ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 2nd October 2023

Episode Date: October 1, 2023

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The ZM Podcast Network. The Flesh, Vaughan and Hayley Big Pod. Treat yourself to McCafe coffee with my Macca's rewards. Hello everybody. Good morning. Happy Monday. Can I just start the day by saying a big thank you to all the ZM listeners who came to my Christchurch show. Now, there is a moment in the show where I have a sort of mythological child

and it grows up and becomes a teenager and I tell it to be home by nine o'clock and every night I don't try to think of a name, I just think of the name. The early show, 6pm, the name that came out with my kid was Vaughn. Yeah, somebody messaged me. Oh, really?

Yeah. I don't know where it came from. I said, oh, Vaughn. And it was Vaughn. Yeah. And they were tickled by that. Oh, I wasn't insulted. No, it. I said, oh, Vaughan. And it was Vaughan. Yeah. And they were tickled by that. Although I wasn't insulted. No, it's high praise.

Yeah, high praise. Yeah. To be on top of mind. I'd name my kid Vaughan quite happily. The spelling. A lot of people can't spell it. No, I do V-O-R-N. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just for E's. For E's. Yeah. For them growing up. I just keep the G and the H out of it. Yeah. The two A's confuses people. That's a lot. You're growing up. I just keep the G and the H out of it. Yeah. There's two A's, confuses people. That's a lot.

You're the second A, you're like, huh? Where'd you come from? Cash Catch-Up continues on the show this week and throughout the day. So we do Cash Catch-Up 8 o'clock midday and then at 4 o'clock. So if you want to win some cash, I think it's the last week. Is it last week? Last week of Cash Catch-Up. Is it?

Last week. I enjoy it's the last week. Is it last week? Last week of Cash Catcher. Is it? Last week. So. I enjoy it so much. Make sure you're listening at 8 for your next chance to play. The top six is on the way. Yes, Maths is back. New Zealand Maths. Over the weekend.

No one's more excited than Vaughan. Yeah, you know I love Maths. Second, me, and then you're not so much, Fletch. No. So we're turning to Maths, Bell. We have to ding it every time we say that acronym. Married at first sight, New Zealand. For season three?

Or three? No, I know they've done two. Only Angel and Brett remained. Well, they were home and away. What about Steve and Kelly? Are they still together? Steve and Kelly? Yeah, they definitely won.

Well, from the New Zealand one? Yeah and Kelly? Yeah, they definitely won. Well, from the New Zealand one? Yeah. Oh, I don't think so. What about Russell and Hobbs? Yeah, right. What about Fisher and Paykel? Yeah. Oh, there was Black and Decker in the second season as well.

What about Saatchi and also Saatchi? They were related. That was yuck. It was weird. That was really yuck. Well, I've got the top six predictions for the next season of New Zealand Married at First Sight. All right, it's coming up. Next on the show, though.

A quarter of us set off with the best intentions for a journey to health. Oh, it's Monday. It's Monday. How many people are starting their Monday journey to health? Me. Oh, really? But something is bound to derail it.

I'll tell you what that is next. Play. ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. Nothing is bound to derail it. I'll tell you what that is next. I feel like also embarrassing, just outside our building, is a big billboard run by our company. And it's time to restart to maintain your device. I do love when you say digital billboard and there's like a Windows era update thing pop up. Shame. Now, look, October.

I feel like October is always a time when people are cranking up, getting ready for summer. Right? Like it's warming. And the gym gets so busy now. People are like, oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Going to the beach soon.

I left it a little late and now I'm off to the beach. And, you know, being a Monday, everyone's like, right, I'm starting now. You were just saying your friends. Well, my temporary roommate, our friend James, he said he's on a journey to health. But I said, well, are you going to come to the gym tomorrow with me? He said, no, I'll start Tuesday.

I want to sleep in tomorrow. Yeah. I had the same conversation yesterday. I said to Aaron, right, I need to crank it out. I'm feeling a bit rough. I want to, you know, crank it up a level. And then he was like, right. And I went to the yesterday. I said to Aaron, right, I need to crank it out. I'm feeling a bit rough. I want to crank it up a level. And then he was like, right. And I went to the supermarket. I got chicken and salad ingredients. And then we sat there and had lemon drop martinis.

And I said, should we go to the pub? Okay, right, yeah. Starting today. Starting today. Why can't he just go later in the day? He needs to sleep in. Your mate, James. Well, I don't know.

Once he goes to work, he does a gym after. He needs a sleep in. Your mate, James. Why doesn't he sleep later? Well, I don't know. Once he goes to work, he does a gym after. He's a morning gym or no gym. Right. Yeah, got to get it done or it's gone. Well, there was a study out of King's College in London

that looked at the impacts of snacking. Oh, okay. And they found that 95% of us snack, which snacking they equate to eating a meal that's not breakfast, lunch or dinner. Right.

So that could be pud. Yep. It could be morning tea, afternoon tea, little snack. Something from the vending machine. Yeah, a couple of baggies. Yeah. But snacking, even though these are supposed to be the little peppered meals, are equating to 25% of our calorie intake.

Oh, wow. Meaning that our snacks are really high in calories. Was that your first time reading that word? Calorie. I believe that called calories. Calorie intake. Which is meaning that our snacks are supposed to be little top me ups too high in calories. And it's absolutely

derailing at least a quarter of people's like healthy eating. Because when did people like actually start like hard out snacking? You know, like back in the days, it was just three meals, eh? Like, yeah. Well, I had morning tea and afternoon tea as a kid.

As you know. Are you talking more historically? Yeah, more historically like as humans. Well, there was never like a surplus of food. I think snacking was a meal because... Like you might have an apple or something, but like snack food has kind of become a thing, what, since like the 50s or 60s?

Yeah, probably. Yeah. Like you're talking like really like purposely produced food. Yeah, 100%, yeah. Cupcakes and crumpets were a long off. There is some evidence that humans at that time period were eating starchy cereal-based snack a long time ago. That's when we started feasting on grains

just like a biscuit like a bicky and a tea or something like that oh yeah but you can't have a couple without a bicky yeah gotta have a little bicky

well bickies aren't on this list but they were saying that the snacks accounting for the greatest caloric contributions cakes and pies

breakfast cereals ice cream and frozen dairy desserts Donuts and pastries Candy Cookies and brownies There's your bicky And nuts and seeds

Okay Nuts and seeds came in Because they're very high in calories America and snacks I've found a timeline Okay 1900s and 1904 At the St. Louis World Fair

Yeah Which is quite a famous world fair, cotton candy, hamburgers, hot dogs, and waffle cones for ice cream were introduced. So it was almost like America was like, the eyes are on us, we've got to have things, and that's kind of the start of it. So they're saying a hot dog's a snack, not a meal. The Oreo was introduced in 1912.

Really? Yep. Were they vegan then? Oreos, I'm not, I... Because that's one of the coolest things, right? Yeah. What was it there? Tasty Baking Company began to sell tasty cakes

that individually wrapped chocolate that revolutionised on-the-go snacking. Yeah. Snacking began to flourish during the Jazz Age when legendary sweet snacks such as Nestle drumsticks, Butterfinger, Mike and Ike,

Heath Bars, Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, Mr. Goodbar, and O'Henry appeared on the market. So that's the 20s. Wow. Then in the 30s, here come the chips.

Oh, yeah, okay. Here we go. Potato chips, corn chips, Ritz crackers were introduced during the Great Depression because they were a way

of getting more bang for your buck out of potatoes. Oh, yeah. Okay. At the same time, Girl Scout cookie fundraisers became so popular that they had to outsource cookie production to commercial bakers. It's Bickies. It's Chips and Bickies.

They used to make their own biscuits. Oh, they used to make their own. These are Chips and Bickies in the 30s. What had a popular, the biggest impact on the snacking industry and trends of the decade was the US involvement in World War II in the 40s. Popular and practical additions to soldiers' ration kits were Tootsie Rolls, M&M's,

and other heat-resistant chocolate. Tootsie Rolls. After the war, new products appeared on the market such as Smarties, Almond Joys, and Cheetos.

Hello. Cheetos were around in the 40s? That's wild. They feel very 1980s, don't they? They're too orange. 50s, 60s.

You wouldn't want to give yourself away in a trench with Cheeto dust all over your fingers. Yeah, when you're like, the glow. Licking the dust off before you picked up your gun. Be quiet, be quiet. 50s, 60s and 70s with a booming economy,

America began to see the rise of fast food franchises. Look, it's been around for a while. Has it? Snackin'. Your Pringles, your Doritos, your Lucky Charms, your Pop-Tarts, join me. What you're doing, Vaughn, is you're making me hungry. Yeah, this is derailing so much good stuff.

