Just waiting for the right man.
Good on you for being picky, but don't wait
too long. Tick tock, tick tock.
I'm 22.
Number four on the list of the top six questions posted Miss Universe in 1952
that old people probably still ask their grandkids today.
Can you iron a shirt?
I mean, it's a hard skill to learn.
It's a good, but once you're there, put it over there, you can't flitch.
Well, no, normally.
You wouldn't have won this universe.
When we were at a wedding recently, James, our friend, had to iron all the shirts.
Yeah.
No, he didn't iron my shirt.
I'm very capable of ironing my own shirt.
He would have if you'd asked him.
No, I know, but I didn't want to.
He's very good at it.
But yeah, I had to do it myself for the awards night recently, and God, it was a struggle.
And then I just did the front because no one could see the back.
No one could see the back.
And the sleeves were in the jacket.. And the sleeves were in the jacket.
Yeah, the sleeves were in the jacket.
That's such a man thing.
But yeah, I mean, the moment you put your jacket on,
it's going to get crumpled anyway.
See, all I did is the front bit.
And you could never tell because I didn't take my jacket off.
Couldn't tell at all.
No, exactly.
Our number three on the list are the top six questions posted
to Miss Universe in 1952 that old people probably still ask their grandkids today.
How do you like to treat your man like the king he is?
Yeah.
That's always, for
some reason, old people
think that falls on a
woman to keep the man
happy.
Yeah.
And then you look at
your granddad and you're
like, jeez, that guy's
miserable.
Must be Nana's fault.
Gotta be Nana's fault.
Can't be his own
problems and the fact
he never talks about
his feelings or open
up to his mates about
his, I don't know,
his true aspirations in life.
Number two on the list of the top six questions posted Miss Universe in 1952 that old people probably still ask their grandkids today.
And number two is, do you think you're getting a bit fat?
Old people just don't hold back with that, eh?
Nah, oh my God.
How many, like, it's Christmas bingo.
It's like, how long until Nan says, oh, shivers.
Gosh, you've got a big.
You don't need that much pudding, do you?
You've filled out.
You think it's bad.
Asian grandparents are the worst.
Oh, really?
What you're, like.
Sade's mama was a shocker.
Never really to Sade, but everybody else,
she'd put her hand around their wrist,
and if her fingers didn't touch, she'd be like, oh.
Oh, I can't touch mine.
Too fat.
Oh.
I just got mine with my fingernails included.
She literally had tiny old lady hands,
and she'd try to get her thing around like a full-grown person's wrist,
and she'd be like, ah.
Oh, dear.
That's your bones.
I don't carry a lot of weight on my wrists.
Yeah.
And number one on the list of the top six questions posted Miss Universe
in 1952 that old people probably still ask their
grandkids today, and I couldn't have said
that better because Fletch pretty much said at the top,
that's a weird name, where are you from?
I did not
say that at the front. I just thought you'd said
her name was Army
Crusader.
She's an army crusader.
How many times has New Zealand won Miss Universe?
Once.
Well, there's Miss World and Miss Universe.
And which one was Donald Trump?
He owned one of them.
Miss Universe, I think.
I think Lorraine Downs won.
The Yogurt Lady.
Is she the Yogurt Lady?
She did have a stand endorsing yogurt. A Yogurt Lady. Is she the Yogurt Lady? Who did the low endorsing
yogurt? A yogurt.
Lorraine Downs, Miss
Universe 1983
she won. Did Rachel Hunter
win one or was she just a model
slash Miss New Zealand? I thought she was an ice cream.
Miss Universe New Zealand. She was an ice cream.
An ice cream ambassador. A tip top
girl. She was a tip top ambassador.
See I don't think she ever did. I don't even think she did. She was a tip top ambassador No she I don't No see I don't think She ever did
Right
I don't even think she did
She was a supermodel though
Rachel Hunter was like
She was a supermodel
She was Stacey's mom
Got it going on
She's definitely got it going on though
Yeah
So do you need
Do you need to win
This universe
If you're Stacey's mom
Absolutely not
Absolutely not
You've already won the universe
That is today's top six
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ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley.
Now, we are joined by dear friend, Morgan Penn, sexologist, somatic sexologist.
Star of season one of Sex.Life, the podcast.
One of the stars.
Wow, she didn't say one of the stars.
No, she is the leading character for sure in that podcast.
But yes, you're here and you are here to answer some of our listeners' questions
because we did a Q&A for our podcast and we had so many questions,
we couldn't answer them all.
So we thought that our ZDM listeners would also want to have a little poke of the beer
with Morgan Penn.
Great.
I'd love to answer them.
All right, you've picked out a question. I picked out a question
and this question represents
many other question answers who asked the same question.
Hey Morgan!
Whoa!
Do you have any advice on how to get your
libido back while being
on medications such as birth control
or antidepressants?
We got this a lot. A lot of people.
Yeah. I'm not surprised. A lot of
my clients present with low libido and I have to go and figure out what they're on. Yeah, I'm on
both. Oh yeah. Good fun. Wow. Yes. That can really, I guess the thing is like these are amazing
medicines that we have and you know, but the thing is what they do is they do suppress
they numb down they take away the low lows so it means we're not really getting the high highs
and so actually in the body we've got less of a felt sense so really what needs to happen is a
rewiring in the body of what pleasure feels like in your current state so it's about waking up the
body so the pathways that may have worked previously may not work. So it is about waking up the body. So the pathways that may have worked previously
may not work anymore.
So it is about coming into a curiosity of your body
as it is now.
Because I remember when I first moved to Auckland,
I didn't move with Aaron.
He had to finish up in Wellington.
So I moved by myself.
And I was like, in this time,
I'm going to take a break off
being on the contraceptive pill
because I've been on it my whole adult life. I was like, let's in this time. I'm going to take a break off being on the contraceptive pill because I've been on it my whole adult life.
I was like, let's have a go.
Good Lord.
I barely kept my hands off myself.
Wowee.
Yeah, nice.
Oh, okay.
My libido was like, oh, hey, old friend.
I was like, holy moly, you're still there.
Yeah, well, it's hormones.
Yeah, and then I went back on it because my skin went crazy.
No, no.
I know, but it was such an immediate like, well, you know,
like a week or so that I was like, oh, my God,
I'm a totally different person.
And that was part of it.
Living with Aaron's parents.
Frantically playing with yourself.
Other end of the house.
Yeah, get that.
There's Catholics too.
Oh, my God.
A lot of Jesus in the house.
Multiple no-no.
Yeah.
You've got to do what you've got to too. Oh my God. A lot of Jesus in the house. Multiple no-no. Yeah. You've got to do what you've got to do.
Yeah.
But you know, a lot of people have to be on these medications.
Yes, exactly.
But it doesn't mean that pleasure has to stop.
And actually, yes, the desire to actually get started in that realm might be harder.
But I do recommend just starting.
Like actually setting up the scene for yourself
or with another person
because physiologically you will still start having responses.
So you might not have the drive to do it,
but put aside time and start.
Don't override your body.
Like if it's like actually absolutely no,
but if it's a yes, like keep going.
And the more you do that,
the more the body goes,
oh yeah, actually I do like this.
I can feel this. This is good. Yeah. Is that harder for guys? like keep going and the more you do that the more the body goes oh yeah actually i do like this i
can feel this this is good yeah is that harder for guys like because you've got it you know you know
what i mean like if there's no desire there for the guy and there are medications stopping that
yeah but you can still yeah you can still get the arousal going and it might take longer and maybe
you can use sexual aids like visual things to start to watch and then you can still get the arousal going and it might take longer and maybe you can use sexual aids like visual things to start to watch
and then you can turn that off so you don't have to use it the whole time
but to actually just kick off the brain.
Or just fast forward to the good bits.
Or that.
Well, I'd just lie back and be like,
give us a wait-me-up-when-September-ends sort of situation.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't suppose it's like going to the gym, though.
What?
It's always hard to go, but once you're there, you get going.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You get there, don't you?
You feel good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Totally.
Get the endorphins going and everything afterwards.
You're like, well, I'm glad I went.
So you do kind of have to make it like not a job or task, but like...
A conscious decision.
A conscious decision as opposed to like, oh, I'm feeling a bit rainy today.
I'm going to, you know, because that might not happen.
That's exactly right.
And I actually do use the gym example with my clients a lot
because it's like you just can't expect to go to the gym once
and get a big peachy butt.
It's the same with kind of learning new pathways
of sexual expansion, really, trying new things
and things kind of laying in the body
so that you know what feels good
and that you crave it more.
I feel like a lot of people are going to find this
very, very helpful.
Especially, I mean, yeah, with men definitely
there's a lot of men on medication
but I would say 90% of my friends
are on some kind of contraceptive medication.
Right.
Yeah. Doesn't have to mean the end contraceptive medication. Right. Yeah.
Doesn't have to mean the end of the good times.
Not at all.
Morgan Penn, thank you so much for coming in.
Thank you.
If somebody would like to follow you on Instagram.
Morgan the sexologist.
