ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - April 10th, 2025
Episode Date: April 9, 2025On todays episode of Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod; The Chase is coming to NZ Newest influencer platform - Linkedin? Is Mr G making a comeback Surprise Saturday trend Top 6 - New names for H...ill House Cinnabun When did the flat account go bad? SLP - How long should a show be spoil free? Bad News Brad Hayley got caught by the cleaner Did you have an unusual hens-do Fact of the day Hayley stopped a heinous crime What actually makes you good in bed? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Thank you, Bryn. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.
Two minutes past six.
Hayley joining us from her Melbourne studio in her apartment.
G'day, guys.
You're doing the...
I've completely transformed into a local.
Into an Aussie.
I'm just looking in the background there.
Have you got a filter on your tap?
One of those special...
Or is it just a tap?
It's just a tap.
You remember in the 90s when everybody's kitchen sink
had the tap that you used for filling up the door,
but the little filtered guy on the side?
Oh, no, that was for rich people.
Yeah, yeah.
We didn't have one of those, no.
If your friend had a filtered tap, you were like, ooh la la.
No, it's just got a skinny handle on the tap.
Oh, gotcha, gotcha.
All right, okay. Well, Hayley broadcasting from Melbourne this morning. the top of the tap. Gotcha. All right.
Okay.
Well, Hayley broadcasting from Melbourne this morning.
Guess she's not doing as well.
Guess she's not doing as well as we thought she was financially.
I would have thought she would have been in a five-star hotel, but no.
Maybe next year, guys.
She would have been staying at the Melbourne White Lotus.
Yeah.
No, she's in a, like, it looks like a quest or something.
Can you not start the show like this?
What are you guys always doing?
Oh my God, are you in a service department?
I am.
I actually love a service department because you get a kitchen.
You get a kitchen.
You do get a kitchen.
And then you can make your own breakfast.
But what exactly is serviced about it?
So they come and they give you towels.
They give you towels but they won but that's not their job.
They give you towels, but they won't do your dishes.
I've never stayed long enough to require new towels.
Okay.
The top six is coming up.
A legal battle.
Yes.
A cease and desist.
There's a place called Cinnabon that is telling people they can't call things Cinnabons.
Cinnabons. Cinnabons.
Cinnabons.
Even though they are a cinnamon bun.
So, yeah, a well-known Auckland cafe is going to have to change up their cinnamon bun.
They've made a post about it.
We'll get into the news soon, but you've got some ideas to help them get out of this.
I'm a brainstorming guy.
Pickles on a cinnamon bun.
Give it a go.
Give it a go.
Try it out. The top six new names for the cinnamon bun. I'll give it a go. Give it a go. Try it out.
The top six new names for the cinnamon bun.
Yeah.
Brainstorming.
That aren't cinnabuns.
Just, it's got to be different enough to avoid illegal.
Yeah.
Will be today's top six.
Next on the show, Vaughan, your time has come.
Well, according to people on Instagram who have been messaging me saying,
you simply must, I believe.
But I'm not paying for my opportunity to win money.
It seems Matt will tell you exactly what is happening next.
Play ZM's Fleshborn and Hayley.
Did you know that according to Nelson figures,
the people that survey TV, who's watching what,
two out of three Kiwis watched The Chase
at some stage last year.
Wow.
Oh, yeah.
God.
I just think it's the best.
I just love it so much.
It's a great show.
It's got it all.
Because if you're wanting to watch the news, you're going to tune in even if you get the
last five or ten minutes of The Chase.
Yeah.
So you're always going to see it every now and again.
That was always my experience with The Chase, the last quarter of an hour.
So I didn't know how it got there.
But then when I started watching the whole thing, I was oh there's a it's a whole situation yeah so it
makes sense then that a new zealand chase will be filmed but here's the problem it's only four
episodes so that means only 16 people in total will be able to be on it yeah because teams are
four yeah 16 they're going to film it in australia off the back of when they do the next season of
the chase austral Okay. So they'll
just, I don't know, change up the words.
Bung us on the end. Yeah, okay. I don't know
who's hosting it, whether or not it's going to be Bradley
Walsh or the Australian guy that
does the Australian chase.
You'd want Bradley. You'd want Bradley.
Maybe they'll get him over just for like one day's
filming. And they're only bringing one
of the chasers. Okay.
The governess, Anne.
Right.
She's the one that... Oh, we like her, though.
She's good.
They're bringing the best.
They don't want to pay out.
Because isn't she...
Her and Jenny are the best.
Classic New Zealand.
We don't want to pay.
Yeah, yeah.
We don't want anyone winning.
Bring the best one down.
Who's the best at it?
So there's going to be, yeah, four episodes.
But you have to pay your own way there.
So you can apply to be on... you can apply to be on the chase.
If you get accepted,
you've got to find your own way to Sydney.
Why is everything we do so budget?
I know, it's so embarrassing.
Like news is going to get out.
This is going to go to the UK
and they're going to be like, how shameful.
I mean, I guess maybe where they film it in the UK,
contestants have to get to London.
No, I've heard there was a behind the scenes. If you're not in London, they'll put you up. Oh, really? Okay, I guess maybe where they film it in the UK, contestants have to get to London. No, I've heard there was a behind the scenes.
If you're not in London, they'll put you up.
Oh, really?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Well, I mean, it's huge over there, isn't it?
It's one of the biggest TV shows in the world.
I mean, it's one of the biggest shows in New Zealand
and it's not even made here or, you know, filmed here.
Why are we doing this?
And why only four episodes?
Maybe they're testing the water.
Testing it.
Because I remember, I think I've mentioned this before
definitely to you two
about talking to a TVNZ exec years ago
and being like
we've got to have the chase
the New Zealand version
they were like why
because the British version does so well
like we don't need our version
way less to make
because you don't have to pay the prize money
but I think keywords will tune in though
if it's a special New Zealand version
yeah 100% because we all think we can do it we all think oh yeah I could do it well if you can But I think keywords will tune in though if it's a special New Zealand version. Yeah.
100%.
Because we all think we can do it.
Yeah.
We all think, oh yeah, I could do it.
Well, if you can.
Aaron definitely does.
Yeah, everybody does.
Yeah, I got lots of people messaging me yesterday being like, this is your chance to prove yourself.
And I was like, no.
You always talk about game.
Is there a Chase board game?
Yep, we've got it.
Is there like, you know, an app or something?
There's a Chase board game.
You've got the Chase board game?
Yeah, I got it for my 40th here.
We went and did like the 40 gifts for my 40th
and that was one of them, yeah.
Okay.
The Chase board game.
The kids are always like, let's play the Chase
and they just get obliterated by dad every time.
Well, if you want to sign up for the Chase,
you've got to book your own flights.
Flights and accommodation.
I've just found Anacom.
Is it Melbourne or Sydney?
They're filming in Sydney.
Yeah, Sydney.
Filming in Sydney.
Yeah.
Okay.
But wait, they'll tell you that you've been accepted before.
You've got to book your flights after, right?
Like, don't book them now if you haven't been accepted.
Yeah.
I know, but there's a sale on at the moment.
So are you better to book now?
If you said, I've already got my flights and accommodation,
that would surely be a big tick in their book.
Yeah, like you're confident.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're going to have to have all that banter, though,
that they give you before the show.
Like, all right, Gary, you're into kites, are you?
Yeah.
Yes, I love kites.
Full moon.
What is it you love so much about kites, Gary?
The closest a man will ever get to being a bird, I suppose.
Bradley?
All right, Gary, good luck.
Thank you.
All right, Gary.
Great banter there, Gary.
Blow them out of the water with some weird shit right from the start
and I'll let you just get straight to the questions.
So I don't have a LinkedIn profile, but 2.3 million Kiwis do.
You've got LinkedIn, Vaughan, but definitely as a joke.
Yeah.
That last post, do you remember, was it on a podcast we talked about?
How I was going to use ChatGP to write a really stereotypical LinkedIn post.
And then I was like, more, hype it up, more, more.
I put it up, it got so many likes.
And it was all just fake.
It was so insane, like over the top nonsense. I'll see if likes. And it was all just fake. It was so insane.
Like over the top nonsense.
I'll see if I can find it for a quick read.
I've never had a profile or been on LinkedIn,
but it doesn't look like I enjoy it.
Breaking news.
Because you never really had a proper job.
No.
No.
This is why it's so much fun for me.
Because when I lose this job, you'll never see me again.
I'll be in the bush.
Breaking news.
I'm not just a leader.
I'm a force of nature in this industry. That's right. And it's got like emojis all through it. I don see me again. I'll be in the bush. Breaking news, I'm not just a leader, I'm a force of nature
in this industry
and it's got like
emojis all through it.
I don't follow trends,
I create them.
Every day I wake up
with one goal,
dominate,
da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
All this cool stuff.
Do you get likes?
How many likes do you get?
100 likes.
Oh yeah.
15 comments.
What do the comments say?
I hope people know I was joking.
I smell an NFT coming.
That's good stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I smell an NFT coming. That's good
stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When you're launching your crypto, bro.
But a lot of people post like,
I don't know, inspiring.
Oh, dude, it's just this kind of theme.
Can I say circle jerk on the radio?
I don't know if you can. I'd say a business circle jerk.
And a lot of people get poached and offer
jobs because of like what they post on their
profile.
Yeah, totally.
And in general, the perception of LinkedIn is like it's a bit cringe because it's such a brag fest. Like actually the thing that Vaughn's posted is not that obscure on a website like that.
It's just everyone's there to brag.
And as Kiwis, we hate that, right?
So, you know, that 2.3 million Kiwis have LinkedIn profiles, the average demographic being 25 to 34, which is like, that's your prime influencer target, right?
Yeah.
For social media influencers.
And that is why they're flocking to LinkedIn as well as your TikTok and your Instagram.
They're flocking to LinkedIn to kind of like promote themselves to great effect.
