ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - April 10th, 2025

Episode Date: April 9, 2025

On todays episode of Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod; The Chase is coming to NZ Newest influencer platform - Linkedin? Is Mr G making a comeback Surprise Saturday trend Top 6 - New names for H...ill House Cinnabun When did the flat account go bad? SLP - How long should a show be spoil free? Bad News Brad Hayley got caught by the cleaner Did you have an unusual hens-do Fact of the day Hayley stopped a heinous crime What actually makes you good in bed? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 For a few years in the 1970s, the Mr. Asia syndicate made millions. Heroin creates its own market. It acts like a form of plague. Until jealousy, betrayal and murder brought it all crashing down. Clark would have threatened him. Go and kill him. If you don't, I'm going to kill you and your wife and your son. This is Mr. Asia, A Forgotten History. All episodes now available on iHeartRadio, Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your son. This is Mr. Asia, a forgotten history. All episodes now available on iHeartRadio, Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. From the ZM Podcast Network, this is Fletch Vaughan and Hayley's Big Pod. Thanks to Animates, making happy happen for pets. ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Thank you, Bryn. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Two minutes past six. Hayley joining us from her Melbourne studio in her apartment. G'day, guys. You're doing the... I've completely transformed into a local. Into an Aussie. I'm just looking in the background there. Have you got a filter on your tap?
Starting point is 00:01:03 One of those special... Or is it just a tap? It's just a tap. You remember in the 90s when everybody's kitchen sink had the tap that you used for filling up the door, but the little filtered guy on the side? Oh, no, that was for rich people. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:15 We didn't have one of those, no. If your friend had a filtered tap, you were like, ooh la la. No, it's just got a skinny handle on the tap. Oh, gotcha, gotcha. All right, okay. Well, Hayley broadcasting from Melbourne this morning. the top of the tap. Gotcha. All right. Okay. Well, Hayley broadcasting from Melbourne this morning. Guess she's not doing as well.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Guess she's not doing as well as we thought she was financially. I would have thought she would have been in a five-star hotel, but no. Maybe next year, guys. She would have been staying at the Melbourne White Lotus. Yeah. No, she's in a, like, it looks like a quest or something. Can you not start the show like this? What are you guys always doing?
Starting point is 00:01:47 Oh my God, are you in a service department? I am. I actually love a service department because you get a kitchen. You get a kitchen. You do get a kitchen. And then you can make your own breakfast. But what exactly is serviced about it? So they come and they give you towels.
Starting point is 00:02:05 They give you towels but they won but that's not their job. They give you towels, but they won't do your dishes. I've never stayed long enough to require new towels. Okay. The top six is coming up. A legal battle. Yes. A cease and desist.
Starting point is 00:02:17 There's a place called Cinnabon that is telling people they can't call things Cinnabons. Cinnabons. Cinnabons. Cinnabons. Even though they are a cinnamon bun. So, yeah, a well-known Auckland cafe is going to have to change up their cinnamon bun. They've made a post about it. We'll get into the news soon, but you've got some ideas to help them get out of this. I'm a brainstorming guy.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Pickles on a cinnamon bun. Give it a go. Give it a go. Try it out. The top six new names for the cinnamon bun. I'll give it a go. Give it a go. Try it out. The top six new names for the cinnamon bun. Yeah. Brainstorming. That aren't cinnabuns.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Just, it's got to be different enough to avoid illegal. Yeah. Will be today's top six. Next on the show, Vaughan, your time has come. Well, according to people on Instagram who have been messaging me saying, you simply must, I believe. But I'm not paying for my opportunity to win money. It seems Matt will tell you exactly what is happening next.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Play ZM's Fleshborn and Hayley. Did you know that according to Nelson figures, the people that survey TV, who's watching what, two out of three Kiwis watched The Chase at some stage last year. Wow. Oh, yeah. God.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I just think it's the best. I just love it so much. It's a great show. It's got it all. Because if you're wanting to watch the news, you're going to tune in even if you get the last five or ten minutes of The Chase. Yeah. So you're always going to see it every now and again.
Starting point is 00:03:39 That was always my experience with The Chase, the last quarter of an hour. So I didn't know how it got there. But then when I started watching the whole thing, I was oh there's a it's a whole situation yeah so it makes sense then that a new zealand chase will be filmed but here's the problem it's only four episodes so that means only 16 people in total will be able to be on it yeah because teams are four yeah 16 they're going to film it in australia off the back of when they do the next season of the chase austral Okay. So they'll just, I don't know, change up the words.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Bung us on the end. Yeah, okay. I don't know who's hosting it, whether or not it's going to be Bradley Walsh or the Australian guy that does the Australian chase. You'd want Bradley. You'd want Bradley. Maybe they'll get him over just for like one day's filming. And they're only bringing one of the chasers. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:23 The governess, Anne. Right. She's the one that... Oh, we like her, though. She's good. They're bringing the best. They don't want to pay out. Because isn't she... Her and Jenny are the best.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Classic New Zealand. We don't want to pay. Yeah, yeah. We don't want anyone winning. Bring the best one down. Who's the best at it? So there's going to be, yeah, four episodes. But you have to pay your own way there.
Starting point is 00:04:45 So you can apply to be on... you can apply to be on the chase. If you get accepted, you've got to find your own way to Sydney. Why is everything we do so budget? I know, it's so embarrassing. Like news is going to get out. This is going to go to the UK and they're going to be like, how shameful.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I mean, I guess maybe where they film it in the UK, contestants have to get to London. No, I've heard there was a behind the scenes. If you're not in London, they'll put you up. Oh, really? Okay, I guess maybe where they film it in the UK, contestants have to get to London. No, I've heard there was a behind the scenes. If you're not in London, they'll put you up. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Well, I mean, it's huge over there, isn't it? It's one of the biggest TV shows in the world.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I mean, it's one of the biggest shows in New Zealand and it's not even made here or, you know, filmed here. Why are we doing this? And why only four episodes? Maybe they're testing the water. Testing it. Because I remember, I think I've mentioned this before definitely to you two
Starting point is 00:05:26 about talking to a TVNZ exec years ago and being like we've got to have the chase the New Zealand version they were like why because the British version does so well like we don't need our version way less to make
Starting point is 00:05:37 because you don't have to pay the prize money but I think keywords will tune in though if it's a special New Zealand version yeah 100% because we all think we can do it we all think oh yeah I could do it well if you can But I think keywords will tune in though if it's a special New Zealand version. Yeah. 100%. Because we all think we can do it. Yeah. We all think, oh yeah, I could do it.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Well, if you can. Aaron definitely does. Yeah, everybody does. Yeah, I got lots of people messaging me yesterday being like, this is your chance to prove yourself. And I was like, no. You always talk about game. Is there a Chase board game? Yep, we've got it.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Is there like, you know, an app or something? There's a Chase board game. You've got the Chase board game? Yeah, I got it for my 40th here. We went and did like the 40 gifts for my 40th and that was one of them, yeah. Okay. The Chase board game.
Starting point is 00:06:11 The kids are always like, let's play the Chase and they just get obliterated by dad every time. Well, if you want to sign up for the Chase, you've got to book your own flights. Flights and accommodation. I've just found Anacom. Is it Melbourne or Sydney? They're filming in Sydney.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Yeah, Sydney. Filming in Sydney. Yeah. Okay. But wait, they'll tell you that you've been accepted before. You've got to book your flights after, right? Like, don't book them now if you haven't been accepted. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I know, but there's a sale on at the moment. So are you better to book now? If you said, I've already got my flights and accommodation, that would surely be a big tick in their book. Yeah, like you're confident. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to have to have all that banter, though,
Starting point is 00:06:49 that they give you before the show. Like, all right, Gary, you're into kites, are you? Yeah. Yes, I love kites. Full moon. What is it you love so much about kites, Gary? The closest a man will ever get to being a bird, I suppose. Bradley?
Starting point is 00:07:05 All right, Gary, good luck. Thank you. All right, Gary. Great banter there, Gary. Blow them out of the water with some weird shit right from the start and I'll let you just get straight to the questions. So I don't have a LinkedIn profile, but 2.3 million Kiwis do. You've got LinkedIn, Vaughan, but definitely as a joke.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah. That last post, do you remember, was it on a podcast we talked about? How I was going to use ChatGP to write a really stereotypical LinkedIn post. And then I was like, more, hype it up, more, more. I put it up, it got so many likes. And it was all just fake. It was so insane, like over the top nonsense. I'll see if likes. And it was all just fake. It was so insane. Like over the top nonsense.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I'll see if I can find it for a quick read. I've never had a profile or been on LinkedIn, but it doesn't look like I enjoy it. Breaking news. Because you never really had a proper job. No. No. This is why it's so much fun for me.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Because when I lose this job, you'll never see me again. I'll be in the bush. Breaking news. I'm not just a leader. I'm a force of nature in this industry. That's right. And it's got like emojis all through it. I don see me again. I'll be in the bush. Breaking news, I'm not just a leader, I'm a force of nature in this industry and it's got like emojis all through it.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I don't follow trends, I create them. Every day I wake up with one goal, dominate, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. All this cool stuff. Do you get likes?
Starting point is 00:08:15 How many likes do you get? 100 likes. Oh yeah. 15 comments. What do the comments say? I hope people know I was joking. I smell an NFT coming. That's good stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I smell an NFT coming. That's good
Starting point is 00:08:26 stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you're launching your crypto, bro. But a lot of people post like, I don't know, inspiring. Oh, dude, it's just this kind of theme. Can I say circle jerk on the radio? I don't know if you can. I'd say a business circle jerk. And a lot of people get poached and offer
Starting point is 00:08:41 jobs because of like what they post on their profile. Yeah, totally. And in general, the perception of LinkedIn is like it's a bit cringe because it's such a brag fest. Like actually the thing that Vaughn's posted is not that obscure on a website like that. It's just everyone's there to brag. And as Kiwis, we hate that, right? So, you know, that 2.3 million Kiwis have LinkedIn profiles, the average demographic being 25 to 34, which is like, that's your prime influencer target, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:12 For social media influencers. And that is why they're flocking to LinkedIn as well as your TikTok and your Instagram. They're flocking to LinkedIn to kind of like promote themselves to great effect. So, one New Zealand, I hate to call him an influencer because he actually does such amazing stuff, but Dave Lutelli, he, you know, he does a lot of stuff for the community and he was saying like social media, your usual social medias, he was like struggling to get cut through and struggling to actually get people to engage with him and his stuff to get, you know, food and donations.
