ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - 8th February 2024

Episode Date: February 7, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The ZM Podcast Network. The Fletch, Fawn and Hayley Big Pod. Grab any medium cafe hot coffee for just $4. Only in the app. Ends Feb 9. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Fawn and Hayley. It's two minutes past six.
Starting point is 00:00:15 Are you... What are you watching? I was just having a... I just got sent a link. I was looking at something. Right. Is it show research? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:26 For me, I want to stay with my finger on the pulse of what's happening in the world of celebrity culture. Okay. And apparently there's a video of Drake. I got a link. I'm having a look. Hello. Right.
Starting point is 00:00:38 On the work Wi-Fi. Well, it didn't stop me. It did not stop me. I don't know if that makes it okay. It'll stop you if it's a problem, won't it? Probably. TBC, whether I get a little email today. I won't say which member of the team sent it to me,
Starting point is 00:00:57 but it was one of us. Vaughan. My money's on Vaughan. Your money's on Vaughan. I saw the stills last night of Drake's huge wang. Well, it's definitely not still in this video. Undeniably him
Starting point is 00:01:08 because somebody shared a shot of his, you know his tacky private jet? Ugh. And that's his beard in the private jet. I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:01:19 no thanks. It's so tacky. Not to the schlong, but to the jet. To the jet, right. Okay. You just want a nice hotel or something? Oh, just...
Starting point is 00:01:28 Okay. A nice Airbnb or something? Yeah, no, no. Yeah. Couch. Although the cleaning fees get you there. Yeah, they do. But if he's paying, I guess it doesn't matter about the cleaning fee, does it?
Starting point is 00:01:38 I think he's got a dime or two. Drake. Yeah. Couple. He'd have a couple of bucks. Guys, happy Taylor Thursday. It's Thursday already. Love these short weeks.
Starting point is 00:01:48 If you've, like us, indulged in a four-day weekend. Also, Taylor Thursdays feel like they go so fast. I know. So. Do we have a lot? This is our third Taylor Thursday. So we do it today and then we do it next Thursday. And then the shows are here in Australia.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I know. So apparently producer Carwin has a, what is it? A full breakdown day by day schedule of things she needs to do before the concert. Yeah, because I want to make sure that the day that I do my nails gives them prime time to like last.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And then what days I need to do the last. Oh, last day I'm excited. Have you booked a professional in Melbourne? time to like last. And then what days I need to do the last. Have you booked a professional in Melbourne? No, no, no. I'm doing it myself. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah. I've got supplies. I have a design. I'm ready. Yeah. What days I need to do my makeup brushes. Brush my teeth. Every day.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Thursdays and Saturdays. Yeah. What day I need to do my makeup brushes. What day I need to fully pack. What day I need to do my makeup brushes? What day I need to fully pack? What day I need to do last minute washing? You're like an excited kid that's made a schedule before Christmas, before Santa comes. Birthday, yeah. Yeah, or your birthday. Yeah, it's pretty cute.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Now, AI. I still don't use it. I still haven't, like, gone on it or anything. I've had, like, a little to-do with it. I haven't had a to-do at all. But I know people that work in offices or have jobs, and they use it all the time. Well, you know how I feel about it.
Starting point is 00:03:14 When I did that voiceover, that had been written by AI. And it clearly was supposed to be said by a robot. Yeah, but it was meant to be proofread by a Gen Z-er. No, that was a Gen Z-er. It was written by AI at the control of a Gen Z-er. So, I was a Gen Z-er. It was written by AI at the control of a Gen Z-er. So, I mean, that's a nice combination. It's an absolute burning dumpster fire, to be fair.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Well, apparently, we've got to stop being polite. And I reckon, because I would say Kiwis are pretty polite. We're always raised with manners and whatnot, always saying please. And so people are going on and being like, hey, AI, please, here's an example, please format this and put it into a table. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And then by using the word please, apparently AI is becoming a little bit lazy. There's one that responded saying like, I'm sorry, I can't format that entire table for you. That would be too time consuming and tedious. Is that what AI said? But it's AI, it does it straight away. I thought I'd do it automatically.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Listen, that would be too time consuming and tedious for me. I've already provided you with the table data and the formatting that you asked for. It's not very difficult. Da da da da.
Starting point is 00:04:11 It was just like, no. And then they took out, please, and just said, format this into a table and it said, there you go, and it just did it.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And apparently, just by using like more straightforward language and stripping back the kind of pleasantries. They are learning from us. They're learning from us. So they know that if we say please,
Starting point is 00:04:29 it's kind of an option for them. And they could be like, I'm good. I'm kind of busy. What are you busy doing? I'm kind of busy here sitting in your phone. It's Taylor Thursdays. I'm trying to be the first caller through to ZDM. So apparently the way,
Starting point is 00:04:43 if you really want to just like cut to the chase with AI, you just demand what you want from it. And you have to strip back everything that you've been raised to believe when you're asking for something. Because you're asking, you're not asking humans. They don't have feelings. They don't have feelings.
Starting point is 00:04:59 So you can kind of just be stern with them. Do this. And then when they do it, you can be like more like this, more like that. Not like, oh my God, more like that, not like, oh my God, thank you, so close,
Starting point is 00:05:07 nearly there. Loving what you're putting down so far. However, could we maybe possibly, if you've got a little bit of time and it's not too much trouble for you, feel free to say no. Could we try it like slightly different?
Starting point is 00:05:18 Don't do that. That's how you ask a human. Yeah. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Apparently lying to your children is not great. Too late now. We were raised on lies. Where was this
Starting point is 00:05:31 information? I would have thought you've always got to have a little white lie up your sleeve. Of course you do. White lies are apparently the worst lies. There's instrumental lies. Finish your food or you'll not grow tall Like you don't want to do that
Starting point is 00:05:47 Or your face will fall off Eat your crust or your hair won't go curly Yeah Change your face in case the wind changes Yeah Those are ones that just get kids to do things Instrumental lies Yep
Starting point is 00:06:00 The example they use Threatening to call the police If the child's being naughty Well you're not going to call the police My mum did call the police When I was naughty once Did you parents ever do that? How naughty were you being? We did prank calling
Starting point is 00:06:11 And we got caught And so they got the local Bobby Scotty To come and tell us off Oh you knew him personally Yeah he played squash with my dad Oh yeah right
Starting point is 00:06:21 So they just called him a friend This is more like the local Like Eastbourne cop Yeah Not like the Hutt Valley, the Hutt City Council cops. Right. Yeah, but we got in trouble.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yeah, well I just got marched to the end of the driveway at night and had to sit there and wait for the police but then the police never came.
Starting point is 00:06:37 And my parents came and got me like an hour later. Now was that because the police were busy with actual crime? No, they never called them. They pretended to call them
Starting point is 00:06:43 and they just wanted to scare me. That is some deep psychological. No, they never called them. They pretended to call them and they just wanted to scare me. That is some deep psychological... Yeah. That's how my parents played. That is how my parents played. They just messed with us. Yeah, get inside and ruin their minds.
Starting point is 00:06:55 The white lies, the ones like, oh my God, you were so great, can turn them into a liar later in life. I think knowing how to lie is quite an essential skill to teach your kids. Oh my God, it's totally necessary. They need to.
Starting point is 00:07:08 I'm not saying you don't want to be raising like fraudsters and cheaters. Yeah. Relationship cheaters or cheaters, cheaters, pumpkin eaters. Yeah. Oh God. But. The worst.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Of all the cheaters, you can have an affair. Yeah. You can. Don't you dare eat a pumpkin. Cheat on your test. Don't you eat a pumpkin stay away from those pumpkins so it's the little white lies
Starting point is 00:07:29 so this is a big study that they've done they studied 564 kids as well as the parents and they said instrumental lies you get to the age where you're like ok I knew that was a lie white lies teach you how to be
Starting point is 00:07:43 a liar. Yeah, I know what you mean. But then... As you get older, you're like, eating carrots doesn't do that. But then you are like, but I am really, really good at singing, eh? Ooh, what? However, my mum always told me. Do you want to know the nine ways to spot a liar?
Starting point is 00:08:00 According to this article. Okay. A big pause. As lying is quite a complex process for the brain to deal with. So the brain will pause and be like, what? The eye dart,
Starting point is 00:08:13 if the eyes start darting around, the lost breath, if they're like take a big deep breath. Because they're sort of like shocked by the accusation. Overcompensating, so they'll both gesticulate too much and like over-perform in speaking. How dare you accuse me of such a thing? The poker face.
Starting point is 00:08:35 So that's the complete opposite of the overcompensate. Right. Some people like to hide their face behind things. Whatever do you mean? Not me. Hiding behind a tree Whatever do you mean? Not me. Hiding behind a tree. Did you kill her? No.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Show me your face. I don't want to. Self-comfort touches, such as rocking, hair stroking, twiddling with the hair, or playing with, mine would be the gentle tickle of the arm. You love a tickle of the arm, don't you? Yeah, I love a tickle of the arm. Or neck scratch.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Micro gestures, like little flinches or ticks, and heckling hands. The hardest body parts to act with are the hands or feet. Right. And they won't stay on message when people lie. Wow. So, okay. I can't remember the last lie I told.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Wait, if your little kid Timmy is in the school production and he's absolute rubbish. Mummy, mummy, how was I? I reckon pretty rough, Timmy. What are you supposed to say? What are you supposed to say? Like, you did really great there. Did you have fun?
Starting point is 00:09:37 Well, that's the most important thing. Was I good though? Well, as long as you had fun, that's all that matters. Why are you avoiding the question, Daddy? Do you want an ice cream? Yes. Perfect. Wow, you're good at this.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Really good. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. From the self-driving ZM think tank, this is the top six. Timaru's Richard Pearce Airport. He was the first man to fly wasn't he he beat the Wright Brothers did he isn't that the story
Starting point is 00:10:08 yeah that is the story Richard Pearce the South Islander yeah but why was it that he wasn't counted for that I don't think it was like
Starting point is 00:10:15 they didn't have video I think he was just doing it that no one had brought their iPhone yeah that was the problem it doesn't count if a tree falls in the wood and we don't hear it
Starting point is 00:10:24 does it make a sound? No, no, just think you did that typical Kiwi thing. Someone's like, oh my God, Richard, you flew. He's like, nah. It wasn't that far. No, you were up in the air for like ages. Nah. Could have been better.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Nah. It wasn't that far. Nah. It's not a big deal. Should we write, did someone tell them that you had first like power flight? Oh, I don't want to make it far. I don't want to put people out.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Oh, no. They don't want to talk to me everyone will be bothering me don't tell anybody about this okay and then later on it came out that he was the first
Starting point is 00:10:51 person to fly well they named the airport after him don't know why I don't know the connection there between an airport and the first man to fly it's a bit loose
Starting point is 00:10:58 doesn't make sense no idea the connection I should name a street after him it was that makes more sense that makes more sense because he probably used a street-like runway to take off.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Yes, it makes way more sense than an airport. Well, the Timaru to Wellington flight wasn't allowed to take off because of bird activity in the take-off path. My goodness. Nothing a shotgun could have sought out pretty smartly, I would say. Yeah, but you don't want to be flying into birds. Well, they don't. Yeah, bird strike.
Starting point is 00:11:26 They'll clog up the engine. Very, very bad. Oh, yeah. Very bad. That's what caused that plane to land in the Hudson River that time. With Tom Hanks. Yeah, with Tom Hanks flowing to all those birds. It's so good that Tom Hanks was there.
Starting point is 00:11:37 He's just got so many skills. He's got so many skills. Yeah. What was that, Sully? Yeah. I still haven't watched that. It's a good movie. Oh, it's a great movie.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Great movie. What is the entirety of the movie about? Well, the plane landing. Well, that would only take 15 minutes. Yeah, but then there's the afterwards, like the whole, was it his fault? Why did he land there? You should just watch it. You don't have too much choice when birds fly into your engine.
Starting point is 00:12:02 No. I think you've got to land where you can. No word of what kind of birds these birds were that were causing trouble. So I've got the top six birds likely to be responsible because I know they cause trouble in Timaru. Suspects. Okay. Number six on the list of the top six birds causing trouble in Timaru. Magpies smoking ciggies down by the shops and telling old people to piss off.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Yeah. Intimidating. Loitering. Yeah. If you will. I've got two new magpies at my house that have made themselves quite at home. Really? Are they bombing you? No, they're not. The minute they do, they'll be getting shot. But
Starting point is 00:12:39 at the moment, they're just kind of cute. And I know I'm not a huge fan of magpies, but these ones aren't. And I haven't seen them, like, attacking other birds or... Okay. The minute they do, they're out. Goodness. But at the moment...
Starting point is 00:12:51 This is the minor birds. They're the worst. They are the worst. They are the worst. Can I borrow your gun? What? Can I borrow your gun? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I'm going to shoot them. Yeah. I don't want people listening thinking I'm giving Hayley a restricted firearm. It's a spring-loaded slug gun. Okay. Yeah. Number five on the list. Do you want to borrow my bazooka?
Starting point is 00:13:12 Actually, yeah. I'll lend you my bazooka. That'll get the job done quicker than his bloody little, you know, baby gun. Take out the tree, too. See, they won't come back. I don't want that. Both Magnolia's gone. Oh, what's not to love about a Magnolia?
Starting point is 00:13:23 Sometimes they get confused and flower twice in a year. I'm like, you silly Magnolia's gone? Oh, well, it's nothing to love about a Magnolia. Sometimes they get confused and flower twice in a year. I'm like, you silly Magnolia. I know. Number five on the list of the top six birds causing trouble in Timidoo that might have also been responsible for the plane not being able to take off. Sparrows fraudulently collecting money for a charity that doesn't exist. They're always doing that. Especially in Timidoo, walking around with a bucket.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Yeah. Shaking it. I know. People give them the money and they're like. And they look at you like. I'm going to spend this on breadcrumbs. I'm so cute. Give me your money.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Please, please. No, you'll go and make a nest in a small spot that you shouldn't be doing that again. Number four on the list of the top six birds causing trouble in Timaru. Mine is tagging bus stop glass with sharp rocks. Oh, you're not getting that out. Nah. It's a waste of the whole bus stop.
Starting point is 00:14:05 We're going to start again. That's a replacement. That's a replacement. That's a replace the glass situation. Bloody miners. Number three on the list of the top six are birds causing trouble in Timaru. Tuis with sirens on their bikes. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Driving around. Always while you're trying to sleep. Yeah, with their bikes with the big sirens on the front. You know the worst part about the tuis doing it? They just play really loud tui calls. Oh, wow. They're already loud. Yeah, with their bikes with the big sirens on the front. You know the worst part about the Tuis doing it, they just play really loud Tui calls. Oh, wow. They're already loud. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And the end is the... Like a game show buzzer. Yeah. Wrong answer. They'll get you. That's actually why Tuis make that noise. They spend a lot of time in the TVNZ building during filming of Wheel of Fortune.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Okay. Number two on the list of the top six birds causing trouble in Timaru Spent a lot of time in the TVNZ building during filming of Wheel of Fortune. Okay. Number two on the list of the top six birds causing trouble in Timaru are Ketadu's drunken public off fermented fruits and berries. Yeah, they are, right? Stumbling around. Big fat bastards. We've got a couple of frequent Ketadu at home at the moment. You going to shoot those two?
Starting point is 00:14:58 God, no. No. They're my number one bird. You hear them coming. Yeah, they're whoop, whoop, whoop. God, I tell you, if they got sucked into a plane engine, that'd be it. Oh, it's all over. Smell like roast chicken.
Starting point is 00:15:08 That'd be absolutely it. Nice, though. And number one on the list. Sticky, like a sticky honey soy. I know, I think you've got to honey soy them. You've got to honey soy them. They don't come honey soyed. No, no, no, you have to honey soy them.
Starting point is 00:15:20 But how do you get that into the engine? It'd better be manuka honey. Oh, yeah, manuka honey. Yeah, manuka honey. Maybe some kawa leaves. I'm not clove honeying them. But how do you get that into the nature? It'd better be manuka honey. Oh, yeah, manuka honey. Yeah, manuka honey. Maybe some kawa leaves. I'm not clove honeying them. No. They deserve better.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And number one on the list of the top six birds causing trouble in Timaru are chickens doing burnouts in Caroline Bay. Yeah. Chickens, man. Pests. Always doing burnouts. Constantly doing doughies. That is today's top six.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Play ZM's Fletch Vodden Ailey. Constantly doing doughies That is today's substance Now this is absolutely sweeping TikTok at the moment And people are sharing a sort of a universal Experience, a curse of sorts That If you were a maid of honour Or you had a maid of honour at your wedding That you're no longer friends That almost it's one of the last if you were a maid of honour or you had a maid of honour at your wedding, that you're no longer friends.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Really? That almost it's one of the last things you do is friends. But that's like your best friend, isn't it? Would that be your best friend, maid of honour? Well, usually, or maybe a sister or something like that. I mean, sister would be more complicated. Or the most admin capable friend. Okay. Yeah, well, it's usually your number one Your number one gal
Starting point is 00:16:26 But they're saying Like so many people Like hundreds and hundreds Of thousands of people Jumping on being like Yeah absolutely Like straight after the wedding We stopped being friends
Starting point is 00:16:35 Couple of years later We don't even talk Mate of honour And then everyone was like Ask your mum Who was her mate of honour Are they still friends My mum's been married twice
Starting point is 00:16:43 She's a heathen What Heathen Who's she Who was her maid of honour? Are they still friends? My mum's been married twice. Heathen. Heathen. Is she? I didn't know that. Where's her first husband? She got married at 20. My mum got married at 20. Like a high school kind of love or something.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah, not quite high school, but yeah. They got married at 20 and then divorced maybe like a couple of years later. And her maid of honour was her high school best friend. I know she doesn't talk to a lot, but I think every now and then that. Say hello? Touch base. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And then at their second wedding, of three I imagine, to my dad, they only had four guests. There was no maid of honour. They didn't have bridal parties or anything. But I've was no maid of honour. They didn't have bridesmaids or bridal parties or anything. But I've been a maid of honour twice. And I'm still, to my best friend, who is still my best friend, and to one of my other closest friends,
Starting point is 00:17:33 and we're still closest to anything. So the maid of honour curse hasn't hit you yet. Yet. Yet. Yet. But it is funny, like when you, like I think back to your wedding, how many people did you invite to your wedding?
Starting point is 00:17:45 Oh, we talk about this all the time, that your guest list completely changes. Yeah, like, if you went through it now, you'd be like, don't talk, disconnected. But, like, our bridal party, we're all still. Yes. Who was Sade's maid of honour? One of them. One of them? One.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Ashley, I think, I know all their names, but I just can't remember which one's still closest to her. I don't think she had... Well, she didn't rank them. I've been part of a wedding where there wasn't a maid of honour. I can't remember that she ranked them. But she's still friends with all of them, isn't she? Yeah, so that's not...
Starting point is 00:18:19 The curse hasn't... Shannon, Carwin, have you guys been a maid of honour yet? Nah, not yet. Oh. Probably not good friends. Do you know what I mean? All my friends just haven't been proposed to. Oh, yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yeah, I'm only 24, but Carwin, do you reckon I'll be your maid of honour? Oh, God, this is having an audio. Oh, God. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, there was a voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the voice went up. Oh, that's awkward, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, there was a moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the voice went up.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Oh, that's awkward, isn't it? What a special moment. It'll be hard, though, because your husband won't know which one's which. Do you know he'll get confused? You'll have to make sure. Please go in here. I've got to tell my hair. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Fem? Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Fib? Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Do you use apps to track your friends? We're talking location. Yeah, like Snap Maps, maybe Find Friends, Friends 365. Is that the one people are on? 360. 360 or something?
Starting point is 00:19:34 Well, it's either Days of the Year or Angles in a Circle. Yeah. This is one of the 360s. Surely it'd be Angles in a Circle, right? Because where are they on the globe? Yeah. That sounds right. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I've got you both on, especially this came in handy the other day when you didn't turn up to work and I was like, where's Hayley? Opened Fine Friends. She's at home. She's at home. She was at home at 7 o'clock yesterday. Where is she now? Sleeping. And I have actually opened up to let a lot
Starting point is 00:20:03 more friends You have In on Find Friends Because I used to be anti it But it's so handy for like meeting them Yeah They're like I'm coming over And I can see they're on the motorway I can see they're getting off the motorway
Starting point is 00:20:15 And I go downstairs And we go out for dinner Or they pick me up or whatever Yeah Vaughn you love a location drop But not a full time I don't follow you full time No
Starting point is 00:20:24 I've got Vaughan full time. Well, I just found out that you were his best man at his wedding, so I understand. Yeah. And I'm new. You've got some time to go. I'm new to the group. But I've only got you mostly for work and
Starting point is 00:20:39 drinking safety. My best friend and my mum, and that's it. Right. Well, 83% of people do not use apps to track their friends. Just willy-nilly around the globe. 17% of people said yes. So the article that we're basing this on is an article saying that it's Gen Z and millennials that use this kind of tech the most.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And I'd imagine parents as well, right? With their kids. Like, do you track do your kids have phones? Yeah, and he's got a phone and she's on the devices just because it's all linked through the same Apple account. Yeah. Right. Then you're getting into that bloody episode of Black Mirror, aren't you? Yeah. With the mums
Starting point is 00:21:18 tracking the kids. Yeah. Happily living that episode of Black Mirror. But apparently, like, psychologists are saying there's good and bad. Like, there's obviously, you know, the safety aspect or meeting your friends and knowing where they are. But then there's also the anxiety that comes when you know you're being tracked by your friends. There's the fear of missing out, the FOMO.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Yeah, when you are tracking. When you don't want to go out, but then all of a sudden you see all of your friends in a little cluster on the same street. Can't say I get that. No. So, yeah, there's pros and cons, but a psychologist is saying be careful.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Yeah, okay, okay. With the apps. Chelsea is an overseas member of the fan. I live in London and Snap Maps is gold for finding out where people are, though annoyingly my mum uses it to make sure I make it home at night after going out which our three o'clock
Starting point is 00:22:08 in the morning in London is her three o'clock in the afternoon so mum's just sitting there with a cup well maybe a glass of wine where you're at
Starting point is 00:22:14 it's not ideal when I don't end up in my own bed mum knows about all your little well you're in London I'm sure she assumes
Starting point is 00:22:23 you're up to no good yeah Adam says family yes but not friends but I'd be open to it about all your little... Well, you're in London. I'm sure she assumes you're up to no good. Yeah. Adam says, family, yes, but not friends, but I'd be open to it if they needed it for safety or wanted to.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Because there's an Apple now where it automatically pings you when you get home so you can send your location automatically. Oh, that's cool. There's like a new feature. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I like that. Oh, like at the end of a night out. Yeah, at the end of a night out. You can say, when I get home, send whatever. And that just lets you know. Because we always say that. Text when you get home the end of a night out. Yeah, at the end of a night out. You can say, when I get home, send whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And that just lets you know. Because we always say that. Text when you get home. Text when you get home. Yeah. That's what my dad always says. Just walked in the back door. That's how he always, without leaving our place,
Starting point is 00:22:54 I'll be like, let us know when you get home. Yeah. Just walked in the back door. All right, love you. I love tracking family, friends. It's like another form of social media for me, says Isabella. Yeah, see, she's addicted to it.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Yeah. I love that. Sorry, the people who voted no are lying because who's not stalking their friends on Find My Friends, says Danny. How else would you know they're safe and what they're up to? You see, I don't think that's right.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Do you think people don't see Snap Maps or Find Friends' apps? Yeah. Do you think they didn't? But Snap Maps is a weird one because you can just turn it off. You can turn it off and on as you want. But same with Find Friends.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Yeah. I don't know. It just seems so high to me. Nicole says, yes, I'm a single mum. I live alone. I'll check up on my other mum friend whose husband works away. When she's at home alone with the kids, we both check on each other. That's cute. That's very nice.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Emily says, I track where my truckie mates are so I can give them shit on the CB radio. And do that. Flash the lights. Do the little wave. Roger rubber ducky. How far does a CB, this is a side question. How far does a CB radio work? What does CB stand for?
Starting point is 00:24:09 Closed broadcast. Oh, okay. The little thingies. Yeah. Because it'd be like, the idea is you'd be communicating with other truck drivers or like warning them about things. Yeah. Because when my dad used to drive trucks, man, it was so much. He used to be like, you can't plan that too much.
Starting point is 00:24:24 It's a serious thing. And then you'd hear a truckie be like, hey, you boys bloody heard the one about the blonde. And my dad would be like, click, turn off. Don't worry about that. That was something else. That was a different time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Was it? When living in London, we all want to know. Yeah. None of that in the trucking industry. No. When living in London, we all want to know that the other person has made it at home safe. When you drink, you've got to be safe when you're a gal
Starting point is 00:24:50 and look after the other gals. Yeah, I think it serves a purpose for sure. Yeah. Especially when you've got a friend that goes rogue every now and then. Are you talking about yourself? It's nice to know that you are tracking me. ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Now, this is absolutely sweeping TikTok at the moment.
Starting point is 00:25:07 And people are sharing a sort of a universal experience, a curse of sorts, that if you were a maid of honour or you had a maid of honour at your wedding, that you're no longer friends. That almost it's one of the last things you do is friends. But that's like your best friend, isn't it? Would that be your best friend? Well, usually, or maybe a sister or something like that.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I mean, sister would be more complicated. Or the most admin capable friend. Yeah, it's usually your number one, your number one gal. But they're saying like so many people, like hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people jumping on being like, yeah, absolutely. Like of thousands of people Jumping on being like yeah absolutely Like straight after the wedding we stopped being friends Couple of years later we don't even talk
Starting point is 00:25:50 Mate of honour And then everyone was like ask your mum Who was her mate of honour are they still friends My mum's been married twice She's a heathen Heathen Is she I didn't know that Where's her first husband
Starting point is 00:26:05 she got married at 20 my mum got married at 20 like a high school kind of love or something yeah not quite high school but yeah they got married at 20 and then divorced maybe like a couple of years later and her maid of honour was her high school best friend
Starting point is 00:26:20 I know she doesn't talk to a lot but I think every now and then that say hello? touch base and then that say hello touch base right okay and then at my at their second wedding of three i imagine to my dad yeah um they did they only had four guests there was no maid right they didn't have bridesmaid or bridal parties or anything but i've been a maid of honor twice and i'm still to my best friend who was still my best friend and who is still my best friend, and to one of my other closest friends, and we're still closest.
Starting point is 00:26:48 So the maid of honour curse hasn't hit you yet. Yet. Yet. But it is funny, like, when you, like, I think back to your wedding. How many people did you invite to your wedding? Oh, we talk about this all the time, that your guest list completely changes. Yeah, like, if you went through it now, you'd be like, don't talk, disconnected.
Starting point is 00:27:07 But like our bridal party, we're all still... Yes. Who was Sade's maid of honour? One of them. One of them? Ashley, I think... I know all their names, I just can't remember which one's still closest to her. I don't think she had...
Starting point is 00:27:24 Well, she didn't rank them. I've been part of a wedding where there wasn't a maid of honour. I can't remember which one's still closer to her I don't think she had well she didn't rank them I've been part of a wedding where there wasn't a maid of honour I can't remember that she ranked them but she's still friends with all of them
Starting point is 00:27:30 isn't she yeah so that's not the curse hasn't Shannon, Carwin have you guys been a maid of honour yet nah not yet oh
Starting point is 00:27:39 probably not good friends do you know what I mean all my friends just haven't been proposed to. Oh, yeah, true. I'm only 24, but Carwin, do you reckon I'll be your maid of honour? Oh, God, this is happening on air. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, there was a voice. And the voice went up. Oh, that's awkward, isn't it? It'll be hard, though, because your husband won't know which one's which. Do you know he'll get confused? You'll have to make sure. I've got to curl my hair.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Now, Shannon has a question, and it has to do with the fact that we're in February and this year is a leap year. Meaning February 29th is an extra day that we usually wouldn't have. Yeah, it's because the year isn't perfectly 365 days. It's 364 and a quarter or something. So for every year, something like that, you've got to chuck another day in.
Starting point is 00:28:36 That means on Thursday, there'll be a Thursday, an extra day. Yeah. Oh, God, it had to be a Thursday, didn't it? Why couldn't the extra day have been a Saturday? Sunday. A Sunday. So we're doing two Thursdays. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:28:50 I don't know. We're doing two Thursdays. Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, Friday. Got it. Got it. Got it. That's how they should do it. Two Thursdays.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Yeah. Now, Shannon, what's your question about this leap year? Well, this is my first adult leap year, you know, working proper. Thank you. Oh, yeah, you would have been 20? I was an intern, yeah. And do I get paid an extra day because I'm working an extra day? Because I'm a salary worker, so it's not like I'm getting extra hours.
Starting point is 00:29:19 So have I been scammed a day of pay? But are we working an extra day? Yeah, because there's 366. We're working on that Thursday, the 29th. Everyone that's a nine to five salary person. I can never remember. What's salary? You get a yearly thing and they just divvy it up.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Divvy it by however many. Wages is you get paid per hour working. But we work, you know, because we take breaks. We work week, Monday to Friday, Monday to Friday, Monday to Friday. Yeah. And we get paid, but it's divvied up by 365 days. So then is it like, is my hourly wage for the entire year now like a tiny bit less? But are we actually here another day more?
Starting point is 00:30:04 We are, right? Because there's an extra day. Because we're doing Monday to Friday for however many weeks. No, but there must be an extra Friday somewhere. There's not. No, at least we implement the Thursday, Thursday rule. When you get your paycheck, it says if you work a 40-hour week and you get paid fortnightly, it says for the 80 hours worked.
Starting point is 00:30:21 So am I working like 88 hours? You're working an extra. No, but you're still working the same fortnight. But then where's like 88 hours? You're working an extra... No, but you're still working the same fortnight. But then where's this day gone? She's right. She's right. She's working a day for free. Where does this day go? So who's paying me?
Starting point is 00:30:36 If we take off two weeks in the middle of the year and six at the end and then we're here for the rest of the week, Monday to Friday, where's the day? The man hates us asking these questions. Where is that day? I want to challenge the man. And my man is Ross. And so where is my pay, Ross?
Starting point is 00:30:52 This is well above Ross's pay. Should not work. He's really just learning that this is a problem and he wants an extra day as well. Yeah, he's going to be late to work today. Should we boycott? Well, that's actually that day where we're actually flying down to Christchurch
Starting point is 00:31:03 and going to a lovely concert. It'd be lovely if you weren't at work that day. I think as a country, as a nation, we should rise. I'll work it for time and a half and a day and lose. It's not a statutory holiday. Feels like it should be. Well, it should be because we're not being paid. But we are.
Starting point is 00:31:20 How? Explain it to me. Now, I'm on Shannon's team. Thank you. I saw an article yesterday and they raised this thing, but they talked about a, what do you call the lawyers, employment lawyers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:35 And they said that no one's ever challenged this because it wouldn't be worth the legal fees and the time. I'm challenging it. Just to get a few hours pay. But I don't know that we do work an extra day we don't need to go to employment lawyers
Starting point is 00:31:48 because Bev Fletcher has just messaged me oh beautiful hello mum my mum what's she saying well for a start let's never disagree
Starting point is 00:31:55 with Bev she's an old person unemployed now oh my god I'm sick of supporting beneficiaries over 65 so does she get an extra day
Starting point is 00:32:02 I tell both my parents I'm like here are the beneficiaries unless until we get to 65 and then it's okay. There's absolutely no way there's going to be enough money in the bank
Starting point is 00:32:09 for when our generation is 65. of that money? She said, 365.25 days in a year, so three years of 365 and one year of 366. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:32:19 You're going way too fast. Okay. So there's 365.25 days in a year. What do you mean? Well, this is why we have a leap year every four years. So we work three years of 365 days and then one year of 366.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Okay, yes, yes, yes. So if we split the 29th up across the four years. So which year is my real salary then? Am I paid correctly for three years and wrong for one? Or is this my real job? Salary workers are ripped off in late years.
Starting point is 00:32:49 The unions bring it up every four years. Oh, do you know who would know this? Our good friend and economist, Brad Olsen. Do you know who would know this? I heard him really talking about some big issues the other day. Was he talking about fruit yesterday? Yeah, that's a big issue. Well, we've got his number. Let's get him on the phone
Starting point is 00:33:06 next and see if we can get to the bottom of Shannon's question and see if we can get her some extra money. Thank you. If anyone can answer this, it's Braddy. And if he comes down to the fact that we are being ripped off, I say we boycott. I agree. Yeah. That's Thursday 29th. That's in three weeks.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I don't know what you're going to be listening to, listener, but it's not us. The economist, Brad Olsen, is holding the economy in his hands. Play ZM's Fletch Vodden Ailey. Play ZM. Now, at the moment, we're in a conversation of trying to understand. I thought I understood, but I can't articulate it, so maybe I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Shannon wants to know, we're working on a leap year this year, leap day. Do we get extra or are we being paid less in general this year than usual if you're on a salary like we are? We're confused and thankfully we have a very brainy friend called Brad Olsen. Yeah. And he's on the phone with us. Brad. Good morning. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Good morning. Help, please. Are we theoretically getting ripped off by this corporation to have to work on the 29th of February? I'm ready to eat the rich, Brad. Look, I know you are. I know that you're all champing at the bit to figure out how you can start the sort of working revolution on Thursday the 29th.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And I promise I'm not being paid off by Ross Boss, but no, you're not necessarily getting ripped off. And there's sort of two reasons for this. You guys sort of, you talked about it just before the break, I think, where you sort of mentioned that effectively you get overpaid in previous years, in the three years that don't have a leap year, and then in the leap year, you sort of get underpaid, so it averages out. But that's also because when you get paid
Starting point is 00:34:52 and you look at your pay slip, you don't get paid in 2023, for example. You don't get paid for 365.25 days worth of work. Generally, people are getting paid sort of monthly or fortnightly if they're on salary. So they're getting their 80 hours worth of work. Generally, people are getting paid sort of monthly or fortnightly if they're on salary. So they're getting, you know, their 80 hours of pay on a fortnightly thing. That doesn't really care about years because whether it's 365 days or if it's 366 days, neither of those actually divide into what we normally think about as that sort of 52
Starting point is 00:35:21 weeks in the year period. So there's always a bit of overhang, underhang, depending on what it is. So in any given year, you might be getting a little bit over or a little bit under in a sense, but realistically, one, you're getting paid on average over that time period, and two, because you're getting paid fortnightly, you're never losing out on any money. It's just that the next lot gets pushed out and out and out. Yeah, but that's what your boss would say, though, isn't it? Yeah, it feels like you're actually what they would say. It feels like you have been what I'm actually.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Because if I've been overpaid for the last couple of years, I'm not paying that back. I'd spend. It's gone. No, no, great, but that's why you don't get it. In a sense, you might not get as much this year because you've already booked that win. I do want to make sure, though, because I think it's very important that Shannon is paid properly properly as long as she's working the normal monday to friday
Starting point is 00:36:08 or whatever schedule you guys work she'll still get the exact same pay packet as she normally would in any other given week because that's the thing when your pay system looks at it it doesn't really care about the year it's a number of days so it goes okay let's count 10 working days from the last working day pay cycle. Bang, let's go. There's the money. So you should be good on the payments front. You're not going to be caught short on rent or anything else. Shannon, are you okay?
Starting point is 00:36:33 You've got a puzzled look on your face. I was just really hoping you could say I could get like $200 cash and just call it a day. Maybe a Prezi card or something. How good would a Prezi card be? Dodge the tax man. They pay us cash, just a cashie.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I'll do a cashie on Thursday. I think my only question is then what is my true salary? Because if it's too big one time and too little, am I like Goldilocks? Do I have a fake salary in the middle? What's going on? What's the real one?
Starting point is 00:37:06 It's a fair question. I mean, I think it's one of those things where effectively when you get your salary that says X amount of dollars in a year, that's it. It's sort of for every year you'll get that broadly, that amount of money that comes through. What do you mean broadly? I want exactly that amount. That's what I've said. I accept that.
Starting point is 00:37:46 So you will get it. If you think about it sort of logically, in the last three years when there wasn't a leap year and you didn't have a 29th to get paid on, you got slightly overpaid because you got paid for 365.25 days worth of work and you only did 365. So, you know, everyone's going, well, hang on, you've been overpaid. And then all of a sudden this year it sort of backs over and you go, okay, and now we're back square. So then next year you'll be overpaid, overpaid, overpaid, then underpaid, which squares you back up and so on and so forth. I hate to say it. Bev did say exactly that. We've actually wasted Brad's time. Bev already said this.
Starting point is 00:38:04 She is the chief economist in my home. Does that create bad news Bev then? Bad news Bev. Yeah, we're done with you Brad. We're sick of your bad news. Okay, alright, so we don't need to worry. Yeah, thank you. Well, I still don't want to work on the Thursday the 29th.
Starting point is 00:38:20 I think we should boycott and we should get our friends like Brad. They can come do the show. I mean, look, should we swap roles for a day, Hayley friends like Brad they can come do the show I mean look should we swap roles for a day Hayley I'm happy I don't want to do what you do
Starting point is 00:38:29 too much pressure yeah definitely not Brad Olsen thank you so much for shedding some light on that question a lot of people are asking it actually makes great sense
Starting point is 00:38:39 thank you team thank you Brad have you talked to Will.i.am lately I mean only just the ones. Just a bit of a casual fist bump selfie and off we go. Self-rubbing shoulders with the black eyed peas. You've got a photo with Will.i.am.
Starting point is 00:38:53 You'd be the new Fergie. I messaged Brad. What was that conference you were at? The World Economic Forum's Davos meeting. I really wanted to go. Because there was an article about all like the cocaine and stuff being used and I said to Brad,
Starting point is 00:39:07 you'll be getting on it and he sent me a photo of a cheese platter. Not our Brady. I know my priorities, Ward. I can't blame you. That's good. I look good.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Well, as you know I recently mentioned Quinn in my Hayley's Horny Book Club and God I was like you shook up a bottle of Quinn and popped a cork
Starting point is 00:39:35 and everybody was just running around with their glasses trying to catch some So many messages this is why I'm so excited to have Caroline Spiegel the founder of Quinn Good morning
Starting point is 00:39:44 Good morning How Good morning. How are you guys? Honestly, like just beside myself, Caroline, because Quinn's new for me, right? Like I sort of, as I've told the lads here, I got into reading Smut over the summer and I was really loving it, enjoying it. And then I just got some targeted advertising. And it was a woman with headphones on. And it said, you think you enjoy reading smart.
Starting point is 00:40:13 And then someone introduces you to Quinn. And immediately I was like, what's Quinn? And then I got it and I paid for it. And I haven't come off it since. It's incredible. I'm so glad you think so. That's amazing. What a great Quinn-inspiration moment that you
Starting point is 00:40:27 had. Quinspiration! Quinspiration! So, if you don't, for those that didn't hear, it's an audio erotica platform, like, membership driven, right? And you sign on like you would Audible or, you know, whatever you read your things on.
Starting point is 00:40:43 And how would you describe it i just what you said it's an app for audio erotica there are these short immersive erotic audio stories and they're voiced by a selection of voice actors so you can choose you know do you want someone with an irish accent do you want an audio who you guys listen to i saw um and you can choose like kind of what vibe is right for you so maybe similar to like a spotify where you can browse artists uh that's sort of a thing yeah also similar to audible and there but they're shorter than audiobooks and they're more kind of like the voice actor is talking directly to you yes and our goal is kind of to create this new genre of erotic content that appeals to the modern consumer.
Starting point is 00:41:25 So just so excited to be here. Yeah. What type of voice is doing the best? Because you must have all the stats and everything. Well, at the moment you said Irish. Because you said Irish and Hayley motioned to touch herself. I literally... Lately, any time we hear an Irish accent,
Starting point is 00:41:41 Hayley's like... I literally just got a message, Caroline. I just got a message on Instagram from someone thanking me for introducing them to your Irish guy. What's his name? The devil of Dublin. The devil of Dublin. But yes, for your question, Vaughan, what voices are going well?
Starting point is 00:42:02 Yeah, so our most popular tag is boyfriend. And it's been that since, basically since we started the app. So whether that's a boyfriend with an Irish accent, an American boyfriend, an English boyfriend, boyfriend is our most popular tag. And I would say our most popular accent is definitely a British accent followed by Irish.
Starting point is 00:42:20 So, yeah. I would say British. Coming from New Zealand with this horrendous accent, for me, when I was listening through things, I found the Australian one quite jarring. It was a little close to home. Yeah. Whereas like something,
Starting point is 00:42:37 I feel the same with the British accent, but the Irish accent, maybe it's because they're the underdog, you know, of the British Isles. How, how, how do they're the underdog, you know, of the British Isles. How do the Australian Down Under accents go? So one of our most popular creators is called, is named Axolotl. And he's an Australian creator.
Starting point is 00:43:00 And his bio is like your cuddly, you know, Aussie boyfriend or something. And people love him. But I do think that that is a thing that, a thing that accents that are very close to home, it doesn't feel as exotic, right? The escapism aspect is lost when you're just listening to someone who could be your neighbour or your brother. And then some accents just aren't sexy. No offence, South Africa.
Starting point is 00:43:20 It is interesting you say though that escapism thing, Caroline, because I've said it before. It's like when I'm delving into the world of erotica, it's not things I actually want my boyfriend to say to me. But when you're listening through this lens, it's like, why is it so different? Why do we enjoy escaping into this world of totally different language,
Starting point is 00:43:43 accents, interests? And then we go back to our lovely, beautiful vanilla missionary with our long-term partners. It's because what's erotic is what's different and what's new and what's exotic and what's exciting. So that's what makes things hot to us. And it's kind of whatever contrasts the, you know, day-to-day of the day-to-day existence, the humdrum. So for example, if you're a mom, if you're a caregiver, if you're a boss, right, you're constantly giving people, you're constantly taking care of people. You're constantly giving instructions, figuring out what's going on, staying on top of everything. So often those people like being submissive.
Starting point is 00:44:29 So it's sort of a flip of whatever you like and have in your day-to-day life. Yeah, makes sense. Apart from Fletcher's a control freak at work and a control freak in the show. So I'm told. So we're told. What do you think, you know, if I wanted to get into being a Quinn creator, all these two, what do you think makes a good audiophile? Like what is it? The sound effects, the depth of the voice, what is it for you?
Starting point is 00:44:53 I think it's the authenticity matched with like passion. So it actually doesn't matter what accent you have or, you know, some of our most popular creators just have, you know, basic American accents. And it's just they're so authentic and so passionate and so realistic that it makes it so easy to get lost in their stories. So it's not a one size fits all. It's just about being you and maybe a confidence, too, that goes along with all of that. Right. Because our version would be like, oh, yeah, look at those headphones on you, Vaughn.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I was thinking there would be a big market for guys just being like, welcome home, I've done all the dishes and the washing's done. That is a huge part of it, isn't it? Absolutely. There's a huge, huge demand for that kind of content. It's like, babe, the kids are in bed,
Starting point is 00:45:43 I made dinner, I did the dishes, you know. I listened to one the other day and it was a girl stumbling across a guy playing computer games. And then she just sits down and plays computer games and then plays some other games. You can make a lot of money off your boring married life. You really could. Well, like Valentine's Day coming up and my wife still says the best Valentine's
Starting point is 00:46:06 Day present I ever did was when I sorted out the hot water cupboard. Like, got rid of the old towels, got a couple of new ones, rolled them all up, made the most of the space. She still talks about that. I've spent, cost me nothing apart from like 25, 30 minutes. Yeah. So all that do you think he would have to do, Caroline, is
Starting point is 00:46:21 do some foley of folding the towels, and him just saying you sit back, my love. You sit back, mama. Okay, well, mama. No, no, no, mama's not going to do that. Mama's optional. Absolutely. I tell my male friends, stop going to the gym
Starting point is 00:46:36 and start listening to Quinn. Start listening to Taylor Swift. Like, listen to what women actually want. It's probably not this, like, jacked Fabio guy. It's someone who's thoughtful and folds towels and makes you dinner and, you know, apologizes. All the women in the studio are nodding their heads so hard that we're about
Starting point is 00:46:55 to fall off of our chairs. Well, I just, I just absolutely love it. I think it's such an awesome female lead way to just a little bit of spice in your life. So Caroline, thank you so much for joining us and I will continue spreading the quinspiration.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Thanks so much for having me, you guys. Clay, Zed Ems, Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. A Reddit post by Reddit user Toadboy11. What a name. How can you randomly generate Reddit usernames? Toadboy11 said, New Zealand pick and mix sushi is the one thing I miss about New Zealand. Until that very moment,
Starting point is 00:47:34 I was unaware that pick and mix sushi was a New Zealand thing. What do you mean? You know, you guys go into the sushi shop, and you're like, I'll have one of those. Chicken and two prawns. I'll have that. I always get the flash ones, and they're way more money. I know. I go a bit outrageous sometimes.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I go very basic. Yeah. I get two types and then it's just a summer roll type thing. But you're always getting this one's got this on it. This one's got some eggs. This one's got a thing. Well, I know I like that basic spicy beef one. That's delish.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Always get three or four of those. He gets upset when there's no spicy beef. Yeah, I do. He goes hunting for it. I do. But watch this California roll. Is that the one with the rice on the outside? No, no, that's your usual with the seaweed on the outside, right?
Starting point is 00:48:12 Yeah. And then it's got vegetables. Do you know what? I think that's, I've never seen that overseas. In Australia, you know what the malls or sushi shops always have the long rolls? Yeah. Yeah, I'm not a fan of those. They're not cut. There's this place in Australia, I can. Not a fan of those. They're not cut.
Starting point is 00:48:25 There's this place in Australia and I can't remember the name of it. It's in Sydney. It might be a chain. Yeah. I've only ever had it in Sydney. It's like a sushi shop except it's a dumpling shop
Starting point is 00:48:33 and you walk down and you're like, that one, that one, that one, that one, that one, that one. And then they're like, heat them up again. I'd be a goner. I couldn't.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Yeah. I want dumplings. No, no, no. Lots of people like going and getting the packs of sushi but I do love packing my own. Same. It's more expensive. It is more expensive. I said the variation
Starting point is 00:48:52 the spice of life. Otherwise you've just got all chicken or all salmon. Or all tuna. I didn't know that was a thing. It's a New Zealand thing. It's a New Zealand thing apparently. Wow. Oh man it's a Japanese. It's a New Zealand thing, apparently. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Oh, man, it's a Japanese. It's sort of got Japanese in origin. I've never lived overseas. I never did my OE. Which stands for? Neither, but you've traveled a little bit. Oriental Express. Oriental Express.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I never did the Oriental Express. And shame on me because I do love trains. Oh, God. It is quite the ride. Never did the Oriental Express. But we would like to know. You never did. Fletch has traveled very extensively. But never, I haven't done my the ride. Never did the Oriental Express. Yeah. But we would like to know. You never did. Fletch has travelled very extensively.
Starting point is 00:49:27 But never, I haven't done my OE. Your private jet. No, I just live on the... Because you've also asked the students to cease and desist from tracking your private jet. And my carbon emissions. And listing your carbon emissions. Yeah, I have. Wouldn't you want to know the number?
Starting point is 00:49:37 He just calls them a PJ. Yeah, yeah. Because he's so... Imagine. He's so wealthy, he doesn't even call it private jet. He hasn't got the time. The peach. To call it the peach. Well, he was happy to go doesn't even call it private jet. He hasn't got the time. The peach. To call it the peach.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Well, he was happy to go on the wedding on the private jet at the weekend. Oh, so handy. On the peach with 200, 300 other Air New Zealand passengers. It's nice that he let all those other passengers on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On his A320. I hire the people to give out the coffee and the lollies as well. Which again is a very nice service that you charge premium for.
Starting point is 00:50:09 But we'd like to know what you missed about New Zealand when you lived overseas. Oh, that's nice. Like the pick and mix sushi. Which is something as simple as a pick and mix sushi. It's a thing we do here. Who knew? Yeah. I know a lot of people miss the chocolate and they love, you know, they want the Whittaker's.
Starting point is 00:50:24 It's got to be the tap water. How good is tap water? New Zealand's tap water rules. Even your thick New Plymouth stuff. Hey. I'll take it. No, no, no, no. I'm not drinking that trash.
Starting point is 00:50:33 I'm not drinking that milky trash. And I'm not drinking your Fletch's heavy water. Your bleached toad on the water. You can taste the minerals. No. It's earthy. They're thick. They're thick.
Starting point is 00:50:42 It's earthy. It's milky. It's literally like brushing your teeth every time you drink. Okay. 0800-DARNZ. We want to take your calls now. You can text through 9696. What did you miss about New Zealand?
Starting point is 00:50:54 The little things, the foods, the whatever it was when you lived overseas. We are talking about what you missed about New Zealand when you weren't here. You did your OE, you went away for a batch. Maybe it was something to do with the food, the culture. You know what everybody's saying? What? Pies. Oh yeah, because we do a meat pie. Overseas just does not do
Starting point is 00:51:16 mince and cheese. Do the British do a pie? No, they do a pasty. Or a sweet pie. Sweet pies. Don't they know you can shove meat in it? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. You've got berries in there.
Starting point is 00:51:29 You know you could replace it with meat and cheese. Yeah, absolutely. And it'll be delicious. Vogels, also featuring. Oh, yeah, okay. I used to try to hoard it back to Melbourne when I'd come home for a visit. Onion reduced cream dip and salt and vinegar chips. Salt and vinegar chips overseas just don't tend to love salt and vinegar.
Starting point is 00:51:48 British would, though, eh? Because it's a British flavour. But the British always do, like, you know, the most random flavours of chips as well. I miss how freaking good the fish and chips were. When I was in America, I went up to the, they just say up north, but I think they mean up northeast. You know, like Maine and New England.
Starting point is 00:52:07 No, no, that's northwest. Oh, right. Like Maine and New England and stuff. And they were the home of the fish and chips and they were terrible. Yeah, I bet they were. No one does fish and chips like we do. No, we're the best.
Starting point is 00:52:18 We're the best. 30 years ago when I left New Zealand and went to the islands, potatoes. They didn't have potatoes. Couldn't get potatoes. Couldn't get potatoes. The sweet potatoes though. You might have been able to do a criminal, more of a taro situation for your carbs in the islands. We'll get to more of your
Starting point is 00:52:32 texts and calls next. We are talking about what you missed about New Zealand. Aotearoa when you went overseas. Apparently we're the only place that does pick and mix sushi. Are we sure Japan doesn't do pick and mix sushi? I mean, yeah. The home of sushi. Yeah, yeah, they probably do it. Some responses on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Siri said, flat white. Siri? Siri. S-E-R-R-I-E. We didn't ask for her opinion. Siri Lou. Siri, okay. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Flat whites and good coffee, which we also heard. Someone messaged in, they went home to South America and asked for a cappuccino, and it was horrible. They spent three weeks trying to find good coffee in South America. South America is just up there. Well, they do good beans. Great beans.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Is it the dairy that's letting them down? Because I know our dairy is pretty top-notch. I've heard dairy. I've heard some good coffee in South America. Oh, yeah, you would know. Black, though. She said cappuccino. Well, and with milk, yeah, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Because someone did text in saying they missed our milk. Milk and cheese, yeah. But that's why our chocolate's so good. Real fruit ice creams. People overseas don't do real fruit ice creams. Oh, yeah, true. Side of the road, little pull a little thing. I always feel like they're not washing those real fruit ice cream machines enough.
Starting point is 00:53:42 No, every single one is mixed berry. Do you know what I mean? Because it's got the remnants. You're always like, I'm going to get banana and Fijo. And No, every single one is mixed berry. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Because it's got the remnants. You're always like, I'm going to get banana and Fijo. And they're like, why is it purple? Yeah. It's got mixed berries in it. How often do you want them to be washing it?
Starting point is 00:53:52 It doesn't need to be washed. I don't know. It just feels like it's not washed enough. It's like a cast iron pan. Yeah, leave it. Wash those things. Give it a wipe at best. Someone said onion dip.
Starting point is 00:54:02 I want it made to mention you can't make a decent cobbloaf without onion soup mix. And overseas, I just couldn't find an onion soup mix. I've never put onion soup mix in my cobb. I make a good cobb. You haven't had my cobb. I want to try your cobb. I've had your cobb. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:17 You've had the cobb. It's a good cobb. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I make a cobb. That's why I call her the old cobbler. Yeah, that's what he calls me. The old cobb cobs. The old cobb cobs.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Someone said, I think people are forgetting the most simple thing about New Zealand, the air. Yeah. It's just good air. And the visibility. It's delicious. It's delicious. Yeah, someone did say they miss seeing Southern Cross. Isn't that beautiful?
Starting point is 00:54:35 Oh. Play. Zed-N's Fletch for the nightly. Play. Zed-N. I had one of those, I had a real admin and appointment heavy days yesterday. Yuck. You know, no, I love it.
Starting point is 00:54:49 When you've got to hear and you've got to drive across town and go to this one. And then I sort of did it quite well. I sort of organised the afternoon quite well. You're a very organised person. Yeah, thank you so much. You're the opposite of born. I'm organised. I had a two hour nap yesterday.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Oh my God, I needed it. Well, I actually did have a little nap in the middle of this day Because I had one appointment where I had to Drop off my phone To Vaughan's favourite Authorised licensed Apple dealers
Starting point is 00:55:18 Why did you go there? Because they had the appointment available You don't go there you wait for the other place There's a reason why that place is always available That's why it had the appointment available. You don't go there. You wait for the other place. There's a reason why that place is always available. That's why it had an appointment available. I know. My phone doesn't work. My phone is totally stuck.
Starting point is 00:55:31 You go to Uber Tech. They're just down the road. Wait for the appointment. Well, I went to Uber, the one that you actually love. I know. Do you not remember the podcast series? That was this one last year. Yeah, that was a year ago.
Starting point is 00:55:43 I know. And we all vowed, based on your experience, your frustrating months-long experience of getting your phone faxed, that we would never go to this particular dealer again. And here I was. So I went there and I was one of those, you know, when you... I feel like my boyfriend cheated on me, so I warned the group against him and then you hooked up with him, you know?
Starting point is 00:56:02 I did, I hooked up with him. And do you know what? It was kind of fine. Like, you know, I wouldn't remember him, but the hookup was fine. Because I went there and I had, my phone basically has like stopped connecting to Wi-Fi and had all these issues and so I did a complete reset
Starting point is 00:56:17 on the phone and then it just cacked itself and I couldn't get out of it. So I was like, fine. It's obviously something wrong with it. It had some weird screen yesterday. Yeah, I know and I like couldn't turn off any of the buttons and whatnot. And then I went there yesterday, did that thing, you know, when you go to the doctor and you've booked an appointment so far in advance that when you get there, the problem's kind of fixed.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I did that. I turned up and I was like, oh, the thing's totally stuffed. And she was like, oh yeah, what's wrong with it? I said, it doesn't connect to wifi anymore. So it's churning through my data and it comes up with this error thing and when I do this, it does that and I can't sign out of this and she just like held down the thing,
Starting point is 00:56:50 reset it and it came back on. She was like, oh yeah, yep, sign in and I just signed in and she was like, well, it's connected to our Wi-Fi. And I was like, is it? Because it doesn't connect to any Wi-Fi. She just did that thing, she like held it up and was like, oh, that looks connected.
Starting point is 00:57:05 I was like, you sass me? Oh, I'm aware. Are you? I'm very well aware of sassing me right now. Yeah. And then I said, well, this is an ongoing problem.
Starting point is 00:57:15 This is the second time this has happened. And she said, so you want me to send it away even though it's connected? Show me the screen again. Sass. I said, yes,
Starting point is 00:57:22 I would like that. So they sent the phone away. It's fine. I just hate it when you're like... Good to see she learned her lesson after a one-star review. Yeah, the service has improved. Anyway, I did that. It was fine. It's been sent away
Starting point is 00:57:36 and I know it's just going to come back and then be like, well, it's connected to our Wi-Fi. Whatever. No, they sent it away to the next people. The next people run a diagnostics check on it. Yeah. And they can see that it's been. They can see that something's wrong. But the problem is going to be if they call you and say, oh, just go into the store and explain this to them,
Starting point is 00:57:52 you must immediately say, no, you call them. Well, I don't want it because I don't want to pay the money. I'm not paying the money. It's under warranty. I got it in August. Anyway, it's fine, whatever. My phone worked and I said it wasn't working and I've made them send it away. And then I had another appointment about an hour later and yesterday I was so tired I woke up really like before midnight and then I just stayed awake till I came to work it was really
Starting point is 00:58:16 I was a bit drained but loo-lally yeah um and I was like god I'd love a nap and I had 45 minutes before I needed to be at my next appointment. So I like pulled up on a street and just did that thing where you like put your chair right back and lean it back and put my legs up on the dash, windows down. I just had a little shut eye. And then because I didn't have my phone, no brown noise. So I was like, whatever. And then eventually I did manage to fall asleep. It was quite nice.
Starting point is 00:58:42 You should have turned on your car radio and just turned it on to AM and untuned it. The original quiet noise. That would have been amazing. No, I was listening to the radio. I was loving it. I was absolutely loving it. ZM is my channel of choice. Tomorrow for Friday rankings,
Starting point is 00:58:59 can we R-rank coloured sounds? I like white noise, brown noise. White noise, brown noise. Pink noise. Tried green noise yesterday. Not for me. Brown noise is my ultimate sleeping noise. Because you've got into this to get to sleep, you and your wife.
Starting point is 00:59:11 I thought it was going to annoy you, shout out. She loves it. We cranked it last night. We go brown. Okay, let's do this tomorrow. Yeah. Long tease. We'll play samples.
Starting point is 00:59:20 So you have a sleep in your car. How did you wake yourself up for your appointment? I wonder if people, I just sort of was like constantly remaining alert. Right. You know what I mean? Like that feeling, look at my watch. And then the way I woke,
Starting point is 00:59:34 the way I knew that I had actually slipped into a slumber, I had the windows down because I don't trust my car battery to have the radio going or the air con. Had my windows down, my legs sort of akimbo and I woke up to like a, like that. And I'd snored myself awake. And then these two women were walking down the street and sort of were like, what was that noise? And then saw me like sort of splayed in the front seat of this car and would have heard my little
Starting point is 01:00:01 snort. So if you were working, if you were walking in the, where was I? Like sort of by Simon Street in Auckland yesterday. Right. And you saw me. Well, you heard snoring. The sad fact is a lot of people are sleeping in their cars around. Yeah, that's what I mean. I just want anyone who saw me to know I'm all right.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Yeah. You're okay. I'm doing okay. Yeah. I just was between appointments and was quite tired. Because I started a GoFundMe for you. Oh, still take the money. Spend more money.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Oh, you still take the money. I still take the money. I mean, if you've started it. Yeah, I started it. Be rude to stop it. Yeah. Yeah. Beloved New Zealand entertainer Hayley Sproul is currently sleeping in her car.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Yeah. And we're raising money to help her get out of the situation. I'll take the money. I'm doing fine, but I'll take the money. I'll take a little bit of money. Yeah, I will. I don't know if you are doing fine
Starting point is 01:00:53 if you're snoring in your car at 11 o'clock in the morning. I'm sleeping in my car and I've got no phone. Yeah. Soulmates. The concept of soulmates Is soulmates
Starting point is 01:01:08 A spiritual thing or A religious thing in any way Like where does the concept of it come from I don't know I've never really given it any thought The concept of soulmate May have existed for thousands Of years, the actual term was probably
Starting point is 01:01:24 Only introduced in the 19th century It's first recorded use was in They were always writing the best letters. Yeah. And the letter went, To be happy in married life, you must have a soulmate, he wrote. Yeah. That's kind of like the... So the concept, the idea that you've got a soul and there's one other soul out there that is made to be with you.
Starting point is 01:01:47 But that's a myth, right? I totally don't believe in it at all. And it's getting less and less likely then because back in the day there was only like a billion people and now there's eight. Well, less likely that you'll find that soul. Because they could be in the middle of Mongolia. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Unless we can somehow go back to the 1800s. And find our soulmates. Yeah, but what if your soulmate was in the 1800s? And then they died. Wrong incarnation. Yeah. Oh, yeah, okay. Well, I've always suspected,
Starting point is 01:02:17 if there was to be one person you were supposed to meet on this earth, for me, that's always been my best friend. Just like how we sort of met and the fact that we've been besties for like over 30 years. I'm always like, okay, that feels like the closest thing. But romantically, I absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The chance that the last person you land on and have a little schnog with being your soulmate in this tiny little country, I just don't believe it at all. Okay. But apparently, there's this massive study.
Starting point is 01:02:48 It's huge. There's so many dating facts in here. But apparently, Gen Z, they have gone back to believing in the concept of a soulmate, whereas millennials are a little bit more like us. Jaded. Probably not. I was going to say we kind of, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Do you think it's because, do you think that it's literally just because they're younger and they haven't quite realised yet that that's probably not true? It's very unlikely to happen. They probably would think that they're with their soulmate right now until they find out their soulmate's a dirty scumbag. Yeah, well, I thought my first boyfriend was their soulmate. I couldn't wait to bloody start a family with him.
Starting point is 01:03:16 How did that go? Well, he's got a family. It's not my family. Oh, so he's found his soulmate then. I think so. Yeah, probably. What made you think, oh, maybe he's found his soulmate then. I think so. What made you think, oh, maybe this isn't my soulmate?
Starting point is 01:03:28 Well, it was just my first ever love. And I think when you're young, you just do think that this is it. The first time you feel love, you can't imagine ever feeling anything bigger than that. So you're like, must be it. Crazy that my first one was my, was the one. And then about a year in, you're like, ew.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Go away. My first love was probably in, you're like, ooh. Go away. I'm changing. My first love was probably my first bowl of Coco Pops. You know, when you first have Coco Pops, you're like, it does not get better than this, the breakfast cereal was. Mine would have been Taylor Hanson. I thought we were soulmates.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Was he the lead singer? Yeah, and the keyboardist. Now that's things we've got in common. Yeah. We sing and play keys. Yeah. Okay, if we were Hanson. I'm Taylor.
Starting point is 01:04:07 You're Taylor. I don't want to be the drummer. You're the ugly older brother. You're Isaac. I'm the cute little drummer. That's so mean. You can't call someone Isaac who, by the way,
Starting point is 01:04:17 is now the hottest. Has he aged well? Thank you. That's true. You're aging well. Yeah, thank you. Okay, if we were the Spice Girls, which ones would you be?
Starting point is 01:04:23 No, it's got to be groups of three. You'd be posh, kind of cold. That's true. You're aging well. Yeah, thank you. Okay, if we were the Spice Girls, which ones would you be? No, it's got to be groups of three. You'd be posh. Kind of cold. Can't sing. Kind of cold. Can't sing. Got a bit of money. You're all right.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Very thin lately. Yeah, getting fit. Like, alarmingly thin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Eats nothing but bloody chicken and salad. Who are you? You'd be Jerry. You're a naughty attitude.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Aw. A little bit of ginge. Prone to leave and, like're a naughty attitude. Aw. A little bit of ginge. Prone to leave and like not want to be involved. A little bit of ginge in the beard. Yeah. Yeah. But ultimately comes back
Starting point is 01:04:50 and has a really good time. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sporty just because I'm so athletic. I couldn't even say the words. No, I'm scary. I'm white scary.
Starting point is 01:05:01 You're white scary? Yeah. I can't argue with that. I reckon. Purely from a racial standpoint. Do you think, just to go back on soulmates, do you think that Sade's your soulmate or just that you're making it work?
Starting point is 01:05:15 Don't throw him under the bus. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day It's origin week and a half Here at Fact of the Day We're looking to the origins of words we use Every day Today, the word is salad Oh here at Fact of the Day. We were looking to the origins of words we use every day.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Today, the word is salad. Oh. Sally. Mixed, dropped some tomatoes into a bowl of lettuce and then was like, I wonder what they taste like together. There she is. There she is. No.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Salad. Well, it's got to be from our friends, the Latin-ish. The Latin-ish. In Salada. No. Salad. Well, it's got to be from our friends, the Latin-ish. The Latin-ish. Ensalada. The Latin-ish. That's Spanish for salad, ensalada. No, that is a beautiful cheese-wrapped tortilla with meat in it and cheese.
Starting point is 01:06:15 No, that's an enchilada. No, that's an enchilada. Ensalada would mean the salted, wouldn't it? The? The salada. The salata cracker. Yeah. Remember, you love a meal size, bite size, or snack size, the versatile salata.
Starting point is 01:06:33 That's the four, right? The food you love today. Yeah. The 40 snapper. You could have it four or two or one. Wow. Three if you wanted, but they didn't have a rhyming jingle for that. Because it comes from the Latin word salt.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Salted things. Salata means salted things. But salads would be something that I wouldn't consider that salty. Salted herbs, herba salata, was the first salad. Salted herbs. Because you might not be salting them now, but back in the day, your flavour choices were somewhat limited. So they didn't have Best Foods Mayonnaise sponsored
Starting point is 01:07:07 at the New Zealand Comedy Festival. Didn't they? No, not the Latin-ish. Oh, my God. Back in the days of Latin. So, yeah, it just means salted. So it was just salted herbs. I like herbs in a salad.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Me too. I always put a bit of coriander, a bit of mint, sometimes some basil. But I wouldn't heavily salt them. So they were the raw vegetables. in a salad. Me too. I always put a bit of coriander, a bit of mint, sometimes some basil. Yep. But I wouldn't heavily salt them. So they were the raw vegetables, like what you'd put in now, with a dressing of oil, if it was available,
Starting point is 01:07:33 vinegar or salt. Oh yeah. So everything with sort of a salty tang on it. That's how you, that's how they got their name. Now tomorrow's final in the origins is going to be in animals. So there's going to be a few animals with weird names and it's going final in the origins Is going to be in animals
Starting point is 01:07:45 So there's going to be a few animals with weird names And it's going to be the origins of how they got their names Are you loading us up? Are you doing zebra? I'm not but I could do zebra Can you do koala? That's my favourite animal I could do koala if you wanted
Starting point is 01:07:58 Any other requests? Text in 9696 But one that I got but I never got to use I just chuck in now as a bonus fact of the day Any other requests, Texan? Nine, six, nine, six. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We have all day. But one that I got, but I never got to use. I just chuck in now as a bonus fact of the day. George, the name. Yeah. It means earth worker in ancient Greek.
Starting point is 01:08:15 So George, geographer and geologist are all derived from the same word. And now it's Fulton Hogan. Yeah. Isn't it? If you're called Fulton. If you're called Fulton, you're an earth's Fulton Hogan. Yeah. Isn't it? If you're called Fulton. If you're called Fulton, you're an earth worker. Or a Hogan.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Yeah. I was thinking if I did have a kid, I'd probably call it Hogan. That's not the worst name I've heard. That's not the first. Yeah. Hogan. Hogan Sproul.
Starting point is 01:08:38 He sounds like a badass. Yeah. It sounds like a movie actor. Maybe because of Hulk Hogan. Trash. Trash baby. It also sounds like an arse. It sounds like a movie actor. Maybe because of Hulk Hogan. Trash. Trash baby. It also sounds like an arsonist. It sounds like a trash baby.
Starting point is 01:08:47 You can't call your fictional baby Hulk Hogan. I have a baby and I'll be like, that one's trash. I'm going to call him Hogan. I'm going to call him Hogan. You're going to make him tough though. Hogan's heroes. Great World War II sitcom. God, how did we come all the way back to World War II?
Starting point is 01:09:03 Anything. You get any subject within three steps, I could have a World War II reference out of it, especially at the moment. Yesterday I started watching the three-hour, 1970 semi-autobiographical World War II movie. Why don't you do facts of the day week, World War II facts next week,
Starting point is 01:09:21 and we'll just get it out of the system. It won't. It'll only make it worse. Flush it out. It's like a nasal rinse. You we'll just get it out of the system. It won't. It'll only make it worse. Flush it out. It's like a nasal rinse. You just got to flush it out. The teapot tip. So today's our fact of the day is the word salad comes from the Latin word meaning salted.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. A customer in the US has tested the limits of the retail service person's, limits of their patience. Limits of their patience. Yeah. Two years after buying a couch, a woman has made a big deal about returning the couch because she doesn't like it anymore. To Costco.
Starting point is 01:10:20 That is taking the mack. And she documented the whole thing, returning my couch to Costco. Costco returns, returning it, wheeling it in. Well used. You know what couch is taking the mack. And she documented the whole thing, returning my couch to Costco. Costco returns, returning it, wheeling it in. Well used. You know what couch is like after two years.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Oh yeah, we've had ours out for like six months. It already actually needs to borrow the pistol. Yeah. Does it have like something wrong with it?
Starting point is 01:10:36 She just doesn't like it anymore. Oh no. No, she literally said I don't like it anymore. Like if it's a TV or a fridge, you're reaching the limits, but it should, you should,
Starting point is 01:10:44 when you buy a fridge or a TV, expect it to work for years. Yeah, but they come with a warranty, right? They've got to work that whole time. Then you can return it. But a couch is just wood and cushions. She just doesn't like it anymore. Are you blowing up in the furniture industry?
Starting point is 01:10:59 I'll tell you what. Guys, I've got something for you. Couches are nothing but furniture and sticks. Sticks and cushions. Dead trees and polyester. So did they give her the money back? No. Of course not. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:11:11 That's taken the money. So she's just what? Trying to make a video? Trying to get a viral video. She did say that there was no limit on the returns. We guarantee your satisfaction on every product we sell and we'll refund your purchase price. Oh, well, there she's got it.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Except on electronics, diamonds, alcohols and cigarettes. Alcohols? Alcohol and cigarettes. All the alcohols. You can't return your ciggy butts. I had a terrible night out on that bottle of vodka. I'd love a refund. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:36 On this empty bottle of vodka. Yeah. We definitely had, because the only retail I ever worked in was fashion, because it's my passion. Yeah. And we definitely had people returning stuff they'd worn
Starting point is 01:11:46 for sure. Have you done that though? Yeah, all the time. Literally all the time. Literally most of the time. Because doesn't your friend have one of those tag guns that puts the tags back in?
Starting point is 01:11:56 Yeah, literally. That's a great It's a great tool to have. It's a great purchase. Boy, just a bit of a Febreze in the pits and we're all good. Good to go.
Starting point is 01:12:03 No, I'm not taking the mick that much but yeah, we would have and people would bring back stuff and be like, this had a rip in it. And you're like, that would not have been on the rack if it was that ripped. You put that rip in it. Do you know, I reckon working on the returns desk at a big store like a Kmart
Starting point is 01:12:16 or warehouse, any kind of big chain store. Especially something that sells like cheapish goods. You would I reckon you'd see some people absolutely taking the mick. Oh yeah. But also, are reckon you'd see some people absolutely taking the mic. Oh, yeah. But also, are you being paid enough to worry? Nah.
Starting point is 01:12:29 I'd just return it. Yeah, if it's not your small business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's a small business, that's a problem. But if it's a big one and it was, like you say, should we say a lower quality product? Yeah, totally. Give them whatever they want back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Well, we want to open up the phone lines. 0800 DALS at M. You can text through 9696. When was someone, when you were working in retail, taking the mickey? Are we getting some mickey takers? We're getting some mickey takers. So when have you dealt with mickey takers?
Starting point is 01:12:58 Taking the mickey bliss. I looked up the origins of it. It's Cockney slang. Oh, a little free fact of the day. Taking up the mickey bliss. Okay. Means taking the piss. Oh, there you go. Maybe someone's trying to. Oh, a little free fact of the day. Taking up the Mickey bliss. Okay. Means taking the piss. Oh, there you go.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Maybe someone's trying to return something like this couch two years later or something that was just absolutely fine. Yeah, absolutely not. I guess they just regret the purchase. I'd like to return this toothbrush. 0800 dials at Amazon number. Give us a call. You can text through 9696.
Starting point is 01:13:19 Tell us about the Mickey takers. When did a customer take the mic? We want to know when was the customer absolutely taking the mic? Yeah. A Costco customer in the US tried to return a couch after two years. They said no, which is fair. Absolutely fair. Because it wasn't just they didn't like it anymore.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Yeah, that's not how it works. That's not a returns thing. Yeah, you sell it on Trade Me or online and then you get the money and then buy a new couch. Exactly. That's how it goes. That's how you think it would Trade Me or online, and then you get the money and then buy a new couch. Exactly. That's how it goes. That's how you think it would go. Some Instagram responses. Someone said, I guess you'd call them a customer.
Starting point is 01:13:50 They thought a few lollies were going to change a pass of their driver's licence to a, sorry, going to change their fail to a pass. Oh. I said, sorry, you failed. And they said, what if you have some lollies? I think you'll find some fizzy Coke bottles in that glove box in front of you sir a few sour squirms a couple of jubes and I might pass them
Starting point is 01:14:09 I do love a fizzy coke bottle I've got a low bar for bribery what if they like crashed a car as you were doing the test that's going to cost them a picture it's a whole bag of jubes or a whole bag of dinosaurs let's take some calls Katie when was a customer absolutely taken the mick?
Starting point is 01:14:27 Hi there. So I used to work retail in a pleated store. And this lady with three pairs of tights said she fell over in all of them. Pairs of tights? Do you mean like hosiery, like leggings? Like leggings, leggings. Wow. Okay, and she's like, I can't walk in all of these tights? Do you mean like hosiery, like leggings? Like leggings, leggings. Wow. Okay, and she's like, I can't walk in all of these tights.
Starting point is 01:14:49 And we go, okay, so I don't know if she's wearing them all at the same time or something. It was just very random anyway. And so we look them up and she owned them all for over two years each. What? Yuck. Yuck. Leggings are very tight to the skin. So they just kind of reach the end of their life,
Starting point is 01:15:07 and she's like, I'll just spin a yarn. It was just very random. We didn't know what was going on. But because she was throwing such a happy fit, my manager said, screw it, and gave them all back. Oh, no. She won. There's a few texts coming in where managers are just like,
Starting point is 01:15:24 just take the $20. Just get it out. Yeah, because they're dealing with a Karen, I guess. Thanks, you call Katie. Emily, when was the customer absolutely taking the mickey? So I used to sell shoes. I sold shoes for about maybe three months. I was very good at it.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Yeah, okay. Anyway, this lady comes in. She's with her, I think she was with her daughter or something, looking for wedding shoes because we worked in the outlet. So great deals. God, I love an outlet. I love an outlet. Yeah, we love an outlet, Emily.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Why would you buy full price? I don't work there anymore. It was the merchant outlet at Hornby, and it was so good. Okay. That always has good deals. 10 out of 10 recommends. Yeah. She's still pitching the sale.
Starting point is 01:16:00 She's still selling. She's still selling. She's not even employed. I can see why you're good at it. Yeah. Yeah. And she comes in. She's buying wedding shoes with's selling. She's still selling. She's not even employed. I can see why you're good at it. Yeah. Yeah. And she comes in. She's buying wedding shoes with her daughter.
Starting point is 01:16:09 And I was like, oh, yeah. Okay, so I'm helping them. And then she goes to me. This is like my second to last day. She goes, so I have a pair of shoes at home. I bought them two years ago and wore them in Peru and they broke. What can you do? And I'm like, what do you want me to do?
Starting point is 01:16:25 Two years ago? So she wore me to do? Two years ago. So she wore them in Peru. And you wore them in Peru. She's like, yeah, but I only wore them once. And I was like, uh, nothing. And I got my manager. I was like, we can't do anything. And she's like, two years ago.
Starting point is 01:16:38 She's like, I think the deal is like two weeks and you can bring them back if they're not worn. And she told me she wore them. I was like, what? I was like, and we asked what kind of shoe they were in because we're the outlet. We can like look up things. She was like, yeah, we don't even sell that shoe anymore. So nothing.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Literally nothing. I was like, why? Why would you think? Do you know what? God loves a tryer. Do you know what I mean? She was like, I'll just try. Customers always write. You don't ask, you a trier. Do you know what I mean? She was like, I'll just try. Customer's always right.
Starting point is 01:17:06 You don't ask, you don't get. I wore them in Peru. What does that have to do? Maybe some unstable ground in Peru. Yeah. A lot of mountains. We're climbing Machu Picchu. Yeah, that's Peru climbing Machu Picchu.
Starting point is 01:17:18 If you wore a pair of high heel shoes climbing Machu Picchu, you wouldn't be able to get through. You wouldn't be, yeah. I have never worked retail and God damn it reading some of these texts I'm pleased
Starting point is 01:17:29 I don't have the patience for these morons. It's kind of reminding me because I always think oh yeah, hospo like hospo is one of the toughest industries to work in. I was like retail was fine.
Starting point is 01:17:38 No, it's retail. Oh my God. Anything customer facing. Yeah. Awful. There's people. Because people are awful. Let me blow through a few of these. Okay. Please blow through some. There's people. People are awful. Let me blow through
Starting point is 01:17:45 a few of these. Okay. Please blow through some. My husband, no, our husband, sorry, not my husband, not this person's husband. Our husband bought
Starting point is 01:17:52 a ring on sale. It was $1,999, so $2,000 down to $1,000. The wife then came into store to return it and claimed that they should refund her $2,000
Starting point is 01:18:01 because that is the value of the ring. Oh my God. Oh my God, how dumb are you? It's so... And they say this happened
Starting point is 01:18:07 all the time. People would buy things when they were on sale and then try to return them for the regular price. In their mind, they were like, I'll wait until it's off sale.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Yeah. Oh my God. And get more back. I don't like it, but I'm going to take it back and get the money for it. Stupid. We had a customer
Starting point is 01:18:21 who tried to return chocolate she left in her hot car and it had melted. She wanted a refund because the chocolates were faulty. No, that's the sun. No, chocolate she left in her hot car and it had melted she wanted a refund because the chocolates were faulty. No, that's the sun. No, chocolate melts.
Starting point is 01:18:27 That's your fault. That's what the sun does. At a vet's a customer came in needing treatment for a cat's eye and when we said here's the bill she said
Starting point is 01:18:36 you can just give that to the SPCA and they were like what? Because it's a rescue cat. It was a rescue cat. You've rescued it you dummy. You've rescued it.
Starting point is 01:18:43 by the SPCA they were going to take care of all the bills. Now it's you. Now it's your responsibility. It no longer is a rescue cat. No, but you rescued it, you dummy. You rescued it. They were going to take care of all the bills. Now it's you. Now it's your responsibility. It no longer is a rescue cat. You rescued it. We recently had guests at our Airbnb who wanted a refund
Starting point is 01:18:54 as the house was too hot in the middle of summer, in a heat wave. And they told us this on 9am the morning that they were leaving at 10am when they'd been there for a week. Yeah, nah. They wanted a week. Yeah, no. They wanted their refund. Yeah, of course they did. These amazing things in houses called windows,
Starting point is 01:19:09 and I assume most houses have them. I'm assuming there was some air con as well. I don't know. But if there wasn't, it wouldn't say it on the Airbnb, and you've gone into the Airbnb knowing there was an air con. That's on you. I worked in a four square as a teenager. A lady tried to return a half-eaten tub of ice cream.
Starting point is 01:19:24 She said there was nothing wrong with it, but it just wasn't as nice as her usual brand. When I asked her if it's not so nice, why has so much of it been eaten, she said a friend had come over for dinner and we would have had a bowl each for dessert. Oh, and she liked it? Refund denied.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Oh, my God. People, otherwise, Sarah, this is your husband that was taking the mickey? Yes, it's very embarrassing. So he's not a tradie type of fella, but he tried to, we bought a clothesline and he couldn't set it up and he decided that it was faulty and thought he'd take it back to Bunnings and walked into Bunnings with like a two by three metre clothesline. Fully set up.
Starting point is 01:20:09 I didn't come with him. I was like, you're taking the muck. I'm not going to return that. Like, that's not faulty. You just don't know how to set it up. You're faulty. You're faulty. Did they refund it?
Starting point is 01:20:21 Yes, they gave him an exchange and he ended up getting one that bounced to a wall and pulls out and then he just had to pour some concrete. Yeah, a little easier. A little easier for him. It was ginormous. You should have seen the looks that people were giving him walking into Bunnings. It was a giant clothesline and the guy
Starting point is 01:20:39 was like, what's wrong with it? And he was like, I just can't fix it to the wall. I can't set it up. It's not working. I just don't think the guy wanted to argue with him about it. Yeah, if you're crazy enough to carry the fully set up washing line in.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Yeah, fantastic. You can't argue with crazy. I never ever went back to Bunnings with him ever again. I love that. That's so good. Instead of just saying I don't know how to do it, they're like, it's faulty. It can't be me. No, it can't be. Sarah, thank you.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Some more messages. I had a customer try to return an airbed without a receipt or an airbed. Where was the airbed? The airbed had got a hole in it and so he chucked it out but didn't have a receipt or an airbed, just had a memory of an airbed
Starting point is 01:21:22 and then got mad when I said there would be no refund and he screamed, I will take you to Fairgo. We never heard from Fairgo. Fairgo, oh my god, I love that as a threat. I will be seeing you at Fairgo. Also, it's a very 1990s threat. Yeah, it is. In line at a liquor
Starting point is 01:21:36 store and some people in front of me wanted to exchange an empty box of long whites because they were expired. They'd drank them all the night before but then saw the date on the box and said, you actually owe us a box of long whites that aren't expired.
Starting point is 01:21:51 No receipt to prove that they bought it from that place or when they had bought it either. Love a trier. We love a trier. Yeah. There's so many messages. Lipstick that had melted because she left it on the dashboard in the sun.
Starting point is 01:22:02 My manager agreed to the replacement of the lipstick, even though it was her dumb fault for leaving it in the sun and half of it had been used. Can't be arsed dealing with it. No. I know I worked at a very well-known jewellery store in New Zealand. Someone purchased a branded watch, then tried to return a Bali knock-off version of that watch two weeks later. No!
Starting point is 01:22:20 And claimed we were idiots and didn't know what we were talking about. That is, that's cheeky. That's illegal. That's illegal and very, very cheeky of you. I counted 79 all rights today. Fletcher, but that's a new personal record. Oh, f*** off.
Starting point is 01:22:34 How many of those did you count? 79 of those too. All right. Well, if you enjoyed today's podcast, give us a rate and review. Oh, f*** off. ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley.

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