ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - August 7th 2025
Episode Date: August 6, 2025Gen Z Drinking is back Car warning signs give you anxiety Have we won the lotto? Top 6 reactors on the moon Toastie awards When were you left behind? SLP - Have you RSVP'ed no to a wedding before Road... user charges Why people are staying up late What have you loked up on the work system? Fact of the Day QLP - Have you lowered your standards for dating apps? Blue moosies are backSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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ZM's Fletchwan and Haley.
Thank you, Bryn.
Good morning.
Welcome to the show Fletch Vaughn and Haley.
It's two minutes past six.
You're back, Haley?
I am back.
After a day off needed for crippling anxiety.
And you've been diagnosed with an old man back.
I haven't been diagnosed.
I've got a hot water bottle at work.
And I'm off the gym for six weeks.
How grim's that?
Well, I'm having shoulder surgery on Friday
and I'm not going to be out of gym.
So maybe we can go on like...
I've got no excuse.
I'm just...
Can't be bothered.
I'm back, baby.
You can't call yourself a yo-yo if you don't go back up.
Yeah, true.
You know?
This is true.
You're just a yo otherwise.
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe we can go on lovely long walks together.
Oh, cute.
That'd be nice.
We are low-impact walking.
That's what I've been.
Yeah, what if you want?
You want to come on the walk?
Yeah.
Can I ride my skateboard?
Yes, but not only if you've got your shoulder pads on.
I'll grab all my pads on.
You know what happens.
You ride into stones and you fall off.
I know, I do.
You're not very good.
Scrope your knees.
When you're 43, you do hit the ground at it harder.
Yeah, it hurts.
Coming up on the show this morning, 8 o'clock,
we'll give you the chance to go in the draw for Zetem's World Tour,
the Makona Passport Edition, Escape Winter.
Go to Europe.
We're going to do this draw on Monday.
So the next couple of days, your last chance is to go in the draw.
The top six is coming up.
The United States wants to put a...
A nuclear reactor on the moon.
Bizarre.
To be honest, I'm for it.
How cool would it be to a full moon?
You're looking at it and then just like...
Mushroom cloud on the moon.
Well, about all the neon green stuff will float around.
Yeah.
I think it'll look cool.
No.
They want to put it there because obviously they want to settle on the moon.
And it's the easiest way to generate power.
So, Huck a nuclear reactor up there.
You've got electricity.
Yeah.
You're halfway to being able to plug in a circular saw
and build a base.
But do you just hire one of those from higher pool and chuck it in a rocket?
Yeah, I think so.
Is that how a reactor?
Yeah.
Yeah, I get my nuclear reactor from higher pool and I get one.
Not a bad price, actually.
It's better than petrol.
With your floor sander and you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Compressor.
Oh, yeah.
A little mini digger.
Play ZM's Flashborn and Haley.
Now I said just before that song, Gen Zee, got you.
Got you.
Now, it's long been known that Gen Z, they're drinking less, right?
Yes.
And obviously I say this in Jess because nothing bad about drinking less.
Why, why, like, I know that they are drinking less, but why?
Has it been, like, research to why?
There probably is, but I don't have that research before my eyes.
Or is it because their parents are all like Gen X's in their absolute boomings?
Yeah, maybe.
Like, when it comes to drinking?
Yeah, they've seen it.
I mean, they've just got other things to do.
They're into other kind of hobbies.
and whatnot.
And they're more health conscious.
And if the pandemic,
they weren't out socialising as much.
We've got access to online stuff
that's like, don't drink.
You know, it's just less cool.
Or was it?
Or is it now?
Because apparently,
Gen Z, in the last 12,
sorry, six months have,
73% of Gen Z surveyed
have drunk in the last six months.
So that's like the vast majority.
Three quarters of them, if you don't.
Because for you, you don't know math that well.
73 I'd round up to three quarters
That confuses me greatly
Yeah
Yeah
You said a number
Yeah
But that's up from 60%
Two years ago
Which is like hovering around half
Yeah
So what
So people are saying
They're getting older
And they're finding that life
Is like life
A box of chocolates
Life is not a box of chocolate
As Genzi leaves the
You think it's a box of chocolates
And then you taste one
And it's little nuggets of poo
It actually is
And you're like
Hold on a minute
Life is like a box of chocolates
except the chocolates are often little nuggets of poop.
Yeah, that's right.
That's beautiful.
Write that down, put it on a t-shirt.
But, yeah, basically, as they're aging,
they are going, yeah, the whole non-drinking thing's not as easy.
So they have become the third generation,
still well below Millennials number one,
where millennials are the number one generation most likely to drink.
Yeah.
Followed by Gen X, so, you know, slightly older.
And then Gen Z's in there.
Over the boomers now.
Over the boomers.
Yeah, whereas the boomers were above them before.
for. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Burmertime, baby. Yeah, yeah. Also, people were saying the cost of living
crisis was linked to past lower drinking rates among Gen Z, but now they're back with
vengeance. With Alco-Pops and canned cocktails. The majority of Gen Z's saying that they
prefer that over beer and wine. Whereas like, we drunk, I just, just like, I mean, we drunk
a few of the smear and moderation, of course. No, no, past me. Did not drink in moderation.
present me very much so moderation
moderation only you see the cost
of living crisis contributed to
I thought it was what is it gambling alcohol
and something else always do well in a
tough times in a recession
oh really and if drug dealers follow GST
and stuff I'm pretty sure we'd find out they're always
they're always doing quite well for themselves
yeah they also say experts were saying that a drop
in drinking is always cyclical it happens
and it's not permanent so Gen Z is just
in that cycle but it will come again
so the next generation might be boozes again
and then the following generation
will be pulling back, which is very
interesting. But in general, anything
you do, in moderation. In moderation, of course.
Play Z-M's
slash Vaughan and Haley.
A huge US study
looked at drivers and cars
that had ADAS, so advanced driving.
Everyone's got it these days. Yeah, yeah, everyone's
self-diagnosing.
No, that's ADHD.
That's like, Vaughn going at the diagnosis. I'm like,
nah, nah, nah, can't catch me.
Can't catch me.
No, these are all the things in your car
like that ding when a car's too close to you or changing lanes or you're coming into traffic
or you're reversing or a car but it's behind you or hate that you're backing out of a car park
and there's a car like waiting for you yeah because they want your car park but your car's like
yeah cross traffic on or you know when you go to overtake someone and it just slightly
pulls you back because it thinks you're drifting over the end to them yeah yeah so that system
so the advanced driving assistance systems ADAS they wanted to
know how that affects people
driving. Because mine
sparks my anxiety. Like
when I am
getting too close to someone and it's like, break, break, break, break
or you're coming back and you're like, I can see
someone's behind there but then it kind of dings at you.
Yeah. It makes me like,
it gives me a fright. So yeah, things like
forward collision warning, lane
departure warnings and
blind spot detections.
I like the blind spot detection. Those were
the key kind of features
that they looked at and they found that
demanding systems like those, there were 5% more speeding accidents and 6% hard-breaking incidents.
Whereas informative systems that don't annoy you and are just there,
minus 9% speeding incidents and minus 7 hard-breaking incidents.
So it's not a lot percentage-wise.
Yeah.
But there were more accidents as a result.
As a result of them.
Isn't that insane?
I get it.
Because you panic.
It panics you.
My parents' one is, and I'll say it, it's a Mercedes,
but I will also like to reiterate it was secondhand.
Right.
It's an old one.
But it's bad, it jams the brakes on and you get the Friday life.
But when they looked at, like, so that was behaviour, like driver's behaviour.
When they looked at actual collision reduction, the demanding systems were minus 15%.
But the informative, but the informative were minus 19%.
I just like to sort of feel it.
You know what I mean?
I'm a very good driver.
and I'm always I just want to feel it like oh there's a car
there's a car well maybe you just need
maybe you just need the information there without the beeps
without the vibrates yeah because there's some that
my car tells me and I quite like it
like sometimes I'll be tutuing with my hair
or maybe like tutuing with something
never texting and driving because I'm not an idiot
and it will say distracted driver detected
really and it calls me up
yeah yeah eyes I drove your car and it said
yeah ohy did it yeah that's insane
But Haley's car also said, hello, Vaughn, because I set it up.
I set a profile up on a car and I drove it because I always do things like that.
When I'm having somebody else's saying, I make myself at home.
And it moves, it moves the seat for you.
Yeah, where you want it.
Yeah, to where you want.
So there were one additional insight from the study that looked at all these car systems in the safety.
Women responded more safely to men in both system types.
So whether it was a demanding system or just information on the screen.
Women, better.
Thank you.
Thank you. So you take that today.
I'll take that today. That's a one for you. That's a one for you and all the woman.
