ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 31st October 2023

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The ZM Podcast Network. The Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley Big Pod. Treat yourself to McCafe coffee with my Macca's rewards. Good morning, welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. I'm just looking up the Skims men's undies. They're the official underwear. For research purposes. Sponsors and all that.
Starting point is 00:00:21 I would have thought they would have been more athletic if they're sponsoring the NBA. Yeah, I think they're also doing like a longer short and stuff to hang, you know, because... Like a boxer brief? Yeah, to hang out the bottom of the short. $49. It also explains why the Kardashians and Jenners have slept with so many NBA players.
Starting point is 00:00:39 They were doing market research on them. Yeah, they were doing wangs. How are we going to tuck in them wangs? Tuck in this wang. Not wrong. Yeah, they were like, wangs. How are we going to tuck in them wangs? How are we going to tuck in this wang? Not wrong. The wang tamer, wasn't that your nickname in high school? It was. Fletch?
Starting point is 00:00:53 I was waiting for that. I was waiting for that. I was like, here we go. Here we go. Hello. I'm surprised that more undie or like sports undies don't do like deals like this? Because the rugby at the weekend, you'd always laugh when you saw someone's like undies
Starting point is 00:01:09 and they were like... One of them had like rubber duckies. I know, cute. Well, we're the All Blacks and Jockey, right? Yeah, they've got... Do they have to wear jockeys? Because I don't know if they have to. Then they sponsor them as a team
Starting point is 00:01:20 and then a few individuals that aren't right. But I'm sure they give you a pair of jockeys to wear. But then if you've got lucky undies or you've got a pair that just suit you, that fit you better or that you have always worn, why not? Speaking of the rugby though, hey, we've got to let it
Starting point is 00:01:38 go. There's so many articles about like, this is why that try should have been counted and this we should do this and people threatening the ref. Is this your first post-World Cup working in media, like everyday media like this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Because this is what they'll do. They'll do it for ages. And then when the rugby season starts next year, it'll all be compared to. Let's move on. Let it go. The top six is coming up. Yeah. You know, Spotify had rapped.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Yeah. It's where you get to the end of the year and you are... Reflect on what you've listened to. Yeah, you are faced with the harsh reality of what you actually listen to compared to what you thought you had listened to. Yeah. You thought you'd created a cool musical lifestyle. It's not far away.
Starting point is 00:02:23 They always drop it. It seems to be coming earlier and earlier. Yeah. Yeah, so no one's exactly sure of when it's going to drop. But I've got the top six other 2023 raps we need. Like that goes back through things you've forgotten about and tells you what you did this year. It's coming up in the top six.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I'm looking forward to that top six, Bourne. On the show today as well, the lovely Tom Sainsbury, a comedian, joins us in studio after 7.30. Comedian. Writer. Director. Actor.
Starting point is 00:02:52 He's a very, very talented man. I know. He's got a new movie coming out. He does, a horror thriller. Carl Wayne saw it last night. Rave reviews from her. Rave reviews. She wouldn't stop raving.
Starting point is 00:03:01 You call her a raving lunatic. She's a raver. Yeah. Rave, rave, rave. She came in, do-do-do-do-do-do. People's dilatic. She's a raver. Yeah. Sort of a raver. She came in, people's dilator. We were like, whoa. We'll chat to him after 7.30 on the show this morning. Next.
Starting point is 00:03:12 We're going to start the show talking about dogs. Doggos. Little doggos. God, playing with your dogs on the weekend. Vaughan, I was like, I would like a doggo. That was a bit much. No, it was enough. And then they were a bit much.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Yeah, they kept jumping up. Then they want all the sausages. Yeah. Well, they've worked out why your dog will always be there to welcome you home. Aren't they sweet? Unlike a cat who just runs as soon as they hear a door open. You'll come back again, have you?
Starting point is 00:03:34 There better be food. We don't have a dog. I've never owned a dog. Neither. I didn't grow up with dogs We're a cat house We're a cat whanau Yep us too
Starting point is 00:03:49 Same But I do Because everyone's like Cats don't love you Now my cat loves me Holy moly Yesterday I snuggled into Aaron's armpit And then I was giving him pats
Starting point is 00:03:58 And you were just like God this cat Come on you know He loves us Cat people know You are just a servant It was 10 to 6 and he was definitely,
Starting point is 00:04:06 he knows, Rolly's smart enough to crank up the cute when it's close to dinner. Same. Because then we get all like, you say same as in your cat, same or same,
Starting point is 00:04:14 you will crank up your own cute. Both. Yeah, I know he does. You look in the mirror and you're like, you know what time it is.
Starting point is 00:04:20 You know, it's time for me to feed me. Yeah, you know when we were drinking the other weekend and I was like getting all cute, I wanted nuggies I knew it I get all cuddly and cute
Starting point is 00:04:29 You might even get a hug out of me I'll be like, the boy wants nuggies Yeah, he wants food Well, we know that dogs are more loyal They're so sweet And they miss you when they're gone Whereas I think, like cats Reading this research, cats Have no idea of time passing, right? That's why they just sleep all day and when they're gone. Whereas I think like cats, reading this research,
Starting point is 00:04:45 cats have no idea of time passing, right? That's why they just sleep all day and then they're like, oh, hello again. And then they're like, I do have a rumble in my tummy. That's the only thing. Whereas like dogs, no time. And when you leave the house,
Starting point is 00:04:58 they're often crying or they're upset or they wait for you. And people were like, how can dogs, like a lot of people were noticing that when you come home, the dog is already there waiting for you. And people were like, how can dogs, like a lot of people were noticing that when you come home the dog is already there waiting for you. Yeah. And everyone was like, how do they know? Like, how do they know to be there? Do your dogs do that? Yeah, but they hear the car come
Starting point is 00:05:13 at the driveway. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And your dogs are mostly outside. Yeah, they're outside dogs. Do you know Sade admitted though that when Vaughn's not there, they're inside. No, I know. She does let them in. Yeah. Who was like, I think James was like, oh, the dog's always outside. And she was like, only when Vaughn's here. The thing is, I'm going to get one of those chips surgically implanted in them
Starting point is 00:05:33 and then an invisible fence on the ranch slider. So if they come in, they're like. Oh, my God, Vaughn Smith. I don't know if you can do that to your kids. No, that's to keep the kids in when they're teenagers and keep the dogs out now. Okay, nice. We've got it at night time when they're like, hey, good night, I'm going to bed. Jokes, I'm to keep the kids in when they're teenagers and keep the dogs out now. We've got it at night time when they're like, hey, goodnight, I'm going to bed. Jokes, I'm going to a party up the road.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And then they go to go out in the winter and it's like... And then they just drop. They're having a seizure in the hallway and you come out and you're like, gotcha. You were told. So apparently the reason that they can already be there waiting for you is that they can smell time passing. What? I know. So I thought this was about like you is that they can smell time passing what i know so i thought this was about like oh they can smell when you're near the door but you're like no they're already there
Starting point is 00:06:12 like 20 minutes before they were filmed all these dogs and like 20 minutes within the 20 minute bracket of people arriving home the dog would be like okay i'll go to the door now and it's because they can smell time passing so So they've, dogs have worked out the rate at which their owner's scent fades throughout the day after they leave the house for work. So intelligent. Wow. So when the smell reduces to a certain
Starting point is 00:06:35 level, which is about nine hours, which is a typical work day. They know. They know that that's when the owner will normally, typically appear back at the door. So say you're there in the morning and you've got your pheromones or your aftershave, your CK1,
Starting point is 00:06:51 you've got your dupe on, your diesel, you've got your moisturiser, you've made a coffee, you're eating your breakfast. They're smelling all of that. They're smelling all of that and that's how I know my human is there. And then as that scent fades, the dog god God, they're smart, has worked out at what level it gets to that you'll typically arrive home.
Starting point is 00:07:11 So that's how they tell the time. They smell time passing. Yeah. It's crazy. It fades and fades and fades and they're like, they usually get home around this level of smell. This level of smell. Isn't that wild?
Starting point is 00:07:22 And then to test this, they were like, could we interrupt it? Or is it just that they actually know how to do time? It's got nothing level of smell. Isn't that wild? And then to test this, they were like, could we interrupt it? Or is it just that they actually know how to do time? It's got nothing to do with smell. But they got someone to come in and like, you know, waft the owner's T-shirt around, and it totally messed with their ability to know what time it was. Because they were like, well, I can smell the owner, so the smell's not down enough yet.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Oh, my God, that's really insane. So smart. It's so good. If you wanted to keep your dog chill because maybe they're anxious that you're a little bit late, you could just put Hugo Boss or your chosen fragrance into one of those fly sprayers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:57 And it would just keep a fresh scent of you around the house. Interesting theory. Mix it with like a coffee bean in there. Yep. And yeah, your scent, a bit of your sweat. Yeah it with like a coffee bean in there. Yep. And yeah, your scent, bit of your sweat. Bit of your odour.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Yeah. Rub a bit of sweat in there. Yeah. God, that's, that's so, I know, animals,
Starting point is 00:08:13 we don't deserve them. We don't deserve them. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Bird of the Year is on again. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Ladies and gents, boys and girls, birds and cats. What's your favourite bird? It's a hard call for me. I've got different favourite birds in different categories, but I was excited to read
Starting point is 00:08:32 that it was bird of the century and there was going to be included some extinct native birds of New Zealand. Because you know, if you're a long time listener of the show, I cannot go past
Starting point is 00:08:42 the Haast eagle. Yeah, this was a- The largest ever bird of prey. This is what, we used to have these in New Zealand. They were the wingspan of, what was the wingspan? Nine foot.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Nine foot. So three. Far out. Just about three metre wide wingspan. Like if they were still around, they could be snatching up your kids from kindergarten. Yeah. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:08:59 And bringing them home. That'd be perfect. That'd be great if you could train a Haast. Yeah. Save you on school pickups. The girls would just see if their backpacks were- And we'd need a special backpack. perfect. It'd be great if you could train a hearst. Yeah, save you on school pickups. They'd just see if their backpack's like, ah! And we'd need a special backpack. Yeah. You know, it's like when people were down
Starting point is 00:09:11 behind enemy lines and they'd fly over and they'd have a thing up and it would just snatch them up. Yeah. Snatch them up off a boat and stuff. That'd be great. It'd be like that, but with the hearst eagle. But no hearst eagle because I believe, because it's bird of the century, they have to have gone extinct within the last century. So no moa?
