ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 4th May 2026
Episode Date: May 3, 202600.00: Intro 02.05: The first twins to have two dads 08.30: Top 6 - Things to go on the NZ passport 13.10: People are using universe contracts 17.45: SLP - What is your laptop background 24.15: Met G...ala 28.27: Jetstar name wasn't their fault 31.52: Jazz Thorntan Interview 40.20: If money was no object, what are you doing out of spite? 50.51: Vaughan's ANZAC Biscuits 56.52: Hayley's nails have ruined her life 1.00.22: Fact of the day 1.05.34: What did you screw up as the trainee? 1.28.11: Flatpack Championship 1.31.20: What's your could've been rich story? 1.62.52: Spotify is adding a human verified button See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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From the ZM podcast network.
This is Fleshwin and Haley's Big Pod.
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ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Haley.
Thank you, Brin.
Good morning.
Fletchhorn and Haley.
Happy May the 4th.
And Star Wars Day, Baby.
Yeah, baby.
Star Wars Day, baby.
You guys have probably got big plans
for after the show for Star Wars Day.
You don't even know the size of the celebrations we're doing, bro.
Yeah, baby.
I'm dressing in tinfoil and having a lightsaber with a glad wrap roll
that I've spray painted green.
Cool, man.
Is that what you do?
Hey, I'm not here.
You celebrate how you want to celebrate this auspicious occasion.
Yes.
Celebrate.
Celebrate we will.
What is happening?
So unfortunately, apparently fact of the day all this week is Star Wars.
Correct.
Star Wars theme.
There should be only one nerd thing a year
because you've had Pokemon already.
Well, that paid huge dividends
when my Pokemon Lego set arrived.
So who knows?
Beam me up.
Beam me up, Fletch him, all right?
Ha ha.
You know what I mean?
Not funny.
Not peace be with you.
Free fuel continues this week.
Gassmi out returns at 8 o'clock this morning.
And I think we've given away now over $10,000.
So your chance to play and win at 8 o'clock this morning.
The top six soon, Vaughn?
Yeah, Donald Trump will be releasing a special Donald Trump edition U.S. passport to celebrate 250 years of America.
I like how in the news it's been like, well, if you want to quickly get a passport now, use up the old ones without his face.
Then for the next 10 years, you'll be safe.
Yeah.
God.
Ridiculous.
But the top six things we can put on our passport.
Next on the show.
You know, a lot of people make some odd discoveries when they do DNA tests.
There are twins in the UK that did this, and what they discovered is unbelievable.
Play Z-Ns, Flesh, One, and Haley.
Now, there are two twins, generally how twins work.
Yes.
They're named the Michelle and Lavinia.
They live in the UK.
And at the age of 49, they decided to do have some fun with an at-home DNA test.
Oh, oh.
Which can only ever go well if it's made the news.
So, you know, like, they weren't suspicious of anything.
They had their mother and their father,
and they weren't suspicious of anything.
They just thought it would be a bit fun.
They were just looking to see, you know,
do I have some fun, spicy Hawaiian,
or is my Norway down, like yours is Fletch, that kind of stuff?
My Norway's gone.
You've entirely lost your Norway.
Nothing excite.
I know the list is wait with baited breath.
Every time we have to open our Ancestry.com app
to see if we've got up or down 1%
and anything mildly exciting.
It's like listening to somebody describe their dreams.
It sounds like fun to the person telling it,
but no one else gives a shit.
But with that in mind,
let's open her up.
I just looked, I'm not,
all I am is English and Scottish and Welsh.
No, Scottish and Irish.
Yeah, nothing.
That's so white.
Do you remember when I was a little bit Spanish,
Iberian Peninsula?
Yeah, we love that.
We love that.
My Swedish is up three.
I'm at 3% Swedish.
How are you up Swedish?
You're very white, I guess.
I'm here, I'm sorry, I'm just logging in.
Everything else very white.
Yeah, okay.
Celtic, Gaelic, England.
Yeah, no, they're still the same.
Mardi Hawaiian.
Anyway, so they did this.
They were having a laugh, having a little laugh, you know, like us.
And then they discovered, they don't have the same dad.
Are they identical twins?
they look quite similar? They can't be. They must look similar, but they can't be identical.
They look similar, very similar. No, they always thought that they were
fraternal. It's either fraternal or paternal.
Right. Whatever one. They were just twins. They shared
the womb. And this is, this has only been recorded
20 times worldwide, never in Britain, and
the twist is that they didn't even know. And here's the other twist. So the guy
that's their dad isn't either.
of their dads.
What?
So these twins grew up with mum and dad.
Dad is not only not their dad, he's neither of their dads.
They had two different dads.
It's called, it's...
Please explain, Mum.
So not even their dad is either of their dads.
Wow.
Okay, Mum isn't trouble.
Mum's getting funky, right?
It's called heteropaternal super fecundation.
Superfecundation.
That's what I always called it.
Yeah, another thing for the heteropeternal.
Tros?
Yeah, well, thank you're welcome.
Yeah.
Grazieus.
Oh, blurry these days.
Women, it happens
when a woman releases multiple eggs,
you know, so you get one egg per cycle,
but sometimes, apparently,
you can release multiple eggs.
Yes.
And then you have sex with two different men
within a 12-hour fertile window.
So the chances,
because your fertile window,
like the fact that we exist is a miracle,
when you break down how it happens.
Yeah.
There's a small fertility window.
This is even smaller,
and then the fact that there was two eggs,
tiny window, and then had sex
with two different people within 12 hours,
and they both were successful pregnancies.
So in the womb, there they were, together.
So what has there been, like, has dad chimed in?
He didn't know.
But was he...
But dad was obviously around at the time, right?
in some kind of pregnancy window
not maybe the 12-hour window
but he was there.
Yeah. We don't
slut shame but mum was getting busy
and she was not wrapping it up.
Like there was no, we were just
getting crazy for a day.
I'm going to be honest, mum sounds like a hoarse.
Party girl.
Yeah. So these women
are 49 and they've made this discovery.
Yeah. I'm mum and dad even around?
Yeah, yes.
So mum's alive. So,
so mum's alive.
So they are sisters
Because the same mom
Same mom
Yeah
Um
Um
Um
Um
Um
One of the twins found out
That her dad
His name is Alex
She found him
He's like homeless
And um
A drug addict and whatnot
And then the other one
Dad
I'd be like
Papa
It's me
And then the other one
And he's like
Got a 20
Got a 20
You got me crap
Yeah
I don't get who you are
Go ahead
Give me some crack
And the other one
Found out
That her dad's name
is Arthur and he has glaucoma, but they hang out.
The eyes thing.
So he can't even see his daughter?
He can, but she's wearing?
No, he can't see her.
Oh, my God.
Isn't this just the wildest story?
And then there's poor dad's there.
The one that is biological, has raised them.
Has raised them.
It's just like, oh, well, okay.
Who am I now then?
I mean, you're the dad.
You raise them.
But holy moly.
I'm sorry, but like, you do this test.
and then what do you run to the local media?
I'm just everything about this is confusing.
Or did they jump on TikTok or something?
And that's how this story's kind of made the news.
Even that, I would just keep this to myself.
It'd be different if your dad,
you found your actual biological father as a billionaire
and you're like, oh, and he's like,
well, I didn't have any of the children.
I've been looking for something to do with all these billions.
So there was a, there's a BBC radio podcast called The Gift,
which the whole podcast is about fallout stories from DNA.
Wow.
Oh wow.
I can that sounds like a good podcast, eh?
That would be a great podcast.
And so the whole episode is these twins.
Yeah, yeah.
So they discover this a couple of years ago
and it's been talked about now
because this episode just dropped over the weekend.
Okay, I've got to listen to this.
What's it called again?
The Gift.
It's called The Gift.
It's a BBC Radio podcast.
Oh, and you know they'll have posh British accents.
Welcome to the BBC gift.
Welcome to the BBC.
Today, two women.
Today, one worry.
The tale.
Three fathers.
Wow.
Definitely sounds like that's worth a listen.
Wild.
The Ben-N podcast network.
From your local community Facebook page, this is the Top Six.
Well, the American passport is going to see Donald Trump plopped on it for the 250th.
Not on the front.
It'll be a page inside.
And a page of one of the inside pages.
It's not even, it's not even a flatter.
No, yeah.
Is it a sketch?
Yeah, it's a sketch.
Like, for a man that's, you know, so egotistical,
I would have been like, doll me up a bit.
Yeah, yeah, pull it all time.
He's kind of like looking down and he just looks old
and they're like double chinny and...
Yeah, he's got a lot of flaps on his face.
He's flappy, eh, which is...
I just can't believe he's kind of ticked it off, let it happen.
Anyway, I've got the top six things we can jam on our passport
if we're just chucking random things on.
We've got a good insight.
Side our passport's quite good.
I don't like the cover because the Fern's not
scented. You've got a real problem with that, eh?
It really shits me.
Oh, babes.
You know the Swiss have a nice passport.
Red?
No, I like ours. I like ours.
It's classy.
Black and silver.
Yeah, it's not scented.
It's a bit goth-y.
It's quite goth.
Yeah, it is.
What is the Swedish?
Did you say Swiss or Swedish?
Swish.
The Swish.
The Swish.
Why?
What about theirs do you like so much?
Because I love traveling and like saying
I just love traveling but I always love a bit of a pervice
I think the British have got a nice passport
They've got a beautiful red passport
It looks like it
It looks like some kind of hipster notebook
You see at one of those like stores
It sells like knickknacks
Yeah yeah nice
It's a very nice looking passport
Yeah right
Okay well if we're just chucking things on
Willie Nelly
Here's the top six things we can put on our passport
Number six on the list Huntley
not the chimney's just the main street
Right
Just what a sketch of the Huntley main street
Just sketch of the Huntley main street
With the Decker sign maybe
Why wouldn't you do the
I sort of thought we decided to forget about them a bit
You know what I mean?
We bypassed and we're just leaving them there
Lest we forget
Well I think you'd put the chimneys
Wouldn't you?
Well if we can get the right angle of the deck
I need it to be factual though
The Decker sign
Okay
Yeah
Okay
Number five on the list of the top six things
We can put on our passport
Fuel
Fuel prices
Did you forget to do the top six four?
No, we're doing things that aren't great about the country.
Guys, come on.
Donald Trump putting himself on it.
I'm re-between the lines.
How dare you say that about Huntley?
That's great for it.
That's a great part of our country.
Good morning to our Huntley.
9-6-96 as well if you're in Huntley.
We just like to check.
Well, they've all turned off.
You're glad that it's bypassed.
I'm glad that it's bypassed, but I don't wish for it.
For travel time purposes anyway?
Exclusively.
What about fuel prices?
That's a sort of a bummer at the moment.
But it's ever changed?
It changes every day.
We can't get new passports every day.
They're like hundreds of dollars.
Let's just put it up at five bucks.
Just be stopping silly.
Well, number four on the list of the top six.
Some things we could put on our passport, a little sign saying don't storm in this river.
It's full of, it's dirty.
What, did you?
He didn't, he didn't do the top six.
He didn't want me to put a picture.
We didn't do the top.
He forgot.
It's giving big theater improv group.
It's giving improv.
It's giving improv.
It's giving improv.
He forgot.
Number three on the law.
a one-way ticket to Australia.
He forgot the top six was coming up.
He forgot.
He has.
What did you want me to put on it?
But mountains and stuff.
It's right.
It's right on.