Are you keeping a telly one? Yeah, I've got my woman.
My woman telly app open.
Feels like you're not writing it down.
No, I already did it.
Oh, you've done it?
One. Did you want the details of it?
No, no, I just want to make sure you've written it down. One for women. One for women, men, none.
Play. ZM. Fletch Forne and Haley.
Okay, so yesterday, I think, I think, guys, I think I might have won lotto.
Haley reckon she's won lotto.
Well, not no one won, right?
It was 17 million yesterday, and is it 20 million now for Saturday?
It was unstruck.
It rolls over to 20 million on Saturday.
One Auckland, my lotto player, won $1 million in First Division.
That's me.
Wait, so it says an Auckland my lotto player.
Yes.
Yeah, it knows your location.
Okay, so that's you guys.
So that's us guys.
I'm in a personal recession, so I'm not trying to gamble my way out of it.
Sorry, hang on.
Wait, I thought we had, I told you, I told you, last night when, no, I know, you guys were like, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, we've got a deal when these big drawers come.
I said to chat last night when I was like, I can't get out to get a ticket in my account is not working, so I'm out this week.
And I said, don't worry, Vaughn, I've got you.
Dude, yeah.
Imagine if on the one week that you're like, when we get in the big ones, we only buy them on the big ones and we say, we're going to help each other out.
Yeah.
If imagine, imagine on the one week that you're like, guys, I can't play this week, me, flesh splits.
$17 million.
I know.
Yeah, I'd probably, I'd give you like something, like a thousand.
Do you know what?
I almost think we should just do a show, syndicate.
Just by one.
So we were, so at the weekend,
mom was dropping Haley and I at the airport,
and she had to make her stop at the TAB.
She was like, I've just got to stop at the TAB.
I think about Beverly, I'd dig a tired.
Off she trots.
The B and TAB does not stand for a B.
No, it does not.
So, no, so mum and her like old workmates for, how long has it been?
1988, so 36 years, coming up 37 years.
They've done a syndicate and every weekend
will get like the lotto ticket
and they'll have a race, a gamble, a little race or something.
Oh, look a multi.
Yeah, or something like that.
And they've done it for years.
And occasionally they'll win a little bit
and they'll put that in the pot.
And the kitty?
Yeah, mum was telling Haley about it.
I know, she's, I've just got a trot in here.
It's her turn.
They take turns.
I knew she was in a syndicate for the loto.
Yeah.
I don't know she was.
Well, they also dabble in the ponies?
Oh, I don't know.
Your mom wouldn't get on the dogs, which I don't think so.
We'll just say no for the...
We'll just say no.
We'll just say no. But so Haley and I, we can't check the My Lotto app until 6.30.
So we've got four minutes.
Also, we're not allowed to check it on the work, Wi-Fi, because going to let a gamble at work.
Oh, talk on here, do your job.
I'm like, no, I want to see if I'm a millionaire and I'm out of here, I mean.
Are you?
You're just going to leave.
You're going to walk out.
On a million?
Nah, it wouldn't go far.
I didn't even touch the sides.
How funny is that?
Like, it wouldn't even touch the sides in this.
like day and age.
In this day and age,
I mean it would certainly be helpful.
I'm not going to say no to that.
Hell no.
But I would like to say
if I have only won the million,
where does that leave us
in terms of the giftings?
Because we only do it past 10 million
and then we change it,
we up it past 20 million
to what we're going to help each other.
Just lunch.
Just lunch.
Like a nice line.
A nice lunch.
Maybe I'm happy to pay
for the fairer to our haggie.
She's there goes half you
bloody.
Lot of one.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's half gone, and then we'll pop up to the mud brick.
Right, that's the other half gone.
Because you know what's going to happen is it's not you or either of one and then we'll be stuck here.
Yesterday was tingly wingly wingly Wednesday.
Yeah.
And as I purchased my ticket on my lotto as an Aucklander.
Yeah.
I felt something.
You felt a tingle.
I felt a tingle wingle.
Was that just your bad back?
Oh, shoot you.
I have put out a bulge.
Yeah.
It'll be that.
It'll be that.
It's hard to find some recent stats, but I was like,
How many people buy online now compared to the in-store?
Because they've shut down a lot of the, like my supermarket ripped out the kiosk,
the lot of kiosk.
My dairy's got one.
Yeah, like a year ago.
I live in West Auckland, that's still very much gambling.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A year ago, it was half of the tickets were bought on the app.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm mostly app, but I love when I'm at the dairy.
Getting my...
No, it's just something you can lose.
Just something you can lose.
Okay, well, we've got...
Two minutes.
Okay, well, we'll come back after the ad break and see if you're a millionaire.
Or if you are.
Or also, I wouldn't tell people.
No, no, that would I.
So next, we definitely didn't win the lotto.
Well, it's going to be okay for you.
I definitely didn't win the lottery.
Well, you didn't have a ticket.
Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Haley.
Play ZM's Fletchborn and Haley.
From the unmoderated comment section, this is the top six.
NASA plans to build.
a nuclear reactor on the moon by 2030.
And they're building it up there.
Is it a flat pack?
Why are they doing that?
Well, yeah, it's from IKEA.
An IKEA?
I did see IKEA because, you know, they're opening in Auckland later this year.
They announced, like, you know, what we're going to be some of the little, you know,
you know, they have the famous...
Meatballs?
Well, I know they're famous so their meatballs, but, you know, they've got the famous
furniture items and they've announced, like, some of the items are going to have.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like the, um, everyone...
I follow on Instagram has the flat pack wardrobe
and it makes it look like a built-in wardrobe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm excited. I just love looking around
like here. That's going to be fun.
It's going to be a game changer, I reckon.
What are they named after? All the places, isn't it a thing?
Yeah, they all have like weird names.
Hogan floggen-Schnegan.
Flop Rusken Toll.
This is my Blahfotha.
Close the door on the blueska.
Oh, ah.
I'm two squirrels short
My inkling farker
Oh no
Not your england flocker
I am a ingle flogar
It's a wobbly
I have the same England
For his own inked flocker
Dockstar
Eke torup sofa
Pornang
Pornang
And everything has the double dots over there
Yeah lots of omlots
Omblots
Amlots
Apalaro
Why do we get on to this?
I don't know
Flatpack nuclear reactors
You see yes
That's right
We're back, baby.
God.
Top six other night
we should have just done
top six
possible names for the fat pack.
Oh, the Maca Carpa shoe rack.
Yeah, the Maca Carpa.
Put your shoes on, the Maca Carpa.
We're getting the Calax shelving unit.
Yes.
Oh my God, this one.
Billy Bookcase.
The Billy Bookcase, that's a famous one.
That's a famous one.
All the updatadia storage box.
Oh, uptaprinti.
Hey, so what is a reactor in why we put him on the moon?
Just quickly.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, just quickly, we'll probably just, I reckon,
go back to that.
Yeah.
They're putting one on there because it's essential to have power for like settling the moon.
And they said, you know, first stage.
Did that, why not hydro?
They want to mine the moon.
Why not like a hydro electric dam like everyone else?
No water, dude.
What about a windmill?
Solar blew my mind.
I would have thought there would have been enough.
Solar, yeah.
Nuclear is like, endless.
Yeah.
You know, it's just going to, once it gets going, it just get, famously, Chernobyl, famously.
Yeah.
And I guess it can't be stopped.
If they mess it up, it's only the moon, isn't it?
Unless it floats down here.
Only the moon.
We need the moon.
What for?
Minstration.
Howling it and menstruation.
Yeah.
And tides.
And blaming moods on.
I've said, I'm happy for tides to go.
Yeah, I know.
But then you're happy to wade out 10 kilometres.
Yeah, I'm not happy to wait out 10 kilometres.
Imagine waiting out 10 kilometres and you're menstruating the whole time.
Oh, Jesus.
The moon disappeared when you were menstruating.
And, of course, it never turns off.
Yeah.
It stays.
You're just eating steaks all day to try to keep from depleting yourself of iron.
You're incredibly anemic.
Top six are the 1960 sci-fi things that the US should do on the moon.
Okay.
Because if they're putting a nuclear reactor up there.
Number six, glass-roofed UFO cars.
Yeah, cool.
And they have to sound like that.
You just wanted to make that noise.
Can you do it again, please?
I really like that.
And that's fast.
Oh, I've warned you've delighted me.
Yeah, whoop, whoo, and then...
Woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, whew, whew!
Mm-hmm.
Uh, number five on the list of the top six
are the 1960 sci-fi things
the US should do on the moon.
Robot helpers that don't,
that actually look like robots used to look,
not like humans, because they're making all those
Boston dynamic ones for the human, real human looking.
