ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - August 20th 2025

Episode Date: August 19, 2025

Calling dinner guests to check if they're on weightloss drugs The NFL is getting male cheerleaders SLP - Does a friend owe you money? Vaughan's hack sucks Top 6 ways to get kiwis to have more babies Legging aren't cool anymore Cassie Henderson IV Sam from Bluebridge What was your weird birthday party theme? Alex Warren IV Oversaving is just as bad as overspending Fact of the Day What did you learn later in life?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

From the ZM podcast network. This is Fleshwin and Haley's Big Pod. Brought to you by Chemist Warehouse. The biggest brands at the lowest prices. ZM's Fleshworn and Haley. Thank you, Britain. Good morning, Fletch Worn and Haley. Welcome to the show.

Six minutes past six. What's up? Big show today. A couple of guests joining us on the show today. Alex Warren, Alex Warren, after 8 o'clock this morning. And before that, Cassie Henderson. who opened for him, playing in Auckland. He had lovely things to say about her, didn't he?

Very lovely things to say about her. And also at the moment, she's on, This is the voice. In Australia. It goes just like that. That was really good. You should be on the toys. Yeah, I will.

And that's all I'll sing for my audition. Right. So, yeah, Cassie Henderson, just after seven, and Alex Warren just after eight. And secret sounds, seven o'clock, eight o'clock, $25,000. is the current jackpot for secret sound Also, we asked Alex Warren what he thinks the secret sound is

His guess was so good It was a good guess I mean we obviously couldn't tell him Because we don't know But you were vibe in it But when he said it I was like That's good Somebody needs to guess his guess

At midday Just to cross it off the list Or at some stage when people can get through We also have an update on Herman the German You're right, this is a big fat show It's a big fat show Big fatty on our hands The top six

So if we need Kiwis to have more babies No, thank you Shock, I'm not No, thanks I've already done two. Born Center, you've done that three of us I'm with it, I'm 36 soon This is the one time I'd like to claim

that I'm too old to do something Right, well you are You'd be now considered The geriatric pregnancy Yeah, which was actually Don't chuck those words my way Don't you and dear Well, you wanted it

You just literally said I want to say I'm too old for something I say geriatric pregnancy You're like not the G word Curiatric Not the G word Which was actually my Rock West Band names by Rock West Band, a geriatric pregnancy. Oh, yeah, that's good. That's good. We've made it through the original finals, but that's where

I dream ended. So I've got the top six ways to get Kiwis to have more babies. It's coming up in the top six. Next on the show, there's some new dinner etiquette. If you're hosting a dinner party. Oh, okay. Is it cheese balls? No, but they are always a mask. Do you know that? Play ZM's, Flashbourne and Haley. Well, with everybody seemingly now using weight loss jabs, like Osempic, there's Monsirno,

Wigovee, and this story Labubu Lubbubu's. No, that's not a Wabia menorah. Yeah, Labor Mora. That's one of them, eh?

No, Labia Maduro makes you gain weight. Yes, Menaura is the smaller one. Well, they reckon about 1.5 million Brits are using OZempec. How many Brits are there? That's a big percentage.

40, are there 40-odd million Brits? British population. It's a lot in a little country. 69. Nice. Well, they reckon 1.5 million Brits are using Ozempack. I mean, Americans, it must be in the millions. Oh, yeah, God, yeah.

And apparently now they're saying there is a new bizarre dinner party etiquette rule for 2025. Yeah. And that is where you have to check which guests are coming to your dinner party are on OZemper or one of these weight loss drugs because they're not going to eat much. And so people are saying dinner parties are so. hard and they're being ruined because half the people just don't eat much like you talk to anyone on these weight loss jabs and it just absolutely

it crushes your appetite right and then you and then if you were to try to eat a bigger meal you make yourself a bit sicky I think you know a bit quees you feel a bit yuck so that's 2.2 percent of the population

overall population that includes children that includes senior citizens that includes everybody oh you wouldn't put NAN on OZN pick. Let NAN die fat. Nguer, or she's either fat and love and life, she's going to die fat in love and life. Or she's one of those nans, like my nan became just picking it half a muffin.

I know, and they scorn out. Yeah, yeah. Naturally. Yeah, you wouldn't be putting a nan on OZN. Most people kind of agree with this rule, though, that you should call ahead or message ahead or message in the group chat just to be like, you know, because you need to organize your food, whether it's a pot, like, or if you're providing all the food for you at this dinner.

Yeah, so catering for eight is now more like catering for six. You know what I mean? Well, that's if a couple of people are on. On the jabs. But of half or more are, you probably don't need a lot. Isn't that just crazy? Big salad, roast chute. You know what I mean?

That sounds like a good time. Some gravy. Yeah, gravy. Like four potatoes. Or what are they going to, what about going to the house of someone on a jab? Oh. You know what I mean? and then they are hosting the food

and they're going to be under catering. So in this study, 18% of people that are injecting themselves say that they can't enjoy wine or cocktails anymore. Really? Yeah, and that's the same. Like, some people have said this as well about the food, like it just goes for them completely.

Do you know, I remember a friend of mine was looking into these. It makes it sound, I've just paused too much. It makes it sound like I was looking into them. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, this friend of mine. This friend of mine, I wasn't. It was a friend of mine. But they were also a smoker.

And the doctor was like, this will help you curb your cravings for alcohol. Yeah, it's fair. Like, last week we had that, we talked to Johann Hari, who's written a whole book about it. He's on it. He went on it and interviewed like 250 people about Ozempic and weight and lost drugs. So if you missed that podcast last week, it's fascinating chat. Oh, yeah, so good. Yeah, great author.

So, yeah, but it does. It kind of crushes your appetite. But a lot of people are like, it can make you feel flatter in life. Just in general, you don't have a lot of vivaciousness. I feel like it's kind of starting in New Zealand now. So it must be aware of if you're having a dinner party. No, absolutely. Don't bother coming in the future.

Don't. Maybe you long. To my dinner party if you're a vegan. Yeah. Or on Ozempick. But you love. But I'll be offended. But I'll be offended.

You love leftovers, though. I do love leftovers. I send people home with meat bags. I know. With meat bags. Yeah. Bags are meat. Yeah.

What do you, oh no, no, thank you. You know, should of the... First of all, I'd be insulted you weren't filling up your plate. Secondly, I'd be insulted when you turned your nose up at my meat bag. Sometimes your meat bag. Sometimes your meat bag is an appealing vaughn. Yeah, actually. It's all the meat in one big bag.

I'll be turning my nose up at your meat bag, actually. Play Z-M's, Fletch Vaughn and Haley. Well, people are aghast at the Minnesota Vikings team in the NFL. the National Football League. Just Lizzo's team. Remember Lizzo's? Is it? Remember Lizzo talked about dating a guy

and the Minnesota Vikings in her song. Oh, there you go. That's right. And not just the Minnesota Vikings, but a lot of teams. Yeah, but in particular, the Minnesota Vikings kicked it off,

announcing that Blaze Sheik and Louis Con. Dude, what, who's was that, Blaise Sheik? Blaze Sheik and Louis Con will become the first male cheerleaders in the history. of the NFL after the Minnesota Vikings cheerleader squad

was named for the 2025 season I thought to boys men's cheerleading was massive in the States it is but the sport NFL cheerleaders are more dancers than our like flipping, spiking of desire for

all the men right? Yeah right so more dance based than you know bring it on cheerleaders because heaps of men in cheerleading yeah yeah because they do the chucking they're the bif The girls do the flippling. They're the bait. Whereas this is you straight up think

Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders who have made this kind of cheerleading very, very popular with their Netflix series. Yeah. So two boys on the squad this year. And the Trump voters are not loving those. No, they're not. Yeah, look, it's another culture war, isn't it?

Blaze chic? Blaze chic. Can I... Excuse me if my assumption is incorrect, but this sounds like how you... A homosexual moniker. Yes, indeed. It doesn't sound like anybody was born with the name,

B-A-S-Sheet. Man, that's a cool name. Yeah, Blase, B-L-A-I-Z-E. I like that they did post and say, wait, did someone say our name? Like, they're just like, I guess they're just loving it. Yeah, so they're getting a lot of snapback online from MAGA. I'd say outright hate, Haley.

I'd say outright, like, filthy language. Yeah, I'll say homophobia. I'll say, yeah, gender inequality. Anyway, so, yeah, they've been in a lot And yeah, they just came back and they were like, this is so stupid, like it's dancing, calm down. Like, you can still look at the gals, the gals are still there, there's just a couple of lads.

And now there's a number of other teams that are adding men to the mix. Who cares? It's great, dance. Entertain us. My favourite are the people that are calling this out that are then getting called out themselves. Like former actor Kevin Sorboe, what was he in?