You've got a fancy website?
Yes, morganpenn.co.nz.
She's got a website.
I don't have a website.
Well, you're not a sexologist.
I want to see if hayleysprout.co.nz.
Just because somebody's got something, it doesn't mean you need one, Hayley.
It doesn't.
It doesn't.
You can just let your friends have a thing
you don't have to have.
How do you buy it?
How do I buy hayleysprout.co.nz?
No, go.com.
You buy it.
It sounds bigger.
It sounds more global if you're.com.
Is that a clam shell covering your lady parts there?
Yes, it is, actually.
Now, did you eat the clam
or did you just buy the shell as decorative?
I just plopped that shell on top of myself
and let somebody else
eat it. There you go, so if you'd like to
Wow.
She's not lying though, she was just a shell
so someone must have eaten that. There you go, the website
again? MorganPenn.co.nz
And if you missed the
podcast Sex.Life, you can listen
to that now on iHeartRadio. Morgan Penn, thank you so much for coming in. My pleasure, thankco.nz. And if you miss the podcast, Sex.Life, you can listen to that now on iHeartRadio.
Morgan Penn, thank you so much for coming in.
My pleasure.
Thank you.
My pleasure.
Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
I believe, sir, you have stumbled across some research.
I do.
About dates.
So I can tell you now, one in five first dates.
Now, this comes to us from Bumble, too, and they know.
I thought it was always Boomble.
Like Michael Boomble Like Michael Boomble
Boomble the dating app
One in five Gen Z's and Millennials
Have gone to the gym
On a first date
Would that be where you feel
That's CrossFit freaks
What did you say these numbers were?
One in five
That's more than CrossFit That's gym, that's CrossFit freaks. What did you say these numbers were? One in five. That's more than
CrossFit. That's gym, that's
spin class, that's yoga class.
Would you want to be like doing an
insane spin class or
any class in front of someone you don't know?
This is a first date, you say? First date.
First date is a drink at a bar or a
coffee at a cafe. Yes, but
people are moving away from that because
you do that a few times a week
and it adds up.
It's too expensive.
Yeah, so is a gym membership.
I suppose if you've already got one.
You're already going.
But would you say that's one of the places?
You have to be going to the same gym.
You have to be like similar fitness levels.
Oh yeah, I'm not joining City Fitty.
I'm not joining what's the one you go to?
Hey, Anytime Fitness.
I'm not joining Anytime Fitness to go on a date.
I'm not going to Big Purple. Why not go to Big Puts? Fitness. I'm not joining Anytime Fitness to go on a date. I'm not going to Big Purple.
Why not go to Big Pits?
No, I'm big red and black.
Red and black?
Isn't that Les Mills?
Isn't it red and black?
Or is this black now?
No, it's just black.
Which is cool.
No, red is the snap.
Snap.
Snap and jets.
I think it's Jared City Fitty.
Yeah, he's City Fitty.
What colour is City Fitty?
Blue.
Blue and red and white.
Blue and red and white.
Yeah, can't decide.
It's mixed.
But no, that's,
I never even thought about that.
No.
I would never.
Because that's one of the places you feel the most self-conscious, right?
A gym. Hell yeah.
Straight into the Lycras.
Yep.
Straight into the sweat.
Straight into stinking.
Straight into like crotch rotch.
Crotch rotch.
Crazy crotch rotch.
Crotch rot.
Crotch rot.
Crotch rot.
Yuck.
But stinky then afterwards. What are you going to have a prody shake and go for a walk? Crotch rot. Crikey, crotch rot. Crotch rot. Crotch rot. Crotch rot. Yuck.
But Stingy, then afterwards, what are you going to do, a prody shake and go for a walk?
Yuck.
No, that's yuck.
And then what are you meant to like chat to them like
while you're doing squats, like in between sets?
Yeah, Wendy talk.
And I've got an ugly face.
If I'm going hard, which I always do.
And there's no point going half.
You've got to go hard, not half.
Especially if it's a first date.
You're going max. But I feel no point going half. You've got to go hard, not half. Especially if it's a first date.
You're going max.
But I feel that's going to lead to either injuries or accidents because you're going to be trying to show off
and bench press something that you can't lift
and then just look stupid.
Yeah.
No, that's a terrible idea.
This is a terrible idea for a first date.
This is a bad idea.
Don't do that.
Here's some good places for a first date.
Okay, hit us.
I mean, you've been married for how many years now?
And with your wife?
Thirteen.
He doesn't have to be screened on the dating world.
Together, nineteen.
Yeah.
Nineteen!
But he knows how to keep a honey.
Yeah.
He does know how to keep a honey.
This is why these tips will be great, I'm sure.
A park.
Okay.
Go for a walk.
Green space.
Don't feed the ducks bread.
I mean, I'm all for it. I think they love it too. It's bad for them, but they love it. Like the rest of us. Okay. Go for a walk. Green space. Don't feed the ducks bread. I mean, I'm all for it.
I think they love it too.
It's bad for them, but they love it.
Like the rest of us.
We eat things that we know are bad for us, but we love it.
But some people don't like the ducks being fed bread.
So don't feed the ducks bread on a first date.
I feed them rice.
I don't know if that's better.
Okay.
Seeds.
I feed them a steak sandwich.
Bread?
Yeah.
On the steak?
Yeah, going here.
I think they're supposed to feed them steak.
Where else could you go on a first date?
A beach.
You're telling us.
A beach, yep.
I'm talking to myself.
Fish and chips?
Yeah, fish and chips on the beach.
And a crab stick.
Yeah, and pre-packed crab.
No, that's how I know it's love.
If they ooh me when I get my crab stick, I'm like, we can't be together.
What is love?
It is a crab stick.
A crab stick.
And chips.
And chips, yeah. What is love? Um, a crab stick and chips.
What is love?
The beach is another good place.
I was going to say the zoo, but that's not for everybody.
You've got a non-old.
You've got a non-old.
Show sponsor, yeah.
You can get the show sponsor in there.
A Rose Gardens.
Okay.
A beauty therapy place.
Oh, what are you saying?
What?
You could go and get some Botox done together.
Or your nails.
Do your nails a little mani-pedi?
Get high at Professionale on a first date.
Expensive though. A bar.
You really haven't,
you've given us some real standard first date locales there.
Dude, it's a first date. Let's just
chill. Let's just take it easy.
Let's just ease into it. We're not going to
the gym. Yeah, yeah, I know. That's why ease into it. We're not going to the gym.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
That's why then you start putting a bit more.
And then you know you learn about them a bit,
and then you can cater the second date.
Right.
Okay.
Come on, guys.
Come on.
Next on the show, silly little poll.
Aren't people angrier than ever?
Spoiler alert.
Yes, a lot. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.
Silly little pole.
Silly little pole.
It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little pole.
Silly little pole.
Silly little pole.
Silly little pole.
Silly little pole.
Silly little pole today.
Do you think people are angrier than ever?
What did our national leader, Christopher Luxon, say a few weeks ago?
We're like wet, whiny, wimpy, moaning, internal, inbred.
He said a lot of things.
He said New Zealanders are blah, blah, blah.
And then a couple of days later said, I wasn't talking about New Zealand.
I was talking about the Labour government.
Or something.
Yeah, sure.
Okay.
Do you think people are angrier than ever?
90% of people said yes.
Yeah, I feel like.
I just feel like you can't get away from it because of social media.
I feel like people have always been like this.
Yeah.
But now it's amplified.
It's amplified.
It follows you around. It's living in your pocket. Yeah. But now it's amplified. It's amplified. It follows you around.
It's living in your pocket.
It's hard to get away from.
Like if someone disagreed with you and was not very nice about it,
you could just totally avoid it.
Yeah.
I just feel like it follows us around a little bit more.
Also, a lot of grim news as well.
A lot of doom scrolling.
It's, you know, it's all the global warming.
There's the war.
Yeah.
You just try to live your life despite the world.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
You're sort of like, oh, God.
Put the blinkers on.
Put the blinkers on and just try to get by.
It's hard because you want to know what's going on.
Like, I don't like not knowing what's in the news.
Oh, no, I'm not a heads down person.
I always read the news, but sometimes it's like, oof, yeah.
Sometimes ignorant bliss is nice.
It's bliss.
For a weekend, for a long weekend away from everything.
Yes, and you come back and you're like, holy moly.
A weekend of ignorant bliss.
That did surprise me, that poll result.
Like, that's pretty bad.
Yeah.
We angry.
Katie said, well, people seem to not only be angry on behalf of themselves,
but angry on behalf of other people lately.
Yeah.
People that aren't angry are offended.
I love when people take offense on someone else's behalf. Yeah. Same. That's Lately. Yeah. People that aren't angry or offended. I love when people take offence on someone else's behalf.
Yeah.
Same.
That's good stuff.
Yeah.
Master 12, says Kayla.
That means her son who's 12 years old.
Yeah.
I'm angry now because she said Master 12.
Right.
She could have just said my son.
Yeah.
Master 12, Miss 5.