Oh, yeah.
Latexy skin and stuff and, like, blinking eyes.
Yeah, make them look like robots.
I saw a...
I saw a dials and buttons for eyes.
Yeah. Did you see that robot coffee arm
that's at a bus stop in Auckland?
No.
And it's like makes people coffee
and it's like
And this looks like an arm.
Did you see the robot arm
That was supposed to pour
Beyonce a drink on stage
And it totally missed the glass
And just dumped it on
And then she goes to reach for the glass
And it's like, no.
Oh.
There is a robot coffee arm
At Folletto Cafe
Located at 27 Rutland Street
And CBD
Would that be where you saw it?
I don't know.
I saw it online.
Features a robot barista
that uses a robotic arm
to prepare coffee.
It is known as New Zealand's first robot
Barista Cafe.
Does the robot
Barrester arm have like tattoos
or whatever a robot engravings.
It was untatoo.
Oh, well, I don't trust it.
Well, then I'm not getting a coffee from it.
Yeah, they should put a tattoo sleeve on it.
But the funny thing was, is that they had three windows.
I'm guessing for three different orders.
And they just plastered it with signs.
Like, don't take the other coffee.
We're watching.
Oh, really?
CCTV, we're watching.
Don't take someone else's coffee.
Because you could just literally reach through the window
and take someone else's order.
I've seen it here.
I'm looking at it now.
It's a big robot arm.
I mean, the test will be...
It's white.
It could do its hats.
Yeah, the test will be.
how good it does a mocker.
Oh really? Is that the test? How it makes
a baby's drink? How it makes a baby's
beverage? Yeah. How well do you make something
where, how well do you make something that
chocolate's doing all the heavy lifting? Excuse me?
Yeah. Former All Black Campton
and Hardman, Richie McCourt. Karen Reid.
Karen Reid. Love to mocker. Love democker
when he was in, didn't they? Remember that?
It's called a vagina chain.
Number four on the list of the top six are the 1960
sci-fi things the US could do on the moon. Make a 50-foot
woman. Oh yeah. Is it? I'm doing a remake worth. They've talked about
Sydney Sweeney Barabrella.
They're doing a barborella remit.
Does she get Mel Bracewell to do it?
Halfway there.
That's rude.
No, I love it.
Margot Robbie.
She's not known to be tall.
No, she's tiny, isn't she?
But I mean...
On behalf of all tall women everywhere, I'm offended.
Yeah, she's in torts for Tim Burton's
attack of the 50-foot woman.
Wow. My culture is not your costume.
On behalf of white...
Blonde tall woman?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay, you're...
Tim Burton, so, oh, there's another job
for Helen and Bonham Carter.
Oh, yeah, she's in.
They've gone off.
Have they gone off?
Have they gone off?
Have they gone off?
Johnny Depp will be in there.
Yeah, Johnny Depp will be in there, some.
Gosh.
Get some other actors.
I know.
That's the music, that's the soundtrack.
Jing-ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Ding-ding, ding, dh.
Tim Burton.
That's Tim Burden.
That's Tim Burden.
Tell me I'm wrong.
Number three on the list of the top six
other 1960 sci-fi things
the US should do on the moon.
teleportation tubes that were just raw dog.
Like we just jump in and it goes
fom. Yeah, right.
Shoots us. Like that place in Christchurch with the
tubes. Yeah, but you know like
there's these things and you jump in
like a carriage, like a train and it pium shoots you out.
I just want a raw dog.
Number two on the list of the top six other 1960s
sci-fi things the US should do on the moon.
Cryogenicly preserved heads in large jars
that you can talk to. Oh my God,
yes, I love. And get advice from.
Yeah, yeah. And number one
on the list of the top six other 1960s.
sci-fi things the U.S. you would do on the moon.
Well, of course, there's significantly less gravity,
so their guns won't work as well, so they're going to need
to make laser guns.
Yes.
Proper.
Have you a bit sound for a laser gun?
No.
Not a, let's get.
Give me the...
That's your sound.
That's your sound there.
That is the day stop six.
The Toastie Awards are back.
I can't believe it's rolled around again.
Pie Awards just been?
Yeah, Pye Awards out of the way.
These are my favourite kind of awards.
I love.
Fire Awards.
Yeah, they give you something to try when you're somewhere.
Yes.
You know?
Yeah.
Food-wise.
Yeah.
So it's the great toasty takeover, Ray,
and lots of places that don't usually do tosties, do toasties.
Yes, and it's through McClure's, which I think is just a fantastic marketing move from McClure's.
Yes, so great pickles.
And that's the rule, eh, you've got to use some of their pickles in the Toasty.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And do you know I had the winning Toasty last year?
You did?
The Fikette Falls, um, Stores.
store in Oratorua.
Fig-based.
It was fig, blue cheese, honey, and
oh my God, it was incredible.
I mean, when you told us, I was a bit like,
oh, that's a bit full noise.
And then I sent you a photo, and we were like,
you know, this year, O'Ketty Falls
only falls into the highly recommended category.
Wow.
No in the finals.
Okay, hit us. Hit us. Where we had in toasties.
Well, there's the dipper at Longroom in Auckland.
Okay.
A long room.
Yeah, there's the Mick Chickle and Bacon.
Tell me more.
So, okay.
Toast on the green in Auckland.
Hoggett stuck in spelt at Lyme Cafe in Rotorua
What's in that?
I'm imagining pig
I've got a photo of that
This is the photo of it
Look at it
That likes
And dare I say it
Very lush
Braised burrier brother
At Capus Cafe in Rotuah
Buria buria dip dip dip dip dip dip
Dipped dip dip dip dip
Pilled in the paddock
In Topor at Jimmy Coops
A prawn toasty at Madam Social in Napier
Prong Toast
I've never had a prawn toaster
With pickle
In France I had a lobster toasty
It was insane
It was like cheesy
Lobster toastish
But it was like
It was amazing
Oh yeah
Now best burgers in Havelock
North tiptoe in the line of
A copyright
Delivered by Ronald McDonald himself
With the Macrib Toastie
Oh
The MacRib
The MacRib toastie
Rubens Rudolph is at the offering
In Grey Town
That's obviously sounds like a very
Venison-based situation.
Piggy Bank at the offering at more
Wilson's and Marston.
So the offering there.
Oh, no, I want to try all of these.
The Maccadish melt at the jellyfish in Mapua.
Smoked Wagu, brisket, toastie at the
cafe at the Christchurch casino.
At the Cassie. At the Cassie.
Yum. Mrs. Mack McClure
at Johnny Kramer in Queensland, and this pickles on fire
at All Good Bagels in Queensland.
There's pickles on fire!
So no Hamilton.
Okay, no Dunedin, no Wellington, no New Plymouth.
Right.
But man, there's lots of places that don't have it.
I mean, if you've got the chance to try those, get in there.
If you go on NZ Herald, you can find the article and there's photos of all of them, and I'm looking.
Oh, yeah.
I'll say, I'm looking and I'm a liking, you know?
Yeah, I said, I didn't go to that article because I don't need that.
I'm already hungry.
Yeah.
I just went for a basic text list.
Oh, I'm rolling.
And I'm still hungry.
Play ZEM's Fletchbourne and Haley.
Play ZM's Fletchborn and Haley.
Well, this is the stuff of nightmares, guys.
In Kayapoi, Haley, very close to where you grew up in Rangiora.
You've twisted that.
My physical being was born in Rangiora.
Quickly moved to Wellington where my spiritual and mental birth was.
Let's never forget that you are from...
I'm not from rangy order.
But you've got that rungy hard tat on you across the back of your shoulder blades.
And I regret it every day.
Really?
That was a night.
What do you prefer to have Eastbourne Hard?
Yeah, Eastbourne Hard.
She's Eastbourne Massive.
She's, yeah, I'm Eastbourne Massive.
Now, a news story, a 16-year-old Kayapoi high school student was rescued after being left behind on a school mountain biking trip to McLean's Island.
How'd they do that?
So apparently there was no headcount at the end of the trip.
You've already got to round off on the bus.
Yeah, I would have thought, like, yeah, you round off on the bus.
Yeah, one, two, then you two, you had the number.
And, but, you know, these things happen.
And, yeah, apparently a final headcount wasn't done.
The school was in contact with the student.
So they sent out a rescue team.
They got police involved.
And, yeah, apparently the kid was rescued.
Emergency services assisted with the response.
Police sent the boy a mobile locate tech.
which he responded, gave coordinates
and that allowed the search party to find him
but he was left behind on a school trip.
Are the parents pissed off?
This is, yeah, their parents are, yeah,
one of the parents is in the news, like,
How did this happen?
How did this happen?