Hercules, he was in. And that's it. And, well, no, he was in Mets. the Spartans in 2008 where often ranked one of the worst films ever made where he kissed a man in that movie Oh my God's okay

Yeah and he said I've been a Vikings fan all my life Sine I guess I need a new team now Everyone's like dude you kiss a dude Also it's got nothing to do with the sport It's got like it's just dancing It's entertainment Why would like that Because Dean Kane was Superman

In the 90s Yeah TV series he's a piece of shit too yeah he's a right he's joined ice yeah which is a shame because I used to love Lois and Clark oh

I used to love that TV show huge fan were you Terry Hatcher that the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders will be adding because that that's the

that's the crim de la Crem the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders now she's made our girls made her

appearance Faith Ward our Kiwi gal the first Kiwi to make the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders and I'll tell you what if you missed our chat

with her she was talking about the fact that she had a ponytail. And in Dallas Cowboy, we don't ponytail. We're down with the big blowout. We've had pigtails. But she debuted with her ponytail. Thus, making history. So we've got a Kiwi breaking your ground.

That's really good. Put it on. That's what we do. We climb mountains, we break ground. I was going to say. We're climb mountains. We first give females the vote. And we were a ponytail when we debut our Dallas cheerleaders. Get her on the note. Get her on. Play. ZM. Fletch Forne and Haley

Fletchforn and Haley Silly Little Poe It is so silly, silly, silly, silly that a silly little pooh, silly little pooh, silly little pooh, silly little pooh, silly little pooh. Petit Saint-Denje di Rue today. Oh, what's he trying here? What are you doing? What was that?

Silly little pole. Silly little paul. Petit is little. Idiot, I guess, is silly. Sondage must be Paul. Is that French, is it? Yeah, Petit is Sondage diard. Today, just trying to bring a bit of culture to the show.

Yeah, I didn't like it. You didn't like it. Yeah. I might try German tomorrow. Yeah. That'll sound angry. I will. I could say, I reckon the show could do with a dash of brown.

I reckon we add a little bit of a... Maybe some Spanish tomorrow. Yeah, beautiful, yes. Sepapie. Spaniol. Does a friend currently owe you money? 84% of you said no. 16% of you said yes.

I've got a couple of proverbs to run past you about what happens if a friend owes you money. Okay, great. And because I knew that there was a saying. Okay. It's, uh, if you lend some money and lose both, consider it a bargain. Yeah, because they're out of your life.

Yeah. You know, I mean, unless they owe you $100,000, that would be harder to swallow it. Yeah, if you lend someone. $20 and never see them again it was worth it but you wouldn't say if you lend someone $20 million and never see them again it would be worth it that wouldn't be worth it yeah who's

lending a friend $20 and then caring about it like my 100 sure but 20 like my dad always said to me only lend money that you're happy to lose that's another great sign it's such a good saying that is a good saying here some other bitter because apparently this is a bittersweet wisdom saying okay

experience as a hard teacher she gives the test first and the lesson afterwards yeah that's nice that's nice if you Want to know a person's true character, watch how they treat someone who can do nothing for them. Oh, yeah, I like that. That's good. That's good. Sometimes you win, sometimes you learn.

Yeah. So it takes the lose out of it. That's a negative. Sometimes you win, sometimes you learn. No, you can lose. You can lose, but you learn from your losses. Let's see if those sayings are any kind of sweet relief or release for the people that have lost money to their friends. Okay.

I'm still cut up from lending my cousin, 20 cents back in the 90s for an arcade when he promised to pay me back, and he's still refusing to pay me back today. interest inflation inflation and interest pretty look at a couple hundred now yeah Ellie says don't owe me money but I owe my I don't know me money but I owe my friend money for the

Lewis Capote concert oh so they said they don't Right That was a long ago Let's pay up for that now Yeah when was that Or is it coming No coming

Oh coming He's coming maybe they purchased No no no you're to think about Last time No no right That was a very long time ago Yeah I was gonna say Yes my friend owes me

$500 says, Vicky, it's so awkward because he keeps saying after this event, I'll start paying you back, then something else comes up, it's never ending, it's mentally draining, because I can't stop thinking about it. And then you see them out on their stories, and they're either on a holiday, or

they're drinking, or they're out doing something. New jacket, you're like, excuse you. But this is why you don't lend people money. Again, or like you, if you're happy to lose it, that's same. If you're happy to lose it. Fine. Whatever. Jesse said $1,400.

currently I owe my friends. No. As the official ticket buyer in the group, in the friend group, says Sheldon, after getting screwed over too many times, if you haven't paid me by the time the ticket's on sale, too bad. Oh, yeah, okay. If they're not buying the tickets. Yeah, we've got a pretty good friend group when it comes to that,

everyone pays up pretty quickly. Yeah, same with like big dinners and stuff. Yeah. Rachel said a friend of mine was doing it really hard, so I lent her $300 making it very clear it was a loan to stop her from losing her rental. then I found out she used it on other illicit things that I didn't know she was doing

and now she lives in her car and she's trying to scam others into helping her. You see, this is the problem you don't know what people are doing with the money. You don't know what they're doing with the money. Rebecca said no one owes me money, but I do owe a friend money. Let's get on to that then.

Let's get on to it. Yeah, my friend had the audacity to drop dead while owning me $100. This is forever in his debt, says Katie. I would have been contesting a will. This would be an emphasis. sort of curb your enthusiasm. What's like that?

I was going to get my money. I was really going to money. Fon cows and dies, I'm like 100 bucks. Contest a will to get the 100 bucks back. Yeah, 100%. Oh. Hannah said usually, yes.

I bankroll our partnership activities. No house, no kid, no partner, so I'm the one with disposable income. Right. That doesn't mean you should be bankrolled. They should be paying you. Maybe paying you back. There's contraception available.

Do you know what I mean? That's all I'm saying. So they've got capital. They've got a capital investment. You've got nothing. Yeah. But cash. Tegan said, not a friend, but an X from nine years ago.

I'm never getting that back, am I? No. I don't think you're not, Tegan, sorry. He did it just to write that off so you never have to see them all talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And George said, no, a friend doesn't owe me money because we're no longer friends because they owe me money. Yeah.

Again, don't lend these people money. If they need a loan, they can go get one. And if they can't get a loan, there's a reason why they can't get a loan. And then you probably shouldn't have lent the money in the first place. Yeah. Actually, you should do a credit check on your friends. If you're going to loan a little credit check. Hey, could you front me 50 bucks?

I'm just a bit short. Yeah, but I'm just going to run a quick credit check. Well, we asked Insular Little Poll today, does a friend currently owe you money? And 84% of you said no. Play ZM's Fletch Born and Haley. Play ZM's Fletch Born and Haley. Now, Fletch and I have both been out of action of the gym recently because we're injured.

Okay. Seriously injured. Well, I had shoulder surgery. seriously injured. Yeah, and I tweaked my back. Just sort of tweaked it a little bit. And you were told, no. No gym for six weeks.

And we were talking yesterday about how we've been feeling like, ugh, sluggish and whatnot. And then I stayed at Fletcher's last night in the spare room. And we decided we're going to go to the gym together and we were going to walk on the treadmill, like good boys and girls.

What a good boy and a good girl? Yeah, just to be like... Because you... We moved. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's not like high impact or... Yeah. Yeah.

We're not allowed. It was raining. It would be nice to go for a walk, but we'll like, we'll go to you, we'll do the treadmills instead. Yeah, we'll have a look around. Yeah. From the treadmill. And, um, Vaughan, you suggested to us that to make it more entertaining, we should do

your cardio hack, which is watch television shows. Yeah. Yeah. Watch streaming shows on a device as you do cardio and it makes you kind of feel. forget you're doing cardio. No, it's so boring. It was the most tedious hour. I watched Diary of the CEO.

No, no, no, no. I watched an episode of Shameless. Oh, okay, that would have been alright. No, it was so boring. We were so bored. We kept looking at each other and being like, this is so boring. I think you need music.

Have we tried music? You get back on the day. Like, I did K-pop. I've done a couple of K-pop workouts lately. That would get you going? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's, it's action. It's, you know, it's beats per minute.

Yeah, no, TV shows are good. Action movies and action-based TV shows are better. Right. But, yeah, because you can't get any kind of like energy going. But if you're on the treadmill beside each other, why were you just talking? About what? About what? Like, we see each other all day.

Right, yeah, literally spent all day to get yesterday. Right. You could have synced up and watched the same thing. So you could have been discussing it as you kind of weird to it. I don't know how you do it. You even work out watching TV shows. Like, you'll be one. and stuff. Yeah, I can't. That's madness.

Oh, not as much. I need, like, heavy or big or, like, energetic music to even get me walking on the treadmill. We were doing an old lady walk. We did look cute. For an hour, we did an old lady walk side by side. Two percent inclined.

Oh, yes, the inclined. I was going faster than Haley's old one. What were you going? I was 5.8, he was six point something. That wasn't charring on the shoulder. No, it was good. Yeah, we was, he was, like he was walking like this. He had his arms sort of braced against himself

to sort of lock it in place. Yeah. He looked silly. I'll say it. I looked silly. He did look silly. But you're, um, you're still not allowed to go back full gym? I don't know, yeah.

I don't know yet. Right. I got the physio clear sign off yesterday. Go back to it. Okay. No dead lifts, but full gym. Right. So, and I'll be, I'll be looking from the weights up at old grandpa here.