So, one New Zealand,
I hate to call him an influencer because he actually does such amazing stuff, but Dave
Lutelli, he, you know, he does a lot of stuff for the community and he was saying like social media,
your usual social medias, he was like struggling to get cut through and struggling to actually get
people to engage with him and his stuff to get, you know, food and donations.
And then he was like, I'm going to hit up LinkedIn
because he's like, LinkedIn is social media,
but for rich people.
And I was like, that's a great description, Dave.
And he said the moment that he started focusing
his social media kind of content towards LinkedIn,
he started getting high profile donors.
He started getting like donations.
Because they can donate to him
and then they can be like, guys, I did a selfless thing.
I donated to charity.
Let me tell you all about it.
In turn, making it completely selfish,
not selfless.
But it works for him
because he doesn't care
where the money's coming from
as long as it's like not the Nazis.
But are the influencers like,
are they doing their teeth whitening and stuff
on LinkedIn as well?
Or is it just...
Yeah, they kind of are.
But they pitch it like a LinkedIn post
for the teeth whitening thing.
Like I recently had this grand experience
with a local business where I got to meet
with other like-minded people,
like that sort of shit rather than just being like,
hashtag gifted, look how pearly whites are.
Yeah, so they're saying like,
rather than just using it as like a recruitment thing, which is kind of how it
started, like, hey, what are you good at? And
maybe you'd be good for this job. They're
using it to sort of promote personal
branding, which is what influencing
is, which is like, here's what I like
and here's what I stand for. And
people are just saying like, it's the new hot thing.
It's not cringe. Okay. LinkedIn's
hot. Well, you better get a
profile. You can post about your comedy show. Someone's hot. Well, you better get a profile.
You can post about your comedy show.
What if someone's already got my profile name?
What?
What if someone's already got my name?
Well, get on there and get it.
You've just told everybody that you don't have one and your profile name's up for grabs
and now you're sitting on your hands?
Come on.
There's a world of people to be influenced out there.
They're going to make me look like a doodle on it.
Hayley, you miss every shot you don't take. That's something that you'd all see here on LinkedIn
as well. And I put it as my status right now.
Iconic comebacks.
Yeah. I saw one of them last night and then when you guys mentioned it before the show, I was like,
that wasn't a dream. I thought I dreamt it. But then looking back on it, what a silly dream
it would have been.
Chris Lilley.
Oh, gosh.
Chris Lilley, who I guess last time we saw kind of was.
Lunatics was his last Netflix show.
Yeah.
Where it was a bit of brown face.
Like it didn't go down super smooth.
No.
Well, the times have changed. Yeah.
I mean, Summer Heights High was peak, right?
What?
Now, what year was Summer Heights High?
I was trying to work out the year.
It was so long ago.
Was it 2007?
Yeah, probably.
Because we were in Melbourne in 2008 and I bought the DVDs.
Summer Heights High was 2007.
Wow.
Yeah, because 2007 was my last year of high school
and we used to always reference Pocky.
Pocky Miss. Pocky Miss.
Pocky Miss.
Yeah, that's right.
So many iconic characters and sketches over the years.
Some of which have not aged well.
But he posted on his Instagram a photo of a chair.
It was a video.
It was a video of different aspects of his probably most famous character, Mr. G.
Oh, Jemay might be the most famous character.
I'd say Jemay.
Jemay would be my favourite.
But Mr. G was so good.
No, Mr. G's my favourite.
So good.
Well, yeah, so that's all he's posted.
Like, you could see someone dancing a Swiss ball, rolls past, and everyone's like, it's Mr. G.
It's Mr. G.
Mr. G is coming back.
Mum, mum.
I just, yeah, Mr. G's great.
So good.
I mean, Chris Lilley's not a homosexual, is he?
He's, that would be the most problematic part of it.
Isn't he?
I think Chris, is he? Do you know he's 50 now?
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me
He's got a weird child face though
Does have a weird child face
Does have a weird child face
So, obviously
2023, he had a rare outing with
Long Term Girlfriend
Yeah
I wasn't quite sure of his preferences
I love that I'm just being like he's not gay he shouldn't play
a gay character he's literally played an Asian woman
a black rapper
a black South African lady
so he's been
doing the odd podcast thing
and also
like an amateur nature
documentary
like getting out there.
But yeah, apparently he is making a comeback, it seems.
Mr. G.
Oh, it's definitely because if you go on his profile now,
he's put three videos up and they're all slightly different,
one of which is definitely it's Mr. G's uniform with a tie
and his crosshands on his lap.
So it's Mr. G.
Now, we said there were two comebacks.
See, I would say that's a comeback.
Yes.
Lorde, though, has been teasing music.
It seems like bad to say comeback, doesn't it?
Well, she's had a little bit of a Charlie XCX song, but prior to that.
She's been away for so long, hasn't she?
It's been a little bit of a break.
She did the classic old social media clear.
Oh, yep.
She deletes all the pictures and everything,
and then there's like a teaser for some new music.
Since I was 17, I gave you everything.
Now we wake from a dream.
Well, baby, what was that?
Okay.
Pointed lyrics, wasn't it?
What was that? Okay, wow. Okay. Pointed lyrics, wasn't it?
Okay, wow.
Lordy Lord. Because the last album, Solar Power,
is it what it's called, Solar Power?
Yeah.
I really liked it.
But some people were just like,
it was a bit like hippy-dippy.
No, I really liked it.
Yeah.
Wow, that sounds...
I like Greenlight Lord.
Yeah. That's my Lord. That sounds more like it, doesn't it? That's my Lord. Yeah. Wow, that sounds... I like Greenlight Lord. Yeah.
That's my Lord.
That sounds more like it, doesn't it?
That's my Lord.
Yeah, yeah.
That's my Lord.
That's my Lord and Saviour.
So she's teased a new song,
but we don't know about a new album,
but I mean, you'd assume it's imminent.
It's all mysterious.
Mysterious.
Very mysterious. Mr. G and Lord.
Mr. G and Lord.
Just what we need in 2025.
I feel like we do need a little bit of that.
That was a natural out, wasn't it?
It was a natural out.
It was a natural out.
Yeah, I thought that was a natural out.
You missed it.
Wow.
Fletch, you missed it.
It's just surprising when Vaughn gives a natural out.
I would like, I don't know if there's any like real train spotters that listen to the show.
Because I love stats.
I need an ongoing tally of who's missed
the most natural outs.
Because I feel like
I really wore it there,
but my natural outs
have been on fire since.
I don't know if they have.
You've missed a couple.
Hayley's missed like eight.
Yeah, but Hayley's
via Zoom in another country.
No, I know.
Yeah, give me a break.
She's been doing really well
on the road.
But I don't know.
Yeah, if there's train spotters
who listen to the show, start running some
stats on a missed out.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
I'll say over the last 48 hours, it's been
three hours of sleep. I don't know
how you're functioning. It's like SAS
level sleep deprivation to test
you. You can't fall asleep. You've got to sniper
someone. Yeah, dude.
I've got to sniper someone. I've got to sniper the audience
with my jokes, you know? At any moment.
Yeah. At any moment.
Surprise Saturdays is something that
the girlies are talking about online.
I assume
some girlies told me about this.
The producer girlies said about Surprise Saturdays.
Yeah. And I
like the idea of it, but for a completely different
reason. Girlies, is this a grown
up version of red cards?
Yes, I used to love a
red card when I was a student.
I don't like being told
when it's time to drink. Oh my goodness,
Hayley, let me tell you about
my culture. So basically...
And they say East Auckland
has no culture. Wait, but is it
alright for us to appropriate your culture?
Yeah, I'm allowing it. So basically, what
a red card is, is when you live in a flat
or like when we studied at B school,
everyone is allocated one. You have it
in a small group and you have this
metaphorical red card and you
get one a year and at any point
during the year, you can message your group chat
a red card emoji or like a red flag
and that is you saying
I am taking control of the group
tonight you have to do whatever
I say. Drop everything.
Drop everything. You have no say in this.
You then get
the group to do whatever you want. I will say people
tend to drink not in moderation
from this. That's generally the vibe.
Yeah, you're getting
on it basically. Yeah, and then there's a
way to get your red card back
if you want to have a second one.
How is this not a thing at your drama school?
It's drama school energy.
It's big drama school energy.
No, but speaking of drama school energy,
I yesterday was having lunch with a British person
and he was telling me that he comes from scrumpy land
and I said, you know, like the land
of cider and scrumpy and I said, well you must be
very aware of scrumpy hands
and he was like, what scrumpy hands? And I said
let me share with you my culture.
That's also my culture.
And I tell you what, on the show this morning
we're really putting our best foot forward when it comes to culture.
Scrumpy hands and red cards.
But the whole thing with red cards
is you tend to theme them.
So I went to a few.
One was Greek God themed
and you got assigned a God for the night.
I went to a seven deadly sins.
So you got assigned a sin with a challenge.
So it's kind of like the idea of,
yeah, you're taking control of the group
and you're dictating a theme
and an activity for the evening.
Right.
So Surprise Saturdays is the grown up version
where you would get minimal information.
You turn up to a friend's house
and they'll organise what you're doing.
They're not necessarily paying for it.
So this would be like if our friend group
just turned up at yours on Saturday
and then you've got something planned.
The gate would be shut.
I'd be like, not today.
Yeah, what do you mean turned up?
Is the surprise bit the time and the date at all?
No, no, no.
Or that's agreed on?
No, that's agreed upon.
Like, I would say to the group, hey, guys, meet at my place,
two o'clock, Saturday afternoon, leisure wear.
Oh, okay.
And bring, and, you know, we're looking at a budget of about $80 a person
or something like that.
Okay.
So you just put that out there and then they get there
and they're at your behest.
What are we doing in leisure
wear on Saturday at yours? Rock climbing.
You have
been saying to us, actually, you've genuinely
been saying to us. You really have.
I want to go rock climbing. But I don't want to
go by myself. Okay.
Do you know why? It's because
Vaughan keeps doing pull-ups at the gym
and he's got all jacked and he's got these
muscly arms.
Yeah.