And derailing my JTH. Yeah. Well, good luck. I'm going to blame America. Yeah. It feels easy to blame America. It feels like their fault. Let's do that. It's not your fault.

It's America's. Yeah, bloody hell, America. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn, and Hayley. Fletch, Vaughn, and Hayley. Silly little poles. Yeah, bloody hell, America. Today's silly little poll. Should you text before calling? Like texting someone and say, hey, are you good to take a call? This sounds like a younger generation thing, doesn't it? Versus older, do you think?

Yeah, I feel like younger people are a bit anti on the phone call. They'd rather do voice memos and messages. Voice memos are great. Voice memos do roll. Love them. But sometimes when it goes back and forth so long, you're like, we should have just had a phone call. They'd rather do voice memos and messages. Voice memos are great. Voice memos do roll. Love them. But sometimes when it goes back and forth so long, you're like, we should have just had a phone call. Have a go at that conversation. And you can have group audio calls, can't you? Yeah, you can, yeah.

I appreciate a text if it's going to be a long call. I had a good girlfriend catch up the other day. Oh, yeah. And she was like, hey, are you free for a call? And I was like, yeah, great. And then it ended up being like an hour. So I always say that's other day. Oh, yeah. And she was like, hey, are you free for a call? And I was like, yeah, great. And then it ended up being like an hour. So I always say that's bad news.

Hey, can we give you a call? Oh, yeah. No, no, give you a call. Yeah, yeah. Hey, can I give you a call? It's bad news. Well, let's call for a goss. Yeah, free for a catch up.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, I think you're probably going to have a goss. Don't just call me out of the blue and then keep me on the phone for an hour. I'll be down for some goss. Yeah. Oh, you've got to call away.

Yeah. Should you text before calling? Of course. 37%. Nah, it's fine to just call 63%. That's quite a lot. Depends who, says Brianne. Mum, sister, hubby, I'm just calling anyone else.

I'll text first unless it's very urgent. Okay. Yeah. Fair call. Rebecca said, I can't text, that's why I'm calling. Okay. Duh.

Might be driving. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I do that sometimes. Chris, I say, nah, it's fine, but they don't answer. But if they don't answer, send them a note telling them why you called. Oh, yeah. So he's like, call, they don't answer, then you send them a note. Yeah.

But then sometimes when you call people, they're surprised that you called them, eh? They're like, hello? Hello? What are you on? I'm just calling because it's easier than sending a million messages. They missed to tell you. Yeah. Samantha, I'm just going to ignore the call if you didn't text first.

Oh, really? Yeah, right. Even from a close friend. She's just absolutely not going to talk to you. I always know when Vaughn calls, it's good, Goss. It's going to be good. Otherwise, it's voice notes or messages. Yeah. You know, it's great,

Goss, when he's video calling the group. Yes, you're like, he's got something good. There's something happening. Pour me a glass of wine. He's the modern day David Hartnell, I'll say it. He's bloody good. Pour me a glass of wine. He's the modern day David Hartnell, I'll say it. He's bloody. My lips are sealed. Bridie, unless the person you're calling has a newborn, just call. So there you go.

That's somebody else you're like. They might have the white noise going. Yeah, they could be dealing with the baby. Even then, that's on you. If you don't want to be called, you've got to have your phone on do not disturb. Oh, you mean that's on you for having a kid? And that too. Both. Both are things don't want to be called. You've got to have your phone or do not disturb. Oh, you mean that's on you for having a kid? And that too. Both. Both are things you've got to deal with.

Sarah says, because I need to be prepared. So text me first, but make sure it's not in an ominous way. Because then I'll freak out. Yes, yeah, I'll panic. Grumpy Lisa! Oh, Grumpy Lisa's message. She actually says, Grumpy Lisa repotting for Judy. She's made a typo there.

Oh. God, she'll be so angry at herself. That or her roots have reached the bottom of the pot, so she is indeed getting repotted. Yeah. I don't answer the phone unless I know who it is. My kids will text me to see if I'm at work and call if I'm not. So, yeah, text before calling.

And I feel like that wasn't even that grumpy, so calm your tits. That's what she said. She grumped it up at the end. It wasn't until she told us to calm our tits. Nice. Thank you, Grumpy Lisa. Don't bother calling Grumpy Lisa if she doesn't know who you are. No.

Because she ain't bloody answering. And if she's at work, you bloody kids. Would be her loss if someone's calling to say she's won a prize. Oh, she'll be so grumpy when she finds out that she could have won a prize, but then she didn't win a prize. So there you go. Silly little poll. Done.

623. Next on the show. The rule of 12. I'm going to teach us this. It's from a psychiatrist to help us stay calm in these troubling times. Can you tell me to stay calm? Calm down.

Relax. Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. There's a psychologist. No, psychiatrist, I beg your pardon. Can't remember the difference. What's the difference? One medicates and one does something else. Talks.

I've seen them all. I've seen them all. Psychology versus psychiatry. Oops. Psychologists talk? I like. I mean, they're both talk. I like that we Google things as we're doing it.

Psychiatrist has studied medicine first, then gone into a further four years of study and works with mental. And the psychologists only use therapies based on talking or doing things. Whereas psychiatrists sometimes use medication to help in treatment. Yeah, they do.

So they can't medicate because they're not doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists. This guy's a psychiatrist who also talks. He has shared online the rule of 12 that he gives to every single patient of his. It's a way for them to basically accept that shit happens.

Yep. And we can't always react to it. So he employs the rule of 12 that he kind of developed himself when he went on holiday. Now holidays with family, he's got a big family. Yep. Stressful. And he was like, well, I'm going to get grumpy.

I know I've got a bit of a temper. I know that I've got a short temper. I've got a short fuse. I don't have a lot of patience. I don't want to blow up. So the rule of 12 is that 12 things can go wrong and on the 13th, you're allowed to react to it. Jeez, you were waiting a long time.

Well, here's the point, right? I want to pop off now. I want to pop off at four. Does it reset, though, at the end of the day? Yeah, it's literally for an event. So like a moment. Right. Okay, we're moving.

So for example, producer Jared, he moved this weekend and came into work and told us no arguments. Wow. Unheard of. Unheard of. Absolutely unheard of. One of the first 11, they'll restate in the billboard for the people who have been listening to the show for a while.

Oh, thank God. Playlist 01. That's the user. Oh, look, it's on the huge desktop. Imagine if it landed under the desktop and there was something inappropriate linked on the desktop. Screenshots and whatnot. Or a folder called recipes and then that got put up on the big screen. Anyway, what if the person that sets you off the 12th time had nothing to do with the first 11?

It doesn't matter. It's the 13th time. So that's when you scream at them. Yeah, but it doesn't matter. You would have screamed at the first person or the third person or the fourth person, but you've actually just delayed it so much because he writes it down. So you but it doesn't matter. You would have screamed at the first person or the third person or the fourth person, but you've actually just delayed it so much because he writes it down. So you go, one number one.

Fletch. What did I do? Fletch said something mean. Number two. Vaughn farted. Number three. This is us on a trip together. Number three. Fletch and I are sharing a room. Unexpected. Number four. And three, Fletch and I are sharing a room.

Unexpected. Number four, da-da-da-da-da, right? And then we get to 12 and I'm like, one more and I'm out. Number 13, I pop off. But usually people find by writing it down and just going, It's kind of got it away. It's got it off your chest. Yeah, and you don't even get to 13.

Right. Because you're just like, you go off the flow. By the time it gets to eight, you might look back at one and you'll be like, actually, that wasn't a big deal. Actually, that wasn't even a huge thing. And old me would have popped off at one, but now reflecting back on it, and I've gotten all the way to eight without popping off, I feel a bit stronger.

Yeah, but there would be people listening now that work with people that by the time they get to not even 10 o'clock, they're probably up to number 15, 16. Yeah, totally. They're like, how am I going to get here? How am I going to get through this day? Yeah, what happens after 13? You pop off.

Are you allowed to pop off at 14, 15, 16? And then you start again or do you start again? You probably have to restart. Back to one, yeah. No, I think you just pop off for the rest of the day. And then restart at the end of the day, right? Yeah. Imagine dealing with someone who calmly dealt with 12 mistakes

and then 13 just popped off. Or dealing with someone who calmly dealt with 12 mistakes and then 13 just popped off. Or what's worse is you work with this person and you see them opening their notes. Yeah, you say something. After you've done something and they're like, hey, are you able to do that now because I'm a little bit behind? Sure, I can do that. And then you're number 10 and you're like, how do we get to 10 already?