I do. I don't know old old man wall. Listening to his podcast. ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Haley From the Fletchworn and Haley group chat This is the Top Six Now look we've got an ageing population Aging

I said not Asian Aging Aging I just heard it come out of my mouth I said I need to go back and reiterate that I said Aging Quite a problem around the world though isn't it It is because we're living longer Yeah and you need the younger people

Working paying the taxes to support the older people In the 70s there were seven people aged between 15 and 64, your working age. Seven. Seven of them for every one. I thought there was more. If you both, shut your mouths. God, I would have expected there was more than just seven.

There were seven people in the working age group for every one I aged over 65. Right. Today, there are four, and in 50 years there's going to be two. Oh, okay, that's, yeah, we're not getting our Kiwi Saber, right? It does, and right now it doesn't feel like it. We're not going to get the government part of it. We'll have our Kiwi saver, but we're. We're not getting any money, eh?

Not the free stuff, though. No, it's going to be used up. But I'm only 30 years away. Fertility rate has been 1.57 births per woman, but the replacement rate is 2.1. What are you sniggering at? He's got a text message. Did I get the text message?

No, I got on my watch and it just made me laugh. But I'll share it later. That's not an on-air text. It's an off-air situation. those. So basically how our tax system and everything works is the largest part of the outgoings isn't

job seeking, isn't even health. It's old people. Beneficiary. It's beneficiaries. Patsy Sprout. It's Ian and Christine Smith. Yeah. It's John and Bev, yeah. Bleeding us dry. It's not my dad yet next year though. Well, you know, he's get in there.

Yeah, get in there. Dad's another one. We've got to support. And that's a massive part of it. So for that to continue working, we've got to keep having babies. Okay, well, not me. Is it a system that can last forever? No. It's not, but until someone comes up

with robots that can do it all for us, I guess we need it. So I've got the top six ways to get Kiwis to have more babies. Okay. Number six on the list, don't tell them about the crying. Don't tell the people who haven't had the babies about the crying. I feel like everyone already knows. No.

They should only be allowed to talk to the people who have the babies that don't cry. Okay. Number five on the list of the top six ways to get Kiwis to have more babies. Make the nappies cheaper. Yeah. The nappies aren't cheap. Number four on the list of the top six ways to get Kiwis to have more babies. Don't tell them about the lack of sleep.

Don't tell them that their precious sleep cycle will be completely disrupted, perhaps, in perpetuity. Nothing's getting in the way of my eight hours, delicious sleep. Nothing. Nothing. Same. Precious to me. Okay. What time did you get to bed last night?

1130.30. What time did you wake up? 4.30 a. I've told you so many times sleep is a fundamental base of health. I'm thriving. I'm thriving. I'm healthy. You're sick again. I am well. You're sick again for the second time this month.

Well, that's good because I won't make it to old age. And be a burden on the government. Thank you. Number three on the list of the top six ways to get curious to have more babies. Tell them about getting to watch Bluey episodes in a couple of years. Oh, you like you, Bluey, don't you? Love Bluey. Always got a great.

So we haven't seen an episode. It's really so many good episodes. Number two on the list of the top six guys to get Kiwi's to have more babies. Tell them about getting to finish all the leftover food. Oh. Like, the kids just don't finish it. Like, there's a sucky pouch over on the table in the corner of the room. It makes me so much when you see kids that go out with their parents for dinner

and they don't eat what they've ordered. It's like, why'd you order that? Yeah, and it's only ever chicken tenders or nuggets. Yeah. And they still can't finish it. I'm grateful. It's delicious chicken nuggets. Give them.

Yum. I'll finish them. And number one on the list of the top six ways to get Kiwi's to have. more babies, do not, under any circumstance, tell them about the cost. God, almighty. Daycare. See you later, however many hours you have to work in the week to pay for your kids. Daycare just for you to have the pleasure to go back to work.

Some wonder anyone can afford them. Yeah. Well, they can't, and that's why they're not having them. And that's how there's not going to be the babies to pay the taxes to keep the old people alive later on. So anyway, all great news here. Capitalism was fun while it lasted. That is today's top. X-M's Fletchbourne and Haley.

Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley. Absolute shocking news from the fashion world. And Gen Z's to blame. Oh, I feel like you're just... Poor Carwin. No, Carwin, Shannon, you ought to blame. Stop putting the shit on me. You know what?

Blame the skinny younger Gen Z, not us cussing millennials. Stop taking away the things that we love and making them uncool like gym leggings. Think your Lulu lemons, you're tight, to the ankle, stretchy, a hug of the thighs. And we wore these to the gym.

For years we've worn leggings to the gym. Still wearing them to the gym. Still wearing them to the gym. And then we started wearing them on the street. And we made it street wear and we said, we're going to wear leggings everywhere we go, even if we're not working out. Fine, comfy, great.

Make my booty, make my tush. Look, mua. Now apparently, leggings are done. Oh, no. And Gen Z. But leggings were only just reaching the crescendo of them but ones. They go, boi. Maybe those were the death of the leggings.

Yeah. They had to do with a legion. Well, come on, Hon. Okay, how's about this headline from the Wall Street Journal? You're a boomer if you wear leggings. Oh, wow. You're a boomer if you wear leggings. And now, Gen Z's, they're reaching for the baggy track pant.

You know? Thank you. Thank you, big, Addie Des. What is that fabric, though? It was big in, like, the late 80s 90, Taslan track suits. Yeah. No. No.

What were they called? Yeah, no. Taslon. They're not the baggy track pants. Are they the thing? Yeah, but like this, yeah, like the old original 80s. The low waist is back. And the low waist is not back.

Tell that to my underbelly button area. Oh, hey, listen, I am proud to be Gen Z a lot of the time. It makes me feel young. You guys keep me hip. It's cool. Thank you. But. Wait, was that an underhanded compliment?

Yes, it was. Okay, yeah, okay, carry on. We're letting that slip. But this is where I'll side with the millennials. Yeah. I wouldn't go as far as a jigging. We're not back yet. We're not jigging.

We're not jigging for a long time. But I am here for a tight workout legging. I'm seeing this all over the street. The girlies are wearing a low-rise, loose track pant. And then a tight top. And a tight top. Are we talking about that fabric like the Canterbury ones? You know those.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A little. No. As you walk. That's not good. Yeah, they make that annoying noise. How embarrassing. They wrestle.

And also, horrible to work out in. Horrible hot. Oh my goodness. My thighs would eat that. My. I am working that. Munch up those pants. No, no, no, no.

I can't. It's way too hot. What are you staying with leggings or shorts? I'm staying with, I wear shorts and I'm wearing them. And I wear tight shorts. Is it young people wearing? Yeah. Yeah.

Well, they haven't hit the fooper age yet. This is what I'm saying. We need to be cradling the fooper as we work out. Yeah. The foo needs its own support And you do that with a pair of high-wasted tight Lulu Lemmings Yeah, yeah

It holds the foop Lemmacks It's the bra for the foop It is the fooops But you've been buying your jueps So now what How's the foop in the jupe? The foop actually is held quite well by the jupe

The hoop on the jupe is great That's fine Okay How am I supposed to show off My workout skills With a baggy pants With a baggy pant You can't do my tight bum

The fruits of my labour Exactly. You want to see it going up and down. I'm not baggy track panning. And I'm certainly not low-wasting. No. Certainly not at the gym. I think that's the generational divide now.

You know how it used to be like 9-11? Were you before or after? Now it's, are you low-rise or high-rise? I'm not expecting 9-11 to pop up in this chair. Neither, no. I remember when the second tower went down, but it feels different to track pan. It feels slightly different. How do we get from Fupa to 9-11?

I'm confused. And then we're joined by Alex Warren. We caught up with him before his show last night at the town hall. We did, and we were listening as we were getting ready for our interview to Cassie Henderson's sound check. And Cassie's here in studio. Good morning. Hello, how you going? How was last night?

Are you tired at all? Yeah, I'm a little tired. I can't believe you guys get up this early every day. Well, a crippling mortgage leaves your little choice, Cassie. We're here to pay off debt. Before our interview, what we could hear you, and we were like, Oh, what's that? Alex Warren had lovely things to say about you.

We were like, is that Cassie? We could hear you singing. And he was like, isn't she amazing? Oh, my God. I was like, I know. Give it time. I was like, we'll never see her again. She'll be off.

She'll be leaving. Off to America. She'll be huge. And then he said to us, it will be only a matter of time until he's opening for you. Yeah, he's such a humble king, though. Like, I just don't even think he realizes how good he is.