Starting point is 00:09:27 No moa. No Haast. Oh, for God's sake. Those are my two favourite extinct birds. We've got a laughing owl in there. Who knew we had a laughing owl? I didn't know we had a laughing owl. We're going to do a few more owls because they take care of the rats and the mice.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Because we've got more porcs and that's it. We've got more porcs. They'll eat a rat and a mouse. They'll nom those up. What does a laughing owl sound like? Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. Like that. We've got more forks. That'll eat a rat in a mouse. What does a laughing owl sound like? Like that. More.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I don't know. Because I guess it's extinct, so we've probably only just got the stories of how they sounded. The New Zealand thrush is another one of the extinct birds. Get a bit of cream on that. Yeah, get a bit of yogurt. Get a bit of yogurt. Get a smear of yogurt. It'll get right.
Starting point is 00:10:04 The South Island snipe. Oh, get a bit of yogurt. Get a bit of yogurt. Right. The South Island Snipe. Oh yeah. We can only vote for birds that have been extinct in the last century or still alive ones. All of them. But the five that are representing the extinct birds all went extinct within the last century.
Starting point is 00:10:20 So we've only got five extinct options. Yes. Right. For me it's still the Ketidu. I love the noble Ket got five extinct options. Yes. Right. It's got to be, but for me it's still the kereru. I love the noble kereru. Beautiful. And the tilly. Or the kakapo. Have you seen a takahe in real life? No. Because I always just considered them a fat pukeko and I'm no fan of the pukeko.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Because I think one's getting in my veggie patch. The takahe is about to go extinct. Well, they thought they were extinct, right? And then they found them in one specific spot and bred them up and there's this breeding program now but I'd never seen one
Starting point is 00:10:47 in real life until we were in town. Didn't you shoot one with your slug gun the other day? No, that was a perky. Oh, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Taka Hayes look fake. In real life, when you see it moving, you're like, no, that's wetter animatronics. That's not real. Good for you, Penny Jackson. They've got this big face
Starting point is 00:11:00 and they've got these big eyes and this big beak and they just walk around. They're fat. They look like a robot and they walk and they stop and they go. And you're just like, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is one of those Boston Dynamics robots.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Lucky that you've seen one. So I might actually vote for them. Okay. I'm a big fan of the Falcon. This is the problem that I get in and I'm like a kid in a candy store. No. It's truly one of the most exciting times of the year, isn't it? And then I scroll down and I'm like, well, you can't go past the Tui for an everyday bird.
Starting point is 00:11:25 You can't go past the Tui. What a morning chorus it provides us with. A beautiful song. Sade the other day said, oh, listen to that Tui. I said, my love, that is a magpie. Aww. Hon. There's quite a few interesting extinct birds in New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Oh, we had great birds. The Diefenbach Rail. What did that look like? That, of course, is the Maori word for it. Stripey. Oh, it looks like a little tiger. I'm looking at a vintage poster. Like a cross between a chicken and a something.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Everything for you would be a cross between a chicken. I bet it tasted a bit like chicken. Well, probably why it's extinct. Probably because it was gnomes. Are you going to assume all of these ones that were extinct either had really nice feathers that somebody wanted for something, like a hat towards the races back in the motherland,
Starting point is 00:12:13 or they tasted delicious. Yeah, that'd be it. All right, well, you can vote for bird of the year, bird of the century. Birdoftheyear.org.nz. Hopefully no Russian interference this year. There's always drama. Always a bit of Russian interference.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Always drama with bird of the Year. Right, I'm going on the website right now. I'm really going to give this some thought. Play ZM's Fletchford and Hayley. Fletchford and Hayley. Silly little poe. Silly little poe. It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little poe.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Silly little poe. Silly little poe. Silly little boy. Silly little boy. Silly little boy. Silly little boy. Silly little boy. Got a little sniffle there, sweetheart. I just had a little sniffle. Got a little stuffy. Blew a tissue.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Yeah, I'm stuffy too, but it's not COVID. Guys, just before we get into this, how am I going to choose bird of the year? Oh, dude, it's welcome to my, every year. Yeah. Like, I just saw the Ketadu and I was like, of course, it's my go-to. It's my number one. We get a lot of them around our house, but like, oh my God. But it has won before.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah. I know. And then there's all these beauties, absolute beauties. Silly little poll today. Do you celebrate Halloween? Happy Halloween. I'm wearing my Goosebumps shirt. Yes.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Is that a celebration? Is it an accident? No, this was intentional. Okay, good. An accident was that I got there in the morning and I looked down and I was like, huh? And I had it on back to front. Yeah, you had it on backwards. So I had to change it in the car park.
Starting point is 00:13:29 You could see a couple of other goosebumps. I could. If you know what I'm saying. I need a little goosebumps. I need a little goosebumps for that. Do you celebrate Halloween? 82% of people said no. Oh.
Starting point is 00:13:39 18% said yes. Just less than one in five. Celebrate meaning like get dressed up and go out and have a fun time. In any way. Celebrate Halloween in any manner. Well, I used to celebrate quite heavily when I was a gothy witch. Yes. I think my daughter said yesterday it's her favourite.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Because you get to dress up, you get to go for a walk, and you get candy. You get to go around and you see lots of other people in costumes. They're literally rules. Do you know what the weather's looking like at our place for trick-or-treating tonight? A lot of people did it the weekend. Yeah, our community did it on the weekend. That's cheating. Or this weekend coming.
Starting point is 00:14:10 No, it's too late this weekend coming. You'll be too close to the guy force. We've got a party this weekend. Don't we? We've got a Halloween party. That's not trick-or-treating. That's just a party. Later in the show, we are going to discuss what we're all getting dressed up as.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Ideas are being spitballed. You've left it late, late, late. Nah, I can try something together. Shana took the kids to Look Sharp yesterday. Wow, she's really into it. For a trick-or-treat costume. She said it was absolute madness. This is their holiday though, right?
Starting point is 00:14:36 Look Sharp, bloody love this. Yeah, yeah, they do. This is Christmas. As Italian plumber or nondescript boy wizard. Yes, I love it. Get in there. Laurent, Laurent, Lauren with a T on boy wizard. Yes, I love it. Get in there. Laurent. Laurent with a T on the end. Laurent. Laurent.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Lorraine. Still the best holiday ever. Skull emoji, ghost emoji, new moon emoji, zombie zombie brain, pumpkin, spider, spider web, bat, witch and wizard. Into it. Loves a Halloween emoji. Into it. Loves the Halloween emoji.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Into it. Tanya, not a New Zealand tradition, and I don't believe in kids taking sweets from strangers. And where's this? We've got a grumpy Tanya on our hands. We've got a grumpy Tanya here. We've got a grumpy Tanya. We've got a grumpy Tanya on our hands.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I mean, if the lollies are wrapped. Also, we're not really a Blades and Apples sort of a country, are we? Not really. In general. Also, that never happened. No. I listened to a podcast about the urban myths around country, are we? Not really. In general. Also, that never happened. No. I listened to a podcast about the urban myths around Halloween and it just never happened. Like razor blades and hydra slides.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah. Never happened. It never happened. Michelle says it's dumb. Straight to the point there. We've got a grumpy Michelle, we've got a grumpy Tanya. Even you go back 10 years in New Zealand, Halloween wasn't a big deal, but now it's just gone. It's just getting every year bigger and bigger.
Starting point is 00:15:48 We had Bible in schools, at a public state school in the 1980s, 1990s. Now, I don't know legally where that sat with secularity and separation of church and state. It sounded like you had some religious teachers crowbarring in some religion. It sounded like we had a local religious lady who would give the principal a couple of hours of admin time.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Right. Without cost. She told us if we celebrated Halloween, we'd be going to hell. Oh, dear. And then Brian's mum came in and said, I'm going to do face painting because I love Halloween. And straight after Bible in Schools, as this woman was leaving, she just saw the row of children lining up to get their faces painted
Starting point is 00:16:26 as like devils and stuff. Yeah, good stuff. I like to think all of our souls were prayed for that night. That's nice. Clota says, it's fun. Why not have an excuse to watch spooky movies, eat lollies and popcorn guilt-free? Plus my family is Irish,
Starting point is 00:16:40 and the holiday does have some Celtic pagan origins. Right. Yeah, right. Rachel, wish I could padlock my gate. Oh, my God. Grumpy Rachel. Everybody, come on. So grumpy, grumpy Rachel.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Tara, any excuse for me to cover myself in fake blood and scare children for fun is a weird win for me. Fun Tara. Yeah. Good stuff. Fun Tara. Corbs, eating the candy I bought for the neighbourhood kids counts as celebrating Halloween, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:07 Yep. Because you will, you'll buy, and then the weather will turn, and you're just going to have all these yummies in your house. This is where you buy two lots of candy. You buy the good stuff and the shit stuff, and you give out the shit stuff first. Hope there's good stuff left at the end. Yeah, for you.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Exactly. Any excuse to get dressed up and drunk? Says Nikita. It sounds like she's going through some you. Exactly. Any excuse to get dressed up and drunk? Says Nikita. It sounds like she's going through some stuff. Yeah. Grew up in America. It's so fun over there. I just try to recreate it as much as I can from Saskia.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And no word from Grumpy Lisa, who seems to have tempered off. Maybe she's having a good time. Maybe she's found some sort of joy or peace in her life. She's getting laid. She's getting laid. Dude. Grumpy Lisa's getting laid. She's getting laid. Dude. Grumpy Lisa's getting laid. She's getting laid again.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Grumpy Lisa, if you could just let us know if you're getting laid and that's why you've tended not to be grumpy in your responses. And we have a few more contenders for grumpy listeners. Oh, yeah. That's the thing, Grumpy Lisa. You've got Grumpy Tanya coming for you and Grumpy Michelle. A couple of grumps coming for the title. That's a little pong.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Play. A couple of grumps coming for the title. That's a little pop. I would never want to be given the responsibility of capturing a proposal. Oh, no. Definitely not. When people set it all up and whatnot. Even being a wedding photographer or doing someone's wedding video, the pressure. Like imagine if an SD card doesn't work. You're screwed.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I know. I know. No thanks. No, thank you. And that's why they carry multiple cameras, right? Yeah. And just continually are like, yeah, save it off. Get another one.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Get another one. Get another one. Yeah. And they're checking as they go, aren't they? Yeah. A lot of wedding photographers do, like, they'll stop a moment if they're going to miss it.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Have you seen these video where they're about to do the kiss, but the celebrant doesn't get out of the way? And so they're like, I now pronounce you blah, blah, blah. You can kiss. And they go to kiss and the photographer's like,
Starting point is 00:19:01 hey, whoop, you, move. And because the celebrant, that was the one thing I got told was like, when you announce it, step to the side so the photographer gets the first kiss, good photo, you're not there like, hey, in the back of it. How often do you... Oh, now you've got me wondering if the celebrant was... Moved out of yours. I mean, we're today, two weeks off. Your anniversary. Of our 13th wedding anniversary. Well, I mean, they've learned a lot in those 13 years,
Starting point is 00:19:29 but it's not the done thing now. How often do you watch back your wedding video? Every anniversary. Every anniversary. Oh, that's cute. Probably because it pops up in memories. Oh, because it's online. I never watch it. Okay, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I'm going to watch it this year because I wasn't invited. Didn't even know you. I wasn't invited. Didn't know you existed. I was 21 years old. I was old enough to't invited. Didn't even know you. I wasn't invited. Didn't know you existed. I was 21 years old. I was old enough to be invited. Could you imagine 21-year-old Hayley Sproul at your wedding? Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:19:53 21-year-old Hayley hadn't even heard of Waiheke Island. Too classy for me. Yeah. Anyway, so a man was wanting to propose to his girlfriend. A beautiful setting. It looks like, yeah, they're in Rome. I knew. I was like, that's Trevi Fountain.
