ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 2nd August 2023

Episode Date: August 1, 2023

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The ZM Podcast Network. The Fletchforn and Hayley Big Pod. Treat yourself to McCafe coffee with my Macca's rewards. Good morning, welcome to the show. Fletchforn and Hayley, two minutes past six. A little bit dusty this morning, a couple of us. Oh my God, because we were celebrating Patrick and his pies. It's Pie Awards last night.

I don't know how, but they invite media every year, but we were invited to the New Zealand Pie Awards last night, and it was so wholesome. And we were on Patrick's, who won the Supreme. Patrick Lamb. Yeah. King of Pies. King of Pies.

We were sat with his three children, and we didn't realise it until we were like, what are you guys doing here? They were like, oh, our mum and dad have a bakery. We were like, oh, cool. And then they won all these awards, and we're just like, oh, our mum and dad have a bakery. We were like, oh, cool. And then they won all these awards and we're just like, okay, we're at the winnings table. This is great. You're with the legendary

land. Yeah. The two princes and the princess of pipes. If we're ever in Bethlehem or driving through, we have to get a pie because, god, those pies sound so good. Duck? Are you surprised Jesus was born there? No, different Bethlehem.

I think it's the same Bethlehem. Is it? Yeah. Oh, okay. Wait, Jesus is from Bethlehem, Tauranga? Yes. Wow. Yeah. This whole time.

This whole time. It's a blessed land. Right, okay. He would make more of a big deal of it. I thought it was just a good land for kiwi fruit and avocados. Also that. Yeah, right. But that's what they mean by and avocados. Also that. Yeah, right. But that's what they mean

by blessed land. Blessed be the pie. Right, yes. Oh my God. I just simply must try these pies. Yeah. We're going to do a little bit of a rundown of the evening.

But spoiler alert, no pies were eaten at the Pie Awards. There wasn't a single pie. There wasn't a single pie. I was shocked. Unless there were pies after we left.

I will say once their Supreme Winner was announced, we did... I needed nunnies. We needed nunnies. Yeah. You did dip. Yeah, we did.

Now, on the show this morning after 8.30, Girl Maths is back. Yeah. It sure is. We've done this a couple of times, but today on Girl Maths, we will be joined by economist Brad Olsen. At his request. Friend of the show. I don't know if Girlmast is going to work with him here.

Bad news, Brad was like, what is this? What are you encouraging here? Yep. And he wants to sit on a session of Girlmast. But I think we should also touch base with him about, you know, where we are. How's the economy? Also on today's show, this was discussed during some pre-drinks at my house yesterday. Hayley will explain why she has seven one-star reviews on Uber.

Seven. Seven. Seven. My Lord. Seven. Seven. The top six is on the way. This will be before seven.

Yeah, are people using Cameo to get celebrities to dump their partners for them? That's a novel way to break up with someone. Oh, don't break up with me in a novel way. Would it soften the blow, though, if your favourite celebrity was to deliver the message? Oh, my God, your favourite celebrity, and they find them on Cameo and pay them? I mean, maybe.

If Jason Momoa sent me a Cameo saying, hey, everyone wants to leave you, I'd be like, sweet, what are you going to do about it? I dare you to take me. Also, happy birthday to leave you. I'd be like, sweet. What are you going to do about it? I dare you to take me. Also, happy birthday to Jason Momoa yesterday. How old was he yesterday? Who cares? He's a fine wine.

43? 44? Is he? Yeah. No, I didn't slide into the DMs. Everybody just frantically. Did you not? Trying to play it cool.

I wondered if you were. 44. Is he the same age as me? Yeah. Get out of town. I mean, I would have thought so. You two are almost interchangeable. Oh, thank you.... 44. Is he the same age as me? Yeah. Get out of town. I mean, I would have thought so. You two are almost interchangeable. Oh, thank you, thank you, yeah.

Couple of hot babes. Yeah. Right, so the top six, you're going to, what, give us the top six celebrity... Top six celebrities to dump your loser boyfriend. This is actually very wholesome. This is actually really sweet. There's a new TikTok trend going around based on the Barbie film,

which, have you seen it yet, Forney? No. Oh, I'm making a stand. I think it's the gay agenda. I won't have that shoved up my throat. Yeah, you're right. He's had enough of that. I've had enough everywhere I turn.

I'm really looking forward to seeing that Jim Caviezel film, though. You know, dealing with the child sex traffickers that are Hollywood. Sort of a real metaphorical. Oh, yeah, I've read that movie's gone a bit crazy. Yeah, okay, no. No, you need to go and see Barbie and Oppenheimer. Yeah, I know. You need to sort, yeah.

I need to sort my shit out. Maybe I'll Oppenheimer on Friday. There's plenty of everything in afternoon Oppenheimer on Friday, if you know what I mean. Yeah, a little slopping home. You two sort it out. Hayley can be forgiven because she's a little bit hungover. I like that. I like that a lot.

Anyway, grow up. You can blow up my New Mexico. All right. It's an uninhabitable wasteland down there. Well, okay. So this new TikTok trend is called What's a Ken's Job? Now in the film. Yeah, for those that haven't seen it.

Yeah, Ken's job is beach. Because you know how like each Barbie or Ken had like a job. And Ryan Gosling's Ken is beach. Because you know how like each Barbie or Ken had like a job and Ryan Gosling's Ken is beach. And that's all he does is just beach. Perfect. And the scene where it sets it up is so funny. Yeah. And so it's kicked off this trend,

which is people videoing their boyfriends and being like, this is my Ken. His job is date. And then it says like, he can always take him to anywhere and any wedding and he always has a suit ready to go. Or like my Ken, Aaron, Aaron Ken, my Ken's job is build. Yes. You know?

Because he's doing a lot of that at the moment. Your Ken is farm I am the Ken It's not really a farm It's a farmlet My Ken's job is Yeah but have you seen like Barbie sets when it is a farm It is very hobby farm

It is very farmlet It's not like Barbie's like stressed And wondering when the rain's going to stop And looking outside and seeing an absolute lack of winter stock feed No you can't have that in Barbie land No no Barbie land is just happy There is no farming to do.

There's one person shared, My Ken's job is fish. He thinks he's really good at fish. He comes with waders, a mullet, and his own fly rod. My Ken's job is bike. He doesn't care about fashion any other time, but he has all these cute outfits for bike and gets so excited when he thinks he looks good doing bike.

So that's a cyclist. Right, gotcha. So everyone's just celebrating their partners and what they're good at. Yeah. Not like my Ken's job is radio presenter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, what is the thing he's best at?

And that's his job. My Ken's job is compliment. Surf. What about if my Ken's job is golf? And then it's just, he's just gone. You know, golf Kens, they're never at the dream house. Yeah, yeah. They're always at golf.

My Ken's job is golf. I've lost him. Yeah. I can't find where he is. I will never get him back. I imagine he's at golf. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.

Silly little pole. Silly little pole. It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Are you good at ironing?

It's today's silly little poll. Respondees said, yes, 40%. No, 60%. I just don't do it. Like, I just maybe once a year before a wedding. But you know how to do it, right? I don't have an iron. I don't how to do it, right? Eh. I don't have an iron.

I don't even know if we've got an iron. We've got a steamer. Is that why you always, oh, a steamer. A steamer's good because you hang it, right? You steam it and it just relaxes the fabric and it falls with gravity. Oh, see, I'd love that instead of an iron. Yeah. It's just all the little nooks and crannies of a shirt. I'm just like, eh.

No, you'd steam it. Get in there. But if you're wearing a jacket over the shirt, it's only important to get the bits you can see, and then later on when the jacket comes off, no one really cares by then anyway. If you have to wear a shirt to work, it's a bit of a different story.

Yeah. I'm sure that people that have to iron every day for work or at the weekends would be good at it. My mum would iron my dad's shirts, and she'd do the week. Oh, yeah. She'd do it a week at a time. Iron like five shirts for my dad, hang them up. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

Right. I normally just go to an event, get it dry cleaned, and then just leave it until the next event in a plastic bag. Yeah, and then hang it up. Yeah. But you couldn't do that if you wore shirts to work every week. That would be a very expensive way to iron your shirts. No, no, no.

Yeah. Well, Alan says, I iron my partner's shirts for work just because, that would be a very expensive way to iron your shirts. No, no, no. Yeah. Well, Alan says, I iron my partner's shirts for work just because he's useless at it and it makes me look bad if he's scruffy. Now, why would it make her look bad if he was scruffy? That's on him. This isn't the 1950s. Can't imagine Alan as a man. No, Alan is

E-L-L-A-N. Right. Wow. However, it makes me feel like I'm a housewife, so I end up rage ironing. Oh, okay. She's got some internal conflict there with the ironing. Yeah, it sounds like you need to get him a steamer. Yeah, get a steamer. Get a little steamer.

But head over steam and then it would be wet, because that's the other thing about steaming. You can't over steam her. Oh, yeah. She's a bit wet. A bit wet. Well, Hayley, you shocked Jared and I and said you meant to iron inside out. Yeah. I didn't know that.

Because the outward fabric, you don't want it getting shiny. And lots of fabrics go shiny when you iron them. I do want an outside shiny. You want to make clothes more shiny? Yeah. Well, then iron it on the outside surface. Hannah said I'm great at drying my ironing because my dryer has an iron setting, which is the same thing, right?

What? Steams it a bit. Does it steam it just at the end? I don't know. I don't know how that works. But I do. If something's in the dryer and you pull it out and it's all non-crinkled, just hang it up.

Right. Or, like, drape it over the laundry basket. Yeah. Don't fold it. Iron dry on tumbler settings. The laundry is left slightly damp to make light work of ironing your garments. Ideal for shirts. The downside is that you need to iron the clothes straight away for maximum effectiveness.

So it seems like Hannah might be putting on the ironing setting, but then just not actually doing the ironing that it says. Yeah. Surely that can't be right. If it says that it's ironing, what does iron mean on a dryer? The setting is meant to relax the clothes, reduce the creases, and make it easy to remove and flatten the creases as you iron. It just sounds damp.

