ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 4th September 2024

Episode Date: September 3, 2024

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The ZM Podcast Network. The Flesh, Fawn and Hayley Big Pod. Great things are brewing at McCafe. The perfect start to every day. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Flesh, Fawn and Hayley. And we're down at Hayley today, who is, according to the messages in our group chat,

vomiting on the floor of her bathroom. Her beautiful, brand new, renovated. She's got heated tiles. She's got heated tiles. Must be nice. So don't feel too sorry for her. Heated tiles, brand new, renovated. She's got heated tiles. She's got heated tiles. Must be nice. So don't feel too sorry for her. Heated tiles in West Auckland. Calm down.

Yeah, it's not. It's not Warnocko. Central Otago, is it? It's not Central Otago. Yeah. Never needed. Well, yeah, she's, must be a bit of a tummy bug by the sounds of things. Or some violent diarrhea.

Yeah, well, if it's coming out one end, it won't be too long until it's poking out the other. Yeah. Couple of KGs down, though. That's the way I look at these things. You know, a bit of raw chicken. Great excuse to hit a Gatorade, too. Always a great excuse. Yeah, you've got to re-electrolyte, don't you?

Get them back up. I prefer coconut water. Nature's electrolyte. Oh, give me strength. They don't tip a big vat of coconut water over the coach's head when he wins Super Bowl. They should. They should.

That's because there's not enough money in big coconut. Big Gatorade, big Powerade. It's got all the money for the sports, doesn't it? We'll give you a couple of chances on the show today to see Sabrina Carpenter live in San Francisco. Beautiful city. Not only did you get to see her live, but yeah, I don't know, go over there. Hire a bike. Bike over the Golden Gate Bridge.

Yeah, and if that talk of vomiting and pooing before got you going, you'll love San Francisco. Step over a few human shits. They're not afraid to shit on the road there. They're certainly not. Not afraid. America. America.

Land of the free. Your chance coming up before 7 will give you the first chance this morning. Listen up for that mother trucker activator. The top six on the free. Your chance coming up before 7. We'll give you the first chance this morning. Listen up for that mother trucker activator. The top six on the way. Yeah, the top six reasons New Zealand's worth the extra $100. This came in. This was big news yesterday and overnight continues to be that tourists entering New Zealand will have $100 added to their,

I assume, airline. The airline will take part. So apparently it's $35 at the moment, so it must be in the visa. Right. In your e-visa. Right. Because otherwise every time we go to Australia, we're going to be paying an extra $100.

That's not right. Doesn't sound... Poo-ass. Yeah. If it was in your airline ticket. Oh, yeah. But we don't pay to come back because we're residents. Yeah, but how do they know when you...

It doesn't know when you book a ticket. Ah, gotcha. You know what I'm saying? It must be in the visa. I'll leave that up to the experts. But the top six reasons New Zealand's worth the extra $100. We're worth it. I think we're worth it.

We're cute. Is that on the list? We're cute. Is that another tax that the government's brought in? Yeah, it is. Just check tax count. Yeah, it is. It's weird because whenever I voted for them, they said no taxes.

That's you being a mouthpiece for the left again, isn't it? because whenever I voted for them, they said no taxes. They said no. I don't know what that means. Less taxes. More money in my pocket. That's you being a mouthpiece for the left again, isn't it? Yeah, and it's only, again, if you're a resident or a citizen, you don't need to pay that money. No. Silly little poll on the way.

The results are in for, are frozen yogurt places still cool? You know what I mean? 12 years ago, fro-yos were everywhere. All the rage. All the rage. We'll give you the poll results soon

But next on the show Birds have been trained to do something very smart This has got crows written all over it I'm yet to know exactly what kind of bird But it's got crow energy All eyes have been on Paris this year With the Olympics and the currently underway Paralympics. Yep.

You were watching some swimming last night. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's insane, isn't it? It's amazing. We were watching with the kids and I said, I never want to hear a can't out of your mouths again because look at that.

Yeah. Look at that. Yeah, it's incredible to watch. It's inspiring. It's inspiring. It's inspiring. There's a Mexican swimmer, doesn't have any hands or feet. One of his arms is sort of midway down the forearm gone. The other one's like above the elbow.

One leg's just... Yep, can swim better than you. Say it. Dude, no doubt about it. What if they did 100 metres in a minute? No, they... They were flying. Yeah, right.

What length of the pool? Was it two lengths? 100 metres. Wow, okay. In a minute 20 or something? Jeez. Flying. Yeah.

Flying. So, yeah, inspirational. In France, you were recently in Europe, and I remember Hayley saying as well, no one's vaping over there. Everyone's still bumming darts. It's insane. Like, you just forget what cigarette smoke in public is like.

Until you go to Europe. Yeah, until you go to Europe. Well, in France, in Paris particularly, it's a massive problem. Cigarette butts on the ground because they're made of a material that does not break down. I always remember being told... I know this from seeing ciggies on the beach in New Zealand.

Yeah, like, weren't we told as kids, like, a thousand years or something takes to break down? Yeah, it's like a plasticky synthetic thing. It would take forever to break down. But the rest of the cigarette, the paper around it, and, of course, the tobacco, that'll dissolve real quick. But the filters, to keep all that horrendous chemicals out of your lungs.

They do a great job to the filter. He said sarcastically, last forever. So in 2018, a Swedish startup said we're training crows to pick up cigarette butts. Okay. And what happens is the crow picks up the cigarette butt, puts it in the container. When it puts it in the container, the door on the container next door opens up and they get a peanut.

It drops a peanut. One peanut. It's like a vending machine. Yeah. Except instead of putting in coins and getting out Choccy, they're putting in cigarette butts and they get a peanut. And they can have as many peanuts as as many cigarette butts as they can find. So the birds are going to be wanting the peanuts. In 2018, there is an article called, Is it ethical to train crows to pick up cigarette butts?

What, because you might be giving them some kind of cancer from the cigarette-like butts? The ethics of employing animals to do our dirty work is this cosmo, not cosmo like as in sealed section in the middle, what's wrong with my vagina? Cosmo, a different cosmo. Okay. Is it ethical to teach other animals

to clean up our mess? I feel like birds yes. I'd probably sleep better if it was pigeons doing it. Well they're not smart enough. The new Caledonian crow has the reasoning skills of a seven year old human. What? Seven year old is well old enough to be like do

this, get that. Yeah. Like, put that away, get a sticker chart. Seven, that's crazy. And it's a bird. Yeah. Okay. Is that why they're kleptos? Is that why magpies are kleptos? Yeah, they collect the shiny things. They like things. They're like, oh, that thing lasts. I'll take it back. It's shiny.

It makes me happy. I'll collect more of them. So what, Paris has been doing this for a while? Well, no, Paris has just started. it was sweet it was a swedish firm that started doing this uh in in sweden yeah because they said they were really struggling with keeping cigarette butts off the street yep have they said how many they've collected like since they've started no god you'd be there all day yeah well they Well, they said 62% of all street litter is cigarette butts. Which is crazy. Yeah.

They say using this crow method could save them 75% of street sweeping costs. Not clearing up the rubbish. Yeah, but peanuts aren't cheap. You've got to pay peanuts. Peanuts get crows. That's the saying. You pay peanuts. Yeah, so they're doing it.

So it's not the first time they've done it, but currently they're doing it in France. Then there should be some sort of award system every tenth cigarette butt the crow gets. Something a little bit better, maybe a macadamia. Or a Brazil. A nicer nut. Or a cashew. A nice honey roasted cashew.

Or one of those skinny almond chocolate coated macadamia. Yeah, those slap. Those are good stuff Those crows will have All those cigarettes Cleaned up in no time But then they'll probably Start smoking

So they can trade in Their own cigarettes For more delicious Skinny almonds It's a vicious cycle Yeah Play ZM's Fletch Vaughn and Hayley

Hayley sick today Mmm Spewing Not good Maybe some food poisoning Who knows Who knows Look who knows

But we'll Who bloody knows We'll battle on Without her Sorry Not good. Maybe some food poisoning. Who knows? Who knows? Look, who knows? But we'll... Who bloody knows? We'll battle on without her. Sorry. The word sorry. Yeah. Does seem to be the hardest word. Four in 10.

40% of us, according to a study, this is from thousands of adults in the UK, ages 20 to 50. Yeah, 40% don't like apologising because we think we're never wrong. Oh. No, you said before I would be one of these four people. I'm quick to apologise. I'm quick to apologise. Unless you're right, though.

Unless I'm right. Then I'll stick to my guns. And then you'll be stubborn and dig in. Yeah, but if I'm proven wrong, I will apologise. Yeah. No, that's fair. I think you do. Also, breaking it down

Nearly a fifth of people 18% Don't feel comfortable Making an apology 15% Don't like admitting When they're wrong And 20%

You just gotta get You just gotta get it done You just gotta say it You just gotta get it out Just say it Get it out Sorry about that Sorry about that

Yep But then some If you're wrong Some people as well Said they didn't wanna to reignite the controversy by saying sorry. Like if you're arguing maybe with your partner, you don't want to be like,

sorry, because then it's going to drag it up again. Well, no, because then that's bad if you are saying, if you're genuinely saying sorry and they want to start arguing about it again. They're not moving on, are they? They just... Also, I love the stock images they've used for this article. Couples turned away from each other.

I'd love to hold a stock image shoot and be like, okay, now we need you to look like really sad. Yeah. And this one on the park bench. You have definitely done something wrong. He was definitely liking an Instagram model's photos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's done something.

In this photo, he's done something wrong to piss her off. She's got her arms crossed in a huffy fashion. Yeah. She's having a huff. He's like, yeah. He's done something. In this photo, he's done something wrong to piss her off. He says she's got her arms crossed in a huffy fashion. Yeah. She's having a huff. He's like, oh. She doesn't look happy. She definitely doesn't deserve a huff. I wouldn't want to be a stock image photo.