Starting point is 00:20:09 So they're in Rome and the happy couple, they'd been like having a nice time. Mum was there and the boy had said to his mum, I'm going to propose. Can you film it? And she was like, I've got it. Gets out her iPhone. He gets down on one knee.
Starting point is 00:20:25 It's beautiful. We're in Rome. You know that fountain. Just a stunning occasion. And then at the end of it, they, you know, she says yes.
Starting point is 00:20:37 It's very happy. They go back to the hotel and they go, oh my God, my mum filmed it. No, she didn't hon. She filmed herself
Starting point is 00:20:44 the whole time on that awkward, oh my God, my mum filmed it. No, she didn't hon. She filmed herself the whole time on that awkward, sort of like thumb angle of like too close. So it wouldn't have had the top of her head and it probably had like halfway down her nose. Yeah, it's moving. Oh no. And then they shared it to their TikTok being like, your boyfriend gives his mum the phone to record the proposal
Starting point is 00:21:01 and it is just. Can you hear the proposal? Were they Roman? Were they Roman? Were they Italian? What was mum doing there? Oh yeah, holidaying with mum. During a family trip to Rome. So they had all gone over together.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Yeah, don't propose in front of your mum. I did one family trip and my brother's partner came. No, no, that's fine. But he didn't propose to her on the trip. No. Yeah. You can go on a family trip. It's like a special you moment, no, that's fine. But he didn't propose to her on the trip. No. Yeah. You can go on a family trip. That's like a special you moment, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is
Starting point is 00:21:31 the view they get the whole time and I'll say you know, she's chins out, she's looking down, she's doing her best. They're mama. She's absolutely stuffed that up. But look, the moment was, you know, the moment still happened. It was nice. No one filmed our proposal, thank God. You know?
Starting point is 00:21:49 Why was it that bad? No, it was lovely. But Sarah was in his undies and I was in bed. Yeah, okay. You know what I mean? I wasn't all dressed up in a white dress. No one needs to see that. No.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Play. ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. From the bustling ZM think tank, this is the top six. Hey. Oh. Hey. Hey. Hey.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Spotify rap is going to come out at some stage. No one really knows. I read this article. It's like no one knows. They don't have any like formula to when they've dropped previous years. It's just I think they get to a date and they're like, do it. Do you know what your number one song
Starting point is 00:22:28 will be for the year? No. No idea. You don't know? No idea. I have a feeling, but yeah, it always surprises you. You're like, huh,
Starting point is 00:22:35 yeah, I did listen to that a lot. Yeah, I'm seeing mostly podcasts. It annoys me though when they bring it out. Brown Noise will be mine. Oh yeah. Yeah. God.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Wales. Oh yeah. It annoys me they do it so early. Like, it should be done late December. Let me finish. Yeah. Yeah. I'm about to get my Christmas on.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I'm about to get Mariah Carey up in here. We're about to get gone. So, I've got the top six other raps we need for 2023. Okay. Number six on the list, the top six things you drank. And if what it wasn't number one, it'd be a great reminder to take a look at yourself.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Imagine that. By litreage. By litreage. Yeah, by litreage. What did you drink the most of? Mine would definitely be water.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I reckon I'd go water, coffee, Coke Zero. Now, see, I reckon you'd drink more booze than you would coffee. You think about you have two or three cups of coffee a day. I don't have two or three cups of booze a day.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Oh, my God. Like straight booze. Yeah, he does. Oh, no, but have you included the mixture of whiskey and... Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm including the Coke. That's why I said Coke zero number three. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Okay. Whiskey. Beer is probably beer or whiskey is number four. God, that would be a great rap. It would definitely be water and then Prosecco. For sure, not even a lime. Because you don't do coffee as much. I don't really have a lot of coffees.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yeah. Prosecco. And I don't drink a lot of juices or anything like that. Unless it's in a mimosa. Unless it's in a mimosa. Even then it's just a pfft. You're miffed by that. Like that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Number five on the list of the top six raps we need for 2023 the top ten insecurities you've noticed about yourself and really concentrated on this year crepe chest
Starting point is 00:24:13 crepe chest number one crepe chest aging chest yeah doing your chest to age number four on the list of the top six
Starting point is 00:24:20 other raps we need for 2023 the top ten TV shows you've watched again even though there's a The top ten TV shows you've watched again, even though there's a whole bunch of TV shows you're constantly saying, hey, you must watch for the first time, but you've watched these ten again.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Yeah. It's comforting, you know, when you know what's going to happen. True. In a world so unsure. I'd just rather watch a new show. Me too. It's the unexpected.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Now, top six other raps we need for 2023. Number three is the top ten treats you've overindulged in oh yeah this would also be interesting along with the booze like how many blocks
Starting point is 00:24:50 of Whittaker's yeah how many bags of chips got opened and never received oh I reckon cheese balls oh maybe nacho chips yeah you've been on
Starting point is 00:24:58 a nacho buzz this year corn chips rule corn chips are amazing corn chips rule especially those new ones I found those Tostitos nah not Tostitos?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Nah, not Tostitos. I forget the brand. Yeah, they are good. They're in a paper bag. There's a salsa Tostito. The plain Tostito, I've got no time for plain chips, full stop. The plain Tostito, you're like, oh, okay. But then the salsa one, you're like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Okay. Get it, my man. Top six other wraps you'll need for 2023. Number two, the top ten dreams that you can't shake and you've had multiple times. Yeah. Are you angry at your partner because they said something in your dream? They couldn't help that.
Starting point is 00:25:34 They couldn't help that. And number one on the list of the top six other raps you need for 2023, the top ten adult fun time videos you've seen online and thought about and thought, man, I'd like to watch that one again and try to find it, but you can't. But you can't bookmark it.
Starting point is 00:25:50 And I'm not logging in. I'm not logging in to heart it to come back to my life later on. Stop saying weird words, Hayley. I'm not. Blonde, brownish blonde, I don't know. Homemade, but with a professional angle. I wonder what I'm about to type a word but I've never imagined I'd type it into any sort of search engine So I'm just gonna
Starting point is 00:26:08 You'll never find it again You'll never find it again God damn it Never again Never This will be gone So I guarantee this will be Discontinued Very shortly So I guarantee this will be discontinued very shortly.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Yeah. So I think today is probably your last day to get involved. Are you sure? Am I sure it'll be discontinued? Yeah. I feel, hmm, I ought. You know what? Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I'm going to tell the story, then I'm going to think why this could be a ploy by supermarkets. Get to the bottom of it. So somebody posted on a money-saving group, Sarah, she wrote a public service announcement. If you're at New World and there's no hot chickens, you can ask at the deli counter, and if they don't have one, they give you a voucher for a free hot chook next time.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Because on their website, if you search free chicken voucher, it comes up saying the terms state that New World guarantees there'll be a standard hot cooked chicken available to purchase at any New World store on the North Island. Not the South. Not mentioned at the South. Between 10am and 8pm every day. If the store runs out during those hours, they'll give you a voucher for a free chicken to be used
Starting point is 00:27:18 on another day at the same store. Oh my gosh. Same store, different day. That's fantastic. Yeah, there is. Terms and conditions. There's a New World hot chicken guarantee. Who knew there's a New World hot chicken guarantee. Who knew there was a New World hot chicken guarantee? They've never advertised the hot chicken guarantee. Because I've been to New World, because the New World out by where Vaughan and I live
Starting point is 00:27:31 is quite a small New World. Yeah. Service is a large area too. Yeah, it does. They'll run out of a hot chuck. Well, there you go. If you ever see a hot chuck missing. You must approach a New World staff member
Starting point is 00:27:42 on the same day that you're... He's banging. He's approach a New World staff member on the same day that you're... He's banging. He's delivering a sermon over here. Same day that you're unable to purchase a standard hot cooked chicken, you cannot apply for the voucher retrospectively. You can't go in today and say, hey, yesterday you had hot chickens and I just heard about this thing on the radio. You missed out.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah, right. So this was tested at a New World in Tauranga. Went and they spied on the deli at 6pm. This is the journalist. This is on stuff. At 6pm, there were four hot chickens left. Wait, they were just pesting around a supermarket waiting for the hot chickens to run out.
Starting point is 00:28:16 As they arrived, the man swooped in for a chicken, took one. Yeah, there's three chickens left. Then the deli staff starts scrubbing down the chicken oven. Which means no more are being cooked. It is deli staff starts scrubbing down the chicken oven. Oh, my God. Which means no more are being cooked. It is only 6 p.m.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And this is a guarantee until 8. Okay. So they pest around the supermarket for an hour. They go back. No hot chickens. They go up. Because it's the easiest dinner. We love it.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Oh, my God. They always get a hot chuck. All the time. The bachelor's handbag. It's brilliant. At least a couple of times a week we're eating a hot chuck. Do you ever get those butterfly chickens? Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're nice. Do you ever get those Butterfly chickens? Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:45 Oh yeah they're nice Have you tried the sriracha ones? No Recently The kids over Were just like It's too spicy You eat some oven nugs
Starting point is 00:28:58 Yeah We get a Butterfly chuck We've got a sriracha one now It's the one that comes In the sealed bag and you open it and then you kind of like pour the juice over just before you pop in the oven. And it cooks so evenly because it's butterfly.