Yeah, how are we at 10? Steve being very demanding. It's 9.30, he's already at 10. Everyone just stay away. He must have had a hell of a drive to work. I think I abide by this new trend of the treaties. Now, I'm saying treaty as in not a signed document in which two parties agree to something. Well, agree, we'll put that in quotations, but in which two parties agree to something. Well, agree.

We'll put that in quotations. Let's not get political into it. These are nice blankets and muskets, though. The finest wool. Just sign here. Just sign here. Now, I'm talking about treats as in like a little snack, a little sweetie, a little something that makes you feel good when you have achieved something in the day. So it doesn't even need

to be food. Yeah. Just a treat for yourself. So there's a few examples. People saying the one I just watched is a girl who has like chronic illness and anytime she goes to an appointment, she gets a little treat. She didn't cry during the appointment. She gets two treats. Now this is a woman who goes to a lot of appointments and I'm like, yeah, I get it, man.

If you've got to do something in your day That is like not delightful to you Get a little treat when you get through it But then everyone else is jumping on board They're like got up get a little treat I was going to say Be at work for a quarter of an hour That's a little treat

Well you've been at work for nearly an hour That's four treats That's what I've been doing I've been getting to seven o'clock and being like, should we get coffees? Yeah, yeah, little scone treat. Yeah, I know. But I do this.

I do this. I don't know why. Sometimes I will like finish breakfast and be like, no, just a little treat. Because you finish breakfast. Yeah, because I always have dessert after each meal. So dinner dessert, lunch dessert, breakfast dessert. Little treats.

Do you guys do this? You treat yourself? I guess. Because you do a lot of bloody manual labour, Vaughnie. Well, that's how I just justify drinking, I think. It doesn't have to be a little sweet treat. It can be a little drinky poo. Yeah, I did that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's giving yourself an incentive, isn't it. It's like, yeah, I did that, so I might have a drink. Well, it's giving yourself an incentive, isn't it? Yeah, exactly. Or I know that producer Jared, every now and then he'll finish a difficult task and then he pops out for a little vape. Thank you, Jared. A little vape reward. A little vape treat. I don't know if that's a reward, is it?

For me it is. You take what you get. Yeah, right. It's just a little something to be like, that's nice. Treaties. Little treaties. From the self-driving ZM think tank, this is the top six.

Married at first sight. Okay, so I can't remember because it was pre-pandemic and I think I just stopped. Just stopped learning? I think it was at the start of the pandemic, I just kind of purged anything in my brain that wasn't essential for day-to-day living.

But Brett and Angel were from the first season of Married at First Sight. And I followed them both. So they're still together? Yeah, mate, they got married, they're a baby. They got a baby. Brett and Angel were from the first season of Married at First Sight. And I followed them both on the Gram. So they're still together? Yeah, man. They got married. They're a baby.

They got a baby. Wow. Oh, no, they didn't get married because the New Zealand one, they actually legally get married. Whereas in the Australian one, I don't think they do. Right. They had a ceremony, but they don't do it by law. But the New Zealand one caused a lot of controversy by making it legal.

By actually making them. Yeah. All right. Well, I'm on shortaudition.tv slash copy underscore maths NZ. Married at First Sight is New Zealand is back, but this time with a brand new spin. Oh.

What's that? We're looking for brave singles to take the plunge if you're age 25 plus and genuinely looking for love. Then apply today in order to continue to the next step. Please read and approve the terms of use. I don't need to read that. I'll just click yes. Am I my name, my birth, my gender, my pronouns?

All of this jazz. Some questions. Oh, I've got to fill out the form before I can go to the next stage. So that's not happening. Do you want to be Instagram famous? Do you want to be famous? That kind of stuff.

Bingo. Top six predictions I have for the next season of NZ Maths. Number six on the list. No one's mental health is going to be in a better state at the end of the show than it was at the start. Yeah, safe to say. No one's. No.

No one's. Number five on the list of the top six predictions I have for the next season of New Zealand Maths. Someone's going to be set up with someone they've already slept with. Yeah. It's a small country. Yeah. It with. Yeah. It's a small country. Yeah. It's very possible. It's a small country.

What's, you know, like in New York, how they work it out, like per square metre, how many rats there are. Yeah. In New Zealand, it's per square metre how many people you've already slept with. Sexual relations that you've already had. Yeah.

Number four on the list of the top six predictions I have for the next season of maths. Someone's really only there thinking it's going to kickstart their career as an influencer. Yeah. More than one. There'll be more than one. Number three on the list of the top six predictions I have for the next season of maths.

The experts won't do an expert job of putting the right people together. I feel it's more TV producers putting together explosive couplings. Yeah. Number two on the list of my top six predictions for the next season of New Zealand Maths. Someone's dad's face at the wedding is really going to say, where did I go wrong without actually saying

where did I go wrong? But the face says it all. Yeah. And number one on the list of the top six predictions I have for the next season of Maths. Coming back to TV next year, the person that comes out of the show looking the best will be the person that said the least during the filming of the show. Yeah. Yeah, that's normally what happens.

That's reality TV rules. If you want to come out looking the best, say the least. That is today's top six. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Now, apparently, according to this stude, two in three, no, that's not it. Two thirds. But it's two out of three, two thirds.

With Elizabeth too. Your private school education really showing through again. Two in three. Yeah. Two thirds of people, in particular millennials, can't unplug from work. They say there's too many distractions. They've got their phone,

they've got their emails, they can't go home and just like switch off. Oh, you've just got to do it. You've just got to, like I deleted the work email app. If I want my work email, so I just log on.

Are we boring you? No, I'm really bored. He switched off and we're literally not even halfway through the work day. Born is managed to switch off not just after work, but during work. Here I am switched off. I'm thinking about becoming've turned it off. Bourne has managed to switch off not just after work but during work.

Here I am switched off. I'm thinking about becoming a life coach. Wow. You would be the most. She's millennials had a disconnect from their work. You would be the most low energy life coach anyone's ever met. What do you want? I feel like.

What do you reckon? Because I do lots of other things. It could feel like I don't switch off from work, but I switch off from each thing differently. Like when I leave radio, I'm not really thinking about radio, even though we just still chat all day long. Yeah. And then if I leave theatre, then I'm not really thinking about that.

You know, like I've always been able to just be like, bye. Compartmentalise. Yes. You've got a busy brain, as you've said before, so you've got to be doing something. You've got to be doing something, but it doesn't have to be the work, so you've got to be doing something. You've got to be doing something, but it doesn't have to be the work thing. It's got to be something else.

It's got to be something. It's got to be something. Yes, 65%, so that's almost exactly two out of three. Yeah. Two of three individuals born between 1981 and 1996. I think that's the last. The difference being that the following generation, Zed?

Yeah. Gen Zs, who I take my hat off to them because I don't think they buy into it as much as millennials do. Yeah, they're all about the soft quitting and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, the quiet quit and the prioritising and better work-life balance. What do you pay me to do? Oh, yeah, I'll do just that. I will do exactly what I'm asked to and paid to do

and not announce more. Yeah. Yeah. But I think the generation before, millennials... Now, what's the silent generation? Because there's a stat here on them. They're like my grandmother's age. They're above the boomers, eh?

Yeah. Above the boomers, 10% say that it's hard to switch off. Well, they're not working anymore. They're not working, yeah. We don't actually need their opinion. We don't need their opinion. We don't need that. And the ones that are, oh, no,

silent generation would be quite old now. But they probably just do stuff like deliver pamphlets or, you know, go get out there and just keep the brain going. Gen X, that's just before millennials, right? Yeah. They, same thing, 12% of Gen X, that's just before Milens, right? Yeah. They, same thing, 12% of Gen X individuals would review a work email before their official day starts or ends, you know, have a look at their work emails.

That's not a lot. If it's urgent enough, someone's going to call you, you know? I'm not answering that. I'm also, yeah, I'm always just like, yeah, get in touch with someone else who's more important and they can call me. But yeah, here are people that go through and replying to emails at like nine o'clock at night and they're at home.

No, don't do that. Life's too short. What do you need? Bit of money? Food on your plate? I'll tell you what you need. All you need, chips. Salt and vinegar chips.

The best way to show them. I was going to say life. Oh, yeah, and that too. All you need, chips. Salt and vinegar chips. The best way to show them. I was going to say life. They make, oh yeah, and that too. All you need is chips. Well, Consumer NZ have released their best list of the salt and vinegar chips. This is controversial. Yeah. I haven't read it, so I'm listening with intrigue.

Play. ZM's, Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Chips. I love them. Chip-es. I love a, Vaughan and Hayley. Chips. I love them. Chip-a's. I love a chip too. Salt and vinegar's my favourite flavour. Always has been. Don't get me started on people that do ready

salted chips. I don't mind it every now and then. I'm a sour cream and chives. Salt and vinegar is hands down snack-a-changy. Snack-a-changy's number one. They just came from nowhere. Over a few years, they are the number one chip in my heart and mind. Same.