You could be used for anything. I want to conduct it. I want to be in charge of it. You want to be like, okay, now look. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Now look like you're in bed. Now look like you've let one off, but you're going to have to deny it.

Yeah. Well, you can be like that. Who's that guy? Is he from Poland? Kind of the white beard. The old mate. The old mate. He's done a heap of stock images.

Yes. And he's kind of, he became a mate. He became a mate. The awkward one where he's holding the cup and he's like. Yes. Awkward smile, yeah. Yeah. That and the couple where they're walking and he's looking of, he's the stock image guy. He became a meme. The awkward one where he's holding the cup and he's like. Yes. Awkward smile, yeah. Yeah. That and the couple where they're walking and he's looking over his shoulder back at the

other woman's derriere. Those are your two big stock images. And they, like, how much do you reckon they were paid for that? A couple of hundred bucks? Bugger all. For a day's work? Yeah. And then you become, like, the meme for everything for the next 10 years.

Yeah. World's most famous stock images. Oh, yeah. The corporate like laughing one where everyone's like dressed up like corporate but you can tell they're not really corporate people.

It doesn't gel well. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm just looking what makes a good stock photo model is racial ambiguity. So even if you're white,

they can't tell you what kind of white you are. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah. Or what kind of brown you are. What kind of white you are Oh right Okay Yeah Or what kind of brown you are What kind of brown you are Like look at this This woman here

I'm gonna cover her name Because that gives it away But look at that She could be from anywhere Yeah she could be She's Adriana Rodriguez So she's of Latin American descent

Or Spanish Or maybe Filipino You don't know Because she looks Like she could be from Asia Because what More markets can use your image Yeah more people can use it I do love when a business Uses like obvious Spanish, or maybe Filipino. You don't know. Because she looks like she could be from Asia. Because what, more markets can use your image. Yeah, more people can use it.

I do love when a business uses like obvious American stock images. Yes. For like their business in New Zealand. You're like, those people are living here. Those are definitely not Kiwis. Definitely not. Silly Little Pole is next on the show. Are frozen yogurt places still cool?

I mean, who doesn't love piling the lollies and the chocolate on top of the pro-yo? They used to be a first date hotspot. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley Silly little pole, silly little pole It is so silly, silly, silly That the silly little pole Silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole. Frozen yogurt once considered the first date haven.

Yeah, of frozen deliciousness with lollies on top. Yeah, 12 years ago. Yeah. They kind of popped up everywhere. To be honest, I was never about the lollies on top. Really? No, that was the best bit. No, the lollies got too cold and they got hard.

I liked the yogurt. That's how they got you though. The yogurt lollies were the expensive part. It's like pick and mix lollies. They get you. Do you remember when the pick and mix was a big thing at the movies? Yep. And then that kind of ended, didn't it? Yeah. Because they had to sell the bags now. Yeah. But they were a bit yuck. Yeah, they got you. So the kids were always putting their hands in.

They were, yeah. But they got you. They added up. You'd get a big bag and then you had to pay like 18 bucks for it. Yeah, because the price was per 100 grams. And you're like, that's heaps. And it wasn't. It wasn't, no.

Are frozen yogurt places still cool? We asked you. 67% of you said no. Oh, wow. Two thirds. One third said yes, love them. Okay, I want to hear people. I'm going to say it's the price that's got people.

Well, let's see. Okay. Monique says ice cream is so much yummier than yogurt. Couldn't agree more to that. Oh, gelato. Couldn't agree more, Monique. No, not gelato. Ice cream.

No, gelato. Ice cream. Ice cream. I feel like gelato places have popped up to replace frozen yogurt. Probably, and they'll soon go the same way. They're just not as good as ice cream. Absolutely not. So immediately she says yogurt is a little bit disappointing.

And then you get the most basic pick-a-mick lollies on top. And then you have a mini heart attack at the counter when it's like $25. Yes. Yeah. Per pot. And then the yogurt melts. Yeah. And then you've got this like lolly soup.

Yeah. Danielle said, were they ever cool? And do they even still exist? The numbers have certainly dwindled. Yeah, they've dropped off, but they're still around. Frozen yogurt. Mission Bay. Now, Mission Bay in Auckland was the home of the frozen yogurt.

Yeah, I think at one stage there were like 20 of them. Well, Kiwi-O's still out there. Yeah, they're still going. No, the other one, the New Zealand Natural, that's ice cream. Yeah, that's ice cream. That's straight up ice cream. Kiwi-O's still out there. Yeah, they're still going. No, the other one, the New Zealand Natural, that's ice cream. Yeah, that's ice cream. That's straight up ice cream. Kiwi-O. But there's a Ben & Jerry's out there now.

Is there? Yep, and there's the Moven Pack. It's all, it's targeting people going to the beach. Ben & Jerry's is cheap, though. Yeah, but it's yum. I want a cheap roll. I want to go into a dairy and bare feet run from the car to the dairy and be like, oh, oh, oh, oh.

And get a Goody Gum Drops. Get a Goody Gum Drops. Yeah. Get something like that. Can't beat that. Get something like that on the go. Bree says, they were so cool the last years that I was in high school or just out of high school, 2013, 2015. Don't think much from that time is still cool.

Do you remember we had a card loaded up with hundreds of dollars of the credit to frozen yogurt? Hardly put a dent in it. Like $500 credit. I know. It was ridiculous. It was insane. The first time I went, maybe the first of only three times that I tried to put a dent in it, I paid for a family's in front of me.

I said, I got this. And this family was very confused. Yeah. And I paid for their frozen yogurt. And they were like, do we know you? I was like, no. Just a man doing charity. Yeah. And I paid for their frozen yogurt. And they were like, do we know you? I was like, no. Just a man doing charity. Yeah.

Just a man doing charity. Bronte said, we all need to admit it. Frozen yogurt is disgusting. I mean, I only enjoyed it because of the lollies on top. Bronte may be onto something. Yep. Jackie says, my Gen Alphas love them. Okay.

So they probably are cool and this 49-year-old has no idea. Right. Is it back? Maybe it's gone full circle. It's back for the gen alphas. What are your kids like? They just like frozen treats. Just like anything.

They just like anything. Okay. But they probably go ice cream over frozen yogurt. But the lollies. Yeah, but wait until they start going out on dates with boys. Then they'll be going to frozen yogurt. No. There's no frozen yogurt in the jungle where we're moving.

Let alone boys. You'll be in the car with binoculars. Yeah. Interesting. He's gone chocolate. Oh, what a loser. Callie said, my five-year-old has just discovered

the expensive way to eat lollies that have been sneezed on. Yep. I'll give you that. I'll give you that. Nice. Nicola said, I love it,

but where are they these days? All the shops that I used to go to have gone. Also, just grow up and do gelato like the rest of us. Hayley said it's all about the A-C-A-I now. Achibos. Achai.

Aki. Arsi. Asai. Shannon, I've never seen you laugh so hard. Asai. I got there in the end, right? I think you hit the wall. Acai. Acai. What?

Acai. Acai. Acai. Acai. I should know. So many of these have been put on my credit card. Yeah. We're just stopping.

The girls and I just, wait, I get home from work. Hey, where are you guys? Oh, the girls and I just popped out for, what is it? An acai bowl. I'm like, oh, cool. There goes $45. Yeah. Jesus Christ.

What is it? It's a bunch of bullshit is what it is. We've got yogurt at home. Make one at home. It's a type of berry, but like when you get a bowl of it, it is frozen, then blended up. Kind of a smoothie bowl, but it's a specific berry.

Real yum, real good for you. Antioxidants. And $18. Yeah. For a cup. Expensive. So expensive. Okay. Cool, no, delicious, yes, says Lauren. And Lauren, another Lauren. Lots of Laurens listening to the show. Yep.

Who is an allergic to dairy now? What does she mean? So she is? Maybe, is she saying everyone's allergic to dairy? Everyone's allergic to dairy. Interesting.

Everyone's got a dairy Is it actually dairy though? Is it dairy free? They do a dairy free yogurt, don't they? Don't they have an option for that? I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. Great flavours, vegan friendly, amazing experience. Vegan friendly. Okay. So that indicates to me there's amazing experience. Vegan-friendly. Okay. So that indicates to me there's not a lot of dairy.

No. Going on there. Don't know. Anyway, it seems that maybe the time of the fro-yo is go-go. Yeah, it seems like it's still go. Play ZM's Fletch Vodden Ailey. Play ZM. Well, we have long talked about this.

In fact, we ran a very scientific experiment on the show a couple of years ago. Yep. About gutters. That's right. Gutters was the topic that we said none of us had done anything about. But this is because an experiment to test that Facebook's listening to us. Yeah. And it was something that none of us at that time had Googled,

although soon after, drawn in by the advertising, I did replace my gutters. We talked about this on air and your listeners were messaging in. I've got ads. Already got ads. We timed it, I think. I think it was 15 or 20 minutes was the first person that since we talked about it and their phone was with them and they were listening to the radio

that they got a targeted ad for gutters on one of the social media services. And forever, Facebook have come out and said, no, it's because people are Googling it. Your friends are Googling it and you're hanging out with your friends and it knows that you're near your friends and that's why you're getting ads. Yeah. They've always denied it. Yeah. But there's an old saying, if you're not your friends and that's why they're you're getting ads yeah they've always denied it yeah if you're not but there's an old saying if you're not paying for the product you

are the product you are yeah so you're getting these things for free so that you can be advertised to well uh a news article has come out with a leak uh a pitch deck which is like a presentation yeah it's like a pitch a a presentation for a media company, Cox Media Group, and it claims that its active listening software uses AI to collect and analyze real-time intent data by listening to what you say through your phone, laptop, or home assistant microphone.