Starting point is 00:29:10 It's so good. Back to the hot chook. Those are great. So the hot chook, they go and they say, hey, there's no hot chooks. And they're like, oh, okay. And then at the checkout they get two vouchers for two hot chooks. Because there was two of them. I'm assuming.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Yeah. Yeah, assuming. Yeah. Yeah, okay, right. So then the deal apparently is in North Island. Yep. Not South Island. Because of apparently two separate cooperatives. Foodstuff's North and Foodstuff's South. I thought maybe people in the South Island
Starting point is 00:29:41 just hoovered a hot choc. Yeah, too much. Taking the piss. Cooked chickens are a huge go-to for customers in the South Island just hoovered a hot chook. Yeah, too much. Taking the piss. Yeah. Hot cooked chickens are a huge go-to for customers in the North Island. But not the South Island. Not as much. Really? They don't do the bachelor's handbag.
Starting point is 00:29:53 No, come on. As much. Shut up. Why wouldn't you? You guys don't do the bachelor's handbag. Surely, if there's anyone in the South Island listening, please explain this. Because the hot chook, the bachelor's handbag is a go-to. It's a number one.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Here's why when I said at the start of the break, I was like this is either going to be gone, this is going to be counted out, or it's a brilliant ploy. Are they doubling down on the amount of hot chickens this week? How? They're just cooking more. Because they'd have a formula worked
Starting point is 00:30:21 out for this is how many hot chickens we go through so this is how many we've got to be cooked. So it would average out. And today, because everybody's talking about this, they're going to be cranking more hot chucks. 20% more hot chucks out. But this has been in place for a long time. Yeah, but not everybody knew about it.
Starting point is 00:30:38 So everybody's going to be going in and be like, oh, there's heaps left, but I was already thinking of getting a hot chuck, so of course I'm going to get a hot chuck. I'm not going to say no to a bachelor's handbag. This is the main reason I'm here. I feel like it was under the radar, this kind of guarantee. Yes. So it might have ruined it now that it's out in the public.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Have we ruined it? We might also be adding to the ruining of it. Get yourself a bag of fresh buns, a bottle of coleslaw. That cheap coleslaw too. The cheapest coleslaw there. Oh, you don't get the fancy one. Don't get the fancy coleslaw. It is the wettest. The cheapest coleslaw there. Oh, you don't get the fancy one. Don't get the fancy coleslaw. It is the wettest.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Yeah. It is the crunchiest. It is the tangiest. Get the cheapest coleslaw. And a bag of buns and a hot choc. Yeah, hot choc. It's a way to go. That's a party.
Starting point is 00:31:16 It's sort of just blowing my mind that the South Island don't do as many hot chocs. Someone just text Christchurch here. I love a hot choc on buns with either gravy and cheese. Gravy and cheese. You would get that gravy that comes in the sachet that warms up in like 45 seconds. Rip the corner off
Starting point is 00:31:33 and heat it up in 45 seconds. That's a cheat. You got a fuss free meal on your hand. Literally five minutes and we're eating. I'd pull the bun open and I'd get a finger in there and I'd like carve out a bit of bun
Starting point is 00:31:47 and I'd finger in some chalk and then I'd just pour gravy in and eat it like a cup. That's what I'd do, baby. Good stuff. That's what I'd do. That's good stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Guys, happy Cyber Smart Week. Oh my God, I'm two of the things behind. What do you mean two? That's the company. That's the company ones. Anybody else work for a company and they send it around and you've got to watch a video.
Starting point is 00:32:16 I don't know, where are they filmed? America? America. And it's these people and they're doing dumb things on computers and at the end they ask you a question. Yeah. And you can't like, you can't open it up in a tab and mute it and then go
Starting point is 00:32:28 back to another tab and just come back and have your best guess. You have to sit through the video otherwise they know. It's painful but it teaches you that you shouldn't be opening, you know, bad links. Stuff like that. Shannon at the social media desk, you'd think at the social media desk we would have the most savvy
Starting point is 00:32:43 type. The savviest amongst us. The savviest amongst us working. But you, out of all of us, have been scammed the most, I would say. Oh, yeah. And like, I'm lucky I haven't been scammed more often considering how close I get sometimes. Yeah, to be fair.
Starting point is 00:32:58 She's starting to ask us about some links and stuff. It's good, actually. It's good. Remember when we got an email last week and all of us deleted it because we thought it was a scam, but it wasn't a scam. Yeah, good, actually. It's good. Remember when we got an email last week and all of us deleted it because we thought it was a scam, but it wasn't a scam. Yeah, it was like, click this thing.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Click this thing and enter your info. We were like, gotcha. Because they've done that before. Yeah, they have. The company's done that before. I fell for that one as well. The CEO said he thought I was doing a good job and he wanted to give me a Prezi card.
Starting point is 00:33:21 I said, that's right. That's a scam. Yeah. But it is weird. They did use the CEO as the person that was phishing us. And I was very new and I was like, oh, he's noticed me. He's noticed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:35 He's noticed me. So I thought, being that it is Cyber Smart Week, as a way, I guess, of kind of alerting people to some of the incredible scams that are out there, because some of them are so intense. Some of them are using AI voicing now and AI mimicking celebrities. Like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:53 you're not talking to a celebrity. Let's be honest. You know, people, you hear these stories of people wiring over money to people because they're like, some celebrity's poor and they need a loan. Yeah, but Jason was saying I was collecting for the, you know, the water foundations.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Right. Okay, so how much did you give him? Well, it's a subscription of like $1,000 a day. $1,000 a day, right. Okay. I thought you might have just sent him a couple of nudes, but like do what you will. Yeah, do what you will with these.
Starting point is 00:34:21 For the good of the people. Cybersmart Week, can we take some calls now? And it doesn't need to have been you that fell victim to an outrageous scam but someone you know that fell victim to an outrageous scam. Some of them are more than just your $2 easy post delivery
Starting point is 00:34:37 ones. Can we please make a deal? We're going to make a deal now because this is an ongoing thing in my life. I don't laugh at people who fall for them because that will stop them asking for help next time yes no 100%
Starting point is 00:34:48 I love laughing you know I'll laugh at anything some of the darkest most inappropriate things to be laughed at I will laugh at but I try not to laugh at people who fell for scams
Starting point is 00:34:57 because when they get laughed at and made fun of they won't ask again because they're embarrassed and that's the reason they reckon most people don't report being scammed
Starting point is 00:35:04 I know because they're so embarrassed when the truth comes out we reckon most people don't report being scammed. Really? Because they're so embarrassed when the truth comes out. We only know of a portion of the scams that go on because people are too proud to admit it. Yeah, no, I'm just curious to know the massive scams out there. And then people listening might hear these scams and be like
Starting point is 00:35:18 that sounds similar to what I'm going through. So I wouldn't imagine that people listening are going to admit but maybe you know of this happening to someone in your family, in your life, or a friend. Or maybe it sounded like a scam, but it wasn't a scam, like my uncle from Nigeria. Well, I'm going to be very, very rich soon,
Starting point is 00:35:36 and you all will be the one laughing. I just don't know what I'm going to do with all these diamonds. I can't sell them. What is the outrageous scam that someone you know fell for? 0800 DALS at Amazon. I'm going to give us a call. You can text her as well. 9696.
Starting point is 00:35:50 The more outrageous, the better. Now I've turned my hat backwards. And you might be thinking, why have you got your hat backwards worn? And it's because I'm about to talk to the youth. Okay. Oh my God. Can you hop on the back of your chair? Turn around?
Starting point is 00:36:03 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I'll say, just eat my shorts. Yeah, wow. This is a cool vibe for you. This is uncomfortable. I can't do that. I'm just going to sit on it. You hurt your back.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Both of you go quite tight in the groin. Both of you need to stretch the groin. I need to do more stretching. Hayley was laughing at me the other day at the gym because I can't get down high in a stretching kind of thing. I can't. I mean, stretching. We were trying to scoop the ear up, and high in a stretching thing. I can't. I mean, stretching. We were trying to scoop the ear up and he couldn't scoop enough.
Starting point is 00:36:28 He couldn't do the scoop. Yeah. Couldn't do more of a scoop. Yeah. The reason I've turned my hat backwards and I want to talk to the youth is that it's not just older people getting scammed. We're talking about outrageous scams that people are forming for at Cyber Security Week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Cyber Safety Week. Cyber Smart Week. Cyber Sex Week. Take it back. Take it back to the early 2000s. Oh, God. Cyber sex. I've got my hat back.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Do you kids want to hear about what we used to do in the early 2000s? You know that's an April born. Calm down. Yeah, I know. It's a great week. It is insane, the messages we're getting. Because somebody said, I work for a bank, and one of the scams that we've seen on the rise,
Starting point is 00:37:03 and no one's talking about it, is the rise in scams where young ones and youths with devices are threatened with the release of intimate photos unless they pay money. Now, a lot of the time these photos don't exist. They just get a message and someone may have... Wait, like blackmail? Yeah, blackmail.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Or I'm going to go public with these photos that I've hacked your device. I've got your photos. Now, the photos might not exist. The photos most of the time don't exist, but it's just the threat of it. Yeah. And how embarrassing that would be that they get money and they often know how to log into their parents' bank
Starting point is 00:37:42 and they will go in and do it and then just deal with the consequences later. Yeah. Because they're so scared about it. The photos don't exist, but this person may have taken a photo of themselves at one stage and be like, too much, delete, or whatever. And that insecurity is in there. So it's a scam that is happening to lots of people.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Oh, my God. That is so twisted. You hear in the news as well, sometimes people take their own lives because of this. Yeah, I know. And this happens all the time. If this came out about me, I would hate it. So this is happening in New Zealand heaps.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Wow. It's not talked about enough. And I can kind of understand how as a bank, banks are always talking about scams and security and stuff, and a lot of the times if you get to them quick enough, they can cancel it and get the money back. But how would banks approach that? Yeah, it's kind of, you know when you log into your banking app and
Starting point is 00:38:30 there's always a message and you've got to click it to get rid of it. It's like, you know, if someone says they've got a picture of your penis and then you just click that yes, accept of kind of, you know, I've read this scam notice. Right. You know what I mean? Like they can't just say. Yeah, it would be hard for like a bank
Starting point is 00:38:46 to come out and be like, hey, we're a bank. We make billions of dollars a quarter. Yeah. Interest rates, you know, we could probably afford to drop them,
Starting point is 00:38:53 but we're not going to. But if you are being told that a stranger online has photos of you nude, Yeah. they probably don't, don't give them any money. Like it's a, it's a hard one for a bank to approach
Starting point is 00:39:05 the sexual side of the scam but it's the most powerful and it's not just powerful in the threatening blackmail way but like so many messages in people they know are getting scammed by being romanticised online
Starting point is 00:39:17 and they think they've got this like awesome online relationship with someone that doesn't exist and they start sending them money and they they want it so badly to be true
Starting point is 00:39:24 that they kind of fantasise that it is and then they're sending them money. It's so sad. They want it so badly to be true that they kind of fantasize that it is and then they're out of pocket. You're in brain fog. Or millions. Yeah. With the family farm. Hannah, you were victim of a marketplace scam. Morning guys. First long time listener.