Like, when you watch him, you're just mesmer. by him but he's such a lovely dude and like just was so that's the second time i've opened for any international act and it was just like the most lovely experience so it was really cool the videos are amazing we didn't get to catch it but like the videos are amazing of your performance you have such like energy are you thriving off the crowd as well because i like you're at that point now where the audience is singing your songs yeah so loud mad it's so crazy because you always have your in ears in so i take them out sometimes to try and hear it but i still blows my mind but I think I just, I don't know

I don't know who is on stage I usually black out most of the time Come to? Yeah and then I come to and I'm in the dressing room Do you have your own Sasha Fierce? No, I wouldn't say I'm that cool

Like I think I still know what I'm doing And I still like slip up And sound like an idiot sometimes But it's, I don't know I think I just clock into like Some really angry ex-girlfriend That's there to like ruin your life Yeah, I like that's

Do you get nervous when you're meeting Because obviously like pre-show nerves as normal. But when you're meeting these big musicians like Alex? Yeah, I think I, yeah, well, I mean I'm a fan, so it is kind of, I don't want to be annoying

and like you don't, you're in their space and they're locking in as well and so you kind of just want to make sure that you're not getting in the way, but Hi! Yeah, so hey! Such an honour to be here! And then my Kiwi, I don't know why, but my Kiwi accent is so strong whenever I'm meeting people like that. Oh, I was going to say yours isn't too bad

but I'm the same when I bed. When I start to... Dope. Don't we go deep, Simon Brutgers. Yes, oh, do. You know, when you sort of meet someone with an American accent,

yours cranks up. Yes, yes. And then they start to comment on it gets worse and worse and worse. Yeah. You're also on... We can talk... We don't know how much

we can talk about the voice. This is the voice. I'm auditioning to do the new jingle. That was good. Thank you. She auditions for a lot of things that she doesn't do. I'm just worried that when I get well

and this cold goes away I won't be able to sing as well This is the voice That's music to my ears I liked that So if you've been living under a rock Cassie you audition for The Voice Australia In front of none other than sporty spice

Yeah, it was pretty mad It was wild It's definitely the biggest slash coolest thing I've ever done in my life And you got the four chairs Turn around All four chairs Yeah, I had my eyes looking elsewhere for half the performance,

and I turned back, and Ronan and Mel had turned, and I was, yeah, losing my mind, basically. Amazing. I know. It's so shame when you see a good singer on there, a goodish singer on there, and then no chairs turn, and you're like, oh, you know, when they're like, don't hit that moment? Oh, I was so nervous.

Like, it's because that, I mean, well, I started. busking and I think you get really used to people just not caring about you at all when you're singing. What's the word? Like, um, constant rejection. Yeah, right? It's good rejection. There's nothing. I'm crying. Yeah. Oh my God, I haven't earned

any money yet. Yeah. I'm really good and I made four bucks. Yeah. Well, I mean, when I started I was pretty young so I think people just felt bad for me. But this was like... This poor child. She must be homeless. Homeless and cold. Homeless. You should tie a leg up. We're track pants and

entire leg up like the Italians and they think you've got one leg or you're a disabled seagull yeah yeah yeah because you always give the one legged seagull your last chip I know and then they bring the leg down you're like you you know what you got me yeah that's me that's the one legged seagull yeah yeah cool moment though all four cheers turned yeah and yeah I was I was scared that nobody was going to turn so it was pretty amazing and like yeah I mean I listened to the spice girls growing up. Dad had a Ronan Keating CD in his car. Life is a roller coaster. You just got to ride it.

Yeah. I just came up with that on the spot. I just was reflecting what you were saying. That's true. When do we get to see you again on another episode? Can you tell us? Soon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm in, I've made it to the battles round, which is really exciting. I think that's swords and stuff. Yeah, yeah, we fight.

Yeah. Good. You're good. Okay. Good. Yeah. Yeah. Singing while fighting. Fighting. Demon hunters. Just get a mention for that in on the show. Love that movie. Love the soundtrack. Are you able to do one of your songs at some point? Because you've got to do covers, right? Yeah.

You did Chappell. Yeah. Just picked an easy song. Yeah. Cheapers. Hard song. I love that song. Honestly, that song actually was one of the big inspirations for seconds to midnight.

So it was cool to like do that. But I think for this one I didn't want it to be about me as an artist, I guess. I kind of wanted to go up on voice alone and like challenge my. against the biggest, like, best singers in the country, and I feel like there's not many opportunities to do that anymore, and this was one where you really had to, like, stand shoulder to shoulder against everybody. Do you win? Do you win?

I didn't come here in a Lamborghini, so... Do you win? Looking her eyes, it's a sparkling right. Well, Cassie, good luck. I cannot wait. I cannot wait to keep following your voice journey and, yeah, well done on opening for Alex Warren last night. Thank you. Thanks so much.

Born and Haley. Oh, that's the dog sounds! Fletchhorn and Haley are bringing Herman. Yes. This all started when Haley decided to purchase an antique on Trade Me. I actually do what I want, is what I've realized. I do what I want. Yeah, it's a life-sized German shepherd ceramic statue.

God, it looks for what. I'm excited for this to make it back to the studio. I'm nervous about the tongue. Oh, because it's poking out. It's poking out. Yeah, right. If there was anything that was going to say. snap, it'll be Herman's tongue.

Anyway, so we had Stevie drive him from Christchurch to Picked in. And I tell you what, she did a stellar job. There was bubble wrap, there were double seat belts in the back. And then the lovely team at Toasty Lords and Picked in hosted him for the evening. Yep. And honestly, they put him in a Toasty Lord's t-shirt.

Did you see that? It was very cute. Yeah, and he watched the shop for the day. Watch the shop for the day. I believe a few people got some photos. And now today... He needs to fare the... Cook Strait, and luckily, Sam from Bluebridge reached out and said we might be able to help.

Good morning, Sam. Good morning, guys. Now, how much does it usually cost for a single dog on the Blue Bridge? Oh, look, it's not cheap, I have to be honest. We are in hot demand. Yeah. Really? So do you take many ceramic dogs across the Cook Strait?

This is probably a first. I think we've seen a lot of things crossing the Strait, but this is probably the first. life-size ceramic dog. Okay, great, yeah. I hope it's at your last. Now I want to know what are some other weird things you've seen. A giraffe. Have you ever had a giraffe? Go from like one zoo to another?

No, never a giraffe. But we've had iguanas and lizards and all kinds of things like that. Wow. We've seen it. Is that like truck drivers that keep an iguana on their dashboard or something? Oh, yeah. The truck drivers, believe it or not, are pretty well behaved. I don't believe it, actually.

I choose not to believe it. Yeah. I know truck drivers. and there's some galley wags. The dog-friendly cabins are on the other side of the ship born. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Good to know. So how, Sam, are you going to transport Herman? Because he's precious cargo. Yeah. But he's more breakable than a real dog, I'd say. Yeah, look, I'm not going to lie. We're very nervous. Yeah.

It's well has been high. Yeah. It's looking like it will subside for the same this afternoon, so we should be good to go. So we have organized a care support person to travel with the dog. Oh my God, Sam. I love this. Unaccompanied minor on a plane.

Yeah, yeah. We're treating it exactly like that. Okay. We will not be the ones to damage this fresh Chicago. Herman the German, the German. Oh, my God, I love this. This is so great. Is he going to get some fresh sea air?

You know, you're going to take him out and... Oh, Titanicim. Put a captain's hat on him. I feel like we're just risking it all if we do that. I'm willing to take the risk to get a rad photo of Herman up the front of the ship. Oh, on the bow, like Jack and... What's the other girl's name? Jill.

Rose. Jack and Jill. No, they went up the hill. Jack and Rose were on the Titanic. Yeah. Also, that's a terrible reference. I was going to say they probably don't like Titanic references in the Nordical industry. No.

Oh, Sam, thank you so much for doing this. We really appreciate it. Oh, it's a pleasure. So Herman's going to get a dog-friendly cabin, so he'll be pretty safe and sound in there. When he checks in and picked in, he's going to get a Portsport, which is effectively a passport. Yes, a poor sport. Oh my God, Sam, I adore this whole thing.

I love how much you're getting into this. It's so great. We've taken the liberty of putting his picture in and filling out all his details and he's going to get his first travelling stamp. Oh, my gosh. I love this. I love this.

Sam, thank you so much. And please give a huge thanks to everyone at the Blue Bridge team for helping us bring Herman the German home. Of course. We love that. We're just so happy to be a part of it. And it's going to be a very exciting day to transport them across.

which you're creating quite a lovely community. But now, producer Carwin... Thank you, Sam. Thank you, Sam. Thank you so much, Sam. Bon voyage. That's what we say. In the sailing industry, bon voyage.

It's French, Sam, but it means safe travels. Now, producer Carwin, he's going to get to Wellington and obviously the Bluebridge team are going to need to head back. They go back and forward. How's Hermit? We're still only halfway. So we have found another listener. His name is Max.

And he is going to take Herman overnight because I think the Blue Bridge Ferry will get in about 5.30 so it's a little too late for someone to continue his journey on. He needs a nap. In a dog hours, that's like midnight. Exactly. He'll need dinner and bed, you know. So Max is going to take him in and then journey him

hopefully tomorrow to Parmi. Okay, so we need someone that's going from Parmi to, I mean, who knows. Just a bit north. Yeah. If you're heading north of Parmi, Even what's north of palm It will take everything We'll take literally everything

Maybe like a Hawks Bay Yeah we could go that way We could go that way We could go east Head out to Hawks Bay He deserves a little journey you know Yeah See the coast

Yeah I was just in Hawks Bay over the weekend Well you know I was going to say He's long been known to love a vineyard Well if you're travelling that If you are travelling that way Do you want emails or text messages Carl Waney

Do you want emails or text messages? My email address? Yes. Carwin, C-A-R-W-E-N at Z-M-O-L-Line. There you go, if you're travelling that way and you want to transport Herman the German. Be part of this beautiful community that we're actually... I love this.

