ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 3rd February 2025

Episode Date: February 2, 2025

Why some couples look like siblings? Top 6 signs the Dunedin hospital is the cadbury factory What tattoos did you get removed? Coke vs no sugar coke argument SLP - Are you the dominant one in your relationship? What are you not in the demo for but love? Animates pawtition Grammys If humans had wings What did your partner ruin recently? Fact of the Day John Aiken MAFS IV Hayley scamSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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From the ZM Podcast Network, this is Flesh, Fawn and Hayley's Big Pod. Brought to you by Chemist Warehouse, the biggest brands at the lowest prices. Play ZM's Fleshch, Vaughan and Hayley. Thank you Bryn, good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. A short week for most people. A weird kind of day off on Thursday week. Stunted week.

Well if you follow those, because every year it's like how to get 50 days off with 13 days annual leave or whatever it is. Yeah, this is one of those times. This is one of them that most people take Friday. We're not. So if you are working on Friday, we'll be here. And get a mega four-day weekend. Yeah, fatty. I kind of like a little break in the middle and then we'll come back and Friday will feel fun.

A little bonus day. Well, the weather forecast for Waitangi around the country looking amazing. I know. It feels like summer is finally here. I did change colour over the weekend, though. Like a little bit too much, maybe. A bit too much sun for you.

Little bit. Little bit. The top six is on the way. The announcement of the low form. Oh, listen to that. I know, it's good. Watch this. Why aren't you getting,

like, you can't blame me for this sickness. No, look, I've recovered completely. This is chapter two. We've got multiple sicknesses in the house. Can I? Carwen, have you got any of our special spicy books lying around? We might be able to get a chapter read. I could do a little read.

I don't know. I could do a little read. Okay, I might get you an excerpt. I don't know if that's... I'm not just a person. Yeah, actually, I don't know if I... It sort of feels like a good idea now. Just don't look at me.

Just don't look at me. Don't you look at me. The top six coming up. The top six signs that the new Dunedin Hospital, it's been announced it's going to be built on the grounds of the old Cadbury factory. I love the top six signs the new Dunedin Hospital is just the Cadbury factory in disguise.

Yum. Dr. Yum. Dr. No. Imagine the IVs. Don't ruin his top six. I still don't have a number one. Now I need a new number five. Next on the show, let's discuss why sometimes it's hard to tell if a couple are dating or

if they're siblings. I was wondering this at the gym the other day. I was like, are they together or are they brother and sister? Well, there's actually science behind it. Why this sort of keeps on happening. Play ZM's Fleshborn and Hayley. Was it a Facebook page? Siblings or dating?

Instagram account. Instagram account. Is it still a thing? I think so. I saw it not so long ago. Do you follow it? Yeah. Okay,? Instagram account. Is that still a thing? I think so. I saw it not so long ago. Do you follow it? Yeah. Okay, I haven't. Didn't you upload, didn't you submit someone once for that? I might think of someone else. Siblings or dating, here it is. I could check my message history with them.

Jeep, it's some of them. Oh, okay, they look like brother and sister. Literally just went in. 100. Siblings or dating? 100. Dating! What? Okay, this is great.

Today, if you want to follow something on Instagram, follow siblings or dating. I feel like I've replied to them once saying, oh, no, no, no, no. Those people are definitely siblings. Please provide DNA evidence that they're not twins separated at birth. Oh, my God. I've found another one. It's a great Instagram page.

Siblings dating. Okay, great. Siblings are dating. So it's a massive thing, right? It's like been around for ages when you see a couple and you can't figure it out and they look really similar and then you see them like kiss or hold hands

or be like physically close. Because you said that you saw someone at the gym the other day. I couldn't work out if they were siblings or dating. What was their body language? Their body language was like dating. But I was like, maybe they're just like one of those close brothers. I don't know. I couldn't work it out.

Well, you know, I call my brother babe. Yeah. And kiss him on the lips. And we hug. That's a conversation for a whole nother time. When I list it, I understand that that's too close, but we don't look, we barely look like

siblings. If you're dating someone and they look like you and you constantly get confused for brother and sister, I'm sorry, but that's not good. I know you're going to say that it's a turn off, but apparently it's not. There's been so many psychological studies on this. They call it a psychological phenomena because it's such a common

thing. And there's a number of reasons why. And it's the opposite of what you think, which is like, if I saw someone that looked like my brother or looked a bit like me, that they could be my brother, I'd be really turned off. But apparently in our brains, it's actually a form of implicit egotism that we are subconsciously attracted to people that have features similar to our own. Really? Yeah. Okay.

So it's like, yeah, it's almost egotistical to be like, I find you attractive. Because you remind me of me. Is it a bit why some women will date men or marry men that look like their father? So here's the number one, one, two, three, four reasons.

In-group bias, preference for others within the same racial or age group. I don't understand. I know you don't. You don't know. You're like a mouthing pot. But globally around the world a lot of white people

just only go for white people a lot of black people only go for black people I don't understand it will lead weird not only to do you understand as well

is it not it's crazy yeah it also leads if you know you're going to have children with these people everybody knows

a little bit of this a a little bit of that. I know. Beautiful babies. Delicious. Beautiful babies. Yeah. So in-group bias, that we're mostly attracted to the people of the same racial age group.

Implicit egotism, like we like people that have similar features to our own. Familiarity effect, a preference for familiar features. Nothing's more familiar than our own face. Yeah. And then the other one is sexual imprinting, which is an attraction to partners who resemble one's parents. Ew.

Which is, I know, I know, it's so gross to say out loud, but that is that thing where a lot of people end up being like, oh my God, I ended up with someone who's very much like my dad. Ew. I haven't.

My dad's very different. But, you know, we hear about this. I can see when you end up with someone who has personality traits the same as your parents. Yes. You might be like, oh, I can admire in them what I admire about my parents. But to look at them and be like, you look like my mum. Yeah.

I know. But this is all like subconscious. Yeah, you don't. And then, yeah. It's like a draw, like an animalistic drawer. Not that we're going around being like, I've got to find me a Craig Sprout 10 out of 10. So crazy.

So yeah, it's more than just sort of this social media phenomenon. It's in the brain. It's actually a thing. It's a thing. Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughn and Hayley. From the trip to the kitchen at Vending Machine, this is The Top Six. The government has confirmed that the new Dunedin Hospital

will be built on the old Cadbury factory site in town there. What, I thought this was already happening. I did too. But then it wasn't and now it is again. Then it wasn't, hey. It's a whole thing. Okay. But it is happening.

That's good news for Dunedin. The government capped funding for the hospital at 1.9 bill. 35,000 people turned out to protest that. Public outcry at this downsizing of the hospital. No good. What are they doing with the current one? They wanted one of those 30% extra blocks. Yeah.

Oh, good gag. Good gag. He's on fire today. He is. What's his secret? I made a joke even before we were on air. What's the secret? We were talking about nuns for some reason.

He just said to Shannon, with no audience, none of your business. And I was just like... How many nuns are there? He said, that's none of your business. When we make jokes, Fawn, and I say this with love, we're so desperate for a crown.

Yeah, we are. And laughter. He's just got jokes. He's just firing them out. Why does... Yeah, Willie, no one shall laugh. Willie, no. I don't need an audience.

God, we laugh out louder. It's the nonchalantness that's sexy. It's sexy, man. It's sexy indifference. He doesn't care. We're like, laugh at me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Laugh at the clown.

Laugh at me. Laugh at the clown. Throw coins at me, you know? Yes, yes, yes, yes. And he's just like, ah. Whatever. Bit of fun. Well, I got the top six signs the new Dunedin Hospital,

speaking of desperate attempts at humour, has six of got the top six signs the new Dunedin Hospital, speaking of desperate attempts at humour, has six of them. Top six signs the new Dunedin Hospital is just the Cadbury factory re-skinned. Yeah. It's 1.9 billion, not a lot to build a hospital, I think. It's just going to probably get a lick of paint and probably be the same building.

Number six. I mean, it has been long demolished, but okay. Renovator's dream. Oh, has it? Yeah, it has. Well, they've still got all the bricks, though. Don't tell me they got rid of all those bricks. No, no, the framework's there.

Yeah. Number six. If you touch anything that the hospital CEO said you're not supposed to, you go down the garbage chute. Augustus! My boy, Augustus! Did he go down a garbage chute or a chocolate pipe?

He got sucked up the chocolate pipe. Yeah. Veruca went down the garbage chute or a chocolate pipe? He got sucked up the chocolate pipe. Yeah. Veruca went down the garbage chute. That's right. Mike TV got taken to the stretching room. Violet turned into a blueberry. And she got rolled out, didn't she? She got rolled out.