Starting point is 00:39:40 There we go. Fantastic. Welcome. Hey, thanks. Yeah, so I was moving house and I was selling a $10 dehumidifier, right? Yep. Actually, damn, I would have bought that. I love a dehumidifier. I absolutely would have hooked you up, Hayley.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Oh, God. I know, I know. So I got a message from somebody and ordinarily I probably wouldn't have, well, I definitely wouldn't now, but at the time she said to me, this lady messaged me, said she was at work. Could she deposit it and her partner pick it up once he'd finished work? And I'm like, if you prove me a screenshot of payment,
Starting point is 00:40:14 you know, just go for gold. Just want to get rid of it. It's $10. Yes, 10 bucks. I'm moving house. It's stressful anyway, whatever. And then all of a sudden, like within 20 minutes, $500 ends up in my account.
Starting point is 00:40:28 This person, and it seemed like a legitimate, I did my diligence, I looked at the profile first. Of course. And yeah, $500 popped into my bank account and she starts regaling me with messages going, give me my money back, it was an accidental
Starting point is 00:40:43 transfer, this is my groceries for my babies. Oh, my gosh. Can you please immediately go to this petrol station and get the money out? My partner's going to meet you there, and you're going to give him the cash? I'm like, absolutely not. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:40:58 In the meantime, I ring. I can't remember which way I did it, but I either ring the police first or I rang my bank first. Yeah. And they both answered so quickly. God bless them all. And they were like, whatever you do, do not give me any information about where you live
Starting point is 00:41:14 and take any kind of indicators that you're moving house from the front facing part of your property because they'll know the region that you're in and they will come try to find you. I'm like, oh my God. It was so scary and then so in the meantime she's still messaging me i'm saying no just let me refund it and you couldn't see where the i was based in hawks bay at the time and you couldn't see where the deposit came from but it turns out it came from an atm and like somewhere in auckland
Starting point is 00:41:42 i'm like it's so weird. What is going on? And then it turns out, so the police rang me back and they said, your money has come from like somebody's personal account, but it's gone into like somebody else's account and it's been transferred
Starting point is 00:41:56 via this ATM into your account. I'm like, okay. The bank were like, leave the money in your account, but don't spend it. I'm like, well, obviously I'm not going to i just want it out of my account so obviously i'm off to mochi
Starting point is 00:42:12 not going to lie a couple of friends did suggest something similar um and then so long story short it took about four weeks to sort out but it was a gangrelated money laundering scenario where there were hundreds of us having money skip through all of our accounts based on completely unrelated transactions such as Facebook Marketplace. And at one point I got a phone call from the top dude in the fraud office from the bank going, just FYI, you're being investigated for fraud.
Starting point is 00:42:47 And I'm like crying on the phone to him. Wait, you're being investigated? Because the guy, the original guy who had the original bank account for the $500, because he thought he was putting a deposit on a car through Facebook Marketplace, and he had been told by his bank that he had, and so I heard from his bank in Auckland. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I heard from my bank, and then my bank were telling me, just FYI, you're being investigated for fraud. Nice of them. Yeah, nice of them to treat you like that. Just give you the heads up. I felt like such a scumbag. Yeah. I was so upset.
Starting point is 00:43:19 I was crying on the phone. I was like, can you just let me transfer the money into, I don't care where it goes. I just don't want it. In my bank account. So that's how they were laundering the money into, I don't care where it goes. I just don't want it. In my bank account. So that's how they were laundering the money is putting it into your account. You would then withdraw it from the ATM. That's clean money. It's clean money.
Starting point is 00:43:34 And then they take it. So many people were going to the ATMs and being like basically held up and getting the cash out for people and more and like beyond what the original amount was put into their account. It went on for a couple of years. What a wild story. And then they obviously cleared you. I mean, luckily you'd called the cops and the bank straight away.
Starting point is 00:43:53 You'd done the right thing. And they were like so, so, so helpful. Yeah. And they ended up being like a whole department and to the police to investigate it because it was being so widespread and it was just so people fell for it. Again, don't use Marketplace,
Starting point is 00:44:10 you know? Don't use Marketplace. Marketplace is just dodgy. Yeah, so dodgy. Oh my God. What a wild story, Hannah.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Thank you so much. Yeah, I mean, that's something to look out for in Marketplace, isn't it? Definitely.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Don't do it. Oh my God, Hannah. Harrowing story. Jeez. Insane. Oh, my God, Hannah. Harrowing story. Jeez. Insane. Tom Sainsbury joins us. I just realised I hadn't talked for ages just because I was so excited.
Starting point is 00:44:31 I was enthralled. I was like, what's going to happen? This feels like a Sunday night theatre. Yeah, I know. And I was visualising it all happening in my mind. And then I was like, Warren, you haven't said anything for ages and that's your job. And I was like, whoa, back.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I'm back. Jeez Louise. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Tom Sainsbury joins us next just before we do go because this is something that is literally like costing people thousands of dollars and in some cases their lives
Starting point is 00:44:51 so it's a very very serious topic somebody said Netsafe New Zealand has really useful information on sextortion cases and it is a crazy not talked about nearly enough situation that is affecting so many youths.
Starting point is 00:45:07 A lot of the times it's real material that have been coerced out of youths online by people pretending to be girls or boys their age. They get it. Somebody said, this literally happened to my son. He was talking to a girl after a few weeks, coerced him into taking a nude photo and sending it to her. As soon as it hit send, he got a call from what was an overseas call center
Starting point is 00:45:29 from a man saying, you need to send us money now before we send your nude photo to your family and friends. While he was on the phone, he could hear other voices and typing in the background. And people said there are literally international call centers that are doing this. That is insane.
Starting point is 00:45:44 So you need to talk to your kids. Worth a chat to your kids. You need to talk to your children or your young people in your life and get them, because that is something beyond financial, right? That's horrendously damaging and traumatising for young people, so
Starting point is 00:45:59 serious note on the show. As we mentioned, Tom Sainsbury's in studio. Good morning, Tom. Good morning, guys. Listen, I've come with a visual gag. I've got my backpack here because my loop tracks are tramping horror. But of course, this is a wonderful visual medium.
Starting point is 00:46:16 So audiences at home, I'm dressed. Actually, I've got something for you guys. Can I give you a little gift? You've even got hiking boots on, babe. Oh my God, Scroggins. Oh, yes. He thinks ahead, Scroggins. Oh, yes. He thinks ahead,
Starting point is 00:46:27 doesn't he? Isn't he a thoughtful boy? Oh my God, we each get a full bag of Scroggins. That's great, actually. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:46:32 This is great because I'm on a low-carb buzz and this is all just nuts and seeds. I can do this when I go hiking. Oh my God. What does your message say?
Starting point is 00:46:40 To Fletch, I think about you a lot. Tom, XX. Mine says to Hayley, I'm in love with you. Tom, XX. To says to Hayley, I'm in love with you. Tom, XX. To have won you my life worth living, Tom.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Wow. There you go. Thank you, Tom Sainsbury. Pleasure. When did you film this? Loop track. When did you film it? 2020.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Oh, my God. Between lockdowns. But then there's a huge fight scene, which is probably two and a half minutes of the entire hour and a half film that we filmed a year later just because it's like three seconds, three seconds, three seconds, three second shot, action, stunts, everything. So over a whole year, I guess. Wow. So in 2020, during the lockdown, during the breaks and lockdowns when this was filmed was also when New Zealanders couldn't leave the country. And we're like, let's go and
Starting point is 00:47:21 explore our tracks. Your film studio in this case how often do you have to stop because somebody was walking through yeah that's a really good question not often because we would go to private land and so we'd go to arms and we'd go there's like lots of christian camps that weren't being used out god bless god bless yeah because people had fallen out of favor with god or during the COVID lockdowns? People were struggling to relate to how God could do this to us? I think so, maybe that. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:49 So you've written it. Correct. And you're in it. Correct. With Hayden. That's right, Hayden J. Weil. Hayden J. Weil, who you did Dead With. That's right, you got it.
Starting point is 00:47:59 And Tawanda Munima, who I went to drama school with, one of my dearest friends. Yes. Who's incredible. You'll know him from all these massive American productions. Meg. He's in Meg, that shark one. And Ghost in the Shell.
Starting point is 00:48:11 That's right. And so you head into the bush. Yeah, we head into the bush. But look, we sell it like it's deep in the bush, but if you pan the camera 45 degrees, you can see the carpet. Bear Grylls did that for like 18 seasons of that survival show. It doesn't matter. The Hilton was across the road from Bear Grylls.
Starting point is 00:48:30 And then so when you say it's a horror or a psychological thriller, obviously something goes wrong. It is. So it's basically me going for a tramp in the New Zealand bush and my character's on the verge of a nervous breakdown and he starts kind of being paranoid. Is it inspired by anything? Is your constant bubbling energy? It's here all the time
Starting point is 00:48:52 and then yeah so we're alone, there's no kind of reception and the other trampers have just ended up kind of looking after me but you know things get worse and worse and worse and we're kind of isolated and all that kind of stuff and but for me the actual horror is being stuck in small talk with strangers. Like that's the first half hour of the film.
Starting point is 00:49:09 That's the psychological side of it. That's the true horror for me. So where did this come from? Because I feel like people will be like, hang on, Tom Sainsbury. I mean, you've got a podcast with us. What's it called? Sorry. Small Town.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Small Town. Yeah. So where you play all these hilarious characters. You're the Snapchat guy. We love your silly characters and now you're like, hang on, you're playing a man on the verge of a mental breakdown in a horror film. You got it.
Starting point is 00:49:36 I wanted to, like, dramas where my heart lies. I know. Isn't that funny? And I absolutely love it. The comedy, this is how I think it works psychologically. I get auditions and stuff for like really dramatic parts and I go on, but I'm so desperate to get it
Starting point is 00:49:49 that the desperation kind of bleeds through the camera to the producers watching it. And then when I'm kind of casual with the comedy and it's also like, I think I'm just inherently funny. Like sometimes I do walk on stage without any intention and people are laughing.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I know, yeah. You are. I'm a clown. It's not your face. We're not laughing at your face. No, but sometimes. You just have a bubbling humorous. I know, yeah. You are. I'm a clown. It's not your face. We're not laughing at your face. No, but sometimes. You just have a bubbling, humorous energy. Absolutely, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:09 I just have to kind of embrace that. And so it's really, like, loop track is really funny. People are laughing a lot at it. So there is comedy there too. You know, it's me kind of going through the ringer and people are like, this guy's having a nervous breakdown. This is hilarious. Yeah, right, right.
Starting point is 00:50:23 So this was self-funded and crowdfunded i'm still finding crowdfunding and also we won me and the team the boys who made the film we won the 48 hour film competition which is a competition you get 48 hours to make a short film have you guys ever done that before no people have near mental breakdowns yeah so i've always given it a lot you get a whole crate of v and you get through half of it. Yeah. And then the rest of it's just, anyway, yeah, so we won that twice
Starting point is 00:50:47 and so that's a whole lot of prize money to throw into the pool as well and also the New Zealand Film Commission, thank you very much, gave us finishing funds which helps with the editing and stuff like that. So what are your dreams for it?
Starting point is 00:50:55 Because it opens on Thursday, you can go and see it. Our producer, Karween, saw it last night, loved it, rave reviews, raving lunatic.
Starting point is 00:51:02 When you went to LA at a film festival as well? Yeah, so we've just been, we just screened it over in LA at something called Screenfest, which is a horror predominantly, well, it's a solely horror film festival. And because we'd screened it here in New Zealand
Starting point is 00:51:14 at the film festival here and everyone was kind of like very, you know, gracious and they were very kind of quiet and well behaved as an audience member. But in America, like, you know, they're screaming, they're carrying on, they're talking, checking their phones, they're kind of like leaving carrying on, they're talking, checking their phones. They're kind of like leaving for popcorn halfway through the movie
Starting point is 00:51:27 and coming back in. Wait, that's the best bit. You've missed a really important part of the storyline. None of it's going to make sense now. Yeah, but they still kind of got something out of it. And the comedy really worked. But using the word bush does not translate. Nor does the word track.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Oh, right. What do they say? What is loop track? They say trail. Oh, yeah, the trail. The woods. The woods What is loop track? They say trail. Oh, yeah, the trail. The woods. The woods.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Yeah. The woods or forest. New Zealand woods or forest, yeah. So what are you going to call the film over there then? I know, it's a good question. Loopy Trail. Loopy Trail and the forest. A roundabout track.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Yeah, a roundabout trail. God, Americans. Just call it Bushlet. Freak them out. Yeah, exactly. Honestly, Tom, what can't you do? Sing. Well, now we want to hear it. So quickly.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Give us a little bit of the New Zealand national anthem. I can't. Do you know what? Oh, my God, we made a panic. Do you know what I'm really interested in? I'm going to bush. I can't handle this pressure. I would watch a TV show that explored the origins of this man
Starting point is 00:52:23 that we're looking in front of us because I need to know I need to see your parents and the family and I need to because in my mind because you grew up in Matamata
Starting point is 00:52:31 and I was in Morrinsville I picture what your family and your home and everything are like and I'd like to see if it marries up
Starting point is 00:52:40 yeah I'd love a doctor on Tom Sacks he's got his nose isn't he at least it's strange just a 12 minute I reckon A short film
Starting point is 00:52:47 Oh yeah short doc Mini doc Maybe down to a one minute TikTok Yeah there you go Well go and support Tom's film Loop Track It's out on Thursday
Starting point is 00:52:56 Yeah and we just support everything you do You're amazing You know I love you And you love me according to this packet of scroggins Thank you very very good boy
Starting point is 00:53:04 Pleasure. Yes, this is what I want. Happy Halloween. The teen witch in me is absolutely living for this day. I love Halloween. I used to head to the graveyards and do all sorts of spells. I'm wearing my Goosebumps top today. I love Halloween. Can I say the massive difference in heading to a graveyard to do spells
Starting point is 00:53:31 and wearing a Goosebumps top? I've come a long way. You have, yeah. It's like saying, man, I love fires. Just last night I sat in front of one to keep myself warm and when I was a teenager I used to burn down schools. Yeah. Wildly downscale. Well do you know
Starting point is 00:53:48 it's 20 years since I really considered myself a goth and a witch. I was 13, 14 years old and I'm now 34. Were your parents just like oh my god. Do you know what my parents rolled with it. It was kind of cool. Because if they had fought it, it would have got worse. I would have been
Starting point is 00:54:04 a little bee and I just they kind of let me it would have got worse. I would have been a little bee. And they kind of let me dress how I wanted to. When I was like 11 and 12, me and my best friend went to witch school at Arcadia in the hut. And we learned to do things. It was crazy that they let us do it. People were off to basketball camp and school holiday programs. We went to witch school.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Anyway, I shared a while ago, and we had some calls, maybe last year, of the time that I saw a ghost when I was at their distinction in Palmerston North. I'm sure they love you going on air saying, you saw a ghost at their hotel. Yeah, well, when I went back to the distinction, remember I told them, and they were like, shush. But I had gone to bed.
Starting point is 00:54:41 And then you immediately tested positive for COVID. I know. Yeah, well, the whole thing, driving my ass home. Anyway, I was staying there, not with you guys, but with the Seven Days crew, and I woke up in the middle of the night, and I looked to my left, and there was a dribbling, drooling, kind of weepy old man
Starting point is 00:54:59 who was in an oversized grey pinstripe suit. This is absolutely no way to talk about Jeremy Corbett, by the way. He is a national treasure and a respected broadcaster. Corby, you're married! A dribbly old man in a grey suit. It was not him. He was about in his 80s and I looked at him and then I sort of knew that it was a ghost and not a real person
Starting point is 00:55:20 and I was in no danger. And I'd never seen a ghost in my life. And I remember waking up, I hid under the blankets because I was like, holy crap, this is actually happening. And then when I woke up in the morning, I was like, wow, I saw a ghost. I just feel like you need to lay off. I hadn't been drinking. I feel like you need to lay off the Prosecco sometimes.
Starting point is 00:55:37 I hadn't been drinking, thank you. Really? Did you need to crack a window? No, it was fine. I saw a ghost. And when I shared this last time on radio, we got incredible stories of when people had seen ghosts. So this is your annual share a ghost story time, is it? It's my annual.
Starting point is 00:55:52 We'll do it every Halloween, actually. Oh, will we? I'm marking the occasion. You're making it a thing, are you? Hayley's Halloween horrors. I want to know when you saw a ghost, your spooky ghost stories for this Halloween. Don't expect any buy-in from me.
Starting point is 00:56:06 The boys will do their best not to scoff. When I was little, can I read one? When I was little, my grandfather died and I would tell my parents that I could see his ghost. Looking back now, I realise I was just a child going through the stages of grief. However, my dad thought I had a psychic ability and would take me to cemeteries and make me
Starting point is 00:56:21 lay down and talk to dead people and find ghosts. Very strange. Very strange, Dad. Very strange. What did Dad want from the ghosts? Location of treasure? Yeah, maybe. Who murdered them? I don't know. We are sharing ghost stories.
Starting point is 00:56:38 The real life encounters with the afterlife. There are so many stories coming in. These are freaky deaky, man. I'm loving it. I've seen a ghost once in my life, even though I was a sceptic. I didn't really believe in the afterlife at all,
Starting point is 00:56:52 but you explain that. The old man, dribbling, drooling, breathing. Drinking. I think we did explain that. No, it wasn't drinking. It was a rare occasion upon which I was not drunk. Tom, have you seen a ghost? Good morning, Tom.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Oh, hello. Hi. Hi, Tom. How are you? I'm all right. Are you freaked? You're a bit freaked. When did you see a ghost, Tom?
Starting point is 00:57:17 When I was about seven, eight. Okay. I woke up and there was a mirror on my wall and I seen my dead uncle in the mirror. Oh my God. It was like he was standing on the side of my bed, looking into the mirror, but he wasn't on the side of my bed.
Starting point is 00:57:37 How long had he been dead? Oh, he was dead before I was born. Right. Did you say anything to him? Did you recognize him from him? And you just recognised him from photos? No, no. I was just like, I went to mum and said, there's a guy looking, because he looks exactly like me.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Yeah. You sure it wasn't your reflection, Han? Might have been yours. No. It was a mirror, Tom. Yeah, that's sort of how they work. But it was an adult version of Tom. I was an adult Tom.
Starting point is 00:58:03 That's my taking from this. Yeah, yeah, sort of how they work. But was he an adult version of Tom? I was an adult Tom. That's my take from this. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. But I was laying in bed, so it could not be my reflection. So what did Mum say when you told her? She's like, well, you know you've got a dead uncle that looks like you, eh? I said, what? She showed me a picture and I was like, yeah, that's what it looked like. That's him.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Do you know once, I was asleep as a kid and I looked in the mirror and it was Batman. That's cool. Crazy, I still have a memory of that. It was a nightmare. It sounds like a dream though, doesn't it? It was a dream. That was a dream. Batman wasn't in my room. We're not sharing stories of superheroes, it's ghosts. Let's go to Dee. Have you seen a ghost, Dee?
Starting point is 00:58:40 Yeah, so back in the early 2000s I used to drive to busses and our trip used to take us down the South Island west coast. Okay. And happened to be staying in Westport one night. And I'd stayed in this house like multiple times before without any issues. And this one night, it was bucketing with rain as it does on the west coast. And there was another driver in the house because it was summer and so it gets really busy and there's two buses running.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Yeah. And we watched the rugby at home because it was too weak to go to the pub. Had a couple of beers, literally two beers because I was driving a busload of people the next day. And went to bed and it was the first time I'd slept in this specific room of the house. Anyway, fast asleep, no issues. Wake up and I felt really cold.
Starting point is 00:59:20 And the room just kept getting colder. Next thing, I feel something on me and he's like, Sam, Sam, Sam, Sam, Sam. That's not you. You're like, you've got the wrong person. I'm Dee. No, I was so, the room was freezing. Like, I've never felt anything like it.
Starting point is 00:59:35 And all I could say on was, please go away. I've got to drive a busload of people in the morning. Please. Please. And the guy's just like, oh, my God, oh, my God, you're not Sam. You're not Sam. Oh, shit, I'm so sorry. Please. I'm so sorry for, oh my God, oh my God, you're not Sam, you're not Sam. Oh shit, I'm so sorry. Please.
Starting point is 00:59:46 I'm so sorry for driving your bus. Yeah, I know. The room kind of warmed up again and it went away and I was so freaked out. I nearly went and got in bed with the other driver, which, ooh,
Starting point is 00:59:55 you just wouldn't want to do. Oh, you just simply wouldn't. Yeah. It was terrific. I never ever slept a wink in that house again. I was always so tired. I hated staying in Westport.
Starting point is 01:00:03 It was horrific. Never seen a ghost again. Good to know that ghosts are reasonable and you can, you know, negotiate with them. It's all the mining they did there. The coal, the gold, everything down there.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Miners love hanging around after they die, don't they? Old prospects and stuff. Because I got unfinished business with the land. Georgia, when did you see a ghost? Oh, it was years ago.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I was working as a gardener when I lived in Auckland. And I was working by myself, very open area. And then I suddenly had this feeling I was being watched. So I sort of looked up and I could see this. It wasn't like a defined outline of a person, but it was like a sort of greyish area. And then I knew my natural father died when I was a baby.
Starting point is 01:00:43 And I sort of just knew that's who it was. And after about five seconds, the feeling just disappeared, sort of up. And then, yeah, I knew it was him and that he was coming to see that I was all right, and it's the only time it's ever happened. So I've never been a ghost believer. No, no. There was nothing else there.
Starting point is 01:01:01 It was just an open grass area. So I just knew it was him coming to check on me. He left and that was it. Why do you think he was checking on the herbs? Why do you think he chose that specific time? I don't know. Like I was just literally by myself working, not thinking about anything in particular.
Starting point is 01:01:17 So it could have just been, I don't know, it must have been an opportune moment. I wasn't, yeah, like focused. What if ghosts are time travellers? Because we always say aliens are time travellers, but no one's ever pointing the fingers at ghosts for being time travellers. They have invisibility cloaks.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Yeah. I was living quite a settled time in my life and I had had some unsettled time, but it was very strange. I just knew that's who it was, that's what the purpose was. And he was gone. I think he was satisfied with obviously what it was up to.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Well, at least he wasn't turning up when you have some alone time in the bedroom with your iPad. Oh my God. What are you putting me? I don't want to, Dad. I don't need you checking up on. I'm just going to go to sleep. Thank you, Jessica. You've seen a ghost. I have. It was one of many experiences.
Starting point is 01:02:06 I was 10 years old, and we were living up in Auckland, and it was quite late at night. We'd been renovating the house, so a lot of disturbance in the house and stuff. And I was just lying in bed and kind of looking down at my feet opposite the window, and I got this really overwhelming feeling of like I was locked in position. I was paralyzed. Oh my God. I couldn't move my eyes. I couldn't move anything and it was just such the
Starting point is 01:02:32 oddest feeling. It's actually really hard to put into words. Do you know this happened to my mum? She said it felt like the devil was sitting on her chest. I've had it. I had it once when I was a kid too. I had it at my Catholic nan's house and she thought something spiritual was going on. And then all of a sudden this this Victorian-era, like, really beautifully dressed woman just appeared to the right-hand side of the end of my bed,
Starting point is 01:02:53 walked across, looked at me, and then kept walking and disappeared again. They're overrepresented in the ghost market, by the way, Victorian women. It was a rough era. Well, they didn't have many rights. What about some 1980s dudes? Walking with like a... Like a surfer dude? No, with like a mullet and like a black singlet on
Starting point is 01:03:11 and he's carrying a swapper crate and he's walking through your house. Hey. And he's like, um, shagga, huh? Where's shagga, mate? I'm here for shagga. Jessica. What a scary ghost. Thank you for your call.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Lots of messages. Are you happy with these responses? No, I want some messages in place. I had a time in my 20s where I would see someone standing at the foot
Starting point is 01:03:29 of my bed nightly. I believed I was psychic. After watching the movie Deer Hunter one night, I woke up and there were three Viet Congs sitting beside me and I was like,
Starting point is 01:03:36 right, so I'm just having really lucid, vivid dreams about things I can't stop thinking about. Yeah. Someone said, our home was haunted. We'd often hear babies crying when there were none. Yeah, I don't stop thinking about it. Yeah. Someone said, our home was haunted. We'd often hear babies crying when there were none.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Yeah, I'm not going to do that. Oh my God, my Nana's house. I had a dream of a little Maori girl crying on the stairs over a broken necklace. I'd gone to sleep in the downstairs room. I woke up in the morning upstairs with a broken necklace on the pillow next to me. My Nana's house used to be an orphanage.
Starting point is 01:04:03 And years later, we found out about kids that were killed there. At the orphanage, yeah. We're not going back, Mr. Fletcher. Kids were killed in this place. It's over, Mr. Fletcher. Mr. Fletcher. Mr. Fletcher, we'll come see your house in your spare room.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Back to the orphanage. Regardless of what's going on there, it can't be as bad as death. There are so many ghost stories in here. I think people need to crack a window more. I'll say it. Shut up. Crack a window. Don't be grumpy, Mr Fletcher.
Starting point is 01:04:32 And no cheese after five. Play. ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. It's Friends Fact of the Day themed week. Yeah. Tributes are pouring in still. Salma Hayek just put a photo on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:05:05 There's been a word from a rep for Lisa Kudrow, but they haven't directly said anything. No. Which I feel like is a sign of real grief. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Not poo-pooing people that publicly declare it, but it's like, what do you say?
Starting point is 01:05:20 Yeah. When your best friends die. They're taking some time to actually mourn. Be in it. Rather than put out a public word. Well, Jess has been in touch. Okay. Jess knows a lot about Friends, as it turns out.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Oh, really? Yeah. I believe she may have worked for TVNZ because remember how I said that couch was a poor knockoff? Yeah. She said the TVNZ Friends couch was sent to us by Warners for the Friends anniversary a few years ago. Oh, yeah. I believe they sent them to lots of networks that played Friends.
Starting point is 01:05:51 It came with a whole setup, rug, coffee table, mugs, et cetera. It's meant to be a replica, but any fan, such as yourself, knows that it's not exactly the same. No. I said, I knew it, but close enough. And she said she went on the Warners tour in LA where they went around. My mum and dad did that before because we went to LA with my family earlier in the year. And mum and dad did that before we got there.
Starting point is 01:06:12 They didn't like it. Because it was filmed in LA, wasn't it? But they're not really Friends fans. They didn't like it. Mum's like, bloody hell. They wanted us to look at everything that anyone on Harry Potter ever wore. Yeah. Your father and I wish we could have done it at our own pace.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Which sums up my mum beautifully. She just wants to be able to do things at her own speed. A lot of the times that's breakneck. Yes. And sometimes that's extreme. If it's a garden centre or a garden, it's extremely slow. She wants to smell every Ulster mirror. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:41 She wants to ask questions about roses. But if it's something like that, she's just. She'll get through a museum in five minutes. She'll get through it. Seen it, seen it, seen it. This is where today's fact of the day comes from, and thank you to Jess who sent this in. She said,
Starting point is 01:06:54 did you know the coffee machine in the Central Perk Cafe on Friends is the same as the coffee, is exactly the same machine that was used in Uncle Jesse's Smash Club on Full House. Oh, right. Because both shows were filmed on the same soundstage. Oh, it's the exact same. It is the machine.
Starting point is 01:07:10 It is the machine. Because when they needed it for friends, it had been used. And this is the same story with the couch. It was just there. In storage. And they were just needing to chuck this together for the show. So they just grabbed the coffee machine and put it in there. So then I was like, what else can we find out about the studio that it was
Starting point is 01:07:26 filmed on? What stage it was filmed on? Friends, the first season of Friends was filmed on exactly the same stage as Everyone Loves Raymond Oh which Friends was like this is great we need a bigger stage and then Everyone Loves Raymond started
Starting point is 01:07:42 the next year and then they moved to stage 24 where they were there for the rest of their time from 1995 to 2004 in Los Angeles even though it was set in New York and that was the stage that Full House had been using up until they
Starting point is 01:07:57 needed to use it and it's the stage that Fuller House used, the reboot after they used it again at the end of it all. So that's why apparently there's a few other things that were used in Friends that was also from Full House as well. I always feel lied to when I find out a show isn't where it's meant to be. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:08:15 Like the same with CSI Las Vegas. It was all in LA and they green screened everything. Yeah, that's bad. I was like, how dare you? That's hard, man. Actually, it's a betrayal. It really is. Can I just say, with everything that's happening in the world,, how dare you? That's hard, man. Actually, it's a betrayal. It really is. With everything that's happening in the world,
Starting point is 01:08:27 I feel the most sorry for you. Thank you. Yeah, actually, should we accept some thoughts and prayers, Hon? If we could. If anybody's got a couple. I know everybody's pretty drained on T's and P's at the moment. Yeah, T's and P's.
Starting point is 01:08:36 But Vletch is upset that a TV show lied to him about their film location. He said it's the most upsetting thing for him. Just saying. Vegas is very big. You can film it all there. Yeah. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:08:47 I'm sorry. Are you all good? Do you want to cuddle? Are you all right? I'm okay. I'm okay. Or just thoughts and prayers. I'll get through.
Starting point is 01:08:52 I'll get through. I'm thinking of you and I'm praying for you. 9696, thoughts and prayers. Thoughts and prayers. I don't like who's upset. Who recently found out that CSI lost Vegas, which to me, we didn't need it. We didn't need it. We didn't need it.
Starting point is 01:09:04 To me, CSI was enough. They could have travelled. CSI, what is it? CSI New York? Miami? Where was the original one? Los Angeles? That was it.
Starting point is 01:09:14 No, the original was Las Vegas. Yeah. It was filmed in LA. I can kind of see why you were disappointed then. Yes, thank you. It was their first outing. Thank you. Do you want T's and P's?
Starting point is 01:09:24 No, no, I don't want T's and P's. How upset are you? I'm not upset enough for T's and P's? No, I don't want T's and P's. How upset are you? I'm not upset enough for T's and P's. Okay, because I've got plenty to go around. I would just concentrate them on Fletch. He's heartbroken. I never watched a single episode of CSI or SVU or...
Starting point is 01:09:36 I don't even know what you're saying. I'm sending my T and P's for your CSI. How upset you are. Thank you. So today's back to the day. Thanks to Jess, who said, for the real train spotters, you will notice that the coffee machine in Central Perk is exactly the same coffee machine from Uncle Jesse's Smash Club on Full House.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Just before we jingle it out of here, someone texted saying, I saw Friends being filmed in the year 2000, two of the Bruce Willis episodes. They were in the studio audience. How cool is that? And they said, sorry, Fletch, definitely in LA. 2000, two of the Bruce Willis episodes. They were in the studio audience. How cool is that? And they said, sorry, Fletch, definitely in LA. Yeah, definitely in LA. How cool would that have been?
Starting point is 01:10:13 Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Someone wants to know if you're ready to talk about the fact that Lord of the Rings wasn't filmed in Mordor or the Middle Earth. Now you're just being bloody stupid. Being facetious. Tease and peace. Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Play ZM. The bird test we were just saying is
Starting point is 01:10:47 sort of a test you can use to see if your relationship is going to last. Reading this I feel like you can do this to friends and new partners This could work in like our situation couldn't it? As work colleagues Alyssa Cardi Alyssa
Starting point is 01:11:03 Cardi B Okay, explains it well on tiktok and if you don't know what the bird test is it's like a test to gauge like whether or not a relationship will be successful if you say something that could be deemed like insignificant and your partner responds with like genuine curiosity like that's a really good sign that your relationship will last a long time but if they like blow you off they don't acknowledge you that's a really good sign that your relationship will last a long time. But if they blow you off, they don't acknowledge you, that's a really bad sign. So bird being like, there's a bird. So her example was she was sitting in a cafe with her friend
Starting point is 01:11:32 and she looked out the window and she was like, holy shit, there's a woodpecker. And her friend was like, wait, where? Oh my god, there's a woodpecker. And then they spent the next 10 minutes googling facts about woodpeckers. I love a woodpecker. They're incredible. They're so odd. It would be fun to see a woodpecker. If you saw one here, it'd be like, how'd you get here? That's weird.
Starting point is 01:11:47 But I used to do this at marching because there was these kingfishers that used to always come in. You'd be like, oh my God, look, kingfisher. And everyone would be like, what? Where? And that is a sign that people are like, I'm immediately ready to get on board with what you're interested in. Whereas if I was like, oh my God, look, there's a woodpecker. And you were like, awesome. There's birds everywhere.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Or just ignored you. Or just ignored you. Or just ignored her. It's a sign that you're not ready to kind of like get into what I'm into. My marriage is built on selective hearing and ignoring each other. Like that's when we're driving, I'll be like, oh, look at that shed. Shada doesn't even look up. She's like, oh, no, fine. She's like, oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:20 I mean, after nearly 13 years married to this, you'd be sick of the shed shit chat, wouldn't you? Far out, yes. Oh, nearly swore, didn't I? Nearly said a bad word, didn't I? And then I'm the same with her. She's like, oh, look at this. What do you think of this piece of art for the hallway?
Starting point is 01:12:37 And I'm just like, how much does that cost? You don't need a piece of art for the hallway. Oh, my God, yeah, that's it. She wants art for the hallway. Babe, babe, look at this. Do you like this? How much does that cost? How much does that? I'd probably get some new plates before I got art for the hallway. Oh my God, yeah, that's it. She wants art for the hallway. Babe, babe, look at this. Look, do you like this? How much did that cost? How much was that?
Starting point is 01:12:45 I'd probably get some new plates before I got art for the hallway. Well, you're getting in trouble soon, please. Eating off art. You want to eat off art. So she didn't come up with this. The Daily Dot,
Starting point is 01:12:56 which I'm reading, reached out to her for comment, but she's not the first person to make it. The bird test or birds for connection was introduced by the Gottman Institute.
Starting point is 01:13:05 And they say birds can be small or big, verbal or nonverbal, requests to connect. They might take the form of expression, question or physical outreach. They can be funny, serious or sexual in nature. And it's about their immediate response to what you're doing. Now, I did this yesterday. Aaron, should I say this? I don't know. I was like, Aaron, Aaron, come here.
Starting point is 01:13:25 He was like, what? I was like, no, come here quickly. And he came in, I just said, my boobie's out. No, that's always a good time. Yeah, and I just, I like to see how tickled he'll be by the time. And was he tickled? Yeah, he goes, boobies. Yeah, he was stoked.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Yeah. But if they're not birds. Yeah, if you'd been like, Aaron, Aaron, come here. And he came all the way there and you're like, oh my God, look at that bird on our backyard. He'd be like, show me your, come here. And he came all the way there and you're like, oh my God, look at that bird on our backyard. He'd be like, show me your boobies. And then I'm interested. Unless it's a red-breasted boobie, I'm not interested.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Yeah. I charged inside. A caca flew over our house. A caca. You know, the bird, the brown bird. A caca. Caca. K-A-C-A.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Caca means poo. You don't know what that, yeah. Well, that's what happened because I ran and I was like, oh my God, a kaka just flew over our house because they'd been returning to the bush. Oh my God, they're stunning. And they were like endangered
Starting point is 01:14:10 and they were like sprinting back and I was really excited and I walked in and I was like, a kaka just flew over our house. Everybody was on screens and the only response I got from August and she went, a flying poo.
Starting point is 01:14:23 And that was it. That's a good response. And your other daughter And your wife both Ignored you Ignored me Flat out ignored me And it's probably just Because August hasn't been
Starting point is 01:14:30 Around as long as them She's not that sick of you yet She might be like Two more years She's out Oh you're failing The bird test In your own home
Starting point is 01:14:38 With every woman In my life Oh hon We've all been invited To a Halloween party this weekend. Manny McLean's going and he told us yesterday his
Starting point is 01:14:51 Halloween costume for him and his husband. So it's a duo costume? Yeah, they're doing a duo costume. Oh, there's so much pressure. I don't like dressing up. I do. I do a lot. Well, you love the attention. Yeah, I love it. I want to adopt a character.
Starting point is 01:15:07 I want to really transform myself. And I had it in my head. I was like, I really want Aaron to do something interesting with his hair. Now, part of me was like, I want to straighten it and have him go as Jesus. Then I was like, he's from a Catholic family. We might get in trouble. Yeah, okay. No.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Imitation is the highest form of flattery. But anyone by me is the Virgin Mary. But isn't that what Halloween is all about? Inappropriate costumes and people getting cancelled. Yeah. I saw a thread this morning. You know how Instagram's always like, you're not on threads,
Starting point is 01:15:38 but here's a couple of threads from people you follow, people you might like. And I'm like, get out of my feed. It was like, right now there is a white person planning their costume for tonight that will have them internally cancelled. Yeah, yeah, get out of my feed. It was like, right now there is a white person planning their costume for tonight that will have them internally cancelled. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. And then it just hit me what Aaron
Starting point is 01:15:52 should go as. Big curly hair. Yeah. Bob Ross. Oh, the painting guy from Netflix. Bob Ross had a full fro. Yeah, when Aaron cleans and dries his hair and then we air dry it and brush it, it froze.
Starting point is 01:16:07 You're going to have a little spray of orange? What's orange? Because there's bald brushes here. It was like a light brown. Or was it light brown? No, it was light brown. Aaron's is kind of gingy light brown at the moment. I was like, this is perfect.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Denim shirt, open. Easel. Tucked in jeans. The little painter's tray with all the little colours. Paintbrush. Oh my God. He's going to look great. I know. But then I was like, there's not a partner to, the little painter's tray with all the little colours, paintbrush. Oh, my God. He's going to look great.
Starting point is 01:16:28 I know, but then I was like, there's not a partner to, I could go as an easel. Dude, that would look great. Just stand nude with my legs open like that. Just have a canvas. Oh, my God, yes. I just hold a canvas like that and just stand with my, in a nude bodysuit. That's a brilliant idea.
Starting point is 01:16:40 The easy to ditch costumes rule because, like, you're holding the canvas and then once you've had your photos, you're like, put that down. Now I'm just in a Lycra bodysuit and I'm here to play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's when you commit to a costume
Starting point is 01:16:50 that's hard to drink through. I know when you're in a box or something cumbersome or when you need to take a pee and you're like, yep. Because you and Sade are doing a couple's,
Starting point is 01:17:00 a couple's costume. Yep. You won't tell us what it is. Did I not tell you? Did you? Oh, yes, you is. Did I not tell you? Did you? Oh, yes, you did. I thought I told you. Is Matty McLean's one going to be good?
Starting point is 01:17:10 Yeah, it's really good. Oh, is he going to win? Yeah. Is there a competition? Damn it. Well, you know what they're all like. The gays are very competitive. Especially Matty McLean.
Starting point is 01:17:20 He doesn't like to lose. I just need to find a brown bodysuit and I'm the easel. This is fantastic. Although, Carwain is saying you should go as a paintbrush. Oh, yeah. Thank you for calling me skinny. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Just get my hair up and a little wick like that. Yes, and then you're the paintbrush. And then just a little brown bodysuit. Yeah, perfect. Oh, my God. I'm the paintbrush. It's a good idea. What are you going to do,
Starting point is 01:17:45 Fletch? I don't know. You don't know. Go to like the cost, you like look sharp and just buy something. I've seen a few people doing a fireman.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Why don't you just do something to get these abs out? They're not around forever, Hob. Actually, not a bad idea. You think those are
Starting point is 01:18:00 going to last the summer holidays, Hob? They're not. You better get them out. I think you better get them out. Most things are going to see an Aperol spritz coming and then just that year we're out. They're just going to flab up holidays, huh? They're not. You better get them out. I think you better get them out. Most things are going to send Aperol spritz coming and then just be like, we're out.
Starting point is 01:18:08 They're just going to flab up. Yeah, see you later, mate. What are you going to do? Is it a secret? I don't know if it's a secret. Yeah, because it might be. And then if I say, Shade's going to be all angry at me.
Starting point is 01:18:18 No, you blew it. Oh, yeah. We've got to do a different one. It's good. I don't like this much pressure on it, though. You're right. There's a lot of pressure on it. You could go as weird.
Starting point is 01:18:26 You could go as like that Barbie that Kate McKinnon played. Oh, you could go as weird Barbie. She's not flexible enough. Full pink. I'm not flexible enough. You could go as Ellen. Yes. The Barbie.
Starting point is 01:18:38 I thought you meant Ellen DeGeneres. I was like, no, she's cancelled on. Oh, I'm busting for a wheeze after that podcast. I'll tell you. It's a podcast. You are allowed to listen to it while you're wheeze. There's no rules on when and where you're allowed to listen to a podcast. It just says here I'm busting for a wheeze.
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