Yeah, yeah.
I think it's at that time
you've either got to recognise your child
as extremely forgettable.
Yeah, yeah.
And it will never be the lead in the school play
or as such a, uh,
you've been left behind.
When do I get left behind?
All the time.
Oh yeah, but that's because you guys are in a rush.
Literally daily we live in a school.
dreamly forgetable.
We say, hey, should we go hang out and have a coffee?
I feel so sorry for this kid.
Same.
I mean, it shouldn't have happened.
16, shouldn't it happen.
Resilient?
Shouldn't it happen.
Teaching a bit of resilience?
Yeah, but he did respond well, right?
He got the text.
He found out.
Oh my God, if I was the parent, I would be.
You'd be roped.
You'd be so upset.
You know, 100 years ago, 16 year to be preparing themselves for war.
Not getting left behind on the bus.
You know?
Well, think about that.
There was that kid, that Christmas.
His whole family went away.
when, like, they got on a plane, he got left behind, home alone.
There's a documentary, I saw this.
I saw the documentary too.
He took down two thieves that the police were unable to apprehend.
Using self-made booby traps.
It was unbelievable.
And a Martin.
Jordan cut out on an electric train.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Resilience.
Resilience.
No, but I thought, could we take calls now?
Like, when have you been left behind?
Oh, this happened all the time.
In groups, tour group?
Oh my God, crew ships.
Have you seen those videos of the people like running for the ship?
Like, wait!
That's, oh, that's awful.
What about the people who get left behind on?
snorkeling trips. That's actually my worst nightmare. That's actually my worst nightmare.
You've got to do a headcount. Yeah. Have you ever watched a movie about the couple that got left
behind on the Great Barrier? Yeah. A Great Barrier Reef? No. Just the most awful. And they go back
and they can't find them because they're straight. But don't they have like pontoons and boats
always sitting there. Oh, you see what you don't know. Maybe now. Maybe now. It is in hindsight.
As an idiot reaction. Yeah. I'm not getting back Uncle Greek. Oh my God. That would be hot.
But you do hear of divers as well. Like they surface and there's no boat. Yeah.
Just the worst
No, that's horrible
But you always hear about it as well
Like families
Like families was like 10 kids
They stop the minivan at a servo
Couple of them go wee
And then they take off and they leave like three of them behind
Yeah
Because there's so many kids
That's why they have 10
They're like man the van's running nice and fast
It feels lighter
God the kids are quiet
Yeah
It's because they're still at the service station
Yeah yeah you've lost half of them
We want you to call now
0800 Diles at M
966
When were you left behind
Or are we going to take calls from parents who left kids?
Oh, absolutely.
Fair start.
You were willing to admit that publicly.
Oh, 800,000-9-696.
When were you left behind?
A 16-year-old was left behind on a school mountain biking trip.
Did he still have the bike?
I was going to say to have his bike.
Start.
Yeah, but it was in the middle of nowhere.
Everyone's gone.
Yeah, start, though.
Where do you go?
Your instinct would be like, I'll just crack on.
But it's probably the worst thing to do.
No, that is the worst thing if you're lost, is to keep.
moving.
You stay by the
follow the hill
until you found water
and then follow the water
until you find the sea
and then have a swim
and you chill.
No.
Swim to land.
Great.
Yeah.
No, just have a dip.
Like, you know how great
you feel after a swim in the sea?
Yeah, actually it would make him feel good.
Maybe.
Maybe in summer.
Maybe in summer.
We want to know
when you've been left behind
and I tell you what?
No shortage.
My parents left my sister behind
when we moved house.
Lucky it was a small town
and she just got on her bike
and rode to the new house
crying because she was forgotten, she would have been 10.
Oh, 10! Resilience! Resilience!
She grew up to be the prison of the United States of America.
Somehow. Somehow. I don't know she would be.
I wasn't left behind, but when we're on a cruise ship from the US and Mexico,
eight people were left behind slash never made it back to the ship after taking a tequila
tour. They were all U.S. citizens and apparently their passports were still on the ship
so they couldn't get back into the country.
Oh my God.
How do you go about solving that?
What do you do there? Especially if they were U.S. citizens, but you know, on the browner
side of things.
Oh, yeah.
They're not getting back, Ken.
No.
No, no.
We purchased a house and we ended up having a two-day-old newborn baby when we shifted.
And she was asleep in her capsule, so we popped her in the spare room so she could sleep
whilst we got organised.
And, yeah, we got halfway to our new house.
And I said to my husband, I feel like we're forgetting something.
A human.
The new human.
The new human.
The new human you have.
Yeah, I mean,
very, very new human.
And to back to my offence, though,
I was very, very sleep deprived,
and I actually totally forgot I had a baby.
Yeah, I know, like you,
it's only had it for two days.
Yeah, two days totally...
They can't do anything.
They're just little nuggets, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, and she was in her capsule,
so it wasn't long she could go anywhere.
Yeah.
You keep telling yourself, Tash, you keep telling yourself.
She knows all about it.
She thinks it's hilarious.
Oh, that's good.
Yeah, I'd remind the kid as well.
Yeah, we did forget you.
once.
Somebody else,
the same situation
they had their baby
mid-December
and went to a
New Year's Eve party.
Pop the baby
in the spare room
and the capsule
to sleep
and then when the countdown
happened they're like
we've got to get out of here
because we've got a baby
but then they're left without it.
We've got a baby now.
We're going to go.
Ray, who did you leave behind?
Hey, good morning, guys.
So I'm in the Army.
I was an instructor
at Waiuru
training civilians
and training them into soldiers.
Right.
So we had a massive
final field exercise.
and we took the recruits out to, we call it the live firing range.
Oh, are they grenades, Ray? Are they grenades?
Slightly bigger. We're talking about the light armored vehicle.
All right. Cool. Okay.
So this recruit fell asleep in a patch of Tussack.
Yeah.
And we last thing we completely overlooked him because he was wearing camouflage.
You couldn't see him.
He couldn't see him. You couldn't see him.
It couldn't see him.
Camouflage worked.
It does at work.
Well, the camouflage really worked.
About three hours later, we'd gone back to our original position,
taking our holes, and this army youth turned up,
and out-pops our guy, accompanied by one of the range operators,
and we found this guy running through the live-firing...
No, you didn't.
No, no, no.
Was there a cool video of him running and explosions going off all around him?
And he's just like, boom, and the dirt's right now.
No, as soon as they saw them, they shut the whole, they shut the whole shoot down.
Oh, my God, resilience.
I mean, that's an actual real training right there.
You know, the training worked.
Yeah, yeah, well, it's probably as, yeah, as close as you get to the real thing in training.
Ray, question, do you, when you put on your camouflage, do you add some extra sticks in grass for authenticity and just to...
I'd add a bit of, you know, tussock.
I reckon add a bit more tusso.
Depending on the terrain, we will have prepared, well, we call them shrouds.
They're sort of like to go around your shoulders over your head and they're made of cloth.
I was going to say, certainly environmentally, like, you would have to adapt to that specific condition.
Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't.
Yeah, no point turning up as a beach and you're in the desert, you know, you're in the forest.
Yeah, four to fall.
And you're like, man, I came as the beach.
I've got six starfish and seashells and seaweed all over me.
Yeah, you're doing a sniping from the rock place.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm ready for Rockpools tonight.
There's quite a few of the soldiers at Normandy put starfish on their helmets, just to blend into the beach.
You've got a blend in with you.
That's why they got mowed down.
Some of them didn't have a starfish on their helmet.
The Nazis were like, that's a starfish, don't shoot that.
Don't shoot that.
We love starfish.
They're so cute.
They're so silly.
Yeah, yeah, it is running towards us at a rapid pace, but don't shoot it.
Ray, thank you.
Some messages in.
When were you left behind?
Apparently everyone, by the way.
With so many texts.
Oh, my God, yeah.
So many.
And, you know, we're hearing a lot from the 90s.
Mom had a couple of after-work wines.
Yeah.
And she didn't pick me up from school.
I would say I was about 11 years old at the time.
I sat outside the school.
6 p.m.
She came and finally got me.
6 p.m.
She didn't pick up the phone when the office ladies were calling her,
and all the teachers had gone home.
And the office ladies left saying,
look, I've got an appointment to go to.
I can't wait around with you.
That was the 90s.
That would never happen now.
A real not my problem.
Shout out, Otomothai Intermediate from Becky.
Shut out.
There's actually a memorial park bench out the front for Becky.
Yep.
And then three hour wait.
My name's Toby and I went on a school trip 10 years ago when we were in Ohakune and did a bike ride at a big group and the group left without me when we had a pit stop at the toilets.
This is exactly what happened to this kid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was three and left at the chemist.