Starting point is 00:09:45 And then he was like, I'm going to hit up LinkedIn because he's like, LinkedIn is social media, but for rich people. And I was like, that's a great description, Dave. And he said the moment that he started focusing his social media kind of content towards LinkedIn, he started getting high profile donors. He started getting like donations.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Because they can donate to him and then they can be like, guys, I did a selfless thing. I donated to charity. Let me tell you all about it. In turn, making it completely selfish, not selfless. But it works for him because he doesn't care
Starting point is 00:10:14 where the money's coming from as long as it's like not the Nazis. But are the influencers like, are they doing their teeth whitening and stuff on LinkedIn as well? Or is it just... Yeah, they kind of are. But they pitch it like a LinkedIn post
Starting point is 00:10:27 for the teeth whitening thing. Like I recently had this grand experience with a local business where I got to meet with other like-minded people, like that sort of shit rather than just being like, hashtag gifted, look how pearly whites are. Yeah, so they're saying like, rather than just using it as like a recruitment thing, which is kind of how it
Starting point is 00:10:46 started, like, hey, what are you good at? And maybe you'd be good for this job. They're using it to sort of promote personal branding, which is what influencing is, which is like, here's what I like and here's what I stand for. And people are just saying like, it's the new hot thing. It's not cringe. Okay. LinkedIn's
Starting point is 00:11:02 hot. Well, you better get a profile. You can post about your comedy show. Someone's hot. Well, you better get a profile. You can post about your comedy show. What if someone's already got my profile name? What? What if someone's already got my name? Well, get on there and get it. You've just told everybody that you don't have one and your profile name's up for grabs
Starting point is 00:11:15 and now you're sitting on your hands? Come on. There's a world of people to be influenced out there. They're going to make me look like a doodle on it. Hayley, you miss every shot you don't take. That's something that you'd all see here on LinkedIn as well. And I put it as my status right now. Iconic comebacks. Yeah. I saw one of them last night and then when you guys mentioned it before the show, I was like,
Starting point is 00:11:39 that wasn't a dream. I thought I dreamt it. But then looking back on it, what a silly dream it would have been. Chris Lilley. Oh, gosh. Chris Lilley, who I guess last time we saw kind of was. Lunatics was his last Netflix show. Yeah. Where it was a bit of brown face.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Like it didn't go down super smooth. No. Well, the times have changed. Yeah. I mean, Summer Heights High was peak, right? What? Now, what year was Summer Heights High? I was trying to work out the year. It was so long ago.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Was it 2007? Yeah, probably. Because we were in Melbourne in 2008 and I bought the DVDs. Summer Heights High was 2007. Wow. Yeah, because 2007 was my last year of high school and we used to always reference Pocky. Pocky Miss. Pocky Miss.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Pocky Miss. Yeah, that's right. So many iconic characters and sketches over the years. Some of which have not aged well. But he posted on his Instagram a photo of a chair. It was a video. It was a video of different aspects of his probably most famous character, Mr. G. Oh, Jemay might be the most famous character.
Starting point is 00:12:53 I'd say Jemay. Jemay would be my favourite. But Mr. G was so good. No, Mr. G's my favourite. So good. Well, yeah, so that's all he's posted. Like, you could see someone dancing a Swiss ball, rolls past, and everyone's like, it's Mr. G. It's Mr. G.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Mr. G is coming back. Mum, mum. I just, yeah, Mr. G's great. So good. I mean, Chris Lilley's not a homosexual, is he? He's, that would be the most problematic part of it. Isn't he? I think Chris, is he? Do you know he's 50 now?
Starting point is 00:13:27 Yeah, that doesn't surprise me He's got a weird child face though Does have a weird child face Does have a weird child face So, obviously 2023, he had a rare outing with Long Term Girlfriend Yeah
Starting point is 00:13:41 I wasn't quite sure of his preferences I love that I'm just being like he's not gay he shouldn't play a gay character he's literally played an Asian woman a black rapper a black South African lady so he's been doing the odd podcast thing and also
Starting point is 00:13:59 like an amateur nature documentary like getting out there. But yeah, apparently he is making a comeback, it seems. Mr. G. Oh, it's definitely because if you go on his profile now, he's put three videos up and they're all slightly different, one of which is definitely it's Mr. G's uniform with a tie
Starting point is 00:14:20 and his crosshands on his lap. So it's Mr. G. Now, we said there were two comebacks. See, I would say that's a comeback. Yes. Lorde, though, has been teasing music. It seems like bad to say comeback, doesn't it? Well, she's had a little bit of a Charlie XCX song, but prior to that.
Starting point is 00:14:39 She's been away for so long, hasn't she? It's been a little bit of a break. She did the classic old social media clear. Oh, yep. She deletes all the pictures and everything, and then there's like a teaser for some new music. Since I was 17, I gave you everything. Now we wake from a dream.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Well, baby, what was that? Okay. Pointed lyrics, wasn't it? What was that? Okay, wow. Okay. Pointed lyrics, wasn't it? Okay, wow. Lordy Lord. Because the last album, Solar Power, is it what it's called, Solar Power? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I really liked it. But some people were just like, it was a bit like hippy-dippy. No, I really liked it. Yeah. Wow, that sounds... I like Greenlight Lord. Yeah. That's my Lord. That sounds more like it, doesn't it? That's my Lord. Yeah. Wow, that sounds... I like Greenlight Lord. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:26 That's my Lord. That sounds more like it, doesn't it? That's my Lord. Yeah, yeah. That's my Lord. That's my Lord and Saviour. So she's teased a new song, but we don't know about a new album,
Starting point is 00:15:38 but I mean, you'd assume it's imminent. It's all mysterious. Mysterious. Very mysterious. Mr. G and Lord. Mr. G and Lord. Just what we need in 2025. I feel like we do need a little bit of that. That was a natural out, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:15:50 It was a natural out. It was a natural out. Yeah, I thought that was a natural out. You missed it. Wow. Fletch, you missed it. It's just surprising when Vaughn gives a natural out. I would like, I don't know if there's any like real train spotters that listen to the show.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Because I love stats. I need an ongoing tally of who's missed the most natural outs. Because I feel like I really wore it there, but my natural outs have been on fire since. I don't know if they have.
Starting point is 00:16:12 You've missed a couple. Hayley's missed like eight. Yeah, but Hayley's via Zoom in another country. No, I know. Yeah, give me a break. She's been doing really well on the road.
Starting point is 00:16:23 But I don't know. Yeah, if there's train spotters who listen to the show, start running some stats on a missed out. ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. I'll say over the last 48 hours, it's been three hours of sleep. I don't know how you're functioning. It's like SAS
Starting point is 00:16:35 level sleep deprivation to test you. You can't fall asleep. You've got to sniper someone. Yeah, dude. I've got to sniper someone. I've got to sniper the audience with my jokes, you know? At any moment. Yeah. At any moment. Surprise Saturdays is something that the girlies are talking about online.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I assume some girlies told me about this. The producer girlies said about Surprise Saturdays. Yeah. And I like the idea of it, but for a completely different reason. Girlies, is this a grown up version of red cards? Yes, I used to love a
Starting point is 00:17:07 red card when I was a student. I don't like being told when it's time to drink. Oh my goodness, Hayley, let me tell you about my culture. So basically... And they say East Auckland has no culture. Wait, but is it alright for us to appropriate your culture?
Starting point is 00:17:24 Yeah, I'm allowing it. So basically, what a red card is, is when you live in a flat or like when we studied at B school, everyone is allocated one. You have it in a small group and you have this metaphorical red card and you get one a year and at any point during the year, you can message your group chat
Starting point is 00:17:40 a red card emoji or like a red flag and that is you saying I am taking control of the group tonight you have to do whatever I say. Drop everything. Drop everything. You have no say in this. You then get the group to do whatever you want. I will say people
Starting point is 00:17:55 tend to drink not in moderation from this. That's generally the vibe. Yeah, you're getting on it basically. Yeah, and then there's a way to get your red card back if you want to have a second one. How is this not a thing at your drama school? It's drama school energy.
Starting point is 00:18:11 It's big drama school energy. No, but speaking of drama school energy, I yesterday was having lunch with a British person and he was telling me that he comes from scrumpy land and I said, you know, like the land of cider and scrumpy and I said, well you must be very aware of scrumpy hands and he was like, what scrumpy hands? And I said
Starting point is 00:18:32 let me share with you my culture. That's also my culture. And I tell you what, on the show this morning we're really putting our best foot forward when it comes to culture. Scrumpy hands and red cards. But the whole thing with red cards is you tend to theme them. So I went to a few.
Starting point is 00:18:46 One was Greek God themed and you got assigned a God for the night. I went to a seven deadly sins. So you got assigned a sin with a challenge. So it's kind of like the idea of, yeah, you're taking control of the group and you're dictating a theme and an activity for the evening.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Right. So Surprise Saturdays is the grown up version where you would get minimal information. You turn up to a friend's house and they'll organise what you're doing. They're not necessarily paying for it. So this would be like if our friend group just turned up at yours on Saturday
Starting point is 00:19:16 and then you've got something planned. The gate would be shut. I'd be like, not today. Yeah, what do you mean turned up? Is the surprise bit the time and the date at all? No, no, no. Or that's agreed on? No, that's agreed upon.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Like, I would say to the group, hey, guys, meet at my place, two o'clock, Saturday afternoon, leisure wear. Oh, okay. And bring, and, you know, we're looking at a budget of about $80 a person or something like that. Okay. So you just put that out there and then they get there and they're at your behest.
Starting point is 00:19:45 What are we doing in leisure wear on Saturday at yours? Rock climbing. You have been saying to us, actually, you've genuinely been saying to us. You really have. I want to go rock climbing. But I don't want to go by myself. Okay. Do you know why? It's because
Starting point is 00:20:00 Vaughan keeps doing pull-ups at the gym and he's got all jacked and he's got these muscly arms. Yeah. What am I going to do? I'm up to 150 a day. I can't even use my shoulder. I'm just going to be, I'll have to be relaying you.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Can you do that thing where you pull the load? Yeah, I can do that. Belay, relay. Yeah. That'd be fun. Why don't you climb the wall with your big muscles, Fletch, you're down as the base with your strong legs, and I'll be the cheerleader because I'm the girl of the show.
Starting point is 00:20:26 No. Everyone has to participate. But that's the problem with Surprise Saturdays. I'd look at the people who have said they'll come and then pick a universally disliked thing for everybody just because they can't say no. But also that's a good way of putting people out of their comfort zone. Maybe trying something new. Totally. Challenge
Starting point is 00:20:42 yourself. Yeah. So it's kind of like going on a stag do or a hens. It's like a blind date. Yeah. But one person's not being targeted. It's not one person's special day. It's kind of like a group activity. I like that. But it's got big. And when I was like
Starting point is 00:20:57 in my 20s, I would have been very cynical about this and I said this reeks of Christian youth group. Yeah. But now that I'm in my 40s, I'd be like, I'll give that a go. Yeah, it'd be fun. Because it's doing something different. I miss a long time ago we had a United Nations potluck. That was great.
Starting point is 00:21:13 That was a good idea. Everybody bought something from around the world, a different country. And they browned up their faces if they were representing a brown nation. Yeah, I bought tacos and went full blonde sombrero, fake moustache, spoke in the accent, thin lizzie'd myself to within an inch of it, you know? Yeah. It was a different time. It was a different time.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Play ZM's Fleshborn and Hayley. Play ZM's Fleshborn and Hayley. From the unmoderated comment section, this is the top six. All right. Hill House in Auckland has been ceased and desisted from Cinnabon. This is an Auckland cafe. Correct, yes. The years have been selling this.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Cinnabons. Yeah, they spell, which is like A big fat cinnamon scroll Real good up Looks currently Amazing I don't even think They are Seasonal They're not a seasonal
Starting point is 00:22:15 They're an A year round Situation Of course You can have a Cinnabun Anytime you want Yeah Totally
Starting point is 00:22:21 Cinnabon The big American company Came into Where they've got One store now in Auckland. Ah, yeah. And they were like, stop it. Cease and desist.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Because I'm assuming when they came in, they copyrighted and trademarked everything. Yeah. So I guess when you're a small family-run cafe, you don't really think about having to trademark everything. And that's what we've always called them, right? Cinnamon buns. Can they even call them cinnamon scrolls or cinnamon buns?
Starting point is 00:22:47 So apparently the letter that the cafe got, the cease and desist, said that it can no longer use the name Cinnabon or anything close to it. How did Cinnabon even become aware of this? Like, I just don't understand. Yeah, I guess online. Maybe. But we're just little old New Zealand Listen to this paragraph in Hill House Cafe's Instagram post
Starting point is 00:23:09 These buns began as a Sunday ritual Baked by Ricardo and his grandmother When he was just four years old The same recipe is still baked from scratch Every morning by our amazing team And that same love now still lives in every single swirl Only the name's changing Oh, they've basically
Starting point is 00:23:22 It's the David and Goliath And they've just loaded up their slingshot with the he did this when he was a baby child with his grandmother who I assume is six months. Yeah. Oh my god, they look good though. Oh my god. Go and buy one. Let's get a couple. Let's get a couple. Hell House campaign.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Go support them. Get a couple on the go. But you're going to help them out with a new name for them. Yeah, I've got six names here. The top six names. Because it just has to be different enough. Yeah, okay. So our number six on the list is the Almost Cinnabons. I don't know because you're still saying Cinnabons.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Yeah, but it's Almost Cinnabons. Yeah, I don't know. It would be like me making a movie called Almost Star Wars. What about Seven Deadly Cinnabons? Almost Star Wars. Oh my God, you should see my film, Almost Lord of the Rings. Yeah. But it's not Lord of the Rings, but it's Almost.
Starting point is 00:24:09 It's adjacent. Yeah. Almost. I don't think they'll let you use that one. Almost Titanic. Okay. Our number five on the list of the top six new names for Hill House's Cinnabons, Cease and a Cinnabon.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Perfect, but again, you've got Cinnabon in it. They should just call them Cease and Desist Buns. The Cease and Desinabun Again Perfect But again you've got Sinabun in it They should just call them Cease and Desist Buns The Cease and Desist Buns Oh my god That would be brilliant Cease and Desist Buns I just think
Starting point is 00:24:32 Cease and Desinabun Is funny Cease and Desinabun Yes That's a good one That's a good one Cease and Desinabun Buns
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah Have you got like Four more I've got four more Okay Do you feel like We're sort of moving Towards that as a show You know Top six I've got like Four more Because you could just Do a top six I've got four more Okay Do you feel like We're sort of moving Towards that as a show
Starting point is 00:24:46 You know Sort of a Top six I've got the top six You can have it No I don't want it Take it all Number four on the list
Starting point is 00:24:54 Of the top six New names for Hill House Is Cinnabuns Cinnanottabun Cinnanottabun Yeah It's not in there It's quite good It's not Yeah okay Cinnottabun. Cinna-not-a-bun. Yeah. It's not in there. It's quite good.
Starting point is 00:25:05 It's saying it's not. Yeah, okay. Cinna-not-a-bun. Cinna-not-a-bun. Cinna-not-a-bun. Cinna-not-a-bun. Cinna-not-a-bun. Number three on the list of the top six possible new names
Starting point is 00:25:15 for the cinna-buns from her house. The bun formerly known as cinna-bun. Okay, yeah. But again, you're using cinna-bun. And then the cinna-abon is just a symbol, and it's a scrolly symbol, but a bit of like, how do I pronounce that? And you say, it's pronounced the bun formerly known as Cinnabon.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Again, I don't know how that's going to go. It's Cinnabons in it, yeah. Number two on the list of the top six new names for the Hill House Cinnabon. What about Cinnanimbon? Yeah, I like that. Because you know when something's like something but it's not it, you say it's a Cinnanum. Because you're still allowed to use the word bun,
Starting point is 00:25:51 right? Well, your bun's not trademarked. They don't own bun. That's crazy. They don't own bun? Yeah. And number one on the list of the top six new names for the Hill House Cinnabon to appease Cinnabon.
Starting point is 00:26:08 Sin of Buns. Sin of Buns. Sin of Buns. They've committed a sin. They're a gooey, like, a gooey, evil treat. I love that. But also letting them
Starting point is 00:26:20 know that they had committed the sin. So good. Everybody here is just celebrating for Cinnabon. Yeah. I know. We've had a message in as well saying that the ones at Hill House Cafe are amazing.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Yeah. Way better than American Cinnabon. They look. They look absolutely slick. They look really good. They look real good. That is today's top six. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
Starting point is 00:26:39 We want to ask now when the flat accounts went bad. Yeah. Because there's always some shiftiness, isn't there? Yeah, dude. If not everybody's seeing the bills coming in and going out and you're just told, oh, the power's this much, you just pay it, don't you? Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 00:26:56 You wrongly trust people, don't you? Yeah. Trust is earned and when it's broken. That's right. Well, this has started from a Reddit post and this is a wild story. So this lady, she has been dating this man for five years. They moved into a,
Starting point is 00:27:12 it sounds like one property with two houses on it. Yeah. And his parents were living in one house. Yeah. And her and her partner were living in the other. So this is his parents that are living in the other house. I'd put my parents in the smaller one. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Do you know what I mean? They need less room. I'd be in the big one. And would you sell it to them? Like, you know, it's less to clean. It's easier to maintain that sort of vibe. Yeah, for sure. Like, this is what you need.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I think this is what you want. Less responsibility. So they said the rent for the total property was $1,600. Oh, no, no. So for their half of it was $1,600. So the boyfriend was putting in $800 a month and she was putting in $800 a month. That's cheap.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Yeah. That's cheap, man. She has just found out that the money she was putting into his account, for the rent, he was just keeping it. And he wasn't paying rent. Because the dad was covering the entire property's rent and saying to the son, you live there rent free, I'll help you out.
Starting point is 00:28:17 But he said to her, this house is $1,600 a month, let's go halfsies. She's like, okay, cool. So he's getting $200 a week. And this has been going on for years. For a year, just's go halfsies. She's like, okay, cool. So she's just basically... So he's getting $200 a week. And this has been going on for years. For a year, just over a year. Yeah, when she found out. And then, how do you reckon she found out? Like, the
Starting point is 00:28:34 dad just said, you know, it's so nice to help you kids out, rent free, must be such a good help. She's like, what? So, she hit him up about it, and he said he apologised for the dishonesty, but still couldn't really see the issue, because, like, what? She's like, what? So she hit him up about it and he said he apologised for the dishonesty but still couldn't really see the issue because, like, his dad was paying for it and that's his dad.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Yeah, but give the money to the dad. Nah, because his dad isn't charging them any rent. But he's my dad, so of course. Yeah. He's not your dad, so you've got to pay rent. So I know that that's fine. This guy's got only child energy hard. He does have only child energy.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Also, how long did you say they've been together for? Five years? That's a betrayal. And that's an injury. You're breaking up with that guy, right? She just told me. Oh, get out. He turned around and said, okay, it's all
Starting point is 00:29:24 here in an account for our first time. Oh, she's a woman, she'd still be shitty. Because she'd be like, I wanted to buy a cardigan and there was no money. Cardigan? Well, I don't know what she wants to buy. We're not really doing cardigans. We're not really doing cardigans.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Okay, I'll head a little closer to home. I want to spend thousands of dollars on a leather jacket and I didn't have it because of the rent situation. Can you just make your scenarios more relatable to you? Yeah. Specifically to you? Yeah. For me, I'm the target. Yeah. You're the target. Yeah. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. So this is what we want to know because this happens in flats all the time. So we had this in our social circle. Not, it wasn't the flat that I was living in though every now and then i also would be a day late for rent yeah and my friend rio would just sort it out but that's a different story um siggy's and wine came first yeah but um and during the same time there
Starting point is 00:30:16 were friends that had a flat and there was just one person was in charge of it we were all assuming that the bills were getting paid until it was revealed, like, they hadn't paid for power and, you know, electricity and something for ages. And then it was, like, too late. And they'd just been putting in this money and she'd been spending it. And they just cut the power off and that's when you knew. Yeah, I think, like, people came over and there was a debt collection and stuff. Oh, my God. That is wild.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Okay, well, that's what we want to ask this morning. 0800 dials at Emma's number. You can text through 9696. When did the flat accounts go bad? We're talking about the fiddling of the flat accounts. It's when there's a shared account, money goes into it, what's somebody doing? Because a girl has gone online
Starting point is 00:31:08 to share the fact that her boyfriend has been pocketing her rent money as her dad, his dad has been covering their rent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:14 So he's just been using her $800 a month as spending money. I feel we need to touch more on the fact that when one of your old flatmates moved out, you charged more
Starting point is 00:31:21 for their room, so you paid less. Well, as the establishing couple of the flat and the last remaining OGs, when people moved out, you charged more for their room so you paid less. As the establishing couple of the flat and the last remaining OGs, when people moved out and somebody else moved in, the rent game had changed and rent had become
Starting point is 00:31:33 more expensive so we would add $10 and take $10 off our rent. Like an admin fee. We owned everything in the flat. But also that's how some flats are divvied up because if some rooms are bigger, someone pays more. So that's not unusual. Hey, that's the free market, baby.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I didn't ask for capitalism, but I'm not going to let all these opportunities pass me by. Did anyone ever discover that you were doing this? No. But it's, see, I don't mind that, the room difference thing, but it's when someone was skimming off bills and saying that power was more. Somebody said their flatmate was very fastidiously in charge of the group shop. And it's quite a responsibility
Starting point is 00:32:12 so everyone was willing to let them do it, no questions asked, just for the essentials and stuff. And then we had a new flatmate move in and it was like, can I see the receipt? And the flatmate was like, no. They throw it out. And they're like, well, next time, can you keep the receipt? And they went through and checked and they added it all up. Guess what? Skimming. No, the flatmate, every time they'd do the flat shop,
Starting point is 00:32:33 would get 20 bucks out and buy a pack of cigs. So the flat was all chipping in for 20 bucks and a pack of cigs. Classic. When it came up. Some other messages. My flatmate said our water bill was $100 a month so I paid her religiously
Starting point is 00:32:47 for a year. It turns out our landlord covered water. That was included in the rent. What? Oh, see, that's like outright ripping someone off. Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:32:57 My mate not only charged his flatmates enough so that he could live rent free, he also made about $15 a week. It's probably ciggies again. It's always for the ciggies. It's always for the ciggies. You're not going to get many ciggies for $15 though. No. These days. My best friend was overcharging and I had
Starting point is 00:33:12 no idea because I have severe dyslexia until my mum looked at my accounts and realised that I'd been paying twice the amount of rent I should have been paying. Twice? That's rough. That's taking advantage of somebody in a situation. I lived in a flat in Auckland, moved in, wasn't allowed to put any furniture in the house. Lockdown happened, the main tenant lost their job,
Starting point is 00:33:30 so just hid in her room. The rest of us got along really well. Turns out after some digging, we were paying the rent and the total added up to the entire house's rent. So she was rent free? Yeah, she wasn't paying anything and had the main bedroom with a walk-in wardrobe and ensuite. And we only found this out because we all started
Starting point is 00:33:47 talking about how much rent we were paying. Wild. Not me, but my daughter's flat. A rich family owned the flat for the son. He charged everybody for bills and full rent, but the bills went unpaid. Then the tragic death of a flatmate,
Starting point is 00:34:04 he still charged the family rent. Even though he was not paying any rent, his family owned the property. Then he rented out the room, so he got double the rent while the family was paying the three weeks. Had some heart.
Starting point is 00:34:20 And kept all the dead flatmates stuff in the garage, despite the family wanting to come up and go through his stuff. My daughter soon left the flat. What a POS. Yeah. Point of sale. Is that what you mean?
Starting point is 00:34:33 What an absolute point of sale. What an absolute point of sale. I was going to say the same thing. Dude, you're such a point of sale. You are such an electronic funds transfer at point of sale. And I've had enough of it. Slightly different, but our flatmate change from paying weekly to paying it fortnightly.
Starting point is 00:34:49 When she switched, she accidentally paid more. I didn't realise until she moved out. Wondered why we suddenly had an excess in our bill account. Never told her. Viewed it as her mistake. What was he, does he? Yep. Oh, I mean, you know, take advantage of that.
Starting point is 00:35:01 But that's what Monopoly taught us, right? Like bank error in your favour. Bank error in your favour. Flatmate error in your favour. Flatmate error in your favour, take advantage of it. But that's what Monopoly taught us, right? Like bank error in your favour. Bank error in your favour. You keep it. Flatmate error in your favour. Flatmate error in your favour. You're keeping it. You're keeping it.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Fletchbourne and Hayley, silly little poe, silly little poe. It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little poe, silly little poe, silly little poe, silly little poe, Silly Little Poll today is about spoilers. After a TV show or movie releases, how long is the grace period before you can post slash talk about spoilers? I think one, I voted one day. One day?
Starting point is 00:35:44 Yep. No. One day. No, no, no, no I voted one day. One day? Yep. No. One day. No, no, no, no. One whole day. Like, for example, White Lotus was Monday night. Yeah. I would, if I was to post or talk about it, I'd do it on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Monday the following week. No, no, no. You've got to give people a week. Yeah, I say a week too. No. And it's not just because I haven't watched the White Lotus finale yet. And I think TV shows a week but a movie longer.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I just don't think if it's a movie longer you don't talk about spoiler alert. The reason I say a day is because all the media companies and the meme makers don't wait. So if you're not watching a show that's weekly like White
Starting point is 00:36:24 Lotus or starting on Monday, there's The Last of Us Season 2. If you're not watching that show on the day it comes out, you're screwed. You're going to get spoilers. There were so many company memes about the Walton Goggins, you know, the scene with the monologue in it with... Sam Rockwell.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Sam Rockwell. Like literally within an hour of that episode airing, he was releasing it. I didn't know. He was in more of the show. Sam Rockwell was in more. You didn't tell me that. I know. It was a surprise. I know you love him. Love Sam Rockwell. Such a great
Starting point is 00:36:57 season too. Well, we asked. 57% of respondees said at least a week. That is by miles that is out there. I mean, people are busy, right? They don't always have time to sit down on demand or when the episode comes out. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And I think we were all kind of bruised by the red wedding, you know, that kind of got spoiled for a lot of people. Yeah, for Game of Thrones. Yeah. So the second most popular was three to six days at 17%. So I will say 40% less. Yeah. Than the people who said over a week at 57. And then one%. So I will say 40% less. Yeah. Than the people who said over a week at 57.
Starting point is 00:37:27 And then one and two days were both 13% each. So. Okay. Some feedback. Sophie says it was only 24 hours. I was only 24 hours behind watching the White Lotus final and got a massive spoiler on Facebook. I saw it on Facebook too.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I had it spoiled for me. It wasn't like mystery thing, click here. It was like who died and a picture of it. Yeah, don't. Right, yeah. And I was like, that's so, like not even two days afterwards at that stage. Yeah, that's bad.
Starting point is 00:37:55 That was bad. Never, said Tony Anna. Never, just don't. No one wants to know your thoughts. I heard an interesting thought about the time where a spoiler resets itself. So the Sixth Sense movie. Yeah. The original M. Night Shyamalan ultimate twist that got him making 12 more movies that nobody likes.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Nobody likes, yeah. Apart from Signs. Signs was good. I think we can all agree. Signs was good. When the alien walks past the kid's birthday party, I shit my pants. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:27 So now there was the sixth sense when it came out, when it was at the movies. Yeah. Then it became sort of a cultural touch point for everyone of that age. Yeah. That everybody knew the spoiler. But now, 20 years later, there's a whole generation of people that wouldn't have had that cultural touch point.
Starting point is 00:38:44 So you're not allowed to spoil it. So you shouldn't spoil the old spoilers either. Do you know what I mean? You shouldn't spoil the old movies because it's refreshed itself. It's almost overgrown again. Because Gen Alpha and Gen Z can't buy houses, so don't spoil their movies too. Bingo.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Nah, but he is dead the whole time. No! What? Hayley. Hayley. A year, said Kate. What? Hayley. Hayley. What? A year, said Kate. I want a year's grace period on any spoilers.
Starting point is 00:39:11 The very next day while gathering at the waterhole slash water cooler, just like we used to do in my day, week to week for the whole season when broadcast television was the only way to watch something. Yeah. And you could never watch it back. Yeah. No, unless you video recorded it.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Bree said, What? No spoilers at all. You need to post vague intrigue until somebody responds and then and only then you can begin a one-on-one conversation with what has happened.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah. The statute of limitation for spoilers, says David, should be at least 10 years. Would you like to know the ending of Game of Thrones? Are you joking, says Gracie. It's got to be like a fortnight to a month minimum.
Starting point is 00:39:48 No. Annie said, definitely a week or more. To be courteous of people who can't watch it straight away, like shift workers, do you want to ruin everything for nurses? Yeah. We don't. We don't want to ruin everything for nurses. And people who spoil shows on purpose absolutely suck.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I hope you fall over today. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley. Now, joining us in studio... Bad news, Brad. Good morning. Thank God. Thank God.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I think I'm going to earn this nickname very, very much again today. Oh, no, Brad. Oh, no. Save us. It's been a tough time, guys. Jeepers. Have you seen the markets? Have you actually?
Starting point is 00:40:26 I don't know what it really means, to be honest. The markets. Have you looked at your KiwiSaver? Oh, yes, absolutely. Now, I believe that must be a miscalculation. I haven't managed fun with a little bit of money in it, and I think I was gloating to these guys like... 13%?
Starting point is 00:40:41 Which is like, yeah, at one stage, and now it's like minus three. Yesterday it was like minus three returns. So I've actually lost money. That's fun. Yeah, I mean, so you were a baller for a moment and then you really weren't. He's a baller and now he's balling.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Guys, it's a ball ache. Can we start from the start? Because it's all very confusing. How did this all happen? Well, US President Donald Trump came out and he said, you know what, tariffs are beautiful, the most amazing thing, and he decided that everyone in the world needed to experience that. So he put a minimum 10% tariff on everyone,
Starting point is 00:41:15 and then basically there were about 60 countries that cost something up above that, something up to 50% tariff. Now, tariff is an import tax, so anything that, say, China was sending to the US, those consumers now have to pay whatever that tariff rate is more. So for New Zealand wine, people who are sending New Zealand wine to the States,
Starting point is 00:41:33 if you're buying it over in the US, you're paying 10% more than you were before for a bottle of Sauvignon Blanc. So tariffs essentially were to protect local industry, right? So you would put a tariff on a wine so that US wine was cheaper and preferred? Is that what tariffs were originally for? That's the idea. It's still bad economic principles.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Generally, you see tariffs more in developing countries where you're trying to start up an industry. You've got a new country where it's pretty low income and you want to make sure that your local producers don't get screwed over immediately. The US is the biggest economy in the world. It does not need tariff protection. So this is just bad economic policy.
Starting point is 00:42:10 And that's why the markets have reacted like this. Basically, everyone out there in the economy is going, oh, my God, we're going to be paying a lot more for stuff. If we're paying more on the tariff front, then that's less money that consumers can spend in America on just physical items because they're paying a tax, they're not paying for other stuff. And so all the businesses are going, holy crap, I haven't got enough money. I'm not going to be able to make as much. So all of a sudden, everyone's gone, look, I'm selling off. I don't want that stock price anymore.
Starting point is 00:42:34 It's not good for me. It's not going to make me money. They've been running away. So it's been a chaotic couple of days. Even overnight, President Trump said, hey, look, these big tariffs that I thought were big and beautiful, we're going to pause them. Joking. This was my plan.
Starting point is 00:42:50 This is what they've come out in this morning and said, this was my plan all along. No, it wasn't. It really wasn't. And so now the markets have shot up. Now, they're still worse than where they were before the tariffs have come through. But there's a little bit more relief coming forward, a little bit less bad today than it was yesterday. But let's be clear. It's now been six, seven days. We have no idea where this rollercoaster goes next.
Starting point is 00:43:07 So it's just, there's a lot of ups and downs. And he's still putting 125% tariffs on China, but that's going to affect us too, right? Yeah, well, I mean, firstly, how insane is that? Whatever products are now going into the US from China are now double the cost of what they were a couple of days ago. Like, double. And is China the US's biggest trading partner?
Starting point is 00:43:27 It is. Or one of them? It's most of our biggest trading partners as well, right? Now, and the flow-on effect for New Zealand is that if China has got this big tariff and the US are not buying as much from China, then at some point China's probably not making as much. If they're not making as much in China, they're not going to be paying as many workers in China
Starting point is 00:43:43 because they don't need as many. And what's going to happen then? Those Chinese workers that don't have as much money, they're not going to be paying as many workers in China because they don't need as many. And what's going to happen then? Those Chinese workers that don't have as much money, they're not going to be able to afford to buy New Zealand lamb, they're not going to be able to buy New Zealand milk. So that's where the sort of flow and effect for us comes from. There's going to be less free spins on Teemu too, probably.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Oh, I love my free spins. I always get a nice little air free. I always win. I always win. It's always like, hey, here's $350 but you've got to spend it in the next 10 seconds. I'm pretty sure you're always supposed to win on those things. But it's nice to have a win. If people are looking at their funds,
Starting point is 00:44:13 Kiwi Savers, and they're panicking, what should and shouldn't they do? Some people are just freaking out. Oh, and totally understandable. I mean, geez, this is a big event. This is probably, you know, this is some of the worst things we've had since the start of COVID, the global financial crisis. Like, let's not beat around the bush.
Starting point is 00:44:29 This is big, big stuff. But this is man-made though, this one. This is deliberate. I think for people... Confirmed man-made. Orange made. If you are out there and you're worrying about your KiwiSaver or your investments, firstly, take a breath because it's happened. You can't do anything about what's already gone through, so just
Starting point is 00:44:47 take a bit of a breath. If you are looking at retiring soon and you're going to need that KiwiSaver, if you're thinking of buying soon and you're going to need that cash for a deposit, go and talk to someone. Don't rashly do anything about it on your phone right this second. Go and talk to someone, make it quick so that you can make a good decision, but you probably want to be thinking about your risk tolerance. Now, again, I've said on the show before, personally, not looking to use my KiwiSaver at any point in the next couple of years. So I'm real happy for it to go up and down because I think I can recover it over the next 40 or so before I retire. If I was looking to use it for a home deposit the next couple of months, I don't want it to fluctuate. If I need
Starting point is 00:45:21 to go to the bank and say, hey guys, I need my deposit, they're going to say, well, you told us you had $40,000 and now it's only worth $35,000. Where's the extra $5,000? So you might want to be a little bit more conservative on your risk if you're in those sorts of areas, maybe moving into a cash fund or something like that. But talk to your advisor. They'll know they'll have a lot of queries like this at the moment, but I wouldn't panic and make a big change. That's often where the regret sets in. I just feel like to breathe. I think I feel like to breathe in the entire time you're talking, Sasha.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Is the idea, Brad, that like, if you can hold on, you know, if you're not going to buy a house this year, next year, that once Trump's out... It's a long time for that. Well, he might almost be doing that executive audit for a third term, isn't he? Yeah, but is the idea that hopefully the next person will kind of remove
Starting point is 00:46:11 these and things will resettle? I mean, that's part of it. I think also, let's be clear, the last couple of days, again, you've seen so much ups and downs. I'm just looking at the Dow Jones at the moment. It's still down about 5% from where it was, you know, back before the tariffs came in, if you look sort of going back a month or so. But it's been far, far lower than that. You know, it's recovered, I'm not going to say half of its losses, but a fair bit in the even last couple of hours. So let's just be clear, this is a rollercoaster ride,
Starting point is 00:46:37 and I don't know if I'd be making any particularly strong movement on any of these announcements. Everything seems to change in an instant. And I sort of feel like the best move for a lot of people is if you were already worried, then you should probably have already moved and you should already be in motion to do that. If you haven't moved yet, it might
Starting point is 00:46:53 well be worth talking to some people, but honestly, give it a week and you could see a whole different ballgame here. So I think the main thing here is don't jump at shadows because there are a lot of them at the moment. If you did have a bit of cash, is it a good time to do the old buy the dip idea yeah yeah yeah i heard a lot about that and and i think i mean again i mean it sort of comes down to how much um how much wrist tolerance how much gumption have you got if you're sort of pretty keen that you
Starting point is 00:47:18 can i have nothing but gumption you are nothing well see that's that's sort of what I thought. Brad, I'm gumption and vibes. Gumption and vibes would be a great folk band name, shouldn't it be? I reckon it would be a good investment term. Gumption and vibes. Yeah. Which is just... It's just a Ponzi scheme. People don't go to jail for those anymore, do they?
Starting point is 00:47:38 They definitely do. They definitely do. Okay, so some questions we all had. Somebody said, I recently got some inheritance. Is it worth just putting in the bank? I need safety because I'm close to retirement. But do I need safety or should I be looking to invest in something else right now? Oh, I think, look, I think the answer's sort of in the question.
Starting point is 00:47:57 If you want safety, then yeah, you don't want to be risking it. So you'd probably want to put some of it in the bank, at least enough to keep you going over. Well, just enough to keep you going over. Yeah, that would be my first place. The other thing is, is if you've got that money, you'd almost want to put a good bulk of it in a term deposit and then make a bit of a call. Sit back and go, okay, what do I actually want the money to do for me?
Starting point is 00:48:14 Because again, you don't want to sort of stress out because the worst thing you could do in that situation, right, is take all of that inheritance or whatever, plonk it on something that's just like gambling at that point. And then five seconds later going, oh no, I didn't think that through. So take the time to think it through. One more question. Fixed term mortgages up this week. Do I fix now or wait to see if the OCR is going to drop?
Starting point is 00:48:34 OCR dropped yesterday. But what flow on to fixed rates? I think, I mean, it's floating pretty quick, but fix can take a week. Yeah, it does take a while to come through. I think for a lot of people out there when they're thinking about their mortgages, we know that a lot of people are fixing short because they think it'll continue to come down. Again, run the numbers.
Starting point is 00:48:50 You know, are you better on a two-year? Are you better on a six-month? I think those floating rates at the moment are still pretty high, so I don't know if I'd be doing too much. But then what happens to our mortgage rates if the US goes into a recession and the shitstorm continues? Well, on one hand, you could definitely see the likes of interest rates come down.
Starting point is 00:49:06 That's what the Reserve Bank sort of signalled yesterday. That's almost their leaning, but they're not super strong on it because, and not to get too technical, this is a supply shock. This is not a classic demand. It shouldn't necessarily be that you cut, cut, cut, because you could see more inflation coming through from the US. Which we've just battled from last summer. Interest rates are too low.
Starting point is 00:49:23 And that's how we also got rid of the inflation is with high interest rates. So all I'm saying here is there is a balanced risk on either side. Again, wouldn't jump at the shadows immediately. Probably we'll know a lot more come the middle of May when the Reserve Bank comes out with their next set of forecasts. So steady the ship for a minute.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Join Brad and I on our new financial podcast Vibes and Gumption. This is good. It's like he takes the safe road and I just gamble everybody new financial podcast Vibes and Gumption. This is good. It's like he takes the safe road and I just gamble everybody's TV set. I love that idea. Brad, thank you so much for coming in. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Okay, so I'm in Melbourne for the Comedy Fest at the moment and I'm staying in these sort of service departments. They're fine. Like it's nice, but it's the kind of nice where, like, the towel rails come off the wall, and so they've just screwed it higher and left the holes.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Yes! That's a landlord fix. What you've got on your hands is a landlord fix. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're like, okay, well, that's fine. You know, it's serving me well. Yeah. But I don't think I really knew what serviced apartments meant i thought it was just sort of like a little bit like a hotel and
Starting point is 00:50:30 maybe a couple of times a week housekeeping will come and give me some fresh sheets yeah because every everyone's always different sometimes they just leave you there for the two or three days you're there yeah and they don't do anything it's probably based on how long you're staying right if it's two or three days you're there and they don't do anything. It's probably based on how long you're staying, right? If it's two or three days, wallow in your own filth, you filthy little piggy. But if you're there for like, how long are you there for? Two weeks, three weeks?
Starting point is 00:50:51 15, 15 nights. 15 nights, they're probably like, she looked mucky on the way in. Maybe we'll give her some towels in a week. No, no. You've got towels after three days energy and a change of sheets. Fletch, I'll give you two nights
Starting point is 00:51:03 because you're a sheet muckier. He's a flannel ruiner. He's a sheet muckier. I don't know. You're a dirty boy. He's a flannel ruiner. He's a flannel ruiner. We know this. Rumours about your sheet usage are probably spread throughout the hospitality industry of Melbourne. That's because I cleaned my shoes once with a flannel.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Oh, and then you got an $8 charge. I have an $8 flannel fee. So I sort of thought the same. I've got three-day towel energy. I've got three- to four-day sheet energy for a service department. So this happened on thought the same. I've got three-day towel energy. I've got three-day, three to four-day sheet energy for a service department. So this happened on the first night. Like had the first night here.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Next day, did my radio. And after radio, I've been getting back into bed and having a little schnooze because it's very early here in Melbourne. And this is when I was awoken to someone in the apartment and I was like, what is happening? And I realized, one, I was nude
Starting point is 00:51:53 and two, all items of clothing that I had were in this common area and not in the little bedroom that I was in. So there was no way to not be nude and that's when I see a little peeping face poke in through, there's a little sliding cavity door, poke in and say, oh my goodness, I'm so sorry. And it was
Starting point is 00:52:09 housekeeping. And they're just like turned up. And obviously they'd knocked on the door to, you know, housekeeping, housekeeping. I was fast asleep. They thought no one's here. In they come, start cleaning the thing and I'm in there completely nude. And she absolutely copped a tit. Did she?
Starting point is 00:52:27 Don't you have one of those signs to put on your door? Oh, you want to send those now, Fletch? I'll send them now. They do not disturb. What is it, your first time in a hotel room? It's not a hotel, it's an apartment. I thought I had longer. So anyway, I do apologise
Starting point is 00:52:43 to the housekeeping here at the apartment. It's not the first time they've seen one of those. A tit? Yeah. But it sounds like you said it was a she. She may have her own. She could have her own. Yeah, so she's probably seen some that day.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Now, I don't know a lot about them having only ever seen one pair. Yeah. Christian Boy. Of course. But I hear they can look different. They vary in shape size and color um so maybe did she linger and different to hers did she linger and maybe no scarper okay are you suggesting that it wasn't a good boob it's not a good review if she's scarping no
Starting point is 00:53:18 how dare you how very very dear you fled you, Fletch? A slightly lingering peak? Yeah, but then that's creepy, isn't it? No, she's scarred, but she got a fright. She's scarred, but she was scared. Mother of man, must do. Must do. Must do a reasonable explanation that she's got terrifying breasts. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. This is going to blow your mind. So Emily Marchant, she is a bride-to-be, had a hen stew, had a whole weekend, you know, not just a one-nighter, but a weekend. Yeah. And she, they had a big night on the Friday, went out, had a 3 a.m. finish.
Starting point is 00:54:01 So, you know, there were some tequila's involved. 3 a.m. finish, 9 a.m., she's on the start line for a marathon. Oh, you know, there were some tequila's involved. 3am finish. 9am she's on the start line for a marathon. Oh no, no thanks. A full marathon. She's one of those people that goes on runs on holidays. It's good for you and you get to see some stuff. I'm not against
Starting point is 00:54:18 that you ever run on holiday. I'm not against it, but I shall never do it. You 100% can be holier than thou to everybody who didn't go for a run. Oh, yeah, that's the best part. So part of the hen's do is not only partying, but it's also doing a marathon. Doing a marathon.
Starting point is 00:54:34 So I think some of her bridal party came along, but here's the crazy bit. So 3 a.m. finish in town, 9 a.m. we're on the start line. She finishes in third. She gets a podium finish. Wow. That's impressive. I can't even walk to the fridge after a 3am finish. You know what I mean? Like I'm bringing Uber Eats to the bed and she finishes third on a podium. And she was like, we just did this. We got here. We did this. We had a few drinks. Um, some,
Starting point is 00:55:02 some people were feeling questionable in the morning and I was trying to be sensible the night before. I got too excited and then the marathon was part of the thing and she just did it. So, I mean, bravo. Never, never in your life were you so excited. Did the other girls even make it up to get to the finish line to clap her on as she came across? Because if you start
Starting point is 00:55:19 those marathons early, you're done by like especially if she came third. Nine. She could have been done by nine, ten. Still be in bed, yeah. She's obviously a keen runner. Did it in sub three. So if it started at nine, okay, yeah, I'd still
Starting point is 00:55:36 be in bed. Lunch, yes, so starts at nine. Lunch, noon, she's crossing the finish line. Wild. So impressive. It's just a little bit out of the ordinary, isn't it, for a hen's do, which you think it'll be, you know, maybe if it's a pottery or a winery tour. We want to know this morning,
Starting point is 00:55:53 what was the weird thing at the hen's do, the strange event, the thing that was a little bit out of the ordinary? Did you have an unusual hens or stags? Yeah. Yeah, we'll take stags as well. Yeah, I just want to know if you just, maybe you did a really odd activity that maybe had a few people asking questions, raising eyebrows.
Starting point is 00:56:12 I don't know. I kind of cringe when I see some of the stag does when they're dressed and it's just, I don't know. I like a more chill. I did it again would like a h's do for my stag party. It would be like spa day, relaxing, go to a vineyard. And then the strippers. No, I don't want strippers.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Yeah, but when's the stripper? Someone just texted my brother's doing a spa weekend for his stag do. I love that. Dude, that would be amazing. We could just go to Onsen. Just relax. We could just do Onsen. Oh, let's. Oh, my God. Everyone's could just go to Onsen. Just relax. We could just do Onsen. Oh, let's.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Oh, my God. Why do we wait? Everyone's going to have such nice toes. Why do we wait for a stag do to have a lovely weekend with our dudes? Should we do an Onsen spa weekend? I love that idea. Okay. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:56:56 We should. All three of us. No. This is a stag do. Sorry. It's guys only. It's stags. Yeah, but I'm like one of the boys.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. 0800 DALS at M. Are you one of the bullies? Okay, 0800DARLS at M. Want you to give us a call? You can text through 9696. What was the... Oh, no, please. No, please, Vaughan. Did you have an unusual
Starting point is 00:57:15 hens or stag do? An unusual stags or hens do because there is a bride who went out the night before, home at 3am, 9am, was on the start line of a marathon, came third. Not my idea of a hens do, but to each their own. We just mentioned a lad's sort of a spa package for a stags do and then we're like, why are we waiting? There have been calls on the text machine for Fletch and Vaughn's Ultimate Dude Spa Weekend
Starting point is 00:57:40 where we organise it and people pay to come along. Where we just kind of like one of those managed travel packages. Yes. Where, you know, they take... But guys, yeah. There's guys out there just so desperate for a lovely relaxing spa weekend, but their partner's always like, I've got to come.
Starting point is 00:57:55 I've got to come. I've got to come. Well, you're actually part of the problem, so you actually need to stay behind and I need to relax with some dudes. Yeah, we're relaxing. This is going to be a stress-free environment. But Hayley's coming. But if it's just for the lads, no, if it's just for the lads, I'm coming, but be a stress-free environment. But Hayley's coming.
Starting point is 00:58:05 If it's just for the lads, I'm coming, but I'll be the stripper. That makes so much sense. Or you've got to dress up like a man. Have I got a dodgy connection in Melbourne? Is that not coming through? Guys, you throw the stags thing, and I'll be the stripper, so I can come.
Starting point is 00:58:20 We're not going to have strippers. We're going to have strippers. I find strippers stressful. They're calling it on the text machine. They're calling for the Vibes and Gumption Spa Weekend. The Vibes and Gumption Spa Weekend. It's going to be a great weekend. The Vibes and Gumption Tour.
Starting point is 00:58:37 More guys need to do spa weekends for their stag do's. Now, Taylor, did you have an unusual hen's do? I did, actually. What did you have an unusual hen stew? I did, actually. What did you do? I wanted to do all of the fun stuff that the boys normally get to do. And so my besties planned a lads by day, ladies by night. I love that.
Starting point is 00:59:09 It wasn't as adventurous as I was thinking because we still had to cater to like a group of girls, but we dressed up as guys, largely based around my husband. So I like drew on a beard and I wore a pair of his shorts and a t-shirt that said fishing makes me happy and like a Bunnings hat. And then we went and played laser tag, we had burgers and beers for lunch, we did an escape room at the end and then we
Starting point is 00:59:34 went back to the accommodation, had some chill time, had some drinks, had some snacks and got dressed up and went out for a lovely dinner. How much of that chill time was your friend scrubbing the vivid off your face that was your friend scrubbing the Vivid off your face that was your beard? Well, it was all makeup, so it was very easy to do.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Oh, okay, good. I was able to do that myself. So I would have used Vivid. While we were chilling, they set up decorations and photos, and yeah, it was lovely. I like that. I like that. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Yeah, and my husband actually wanted to do, because we were talking about it, he's like, I want to go to the vineyard and relax like you guys get to. Yeah, I think we're too in the gender norms when it comes to stag and hens do's, aren't we? Totally agree. We need to just do what makes us happy. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:00:16 And it was great. It was so much fun. Okay. Taylor, brilliant. Thank you. Rachel, did you have an unusual stag do or hens do? Yes, Mana and festival. Long-time listener, first-time caller.