It's so great. Nurturing here. I'm loving it. Play Z-M-S-Flech-Wan and Haley. Play Z-M-S-M-Flech-Won and Haley. Carwin, there's someone in the text machine there that can do Parme to Hawks Bay tomorrow. Oh, that's perfect. But how are we're going to get Wellington to Parmy?

Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you for the office. Okay, so we want to talk right now. What was your weird-themed birthday party? As a kid, or as an adult.

Or as an adult? I mean, yeah, I'll take it all. Because there is a child, his mother threw him a butter-themed birthday party. Why do you want to bank-rub your mother? I know. But this kid just loves butter. I mean, who doesn't? But I don't know that I would call it a passion.

What, like, butter sculptures? Butter sculptures, butter-coloured balloons and tablecloths. She made a cardboard box butter, slab, all the flowers and stuff. I mean, it's very aesthetically pleasing. The cake looked like a slab of salted butter. Everything's butter, butter, butter. It's actually very cool. Isn't it cute?

Yeah, like looking at all the decor and, yeah. It's very art daycare, very like, what would you, like 60s or something? Yeah, yeah, 50s, 60s kind of vibe, like yellow and pastels and stuff. With the butter. And it's not like the mum hasn't decided it She did it because the kid loves butter Yeah but sometimes your kid I'm sure you, I mean I wouldn't know

But you'd know sometimes your kids say something You're like, don't be so bloody stupid You're not getting a butter themed birthday But I love butter And then you're like well I guess you have to do it Because the kid wants it Yeah Well it's how much in time you want to invest in it

And I don't think my kids ever had any like outlet Oh I just wanted a greatest showman themed Birthday Party once Like a cake with a bearded lady on it that. Was she going to be Hugh Jackman? I feel like if it's your birthday, you've got to be a ringleader. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think she saw that the character

who was portraying historically was somewhat problematic because he was. What, making fun of sort of oddities. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exploiting them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, traveling them around and being like, look at this. Mine was always, like, growing up it was the fairy dell. Like, that was the normal one. You went to the fairy dell. Everyone got dressed up as fairies. You go to the dell. There was an adult fairy there and pretend to be a fairy.

Why are you saying fairydale? Like, everybody knows what a fairy dell is. Because every woman will know. what a fairy dell is. You go to the fairy dell. Like a deli? No, the dell. It's like a little inside fairy dell. Like a dome and it's got stars there and you're hanging in fairy stories. Every town had a fairy dell. Right. Who was saying that you went to a birthday party and it was an

adult but it was an adult recently but they had a kid's themed birthday party? Yeah, a friend of mine over the weekend had a birthday party. She's a similar age to me but it was like child's birthday party themed like classic children's So she had like a, what are they called? A face painter and like all the bunting and fairy cake and like all the things that you would have had as probably like a five-year-old. Australia.

Women's weekly. The jelly one's weekly. The jelly in the pool. The jelly in the pool. Don't put the jelly in the pool cake right until you're about to serve it. Because I did it once in it. The jelly ate through the icing and through the cake and then went all through the fridge. You had an unconsented pool though.

I did have an unconsented, no pool fence. It wasn't, yeah, properly. Listen to this, text that we've just received. This is what I want to know this morning is What was your weird themed birthday party? Have you been to one? Good friends of ours through their then five-year-old A Rug-doctor themed party.

Rug doctor. Yes, yes, yes. Steaming mad at dirt. Steaming mad. An actual rug doctor on hand to clean up a storm. Photos were shed and eventually ended up at Rug Doctor headquarters. Oh, my God.

Steaming good fun. So funny. Do you reckon the cake just said Rugged Doctor on it or it was made to look like the Rug Doctor machine? It was a Rug Doctor machine. Damn, that would be a great cake. We are going to need to see a photo of the cake. So whether it was a party that you had as an adult or a party as a kid,

what was the weird theme of the party? The weird themed birthday party. 0800-000, call us now. There's a little boy whose mother threw him, at his request, a butter-themed party. With the price of butter. He's passionate about it. He bankrupt.

Mum. Helen, what was the odd theme? Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. My six-year-old wanted a Titanic-themed birthday party. He was obsessed with the Titanic. Okay. But no one really knew what that was at that age.

So we still did it, but all his friends were kind of like, well, it's a bit weird. And then he wanted them to watch the Titanic movie, which we definitely put a note of that. It's a harrowing watch. Does it end well, does it? Yeah. I mean, I guess you could have taken them to the local pool, right, and just... What, drowned them? Yeah, I never thought of that.

No, but we just had the cage. and we had a big Titanic wreck on the top of it and it just was weird it's weird like it's a very famous film but it is a disaster

it's a disaster you know what I'm very drama and very depressing so yeah yeah it wasn't quite the interesting

party in real life it's so good thank you Helen some messages in I had an A-team themed birthday party

for my 10th birthday the A-team was an old 80s show but as a team the A-team Not the Ed Sharon song. No, I thought you said 18.

I was like, what was there, like booze and cigarettes? A pump party, we turned up and there were bicycle pumps hanging from the ceiling. I'd like to know if there were other pumps, like an air compressor or a pump, maybe a water pump, just pumped, pump bottle. How bizarre was it a kid's party? Yeah. The kids like, I like pumps. The boy I babysat had a cable's birthday party because he liked to pull and chew on cords, like, you know, the TV power cable. Cables?

How do you even theme a party? The cake had ropes of licorice and there were just lots of cables around for the kids to play with. Is that kids still alive? No, I don't reckon. Has he turned through the TV cord? Oh, no. Keep your text coming in, 9-696. Right now, we're talking about the weird themed birthday parties you've either had or thrown or been to.

Because there was a little boy who had a butter-themed party. Butter. Just butter. There are some truly chaotic messages coming in. I love this. It's kids, right? They just like the weirdest things. And they fixate, hey, and they look really into it.

My son at age four wanted a Dyson vacuum-themed party and his dad came through with the goods with a full-sized Dyson vacuum cake. Holy! Oh, are you, how did you get the... You get it lying down, right, like that? And the tube. Yeah.

Sponge rolls. I reckon sponge rolls. Yeah, they would have done sponge rolls. Tight sponge rolls. Yeah. For the tube. Oh, yeah, that's a tight sponge roll. And then slab at the end for the head.

For the head of it. Do you reckon it was a cordless Dyson or an old-school corded? Or a ball. Or a ball. It would have been the ball. The ball, Dyson's undefeated. The cordless Dyson, the battery dies, the trigger goes. No, they're better now.

No, they're not a new one. Okay. I went to a fruit and veggie party as an adult. It was an adult-themed party. You had to go as dresses. I went as a bunch of grapes and I made out with a carrot. Not bad. That's pretty good.

Not bad, fruit and vegetable mixing. One of my sister's birthday parties. That's really tickled me. I don't know why. One of my sister's birthday party, she wanted Dad to cut the heads off the chicken so they ran around without heads squirting blood for her party. Dad obliged. It was hilarious.

All her friends were screaming, but then everybody was loving it. Wait, he did it? Dad did it. He did the chickens. We're sorry. You call that harvesting chickens. You know, home kill chickens. Yeah, but are they like a serial killer now?

I hope so. That's like first step of a cereal killer, isn't it? One of those kids had to be. Yeah. My kid went to a bacon-themed party recently. The birthday boy was beyond excited. Everything was bacon-themed. Oh my God.

That's so funny. If one of you don't have a scrub daddy themed birthday party next birthday, I'll be angry. I won't be angry, I'll be disappointed. A scrub daddy cake would actually pop. I actually don't know what I'm doing for my birthday this year. I'll do a Scrub daddy party. Scrub daddy themed party. I went to a, there was a B themed party.

You had to go with something that started with B. Oh yeah? I went as Bain, David Bain. How cool would it be if you had that and actual David Bain turned up? And he came as a banana. And you're like, is that David Bain in a banana outfit? That's crazy. How drunk am I?

Are you guys also seeing David Bain in a banana outfit? Yeah. My nephew of mine is planning as Mac and Cheese party. Oh, my God, yum. And every kid gets a takeaway mac and cheese party bag, where it's just literally a plastic bag. Oh, my God. And it's a cake, just a big thing of mac and cheese.

Oh, yeah. Bloppy bowl of mac and cheese. Put a candle in a vat a Mac. Yeah. Yum. Someone said, oh, this reminds me of chicken. pox parties in the 80s. When I heard my mum talk about chickenpox parties,

I thought it was a theme, like chickens. But it wasn't. It was where they would go and would all just get chicken pox at the same time. Oh, yeah. Get it out of the way. Wasn't the theme, it was just the spreading of the herpes virus. Yeah, it was. It was the theme of the party was the herpes virus.