My mother was really sick.
So I ended up tapping on the window as she was driving away.
I was running alongside the car tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap.
But she reckoned she didn't hear me.
She kept driving.
I think she tried to abandon you, to be honest.
If you're tapping on the window and she's like, I can't hear it, I can't hear it.
I was left behind as a child on a school trip at the palmie toilets.
I had to run after the bus.
And luckily someone just happened to look out the back window, traumatic.
Resilience. Resilience, right?
Resilience.
Not a human, but I was in a real hurry to leave home to get to a horse show, pack the car, hooked up the float and left halfway there.
I was like, I didn't put a f-m horse in that.
Had to go back for it.
Empty float.
Banging around on the road because it's got no weight in it.
Funny.
Wow, there we go.
Lechforn and Haley.
The government is proposing the replacing of petrol tax,
which adds 10 cents a liter in Auckland.
But a lot, like lots, right?
What used to do, they got rid of that, but it's lots.
10 cents.
I thought it was still on.
Isn't it like 70 cents a liter or?
So that's going to go, and you might be like, yippee, skipy.
That's great.
Yahoo, less tax, less tax.
Well, they're just switching out Peter for Paul.
Oh, but I liked Peter.
Electronic road user charges on all vehicles.
So this is something.
that people that had diesel cars or
truckies used to do and used to pay
for the kilometres that you drive on
the roads, right? Yes. Yeah.
This sucks. I drive quite fun. I don't know why, because
overseas diesel's just more expensive and it's just
but I don't know everybody's different.
Shannon's old car. Why New Zealand has
road user charges? Shannon's old, your old car
was diesel, eh? Which is so crazy.
Yeah. It did not look like a diesel
Volkswagen loved a little diesel. Yeah, and
whenever I was at the petrol station and if I
grab diesel, people would be like, no, no, no, no. And I'm
like, no, no, I know. It looks like I should put petrol
on it. And I know it looks like
I don't know.
I didn't grow petrol energy.
You've got big. You've got big.
When I worked at the service station, people just look for the cheapest one and they're
like, well, what, do? I'm going to use the black stuff.
Oh, no.
To be fair, they always filled it up for me. I would just stand there for a few seconds and
then come over.
I mean, don't actually work on four courts anymore. These were just strangers helping
Shannon.
Yeah, they're like, honestly, a few times a man would just come over and do it for me.
Beautiful blonde woman in distress.
It just never happens when you're a minger.
So you would have to buy.
Why'd you look at me when you said mingling?
He really threw his shoulder back towards me.
He turned over 100 and he went full 270 like an owl
to address the ming and a me and then we're back to beautiful shana.
No, road user charges were the worst
because you'd have to keep up to date and it's just too many numbers
and sometimes I'd get like 400Ks behind of whatever, you know, lots
and suddenly I'd owe like $500.
Oh yeah, okay well.
And you get fines for not paying them.
So they're talking about making this electronic
and if it all comes through,
it'll just be a thing that we all have to do
if you drive a car.
How's it know how far I've driven?
Well, it says it electronic.
That's what I mean.
So it sounds like it's going to be like watch.
It's probably going to be in your car.
There'll be some device maybe.
You do you know what I mean?
If it's electronic, how does it know?
We thought we would talk to a man
that may know something more about this.
He's an economist and he joins us from the airport,
maybe even the Kodoo Lounge.
Oh, beautiful.
Brad Olson, good morning.
Good morning, team.
Brady, is there any coffee moose in the Kourou Lounge this morning?
We're deeply invested in it.
Look, I'm actually standing outside to stay away from all the boarding calls.
So no coffee for me this morning.
Oh, Brady, thank you.
We appreciate it.
Now, I'm reading here, road user charges were introduced for diesel vehicles in 1978 in New Zealand, Brad,
because diesel wasn't taxed like petrol at the pump.
Now...
That's correct.
Yes, and you were talking about that before in terms of it.
You're right, it's about 70 cents a litre that you pay extra.
for fuel excise duty on petrol,
but you do the road user charges
for not only diesels these days,
but also for EVs.
The idea back in the day,
and the reason it's going to change
is that back in the day,
the idea was that the more sort of you drove
and therefore the more petrol you needed
would broadly be equivalent
to roughly how much damage you created to the road
and so how much you'd need to pay back into the system,
which is basically the same as road user charges.
Because I actually fly over a speed bump, man.
I just don't slow down my car.
But you're in a petrol car, so you're paying tax?
Bajum-d-dom-d-d-d-a. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
The thing is you're paying tax, but because cars are a whole lot more fuel-efficient these days,
your petrol cars are not using as much petrol as previously,
but they're causing more wear and tear.
So the idea is to move away from that and make it a bit more equivalent
so that all of the vehicles are doing it in the same sort of way with road user charges,
more sort of equitable outcomes so everyone's playing a bit more even-s-sevens.
Because I think about someone like my mum's got a hybrid,
and she fills up like once in a blue moon
and you saw how she's always driving
crazy on the roads and doing burnouts.
I'll say I actually felt unsafe in Bev's car.
I actually was clinging.
I did that, you know, she's racing against the dashboards.
She's causing a lot of potholes
and she's not paying the fuel tax.
So is that why they're doing this to even things out?
But basically, but also because
over time you've got this sort of question
of what do you do with hybrids? What do you do with EVs?
Because they can't pay the fuel with petrol tax.
But you've got to do it through the road, use the charge system
As Shannon's highlighted, though, it's a pain in the butt to do that in the way it's currently set up.
I mean, it's paper-based, it's frustrating.
You've got to buy like 1,000-kilometer increment.
So the idea is let's get away from that.
Let's use, I mean, geez, we've got AI that can do most things in our lives.
Let's get the technology to do it a whole lot more.
The truckies already do this.
A lot of the big trucking companies already have what they call E-Ruts, so it's all done online.
And that's, I think, we will be in a couple of years' time.
You'll have a little box in your car, like you see in Australia a lot of the time.
it'll mean you can do your own user charges, you can do your tolls, you can do all that sort of stuff
without actually having to go online, pay it to sort of do anything in paper, it'll just work for you.
So are people going to end up paying more or less or about the same as they are now?
Because the cost of living is insane.
Everyone's like struggling.
We don't need another thing.
We don't need more money to pay.
I like butter.
Well, I mean, geez.
Hey, look, butter prices did go down yesterday in the global dairy trade auction, but that's another conversation.
In terms of paying for petrol,
I think what you'll probably see is people
will pay roughly the same.
They might pay a little bit more,
but importantly, that might mean
a few less pot holes out there on the road.
To be honest, I doubt it.
I doubt it. I doubt it.
I don't care about the pot holes.
Brad Olson, Von Smith ZM Network,
I've got a question. I'm currently driving a 5-liter V8
Ford Mustang, and I'm getting
about 15 litres per 100 kilometres.
It's not fair that I should have to pay anything more.
I mean, to be fair, if you're
able to drive a Mustang, I think you're doing
all right, Vaughnoyne. It's a loner, Brad.
It's a loner, Brad, and I'm barely.
But, man, I'm having fun.
Call a question, though. Call a question, is Vaughn Smith of ZM Networks
doing, you know, taking rides, commissioned rides at all?
I would love to take you for a ride.
I think I'm going to say, is Vaughn Smith of ZM Radio
having a midlife crisis, also confirmed.
Lock it in. Lock it in.
Okay, so that's a...
My hair transplant is next week.
Is it? Okay, great.
Well, Brad, thank you for shedding some light on that.
So we can lock in paying more, a little bit more, in about two years' time.
Absolutely.
Good luck to us all.
And you'll still retain your moniker of Bad News, Brad.
Yeah.
Now go pop back in the Kuru Lounge, darling, and have a look if there's any coffee mousse there.
It's truly delicious.
Oh, I will.
Oh, I will.
Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Hayley.
How late is the average person going to sleep?
And I guess this would be for people who have a number.
normal schedule.
Yeah, because I was a
not a 4 a.m. I was a bit late last night.
I was 5 past 8. I got my 3 hours
last night and that's what I needed.
I popped in a lovely round 3 hours.
I should like go to the beach or something.
You know what I mean? Like we should hang out.
There was a full moon last night. It would have been a lovely night for the beach.
It would have been. Is that maybe why I've been waking up at 3.30?
The full moon.
Just to check it's not raging anxiety?
No.
Okay. Right.
You?
You sure?
Cripling.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it is.
Brain destroying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's good fun.
So the average time that, this is in America,
but I imagine it's pretty worldwide,
average American is going to bed at 10.36 p.m.
Okay.
The good old days of my life.
That would have been an early night.
I was a midnider.
Okay.
Like I loved a midnight.