To be deflated. And who's the other one? Are we missing one? Charlie. Got the factory. God damn, Charlie. God damn, Charlie. Well done, Charlie.

He had the fizzy lifting drink. Number five on the list of the top six signs the new donated hospital is just the Cadbury Nellie. Well done, Charlie. Well done, Charlie. He had the fizzy lifting drink. Number five on the list of the top six signs the new donated hospital is just the Cadbury factory reskinned. 90% of the IV drips have a chocolatey taste to them. Yum. Straight to the veins. Straight in the veins. That's where I like my chocolate.

I'd want a caramel IV. You would. Yuck. How basic. How embarrassing. God. How embarrassing. We raised him up earlier, but we're happy to tear

him down. I'll tear him down for caromilk. Number four on the list of the top six signs that a Danen hospital's just the Cadbury factory re-skinned are everything's purple. Including the ambulances, which are also those 1930s delivery trucks that Cadbury loved. Yum. Yum. Yeah. Purple,

though. Quite an alarming colour. What is purple? It's not a calming colour, is it? No, it's cool. Blue's calming. Yeah. Green's calming. Mm.

Purple. Not quite calming. Purple mood. Yeah. Describe purple mood. Colour meaning associated with light-hearted romantic energies. Okay. While darker shades, which I would call the Cadbury one, represent sadness and frustration.

Yeah. Oh. I going to eat more chocolate I mean there's plenty of that in the hospital already yeah true number three on the list of the top six signs the Dunedin hospital is just the Cadbury factory

refurbished if you've got a complaint and you take it to someone it's just met with well why don't you marry Whittaker's then if you love them so much

I wasn't even talking about that I was talking about the hospital but they're just used to saying that. Number two on the list of the top six signs the new Dunedin hospital is just the Cadbury factory refurbished. When you get to the hospital,

you need a golden ticket to get in. Not good news for the emergency department. Good news for you if you do get in because the wait's going to be significantly shorter. And don't take the glass elevator when you do get into the hospital. Don't do that. Don't do that.

And number one on the list of the top six signs the New Dunedin hospital is just a Cadbury factory refurbished. Are the nurses all small orange men who sing your diagnosis? Oh, yes. Oompa loompa doompadee squirt. Bad news about Nana. She is now dead. Oh.

They break it to you in song. Slightly easier to take. Does fit. Yeah, you're sort of laughing and then you hear it. You're like, wait, what? Wait, she's what? Go again. Oompa Loompa, stage four, cancer.

Wait, what? The first one, they've got a very specific format. They would say, Oompa Loompa, Doompity Ranser. Terrible news at stage four cancer. Oh, shit. They always, yeah. They always, right, you can kind of work out what they're going to say by listening to the first part of the rhyme.

Yeah. Yeah. Loompa doompity doompity pamputated. That's today's top six. We're asking you if you've ever had a tattoo removed. You can give us a text, 9696, because Pete Davidson, who a number of years ago was utterly covered

in quite childish tattoos, head to toe. Yeah. He was on Felon talking about the process of having them removed. Are you going to keep any? Maybe like two or three, but I'm trying to clean slate it. Wow. Yeah. That's fantastic. Trying to be an adult.

Good for you. So, do you know he spent $350,000 on this? To get them removed? Yeah, and it's taken years. I think he's like four years in. Here's what Google said. The average amount of laser tattoo removal sessions, five to ten, but for larger tattoos could be, yeah, six to eight or more.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and in, like, the dark, it depends. Is it colour? Is it black? Is it dark? Was it done well? Was it done terribly? So, he's been talking about this quite a lot recently

because he got sober. He's put on 10 pounds, like 10 kgs. He just said he looked in the mirror and was like, who is this like funky guy? Like, no, no, no. But it is such a process. Yeah, and it's like lazy. He said it's painful.

And it's like lazy hair removal. You've got to have a six to eight week gap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And no sun. And no sun. So it's going to take years if you're covered in tattoos like he is. Years. Luke, what tattoo have you had removed?

Yeah, I got my daughter's name tattooed on me. Don't like her anymore, eh? Nah, nah, nah. I got it removed and then I got it put back on. Oh, okay, why? Yeah, the tattoo joint spouts her name wrong. Oh. What was her name?

Her name was Olivia, but they put it as Oliver. They missed out an I. Oh, so they went O-L-I-V-A, no second I. You couldn't slip a little I in there? Because I do this when I'm writing Christmas cards. Yeah, I do that too. With the little arrow? Sometimes if I miss an I, I'll just put a dot up there. Yeah. How many sessions did

you have to get that done? I got three laser sessions on it to get it off properly. And then you've put it back on in the same spot? Yeah, so they got rid of the V and the A and then started again putting V on A. And did the tattoo guy do it for free? Yeah, well, that's the story.

I got home and my wife sort of started laughing at my tattoo that I got. And then I said, what are you laughing at? They spelled her name wrong. And I said, yeah, yeah, whatever. So I snuck off to the mirror to have a look and then I thought, bugger, they bloody have. Oh my God. At least you've got that

fixed up now, though. Yeah. Yeah, they tried to blame me for not reading the stencil properly. I mean, it's okay. That's so good. Luke, thank you. And send our love to Oliver as well. Is it too early for Caller of the Week? I feel like we should Caller of the Week this. It's so good. Luke, thank you. And send our love to Oliver as well. Yeah, is it too early for Caller of the Week? I feel like we should Caller of the Week this. It's too funny. Go on, do it.

It's too funny. Literally the first Caller of the Week. He's like, is it too early? First call. Nah, we'll do it. I'm going to do this. Caller of the Week. Thanks to Kenvis Warehouse. I've got a prize pack worth 50 bucks for you. Luke, well done. You can get some Bepanth. Thank you. I was going to say. See you next tattoo. Play ZM's Flashletchborn and Hayley

Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley It's a funny story Unless you're the James Cook Hotel Who've just had to Go to this Human rights tribunal

Over the fact that In 2020 A person who I'm not Going to name Because I don't want to Be the next person That they try to take to court Because I'll

tell you soon about their history of taking different places to court. Okay. In 2020, this person ordered a Jack Daniels with Coke no sugar. And they said, we don't have Coke no sugar, we've only got Coke Zero. And, you know, it's basically the same as what the bartender said. It is. The person disagreed and filed a complaint accusing the

hotel of false advertising. And then he was subsequently... What do you mean false advertising? He was subsequently banned for rude behavior. Then he said, you banned me because of my political opinion, which is a breach of the Human Rights Act. And it went to the tribunal. You have said this claim lacks merit. And you're not expressing a political opinion.

You were simply saying that you wanted Coke, no sugar, not Coke Zero. The case was dismissed and they said if you were a New Zealand resident, you would have been paying the hotel's legal costs for wasting their time, but not a New Zealand citizen. This is okay, right. Oh, okay. But Izzy here must be studying because a Google of the name tells me that this fellow also tried to sue the Victoria University in Wellington. Okay.

As he got moved from one halls of residence to another halls of residence and said this new one is uphill and I want $35,000. Yeah, yeah. I mean, maybe he should have studied in Christchurch where everything's flat, dude. Yeah, that's it. Like, yeah. Go to Palmy, like. Yeah. I don't think Wellington or Palmy want him

because he's also claimed that a restaurant, when he went there to order, a hot pot was discriminatory. He said, I want to pay for one person to eat the hot pot. And they said it's a two-person hot pot. So if you're a one-person eating the two-person hot pot, you're still paying for a two, still paying the fee that two people will pay. It's the hot pot and they said it's a two person hot pot so if you're a one person eating the two person hot pot you're still paying for a two still paying the fee

that two people will pay. It's the hot pot you're paying for. You're paying for the hot pot. Not the second chair. He said no it's a minimum of two diners on the hot pot so you're paying for two people

and he's like no I'm only one person I don't want to pay I just want to eat one hot pot. They're like you're paying for the hot pot my dude. This guy would have no friends, right? He sounds like such a ball act to be around.

If I was to say to you, hot pot? Hell yeah, man, hot pot. That's what friends say when friends ask them to hot pot because hot pot rules. Yum, hot pot. Hot pot rules. So this guy's just got no hobbies, too much time on his hands. He's got money, obviously.

No, I don't know, because he represents himself. Is he studying law? Oh, he represents himself. I mean, he hasn't won a case yet, so it's not too great for your LinkedIn, is it? Oh yeah, because if he was a law student, right, because he was studying in Wellington,

if he was a law student, maybe he is just trying to get some experience by suing all these people. We don't really sue in New Zealand either, do we? Not in the way America does. It's not suing, he wants damages. And I think if you can prove that your human rights were neglected or whatever.