Yeah, fun, yeah, okay. My youngest's birthday party was, his dad's an arborist, so it was an arborist-themed birthday, complete with logs. Oh, that would be easy for a cake. You just do a chocolate log You just do a chocolate log Yeah nice

Put a few decorations on the outside Maybe some green mint leaves at the top And you can be like It fell down We cut that down Didn't we Cut that tree down And now you can eat it

Yeah That was great Get out there and see in those parties Messages Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Haley Well he did Two sold out shows Yeah

In Auckland And it was amazing To see the line out the door At the Town Hall last night Alex Warren of course I'm talking about And Fletch and I were invited

to interview him before the show and we were handed these little lapel mics that you'd see on like a newsreader like clipped to a blazer. Yeah, they're really tight like a centimetre high these mics. And we were asked to clip them to the collars of our shirts and we said no, we wanted to hold them like tiny microphones instead which is why we came up for the name of our show.

Welcome to Between Two Tiny Microphones with Alex Warren. Hi Alex Warren. I'm the in between. Yeah, you are. Or are you? Just before we start we always have to verify our celebrities now because the amount of times that we've been interviewing celebrities and it's actually been an imposter and, you know, AI just goes crazy these days. That happens a lot?

Yeah, yeah, so much, Alex. Well, if that is the real you, can I just verify your identification? Can you finish this June? Yeah. Damn, not him, I think we end the interview now. I think we end it there. I think you've got a bullshitter.

Can we get the real, sorry? Okay. Maybe try again, Haley. Maybe it wasn't loud enough. Okay, I'll go, I'll give you a little bit more to feed it to you. Yeah, please, please, please. Da-na-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Yeah, I know.

Are we able to get management? Yeah, we got it. Yeah, we got it. This is just feeling like, do you know what I'm just, you're going to have to do because we're actually like chewing through time. No, no, no, yeah, yeah. All right, Alex. Was your first impression of New Zealanders that were a bit odd?

Because in that concert, someone was like, hey, here's an urn of my mom's ashes. No, no, it wasn't earned. It was in a Ziplock bag. Also, that's way better. It's kind of like designer, you know, Ziploch. No, but I don't know.

I love it. I think it's very common, I think, at my shows now for people to be very open and joke about that stuff. Which I joke about it all the time. Did the Ziploc bag have a panel to write on?

Like, did it say Mum? Oh, like a lunchbox one? I wasn't paying attention to that. I don't think they brought the whole mum. Do you know what I mean? Oh, I don't know. It was, it was, booty? I haven't seen Ashes before.

No, I had some. It had some, too. Actually, I don't think it was the full mom, though. There's no way. Like, hopped? No. No, no, no. Please, Alex Warren, please.

Please my mom's leg. I don't know what part of her it was. It's hard to tell after all of the day. Yeah, it's all, it all starts to look the same. Aside from the ashes, though, how, what has your opinion of New Zealand been so far? I know you probably don't get to see much. Well, I haven't. I haven't gotten to actually leave and go anywhere.

But I hope, I'm coming back next year. So I hope that I'm actually here for a good moment. Are you announcing a tour now or is that later? Oh, I mean, I can tell you if you are. Exclusive, exclusive, yeah. I feel like this. We'll just do a breaking news stuff. It's okay.

I'm coming here. You're getting told them. I'm going to play. It's already, it's a. Breaking news with Alex Warren. I don't know when I'm coming. It's like before June, I believe, or after June before December. Oh, my God, can't get enough?

Any time. It's just good. Come in summer because it's like, the, like, the, country's a little embarrassing in winter unless you're down south. Really? I haven't been embarrassed. Okay, that's good. I just feel like Auckland's not dripping. I like my country's drippy. I don't know. No, but I... We'll clip that up. We'll just use that isolated.

Just use that, I reckon. Just put it. I don't think we need any more interview. That was bad. No, I'm coming here. I believe we're playing the Spark. And I don't know. I'm very excited. I know the time frame of when I'm starting tour next year, which is I think April. But, so it should be within the first. four months after that. And it's over here with you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She goes everywhere with me.

Where is she? Oh, she's probably in the green room. Enjoying not, being under this immense pressure. Yeah, yeah. So funny enough. No, no, real stuff. Like, my wife has really bad social anxiety. Oh, yeah.

Which is funny because she's an influencer. You know what I'm saying? I do get it. So, like, when people, like, meet her in real life, she's kind of confuzzled. She doesn't know what to say. Confuzzled. Yeah, I like that word. Pulling that out of my...

Yeah, confuzzled. You heard it here folks Yeah yeah yeah I mean obviously like everybody loves her You're amazing But thank you The girlies have really embraced Kover They love her so much

And our producers were telling us That your wedding Was their royal wedding What does that mean Like when when the royal Like when um Not Harry Which one?

The other one William And Kate Got married In my generation We were like Oh my God We all got dressed up

And went crazy You're that I don't people are dressing up for mine Yeah man They were having parties I have yet to see the wedding costumes as a, as a, uh, uh, a Halloween gift. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I feel like, um, you only become a, a Halloween costume once you're sort of a pastor. So don't, do you know what I mean? Yeah, no, I know, I know, I know. Also, um, the girlies love you because of your, uh, connection with book talk. Obviously, you're very aware of this. I love book talk. And like the, the, the smutty, yeah, fourth wingy. Uh-huh.

Are you sort of like... The smut? Yeah, are you playing into that? Yeah, I try to, honestly, like, I also want to, like, you know, because I put out, where I started teasing the song and they kind of like adopted it which i thought was really cool and i was like damn i don't want to be a fraud so i started reading them and then on tour it's really hard to read in a tour bus if you didn't know that do you feel sick uh yeah yeah yeah and it's kind of like you're just moving everywhere um but my wife started watching them or reading them i sort of move everywhere when

i read those books as well Jesus Christ sorry sorry Alex can we just have a seat i love you I love you I love you know please I love it this is awesome no I I love it. I'm sorry, I just, I can't help myself. Okay, so you can't read the books on the bus because of all the jerking motion and sort of, yeah, ramming of the bus. Yeah, yeah, can't.

But I love that you actually are best. Fletch, can we please? Sorry, can we have some professionalism? Sorry. This is between two tiny microphones. Yeah, please. We're in between. I love the commitment, though, that you read the books.

I tried. I can't lie and say I have. Oh, you dipped out? No, I tried. When the sort of wizards arrived. Yeah, I still have. Do you know what I mean? Like the dragons arrived?

I still have it. I still have the book. I will get to it. I promise. I will. I will. I'm trying. Have you read them? I read the first one. And then I was, I was sort of done with the dragons. Okay. And I went somewhere else. Where'd you go? Well, Alex. I mean, it's gray. It was morally gray. You know what I mean? I went morally gray after that. Okay. Okay. We can move on. It's okay. I think you'll find you went your way there. You don't read until I get it. I just feel like, you know, those fantasy books are a gateway. drug to something much more serious. Does Kover read these books with you? No. In fact, do you know what she's reading? She's reading. She's reading. I would go looking through her Kindle.

Am I checking her search history on a Kindle? Is that a thing? It's the new like check your partner's texting emails. She always has her Kind with her. Yeah. Oh God. My man, the things you are going to find on that. I don't want to cause any problems here. Oh no, I don't go looking. No, no. You are the reason that people still believe that love is alive. Mm-hmm. Thanks. Like you genuinely... That's a really hard pill to swallow, I guess. So you really love being around to her a lot? All the time.

All the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you never like. She's also like, I think, like, the thing, all of the redeeming qualities of my wife, but she, like, knows everything. Like, and I'm also one of those people who worry about everything. So if I'm, you know, if I'm, oh my God, like, why do I feel this way? She, like, knows every reason why I feel a certain way, and it's really cool.

Yeah. Have you ever, okay. Like, right now she's crocheting a baby, baby elephant for our friends. who just had a kid. And so, like, she's making a homemade, crocheted baby elephant that she's been working on last 24 hours. It kind of makes up for all the smutchi rates, I guess. Yeah, yeah, she's balanced as a woman.

Yes. Yeah. I was going to say, until you said that, I felt like I connect with her quite a lot. I've got PCOS and lots of anxiety as well. But you lost me at crochet. Oh, she's a big arts girl. She does all my tattoos. Oh, really?

Yeah, she does. She paints all my guitars if you're coming to the show tonight? Yeah. Yeah, so I play guitar and she paints all of them. And she's talented. Yeah, very, very talented. She's very talented. Now, before we go, we're running a competition at the moment called ZM's Secret Sound.

Wait, can you say it again, please? ZM's, that's our radio station, secret sound. So it's a half a second of a sound. And if you guess it, you win $25,000. Oh, God. You could spend that on whenever you want it. No, I'm terrible at this. I didn't even know my song in the beginning.

I've got the sound here. Have you got the sound? I can't see it, though. You guys can't show me. Okay, ready? I'm like looking over and I saw your phone. Okay, that was really quiet And that's on me, Alex, okay, here we go

What is ZDM's secret sound? I'll give it to you one more time It's a mosquito getting hit by an electric racket Oh, I love those. Oh my God, that's so good. Yeah, that's not it. Have you used one of the salt shotguns? Yes.