Midnight felt like days done.
And then being an artist and having no job the next day, what time would you?
9.30 was like, and I was like early riser.
Wow.
Yeah, wake up at 9.30.
That was just how much sleep I got.
Wow.
Not anymore.
I don't remember myself.
I'm being like when I was a teenager and I could sleep 12 hours in a stretch.
Yes.
And she'd say, enjoy that while at last.
I'm going to sleep like this forever, woman.
And now look at me, I'm the mother.
Yeah.
When you get older, do you get less sleep?
Do you sleep less?
Yeah, I feel like my grandparents would always like go to bed early but be out the crack a door.
It's just cool.
No, my Nana was like 12 o'clock to bed, four o'clock in the morning to shake it up.
She just didn't sleep.
And also, I guess there's an older person.
You're burning less energy.
You're not running around so much.
Yeah, she was running around.
So in bed at 1036, don't fall asleep till 1118.
That's pretty good.
This is the average.
The average, average.
Taking about 42 minutes to fall asleep after lying down.
I wish.
I'm a toss at Turner.
People wake up three times per week,
regretting that they didn't go to bed earlier.
Yep.
Now, reasons for staying up late.
You said it's not another episode of Netflix.
No, not at all.
Is it TikTok?
No, they're not even on there.
It's sort of doom strong?
Not a doomscroll, but boy, oh boy, I love it.
So the top four reasons in fourth place, quality time with your partner,
going, I guess if you have kids, right, they've gone to bed,
that's the only time you have with your partner.
I'm going to stay up late, make the most of it.
You know what I mean?
That was a weird noise, man.
Make the most of it.
15% of people avoided sleep to delay the start of the next workday.
Like, oh my God, if I got to bed, I've got to wake up and go to work.
So I'll just stay awake and enjoy this moment where I'm not working.
literally just going to blink and be up and
going to work. That's sad. They don't have a job
that they enjoy and are passionate about like we do.
21% this in the second
place because it was
just their favourite time of the day. They just thrive at night.
They get a bit of energy. Big creative energy.
Night owls. So the number one
reason for people staying up so
late and most of the time
regretting it was
unfinished household tasks.
Chores. Chores. What?
So we're not staying up watching another episode of Netflix.
We're chores and going, I've got to do the
dishes, got to do the washing, got to get everything done, got to get everything sorted before
tomorrow, I'm up, I'm cleaning, I'm packing, I'm doing all the stuff.
Just leave the dishes in the sink.
Guys, I vacuumed my house at 11pm last night.
What?
Yeah.
11pm!
Man, I noticed that thing was dusty and I was awake.
Okay.
So I got up.
Got the vac.
That's not going to help you go to sleep, though.
No.
No.
But boy, oh boy, that floor is shiny today.
Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley.
Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Haley.
Oh, I hate that.
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
I'm preparing myself for some juicy yams.
Oh, okay.
Not juicy yams.
I love yams.
I like roast yams are real good.
I love roast yams.
There's no other way to yam.
I don't yams.
How else are you cooking yams?
I don't know.
Mash yam? Never tried.
Yum.
All right.
You got Kuminow over a yam.
Oh, 100%.
I've got a parson up over a yam.
Yeah.
Yams are a treat.
No yams.
Yeah, but if they disappeared off the face of the planet,
wouldn't be sad about it.
I would be fine.
I get over it.
I've got bigger fish to fry.
I've been moving on.
I've been moving on.
Well, not yams, but yarn.
Bigger yams to roast.
We are expecting juicy yarns right now because a nurse has been found guilty by the health
practitioner's disciplinary tribunal, which is a very hard thing to say and so many letters in it.
Yeah.
You did good.
Good boy.
You did real good.
I'm accessing health files.
So she looked up the health files of babies.
Yep.
Dead people.
Oh.
And her fellow co-workers is just kind of like anybody.
She had no reason to look up these records.
Some of them she did have permission, it says?
Yes.
Some of the, but no, but other than that,
pure nosiness was the reason that she looked them up.
See, this is why I couldn't have access to any kind of database.
Any kind of secret thing.
I know it's the same for cops, right?
Like, you've got to have a reason to,
but I'd just wait for a colleague to go to the bathroom and use their login.
And then search someone that, you know, you're saying.
Same with finance companies.
You can't just run a credit chance.
check on someone because you have to have a reason to do it
because it turns up on their file.
Right.
Because I remember asking my dad.
I was like, can you do a credit check on me?
I want to know what credit.
He was like, I can, but it'll show up.
You have to have a reason.
Right.
Couldn't go looking for your...
The pharmacist who supplied the rest home with medicines
never permitted the nurse to access any of her health records,
but found out she had any way including documentation
regarding her breast reconstruction surgery.
What, so then all of a sudden she's like,
you'll never guess Janine at the pharmacy's got new breasts.
Yeah.
You know those.
Fake.
Fake.
Fake.
And I know, because I looked it up.
Yep, she used to have tiny, tiny little things.
Itty-bitty-titty.
Itty-titty committee.
And now...
She was the bloody CEO.
Big whoppas.
Big whoppas.
Big woppers.
Now, now you don't.
Imagine those who'd get in the way at the dispensary.
Or they would, they're leading over.
Yeah, well, it takes them getting used to it.
Yeah, you've got to adjust.
Yeah, you've got to adjust.
See, wild.
Mad.
Just having a little nosy.
But see, this is at least like places like, you know,
nurses the police and there are rules
right and I'm guessing that everyone that looks
there's a electronic trail
there's a trace yeah that's one yeah yeah
well there would be some databases at people's
workplaces that anyone can look at
I okay how do I say this without
incriminating
no it wasn't me
maybe don't oh wasn't you I worked for a
freelance creative space
okay and there was a
shared Google drive
oh yeah and one
day I just went sort of digging
and found everyone's invoices
so I knew what every individual
was getting paid
and it was different
Did that rock the boat? Yeah, okay, there you go.
There was immense disparity
including some like
immense immense BS. Right.
Wow, okay.
Excuse you, but they're...
Wait, did you share this with anyone else or...
With everyone else?
Okay, great.
Other than the people that were unjustifying
where they would fold up your
pay slip and put a staple in it
and if you held it up to a light,
you could see what other people's paste like to do.
Well, no, Vaughn, if you took the staple out
and then put a new staple in.
And then as a budget cut, they stopped using staples.
They'd just fold it up and put it in your locker.
So you could just be like, whoops, that fell out.
Oh, my Lord.
So we want to know this morning.
What have you locked up in your work system?
Yes.
When have you had a nose?
When have you had a little nosy?
What about if you had a customer database of some kind
and they were hot?
Would you go through it, find the number?
Only if you're hot.
I think the rule states.
Mingers need not.
The law states.
Only if you're hot, Mingas need not.
Mingers are not allowed to access a database for anyone that's five hot points above them.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
You have to be within.
Kui.
Yeah, within Kui.
It's half the scale.
I think it's got to be two.
A five could approach a seven, but a five dare not approach an eight.
Yeah.
But an eight could approach a ten, but prepare for heartbreak.
Eights can go down.
Eights can approach twos.
Yeah.
You can always go below.
Only if you're hot.
is dare not
0,800,000
em is our number
give us a call
already starting
to get some
text in
969696
What have you
looked up
in your work system
What did you look up
in the work system
Someone has
A nurse
She was at a retirement village
Right yeah
Our pure nosiness
Is that how they've described this
And the
Went through some health records
Yeah
What would be the worst thing
That would pop up
In your record
Everyone's say it on three
On your health record
That time you went to the A&E
And they had to remove
That what
Yeah
I reckon it would be
no, when I got bitten.
That's right.
Two street children.
That was before Sandringen was gentrified.
Oh my God, we were trying our best to clean that place up.
Get this.
Houses in Sandringen?
500,000 at the time.
So many messages coming in
about what people have like had a nosy at
and like on the work database or whatever.
And you know what?
It's not always ending well for people.
People are losing jobs over this.
Anonymous. Good morning.
Good morning. What happened?
Yeah, well, I've got two stories.
The first one, I had a friend.
I can't say where they worked, but they were trailing a new AI
that was connected to their database.
And one of his colleagues was just like,
hey, I'm just going to ask her what everyone gets paid.
And it sent through the entire list of everyone's salaries.
Oh, no.
Wow.
Jesus.
Wow.
You'd just print that off and save it for the next pay negotiations, eh?
Yeah, and be like, well, I sort of have an inkling as to what they're getting paid.
I don't want more.
Yeah, okay.
And what's the other story of snooping?
Yeah, the other one was my partner, and he was working at the passport office years ago,
and he had a bit of downtime, and he was like, hey, I'm just going to look up myself.