What am I going to do?
I'm up to 150 a day.
I can't even use my shoulder.
I'm just going to be, I'll have to be relaying you.
Can you do that thing where you pull the load?
Yeah, I can do that.
Belay, relay.
Yeah.
That'd be fun.
Why don't you climb the wall with your big muscles,
Fletch, you're down as the base with your strong legs,
and I'll be the cheerleader because I'm the girl of the show.
No. Everyone has to participate.
But that's the problem with Surprise Saturdays. I'd look
at the people who have said they'll come and then pick
a universally disliked
thing for everybody just because
they can't say no. But also that's a good way
of putting people out of their comfort zone. Maybe trying something
new. Totally. Challenge
yourself. Yeah. So it's kind of
like going on a stag do or a hens.
It's like a blind date.
Yeah. But one
person's not being targeted. It's not one
person's special day. It's kind of like
a group activity. I like that.
But it's got big. And when I was like
in my 20s, I would have been very cynical about this
and I said this reeks of Christian youth group.
Yeah. But now that I'm in my
40s, I'd be like, I'll give that a go.
Yeah, it'd be fun.
Because it's doing something different.
I miss a long time ago we had a United Nations potluck.
That was great.
That was a good idea.
Everybody bought something from around the world, a different country.
And they browned up their faces if they were representing a brown nation.
Yeah, I bought tacos and went full blonde sombrero, fake moustache,
spoke in the accent, thin lizzie'd myself to within an inch of it, you know?
Yeah.
It was a different time.
It was a different time.
Play ZM's Fleshborn and Hayley.
Play ZM's Fleshborn and Hayley.
From the unmoderated comment section, this is the top six.
All right.
Hill House in Auckland has been ceased and desisted from Cinnabon.
This is an Auckland cafe.
Correct, yes.
The years have been selling this.
Cinnabons.
Yeah, they spell, which is like A big fat cinnamon scroll Real good up
Looks currently
Amazing
I don't even think
They are
Seasonal
They're not a seasonal
They're an
A year round
Situation
Of course
You can have a Cinnabun
Anytime you want
Yeah
Totally
Cinnabon
The big American company
Came into
Where they've got
One store now in Auckland.
Ah, yeah.
And they were like, stop it.
Cease and desist.
Because I'm assuming when they came in,
they copyrighted and trademarked everything.
Yeah.
So I guess when you're a small family-run cafe,
you don't really think about having to trademark everything.
And that's what we've always called them, right?
Cinnamon buns.
Can they even call them cinnamon scrolls or cinnamon buns?
So apparently the letter that the cafe got, the cease and desist,
said that it can no longer use the name Cinnabon or anything close to it.
How did Cinnabon even become aware of this?
Like, I just don't understand.
Yeah, I guess online.
Maybe.
But we're just little old New Zealand
Listen to this paragraph in Hill House Cafe's Instagram post
These buns began as a Sunday ritual
Baked by Ricardo and his grandmother
When he was just four years old
The same recipe is still baked from scratch
Every morning by our amazing team
And that same love now still lives in every single swirl
Only the name's changing
Oh, they've basically
It's the David and Goliath
And they've just loaded up their slingshot with the
he did this when he was a baby child with his grandmother
who I assume is six months.
Yeah. Oh my god, they look
good though. Oh my god.
Go and buy one. Let's get a couple.
Let's get a couple. Hell House campaign.
Go support them. Get a couple on the go.
But you're going to help them out with a new
name for them. Yeah, I've got six names
here. The top six names.
Because it just has to be different enough.
Yeah, okay.
So our number six on the list is the Almost Cinnabons.
I don't know because you're still saying Cinnabons.
Yeah, but it's Almost Cinnabons.
Yeah, I don't know.
It would be like me making a movie called Almost Star Wars.
What about Seven Deadly Cinnabons?
Almost Star Wars.
Oh my God, you should see my film, Almost Lord of the Rings.
Yeah.
But it's not Lord of the Rings, but it's Almost.
It's adjacent.
Yeah.
Almost.
I don't think they'll let you use that one.
Almost Titanic.
Okay.
Our number five on the list of the top six new names for Hill House's Cinnabons,
Cease and a Cinnabon.
Perfect, but again, you've got Cinnabon in it. They should just call them Cease and Desist Buns. The Cease and Desinabun Again Perfect But again you've got Sinabun in it
They should just call them
Cease and Desist Buns
The Cease and Desist Buns
Oh my god
That would be brilliant
Cease and Desist Buns
I just think
Cease and Desinabun
Is funny
Cease and Desinabun
Yes
That's a good one
That's a good one
Cease and Desinabun
Buns
Yeah
Have you got like
Four more
I've got four more
Okay
Do you feel like
We're sort of moving Towards that as a show You know Top six I've got like Four more Because you could just Do a top six I've got four more Okay Do you feel like We're sort of moving
Towards that as a show
You know
Sort of a
Top six
I've got the top six
You can have it
No I don't want it
Take it all
Number four on the list
Of the top six
New names for Hill House
Is Cinnabuns
Cinnanottabun
Cinnanottabun
Yeah
It's not in there It's quite good It's not Yeah okay Cinnottabun. Cinna-not-a-bun. Yeah. It's not in there.
It's quite good.
It's saying it's not.
Yeah, okay.
Cinna-not-a-bun.
Cinna-not-a-bun.
Cinna-not-a-bun.
Cinna-not-a-bun.
Cinna-not-a-bun.
Number three on the list of the top six possible new names
for the cinna-buns from her house.
The bun formerly known as cinna-bun.
Okay, yeah.
But again, you're using cinna-bun.
And then the cinna-abon is just a symbol,
and it's a scrolly symbol,
but a bit of like, how do I pronounce that?
And you say, it's pronounced the bun formerly known as Cinnabon.
Again, I don't know how that's going to go.
It's Cinnabons in it, yeah.
Number two on the list of the top six new names
for the Hill House Cinnabon.
What about Cinnanimbon?
Yeah, I like that. Because you know when something's like something
but it's not it, you say it's a Cinnanum.
Because you're still allowed to use the word bun,
right? Well, your bun's not trademarked.
They don't own bun.
That's crazy. They don't own bun?
Yeah. And number
one on the list of the top
six new names for the
Hill House Cinnabon to appease
Cinnabon.
Sin of Buns.
Sin of Buns.
Sin of Buns.
They've committed a sin.
They're a gooey, like,
a gooey, evil treat.
I love that.
But also letting them
know that they had
committed the sin.
So good.
Everybody here is just
celebrating for Cinnabon.
Yeah.
I know.
We've had a message in as well saying that the ones at Hill House Cafe are amazing.
Yeah.
Way better than American Cinnabon.
They look.
They look absolutely slick.
They look really good.
They look real good.
That is today's top six.
Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
We want to ask now when the flat accounts went bad.
Yeah.
Because there's always some shiftiness, isn't there?
Yeah, dude.
If not everybody's seeing the bills coming in and going out
and you're just told, oh, the power's this much,
you just pay it, don't you?
Yeah, you do.
You wrongly trust people, don't you?
Yeah.
Trust is earned and when it's broken.
That's right.
Well, this has started from a Reddit post
and this is a wild story.
So this lady, she has been dating this man for five years.
They moved into a,
it sounds like one property with two houses on it.
Yeah.
And his parents were living in one house.
Yeah.
And her and her partner were living in the other.
So this is his parents that are living in the other house.
I'd put my parents in the smaller one.
I'm just saying.
Do you know what I mean?
They need less room.
I'd be in the big one.
And would you sell it to them?
Like, you know, it's less to clean.
It's easier to maintain that sort of vibe.
Yeah, for sure.
Like, this is what you need.
I think this is what you want.
Less responsibility.
So they said the rent for the total property was $1,600.
Oh, no, no.
So for their half of it was $1,600.
So the boyfriend was putting in $800 a month
and she was putting in $800 a month.
That's cheap.
Yeah.
That's cheap, man.
She has just found out that the money she was putting into his account,
for the rent, he was just keeping it.
And he wasn't paying rent.
Because the dad was covering the entire property's rent
and saying to the son, you live there rent free,
I'll help you out.
But he said to her, this house is $1,600 a month,
let's go halfsies.
She's like, okay, cool.
So he's getting $200 a week. And this has been going on for years. For a year, just's go halfsies. She's like, okay, cool. So she's just basically... So he's getting $200 a week.
And this has been going on for years.
For a year, just over a year.
Yeah, when she found out.
And then, how do you reckon she found out? Like, the
dad just said, you know, it's so nice to help
you kids out, rent free,
must be such a good help.
She's like, what?
So, she hit him up about it, and he said
he apologised for the dishonesty, but still couldn't really see the issue, because, like, what? She's like, what? So she hit him up about it and he said he apologised for the dishonesty
but still couldn't really see the issue because, like,
his dad was paying for it and that's his dad.
Yeah, but give the money to the dad.
Nah, because his dad isn't charging them any rent.
But he's my dad, so of course.
Yeah.
He's not your dad, so you've got to pay rent.
So I know that that's fine.
This guy's got only child energy hard.
He does have only child energy.
Also, how long did you
say they've been together for? Five years?
That's a betrayal.
And that's an injury. You're breaking up
with that guy, right?
She just told me.
Oh, get out.
He turned around and said, okay, it's all
here in an account for our first time.
Oh, she's a woman, she'd still be shitty.
Because she'd be like,
I wanted to buy a cardigan and there was no money.
Cardigan?
Well, I don't know what she wants to buy.
We're not really doing cardigans.
We're not really doing cardigans.
Okay, I'll head a little closer to home.
I want to spend thousands of dollars on a leather jacket
and I didn't have it because of the rent situation.
Can you just make your scenarios more relatable to you? Yeah. Specifically to you?
Yeah. For me, I'm the target. Yeah. You're the target. Yeah. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. So this is
what we want to know because this happens in flats all the time. So we had this in our social circle.