My heart and mouth. And your mouth. And guts. And guts. Well, Consumer NZ did a blind taste test. How we taste tested. A panel of 12 consumer staff members blind taste tested nine varieties of salt and vinegar chips available at supermarkets in New Zealand.

Participants were asked to complete a small, short survey. They scored each chip's taste out of five and commented on appearance, taste, and texture on each sample. Participants had access to water throughout the taste test. I was going to say, like, what happens at the end of each chip? Do you refresh the palate? Do you come back in 10, 15? A palate cleansing sour cream and chives.

Yes, or a chicken. No. Not a chicken. Even the snack-a-changy chicken's better than all the other chickens. That's a good chicken. It's just a good chip. Not spawned, by the way. Number eight. Pam's salt and vinegar. Yeah, it's alright.

Tastes like cardboard. Terrible flowery taste that's lacking in flavourgar. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's all right. Tastes like cardboard. Terrible flowery taste that's lacking in flavour. It is flowery. It is flowery. They are flowery. Have you had them? Vinegar is barely perceptible. Oh, no. So that scored poorly.

But at $1.26 per 100 grams, not bad. Yeah. Not bad. If you were catering for a large party, you know, rather than a small group. And you didn't like them. If you had like 50 people there, you got to hit the PAMS. That's what PAMS is all about. Seven is Countdown Salt and Vinegar, which is like the Woolworths brand.

It's a crinkle cut. Some comment, I expected more flavor. Oh, yeah. This might be a budget brand. Overall, very meh. Okay. $1.20 per 100 grams the taste testers all knew the budget chip yeah you can sniff a budget chip

here's the surprise number 6 on the list copper kettle chip salt and vinegar oh they rule not a copper kettle fan I love a copper kettle significantly more expensive per 100 grams over twice that of its budget competitors but right down there.

Tastes like old deep fry oil not in a flavour. Crunchy but not in a satisfying way. Tastes like good old fashioned hot chips with vinegar poured over them. So mixed reviews.

Okay, yeah, right. Next, Eater Ripples. Yeah. Salt and vinegar. Bassack. At number five. Unremarkable but does the job. Don't know if I'd have been classed

these as salt and vinegar. Somebody else said, oh wow. That's actually the perfect representation. Unremarkable does the job. Yeah. It's a salt and vinegar chip. But forever, that'd have been classed these as salt and vinegar. Somebody else said, wow. That's actually the perfect representation. Unremarkable does a job. Yeah. It's a salt and vinegar chip. But forever, that would have been the number one. Yeah. Wouldn't it?

I bet people still buy them just because they're Eda Ripples. It's Eda Ripples. Yeah, yeah. And the big taste always gets through. Do you remember the ad with the chip? You'd go Bluebird salt and vinegar over Eda salt and vinegar, wouldn't you? Oh, you would go Bluebird number one. Because of the penguins. Because of the penguins. So number four is proper chips. Oh, yeah. Cider vinegar and sea salt. These look a bit posh, wouldn't you? Oh, you would go Bluebird number one. Because of the penguins. Because of the penguins. So number four is proper chips. Cider vinegar and sea salt.

These look a bit posher. And it says cider vinegar. Cider vinegar. It's not just salt and vinegar. It's cider vinegar and sea salt. I do like those though. Very vinegary, not salty enough. Lacking depth of flavour.

Vile. The worst, somebody said. I'm sorry. You asked for salt and vinegar chips and now you've got too much vinegar? Too much vinegar. It's okay. They still made it to number four on the list, though.

It was number four, yes, yes, yes. Number three is Heartland Salt and Vinegar. Now, this is a good South Island chip brand, isn't it? Yeah, that is, that is. Timaru? I think Heartland chips. I believe so, yeah. They're quite kettle-based, eh?

Kettle-like, but with a crinkle cut. Looks like a beautiful potato corrugated iron. Still haven't said my favourite. Crunchy, thin and light. It better be number one. Number two on the list, Bluebird Originals. Yes. Well, there you go.

That's your classic salt and vinegar. Decent crunch, nice crunch, not too strong on vinegar flavour. I don't like salt and vinegar chips, but these are palatable. Now, what was that person doing on the panel? Yeah, get out. Get out. They've tarnished the whole result. I don't like salt and vinegar chips, but these are palatable. Now, what was that person doing on the table? Get out. Get out. Get out of the taste panel. I don't want to hear from that. First equal. A what?

This is where my problem starts. Because one of the first equals, kettle chip company salt and vinegar, sea salt and vinegar chips. How can this kettle chip company be number one equal and yet Copper Kettle Ones were like near the bottom? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

They're the same chip. Yeah. Strong vinegar flavour but in a good way. Look like real crisps, not kids' party crisps. Lots of good blistering on the potato, crunchy but light. Yeah, they are well blistered. And the number one is the snack of Changi vinegar and salt chips. Thank God. I thought you said when we were going to be surprised that snack of Changi wasn't going And the number one is the snack-a-changy vinegar and salt chips. Thank God.

I thought you said when we were going to be surprised that snack-a-changy wasn't going to be number one. It's clearly number one. I hate a first equal. Get some more people in to break that tie or something. Get rid of the person that didn't like salt and vinegar chips. Yeah. And then let's have a recount.

So Eater owns snack-a-changy now. Do they? I think they always owned Snacka Changy. It was his brand? It was his brand. And he went in and said, can you do this? Right, so he's told them how to make the chip. Yeah.

Yeah, right. What he wants out of the chip. I don't know if Lee Hart himself went in and said. No, I think he did. Yeah, I think he's like, it's weird because you've got fit cut and you've got crinkle cut and you've got kettle fried,

but they don't all happen on the same chip. Yeah. God, it's good. They're good chips. God, they're good chips. I'm just looking at the chips. I'm just, they're just good chips. Good stuff.

Oh, well done, Snacker Changy and Kettle. Now that is, so far on the show. We've talked about giving yourself a little treat when you do a job. Yep. We've talked about 25% of people ruining their, kicks out of their health journey with junk food. And which is the best chips. So I feel like we really are trying to derail some journeys to health.

Generally kick off on a Monday, sending some real mixed messages. Yeah, we are. Although you've done well, we haven't derailed you because normally by 7 o'clock you'd be ordering a cafeteria treaty and you didn't. I didn't. The girlies went to the bakery and you didn't order anything. Yep. And I walked in, I walked past, it's a waft of a scone and I thought, I'm all right.

Let's see what tomorrow brings play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley play ZM oh oh oh ooh it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas oh oh oh 83 days, 16 hours and

28 minutes until Christmas oh yeah baby thank you to all of our wonderful listeners that see Christmas creeping in hours and 28 minutes until Christmas. Oh yeah, baby. Thank you to all of our wonderful listeners that see Christmas creeping in, Christmas penetration in the wild and send it to us. Have a little sneak sneak. Yeah. Let's start. Fiona said, this is from the Cambridge, New Zealand grapevine, your online community and

information page. Oh, okay. It's a mouthful, isn't it? Yeah. Could just be called Cambridge. Yeah. Cambridge NZ. Could be. She said it has been noted that

inspired by two florists in giftware having a sale of 30% of all Christmas stock. They're doing their Christmas sale on the wrong side of Christmas. Yeah. It's after Christmas that you have a massive sale. Might be good for you, though, because you need all your Christmas decorations for your first ever tree.

I do. I do, but I want them to be really cute. You know what I mean? This has got big Christmas trees. This has got a white Christmas tree, a blue Christmas tree, a red Christmas tree, a green Christmas tree. Oh, okay. Yeah.

No big pink Christmas trees. Look at taxidermy Christmas decorations. What are you going to get? Little squirrels? Do you know what I mean? Little ducks, little squirrels. That would be cute. That would be cute. Yeah.

That would be cute. Nothing like a dead duckling on the tree to say Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Is he caroling? Fantastic. Oh, it's all rats and stuff. Of course it's going to be. Everything else is too big.

And hard to come by. Ben said, Whitcalls and Rickerton has an entire display of Christmas books. Oh, it's too early. Oh, it's never too early to read Christmas in New Zealand. That's a classic. We've got that one. What was that one we had? The girls loved it because it came with a CD.

It was about Santa and Rudolph had the farts because he ate too many carrots and hay. No. Bad Santa is such a good movie. Such a good movie. Billy Bob Thornton. Oh, it's so good. Billy Bob. Piece of work, but fantastic, that movie.