And he looked up himself, and a big alert came, and he got pulled in the office and fired
because he didn't have permission to access the file.
Oh, you're not supposed to use it.
A big alert came up, and he found it.
That was how he found out.
sleeper agent.
Yeah, what?
Someone read out the code words and he said a gallon.
Well, you're not even allowed to look up your own passport?
No, apparently not.
You need permission to access every file.
But it was mine and they were like, we don't care.
You're fired.
Wow.
That's good to know.
That's good to know that there's that kind of system in place.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We can't just be looking up anyone.
Anonymous, thank you.
Jess, did you have a nosy in the system?
Good morning.
I used to work for a phone company and I would, I was 18,
at the time, and I would check the numbers
that my boyfriend was texting.
Oh, Jess.
Oh, me, my.
Yes, and was he above board?
Was he being well-behaved?
No, certainly not.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
Okay, wow, wow, wow.
And you had the proof.
Yeah, wow.
Yeah.
And we had a track record.
And we just like, oh, she's on a $10
dollar text plan.
Like, at least get him
monthly.
Exactly.
Yeah, okay.
Oh, my gosh.
And so did you end it with him
when you found out this?
No, I was.
18 and dumb, so of course I didn't.
Yeah, you can fix him.
You can fix them if you keep trying.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, Jess, thank you for sharing so many messages.
I just looked up to see if any of you guys in studio
had ever purchased shoes from a place of work.
Have we?
I don't know.
Have we?
Have we?
Tell us that, have we?
You'll probably find a Haley Sprow in there.
Yeah.
If it's shoes.
Have we?
Yeah.
I used to work at a power company and look up people I knew to see if they'd pay
their bills or had bad credit.
I worked at the city council and they searched.
dog control records to see which neighbor complained about
our dog?
Oh, naughty.
Probably just deal with your dog.
It'll be the easy way to do that.
Go on.
You've got a yappy dog.
I do not have a yappy dog.
You got a yappy dog.
Excuse me, I don't put up with any yap.
Your dog nipped me once.
Get more cats.
It did not.
You'll get my dog put down talking like that.
Bip me hard on the ankle.
It didn't have reason.
You were urinating in the hinge again.
Well, I was invited.
I was invited for a do.
You were marking its territory.
It wasn't having it.
Yeah, that's true.
I looked up celebs when I worked at the telecommunications.
I went not going to say which company.
At the contact centre, I'd look up celebs.
It was fun.
You could see who they were calling and texting.
You're not supposed to bloody do that.
Do you remember?
It was years ago.
There was a massive scandal at the IRD,
and they'd looked up like Jonah Lomo and Paul Holmes.
Yeah, you're going back some years.
Yeah, it was like early 2000s, I feel like.
I work in a bank and people get regularly fired for celebrity surfing,
which is just looking at people's accounts on their salary payments.
Oh my God, that's so bad.
Celebrity's on you.
Look at mine.
It sucks.
Have a look.
It sucks.
How?
I used to work in a gym and I checked the system to see how old the super hot guy with massive shoulders was.
12 years younger than me.
I married him.
Then what, did they message them?
Yeah, I guess so.
Being like, hey, hi.
We had a lady looking up account limits that tried and find herself a rich farmer husband.
Got caught when the wives started ringing complaining that.
that she was calling them after hours, what?
What?
What?
I mean, when you look up to see his account limit,
also look up to see if he's married.
Yeah.
Might not have a joint account, though.
You might not know.
Why, some wild story.
He used to work at an airline
and search up when famous people were flying in.
Oh, yeah.
He used to work at a power company.
I'd just look up people in you
to make sure they were paying their bills.
Yeah.
Worn read that out.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Patsy's bought shoes.
Oh, Patsy's bought shoes.
Patsy has, your mum has purchased shoes from this person and Fletch did, but not for over eight years.
That's probably when you bought your elastic and royals to get a town.
Eight years ago, you shopped at the same store as Patsy, but we're not in the database.
No, because you know Patsy and I have the same cumps.
Oh, it's cumps.
It'll be cumps.
It'll be cumps.
Yeah, it'll be cumps.
They are actually really comfy.
Well, that's why they're called cumb.
Well, they're sensible.
They're sensible.
It's like hush puppies are made from quiet dogs.
Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley.
Fact of the day, day, day.
day
Well, it's
Well, it's linguistic oddity
Weak here, fact of the day
Linguistic
Test, Fletch, what's a pangram?
We did this the other day.
Yeah, so you should remember.
This is how you learn things.
It's the thing with the letter in each of the words
From the alphabet.
Alphabet.
Almost, an example of a pangram?
The lazy X-rayed xylophone jumps over the lazy fox
Wow lots X's and Zs in that one
Yeah
Well you've got to cover your bases yacht
You're really got to cover you
Yeah
Yacht
Queen Yacht
Yeah done
Haley what's an anodrome
It is a word that
Spelled backwards spells a different word
Correct what's a Janus word Fletch
You were away for this
What do you think is a Janus word
Clue Janus
Yeah
It's just words you say
That's kind of straight out your ass
no it's a word that has it's one word with two opposite meanings like dust yeah dust is to remove dust
but it's also to add dust yeah like nugget gold nugget chicken nugget no not quite no it's
it's opposing meetings no there's another one give me another one give me another one that's just a homophone
isn't it give me another one hey I know I'm not a homophone whoa I'm not a homophone I can not believe
you just fired that his way it's so awful I'm not homophonia you're a homophonia you're a homophon
I'm not a honophonobic.
Yeah, you are.
I love that.
Give me another one, dust dust.
Dust, trim, trim.
Seed is to plant seeds but also remove seeds.
Yeah, beautiful.
A sanction is to approve or permit and also to penalise and punish.
A nugget, chicken nugget.
No, gold and a dog.
Today, the linguistic oddity of the day is an isogram.
What is an isogram?
Oh, okay.
Iso and gram, both Greek and origin.
ISO.
So it's isolated, it's singular.
Graham
On Instagram
On the gram
Nope
Iso is Greek for equal or same
And Graham is written or letter
Any further guesses on what it means
Just tell us like
I'm sick of these games
This is how we
I'm sick of your game
I'm sick of the games
I'm sick of the games
No more games
An isogram
Is there a word or phrase
In which no letter repeats
Each letter appears exactly ones
Like nugget
Nope 2 Gs
It's literally got 2 G
right in the middle.
How would you have spout it?
I've always spout it was
1G and an omelot on the A.
Can I get a six pack of chicken Nugetz?
Lumberjack is an isogram.
Cat.
That's a nice...
Yeah, but come on.
That's a short word.
I've got you.
I've got him.
No, you're right.
I'm not saying you're wrong.
I'm just saying I'm drunk of you some more.
Just because it's a single word.
Fluoride.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was lame.
Lots of words.
Fony.
Do you want to know the long?
That's the longest, no it's not, uncopy-writable.
This sucks.
Hydroformatic, hydromatic, actually.
Why, it's Greece's lightning!
So the longest, in the English language, the longest English isogram, is subdermatologn, nope.
Try again.
Wow, that's embarrassing.
Subdermatoglyphic.
God, this is like watching him trying to say bagminton.
Bagmongting.
Badminton.
It's a bugmongtongong.
So, dermato, that's, yeah, du, just subdermatum.
Toglific is the longest
English is a great example
Uncopyrightable
15 litres
At
Yeah
At cat
Is
A cat of
No at cat both repeats
A and T
No I was saying two separate words
Oh right
You entered at
You entered a two letter word
For an isogram
Well you're welcome
I'm not wrong
He's not wrong
But he's not exactly challenging himself
And that's what I want
On my classroom
Penis
It's not a competition
P penis is another one
Pagina
No it's not
Two A's
Damn
Two A's and two Hops
Got me there.
A three, actually.
What?
What about Vigemite?
No.
Dude, the E is the second and four.
Veggie mite.
That's not a word, and there's two E's in it still.
There's three E's in Vegemite.
Yeah, Gle-Mate.
No, there's still three E's.
You change the I to an A, and it doesn't even repeat.
It's a vegamit he's thinking of.
It's a knockoff.
It's a parallel important...
Vigermit.
Yeah.
Peanut.
It's a yeasty spread.
Yeah, Vigamette.
me. I also take it back, vagina doesn't have
three holes. I was including the butt.
Hey it's good to know. Hey Lee. Wait a minute.
Jane Sprell. I'm sorry I was including
the butt. It's got two A's. Next.
So, today's
fact of the day is that an isogram is a word
or a phrase in which no letter repeats
itself. The longest in the English language
is 17 letters long and it's sub-dermatoglyphic.
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
Do do ZM's Fletch, Worn and Haley.