Starting point is 01:00:27 I can feel it. I reached for the bell. Welcome to the show, Rachel. So I started off quite civil, just the normal nibbles, champagne, a few topless waiters, men, at the venue. And then we proceeded to go to Chacapuna and ended up partying with a group of stags. We proceeded to skiddy dip on the beach.
Starting point is 01:00:53 And then the next day, we all jumped off the Harbour Bridge together in tutus. Wait, so the stag do that you met up with wasn't the stag do of the person getting married? No. No, they were complete randoms. Complete randoms who were also Stag do that you met up with wasn't the stag do of the person getting married? No. No, they were complete random. Complete random.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Wow. Oh, my God. Okay. And then you skinny dipped with the strange men. Say that again? And then you skinny dipped with the strange men. What's wrong with skinny dipping with strange men? Yeah, well, you know, late 20s, it's quite acceptable to do. That's horrible.
Starting point is 01:01:26 I don't know if I'd do it, you know. Now? Oh, it's quite acceptable to do. Really cool to do it now if I do it, you know. Now? Oh, Rachel, I won't be told at any age I can't skin a dog. Some people are very anti the stags and hens meeting up, but it's okay when it's not your... Is it? It seems worse if you ask me. I'd say it's completely fine, provided that there's no... Hanky-panky, okay.
Starting point is 01:01:45 And there was no hanky-panky between anybody on that? No, absolutely not. Even like the single gals and the single boys didn't get up to any hankies or pankies? What about one panky? Not that I could see. There was looking, but that's about it. I would at least, I'd hanky. Maybe wouldn't I have panky, but I'd hanky.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Was there insinuated hanky? Or maybe possible panky? Well, it is a bit blurry, the mind. There you go. There was a sprinkler hanky. I feel like we've lost a panky in there somewhere. We've forgotten about a panky. Thank you, Rachel.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Some messages in. Wasn't mine, but had a skiing bike run race, and there was a hens there that was doing it at the same time. They were dressed as cows. Okay. So that's an unusual hen's do. My husband went to the zoo for his stag do. His best man lives in Melbourne, so he went over there,
Starting point is 01:02:33 and they asked him what he wanted to do, and he said, all I want to do is go and see the bear at the zoo and get some good dim sum. And so his stag do was exactly what he wanted. See, that's great. Oh, my God. How cool would that be to get an invitation to that? We're like, we're going to do a bit of yum cha. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:48 And we're going to do some beer. Yep. We're going to go to the zoo for one specific beer. We did steer riding at my stag do. A former mate, sorry, a farmer mate and a rodeo mate made a makeshift pen at his farm in his driveway that was half gravel, half grass. Quite a bit of bleeding by the end of that. It admits you a rodeo?
Starting point is 01:03:05 A steer is a bull with its nuts knocked off. Oh no. Had a stag do the weekend before my wedding. That's never been a stag story. What can go wrong? What can go wrong? Best man played a game of fire soccer.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Where you douse a bull made of hessian and chicken wire and kerosene and we kicked it around. I ended up with a football-shaped burn on my stomach and my father-in-law ended up in hospital after a hot wire nearly took his eye out.
Starting point is 01:03:28 What? God save. That is wild. My hen's weekend, I took my girls hunting. Most of them have never shot a gun, let alone skinned or gutted an animal. Now most of them are quite keen on hunting. Really? Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Oh. Yeah. Because that's quite a, often the stags do, maybe the odd hens do, we do the, what do they call it when you're, clay bird. Clay bird shooting. That's fun. That's a good activity. That's heaps of fun.
Starting point is 01:03:50 But no, these were shooting actual real life animals. Actual real life animals. Well, there you go. Maybe some ideas for your next stag or hens. Yeah. That's a little. Go on. You know, not usual.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Yeah. But left field. And we'll organise our spa weekend tour I think this could be Vibe and gumption spa tour We'll go to all the best spas I'll start practising my stripping Nah
Starting point is 01:04:11 I reckon don't I reckon don't, no Did that come through? Yeah We're losing her We're losing her in Melbourne Hello, hello Look, I'm taking off my jump
Starting point is 01:04:19 Play ZM's Fletch, Bourne and Hayley Fact of the day Day, day, day, day, day. It's Teeth Week at Fact of the Day, and today I'd like to talk about wisdom teeth. Oh, yeah? You've had yours removed, have you? Three.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Three out of four. Is one still in there? I think so. And it didn't cause any trouble? Nah. Okay. Hayley, have you had yours out? I'm two out of four on one side.
Starting point is 01:04:54 That's why I walk with a slight limp. Yeah, because of the weight, extra weight. I've always thought you're a little off kilter. Yeah. And that'll be why. It's the teeth. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:03 I've got all four of mine. No problems. Don't want to break. The sky egg. It wasn't a competition. It wasn't a competition. And that'll be why. It's the teeth. Yeah. I've got all four of mine, no problems. Don't want to brag. It wasn't a competition. It wasn't a competition. Don't want to brag. Did you know, though, that about 35% of people born without one or more of the wisdom teeth? So, you might have
Starting point is 01:05:17 two out and you might have one, but the other one just didn't turn up. That's a possibility. But certain indigenous Mexican groups have no wisdom teeth at all. Interesting. Isn't that fascinating? Mexican groups, especially the Zapotec and the Mixtec people,
Starting point is 01:05:35 it's quite common for them to be missing their wisdom teeth entirely. Believed it's related to a specific gene called PAX9. Right. And it may or may not have, it's an evolutionary adaption. These are left over.
Starting point is 01:05:47 The wisdom teeth is a leftover from when we were hunting together. Because of all the corn chips. Is it all the corn chips? It's the corn chips. I don't need them. Okay. Because it's just another place
Starting point is 01:05:53 for a corn chip to get stuck. Yeah. So they got rid of them. Now we've evolved away from them as we've got more into farming rather than hunting and gathering. Okay. We were hunters and gatherers.
Starting point is 01:06:04 We chewed a lot more so we needed the third set of molars. Yeah. So they were more vital, but as we go to softer food. Yeah. They didn't have jelly back in the day. So if they did. Really missed out on. Oh, those poor bastards, eh?
Starting point is 01:06:19 A life without jelly. Yeah, and they didn't have like real soft flatbreads. Like your tortillas. Yeah, yum. Your naans. I mean, we can all agree the one thing that every culture got right was their contribution towards soft breads. The bread, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:32 The soft breads. Yeah, yeah, yum. Your tortillas, for example. So whilst indigenous Mexican groups don't get their wisdom teeth more than the average, Aboriginal Australians get them more often than not and don't have a problem with them. They'll just pop up right in there.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Because of the genetic trait of Aboriginal Australians, they have a slightly longer jawbone. Okay. So there's fewer impactions. You know, that's the big thing with the wisdom tooth, there's not the room, right? It starts smashing into the molar behind it. Yeah, that's why you've got to get them taken out.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Yeah. So if you're an Aboriginal Australian, you're far less likely to need anything to do with wisdom teeth because they'll just pop up and be problem free. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Isn't that good? Yeah. And you know why? No corn chips. Yeah. Again, it's the corn chips. No corn chips. It was the corn chips.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Always the corn chips. I'm actually in Australia now and they don't have corn chips. Even now they don't have corn chips. Yeah. After all these years, they just know it's a teeth thing. No corn chips. No corn chips. No corn chips.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Yeah. So today's fact of the day is wisdom teeth, different situation for different cultures around the world. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. So yesterday, if you're just joining us, I'm in Melbourne at the moment doing my show for the Comedy Fest. And yesterday I had a podcast. I was doing an interview and I had to catch an Uber quite far out.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I've never been to this part of Melbourne before. And I got a message as I was in the Uber already that they were running behind. And I was like, well, I'm already kind of nearly there. I don't want to pester them. So I got out of my Uber near the studio. Yep. And I spotted a park bench. And I thought, you know what?
Starting point is 01:08:35 I could sit there quietly and just sort of absorb the Melbourne surroundings. Okay. So I go to this bench. I sit down. And I think I'm just like playing on my phone. So when I say absorb nature in the surround, I'm on Instagram. You're not looking at any nature at all.
Starting point is 01:08:52 No, no, no, not at all. So I'm sitting there, I'm playing on my phone, and then I feel a presence near me. Okay. And it's by a bin on the corner of the street. I sort of look, and I see an unhomed gentleman who is just going about his day and, you know, having
Starting point is 01:09:10 a little rummage in the bin. And I thought, okay, that's you know, that's great. Good for you. But I noticed he has this kind of basket with a handle and it's all kind of wrapped up and I was like, well, okay, interesting. I go about my business.
Starting point is 01:09:26 You know, I've got Instagram reels to watch. I've got nature to absorb. Yeah. But then I start to, he takes off his top. So he's now shirtless. He takes off his top. Okay. And he kind of puts it over the basket
Starting point is 01:09:38 and is kind of trying to like cradle something within the T-shirt. He's trying to really like pick it up like this. I was like, what is he doing? And I didn't want to stare. So I'm doing that sort of occasional look. What's he up to here? And she's shirtless and he's cradling this thing. And then I hear a little squeak.
Starting point is 01:09:59 And I was like, what is in that basket? And he picks it up and he's carrying it like it is like gentle, like a really delicate thing. He's picking it up. I swear, I hear a squeak and it hits me in my brain. That's, I think he's got a kitten
Starting point is 01:10:17 and I think he's about to put it in the bin. Now, you know that Mike, well, I've got a rubbish bag cat, you know, he was dropped off to a rescue place and in a bin, I've got a rubbish bag cat, you know. He was dropped off to a rescue place in a bin. I also have a rubbish bag cat. Fletch, do you want to weigh in on what kind of bag your cat came in? A Louis Vuitton bag?