So if you've got Alexas, you've got an iPad somewhere or a laptop, they're listening to everything. Is Alexa listening the whole time? I thought there was that massive lawsuit a couple of years ago where Alexa wasn't allowed to listen all the time now. Only when you say her name. Or they're not allowed to collect what they're

listening to all the time. Or sell it or something. I don't know. But yeah, the pitch goes on to tout Facebook, Google and Amazon as clients of this media group. So, I mean, more evidence that they are listening. Yeah. We shan't be surprised by this.

If they have the technology, they will use it. This is what the slide says. Number one, consumers leave a data trail based on their conversations and online behavior. It's creepy when they say it like that, isn't it? A data trail. AI collects and analyzes this behavioral and voice data from 470 plus sources. Yikes. Well, even remember the one card, those cards, those loyalty cards that supermarkets have,

can work things out about you before you can. It worked out that a teenage girl was pregnant, remember? That was overseas in America. I think it was a department store. And the dad hit the roof, and it turns out she was. Because, yeah, they analyze your spending and what you're buying. Yeah, it's crazy. And then they start targeting you with stuff.

But this literally happened to me last week. I forget what. We were talking about something, and I got an ad for it like 10 minutes later. I was like, of course. Right. Didn't Google anything. We were talking yesterday. It was in a chat, so it was written. So I don't know if that's different.

It is a little bit different, but we were talking about something I'd never talked about before. Yeah. And within like the day, members of that chat group were getting art about the, it was about a sort of a car. Some guy had taken two rare cars and mangled them together.

Car chat. I'd never talked about an R32 or something. I can't even remember. Within a day, everybody's getting, hey, buy this print of an R32 in the sunset and something. And it's just like, they didn't even wait. They didn't even give it a cooling down period. Yeah, like at least

give it a day or two. Give it a day or two so I could be like, what is an R32? Yeah. So I would be like, what were they talking about? And I could Google

and learn more, but no, they didn't even let it do that. It was just, I hate when you get targeted ads for stuff that you don't even, you're not even interested in.

No, you were just chatting. It's like, it was just a chat, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't need an R32, whatever it is. I don't even know what it is. I have to Google find out what it is.

I think it's... Right. Play. ZDM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah, blah. This is the Top Six. Hello there.

New Zealand now comes with a $100 entry fee. Pay at the gate. I don't know how they're going to collect that. Well, it's currently $35. Must be in the visa when you apply for your e-visa or whatever. It's going up. Yeah. It's going up to $100 per person.

That's okay, isn't it? Yeah. I think so. I think we're worth it. Are we worth it? I think we are. We're beautiful. I think we're worth it.

We're stunning. We're beautiful. I think we're worth it. We're stunning. We're gorgeous. I like the top six reasons New Zealand's worth the extra $100. Number six on the list, and I Googled it, sheep. Okay, a lot of them. Actually, the sheep, apparently, worth $100. Yeah. To see sheep, they're everywhere.

You're driving around, you just see them everywhere. We had that special moment in the South Island last week when we were driving and we had to stop because the sheep were all over the road. I love that.

Just out of Queenstown. Very Kiwi. Yeah, lovely. No, yeah, just out of Queenstown. Nah, more by Athol. Off the main. It's nice. The tourists just lose it.

It's there they were. They were taking photos. They were hanging out. Whereas we were just like, this is going to cost us. This is a lot of time. It's a they were. They were taking photos. They were hanging out. Whereas we were just like, this is going to cost us. This is a lot of time. It's a valuable time here. This is kind of coming out close as it was.

Number five on the list of the top six reasons New Zealand's worth the $100. Glaciers. Yeah. And by that, I mean you better come see them soon. They're melting very fast. And if you don't pay the $100, you're not going to get to see them.

Yeah, they are. They're retreating very fast. They are retreating. It's like the world is warming up. The climate's changing. Yeah. Interesting. But it snows heavily once a year, so this warming thing you've proposed is absolutely out the window.

Number four on the list of the top six are reasons New Zealand's worth the $100. Meat pies. So many great pies. We do great pies here. We've got the pie awards every year. Internationally, a lot of sweet pies. Yep. great pies. We do great pies here. We've got the Pie Awards every year. Internationally, a lot of sweet pies. Yep. Pasties.

Yeah. Kind of like the British pie. Australia does junk pies. We do good meat pies. I had some good pies in Fairleigh. That pie shop in Fairleigh is good. That's good pies. Oh, had one on the way through and then on the way back through because, you know, you

have to try the other ones. Well, you do, yeah, because you probably see a flavour you want to get. But you're not a piggy, so you're not getting two pies at once. You get a pie on the way back through. Yeah. Number three on the list of the top six reasons New Zealand's worth the extra $100, the smells. Oh, yeah. From the gentle sulphuric stench of Rotorua

to the burning tyres of a Hamilton burnout competition to the smell of silage and cow poo as you drive through rural Aotearoa. Yep. It's a joy for all the senses. Beautiful. Especially the smell. Student vomit on the streets of Dunedin.

Yeah. Can't go past it. Sort of cut through smell. Yep. Number two on the list of the top six reasons New Zealand's worth the extra $100, the wacky town statues. Yeah. Big carrots.

Big bottles of things. Big fish. Big fruit. Big fruit. Yeah. And Cromwell. We love that. And number one on the list of the top six reasons New Zealand's worth the $100.

The birds. Beautiful. It's all about the birds. It's all about the birds. Forget that. The sheilas? Forget. Nah, not the sheilas.

The birds as in the feathery birds. Yeah, yeah. I'm talking kiwi. Yakupo. Yakia. Weck is down the list. But it's on the list. Not seag the list. But it's on the list. But it's down the list.

Seagulls. We've got some good pigeons. No, pigeon. Yeah. The kereru. Yeah. The native pigeon. Penguins.

Beautiful. We've got them all. Yeah. That is today's Sub 6. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Well, a relationship, a holiday can be make or break for a relationship. A big major holiday. What's the old thing before you get married?

You should travel. There's three things you should do. Get a dog. Is that one? Is it one, get a pet? Is it live with your in-laws? And why does one suffer a significant loss? Really?

Is that what the things are? I've never heard that one. Yeah, go through a loss, Carmen. Just confirm. Go through a loss. To see how they handle it. To see how they handle loss. Right.

So I guess you could get the dog and then lose it. I mean, maybe. And then you'll be like, oh, you've passed the test. And they're like, wait, did you kill the dog? And you're like, yes. Well, therapists have kind of recommended about the six to seven month mark is when you should wait to take a major holiday. That's not like going away for a weekend to the Coromandel

or to Queenstown or something like that, right? Maybe it depends. I'd say you've got to travel significantly to get there. And you've got to be longer than a weekend. You've got to have a long-haul flight to really test the grumpiness, to test standing in queues. Let's make the rule. You've got to at least go somewhere with a different currency.

Yeah. Yeah, okay. I like that. Yeah, I know, the islands are relaxing. Because I would say you can use New Zealand currency in some of the islands. In Samoa. Samoa and Rarotonga. But you were about eight, seven or eight months? Eight months, yeah, I think.

And you went to Thailand in 2005 post-tsunami. That was only because everything was half price post-tsunami. Vaughan loves a disaster special. A disaster special. Yeah. Yeah. It's bad, but it's good. So first major, you'd been on weekends away though.

Yeah, I would have been. Well, we all went with kind of a work road trip around New Zealand. Yep. And that would have been like three or four months in. And then, but then there was a group of people there. Yep. So no, but no major stresses or anything? I don't recall any major stresses.

Okay. Yeah, stayed at a couple of real shit hotels. That was like, but then it was in the honeymoon period. So we didn't blame each other. We bonded together. Yeah, right. To be like, all we it was in the honeymoon period so we didn't blame each other. We bonded together. Yeah, right. To be like, all we've got to do

is get through this one night before we go to the islands. Because that is the other thing. You're in a honeymoon period too. Yes. Where it's freshen and you know. You know how each other work

but you're definitely in a honeymoon period. You're not annoying each other. No. No. But maybe it's quick to blame somebody when something goes wrong.

But maybe by that stage you are and that's what we wanted to ask this morning. How bad was the first couple's holiday? Maybe you're not together now because of it. Yeah. I mean, no one is calling up saying, yeah, it was terrible, but they're still together like five years later, right? No, because they could have had a terrible experience. They could have had a really bad trip, their first couple's away,

but it may have pushed them together, but the trip itself was bad. Yeah. Yeah. But I want to hear those stories. Because, I mean, having just gone on holiday recently, I saw so many couples fighting. And you could see, like, they weren't talking to each other. And you were just like, well, how are they going to last?

Yeah. Like, they're on holiday. They're not enjoying it. Nah. Having a big fight. I do love seeing people fight in beautiful locations. I know.

Yeah. Gorgeous. You're literally like a beach club in Bali where you're paid to get in and you're the one you have to go down the gondola to get to.

Yeah. Lovely. And then there's people parading around and the G-string's right up the butt and then I'm just like, oh, don't look for that too long.

And then you hear a couple of seats down. Some guy's getting absolutely torn to bits for looking at it for too long. For perving, yeah. He's like, what am I supposed to do? Yeah, but you have people fighting in these beautiful locations. Yeah. It's like, look up. Yeah.

All right, well, look up at the butt. Look up at the, oh, wait. Did you guys do that? Butt? We should all be happy that we all got to see that butt. A shared experience. Well, whether it was a fight over a butt. Oh, wait. Did you guys do that? Butt? We should all be happy that we all got to see that butt. A shared experience. Well, whether it was a fight over a butt or what, how bad was your first couple's holiday?

Maybe it ended your relationship. Maybe you were overseas somewhere amazing after only a few months into a relationship and it didn't work out. Play. ZM's Fletchvorn and Hayley. Psychologists? Therapists.