Like when there's Coke Zero, not Coke No Sugar. Yeah, if you can prove that you were banned from a hotel for a political opinion, because we all know the Great Divider is not the left and the right of the political horseshoe. It is simply Coke No Sugar or Coke Zero. You can't get Coke Zero anymore, right? No, you still can. You still can?

I get Coke Zero. Oh, do you? Okay. I don't care. They're all the same. Is that because everybody in New Zealand kicked up a stink? Whereas the rest of the world, they're just like, who cares? Yeah. The only one who won't drink is Diet Coke. And I the rest of the world, they're just like, who cares? Yeah. The only one I won't drink is Diet Coke.

And I don't know why in my head, to me, that's different. That does taste different. That does taste different. Diet Coke tastes different to Coke Zero or Coke No Sugar. Have you had a full sugar Coke lately? Woo! No, have I? Have my hairs on your chest.

Wow! I want them back. It gives you a real buzzeroo. Who? It's all go. Anyway, I just, someone said he sounds American. It is American in nature. Yeah.

To be trying to get money out of everybody. I mean, maybe go back to flat America if you don't like it here. Yeah, if we're too hilly for you. If we don't have the right coke. Yeah, so if we don't have the right coke and too many hills. And double hot pops. ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Silly Little Pole, are you the dominant one in your relationship? There was a letter that someone had written into the Washington Post.

And it was a woman who was out at dinner with her husband and another couple. And the wife made a comment to this woman that she wishes she could be the dominant one like her. And the woman was like offended. She was like, I'm not the dominant one.

Someone needs to be in charge. Got all offended like thinking that and maybe it was like a gender role, you know, because this was two heterosexual couples

and the woman was dominant. But you would say you're the... But I read this and I was like... That's you. You're the dominant one. That's power, baby.

Aaron's a very strong personality, but in terms of like our relationship structure, I'm often like, I'm the one who's like, let's move to Auckland, let's do this,

let's buy this house, let's sink all this money into it. Follow me, follow me. We're all good. Some would say maybe it's time you let him have a turn at this point.

No, no, no, I'm the dominant one. None of these decisions sound like... What did you answer, Vaughn? I didn't. Okay. You sat this one out.

Yeah, I sat this one out. And Fletch is a lonely. I put dominant. I put dominant. You were the dominant one. I tell myself, that cat's the dominant one. Oh, 100%. He runs the room.

He scratches the couch. And you're like, oh, if you could stop that, it'd be nice. Is it possible if you could stop scratching my couch? Maybe don't ruin everything in the house. Well, 59% of people who responded said they were the dominant one. 41% said they were not the dominant one. Okay.

Jack said, I truly believe we both have a leg in the pants. Oh, okay. Alright, Jack. You little sub. You little sub. Is it okay if I talk to my friends? Nah, just kidding, Jack. Donna said, I'm always the boss and he's a man-child.

Oh, yep. Yeah, yeah. It helps to be dominant when they can't cook or something. Do you know what I mean? Because you're also dominating what we're eating today. Yeah. Which is also what you do, right? Yes.

Ali said, I wish he was the dominant one. Oh, okay. She wants to be dominated. She's been reading some books. Yeah. Ali said, I wish he was the dominant one. Oh, okay. She wants to be nominated. She's been reading some books. Yeah. Geordie said, I've managed to not go a day without getting what I want. I've managed to not go a day without getting what I want. So she's the dominant one because she always gets what she wants, right? Ash, in what context?

Running the household. Yes, I am the dominant one. Adult fun times. No, not the dominant one. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. I didn't even think about the bedroom side of things. A little bit of a role reversal there.

Ash there, in case you're wondering. Male. Okay. Hot. Ellen. Yes, I am dominant, but not on purpose. I'm just a girl that wants princess treatment. Nice.

So she's demanding. Yeah. I want this or that. Less dominant, more a lot of work. Well, I recognise it. She's a lot of work. Well, I recognise it. She's a lot of work. What I see here is a mirror. Libby said, yes, I am the dominant one, but don't tell him.

Oh, okay. Shannon said, wait a second, let me get my fiancé's balls out of my handbag to see what they have to say for themselves. Oh, my God. Wow. Okay, there's no mistake there. Wow, Shannon. Gabby said he tries to tell me what to do.

I'm not having it. Kaylee, Fitty Fitty, equal. He takes the dominant cake inside the bedroom everywhere else I rule. Okay. Goodness me. Goodness me. Goodness me, there's still a little pile. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley.

Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. I want to know, what are you not in the demo for that you love? Like it's not made for you. You're not its target audience, but you're really, really into it. Like Shannon and her crochet. She's a young Gen Zer. Although a lot of people have been getting into the crochet. It's become quite popular. I feel like over lockdown it kind of boomed. It's getting back into that sort of thing.

Yeah, but that's a nanner activity. That's skipped a generation though because a few like probably our parents when they were young might have done it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Out of necessity. Like a young lawn bowls champion. I like saying that. Who's like 18 and you're like, what are you doing there?

Or that incredible 18-year- old dance player who's like the best in the world and he's surrounded by all these middle aged people. He does look middle aged in 40. Well maybe you're just like a little dainty girl and I'll bump into you in the bloody mosh pit at Slipknot. You know like that's not the target. The reason we're asking this is because there is a study about

romance novels that apparently God, I, what says that men are bigger romance The reason we're asking this is because there is a study about romance novels that apparently, God, I, what, says that men are bigger romance fans than women. Spending 364 hours per year reading romance novels compared to women's 312 hours. We read fast. I don't know if that's true, is it? Yeah. I've never read a romance novel. I mean, it depends.

I used to read Babysitter's Club when I was a kid. Not quite. It depends on what you are calling romance. You didn't picture Mallory from her description. Oh, yeah. Curly hair, glasses, Mallory. Do you girls know any guys that read romance? I have a few, like, bookstagram friends who are boys who love a romance novel,

but not necessarily anyone directly around me. I definitely follow a few guys on Instagram, but none of my personal friends are reading like Akita or anything like that. I mean, it's definitely like a plus. Like it makes sense, right? If you know what the girlies are reading, you know what the girlies want. Well, they're written by women and they're saying, well, the women are both. It's a step by step.

It's a how-to for dummies. I mean, really. All right. Do yourself a favour and pick up dummies. I mean, really. All right, so they are reading. Do yourself a favour and pick up the book. Right, I see. What's the one that you just read that's, like, broken the record for, like? Yeah, so it's the fourth wing series.

So the newest one is Onyx Storm, which sold out immediately. We talked about this a couple of weeks ago. Best-selling adult novel in, like, 20 years. Yeah, people took days off work to read it to avoid spoilers. Huge. But apparently men, men are getting into these romance novels. Okay, well this is what we want to ask this morning.

Yeah, what are you not in the demo for that you absolutely love? Like maybe you're a young female stock car driver. Exactly. I mean, it sounds like I'm stereotyping there, but when you imagine a stock car driver, it's like old mates, right? Someone said that's only because men read slower.

They're saying that men are spending more hours reading romance because they're reading word by word. Also, someone texted saying romance or quote romance. That's what I meant. We're all different degrees. We used to read romance novels before you guys did and they were in the form of letters in the back of magazines with glossy covers. That's right, that's right. Okay, 0800DARLS.M, give us a call now.

You can text through 9696. What are you not in the demo for, but you absolutely love? Give us a call. What are you not in the demo for that you absolutely love? That is the question upon our lips this morning, because apparently men more than ever are reading romance novels. Like,

they're getting into the ACOTAR, they're reading, they were lining up for Onyx Storm. A Court of Thorns and Roses. Good boy. Maya, what are you not in the demo for but love? I love doing cross-stitch. Does cross-stitch have a demo? I feel

it's just an enjoyable way to pass the time. Older ladies. It's what you do in the rest time when you're waiting for your family to finally visit you. Yeah, we're waiting for death. Maya, how old are you? I'm 20. Yeah, that's young. Young for cross-stitch, yeah. What kind of stuff are you cross-stitching?

Are you doing rude cross-stitch or are you doing ducks and flowers? This, I donitch or are you doing ducks and flowers? I don't know. Yeah, ducks and flowers. Because I saw a book at the supermarket. It was 50 Pokemon cross-stitch designs, and I picked it up and flipped through it. I could buy that for you in exchange for you making me some Pokemon cross-stitch.

You don't need it. Sharni's never going to let you hang that up anywhere. Well, I will hang it in my secret place. See, I'd want a rude cross stitch. Yeah, me too. That would be funny. That would be more up my alley. Maya, thank you.

Some messages in. I'm an extremely femme girl. Femme girl? Femme girl. Loves Pink, Litter and Taylor Swift, but boy, at my weekends, I love watching Speedway. Oh, wow. Speedway.