It sounds sweet, crinkly clothes. Yeah. I'd never chuck a dress shirt in the dryer. No, I don't. It's fabric suicide. Dryers are fabric suicide. I chuck Aaron's shirts in the dryers, but he doesn't wear a business shirt. No, no, that's just a shirt shirt.

That's fine. Casual shirt. Jillian says, too many years of practice, but he doesn't wear a business shirt. No, no, that's just a shirt shirt. That's fine. Casual shirt. Jillian says, too many years of practice, at least 40 years ironing. Wow. Was that a silver anniversary? Yeah, it sounds like it. Diamond gold, one of those ones. Rachel.

Okay, this is a long one. Rachel. I was in the Navy. Oh, okay. Thank you for your service, ma'am. Thank you for your service, ma'am. Salute you. Don't do it often now.

Anything wrinkled can have a quick spin in the dryer if it's not a special occasion, but I do take joy in watching slash making my children iron their uniforms on a Sunday night for school. The pride is short-lived when I come home and see that the uniform's on the floor after work on Monday. Yeah.

Yeah. Is that why a lot of school uniforms are just like a polo material? They don't crease. Oh, maybe. We had shirts. Yeah. Yeah. Is that why a lot of school uniforms are just like a polo material? They don't crease. Oh, maybe. We had shirts. Yeah. We moved to a polo.

We went from a grey, like, cottony thing to a blue polo during my time at school. Also, why are school uniforms, the most popular colour in a school uniform is blue? Riddle me that. Oh, I don't know. Was it a school sports tournament yesterday? Like 95% of the teams had some sort of blue in their uniform. Yeah. A couple of greens.

My whole uniform was blue and green. Yeah, ours was blue and grey. But mostly blue. Yeah. Blue skirt, blue shirt, blue cardigan. Anybody go to a green school? Anybody go to a green school? Oh, no.

Your whole uniform is green? No. Yuck. I'll say it. Yuck. Yuck. I just don't care about you. I feel like Mor no. The whole uniform is green. Ooh. Yuck. I'll say it. Yuck. Yuck. I just don't care about you. I feel like Morrinsville College

would be green. Dude, Morrinsville College was a sharp blue. Oh, no. It's got a real green vibe to it. A light blue and a dark blue. Okay. Moved away from the grey.

Yeah, right. It just never works out for me, says Laura. Literally, in my vows to my husband, that I'll only do it once every two years if he plays his cards right. Okay. Is she still two and if he places cards right. Okay. She still told him to iron it?

Yeah, I'm not sure. Bloody old Laura, once every two years. My Nana irons everything, including my Grandad's undies. Not sure why. How good is ironing things, like when someone irons a T-shirt? Oh, no. It doesn't need to be ironed, but it's ironed. No one has time for that.

Iron a T-shirt. I just hang my T-shirts up, and then they're fine. I just fold them. Danielle says, I don't own an iron. However, I'll whip out the hair straightener if I'm desperate. Same. Especially like around the bottom of a hem or the bottom of a skirt or something like that. Yeah, run it right around.

Just give it a little bit for it. Good for ties. A little GHD. Lisa said, lose the iron, get yourself a steamer from Kmart. Way less stress getting the creases out., get yourself a steamer from Kmart. Way less stress getting the creases out. How much is a steamer from Kmart? That put me off when you said steamer before I imagined they'd be expensive.

52 bucks, the handheld one. There's a garment steamer for 69. And that nice sits up. It's got a coat hanger on it that you hang the clothes on and steam them while they're on there. Yeah, I've got one of those. But not from Kmart.

Yeah, see, I was thinking $30 would be my limit for that. Or a three-tier food steamer. So you could get your broccoli, your cauliflower and your shirt done all at once. Yeah, but then your shirt smelled like cauliflower

and broccoli. Is that a bad thing? Is that a bad thing? I don't mind. Is that a bad thing? Oh, Jared, producer Jared said he used to boil the kettle

and hold it over his shirts. You just got to get them and have a hot shower. Yeah. That was always our trick. Okay. Doesn't get it all out, but it's something. Great proof you need a better extractor fan for the bathroom. Yeah.

Play ZM's Fletch Vodden Ailey. Play ZM. If you work in an office, it can sometimes be a little bit dry. You know, the air con makes everything dry. Yeah. The walls are often grey or white. So you're talking dry, you're talking physical dry. No, I'm talking metaphorically dry.

Dreary. You know, there's not a lot of inspiration that goes into a lot of corporate offices. It's kind of changed,. You know, there's not a lot of inspiration that goes into a lot of corporate offices. It's kind of changed, though, over the years. Like, you know, you have the fun kind of Google offices or you might have an office. Companies with a lot of money. Yeah. But I would say your stock standard corporate skyscraper high-rise building. Nothing.

Not a lot of inspiration. And it can make for a bit of a boring workplace. And then you're sitting there uninspired by the surroundings and the click clack of the keyboard and the, you know, the screens. And what's it all about? A way to brighten your day, you need to draw, you need to join the secret drawer club. Now this is where in your desk you have, you know,

you've usually got those little like console things, like little, not consoles, but little like three set of drawers next to you. Yeah. One's usually got a key on it because that's where you put your petty cash. Yeah. Then you've got another one and then you've got your big files down the bottom. Turn one of those drawers into a secret drawer. I think most people would do this anyway, wouldn't they?

No. Snacks. To the level of like someone put their bottom drawer and made it into like a little fun diorama kind of situation with like lights, like disco lights. They open it and it just kind of puts a smile on their face. It puts a smile on their dial. There's lollies in there.

There's fairy lights. There's all sorts of treats. Yeah, I think if I had a desk at work, I mean we've got kind of a locker that we share and there's a few lollies in there. There are some lollies. Along with my coffee stash and my laptop. But that's good because it's out there. But if I was

sat beside that drawer all day, it'd just be opening non-stop and I'd be eating whatever was in there. I know, yeah. And then I would have developed a problem. Yeah, but for some time, I know that the girlies have a drawer. Carlween, you've been rocking a secret drawer for a while. Well, it's not secret anymore.

Oh. Thanks for that. Well, I was told if ever I was menstruating that there is a drawer full of goodies. Oh, okay. Yeah. We have a menstruation station. Yeah.

Is that all that's in the secret drawer? No. Or lollies? Is there lollies? Yeah, lots of lollies. There's a packet of squiggles currently. You would want to. I know.

Hokey pokey? No, the candy ones. Oh, okay. No, I'm good. I'm good. Okay, I don't want your secret drawer squiggles now. They're more or less exactly the same. No, they don't. Come on now.

The squiggles, the candy squiggles taste like, oh, clinkers. Yeah, there's clinkers. Yeah. Clinkers were yum. Yum. Yeah, and then just a few things that are secretive. Maybe there's a bottle of Prosecco. I don't know.

What? But it won't be chilled. You can't drink that. Warm. Chuck, I keep icing it. How big is this drawer? Are you icing up your Prosecco? Yeah, I ice up my Prosecco sometimes.

Emergency ice. Is this the bottom drawer? It's the bottom drawer. Oh, yeah, because the bottom drawer is the big one. Okay. I would keep a kitten. A kitten? Like a little cat. And you'd open it and be asleep. You'd be the big one. Okay. I would keep a kitten. A kitten? Like a little cat and you'd open it and be asleep

and you'd be like, meow. Hello. That feels like that's not... Not good? ...the humane thing to do for the cat. Okay, I won't put a kitten in there. Yeah. You could put, what about like a little massage machine?

What about a foot spa? And you could open the bottom thing and then just turn your seat and pop your feet into the foot spa. Is that frowned upon in the office? you had a 9 to 5 office job? Because they're quite noisy. They're like, niggas. Then they bubble away. And then you couldn't just quickly jump up and go to the photocopier.

Unless you had some slides, you could take your burps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get some of those disposable slippers that you get at massage places. You'd have the drawer and then a towel next to it to dry the tootsies, then some slip-on massage slides, and then you come back and slip. You'd have the drawer and then a towel next to it to dry the tootsie. Yeah. There's been some slip-on massage slides. And then you come back and slip them straight back into the sink. Yeah, beautiful. And then end of the day, just tip the water down the sink

and put it back in your secret drawer. Oh, my God. We need secret drawers in this studio. Play. ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Now, I love a holiday with pals. We've got our friends, we call them, our friends, who we've gone to Barleyworth.

We've got the Coromandel with them. Why do you say friends like that? F-R-A-N-D-S. It's just what we call each other. Friends. Friends. Right. So, I mean, that's a big step going with friends on an overseas.

The first time you go with friends or new friends overseas, it's always a roll of the dice. Yeah, totally. Because you don't know how they travel. And travelling changes a person. That sides of them come out that you're like, huh, interesting. But no, we travel well together and that's why

we'll do it again and again. Yeah, right. You found people that you travel well with. Yes, but you've got to be careful and I think I have some friends who I would never travel with. Oh my god. Why did you just look at me? I mean, we technically travel for work. Yes, but you've got to be careful and I think I have some friends who I would never travel with. Oh my god, why did you just look at me? I mean, we technically travel for work. What are you talking about? Look, I feel like

I'm in the middle of you two. Vaughn would, if we went on a trip, Vaughn would want to like hang out slowly, right? And just like lounge a bit. Well, it's a holiday, take your time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would want to do a little bit of hanging out, but also like I actively rest.

Yeah. And you'd be up at five for a full body workout and a swim in the pool and be pacing the room until we woke up. Well, we've got to get to the museum before it opens. We've got to beat all the crowds. Why do we have to get to the museum before it opens? Why are we to beat all the crowds. Why do we have to get to the museum before it opens? Why are we going to the museum? It's number one on TripAdvisor.

Can't we just lounge by the pool and go to the bar and then do something really active and fun at night? Anyway, see, I don't know if we'd travel well together overseas. How far down the TripAdvisor list does a museum have to be before you won't go to it? Like, say it's the 10th most popular thing to do in the city. Are you still going to go to the museum?

No, probably not if it's 10, but number one. I'd go to number one. I'd just go to the famous museums. But I don't know that I'd be going to many weird museums. Anyway, there's a... Excuse me. Did you have a big night last night? Yeah, I've got...