No, just therapists. Just therapists. Six to seven months, the ideal time for your first big overseas holiday as a couple, as a new couple. After getting together. Yep. Exclusively.

Yep. Not just kind of hooking up. Oh, yeah, you'd have to. It's when you say, will you be my boyfriend? Well, when you go around with me. Can I tell people that you're my girlfriend? That's official.

Will you go around with me? Yeah, will you go around with me? Can I tell people that you're my girlfriend? That's official. Will you go around with me? Yeah, will you go around with me? Also acceptable official ways to start a relationship. I want your boyfriend and girlfriend now. So we want to know how bad was your first couple's holiday? You know what? Some nice ones coming through. I don't want nice stories.

I don't want happy stories. Well, you take the good with the bad. My now wife and I went to Melbourne in 2017 after only dating for a year. During a time there, I proposed to her at the Melbourne Cup. Nothing's more romantic than watching horses get the shit beaten out of them running over a few hundred metres, you know? Romance. I'm not even saying a horse because you've had too many.

Yeah. The Alvino did flow. She said yes. Oh, nice. So I guess that's a successful first, their first triple way. He proposed. That's cool, yeah. Okay.

First holiday, five months in, went to the Coromandel, partner got gastro. Oh. No hiding from those sounds in a small Airbnb. Never seen him sicker to this day, but we're still together. You saw him at his worst.

And that also says a lot about this person that's messaged in. Yeah. That they have the sort of caring nature that rather than being completely grossed out, they were obviously like, are you okay? I would have got a whole nother Airbnb and just left them there. God, no one's ass should make that noise. Yeah.

Look, we've all been there. Is there a sea lion in there? That's currently why Hayley's not here with us this morning because that's why we're here. She's having a sea lion on her shower floor. My girlfriend of six months ended up hooking up with the Italian concierge at our hotel. Oh my god, that's like an episode of

White Lotus or something. Yeah. I love it. He didn't get a tip from me, but he gave a tip to her. Now I must tip my hat. I must tip my hat to that. That's good from you. Good from you. Those Italians, though, they're hot. This is a problem.

Also, don't take your new partner somewhere where everyone's hot. Take them to a minger country. Like, insert country here. Insert whatever country. Woke up in the middle of the night to an empty bed on our first trip overseas. Turns out he went out to meet up with some random foreigner girl he'd found on the map. That's not. See, this is the problem with overseas holidays,

is you quite often have to book them out in advance. So if you're with someone and then they get cold feet or they're not into it, they might just be staying with you for the holiday. Yeah, this doesn't sound like that. That just sounds like they literally took a shot. Also, that message and the one before the Italian one,

I want to know if these people could text me back. Did they fly back together on the same flight next to each other? Very interesting to know. Or separate seats

or just own way home. Yeah. And also says my good friend is six months. It doesn't say they broke up. I mean, it's safe to assume they did. Went to the Gold Coast with my boyfriend at the time.

The flight was okay. Then when we got there, when we got there, like we'd planned to do all the parks and stuff, but he kept complaining it was too hot and he didn't want to do anything. And then on holiday, he bought, he purchased on holiday,

he didn't bring with him, a Nintendo Switch. And then went into the room and proceeded to just play that the entire time we were there. During New Year's and didn't even stay up to bring in the New Year, he a Nintendo Switch. And then went into the room and proceeded to just play that the entire time we were there. During New Year's and didn't even stay up to bring in the New Year, he played Nintendo Switch and then went to sleep. And that text started with former boyfriend?

Yeah. I tell you what, it says a lot for the Nintendo Switch though. Does it? It really sells for the Nintendo Switch. My now ex-boyfriend discovered his sexuality at a certain club in Berlin. I mean, good for him. Wow.

Okay. Good for him. Okay. And then what happened after? They broke up. She can't provide what he needs. Yeah, I know, but like what? Did he just stay there in Berlin?

I don't have those. We can make it up. I mean, Berlin will do that to you. Well, okay. They just said he loves the D. What? Did he just stay there in Berlin? I don't have those. We can make it up. I mean, Berlin will do that to you. Well, okay. They just said he loves the D. We kind of drew that conclusion. Did he stay in Berlin?

Did he come home? Yep. Where is he now? A few more details. Yeah. Have you got a phone number or a picture? Top or bottom? Just give us all the details.

Just for our friends. We've got friends. We've got a lot of gay friends. It would be interesting. Just really paint the picture of him Two months in, nah he came home He's a power bottom Okay great Now we know

Were there signs Because that's the thing When the man is with the woman and it comes out And he's the bottom half There were signs You might not have seen signs. Everyone else, they saw the signs.

And it opened up their eyes. They saw the signs. That's what that song is about. Two months in, booked a trip to Bali. Oh, okay. Did one of those quick turnarounds like booked a trip

for a few weeks time. Oh, okay. I'll remember those days when you could do that. Oh, yeah. It didn't cost you literally an arm and a leg. Yeah. Learned a lot about each other. Both got Bali belly at could do that. Oh, yeah. It didn't cost you literally an arm and a leg. Yeah.

Learned a lot about each other. Both got barley belly at the same time. Oh, yeah. The same time. Oh. Well, at least you're both in the same boat. Yeah. I don't know who's going out to get the gastro.

Yeah, I guess so, yeah. We had the best time. We went in the honeymoon phase. Yep. When our annoying tendencies were still cute and didn't drive each other up the wall. Yeah. And now what?

You just hate each other, but you deal with it. I didn't end our relationship, but it might have been because of the outcome of my crazy. I went back to the UK with my English boyfriend for Christmas. It was a year in. It was my first long haul flight experience. And I was terrified of getting deep vein thrombosis. So much so

that when I noticed I had swollen ankles as we flew out of Frankfurt, I freaked out and got put in the back of the plane. The panicking induced vomiting. So then I was vomiting everywhere in the back of the plane. Something happened on the way home and I was hospitalized. He was not sympathetic.

We then found out I was pregnant the whole time, not dying. Wow. Okay. What an adventure. What a horrible adventure. Some wild stories today. Also terrible to find. Great way to find out the person you're about to have a baby with isn't sympathetic to your pain.

Yeah. And you're pregnant. Yeah. What a great end to the holiday. Mmm. Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Play ZM. Well, he joins us in studio.

Bad news, Brad. Is it all bad news, Brad? No, I think we're getting better. Oh! Now, Brad, what's your official title again? I can never remember. Chief Economist. Chief Executive and Principal Economist.

Just try and double up on them, you know. Yeah, at Infometrics. That's the one. Now, we always see you on the TV with, you know, your takes on the economy. Who's your favourite people to talk to? You've got a real good chemistry with Jeremy and Hill. Oh, I was going to say the Fletchville and Hayley show, but is that not the right answer? I meant the telly. Oh, the telly. Obviously, radio-wise.

Okay, normally with the telly, I'm talking to myself into a big camera somewhere down in Wellington. So honestly, I mean, I feel like it's a bit vain to say myself, but that seems to be the norm. Now, if Hayley was here today, because she's at home sick, if Hayley was here today, she would probably say something along the lines of,

you told me to fix my mortgage for a year and it's gone down. Look, I'm not going to lie when I came in. I thought you said six months. I thought we all agreed we were keeping it on the six months. Last time I came in, I do think I said that a lot more people were fixing it six months. Remember, guys, I never give the official advice. No, not a financial advisor, that's what you said.

But a lot more people were. We were seeing about 20% or so of Kiwis that were fixing for six months and that was in anticipation of interest rates being cut. Now, to be honest, I didn't think it was going to happen this quick. I'm glad that it has but I didn't think it would. But then a couple of weeks ago, Reserve Bank came out and they said, you know, enough's enough. The economy looks

pretty challenging at the moment so let's bring those interest rates down. First time we've had a cut in a couple of years. Still high, but paints a direction for where interest rates are going, so you're starting to see those things fall down. Who is it the most challenging for? The economy, as it stands. The young people.

Young people. First-time buyers? Yeah, well, I think it's sort of in two ways. So for the likes of you young people, you're seeing that unemployment is still going up. Two thirds of the increase in unemployment so far over the last year has been for under 30s. So, you know, it's just because, look, as a young person, you know...

And what was that study yesterday? It was like 19% of young people don't... There was no hope or something for the future. Oh, jeez. Are we there? Like for their prospects, like job prospects or something like that. I forget what it was. It is more challenging.

I mean, the challenge there, right, is that if you're a business and you're struggling on costs and you're having to start to let some people go, do you keep the person with 20 years experience or no experience? Now, generally, businesses will keep their experience. But I must say in this day and age when digital technology and that is all important, who do you want on staff to be able to get you into the future? No, you want the new innovative young people. No, Brad!

Old white guys. With their big fonts on their screens so they can see. Yeah, and their clicks on their keypad. Click, click, click. Constantly asking how to connect to the Wi-Fi. I think, though, I think the other, you're right, though, as well, about the first-time buyers. You know, like people who are at the moment

still on some pretty big interest rates. Yeah, they're coming down, but they're not coming down sort of super swiftly. Like, I think they've come down about 30, 40 basis points, so 0.4 percentage points on the one-year rate over the last month or two. So that's something, but again, takes a little while for it to come in.

I think we've probably got another, for a lot of people, they've probably still got six to nine months on average before they start to come down onto that lower interest rate. We do think they keep falling. We think that, you know, the official cash rate will be cut for the rest of this year. Every sort of meeting, there's another one in October, there's another one in November. Cuts for both of those are the forecast.