I love watching Speedway. Very masc. I'm a 30-year-old woman and I spend every evening playing Call of Duty. I would like to apologise on behalf of men everywhere. Yeah, that's not what you'd think the demo would be. No, certainly not. Certainly not. My husband is in his late 40s. I wish we had a name here because this is a name and shame. Okay. Loves all of the Real Housewives shows. I, his wife, prefer a good Western movie. That's flipped around, that is. Cute.

Him watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and be like, oh no, she didn't. Oh, and he's like, oh, I'm excited for next season of Real Housewives Atlanta. Oh yeah, that Bethany Frankel. I'm a 35-year-old mum and I love Pokemon and collecting Pokemon cards. Not because my kids do, Jersey. That Bethany Frankel. I'm a 35-year-old mum and I love Pokemon and collecting Pokemon cards. Not because my kids do.

They're actually not allowed to touch. Yeah, people get quite serious about those, don't they? It's a bit like you, though. Pokemon cards. Yeah, they're cool. They're pretty to look at. They're just cards. Not in my demographic.

Well, yeah, we'll see. Five-foot-three woman who dresses girly, nails painted, et cetera, dresses. I love them, but I love steam trains. Steam trains. I think steam trains just appeal to everybody. Yeah. Deep down. Deep down, everyone's got a little steam train.

I'm unaffected by steam trains. Are you kidding me? Yeah. I think if I saw one go by, I'd be like, cool. Oh, steam train. But I'm not going to then jump on the internet and start Googling it and looking it up and being like, what train's that? Since I was a seven year old girl

I've been a massive fan of UFC thanks to my dad chucking me in front of the TV one day when it was on I'm now 22 this week we fly over together to Sydney to watch it live

for the first time that's a nice dad daughter activity it's a lot of head trauma it's a lot of head trauma they chuck each other in the head it looks ouchy people

I've been invited do you want to come around and watch UFC? I'm just like what's that thing where they get on the scales and they nearly kiss each other? The weigh-in.

Yeah, I love that. The pre-fight weigh-in. I'd lick their nose. You'd lick their nose? Yeah, we were nose to nose. Someone said 30-year-old mum loves Harry Potter. No, you're allowed to because you would have been prime Harry Potter age when it came out.

It's over 20 years. It's like 25 years since the first Harry Potter came out. So you would have been prime for the Philosopher's Stone as a child. You think about how long ago it came out. It's over 20 years. It's like 25 years since the first Harry Potter came out. So you would have been primed for the Philosopher's Stone as a child. You think about how long ago they came out.

Yeah, they did. But I think the thing is more that we grow out of these things. Like when I was a kid, I was obsessed with Barbie, but I don't now have like Barbie tattoos and Barbie this,

Barbie that. You know, Harry Potter, like adult Harry Potter fans, they go hard. Oh yeah. My 32 year old husband is obsessed with maths. Wow, we've got John Aitken coming up.

We do have John Aitken on the show. Yeah. Tell your hubby to tune in. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. Well, Animates currently has a portition. Get it? Not petition. Portition.

Because it's involving animals. And you go on pawprintpetition.co.nz, I've gone on and it says, welcome back Hayley, we hope Rolly's doing well. I mean, that's a nice time. That's nice. And there's a little dog and he walks onto the screen, a little cartoon, and he's got a firework next to him that's about to explode. He lifts his leggy peas

on it and it's gone out. He's a happy dog. That is the meaning of this Portition is to try to ban fireworks from like domestic use. Yeah, public sale. So it's not against public displays like New Year's or actually on Guy Fawkes if it's done big and right. Big and right and like in an area where people can go because, I mean, we're all pet owners. Like Raleigh absolutely hates them.

Pets hate these things. They're terrified and they don't understand what's going on. Raleigh always spends, like, the whole entire night like, cowering and crying under the couch. It's awful. So this is what Animates is doing. So far they have nearly 75,000 pet signatures from animals themselves that have logged on

and 80,000 human signatures. And it's so easy. And I feel like lots of, like this is the thing that Animates is doing. There's not trying to like take away the fun of Guy Fawkes and the, you know, the big fun displays. Yeah. But I think when your neighbour's like firing off a lame.

In November and then in January and then in March. Yeah, all of November, a little bit early October. And then they get a bit soggy, don't they? Any longer than that and they get dangerous. So there's not only the fact that it's scary for pets, but also just a dangerous thing. The thing with climate change as well, like everything's so tinder dry.

Yeah, we don't want to be doing that. So much longer, there's more fires. I'm very much for this because I know that the animals hate it and they don't and they can't say it and then they get all scared and confused. Does Mars hate them? Yeah, he does. But your central city is probably not as much. No, people fire

fireworks from their balconies and stuff. I'm not even kidding. People are roaming candles. In the middle of the city. Yeah, in the middle of the city from balconies and stuff. But you're literally down the road from the real big thing. Yeah, I know. Wow. If this is something that you want to get behind,

it's easy. You can just like Google animates petition. Yep. Or just go to pawprintpetition.co.nz and you sign it and you get your cat

or your dog to sign it or whatever other animal. I've just counted two dogs, a cat, two cows, two goats, two pigs.

I've got one left because I can sign up to one. One of your cows likes fireworks, so you've probably shouldn't count that one. So then two of the chickens get to sign it. I'm wondering which of the two chickens would like to sign it. Who's the mouthpiece of the chooks?

Rob's kind of stepping down. Rob's the last surviving cluckdashy hen. Yeah, which is surprising. I really would have thought it would have That's what he gets for staying out of the limelight. You know? Lives longer.

Yeah. Chills in the chicken coop. Would have been their senior figure but maybe one of the others now. We'll get an easy

text code as well if you want the link to the portition. Just text PAWS to 9696. Play ZM's

Fletchbourne and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Apparently the Grammys is going to be going ahead today with a renewed sense of purpose on the back of the California fires. Yeah. That, you know, everyone was like, are these things still going to go ahead?

When I say everyone was like, they actually no one cared. The Grammys would go ahead. But I love the Grammys mostly for the fashion. Yeah. The red carpet. They go a little bit like spicier than they do for the movie ones.

Because it's a bit more rock. There are a few more rockers and oldies. Yeah, totally. And you can, we can literally wear like a nipple paste energy string and people would be like, fashion, Dolce Gabbana. Yeah.

So it's being hosted for the fifth year in a row by Trevor Noah. Fifth year in a row. They just like not mixing it up. Yeah. He's a great host. Here is who is performing. Benson Boone, Chapel Roan, Dochi.

Can't get enough. Oh, yeah, Dochi. Cannot get enough of Dochi at the moment. You have my attention. Yeah. Well, because you got so into her and now I've listened to nothing but Dochi over the weekend. It's good, eh? Yeah, so good.

It's good. It's good. It's good. Fletch? Yeah, it's good. Did you listen to Doce? Yes. That's been my recommendation. You know I don't make

music recommendations often but you don't. I had previously listened. Okay, good. So good. Ray's performing Sabrina Carpenter, Shabuzy and Teddy Swim.

What a line-up. So those are the nominees that are performing. Also Billie Eilish, Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars, Charlie XCX, Shakira. Like, what a concert. She's got a big tax bill to pay. She does.

There's a few nominees that have been announced that haven't been said that they're going to perform, like Beyonce, Kendrick Lamar, and Taylor Swift. But Taylor Swift has been added to the list of people presenting awards alongside William Smith. Will Smith will be presenting an award. Because did he, he slapped at the

Oscars. Not the Grammys. And then he got banned from the Oscars, but not the Grammys. For how long? Ever. Invite him, but don't. He shouldn't be hosting. Interesting, eh? It's a wild call. Why? What's the... You. Why is he, what's he presenting?

Why? What's the? You're only doing this to get people like us right now talking about this so that people watch the Grammys in this very moment. Oh, scandalous. He's there. Like, that's the only reason he's presenting, right? Yeah, I guess so.

Isn't he in some, I saw over the, because remember he turned down the role of Neo in the Matrix movies to be in Wild Wild West. Now, if you're like, I've never heard of Wild Wild West. Yes, it was a bad choice. Yeah. Oh, yeah, terrible. But Canada Reads is Neo.

You can't imagine it any other way. Of course. But he's in some music video that got released last week where he, the whole, it's got a Matrix-y vibe and he does stuff that Neo did in the movies. Right. And so I feel like there's this, is there a little bit of a resurgence? He's done his time. Maybe.

He's done his time. He can come back now. Do you know, apparently Cynthia Erivo from Wicked is also going to be singing, I think, somewhat of a tribute, you know, to, they'll be doing things to mark their, mark the sadness of the wildfires. But yeah, man, like amazing lineup. Great host, great guest.