The dust is coming up. It's the pie awards. There's a woman who travels a lot and some of the time she travels with her friends and she shares all of her videos. Her's the Pie Awards. Yeah. There's a woman who travels a lot and some of the times she travels with her friends and she shares all of her videos. Her name's Tiff. Tiff, okay.

Imagine it's short for Tiffany but I won't assume. And she has shared her five tips for travelling with friends. Okay. To keep it cool, calm and collected.

Number one, you've got to choose your friends wisely. Oh yeah, 100%. So if you already know that you love each other, you always have a good night out, always a good time, but

you're totally different in what you want to do or how you relax or what your interests are, probably not the friend. Or if you already bicker a little bit in a fun, playful way, because we're only hanging out for a day, that's fine. That's not the kind of person you travel with. It's going to wear thin. The next one is set expectations before setting off, such as budget, chosen activities.

So we might say, well, what museums are we going to, Fletch? And you say, I want to go to these three. And me and Vaughan will go, we'll go to one. Pick one. Yeah. And then we know. Restaurants and food, accommodation, transport, like have all of that set before you go so that you're not just sort of arriving and going,

what do you mean we're going to four museums today? Yeah. I'm really making it sound like all you do is do museums. You know that I'd rather be at the bar for the happy hour cocktails. Yeah, I'm making you out to sound like a loser. You really are, but I'm a great fun guy. You're a cool guy. Yeah, cool guy. The third tip

is make some space. Set aside, if you want to do something, say, okay, let's have a little bit of afternoon time by ourselves or just in our couples. Yeah, I like that idea. We want to do this. You guys want to do that or let's just meet up at 7 for dinner. I think that's really important.

Right. My parents, because my parents... Oh, yeah, you don't want to spend every day together. God, no. Because my parents live in Italy half the year. Right, Mum's just messaged saying they went to the Cat Museum and Amsterdam is a museum of cats. Is there? In Amsterdam.

In Amsterdam. That's a museum-heavy city. Hopefully not too many like... Oh, yeah, because that would be low down the list of museums. You've got so many. The Vincent Van Gogh museum was a bit shit. Was it? Yeah, I was just like, what are we going to get here? And it was just a whole bunch

of paintings. Yeah, well that's what he did. Yeah, I know, but I wanted a bit more interactive stuff. Did you want his ear on display? His ear on display would be great. Yeah, that'd be great. I don't think it would have survived. Or in a jar, maybe in a jar of like... Formaldehyde. But on a stick. I don't want to see it floating at the top. I want it sort of like displayed like it's pitchforked in the bottom.

And close to the side of the jar, otherwise you won't see it. Close to the front. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. The Cat Cafe D Cut and Cubbinet is the cat cabinet. It's not like full of tabbies, is it? Ducat Cubbinet. Do they have nice ones? Ducat Cubbinet.

Do they have nice ones? I can't even see any cats, to be honest. Yeah, it's just like, he's a tabby cat. It's feline art. So it's art made about and for felines. Her last two tips, and I think she's actually got four tips. She says five. I think she's got four because she says plan activities ahead of time.

Now, that to me is expectations before setting off. Oh, she's doubled up the list. Same thing. She needed five. She's run out. And then the fifth one is agree on rules for drinking. Because, you know, you get all that loose lip. If that even needs to be discussed, these people you shouldn't be travelling

with. Yeah, I agree. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah, blah. This is the Top Six. Hello there. Today's Top Six. There's an online trend having a little resurgence. When Cameo,

the service where you can hire a celebrity to make a video for you essentially. Yeah. And you pay through the site. They get a cut. Cameo gets a cut. You get the video.

Some people make bank off these things. Well, you know, the in-betweeners, which I'm sure probably wouldn't watch quite as well now as it did when it first came out, but Jay, the guy off the in-betweeners...

He's one of the most highly... That's right. I mean, we talked about that. He was the first Cameo millionaire, and he just said he'd just sit down for an hour or two a day and just call people briefcase wankers or bus wankers or... Yeah, and he's like... It was just insane, and the more he did it, the more

requests he got and he said it was just a couple hours work a day and he just played video games and mucked around with his mates and became a millionaire. Jeepers. Wow. Good aim. Okay. Because I always think that if I didn't work in the public eye, I'd get an OnlyFans and do feet stuff. Yeah.

You can do feet stuff now on OnlyFans. No. But you just never say, but then you're a shocker if there's a camera and it was on your feet, you'd be like, Hi, it's me, Hayley Sproul. And you'd be like, These are my feet. Oh no, what have I done?

You'd be like down, you'd be like, the camera's got to be on my face. Also, I don't know, are your feet worth... It doesn't matter. I don't think. Really? Just, okay. I'm in the allure of they don't know. Are your feet worth? It doesn't matter. I don't think. Really? Just, okay. I'm in the allure of they don't know what faces and bodies attach to the feet. Well, I'm on WikiFeed, remember?

Yeah, I know. And I've got a four out of five. Oh, wow. Okay. You've got a four out of five. It's 80%. Yeah. It's 80%.

I apologise. Do you think my finger toes would make me some money? Yeah, I've got sort of short finger toes. Yeah, but there's a foot for everybody, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I don't fet of short finger toes. Yeah, but people have, everybody's for everybody, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Short fetish people. Some people love them or they hate them.

Well, I have actual celebrities on Cameo and actual prices that you can pay to dump your loser boyfriend. Because this is the trend. Yeah. Number six on the list at $16 New Zealand dollars. Oh, okay. This is very, you know, low-end stuff,

is Pixie the Furry. Now, Pixie is a man that dresses up as a fox. Okay. Or a wolf. I'm not quite sure. Definitely some sort of canine branch of the animal umbrella. Interesting. And he'll do anything.

Okay. For $16. In his wolf costume. How is this guy famous? Where's he from? Apparently he's popped up on TikTok. Okay. But big in the

furry community. Oh, okay. Yeah, right. So if you have moved into the furry community and that's why your relationship

needs to end, you could definitely use this furry to do that. Number five on the list, kind of sticking to the animal thing, this one will cost

you $25 New Zealand dollars. Do you remember that guy that was like, I'm a snake. I'm a slippery little snake. He's around. He's still around. $25 New Zealand dollars to get Matt Keck from the I'm a slippery little snake video

to break up with your partner. That pops into my head all the time. Yeah. I don't know why. I'm a slippery little snake. Especially if you were breaking up with someone because you cheated on them. I know, because they're a slippery little snake. Or they're just a slippery little snake. You could say, yeah because they're a slippery little snake. Or they're just a slippery little snake.

You could say, yeah, you're a slippery little snake. You've got to go. Number four on the list. He's actually been on the show. Rohit Roy, the guy that doesn't drink fizzy drink anymore. Oh, yeah. And he goes, hi, everybody. Today's 1,000 days without fizzy.

Is he still going? No fizzy for me. Yeah, he always pops up on my face. Wow. He said his eyesore, I put them on Instagram reels or something the other day, and he said his wife asked him to hold a can of fizzy. And he said he almost did, but he didn't. So how much is he?

29 New Zealand dollars for him to break up with you on. He's got a lot of followers, though. 106,000. Wow. Instagram or TikTok? I'm on Instagram. What are his feed on WikiFeed? Yeah.

Right. Yeah, they're looking great because of the lack of fizzy. Our number three on the list are the top six celebrities that dump your loser boyfriend. If you've got 40 New Zealand dollars, you can get Niles from The Nanny. Niles? 90s and early 2000s TV legend Niles from The Nanny,

the French TV show to break up with your partner. So you can do that in a posh British accent. In a posh accent, yeah. And I hope he's in his butler's outfit. Yes. Niles. Niles. Number two on the list are the top six celebrities to use

to break up with your loser boyfriend. If he smokes too much weed and you've got $150, you can soften the blow that you're leaving him by using Chong from Cheech and Chong. Tommy Chong. Wow. For $150, New Zealand dollars, blow that you're leaving him by using Chong from Cheech and Chong. Tommy Chong. Wow. For $150, New Zealand Dollars will break up with you. That's a blaster in the past.

Yeah, I know. But great for that stone to break up. Yeah. And number one on the list of the top six celebrities to use to dump your boyfriend. This one's high end. $1,123 New Zealand Dollars to have Brian Cox, a.k.a. Logan Roy from Succession, tell your partner to F off. I mean, that's all his videos would be, right? Because that character on Succession, that was his most popular.

So you, I've just Googled cameo take 25%. Oh, wow. So like an agent's fee. Yeah, so you get 75. So Logan Roy will be making bank. Over $800. Every time he tells someone to F off. And I bet he's just some old mate and he just presses record

and someone else edits it for him. 100%. Gets it all done. Mention you do like 10 after breakfast. You have breakfast. You wake up and then do 10 of those. Yeah. And then you've got some spending money.

It doesn't take much. If you go on Brian Cox, his page, he just has got a low angle. He's just gone, okay. That's what I was going to see what his videos. Here you go. But then I didn't because it's probably

going to be very sweary. Oh yeah, 100%. Oh yeah, very sweary. Well, there you go. If you need some inspiration

to break up with someone, easy peasy, do it on Cameo. Play ZM's Fletch Vaughn and Hayley. Play ZM. Well, this is a mystery. Well, a mystery no more, my friend.

Mystery. A mystery no more. It's been solved by four teenagers in a Great Dane in a van that definitely doesn't have a warrant of fitness and pongs a little bit of marijuana. Well, I was in the Bay of Plenty in Tauranga, a teacher,

Miss Haka, Mrs. Haka? Look, I'm not sure of her marital status. Miss Haka? No, it's Haka. Miss? Miss Haka?

You couldn't see this because it's the radio, but simply the best reaction we've seen to the producers is Haka? Because in the story it says Haka. And Carwen gave us this

shrug of the shoulders like, eh. Sophie, I mean, I don't want to call you Sophie. You're a teacher. Good morning Miss Haka. You can call me Sophie. No, I can't. Good morning, Sophie. Good morning. Good morning. Now,

this was the story in the news. When did this happen? Last week. A week ago? Yeah, last Tuesday, yeah. You turned up to your house and you found a pole in your driveway. Yes. And you were like, how did this pole get here?