It's a tough Monday.
He went out and he did have a big night.
We had a concert night.
I know you guys socialised over the weekend.
Stop doing that when I'm not there.
I always want to play.
Well, you were playing elsewhere.
I always say, can Vaughn come out and play?
And there's always no.
And then you go out and play and I can't.
I'm not there.
What were we supposed to do?
Put our lives on hold for you?
You already knew the answer.
You see you asked the question
you had the answer literally on your lips.
Okay, the top six are other things
we could put it in the passport.
As improvised by Vaughn.
As improvised.
Number two on the list,
a house for sale for a really high price
that's also leaky.
Man, number one on the list of the top six.
That's crazy.
What a hot take.
No one's ever made that observation.
About New Zealand house prices.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
What's number one?
Broken scooter outside the dairy.
Oh my God.
Born, you knew the top six was coming up later in the hour.
Look, I hadn't put a lot of thought into it.
What?
You don't say.
What?
You don't say.
Blow your mind.
Hey, guys, that's the ASTOP 6.
Play Z-N's Flesh, One and Haley.
Haley, you're broadcasting from our Christchurch studio this morning?
Certainly am.
Did the gala's over the weekend and last night was the Christchurch gala.
First time the Comedy Fest Gala has been back in Christchurch in 10 years.
Did they behave?
Do you know what?
Oh, God.
Christchurch has the best crowds.
They were just electric, man.
They're just so cool.
Wellington right there.
Yeah, you were just in Wellington.
Well, Wellington was amazing, man.
Saturday night was so cool.
But I don't know.
There was something about last night.
It was very cool.
But yeah, I am.
I'm in Christchurch, six degrees.
I walked here from the hotel.
Okay.
Oh, it was lovely.
It was lovely.
It was lovely.
Woke you up.
Yeah, it was.
It was brusk.
I'm feeling, so I'm feeling very inspired at the moment
because I'm in my creative flow.
Also, there was the moon.
The moon was full.
Beautiful moon over the weekend.
Yeah.
Full.
Yeah.
Yeah.
People should take more photos of it and put it on Instagram.
Yeah.
Because they all look so good.
I reckon if you just Google,
a photographer's probably taking a photo of it that night,
rather than your iPhone, like, zipped in.
that just looks like a white circuit, but so good.
So happy to see it.
But with the power of the moon at the moment, guys,
I think you're going to hate this form.
With the power of the moon at the moment,
and we're hitting the midway mark of the year,
you might be realizing you're not really getting much out of this year,
or it's not going the way that you wanted it to go.
Enter the universe contract.
The what?
The universe contract.
Well, I don't like this either.
I almost need some, like, hippie-dippy music almost.
So this is, well, listen, it's a TikTok trend.
But stay with me because this is very much.
the way that my family lives.
Power of the universe, a universe contract.
Okay.
It's a mindset where you believe that the universe is going to reward you
with a pleasant surprise whenever you do something
maybe hard or boring or that you've been putting off for a long time.
Different to like risk and reward where you go,
I'll work hard and then I get a little treat.
Okay, we've got some happy music.
Yeah, this is good.
gorgeous.
So it's not the same as treating yourself, everyone.
The reward comes organically from the universe.
it's a cause and effect belief system
you do your end the universe
it's going to hold up theirs
No
How long do you have to wait
Because I like to do a little work
And then give myself a little treat
No that's a different one
That's little treaties
That's a different thing
This is you
The frame me out as a contract
Because the best way to do it is to write it down
So these are the things
that I need to achieve at the moment
Big or small
So wait
What you're basically just saying
Is make some goals
Sorry can I just get you to sort of
To serve the voice a bit
I'm just going to, I'm just going to save the voice a bit.
It does say, ma.
It seems like when you're writing it down, you're more wary of what you're doing.
Yes, so the reward is the completion of task itself.
Absolutely.
This is what they used to call a to-do list.
It is a to-do list, but it is, it's about going,
what is the universe going to give you back and return?
So say you're doing something, like, so someone did an example of this on TikTok,
and it's very relevant to me.
They returned something to a store that they,
had been putting off for a long time.
Now, you know that I bought a dress.
I was gas-lamped into buying a dress in Australia,
and then I was putting off, taking it back
because it was a task I didn't want to do.
So instead of being like, I don't want to do this and putting it off,
you reframe it in your contract, you write it down as,
if I do this, I'm making space for the universe to reward me.
And I believe this, man, I'm a lucky girl.
I love a to-do list.
Don't get me wrong.
Nothing rules more.
Weekend to-do list than you.
Even if you only tick off 80% of it,
You're like, look at all these things I got done.
Yeah, you achieve.
I know, but then you reward yourself, right?
You're like, now I've got time I can sit on the couch,
but what is the universe going to reward you with for?
What have you made space for when you've ticked things off?
I think if you're sitting on the couch that I'm rewarding myself with.
It's a positive mindset, and what I'm getting from you is not a positivity.
No, I'm very positive.
It's not coming across as that.
Someone said I'm sounding a bit woo-woo like Jackie O this morning.
Now, I would never talk to you like that.
I'll walk
It's a bit woo-woo
It's a bit woo-woo
It's just a
Listen I'm not
I'm not a spiritual person really
But the power of positive thinking
There's something to be said for it
Right
And if you need to reframe it in your mind
As a contract with the universe
Why not?
If it makes you get things done
And then you invite positivity
Into your life
Absolutely woo-woo
Okay
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Fleshfallen and Haley
Well, this week
We're giving you the chance to win
And our silly little poll is all thanks to Maccas
It's 6558
Mmm
That's clever
Clever, clever
And we're giving away a month's worth of Maccas
Did I go home after the Crushidge Gallo last night
And realised that I wanted a snack wrap in a fillet of fish?
Yeah, did I go to Maccas after Mumford and Sons
Yeah
Did you?
I did, yep, Mike and I, of course Mike and I did
Nugs?
Nugs?
Of course.
he were nugs. He was a quarter P as well.
Hey.
Have you tried the, um,
no, I'm hungry, man.
Did you, have you tried the sticky Korean dip
that they've got at the moment?
No, but I will.
I certainly will.
I certainly will.
Well, I hash brown, a McMuffin and you,
welcome to the AM.
A.M.
A.m.
So all you want to do is vote on our silly little poll
to be into win in Vornell pick one each morning.
Yep.
What do you have is your laptop background is today,
silly little poll?
Something custom photos of friends, family,
Or one of the default images offered.
Now phones,
phones you're customised, but actually, so I just never bother.
No, but phones, when someone doesn't customize their phone
and they've got, you know, the Earth.
The globe.
On an iPhone, or they've just got this.
Color swoop.
Yeah, I'm just like, what are you doing?
That's your phone.
Yeah, you look at it every day.
I guess I'm also, my laptop's got like a photo I've taken of a mountain.
My iPad is just, is their default factory color swoosh.
And I don't know why I just never got around to changing it
Because I'm like, interesting
Yeah, so maybe I'm guilty of this and I just see it a lot
No
You just open it out the iPad
You're whipping it out and opening up an app
Whereas your phone you pull out
You check your time
You're constantly seeing it's all there
Yeah
Some people
I don't just had to go and check on this laptop
This work laptop
And it's just the default thing of some vineyard or something
Because again I've always got something open on this
It's never just sitting on the desktop
I think both my work and my personnel adjacent
It's just a lovely thing to it.
Get your eyes over.
How do the lovers
take that?
She's not whipping out her bloody
black type
to show them some work stuff, is she?
I think you understand
when you look at it.
It's Jason Mamois smising
while like gobbing a carrot.
I mean like who,
I don't think there's justification needed.
He's like gobbing it as in like half the carrot.
He's in the country.
Is he filming at the moment?
Because I saw a street in Auckland shut
with an upturned bus.
It looked very Minecraft.
Oh really?
Yeah, they are filming.
It looks very cool.
Does that mean Jack Black will be here too?
I'd say so.
Friend of the show.
I'd say so.
Maybe.
I would have to get our lads in studio.
I wonder if he's still wearing a ZM crock gibbets.
Oh yeah, that's right.
We put an unauthorized.
Unauthorized.
We had a cease and desist.
We had a cease and desist.
Do you think they want to come back to my comedy show, do you think?
Well, you can invite them.
You could flip them in an invite.
What do you have as your laptop background?
46% of people said something custom.
them 54% said one of the default
images offered to me as a service.
Bruce says Star Wars backgrounds on all my devices,
computers, tablet and phone, and happy Star Wars Day.
May the Fourth be with you. Happy May the Fourth.
May the Fourth be with you. A, Vaughan, look.
That's Star Trek. I mean, equally, fantastic.
Beam me up, Chewy.
Not quite right. Punch it, Chewy. Very close.
Punch me, Scotty.
No, no. M says,
we play a game at work every morning to guess we're in the world.
each other's Microsoft photo is
it probably brings us more joy than work itself.
Oh, that's actually cute.
That's cute. Because it just watches through a whole bunch.
My shuffle through. Oh, yeah, nice.
Lou said, it's a work laptop, so many things
are always open. I never see the actual
background. Yeah. Just like you.
Natalie, because working
in health care is grim, so my background is a sunset
in Maui, so I can disassociate
vividly. I like that. Do you think
it's her sunset in Maui?
Yeah, nice. Or just a generic?
Yeah. Logan, my PC at home has
sexy pink and blue scheme with its background tower and keyboard LEDs.
My worktop background is a picture I took on Amsterdam because I'd rather be there than it
work.
Yeah, good.
I like that.
Ash says default images slash messages relevant to the organisation I work for because it's boring.
It's hallo boring.
I want to spice up her.
Spice up her day with the giveaway.
Would you? Would you like to?
Yeah, I'll give that one.
That's the one that's going to get the prize.
Good boy. A month's worth of Macas. Well done.
Yeah, that'll spice up your life.
Why not with your boring background?
With your boring work backgrounds that you're not allowed to change.
My old work laptop said,
every day is a good day and people would regularly walk past my desk and say,
Today isn't.
Briar, this poll made me realize I have lost a little whimsy,
and I need to personalise my laptop background.
I'd like to everyone.
Lost a bit of whimsy.
Find their whimsy today.
Get the whimsy back.
That's so good.
They're all about the whimsy.
Yeah.
Louise said black.
It has to be black.
The icons that have pop.
They have to pop, pop, pop, pop, it's a pure black background.
Black?
I've never seen that.
Why not?
It's very dark, isn't it?
Connor said your mum.
Connor.
How did he get a fin of Christine?
All of our mums?
Or who was he replying to?
Have you got, like, you've compiled that
because our three mothers have never been in the same room at the same time.
No, they haven't.
Muntage.
Muntage.
Mention if we got all of our mums in a room together.
That'd be weird.
Oh, it's Mother's Day this weekend.
Oh, yeah, it is.
Yeah.
My background would be like, I'm too bloody busy for that silly.
Oh, yeah.
Too bloody, silly.
My mother would be like, oh God, do you two have to put up with the same shit?
Them using us as content all the time?
God, we should get a cut of their salary.
Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Carolyn said my background is in of an office with an empty wall shelves
and an empty desk, and I move my icons to sit on the shelves.
And there's a rubbish bin under my desk, and that's where you drag it to put the actual.
Okay, that's kind of cool.
That's kind of cool.
You love that.
Man, I tell you what, Ash is lucky.
She won that Mac as before,
because otherwise, Carolyn would have got it
if I got through right to the end.