Yeah. Anthony says, almost in a warehouse, full-blown, like, three-foot-tall Santas that you put at your door who do a little dance when they sense somebody's coming. Oh, yeah. Above some Christmas scented candles and other Rudolph inspired regalia. Justine says, Bunnings, my local Bunnings has had Christmas decorations for a while,

but they've really stepped it up now. They've got pallets and pallets and pallets of Christmas lights. Bunnings go hard early. Yeah. So they've really stepped it up. And Craig sends in reports from Tirapa Countdown and Hamilton. The posh advent calendars are out.

The Kinder Surprise ones, your Cadbury ones, your Smarties advent calendars. Those are nice. What are we, October, November? So we've got two full months before you even start an advent calendar. But they're getting the people that break them early. Do you think people actually buy them to do for all of October and then do one in November?

No, because there's only 24 days. Yeah, I know. Yeah, no, it's just December. It's just December. Right. But people don't buy them now to stockpile them for then. I think someone is literally buying them and eating all the chocolates. And eating all the chocolates. I mean, just buy a block of chocolates. Yeah. Right. But people don't buy them now to stockpile them for then. I think someone is literally buying them and eating all the chocolates. And eating all the chocolates. I mean, just buy a block of

chocolate. Yeah. Maybe because there's 24 hours in a day. Oh, yeah. Maybe you could just yum one an hour and get through a month's worth of chocolate in one day. Yum. Well, we've had a month's worth of rain in one day. Well, we've had bloody six months worth of rain in three hours.

We might as well be eating chocolates. Yeah. By the same premise. Alright, with all that in mind in how many days? 83 days until Christmas. 83 days away

from Christmas. Comet Cupid polish the sleigh. Right now Christmas penetration is at 47%. Oh!

It is beginning to look a lot like Christmas And if you see any Christmas creeping in Send it to us FVHZM on Instagram, Facebook Also Yep We're very close to 50%

And you know what that means What does that mean? We might have some little in-studio visitors next time we do it It's been a lot like Christmas No Really? That's 50% No

They're going to be a year older They. They're going to be a year older. They are. They are going to be a year older and they stay until. No. I wasn't going to say who. I was going to leave it as a surprise. The Christmas orphans are banned. No.

From ever coming back. They've been raised by Mummy Carwen and Daddy Jared for a year. Well, they actually did that because they've been trespassed from the building. Oh my God, did they get returned? Don't tell... We'll find out next time. No. I'm just forgetting to look.

Like Christmas. Oh, no. So, yesterday I caught up on the new season of The Kardashians. Well, there's only one episode. Yep. And one of the episodes, they go on holiday somewhere, Cabo. Cabo? Oh, yeah.

Mexico? Yeah. Yeah. And they're at this very fancy beach house and they're looking out and then someone says, like someone who's like running the house says, oh, we've been really lucky because we've had lots of whales recently. And everyone's like excited to see a whale and then chloe kardashian's like oh my god i feel like i could be sick like oh my god she's like in

a real state and then they see a whale and turns out she's got a phobia of whales like actually like a full-on like she's like i feel unwell thinking about them she revealed that her daughter true uh draws photos of whales, draws pictures of whales and gives them to her mum, like knowing that she hates whales. I could draw a pretty good whale. Can you draw a good whale?

Give us a whale. Here's a pen. Give us a whale. This was the way to do it is you did like a big lump and then down and then you went wave, wave, wave, wave, wave and then you went tail.

I mean, this doesn't work on the radio, does it? But the whale's not even, that's not even the whole whale. No, that's a silly whale. Most of it's underwater. Listen up, most of it's underwater. Then that's the trick. Let the water hide the whale. That's cute.

It's quite cool, actually. It is quite cute. You've done well. I haven't done that for ages, too. I could probably get better if I practiced. All right. We won't upload that to social media. This is a whale, and then I'm going to draw a little boat over here

because they're out whale watching. But I can't draw a boat and then I'm going to draw a little boat over here because they're out whale watching. But I can't draw a boat so I'm going to draw a kayak. And then when it comes to drawing the person's hands on the kayak, I'm just going to knuckle them up. Yeah, you do that. So apparently she was like, didn't you hear the story of the people who were swimming got sucked into a whale's mouth and then spat out again?

That happened one time to like a scuba diver right now. It was like, it was a little bit freaky, but it was over very quickly and like I was in its habitat. It's happened one time. She's not thinking of that Bible story because I don't believe that one or Pinocchio. I don't know either, but I think it's a very kind of a silly phobia and this comes from a woman who herself has a silly phobia,

of which we cannot say on the radio, but it's emotional. Vaughn and I are not even allowed to say the word around you. And every now and then when it pops out, it seems like a bolt down my spine. I'll say it now so the listener knows. Moths. Just let that linger in the room. In fact, did you see when I killed that one

There was one flying by you this morning Fletch was like flapping behind me And I was like what the hell is he doing That's why you do it We just do it subtly I think I want to hear from our listeners Your silly phobias You know it's like

I'm afraid of heights Makes sense if you fall off it you'll die I'm afraid of flying I get it if a plane crashes you'll die I'm afraid of heights. Makes sense. If you fall off it, you'll die. That's not an unusual phobia. I'm afraid of flying. I get it. If a plane crashes, you'll die. Yeah. I'm afraid of whales. You're never going to be near them.

Yeah, yeah. You're never really going to be near them. Well, what about people that are like clown phobia, allergic to clowns or balloons? Allergic to clowns. No, not allergic. I was thinking latex balloons. You're scared of the phobia of clowns. I'm afraid of balloons.

I mean, that's probably more the movie, right? It. Yeah, totally. Have you seen, there's that thing on, there's a video of the woman on TikTok and she's like, is there a sound you can't stand? Mine's, star of her. She's trying to open up her takeaways.

She's like, star of her. She can't say it. I can imagine that's because of the texture, right, and the sound it makes. Here's an example. Someone just texted in wet glad wrap. What? That's what we want to hear, you stray ass.

What? So, like, if they're opening up a wet sandwich, like a soggy sandwich. Why is your sandwich wet? Because you put in too much tomato and juice and relish. Oh, no. Well, that's your fault. I love a wet sandwich.

You're a terrible sandwich architect. No, the sandwich has got to be wet. Okay, so what is your unusual phobia? We would love to know this morning. Like Kourtney Kardashian, phobic of whales. Yeah. Phobic of whales? Is that the right?

Phobic of whales. Phobic of whales. Yeah, sure. Whale phobia. We are talking about your strange phobias, and we're not here to laugh or judge. I've got a silly one as well. Khloe Kardashian is afraid of whales.

You don't like... M-O-T-H-ers. Georgie, what is your phobia? Hi, guys. Good morning. She's just thinking about it. Wait, it's not me, is it? She's thinking about it, yeah.

This must be hard to ring up and literally talk about the thing that terrifies you. You can describe it. I can't even say the word. I'm scared thinking about it. Really? I'm a first of all long-time listener, first time caller. I could describe it. I can't even say the word. I'm scared thinking about it. Really? First of all, long-time listener, first time caller. I could feel it. I could feel it.

I grabbed the bell. I could feel it. Could you? Okay. All right. Well, welcome to the show, Georgie. Safe place. What is it that you don't like?

I think it's called columnar fibro or something, but it's the fear of buttons. Are we talking buttons on clothes or push buttons? Yeah, all of it. Buttons on clothes. Oh, buttons on clothes. So I don't wear anything, and my partner's not allowed to wear anything that has buttons on it.

Wait, but what about a shirt? What about a shirt? Yeah. No, not at all. I won't wear it. So what if there's Like there's a wedding And you've got a nice dress Without buttons

And then your partner What's he gonna wear A t-shirt I would not be able To touch him With his dress buttons Wow Like I wouldn't hug

Or anything like that What about jeans If you wear jeans It's got one button At the top Like the denim Yeah denim I'm getting okay with that.

More of a dome, actually, though. It is more of a dome, isn't it? You can kind of cover that with a T-shirt. Yeah, but that's a big natural thing. Whereas, like, these, I'm wearing a shirt today. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, my God, there's so many buttons.

They literally disgust me. Yeah, they're big. Wow. Big buttons, too. Where did this start? I have no idea. It's from as long as I can remember. So, like, back in school when you had to, like,

have a couple buttons on your shirt sometimes. Oh, hideous. Oh, like a pangolin. Oh, my God. Georgie, this is so interesting. I've never heard this. Oh, my God, me neither. Have you ever heard of anyone that's in the same boat as you?

No. A lot of elastic and a lot of Velcro, I imagine, in your life. Yeah, if you Google it, it says it's, like, relatively rare, but, yeah, I've never heard of anyone. Or at least not anyone's going to admit that. Yeah, yeah. Componophobia. Yeah.

Is a button-phobia. Wow, wow. Georgie. And one of the things it brings up is, have you heard that movie Coraline, where she, like, wishes for a better family or something, and her mum from the other one has buttons for eyes and that's

the big difference between it. That's the photo that they use that triggers people with your phobia. Kieran, what's your unusual phobia? Hello, Kieran? Kieran's dead. Talking on the phone. Kieran's dead. Could be talking on the phone.

Could be talking on the phone. Let's go to Becca. Becca, what's your unusual phobia? Mine is the sound of cutlery banging together. You know when you're like putting it away in the drawer? It's like pshh. Yeah. Like could you stir something, like could you stir coffee in a cup?

Yeah, no, I could stir coffee in a cup, but I can't put it away. Like, I have to leave that job for someone else when it's cleaning out the dishwasher. What? You're right. Is this just, like, a stainless steel? That's fine. Is that okay?

Is that okay? Yeah, that's fine. It's like clanging it. Uh-oh, we've got two. Oh, no, don't. Like that, that noise there? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, like that. Don't set her off, don't set her off.

You must have hated it when the top twins used to play the spoons. Oh, yeah, your least favourite instrument. Hey, we're talking about your unusual phobias, Chloe Kardashian. Yep. It's whales. It is whales, so much so that her daughter taunts her by drawing her pictures of Wales, saying, too mum.

Emma, what is your unusual phobia? Mine's cotton balls. Oh, yeah. I had a few messages from people who were scared to freak out by cotton balls. Is it like styrofoam? It's the texture? I'm fine with styrofoam, but, yeah, it's just the texture of them. And, like, especially if they're wet, like I just cannot deal with them.

Yeah, they're actually feral. I actually agree with you there. I think they're disgusting. Like, they almost hurt my teeth. Yeah, they squeak. Yeah, I know. But what about if like, the dentist has to chuck on those big ones if he's doing a filling of a cotton ball? Oh, I'd rather not. Yeah, I'd tell him

to get stuffed. Bite on his finger. Yeah. Somebody said an old colleague of mine was terrified of cotton wool as well. Would run screaming from the room, gag, start sweating, all of it. Would terrorise him with it. We thought it was fun. Not what you'd expect from a 50-year-old farmer. Cara, good morning.

What's your phobia? Cornflower. Cornflower, yes. You hear Cara go, cornflower. Cornflour Cornflour Cornflour And that's the texture right? Smell Texture, sound Name, everything I don't like the name

Marshmallows? Is that cornflour or marshmallow? Yeah it's cornflour or marshmallow Yeah that's why it makes it so, yeah, gross. It's why they don't stick together. Yeah, yeah. It's the stuff from sticking together. Yeah.

It must be a thin amount of light. It makes a squeaky sound. Yeah. It's not a good thing. What about halloumi cheese? No, it's just revolting. I just think it's funny to say the word around me. No.

Because I just squirm and like wrench and run away. It's like Hayley with the word M-O-T-H. Yeah, I didn't say it. I just spelled it out. Do you know they've learned to respect it?

Yeah. And it's great. Keda, thank you. Some messages in. I've got a jewel fair of balloons and clowns. When my kids go to a birthday party and bring a balloon home, I come out in a cold sweat and have to make an excuse for my husband

to pop it or to let it go. And also just the thought of a clown twisting balloon animals makes me want to like vomit and cry. I'm scared of old potatoes. I get this one. I get it. When they start to sprout, when you've got them in the cupboard and you forget about them and they sprout

and they throw out those alien looking tentacles. Tentacles that are their roots because they're trying to find nutrients so they can continue to, you know, replicate themselves. But I do get it. They're a bit warty and weird. And they grow in the green. It's like monsteras do that as well. They put those roots out. Those arrow roots.

And those will just keep going if you don't cut them off. Yeah, cut them off. Birds. Someone said my fear is Dr. Seuss. Oh. I'm not sure why you're scared of Dr. Seuss. It's a bit creepy. He's a rhyming storyteller.

Yeah, but not actually a medical professional, is he? No, he's not actually. No. Isn't that the hard way? I've heard from a lot of people with trypophobia, which is the fear of a cluster of small holes, like crumpets. Crumpets should be thrown into the sun. Yep.

Which would actually toast the crumpet quite quickly. So you'd want to only have it in the sun very momentarily. But don't you just think about those holes as an opportunity to fill them up with golden syrup or honey? Yeah. Or I think it's what's hiding in the holes that freak people out. What, like little monsters? Little monsters.

What about my old boss was petrified of baked beans? Why? Yeah, I don't know. I have a massive phobia of seeing boats on the water. It's so strange. I just can't stand out of water. Sorry. I just can't stand the bottom of a boat.

If there's one of those dry docks. And I accidentally said, I'm like, no, no, no. I don't know. What? The texture of popsicle. The what? The texture of popsicle sticks. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I used to sit in your arm. It's like those things they put on your tongue and they say R and I'm always like. It's like you doing COVID tests. Oh, my God. You're the pets. And then I have a cough and a sneeze and I have to have a spit. Yeah, good stuff.

Play ZM's Fletch for the daily. Play ZM's. ZM's 25K Cash Catch Up. Joining us for Cash Catch-Up is Angel. Good morning, Angel. Good morning. Good morning. All right, well, by now we all know how the game works.

You've just got to say stop to lock in the dollar amount before Cashy blows up. Now, we've had some big wins. Yes, we have. Some average wins. Are you feeling lucky? Oh, I'm hoping so. It's the start of the week. It's Monday. Cashew was at the party

with the Hawke's Bay Rugby Union when they won the Shield off Wellington. He's a bit slow this morning. I think he might be a bit worn out. Let's see how it goes. You yell out stop when you want to lock in that cash. Here we go. Ready.

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555. All right. Oh. $495. That's a term deposit. $555. Oh, wow. Oh. Oh. Oh, Carwen. Oh. Oh. We're going to have to go to the audio replay of this, Angel.

I think the explosion started. I do too. I thought I heard explosion before stop. Oh, Angel. That is, you can't unexplode an improvised device once it's exploded. You can't. Can we listen back?

Because it was literally split seconds. I heard the last time I screamed it, but I didn't hear the explosion. Okay, producer Jarrett is going to give us a replay here. Let's have a listen. No, go back. Back further, Jarrett. Go back. No, go back. Go back again. Let's have a listen. No, go back. Back further, Gerard.

Go back. No, go back. Go back again. 555. Oh, come on. Go again. Go again. Come on. This is all on the fly.

I don't know if we can slow it. 555. It's kind of the same time, isn't it? It's like she would have opened him out to say stop. What does the WAVE file look like? Jared, you know what a WAVE file looks like. Oh my gosh. What does your mom look like?

I mean, look, to be honest, it's not my money. I don't care. We should just give it to her. Surely. She literally would have gone before the bomb went off. We could actually put this money towards fixing the Ranfuli shield, is what I'm saying. I don't.

This money doesn't come to us if we don't give it to Angel. That's not, yeah. One more time, one more time. No, Jarrod's just looking at a wave file now. He's leaned right into the screen too. Angel, we take this very seriously. It's not our money. We should just give it to her.

Jarrod's shaking his head. He's going to be bad cop. Oh, Jared, how can you do this to Angel? It's Monday. You heard her. Let's put this to a jury of our peers. Let's put this to a jury of our peers. The listener?

No, no, no. There's seven people here. Three were dressed as three. Georgia Burt, she could hold it. Okay. All those in favour of giving Angel the money, put your hands up. One, two, three, four, five.

Wow, Vaughn. You voted no? Angel Vaughn didn't put his hand up. I was abstaining. Angel, we're just going to give you the cash. $595. $555. $555.

$555. $555 is yours. It was tight, but we'll give it to you. Awesome. Thank you so much, guys. Also, I'm a long-time listener and-5-5 is yours. It was tight, but we'll give it to you. Awesome. Thank you so much, guys. Also, I'm a long-time listener and first-time caller. First-time winner now, too. Yeah, congratulations.

Congratulations. Now, I went to Christchurch on the weekend. Thank you so much for everyone who came to my show on Friday, my showza. Did two shows. And it was a bit wild getting there, I have to say. Thank you so much for everyone who came to my show on Friday. My showza. Did two shows. And it was a bit wild getting there, I have to say. We got a flight that Aaron wasn't even booked on, so I had to book that if you were listening last week.

If not, catch up on the podcast on iHeartRadio. That was an expensive mistake from you. Truly was. And I woke up, because I can't stay awake on planes. It's like a superpower I have, which I'm very grateful for. I woke up to the plane basically, like, diving to the side and, like, down and to the side. And it was the most, this is from a Wellingtonian, the most outrageous landing I have ever experienced in my life.

Really? She's been windy. She has been windy. And more wild weather as well today. So, yeah, I had friends flying on into Auckland even on Friday, late Friday, and they said that was crazy. Yeah, this was like no

fun. And Aaron was having such a bad time and he'd already had like kind of a crook guts and was almost reaching for the bag. It was so bad and then uh it kept doing that thing you know we're like it drops i love it i like it on a roller coaster i don't like it on a commercial aircraft but not only doing the dropping not only that but wings though. Not only that, but like also diving to the side, like tipping like this.

Jesus. It was brutal. And then the captain comes over the thingy. Yeah. And he's like, can everyone. Brace for impact. When he started talking, I was like, oh my God, they're going to drop the bloody oxygen masks. But he was like, no, can everyone turn on the air con, like the little twisty knob.

Yeah. To release some of the pressure from the cabin. What? He's like, it'll help us. And I was like, what? Wait, where does that air come from? I always assumed that air was just circulating in the cabin. I know. Are we taking a bit from the outside?

Wait, I've never, what, like when you land, you might pop or something. It's so weird. I have no idea. You're in a soda bottle and he's like, if everyone could just open the lid just a little bit. Yeah. Wait, I've never ever.

Everyone's hand was like, like twisting all the nibbly bits. I've never heard that in my life. I know, it was the most bizarre thing. I'm going to need a pilot listening to explain that. Yes, please, yes, please. Or a flight attendant. Why would that have happened? Yeah, so everybody undoes the air vents for landing.

Yeah, rough as guts landing. I mean, shout out to the pilot. He absolutely did his best. Anyway, we get there. We make it alive. Did Aaron, Charlie? Aaron did not enjoy it. He didn't spew, thank God.

And then we get there and, oh, it's a beautiful day in Christchurch though. Like crisp, but like sunny, stunning. Loved it. All the cherry blossoms are blossoming at the moment. Do we have an answer? Apparently the plane doors have pressure lights and if the lights are flashing,

they aren't allowed to open the doors due to pressure. Well, that didn't really answer the question. Yeah, no, we need more on this. Why did we need to turn on the air con? I told you it was a bad idea to have too much kombucha on board. Yes, I know. But it was from all the champagne I'd had. Anyway, so it was good. It was

a good trip to Christchurch. However, there was another little plot twist that almost was a disaster. Actually timed out quite well, but I was getting ready. We had a nice afternoon. Went to the theatre, packed in. Had about an hour and a half until the audience, until the show

was on. You didn't forget your dress again. No, no, no. The costume was at the theatre. I was getting ready, sort of warming up a little bit, did my face. Yep. And then Aaron was hanging around for me to start. And then I was like, it's time.

Audience is about to come in to the building, which was like half an hour before I was going to be on stage. And I was like, I'll go put on, because I wear two pairs of control underwear on stage. It just helps me feel all tucked in and tight. You don't want a Lenny Kravitz, do you? You don't want a Lenny Kravitz. Two pairs of control unders and a pair of tights. For those who aren't familiar with the Lenny Kravitz event,

could you run us through that? Well, Vaughn, he squatted. Penis landing, penis. He was wearing leather pants. He squatted down and his penis popped out of the rip in his leather pants. He was commando. He was commando. In leather.

In leather. And we all saw his Lenny Kravitz. Yeah, we did. As it touched the ground. Did we see the Lenny? Did we see the Lenny or did we see the two Kravitzes? Just the Lenny. I thought we saw the two Kravitzes? Just the Lenny. I just saw Lenny. I thought we saw the two Kravitzes. Well, have a Google.

Have a Google on your computer. It won't work when you do it. Well, I was trying to avoid a Lenny Kravitz. Two pairs of undies and a thingy. And then I go to the bathroom to get changed, take off the undies I'm wearing. Got my period. Now, I'm literally about to walk onto stage like

great so you'd say great timing at this point great timing yeah no because I don't usually

use tampons so no I've got no tampons on me all my period undies they're in Auckland because I wasn't expecting this yeah because you know

I'm off the pill at the moment so it's all rogue I've got no way of yeah tracking it actually thank god it's arrived actually go on why won't you go to the doctor Cracking it. Actually, thank God it's arrived.

Actually, go on. Why won't you go to the doctor? Better than another little arrival in nine months' time. Am I right? You still won't go to the doctor. No, I don't want to wait. If it hadn't arrived, it wouldn't be a little arrival in nine months' time. Your fiancé's 6'6", and you're pushing 6'4".

It'd be a big, big arrival. She'd be a ripper. She'll be a long one. Anyway, so yeah, I had to, I was like, Aaron! Who was literally about to leave because he was going to go babysit the nieces while our sister-in-law came and saw the show.

And he had to do a little boyfriend run up the road and texted me like, what size? Oh, he's a good man. Regular! Came back and was like, are these it? I was like, they'll do. All bloody. You'll only buy Maxi or Superflow once if your partner's not.

You'll be told in no uncertain terms. Well, it's not, yeah. It's about the flow, not the size of the ocean. I know, but it's tunnel. Size of the tunnel. It's about the flow of the river. Yeah. Anyway, sorted.

Near disaster though, because if that had arrived 30 minutes later, she would have been on stage. She would have been parading around, as you've seen I do, in that show in a very tiny little skirt. Heaven to Betsy. So

there is someone online who's been sharing a theory, a sort of mathematical theory, I guess, on how to know when you're dating, when to sort of go, that's the one. Right. And this person,

she likened it to hiring a person for a job. She used the example of a secretary and was like, you've got to interview, say you interview 100 people for the job. At some point, if you go over that number, you've already missed all the best people. Now we're moving into Driggs territory.

But if you land on hiring someone too early, then you don't know if the best is yet to come. Right. So she said the way that you do this, where you would hire someone or land in a relationship to know they're the one, is to get to 37% of your dating pool. So say you go, I'm going to date 30 people this year.

Yep. Or whatever. Or however long you want to be on the search for. At this 37% mark, you've dated 37% of the pool that you're going to date, you choose the best one and that's your bar of that, right? So you go, this is a person, this is the bar that they need to meet, the best of the bunch. Then you can keep on going, but if they don't meet your,

if they don't best that bar, that's one that's the person and then if you get to because it's quite early on 37% if you get to a new bar you don't go back and start again you go oh I met the someone at 60% met it was better than the 37% so that's my new bar but you never go past

your quota of like you never go back down and once you reach 100 you can can't just like keep on going. You go to the top bar. What if they've moved on? Yeah, hard to go to that bar and you're like, well, hold on, mate, because I haven't got to my 100 yet and they're like 58. They're not going to wait around.

Yeah. That's crazy. This assumes everybody is waiting for you to complete your numbers. It assumes that you are so good that you are the only driver of this decision. Yeah. Essentially yeah, that's what it's saying. But you can hang out with that person I guess for a while and keep it on the brewster. Like simmer them on the back burner.

Keep them on the simmer. Yeah, right. That's right. People don't like being simmered. No, they don't like being simmered. People don't like being simmered. I don't know if I've been simmered. I've been boiled and I've been turned off. Boiled up. Overflow in the pot. I've overflowed. Yeah've been turned off Boiled up Overflow in the pot I've overflowed I had a wooden spoon put on me

To stop me boiling over the top Or I've just been straight turned off And turned back to cold Right But never simmered I'm also reminded of that motivational post Where two people are digging, they're mining.

Yeah. And one person's like, I give up. And they were like inches away from getting to the diamond cave. Although they didn't know. And you never know what's just on, you never know what's on the other side. That sounds like gambling. Yeah, like just one more $20 on the pokies. Because they don't know how it could be right there.

The wind could be right there. You guys have got a great point. Let's go to the casino. Let's go. Play ZM's Fletch Vaughn and Hayley. Fact of the day is Sesame Street. Okay. Oh, my goodness.

Love me some Sesame Street. And I was told a fact, saw a fact, and I thought, surely over its run since 1969. Nice. Nice. Sesame Street has been on TV pretty much nonstop. Yeah. So surely it's full of facts.

And this is the fact that's kicking off Sesame Street, fact of the day, is that there is an episode of Sesame Street that was recorded but never aired. Oh. The name of the episode is Snuffy's Parents Get a Divorce. Oh. Snuffleupagus?

Snuffleupagus. Snuffleupagus. Yep, Mr. Snuffleupagus. Now, was there some cultural inappropriation? Nope. Okay. Nope. It was when they decided to cover the serious topic of children of divorce.

Oh, okay. And when parents get divorced and what that means for the children because they got in 1989, which was when they first wanted to do this, 1992 was when the episode was finished and ready for airing but they never aired it. There was a report from the US Census Bureau that 40% of American children

had experienced divorce. They said we've covered serious issues which have had significantly less across the board impact. So let's try our best to cover divorce in an episode. And they were like, what Muppet can we use? And Snuffy

Snuffleupagus was the one that they chose. Because it wasn't one of the main It was like an elephant looking It was a woolly mammoth. Yeah. Woolly mammoth. It was a woolly mammoth. Yeah. And for a while there, Big Bird thought...

Everybody thought Snuffleupagus was Big Bird's imaginary friend because he was never around when Big Bird would talk about him and no one ever saw him. Like Fletcher's girlfriend in high school that just went to a different high school in a different town.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was older though and super hot. Yeah, yeah. She's a model so it's hard to get her to come to New Br New York for the weekend. But he wasn't imaginary. He was a muppet.

Yeah, she was real. He existed. And she existed too. No one's questioning that. She was gorgeous. So they made the episode and they made it in conjunction with like therapists and everything that they always consulted for this sort of thing. Of course.

And then they decided to do tests with focus groups for children, younger children, sort of the core demographic of Sesame Street, preschool and early years of school. And they decided not to air it because of, at the end of it, even though they were constantly reassured by the other Muppets of these things, they said they believed that any argument their parents had would lead to divorce. Yeah.

Despite Big Bird saying quite the opposite. They were also, when they were asked about the relationship with the kids and the parents, they said, oh, no, I think the parents stopped loving each other and they stopped loving their children. So they were like, well, we can't have that out there. They said that every argument meant divorce. One of the parents had to move away

and the kid could never see them again. And the parents didn't love them as their children anymore. And they said, despite like the whole episode was based around the fact that those three things don't happen. Yeah. And divorce. You still get to see the parent that you don't live with full time. Everything.

So they were like, we just actually can't air it. And the accountants were like livid because they're like this was a very expensive episode to make. We had to make a Mr. Snuffleupagus who had not been on Sesame Street before. Snuffy's mum had been, Snuffy's dad hadn't been. And that's maybe why they got a divorce. She was left at home raising

the children in the mammoth cave and he was what golfing and pissing up with his mates? No doubt. It's time she Another lad's trip. Another lad's trip? Yeah. God. Think how big that bus would have to be to get all those lads on it if they were all mammoths. So they never ended up

using it. It wasn't until in 2012 that they made a non-televised special for Little Children Big Challenges and this one was Divorce where they did address it again. But this time I'm using Abby Cadabby not Snuffleupagus. It was not used at that time. They've also done episodes after September 11 and

Hurricane Katrina were two other serious ones. Very serious. But they made it to air. Yes. Those made it to air but that is the Snuffy's parents get a divorce. Never made it to air. And of course a bird and an ant gay marriage. That was a big one. That was contentious but they did it.

They did it. We knew all along. We've known forever. Very happy. We've known forever. You know. Yeah, well. The key is, the one's, you know,

got vertical stripes and one's horizontal stripes. That's how it's gonna work. That's right. Okay, right. That's how it's gonna work. So today's fact of the day is in 1992,

Sesame Street made an episode about Snuffy's parents getting a divorce that never aired because it didn't test well with children. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Yeah. Well, we love it when our listeners do all the work for us.

Yeah, thank you. Don't tell them that's how the whole show works. Oh, my God. It's how the whole show works. I mean, we came up with this. You shut your mouth. I mean, we thought of this. Yes, thank you.

Thank you. So I received a message over the weekend from Laura on the gram. She said, I'm currently watching an in-flight safety video about to take off. Impossible phoner idea. Has anyone actually used the emergency slide on a plane? It's bucket list stuff. I mean, it is, but it isn't, right?

Because if you're using that slide, something bad's happening and you're needing to evacuate a plane very quickly. Well, but if I'm using it, it means the plane's landed and I'm not dead. Yeah, but it could have crash landed. Yeah, I know, but I'm not dead. But you're not dead yet. What have we crashed into? I don't know, but this is the question.

This is the question. Well, they become a raft in the event of an ocean landing? Yeah, that's right. Has anybody, and this could actually be the impossible phoning topic, because how often do you hear of people actually going off the slides? Very rarely. Not often.

Not in New Zealand. Yeah. Like, you see the odd emergency landing overseas and there's a slide? Yeah. And we won't be accepting, like, because the flight attendants practice going down the slide, like at course and stuff. Yeah, no, if you've done course. We're not accepting course slides or training for the slides. We'll only accept, have you used the emergency slide off a plane ever. Is there anybody listening?

Because I think this could be the very first impossible phone-in topic. I'll tell you, the texts aren't pouring in. No, I think we've finally done it. We can finally do it. Is there anybody listening? Or do you know of someone that had to get off a plane using the emergency slide? Yeah. 0800 DARS at MSN number.

You can text through 9696. The impossible phone and tablet. I think we may have done it. Me too. I'm excited, though. Give them a chance. They're composing a long, sort of articulate and poetic retelling of their tale of setting off the slide.

Okay, well, the impossible phone and tablet. 0800 DARS at MSN number. You can text through 9696. Have you ever had to use the emergency slide on a plane? Okay, well, the impossible phone and topic, 0800-DARLS.M is the number. You can text through 9696. Have you ever had to use the emergency slide on a plane? Well, the impossible phone and topic, I think we've come very close. We have come close. Today, the impossible phone and topic, have you ever used the emergency slide on a plane?

Yeah, I feel like we would have heard of it. Overseas a lot. Anonymous joins us. Good morning, Anonymous. You have used the emergency slide on a plane. Oh, my God. Yes, we have. Oh, my God.

When did this happen? Back in 2012. Okay, and where was this? In New Zealand? No, it wasn't in New Zealand. It was flying from Gatwick to Florida. Oh, wow. And what happened?

It all happened really quickly, and it was a while ago now, but in short of it, we were in the air for about 20 minutes, and they realised that there was a fire in the hold. Oh, my God, my staff, my jacket. And then we returned back to Gatwick Airport and we came in pretty hard and had landed and then the doors flung open

and the emergency slides were inflated and we were all going down them, essentially. Did you go, wee? It wasn't at the time. At the time? Not so fun. I'm looking it up, I'm looking it up. It checks out the dates, the locations.

Oh my God, wow. Everything, it checks out. Four people were hurt. You weren't one of them? And so obviously the fire trucks turned up and extinguished the hold in the fire. Was the plane gutted or like? No, no, it wasn't. Wow.

Like, I think you can see pictures and stuff online. It kind of looks fine from the outside. Did that put you off? Did that put you off flying or you were fine? No, we had to get on the plane the next day to continue our trip. So you were working for the airline?

No, we were on holiday. So we were flying to Florida for a holiday and we got on a different plane the next day. So with the fire in the hole, did you lose anything? Yeah, this is a big battery.

This is pre-checking lithium batteries. So you got your suitcase out and all that? Yeah, yep. Wow. And does this make you pay attention in safety briefings now? Yeah, absolutely. Well, you need to. Unless you've already done it.

I'm looking at the slides. I'm looking there. There is the... I definitely just count the rows to the exit now. There is the Virgin Atlantic Airbus. Yeah, wow, that's a huge plane. Oh my God, anonymous. Anonymous, that's crazy.

Because like, fires on planes, like, that's lethal stuff. Yeah, it is. Oh yeah, it is. They're literally full of gas. Thank you so much for sharing, anonymous caller. We did have one other text in, so this is, it's ruled,'re literally full of gas. Thank you so much for sharing, Anonymous Caller. We did have one other text in. So this is, it's ruled, not impossible. Not impossible.

Used to be a practice passenger for air crew in fake crash practice. Oh, like how I used to act for the police. Yeah. So they'd be sitting on the plane, it's crashing, and then they, I don't know, maybe they open an envelope, and that was their inspiration.

I'd make it really hard for them. Like, I'd shit myself. Yes, I would literally force out of shit. I'd become paralysed with fear. Yeah. I'd just start rocking back and forth. I'd be demanding another drink. If we crash landing, I'm going to need another gin and tonic.

I just need to get my laptop. It's got important files on it. I need to get all my bag. My bag, my bag. I'll grab some other people's bags, too. Hey, remember how you just gave that Uber driver five stars because you wanted five stars back? Yes.

Let's do that with this podcast. Oh, yeah. Review it five stars. Tell your friends. And we'll do the same for you if you ever need a review for anything. But where are you giving me my five stars? Well, I don't know. Do you own a restaurant or something?

Yes. If you give us five stars on this podcast, tell us where you would like your review, and we'll review. We won't even go. We'll just review your thing. I don't want people to know where my restaurant is. I'm doing one of those secret restaurants.

Oh, I was going to say, because that's exactly the opposite of how restaurants work. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.