Yeah, I was pretty confused. At first I thought it was a delivery of some sort, possibly for my neighbour because I wasn it was a delivery of some sort, possibly for my, well, for my neighbour, because I wasn't expecting a poll. Yeah. And so I thought, you know, I'm just going to have to move it out of the way when I get out of my car.

Yeah. I did that and I just sort of stood there in shock. I was like, and looked up and down at it for a bit. And yeah, cemented in. No moving it. In the middle of your driveway. Now, I immediately, my mind went to a student prank, Sophie. Yeah.

Me too. Did you think that? No, that's the last thing I thought. Like, I, you know, I would be quite proud if one of my students or any of my students did that. Don't say that. No, no, no. No, they're going to do it this time.

Don't say that. No, no, no. That sounds like a challenge. Don't say that. To that mug, I think. No, no, no. No, they're going to do it this afternoon. Don't say that. No, no, no. That sounds like a challenge. Hey, like, any challenge is a good challenge for them, I think. Yeah. So, okay, a concreted poll. And was it meant, so what, let's, you know now,

the mystery's been solved. Who did it? Who did it? Who done it? I am not going to say their name, the company's name, because I can imagine that they get a bit of a stink right from this. Yes. And I don't want to be that person that does that to them.

She's good. They were very apologetic and a bit embarrassed. Because I said to them when I was having a yarn with them, I was like, because I said it was going to be for a gate. And I said, it doesn't even make sense where the pole is. Why would I put a gate there? They just shook their heads. It was quite the muck up.

They must have had measurements of how long the gate was going to be there when they got to your place and they're like, this is weird. Yeah, what the hell is your line? It's three metres from the fence.

It's three metres from the fence. Did they get the address wrong and just turn up at yours thinking it was someone else's? Yeah, yeah. That's what it turned out to be. Now, the pole I'm looking at, the pole looks to be two and a half, three metres out of the ground.

That's a massive gate. And like I say, it just makes no sense for where it is. It's not as tall as I initially thought. Like, I can touch the top of it and I'm not the tallest person. Okay, okay. Yeah, so, but yeah, like I say, just nothing about it made sense. And I said to people, I was like, if I was to do something on my property, wouldn't I meet the person first and, like, go through it?

Yeah, or to just turn up to an empty house. Yeah, but was it just that they were, like, go through it. Yeah, or to just turn up to an empty house. Yeah, but was it just that they were, like, given instructions, like, oh, we're at work, just put the pole in? You must have. Oh. Must have, yeah. How bad did they muck up the address?

Like, was it for the neighbours, or was it just a difference? Yeah, it was someone on my street, yeah. Right. So it was, yeah. How did you get the pole out? Well, I got home and it was gone with the guys there waiting to apologise to me. So, yeah, they must have had to, like, cut it out

because they've cemented over where it is. So I've got a nice little patch on my driveway now. That would drive me nuts. That would drive me nuts. I know because it doesn't match the rest of the concrete. I'd have to get them to concrete the whole driveway. Yeah, I mean, is that an unreasonable ask? They're whacking your driveway in.

Why not? It does need a bit of an upgrade, but, you know, I'm not too precious with my driveway, yeah. Wow. Oh, my God, but you're a good sport about it all because, yeah, what a random, it's so random that this would happen. Very random. I know, yeah.

We're driving crazy not knowing why and how this happened. Yeah, at least you got to the bottom of it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad I can answer to everyone now that's following up about the polls. Because it was quite a, it went viral. Like, the whole nation was like, okay, we need to find out how this mystery poll happened. Do you know what's nice? It was nice, Miss Hunker, just having something to talk about that wasn't dreadful.

Yeah. Yeah. Because mystery polls.ful. Yeah. Because mystery polls. It's been light-hearted banter and, you know, like I say, there wasn't much I could do about it and I like to pick my battles.

Are you off to school today? What are we teaching? Yeah, I'm in everyone's favourite subject, English. Hey, it was my favourite. Yeah. I just had a bad teacher in the last year. I'm in everyone's favourite subject English Hey it was my favourite Yeah Oh yeah I just had a bad teacher

In the last year She killed my passion for it But I can tell you're not That sort of teacher Yeah no I had a great teacher In my last year Really brought my passion alive

Yeah What are you studying In English at the moment For like your senior class A bit of Shakespeare A bit of Oh we're doing writing Which they

They I think they should know How to do that By the Amataka To be honest You know how to do that by now, Masaka. You know, I tell them that. I'm like, this isn't the first time you've done writing, surely. I try and, yeah, so... Well, Sophie, have a fantastic day.

Thank you so much. We are so glad the mystery poll mystery has been solved. Yes. Me too. We can finally rest. We can. And actually, you're in Tauranga, right?

Yeah. We're going to talk next about the pie awards, the winner, the again winning. Oh yeah. Patrick's Pies in Bethlehem,

Tauranga. Have you had one? Not from there, no. Well, you simply must. You simply must. Off you go,

off you drop, now they'll be open. It's going to be Harman this weekend. I love me a pie. It's going to be Harman this weekend, fresh off another win. Play.

ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. Man, what a fun night we had last night. Randomly invited to the New Zealand Supreme Pie Awards. Yeah, the Bakels. It's 25th year. Yeah. And apparently they go all out at these every year. They invite media every year.

So that's kind of how we got invited. We got told it's the night of nights. And boy, they were not wrong, these people. And it was black tie. So everyone was all dressed up. Schnazzy, you had tux on. We had a bit of a bridal moment with Shannon. Jared in his suit.

I wore a tux. Yeah. I was trying to attract, you know. The ladies. The ladies. Jared in his suit. I wore a tux. Yeah. Trying to attract, you know. The ladies. The ladies. I put it on and I was like, man. Big lesbian energy.

And it was really working for me. And you wore some, explain the socks. Because some people on Instagram thought you were wearing a home detention bracelet. Yeah. You may have been the unnamed radio host who was four times over the alcohol breath limit. I would like to confirm that is not me. Yeah, I know. I wore these socks that are like see-through polka dot

and they've got a black band around the ankles. And then because my pants were slightly too cropped, you could see the black bands. And yeah, it did look like I had two ankle bracelets on. So apparently every year, you know, they go all out and And we heard this. And then we get there to the table. And we look around.

And there's this 75-piece orchestra. Like, full, like an orchestra with a grand piano, a harp, horns, trombones. An opera singer. A soprano. Oh, my God. She was unreal. What did she sing? Something in Italian.

Katy Perry. It was Italian Katy Perry. she sing? Something in Italian. Katy Perry. Oh. It was Italian Katy Perry. Baby, what a firework. She was amazing. Katy or Beryl. There was ballroom dancers. Oh, my gosh.

It was just insane. And they did a, now you kind of pulled out last minute. Yeah. What was the excuse you gave, just so we're on the same page? I don't know. What did you tell people? Because I haven't said anything yet. I just said you were sick.

Okay, I was sick. I said you came down with a little stomach thing. Yeah, I had a stomach thing. But here's the vibe, right? The orchestra starts, like the lights dim a bit. We're like, ooh. And then we get a message, please turn to face the orchestra. So we all turn and they go.

Star Wars. You missed out. You missed out. And it was insane. They played the whole Star Wars opening overture. Wow. And they had Star Wars clips on the screens. And then Di Henwood, who was emceeing, comes out and he's just like,

here's a bit of Star Wars for you. No relevance to the Pi Awards. Just Star Wars. Beautiful. It was so much fun. And just seeing all the winners, it was such a wholesome night. It was so wholesome. And just seeing all the winners, it was such a wholesome night. It was so wholesome. As I mentioned earlier this morning,

we were sat at this table with a small collection of people, and three of whom were the children of the family that won the Supreme. And like Patrick Lamb. Yeah, you guys are like Patrick Lamb. I was like, again, this guy wins. All the time, yeah. For his last night, the Supreme Pie Award for the gourmet meat category, roast duck, onion and mushroom pie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Available at Patrick's Pies, 19 Bethlehem Road, Bethlehem Town Centre, Tauranga. Postcode 3110. Like, I'm kind of in that vulnerable, like, not too hungover mood. There's a dust. But that would be so good in me right now, one of those pies. Shockingly, at the Pie Awards, zero pies were eaten. I mean, a three-course fancy meal.

Yeah, but no pie. I thought it would be all pies. Patrick also won the vegetarian pie category. Yeah, the vegetarian pie category nearly got booed. Because we were so deep in the meat for ages. And then we moved to that.

Patrick got a silver for his steak and gravy. Yeah, I'd imagine there'd be lines out the door today. Literally, it was so funny. There's all the categories like meat and gravy, mince and gravy, this and this, chicken and something, chicken and veg, vegetarian. And then it was like, and now, mince and cheese. And the room goes, ooh.

What a classic. So much fun thank you for having us like what a joy I will go every year because that was a blast and it's great

pie weather today too yeah and there's also table service and we were like can we get three Proseccos please and she was like do you want a bottle

we're like yes so the pie awards by the sound of it on a whole better than the radio awards. Oh, 100%. 100%.

Yeah. I think we need to get to more industry awards. You know, like the concrete awards. Better than the TV awards. Better than the theatre awards. Better than the radio awards. The Pi Awards. There's always money on the pie.

Next level. People go crazy. Like we get to the New Zealand Accounting Awards. Oh, they pop off. You know accountants, they cut loose. They've got talcum powder on every table. Yeah,

I don't know if it's, and they were lining up the talcum powder. Yeah, because they chafe. A lot of accountants get chafing. and so then they put

their fingers on the talcum powder and put it on their gums just to make sure it's talcum powder and then they, I don't know, they put it on their wet bits. Accountants are wild.

They're wild with their talcum powder. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. I don't know how I feelum powder. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. I don't know how I feel about this. There is a woman

who is like dating as lots of people are and she said she got the ick. She went on a fourth date I believe with someone.

She saw a few dates she said with one guy and today was probably the fourth time we've hung out. We go out for a dinner.

It's time to pay for the meal. The lady asks us, how would you like to pay? And immediately he said, we'll split it. Okay. And she goes, I've got the ick.

Because he doesn't want to pay for the whole meal? And she goes, I'm just a little bit like, okay. Like the total was 31 pounds, which is like 60 bucks. That's a lot of money for some people.