Cut in every meeting from February to June or so next year. But I still think it's going to be one of those are the forecast cut in every meeting from February to June or so next year but I still think it's going to be one of those things that people are in a tough position at the moment but they're starting to see a bit more light and because of that you've seen the highest business confidence in a decade so there's actually a bit coming through. And what about at the supermarket

things getting a bit cheaper? Yeah well I mean it depends on what you're buying but yeah you're definitely seeing some better options coming through there. The likes of some of your produce has actually come down a touch. Still some things that you've got to be a bit careful about. We were looking the other day,

I think it was olive oils up like 80, 88% or something silly from a couple of years ago. It's also an overrated oil. What's the go-to? Oh, Vaughan, it's good for your health. Extra virgin. Oh, yeah. Avocado oil for salads for your health. Extra virgin. Oh, yeah, okay. Avocado oil for salads.

And never cook with olive oil. Never heat olive oil. Oh, that's, yeah. Can we get, like, a cooking show episode, please? I'm a rice brand guy when it comes to the high smoke point, doesn't burn, doesn't have a strong flavour. Okay, do any of us actually know about this high smoke point thing? Like, I never try it.

Just pour it on the pan, don't you? Yeah, never olive oil, please. Changes it. The other two that you still should be a little bit cautious about buying, dried apricots and rado. Not a problem for me. I'm not Middle Eastern. I'm not a dried apricot person.

I'm not a dried apricot guy either. But now that you've said it, I want one. Yeah. Because they're still a bit juicy. Dates? Yum. Dates are good. I don't know how to get dates.

Oh, you mean the fruit? No, I was going to say it's a bit cheaper. Oh, Brad. Oh, Brad. Sorry. That took the tone down a bit, didn't it?

Because that was bad news. Yeah. What else, economy-wise? Oh, I mean, at the moment, I think we're all sort of just waiting for how quickly those interest rates come through. But also a little bit like how quickly it affects the housing market.

We all know how much Kiwis love to talk about the housing market. We either want to buy it cheap or want it to go up once we've got a house so that we make more money in that. We're starting to see a little bit more. Some of the numbers out recently suggested people are looking at houses a bit more, so I hate some options out there. What about rents for those that don't own? Are they going to come down because interest rates those that um don't own are they going

to come down because interest rates are coming down rents never go down right well rents don't come down because of interest rates that's for i remember you know in the last couple of years you talk to your landlord and that and people like oh well interest rates gone up so i must put your rent up i'm like but when interest rates went down in 2020 during the pandemic you didn't drop my rent so like come on fair's fair yeah uh but I think what you asked, I want to see, like Wellington's an interesting example. Obviously there's been a lot of job cuts and a lot of people, a lot of young people heading overseas. But what it's meant is that there's a lot of people who are leaving their rentals, not as many people coming in to fill them. So actually rents are going down or moving sideways

in Wellington because there's a bit more competition. Right, there's a bit more space. Right. So as you start to get more houses, you know, we've built a lot of houses the last couple of years, and I think as you get more of those sort of coming online, as those interest rates are dropping, I think if you're someone who's got a house and you want to be a landlord, you're having to be a lot more cutthroat with who's actually coming in

because you need someone to help pay your mortgage, to help with that cash flow. And at the moment, there's sort of slimmer pickings than before. So maybe a little bit more opportunity. Maybe don't pay less rent. Maybe get a nicer house though. What about people who were maybe in the position where they're thinking,

I've got enough equity in my house or a bit of cash. I'm going to buy a rental. It doesn't seem to be the good investment that it once was. Well, yeah, not nearly as much as it was previously. I mean, previously you were making more money as a house than if you were made out of flesh and bones, right? I wanted to become a house, but apparently it's impossible.

You didn't try the Transformers method? I didn't try. You didn't try hard enough. You didn't believe in yourself. It's very hard to get a family inside of me to, you know, live. Yeah, and I'm poorly insulated. I don't meet the standards. Are you not double-glazed? I'm not double-glazed. I'm leaking everywhere. I've got holes.

It's drafty. It's, uh, yeah. You are not healthy homes combined. Not at all. What would people be better to invest in now? Well, I mean, like, at the moment, right, if you're an investor. Farming. I'll just jump in here. I've got an ideal for you, Vaughn. Ostrich farming. Eggs!, the max.

You can make a lot of omelettes with that sort of stuff. Huge omelettes. That's what I'm hoping. But, I mean, if you're an investment property, you're probably having to chuck in a couple hundred bucks a week to make that, like, viable and repay the bank. So, like, if you're trying to make an investment return but you're having to give away cash every week,

you're probably on a bit of a loss. I mean, at the moment, it's interesting, right, and I've been fascinated. A lot of friends have started coming to me and sort of say, hey, I was putting my money into a term deposit, you know, because I wanted a bit of a loss. I mean, at the moment, it's interesting, right? And I've been fascinated. A lot of friends have started coming to me and sort of say, hey, I was putting my money into a term deposit, you know, because I wanted a bit of interest, but, you know, interest rates are coming down, so that's not good for savers. It means you start to make less money on those fronts as well.

So people are casting around a bit. Everyone's still a little bit shaky on the stock market. Was it two weeks ago that the market sort of dropped suddenly and everyone was like, alarm bells, you know, Japan's looking weird, the US is looking weird, where do we put our money? So a little bit more caution, I think, out there. People are considering their options. But I think if you're in it for the long term,

that's probably your better option. If you're looking for a get-rich-quick scheme, I feel like everyone's got a great idea. Ostrich farming, perhaps, but I don't know if it happens quite as quickly. Okay. Easy come, easy go. So that's a glimmer of hype from bad news, Brad. I think we've seen light at the end of the economic tunnel. I think there are

those greener shoots starting to emerge I'm a bit more confident about next year. I think next year we'll be able to say, look, we are through the worst of it. We're starting to see some of that actual better activity. I'm not going to say it's going to be that we're firing away, because that's sort of how we got ourselves into this place. But hey, some better news to come.

Who's your pick for bird of the year? I haven't looked yet. Are you going to try it on and tell me who I need to vote for? I wouldn't dare be a mouthpiece for the couple. I've been accused of being a mouthpiece for the leaf gear on the show. I'm a team kitty do. It's just a

fat plump. Isn't the car car making a return to Wellington? Oh, yeah. There's been some of those near my house recently. Okay, maybe go for that one. Yeah. Bad news, Brad. Brad Olsen, thank you so much for coming in this morning.

Thank you. Well, the New Zealand spy people. GCB. GSB. No, NZSIS. NZSIS. No, that's the insurance company. New Zealand Spies Insurance Spies.

Spies Insurance Spies. Spies Insurance. No, the New Zealand Security Intelligence Service released on Tuesday. It does a big report. What happened to the GCSB? The Government Communication Security Bureau. That's another one.

Well, that's another department. You've got more than one spy department. I don't know how it works, Vaughan. That's a lot of trench coats. Maybe they collect the information for the spies. Yeah, I don't know. But isn't that the job of the spies? I don't know.

Well, look, they've released a report saying that in the past two years, there have been overseas government agencies or spy agencies trying to recruit New Zealanders, trying to get information out of us. What countries? Well, they don't say because I don't want to start a thing. That's what a spy would say. That's what you know and you're not telling me because you're a spy for china i'm not a spy for you know what i'd be a great spy do you think i'd be a great spy um you'd be pretty good thank you you'd have a vice though

they'd get you they'd get you they'd find out they'd work out your vice louis with a honey trap do you know how you'd be you'd fall into get you. They'd find out. They'd work out your vice. They'd lure you with a honey trap. Do you know how? You'd fall into a honey trap. What? And then I'd fall in love with them? I doubt it. You know they'd just gun you down.

What? They'd gun me down. What a way to go. What a way to go. And a honey trap. Yeah. Yeah. What did the honey trap you that invite you to a barbecue,

a meat barbecue festival. Do I get to eat the meat before they shoot me? Yeah. Okay, I'm happy. What a way to go. And then they shoot you. And I'll be like, I know you guys are going to shoot me, but can we have a few more beers first?

I'm just really getting, you know. I'm relaxing. I'm in the sun. Let's have another hamburger. Do New Zealand spies get all the gadgets? Like could this watch be more than a watch because of shell lasers? We get our spy gadgets off Timu. In fact, I'm going to go to Timu and search

in spy gadgets, but then what if that triggers that little golf ball thing outside of Blenheim? Well, no, they got rid of the golf ball thing. I think they just do it all on the internet now. Okay, Timu's got hidden cameras. They'll be handy. It's a pen with a camera in it and a 32 gigabyte

recording capacity for 28 New Zealand dollars. Okay. And then what, you just put the pen down in our spy meeting and then talk to them about spy things? Yeah, or I put it in my pocket and point it at you and I record spy things. That's going to look so obvious when you've got a pen sticking out of your, what, T-shirt? It's in my pocket. Okay, so you'll wear a special pocket. Okay, right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't think that they'd be trained to look for pens sticking out of pockets with a hole in them? Everybody's always carrying pens. Okay. They'll be like, have you got a pen? Is it a big pen, though? Does it look like an everyday pen?

No, it looks like a nice, it looks like that nice pen I've got somewhere. Okay. Yeah. Oh, okay, here's some other spy gear. Okay, go. On Teemu. It's a hairbrush, and you take the the top off and you can hide money in it.

Okay. Right. A retro pirate telescope. Yep. Don't know. What, for pirate spies? Not very discreet anymore. No.

There's a camera detector. Oh, okay. For $5.87 you can buy what is described as a hotel hidden camera detector and you put it on and it will make the lens like lighter. Oh, see, that'd be good for the Airbnbs because sometimes you wonder if the Airbnb hosts have an appur. Yeah. There's lots of neat little spy gadgets.

Most of them are just places to hide things to hide. Right, okay. Like there's lots of hairbrushes or fake water bottles with fake bottoms in it so you can hide money. Or Sharpies that aren't even Sharpies you take the end off. Well, they are a functioning Sharpie, but only in the nib. And then you pull it out and you can hide money. Money.