The fashion will be great. And then like Will Smith is just going to take to the stage. Well, New Zealand time, it's, is it? Hang on. I think it's 9.30 New Zealand time is when it's like red carpet and it starts. Yeah. This morning. Yeah, this morning, New Zealand time, because it's Sunday, LA time.

Yeah. Streaming on the Grammys website and the Grammys YouTube channel if you want to watch. That's where I always watch it. Catch all the Fassian. For the Fassian. For the Fassian. What are you,

I'm just interested for your take, guys, on the Fassian. Who do you think's going to come in hot for the Fassian? Because I don't want to always be overruled in the Fassian news. I'm hoping to see some jorts on the red carpet.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe a comfortable croc. Do you know who would rock a jort and a croc on the red carpet? Billie Eilish. Billie Eilish could do it. She'd rock a jort and croc. Yeah. And look great doing so.

I don't know that Beyonce is going to be rocking up in a pair of sort of baggy jorts. No. You know what I mean? She's in her cowboy era. Yeah. We can wear jorts on the range. Do they do cowboy crocs? Of course they do.

Oh, my God. Have you seen? Wait. I need to get your live reaction. I mean, they're just gumboots, right? With holes in them. Yeah, gumboots with holes in them. These are the cowboy boot Crocs. Okay. Now, I'm going to say, if these were to turn

up and I was, you know, like, I wouldn't go buying them, but if someone bought these for me. How much are those? Are they actual Crocs or are they? $285. Because at the top, see on the top of the cowboy boot, it says Crocs. New Zealand dollars. New Zealand dollars.

Or US. New Zealand dollars. When's his birthday? Born, let's start chipping away. June 23rd. Chipping away. I don't need cowboy Crocs. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.

If humans could fly. If only. If only. Where would you go? Well, the thing, I've thought about it a lot. I can probably only fly as fast as I can run and walk, right? Or do you think I could fly significantly faster? I don't know.

Have you ever looked out the window when you fly to Australia and you're like, man, birds, do you reckon they get halfway and they're like, oh, I can't be bothered. To Australia. Migratory birds. Yeah, and they're like, well, what can I do? I've got to keep going.

I've just been following this bastard at the front for ages. Yeah. He didn't even say where we're going. I just like sort of blindly followed him. Yeah. So scientists have worked out that, God knows why, they've just done the maths on what it would require to get a 70 kg, five foot tall human.

So that's a child, to fly using bird wings. Six metres. Six metres of wings. So three metres each side of a tiny child. If you're 5 foot. If you're 5 foot and 70kg. So if you're 6 foot.

Way more. Oh my God, okay. So that's impractical. So if you put your arms. Way more. Oh my God. Okay. So that's impractical. So if you put your arms out and they were wings. So what would the span be? The same as your height. The span is your height, generally. But if we had wings.

Well, one and a half at least of me each side. Two and a half of each of me each side. You wouldn't even fit in the studio. I don't even think I could fold my wings up to have behind my back and some sort of subtle. People would be very well aware that I had wings. Why do they have to be that big? Just because of our body.

It's not like a bird. Because the birds have hollow bones and they're made. They don't have long legs. I've got a lot of leg. Whereas on a bird, they're just little sticks. Yeah, yeah. I'm quat. Man, I've got qu lot of leg Whereas on a bird they're just little sticks I'm quat and I've got quads for days Well chickens have quads They're delicious delicious quads

But they don't Especially in a teriyaki sauce Oh I love a teriyaki quad I'm going to start calling them drumsticks I'm going to start calling them chicken quads Yes Chicken quads for dinner Oh man let's have some sticky quads Oh I calling them chicken quads. Yes, I am. Chicken quads for dinner, dinner I love. Oh, man, let's have some sticky quads.

Oh, I'd love some quads. And start calling chicken wings arms. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chicken arms and some chicken quads for dinner on the barbecue. Delicious. Okay, so if you can only have one animal feature. Tail. No, it would be impractical.

What would it be? It would be super handy. No, it wouldn't be. Are you using it like a monkey tail? Yeah. Like a fully. You can use crab things. Yeah. No, it would be impractical. What would it be? It would be super handy. No, it wouldn't be. Are you using it like a monkey tail? Yeah. Like a fully... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fully dexterous tail.

Swing on the trees. But again, it would be like the bird wings. It would need to be so much bigger. That's fine. Yeah, we'd have big, fatty, chunky tails. But like, you know, monkeys are little. Yeah, monkeys are little. But I would have...

The tail would have to have fur on it. I've said it before, a long skin covered tail is yuck. Yeah. Like if I had a tail. Oh, yeah, like you may never feel it was like human skin. Yes. Oh, yeah, yuck. Yeah, like an arm.

That's not, no. I don't want that. I want it fully covered in an animal fur. And if it came bald, I'd probably get a merkin for the entire thing. Oh, you'd have to do a full cut merkin. I'd go on Tamer, I'd be like, tail covering. Yeah, yeah, you want a fluffy one. Or I'd be like, tail covering. Yeah, yeah. Or get a sock or something.

Yeah, yeah. A merino sleeve. That's a good call. Some wool. What about some of those like cool eyeballs that animals have? You know,

they see in the dark or they can see. Like goats, you can see right behind you. Yeah, 330 degrees. Third eyelid would be awesome. Someone text. And also we have heard

from quite a number of five foot 70 kg women who are definitely not children. And they want an apology made from you. Right. Okay. I'm sorry, they're five foot and they're not children. They're five foot around 70 kgs. Definitely, definitely not a child.

Are they Oompa Loompas? Not Oompa Loompas, just petite women. One apology. A five foot. Now 70 kgs, I've got to put them with a five foot. Good morning to our petite listeners. Kylie Minogue is five foot. Would yous I've got to put on with a five foot. Kylie Minogue is five foot. Would you call us the tallest show on radio?

I think on average we'd have to be up there. Yeah. You're six foot. I'm six two. You're six. I'm five eleven. Five eleven. If you were a guy you'd say six. If I was a guy I'd say six. Always add an inch. Everywhere. Everywhere we're adding inches. Except jeans. a guy, I'd say six. Always add an inch. Oh, yeah, always add an inch. Oh, everywhere.

Everywhere we're adding inches. Except jeans. Except for jeans. Except for jeans. We're just keeping those snug. In seam, in seam. Add an inch on the in seam because then you've got long legs. Around the waist. And a tiny penis.

We're taking one away. Yeah, I always take it away. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. ZM's $50,000 secret sound. It is back And we welcome into the studio Former soundkeeper Georgia Burt Who has retired from this season I've put up the old fur coat

And I'm done That's right, the fur coat God, that thing was hot Honestly, was it summer? No, it was winter I made sure it was winter. But no, I couldn't hack it anymore. It's a lot of pressure.

It is. Yeah, Brooke is going to be our new soundkeeper. Brooke does the night show here on ZM. We've put her through paces. It's a lot of hours. You've got to be here from when the first guest happens to when the last guest ends. And that means more time hanging out with you guys.

Which you love. I love it. Which you love. What love it. Which you love. What was the sound last time? I was trying to remember because my favourite, I think, ever was the chopsticks. Oh, splitting takeaway chopsticks. That was OG, right?

It was one of the early ones. Yeah. But it was so simple and something that I did. $50,000 secret sound. Excuse me. Don't sound. Excuse me. That shouldn't be there. Don't interrupt. Excuse me.

We're talking. I'll write that down. How far into that was that, Fletch? Five minutes 20 to go on the bed. It was a minute 18 in. If you see something, say something. Yeah. That's right.

Like a suitcase on a train that's unattended. Say something. See something, say something. What was your sound, Georgia? We're stopping terrorism here. We are unattended. Say something. Say something, say something. What was your sound, Georgia? We're stopping terrorism here. We are. One. Audio terrorism.

Cracking of a boiled egg at a time. That was mine. That's right. Because it's a lot of pressure knowing the sound. You're the only one that knows the sound and you get a lot of messages from people. Oh, people from back in the day that they're like, hey, how are you?

And you're like, what is it? What is it? Like your primary, hey, how are you? And you're like, what is it? What is it? Like your primary school days, you know what? You had North Korea, Iran trying to hack into your email? Because they wanted the cash? Yeah. I'm surprised I'm not cashed up. If they were trying to get in and I didn't give it away.

Well, you can't be open to bribery as a soundkeeper. Oh, I know. People genuinely ask us all the time, but you know what it is. I'm like, no, genuinely ask us all the time, but you know what it is. I'm like, no, I couldn't. I couldn't. I don't want to know what it is. No, neither.

Because you wouldn't want to let something slip. No. And that's why I love not knowing. I also love playing along and trying to figure out what it is. Do you know anything? You don't know anything about this year's sound? No. Honestly, no.