Not, it wasn't the flat that I was living in though every now and then i also would be a day late for rent yeah and my friend rio would just sort it out but
that's a different story um siggy's and wine came first yeah but um and during the same time there
were friends that had a flat and there was just one person was in charge of it we were all assuming
that the bills were getting paid until it was revealed, like, they hadn't paid for power and, you know, electricity and something for ages.
And then it was, like, too late.
And they'd just been putting in this money and she'd been spending it.
And they just cut the power off and that's when you knew.
Yeah, I think, like, people came over and there was a debt collection and stuff.
Oh, my God.
That is wild.
Okay, well, that's what we want to ask this morning.
0800 dials at Emma's number.
You can text through 9696.
When did the flat accounts go bad?
We're talking about the fiddling of the flat accounts.
It's when there's a shared account, money goes into it,
what's somebody doing?
Because a girl has gone online
to share the fact
that her boyfriend
has been pocketing
her rent money
as her dad,
his dad has been
covering their rent.
Yeah.
So he's just been using
her $800 a month
as spending money.
I feel we need to touch
more on the fact
that when one of your
old flatmates moved out,
you charged more
for their room,
so you paid less.
Well,
as the establishing couple of the flat and the last remaining OGs, when people moved out, you charged more for their room so you paid less. As the establishing couple
of the flat and the last remaining
OGs, when people moved out
and somebody else moved in, the rent
game had changed and rent had become
more expensive so we would add $10 and
take $10 off our rent.
Like an admin fee.
We owned everything in the flat.
But also that's how some flats are divvied up
because if some rooms are bigger, someone pays more.
So that's not unusual.
Hey, that's the free market, baby.
I didn't ask for capitalism,
but I'm not going to let all these opportunities pass me by.
Did anyone ever discover that you were doing this?
No.
But it's, see, I don't mind that, the room difference thing,
but it's when someone was skimming off bills
and saying that power was more. Somebody said their flatmate was very
fastidiously in charge of the group shop. And it's quite a responsibility
so everyone was willing to let them do it, no questions
asked, just for the essentials and stuff. And then we had a new flatmate move in
and it was like, can I see the receipt? And the flatmate was like, no.
They throw it out. And they're like, well, next time, can you keep the receipt?
And they went through and checked and they added it all up.
Guess what?
Skimming.
No, the flatmate, every time they'd do the flat shop,
would get 20 bucks out and buy a pack of cigs.
So the flat was all chipping in for 20 bucks and a pack of cigs.
Classic.
When it came up.
Some other messages.
My flatmate said
our water bill was $100 a month
so I paid her religiously
for a year.
It turns out our landlord
covered water.
That was included in the rent.
What?
Oh, see, that's like
outright ripping someone off.
Yeah, totally.
My mate not only
charged his flatmates enough
so that he could live rent free,
he also made about $15 a week.
It's probably ciggies again. It's always for the ciggies.
It's always for the ciggies. You're not going to get many ciggies
for $15 though. No. These days.
My best friend was overcharging and I had
no idea because I have severe dyslexia until my
mum looked at my accounts and realised that I'd been paying twice
the amount of rent I should have been paying.
Twice? That's rough. That's
taking advantage of somebody in a
situation. I lived in a flat
in Auckland, moved in, wasn't allowed to put any furniture in the house.
Lockdown happened, the main tenant lost their job,
so just hid in her room.
The rest of us got along really well.
Turns out after some digging, we were paying the rent
and the total added up to the entire house's rent.
So she was rent free?
Yeah, she wasn't paying anything
and had the main bedroom with a walk-in wardrobe and ensuite.
And we only found this out because we all started
talking about how much rent we were paying.
Wild.
Not me, but my daughter's flat. A rich family
owned the flat for the son.
He charged everybody for bills
and full rent, but the bills
went unpaid.
Then the tragic death of a flatmate,
he still charged the family rent.
Even though he was not
paying any rent, his family
owned the property. Then he rented
out the room, so he got double the rent
while the family was
paying the three weeks.
Had some heart.
And kept all the dead flatmates
stuff in the garage, despite the family
wanting to come up and go through his stuff.
My daughter soon left the flat.
What a POS.
Yeah.
Point of sale.
Is that what you mean?
What an absolute point of sale.
What an absolute point of sale.
I was going to say the same thing.
Dude, you're such a point of sale.
You are such an electronic funds transfer at point of sale.
And I've had enough of it.
Slightly different, but our flatmate change from paying weekly
to paying it fortnightly.
When she switched, she accidentally paid more.
I didn't realise until she moved out.
Wondered why we suddenly had an excess in our bill account.
Never told her.
Viewed it as her mistake.
What was he, does he?
Yep.
Oh, I mean, you know, take advantage of that.
But that's what Monopoly taught us, right?
Like bank error in your favour. Bank error in your favour. Flatmate error in your favour. Flatmate error in your favour, take advantage of it. But that's what Monopoly taught us, right? Like bank error in your favour.
Bank error in your favour.
You keep it.
Flatmate error in your favour.
Flatmate error in your favour.
You're keeping it.
You're keeping it.
Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley.
Fletchbourne and Hayley, silly little poe, silly little poe.
It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little poe,
silly little poe, silly little poe, silly little poe, Silly Little Poll today is about spoilers.
After a TV show or movie releases,
how long is the grace period before you can post slash talk about spoilers?
I think one, I voted one day.
One day?
Yep. No. One day. No, no, no, no I voted one day. One day? Yep.
No.
One day.
No, no, no, no.
One whole day.
Like, for example, White Lotus was Monday night.
Yeah.
I would, if I was to post or talk about it, I'd do it on Wednesday.
Monday the following week.
No, no, no.
You've got to give people a week.
Yeah, I say a week too.
No.
And it's not just because I haven't watched the White Lotus finale yet.
And I think TV shows a week
but a movie longer.
I just don't think if it's a movie
longer you don't talk about
spoiler alert. The reason
I say a day is because
all the media companies and
the meme makers don't wait.
So if you're not watching a show
that's weekly like White
Lotus or starting on Monday,
there's The Last of Us Season 2.
If you're not watching that show on the day it comes out,
you're screwed.
You're going to get spoilers.
There were so many company memes about the Walton Goggins,
you know, the scene with the monologue in it with...
Sam Rockwell.
Sam Rockwell.
Like literally within an hour
of that episode airing, he was releasing it.
I didn't know. He was in more
of the show. Sam Rockwell was in more.
You didn't tell me that. I know.
It was a surprise. I know you love him.
Love Sam Rockwell. Such a great
season too. Well, we asked.
57% of respondees
said at least a week.
That is by miles that is out there.
I mean, people are busy, right?
They don't always have time to sit down on demand or when the episode comes out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think we were all kind of bruised by the red wedding, you know, that kind of got
spoiled for a lot of people.
Yeah, for Game of Thrones.
Yeah.
So the second most popular was three to six days at 17%.
So I will say 40% less.
Yeah. Than the people who said over a week at 57. And then one%. So I will say 40% less. Yeah.
Than the people who said over a week at 57.
And then one and two days were both 13% each.
So.
Okay.
Some feedback.
Sophie says it was only 24 hours.
I was only 24 hours behind watching the White Lotus final
and got a massive spoiler on Facebook.
I saw it on Facebook too.
I had it spoiled for me.
It wasn't like mystery thing, click here.
It was like who died and a picture of it.
Yeah, don't.
Right, yeah.
And I was like, that's so,
like not even two days afterwards at that stage.
Yeah, that's bad.
That was bad.
Never, said Tony Anna.
Never, just don't.
No one wants to know your thoughts.
I heard an interesting thought about the time where a spoiler resets itself.
So the Sixth Sense movie.
Yeah.
The original M. Night Shyamalan ultimate twist that got him making 12 more movies that nobody likes.
Nobody likes, yeah.
Apart from Signs.
Signs was good.
I think we can all agree.
Signs was good.
When the alien walks past the kid's birthday party,
I shit my pants.
Yeah.
So now there was the sixth sense when it came out,
when it was at the movies.
Yeah.
Then it became sort of a cultural touch point for everyone of that age.
Yeah.
That everybody knew the spoiler.
But now, 20 years later,
there's a whole generation of people that wouldn't have had that cultural touch point.
So you're not allowed to spoil it.
So you shouldn't spoil the old spoilers either.
Do you know what I mean?
You shouldn't spoil the old movies because it's refreshed itself.
It's almost overgrown again.
Because Gen Alpha and Gen Z can't buy houses,
so don't spoil their movies too.
Bingo.
Nah, but he is dead the whole time.
No!
What?
Hayley.
Hayley.
A year, said Kate. What? Hayley. Hayley. What?
A year, said Kate.
I want a year's grace period on any spoilers.
The very next day while gathering at the waterhole slash water cooler,
just like we used to do in my day,
week to week for the whole season when broadcast television
was the only way to watch something.
Yeah.
And you could never watch it back.
Yeah.
No, unless you video recorded it.
Bree said,
What?
No spoilers at all.
You need to post vague intrigue
until somebody responds
and then and only then
you can begin a one-on-one conversation
with what has happened.
Yeah.
The statute of limitation for spoilers,
says David,
should be at least 10 years.
Would you like to know
the ending of Game of Thrones?
Are you joking, says Gracie.
It's got to be like a fortnight to a month minimum.
No.
Annie said, definitely a week or more.
To be courteous of people who can't watch it straight away,
like shift workers, do you want to ruin everything for nurses?
Yeah.
We don't.
We don't want to ruin everything for nurses.
And people who spoil shows on purpose absolutely suck.
I hope you fall over today.
Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley.
Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley.
Now, joining us in studio...
Bad news, Brad.
Good morning.
Thank God.
Thank God.
I think I'm going to earn this nickname very, very much again today.
Oh, no, Brad.
Oh, no.
Save us.
It's been a tough time, guys.
Jeepers.
Have you seen the markets?
Have you actually?
I don't know what it really means, to be honest.
The markets.
Have you looked at your KiwiSaver?
Oh, yes, absolutely.