Starting point is 01:10:34 No, it was a carrier cage. Your cat came in a Birkin. Yeah, it was a Birkin. It was a Birkin cat. It was a Birkin. It was a Birkin. Yeah. Only the best of Murray. Exactly. So I start to panic, right? I was like, oh, my God,. It was a Birkin cat. Yeah, it was a Birkin cat. It was a Birkin. It was a Birkin. Yeah. Only the best of Murray.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Exactly. So I start to panic. I was like, oh my God, I can't believe this is happening. And I've got to go to this podcast thing now. I've given them enough leeway. I think I'm just going to have to cancel that. I'm going to have to intervene. I'm going to have to go in.
Starting point is 01:10:57 I'm going to have to get this kitten. And then I'm going to have to work out where the local rescue place is. This is my whole day now has turned around. And I just think this is abhorrent. I just think it's so bad. So I text my friend and I go, oh my God, I can't believe this. This is happening whole day now has turned around. And I just think this is abhorrent. I just think it's so bad. So I text my friend and I go, oh my God, I can't believe this. This is happening right now.
Starting point is 01:11:09 What shall I do? Just seeking some advice, some encouragement. And they were like, stop him. You've got to stop him. Think of the cat. And I did. I got up off my seat. I was so nervous.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Got up off my seat and I said, excuse me, sir. You better not be putting that cat into that bin. And he looks at me. He was completely shocked. Shocked and shirtless, remember? Shocked and shirtless. He looks at me and he was like, I'll do with it whatever I want. And I was like, what?
Starting point is 01:11:34 I know. He goes, he chucks this thing in the bin, like, boof, like this. And I go, like this. And he runs off. And I was like, that's it. But I was like, cat first. Cat first before I attack this man with my mortal combat yeah so I went cat first
Starting point is 01:11:48 I reach my hands into this really full grotty Melbourne street rubbish bin and I pick up the bundle and I unwrap it expecting this cute little kitten that was obviously going to take my heart and have to put it through quarantine to bring it back to New Zealand yeah it was it was like it was
Starting point is 01:12:03 it was a stuffed cat-like toy. With a squeaker in it. It was just a stuffed sort of bad-looking cat toy that squeaked. Right. But he was carrying it like it was a cat. Oh, yeah. He may have believed it was. He may have believed it was. He may have believed it was.
Starting point is 01:12:27 But like, I've got to tell you, the rescue mission, like how I felt picking this thing up and being like, I've saved its life. I'm its mother. And it was just like, meh. Just a stupid. And where's this man by now? Has he run away?
Starting point is 01:12:42 He's hoofed. Dude, he's far up the street. He's gone. Probably off to drop off the next one. He had a basket of them. Oh, it was the most bizarre reaction. Distributing these old cat toys into bins around. Do you think he was a bit like not all there?
Starting point is 01:12:58 Do you think he thought that they were his? Oh, he definitely wasn't all there. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I just think he was maybe, it felt like performance art maybe. And I just really, and I was also really looking forward to like arriving at the podcast being like, you're not going to believe what I just did. I stopped to cry. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:11 But I suppose I sort of didn't. Also, the way I think about all of these things now is you're probably going to be on someone's TikTok. Like this was all set up with hidden cameras. Yeah, that's good. Cool. And it's going to be like crazy lady stops, you know. No, I think if it was all set up for TikTok, then I've actually done the right thing.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Will she say anything? Oh, we've noticed she's noticed I'm putting the thing in the bin. Well, I think I did the right thing regardless. And you know what? I mean, I did abandon the software in the bin. It was trash. Right. Okay, so you didn't save anything.
Starting point is 01:13:41 No saving. So did I stop a crime? I'm kind of. Did I save anything? Not. Z So did I stop a crime? Kind of. Did I save anything? Not. ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. What makes people good in bed? A study.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Okay. Has found what people like, what makes them good. And it's not Hayley's giant bang behind her. That's where you say hello, I think, Georgia. Well, hello. Well, I don't know, you know. Is it worth it? She just paused. Georgia doesn't even look at, I think, Georgia. Oh, hello. Well, I don't know. You know, is it worth it? She just paused. Georgia doesn't even look
Starting point is 01:14:08 at Fletch. You missed the natural in. Oh, okay. Don't call me out for things. Don't pawn your natural misses on me. Oh, you're a natural. You missed the natural in. I will miss it every now and then in the natural out. A study has looked at what makes people good in the bedroom. Yeah. We'll dance around this,
Starting point is 01:14:24 you know, in case there are little ears. Yeah, we will. Dancing around is actually one of the things that makes you good in the bedroom. Yeah. We'll dance around this, you know, in case there are a little ears. Yeah, we will. Dancing around is actually one of the things that makes you good in the bedroom. Is it? Naked. No, it's not. With a naked dance around.
Starting point is 01:14:31 No, it's not. Okay. But people want to see a study like this, right, and be like, hell yeah, man. I'm about to get some hot tips. They're going to break it down in moves for me. Well, there's nine points. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:43 One, confidence and communication 90% of women value a man who can take the lead but also listens and responds to their preferences yes yes yes
Starting point is 01:14:52 and and reacting to their feedback of verbal and non-verbal yes yes yes I'm gonna need
Starting point is 01:14:59 I'm gonna need yep I'm gonna need the verbal feedback I can't read mine so I don't know I think the look on the face will give you that. Oh, you're saying the look on the face.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Right, right. Point two. Creativity and variety. 86% of women appreciate new positions and switching up the rhythm. Okay. What was that? I've got a message. It's the Garmin.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Don't start with me. What do you mean? Don't you start with me. It's found some fish. Guys, it's the vibration. No, she's within. It's the Garmin. Don't start with me. What do you mean? Don't you start with me. It's found some fish. Guys, it's the vibration. No, she's within 100 metres of the goal pole. George, his watch just went. It got excited when you said be creative.
Starting point is 01:15:35 God, that's really aggressive. I'm sorry, your watch is so aggressive, George. Pipe down, you lot. Has this filth talked your heart rate up? And it's like, are you having a cardiac episode? I feel like having a Garmin watch, you're part of a cult, eh? It's very cult-y. Yeah, that was the buzz.
Starting point is 01:15:50 They should all need to report to the temple. Oh my God, it won't stop vibrating. What are you doing to me? I know. Calm down. Take a breath, Georgia. That's some feedback for you, number one. Point three, physical fitness in the form of stamina,
Starting point is 01:16:01 90% want energy and endurance, not necessarily a sculpted body. Oh yeah, no, no, no. So he skipped the gym today then? Nah. Yeah, go on. And most don't mind how fast it finishes as long as he stays engaged afterwards. And what, sticks around and finishes his aforementioned task.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Gotcha. Fourth point, talk dirty in moderation. 74% prefer simple respectful dirty talk. Smashing tits, love. Well, do we want to be told that? That was simple and respectful dirty talk.
Starting point is 01:16:36 It worked for me. I'm going to say it worked for me. It seems like you're trying to be posh about them. Well, that was respectful. My idea of being respectful is being posh. 53% dislike over-the-top or crude comments. Okay. So you want to run that beforehand.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Like that one you previously just said. No, that was respectful dirty talk. It felt over-the-top. Okay. Foreplay is 0.5. Okay. 86% of women say it's crucial. Don't skip it.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Even simple things like a smoochy warm-up matters. Okay. Yes, smoochy warm-up. Yeah. Six, say there's... I want to say when I've read this study previously and then you started, Vaughan, by saying, I've got nine points as I reckon.
Starting point is 01:17:19 I was like, I reckon don't read them all out. Yeah, because some of them are a bit risque. Skip that one. Skip that one. Would you say out of all of them, the biggest one would be the confidence one? Totally. Confidence and communication? And communication, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:32 So hot. And actually, we've had Morgan in studio, right? Morgan Penn, sexologist. She always says communication is like the biggest thing. And aftercare is the other big one. Cuddling and emotional presence post-sex is meaningful for the majority of participants. Yeah, it's like Fletch is someone who doesn't love to cuddle.
Starting point is 01:17:52 I love cuddles. You need to step up there. I love cuddles. Don't say I don't love cuddles. I love cuddles. You don't cuddle me. Yeah, I don't want your hugs. You're always wanting like, you're like, see ya,
Starting point is 01:18:02 I'm going to the cafe, let's have a hug. I'm like, no, you get a hug pre and post holiday. I'll miss you while I'm getting coffee. No, we do hugs like twice a year. That's enough for you. That's enough. Okay, just a small digression before we finish the perfect show that critics are saying. Five stars.
Starting point is 01:18:20 Are saying five stars. Yeah. I believe I read the words tour de force. Yeah, I've got a little trick that you'll see online soon. The words you read were Tour de France. It was a cycle race. Yeah. No, I think they said Tour de Force.
Starting point is 01:18:35 I went to an adult fun toy factory yesterday where they, like the distribution centre, and I've been showing the boys. I went home, I had to catch a train in Melbourne with two huge bags of goodies. Wow, the next season of Sex, Not Life, the podcast is going to be wild. Yeah, it is. Let's just say. Two bags of goodies.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Yeah, yeah, look, I can't bring both of them home. It's far too much. It's far too much. Yeah, hard to explain to customs. I might scatter them throughout the streets of Melbourne. Why don't you put a stall up on the streets of Melbourne and sell these bad boys? I could be a toy merchant.
Starting point is 01:19:13 You actually could. Or use them as props in your comedy show. Yeah, and just chuck them out like a lolly scramble. Like a prize. Yeah, a prize. Yeah, you could put them under seats. Under seats and be like, guess what? It's Oprah night. Everybody check under your seats. Some, you could put them under seats. Under seats and be like, guess what? It's Oprah night.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Everybody check under your seats. Some of you are getting some stuff. Yeah. Maybe not the ones you've opened. Maybe the ones that are still wrapped up. Yeah, not that one you showed us before. It's a hygiene issue. That was scary.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Georgia and her fancy watch, her garment, are up next. Oh, my gosh. You just called it fancy. Sweetie, do it like. She can't do sarcasm. Remember, like. She can't do sarcasm. Remember guys, she can't do sarcasm. Is that the podcast done? Because I'm blasting for a poos.
Starting point is 01:19:52 Blasting for a poos. Jesus. Give us a review. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.

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