Called me fat and ugly because I wouldn't let him on his laptop.
I said that he came out of my vagina
so his chances have been the same at 50-50
and he threw a cup at me.
Jesus!
Can't hit kids these days, can you?
No.
No, you can't.
Because boy, oh boy, there's one way that has to be.
That would have got me a hiding if I'd said that.
That would have got me an absolute whacker.
They do feel hittable.
Lisa says,
I just think people think everybody's angry.
They don't know how to react to somebody else's feelings,
so they'll just say you're angry just because someone doesn't react
how you want them to.
It doesn't make them angry.
Quit thinking everyone's angry.
Sounds like she's angry.
But then also, like, there was another story a few weeks ago
about supermarkets trialing body cams.
Some of them are using body cams.
Because people are being abusive.
Because people are being so angry just even at the supermarket. Pandemic, eh?
The pandemic made supermarkets a war zone.
Dan says, I work
in a call centre and I expect angry customers
each time, but it's been a while and now that I
think about it, I've probably jinxed myself by even
mentioning it. Yeah. You've got to kill
them with kindness. In a call centre?
Yeah, or just anywhere.
Someone's being angry at you.
Courtney says, I mean, there's nothing quite like impending climate doom,
never-ending natural disasters, a pandemic,
the soaring cost of living, and wild misinformation to make people angry.
Yeah.
Those are all things that will fuel the anger.
I live in London now, says Maria, and everyone seems angrier here.
I think it's the shit weather.
That's sadder.
No, but it's always shit, isn't it?
London is angry.
It's either Melting you hot
Yeah
Or
Freezingly
Miserable cold
Just always cloudy
Wet and grey
Stacey said
Yes me included
I've got such a
Short fuse with adults
At the moment
I'm a teacher
And still as patient
As ever with the youth
Of the day
But holy heck
To adults
F me right off
Oh okay
They're the worst
So there you go
She's angry Everybody seems to be People're the worst. So there you go. She's angry.
Everybody seems to be.
People are the worst.
We just need to take a breath.
Do your breathing exercises.
Can you breathe quieter?
Maybe we should do that on the show every morning.
We should call the segment The Morning Breath.
Yeah.
And we just go.
No, because I think the silent alarms will go off.
No, they can hear us breathing.
But then as you say, people will get annoyed with it.
It's like the morning chew and you're just like...
Oh, I was...
I tried to listen to an audio book
the other day, but the...
Sticky mouth?
Yes.
The Sticky Mouth.
Deliver in the Corner Sticky Mouth Syndrome.
And every time they get to an end of a sentence,
just be like...
I have been listening to a podcast.
Like, I'm enthralled with it.
Yeah.
Got to the final episode.
She had sticky mouth. I could... I can't listen to a podcast if they've got a sticky mouth. But then, I'm enthralled with it. Got to the final episode, she had sticky mouth.
I can't listen to a podcast without a sticky mouth.
I imagine they must be,
like, imagine reading a book.
I've done audiobooks before.
I did a Margaret May. Hey, which one was it?
Took me ages to get the time.
Aren't they like five pages in colour? Most of them
are pictures. Yeah, but you spend the whole
time trying to get sticky mouth.
Right. How do you stop? Because I'm guessing they're so dry because they keep reading. No, but you spend the whole time trying to get sticky mouth. Right. How do you stop?
Because I'm guessing they're so dry because they keep
reading. No, but then I think that's what
anyway, I think that was
a real ick. They've got active saliva
glands maybe. Yeah. They're getting too much saliva.
Well, there you go. Just be nicer.
Do this every morning for the
hourly sticky mouth.
We're a bit of a reading buzz as a group, aren't we?
We're all reading.
Yeah, we're trying to read a bit more.
You're reading some miserable book by some old man.
Cormac McCarthy, a Cathy who died recently.
Yeah.
What's the book about?
Give us the brief synopsis.
It's the 1850s and a boy you don't know him too much more than just the kid.
And his mum dies giving birth to him and he's with his dad
and it's a pretty miserable existence.
And he's like, I reckon I can do out there better on my own
and then just wanders into just desolate wasteland.
Right.
Robbs and steals and works on boats for cash and commits crimes
and has crimes committed against him and and I'd score him reading.
That sounds terrible.
Yeah.
How many stars does it have?
I actually don't know what the overall...
Well, you jumped into reading a book without researching,
or did you take someone's word on it?
The guy died recently, and everybody was like,
this guy rules, and what a storyteller,
and wrote books like no other,
and he wrote The Road and No Country for Old Men.
This one's called Blood Meridian.
Should he have written it in 1985?
I'm surprised this hasn't been made into a movie,
but it would be grim watching.
It sounds like it.
I'm reading a book called A Visit from the Goon Squad.
It's a 2010 book.
Right.
Very old, fun, good book that's gone quite famous.
And then, anyway, so Fletch comes in this morning,
sorry, Vaughn comes in this morning and says that
he's picking up reading again and loving it.
And then Fletch goes, oh my God,
I am loving reading as well on Audible.
And we said-
That is reading.
That's not reading.
It is reading.
That's listening.
Someone reads the book to me.
I'm talking, I'm talking. And that's reading. I'm reading, I not reading. It is reading. That's listening. Someone reads the book to me. I'm talking.
I'm talking.
And that's reading.
I'm reading.
I'm reading.
I'm listening.
I'm listening.
Tardinger.
You're listening.
Tardinger.
You are not reading.
That's not reading.
That's lazy.
It's being read to me.
That's reading.
That's not reading.
It's exactly the same as if I was reading.
If you can close your eyes while you do it.
I can lay there relaxed. I don't need to be focused on the book. It's, the same as if I was reading. If you can close your eyes while you do it. I can lay there relaxed.
I don't need to be focused on the book.
It's, oh my God, it's way better.
You're not reading.
I've listened to audio books before.
I don't like them.
Because I don't like the voice.
If the voice isn't right, I'm out.
Always preview the voice.
Because there was this one audio book,
and every time the guy finished a sentence,
he was like, on.
And I was like uh oh
and I noticed it
in the first sentence
and then every sentence
we woke up
on a cool
summer's morning
the wind outside
was just
I just feel like
it was like that
I've done audio books
before
have you
you've narrated them
yeah it took me
so long
to get the tone
like we were in there for hours until
we were like, okay, now I've got the tone. Because this latest one
I downloaded it and it was like 17
hours, 10 minutes.
And I was like, you what? Jesus. That's a
lot. I got a better way to spend my day.
I just shuttled it across to like
1.3 times speed.
Oh, exactly how the author meant it to be.
They brought it down to like 10 hours.
I was like, brilliant, I'm saving time.
I don't have to flick pages.
Oh my God.
What is the book called?
I'm not telling you.
Why are you not telling us?
We told you about books.
We're going to tell you what books we're reading.
He's reading a depressing 1850s thing.
I'm not saying what book I'm reading.
I'm reading sort of a modernist, sort of strange music world thing.
Yeah, I'm not telling you.
What is that?
I'm not telling you. Is it it? I'm not telling you.
Is it Mr. Grumpy's motor car or something?
Yeah.
Mr. Grumpy got in his car.
Mr. Grumpy got in his car.
Mr. Grumpy was grumpy
because none of the drivers on the road were grumpy.
I can't believe you listened at 1.3.
It is so stressful.
That makes Mr. Grumpy,
the Mr. Men book,
go like in 30 seconds.
So we have tried it before
because the three of us already talk quite fast.
This is genuinely my natural tempo.
When you speed it up even 0.1, it's absurd.
Yeah, but that's how a lot of people are listening to podcasts and audiobooks.
You just get more in, more time saved.
Not you?
No, I like to, because it expands the mind.
Right.
It's a good exercise for the brain.
Good for Alzheimer's.
Good for, you know, falling asleep.
Do you know what's not good for Alzheimer's?
Born string bottled to set his head.
That's got a good sound.
It's like comically funny.
I was going to do mine, but mine's mental.
Doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing.
So what book are you reading?
I'm not telling you.
See, if you just said it, it wouldn't be.
Now it's a thing.
Yeah, I'm not leaving until you say it.
If you just said.
What?
I'm not telling.
Is it horny?
No, it's not.
It's a horny book.
It's not horny.
You're a horny boy.
It's not embarrassing.
Are you just reading some of the classics that you haven't read?
No.
Just catching the ride.
I'm just not going to say.
What is it?
No.
It's because he's not even listening to a bloody book.
It's a Joy Cowley.
He's listening to...
It's a missus wishy-washy.
And that took 17 hours to listen to.
It was a lot of wishy-washy, wishy-washy.
Don't put your fingers on the faders.
We're not going anywhere.
Don't fade them down.
You can't tell us what the book is.
No, I'm not.
I'm not.
It's some like poppy, wishy-washy rom-com woman's book.
Just no, no.
Mr. Wishy-washy.
Mrs. Wishy-washy.
No.
Is it a Mr. Thank You?
Is it?
Mr.
And like three pages long.
Mm.
What is it?
What book do you reckon he's reading?
In the producer's booth.
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what book I'm reading.
We're running out of time.
It's definitely got a neurotic bent to it.
Yeah, it's sexy for sure.
Is it Clan of the Cave Bears?
What?
They have sex in the caves.
No.
I remember reading that as a kid and being like...
Is that a real book?
Yeah, when you said it, I was like,
did you just make that up?
Because I'm sure I've seen...
No, there's three books.
They're a series.
Clan of the Cave Bears.
And I remember I was like seven years old and my best friend was like, read this. And they made Love in a Cave'm sure I've seen... No, there's three books. They're a series. Clan of the Cave Bears. And I remember I was like seven years old
and my best friend was like,
read this.
And they made Love in a Cave
and I was like...
At seven you read it.
I'm probably a little bit older than that.
Right.
Clan of the Cave Bears.
The Prehistoric Times is the first book
in the Earth's Children book series.
Oh my God, I've just pieced this all together
why I'm so attracted to cavemen.
Your sexual awakening was Clan of the Cave Bears.
Your sexual awakening of interactions between Neanderthal and modern Cro-Magnon humans.
This explains a lot, Jason Momoa, your fiancé.
The bit I read as a child was they have sex on a bear skin in a cave.
I've read these books.
You've read these books?
There's nothing erotic about these books.
These are children's books.
Clearly the cave bears.
Yeah, they're like fiction set,
kind of caveman-y times,
but it's all tribal people.
I think you might have read a kid's version
because these are very sexy books.
Unless you were just...
They're not like porn books.
Unless you can't remember
and you were sexying up these...
No, no, no, I remember.
We went into the Eastbourne Library in Lower Hutt,
and we went in there, and we read it,
and we were like, hee-hee.
I'm just looking at the plot somewhere,
and I Control-F'd to find I put skin.
Yeah.
No mention of skin.
No bear skin.
Make him the leader.
We need to do a search for horny.
Love, nothing, sex, nothing.
Yeah, I think we were making up these horny bears.
What book does she show me?
I think Eastbourne Library might need to do a sweep.
I think they need a little bit of a sweep.
Play.
ZDM's Fletchvorn and Hayley.
I have stumbled across an article that made me go,
huff, would I ever do this?
Okay.
There's a woman who, she got married and pregnant at 21.
I guess in these days,
that would be sort of a young thing to do.
All the rage like in the 60s, 50s, 60s, 70s.
Oh, 18, 19, totally.
Yeah.
But this is right now.
She got married at 21.
Sorry, pregnant at 21, married to the man at 22.
Six years later at 28, they got divorced.
And she said it was a classic divorce.
Very typical, push and pull, lots of fighting.
Amicable in that they both knew it had to happen,
but it was hard, like any divorce.
They thought they could fight through it and stay together.
They had two kids at this point.
And it was all very difficult.
I can't imagine what it's like.
And it's going to happen one day for Vaughan
and we really need to be there for him.
You know?
No, they're both too stubborn.
She's going to look in the mirror one day
and be like, God, Lord, I'm beautiful.
Yeah, nah,
because I've been running her down for years.
And you've bogged her down in paperwork.
Bogged her down in admin.
Yeah, she's not going anywhere.
Yeah, made her unemployable.
Like, made her unemployable. Like, made her unemployable.
No, I truly believe that that's a real true love we're seeing there.
It is.
It's beautiful love.
Yeah.
Hopefully it's something I never go through.
I'm not married.
So that's the first thing we're fighting about.
Yeah, but you want to be.
It just hasn't happened.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ring's been on the finger for four years, but something's getting in the way.
Anyway, so
they've got kids, so their lives are
forever entwined anyway.
But, you know, there's
pain there. And then recently
her husband, her ex-husband, I
apologise, got married
and invited her to the wedding.
And she went. And people online
are just like, this is bizarre and the most bizarre thing ever.
But to me, that's not that bizarre.
They've got kids.
It's nice they get along at that level.
Yeah.
And they're not married and they don't love each other in that way anymore.
But they are family.
You're family with the person that you have a child with, whether you like it or not.
That's why you've got to think carefully about who you have children with because you're linked to them forever.
You are. You are.
Well, if they stick around, you are.
If they run away, I'm sure it's probably for the best.
You'll be IRD linked with them forever.
Yeah, exactly.
But some people just find it really hard
when someone they're dating is still friends with their ex.
Yeah.
Do you know what I like about this?
You said when the final moment came where it landed within both of them
that they had to get a divorce, they sat down and shook hands
and said, right, we're doing it.
Shook hands?
Anyway, so she said it was one of the most beautiful things.
Many reasons, right?
Like you want the father of your children to be the happiest version of himself
that he can be so that he's a good father because he's happy
and loving his life.
Of course you want these things. But yeah yeah people online are either like how beautiful or
like what the hell i would never invite my ex to my wedding and i want to know if you have done this
have you invited your ex to your wedding have you been to your ex's wedding what was it like
also all your friends are like oh my god there's there's the ex. Totally. And there's the new wife. But if you were with
him for six years
and had two kids together, they'd
know him as a person,
not just their friend's
partner. Yeah, for sure. He's in
the circle then, and then if it's an amicable
situation and she's not, like, bitching
him out to her friends,
why would the friends be? It's very modern
and I like it. Yeah, because I like it too.
A lot of people just find out they're just better
as friends. Totally. After
being in a relationship. Yeah, you can still really
like them. So why wouldn't you invite one of your best friends to your
wedding? Do you know when I first got engaged
my, I won't call him my ex
because it was so many years before
meeting Aaron, but
like my first love, he's a
wedding photographer.
Oh, yeah.
Good Lord, he does good photos.
And I was like, would it be weird to ask Ben to take my wedding photos with Aaron?
Maybe.
I'm still thinking about it.
Would Aaron find that weird?
He's such an incredible photographer.
I was like, why wouldn't you just have someone there?
But then you've got to do all those like,
okay, look into each other's eyes photos.
And you're like, I was looking into his eyes.
That's awkward enough for the stranger.
I've slept with a photographer.
And I'm sleeping with this big guy now.
Anyway, this is what I want to know is, did you get invited to an ex's wedding?
Or did you invite your ex to your wedding?
Yeah.
Was it weird?
Did it backfire?
Or was it all just all good?
Did it backfire and they realise, seeing you in a wedding dress,
that they do love you still?
Okay, well, give us a call.
0800 DALS at M.
You can text as well, 9696.
Did you get invited or invite your ex to your wedding?
We want to know this morning when you've invited an ex,
or maybe you were the ex, to your wedding.
Yeah.
There's a story online that's doing the rounds of this very scenario
and people are confused by it.
Well, people are just like, how can you do that?
A lot of old feelings, they never quite go away, do they?
I just saw the, well, just people, I think, are more friends.
Best friends with these people.
Yeah.
I just saw the photo of this couple.
It's like your fiance and Jason Momoa had a love child.
You saw it, I saw it.
Genetically spliced.
Huge. Genetically very similar. Boy. And spliced. You saw it, I saw it. Genetically spliced. Huge.
Genetically very similar.
Boy.
And spliced. Hair tied up,
man bun optional.
Some messages in.
My groom invited
his ex-girlfriend.
I was a little bit
hum-harsh about it.
She showed up
to our wedding
in a whitish gown
and I almost lost my shit.
You've broken
a cardinal rule there.
Even if you say friends
they're troublemakers.
That feels intentional.
It's not worth it.
My ex showed up at my wedding, wasn't invited,
but he came as a friend's plus one.
It was awkward, but I did manage to forget about it
and have a good night.
That's on you, though, for managing your guest list.
You don't just give someone a plus one.
Don't give out plus ones willy-nilly.
My ex and I have always stayed best friends,
so he was their front row.
Somebody else said my ex was not invited to my wedding,
but he dedicated the entire day to spam messaging me
and all the bridal party asking for the address.
Yeah, let it go, bro.
You're not invited, dude.
You're just literally getting married.
You're not invited, my dude.
Also, you can't just cold call a wedding.
No.
Just turn up.
Absolutely not.
We'll get to more of your texts and calls.
The ex 0800 dials at Amazon number 9696 to text.
When did you invite an ex to your wedding?
We're talking about being invited to your ex's wedding
or you inviting your ex to your wedding
because a couple share this experience online of them doing it
and people are finding it difficult.
A bit weird.
Now, Nat joins us.
Nat, what was the situation at a wedding you were at?
So I wasn't actually at the wedding.
It was my ex's wedding to his now wife.
And my parents went to it.
Hang on.
Was your parents' connection with your ex simply through you?
Well, I mean, originally it was simply through me.
He was my university boyfriend.
And probably like two years after we broke up,
my mum got in touch with him because she was looking for some people
to come work for her and thought that he might have some contact.
Yeah.
And then he said, sure, but also I'd be keen.
And so he went and worked for her.
And it was like kind of his first, I guess, like big job in the real world.
Right.
And so he became like her protege.
Wow.
Oh, my Lord.
Do you have any brothers?
Or was he like the son they never had?
No, I do have a brother.
But arguably he was still kind of the son I never had.
Yeah, is your brother a bit of a
dud? Lazy.
Lazy bastard. Can't be the
protege. Because sometimes you hear about that, like
parents, like, you know, you break
up, but the parents say friends.
Oh, mate, I had a breakup once
and when he left, he said,
I'm really sad, but I'm also really sad I'm not
going to get to hang out with your parents anymore.
It's like a cool family.
So I get it.
Yeah.
Well, I don't think my parents are that cool,
but obviously he does.
Girls, you've got a dud brother and not cool parents.
Good Lord.
They're actually all awesome.
Hopefully they're not listening to this.
Otherwise, you're in trouble
and your Christmas presents are going to be downgraded this year.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
But they didn't find it weird being there?
No,
I think they really enjoyed it.
I mean,
it was,
um,
I remember one time he brought her over to,
um,
our annual boxing day barbecue and I was there.
This was,
I think before they got married.
Yeah.
And there was this like quite kind of awkward conversation that she had with my auntie,
um,
where my auntie was, she asked my auntie
how do you know Nat and her family
and my auntie was like oh well
I'm Susan's sister
and then
she said the same, how do you
know Nat?
And she goes oh well
he works for
Susan and I think he and Nat knew one another at university.
Knew one another.
Knew each other very well.
Yeah, exactly.
And my auntie was like, yes, I think they did know one another.
Wow.
Nat, amazing.
Thanks for your call.
Let's go to Lexi.
Lexi, your ex was your husband's groomsman.
What?
Yes, that's right.
And then you were the bridesmaid at his wedding, your ex's wedding.
Yeah, I was.
Hang on, step back.
The old switcheroo.
This is classic small town stuff, the old switcheroo.
Yeah, was it a small town wedding?
No, no, no, we're in Auckland.
Oh, okay.
Wait, so hang on, you're with this person.
Which is just a small town, parading is a large city. We are. You're with this person, you, no. We're in Auckland. Oh, okay. Wait, so hang on. You're with this person. Which is just a small town parading as a large city.
We are.
You're with this person.
You break up.
Mm-hmm.
Then what happens?
So we dated, oh, I'd say it was 15 years ago now.
So we were quite young.
Yep.
We dated for nine months and it ended amicably.
We were still friends, all good.
And at the time, I was friends with the girl who was going to eventually become his girlfriend and his wife.
Right.
And the man who was going to eventually become my husband was also friends with my ex.
I thought you don't sleep with your ex's friends.
Your friends don't sleep with your friends' exes.
Unless they give written permission.
It's okay, I think.
Did you seek permission?
Did all four of you seek each other's permission for this shenanigans?
We were all friends, and there's plenty of years in between the dating.
It just feels so much like a small town.
It's not even funny.
It does.
It feels like something that would happen in Geraldine or something.
Very Geraldine.
Wow, and so obviously it's been so long that it's not weird at all then.
No, definitely not.
So when my ex and my friend got engaged,
he asked me to be her bridesmaid.
And so when my husband and I got engaged,
he asked my ex to be his groomsman
and I asked her to be one of my bridesmaids.
Again, this sounds very Geraldine.
Very Geraldine. Very Geraldine.
You're in the Clouds Daughters. It does.
You know when they can't afford too many extra people to come on as main players in the sitcom, so they
just kind of like rotate through.
Amazing, Lexi. Thank you. Some messages
in. When you've invited an
ex to a wedding. Yes.
And we'd only been broken up one and a half
years, says Lucy. So I don't know if that
means she invited the ex, but then there's a what the F half years, says Lucy. So I don't know if that means she invited the ex,
but then there's a what the F and a screwy face.
So I feel like she got invited to her ex's wedding
only one and a half years after they broke up.
I invited my ex and his partner to my wedding, says Jamie.
Okay.
He's growing up there.
Yes, he was my first boyfriend, so we broke up like 10 years ago,
but we're really good friends now, and he came to my wedding.
I invited my ex, his partner, her kids,
and the kid they had together to our wedding.
No kids at a wedding.
You don't need kids at a wedding.
Oh, my God.
Child-free wedding.
Child-free wedding.
Every single time.
Unless it's your child.
It's certainly not invited to love child.
I wasn't invited to my parents' wedding.
Me and my brother.
How old were you?
Well, they had four guests.
I was one.
So you're like not in the top five people your parents like.
Yeah, my brother was four, I was one.
That's how he slapped in the face.
Yeah, literally, yeah.
Huge slap in the face.
I know.
It really is.
It still hurts.
Play.
ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley.
Hey, you on the phone, I bet I can guess your mum's name.
Well, it's the return of the segment, I bet I can guess your mum's name.
When we last did this a couple of weeks ago, Vaughan,
not only did you guess the mum's name correctly,
but you also guessed dad's name as well.
Yeah.
Two from two.
Shook me.
And joining us this morning is Grace. Good morning,
Grace. Hi there. How are you
guys? Good to see you.
Amazing, Grace. Oh, for God's
sake. Sorry. Oh, I'm so sorry
about that. I'm so sorry about that.
Oh, what was that? He said
amazing. He said amazing, Grace.
Yeah. I get that a lot.
Yeah. So it's not original. Really?
So the Vaughn didn't come up with that original job just here and now?
I'm pretty sure you've never heard it in that context before.
Now, Grace, Vaughn's going to ask you five questions about your mum
and then is going to have 15 seconds to try and guess her name.
If he can do that, you win $100 cash.
Yes.
Grace, what's mum's middle name?
Anne.
Anne.
Sally. Sally Anne. Sally Anne. Sally Anne.? Anne. Anne. Sally.
Sally Anne.
Sally Anne.
Sally Anne.
Jessica Anne.
Jessica.
Patsy.
Louise. My mum.
She's Patsy Anne.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Right.
Patsy.
Is this your sister on the phone?
Grace?
I don't have a sister.
Grace Sproul.
Or, don't you?
Hayley, I'd like you to meet your sister. Oh, my God. Grace Sproul. Or, don't you? Hayley, I'd like you to meet your sister.
Oh, my God.
Grace Sproul.
I've been pranked.
Okay.
That gives you a good indication of kind of the era, I guess.
Yeah, I was going to say Joanne, but of course that would be Joanne.
There's too many Annes.
Joanne.
Tracy.
Tracy Anne.
Tracy Anne something.
Tracy Anne.
Julie?
Julie Anne. Yeah, Julie Anne. No, something. Tracy Anne. Julie? Julie Anne.
Yeah, Julie Anne.
No, but that's Julian.
Yeah.
No, we could go both.
Donna Anne.
Nah.
Donna Anne.
Nah.
No, but I think.
It's got to be like a.
I don't think it has to rhyme.
I was going to say Suzanne Anne.
No, no, it doesn't, but you can't go like.
Suzanne Anne.
Donna Anne doesn't work because it's Donna Ann.
Like Donna Ann.
Like it's Don, Don, hard, like no, and then Ann.
Two different Ann sounds.
Okay.
It sounds like you're being very inappropriate.
No, no, no, I'm not.
But you would say Jennifer Ann because the N's further back.
It's separated by something.
Some people just chuck it in on the birth certificate.
It was probably a grandma's name or something.
They thought about these things back in the day
before everybody was vaping.
It's the vapes.
Before everybody was vaping and now on TikTok.
Now a TikTok kid would call their kid Julianne Anne.
Dumbass. All right. So Vanessa kid Julianne Anne. Dumbass.
All right.
So Vanessa Anne.
Vanessa Anne.
And her last name's Anderson.
Yeah.
Jennifer.
Jananne Anne Anderson.
Joanne Anne Anderson.
Yeah.
Horrible.
Oh, my God.
I would love to call a kid that.
Joanne Anne Anderson.
Okay, Grace, next question.
What was mum's, like, go-to recipe if she's like, oh, you're coming over for dinner, are you, Grace, next question. What was mum's go-to recipe if she's like,
oh, you're coming over for dinner, are you, Grace?
I'll whip up a...
Oh, maybe like a lamb roast.
Yes.
Put lamb on there.
Not many good meals.
She's a good cook, I'm hearing.
That was a bonus bit of information.
Nigella.
Nigella.
Alison.
What about Alison? Like Alison Holst. Alison Anne. Alison Anne Smith. What about Nadia? Nadia Anne. that was a bonus bit of information yeah nigella really good yeah allison what about allison like
allison holst allison ann allison and what about nadia nadia and nah too i i think it's going to be
a bit of an older generation it could be a nadine which is the old white lady yeah maybe could also
be a wendy yeah have you got a calf a kathy or a kim k Kathy Ann. Kathy Ann's nice. Kim Ann. I've got Kim.
Oh, you've got Kim.
Yeah, good.
I'll chuck a Kath.
Okay.
Kathy.
You've got a Karen, because you always have to have a Karen.
I've got a Karen.
Just in case.
Karen Ann.
That works.
Margaret Ann.
Margaret Ann.
Margaret Ann.
Yep, Marg.
Marg.
Margaret.
It's like my hand and brain won't talk.
I can't.
Right.
My mum's middle name, Bev's middle name is Ann.
Is it? Beverly. You put that down just in case. But that's the rule, is every mother has to mum's middle name, Bev's middle name is Anne. Is it? Beverly.
You put that down just in case. But that's the rule, is every mother has to have the middle name Anne. Yeah.
Or Elizabeth. Unless their first
name is Joanne.
Joanne Anne Anderson.
Oh, you forget Joanne's sister
Suzanne Anne Anderson. Oh, yeah.
Of course, yeah. Who left
her first husband and remarried Suzanne
Anne Andrews. Oh, remarried Suzanne Ann Andrews.
Oh, no.
Suzanne Ann Andrews. Suzanne Ann Andrews.
Next question, what kind of car does mum drive?
Oh, a Suzuki Swift.
Yes.
Swift has got staying power.
Yeah.
And fuel efficiency.
Actually, her new car was a Mercedes, like a real old school Mercedes.
Wait, so we've got a lady, we've got a daily driver in a Suzuki Swift,
but she's got like a special occasions Mercedes.
Yeah, my sister has a Suzuki Swift now and mum upgraded to a classic Mercedes.
Yeah.
God, you wouldn't know what hell you're going from a Suzuki Swift to a classic Merc.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a V8.
A classic Merc.
Wow.
A V8 Merc.
Wow.
Oh, that's a Paula.
You're right.
That's a Paula move.
I wrote Paula.
Yeah, I saw you
write that down.
Who else loves a V8?
Tina from Turner's.
Tina.
Tina, because Tina loves cars.
Doesn't actually work
at Turner's.
Spoiler alert.
Tina Ann.
Yeah, she's a comedian.
I was so gutted when I found that out.
Me too.
Yeah.
I feel like I've been lied to my whole life.
She's on the new series of Taskmaster.
Is she?
Yeah.
Tina from Turner's.
Yeah.
Product placement.
Is that her?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
It's one of those people that you see them and then you start talking about Tina's from
Turner's and she's like, yeah, that's me.
And you're like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry.
Yeah.
Okay, next question.
What are your mum's best friend's names?
Oh, it was a Di in there.
A Di or a Guy, like a Diana.
There was a Jo, a Joanne.
Yep.
Joanne Ann Andrews.
Joanne Ann Anderson.
Oh, I feel like I'm missing some.
There was some more better ones.
Okay.
She's some more better ones.
What does she not have friends anymore?
It's off the social calendar because they all disowned her
when she went from a Swift to a Mercedes.
Yeah, maybe.
Like that someone, Ann, is really getting ahead of herself.
You don't need friends when you've got a Mercedes.
Have you got Christine?
No.
Because Christine sounds to me like she'd drive a vintage Merc.
My mum is a Christine and she wouldn't drive a vintage Merc.
Yeah, that's true.
But she did drive the Ford, the V8, on the farm though, didn't she, Christine?
My mum?
Yeah.
She's been known to handle a V8 in her time.
She's not scared of power.
That's what they say about Vaughan's mum.
She's not scared of power.
She's not scared of hitting the horses.
Last question.
How old is mum?
What's mum's age?
63.
63.
63, so born in 1960.
Okay.
Interesting, you normally go for the siblings' names, Vaughan.
Yeah.
And you haven't this week, which is interesting.
I'm giving it a rest.
Blowing that away, aren't you?
Okay.
Denise Ann.
Denise Ann.
No, that's wrong.
Denise Ann.
Denise Ann.
Denise Ann.
Denise Ann.
What car are you taking?
I'm taking Denise Ann.
Are you taking the Mercedes or Deniseann?
All right, those are the five questions.
Now, Grace Vaughan has 15 seconds to try and guess your mum's name.
If you hear your mum's name, yell out, stop, that's my mum's name.
Vaughan, your time starts now.
Sally, Louise, Patsy, Tracy, Julie, Vanessa, Kim, Rochelle.
Wait, which one?
Julie. Julie. Julie. Kim, Rochelle. Wait, which one? Julie.
Julie.
You said that.
Julie Ann.
Julie Andrews.
Julie Ann.
Julie Ann is the middle name.
Yeah.
Julie's the first one.
Oh, wow.
Julie Ann.
First line.
You guessed it quite early.
I was like, oh.
Yeah, I know.
It's funny when he guesses it early and then he's still got all these questions to go.
What a waste of time. Also, well done hearing someone say it out loud and not just screaming, that's the one. Yeah, I know. It's funny when he guesses it early and then you still have all these questions to go. What a waste of time.
Also, well done hearing someone say it out loud and not just screaming, that's the one.
Yeah, yeah.
We've had that happen before.
Grace, you've triggered the bonus round.
The bonus round.
If you're on the phone, I'll have a go at guessing your dad's name.
You've already locked in $100.
He's correctly guessed your mum's name. There's only one guess allowed for the dad's name. You've already locked in $100. He's correctly guessed your mum's name. There's only one
guess allowed for the dad's name.
And you know what? Some people
might think it's impossible, but you did it
two weeks ago. Julie.
Julie and John.
Julie and John.
Oh, Graham. It's Graham. Julie and Steve.
It's Graham. I'd put, I would
put Graham
on the slightly too old spectrum.
Oh, Graham.
Might be a Julian Murray.
It's a Steve.
It's Steve.
Do you go with the Beatles rule?
It's John or Chris.
Or Ringo.
Or Ringo.
Chris.
Yeah, he was in the Beatles the first week and they got rid of him.
They got rid of him.
Couldn't keep the drumbeat.
Chris the pianist, yeah.
George.
Yeah.
Or a book of the Bible.
George and Julie.
Anne.
Julie.
George and Julie.
No, it can't be George and Julie.
I don't know if it's...
I feel like it's a Murray.
Jack.
A Murray.
I feel like it's a Murray.
I don't know why you're getting Murray vibes.
I'm not getting Murray vibes at all.
For me it was Graham, dude, but you go Murray.
I'm thinking Steve.
You're thinking Steve. Boy, you're Murray. You Murray. I'm thinking Steve. You're thinking Steve.
You're Murray.
You've got to lock in one.
You're locking in Murray?
Yeah.
Grace, what is your dad's name?
Dave.
Of course it's Dave.
Dave, Julie and Dave.
Jesus, that goes out.
Dave and Julie, Julie and Dave.
Of course it is.
It was a sitter.
It was a sitter.
It was a sitter.
I'm sorry.
Sorry I've let Dave down.
You have.
But Grace, you don't go home empty handed.
$100 is all yours for Bet I Can Guess Your Mum's Name.
Congratulations.
Woohoo.
Thank you guys so much.
You're welcome.
Clay, Zed M's, Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
Vaughn's out to sabotage my life.
I'm not.
Yet again.
I'm not.
Yet again.
No, I'm not.
I just wanted some sweet Timu crepe. Oh'm not. Yet again. I'm not. Yet again. No, I'm not. I just wanted some sweet Timu crepe.
Oh, my God.
But then I didn't get enough by only recruiting Hayley to get my three free gifts.
Okay, I'm waiting now on three free gifts.
This was introduced to New Zealand in March, the shopping at Timu.
But it's been around for a while.
It's been around a while.
Do you know, I've done some research.
50 million devices have this installed around the world.
Wow.
China's the guy that owns it,
and the company that owns it,
is China's youngest self-made billionaire.
So it's like an AliExpress,
but, and there are warning stories,
like One News had a warning story,
Timu's shopping app,
use it at your own risk, says expert.
Yeah.
Because for those that don't know how the shopping app works.
It's basically like a gaming app.
It's gamified.
It's gamified shopping.
It's insane.
You just go there and it was like, if you in the next however many minutes can earn so many points, you can get three free items.
And I was like, oh, okay, how do I get my.
So I had so many points banked from doing nothing,
just signing up.
And then as the more people I invite,
the more points I get,
but the more people I invite,
every time I get less points for inviting the next person.
Yes.
So I'm in the same point that you are now,
just to jump forward on my Teemu journey.
And I need someone to join.
Don't look at me. I need someone to join. Don't look at me.
I need someone to join
so I can get six free gifts,
including a vacuum robot.
Yeah, I've got a robot vacuum
on my list of things to do.
A shower speaker.
Okay.
And some lunch package things.
But I've invited everyone
that I'm happy to invite,
which is everyone on this show.
Okay.
Now one of you needs to accept.
It's a little embarrassing, right?
To be like reaching out to people outside this group
that we can laugh about it.
To be like, hey, why don't you join Timu with me?
Vaughn invited me to get some coins
so he can get some free items, right?
And I happily accepted because he knows that I'm a shopper
and I won't be stoppered.
Yeah.
So I went on and from joining,
you order 10 items and you get six for free.
Now I hear the scam coming out of my voice.
I hear it.
I hear that I'm spending more money than I need to,
but I'm not going to say no to six free items.
So I've added them to my cart and I bought them
and I got a free massage gun and a free this
and a free car vacuum.
And now I want more free things.
Well, and that's the thing.
A lot of people aren't comfortable with this business model that you're having to.
It is insane.
It is like a game.
It doesn't feel real.
Like I haven't paid for a single thing.
But I've got all these half filled out gift card discount box things.
You will not get them without paying for them.
Have you spent money yet?
No.
On it? No. I have. Oh for them. Have you spent money yet? No. On it?
No.
I have.
Oh my God.
I've spent a little bit.
Okay, well, what did you get for your free gifts?
Okay.
Can you, what, so.
Okay, out of my order of 10.
Wait, so you sign up and you got 10 free gifts?
No, no, no, you sign up, you order 10 things.
Yeah.
And you get.
Seven for free.
Seven for free.
And you pay for three of them.
Right.
But the first one you select is guaranteed to be free.
So I did the most expensive one.
I've got a free massage gun.
Oh, my God.
I love my massage gun.
Because I broke mine.
Yeah, but.
But.
Then I got a free spoon that weighs what it's on it.
That's a great.
That's a good kitchen.
Thank you.
So you can be like.
Don't laugh.
You asked me. Okay. I got a free. Oh can be like. Don't laugh. You asked me.
Okay.
I got a free.
Oh my God, I need this.
Sorry to interrupt.
I need this.
You wrap it around your tap and any water that splashes around your tap,
it's gravity's into the sink.
Aesthetically, that's fog.
That you can't have that.
But it's black.
That's so bad.
No, you can't have that.
Maybe just when we're doing the dishes.
No, you can't have that.
Okay.
I got a free wireless car vacuum cleaner.
Oh, yeah, we had one of those.
I broke it.
That's the one you broke.
I'm receiving a free back stretcher.
You know, the ones that like anti-punch.
Oh, yeah, you lie on the ground in it.
Because I do that all the time.
I just put something under and crack my back.
I got a free car trash can because my car is a trash can.
I got a free sunset light thing.
And I got a free sleep mask with Bluetooth in the ears.
So it's flat and it goes against your ears and you can listen to white noise,
but you can still roll around without having big headphones stabbing you in the ear.
So I paid for three items, which came to $60.
$60?
Yeah.
For 10 items.
None of what you just said
could be...
I'm sorry.
...cost more?
How are you making
a massage gun,
electric scale...
Electric scale spoon.
Oh my God.
And the items they paid for
are a full yoga bodysuit,
size large.
Do you know Timu had an ad
in the Super Bowl?
The last Super Bowl.
Did it?
That's how insane Timu is around the world and how much money they're making.
Yeah.
But yeah, people are really addicted to this.
So be careful.
Can you, Fletch, can you just join?
No.
Just join and then I can get my free gifts and I'll be out.
What is that Arbonne or it's like those schemes.
Yeah, pyramid scheme.
It's not pyramid though, right?
No, but I need to
hook you in.
But it kind of is
because the idea is
I invite you
and all the people I know
and I get points for that
but then you can also
earn points
but then you don't earn
me any points.
So that's where the pyramid stops.
It's just like layered.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
Multi-level marketing?
Hooking all of your friends
into this.
Just join and then
I'll get my things.
No.
Shannon, just join. Carwin. No. Jared. Can friends into this. Just join and then I'll get my things. No. Shannon, just join.
Karwin.
No.
Jared.
Can you hear yourself?
Just join and I can get a free set of silicon food holders.
You need it to be silicon because it is both heat and frost resistant.
Listen to yourself.
Thank you, Vaughan.
Yeah.
Straight from the fridge to the microwave.
Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan. Yeah. Straight from the fridge to the microwave. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.
Play ZM.
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
Today's fact of the day is about lukewarm.
The term lukewarm, if something's lukewarm.
Luke. I just imagine it was a guy called Luke.
Was it a bit near the end of there?
It was a bit like, uh.
And he put his finger in some water and he's like, perfect.
Perfect.
Just one finger and I said it.
Perfect for me, Luke.
Perfect for me.
I neither like it hot nor cold.
Yep.
And I am neither happy nor sad.
I'm just kind of like Luke warm.
Old Luke warm.
No, it looks to be, it's kind of debated,
but it looks to be it comes from the Dutch word luuk,
meaning tempered or weak. Oh, yeah. So luuk, meaning tepid or weak.
So luukwarm is kind of
saying warm, warm. Is that
what the name luuk means? Luuk.
No, luuk is a Dutch word.
L-E-U-K.
Yeah.
So middle Dutch or old
Frisians, which is where cows talk to each other
in a sort of a Dutch
language, but luuk meant tepid or weak.
So Lukewarm.
It's tepid water.
It's tepid water.
Right.
It's kind of like, so you would say it's Lukewarm.
So you're basically saying it's warm, warm.
Warm.
Yeah, right, because Luke means right.
Yeah, and then that was the first one.
It was done on temperature,
and then you would say somebody was neither hot nor cold on you.
On an idea, you'd be like,
I'm a bit lukewarm on this idea of going away.
Yeah.
You know.
I'm a bit luke.
Yeah.
And then it was in the Bible.
Here we go.
I wish you were.
I've got my favorite book.
I wish you were.
Well, it's a very old book, you see,
and the best part about it,
it's been translated and changed throughout history so much
they can kind of trace words back through it.
But it basically translates to, I wish you were hot or cold,
so because you are lukewarm and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you off my mouth.
Oh, jeez.
Spit you off my mouth.
So if your reception to me is hot, I like that.
We're friends.
If it's cold, I know where we stand.
If it's lukewarm, you're a little confusing and I want you out of it
by drinking a lukewarm tea
you're like
or a refreshing drink
you want a hot drink
or a cold drink
you don't want a lukewarm
sometimes a lukewarm tea
or a coffee
I'll just give it 20 seconds
in the micro RV
I will tip it out
and just make a new one
really
it's so wasteful
yeah
sometimes I think I want a coffee
in the afternoon
and I make one
and I have two sips
and I'm like
no it wasn't what I wanted
yeah tip it out and then what do you have and I do feel wasteful a bit of water I think I want a coffee in the afternoon and I make one and I have two sips and I'm like, no, it wasn't what I wanted.
Yeah.
Tip it out.
And then what do you have? And I do feel wasteful.
A bit of water.
I think I just have some water.
Maybe a piece of fruit.
Right.
Okay.
Maybe a piece of fruit was what I wanted.
Okay.
But I didn't know.
Yeah.
So today's fact of the day is lukewarm.
Isn't a slant on anyone called Luke, although they're always good.
It's actually pretty much saying
Someone's kind of a warm warm
Warm warm
Fact of the day
Day day day day
I'm a big fan of teeth whitening.
I get my teeth whitened at a place.
I love it.
It's great.
Have they seen it afterwards of the show?
No, this place I go lovely smiles.
Shout out to JJ.
He's...
JJ Feeney.
No, not JJ Feeney.
Scandal Queenie.
She's not doing teeth whitening.
It's JJ...
JJ Moofie. Another... JJ Tooth Decay. Whiting Toofie. She's not doing teeth winding. It's JJ... JJ Murphy.
Another...
JJ Tooth Decay.
Whiting Toofy.
Yeah, yeah.
There you go.
Right.
But it doesn't hurt.
Because I got it done ages ago and it was hydrogen peroxide.
Yeah, and it hurts to shit.
And the next day...
Sorry.
I had to put stuff on my...
Just absolutely swore like a devil.
I apologise.
But it does.
It hurts.
It hurts, yeah.
Yeah, it hurts.
And you breathe and the wind like blows on you
and you're like, take me now.
I wasn't allowed like coffee or any stainy foods.
You know, I love my...
You love a stainy.
I love my stainy foods, my curries.
Mashed potato.
You're not allowed any of that for like two or three days?
Yeah, it sucks.
And so I was like, teeth whitening isn't for me.
Yeah, and then so you know how recently
I was filming The Great Kiwi Bake Off?
Yes.
I didn't have time to go see my dude.
Didn't have time to go visit JJ
Queenie. JJ Moofie. Toothy Queenie.
JJ Moofie. Whitey Toothy.
Whitey Toothy. Yeah.
And then you would have received
this advertising, everyone listening,
the purple
high-smile Australian
thing.
And so I was like, screw it.
And then they sell it at a pharmacy and I bought it.
And of course you bought it.
Because I'm a sucker.
And I've tried it, but I thought we could try it on here because...
Wait, so you've got three toothbrushes.
Yes, and I'll use the clear one because I just pulled a hair out of it
and it was sort of short.
I don't want to say it's a pear, but...
Okay, were these in plastic bags?
Yeah, they were in little plastic bags.
Okay, okay, right, right.
I'm lazy, don't worry.
Right, okay.
Yuck!
Anyway, so I'm going to put a little...
What you do is you...
Okay, so can you explain for those that haven't seen the ads?
It's like blonde shampoo.
The purple neutralizes the yellow.
If you've got any yellowing on your teeth,
this purple provides a temporary situation,
a solution where it whitens it a little bit.
So it's not saying it's permanent.
Because my manky teeth have got a little bit of stain from coffee and stuff.
Yeah, no, but they're not like, I wouldn't say any of us,
like my teeth are usually white.
I've been looking at them recently and been like,
oh, what happened? But none of us have like super stained teeth. But it's the same, I wouldn't say any of us, like my teeth are usually white. I've been looking at them recently and been like, ew, what happened?
But none of us have like super stained teeth.
But it's the same because I use purple shampoo
because I'm going back to my blonde life
because it's my best life.
Yeah.
And it takes out the brassy tones in your hair
and makes it cooler.
Right.
So it's the same theory.
So what happened when you used this
when you were filming the television show Bake Off?
Well, I thought it just made my lips purple
and my teeth look grey for about 30 minutes
and then they went back to being boring and yellow.
Yeah, that's the thing. So it's just going to purple my lips.
So all the people that are in the little ad
using it are young and they say the minute you get
to a certain age, your teeth have grey
in them. Right. And it doesn't
neutralise the grey. Excuse me, I'm young.
Yeah, but this guy was like, he was so young
he had a little weird little moustache. It looks black.
This looks like you've put, what was that
paint that you had in school for art? Oh, ink. The ink stuff that weird little moustache. It looks glass, okay. This looks like you've put, what was that paint that you had in school for art?
Oh, ink.
The ink stuff that you'd roll.
It looks.
You've got a glass.
We need to do a before and an after.
Ooh, this is, okay.
Because this toothpaste isn't cheap either.
You've done.
I went over the comment section and people were saying it was just trash.
Hayley Janesprout.
No water.
How much did you spend on this?
I don't even remember.
No water.
So we now brush our teeth.
So you do it for about 40 seconds.
Yep.
Raw dog.
No water.
Raw dog.
And then, yeah, go in there.
Oh, my teeth.
It looks like we're eating a white, a...
A kind of Louis.
Yeah.
Really good in there.
Like, already, if you look right, they look kind of white against the purple.
What's that honey?
That is so good.
So good.
We got that from munching on a Barney, the dinosaur.
Does it matter if I brush it in or does it just matter that it's on the teeth?
No, brush it in. Yeah, it's not getting through the teeth this must be amazing radio oh yeah listening
to three people brush your teeth oh yeah if we would asmr you've got purple lips okay oh god i
got a meeting after this okay take a swig of water swirl it it all around, spit it out. Back under the water. Mm-hmm.
Mm.
Mm.
Okay.
Hair.
Did it work?
I think your teeth just look grey.
Do mine just look grey?
They just look grey. It just looks like you've got purple gums.
Okay, go do another swish.
Okay.
Mm-mm-mm-mm.
Mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mm-mm.
I mean Nah it just looks like we've brushed our mouth
With purple paste
Does it look vawny?
We don't want to hear you spinning that out
It just seems to me
That you've just got like remnants
Of purple
That's what I mean
I think it's absolute BS.
I think it's...
Oh, Harry, he believes it.
Of course he does.
He believes the hype.
I think my teeth still look a bit yellowy.
And my lips are purple.
Yeah, you talk of before and after.
What does it look like in your photo?
Yeah.
Yeah, nah, nothing.
Now it's got purple lips.
Now, Hayley Jane Sproul, how much did you spend on this crap?
I mean, I will say this isn't a scientific experiment that we've just done,
but I don't see any great difference.
Yeah, let me have a little lucky pro.
Are you meant to use this for days on end for it to work,
or is it just a once?
$40.
$40.
Currently on.
It was 29 Australian, not including postage,
when I got served the targeted ad.
We could have gone out for a happy hour at the cocktail place
at the Mexican down the road for $10 cocktails.
That would have made your teeth white.
And we would have got four cocktails
and we would have had kind of red teeth.
I can't hear a word you're saying.
I'm absolutely bewildered by your sparkling white teeth.
Absolute hurly-whiters.
Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
Guys, you won't believe.
How long people on the apps are spending swiping.
Well, you, a few...
Oh, I could absolutely do it forever.
A few weekends ago,
a few weekends ago,
you got to play with your friend's Tinder.
Yeah.
And I love how excited you get.
That would quickly wear off if you were single for any more than a week.
Do you think you would have enjoyed it if the stakes were you need love because you're so alone?
Maybe.
And you'd been looking for someone for so long.
Oh, not...
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
The thrill of the chase, but you've got to have a...
Do you know what they need?
You've got to have an antelope at the end of it, you know?
Do you know what they need to do? And I know you'reelope at the end of it, you know? Do you know what they need to do?
And I know you're about to tell us how long people spend swiping.
I am.
Spoiler alert.
It's going to be a lot,
but they need to fuse dating apps and Teemu together.
Yeah, we're all obsessed with Teemu.
So you swipe for five minutes and you get a super like.
Yeah, yeah.
So it encourages you to spend more time on the app.
Or maybe a potential dating app that could join up and then you get
some points and then you get more shopping?
I don't know. They probably do that because
you know Singles Day in China
is one of the biggest retail
holidays. So they
set it up in competition
to Valentine's Day where you buy something for your
partner obviously but singles don't get it. So on
Singles Day, which is the 11th
of the 11th? I think the 11th of the 11th
I think
11th of November
yes it is
11-11
is this massive retail day
where you buy yourself something
oh my god
if you're single
oh my god
that's just Hayley's life
every day
she's a single
life every second day
that's called engagement day
every day
not anymore
I've been told
well
I don't know if this number
then is going to surprise us
or not
it's an hour a day.
Okay.
But if you take away your sleeping hours, take away eight,
so then we're down to 16 hours, right?
Alive.
Yeah.
You've got eight hours at work.
They reckon you should spend eight at work.
I think that's a lot.
Oh, my gosh.
That's far too many.
If you are doing that, try career and rest.
I just Googled, when are the busiest swiping times?
I don't know if you have research on this.
Thursday, 7 o'clock.
7 till 10 p.m.
On?
But this is on Bumble.
So you want the day.
This is going on.
I mean, what day of the week?
On traffic time.
But I know there's that Thursday dating app that only lets you sort out dates on a Thursday.
But yeah, probably is. And probably Sunday as well. only lets you sort out dates on a Thursday. But yeah,
probably is.
And probably Sunday as well.
Well,
here's a bunch of information,
a bunch of stats,
a study done by Bumble.
Nope,
not done by Bumble.
Done by psychologists.
Even better.
Yeah.
70% of people are left feeling depressed and anxious
after an hour of swiping.
So no different than
any other social media like Instagram, Facebook
or yeah. Exactly. On average
55 minutes swiping each day.
39% of people check
Tinder or Bumble, Hinge,
all of them as soon as they wake up
in the morning. While 48%
swipe just before
bedtime. So in bed. I can see why it would
be a nice bedtime activity.
Yeah, and if you see a hottie, you know, just go with the flow, see what happens.
You know, just see what happens.
Yeah, but also...
For visual stimulation.
Next photo, next photo.
Also, if it's just making people depressed,
do you want that to be the thing you do right before you go to sleep
and then think about while you're going to sleep?
Is it the thing you want to do when you start your day?
Yeah, and then you're
starting your day bad
and ending it bad.
44%.
Don't you guys
get a negative mindset?
What?
No, we're saying
don't start your day
in a negative mindset.
I'm saying,
wouldn't it be better
to do it mid-afternoon
or at least a few hours
before bed?
Every time to swipe
is just the potential
soulmate connection
for a bit there.
Oh, yeah.
Unlike that time
Hayley lost her
friend's future husband
by swiping the wrong way
swiped the wrong way
one in ten
have uh
lied about having kids
and five percent of people
have admitted to not being single
dating apps
he's got a kid
but he's like
he always puts that he does
because
you have to
the ladies love a daddy
what they
he doesn't have a kid
or he does
no he does have a kid
oh right
but he's always like he said a lot of guys he knows with kids that are back out in the dating world are like,
oh no, I don't put that on my father and then that's something I'll tell them later on.
And he's like, oh no, no.
Yeah, right.
They've got to know daddy's a daddy from...
Should I pretend to have a kid?
Yes.
Yes.
I get this because I don't want a kid and I also don't really want to be a stepmom to someone else's kid.
But for some reason, when I see a hot daddy with a kid,
I'm like far out, man.
Like he's doting, he's committed, he doesn't run.
Or he could just have a photo with his cute kid
and he doesn't pay any child support and he's an absent father.
He could be a real piece.
How hot is this person?
Well, now he's a bad boy, so.
Now he's a bad boy, I'm hooked back in.
He's a bad boy, daddy.
Okay, if you had to rate, review or marry Fletch, Vaughn or Hayley, what one would it be?
Okay, I would marry Hayley.
I would have sex...
Wait, which one is it?
No, no, no, no.
It's only rate, review, marry.
Oh, okay.
No comment.
I could have sex with the podcast. I don't know how that would work. Give us a sexy little no, no. It's only rate, review, marry. Oh, okay. No comment. I could have sex with the podcast.
I don't know how that would work.
Give us a sexy little review, though.