So, for Sylvia, Paul, we ask,
what do you have is your laptop background,
and 54% of you have one of the default images offered.
Play.
Play, Z-Ns.
Fletch, one in Haley.
Now, let's get ready for the Met Gala.
It's happening.
I can't believe this.
It's Star Wars Day,
and we're talking about the Met Gala.
You will have your time.
I don't believe the theme of Star Wars.
No.
That'd be a pretty cool MetGarlet phone.
Who's the woman in charge?
And a winter.
Were you about to say Annie Hathaway?
No, not Annie Hathaway, but they'll be there.
Big Devil Wears Prada crossover because in Devil Wears Prada, the Met, it's like happening at the Met.
Yeah.
Anyway, so red carpet arrivals start from 9.30 a.m. New Zealand time tomorrow.
And then you'll be able to start watching coverage and all that kind of stuff.
So the theme this year, I just love the Met.
And I know it's frivolous and stupid
and people spend money on crap
and there's a war and I'm also just like
it's just fashion, it's just art.
So the theme is costume art
with the dress code, fashion is art.
What does that mean?
I know so.
I know. People are already debating
whether or not it's like brilliantly open-ended
and it's going to allow all the designers
to, you know, interpret it in really exciting ways
or if it's like real vague
and you're going to get a stupid mixed bag of crap.
The CEOs, like the chairs of it, it changes every year.
It's Anna Wintour every year.
But this year it's Beyonce, Nicole Kidman and Venus Williams.
Okay.
Where's in that meeting room?
And the guest list is all right,
because that's why rumours have already started this weekend.
Celebrities have been seen in New York.
You don't know who's going, but people start to figure it out.
They start to figure it out.
we know because they're on the host committee.
Sabrina Carpenter, Doja Cat, Sam Smith,
Zoe Kravitz, so we now assume Harris Stiles as well,
who hasn't been for years.
And Gwendolyn Christie, you know, Breanne of Tath.
Oh, Game of Thrones, yeah.
From Game of Thrones.
Jeff Bezos and his wife are the lead sponsors.
I think they had a bit of extra coin to chuck around.
Do you know what?
Wait, did he marry that lady?
Yeah.
Sheard Bezos.
Do you remember in...
Lauren Sanchez Bezos?
Italy and they didn't...
That's right.
They were tone death.
That's right.
Yeah.
And everyone was there, all the celebs and stuff.
So do you know, if we wanted to go, my dear friends.
I absolutely don't.
I would.
Even if I got invited, I'd be like, I know that.
Yeah, if there was some world where they were like, do you want to come?
I'd be like, no.
This, for example, we're going to be in Paris at the same time later in the year.
And I said, we must go to the Moulon Rouge.
It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.
I had tickets in the cart for Fletch
and then I said you know you just need a college shirt
and he said I don't want to go
I did because of the college shirt
No you need you need to dress up
And I'm like
Dress pants and a college shirt and I'm like going on a holiday
With dress pants and a college shirt and shoes
No that's not his own a holiday
It's not me it's not my type of fun
I would say no there's nothing about the Met Gala
Should like you say
In this weird world of a parallel universe
Or I'd be invited I'd still be like no thanks
But not if I told you that you could get a ticket
We could buy a ticket
and it would only cost us $75,000 USD dollars.
So it's over 100,000 just to attend.
So also, okay, here's the highly expected regulars.
Rihanna Asap Rocky, Kylie Kendall,
Haley Bieber, Lady Gaga, Zendaya, Doa Leap, Chapel Rhone, Annie Hathaway,
Annie Hathaway, Emma Stone, Bad Bunny, Jacob, a Lordy Dochey.
Like it's just, it's the kill kits.
That's a who's who's, hey.
It's a who's-hous-who, hey.
It's a who-s-hous. Harry Style, just the singular,
has not been since 2019
but because Zoe's involved in the committee
they're thinking.
He's getting dragged along.
He's getting dragged along
because the event he doesn't want to go to.
He's like, I just want to say it over my trackies.
I'm excited for it because fashion is art being the theme.
I think people could go really extreme with it,
you know, and we could have some sort of mad looks.
So tomorrow this will all start.
Tomorrow morning.
So you'll get to work and you just tell your boss,
I'm working.
You can have the met on with the rest of.
carpet and keep up with that.
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Is this a show real?
Play ZN's Flesh, Foran and Haley.
Well, Jetstar are in the news.
They've had to defend
an email that a woman
received for flights for shipwob.
So this is, I don't know if you...
I saw this.
This is so funny.
News story of the year. It's so great.
So Tracy is a
woman in Hamilton, Tracy Thompson.
She booked flights
with her husband to the NRL
grand final, hoping that the
Warriors are going to be in the
final. I tell you what is a great year. Up the Waz
another, the WIT of the Games, the Eels
of the weekend. Hell of a roll of the boys are
on, up the Waz. So, she's got
flights from Hamilton to Sydney, and she
got one of those emails, you know, the airlines
will always, you book a flight it's months away
and they'll email you saying, here's your
itinerary. Do you
want a rental car?
Yes. Add on insurance.
Have you got a hotel yet?
Well, she received her email from Jetstar.
that said, Dear Tracy Fing C.
I have not said those words.
But they were written out in full.
Yes, they were written out and fell after her name.
Dear Tracy effing C.
And C being the biggest C that you can think of.
Yes.
Yeah, the biggest C word that I can't say on the radio.
They go on to say...
You shan't say it.
We're sorry to let you know that the flights on your booking have changed.
Your new flight details are below for the passengers.
I'm not reading anything after Dear Tracy Fing Cefing C.
Dear Tracy effing C.
So she called the airline to say, hey.
I'll show you who's a fish and ship.
Yeah, that's not my name.
Those aren't my last names.
And apparently they investigated.
Jetstar that's investigation indicated
that Thompson's contact name had been updated through her account
with the system automatically using it on email communication.
So there's nothing by the sounds of it stopping.
Maybe there is now.
Maybe they've changed it now.
but there's nothing stopping you changing somebody's last name
if you have their account to a swear word.
And their email communications will email it out to you.
So someone who knows her did this.
Well, she's left it logged on somewhere and someone thinks it's a, okay.
What do they say?
She's saying that she's further to their investigation and said,
well, what IP address and when was this done?
Oh.
And they weren't able to.
I'm assuming they might be able to.
I might be to say the date that it was changed.
Well, she's saying I haven't done it.
She doesn't know.
It's a bloody prank.
It's pretty funny.
It's just left to lobbed on somewhere and someone's had a bloody laugh.
Yeah, well, she said they don't know who changed it.
And she says, I don't know who changed it.
But yeah, I think they've kind of ended it there.
And I don't know if they'll have some filters on their email lists from now on.
Yeah.
You might have to give her a $20 airport sandwich voucher.
Do you know what I mean?
I reckon it was a voucher.
So funny.
That's some shocking swear words.
That's so funny though.
Like, what would you?
You'd just be in utter disbelief.
So what is she...
I don't know, because you have to fill out the details once you're in there to get the tickets, right?
It wouldn't by default have that name printed on a ticket.
These are just the email that's...
Right, just...
In her profile.
But you'd think it would email the name and the ticket, right?
I don't know how it was, but, yeah.
But F and C might be her married name.
She hasn't updated her pastoral.
She married a Mr. C.
Miss that, me, yeah.
Mr. F and C.
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Play ZN ZN's Flesh, Forn and Haley
The wonderful Jazz Thornton,
mental health advocate,
podcast presenter, content creator
She's in studio, hi Jazz
Hi, and I just, we're gonna just pause for a quick
On your apology.
Vaughn, take it away.
I have, there's a smell in this studio,
Fletch ate some, um, tuner.
Oh, don't you dear.
Don't you throw me under the boat?
No, I had a little breakfast tuner.
Yeah.
Apologies.
It's okay. I forgive you.
Thank you.
There's a little bit churnery in here.
We've lit a candle.
A little bit fichy.
A little bit fushy.
Now it smells like tuna, coconut, sandalwood or something.
Perfect.
It's actually my new fragrance.
Is that available at the chemist warehouse?
Yes, it is.
Okay, right, good.
No, I don't think it is.
Now, Jase, thank you so much for coming in to talk to us about your new project.
So, I mean, you've done such amazing work over the years, creating content,
and a lot of it based around mental health.
targeted at young people in particular, which is so great.
Your podcast, I am hope, is brilliant.
And now you have a show, three-part series, I believe, called Stalked.
Yeah.
That it's on tonight, 830 on Sky Open and then streaming on neon, I believe.
And just to add to everything that you've been through in your life and all of it,
you, it's about your experience of stalking.
You in particular being stalked.
Yeah, yeah, a man from,
literally, I think as far away as you can get from New Zealand
in the Netherlands, flew 18,000 kilometres to find me.
Jesus.
My house.
Yeah.
It was, I don't recommend.
I love watching true crime, hate being the true crime.
Yeah.
It is generally agreed upon.
When did this happen?
It was May 24.
Wow.
Oh, that's really recent.
Yeah, it was, it was really, really recent.
and the only reason I talked about it
it was literally the day after my guy
finally left the country
was because the petition came out
to make stalking illegal the day after he left.
So let's talk about that.
So this happens and then you call the police
and then that's when you figure out
that stalking's not illegal in New Zealand.
Yeah, yeah, the police are in my house
and they're like, hey, this is actually crazy
but there's not a lot we can do.
But we don't think you should stay in your house
because we don't know what this guy's intentions are.
So now it's a you problem.
Literally.
But then eventually, like this guy does get arrested because he escalates and they were like,
hey, there's a chance he might like take you out and take himself out as well.
But even still, because he had it directly said that, they just believed that was his intention.
They were like, we have to like let him go, but we'll install cameras around your house and good luck.
Good luck.
Yes.
Wow.
I think that would shock so many people
that that, you know, that that's not a law
and there's not more in place in New Zealand.
Oh, I was shocked.
I had no idea.
And then I realised like Australia's had it as a law for 20 years.
And we've just been like, it's just police can't do anything.
So there is a law now or there's going to be?
May 26.
That's been passed.
And I don't know why there's a gap between it being passed and then it being.
They've got to update all those law books.
They're just going to let all the stalkers know,
hey guys, rules are changed.
Knock it off.
Knock it off.
Give them a sort of a knock it off period.
You've got three weeks.
Was it a case of just kind of,
this might be a stupidly naive question,
but Australia dealt with it 20 years ago
because of a large,
a high profile case of stalking and we hadn't had one or?
No, we have had multiple.
We had a young woman quite a few years ago
who died from her stalker
after reporting it multiple times.
And we've had it, I mean, after I started to share my story,
I had thousands of New Zealanders.
reaching out who have had experiences with it.
And I thought it was like, I mean, we just watched
Baby Rainier the week before mine happened.
Oh, God.
Jeez.
TV and like movies and whatever.
But no, it's literally everywhere.
And so what is the law
going to do?
Like what does it say?
It's obviously illegal.
What are the penalties?
You can get up to five years in prison for it.
And it's for two, lots of unwanted
contact or kind of stalking behavior within two years.