And I'm glad. I don't want to. It's kind of nice being on the other side of it. Brooke's going to do, she's going to be epic with it. Well, it starts a week today. ZM Secret Sound, we're giving you the chance to win up to $50,000. So I don't think we're going to start at $50,000. It might, you know, as always, a little jackpot.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. As the competition goes on. But man, we've given away some cash over the years with ZM Secret Sound. So make sure you are listening Monday morning. 50k feels good just about now, doesn't it? Great way after, you know, a lot of people taking an extra long weekend with Waitangi. Yep, totally. Great.

We'll get back into it on Monday with your chance to win with ZM Secret Sound. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. I don't want to start your 8 o'clock hour on a downer, but there was a very upset woman. She had a harrowing tale on her social media of her boyfriend absolutely ruining something. I cannot believe I'm crying this hard over a sweater. This was my favourite sweater

from Cezanne. It's not supposed to look like this or feel like this. It's still wet. It's still wet. What happened? Sorry, what she's referring to there. Sorry, everyone who's really into fashion.

Cezanne, she had a Cezanne cardigan. What is a Cezanne? Oh, it's just a brand. It's a European brand. Is it a flash brand? Well, what's happened is I've looked up Cezanne and now I'm on the website thinking I could do it with a cashmere jumper.

Right. Very expensive. Right. It's a five. I'm not going to thinking I could do it with a cashmere jumper. Right. Very expensive. Right. It's a five. I'm not going to buy one. It's ridiculous. But it was a grey mohair and cashmere cardigan. Okay.

Which her boyfriend thought he would be helpful and put it in the washing machine. Hasn't this exact thing happened to you? Yep. Like constantly. Erin, what do we not put in the dryer? this exact thing happen to you? Yep. Like, constantly. Aaron, what do we not put in the dryer? Linen. Yes, good boy.

And? 100%. Cotton. Yes. And what do we not put in the washing machine? Silk. Yeah. He does.

Where does silk go? Dry cleaners. Oh. 100% of the time. Okay. I don't own any silk, so this is not a problem. No. Yeah, I don't think your wardrobes are overfloweth with silk.

No. But yeah, this happens. And when you wash mohair, it goes. What are you meant to do? Dry clean it. Okay, right. Yeah. I just think when in doubt, leave it. Leave it. Yep. Don't touch my washing or dry cleaners. Okay, right. Yeah. I just think when in doubt, leave it. Leave it.

Yep. Don't touch my washing or dry cleaners. But when you wash mohair in particular, it goes tight. Like it goes like a dreadlock. So she's spent like hundreds of dollars on this. Yeah, about five to six hundred bucks on this. On this cardigan. She's like, wait.

No wonder she's crying. She puts it on and it looks like a piece of cardboard. And it's like, you know, up to her forearms and stuff, absolutely shrunk to pieces. But I mean, with the best of intentions, sometimes our partners do ruin things. You're just not looking and you put the whole basket in. Yeah, exactly.

You're like, that's a red cardigan. I'm doing colours. We'll just do that. Yeah. This is what we want to know this morning is what has your partner ruined recently? Accidentally or on purpose? I mean it's all going to be

On purpose is vindictive. Toxic behaviour where they've ruined something that you love. He spray painted my car. No but you know maybe with the best of intentions they ruined something maybe you were baking something and they thought that'd be helpful and they opened the oven to check on it and went pffft. Because that

happens. And I'm also not saying that this has to be just men ruining things. I'm just, in my head. I was saying it. I was thinking it. Felt that way. Yeah. Well, that's just from my perspective. Feel free to think of something that a woman's ruined. I mean, I personally

don't know how your brain would go there. We know so many things. You know? Yeah, and so perfect. Yeah, exactly. Every time. Can you think of anything off the top of your head, Vaughn? Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right.

That arsehole ate my cream eggs while I was at Luke Combs. Wait, it's already cream egg season? Oh, do you eat his cream eggs for a while? There's more cream eggs. Ruined your little sweet treat. You were out. You were out. I doubt Luke Combs was free.

You know, she's coming home from Luke Combs. I'm also gendering this the way that I'm thinking. I think it's a woman. She's gone to Luke Combs. She's come home. It would be weird for a man

to call a woman an arsehole. I'll say that. It feels like it's very much woman to man. The word arsehole can't be used for a man to woman. It would be weird

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Oh, wow. How do you merge fetus and beast? I'm sure you'd be a beastess. Katrina, what has your partner ruined? So he accidentally Spelt my personal best Of specifically and specially Bought out breast milk 10 days into being a newborn family Oh god

PB how many mils are we talking We're talking 60 mils Yeah not bad Is that lots Yeah that's good stuff Katrina do you know what I would have done I would have hooked up the pump machine to his nipples and be like, you replace it. And you sit here until it's replaced.

I was gutted. Like, how do you react to that? You know, he was trying to put it in the fridge and do a good thing. And here I was pumping my little heart out. And we were both sleep deprived. And I was like, mate, it's okay. Like, it was cracking and breaking. I was like, mate, it's okay. Like, it was cracking and breaking. I was like, don't worry.

And then he kept apologising profusely. And about 10 minutes later, I was like, okay, F off. Yeah. I just, I can't look at you. I need space. Moment passed. Yeah. It's the best stories is when they're trying to help.

Yeah. We know. Well, they mean well. God knows we try. We do. Katrina, thank you. Some messages. help. Yeah. We know. Well, they mean well. God knows we try. We do. Katrina, thank you. Some messages. So many messages.

So many. My husband thought a bag containing all my pills was rubbish and threw it out, forcing me to withdraw from some of my medications. It was two days before I got replacements. Oh, no. You don't want to cold turkey some of that. No. I recently, I accidentally hot washed my partner's credit cards and they

shrunk and bent were still usable how hot is your hot wash like in the washing machine that must be an extremely hot wash

then I accidentally rewashed them but they came back to the right shape because they were inside a little metal card thing so when it got

hot it straightened and flattened them out oh that's kind of perfect that's kind of perfect. That's like the old situation in a movie where someone gets a donk on their head and then later on another donk reverses the donk, even though that would never happen.

That would just further cause concussion and possible brain injury later in life. What part of never wash my effing hats does she not understand? Oh, your caps. You can't wash a cap. You can't wash a hat. It's dishwasher, right? I wash my caps, my gym caps, but I don't care. I don't even think you can in the dishwasher.

I think you put them in the top rack. But not with a tablet, because that's cost-excited. That would ruin your hat, too. My husband once put in the wash my $500 American dollar Ralph Lauren pure cashmere top. It shrank to half its size. I had to give it to my 10-year-old niece. Oh, that's cute. Gutted to half its size. I had to give it to my 10-year-old niece. Oh, that's cute. Gutted.

That's cute. Yeah. Do you think the niece knew the value of that Ralph Lauren? Ralph Lauren. Oh, Aaron does this all the time, the washing machine. The washing machine itself, my husband's a tradie and regularly washes his work pants and never takes the screws out of his pockets.

Oh, yeah, you've got to do a pocket check. Every time I open up the washer, screws, little bolts, everything, drill bits. That's not good. My wife ruined my brand new car by putting diesel in it the day after I got it. Oh, yeah, that hurts. Yeah. My favourite hoodie. I wore it through my first pregnancy.

It was $15 from the warehouse, but it was special to me. I had to buy a new washing machine, as that's what stained it. There were tears and a little bit of an overreaction. But looking back on it now, maybe it wasn't an overreaction, but maybe it was. But maybe it wasn't.

Yeah. I'm sensing some hormonal impact here. Yeah. That's just what I'm feeling through the text machine there. Yeah. My wife ruined a dream I was having because in the dream, she went to Italy for six months without me.

What? Man, that's rough. That's the first time I've ever heard a guy be like, I'm angry at my wife because of a dream I had. Yes.

Now the boot is always on the other side. I know it always is. It's the other way around. My ex-husband ruined our marriage when he put his willy in the wrong

beep boop. Yep. That'll do it. Into another woman. My husband shrunk a pair of tuxedo pants of mine and I wasn't sure. I didn't notice until I tried them on. I thought, man, I've gained more weight than I thought

and I cried. Oh, no. I cried until I realised my calves were also struggling to breathe. He dug up my asparagus plants at the end of the season and threw them away. They took another four years to re-establish. You leave asparagus. Oh, do you? The crown and dick, you just leave it. You leave it. So you snap it season and threw them away. They took another four years to re-establish. You leave asparagus the crown and don't you just leave it?

You leave it. So you snap it off and you leave it. You cut the asparagus and you leave it. If asparagus disappeared from the face of the planet, no one's upset about that. Oh my god, I love asparagus. I love asparagus. Smelly wheeze. I don't get smelly wheeze. Who cares? Yeah, my wheeze doesn't smell. My wheeze smells every day. I think you've just got...