That's a lot of money, yeah. I mean, anyway. Wait, whose side are we on here? I'm on his side. Am I not allowed to be on his side? Am I allowed to be on his side? Will we be cancelled if we're on his side? Oh, we're all on his side.

Okay, I'm on his side too. A woman's on his side. Yeah. So then because it's 31 pounds, the woman's like, okay, so it's 15.50 each. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. So then because it's 31 pounds, the woman's like, okay, so it's 1550 each. Yeah. And then the girl just goes, um,

I, why don't I just pay for it? Or we'll just do it together or something. Or they're having a hard time doing the split of the thing. Yeah. It's easy. Most cafes have like a half button. Yeah.

Yeah. Or a thirds button and they just push it and it splits it by thirds. Yeah. So she said that, like he said, let's split it. And then they had trouble splitting it. And then she was like, oh, I can just pay for it. And then he didn't offer to, like, transfer a half. And so now she's got the, but he wanted to split it.

She offered to pay for it. She wanted him to just pay for the meal. And she thinks by the fourth date he should be paying. I don't agree with that at all. I think, I mean, like, I think me and Aaron's, oh, no, that's a lie. He paid for so much. But he had a bit of a job and I didn't. Yeah, yeah.

It all evens out over the course of the relationship. Yeah, you've got to stick around, like, 12 years to make it even out. Anyway, she said this is a huge ick for her and she's experienced it in dating before. So I want to know, what is your dating ick? Like, is there something that once you're on a date, they do this thing and you're like, eh, damn it, I can't keep going with this one. Maybe they steal something off your plate.

Maybe they kiss you on the nose. Kiss you on the nose. Well, go in for a minute. You think it's going to be A mouth kiss No like a little Like a cutie There's a long approach there For you to get the hell

Out of the way I reckon you're six months To kissing on the nose Maybe it was Loud open mouth eating Maybe it was Maybe it was That they didn't

Ask you If you wanted To Have pudding Yeah when they're like Would you like to see A dessert menu And they're like

No thank you we're fine. And they answer on their behalf. That's right, they say no pudding. That's an ick. You're like, I'm out. Oh no, I couldn't, I couldn't. I'm absolutely stuffed. I'm constantly hungry. Do you see a relationship going forward with someone that doesn't always want pudding? No. No, absolutely not. That's why I would never

want a boyfriend that had a ripped six pack. Because to me, I see that and I go, yeah know I want to touch it but you're going to be boring. Yeah you're not going to want to eat pudding. Yeah it's all going to be like steamed broccoli and stuff.

Yes and I'll be like let's go to the pub let's go out let's go have curry. Yeah let's like lay in bed and eat scones and he'll be like no I can't babe

the shreds. I'll be like ick. The shred is real. Ick, ick, ick. Maybe abs are your ick. Right okay 0800-DARLS-NM

we want to take your calls now give us a text as well 9696 is the text number. What is your dating ick, ick. Maybe abs are your ick. Right. Okay. 0800-DARLS-NM. We want to take your calls now. Give us a text as well. 9696 is the text number. What is your dating ick? The thing that happens and you go, ah. Maybe you've been on a date recently. They did this one thing and you were like, okay, I can't keep going with this guy or girl. It icked you.

Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. We're talking about your dating icks. When you're dating, not like the ick that your boyfriend gives you after years and you're like, oh, God, I wish I didn't do that. But when you're like dating, fresh dating, you're on a date with someone, they do something and you're like, ah, here's the ick. Can't go on. Can't go on with you.

You're not the one. A woman, her ick was that he didn't offer to pay. It's not. We're moving on from that. I don't think that's an ick. That's just. That's not an ick. That's him just being like, we're living a, you know, tough times. Yeah. We're moving on from that. I don't think that's an ick. That's not an ick. That's him just being like, we're living a, you know, tough times.

Yeah. We're splitting it. Well, even just to go on a date these days and go for dinner, that's a big commitment. That's a lot of money. I think you should just split it the whole time until you're in a relationship. I don't know how you're trying to put off hair fletch doing this.

Is there someone you want to, like, not go out with that thinks it's on the cards? Are you doing a soft breakup with whoever you're dating? Yeah, yeah, it feels like a summer. It's just a lot of money, you know. It's a lot of money. It's a lot of money. Maybe we could just go to a park for free or something.

A park for free? Yeah, okay. Look at the birds. Do you want to meet me at a park? Yeah. Oh, yeah, okay, that sounds bad. Okay, fine. God, you're pissed.

I was going to say arcade, but you blow through $100 in an arcade. No time to get one of those little cards, do you? They're so expensive, eh? Tap, tap, punch a thing and Mario Kart. You get $30, I get $30, that's $60. Yeah. Now we still want to play again.

Don't do the tickets. Don't do the tickets. You're wasting your time if you become ticket obsessed in an arcade. Don't become ticket obsessed. Just try to have fun. The tickets, you'll never buy anything with those tickets. Oh, yeah, yeah. What you can't afford to buy with them is just junk.

It's junk. It's trash. It's trash. And you're trash if you think that you're a ticket obsessed. Wow. Some people love the tickets. Ticket obsessed. It's trash. And you're trash if you think that you're a ticket obsessive. Wow. Some people love the tickets. Ticket obsessed. It's a bit of fun for the people, the tickets.

I did win 500 tickets on the Angry Bird game once. Just pure coincidence. And then I was hooked. I was a bit of a trashy ticket boy that day. Yeah. So we want to know about the X. Some of them are really good. Singing to the music in the restaurant you're at.

Oh, and they were just like, I can't go on with this guy. I do this. What's worse is I harmonise with it. Now, that's it. So you'll go. Yeah. Sort of to show them where you're at singing wise. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, outdo the performer of their initial song. Oh, my. Oh, my. Do you know what? Gentlemen, and ladies too, if you are proficient in the expulsion of fluids from the body, the salivas, the snots, don't.

So many messages. I was on a date with a guy. We were walking to the restaurant and he hiked on the footpath. Don't do that. Don't do that. And so I was on a date with a guy, blew his nose into his hand, wiped it on the pants. Oh, no.

Safe to say that wasn't the second date. That is disgusting. On the pants. Get a napkin. Blow your nose into a napkin. The only time you blow your nose into your hand is if you're, like, running a marathon or you're, like, playing a football game and you're going to wipe it on the grass.

Don't be gross. Yeah, that thing where you put one finger on your nostril. Oh, my God. Yes. I'm traumatised by that because I tried it and it just kind of like shot out and down my face. So I don't do that anymore. You didn't have enough pressure.

And that was years ago. I didn't have a beard when I last tried that. Now I just get stuck all in the beard. You get a snotty beard. Anyone, I would say don't talk about your ex because someone said, I hate when they talk about their ex and someone else said, when they start bitching about their ex, it's bad. It's like, just don't talk about your ex. Because someone said, I hate when they talk about their ex. And someone else said, when they start bitching about their ex.

It's bad. It's like, just don't do that. Because how far away am I from being the next? And I'm already going, well, she's like playing so much on your mind. Clearly. My dating ick is when they compliment me too much. I already know I'm hot. Let's get on with some real chat.

Wow. Not my ick. That's a 10 messaging in. We've got a 10 listener. We've got a 10 listener to the show. We've got a 10 listener to the show. Thank you for dragging up the average. Yeah, thank you very much.

Very appreciative of that. When they like me back. Ooh, yuck. What's wrong with you? Oh, yeah. That's a little bit of you've got a problem there. You're loving yourself. You've got to let them in.

Open up your heart. Yeah. When he has a Samsung. Oh, they text you and it's green? When they text you and it's green. Oh, sorry, this isn't going to work, Han. It's like literally great phones. They're the same price as an iPhone, right?

But like why don't people get over it? We almost know that they're better phones. But for some reason, it's an it. It's hard to admit. What is it? I went on a date with a guy. We were at a park and a group of kids lost their ball down the hill and it's an it. It's hard to admit. What is it? I went on a date with a guy. We were at a park and a group of kids lost their ball down the hill and he chased after it.

It was like clop, clop, trot down the hill like a big loser horse. Hayley's choking on her coffee. Being with someone for like a year and you're like, oh my God, I love this person. Then that's the first time you see them throw a ball. You see them run. Oh my God, yes. Sometimes you see them throw a ball. You see them run. Oh, my God, yes. Sometimes you see people throw a ball.

I'm terrible at throwing a ball, but I can throw a ball. But, you know, I know I've got cricketing mates, and I consider you one of them. You can launch a ball, and I'm just like, oh, my God, but I can throw a ball. You know when you see someone run and they just kind of. They're not throwing right and something's wrong and you're like, what's happening?

Did you ever throw a ball growing up? These are so funny. The Clip Clop Losers. Play Zed-In's Fletch for the Nelly. Play Zed-In. Well, we had some pre-drinks before the New Zealand Bakel's Pie Awards yesterday, which we were invited to. Great night.

Good fun. I forget how it came up. I think we were going to get an Uber from mine to the Pie Awards. You said, can you order the Uber? Because I don't want to get a one-star rating, insinuating that I'm a bad Uber passenger. I was like, I'm not that bad. I mean.

And then I went on, because now you can go on, and you go into your settings, and you go privacy, and then you go show me how I'm using Uber, and then you can go to your ratings. And it shows you the breakdown of your stars. So not just your average. Yeah, because my average is quite good. It's like 4.89.

To me, that's not bad. You must have had some fives if you've got seven ones. Oh, I've got like, because I've taken like 500 Ubers. I know. It's actually like so confronting. It tells you how many Uber rides you've had. How do I say this? Oh, my God.

Just Google it. Yeah, go into Uber. Don't give me that. Don't give me that. That's reserved especially for your parents when they ask a silly technological question. It is. Don't you dare.

I start to know to the core. But this is literally because. So you go, yeah, account, and then you go settings, and then you go privacy, and then you go privacy centre. Hold on, hold on, settings. Would you like to see a summary of how you use Uber? See summary. Privacy centre.

Yep. Would you like to... Would you like to scroll down to ratings, view my ratings. Okay, see summary. Anyway, it was when I was viewing my ratings that I because I've always looked at just my number, 4.89 and I was like, pretty good, I'm pleased with that.