Or whatever you hide in there. Now, I know we talked about this a while ago when it was rumoured to be a feature. The new iOS 18 on Apple phones is released soon, but the beta, do you say beta or beta? The beta. The beta version. The public beta. You can download this. So I downloaded it last night on my phone just because I wanted this, like some new watch features as well that you can use, yada, yada. But one of the features that people think could be maybe causing a few issues in relationships

is the fact that you will now be able to lock apps with your face. Oh, individual apps. Yes. So I was like, oh, I'm going to lock my banking apps because then if I lost my phone and someone could get into it with my pin because you know quite often my banking apps are all already faced yeah mine are already faced

and there's like apps I was like well I'll just lock those and if you want to access your saved password list that's a face unlock that's a face unlock as well but you're saying a Facebook messenger yes could be face locked

so if you were getting messages and you had that thing where it says because you can turn off your preview. So it says new message, but it doesn't say any of the details who it's from or whatever. And then your partner tries to unlock it and they can't because they don't have your face.

Because they don't have your face. And you can't use their pin code if you know it. Because there's no circumventing that. Oh goodness me. So yeah, if you face lock messenger, it will just come up with a notification that you have a new message. It doesn't preview the message anymore. And you can also lock your photo album.

You can lock any app on your phone. Now, I think Android, you have been able to do this with third-party apps. If you download another app, it will let you then do it. Right. Or you could hide it in maybe locked folders. Goodness me. But, yeah, this is pretty crazy. It means you can lock.

But it's also good for parents as well because then if you don't want your kids going in your photo album, you could face lock that. Yeah, you can lock it all. Or you could face lock your banking so you can't steal money from you. You can lock it all apart from the apps that they want to use. Yeah, any app. I mean, you could lock the Herald app, the news app if you wanted to. It's kind of good.

It's a good feature. There's devious intent. I believe there may be devious intent. It's in case somebody got hold of your phone, right? People will use it for devious intent. Yeah, because there's been cases like people might be on a train or a bus and see someone put in their PIN code and then steal their phone.

Yeah, and they've got their PIN code, which chances are that's their PIN code for everything. Exactly, whereas if you've got your face on your important apps. Yeah. What other features does this new iOS have? Anything worth mentioning? Not really. Any new emojis?

Just some new things you can do, some colour schemes and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, but I mean, that's going to cause some relationship arguments, isn't it? Why have you locked messenger? Yeah, exactly Terry, what are you hiding? Yeah

Who's messaging you? Show me, open it now Yeah, sure, come and look in the boys chat Where we're all just sending each other AI generated images of silly cars The weird thing is, like, horrendous Get in there She'll be like, oh god, you're as boring as I suspected. Tori Spelling.

Famous for being, I would say, the original Nepo baby. Her father, Aaron Spelling, created Beverly Hills 90210 and then cast his daughter as one of the main six characters. Yeah, absolutely. OG Nepo baby. OG Nepo baby. She has a seven-year-old son and she has said her parenting hack is

she gets him dressed the night before into the clothes that he'll wear the following day for school. So she doesn't have to wrestle with him in the morning

it's already done. In the morning she's like, wake up, we're going to school and he's already dressed. Eat this and brush your teeth. Amazing. And he's ready to go because he's already dressed.

Yeah. That's a great parenting hack. Amazing. It'll work well when they're young, but then boys, nah, do they need to shower in the morning? They need to shower at night. Maybe. Maybe he's a night shower.

Yeah, shower at night and doesn't shower in the morning. Could happen. Yeah. Could work. Could work. And so we want to open up the phone lines, the text machine, either your parenting hacks or now looking back on it, the hacks your parents used on you.

I mean, you're a parent of two girls. You must have taken some shortcuts. My number one parenting hack, and people I tell this to are like, that's all it takes to get a weekend sleep in is you make them a lunch the night before. A lunch breakfast. Okay. So you make them a lunch box and you say in the morning when you get up,

turn on the telly, lunch is in the specially marked container in the fridge. Yep. It's also exciting if they're just around. You've also got to be out. I do every now and then realise how lucky I was to have two daughters

who weren't maniacs. Yep. Because I've got nephews that you could have. Oh, because imagine having two sons. You come out and you're like, how the hell is there a zebra in the lounge? Yeah, and why are you holding the skill source?

Put that down. And where's your brother's legs? Yeah. So they were relaxed. So there were sort of kids you could trust to get up, like tiredly stumble to the fridge, grab their little lunch boxes, grab their juice box.

And you'd sleep in. And then you get an extra hour and a bit of sleep. And also you did say, if you come up season, wake me up, I'll smack you. And you were going to you get an extra hour and a bit of sleep. And also you did say if you come up season wake me up I'll smack you. And you were going to get smacked and thrown straight back down the stairs. It's a real 80s parenting.

Yeah. Just sprinkle in the 80s parenting. Yeah. So we want to know parenting hacks of those listening. So it can be something a parenting hack shortcut

that your parents took. Maybe it was just leave you at home with all the food and they went out to the casino. There's laws against that. There's laws against that, yeah. 0800-

There's laws against leaving you home to go to the casino but not leaving you in the car at the casino. Yeah, or maybe mum and dad went out and their hack was just give you fish and chips and then see you later. Or take you to the pub and just put you on the pokies machine that wasn't plugged in. See, that's not good either. Okay, 0800-DARLS-AT-EM, we want to take your calls now.

You can text through 9696. Your parenting hacks, please. The wilder, the better. And it can be things that your parents did as well with you. We're talking about your parenting hacks, getting your kids dressed the night before. It's lazy parenting hacks. Yeah. The lazier the better. A celebrity that's

gone viral for dressing her kid the night before school in school clothes and then just says, wake up, go to school, get in the car. Grab a Russian pillow and make up. Genius. That's not all that uncommon. Yeah. Some messages in from people who have done the same thing.

Okay. And they said when they're little, yeah, they don't. You just get them out and they're already dressed and away you go. Sometimes they said in winter you can even put the socks on them. It's kind of like making your lunch the night before in the fridge and then you just pop it out in the morning. You're ready to go. It's ready to go. Yeah.

Love it. Rachel, what is your lazy parenting hack? My lazy parenting hack is I will tell the kids that when I wake up in the weekend, we're going to clean the house. So they let me sleep in because they don't want to get up and clean the house. Oh, my God. That is genius. You need some kind of award for that.

I'm just far too lazy, honestly. I want to sleep in. Yeah. I love that. So when you get up, do you actually clean so they know it's not an empty threat? Absolutely. I use it sparingly. I don't use it all the time because then it becomes

a thing. You've got to have a few on rotate, otherwise they start to smarten up. Absolutely. I love the psychological manipulation and the lies. It's healthy. It's a healthy thing that definitely won't require a therapist. Love it. Rachel, thank you. Chantal, good morning. What's your lazy parenting hack? Good morning, guys. Timelessness first time caller. Oh, don't we miss that? You cut out.

Long time listener, first time caller. Yay! Welcome, welcome to the show. So I have a little bit of a story. This isn't necessarily my parenting hat, but what my parents did with me and my sister. So when we were kids, they owned their own automotive workshop. And essentially to keep us out of the way, especially as babies, they would sit us in one of those wheeled activity centre things. Yep, like a baby walker thing. Yeah, they sat us in one of those

and would tie us to the dumpster. And so we could only walk in essentially half circles, half moons. Kind of like when you tie up a goat so it can only eat that little bit of lawn. I'm currently doing this on my lawn as it's too wet to mow. The goats are doing the hard yards.

Yeah, so they knew where we were. They could see us, but we couldn't get in the way. I love that. What year would this have been? Because it's got a real 80s feel to it, but you sound too young. Well, I was born in 92, so mid-late 90s. Okay. Rural, what part of New Zealand did you grow up in?

Well, so I actually grew up in Australia. Oh, right. Yeah, I go with that. That's perfect sense. Oh, that's brilliant. There's snakes and stuff out there. Oh, yeah, snakes. Yeah, dingoes, all sorts.

That was pretty fresh in the memory of the nation there. All right, Chantel, thank you so much. Aunt Julia, good morning. What was your lazy parenting hack? Morning. So I was a single mum of two boys and a girl. Yeah. And they're teenagers now, but when they were babies or like toddlers,

I used to pour the exact right amount of milk into a bottle, put it in the fridge and put their cereal on the bench with glad wrap over it so they could feed themselves with their breakfast before waking me up. And they felt a bit grown up because they were preparing their own breakfast, but you'd done all the measuring in the hard yards. Yeah, so they didn't want to wake me up. I used it until my two-year-old decided to try to copy his brother and poured out a three-liter milk on the floor.

That'll take some cleaning. That'll take you for sleeping in. So many towels with milk. Thanks you, Cole. More lazy parenting hacks. I used to feed my toddlers in the bath. Mess-free kitchen, especially spaghetti. And then you could just hose them down with a handset

shower bed. Yeah, they'd drag the shower bed out and give them a hose, give the whole. And then you can just hose them down with a handset. Yeah. Drag the shower bed out and give them a hose. Give the whole area a hose down. Might have to finger a couple of Froot Loops down the plug hole though. Or Coco Pops. Yeah. Or the spaghetti. The spaghetti might wiggle its way down the bath. Yeah. Life hack. The times that the kids wake

mummy or daddy or uncle. Okay. Maybe he's... Do you reckon uncle's in quotation marks? Uncle's having a sleepover again? It feels like big, just call him uncle. Yeah, yeah. And you think it's a throuple with kids in this situation.

Is that what you think? I don't know. Okay. Or it could just be... Or dads are fly in, fly out, so sometimes uncle sleeps over. No, it could just be the uncle lives with them. Lives with them, helping out. Wake up the uncle.

He's living here under our roof. You've watched too many documentaries. You think this is something nefarious. There's something going on here. Yeah, it's not. The time that the kids wake mummy or daddy or uncle up on a Saturday morning is the time they go to bed on Saturday night. So if they wake up at 6.30, they're going to bed at 6.30.

What a genius rule. That's actually really good. That's really good. Because they're going to... And then they're not going to wake you up at 6.30, they're going to bed at 6.30. What a genius rule. That's actually really good. That's really good. Because they're going to... And then... They're not going to wake you up. Yeah, no. And then all you've got to do is set your alarm for the time you want the kids to be in bed that night.

Yeah, but what if they hide till 1pm? And then they're like... They hide. Well, technically you're awake, so the timing stops. Yep. My mum shipped me off to boarding school and rented out my room so I couldn't come home on the weekends. That's actually just sad, actually. Sorry for you. I don't know if that's a lazy parenting

hack because they were still paying for you to go to boarding school. But it must be hard being at boarding school knowing that your parents don't love you. And you can't go home because uncle's in your room. Because uncle... Even though you slept in. Even though you didn't wake anybody up.

Even though you slept in until 9am. Uncle's still there. Yeah. And when you do go home on the weekends, you've got to go to bed super early because they want to use the lounge for whatever uncle's there for. Yeah. My parenting hack is living next door to my parents.

Oh, yeah, free babysitting. That's cool, but ask your partner how they feel about their in-laws being within breath. I'm just saying, not for my case in particular. Oh, yeah, because you love, you love. I just, yeah. Big fan. Big yeah. Big fan. Big fan.

Big fan. Big fan. My parents' hack was having a child in the 80s when the house cost $30,000. Yeah, good. Yeah, that was good. Rub it in. Lots of people doing dinner in the bath.

Someone else said, I feed my kids dinner at afternoon tea time. They're always starving after school and kindy, so they eat everything on their plate, whereas if you leave it a little bit later, they'll snack, and then they'll be picky eaters at dinner time. Oh, that's a good idea. So I feed them an afternoon dinner.

If they're hungry again, that's when they have their version of afternoon tea. That's when I have dinner, like 3.34. Love it. Your kids are going to grow up to be like Fletch, I'll bring them with that baby. In bed by 7? 7.45? Yeah, stop now, stop now. Feed them late, feed them late. Play ZM's Fletch, you're up right with that baby. In bed by 7? 7.45? Yeah, stop now.

Stop now. Feed them late. Feed them late. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. We're talking about the Paralympics all week this week. And I watched some of the swimming last night. And boy, was I inspired not to go near a pool because those people are so quick.

And I've got all my limbs and I'm able-bodied and I would embarrass myself. Yeah, that was pretty inspiring. It's nuts how it is. Everything you watch's pretty inspiring, eh? It's nuts. It is. Everything you watch at the Paralympics, so inspiring. Amazing, like I said yesterday, the Olympics, you're like, wow, that's amazing. The Paralympics, you're like, wow, that's amazing. And awfully inspiring and making me feel terrible.

Yeah. But boy, some athletes there. So we're concentrating on the Paralympics all week this week. Producer Shannon sent me this yesterday saying, what about a fact of the day about people that have competed at both the Olympics and the Paralympics? Ooh, okay. And there are not that many examples of it. So I would focus on two.

One, a New Zealander. Nerily Fairhall was born in 1944 on Christchurch. She took up archery following a motorcycle accident that paralysed her from the waist down, ending her previous athletics career. She'd always been, you know, out there for the track and field. Okay. She won gold at the Commonwealth Games in Brisbane for archery in 1982.

She competed at the Los Angeles Olympic Games in 1984 and finished 35th, but also competed at the Summer Paralympics in 1972, 1980, 1988, and the year 2000. Okay. For archery. So that's a New Zealander doing it well. Yeah.

She was, I want to get this right, paraplegic. Okay. When she competed at the Olympics. Oh, I was going to ask what she... But she was so good, she as a paraplegic competed at the Olympics. Okay. And also went to the Paralympics.

Yep. Of the same year. Because I guess archery is, you're either standing or sitting, right? Like it doesn't matter. Yeah. Now the first person to have won and one of the,

I think one of the only people, there's a couple of people who have won medals at both the Olympics and the Paralympics. The other examples are cyclists. You know, when the blind cycling, the vision impaired cycling. Yeah. They need a guide. So it's like a tandem bike. And I believe the guide goes at the front and steers and the other person.

Are they allowed to pedal though? Yes, they are. But both win medals. Right. So the other ones that have won Olympic medals and Paralympic medals are people with sight who are guides for Paralympic athletes. Okay. But the one who has won both medals

at the Olympics and the Paralympics was a Hungarian fencer called Pell Sikeres. He won a bronze medal in 1988 at the Summer Olympics in Seoul. And in 1991, he was in a bus accident. I've seen a picture of the bus accident. And it wasn't just like a nose to tail with the... It was off the transport.

No, it was a burst. Oh, jeez. The carcass of the bus was just bursting into flames. Oh, wow. And a massive collision with a truck. Okay. In that accident, he ended up was a burst. Oh, jeez. The carcass of the bus was just bursting into flames. Oh, wow. It had a massive collision with a truck. Okay. In that accident, he ended up in a wheelchair, and so he took up wheelchair fencing.

He won gold at the 1992 Summer Paralympics in Barcelona, two gold at Atlanta in 1996, a bronze in 2000, 2004, and 2008, as well as the bronze medal that he won for fencing in 1988. Wow. That's before his bus accident in 1991. And he's 59 years old. Huh. Amazing. I wouldn't be speaking older having competed

that well. Yeah. So that's today's fact of the day is a New Zealand archer has competed at both the Paralympics and the Olympics and a Hungarian fencer has won medals at both. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Yeah. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.

Play ZM. Four now. You know this has been plaguing me. And you know I was like, do I talk about this? There was a two-minute voice message, voice note in our group chat. A 15-second voice message saying prepare yourself for the incoming voice message. Oh, who's calling me? Let me know.

Oh, now that freaked me out. What if they heard of that? Anyway, so yesterday and recently, I've been trying to go to the gym more often. Yep. And I'm a cardio boy. We've talked about this. Yeah, you watch your iPad. I watch a lot of shows. I do a cardio boy. We've talked about this. Yeah, you watch your iPad. You watch a lot of shows.

I do the cardio. I do five minutes of quite hard out cardio. Then I stop and I'll do some sort of weight regime thing. These bits, what are these called? Dumbbell curls. I've been getting back into the pull-ups now. Oh, you're good. 100 a day.

How's your back with doing 100 a day? You must be absolutely ripped on the back. Back and neck is, oh, I thought you meant like sore-wise. Oh, no. Back and neck is fine. Okay, good. At the moment, touch wood. Touch wood, yeah.

So yesterday, after, so I run all up. It's an hour on the treadmill at 12.5 k's an hour. I'm covering 12.5 kilometres. Yep. Along with 100 pull-ups. Yep. He's a sweaty boy. I'm there to do it.

I'm not going to go on pussyfoot. I'm not going for an inclined walk. it. I'm not going to go on pussyfoot. I'm not going for an inclined walk. I'm not going for five minutes. You're not going to do a set of exercises and be on your phone for 10 minutes? I'm 40. How old am I? 42 years old. This is my last push.

Well, something seriously bad happens and I'm just like, give up. Begin the slow slide into elderly obesity. Boy, I'm looking forward to that. That's going to be some sweet stuff. Yeah. Mr. Smith, you've got type 2 diabetes. Oh, well.

I knew I was going to try to keep it tight for a while. But by then you'll be able to just take a pill. The Ozempic pill. That's the hope. They'll chuck me on one of those. So I'm honking, man. I'm sweating. Wait, sorry to interrupt,

but Jared is asking if those pull-ups were assisted pull-ups. No assisted pull-ups. And not- Wow. Not assisted pull-ups. Not with the machine. And not this guy, this guy. Those are hard.

Wide, what do you call this? Wide grip pull-ups. Wide grip pull-ups. Yeah. And not the ones where you've got your wrists facing you. Yeah, because those are easier. Your face against. Face away.

Good muscles. Thanks. It's good. Yeah. There was a guy who was in way better shape than me and he couldn't do it unassisted. I'm just like, all show, this guy's all go. Yeah.

So I'm feeling pretty good. Yeah. Got the parts back in. But I am, like, I, if you'll excuse the language, piss sweat at the gym. Yeah. Like, proper drip. I drip.

Yeah. Like, I'm dripping. I'm not bald. I'm not. Sorry, I'm bald. There's no hair to catch it. I'm not wearing a hat. It proper drip. I drip. Yeah. Like I'm dripping. I'm not bald. I'm not. I'm sorry. I'm bald. There's no hair to catch it. I'm not wearing a hat.

Flowing. Sometimes I'll use a bike after a class at the gym and there is like literally a pools of sweat on the floor. I don't know how people sweat that much. I'm a wiper. I wipe everything I use. Okay. Thoroughly.

Stair machine. Big wipe. I keep the stair machine going and I put it on a slow speed and I wipe every single step. Oh, that's nice. I don't want anyone stepping on my sweat. Yeah, that's good.

If I use the mats, I'll give them the big wet towel wipe. Yeah, good. Well, you're a sweaty boy. I'm a sweaty boy and I know this. Okay.

So I'm finished my workout. I'm grabbing my bag. Sade sent me a list of stuff we need from the supermarket. So I'm getting ready to go. What's she doing? Filling up though. She's cleaning the house and the supermarket's right next to the gym.'m getting ready to go. What's she doing? Filling up those. She's cleaning the house

and the supermarket's right next to the gym. Oh, you're fair. That's fair. So I am getting ready, filling up the protein shaker. Yeah. Going to have a little

post-gym workout, bro. Get them gains, bro. Yeah. Someone from the gym comes over. I was like, you're doing really, man, you've been coming

pretty regularly. You're doing pretty good. And I was like, oh yeah, thanks. And they said, you know, you're really like, you're sprinting on the treadmill. I'm like, you're doing really, man, you've been coming pretty regularly. You're doing pretty good. And I was like, oh, yeah, thanks. And they said, you know, you're really like, you're sprinting on the treadmill. I'm like, yeah, cheers. Pull-ups, good, good, good, good, good. I'm like, yeah, yeah, cool, cool.