I've got reiki wee. She's a reiki weir. You know, reiki wee sprout. So the asparagus I don't even notice. A reiki weir could also be your kapa haka group. Could be, could be. I don't know what it means. In fact, that might be a very inappropriate kapa haka group, but I know what it translates to.

Oh my God, did I say this on air? Oh my God, I don't want to get in trouble. No, his Aaron's brothers will text him. Someone just said, I stupidly left my AirPod Pros in my pants and my husband who does the washing put them through a hot wash. No, that's your fault for leaving them in the pants.

Yeah, I think so too. Yeah. You can't blame him for it. My husband who does the washing. When you put something in the laundry basket or the washing machine, you are saying, wash this. You do the pre-checks.

It's not on whoever's doing the laundry to go through all the yuck washing. Yeah. Completely agree. Or I may have done something. I may have done something similar. Right. And then just put it outside in the air to dry and he hasn't noticed. I put Aaron's ear pods through a hot wash.

Sometimes they're fine. So Aaron sleeps with we both sleep with like listening to things. Not stand each other. Anything to escape the mundanity of life. Completely block out the other person's existence. Eye mask, ears, mouth taped shut.

Some Vicks under the nose so you can't even smell them. Anything. Don't touch me. If Aaron's brothers are listening, please don't say anything because he hasn't noticed. So I stripped the bed.

Yeah. Right, to put fresh sheets on, washed the sheets, pulled out the sheets and there was one of his ear pods in there, dripping wet. And I was like, well, that's ruined.

Put it outside. Dried. Put it back in the case, charged. I tried it quickly. Works absolutely fine. Oh, then that's fine. That night he got into bed, he put on his headphones. I was sort of like watching, being like, is he going to be like, man, this left one's a bit nothing.

A bit soggy. And this was like months ago. Oh, well, you've got away with it. Yeah, I know. And I shall continue to, please. Play ZM's Flesh, One and Haley's. I'm telling. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.

This week's theme for Fact of the Day are companies that do one thing that we're well aware of that started doing something completely differently. Oh, okay. What was Samsung's first foray into business? Oh, great. I'm guessing it wasn't televisions or telephones. It wasn't televisions. But the first thing they made when they became an electronics company was a black and white television set.

Okay. Because the guy who owned Samsung also owned a privately run radio and TV company. And so he was making the TV sets and then selling the TV sets so people could watch. He had it all. He had everything. That was their first foray into the electronics. But what did they first start out doing? Medical.

Nope. Cars. Not cars. Oh, like custard squares. Pull it right back. Something simple. What? Cooking.

Socks. We're getting closer. Oh, blenders. Not cooking, not appliances. Cookbooks. Flour. Sugar. Dried fish.

Dried fish. Warm in X-Gas. Dried fish. Dried fish. Warm in X-Gas. Dried fish. Dried fish. Samsung dried fish. Samsung dried fish. Yes. It downed dried fish in locally grown groceries and noodles.

Okay. It was like a food trading. Right. So how did it go from that to televisions and cell phones? Well, did you know Samsung stands for three stars? The word Samsung is three stars in Korean. Amazing.

Three being like this really special number like the powerful and stars. It's a favourite number. Three is your favourite number. Yeah. It's a lot of people's

favourite number, isn't it? Big, powerful. You're calling me common. Numerous. Yeah. Oh, I know there's something magical about the old number three. Yeah, three.

Stars stands for everlasting or eternal. Right. Eternal. So keep going. Yeah, three. STARS stands for everlasting or eternal, not internal. Eternal. So it kept going. Well, okay, so they started out doing dried fish, locally grown noodles, and some groceries. And then there was the Korean War that leaves Seoul.

And then after that, the guy, he bought the largest woolen mill in the country and started producing wool. And then he went into various different things. All under Samsung still. All under Samsung, yep. He'd give it fresh names each time. Yeah.

You know, stinky fish and then fluffy wool. Fluffy wool. No, no, they kept at it. And then later got into electronics later down the piece when it became. And apparently post-Korean War, there was a lot of encouragement to buy local and support the local companies and get them up and going again. Yep.

After a country's devastated by war, they'll often do this. And so the company's a great success. And then moved into electronics by doing the first black and white television. And then from there, we're just like, well, that's the future for us. And of course, now is the-

Now look at them go. Massive. He's doing everything. Started out with dry fish. Now that's where I put my dry fish in my Samsung fridge. Maybe they should do a little dried fish giveaway with the next Samsung Galaxy or the next fridge. Back to their roots, yeah.

Yeah, here's a complimentary parcel of dried fish. Comes utterly stocked with dried fish. Would the invention of the refrigerator eliminate the need for dried fish? I personally don't believe I've ever had smoked fish. Because dried fish is about preserving it for longevity. It lasts longer, take the moisture out of it, it doesn't go as rank, it's quick.

But I wonder if the fridge might be the thing I think I have dried fish. They've kind of shot themselves in the foot haven't they inventing the

you know having a great refrigerator. Well luckily they made some diverse business decisions and got out of dried

fish. I don't think they're regretting getting out of dried fish. I think Samsung's doing slightly better with televisions

and fridges. Than they were with dried fish. Yeah. Well that's just I'm just presuming I haven't seen the numbers. Why don't you have the numbers in'm just presuming I haven't seen the numbers.

Why don't you have the numbers in front of me? We don't. We don't have the numbers. We don't have the public report. We don't. Maybe they're still doing a thriving dried fish.

We don't know these things. We don't have the numbers. We simply don't know. So today's Fact of the Day and the first in that company does this, but it used to do that week, is that Samsung.

I feel like that could have been it. I was really like, that's the hardest part about doing fact that they was trying to succinctly sum up. A company that is known for one thing that used to do another. What about a company 180 week? It's not 180. I wouldn't even say dry, I wouldn't say the

opposite of dried fish as a television. You don't cross the circle from dried fish to television. And then turn around and go back to wet fish. You don't cross the circle from dried fish to television. And then turn around and go back to dried fish. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'll keep working on it.

Maybe by the end of the week we'll have something, but maybe by the end of the week we won't. But the first one is that Samsung, makers of fine electronics, started out doing dried fish and noodles. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. It begins in New Zealand tonight Maths Australia is back for another round of drama and delight

and you know I live for it and thank God we're on the phone with friend of the show at this point John Aitken, good morning John Good morning you three I'm very excited about this one, this is series 12 if you can believe it I can't believe it because I've watched them all. Now, John. Well, this one is going to leave you absolutely

speechless. We've got a fantastic cast. Yeah, but John, okay. So, we've been, because of the privilege of working in the media, we've been privy to a few episodes. Australia's ahead, so you have to watch out what you say to not do spoilers, John.

Can you do that? Yes. He just said this is season 12. He's a professional. I know, I know, I know. But John, I feel like even in the trailer alone for this season, drama. We have a couple married at first sight, know they've met before.

Yes, that's right. There's a number of different storylines you're going to get this year, which we haven't seen before. One of those is that typically we match strangers to see if they fall in love. This year, we've got a couple that actually knew each other. And, you know, it was a shock for us, but with Married at First Sight, we just lean into it. So we thought this is a different storyline. Let's see what happens here. What you're also going to see this year is the arrival of TikTok and the influence it has on the dating mindsets land on our show. So we have trad wives, traditional wives who want to be protected. They want to serve and they want someone who's very wealthy.

And then we've got our warriors with warrior mindsets who want to dominate. They want to make all the decisions and they want women with no ambition. So it is very extreme, the sort of mindsets that show up this year on the experiment and it makes them very hard to date. Do you put them together though?

That sounds like they're kind of after... Well, I mean, yes, we do. And there's more than one. I mean, this is one of the things about social media is that it promotes these very extreme mindsets that they kind of cherry pick and then they take with them. And they have this idea, everything, the grass is greener. And so they just swipe or dispose of people if they don't like it.

Yeah. How big is the change that you've seen in social media over the years in terms of how it's affecting just every, like you'd see this in your line of work, wouldn't you? Yeah, you do. And one of the great things about maths is it taps into the zeitgeist. So whatever's going on out there, whether it's TikTok and being a trad wife or getting in your masculine or femme role, or it's gaslighting, or it's speaking your truth,

or it's only fans, whatever's going on in the real world, it always shows up on the experiment. And yes, it's changed dramatically. People go to TikTok now for their education, to get their guidance, to get their dating mindsets rather than going to experts. So it's a very different role for us because on the show we really have to go hard at them to try and show them the error of their ways. I'm really looking forward to figuring out, oh, how much can I say?

So I think episode two is Elliot, right? Which is our, I don't want to paint him as the villain, but he has some controversial statements straight out the gate. Yes. He sort of, he sums up what we're talking about. He has a long list of non-negotiables. Yes. He is a long list of non-negotiables. Yes. He is uncompromising.

He wants someone who is essentially a 1920s housewife and is very, very particular about what he will and won't accept. And this becomes very difficult, not just for his partner, but also for the group to get their heads around. John, how close are you to giving up on humanity? I'm with him. He is with my friend. Well, you know what?

We always have a bit of love in there because the show is based on this premise of can our strangers get the fairy tale? And so that's always in there. But I tell you what, I was very shocked by one of the twists we give the show this year, which at the end, I guess we give them a challenge that throws temptation up in the face of the couples, and we sit back and watch to see whether they make good or bad choices. And unfortunately, a number of them make very bad choices. Sounds like that was a hot temptation.

I'm going to tell you, sounds like brilliant TV. Also, I have to say to our New Zealand watchers, unfollow Maths Australia on social media because the... How far ahead are they? I think you guys in Australia are up to like EPS 6 or something like that.

Is that right, John? We're about a week ahead. About a week ahead and we're ep 1 premiering tonight and I've had a couple of little things and when you say like shock bombshell stuff I've seen something just pop up on my social media today you know, producers getting it

I mean, this is, it's gold John, I love it so much and I also, I have big you know, I love and still love Lucinda from last season, but I have huge dreams for Katie. Don't say anything, whether or not those dreams come true. I don't like anything. We've got some very, very key players in the mix. I'll tell you one to look out for is our pocket rock at five foot two,

Greek blonde called Jamie. Great. She's sort of pretty much, I don't know if you remember Cyrel from Series 6. Oh, do I remember? Cyclone Cyrel. Jamie's got a lot of that going on. She's very forthright,

and she takes on anybody who crosses her. So she's one to look out for. Someone just messaged in saying, I've never watched maths, and it's never been my show to watch but after listening to this interview, I shall be tuning in. John, thank you so much.

Yeah, you're going to get a lot of different storylines. This cast is very relatable but hugely, I guess, hostile and unfiltered and I think you're going to love it. You're not going to be able to look away. As we always do, John. Thank you so, so much for joining us, getting up nice and early. We appreciate you very much, John. It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure, guys. You enjoy the series and hopefully I'll get to see you in person at some stage. Yes, come

back over, please. We'd love to have you. And Maths is on three and three now starting from tonight in New Zealand. Okay, so did we talk about this at all? Maybe on the podcast? I can't even remember. No, we kind of touched on it really briefly as it was happening. Yeah. You were trying to find some tickets.

I was trying to find some tickets. I've got seated tickets for Slipknot. Now. I said this last week. You are someone that went to the Wiggles R18 concert I went to Pink Troy Savan And this year I'm going to slip not on Metallica

You're all over the show And you wanted to go to James Blunt And I want to go to James Blunt You are the spectrum of music I love it So I've been looking for GA tickets, right? I was looking everywhere and my friend Shari, she was also looking and we found like a

ticket buy and sell, specifically for Slipknot. So we went on there A Facebook group. Facebook group. Went on there and one girl was like, I've got four GAs selling for a really low price like much cheaper than my seeded ones. You'd almost say too good to be true. You'd almost say it. My mumed ones. You'd almost say too good to be true.

You'd almost say it. That price. My mum's got a saying about things that are too good to be true. But it's a month away. And so I thought someone's probably just trying to get rid of them, right? Also, this is when we mentioned on air, Tixl. Tixl. So yeah, I messaged this person from Facebook

who has a real cutie, I'd say like late 20s, like sitting in the sun on a lawn with her sunnies on, you know, like just has a normal name, like Emma. And I messaged this Emma and I say like, hey, looking for 3GA tickets for Slipknot,

da-da-da-da, what you got? She's like, yes, available, do you have TickSoul? And we talked about TickSoul, which is this like secure thing to prevent getting scammed. It's a ticket resale app. And from all accounts, Trustpilot and from so many listeners said it's legit. It's legit. It's so that you can transfer money.

They can transfer the tickets. No one's getting scammed. And they have a guarantee as well. They've got a guarantee. So I was like, what scam is telling me to use Tixl? Yeah. So I download Tixl. We get it going.

130 bucks for the tickets. Da-da-da-da. This is the amount. Which, by the way, this is the too good to be true, because how much are tickets? Oh, mine, I spent like 200 per seat. Yeah, so GA would have been the same, right? Would have been the same.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So we've got a big discount here. I say three. Amazing. Great. She calls me. Yeah.

Remember? But I'm on air. So I say, I'm sorry, I'm at work. And she's like, it's so weird. Tixxle's not letting me list the tickets for more than $92. They're saying the maximum that Tixxle will let you resell for is $92. I was like, that's so weird. That's not a thing. No.

So then she was like, well, can I, why don't I upload them to Tixxle for $92 and then you transfer me the rest? And I was like, yeah! oh why don't I upload them to Tixl for $92 and then you transfer me the rest and I was like yeah you know here I come mosh pit so she was like great so it's going to be this amount of money on Tixl and the rest which is $114 can you do that through PayPal and I was like I think I've got PayPal open PayPal I haven't used PayPal in years open PayPal log in gives me an email address email address is not her name

it's different than her name ding ding ding number one it's someone else's name too isn't it well no it's just a weird like weird series

of letters and numbers okay put it in put in the email address and she said can you do it through friends and family option as opposed to the

other option so it clears immediately because otherwise it takes 21 days to be passed absolutely my girl as in can you do it so that you're not protected? Yeah, let's go. Let's go.

I go on PayPal. I put it in. PayPal is the one that alerts me and says, we think you may be getting scammed. And I was like, boom, like penny drops. Like, of course I am. Of course this is making sense. How did PayPal know?

What did you tell PayPal? Nothing. I put in her email address she provided me, which is Mount. Which might have been reported before. Yeah, then I put in friends and family. I clicked yes, and PayPal said no. We're not doing that.

You're getting scammed. And that's when I said to you, like, why didn't she just give you a New Zealand bank number? Yeah, so I asked. Like, hello? Like, then you get it in an hour. Yeah, and so I asked, like, can, why don't you just give me a New Zealand bank account?

And she was like, oh, is it okay if I send my friend's bank details to you? Now I'm like, oh, we're full scam. Here we go, full scam. Then she sends me a bank account number with the name of the account, A-Lennox. And we're like, we love the Euriplex. Annie Lennox?

Sweet dreams are made of this. I was like, oh my God, Annie Lennox is getting my $114. And then this is when you guys were like, let's call her. And so please listen and know that we called, plugged into the machine so that you'd be able to hear our interaction, but she ghosted me saying now she's at work and she can't listen. And I said, oh my God. But she's still texting almost immediately.

Immediately. And I said, oh, I just almost immediately immediately and I said oh I just wanted to ask about your friend Annie Lennox I'm a huge fan of the Eurythmics and then I said are you in Auckland I could just come and give you cash like this and then she sent a screenshot of Tixl saying hey your tickets have been verified

no date or time stamp no proof that they were for the concert I'm buying for nothing and she was like for assurance I said can you send me proof that they are for Sl concert I'm buying for, nothing. And she was like, for assurance, I said can you send me proof that they are for Slipknot? And she said, for assurance, can you give me half the money, then I'll send you proof. I was like, oh my god.

Just like, nearly had me. She was trying it on, she or he, whoever this person was. So much effort for how much money they were going to... $100. But that's also part of what makes you think it wouldn't be a scam because it's just a tiny

amount and you're still getting the tickets you assume it was like $57 now through PayPal and the rest after receiving the tickets really smart and I genuinely put the money through, PayPal was the one who stopped me I fell for it

and then I said to her, me thinketh, I'm being scammed. And she's like, I have never scammed anyone in my life. I will not take your money. And I said, all good. And I explained why she's a scam. She hasn't replied. I said, good luck.

So, I mean, I'll be sitting down. If your mum wants to go to Slipknot I'll just be aware that Yes The scams are out there even for Slipknot Well I went back on that buy and sell For these tickets and I said scam scam scam

Yeah But gotta be careful out there man They are so much more sophisticated than like You know like going the obvious route As you say this was so much effort for not that much money. Yeah, well, it's like you, Georgia, you fell for that. You thought Brad Pitt was in hospital and you gave him all your money. I did, honestly.

The things you've got to do for the ones you love. Slipknot, though, not really something I would fall for ever. But you know, that's why it's beautiful, the four of us in this room, we're all different. We are. And yet we all get along. We're all friendly acquaintances. Genuine friends, some of us, and work colleagues, others.

Loose acquaintances. Loose acquaintances. Is that the podcast done? Because I'm busting for a poos. Busting for a poos. Jesus. Give us a review.