I know I've been a nightmare sometimes. But because I've taken so many Ubers, it's still allowed space for me to have seven one star reviews on me as a person. And I laid down the challenge to you yesterday. I said, I would like you to come on air today. I've got

three one stars. Your wife, Von... No, she uses the same account. Oh yeah, and she did Von in that Uber once. So that's definitely a one. So 82 five stars, three four stars. I don't take Uber too often. So I've got 85

that are either four or five going to need to check mine. That are either four or five stars. Three one stars. This would be her and her mouthy mates. Yeah. I reckon I've worked mine out.

Okay. So all because didn't you get an email once from them saying are you awake? Yeah. Are you alive? Yeah.

Two espues. Okay. In the car. We'll just leave that there. In the car? Two espues. Okay. In the car. We'll just leave that there. In the car? Two espues. One is I gave the driver a massage. Haley Jane Sproul.

Wait. A consensual massage. It must not have been consensual. I misread the room. It's not consensual. I was in the car with four people. It was a crammed car. And he set the time. You's not consensual. I was in the car with four people. It was a crammed car.

And he set the time. You know those Ubers that used to turn on the lights and put up the music? Oh, yep, yep, yep. It was really fun. And I was sitting behind him. And I gave him a shoulder massage. Are you sure that's a one? Because that might have been a five.

Nope. He was uncomfortable. Okay. One. I think two of these are last minute cancels of I didn't show. Because remember last year at the quiz night, we really struggled to get an Uber from where we were back home,

me and Aaron. And then I think we used a different app and then I hadn't cancelled mine and then I didn't show. So I reckon they'd be like, no shows. They charge you and they give you a rating. So there's five. I think the other two I'm going to blame Madeline Sami. Right.

I once ordered an Uber for her and I put her in and the guy, I put her in the Uber and I was like, here's the address. And he was not happy to have her in the car and I think she spewed in it. I'm calling you out, Mads. You spewed in the Uber. That gave me one star.

Yep. There's a rogue one I can't quite put my finger on. You're talking national treasure. Madeline Sami had a medal in Siam. It had a bomb in an Uber. Just tells me it could be anybody, you know? Absolutely. Okay, I've just looked at mine.

I've got five one stars. Yes! Five! What is this madness? How dare they one star us? I know my other one. I was in the car heading to my friend's house, and he was driving so fast, like 120 in an 80,

and I told him to slow down and then when I got there, I said, we're lucky we made it alive and I slammed the door. One star. Oh, okay. Yeah, that'd be one star.

But that's on him. Five. I'm going to blame you because you go in a lot of Ubers with me. Shut up. Shut up. Play. ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley.

Well, I know right now if there's anybody listening that's moved overseas but then was like nah nah I'm coming home did a big move it's even more embarrassing

if you've done a going away party yes and then you're back a week later because you were like I actually didn't like London oh yeah

in London you can't see the sun in summer dreary why did I move there in November yeah it's like grey I know it can be literally grey for months on end Oh, yeah. In London, you can't see the sun in summer. Dreary? Why do they move there in November? Yeah, it's like grey. I know, it can be literally grey for months on end.

So there is a... It is weird that that was just like the centre of the Western world for a few hundred years, right? London. Why not go somewhere a little bit nicer? Oh, yeah. Like Barbados. Yeah. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah. It's warm. So roughly one third of the Kiwi workforce is apparently thinking of quitting their jobs and moving to Australia. So Massey and Otago Universities found 34% of workers were either strongly or moderately thinking of quitting. But see, to me, thinking about it is different to being willing to do it. We all think about things.

Yeah. It's a big move. I mean, my brothers lived in Australia for like 14 years. Wow. I can't believe it's just gone like that. I've been sent an axe. I'm strongly thinking about cutting off my little finger. I'm not going to.

To just see how sharp it is. But you're saying there's a difference. Could I live without a little finger? I don't know. Should I find out? I think you could. I think it would be annoying. I'm semi-interested, but I'm not going to do it.

So to me, there's a difference. When I visited my friends in Melbourne who've just had some babies, they're desperate to move home, right? They want to be closer to their families. That's a big thing. But they are like, we can't afford to do it. The pay cut they'll take. And then they've got to reset up a life in a more expensive thing.

I mean, I get it, man. So apparently it had increased with recent changes, given New Zealanders easier pathway to Australian citizenship. But then you've got to be Australian and that's yuck. And snakes and snakes. Don't forget about snakes. Totally, totally. There's ups and downs.

But if people want to leave, I personally don't hold it against them. Just come home before you get an accent. Yeah. Nah, stage where you start getting an accent, then come home so we can all rip you a bit. But so, when asked why, people said better wages, better lifestyle and lower taxes. But aren't Australian taxes higher taxes?

Personal income taxes are quite high in Australia. Close to like 50% for the highest. For the high brackets. And I know some guys working in mines that you know at school were the kind of guys that drank just a little bit

of methylated spirits to see what it tasted like. Those sorts of idiots. Yeah. They're earning crazy money over there but I know their top tax bracket that they're all like

sneaking towards is way higher than ours. We should go work in the mines. Aaron's cousin works in the mines you know. My cousin's working in the mines and make lots of money.

I would have to be an open cast mine. I'm not going underground. Yeah, because I don't want to be in, like, some kind of Netflix movie where they have to rescue me. But I will drive those trucks. Oh, yes, you will. And you stand beside the wheel. You have to use a ladder to climb into them.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a Tonka boy. You want to drive a Tonka truck, yeah. I want to be a little man driving a massive Tonka. But, I mean, the latest stats, a lot of people have left New Zealand for, you know, higher wages or the Australian dream or doing the OE. But we want to know this morning when it didn't work out. Do you know someone that was like, I'm going overseas, I'm moving,

I'm moving, and then they did it, but they were like, nah, and then they were back, like, real quick. Yeah, I'd love that. Because I'd be too stubborn. If I told everybody I was leaving. You're leaving and you're going to stay. And if I did come back, I wouldn't tell anyone. I'd just sit in Glasgow, miserable, and be like, I hate this,

but I said I was moving to Scotland, and so I'm here. I'd just be drowning myself in haggis and eeps and tates. Yeah, there you go. I love that one. People are like, oh, try haggis. Ha, ha, ha, what a joke. And I ate it. I was like, this is maybe the most delicious thing I've ever eaten.

But we know people that have done this. And you don't hold it against them. They just didn't like it. They were just like, you know what? I do miss home. I want to go home. And they just come back. Yeah, totally.

There's no shame in it, but it's... It is kind of funny, though. It's kind of funny. Especially when you're through a party. And that's why we want to take some calls. Literally, in your last breath, said, we didn't judge them. And then your next line was, it was kind of funny. We're laughing at you, we're not judging you.

Yeah, we're laughing with you. No, we're laughing with you, not at you. With you, yeah. As long as you're laughing. I mean, you can either admit to doing this yourself. Do you know anybody that's gone overseas and then quickly moved back? Whether it's a couple of months. When overseas wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

Yeah. And maybe you just want to dob on a friend because maybe no one will admit to this. Play. ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. When was overseas not all it was cracked up to be? Thank you. We want to hear from those people that said, that's it was cracked up to be? Thank you. We want to hear from those people that said, that's it, I'm moving.

Yeah, goodbye. Selling my stuff. I'm going for the better money or just the OE and then they're like, actually, I'm moving home. I miss it. Oh, I ran out of money. Oh, now I've got to work in a pub? What?

And they don't have Whittakers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do they not? Nah. You're not going. You're out. You're not even holidaying. Why don't you take a break, like a block with you next time? What, for the flight over?

How many can I take? I don't know. I'll get done on the way in for choco smuggling. Yeah. Some text messages in on when people left but then came back pretty quickly. I went to Aussie to work in the mines, found out the day of the medical exam that I was pregnant so I was like, well, I better come home.

Oh, what a way to find out you're pregnant. Thank God they do a medical exam. Imagine working down in the mines and being like, I feel crook, man. Wait, so they flew all the way to Perth? Yeah. Oh my God. Oh no. They got to the medical exam and found out they were pregnant. We have a friend who

moved to Australia and lasted less than 24 hours. How? Yeah. Like, come on, at least, like, check out the city, right, and stay a weekend. Got to get some food. Yeah. More explanation, please. Would like to know why.

Yeah. Probably the Whittakers. Probably ran into the Whittakers. Although they know that the supermarkets over there do have Whittakers. You just told me before they didn't. Well, I'm thinking of, like, London and stuff. Ah. Do they have Whittakers. You just told me before they didn't. Well, I'm thinking of like London and stuff. Do they have Whittakers in Australia? Yeah, but they pay like $10 for a block.

Yeah, but you're earning so much more money. You've got to pay your dues. Old Bessie moved to the UK. My parents decided to take her out for a dinner for a proper send-off. She left and arrived back two weeks later. And my dad is always like, I paid for quite a bit of dinner. Dad proper send-off. She left and arrived back two weeks later. And my dad is always like, I paid for quite a bit of dinner. Dad, that's dad math.

That's dad math. My daughter and her boyfriend moved to Perth. He lasted a week, just did no like it. Came home. A friend had a big leaving party, sold everything. Few people selling everything. Oh, no. Moved to Melbourne.

He was home within six weeks. Jeepers. Just didn't like it. No. Wow. Dobbing myself in here. Moved to London when I was 19, thinking I'd work in a pub

and save heaps of money and travel Europe. Ended up on five pound an hour. Getting fired after a week and having to stay on my aunt's couch for three months before I ended up admitting defeat and asking dad to buy me a flight home.

Oh, no. Look back on it. The experience made me stronger, so you could call it a very expensive learning curve. I know so many people that did the OE, did the London thing, and then got to London with the idea of going to Spain, France, every other weekend, like travelled once maybe in like two years and just worked and worked and worked.