They're cool, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I used on my sister growing up. That's all right, my brother hit me in the face of the golf club so I get that. Oh, shit. By accident. You've got the scar. Yeah, so I have scarface claw.

No way. That's so cool. I wish I had a scar. I actually did that. Boof! Okay, so that's your guess. It is one of those electric things. Remember we tried it on my bum at a party once.

Yeah, we don't know if that's right. We don't know with a secret sound we can't know. There's only one person who knows it, and it's the soundkeeper. Who did that? Soundkeeper Brooke. She knows it. Okay. We cannot be trusted.

So if you don't know it, how do I know I got it? You won't. We'll have to email you. Oh. And this will take nine months to collect my prize. Yeah, yeah. And then you're going to send it to me pre-taxed, or post-taxed. Yeah. Well, Alex, good luck for tonight.

Thanks. For your return to using it yet. Oh, thank you. I'm excited to be here. You heard it here first. Actually, you heard it here first. Exclusive breaking news. What did we hear first? That you're coming back.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We heard it here first. And then your manager came over and was like, I totally forgot. I even told you that. Come to my show. This has been between two. tiny microphones. I love this. With Alex Warren. Authentic Alex Warren, apparently. Well, TBC.

The lovely Alex Warren. Wasn't he lovely? Warren wasn't in that interview because he was stuck in the side of the road. He was stuck in traffic. Yeah. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Haley. Now, speaking of budget, that was good. Speaking of budget, here is an article I was reading that over-saving could be as dangerous as overspending.

I know, you know, I responded immediately to this. Oh, you were like, we've got to talk about this. It's so great because then I can spend, spend, spend. We've got to talk about this. Oversaving is just another way of letting money control you. So if you're an overspender and you're living beyond your means, obviously money starts to control the way that you live your life, right? You see, all you think about is money.

I don't have enough. I don't have enough. I'm losing it. Overspending, sorry, has the same power to impact your brain and your quality of life. by dictating the way you live too hard. Yeah, but that's good because then you'll have money when you need it, Hayley. Yeah, you don't know nothing.

It seems, it seems, over-saving is the safer option. No. Because you can enjoy things. Things, enjoyable things, Haley. Yes. It turns out they don't need to cost. Like a walk in a park. Well, I think we need to.

I think we should bring in money expert, Bad News, Brad, into the conversation, who I believe is aghast. when Cowan said, can you come on to chat about how oversaving is as dangerous as overspending? Good morning, bad news, Brad. Good morning, team. I am shook us at this idea of over-saving. But here, I think this is a challenge, though, Haley. If you think it's so good, I reckon you should give it a go just to see if it does get you the same endorphins.

You're trying to trick me and saying, if you believe this, give it a go. Okay, so we would say, Brad, this is a ridiculous article that Haley shouldn't be. promoting or even reading? Basically, I mean, looking through it, some of the stuff is, it's more like, it's not really over-saving, it's just being out-and-out, cheap skate. I mean, like, some of this is like the guy who, you know, instead of buying a bed, got all of the old packing sort of bits and pieces and put it under a bit of plastic so you had, you know, somewhere to sleep.

You've got to enjoy life. Now, that's not saying that you overspend and you go out and spend everything. You need to have some backup savings in life, but let's be clear, you also need to enjoy it, And if you're sitting there and going, do I have, you know, a green smoothie in the morning or do I go for a glass of water? You've got to have a little bit to life to get through, get you going. Someone just texted. Should we have the green smoothie or not?

You should have, I think you should have the green smoothie? But make it yourself. Rather than buying it. Well, yeah, preferably don't ask someone else to make it. That will cost you in many different ways. Or have water and add green food coloring. That's just as nutritious. No, no, no, no, that's the cheap-scape option.

Always bad news, Brad, for the great advice. So what we're doing is we're enjoying life by having a green drink in the morning, but we're saving the money by just adding green food, colouring to water. Is that what you're saying, bad news, Brad? That is not at all my advice. Thank you so much for joining us this morning, Brad. No, I get what you mean. The article was just saying, like, if people start to get too bloody eye on the savings

and they stop spending any money on anything and start being so fickle that they lose the joy. of life. That's the danger of it. Exactly. Exactly. So like with everything, you've got to have a bit of balance. Someone just texting, live today, but plan for tomorrow. Exactly. Oh, gorgeous. That's a good one. That's a good one. Thank you, Brad.

Brady, just a great excuse to get you on the show. We love you. You know, just wanted to catch up. I love chatting to my genuine friends. Genuine friends, I think you can hear it. I think he can feel it. Play ZM's flesh for one and Haley. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. All right, all right, size and scale week here at FACTA, we're learning about different things. And thank you to our Scottish listener who posted on our international podcast family.

If you would like to join that, FVH's International Podcast Family on Facebook, it's a little closed group. You must be accepted. You must pass a very rigorous test. And rigorous testing criteria. So we had that guy from somewhere in Southeast Asia pretending to be a fan and he just wanted to sell everybody weight loss pills. Remember that? Yeah. I'll tell you what.

It worked. Look at us. You are looking so good. Look at us. Yeah. Yep. Skety pills. May my vision go blurry. And I can't find my doodle anymore. I can't smell. And you're a little bit of methane.

Andrew actually commented on there some nice synergy from yesterday's fact that about shoe sizes and barley corn, which I've had some great feedback on the old Shoe-sized barley corn. Fascinating. I just happened to be walking through a recently harvested fuel of barley here in Scotland bowl listing

and I picked up a barley corn and I just thought about shoes the highlight of my week and he's put a little picture of a barley corn. He should have put it. He should have measured it. He should have got as many barley corns next to his shoe.

Yep. That's very good. Yeah, thanks to Andrew. I didn't know that sort of barley corn looked like. Yeah, little barley corn. I don't think I even imagined it really. It looks like a wheat thing, doesn't it?

It's the gross thing in the vegetable soup. Yeah, barley. The barley and you. You're like, Why do we call them barley sugars because they're barley shaped? Oh, yeah. It's not Lolly Origin name week.

Sorry. We should do a whole week of Lolly origin. Lolloy-Ori. Yeah. And then we've done like sweets, but we could do some of lollies. Why is it called an all sort? Because it's got all sorts of things in it.

Who knows? All sorts. So there's not, though. There's only this little bit in the licorish. There's only two bits. Yeah, but the color, the different colors. The squiggles. Why is it called a fruit tube?

What's a jube? What's a jube? God damn it. You know I can't sleep on that. Yeah, well, you'll have to give it to... You're going to wait for lolly week. No, I've got to find out why is it called a jub. Why is it called?

You told me it had to be a fast fact of the day and you've gone and derailed everything. I will say this is actually on you. It's a shortened form of jujube, a type of fruit and an original flavoring for the confectionery. The name Jujube itself has roots in the Greek word zizhifone and the Latin juzerfam referring to the jujub fruit.

You drunk? If I had a kid, I'd call it's jujub. It's those weight loss cells. Oh yeah, those hormones. Jujube fruit. So today's fact of the day. The juzube fruit. Come on.

Okay. Is a Chinese red date? Okay, so today's fact of the day is about the pint. We had a couple of pints yesterday, don't we? Cupply pints. Couple of creamy pints. And then Vaughn, and then we did a round each. And then Vaughn said, oh, it's time to go now.

I was like, okay. I'm in a rears, one pint. Well, it won't be forgotten. I'm in arrears. I've made a note in my notes. One point. First round next time. Absolutely.

Do you want to go for a pint after the show? No. I want this dead off my back. No. I'm not going for a pint at nine. Okay. It did some. As I said it out loud, it might as sound as slow.

I'm going to the gym. The word pint, the English word pint, comes from the old French word pentee. And pentee in turn comes from the Latin pinta, meaning painted or marked. Right in the pincter. Haley. Haley, too, no, stop it, don't do it. You encouraged it, stop it. Why?

Because in medieval taverns and markets, jugs and tankards and pots, they all had were different sizes. There was no universal size to it. So there was, each place would have a pint or a glass or a vessel with a painted line on the inside. Then when they got new earthenware or a new tankard in, they would fill that at once. and pour it into the new thing and put an engraved line on the inside

or paint a line on the inside of their variety of glass, well not even glassware or earthenware or tankards or jugs or whatever to indicate that's the painted line from the original pint. So there was a universal pint measuring and it was to be up to the painted line.

And it was about the marked measure not the container itself. Unless you were at the RSA and they'd fill it above. They go above the painted line. Of course they always go because now, you know, in a wine glass, technically that little line that they fill it up to. Oh my God, I hate when they just put like an inch in a wine glass.

It's like, that glass can take a lot more. I know. It's bulbous. There's a brim for a reason. That's where we stop. That's when I will say to Cheryl at the Razor, I'll say, let's see Cheryl's famous meniscus paw. I was going to say, yes.

Have you heard of a meniscus? Give it to me. Cheryl, hit me with your meniscus paw, baby. And she pours it until the point where you can't back it up, you're going to go, I love it. I love him. I love having a sucker. When you're going to bear it, it's too full and you know you're going to spill someone to the whipbacked.