Now, I believe that must be a miscalculation.
I haven't managed fun with a little bit of money in it,
and I think I was gloating to these guys like...
13%?
Which is like, yeah, at one stage,
and now it's like minus three.
Yesterday it was like minus three returns.
So I've actually lost money.
That's fun.
Yeah, I mean, so you were a baller for a moment
and then you really weren't.
He's a baller and now he's balling.
Guys, it's a ball ache.
Can we start from the start?
Because it's all very confusing.
How did this all happen?
Well, US President Donald Trump came out and he said,
you know what, tariffs are beautiful, the most amazing thing,
and he decided that everyone in the world needed to experience that.
So he put a minimum 10% tariff on everyone,
and then basically there were about 60 countries
that cost something up above that, something up to 50% tariff.
Now, tariff is an import tax,
so anything that, say, China was sending to the US,
those consumers now have to pay
whatever that tariff rate is more.
So for New Zealand wine,
people who are sending New Zealand wine to the States,
if you're buying it over in the US,
you're paying 10% more than you were before
for a bottle of Sauvignon Blanc.
So tariffs essentially were to protect local industry, right?
So you would put a tariff on a wine so that US wine was cheaper and preferred?
Is that what tariffs were originally for?
That's the idea.
It's still bad economic principles.
Generally, you see tariffs more in developing countries
where you're trying to start up an industry.
You've got a new country where it's pretty low income
and you want to make sure that your local producers
don't get screwed over immediately.
The US is the biggest economy in the world.
It does not need tariff protection.
So this is just bad economic policy.
And that's why the markets have reacted like this.
Basically, everyone out there in the economy is going, oh, my God, we're going to be paying a lot more for stuff.
If we're paying more on the tariff front, then that's less money that consumers can spend in America on just physical items
because they're paying a tax, they're not paying for other stuff.
And so all the businesses are going, holy crap, I haven't got enough money.
I'm not going to be able to make as much.
So all of a sudden, everyone's gone, look, I'm selling off.
I don't want that stock price anymore.
It's not good for me.
It's not going to make me money.
They've been running away.
So it's been a chaotic couple of days.
Even overnight, President Trump said, hey, look, these big tariffs that I thought were
big and beautiful, we're going to pause them.
Joking.
This was my plan.
This is what they've come out in this morning and said, this was my plan all along.
No, it wasn't.
It really wasn't.
And so now the markets have shot up.
Now, they're still worse than where they were before the tariffs have come through. But there's a little bit more relief coming forward, a little bit less bad today than it was yesterday.
But let's be clear.
It's now been six, seven days.
We have no idea where this rollercoaster goes next.
So it's just, there's a lot of ups and downs.
And he's still putting 125% tariffs on China,
but that's going to affect us too, right?
Yeah, well, I mean, firstly, how insane is that?
Whatever products are now going into the US from China
are now double the cost of what they were a couple of days ago.
Like, double.
And is China the US's biggest trading partner?
It is.
Or one of them?
It's most of our biggest trading partners as well, right?
Now, and the flow-on effect for New Zealand is that if China has got this big tariff
and the US are not buying as much from China,
then at some point China's probably not making as much.
If they're not making as much in China,
they're not going to be paying as many workers in China
because they don't need as many.
And what's going to happen then? Those Chinese workers that don't have as much money, they're not going to be paying as many workers in China because they don't need as many. And what's going to happen then? Those Chinese
workers that don't have as much money, they're not going to
be able to afford to buy New Zealand lamb,
they're not going to be able to buy New Zealand milk.
So that's where the sort of flow and effect for us comes from.
There's going to be less free spins on
Teemu too, probably.
Oh, I love my free spins. I always get a nice
little air free. I always win.
I always win. It's always like, hey, here's $350
but you've got to spend it in the next 10 seconds.
I'm pretty sure you're always supposed to win on those things.
But it's nice to
have a win. If people are looking
at their funds,
Kiwi Savers, and they're panicking,
what should and shouldn't they do?
Some people are just freaking out. Oh, and
totally understandable. I mean, geez, this is
a big event. This is probably, you know, this is some of
the worst things we've had since the start
of COVID, the global financial crisis.
Like, let's not beat around the bush.
This is big, big stuff. But this is man-made
though, this one. This is deliberate.
I think for people... Confirmed man-made.
Orange made.
If you are
out there and you're worrying about your KiwiSaver or
your investments, firstly, take a breath because
it's happened. You can't do anything about what's already gone through, so just
take a bit of a breath. If you are looking at retiring soon and you're going to need
that KiwiSaver, if you're thinking of buying soon and you're going to need that cash for
a deposit, go and talk to someone. Don't rashly do anything about it on your phone right this
second. Go and talk to someone, make it quick so that you can make a good decision, but
you probably want to be thinking about your risk tolerance. Now, again, I've said on the show before, personally, not looking to
use my KiwiSaver at any point in the next couple of years. So I'm real happy for it to go up and
down because I think I can recover it over the next 40 or so before I retire. If I was looking
to use it for a home deposit the next couple of months, I don't want it to fluctuate. If I need
to go to the bank and say, hey guys, I need my deposit, they're going to say, well, you told us you had $40,000 and now it's only worth $35,000. Where's the
extra $5,000? So you might want to be a little bit more conservative on your risk if you're
in those sorts of areas, maybe moving into a cash fund or something like that. But talk
to your advisor. They'll know they'll have a lot of queries like this at the moment,
but I wouldn't panic and make a big change. That's often where the regret sets in.
I just feel like to breathe.
I think I feel like to breathe
in the entire time you're talking, Sasha.
Is the idea, Brad, that like,
if you can hold on,
you know, if you're not going to buy a house
this year, next year,
that once Trump's out...
It's a long time for that.
Well, he might almost be doing that executive audit for a third
term, isn't he? Yeah, but is the idea that hopefully the next person will kind of remove
these and things will resettle? I mean, that's part of it. I think also, let's be clear, the
last couple of days, again, you've seen so much ups and downs. I'm just looking at the Dow Jones
at the moment. It's still down about 5% from where it was, you know, back before the tariffs came in,
if you look sort of going back a month or so.
But it's been far, far lower than that.
You know, it's recovered, I'm not going to say half of its losses,
but a fair bit in the even last couple of hours.
So let's just be clear, this is a rollercoaster ride,
and I don't know if I'd be making any particularly strong movement
on any of these announcements.
Everything seems to change in an instant.
And I sort of feel like the best move for a lot
of people is if you were already
worried, then you should probably have already moved
and you should already be in motion to do that.
If you haven't moved yet, it might
well be worth
talking to some people, but honestly,
give it a week and you could see a whole different
ballgame here. So I think the main thing here is
don't jump at shadows because there are a lot of them
at the moment. If you did have a bit of cash, is it a good time to do the old buy the dip idea yeah yeah yeah
i heard a lot about that and and i think i mean again i mean it sort of comes down to how much um
how much wrist tolerance how much gumption have you got if you're sort of pretty keen that you
can i have nothing but gumption you are nothing well see that's that's sort of what I thought. Brad, I'm gumption and vibes.
Gumption and vibes would be a great folk band name,
shouldn't it be? I reckon it would be a good investment term.
Gumption and vibes.
Yeah.
Which is just...
It's just a Ponzi scheme.
People don't go to jail for those anymore, do they?
They definitely do.
They definitely do.
Okay, so some questions we all had.
Somebody said, I recently got some inheritance.
Is it worth just putting in the bank?
I need safety because I'm close to retirement.
But do I need safety or should I be looking to invest in something else right now?
Oh, I think, look, I think the answer's sort of in the question.
If you want safety, then yeah, you don't want to be risking it.
So you'd probably want to put some of it in the bank,
at least enough to keep you going over.
Well, just enough to keep you going over.
Yeah, that would be my first place.
The other thing is, is if you've got that money, you'd almost want to put a good bulk
of it in a term deposit and then make a bit of a call.
Sit back and go, okay, what do I actually want the money to do for me?
Because again, you don't want to sort of stress out because the worst thing you could do in
that situation, right, is take all of that inheritance or whatever, plonk it on something
that's just like gambling at that point.
And then five seconds later going, oh no, I didn't think that through.
So take the time to think it through.
One more question.
Fixed term mortgages up this week.
Do I fix now or wait to see if the OCR is going to drop?
OCR dropped yesterday.
But what flow on to fixed rates?
I think, I mean, it's floating pretty quick, but fix can take a week.
Yeah, it does take a while to come through.
I think for a lot of people out there when they're thinking about their mortgages,
we know that a lot of people are fixing short
because they think it'll continue to come down.
Again, run the numbers.
You know, are you better on a two-year?
Are you better on a six-month?
I think those floating rates at the moment are still pretty high,
so I don't know if I'd be doing too much.
But then what happens to our mortgage rates
if the US goes into a recession and the shitstorm continues?
Well, on one hand,
you could definitely see the likes of interest rates come down.
That's what the Reserve Bank sort of signalled yesterday.
That's almost their leaning, but they're not super strong on it because, and not to get
too technical, this is a supply shock.
This is not a classic demand.
It shouldn't necessarily be that you cut, cut, cut, because you could see more inflation
coming through from the US.
Which we've just battled from last summer.
Interest rates are too low.
And that's how we also got rid of the inflation
is with high interest rates. So all I'm saying
here is there is a balanced risk on either
side. Again, wouldn't jump at the shadows immediately.
Probably we'll know a lot more
come the middle of May when the Reserve Bank
comes out with their next set of forecasts. So
steady the ship for a minute.
Join Brad and I on our new financial podcast
Vibes and Gumption.
This is good. It's like he takes the safe road and I just gamble everybody new financial podcast Vibes and Gumption. This is good.
It's like he takes the safe road
and I just gamble everybody's TV set.
I love that idea.
Brad, thank you so much for coming in.
Thank you.
Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
Okay, so I'm in Melbourne for the Comedy Fest at the moment
and I'm staying in these sort of service departments.
They're fine.
Like it's nice, but it's
the kind of nice where, like, the towel rails
come off the wall, and so they've
just screwed it higher and left the holes.
Yes! That's a
landlord fix. What you've got on your hands
is a landlord fix. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. So you're like, okay, well, that's
fine. You know, it's serving me
well. Yeah. But I don't
think I really knew
what serviced apartments meant i thought it was just sort of like a little bit like a hotel and
maybe a couple of times a week housekeeping will come and give me some fresh sheets yeah
because every everyone's always different sometimes they just leave you there for the
two or three days you're there yeah and they don't do anything it's probably based on how
long you're staying right if it's two or three days you're there and they don't do anything. It's probably based on how long you're staying, right? If it's two or three days,
wallow in your own filth, you filthy little piggy.
But if you're there for like,
how long are you there for?
Two weeks, three weeks?
15, 15 nights.
15 nights, they're probably like,
she looked mucky on the way in.
Maybe we'll give her some towels in a week.
No, no.
You've got towels after three days energy
and a change of sheets.
Fletch, I'll give you two nights
because you're a sheet muckier.
He's a flannel ruiner. He's a sheet muckier. I don't know.
You're a dirty boy. He's a flannel ruiner.
He's a flannel ruiner.
We know this.
Rumours about your sheet usage are probably spread
throughout the hospitality industry of Melbourne.
That's because I cleaned my shoes once with a flannel.
Oh, and then you got an $8 charge.
I have an $8 flannel fee.
So I sort of thought the same.
I've got three-day towel energy.
I've got three- to four-day sheet energy for a service department. So this happened on thought the same. I've got three-day towel energy. I've got three-day, three to four-day sheet energy
for a service department.
So this happened on the first night.
Like had the first night here.
Next day, did my radio.
And after radio, I've been getting back into bed
and having a little schnooze
because it's very early here in Melbourne.
And this is when I was awoken
to someone in the apartment
and I was like, what is happening?
And I realized, one, I was nude
and two, all items of clothing that I had
were in this common area
and not in the little bedroom that I was in.
So there was no way to not be nude
and that's when I see a little peeping face
poke in through, there's a little sliding cavity
door, poke in and say,
oh my goodness, I'm so sorry. And it was
housekeeping. And they're just like turned up.
And obviously they'd knocked on the
door to, you know,
housekeeping, housekeeping. I was fast asleep.
They thought no one's here. In they come,
start cleaning the thing and I'm in there completely
nude. And she absolutely
copped a tit. Did she?
Don't you have one of those signs to put on your door?
Oh, you want to
send those now, Fletch? I'll send them now.
They do not disturb. What is it, your first time
in a hotel room?
It's not a hotel, it's an apartment.
I thought I had longer.
So anyway, I do apologise
to the housekeeping here at the apartment.
It's not the first time they've seen one of those.
A tit?
Yeah.
But it sounds like you said it was a she.
She may have her own.
She could have her own.
Yeah, so she's probably seen some that day.
Now, I don't know a lot about them having only ever seen one pair.
Yeah.
Christian Boy.
Of course.
But I hear they can look different.
They vary in shape size and
color um so maybe did she linger and different to hers did she linger and maybe no scarper okay
are you suggesting that it wasn't a good boob it's not a good review if she's scarping no
how dare you how very very dear you fled you, Fletch? A slightly lingering peak?
Yeah, but then that's creepy, isn't it?
No, she's scarred, but she got a fright.
She's scarred, but she was scared.
Mother of man, must do.
Must do.
Must do a reasonable explanation that she's got terrifying breasts.
Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
This is going to blow your mind.
So Emily Marchant, she is a bride-to-be,
had a hen stew, had a whole weekend,
you know, not just a one-nighter, but a weekend.
Yeah.
And she, they had a big night on the Friday,
went out, had a 3 a.m. finish.
So, you know, there were some tequila's involved.
3 a.m. finish, 9 a.m., she's on the start line for a marathon. Oh, you know, there were some tequila's involved. 3am finish. 9am
she's on the start line for a marathon.
Oh no, no thanks.
A full marathon. She's one of those people
that goes on runs on holidays.
It's good for you and you get to see some
stuff. I'm not against
that you ever run on holiday.
I'm not against it, but I shall never do it.
You 100% can be holier than thou
to everybody who didn't go for a run.
Oh, yeah, that's the best part.
So part of the hen's do is not only partying,
but it's also doing a marathon.
Doing a marathon.
So I think some of her bridal party came along,
but here's the crazy bit.
So 3 a.m. finish in town, 9 a.m. we're on the start line.
She finishes in third.
She gets
a podium finish. Wow. That's impressive. I can't even walk to the fridge after a 3am finish. You
know what I mean? Like I'm bringing Uber Eats to the bed and she finishes third on a podium.
And she was like, we just did this. We got here. We did this. We had a few drinks. Um, some,
some people were feeling questionable in the morning and I was trying to be
sensible the night before. I got too excited
and then the marathon was part of the thing and she
just did it. So, I mean,
bravo. Never, never in your
life were you so excited. Did the other girls even make it up
to get to the finish line to clap her on
as she came across? Because if you start
those marathons early, you're done by like
especially if she came third. Nine.
She could have been done by nine, ten.
Still be in bed, yeah.
She's obviously a keen runner.
Did it in sub three.
So if it started at nine,
okay, yeah, I'd still
be in bed.
Lunch, yes, so starts at nine.
Lunch, noon, she's crossing the finish line.
Wild. So impressive.
It's just a little bit out of the ordinary, isn't it,
for a hen's do, which you think it'll be, you know,
maybe if it's a pottery or a winery tour.
We want to know this morning,
what was the weird thing at the hen's do, the strange event,
the thing that was a little bit out of the ordinary?
Did you have an unusual hens or stags?
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll take stags as well.
Yeah, I just want to know if you just,
maybe you did a really odd activity that maybe had a few people
asking questions, raising eyebrows.
I don't know.
I kind of cringe when I see some of the stag does when they're dressed
and it's just, I don't know.
I like a more chill.
I did it again would like a h's do for my stag party.
It would be like spa day, relaxing, go to a vineyard.
And then the strippers.
No, I don't want strippers.
Yeah, but when's the stripper?
Someone just texted my brother's doing a spa weekend for his stag do.
I love that.
Dude, that would be amazing.
We could just go to Onsen.
Just relax.
We could just do Onsen.
Oh, let's. Oh, my God. Everyone's could just go to Onsen. Just relax. We could just do Onsen. Oh, let's.
Oh, my God.
Why do we wait?
Everyone's going to have such nice toes.
Why do we wait for a stag do to have a lovely weekend with our dudes?
Should we do an Onsen spa weekend?
I love that idea.
Okay.
Oh, my God.
We should.
All three of us.
No.
This is a stag do.
Sorry.
It's guys only.
It's stags.
Yeah, but I'm like one of the boys.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
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Oh, no, please.
No, please, Vaughan. Did you have an unusual
hens or stag do? An unusual
stags or hens do because there is
a bride who went out the night
before, home at 3am, 9am,
was on the start line of a marathon, came third. Not my idea
of a hens do, but to each their own. We just mentioned a lad's sort of
a spa package for a stags do and then we're like, why are
we waiting? There have been calls on the text machine for Fletch and Vaughn's Ultimate Dude Spa Weekend
where we organise it and people pay to come along. Where we just kind of like
one of those managed travel packages.
Yes.
Where, you know, they take...
But guys, yeah.
There's guys out there just so desperate for a lovely relaxing spa weekend,
but their partner's always like,
I've got to come.
I've got to come.
I've got to come.
Well, you're actually part of the problem,
so you actually need to stay behind and I need to relax with some dudes.
Yeah, we're relaxing.
This is going to be a stress-free environment.
But Hayley's coming.
But if it's just for the lads, no, if it's just for the lads, I'm coming, but be a stress-free environment. But Hayley's coming.
If it's just for the lads, I'm coming,
but I'll be the stripper.
That makes so much sense.
Or you've got to dress up like a man.
Have I got a dodgy connection in Melbourne?
Is that not coming through?
Guys, you throw the stags thing,
and I'll be the stripper, so I can come.
We're not going to have strippers.
We're going to have strippers.
I find strippers stressful.
They're calling it on the text machine.
They're calling for the Vibes and Gumption Spa Weekend.
The Vibes and Gumption Spa Weekend.
It's going to be a great weekend.
The Vibes and Gumption Tour.
More guys need to do spa weekends for their stag do's.
Now, Taylor, did you have an unusual hen's do?
I did, actually. What did you have an unusual hen stew?
I did, actually.
What did you do?
I wanted to do all of the fun stuff that the boys normally get to do.
And so my besties planned a lads by day, ladies by night.
I love that.
It wasn't as adventurous as I was thinking because we still had to cater to like a group of girls, but we dressed up as guys, largely based around my husband.
So I like drew on a beard and I wore a pair of his shorts and a t-shirt that said fishing
makes me happy and like a Bunnings hat.
And then we
went and played laser tag, we had burgers
and beers for lunch,
we did an escape room at
the end and then we
went back to the accommodation, had some chill
time, had some drinks, had some snacks
and got dressed up and
went out for a lovely dinner. How much of that
chill time was your friend scrubbing
the vivid off your face that was your friend scrubbing the Vivid off your face
that was your beard?
Well, it was all makeup, so it was very easy to do.
Oh, okay, good.
I was able to do that myself.
So I would have used Vivid.
While we were chilling, they set up decorations and photos,
and yeah, it was lovely.
I like that.
I like that.
That's cool.
Yeah, and my husband actually wanted to do,
because we were talking about it, he's like,
I want to go to the vineyard and relax like you guys get to.
Yeah, I think we're too in the gender norms when it comes to stag and hens do's, aren't
we?
Totally agree.
We need to just do what makes us happy.
Exactly.
And it was great.
It was so much fun.
Okay.
Taylor, brilliant.
Thank you.
Rachel, did you have an unusual stag do or hens do?
Yes, Mana and festival.
Long-time listener, first-time caller.
I can feel it.
I reached for the bell.
Welcome to the show, Rachel.
So I started off quite civil, just the normal nibbles, champagne,
a few topless waiters, men, at the venue.
And then we proceeded to go to Chacapuna
and ended up partying with a group of stags.
We proceeded to skiddy dip on the beach.
And then the next day,
we all jumped off the Harbour Bridge together in tutus.
Wait, so the stag do that you met up with
wasn't the stag do of the person getting married?
No.
No, they were complete randoms. Complete randoms who were also Stag do that you met up with wasn't the stag do of the person getting married? No.
No, they were complete random.
Complete random.
Wow. Oh, my God.
Okay.
And then you skinny dipped with the strange men.
Say that again?
And then you skinny dipped with the strange men.
What's wrong with skinny dipping with strange men?
Yeah, well, you know, late 20s, it's quite acceptable to do.
That's horrible.
I don't know if I'd do it, you know. Now? Oh, it's quite acceptable to do. Really cool to do it now if I do it, you know.
Now?
Oh, Rachel, I won't be told at any age I can't skin a dog. Some people are very anti the stags and hens meeting up,
but it's okay when it's not your...
Is it?
It seems worse if you ask me.
I'd say it's completely fine, provided that there's no...
Hanky-panky, okay.
And there was no hanky-panky between anybody on that?
No, absolutely not.
Even like the single gals and the single boys didn't get up to any hankies or pankies?
What about one panky?
Not that I could see.
There was looking, but that's about it.
I would at least, I'd hanky.
Maybe wouldn't I have panky, but I'd hanky.
Was there insinuated hanky?
Or maybe possible panky?
Well, it is a bit blurry, the mind.
There you go.
There was a sprinkler hanky.
I feel like we've lost a panky in there somewhere.
We've forgotten about a panky.
Thank you, Rachel.
Some messages in.
Wasn't mine, but had a skiing bike run race,
and there was a hens there that was doing it at the same time.
They were dressed as cows.
Okay.
So that's an unusual hen's do.
My husband went to the zoo for his stag do.
His best man lives in Melbourne, so he went over there,
and they asked him what he wanted to do, and he said,
all I want to do is go and see the bear at the zoo and get some good dim sum.
And so his stag do was exactly what he wanted.
See, that's great.
Oh, my God.
How cool would that be to get an invitation to that?
We're like, we're going to do a bit of yum cha.
Yeah.
And we're going to do some beer.
Yep.
We're going to go to the zoo for one specific beer.
We did steer riding at my stag do.
A former mate, sorry, a farmer mate and a rodeo mate made a makeshift pen at his farm
in his driveway that was half gravel, half grass.
Quite a bit of bleeding by the end of that.
It admits you a rodeo?
A steer is a bull with its nuts knocked off.
Oh no.
Had a stag do the weekend
before my wedding.
That's never been a stag story.
What can go wrong?
What can go wrong?
Best man played a game of fire soccer.
Where you douse a bull
made of hessian and chicken wire
and kerosene
and we kicked it around.
I ended up with a football-shaped burn
on my stomach
and my father-in-law
ended up in hospital after a hot wire nearly took his eye out.
What?
God save.
That is wild.
My hen's weekend, I took my girls hunting.
Most of them have never shot a gun, let alone skinned or gutted an animal.
Now most of them are quite keen on hunting.
Really?
Okay.
Oh.
Yeah.
Because that's quite a, often the stags do, maybe the odd hens do,
we do the, what do they call it when you're, clay bird.
Clay bird shooting.
That's fun.
That's a good activity.
That's heaps of fun.
But no, these were shooting actual real life animals.
Actual real life animals.
Well, there you go.
Maybe some ideas for your next stag or hens.
Yeah.
That's a little.
Go on.
You know, not usual.
Yeah.
But left field.
And we'll organise our spa weekend tour
I think this could be
Vibe and gumption spa tour
We'll go to all the best spas
I'll start practising my stripping
Nah
I reckon don't
I reckon don't, no
Did that come through?
Yeah
We're losing her
We're losing her in Melbourne
Hello, hello
Look, I'm taking off my jump
Play
ZM's Fletch, Bourne and Hayley
Fact of the day Day, day, day, day, day.
It's Teeth Week at Fact of the Day,
and today I'd like to talk about wisdom teeth.
Oh, yeah?
You've had yours removed, have you?
Three.
Three out of four.
Is one still in there?
I think so.
And it didn't cause any trouble?
Nah.
Okay.
Hayley, have you had yours out?
I'm two out of four on one side.
That's why I walk with a slight limp.
Yeah, because of the weight, extra weight.
I've always thought you're a little off kilter.
Yeah.
And that'll be why.
It's the teeth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've got all four of mine.
No problems. Don't want to break. The sky egg. It wasn't a competition. It wasn't a competition. And that'll be why. It's the teeth. Yeah. I've got all four of mine, no problems.
Don't want to brag. It wasn't a competition.
It wasn't a competition. Don't want to brag.
Did you know, though, that
about 35% of people born without
one or more of the wisdom teeth?
So, you might have
two out and you might have one, but the other
one just didn't turn up. That's a possibility.
But certain indigenous
Mexican groups have no wisdom teeth at all.
Interesting.
Isn't that fascinating?
Mexican groups,
especially the Zapotec and the Mixtec people,
it's quite common for them to be missing
their wisdom teeth entirely.
Believed it's related to a specific gene
called PAX9.
Right.
And it may or may not have,
it's an evolutionary adaption.
These are left over.
The wisdom teeth is a leftover
from when we were hunting together.
Because of all the corn chips.
Is it all the corn chips?
It's the corn chips.
I don't need them.
Okay.
Because it's just another place
for a corn chip to get stuck.
Yeah.
So they got rid of them.
Now we've evolved away from them
as we've got more into farming
rather than hunting and gathering.
Okay.
We were hunters and gatherers.
We chewed a lot more so we needed the third set of molars.
Yeah.
So they were more vital, but as we go to softer food.
Yeah.
They didn't have jelly back in the day.
So if they did.
Really missed out on.
Oh, those poor bastards, eh?
A life without jelly.
Yeah, and they didn't have like real soft flatbreads.
Like your tortillas.
Yeah, yum.
Your naans.
I mean, we can all agree the one thing that every culture got right
was their contribution towards soft breads.
The bread, yeah.
The soft breads.
Yeah, yeah, yum.
Your tortillas, for example.
So whilst indigenous Mexican groups don't get their wisdom teeth
more than the average,
Aboriginal Australians get them more often than not
and don't have a problem with them.
They'll just pop up right in there.
Because of the genetic trait of Aboriginal Australians,
they have a slightly longer jawbone.
Okay.
So there's fewer impactions.
You know, that's the big thing with the wisdom tooth,
there's not the room, right?
It starts smashing into the molar behind it.
Yeah, that's why you've got to get them taken out.
Yeah.
So if you're an Aboriginal Australian,
you're far less likely
to need anything
to do with wisdom teeth
because they'll just pop up
and be problem free.
Amazing.
Isn't that good?
Yeah.
And you know why?
No corn chips.
Yeah.
Again, it's the corn chips.
No corn chips.
It was the corn chips.
Always the corn chips.
I'm actually in Australia now and they don't have corn chips.
Even now they don't have corn chips.
Yeah.
After all these years, they just know it's a teeth thing.
No corn chips.
No corn chips.
No corn chips.
Yeah.
So today's fact of the day is wisdom teeth,
different situation for different cultures around the world.
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
So yesterday, if you're just joining us,
I'm in Melbourne at the moment doing my show for the Comedy Fest.
And yesterday I had a podcast.
I was doing an interview and I had to catch an Uber quite far out.
I've never been to this part of Melbourne before.
And I got a message as I was in the Uber already that they were running behind.
And I was like, well, I'm already kind of nearly there.
I don't want to pester them.
So I got out of my Uber near the studio.
Yep.
And I spotted a park bench.
And I thought, you know what?
I could sit there quietly and just sort of absorb the Melbourne surroundings.
Okay.
So I go to this bench.
I sit down.
And I think I'm just like playing on my phone.
So when I say absorb nature in the surround,
I'm on Instagram.
You're not looking at any nature at all.
No, no, no, not at all.
So I'm sitting there, I'm playing on my phone,
and then I feel a presence near me.
Okay.
And it's by a bin on the corner of the street.
I sort of look, and I see an unhomed
gentleman who is
just going about his day and, you know, having
a little rummage in the bin. And I thought, okay, that's
you know, that's great. Good for
you. But I noticed
he has this kind of basket
with a handle and
it's all kind of wrapped up
and I was like, well, okay,
interesting. I go about my business.
You know, I've got Instagram reels to watch.
I've got nature to absorb.
Yeah.
But then I start to, he takes off his top.
So he's now shirtless.
He takes off his top.
Okay.
And he kind of puts it over the basket
and is kind of trying to like cradle something within the T-shirt.
He's trying to really like pick it up like this.
I was like, what is he doing?
And I didn't want to stare.
So I'm doing that sort of occasional look.
What's he up to here?
And she's shirtless and he's cradling this thing.
And then I hear a little squeak.
And I was like, what is in that basket?
And he picks it up and he's carrying it like
it is like gentle,
like a really delicate thing.
He's picking it up. I swear, I hear
a squeak and it
hits me in my brain.
That's, I think he's got a kitten
and I think he's about to put it in the bin.
Now, you know
that Mike, well, I've got a rubbish bag
cat, you know, he was dropped off to a rescue place and in a bin, I've got a rubbish bag cat, you know.
He was dropped off to a rescue place in a bin.
I also have a rubbish bag cat.
Fletch, do you want to weigh in on what kind of bag your cat came in?
A Louis Vuitton bag?
No, it was a carrier cage.
Your cat came in a Birkin.
Yeah, it was a Birkin.
It was a Birkin cat.
It was a Birkin.
It was a Birkin.
Yeah.
Only the best of Murray. Exactly. So I start to panic, right? I was like, oh, my God,. It was a Birkin cat. Yeah, it was a Birkin cat. It was a Birkin. It was a Birkin. Yeah. Only the best of Murray.
Exactly.
So I start to panic.
I was like, oh my God, I can't believe this is happening.
And I've got to go to this podcast thing now.
I've given them enough leeway.
I think I'm just going to have to cancel that.
I'm going to have to intervene.
I'm going to have to go in.
I'm going to have to get this kitten.
And then I'm going to have to work out where the local rescue place is.
This is my whole day now has turned around.
And I just think this is abhorrent.
I just think it's so bad. So I text my friend and I go, oh my God, I can't believe this. This is happening whole day now has turned around. And I just think this is abhorrent. I just think it's so bad.
So I text my friend and I go,
oh my God, I can't believe this.
This is happening right now.
What shall I do?
Just seeking some advice, some encouragement.
And they were like, stop him.
You've got to stop him.
Think of the cat.
And I did.
I got up off my seat.
I was so nervous.
Got up off my seat and I said, excuse me, sir.
You better not be putting that cat into that bin.
And he looks at me.
He was completely shocked.
Shocked and shirtless, remember?
Shocked and shirtless.
He looks at me and he was like, I'll do with it whatever I want.
And I was like, what?
I know.
He goes, he chucks this thing in the bin, like, boof, like this.
And I go, like this.
And he runs off.
And I was like, that's it.
But I was like, cat first.
Cat first before I attack this man with my
mortal combat yeah so I went cat first
I reach my hands into this
really full grotty Melbourne street
rubbish bin and I pick up the bundle
and I unwrap it expecting
this cute little kitten that was obviously
going to take my heart and have to put it through quarantine to bring it
back to New Zealand yeah it was
it was like it was
it was a stuffed cat-like toy.
With a squeaker in it.
It was just a stuffed sort of bad-looking cat toy that squeaked.
Right.
But he was carrying it like it was a cat.
Oh, yeah.
He may have believed it was.
He may have believed it was. He may have believed it was.
But like, I've got to tell you, the rescue mission,
like how I felt picking this thing up and being like,
I've saved its life.
I'm its mother.
And it was just like, meh.
Just a stupid.
And where's this man by now?
Has he run away?
He's hoofed.
Dude, he's far up the street.
He's gone.
Probably off to drop off the next one.
He had a basket of them.
Oh, it was the most bizarre reaction.
Distributing these old cat toys into bins around.
Do you think he was a bit like not all there?
Do you think he thought that they were his?
Oh, he definitely wasn't all there.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, I just think he was maybe, it felt like performance art maybe.
And I just really, and I was also really looking forward to like arriving at the podcast being like,
you're not going to believe what I just did.
I stopped to cry.
Yeah.
But I suppose I sort of didn't.
Also, the way I think about all of these things now is you're probably going to be on someone's TikTok.
Like this was all set up with hidden cameras.
Yeah, that's good.
Cool.
And it's going to be like crazy lady stops, you know.
No, I think if it was all set up for TikTok,
then I've actually done the right thing.
Will she say anything?
Oh, we've noticed she's noticed I'm putting the thing in the bin.
Well, I think I did the right thing regardless.
And you know what?
I mean, I did abandon the software in the bin.
It was trash.
Right.
Okay, so you didn't save anything.
No saving.
So did I stop a crime?
I'm kind of. Did I save anything? Not. Z So did I stop a crime? Kind of.
Did I save anything?
Not.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
What makes people good in bed?
A study.
Okay.
Has found what people like, what makes them good.
And it's not Hayley's giant bang behind her.
That's where you say hello, I think, Georgia.
Well, hello.
Well, I don't know, you know.
Is it worth it? She just paused. Georgia doesn't even look at, I think, Georgia. Oh, hello. Well, I don't know. You know, is it worth it?
She just paused. Georgia doesn't even look
at Fletch. You missed the natural in.
Oh, okay. Don't call me out for things.
Don't pawn your natural
misses on me. Oh, you're a natural. You missed
the natural in. I will miss it every now
and then in the natural out. A study has
looked at what makes people good
in the bedroom. Yeah. We'll dance around this,
you know, in case there are little ears. Yeah, we will. Dancing around is actually one of the things that makes you good in the bedroom. Yeah. We'll dance around this, you know, in case there are a little ears.
Yeah, we will.
Dancing around is actually one of the things
that makes you good in the bedroom.
Is it?
Naked.
No, it's not.
With a naked dance around.
No, it's not.
Okay.
But people want to see a study like this, right,
and be like, hell yeah, man.
I'm about to get some hot tips.
They're going to break it down in moves for me.
Well, there's nine points.
Okay.
One, confidence and communication
90% of women
value a man
who can take the lead
but also listens
and responds
to their preferences
yes yes yes
and
and
reacting to their
feedback
of verbal
and non-verbal
yes yes yes
I'm gonna need
I'm gonna need
yep
I'm gonna need
the verbal feedback
I can't read mine
so I don't know
I think the look on the face will give you that.
Oh, you're saying the look on the face.
Right, right.
Point two.
Creativity and variety.
86% of women appreciate new positions and switching up the rhythm.
Okay.
What was that?
I've got a message.
It's the Garmin.
Don't start with me.
What do you mean?
Don't you start with me. It's found some fish. Guys, it's the vibration. No, she's within. It's the Garmin. Don't start with me. What do you mean? Don't you start with me.
It's found some fish.
Guys, it's the vibration.
No, she's within 100 metres of the goal pole.
George, his watch just went.
It got excited when you said be creative.
God, that's really aggressive.
I'm sorry, your watch is so aggressive, George.
Pipe down, you lot.
Has this filth talked your heart rate up?
And it's like, are you having a cardiac episode?
I feel like having a Garmin watch, you're part of a cult, eh?
It's very cult-y.
Yeah, that was the buzz.
They should all need to report to the temple.
Oh my God, it won't stop vibrating.
What are you doing to me?
I know.
Calm down.
Take a breath, Georgia.
That's some feedback for you, number one.
Point three, physical fitness in the form of stamina,
90% want energy and endurance, not necessarily a sculpted body.
Oh yeah, no, no, no.
So he skipped the gym today then?
Nah.
Yeah, go on.
And most don't mind how fast it finishes
as long as he stays engaged afterwards.
And what, sticks around and finishes his aforementioned task.
Gotcha.
Fourth point, talk dirty in moderation.
74% prefer simple respectful dirty talk.
Smashing tits, love.
Well, do we want
to be told
that?
That was simple and respectful dirty talk.
It worked for me.
I'm going to say it worked for me.
It seems like you're trying to be
posh about them. Well, that was respectful.
My idea of being respectful is being posh.
53% dislike over-the-top or crude comments.
Okay.
So you want to run that beforehand.
Like that one you previously just said.
No, that was respectful dirty talk.
It felt over-the-top.
Okay.
Foreplay is 0.5.
Okay.
86% of women say it's crucial.
Don't skip it.
Even simple things like a smoochy warm-up matters.
Okay.
Yes, smoochy warm-up.
Yeah.
Six, say there's...
I want to say when I've read this study previously
and then you started, Vaughan, by saying,
I've got nine points as I reckon.
I was like, I reckon don't read them all out.
Yeah, because some of them are a bit risque.
Skip that one.
Skip that one. Would you say out of all of them,
the biggest one would be the confidence one?
Totally.
Confidence and communication?
And communication, yeah.
So hot.
And actually, we've had Morgan in studio, right?
Morgan Penn, sexologist.
She always says communication is like the biggest thing.
And aftercare is the other big one.
Cuddling and emotional presence post-sex is meaningful
for the majority of participants.
Yeah, it's like Fletch is someone who doesn't love to cuddle.
I love cuddles.
You need to step up there.
I love cuddles.
Don't say I don't love cuddles.
I love cuddles.
You don't cuddle me.
Yeah, I don't want your hugs.
You're always wanting like, you're like, see ya,
I'm going to the cafe, let's have a hug.
I'm like, no, you get a hug pre and post holiday.
I'll miss you while I'm getting coffee.
No, we do hugs like twice a year.
That's enough for you.
That's enough.
Okay, just a small digression before we finish the perfect show that critics are saying.
Five stars.
Are saying five stars.
Yeah.
I believe I read the words tour de force.
Yeah, I've got a little trick that you'll see online soon.
The words you read were Tour de France.
It was a cycle race.
Yeah.
No, I think they said Tour de Force.
I went to an adult fun toy factory yesterday where they,
like the distribution centre, and I've been showing the boys.
I went home,
I had to catch a train in Melbourne with two huge bags of goodies.
Wow, the next season of Sex, Not Life, the podcast is going to be wild.
Yeah, it is.
Let's just say.
Two bags of goodies.
Yeah, yeah, look, I can't bring both of them home.
It's far too much.
It's far too much.
Yeah, hard to explain to customs.
I might scatter them throughout the streets of Melbourne.
Why don't you put a stall up on the streets of Melbourne
and sell these bad boys?
I could be a toy merchant.
You actually could.
Or use them as props in your comedy show.
Yeah, and just chuck them out like a lolly scramble.
Like a prize.
Yeah, a prize.
Yeah, you could put them under seats.
Under seats and be like, guess what?
It's Oprah night. Everybody check under your seats. Some, you could put them under seats. Under seats and be like, guess what? It's Oprah night.
Everybody check under your seats.
Some of you are getting some stuff.
Yeah.
Maybe not the ones you've opened.
Maybe the ones that are still wrapped up.
Yeah, not that one you showed us before.
It's a hygiene issue.
That was scary.
Georgia and her fancy watch, her garment, are up next.
Oh, my gosh.
You just called it fancy.
Sweetie, do it like.
She can't do sarcasm. Remember, like. She can't do sarcasm.
Remember guys, she can't do sarcasm.
Is that the podcast done?
Because I'm blasting for a poos.
Blasting for a poos.
Jesus.
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