They couldn't afford it, yeah. That was like people who moved to Dubai. Like, oh, it's so close. And then they go to Greece and then they come back and then they're like, it'd be easy to stay here. Yeah, I'd like to stay here

and get a job. Might go to Ireland. Oh, that was cold. Come back, stay in Dubai. Yeah. Broke up in a five-year relationship with a girl so she could move to England

and find herself. COVID hit, so she didn't actually end up even leaving the country, but she found herself with another guy. Sorry for that. Okay. I have a friend who made the move to Australia to come back

three times over five years. He is back in New Zealand and has been for the past three years so he made, like, I'm moving to Australia three times in five years and I end up coming back. He comes back to New Zealand. He's been here for three years, still complains about New Zealand every day.

See, that's a person that's not going to be happy wherever they are. We all know these people. Their location is not the problem. Yeah, they think the money's going to be the answer or finding a partner's going to be the answer, but it's not. Yeah.

Got to learn to love yourself. Got to learn to be happy with what you've got. Yeah. You don't know what you've got until it's gone. They pave paradise. Nice, and they put up a parking lot. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Play ZM.

Fact of the day, day there is a man versus horse marathon. That's unfair. Man runs against horse. It is an annual race over 35 kilometres, 22 miles, where runners compete against riders on horseback through a mix of road, trail and mountainous terrain. 35 kilometres? That's close to a marathon.

Close. Seven kilometres short of a marathon. Wow. What's the point of this? Because horses will win. Well, the race is a shorter distance. The original takes place in a Welsh town of Llywyrn. Every June.

Would you have made that noise if it was our country? No, but if you check my DNA, I've got Welsh DNA, so I'm allowed to mock my ancestry. Well, thank God. Thank goodness. I know. You wait, there's another one coming up. Why isn't Vaughan on the show? Oh, he said this.

Vaughan is actually a Welsh name. Yeah, it is. It means small. That's why it's spelt funny. Sorry, sorry. I didn't mean to upset you. Excuse me? Just the hand at the end.

Spelt funny? Yeah. Pull up your ancestry. If there's no Welsh, I'm going to have to take this very seriously. Now, if there is Welsh, you're allowed to make fun

of the Welsh. I'm not Welsh. I'm Irish. I'm Irish. I'm Irish and Scottish. Did you scoff at the Welsh? We'll flab and dab and oover and oover you. Oh. We will.

We will. We will. A-A-A-A-E-I-U-U-U-U-L-L-L-L-Y-W-N-U. Oh yeah, I've got 7%, so I'm allowed to be not offended. Slab-a-dab-a-do-ba-dab-a. Slab-a-dab-a-do-ba-dab-a. Any Welsh over there? I've got none. Well, no jokes from you, please. Cancelled. So, the original took place In Wales

It also happens in Scotland Oh I'm 23% Scottish I'm like 40 something In Doris Which is near Loch Ness Guess where the third man versus horse Marathon happens New Zealand baby

Yes New Zealand in the central North Island How have we never heard of this? The great Pukio Kahu man versus horse marathon But what is the point of these? Like horses will win Not every time baby They get tired

Oh do they? I didn't even read the history of it I just became obsessed with the three people who have beat horses. Only three. Ricky Lightfoot in 2022. Last year after its triumphant return after the COVID. Just chuck hay bales as a distraction for the horses. Ricky Lightfoot won.

He ran it in two hours 22, two minutes faster than the closest horse, which was Invictus. Right. But other than that, it's been pretty horse heavy in 2007. I'd say it would be. Florian Holsinger won. Yep, of course he did. He was absolutely honking.

He was 10 minutes faster than the closest horse. Jeepers. And 2004, Hugh Lobb won, two minutes 17 faster than the horse. All these names sound made up. Yeah. You're making up these names sound made up. Yeah. You're making up these names. Very true. But yeah, it happens in New Zealand.

It has been, it didn't happen because of some cyclones recently. Right. But there are, if you consider yourself a little bit of a hot foot. Go up against a horse. And you can beat a horse over some, you know, difficult terrain. Yeah. You can Google man versus horse marathon and sign up for that one and get amongst it because today's fact of the day is there is a marathon

where a man will race a horse. Or a wooman. A wooman. Yeah, or a man. A wooman. A human. A human. We're all humans.

We'll race a horse over a marathon course, and humans have won three times. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Yeah. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Play. ZDM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. I almost said the MF where I was just talking to Brad about banks.

You did my mic was on and I was just like mudded off. All right, it's time for a special edition. Girl math, girl math, girl math, girl math. I mean, it's real now. We've got an intro. That's a banging intro. That's a banging intro. Thanks, Brad. Now, joining us in studio are Brad Olson,

Principal Economist at Infometrics for a special edition of Girl Maths. Now, you've heard the first couple of segments, Brad. As a Principal Economist, you're on the news all the time. We've nicknamed you Bad News Brad. What do you think of the segment girl maths? Look, I understand why there's a need to justify spending in this economy. That's for sure.

Look, I can certainly get behind some of them. The bag example, I can comprehend. You see, she had four $250 bags, right? You can see that. What I want to know is did she use all four purposes with that bag? 100% she will. See, that's okay. It's an ongoing thing.

Ask her in 10 years when that quality bag is still around, as mine is. I'm not so convinced about the hair stuff, but let's be clear, I pay like $30 for a haircut, so I'm the wrong person to justify hair spending. Brad, didn't you hear the summary that Vaughn so eloquently said? She either spent $400, which I know you're not keen on, she would have lost $800,000 otherwise. There's no arguing with that, Brad. Where did that money go?

Now, we don't want $800,000 gone. Now, Shannon and Carwen are at the producer's desk. Are you a bit nervous about today's Girl Mass with Brad here? No. Yeah. Because it doesn't matter. Like, it will always be justified. It's a lifestyle and it's a delusion.

Yeah, babe. They're principal economists at Girlmaths. At Girlmaths. Okay, right. Nicole joins us. Good morning, Nicole. Hi. Now, you're considering a new purchase

and you'd like Girlmaths to justify this for you. What are you looking at buying? I've already brought it, but I need to justify it to myself. Okay. Those are the best ones. Opposed purchase justification. Is this our first? Yeah.

I think it is. I think it's our first year. No, the handbag the woman had just bought it the day before. Okay, so how much did this purchase cost? $330. And what is it? It's a brand new, new season ruby dress. Oh, which one?

Which one are we talking? Because that's going to help me. It's called the Ariel. It's a halter neck. It's got like shirt fabric down the side. It's stunning. Say no more. Oh, my gosh.

Right, pink. Oh, Barbie pink? Yeah, like beautiful. Oh, okay. Yeah, right. That's just close right away. Just close right away. Oh, my.

Okay. Where are you going to wear this? I don't even know why we need to even bother. Where are we wearing this? Two though. Well, I have three weddings coming up this season and they're all different people, okay? Different crowds, completely different groups.

Look, I'm married to one of you. Okay, so this isn't 300. I'm married to one of you and this is horseshit. You're going to wear that to one wedding and you're going to get such a nice photo at the first wedding and you'll be like, well, I can't. Now I can't wear it because people will put the photo online. It's all about the intention

though. It's the intention today. She's going to wear it three times. This is not a $330 dress, Brad. It's $110. Which is basically the same as hiring a dress, right? It's basically free. Basically free. No, we're not quite at free yet. Okay. Producers, Girl Mass? Yeah,

my thoughts immediately go to the Instagram factor. She's getting one Instagram pick up. The men are going to love it. She's going to look hot. Do we have a partner, Nicole? Yeah, he doesn't know I brought it. So no, she won't have one by the end of the week. Because this dress,

if going off just looking at the dress, you might get a new partner. And now if you're going for a mortgage, you're only paying for 50% of that. Now we're back in the hundreds of thousands of dollars we're saving here. Brad's face is just like, how?

Well, yeah, so if she posts in this dress, she's at a wedding, she's looking good. You only need 10 men to buy your drink. We're in the positives. Yeah. So she's got a partner and she's going to a wedding which I assume there's a tab but someone's paying for her drinks yeah just in general as well you know she's putting it on Instagram she's like she's gonna look snatched in this dress right okay so you're

saying that because it's such a nice dress men will buy her drinks so that's instantly a saving puts you in the positives right okay Carl Wayne what Carl Wayne, what are your thoughts? So look, Ruby, I know a lot about. And these dresses will have resale value. I know you look him in the eyes, Brad, you don't believe me. Wait, you're telling me she's going to make money? There is a market for this. Yeah. So if she wears it three times

at $110 a wear, she can definitely sell this after those three wears for more than $110. Absolutely. So she's at least saved one cost of renting one dress. So even if she sold this,

this is $330, $110 per wear, even if she sold this for $110, one of those wears is now free. She's wearing a free dress. Exactly. It's free.

So for two of the times, yes, she's losing a bit of money, Brad, but one of the times, it's not basically free, it is free. Can we just check in? Are there any other times that we can use this dress? Can we use it like at a work function? Yeah, what do you think, Nicole?

We're supposed to be going to the races for our work function and I brought like a really wide brim hat on the weekend that I was going to wear with a different dress. So I'm like, no, this gives Barbie vibes. This is perfect. Okay, so that's another wear. That's another wear. It's $82.50 now.

It's $82.50. That's her fourth wear. And the hat is basically free because it costs less than the dress. Yeah, there you go. Now, Nicole, have you been to Barbie? Yes, amazing. Beautiful. I'm just keen.

I love it. Right, you were thinking she could wear another. You might get a fifth wear out of it. Because if we're getting five. I would go again. I love it. Right, you were thinking she could wear another... You were thinking she might get a fifth wear out of it. Because if we're getting five... I would go again. I could easily go again. There's bound to be a summer bottomless brunch as well. If you can get five wears, we're talking about a $66 dress.

Now, you'd get that from a cheap shop. But now you're buying a New Zealand designer piece of clothing. I'm supporting the economy. Supporting the economy. Okay, what about that point, Brad? She's supporting the economy. She is now. New Zealand company. The biggest question for me's supporting the economy. She is now. New Zealand company.

The biggest question for me is that the resale point is good. Carmen's point about the resale is good. How long do you hold the dress? Is there a commitment to sell it? Is it two years and it's gone? It's got to be in fashion still, doesn't it? Because the thing is, if you leave it too long in the wardrobe, then the math doesn't stack up.