And I'm thinking this is just one of those like courtesy things of the work going to the gym. But, and please don't mention this on your podcast. Okay. I just walked past there when you were finishing up on the treadmill and I did notice quite a serious body odour issue. And I was like, this is the worst conversation. It's been going for 15 seconds and this is easily the worst conversation I've ever had in my life.

I was like. You are that person. I was like, what? And she's like, I just walked past there at the end. Oh, no. And there was a smell. I was like, yeah, I'm at the end of a workout. Yeah.

Like you're sweating. I'm a sweaty bitty. Do I smell when I walk in? No, no, no, no, no. I was like, okay. I'm not allowed to smell at the end. And she's like, there's deodorant down there. And I was like, oh, okay. I'm not allowed to smell at the end. And she's like, there's deodorant down there.

And I was like, I always put on deodorant when I get to the gym and get changed. I always put on deodorant. Yeah, yeah. Before I start. Yeah. And at the end,

I'm a sweaty boy. Yeah. So, okay. I don't know what to do with this. And she, and I was, and then like,

I was trying to lie to them and I said, oh, should I stop halfway through and go into an application and she was like that's a good idea and I was like this is so I wouldn't even know where to look this is horrible

horrible so I'm like okay and then I go and I'm having a shower there because I'm going to the supermarket I was like in the back of my mind do I need a shower before the supermarket or should I just do that quick thing where you run in and grab yourself well now I'm having a shower there because I'm going to the supermarket. I was like in the back of my mind, do I need a shower before the supermarket? Should I just do that quick thing where you run in and grab yourself? Well, now I'm showering. I haven't had such a thorough shower in years.

I scrubbed myself nearly raw. Okay, yeah. And then applied both the deodorant. Dude, I sniffed. I've done nothing but sniff since. I'm on five-minute sniff. Nothing. So far, I'm good.

Today, I'm wearing a roll-on antiperspirant, a spray antiperspirant, and just a general non-promise spray. I'm talking your Lynx Africas. Just a masking agent. Oh, okay. And so immediately, I send you guys a voice note. I consult my lads' chat, who I've known for a long, long time. One of my oldest friends is like, dude,

and all the time I've known you I've never been like pwah I smell mistakes no neither never you said the same Sade said Sade said I would tell you

if you smell yup it's my duty as a wife but everyone has a bit of a pong after their sweating and high intensity workouts I'm not there to F spiders

if I'm there I've got two modes yup it's beat bag beast mode beat bag playstation and beast there, I've got two modes. Yeah. It's Beat Bag. Beast Mode. Beat Bag, PlayStation, and Beast Mode. Yep. Those are my two modes. Okay.

There's no in between. Oh, my God. I don't have that. If I'm going there, I'm going there. But did she make out that this was an ongoing issue or just a once off? I knew. Had there been complaints? Worst case scenario is other people have said,

I was beside that guy in the treadmill. He smells. Yeah. And it's a small gym, isn't it? It's small? It's not small. Okay. It's not huge.

Yeah. Oh. Oh, no. Maybe it's a ventilation issue on their behalf. Okay. Somebody's just messaged you. My husband goes to the same gym as you. He's mentioned guys smelling at the gym,

and your name's not come up once. Okay, but there are smelly people at your gym this is good it's a gym sorry you nearly i nearly swore you nearly swore i know yeah if you come in smelling oh my god i can understand them being like hey but i am like i'm on the five minute sniff now but i will be probably for the rest of my life and you message the rest of my life. And you messaged the, you messaged the chat yesterday, you're like, now what's a good new gym top?

I need to buy some new gym tops. I need to buy a new gym because I'm worried it smells on the fabric. Because do you wear a t-shirt? No, no, no. I sweat too much. Yeah,

you've got to have like, I'm a singlet guy. Active wear, you've got to have active stuff. Yeah. Only at the, oh yeah, no, no, no,

it's that proper material. Yeah, because what's it called? Okay, well that's good. Like, I don't know, it wicks away. Yeah, Okay, well, that's good. Like, I don't know. It wicks away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I don't know what it's called. Active. Just active wear stuff. Shoot me out. You could wear merino. What? Wear some thermals? Well, no, merino doesn't.

It's like, I don't know. It's good for you, isn't it? It doesn't stink. Merino doesn't stink. I don't know. I've never worn merino. I've only ever worn merino as thermals. I know it's good for hiking and thermals. Yeah, it doesn't stink Merino doesn't stink I don't know I've never worn Merino I've only ever worn Merino as thermals

I know it's good for hiking and thermals Yeah it doesn't stink Yeah In being all day Well okay so now you've got an issue But why did she want you

talking about this on the radio and the podcast I don't know because it's my body shame isn't it Yeah it's your shame It's my shame

She probably just felt shame that she had to That she had to say something She drew the short straw and had to say something I wondered also there short straw and had to say something to you. I wondered also there if there was this conversation. Yeah, it's like, okay, who's going to tell him? Who's going to tell him?

One, two, three. Papers, scissors, rock. Papers, scissors, rock. Because it would be a horrible thing to have to do. And then I've got on the back of my mind now, I'm one of those people that smell that don't know they smell. Because you know when you're smelly people and you're like, who's going to say it because they don't know they smell?

Oh, no. Anyway. If you see me in the future and I'm fat, just know that this is the point. This is where you gave up because you don't want to be shamed anymore. No. Okay. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. A couple at the end of 2021.

This is in New Zealand. They're not identified. They're just identified by the quarters X and Y. They bought a house and they found $232,000 in the ceiling. Well, an electrician found it when he came around to do some work at their house. I'm assuming they were maybe renovating. Does it say where in New Zealand? No, so everything that's identifiable

has been left out of this case. I dare for silly little poll, a question now. Maybe we can do this overnight and bring you the results tomorrow on the show. If you found $232,000 in the roof of your house, would you call the police or keep it?

I wouldn't go, well, no, it's not involved in the police. That person, you know, that person. But then you would always be looking over your shoulder

because who put that money there? Sell the house. Who put that? Oh, yeah, great. Sell the house. Take the money, sell the house.

But it's all public record. They'd find you. And it's cash. Like, people are like, oh, it's cash. But you've got to be careful spending cash because too much cash

spending raises some flags. Yeah. I guess you'd just. You've got to be careful spending cash because too much cash spending raises some flags. Yeah. I guess you just do all of your supermarket shopping feeding notes into those machines. Handy. Well, they did call the police after the electrician found it in the ceiling. And this is now a court case because the couple have said, well, hang on a sec. This is money in our house.

It's our money. Oh, so the court case is them wanting their money back because no one's come forward to claim it and the old rule is, and they couldn't confirm that it would be. But the police are saying that this is proceeds, more than likely proceeds of criminal activity. Prove it. Well, that's the thing.

They've got to prove it. That's impossible. The couple say that even if it is tainted, they aren't criminals and that they should have the money. So for now, the High Court has sided with the police and has issued a restraining order over the money. Boo! The couple, though, does get another chance to make their case

when the police take the next step in the proceedings and they will have the chance then to, I guess... Would they be able to look back to see whose name was on? Because the house was rented out. It'll be traceable, wouldn't it? So they did try to track down the last tenants of the house. Nothing suggests that they had any kind of criminal background. The house was owned by a family trust.

There was apparently one member of the family trust that did have a gang connection, but has since passed away. The family said that they more than likely didn't even visit the house. So, like, no one knows how this money got there. And they have tried.

Because the electrician found it, right? Yeah. They didn't know it was there. The electrician comes in and he's like, look what you got here. I'd be like, alright, Spark Sparko, shush your face, take a 50 grand. Don't say anything. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Sparky's always turning down cashies.

Yeah, exactly. But yeah, I don't know. So it's still in the courts. And this couple's like, oh, come on. Someone messaged in, if I find $500,000, I'd definitely tell the police about the $232,000 I just found. Now that's good maths. And make it a really uneven number, like $232,000.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a bag, for some reason, like in a bag way too big for $232,000. I don't know why. So it was in a few bags in the ceiling and they had dust on them. So there were five sealed plastic bags, $50 notes mostly. Couldn't they tell what year the notes were made? Is there any indication as to how long it could be sitting up there? They talked to the Reserve Bank.

They established that the notes were issued between May 2016 and October 2018. Okay, way more recent than I'd figured. I think we're talking early 2000s. So there were 63 different issue codes on them. That meant that the cash was collected from a wide range of sources, but in a relatively short space of time. And the way that it had been bundled up suggested drug activity. I always roll all my 20s up.

You always roll all your 20s up. I always roll my 20s up into a handful of 20s. That is also $5,000. So, yeah, so that's why the police are saying tainted drug money, it'll be New Zealand's money soon, unless this couple kind of can, yeah, get the money back. This is the thing, being honest doesn't pay, does it? Nah.

It doesn't pay anything. It doesn't pay $232,000. It pays $232,000 less than being a cheeky raccoon. I tell you what, though, you'd have to spend a large amount of that money It pays $232,000 less than being a cheeky raccoon. I tell you what, though. You'd have to spend a large amount of that money getting a good security system and some bars on the window and a security door because someone's coming back for that money. Sell out. Great work, guys.

10 out of 10 if I say so myself. I'll do a 9.6. Is that enough for you to review this podcast with a high rating and then tell all your friends? You sound very insincere.