Play ZDem's Fleshworn and Haley.
If you have been around on the dating apps for a long time
and I have some friends that, man, they've been kicking about maybe like a decade.
And I've never really, I've gone on dates, some successful, some not.
Install it, uninstall it.
Uninstall it.
Get back on.
Take a break
Ah, vow never to use them again
Download the apps
And it's
They're not finding what they're looking for
The one, their love
Turns out could be you
And maybe you have too high expectations
Oh, okay
But then is it good to aim high?
I would be like
If it's not good enough for you
You're allowed to say so
Yeah
But apparently people just going
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah
Setting too high as stand this
Stand alive, stand alive
Nah, nah, nah, nah
Nah, nah, not.
Staying alive?
What about, nah, not, not.
Not dating a five, not dating a five.
Nah, not, not.
Go for a nine.
Nine.
You're the one that writes these stupid parody.
I've written one for ages.
But if you're saying no to a five,
maybe you're not a nine, you know?
How dare you say that to her?
Wait, so you're saying the advice,
and that's crazy you would actually look me in the eye and say.
I didn't look at anyone.
You looked at it right in the eye and you said maybe you're not a nine.
I am an outspoken 7.2.
and I'm aware of it, okay?
So a lot of people just saying
that they're having a terrible time,
inability to form quality connections,
inability to get good conversation going,
can't match with people,
a lot of people sending out likes,
not getting them back.
And they are saying,
dating experts,
the trick is you have to lower your standards,
shift your mindset.
But also, like,
the dating apps are also rigged as well,
you know, for the hot people.
There's minga talking.
No, it's like a true minga.
It's like a true minga.
But it's actually, like,
it's actually,
proven, it's been talked about a lot. Yeah, totally.
It is that the apps are, you know,
a certain small percentage of people.
Really? Yeah, and I mean, of course
they're hot and attractive, but that just means
everyone else's... They're handpicked to do better.
Yeah. Or something, that's some way
they fill it out makes it better. It's algorithmical.
Yeah, it's algorithmical.
Is it out... Is it a word?
Like, it's the algorithm. Is that the...
Your authorimigical.
Your algorithmic... It's al-marignical.
Yeah, I mean, it was...
But it's not a word it is now.
Al-Gor-Rithmical.
Well, it's the algorithm.
Does that mean algorithmic-l-lidly?
Al-Garithmicl is a five-piece band known for the inter-a-vita-jav-a-chavis.
It's one of our favourite bands.
So they're saying apps are tools, not promises of fairy tale romances.
You're in there looking for Prince Charming.
He's probably not on an app.
Prince Charming's already got a wife.
You know what I mean?
See, dating is a chance for fun and growth, not just finding the one.
So don't just swipe off of everyone because they're not the perfect.
picture of what you like.
Go out on these dates. You're going to get better at dates. You're going to learn how
to chat. We put up a quick little poll asking you
have you had to lower your standards and your expectations
on these dating apps, singles, singles only.
58% of people said yes.
42% of people said no in our quick little poll.
Nothing hurts more than lowering your standards and then they don't swipe back.
Like you said, I actually don't think that's a bad thing.
It's impossible to find someone with everything I wanted.
I'm picky and I lowered my physical bar
dropped from an 8 to perhaps a 6
and went for the
F boy kind of look
Oh no no
I always used to go for the F boy kind of look
And I've been dating a very sweet
Wonderful nerdy guy for 14 months now
Never been romanced or looked after so well
This is what you ladies don't know about the nerds
We try hard
And you'll go from a 2.4 gigahertz
Security Wi-Fi to a 5
And that is so safe
They will mesh Wi-Fi your house
your whole house up.
No more buffering.
No more black spots in the house for Wi-Fi.
Oh, I know.
But isn't it a beautiful sentiment, actually?
So if you're on these apps and you're struggling to find the right one
and you're like, what's going wrong?
Maybe you need to sort of look at yourself and go,
one, am I a minga?
Double-check that.
Double-check that one.
And two, am I setting my own expectations too high?
Play ZM's Flash for One and Haley.
Producer Shannon in particular is excited about the return of a tuck shop classic
I called the Moosies
Moosies
I called the Moosies too
We called the Moosies
They were frozen milk
So there would be
Moosies
But then I thought they were going
For a moose kind of a vibe
No it's what they did with Moosies
Made by the same people
They made juicies
And Mooseys
Yes
So Mooseys was I think
Just because it was made
And that's why we said moosies
Because it was like juices
But it's not just a particular
It's not just Moosies
Because they've been around
They haven't gone away
But a particular flavour
That I can't describe
what the flavour blue is.
Blue moon.
Wait, are you sure this has gone away and has come back?
I thought it's always been there.
I'm a moosey connoisseur and I've had these across the years.
Sometimes with my adult money, this week I bought rainbow paddle pops.
Yum, they're good.
Rainbow paddle pops?
Also adult money?
Yeah.
Because you know you're buying an immature drink.
Well, that's the thing and I had it before dinner last night.
Try and stop me.
I won't.
And a better woman.
Yeah.
Destiny's child son.
song about you. Because it's milk, hey.
It's frozen milk. It's just like a frozen milk thing. But I've had
mooseys over the years as a treat and I
have never seen, since I was in
primary school in the 2000s,
the blue moosey. But what flavour
is blue? It's impossible that
you were in high school in the 2000s by the way, because it's
only 2013. It's not
Vaughn. It's not why. It's crazy. But they used to be
50 cents and the blue flavor was
the best flavor but it would sell out
instantly at my primary school. We only had
chalky and banana at Queen Margaret.
Yeah, I remember the chocolate, the classic.
Yeah, yeah.
Poor, definitely not.
Well, we had the blue ones.
Blue!
And it was, yeah, it was so good.
And then yesterday on TikTok, I saw someone say,
drop everything, guys, the blue ones back.
Now, I will say it's a more natural-looking blue color now.
Nothing natural about this blue.
It says on the packaging, natural color and flavor.
Where's that blue coming from?
I've not spirulina, maybe?
Yeah, it's...
Blue spirulina.
Have you not seen Star Wars?
There's one stop bringing up Star Wars.
Like once in a blue moon, I've seen Star Wars.
There's blue milk, there's Blue Milk Skywalker drinks
and a New Hope and the...
Food colouring, born.
And the more recent sequels.
They used to be like neon teal.
Like it was like a really, really unnatural colour.
Now they've tried to, yeah, go for this pastel-y kind of spirulina look.
So we've got a milk protein concentrate, reconstituted skim milk, sugar cream,
melter dextrin, soluble fibre, stabilises, emulsifier flavour and colour.
Looking on TikTok, people have spotted them in Havlock North.
Okay, so it's all happening in Havlock North next weekend.
Oh my God.
I will pay you double.
But have you gone to the...
Done.
Oh, no, the local new word burnt down, didn't it?
My new world burned down, which sucks.
So I'm on the...
They would have melted the Muzis.
They would have gone first.
They would have been the first to go.
The frozen would have been the most affected.
But if someone can find these, please let me know,
because this is going to make my childhood.
You can order a box of $50 for $52.
straight from a supply.
More than a dollar a thing.
God, that's gone up, eh?
Yeah, the purse has been taken.
Remember when juices were 80 cents, that's the rules.
Yeah, no, juicy.
How much of juicy is now at the tuck shop?
Oh, we buy juicy.
Every now and then.
What?
I'd have a juicy in the freezer.
Yeah, in summer.
Yeah.
Are you serious?
Just rip the end off with your tatures.
Yeah.
You get a bread knife and you'd...
Yeah, you get a bread knife.
Always a bread knife cut through it.
It was so much better, right?
It was so good.
Can't create the little corner.
Oh, no, that used to drive me insane.
The kids that would bite a corner off the juice.
and then just like
and then you're just less
with a flaviless
with a flavourless ice block.
Yeah,
and then they've got like a sack
of the sort of sweet juice.
Yuck and it's mostly spit.
Yeah, it's spit.
It's so much spint.
Trouble, you all make me sick.
Okay, so 10 juicies
I've just found here at New World
779 for 10.
That's a good deal.
But that's a 100 mil juicy.
I feel like juicy seems to be
a 200 mil.
No, they were at least her at high school.
They were shrinkulation.
That's right in the 90s.
They were frozen juice.
Everything was huge in the 90s.
It was actually your school was so poor.
They were just pouring, um, watered down Raro into a New World plastic bag and freezing it.
Yes.
And then we're letting all the kids have a suck on a corner.
And a glad bag and it was 50 cents.
Yeah.
Don't poverty shame him.
Yeah, don't too close to home.
You had poor skulls.
At least you had a frozen treat.
Yeah, this is true.
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