So it's quite a, like, it's quite a,
solid law. So when this comes out
if don't
muck around on reporting the first time
because you're saying it's a two strike situation
within two years so you want it
on record. Yes absolutely
but people are often afraid to report it because
I feel like you're being dramatic or like even though
my guy was outside my house
and I was like from Amsterdam
from Amsterdam and I'm like am I being
dramatic and calling the police like
I don't know so yeah you just need to
report and so it started off
jazz with just some obsessive messages
from him. Yeah, it was, he discovered me three weeks prior, sent a whole bunch of messages. Yeah,
like, I'm so obsessed with you and you don't even know it. Message my housemate saying, I want to come
find her the next day, message saying, I've booked a flight, I'm coming. And then he used a mixture
of social media and Google Earth and found my house within 24 hours of being in the country.
Jeez. Yeah, it's, it's, I mean, it's so hard because it's with any kind of thing like this,
often will say so women what you need to do
is not do this and not post this
and not post this and it's like no no men
what you need to do is not stalk us
yeah please yeah
because I've never been stalked
but I did have a hand delivered letter
to my house once from a guy
where it was a sexually you know
intense thing and I remember
for some reason he left his phone number on it
and so my partner at the time called him
and was like the hell are you doing
coming to our house
He said, well, you're on the electoral roll.
I was like, that's not what it's there for, man, to find my address.
I'll also say, Haley, that is giving stalker.
The fact that he went and found it and then turned up to your house and handled a little letter.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We doubt with it in the moment, though.
But it's like, why do I have to remove, why do you have to have cameras installed and do this and change this and don't have your address online?
Why do you have to do that?
Yeah.
It's no, me problem.
You're stalking me.
He's 18,000 kilometres away.
Yeah.
So what's happened with him?
He's gone home and no repercussions to him?
Yeah, no.
The police did like an interpol request to find out information about him,
which I was not allowed to know the information because of his privacy, obviously.
But what I then found out, cheers, jazz.
We simply must respect someone's privacy who was showing no respect for anybody else.
Yes.
All I knew is that security on my house went crazy.
The commander was calling me.
Every officer in the country knew.
and then they stalked him back
until he left the country
because they still couldn't,
they think he's going to take me out
and they still can't deport him
and so yeah there was no repercussions
that I know of but I also don't know
what his history was overseas
and I'm assuming he's got a flag on his name
if he ever comes back. Yes. Yes.
Okay great. Thank goodness.
Chas I mean we have, this is a lovely chat with you
but I'm so sorry this happened to you
and I just think it's amazing that you have
you're using your life to share
a lot of the awful stuff that has happened to
you to change and for other people to hear you and to speak out against stuff because you're
not being dramatic.
Yeah, thank you because what you do is amazing.
Thank you so much.
That means a lot.
So, stork.
What was the highlight of your weekend to end on a positive night?
Yeah.
You're going to say the highlight of the stalker.
I don't imagine.
What was the highlight of your experience?
A light of the weekend is this tuna smelling studio.
Oh.
Oh, it's a weekday now, isn't it?
You're welcome.
She's been through enough for no.
and you come in here with your tuna mount.
Yeah, you guys are like, oh, boo, I have to smell fish.
Yeah, someone flies my hands at that.
Oh, okay, so it's a three part.
Yes.
And it's going to obviously deal with this situation
in other people's experiences.
Yes, the other two will infuriate you.
My police were incredible with me.
One of them got kidnapped from their stalker.
So it's heavy.
It's so crazy.
Okay, so it'll be over three consecutive nights.
Sky Open premieres to nine.
night at 8.30 and all
episodes available on Neon as well
from today. Yes. So yeah, check
it out, Jazz Thornton. Thank you so much.
Thank you for having me.
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Play ZM's Fleshhorn and Haley.
What do in her now if money was no object,
what would you do out of spite?
If you won like some insane
Powerball and you had some grudges
or you just had a good sense of humor
or you wanted to mess with people,
you could have a lot of fun.
Because a man's found a,
community online.
Well, he's kind of founded the community online
because if he said if we won the big US lottery,
he'd buy LinkedIn,
the entire, you know, social media.
Those ones are insane.
The US lotteries.
Yeah, hundreds of millions of dollars.
But sometimes they don't pay it all out.
They'll pay chunks.
Trip feed you for your life.
Yeah.
Or you take a drastically reduced bulk payment.
And they get taxed as well,
whereas our lot of winnings aren't taxed.
No tax.
But I mean, yeah, you still get millions of dollars.
So he said he'd buy LinkedIn and turn it off.
Why does he hate LinkedIn so much?
He's sick of it. He's sick of the BS.
It is a bit what would you get.
It's all people.
It's a business circle jerk, basically.
It's, uh, yeah, people love to kind of, it's very un-kiwi.
It is very un-kiwi to go on there and see people bragging about the job.
They're bragging about the job they're paid to do.
Yeah, I don't know, LinkedIn's.
But then that's also people say that Kiwis shouldn't be like that.
And we should brag and we should accept success.
I know, I know, I know.
I don't know what I'd do.
I don't know what I do.
I'd slam on my brake.
Remember 50 cents bought all the tickets to a Jarl rule.
A Jarl rule show?
Jarl rule came out.
No one was there.
See, that's the kind of thing you would do out of spite if you won Lotto.
It's brilliant.
You had all the money in the world.
You had all the money.
I'd slam on my brakes for tailgatters.
Yes, I'm just right my car off each time.
I don't care.
Because you've got money.
You don't care.
Right.
Put in extra airbags in your car.
You could do that now.
Because if they hit you from behind, they are at fault.
No, but then I've got to get a car.
Oh, right.
You don't have our car.
Get one of your city hops and get that room.
You can't do.
No.
You can't do that.
You can't do that.
Oh.
I don't know what I'd do.
I'd probably, oh, there's some, um, no, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know what I'd do.
It's just probably charity.
Do you know what I can't think of anything else other than charity.
We're not asking people to message in what would you do for charity.
We're asking people.
I'd change lives.
If you won or you had a lot of money, what would you do out of spite?
You know what you'd do?
You'd buy the annoying neighbour's house.
Yeah.
And then, or you'd buy the house next to theirs and then make it like, I don't know,
a bridge over their house.
Yes.
And then drive a go-kart from your house to your other house
over the bridge in between the property next door here.
Love that.
We just mess with some.
Yeah, okay, well, I went hundred dollars.
Buy your ex-boyfriend's, like, favorite cafe or something,
and then just make the food real yuck.
Real yuck.
Yes.
Or just shut it down.
The eggs must be cooked
to the chalky.
Yeah, he likes the eggs
with a bit of a green rim around the yoke.
Yeah.
Okay.
This is what we want to know this morning.
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What would you do out of spite
if you won a massive lottery?
What would you do with the money
to spite someone?
Yeah.
So good.
Do you know what would be a good?
Maybe you'd like.
get all hot, like pay to get real hot to get back at an ex.
Well, people do that, don't they?
Yeah, people do that, even without a lot of wind, don't they?
Yeah, but you can just pay for it, do it quicker.
Ashley, what would you do out of spite if you had a lot of money?
By it, because my ex-husband really wants one.
Oh, brilliant.
Right, and would you use it or just let him see it?
Probably just let him see it when he had to come pick the kids up.
Yeah, just parked.
So you don't even have to, like, put it in the ocean.
you could just leave it in the driveway.
Yeah.
Yeah, what would you name it
just to really rub the salt in the wound?
Oh, I don't know.
I'd have to come up with something witty.
Yeah, the X or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or ex-Hubby.
Iriconcilable differences.
Yeah, or like moving on or something.
Yeah, ex-hubby of the seas.
Yeah, I love that.
Yeah, I love that.
Yeah, I love that.
All right, Ashley, thank you.
You could call it the fat slag.
Good.
Anonymous, what would you do if you won heaps of money out of spite?
I would have my father-in-law's place to have a nice lot of horse manure dropped off every week.
Oh, every week?
Because I'm going to say you could do that at once.
Yep.
You could, yeah.
Central landscape supplies will tip it for you too, so you could just tell them exactly where you want to.
Just say, oh, I'm just at work all day, but just put it right in the middle.
On the concrete part, because, you know, I can scrape that up easier.
That's so funny.
That's the one, you know, one lot of men, you can kind of put around the down and get away,
but every week, you know, that's even too much trying to give away to people.
I think they'd start to lock the gate, I think, after one.
Oh, then you'd have to have no bit choice, but to dump it on the gate.
Yeah, thank you, Anonymous.
Michelle, what would you do out of spite if you won lotto?
Morning, guys.
I'd donate an building to my old high school.
Oh, we're not the model student, were you?
No, I wasn't.
That would be pretty good.
And then you could have, like, a wing named after you.
Like the Michelle Memorial Wing.
I've always wondered what does it take if you just wanted to donate a trophy,
like to the school to sponsor something?
I don't know.
Do you know?
But the money behind it, I guess.
Well, you buy the trophy one off, right?
And then what, a yearly donation of a couple of hundred bucks
that every prize giving, the Vaughn Smith Award for Mucking Around in class.
Yeah, and you were one of the worst students.
Yeah.
Love that.
Thank you, Michelle.
Some messages in.
I would create a business, hire my ex-boss, and then make it redundant.
What?
I love that.
That's so good.
I would buy a house that I know my ex-wife would absolutely adore,
even though I don't really care what interiors of houses look on.
No, you need to find out what house she's going for.
Go to the auction and just win it.
Just keep one-upping, one-upping.
If you won lottery and you had a whole lot of cash in your hands,
how would you act spitefully?
There's...
The amount of people who would like to donate things,
to the old school.
Because they were shit bags.
Because they were little shitty bags.
But now we're doing it all right for themselves.
That's so fun.
And the amount of people with wanting to get back at exes, mother-in-laws, also up there.
The classics.
I'd buy a gluten-free bakery near my celiac mother's house where estranged and I'd put flour and everything.
No.
Nauty.
That's giving big beef Wellington.
It's murder, that wasn't it, really.
What?
I've got psychedelic mushrooms growing at my house.
What do you?
How do you know?
I took fun of all that.
AI was like, it could be one of these three mushrooms
and I know some local people who are, you know,
amateur mycologists.
And I said, I was like, what do you think these are?
Well, these go, well, should I have been native them?
Yeah, wait, when you say you know native, you know some...
No, they're not like, they're not...
They're not...
Trip balls on mushrooms.
They're not have some magic mushrooms.
Oh, they grow them.
They grow mushrooms.
Oh, right.
And they confirm.
Because in the forest near my house, people,
go mushroom picking all the time there.
No, these ones are apparently called
laughing jimmies, and they taste disgusting.
Yeah, right. So they're not the go-to for a
psychedelic mushroom trip. Well, you're not in your 20s in Thailand
anymore, Vaughn, I think... Yeah, actually, how embarrassing that.
I think you should get a... I think with enough laughing jimmies, anybody can feel
like they're in their 20s in Thailand.
Anyway, I just thought that was worth of mention.
Yeah, that's funny, isn't it? Isn't it unusual?
What have you been growing? What have you been...
Nothing, they're growing up the side of a dead tree.
Oh.
Yeah.
How a bar.
Just photos because I was like, man, this looks cool.
It's like a cool pattern.
Okay.
I got a photo here.
It also sounds how some kind of biological thing starts, like some kind of...
Yeah, War of the Worlds.
Yeah.
I just don't feel like...
E!
Yeah.
Kind of pretty, though.
Kind of weird, eh?
Yeah, I don't know if I just...
It's a cool.
It's a cool.
No, I wouldn't need a bit.
Look, I thought they'd be all, like, reed or something, but they just look like
oyster mushrooms.
Oyster mushrooms.
Yeah, yeah.
They look very, very similar to oyster mushrooms apart from the fact they'll make you
trip balls
Oh God
You should feed some to the goats
Well it said keep the cows away from them
Because it affects
Cows would be reluctant to eat them
Because apparently they're so bitter
They're really hard to eat
Yeah right
But it'd be funny seeing your cows tripping
Dude tripping ball
Just have a glass of wine you know
Wait some messages
To disguise the taste or more
What you do
We're back on this one
What you do with money
Yep
Despite someone
Despite somebody
I'd host elaborate parties
as a very public place, send the enemy
an invite with an ugly dress
and say the party is dress up
and when they arrive, security tells them that on the list
and they need to leave, but everybody points and laughs at them
and says, why are they dressed so terrible?
That's so thought out.
Yeah, there's some issues there, isn't there?
Yeah. Love it.
Set up an outdoor surround sound system
around my neighbours
with their animals' noises on loop.
Oh, so they've got the barking dog
and you set up
Taste the medicine.
I always thought that would be a good thing to have just a relay set up.
So their dog barks and a speaker barks the same bark back at them.
Yeah, to see how they like that.
I'd throw the biggest, gayest wedding and mail the video to my homophobic family.
Yes.
Pride flags everywhere, glitter.
I could get behind a donation to that anyway.
Yeah, Lady Gaga does a performance.
Oh, yeah, we're going full.
Yeah, we're going full.
We're going full.
I would buy the house my ex-husband rents and up the rent to cover all the child support,
he hasn't paid.
And once he'd pay that, I'd sell it,
and boot his useless ass to the street.
You're up, you know, that it'd feel good.
Good.
I would donate an extraordinary amount of money
to support my father's most hated political party
in his honour.
Yes.
And he ends up on some political donation list
because it all has to be disclosed.
Oh, my God, yes.
In honour, it makes it sound like he might have passed away.
Oh, right, in honour.
An anonymous thing.
Yeah, great.
Yeah.
There we go.
There's no shorter spitefulness out there.
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Play ZM's Fletch Worn and Haley.
No, Saturday night, we went to Mumford and Sons, the concert.
We dragged Warn out, didn't we?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We did.
We went out for a drink and we caught some of that football game,
and Fletch pretended to know how soccer worked.
Soccer just goes on and nothing happens.
I agree.
One point was scored the entire time.
Oh, that was an amazing goal, though.
Oh yeah, that goal was pretty cool.
That was pretty cool to watch.
A great one of those happened every five minutes.
Yeah, and it just doesn't.
If we could get that.
Just doesn't.
Happening.
Yeah.
Rich from, and I realize that's rich coming from someone
who will watch a five-day cricket test match
and it'll be like, I was right watching a game of chess.
Well, there's intricacies and games within the game.
I'm saying is you've got to have consistent judgment of English sports.
Okay, five.
You can't be okay with five-day test cricket,
not okay with a 19-minute football.
football game that it's 1-0 at the end of it anyway
Fair call.
One-nill at the end there, that sucks. Get it moving.
Now, we did say, baking on Friday
and Anzac biscuits were on the menu again, and I said to
Fletch, shall I bring in some Anzac biscuits? And he said, yes.
Yeah, because I was so good, man, rich in the honey.
Yeah, but I thought you meant, like, for the pre-
entertainment and the eating.
I forgot about it. Yeah.
Wait, you took them to the concert.
So then we were walking to the concert, and I was like,
oh, guys, I've got, and walking.
amongst a whole lot of other people walking to a concert
and I said, oh, I've got my baggie
and now everybody's heads goes
and looks, and there's me with a bag of biscuits,
been like, I've got a couple of Anzac's each here.
They're like, in a glad bag. Do you want your biscuits now?
I was like, no. I was like, no, we don't want our biscuits.
I was like, you better want these biscuits because they're coming to the show with us.
I'm not, I'm not ditching them.
I was like, you're not going to get them into Spark Arena.
So I just had it in my pocket. I got the pat down and the guy
padded he said, what's that?
I said biscuits, he said, enjoy the show.
They weren't big, bulky biscuits.
They were very slim.
And they're very chewy because they made them with honey.
So they weren't like, yeah.
Leave the man as biscuits.
They weren't weapons.
No, they certainly weren't weapons.
Did you eat them during the concert?
So we got in and we found our spots and I was like, do you want the biscuits now?
And people around us were like, what are you talking about?
And I was like, I showed them the bag of biscuits.
Yeah.
And they were like, are they just biscuits?
I was like, yeah.
And they're like, wink, wink, wink biscuits.
I was like, no, they're just dancing biscuits.
Oh, you thought maybe some weed baking.
That's what?
It did raise, people around were just like, really, and I kept saying,
you guys are ready for your biscuits yet every time there was a quiet moment.
No, I didn't want a biscuit at a concert.
Then, Mumford and Sons moved from the main stage to a sort of a platform mid-crowd,
and they go kind of like, it goes really quiet,
and they just do some a cappella songs.
And everyone thinks they're funny and yells out something.
something funny.
He said, someone yelled out up the wards.
Shut up.
He said we're going to play a collective game of shut the F up.
And then after a while something you had out up the wars.
And then it was at that stage I just said, I feel like it's time for a biscuit.
You tell me, gave you a little cue to say, I'm ready for a bicket.
Fletch and Haley.
Fletch and Mike, I said, are you ready for your biscuits?
And both of them said, you know what?
And the people around us are genuinely.
Mike had had a couple of drinks and we needed a snack.
Absolutely.
It's better than the pie.
that I bought you at
whatever show we went to.
Do you remember we were at
the, was that the Killers? And you bought out a pie?
No, no, it wasn't the killers, it was train.
That's...
Trains.
And I...
Trane. And I...
A little Haley had had a couple of wines,
and I went to the toilet and came back
with three mints and cheese pies.
It's a rogue move from a concert venue
to have pies at a concert.
But the bickie, the bickie's much easier.
Well, I just said,
and I said, is it time for the biscuit?
The time for a biscuit is upon us.
And they said, yes.
And the people around us were genuinely stuck
They were finally getting us to watch us eat the biscuit
After hearing so much about the biscuits
And how was the biscuit?
Fletch?
Yeah, it's a really good biscuit, it was a really good biscuit
It's a first time I've ever been at a concert
With like 10,000 on people
In the middle of a biscuit
The crowd
Side by side to people
Yeah, with sticky feed
Andrunk eating an Anzac biscuit
It's how they would have wanted it
It is how they would have wanted it's what they thought for
That's what they fought for
That's what they want to
That was their whole point, right?
Was that they were easily a good source of energy, easily digested.
Yeah, I put this on my story and people were just gobsmacked that you managed to, A, get them in,
and B, that you even thought bringing biscuits to a concert was a great idea.
And C, they weren't laced with anything.
Apart from honey.
Just honey.
Because you were getting messages.
People thought, are they weed bickies?
Did you make them with can of butter or whatever it's called?
I said, no.
I don't do drugs.
We're just having an Anzac Bisset at a concert.
Yeah.
Well, of course, like everyone else does, right?
Like everybody else does.
Of course.
But you were saying someone got their Oity bar taken away.
Well, somebody said you were lucky to get that in there.
My Odie Crunch got taken away.
I said, how much Odie Crunch are we talking?
They said, to be fair, it was a very large, very crumbly Odie Crunch.
Oh, no, we can't be having that.
Yeah, that could be throwing.
Those are a menace.
Yeah.
Somebody said, once at the Sevens, I dressed up as Cookie Monster and took a big container filled with cookies as part of the gig.
They were gone in 10 minutes.
Cookies are always a crowd pleaser.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you were like Santa at a Christmas parade.
Just handing them out to everyone.
Someone said I just went to that concert.
I saw a chick with a wheel of Bree.
Oh, a wheel of Bree!
I'm not even mad.
I'm impressed.
Well, they're just mibling at it.
Yeah, I don't know if they took crack.
You didn't need crackers.
Well, you'd just have to rip the wheel of Bree.
Oh, that's true.
Because you can't take a knife in.
You'd have to tear at it.
I don't want to tear at my cheese.
I'd rather tear at cheese than have no cheese.
Yeah, well, look, I'm not mad.
Someone said they've got their cough lollies taken off them on their way into a concert.
Could be laced, could be laced.
Coughlollies?
What a strepso.
Laced strips or lace up.
You might have a little bit of methamphetamine in them or something like that.
I think it's right that they were.
Anyway, can totally recommend a concert biscuit.
Yeah, 10 out of 10 concert biscuits.
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Play ZDN's Fletchhorn and Haley.
Now, I'm in Christchurch at the moment.
I've been doing the gala's, the Auckland, Wellington,
Mashit Gala and then this Saturday, my new show,
what's it called? Sprowl on the Prow.
She's, she can't memorize the title.
I hope she memorises 60 minutes of it.
We like to say Haley burns the candle at both ends and the middle.
And the middle.
And some days, yeah, it's surprising you're even here.
I should chuck the whole candle in a pot.
It's a soy melt at this point.
But that opens on Saturday.
And so whenever I'm busy and performing or things are being filmed,
I'll always get my nails done, of course, as I do all the time with Sophie, who loves the phone is.
She loves the phone and topics.
She loves the callers.
She loves the listeners.
You know, someone went into the salon the other day and they looked her and said,
you're Sophie who loves the photos.
She loved it.
She would have loved that.
Anyway, so I always do something a bit spesh, you know, when I'm performing.
Right.
And these nails, you guys saw them, they're amazing.
They're like covered in little rhinestones and gems.
It's just like jewels everywhere.
Little bobbles, rhinestones,
yeah, they're amazing.
And then I noticed over the weekend
that the inside of my nostril was sore.
Oh no, she loves a pick.
I love a pick.
And what I figured out is
on my two favourite picking fingers,
just the one gemstone of select
that sticks out the most,
it's been cutting the inside of my nose.
Okay.
So having these gloriously bejeweled nails
has ruined one of my favorite things in life,
which is picking my nose.
I'm like mucky like that.
I love to pick my nose.
I'm terrible.
Now you've just got to not pick it
until your show finishes and you get new nails?
No, I've had to change fingers
to one that's got flatter gemstones.
Like the pinky hair,
these ones are nice and flat,
and I go in that way
and go out like that.
Right, okay.
I've completely, because you're a picker as well, Fletch.
You love to pick you nose.
I love a pick.
nose pick.
I love to pick my nose.
Usually my pointy finger, my pointer.
Do you use your, do you ever use your thumb as like a
Yeah, yeah, if it's shallow.
Yeah.
If you want to get deeper, I'll go a little finger because it's small and get right up there.
I think we did this for Scylittle to Pole once and the vast majority of people are
nose pickers.
Oh, look, we're not being, let's not protect.
I'm not eating it.
I just like to dig it out.
Oh, for one.
I know, but isn't it funny that these like gem, these gemmed little fingernails are just
absolutely shredder monostril.
This could be like a good chance to kick the habit.
Gems, does.
You know what I'm in?
Yeah.
I could give it up.
Right, put kind of sharp, spiky objects on things that you can't resist.
Yes.
Like packets of biscuits.
Yes.
And ice cream.
So that you go to get it, but it's razor-wired.
Yes.
And electric shock.
So that teaches you just stop a bad habit.
I was never really a nail-biter, but I remember my nan had this stuff you'd
paint on your nails and if you chewed it it would taste like
disgusting. It was like bitter and stuff
she just got to the point she was just like I've just
developed a taste for it now. I'm like
what's the point of
painting it? She's like I'm just
used to her now.
Noghung-n-nam-num-num-num-num. Stop putting that stuff on your nails
as even as a kid I was like, stop putting this stuff. I'll still
maybe think twice.
I'll pause before I do it.
It's not though. Play Z-M's
Flesh fawn and Haley.
Fact of the day
Day, day, day, day.
Ah, do-da-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
Happy Star Wars Day.
May the fourth be with you.
Yes.
Got plans?
No.
Huge plans, man.
I'm getting all of it done.
Yeah, I've got some Star Wars Lego later on.
Nice.
And watch some of the Darth-Mall show on Disney.
plus then, celebrate Star Wars Day.
Today I want to talk about Star Wars
and its connection to Star Wars
rather and its connection to the Mandela Effect.
Are there going to be enough facts
to do five of these?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Because it could end up being a calendar week.
No.
Surely not. I mean, calendar week was great.
Or chess week. It could end up being as bad as chess week.
Could it reach the dizzying heights of chess week
or Pokemon week.
We have to stay tuned to find out.
But the Mandala effect in Star Wars
as most people don't remember the line correctly
at the end of Empire Strikes Back.
Oh yeah, I know that.
Can you explain the Mandela effect?
So the Mandela effect is where everybody remembers something wrong, basically.
Yes.
I think its origins were that everybody thought Nousa Mandela was dead before he died.
Because everyone could remember a part of history where they were like,
ah, yes, when we lost Nousa Mandela.
No, that never happened.
Yes.
Or hasn't he already died?
No, he hasn't already died.
I mean, he is dead.
He is dead now.
Do you know whenever I think of Nousa Mandela dying, I think of Hillary Barry?
Why?
I saw her?
They sent her to cover the funeral.
Okay.
And remember she said she just had to be ready to go
when he wasn't well?
Right.
I saw Hell's Bears in Wellington yesterday.
Oh, gosh, she's just the best.
She's great, mate.
She was great.
Yeah.
She had the dogs out?
No, no.
She's not afraid to go and barefoot.
No, she was appropriately dressed for the Coru Lounge.
Oh, lovely.
Love it.
Well, this is old Hillary Baron Haley in the lounge.
Oh, I don't know.
Di Hema was there.
What a fiaska for everyone else.
Oh, my God.
Well, the Mandela effect for,
the end of Empire Strikes Back is how people remember the unveiling.
And this was a massive plot point at the time.
Because I only ever saw Star Wars, this came into 1980 Empire Strikes Back.
When I first saw it, it was all out.
And I knew that Darth Vader had been Anakin Skywalker, who was Luke Skywalker's father.
But moviegoers did not know at this time.
It was the great plot to us.
It was the great unveiling of when he says, no, I am your father.
Not Luke, I am your father.
People remember it as Luke I am
Luke
I am your father
He doesn't he says no
I am your father
Because he's saying about how
It's like Tatema Strong Hand
He didn't happen
He doesn't say that in scary movie too
He says tape my little hand
Great movies of all time
That's what I was sort of going
Trying to find something on par
The second movie being the strongest
Of the trilogy you've got to go to Empire Strikes back
and scary movie too
I'm sorry but if you said any Star Wars movie
Or scary movie
I just scary movie
They've aged really well.
Flawlessly.
So badly.
No notes.
I can't believe they're making another one.
They're making a fresh, new scary movie.
Do it.
Didn't the Waians say that if this does well, they'll do white chicks too?
Yeah, they have.
Yeah.
And you know Terry Cruz is on board for that.
Yeah.
Always.
This moment, there was the massive twist that a lot of people remember incorrectly
is knowing, apart from Mark Hamill,
and the director, Ivan Kirchner,
Irvin Kirchner, knew that that was the twist.
James Earl Jones, they got to record a bunch of lines.
And they said, I mean, we're just going to record it, get a sound for it,
maybe say, I am your father, or maybe say, you know,
and he was like, okay, so he had no idea that the end of the movie was going to,
the big reveal was going to be that Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father.
Spoiler alert, by the way, if you've just joined us,
9-6-96, if we've just ruined that for you.
If you're 46 years late for Empire Strikes Back,
A slight spoiler.
My brother got to watch Star Wars with his daughters
and they didn't know that Anakin Skywalk
turned into Darth Vader or that he was their father.
All right, spoilers, spoilers, spoilers.
Spoilers.
Spoilers.
So James Hill Jones recorded voice lines
didn't know that that was how it was going to end.
The guy who was actually inside the suit,
David Proust, a bodybuilder,
who played Darth Vader.
He didn't know that was the line.
They told Mark Hamill who played
Luke Skywalker moments before they filmed.
So his reaction would be genuine.
Oh, wow.
At the end of the Empire Strikes Back movie.
Wow.
See, we're on board for Star Wars Day.
I enjoyed that.
I enjoyed that.
Just more of a movie.
Why don't we just make it movie?
No.
Well, we can.
Movie facts.
We can.
It can be Star Wars movie facts.
Well, it's Star Wars Day.
However, you celebrate.
Make sure you do, make the fourth week with you.
And today's fact of the day is that nobody on set apart from Mark Hamel and the director
knew that Darth Vader was Luke Skywalker's father.
Fact of the Day, Day.
Day, day, day, day.
I do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do do-do.
Play Z-M's, Flesh, Forun, and Haley.
When did you stuff up while a trainee, while learning on the job, while getting trained up?
Because, oh my God, there is a trainee bus driver.
Trainy bus driver in
Jevisse so-eur, which is just 20k out of Paris.
Okay.
Man, Paris is so much easier to say than that.
Otherwise, you just said.
Jiseer-Sor-Eur.
So they are learning to be a bus driver.
I want to be a bus driver in France.
And they were on the bus.
There were four people on board.
It was them, a supervising lead driver, two passengers.
Oh, God.
I don't want to be on.
the bus if it's their first week.
Sounds like an exciting way to say,
sorry, I can't make it to work today.
It is the work.
Like, you never want the trainee.
They've got to learn somehow, but you never want the trainee.
Oh my God, remember when I had the trainee phlebotomist?
The person that takes the blood and they couldn't get my,
and I've got great veins.
Yeah.
I've got great veins.
Would have made a great junkie if you applied yourself,
but instead here you are just working and not doing drugs.
Not doing drugs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They took like three goes and had to get the other person in.
I would have just said stop it.
But you feel so bad when you're getting a medical procedure and they're like,
is it okay if we have a trainee sit in on this?
You're like, well, the next generation simply must learn.
And they're like, come in and go look at Mr Smith's butthole.
I've had a trainee gynecologist come in because I've got an interesting uterus.
Wait, wait, was that the guy in the back of the van?
Because I told you.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.
His FBI T-shirt that said female body inspector did not quantify him.
No, that's how are you.
He was there to inspect me.
Okay.
But yeah, my gynecologist was like, do you mind if I get a trainee just because this is really interesting?
But I'm in stirrup, spread.
Anyway.
I do think it would be funny if someone do come in to a gynaecologist office as a qualified gynecologist with a t-shirt with a t-shirt.
With a t-shirt on that said, not a gynaecologist, but I'll give it a look.
Which I've seen men wearing out in public and I'm just like, dude, seriously.
Yark.
What was the thought process into purchasing that T-shirt?
What are we doing here?
They should ban some T-shirts.
Yeah.
Anyway, back to this trainee bus driver in France.
So they're on the bus, him, the lead driver and two passengers.
That is when he vared off the road and hit a parked car
and casually plunge the entire bus into the river Seen.
Wow.
Now, if you've got to Google, you've got to Google these photos,
are incredible.
The speed the bus must have been going to clear into the river.
Like the whole bus is submerged away from the sign.
It's completely under.
And it's a way, like it's not just like the nose.
Went like that.
It didn't just dip down.
It must have literally got a jump into the river.
Yeah.
Cool, man.
Under the water.
It went in and then the current of the thing caught the side of the bus.
Maybe, yeah.
Spun it around and dragged it a little bit further out.
Oh my God.
It's pretty cool to see a bus in the river.
But everybody got out.
It took them.
It took them, wait, where is it?
Through guard rails.
2 p.m. to get it out, and it happened really early in the morning.
90 firefighters,
divers, police, rescue boats,
a drone and helicopters.
And two of those cranes on the back of big trucks.
Yeah, it was impressive.
And then bystanders were like chucking in life rings
to get the four of them out.
By the way, they're all fine.
They're all fine.
But do you think that guy's going back to bus driving?
Not in a great hurry.
Probably not.
No.
Oh, I doubt it.
Well, this is what we want to know this morning.
Oh, 800 Darns at M. 966.
as a trainee or at your new stage of employment,
maybe you're just learning the ropes?
Yeah, learn the ropes.
Yeah.
How badly did you screw up?
Was there a wrong or if it doesn't need to be a bus in a river or a car crash?
But maybe you did ding the company car in the first week.
Maybe you cooked it and trained it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like how I was learning radio and I realize if you just turn your head like that
and say the F word, the people can still hear you.
They can still hear you.
So whether you were training at a new job, it was at a new job,
be messed up. We want to know this morning.
0800 dials it. Maybe you
were working at Subway and you've
got the Halipanos.
Wow. That would be
unforgivable. Please don't call if that's all you've got.
That's just, yeah, we won't accept that.
You won't accept that?
Apporrent behaviour.
Nah.
Nah. Okay, okay.
Because that's unacceptable.
Yeah.
0800 dials at Emison number
9-6-96-text in.
Bus driver, a trainee bus driver in
France and Paris has ended up with the whole
bus in the River Seen. And you remember the
Olympics, how disgusting that river is, too.
And they made them swim in it.
They did.
And they got sick tummies.
So all four people on board were rescued,
but the bus, like, was fully submerged.
Incredible photos.
And we want to know what happened when you were a trainee.
Yeah, how bad did it kill you?
Emily, how bad was it?
Firstly, happy as Star Wars Day born,
because the other two probably don't care.
Don't encourage him, Emily.
Don't encourage him.
Don't encourage him.
Do you? Have any Star Wars Day-based activities plan for the day?
I'm a preschool teacher, so I'm sure I'll find a couple cross for them.
Oh, good fun.
I'm going to bring me up.
I'm ready.
Okay, dress them up as Ewoks and recreate the Battle of Amdaw.
That would be pretty cute.
That would be cute.
Okay, Emily, what happened when you're a trainee?
So I sold a lady three, quote, pairs of shoes, but they were all left shoes.
Wait, so she put from six left shoes and no right.
shoes.
Oh no.
How did you do that?
So on the floor
you have only left shoes.
Some places
are left, some places are right back.
You've always got just the one so that
if people steal, they're only
stealing, you know, two left shoes.
Yes. Yes. But jokes on you if I've only
got one left foot, Emily.
Yeah. Well, there you go.
Yeah, I suppose so.
I know. I guess they're in for it, aren't they?
But yes, I told her three pairs of left
shoes, so she went home with six left to
and had to come back.
And everyone else in the show was like,
duh.
Do, Emily.
And you're just like, I don't know,
I just got the box, it was there.
It was on the floor.
That's brilliant.
Well, at least you didn't end up
in a river, in a bus, Emily.
Thank you. Alex, what did you do as a trainee?
How badly did you screw up?
Well, it was about
my second or third week as a butcher.
And you know how you're going straight in the knives?
You see top chefs to use the big stick and that goes up and down.
I forgot to use the nice chain mail glove they give you as a precaution.
Yeah, lovely.
I put a large knife into my thumb.
But wait, you were wearing the glove?
No, I forgot to wear it.
Oh, you forgot.
That's what the glove does.
That's what the gloves for.
Love a sharp knife too.
Yeah, it was a very nice thud as it went through into the knuckle of the...
Okay, wow.
And for about a couple of months afterwards,
every time I touched the tip of my thumb,
lightning would just shoot all the way up.
Oh, okay.
Did you go to the doctor, Alex?
Yes.
Oh, you did?
I had to go and take myself to the doctor.
Yes.
Good.
Did you stay in the world of meat?
Did you become a fully qualified butcher or...
You're a meat man?
I like to eat meat, but I don't work with it.
Yeah, not for you if you're cutting your thumb off, is it Alex?
Thanks, mate.
Let's go to Brona.
Brona, what did you do as a rookie on the job?
Hi, team, yeah.
So many years ago when I was a teenager, I worked for a paint shop.
And part of our job was to not only do the retail side,
but to mix the paint and, you know, make sure it was the right color.
Stressful.
You go around on the tint machine, put a,
in and then with the big 10-liter powers you had to put them into a special machine that kind of
shaked out.
Yeah, the shaker.
I love those machines.
Yeah.
Yep, yeah, the shaky ones, yep.
And so clearly one day I didn't put the lid on properly.
And it was mixing around doing its thing.
And then all of a sudden there was like an explosion and the door burst open and there was
just paint everywhere.
Far out.
What a nightmare.
Yeah.
Did you miss the first day where they said always put the lid on?
Yeah, yeah.
It's clearly bad.
Okay.
Bang, bang, bang.
Who had to clean it up?
I don't remember that part.
I remember being very distressed.
I was only like 16 or something like that.
So, yeah, I still had onto the job for a while after that, so.
That's so funny.
We got over that.
So good.
I would have just been like, I think you're done here.
I don't think this is for me.
I don't think this job is for you.
Brona, thank you.
So many messages.
I was working at a theme.
Park. No.
No. And I was training on the roller coaster.
I forgot to lock a carts thing.
No.
Fortunately, the failsafe worked and it didn't go around the loop-de-loop.
But I had to walk up that slope to reassure everybody was going to be fine and lock the thing and not make a big deal out of it.
Okay.
Holy moly scary.
That is terrifying.
I was new to an account's payable job and misspaying the rates on eight branches with a 4% penalty.
Worst part is I did this twice.
I'm no longer in accounts payable at all.
Yeah, I don't think that job's for you.
Okay, keep your text coming in, 9-6-96.
After a trainee bus driver put the bus into the river Cien in France,
we're talking about when you've cooked it,
when you're in the trainee position.
There's so many varying from a misplaced order at a cafe
to costing a business tens of thousands of dollars.
I was a trainee manager at a cafe in accident.
I left the tap running slightly with a cup in the plug hole.
there was an inch of water
in the whole cafe the next morning.
So they left it going overnight.
Flooded.
When I was 17 in training at KFC,
I clicked the wrong potato and gravy button
and crashed the whole drive-through computer system.
I didn't even know that was possible.
Wait, there's a potato and gravy button?
And there's a wrong potato and gravy button?
That's the gravy and potato button.
Don't you dare.
You don't want to know why.
Don't you dare touch that gravy and potato button.
The system just went into overloading.
or something.
Yeah.
Okay.
Someone asked me to get cash out,
but I forgot to put it through.
They came back saying I'd forgotten to give them the cash.
I gave them $300 cash.
I think I'd forgotten to give it to them.
It turns out how'd even put it through.
So it was a free $300 on us on training.
Someone messaged first day on the job in the deli at 15.
I accidentally shut one of the old ladies' heads in the drop-down door.
Wait, the drop-down door, like you lift up the big glass panel and you grab the meats and shut it again.
I guess so.
Can we get confirmation
on what kind of drop down to all that was
and also confirmation
what happens if you touch the gravy and potato button?
Well, you shut down the system
don't you?
I worked with gaming machines
and accidentally ended up giving a customer
a free $3,900.
You're not saying anything,
that sounds really good.
No, we don't say anything.
I was working Kiwi fruit over the holidays
making boxes and then throwing them down a shoot
to the packers below.
The guys at the bottom kept banging on the shoot
and I thought it meant I was going too fast
so I slowed down so they could catch up.
I was going way too slow, of course,
and the Kiwi fruit would pile it in,
but there was no boxes for them to put them in.
You hear, the bangs, you're like,
I'm doing too well.
God, I need to slow down.
I'm killing this.
The Kiwi fruit are just flying off the end of the conveyor
about with no boxes to go into,
so there's mushy fruit all over the floor that
to shut the whole thing down.
I'm not sure how much that cost them,
but I swiftly moved away from boxes.
To pretty much watching.
That's pretty good.
Yeah.
Pretty much you're going to pay to pretty much watch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
First day working at a power company,
I'd just been finished giving a,
receiving a lecture to be careful of who we sent emails to
from the company email.
Anyway, straight away, I sent an email to my best friend
sitting next to me, so I thought,
so I thought, it said, mirror, mirror on the wall,
who's the finest of them all,
the mirror snorted and gave a grunt,
it isn't you, you ugly.
I sent it to the boss.
Oh no.
Okay.
You're not making it past a 90-day higher fire.
I don't reckon.
You've stuffed up there, mate.
Yeah.
When your job is emailing customers, I just don't think that's a great start.
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Well, in the UK, the World Flatpack Championships have happened.
Like IKEA.
Yeah.
So, or like Freedom, like the Warehouse.
You buy stuff there, like desks and stuff, and you've got to assemble them yourselves.
That's flat pack stuff.
Yep.
I still haven't been to IKEA.
No, no, I've got...
Neither.
And the crowds dined down?
It's not really my vibe, I think.
It's still amazed.
I know Vaughn, you love that scandy look.
Whereas you love some kind of antique table that's got Bora in it.
If it ain't got borer, mate, it's not coming to my house.
Well, this woman, who by the way has an, I think, an unfair advantage
because she actually owns a flat pack company.
Oh.
She does this inside and out.
She'll do this daily.
So the competitors had to assemble a bedside table.
How long would it take you to do a bit?
And I'm assuming it's got drawers.
Yeah, the little sliders.
How long would it take you to do that?
Have you ever seen this one before?
Can these people cheat and they train?
Are they told which unit it's going to be?
They train up on it.
I don't know if they do.
I don't know if they know the unit.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Like, you know, those puzzle competitions.
22.
I've never done a flat pack.
Eight minutes, 20 seconds.
Wow, that's impressive.
Yeah, that's how much you love antique furniture.
You've never even had a set of warehouse bedside drawers in your life.
I mean, I would have had like cheap, you know, secondhand Salvation Army stuff, for sure.
But I've never had to put it together myself.
Yeah, you didn't assemble it.
Well, yeah, that was her record is eight minutes, 20 seconds.
She also won last year doing that in nine minutes 33 seconds.
She's better to herself.
Wow.
So she's better.
Yeah, she's armed.
And meanwhile her male competitor was still at that time saying,
I don't need the instruction.
Yeah, yeah.
And then it was like, damn, you need an Allen key.
Yeah.
And then...
I don't have an Allen key.
They're like, it's in the box.
I didn't look.
Do you think she's like, why are there two extra screws?
Nah, she's a pro.
She'd know there's going to be a couple of rogue.
But they do give you extra, eh?
Yeah.
Okay, fuel.
Because, yeah, I brought something together once and there was definitely a couple
left over.
I was like, this should go somewhere.
Yeah, then you're like, it's not structurally sound.
Yeah.
I don't have all the bolts in.
When you take apart something that was whole
and put it back together
and there's a couple of screws with us.
And there's extra.
What should you be holding together?
Yeah. Then you've done it long.
Is there a video of this?
I can look up later.
I want to look at it because I want to see how frantically she puts this together.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe have a Google because there is, on the news story,
didn't have a video, but just had her.
I don't want to have a good.
I want you to come to the show fully prepared shows.
Well, you can literally do that on your own time.
I just don't know, actually, Fletch, I'm with you, Vaughn.
I don't actually know why you would.
tell us something that immediately
feels like it'll be visually pleasing
and yet you have not prepared
the visuals for us.
We don't sort of thing we should share on our social media.
We're not sharing some person
putting together a flat pack bedside table.
On eight minutes, I'll watch you.
Oh, now we're not.
Yeah, now we're not because you didn't find it.
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Now, we want to know
what is your could have been rich story?
Like, if I had have done this,
We're just narrowly missed down on this
I'd be rich by now
Or maybe someone in your family
Like parents always have this
Oh I could have bought the house there
Oh yes
Had the chance
So the Apple co-founder Ronald Wayne
You won't know him as much as the others
Because
Not as much as his son Bruce
No not related
You get that somewhat of a laugh
Defending the streets of Gotham
I just feel like I've been quite mean to Vaughn today
Because of his like zero effort
Top Six and then like the Star Wars
back to the day.
I had a dream last night. I just didn't come to work today
but didn't tell anybody. And then I woke up and I was like,
maybe I'll do it. But then I didn't. I showed up.
But I left my good attitude at home.
Yeah. That's all right. We love you
with even this piss poor attitude.
Thanks. So Ronald Wayne,
had he not have sold his share of Apple in 1976,
he's now 91,
he'd be worth 400 billion.
$1,000.
Wow.
So he got out early...
$400 billion.
Because he was...
$400 billion.
And Steve was there.
And you always hear about them and they, you know, they're obviously very famous.
And Rodney Wine.
And this other guy who's like, ah, I'll just sell now.
So the dude that got out of the Beatles?
Yeah.
There was that guy that he was just like, guys, this...
I can't see this working.
No, sell Bella.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Songs about a yellow submarine.
Bloody stupid.
Bloody stupid.
Who let Ringo write a song?
So he says...
And why do we call him?
Loringo?
His name's Richard Starkey.
Yeah.
So he only had a 10% stake in Apple.
Jobs and Wozniak each had 45%.
He had 10%.
They signed a partnership agreement.
And 12 days later, he walked away.
He was like, ah, I don't know.
So what did he do with those shares just gave them back to them?
Or did he sell them?
Sold his stake back for $800.
Dollars.
What?
Later received an additional $1,500 to formally forfeit any future claim to the company.
So like, hey, this is going to go well.
So he's got $2,300.
And could have today been worth $400 billion.
With the market, with Apple's market cap hovering around $4 trillion,
that 10% stake would be worth $400 billion.
Oh, my God.
In 1982, Apple's all-time lowest share,
The share price was 3 cents.
Wow, so if you bought then.
Yeah, wow, that's crazy.
So he's 91 years old, and although he could have been profoundly rich, he said he's got no regrets.
Like, he went on to do engineering, he lived a very quiet life.
It's fine, he's been all.
He's like, I've had a happy life.
Why would you tell anyone cash wise and stuff?
He wasn't straight.
It sounds like he just had a normal everyday, like working life.
normal life working in IT and every now and then he would sell stamps.
Oh, okay.
And he got into stamps, but yeah.
I don't make ends meet by selling your stamps.
That wouldn't be your party story though.
Hey, guys, guys, I could be worth so much money now because everyone would be like,
I just wouldn't ever think about it ever again.
I just know neither.
I'd actually have it hypnotized out of my memory.
I guess our family's version was my great grandfather owned 31 Marine Parade at the Mount,
which is like right on the main beach at Mount Monga, yeah.
Yeah.
And when he, when my dad was seven,
17, he was selling it and he said it's 31 Marine Parade.
Someone in the family can have it for $31,000.
And my popper was like, I don't want to beach house.
And my dad was like, can I, can you loan me?
Because he was like, can I borrow?
He's like, I don't have $31,000.
Because that in the day was a lot of money.
Yeah, but not, you know, as much as what it's worth now.
Look it up now.
Oh, to be worth millions.
Every time we go to the amount, we tell the story.
One roof.
Ding down there.
That's a KPI there.
Going there right now.
Well, this is what I want to know.
Maybe you missed down on something.
Maybe there was a lot of ticket moment.
Maybe you just...
Land value, the estimated value RV,
so rateable value, $9.75 million.
$31.
Yeah.
Dad, if you're listening.
Yeah, who's getting up to milk cows still?
No, he's not going to get up.
He's still got to get up.
Do farm.
Old man.
He can't sleep still.
He can't still.
He can't still.
He's the kind of guy that would have thrives at a beach house.
Do you have a story like this?
A could have been rich story in your family or yourself.
0,800, darn it missed the number, 9, 6, 96,
already some coming through.
And you're just like, no.
Could have been so rich.
Hindsight, eh?
Yeah.
We want to know if you've got a could have been rich story.
Yep.
You missed out on something or you said no.
And then suddenly it went crazy.
The third founder originally of Apple,
he sold it 12 days after.
to signing the contract with his 10%
which now would be worth 400 billion dollars.
Again, I don't know why this guy
talks about it. I'd just be so shamed
I'd just slip away.
I'd be like that you've got the wrong guy.
That's not me. That's not me.
Ellie, you've got a could have been rich story.
Hi, yes, I do.
So when I was back in the UK
study and I was a talk to this guy
kept asking me out on his date
and he seemed like he was a bit of a loser,
he had a bit of a rubbish haircut.
there was this one time he pulled the head off a pigeon
and it kind of gave me the yuck a little bit.
I'm sorry, what did you say he pulled the head off a pigeon?
Yeah.
So he murdered a creature in front of you
and you were just like, yeah, it was a bit of a bit of a haircut was the problem.
The pigeon was also a problem.
Wait, he did the pigeon in front of you or he told you about it.
No, it was in front of the whole class.
So there was a pigeon and it couldn't fly and he was walking around with it on his shoulder
and then he just popped the head off.
Good Lord.
relaxed about this guy just be hitting a creature in front of you.
For no purpose.
That's wild.
Okay.
Okay.
So who is he?
Um, so anyway, I didn't speak for a few years after I left college,
and he added me on all my socials a couple of years ago.
So I had a bit of a stock, and it turns out that his family own a really large supermarket
chain back in the UK, and they live on a huge estate with a big manor house, tennis courts,
pool, private jet, yachts, the whole lot.
Wow.
And you could have been married into that by now.
Yeah.
But he still built the head off a bird.
Yeah.
He's an otherwise healthy bird.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's odd.
It's odd behavior.
It's giving, you know, serial killer in the future kind of.
It is.
That is a real key marker of someone who is a psychopath.
Ellie, thank you.
What a great story.
Maya.
What's your could have been rich story?
Is that me?
Yes.
Oh,
Maya.
Oh, Maya, okay.
Maya.
Like mayonnaise, but Maya.
Okay.
Well, not like mayonnaise.
Mayana.
Maya was like mayonnaise, but Maya is like
mayonnaise.
Yeah.
Okay, yeah, right.
Okay, fantastic.
Well, Maya, what your could have been rich story?
Well, it was someone in the family,
my mom's auntie, they had a property in Waiheke.
And they saw, I think, in the 19th.
or 2000s around
like 37 or 800,000
and then it resold in
maybe around 2015 for 11 million
and then...
Shut up!
Yeah, in the last few years
I think it's been resold at like 16 million.
Wow.
Oh my God, and then back in the day
it was like, you know,
like an average Auckland or
Hamilton House price.
So we didn't know about the Wannerie.
We didn't know.
We didn't know about the Wannerie.
Mayer, thank you.
Some messages.
My parents were on their honeymoon
in Hawaii many, many years ago.
They stopped at McDonald's and they were sitting there
enjoying a cheeseburger when the owner said
you should open one of these in New Zealand.
My dad's response, nah, it'll never take off.
Anyway, that's the story of why we're not billionaires
and why I pay for cheeseburgers.
When was the first New Zealand McDonald's opened?
74?
In Patoni?
Was it Patoni or lower?
Oh, Patoni's in Lower.
It was later than 74.
It was like the 80s.
Was it?
No, 177-2, 976.
Potirua, at Cobham Court.
Oh, I know it was Wellington.
Yeah, right.
1976.
Big Macs of 75 cents,
cheeseburgers are 40 cents and hamburgers are 30 cents.
But it'll never take off, though.
No, I don't need to take off.
Oh, I had one of those.
That'll never take off.
No.
Super popular.
Is they?
I still don't know.
Yeah.
Still I'll never take off.
Messages we had on Instagram.
Parents had a choice between a house in Remyuera or
funganui. Guess where they chose?
Phanganoi.
Lydia said met a billionaire at a polo match in Argentina.
He invited me to London on his private jet and I'm assuming she said no.
Someone missed it in, we were in the United States and after I went through a door with one of those slow-closed boxes, you know, things at the top, the boxed attached and swung down and hit my wife in the face.
Who was coming in behind me, broke her nose, wonky, surgery, only option.
to straighten it. Once we got home, we had to go through a process to settle, but if we wanted
to go for a lot, we'd have to go back to the USA and we're like, ah, I can't be bothered.
And a couple of years later, the same company had a sliding door hit someone in the face,
and they got millions.
And they were just like, unwonging my wife's face and let's just get back to New Zealand.
I just don't want to go to L.A. again. I can't be bothered.
Yeah. I had the opportunity by Bitcoin when it was 10 cents.
And they had $100 that I was going to put into Bitcoin, but I didn't because I couldn't figure out
how the wallet thing worked.
Yeah, now it's worth like $0.
so much more.
My husband's great-grandfather's
John Barker who started four square
and lost it all in a horse bet.
Could have married into...
But then that would have changed everything.
He might not have crossed paths with you
if he'd been like excessively wealthy or...
Yeah, if movies have taught us anything
if you change to the space-time continuum.
Yeah, sliding doors.
Slighting doors, butterfly effects.
Everything else changes.
Yeah. A bit toast theory.
It all changes.
My dad owned two properties in Fiji.
But when we move, he generously gave both the way
to extended family.
One was a beautiful farmhouse by the beach
and the other was a townhouse in town.
now it feels strange going to back Fiji and have a book hotels
instead of saying what could have been able to our exclusive holiday homes.
Who just gives away some homes?
It might have been a family thing.
We're leaving and someone didn't have something and you gave it in the family.
Goodness.
My grandparents were offered to buy shares at McDonald's
and at first came to New Zealand but declined politely.
I just remembered I could have married into that rich family in Switzerland.
Do you remember that?
Yeah.
When I was marching around and I met that guy and he wanted to fly me around the world
and fall in love with me.
And I was like, nah.
Then he went to his house and it was in a stay.
And I was like, okay.
Too late.
Too late.
Too late.
I reckon he would have got sick of year anyway if it's any consequence.
He's a bit march-old.
He's a calm, sweet, quiet boy.
We never made it.
But I would have taken him for all of it.
Yeah, good on you.
The Fletch morning, Haley, big pod.
We've spoken recently about the fake AI artists that have been in the charts.
He was an AI artist in the UK charts.
Yeah.
It was like a soul, blues.
Yeah, Solembleu singer.
Did you see that the Oscars have come out saying that no AI will ever be given an Oscar?
Yes.
If AI's been used, actresses, writers or whatever.
Because people are quite confronted by Val Kilmer in this trailer.
Oh, yeah.
He died.
But he gave it the okay before he died, eh?
He did.
But people are like, okay, that looks like Val Kilmer.
And it's dead Val Kilmer.
It's pretty crazy.
So, yeah, he won't be...
I started following an AI page on Instagram today.
It's New Zealand history.
And this guy's like taking photos of...
places.
Yeah.
Like the grey mouth floods
in the late 1800s.
Pink and white terraces?
And I don't know.
He might do an episode
on the Pinker White Terraces and then used AI to be like,
I'm here in 1800s grey mouth and it looks flawless.
What?
Okay.
See, that's kind of cool.
I don't know.
Well, anyway, we've spoken about these AI artists and the fact that they were in
the charts and people thought they were real.
And people are a little bit, you know, confronted by AI in general, a lot of people.
So Spotify have come out and said they are introducing a
verified badge that is
I guess just like a basically
a green tick by the looks of things, a light
green tech, keeping with the Spotify
colors, and that will verify
when artists are human
and not AI generated, because that's the world
we live in now. Oh my gosh. We need
labels to tell us when things are human.
I'm verified human. And then
you're going to listen to something, you're like, man, this is slop.
This must be AI slop. That verified
humid. No, verified human. We were doing
slop before. You could even
slop, slop, slop, generate slop,
AI.
So apparently they will check for signals of a real artist behind the profile.
Or like crying and breathing.
Like Instagram profiles and, you know, like the things that show they're a human.
The actual human.
Yeah.
Far out.
Which is crazy.
And weren't you saying this morning how when they're putting their prices up or something again?
Oh my gosh.
Yes.
It was the first thing I saw this morning.
Woke up Spotify changes to your Spotify premium and I went, uh-oh.
Because we all know what that can mean.
Now, I will say I have premium duo, so I share this with my partner because it works out slightly cheaper.
Well, that's sickening, but cheap.
No, no, no.
Like, we each have separate profiles, but it's on the same account plan because it's like $2 cheaper.
Yeah, but you don't see when he's listening to Pink or something?
Pink's greatest hits?
No, I'm not looking at that.
Okay, yeah, because I don't like when people mess up my algorithm.
No, no, no.
That's why I don't like even having people on my, like, Netflix and stuff.
Because then you're like, get it out.
Yeah, no, it's like Netflix where you each have a profile, essentially.
Like, it's not.
They just happened to be billed together.
But it went from 2549, which is already crazy a month, to 2899 a month.
That's nearly a dollar a day.
Is that for two accounts?
That's for, yeah, whatever I have.
Oh, yeah, right, okay.
Wow.
Yikes.
Yeah, and they still won't give me more audio book hours.
Go back to playing our own music, guys.
Should we listen to the radio?
Guys, I reckon you've got a great choice here.
You listen to the radio.
Or you're making tape.
Or the iHeart app.
That's beautiful.
Or the eye hard app.
Free.
the podcast. Free, guys.
Free.
Free.
You know, that's some company synergy right there.
That's beautiful, man.
Beautiful company synergy.
God, everything's so expensive at the moment.
That's my hot new take.
I don't know if you guys have noticed.
Everything's really expensive at the moment.
Hot take, Haley.
You're not going to cost.
Cozy Livy cry.
That's what I'm calling it.
I'm calling it.
Cost of living crisis.
Yeah.
Hot take.
God, even Haley's having to take her jackets back after she buys them.
Yeah, Mike.
That's going straight back to the shop.
I counted 79 all rights today.
Fletcher, but that's a new person.
record. Oh, fuck off. How many of those did you count?
79 of those, too. All right. Well, if you enjoyed today's podcast, give us a rate and review.
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