So girl math is okay here, I think, as long as it... Don't do it, Brad! You have a career to think of, Brad! Brad, I thought we weren't meant to be spending money. Don't buy into this craziness! She's not spending money. The important thing here, though, is that if it was a one-off, a one-and-done purchase,

then, yeah, I'd be concerned. But everyone's now thinking like an economist and thinking, where's the economies of scale? How do I get the most bang for buck here? I like that thinking. Cost per wear. Cost per wear. Okay. This per wear. Cost per wear. Okay.

This never happens! This never happens! It never happens! We've also encouraged someone else on the text machine to go out and buy this specific dress. Yeah, so it's the Ariel Holter dress in pink. You're going to cause inflation. Are we going to send it to Sade? No, we are not! I'm going to send it to Sade. Why don't you sell it to Sade in two years?

Exactly. Oh, no, but pink won't be all the rage. No, pink is eternal. What about, I mean, dress swap? That's a thing, isn't it? Yes. Yeah, do you have best friends? Maybe a best friend's going to borrow it for us.

Oh, my God, this is the thing. It's like even if you go, you're committed to wearing this three times. If you lose that commitment, do a dress swap with another friend that's going to the wedding, but this dress is still getting worn. So it still works out that it's basically free. When I was in store,

the lady told me that I should rent it out afterwards. So she's kind of saying- You put it on designer wardrobe. Designer wardrobe, you rent out. You're literally making money off of buying this dress. I think the only way this works is if you do keep moving it around because I've got enough friends where they've got fantastic wardrobes of dresses that they haven't worn for like five years or so.

That sort of stuff, that's what we call dead money. Yeah, it is dead money. That's a sunk cost. You need to sort of get rid of that. You need to keep generating things. And if you want the economy to turn over, you've got to move the dresses around. How much of your wardrobe is dead money?

I fit like two pieces of it. I mean, that's a different kind of inflation. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Bad News Brad is in studio with us. That's our cute nickname for Brad Olsen. Principal economist. Yeah. This guy's everywhere.

At 7 Sharp. Oh, yeah, they love you on 7 Sharp. This guy's everywhere. At 7sharp. Oh, yeah, they love you on 7sharp. I read an article about you the other day. It might have been on The Herald and they interviewed you like, who is this man, this young man, the face of New Zealand economics? That made it to page six in the Northern Advocate, my home paper. A lot of proud family friends. Yeah, I bet.

Well, we're lucky to have you. A couple of questions. We've asked you for your. Well, we're lucky to have you. A couple of questions. We've asked you for your questions on the text machine as well while you're here. Yeah, about the economy. How long should I lock in my mortgage rate? It's due for a big refresh in September. That is about 5,000 people's question. Because I recently moved banks, Brad.

That's a story for another day. You did advise me not to renovate and I did it and I'm untried. I didn't say that. I take no responsibility. But our bank was recommending six months, twelve months because they were going, the word is

they're coming down. Well I mean that's probably also because the banks are all obviously trying to get your money as well. No he was really nice Brad. He was really nice. Look I think not anyone's specific financial advice. Go and talk to your financial advisor in bits and pieces. The way up at the moment is you're having to figure out,

look, one, how long will they stay at these high levels for? The Reserve Bank at the moment thinks it's until mid-next year or so before they think they can start to cut interest rates back. So that sort of lends you to say, well, you don't want to lock in for maybe too long because you don't want to miss when they might head down. At the same time, if you're looking to refix, you also want to have a bit of certainty so that you can budget. You can work out week to week how much do you need to pay. And if you're only doing it for six months, after

that six months, yep, it might go down. At the moment, though, who knows? It might well go up. And so I think for some people, what they're looking at is how do they sort of split it up? Maybe do you do a bit on six months, do you do a bit on one year and a bit on maybe two or three years to give you just that little bit more certainty? So I think it's figuring out, you know, how well are you going on cash flow? How much do you need to absolutely lock down a budget? Let's be clear, I don't think it's all of a sudden going to be super cheap after, you know, in July next year, it's not going to drop its guts back to sort of where it was on Tuesday.

Can we get a 2.69 again? Because man, that was tasty. I mean, look, if you locked in five years at 2.99, you're probably, you're looking sorted. But I think for the moment, yeah, weighing up sort of, yes, there might be a little bit of a pullback in interest rates sort of this time next year, but also that assurity of you want to have maybe a little bit of a

longer term period so you have that certainty, that stability of knowing exactly what your repayments will look like. Do you know what I am going to do when my mortgage comes back up is stretch it back out. I don't know you could do that. Oh, over the longer term. So yeah, I had these ones that were getting paid off over 20 years. And then

hopefully die before then. Yeah, that's the plan, right? I mean, remember, if you do that, generally if you stretch it out longer, you will pay more interest in terms of total dollars over time. That's okay, because I just want a house to live in at this moment. That's my main priority is keeping a roof over my children. And maybe when it changes a bit, you can pull it back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally, totally.

What about, we spoke before about a third of, what was this survey, a third of Kiwis thinking they'd move overseas. Jump ship. How does New Zealand compare to the rest of the world? Like everything is so expensive, food prices, rent, just everything. I mean, look, the numbers aren't great. New Zealand's inflation rate, for example, certainly not the worst in the world, but sort of still taking its good time trying to get back to a normal level.

I think, look, we've always had people that have moved overseas and there are some good opportunities. Importantly, though, there's still 5 million people here. Like, if New Zealand sucked that much, we just wouldn't be here. So obviously we've got some good things going, right? We've seen population growth over time. I think it's also, you know, why are people coming back? You know, what opportunities are we providing them? But certainly, I mean, probably the worst thing when we looked

at the latest inflation data is that it was all the essentials rising in price. So food costs have increased their fastest in 40 years, energy the fastest in 10 years, the likes of rents up 4% per annum. The one, well, the two things that came down... That's why I wouldn't let Hayley put the heater on. She sat in the spare room last night and said no heater. It was freezing.

Too expensive. The two things that went down, though, one was petrol, which of course has since gone back up. The other one is international airfares. So the worst thing is it's now cheaper to leave than it was before. Far out. So are we seeing, like, is there light at the end of the tunnel? Yeah.

For things like food prices and... That's what a lot of people are asking. Like, how long is this going to last? We're getting into a better area. We're starting to see less intense pricing pressure coming forward. Good news, Brad. Important, though, I think the worry is a lot of people sort of say, when are food costs going to be lower?

They're probably not. The idea here is probably that you just want them to not increase at such an insanely fast, frantic pace. That doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be cheaper. It's just that hopefully over time people's incomes can rise to sort of match that level a bit more. Better news, but certainly not out of it. We're worried about that hot core of inflation because there does seem to be a lot of, again,

those essentials that are costing a lot more. Some stuff, a bit more discounting going on. Furniture, for example. People aren't spending as much. That means that the furniture houses and warehouses and that, they've got a lot of stock. If they want to get it moving, they need to discount it a bit more. But those essentials, geez, it's tough out there. Yeah, right. So bad news,

really. Because I actually had a real bee in my bonnet last week about the price of Kumara, a New Zealand growing product. And you, along with many people, messaged saying, due to that cyclone, wiped out massive stocks. That was a supply and demand situation. But my main

problem is, are supermarkets, what transparency is there to see what the farmers are getting from the supermarkets versus what the supermarkets are passing it on for? Because it's easy. Someone literally said, I worked at a supermarket. The day after that cyclone hit, we got a message to hike the price because there was... Cashing in.

They were cashing in on disaster. I don't know. That's where we live in, baby. It's capitalism, but... Well, importantly as well, so the other thing here to keep in mind is that element of supply and demand. And although that does sound a little bit egregious,

just consider this one for a moment. This might be what happened. If you knew all of a sudden that your kūmura that you were going to get in store was going to massively decline, you were going to get from 10,000 tonnes down to 1,000 tonnes, if you knew that, then you'd sort of go, well, if I keep selling at the same price, then

I'm going to run out real quick. I'm going to run out in a tenth of the time that I normally would. And that means a whole bunch of people don't get any kumara at all. And it's those who come in quick at the start that get to buy it quickly. So the idea of supply and demand is that the price rises so that there's sort of a better equilibrium. So maybe instead of going in and being like, man, I'm going to buy 10 kgs of kumara, you buy one.

It's really expensive, but you still get to buy that kumara. Surely that just means that rich people eat kumara and poor people don't eat kumara anymore. It's not equal. That's what everything feels like. It feels like the people at the bottom who are struggling enough already just have to struggle more.

And the people at the top just go, oh, bummer, it's more expensive. I'll have 10 kgs of it. Well, and especially, I mean, gosh, I don't want to get into politics too much, but the talk of GST changes and similar at the moment would probably make that worse. Yeah. Which is...

Someone just texted in about taking GST off of fruit and veg and saying, surely supermarkets will just inflate the cost to reflect the original price and they'll just make more. Well, you just never know. But more importantly, and some stuff came out in one of the papers, I think, this morning, that said that, you know, the amount of money that a low-income household would get back on GST, only a few dollars, the amount that a higher-income household gets back a heap, a lot more. So we're helping the rich get richer. It's just unpolicy.

If you think people need a bit more support, and that's fairly clear that they do, change the tax brackets or something so that it's focused. I like him. Thank you for your questions. I like him, but it's bad news. Bad news, Brad. Brad Olsen, thank you so much for coming in. Thanks for taking part in Girl Mass as well,

which I know must have been hard. Just feel free to apply that to all that you do. Next time I want to talk to you about if everybody's leaving the country, why do we need more roads? But that's for next time, Brad. That's for next time. Because there's still 5 million people. Yeah, but everybody's leaving.

Everybody's leaving and no one can afford a car anymore. I'm trying to think now what the version of bromaths looks like. It's probably not a good thing, but, you know. Vaughn's version is don't buy that. No, we don't need it. It's very negative. We don't need it. That's very negative.

It's not fun. And then comes home with a $400 Lego set. Yay! See ya, see ya later. Actually, I'm going to have to stop you there, that's copyrighted. Susie Cato's a very

good friend of mine. She's already sued me twice, so if you could maybe get her to drop her litigious action, that would be great. Tell her I'll review her five stars

if she does the same for this podcast and then she tells all her friends. And if you're listening, maybe give it five stars as well. ZM's Fletch,

Vaughan and Hayley.