It's hope you're going to give it a little bar suck before you hit the road. Yeah, that's good stuff. That's a poir. That's a point. That's a poor. So today's fact of the day is next time you order a pint, you just know that the pint originally meant the painted line. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day, day. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do.

Do you. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Haley. We want to know now if there's something you learn to do later in life. Yeah. So there's a woman was sharing about learning how to swim at age 22. Because she grew up in America, inland, never, like, needed to learn how to swim. Wasn't near the ocean. Like, we are.

We're a skinny country surrounded by the sea. You kind of have to hear. Thank you so much for noticing. Thank you for calling us skinny. Actually, I will say as well, getting skinny out. Because we are, it's in our like curriculum, right, learning to swim? I think so, yeah, yeah, you have to. Because the schools all used to have pools.

They did, yeah. And then they're quite expensive to maintain, so a lot of schools lost pools, but one school in the area kind of kept the pool. Or like a lot of schools will go to the local pool and, and high lanes and stuff. Yeah. It's cool. Yeah, so this woman had never learned how to swim, didn't need to. And then as she got older, it became an embarrassment. So when people like, do you want to come to the pool, she was like,

how do you say I don't know how to swim so it never became a thing until one day she just decided I'm going to get over this I'm going to heal this wound and I'm going to learn how to swim so she got a swimming instructor

and at 22 threw herself into a pool and blam in learn how to swim I've seen quite it because I've spent lots of time at the pool swimming not recently because I'm bragging not bragging

not bragging you racked up the case yeah you do rack up the case but you do you see adults learning to swim quite a bit I've seen it a lot and it's so it's nice to see. It is nice. Because it would be a big step. Oh, it's terrifying the water if you don't know how to swim.

I can't even imagine. I mean, I guess it would be like, if you were trying to, at least if you were trying to ride a bike, you could do that privately somewhere. Yeah, whereas to learn to swim, you're going to pull. And there's always people around. So, you know, there's a little bit of a shame or embarrassment about it. For sure, for sure.

So this is what I wanted to know today. What did you learn to do later in life than the, the average person. Maybe like, there's something you still haven't learnt? Yeah, yeah. Like you don't know how to ride a bike. Yeah, or swim or... Or maybe you're in your 50s and you don't know how to drive, you know, and you learn how to drive much later in life.

A friend of mine who's in his mid-40s never learnt how to drive. Wow. And then eventually, only in the last two years, he got driving lessons. Yeah, and you'd be like, why didn't they do this 30 years ago? Yeah. Or something. Yeah. Insane. Yeah. Okay, 0800,000 M is our number.

give us a call now. You can text through 9-696. What did you learn to do later in life? There is a woman who shared her experience of learning how to swim at age 22. We want to know what was the thing that you learned to do much later in life. Some messages in.

I've had my car licence for nearly eight years but have only just learned to drive a manual as an older adult. That's good. Start that. A lot of people now just don't even bother to learn in a manual. We don't need to. I'm 36.

I just recently mowed the lawns for the first time. I was too scared to learn how to do the pool cord to turn it on. You've got to pump it, eh? You've got to pump it first. Give it a... Got to pump a fuel into the fuel line and then just give it a eats. Megan, you're the same lawnmower for the first time recently? Yes, I was too scared to learn to do the, like, pulley cord bits.

Why is I'm scared to the pulley cord? Because it could come off and the blade could slice you in half. But also, it looks so aggressive. Have you seen a lawnball? Exactly. I don't know. Could do it. Yeah, but now you're completely comfortable with it? Well, to be fair, we have a couple of lawn miles, but we've gone electric, so that one's a bit better.

Okay, no tuggy. Okay, let's press the button and it goes. Okay, Megan, thank you. I took my first surfing lesson at 40. I lived by the mantra, be brave enough to suck at something new. Oh, yeah. What a great. What a great.

Good mantra. Good mantra. A good mantra. 34-year-old female, I just learned how to roast vegetables. still not a great cook, but I am proud I can roast a kumir. Yeah, man. Did you get it crispy? YouTube teaches.

Teach yourself so much now. Yeah. Keep your text coming in. 966. 0800 dials at M. What did you learn to do later in life? What did you learn to do later in life is the question we're asking? And actually, I'm finding it quite inspiring.

To do you think? Get up and do something. Oh, no. No, let's not go crazy. Yeah, it's not go nuts. I'm 50. In the last three years, I've started learning how to play guitar. and I've recently started rowing as in an eight sculling.

And I'm learning New Zealand sign language. Oh, wow. Your brain is going to thank you. Yeah, it will. You'll be starving off dementia. Is it staving off? I don't know. I love that silence.

Is it staving off? Well, I don't know, so I didn't answer. Is it staving or starving? I know, but we all know that it's staving. That's what? Well, I'm staving off dementia. something after me. Yeah.

Or starving off. You do that. I'll read some texts. It's stave off. It means the delay or prevent something from happening. Staving off. Starving off is not a recognised idiom or phrase.

What a dumbo. Yeah, maybe you should learn English later in life. Maybe it's not that late in life. Wow. That hit on so many levels. Yeah, it was good. It was good. A layed insult.

50-year-old female out here is well, learning to ride a Harley. Oh, wow. I love it. Learned to ski at 40. This is great. It's to stave it off. I've looked up the origins of it.

It literally is, the plural of staff used to be staves. So if you had more than one staph, so you're literally using a stick to keep it at bay. You're staving it off. You're staffing it. Like pushing it away, like, yeah. How good that? I love this. Save something off is to literally use a stick to keep it away from you.

We've moved on. Have we? Someone started ballet lessons, wasn't allowed to do ballet as a girl. Yeah. So I started ballet lessons when I was 30. Wow. They do those fitness classes, say B-A-R-R-E. Bar class.

Bar class. That's like introductory, ballet for adults. But you can do lessons, like proper dance lessons on it. Yeah, right. I didn't learn to swim until my mid-twenties. Later became involved in doing swift water rescues. Oh my God, that's awesome. What's swift water rescues?

Like, I guess like rivers. and stuff. Wow. You didn't read the one about the following of my passing, passing of my husband? No. Following the passing of my husband, I needed to change my career so I could still look after my teenage children run the farm that I've been left with, so I quit my IT job and learnt to be a farmer. Holy moly, that's amazing. There's so much to that, like learn to be a farmer. That's not one job. No, that's a bunch of jobs. I'm 35 and I've only recently learned how to say no. No. It's a tough skill. Some people don't know. No. Irish dancing at 50? Oh, yeah.

took up Irish dancing. Wow, that's hard on the knees. A Lord of the dance is for you all the rage, didn't it? Oh, the Riverdance. Michael Flatley. What's Michael Flatley up to now? Staving off, staving off old age with, um... With River Dance.

Yeah, maybe. But his knees would be toast, man. His knees would be ruined, ain't? Oh, yeah. I learnt to drive at 35, quite embarrassing, but I was terrified. I've done about 5,000 lessons with a conservative ex-truck driver called Keith. Yeah. Still can't parallel park, but I can drive.

That's good. Plenty of parks you can just drive straight into. Yeah, you'll just keep looping around the block into your fine one. Michael Flatley isn't even Irish. What do you mean he's not? He's born in Chicago. No, he was Irish dancing. Yeah, he was Irish dancing.

He's a choreographer of Irish dance, but he's from Chicago. He's born in America. No, we didn't lie to. 37-year-old man here learning to grow up, came from a very religious family, grew up in church, and my brother and I have just learned how to grow a weed. Okay. I'm really departing that lifestyle.

That's great. George's up next secret sound. The next chance to win the $25,000 thanks to Neon is at midday. Can I just finish on one more thing about Michael Flatley, Lord of the Dance? He holds the Guinness World Record for the fastest feet, 35 taps in a second. What? One. 34, no, that's not right.

35, you can't do 34. Legendary dance of Michael Flatley holds the Guinness World Record for the fastest feet 35 taps per second. You can't know, that's impossible. Michael Flayley, 35 taps a second. Vaughn's believing what he's reading on the internet again. We read to read that. Very embarrassing. 30 news from TikTok, Reddit.

He later broke his own record with 35 taps a second. That's not a thing. That's just a lie. That's not. It's not. This guy, go booboo. I talked to Michael Flatley, my average taps. Michael Flatley did to tell the truth.

Yeah, see, tell the truth. Yeah. Michael. Two. Oh, you two. Okay, there we go. We've got the actual number. One dip, dip.

There you go. Tap, tap. We can all do that, Michael. This isn't him. This is somebody trying to beat his average taps per second for a dance. Come on, man. That's not 35 in a second. That's like three in a second. You can't count if you're having a seizure.

You've got tap shoes on when you're having a seizure that doesn't count. It's not 35 in a second one. That's impossible. That's not 35. They're not moving, but if you were liking a human movement, it's when you're at the beach and the sea. It's sand real hot and you're trying to get to the sand that's not hot. I just realised I did the whole show with my headphones on backwards.

Well, that means the show's backwards then, isn't it? We're going to have to play this in reverse. Well, should we speak in reverse and hopefully they'll work out the other way? Give us a review. Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley.