ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - February 26th 2026

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

On today's Big Pod Mayochup drama Top 6 - Signs your partner is addicted to corn New Plastic surgery trend Kiwi's are drinking less Doctors Vs Vets debate Pride and Prejudice remake Hayley needs a cobbler recommendation Impossible Phoner - Has someone disappeared on you? Lily Allen Full Interview SLP - Do you dress to match the artists vibe at a concert? Fact of the day John Aiken - MAFS & Relationship advice The girlies lunch with John Aiken What's your yuck habit? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

from the ZM Podcast Network. This is... Fleshwon and Haley's Big Pod. Thanks to animates. Making happy happen for pets. Good morning. Welcome to the show. Fletch Fawn and Haley God,

we've got a busy, big show for you today. It's actually unbelievable. Champ-packed. Lily Allen joins us after 8 o'clock. How good. And so is John Aiken from Maps. We had it been a few weeks ago, didn't we? Yeah, we've got your relationship questions.

for him today. Yeah. So he's in with us after 8.30. You went for lunch with him yesterday. We did. We cannot... Me and the producer girl

he went to lunch with John yesterday. I can't actually share everything he divulged to us. Oh really? Man, we got some insider goss, didn't we gals?

You got some spoilers. Well, some spoilers, but also just an inside look. The top six is on the way? Yeah, I read an article yesterday. The signs that your partner may be addicted to

adult content. Oh goodness me. Addicted, oh gosh. Internet-based video adult content. Oh no. Little short films. I'll give you the... Documentaries.

I'll leave the rundown from that, but also the other top six signs your partner's addicted to adult content. Next on the show, Heinz, the people that make all the sauces. The ketchup company, aren't they, over a tomato sauce? A little bit embarrassing for them. They've got some mail on their face.

After this news. after this news. We'll delve into that next. The Fletchhorn and Haley, Big Pod. Well, the people that make all the ketchips. Hines. Hines. Are they called something different here? No. No, but they know what you're talking about.

They own Watties, though, right? Are they the people that own Watties? We're going to need to quit Google. Well, this story comes to us from a Canadian website. Craft Hines. Right. Hines Watties Limited is a New Zealand-based food producing. It's Hines Waddy's all the same.

I think it's all the same people, yeah. Heinz Watties. It's like when you see that infographic of all the food companies that own everything in the world. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So they're all sort of owned, yeah,

by one mother or father company. Well, they are the Canadian press reporting that Hines Mayo Chup is a new product there. It's mayonnaise and ketchup. I thought it was mayonnaise in a solidified ball on a stick, like a chupp-a-chub. What color would you call that? Like a delicious.

Are you okay? Just a couple of sneezes there. But no, I had it. And then it caused a couple of sneezes. Right. Well, they've launched us, uh, Mayo Chup. It was a crowd source named, uh, name, M-A-Y-O Chup, like Chuppa-Chup, yeah, as in Ketchup.

As in Ketchip. Yeah, it's, uh, what, there's a name for that, eh? Is it? Hybrid. A hybrid? A hybrid? Oh, is that what you just call it, a hybrid name? We use two bits of a word?

I don't know. Well, uh, um, It turns out that, according to some linguistics and those that deal with creed dialects, what's Cree? Where's that from? Cree dialects. Criole. Is it Criole? Yeah, Creole's French of origin, isn't it? Cree dialects form of vast dialect continuum across Canada. Across Canada? Yeah. Well, apparently, it's slang for shitface.

Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. It hasn't translated well. in many parts of Canada, from the Rocky Mountains to the west, to Labrador and the east. I love that they have a place called Labrador. Labrador. That's cute. Well, the dogs are named after the place.

That's where the dogs come from. Because Newfoundland's up there too and Newfoundland dogs come from it. No, the place is named up. They saw the cute dogs and they're like, what a great. Yeah, why would we name ourselves after that cute dog? Yeah, of course. You fool. Yeah.

So what does it mean? Sorry, say again? So it means shit face. Shipface. It basically translated. it hasn't translated well. And I guess they're just like, well, we're here now. So this has already got a name.

It's fry sauce is the name for a condoment of often served with French fries. That's a combination of tomato ketchup and mayonnaise. Because in, I think, Colombia and some parts of Mekalombia, there is, they love the sauce, which is half mayo, half tomato. Do they call it salsa golf? No, I don't know. It's an Argentina and Uruguay. It's called salsa golf, and it was popular at golf clubs.

So people would get it at golf clubs. I like... So that's why they'd be like, oh, that's the golf sauce. But it's like when you go to Maccas and you mix the mayo and the ketchup sashes, it's yum. I love like chopoli, like aoli and tomato sauce, ketchup. Yum. You know, when you get a bottle of fries at a pub and they have aoi and you say, can I get some tomato sauce? I like spicy aoi.

When you get aoi and then you put in some kaita fire or something, yeah, yeah. Yeah. stuff. So they're going to change it or no? I don't know. There hasn't really been a word from them if they will. So you said it was a crowd source name. I think mayo chaps uninspired. Yeah, me too.

Like be more creative. Kitchen A's would have been way to do. Kitchen A's is so much better. Yeah. Does someone own ketchup though? The trademark or the name? No, I don't think so. I mean, they probably do. I just googled other brand names that didn't translate well. Of course, famously there's the Mitsubishi Pajero.

Pahero. Pahedul. Is Wanker in Spanish? Yeah. And they were branding cars all over the world with that. Oh, yeah, Bahero. Oh, dear. The Mazda La Puta, released in 1991, translates to the prostitute in Spanish.

Wow. See? Honda Fita, FITTA, translated to a vulgar term for female genitalia in Sweden, Norway and Denmark. Yeah. It's a Honda Feta. Oh. You don't to talk about the fita like that. Don't you reference my fita?

Mercedes Benz entered the Chinese market as Benzzi, which means rush to die. Oh, God. Coca-Cola marketed in China, it was Kyokila, translated as to bite the wax tadpole or female horse stuffed with wax. Right. Did they not run this past anyone in the office that spoke Chinese or Mandarin? KFC's finger-looking good slogan translated in China is,

eat your fingers off. Ikea had a set of bunk beds that were called the Guttvik bunk beds and that translated to German into German quite badly There's quite a few HSBC had a marketing slogan Assume Nothing which was translated to some countries

As do nothing We got great I bank with them that's my kind of vibe Just lazy Do Nothing The Flet's one in Haley Big Pod From the Fletchborn and Haley group chat, this is the top six.

Hello there, and actually a really interesting article, the serious backbone about porn addiction, and how back in the day you had to buy the magazines or the VHS tapes. Yeah. And have somewhere to store them, and it was a secrecy thing. And not everybody had a TV with a VHS in a bedroom, or they couldn't transport it around easily, take it in the car, etc.

Now you can flick out your phone and it's... Dude, anything is at any time. Yeah. Anywhere. Apparently. Yeah. Apparently can do that. So porn addiction's taken off with the invent of the internet and the accessibility of the internet.

This article says the signs are there's a loss of interest in sex. You find yourself alone at night. The content becomes more and more extreme. Your partner's protective of their phone. Oh. And excuses and denials are commonplace. This was really interesting. Men with female partners who had a porn addiction

are worried that if they open up, their friends will tell them how lucky they are to have such an insatiable spouse. Oh. And women, on the other hand, might hear that it's their fault because they didn't keep their husband or male partner satisfied. Yeah, right. And they wouldn't be a problem, but it's more than that. That's wonderfully sexist.

Yeah, it is, eh? Yeah. Men, oh, you're lucky woman. Oh, you're bloody fun. Yeah. We love it. We're used to it. We love it.

Well, I've got the top six. slightly more light-hearted signs that your partner might be addicted to online content. Okay. Number six on the list, you keep finding them smashing the pipes under the sink until a hot plumber turns up. Yeah. Just cutting them and they were like, oh, there's a binger. Yeah. Try the next plumber in the phone book.

That'd actually be a great marketing campaign if you were a hot plumber. Yeah, live out your fantasy today. Yeah, yeah, hot plumber. Like hot tradies. That would be a great company, wouldn't it? Hot tradies. God, it'd be good. Yeah.

You'd make money. You'd make money. They were like little sort of fixer-up a job. Because then would you call? Yeah, yeah. Are you going to take the chance? Jay and J construction or hot tradies guarantee? Yeah.

I'm going hot tradies. Would you let your partner be like if you were seeing someone and they were like, oh, I've got a new job at hot tradies? Would you be okay with that? 100%. Yeah. But I'm okay with a lot more than a lot of people. Yeah, okay.

Number five on the list of the top six sons, your partner is addicted to adult content. They are constantly ordering taxis places even though they've got no money and nowhere to pay. And they don't look legit these. They're black London cabs, which is weird. Yeah. You don't usually have those in New Zealand. Number four on the list

of the top six times your partners are addicted to online content. Yeah, I know. They're all saying, yep. They're disappointed at well-behaved nurses. Oh. They're disappointed when a nurse is professional. Yeah. And wearing scrubs.

Yeah. That's so disappointed. It's not hot. Number three on the list of the top six signs of your partners are addicted to online content. They order multiple pizzas in the hope that there's a hot pizza delivery person. Again, a great company name. Hot pizza, hot pizza? Hot delivery. Yeah, person.

Wink. Hot pizzas, even hotter delivery, guys. Number two on the list of the top six signs your partner is addicted to online content. Whenever they are doing the washing, when they get the clothes out of the laundry, they just jam their hands and all of the... And they get stuck. They're trying to get stuck. But washing machines just do.

don't have those sorts of open. Tight, Kevin. They're really trying to get their hands stuck. And number one on the list of the top six signs, your partner is addicted to online content. They really want their parents to remarry someone with kids their age. Vaughan. Stepped, a step-situation.

Spilling situation. Born. Yeah. Oh, void. Yeah, and they're hoping whoever their parents marry have a washing machine with sort of a gaping in their hand. No one else is home. Stuck and just my stepbrother.

Yeah, how. Ford. Haley. Oh, Fletch. That is today's top six. The ZDAM Podcast Network. Now, plastic surgery. It's becoming much more sort of widely accepted, right?

People getting a little nip-tuck here and there. Yep, you've got plans for turkey. Oh, 20-27. Oh, really? Because it was 2035. Yeah. At one state. It's been a forward.

Okay. Less to lift. Less to lift if I do it sooner. Maybe that could be our next Eat Ray of Love. It's like eat nip tach. Eat nip tuck. Yeah, eat nip, recover.

You go to either Thailand, Turkey or Vietnam. Yeah. Which like the top, you know, place of surgery places. We can do hair for the guys. Yeah, teeth or boobs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or teeth or tits, we'll call that. Top teeth or tits.

But that works. God, only a brain store. We're writing these down. Yeah, sorry, this is a real glimpse behind the scenes of how... Behind the curtain. Top teeth or tits? Yeah. Teeth in Vietnam, top in turkey, tits and Thailand.

I don't know if that'll work as well. We'll find a client. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah, travel insurance. Southern Cross travel insurance will be the client. It sounds like a whole lot of stuff could go wrong. Anyway, so there is a procedure that's been around for a while,

but this new version of it, aloe clay, has put their spin. So, like previously, if you wanted to get a bit of filler in some spots, maybe in your cheeks or your lips or you can even use fat for breast enhancements,

usually that would require some liposuction from another area, say your thighs or your hips or your belly or something, which is sort of a two-fuss. Suck out the fat from an area you don't want to shove it where you do want it. Evala. Do they take donations for this? Like, um...

Well, yes, they do now. Like blood donations? You just kind of lose a couple of cage juice before the weekend. We can't imagine someone coming in be like, we're here to harvest. We're like, have a... Yeah. Is it like blood type? Do we have a fat type?

I don't know. Yeah, because it's not sure. Mine's A. Someone else's is KFC. Yeah. What's your blood? Mine's chocolate biscuits. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That'll be CB. That'll be CB, fat time. Yeah, yeah. So I'm not sure if you can do this. But aloe clay is kind of a donor situation because to do the usual thing, it's more involved because you've got to go under, get your fat sucked out. Then it's got to be processed.

Then you have another surgery to get it put back in. Well, they like blend it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what they do is, I've got it here, what they do is they sterilise the fat. The DNA is removed and then it becomes safe for medical use like any other filler. How do you remove the DNA?

Not everyone has time or fat. to give to this. So now, aloclay is a procedure in which they're using cadaver donated fat. Wait, so if you're a donor, not only could they take your heart and, you know, all your organs, they could take your fat? Alloclay is a cadaver fat transfer, ethically sourced from donor cadavers. A cadaver, if you don't know, is a dead body. Yeah. And, yeah, they're sucking fat out of dead body.

people. Right. And putting it into alive people so that they look better. It will cost you about $75,000 per treatment. How much? $75,000. How much are they paying the dead person? Well, that's the great bit.

You don't have to pay dead people. They don't need money. But they'd have to donate. They'd have to be like, yes, you can have it. Yeah. They're saying it's highly regulated, very ethically sourced, and why not? It's a waste of perfectly good fat. So you can have someone else's fat in you.

A dead person's fat in your face. I don't like it. I mean, it's no different than having a dead person's organ or a dead person's blood, other person's blood. It is. It's ridiculous. Dead person's organ is for your survival. Someone's chosen to donate their organs to give life to other people. Yeah, but you could have someone else's blood in you.

It's the same thing. You know, it's not. That's essential for survival. This is an elective cosmetic surgery. I know, but then if you just get normal filler, that's just like some for foreign thing. Like, you might as well have a human tissue. I like this idea of a living person

donating their fat to somebody who wants to. Yeah. So this is just because you don't have to give the fat, all you're doing is going in and getting it filled in. So it's quicker. Why? Isn't that crazy? Deep person's fat.

I mean, I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. You say that now. I hate it. And then in five years your chick's going to start hollowing out and you're going to think it's not such a bad idea. The ZM Podcast Network Play ZDM's FlashWorn and Haley Kiwis are drinking less

Are we? Alcohol consumption is at a new record low The lowest since records began Multi-year downward trend in drinking Especially affecting beer and wine I was going to say I feel like there's like a lot of bars and restaurants Like not as full as they used to be And like lots of clothes It's so expensive

Like, it is. If you're going out for a meal and then you tag on a couple of drinks, it's so expensive. Yeah. It's, um... It's good. This is good news. You know?

No, but it's not if you own a restaurant or a bar. Bad news. Bad news. But I mean, in general, New Zealand's had a big drinking culture. Yeah, drinking at home, even beer volumes down. 10%. Wow. Yeah, volume's down.

And wine is 11%. Oh, God. So... Which is wild given COVID. I thought everybody... did a big lean. I thought you were saying wild considering how much Haley still drinks. Oh man, I'm watching.

That would be rich of me to say that. No, it's fair. I'm really doing my part. So cost of living pressures have seen people cutting discretionary spending like alcohol, especially when they're out. It's much more publicly known and spread and talked about the health and the health effects of it. younger generations are just drinking less and the increase of the alcohol alternatives

like the alcohol free beer I was at a pub and I asked the lady how much of that Heineken 0% she sells And she said for their tap beers It's the most popular tap beer Because it's the only zero on tap And people want to go to a pub you want to drink out of a pint Yeah

Something social about it I don't want to go to a pub and have to drink out of a bottle. I want something poured. It'll be a Guinness for me, thank you very much. Yeah. But because it's the only 0% on tap, it's their most popular tap beer. Oh, right. Because people want the 0% alternative.

A lot of people I know will do like beer on and then do a zero and then a beer on and then do a zero. Oh, the old water and wine. The old water and wine situation. Yeah. For every glass of wine, you have a little glass of water. Yeah. Well, it's no water. But it's not adding more booze to your system.

Speaking of, now I don't drink in moderation. Yes. But I had something yesterday that Fletch, you'll really enjoy. I don't know if you've had this before. Sakey jelly drinks? No. Okay. Now, wait a minute.

Was this at your luncheon with John Aiken? No, not at my luncheon with John Aiken. There I had an Ugo Spritz. Right. But I went to a Japanese restaurant last night, Tenoquies Cave, very famous in Auckland. I have not been to Ternuckees for years. Yeah. Oh, well, it hasn't changed.

Is it still the climate? Just skewers. But they had a sake jelly. And it was like sake, but it was fizzy, sweet, and had sort of little jelly texture. Not like a jelly shop, but like a drink. Or like a boba tea or something with those point out of those tapioca. No, no, no, no, just like soft kind of viscous moments.

It was really good. Weird. Yeah. Okay. But I only had one because in moderation. And you were working. And I then did go and do some stand-up comedy. powered by sake jelly.

Well, I was going to say, was that affected in a good way or a bad way by the sake? No, I only had two of them, so I was unaffected. Play Z-N's Flash 1 in Haley. Well, the internet's full of bad things. Yeah. Full of bad things. Would you say, just a quick, quicky little poll between the three of us, would you say the internet is majority bad?

Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Our quick little poll found 100% of respondents said, Yes. Yeah. It's majority bad.

Yeah, yeah. Some good stuff. The latest thing the internet is debating. Who would do better if they swapped jobs? A vet or a doctor? So we're talking a vet operating on a human or a doctor operating on a animal. And the arguments are quite interesting because... Because there's a lot to take into consideration as well.

One of the big points that people make is that, well, a vet operates on all different sizes. Mm. Yeah. You do have different sorts of vets, though. Got large animal vets, small, animal vets, guinea pig vets. Equine vets is like a whole thing into itself. Yeah, for the horses.

But do they study as, I don't feel like they don't study as long as doctors. If you ask AI objectively this question, veterinarians would likely perform better. I agree. If they swapped. Why? They have a broader training. Vets must understand the significant anatomical differences between six to 12 different species in general,

whereas humans have one human. Yeah, but we're complex. They're more of a jack of all trades. They're resourceful, accustomed to working in non-optimal situations. Like, you know, they've got to get them they're out in the field, less equipment, smaller things.

Somebody messaged in, they studied to be a vet, and part of their study, they learned that vets treated people during World War II. They were sent into the field. Bad guys always take their shot comrades to the vets. To the vet. Because they can give them the stuff off the record.

In the movies. in the movies. They do in the movies. While joining us is our good friend, Dr. Shawnee. Good morning, Dr. Shawnee. Morning team. How are we? Good. Really good. How do you feel about this? I'm on the vet's side. I was just thinking, you're a GP right, Dr. Shawnee.

I am, yeah. And so there's vets that probably don't do surgery that are like the the GP version of vets. Yeah. How do you think you'd compete against each other? Would you be able to analyze an Alsation better than? they could just kind of feel around on a human and take a thermometer up the bum? Yeah, I was wondering this when you asked the question,

do all vets do surgery? Because not all doctors do surgery. Yes. I don't, I mean, is there less risk with an animal? Well, you're just saying just because it's little tittles. So, yeah, if little tittles came in, if it died, you'd be like, oh, it's better than me killing a human. Yeah, no, I mean, vets have to deal with, you know,

their patients biting, that doesn't happen to me very often. Yeah. Sometimes. Kind of hot when it does. Because you study general medicine, like you've got to know, but you're not surgical. But if I brought in Raleigh, my care, who you know I love very much, and he had been hit by a car and he had an open wound, do you think, Dr. Shawnee, you'd be able to stitch him up well enough that he'd heal?

I'd be able to stitch him up, but if he had like an internal injury, I don't know if I could fix that. That's really brave of you to admit it. It is. But remember, I'm not a surgeon because there'll probably be surgeons out there that'll be like, yeah, no trauma. I know, but Dr. Shawnee, you're our only doctor friend.

You know, we don't have a surgeon friend. Yeah, when there's a post-apocalyptic world and we're all living on Vaughn's farm, you're going to have to fix the animals. Look after everything. And we'll have to send you when we do our raid on the local chemist warehouse for what antibiotics we need for what specific things.

Because we won't know, some of for skin, some of her other things. Yeah. That's exactly right. You've got to get the right antibiotic for the right bacteria. Yeah. And we're probably sending you to the vets as well just because we don't have a vet at the farm. You have to remember there's a lot more to medicine than just surgery. There's loads of conditions out there.

The animals get as well that don't need. Like rabies. Like diabetes and thyroid problems and things like that. And so where vets would win again there is that humans are used to be. being able to ask their patients questions, whereas you can't ask an animal anything. Yeah, they're just like, ma'am.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They speak all the languages. I've talked to Alcat Jason a thousand times. He's never seen one word back. Yeah, exactly. Keep trying, though. My dog recently had a urinary tract infection, and there was like $1,000 worth of tests and stuff taken.

But if you're a human, you'd just be like, burns when a pee pee. He just used to pee a free of sex. Pee-pee all the time. That's one thing where vets might struggle, because you can't, you know, it's charged heaps. Yeah.

You can't charge very much when you're a doctor. It's not subsidised by the government though, was it? No, it's not subsidized. It's not subsidised healthcare. Because animals don't pay taxes. What's that saying about the value of animals, you know? Yeah. I've got no idea.

Never heard of the saying about the value of animals. Okay, well, so from a doctor, your team vet on this question, Dr. Shawnee. The vets have it. Yeah, you guys nailed it at the start when you said they've got to know about all sorts of different things, which we're just used to one. Yeah.

Someone who just message in vets who miss out on getting into second year veterinary school often go to med school instead. What is the easier option? Yeah. Jeep. But how long is vet school? What our public health system is getting the sloppy seconds? Does any of the skills transfer, you know, do any of your credits that you've done at vet school?

On like, you know, if they do, they probably. I mean, it probably counts prior learning, maybe. I don't know. But it's funny because the medicines are the same like you. It's funny when you take your animal to the vet and they get an antibiotic, and it's like a proxy cyclone, which is the same one we use for humans. Oh, so that's stuff that I've got in the fridge for Raleigh, I could use that next time I've got a UTI. No, that's...

Way smaller doses. That is not what he's saying, Haley. This is another round of incredible medical advice from you for me. That is not medical advice, Lally. I've just saved myself an entire doctor's appointment. I just... However many Rale is taking... Work out your weight differences.

How many Rollies am. No, that's not what we're recommending at all. Thank you, Dr. Shoney. You're not recommended to take your animal's pills. Some of them are different. Dr. Shoney has to go now because he has cycling to work now. Did you guys know this? Are you cycling to work?

Please be careful. Cycling to work, I am careful. You live a thousand miles away. That is very dangerous. It's a big cycle, but... Do you have a little high-vis vest on? Not yet. Oh, I've got a high-vis from when I want to.

I wanted to be a cyclist and I couldn't keep it. I'm going to bring you my high viz. It's orange. Oh, they'll be greatly precredit. Okay, I've got it one for you. Do you need any crossword help while you're here, Dr. Shawnee? Oh, do you know. I actually do.

We're doing a massive one, but I don't have it with me, but I'll text yet later. Okay, thank you. Text in 9696. Yeah. We don't want to, if this is not personal business. This is for on here. 9696, text in. Dr. Chorney, thank you so much.

Play Zat M's Fleshhorn and Haley. Right now, though, Let's chat about this new adaptation of Pride and Prejudice, because this is right on the back of Wuthering Heights, which I haven't seen yet, but I want to. Marga Robbie, Jacob Allorty, it's grossed worldwide, already 160 million US dollars. A lot of money?

I'd say that's a fair bit of coin. Opening weekend, it did, what's that, like 50 mill domestically in America. It's already, like, one of the top grossing films of 2020. obviously. Mixed reviews, but I feel like the girlies who love it, absolutely love it. And the purists, the Emily Bronte purists, the original book lovers, hate it. But I never claim to be accurate. So now we're getting excited for Pride and Prejudice, which is Jane Austen's book. We've seen the adaptations of it before.

It was Kiran Knightley, wasn't it? The 2005 Pride and Prejudice is the one that everyone loves, Keran Knightley. Matthew McFadgin Carrey Mulligan Fadden Matthew McFadden No it's Matthew McFadden You don't put a GFadden

Fag Fag. That's what they call him Faggy Faggy Old Fetch Matthew McFadian Rodeman Pike Rupert friend And that a hell of a line-up I mean most of them were quite young at the time Yes and it was lots of that

You know from Kiran Knightley Mr Darcy don't go Mr Darlsey They say Jane They say that Pride and Prejudice is like the blueprint for all all romantic comedies. Oh, really?

This is the original. It's kind of a, you know, well, they won't, they mishap love story. Okay. So now Netflix has just released their first look teaser, like a bit of shots of Mr. Darcy on the horse.

Mr. Darcy is Jack Loden from slow horses. Oh yeah, he's great. Yeah, but he's not Mr. Darcy. I don't think he was, I don't think, and this is very judgment, I don't think he's handsome enough. Wow.

Oh, okay. I mean, he's a handsome man, but he doesn't have that... Dashing kind of upon a horse look. Good actor, though. Good actor. Emma Corrin is Elizabeth. So, like, great cast already. But the reason that this has got everyone very excited is because it's written by Dolly Alderton, who is like a very well-known girly author.

Right. You know, that she's like, she's going to do, I think, like a Wuthering Heights sort of treatment on it and make it more for the girlies. faithful they say but a modern adaptation. Because what year was Pride and Prejudice? The novel released,

the Google, Google, Google, 1813. Yeah. So when you say a modern adaptation, will they be on their phones and stuff like on the couch? OMG, Mr. Darcy. No, no, no, it's going to be set, you know, it's a classic take, but more

maybe, you know, like Wuthering Heights had like Charlie XX do the music and it was a bit more kind of arty, I guess. Six-part series, Olivia Coleman's in her. She's great. So anything she touches is just gold. She does everything.

Yeah, right. Great cast. But all it said is coming soon in 2026. To Netflix, right? To Netflix, six-part series. But this year. This year, coming soon. Play.

That ends, Fleshhorn and Haley. We've spoken about this. The three of us have always been rather passionate about our chosen cobbler of choice. A shoe repair purse. Yeah. Work with leather. Sometimes they cut keys.

Sometimes they cut keys. Sometimes they rock a bit of engraving. Yeah. Sometimes they are the sole maker of marching boots for the whole of New Zealand. I know. And sometimes they shut down. Now my cobbler told me a couple of years. Coles Cobbles.

Coles Cobbles on Dominion Road. He told me a couple of years ago. He was thinking of shutting down. And then he was like, no, I'll keep going a little bit longer. And then did you tell me, Vaughn, maybe you drove past it? And you had terrible news for me, he said. Are you sure? He's shut down.

He's shut down. He's shut down. He's shut down. He's gone. He can't just sit on the radio. Someone's shut down if you're not 100%. Right, okay. I ran it past some locals.

He's gone. This is how... Legendary cobbler, by the way. Legendary. It's on Reddit. Oh, really? Ford slash Auckland. And that's always true.

Coles Reddit has never lied a day in its life. Cole's Cobble Shop closed down. Now Cole fixed many shoes for me, repaired many marching boots over the years, but since he's shut down, I haven't needed him. All my shoes have been of fine standard. Well, because you keep buying new ones.

Okay, this is not an opportunity for a little lecture. Is it wrong, though? I have bought so many pairs of new shoes, but I only ever wear the shoes I'm wearing today, which is just my classic, normal straight black Doc Martins. They are a classic that will never go They're not out of fashion. I just reach for them all the time.

However, I wore these to the military tattoo and then I had to walk for ages from Eden Park and, you know, to try to get to a better Uber location. And I felt it and they were going. You know, at the back of the heel and the structure of a boot? I've had this exact problem in a pair of Timberland. And the plastic that's there for structure

starts to dig into your hair. And cut. And so I've got these terrible blisters and I've forgotten all about it and I put them back on this morning and I was like, holy hecker and it's all shredded in the middle. Now usually this is where I'd take them off

and I'd take them to Coles, but I need a new cobbler. I am officially looking for a new cobbler. Is this where we petition for each of our coblers? I think I saw your cobbler at the weekend. I just want to know why they're good. Where's your cobbler?

I just take mine down the road from my house. 966 if you've got a cobbler. But what if anywhere in the country? Orland location? Anywhere in the country? Do you need these boots for Good Charlotte on Friday? Dude, that's tomorrow. It's not happening.

I don't know about that. Cobbler, cobbler. Why don't you just put a bit of duct tape on the inside for now? I am going to have to construct some sort of temporary solution for tomorrow's Good Charlotte. Do you remember when I got my boots? I reckon you'll have it done. Honestly, Colin, he's at the warehouse and Westgate. This is my cobbler.

I'm going to Auckland. I'm going to Wellington straight after the show. Do I want me to drop them off? But then you'll never get, when are you getting back tomorrow? They won't later on a plane and beer feet. Yeah, and I don't have any other shoes. Okay. What, if you go to Wellington?

Could there be a Wellington? It could be a Wellington cobbler. Could they worry about you staying in Wellington? Wellington's got big cobbler energy because everybody's wearing... Mid-city. Old shoes. Yeah, do you remember I saw that guy on TikTok and Instagram Reels doing the Birkenstocks? And I think it's Todonger.

Oh, yes. And I sent those away, and they were amazing. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And people just watch those videos because they're so nice to watch. I follow an account called America's Cobbler, and he cobbles everything like, Cowboy boots, like cheerleading boots, marching boots for the marching bands. Oh, yeah, it's good stuff watching the coblers do their thing.

Now, someone messaging about my Coles Cobbles said he's really missed a trick there. He should have been the Colbler. You know, Coles Cobb's Cobbles. Well, no, you know, my Cobb the cobbler, I mean, the guy who owns it, apparently, well, in 2012, this is an old article. His name was Paul Cobb. What else was he going to be? A Corny on a Cobb or a Cobbler?

That was his only two options in life. Yeah. My friend Erin, a marching girl message in. I know I'm devastated as well when Cole shut down. He even did my marching boots at his house for a while after he shut down. Is he only a specialist? Has he retired? He's done, yes.

He was an old boy. I feel like there's only so many decades that you can sniff other people's smelly foot. I reckon he's into it. Isn't it great. I mean, he's into it? No. Come on, he's got to be after all these years. Isn't it great, though, that this is such an old trade.

It's a dying trade. still need a cobbler for fixing our leather goods. Tell you what, a couple of hard recommendations for hurry up shoes and lower hut, but you're not going to that area of Wellington, are you? But it's in the name, hurry up. You could just drop them off and say, hurry up, I need them by the time I get back.

Yeah, hurry out, okay. Maybe I could try to get these fixed in the next 24 hours. In Wellington. Gimble's on Simon Street in Auckland. Best ever. They're famous. Are they? But eye candy in there too, apparently.

Oh, we've got a sexy cobbler. I feel like that. I see, what is that? I'm sorry, I'm not expecting a sexiness when I got in my cobbler. I also feel like they fixed a suitcase for me once. They do, they do. They do zip. I love a cobbler that will fix it up.

Yeah. You know when you take a wallet in a bag or a suitcase or something, fix that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, got another vote here for Cobb the cobbler in West Auckland. I'm not promising eye candy, they say, but tell me more about, Gemmell's shrew again. Am I going to get a new cobbler that's got a new cobbler that doesn't have any eye candy? I mean, if you've got eye candy on as an option. I know it does come down to the quality of the cobble.

It's going to be a full of turn down. The quality of the cobble. Because what if they're hot, but they don't cobble as well? Wait a minute, they've got a 4.6. The Google review says 4.6. Gimels established. Okay, there you go. Yeah, but what I'm going to need is,

I'm looking at the Gimble boys. One of them's got a bit of a Henry Cavill vibe to him. What? Well, I guess Haley's got a new cobbler now. Wait a minute. It's kicked me into some sort of slideshow with the shoes. Get through the shoes. Here's one.

Here's one, look, look, look, look. He's all right. Okay. Okay, you've got a new copel. There, there. There, there. Oh my, I can't put my Stinky ass boots in their shop

Go and see some sexy men working with leather The ZN Podcast Network Play ZDN's Fletchhorn and Haley Now want to ask the question now Has somebody disappeared on you Now do you think this is an impossible final We haven't done one of those for a while It could be but then we could take

We could also take calls from people that have been like ghosted by a partner because you hear that this happens sometimes. A guy or a girl will just leave town and then you never see them again. And it's so weird when it's after like six whole months or something. Not like we went on a couple of dates, you got ghosted. Sure.

That happens to all of us. But we asked us because a woman, a North Carolina mom of three, vanished 24 years ago. 24 years ago. Was this the one I saw the headline? It was at Christmas? Yes.

And she said she was going to get... She said I'm off, I'm just off to Kmart and then she never came home. Well, Kmart sometimes you do spend longer in there than you... You get a little bit lost, don't you? You get a little lost. So, you know, obviously... Have Kmart got a new sort of teleport creating machine for $7?

So at the time, she was 38 when she disappeared. It was December 2001. This is in America. Hell of a couple of months. In Virginia. Yeah. And she disappeared. And that was it.

The police were. went looking, all of her family and kids were just like, where's mum? And she has been found after a tip-off led the FBI to find her and they caught up with her

and all she has said is that she left for domestic reasons. Right. Sorry? Yes. Wait. So domestic family issues.

Abusive husband. So maybe she hasn't said that? Right. But I mean, good on her if she has, but then like she left the kids. It's just like. Totally. Oh my God, this poor woman. I need to know the tip off too.

Do you reckon she was acting a bit suss and someone started looking into her? Or she had told someone? 24 years is a long time. So 24 years ago and you said, you said she was 38 when she disappeared? So add four. We're at 42 and add 20. But how old are the kids as well? And we're at 60.

Yeah. Jeepers imagine. My God. Yeah, and there's a, like, there's news footage of her daughter speaking to the press in 2001 when her mum disappeared. Would you welcome her back into your life? I mean, if it was because... I'd hear her out. Yeah, we don't know why, you know, but, yeah.

You've missed too much. Do you reckon she was keeping an eye on them from afar? Do you reckon she ever drove past? Do you reckon she got, okay, this is what she did. She got dressed up as a Scottish nanny. Yeah. So she did grow up with them. She was like, ooh, they had a nanny.

So one of her kids posted to Facebook on Sunday. These last couple of days have been a whirlwind of emotions, as you would imagine. As far as my opinions and feelings on my mum, I am ecstatic, I am pissed, I am heartbroken, I am all over the map. Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah. Will I have a relationship once more with my mum? Honestly, I can't answer that question because I don't even know. My initial reaction would be yes absolutely

But then I think of the hurt And then my mum is only human Just as we all are So like what would you even like You think she's dead you know Yeah just disappearing That's the thing with disappearing With no trace like this

It's such a dramatic case Is the thought that she's dead So then you agree with a life that's still there I feel like now with all the facial recognition technology You just couldn't disappear Because you'd end up on cameras She's probably on Facebook. I'd be like Patsy Sproul.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Where are you come home? It might be an impossible finding topic. Maybe. But do you know someone that has just vanished who's just disappeared?

Maybe it was like a ghosting or maybe it was the extreme that someone just left. Yeah, maybe you had a husband. Left New Zealand and started a new life. Well, you hear about people that have like second families and then they just disappear and they're already got a text. And they're with their other families. Okay, this is great. Oh, 800 of dollars. is the number. You can text through.

9-696. Who vanished? Who vanished? Because a mum vanished 24 years ago and she's just been found. She hasn't given it. She hasn't gone into details but her kids are like, oh hi mum. Hi. Hi. Hi, mum. Hey, I'm in my 30s now.

No, well, that surely must be older. What? Yeah, how old were they when she left? That kid that was on the news looked like 18, 17, 18, 19. Oh, that's when she went missing. That's when she went missing. that photo. I thought there was her now. No, the kids would be like 50s.

How old in 2001 she was how old? 38, the mum. Oh no, had the kids? Don't know, but they would have been... They looked like adults. They looked like adults. So they would be like, you know, late 40s, 50s. What an absolute brain fart.

So who vanished on you, Bailey? Who was it? Well, it didn't vanish on me, but my grandfather vanished on... Well, he was a kid, but his mum took him and ran. from his father. Oh, wow. And where did they go? I think the story, we don't really know 100%.

Grandad doesn't really talk about it. We think they went from Ireland all the way to New Zealand. Wow. Wow. And back then, you could never, you know, you can't just jump on Facebook and see where they are. No, God, no. No, yeah, grabbed him, changed his name, met a new man. Wow.

Wow. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I've known my granddad as Bruce. my entire life. That's not his real name. So that's fun. Wow. Do you even know his real name? Yeah, I think his real name was George.

Okay. Yeah. I think Bruce's called on. He just, yeah, he just said, no, you're going to call me Bruce when he was about a teenager and that's stuck. Wow. Wow. Okay. Oh my God. Incredible. Thank you, Bailey. Ruby, who vanished? So my granddad's father was a truck driver in Australia.

and he had drive through like the outback of Aussie. And he, him and his truck just vanished one day. He went to work and never arrived at the destination. I'm sorry, the whole truck as well. Where's the truck? Quicksand. Quicksand's the only explanation here. What do you mean they never found it?

Never found him or the truck. No! Oh no, I need to know what happened. Ruby, when was this? In the, I don't know, 70s. 60s, maybe. How heavily was it investigated? Do you know it?

How long did they look? What do you mean? We don't really talk about it a whole lot. My mum doesn't know a whole lot of the details. My mind's blown by this. My granddad's one of eight children. So they were just like, oh, we've still got seven. I don't know.

I feel like, Ruby, I feel like this needs an entire true crime podcast. We need to get this on the TV. Oh, I know. No, I've been very, I've done my research. I could have any anything about it, but... Wild. Because I guess the Outback is so huge. Could you go off the road and not be seen?

I guess so. And I even had a couple of mates and won't disappear on the Outback dance floor on the early 2000s. It was just a small part. Different Outback born. Rudy, thank you. But just as perilous. Just as perilous. Jen, who vanished?

My boyfriend, basically. Very long time ago. Love of my life. Love for my life. Okay. Back in the 80s, I received a dear John letter. We didn't live in the same area, but, you know, you were very serious about each other, and he was in the Army.

Okay. Oh, scary. So, yeah, I know. So instead of me writing the Dear John letter, he wrote me a Dear John letter and disappeared. And to this day, I have tried tracking down, social media, everything, Cannot find any, no death notices, no nothing. I can't find him. I don't know where he went.

Okay, again, this also needs a true crime podcast. So he was living in New Zealand as well? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was down at one of the military camps. And I was in the Bay of Lentie, and I met him to my brother. And he wrote me a dear John letter basically saying he was getting out of the army and moving to Australia.

Surely the army would have records. You need to get, who's the fella that does the investigates? David Lomas. Is that a show? Yeah. Go on that show on there. Get him. He'll find him.

I could. Yeah, but what if you track him down and he's let himself go, you know? And he's all like, I don't know, racist or something. He could be like, you're bloated and racist. In fact, imagine him like that. Yeah. I'm hoping so. Is there something, Jen, inside of you that just feels unresolved about this?

Absolutely. I got no closure. I got absolutely no closure. And I heard various rumors and stuff, blah, blah, blah. And I just wanted to get it straight in my head what actually happened. Because we're about to get engaged. Oh, is that serious? That must just leave such a question in your brain.

not like that you, you know, want to find him to be with him, but just to be like, what happened? I know. I definitely don't want to be with him, but I just, I was only 18 at the time and it was like, are you kidding me? This young love. Young love. Unresolved. All these years later.

Yeah, all these years. This could be a podcast series, vanish. It could be. We find Jen's OG love. Jen, thank you so much. Unreal. Some of these texts are mindblung. Let's get into it.

I know a woman who dropped her son at school. He was six and her daughter at Kendi 3 and then hopped on a plane to Scotland where she used to live. What? No, hopped on a plane from Scotland where she used to live to New Zealand. So she left her kids in Scotland. It's just a weather. It's always grey and stuff probably.

It's so great. The kids would love it here. I know. I know it's a long flight. So what happened? What was the follow-up to that? Just they broke my heart when I heard the story. Yeah.

These people need to do DNA tests to see if they have. have a whole other family. My mum's granddad ran away to the Isle of Wight. She found out he had three more kids after he ran away and there was a whole branch of the family that no one ever knew about. Someone said, my cousin vanished in the 1980s was never found including his car.

That's so weird that stuff. Where is it at the bottom of a lake? The truck one. Where's the truck? That's a whole truck. But then that's like, recently there was a story in Hamilton and they were looking for somebody else and they dreash to wake off the river and they found a car and they were like, there's no signs

on the road the car, yeah, must have left the road at a horrific speed to get into the river. Without skids and tree breaks. That's just gone, yeah. That's really, I would love not to go that way in the bottom of a river. You know, I don't want to have to drain a pond to find me. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, they don't drain the pond. They'll just dredge the pond. I don't think you're worth a draining. You're not worth it, yeah. They have to pump it all out, build to pump it all out. I think you're a dredge, not a drain. I am a dredge You're a Navy scuba dive team

You're a scuba dive team We're not getting in the Navy Oh really? I get some hobbyists Really? Sorry With my military connections My ex-husband

He just vanished Turns out he was having an affair And ran out For the much younger girl Literally disappeared for six weeks Everyone thought he was dead In a ditch somewhere We had a four-year-old

And a seven-year-old at the time Oh you dirt bag Oh no, you can't do that Friend at work came home one day Her partner had just disappeared It moved to Oz apparently Two weeks before they'd been looking at engagement rings What a rotter.

What's that called when they love bomb you just before they ghost you? Yeah, there's a term where they go in and it's like, there's funny memes about it as well. Like guys two weeks before they ghost you, it was like, I think we should move to France. Yeah, the guy the day before he dumps you. Yeah. You've got a word there.

You've found the word fletch. No? No, I haven't. My granddad vanished and left his five kids in Australia, came to New Zealand and had another six kids with my nana. The kids all found out of each other when he passed away. Fertile. Fertile.

Very swimmer. Swimmers on the sky. Yeah. I was seeing a boy. He just vanished. A year later he popped back up on social media liking my pictures. What?

So he can't have been in hiding. That's weird. That is odd behavior. So weird. My mum's brother vanished about 30 years ago. Lost contact with everybody. No one knew where he was. But people every now and then think they see him around town.

What? This is crazy. My granddad didn't come home from work when my mum was four. She met him again when she was in her teens. Just didn't come home from work. It's so bizarre. Leave your family. Abandon your family with grace. If you want to break up with someone, break up with him.

Have that hard conversation. Yeah, I know. Someone said, Haley, you need to go down the rabbit hole of Adventures with Purpose on YouTube. It's a series of stories looking for people who are all found in rivers and lakes in their cars. Why would I want to do that with my day? That's depressing YouTube content. It's so much. I want to see an otter racing a...

Did you see the otter on the ice racing the person who was doing the cross-country skiing? No? Across a frozen lake and the otter's just like zipping around him on his belly. Now that's the sort of... Yeah, but I bet under that ice there's a car. There's a car with a woman solid. Play. That ends. Fleshhorn and Haley.

Her album, West End Girl, has been the absolute talk of the town. We've seen her everywhere now. Very soon. She's coming back to New Zealand. Lily Allen's on the show. Good morning, Lily. Hi. We would just admire, she's got a majestic red velvet curtain behind her there. For the people listening on the radio. It's not actually velvet.

It's woolen. Oh, right. Wow. That's posh. That's posh. That's posh. Correction made and correction taken. Wow.

Now, Lily, you've been to New Zealand a number of times. I saw you, I don't want to make us all feel a bit old. I saw you in 2007 and 2010 at Big Day Out. No, I love New Zealand. This tour starts in New Zealand. My previous ones have, like, so it's been. in the middle, so I've never really got to spend like a long period of time there, but I'm planning on

coming out, you know, 10 days early or something so I can really have a little stomp around for a bit before. Wow, do you want us to organise any thrill-seeking adventures like bungee jumping or... Push you out of a plane? Zorbing in a big giant ball. You go down a hill? I kind of want to be in a good physical state for when I get on stage.

So I'm going to say that. So more of a spa, more of a spa relaxing kind of a time. Yeah. Okay. Nice. Some vineyard stuff. Yeah, maybe a little bit of like paddling somewhere, but yeah, not absorbing for me. Okay.

Now, Lily, this album has absolutely like, I mean, it's such an incredible album. And I think for a while maybe we thought you were done with music because you were podcasting and doing all sorts of other things. Did you have that feeling as well ever in the, like, last few years that maybe, you know, you were done with it? Yeah, I mean, listen, I was writing music the whole time, but it didn't really feel like I'd written anything that I wanted to release and put out into the world. So, yeah, I was really frustrated. I was like, you know, I've been invited to go and do, like, spots for

Olivia Rodrigo and other people. And so I'd had, like, a taste of, like, being up on those big stages and singing to big audiences. And I was just like, oh, I'm. This is so annoying because I really like it up here, but I just can't make any good songs. And then I wrote this album, and I think it was good. So I'm coming back. I think it was. And I've got it.

I'm back, baby. Yeah. And are you, I mean, are you happy to be back? Are you absolutely loving being back on stage? I mean, I love watching you on SNL. That performance was absolutely incredible. Well, thank you. I mean, I've only done two.

Maybe three. I've done S&L and then I've done two like corporate gigs so far. Corporates? Corporates. My corporate, babe. And then I've got my first show on Monday. So I don't know. I'm really excited.

I've been really sick this week. You might be able to hear it. A little bit. Yeah. So I think that I think that God or the universe is just, you know, getting this out of me before I thought of Monday. and everything's going to be fine. But yeah, I'm so excited.

I mean, honestly, from the moment that these songs left my brain and, you know, went into the microphone and we're recorded, the next bit for me is when I get to see the audiences responding to the songs. So I am so excited and nervous. You know, I'm really nervous. I know that especially this first round of tickets here in the UK were really hard to come by.

So people really like went to war to get these. ticket, so I really want to deliver for them. You're a treasure. You're a national treasure to the UK, and to us, actually, you kind of sort of feel like we own you as well. Do we still get, we're still going to get a dip in to the back catalogue please, please, if not. Let's go, come on. She's done.

She's done. Best rhyme was when you rhymed Tesco with Al Fresco. We'll see how it goes. For the start, I'm being pretty hard line about it just being this record, because it is such

a story from the start to the finish. You know, I do want to present it as such. So, you know, but it is being dragged out. You know, it's only, you know, 35 minute record or something, or 45 minute record. So I think it's obviously going to be a longer show than that. But, yeah, I don't know. I haven't thought about which part of the back catalogue I would bring back

and if that is going to happen or not yet. I don't want to make any promises. Okay. You've just obsessed with it because you like the bike. Well, I was going to ask if you ever owned or have, if you still have the bike from the cover of Allright Still? Because I had a very similar bike at the time. I think I have it and I think it's in a storage unit. Wow.

Told you. Fletch said she never owned it. I was like, I bet she did. Oh, you should bring it over. We've got some lovely biking trails across. Oh, we do, Zealand. Well, no, you know what? I didn't, I don't own the original that was on the cover, but I think the record company, like when it became successful,

We were like, let's make a whole load of them. And so they did. And I kept working. You had promotional bikes. Man, weren't the mid-2000s wild when record labels were doing stuff like that. Yeah. When people bought records. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm splashing out on promo bikes. As someone who's been to New Zealand a few times, you're coming down here early. What's on your to-do list things to sit? I mean, you've got to wrap your eyes around Hobbiton if you haven't been before, of course. I haven't been there. Oh, Lily. You simply must. That's lovely.

My main thing. is my nanny, my opair, who, you know, raised me pretty much when I was a baby, Bronwyn, Heaven, shout out Bronwyn. Hi, Bronwyn. I haven't seen it. Last time I was there, which is like, you know, over 10 years ago or something. Wait, so you were, you, Europe here was a Kiwi? No, yeah, yeah.

Wow. It's so cool. It's amazing. I've only seen her a couple of times since she left the UK. So, you know, she's been in contact her and her whole family are very excited about coming to see the show. So that would be amazing that she still likes you because I am my, we had a nanny when I was a kid and she left the job because I was a bit much. And I'm saying she told my mum I was a bit more, you know, too much of a handful for her. I don't think she'd want to meet me as a human being.

You know what? This might come as a surprise. I was actually the best behaved out of my siblings. I was the paper of. Yeah. You're really? Oh, I cannot, I cannot, you know, empathize with that. I was the softest and quietest as a child.

It all changed. Yeah, I was going to say. Do you love the touring life? I mean, I mean, you've got family and everything. Do they come out with you? Or, you know, do you just spend a lot of time missing them on phone calls? I'm going to miss my kids, but we've actually scheduled the Australian and New Zealand part of the tour to coincide with their

holidays. So my kids will be coming with me for that and they're coming with me for the American part of the tour. So they they'll be there for a lot of it. I was going to say she should take the kids to Rambozene but if they're also going to Australia, they've got slightly better theme parks than us. A little bit. Mild.

The log flumes a bit chlorine. It's heavy on the chlorine. Heavy on the chlorine. So the bumper boats. Well, I'm very excited. to be on tour. I mean, we're not doing, in England and America, we're doing it on a bus, which I love.

Everyone was like, really? Do we have to do it on a bus? Don't we do hotels and planes? And I'm like, no, I love being in bed. If I can pull up to work in my bed, that is... The dream. Oh my God, that does sound dreaming. Well, it's all happening. Spark Arena, October the 21st. All the tour details, ZM online and tickets are on sale now at Ticketmaster.

Lily Allen, we cannot wait to host you and have you back in New Zealand. And thanks for catching up with us. Oh, I can't wait to see you guys. The ZM Podcast Network. Play ZM's Flesh forne and Haley. Silly, silly, silly that is... Silly little poll today is do you match your concert outfit to the vibe of the artist?

Kind of. Like, yeah. Like, what you... I didn't wear a harness to Troy Savan, I just remember. Just do absolutely. Do ab-sailing? Yeah, he's an abseiler. He used to be a window washer.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's good. And then if I go to a metal concert, you'll always wear Doc Martin's in a black t-shirt, band-tee. And what you wore to the laneway isn't going to be what you wear to good Charlotte on Friday. Won't be dissim. Actually, it'll be exactly the same.

Well, like. Yeah, I've sort of got a concert look. But, like, I wouldn't do a Taylor Swift, you know, like, so many of the girls, like, will remake an outfit that they've seen Sabrina are in, or tailor in or something like that. Well, we asked you match your concert outfit to the vibe of the artist and it was split.

49% of people said yes, 51% of people said no. Splitties, splities, Alex says, not usually, but I will be for Hillary Duff. No, what are we doing? What are you going as Lizzie McGuire? Pink singlet, blue jeans? Yeah.

I would be interested to know, Alex's follow-up question, what will you be wearing to Hillary Duff? Fletch, what are you wearing to Hillary Duff? We've got tickets. Um, clothes. That's a good start. Really good actually. There will be quite a lot of young women there.

Shorts in a nice t-shirt? Right. Jeans in a nice top. What time of the year is she coming? Octo. Oh, jeans and a nice top. James and a nice top. Yeah. Jeans in a nice top.

Haley said, love to dress up as the artist. Good Charlotte here. Here we come. Oh, okay. Nice. So what is that? Are you going to go for 2004? 2005, good Charlotte, the Spikeies.

The Spikeies. Maybe. That's going to be an interesting crowd because I remember going to all the Good Charlotte concerts in the 2000s. Yeah, and all those people are 20 years older now. Yeah. Well, you've seen that photo of me at Good Charlotte. Yeah. The eyeliner pulled down.

There might be some good Charlotte babies. Yeah, there might be. There will be. Ash said, I'm 36. I'll all be about the comfort. Thank you very much. Fair enough. So, wearing what makes them comfortable.

Samantha says, usually no, but I bought merch at Ed Sharon and wore it over the outfit I arrived in. Well, luckily it was raining, so you need to as many layers as well. Yeah, it was very, everywhere. Does merch count as matching the artists vibe? I don't know. I went to the Backstreet Boys at the Sphere two weeks ago. Wow, in Las Vegas. I don't care what is on at the sphere. Who did you go? Metallica just announced in a residency. That would be an amazing show. Whether or not you're a massive fan, that would be an amazing show.

And matched. When you say you match the Backstreet Boys, what Backstery Boys music video did you match? The full denim situation or the all white situation? The all white's a great look. That's a classic Bastry Boys. I started doing this after the Eres tour, said Abby. Anyone will tell you so much of the incredible atmosphere

was everybody's outfits and everybody complimenting each other. It was so wholesome. Since then I tried to do it in more subtle ways to match the concert vibe. Floy top for Gracie Abrams, pink jeans for Ed Sharon. Lovely. Okay. How ridiculous is Adam. Adam?

Adam, come on man. Adam, we're just having fun living our life. We're just having fun, Adam. We're just having fun. Adam, put on a t-shirt. How ridiculous. Currently workshoping outfits for Good Charlotte. All options are emo slash 90s, says Hannah.

Yeah. Good Charlotte weren't around in the 90s, Hannah. Early, early, early 2000s. Early 2000s. Yeah. Mid-2000s, you know, was peak good Charlotte time. It was, yeah. Loz Dog, I just want to wear a tour tea and some comfy pants.

And we can't argue with that. No. We daren't argue with that. Salat a little poll today. Do you match your concert outfit to the vibe of the artist? 49% of you do. Play. Play, Z-N.

Flesh, one and Haley. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Do, do, do-da-to-to-to-to-to-da-to-da-to-to-da-to-to-to-to-to-do do-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d do. It's Pokemon Week here at Fact of the Day And I've mentioned this is nothing more than a blatant attempt To tell you, it's Pokemon 30th, on Friday And I want that big Pokemon Lego set

And if you're listening, don't send it to him Send it to him, send it to him, send it to him Send it to me Send it to me. No. That would be even better. Send it to Hayley and we'll set it on fire in front of war. See, now that's a waste. No, I won't set it on fire, I'll build it.

You'll create, not have a pure rage. No, you won't build it right now, thanks. Go buy your own. I'll do all my own little... Oh, I mean, if Push comes to show, I'm going to have to buy it. Yeah, that's just life. Today's Pokemon factors, I want to tell you about a Pokemon that disappeared for 20 years.

Let's put on the theme song. Just to sort of... Hit it. Just to sort of pump it up a bit. Okay, come on. Time's ticking. We've got John Aiken in soon. Hurry up.

I know John coming in where we're doing Pokemon. Is John part of a 100 billion, 30 year-year-old, 100 billion US dollar, 30-year-long? Probably. I'd rather to... Multimedia success. their story? I love John, don't get me wrong. Don't hurry Pokemon for John. I'd rather talk maths than Pokemon.

9-6-9-6. 9-6. Shut up Fletch. That's all you need to say. Give the mammoth space. A Pokemon disappeared for 20 years because of a legal dispute with a psychic. Cadabra is the middle evolution. Huh? Cadabra. Abra.

Abra is the first evolution. Cadabra is the middle one. What do you think the third one's called? Cababra. It's a great cababra. barbub shop in Wellington. Cabra. That's a brilliant name for a kebab shop.

Abra, Cadabra, Al-Qazam. Al-Qa-Cazam is the final evolution. Cadabra appeared to be holding a spoon at which he would bend the spoon. And he also had a moustache and a certain look that 1970s real-life psychic, Uri-Gala, said, Hey, that's me. Ever heard of Uri-Gala? He was the guy that would bend the spoons. They don't bend them, though.

It's a trick of them. I know, it's a trick, Haley. Come on, you're talking to me. I don't believe a guy with a... Fletch, this guy believes in magic. I don't believe in magic. He, uh, in the original Japanese... Where did the pigeon come from?

It's up his sleeve, dude. It's literally up his sleep. The original Japanese name for Cadabra was Ungera, which is how you would say Uri-Gala. Oh my God, it's a regala. This is almost... So he sued Nintendo. He said, my identity has been used without permission.

This damaged my reputation. This is getting some sort of joke. As bad as chestwork. I'm sorry. so bored. We're getting Fletch. We need you to speak up more. We're getting shout out Fletch.

That meant shut out Fletch. Two shut up Fletch. My dad loves Pokemon. Weik's wearing his team rocket shirt right now. Shout out James from Tim Rocket. And that person's dad who I assume is also called James. So for 20 years, no. For 20 years, Cadabra disappeared from the card trading game.

Pokemon. From 2020, from 2000 to 2020. It was in 2020 that Uri Gala came out and said, I forgive you. You now have permission to use my likeness for the character, and the card appeared, reappeared. I forgive you, now sleep. I forgive you.

You watch the spoon burn. And someone's like, I was going to eat with that. Oh, man, now I can't have my yogurt. Can you bend it back? But then it's never as strong once you bend the spoon back. It's never a strong as weak. And that's actually the trick to bending the spoon, by the way. It's a physics trick.

You bend the spoon, you make it weak, and then you can bend it again. It didn't mean any cards printed before that was super valuable. Still going. Or anything, though. I am my best friend John Aiken joins us next Hurry up Today's fact of the day

Today's wildly underappreciated fact of the day Someone said this is worse than chess I know it is It actually is And I didn't think chess week It disappeared It disappeared for 20 years And came back

During the pandemic Keep going Vaughn someone says Yes I will keep going Shut up Fletch This is the best week ever I'm trying to be even here. So after 20 years it came back and now is part of the

Pokemon trading card. But didn't make any of the cards particularly valuable. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day, do do do do do do do to do do to do do to do do do do do. The ZN podcast network. Is this a show real?

Play ZDN's flesh, born and Haley. Well, we can't get enough. Anytime we hear he's in the country, we say, get John Aiken from MAPS in, and he's here. Hi, John. How is everybody? We're so good. We talked to you just as the new season of MAPS Australia was kicking off. Yes, and I knew what was coming down the pipeline, but I could only tease a little bit of it.

Now you've seen certain weddings, you've seen honeymoons, and now you've seen a blockbuster dinner party. Yeah, when you left last time you were here, we were like, holy moly. Like if we've never heard of TVTs like it, you were calling it one of the most toxic seasons, you were calling out some of the girls, Gia in particular. The boss babes. The boss babes who we've now met. A thoughts on them.

I loved that I got to watch it with that, having talked to you. And so I had this litter, I was keeping my eyes out. And then I was like, oh, yeah, there's Gia. We've talked about her. And then I start to see some of her behavior. And I think, oh, yeah, he wasn't wrong.

And then I was like, excuse you, Brooke. I know. She came out of left field at that dinner party and just, it felt like she wanted to get some things off at chess and she had certain targets that she was going to go for at that dinner party and she went for it. And of course, she had sort of jeer beside her and so they were a formidable sort of duo. Yeah. But their language and how personal it got. I know. It was very difficult to watch it live. It's very mean girls.

And then you've got to think. to yourself, well, if you're like that in public at a dinner party, how are you going to be in an intimate relationship? Well, I feel like her partner, what's his name? Chris. Scott. Scott. I feel like no, no, no, no, no, no. Brooks partner, Chris, yeah.

Chris, yeah, Chris, I feel like he doesn't really know. I feel like she's here for the mean girl wines and gossips and attacks and she's not really giving him any time of the day. And this guy, as you know, Vaughn, avid watcher of the show. This guy is He's taking notes over here Yeah he is

The most cynical contestant you've had on the show Totally, he thought the experts were a joke Yeah He talked about my failure rate In terms of matching Yeah yeah But then in comes a six foot model And suddenly he's head over heels

Exactly and he's never had this situation Where oh wow She doesn't like me back Yeah He was always the top gold He came in like Oh shit And then he's looking at her going

Oh dear I don't know if I'm good enough and she's telling me I'm not good enough, what is this dynamic? So it throws him completely. I have to ask, like, when you are watching the dinner party, I mean, I know that you have to, you're aware you're being filmed, the three of you,

not the judges, the experts, you're aware you're being filmed. Do you, like we do when we're off air, have the real conversation about what you think of it all? I mean, we are watching these dinner parties unfold for, you know, It might be eight hours. Yeah. So we say a lot of things,

but certainly when we come off in the hair and makeup room, we'll be sitting there going, oh, that got pretty nasty. Is it like David Attenborough's nature documentary crew, you're seeing an orca eat a penguin, but you're not allowed to stop it. Yeah, you know, I'd just like to stop it because that's nature.

Yeah. Like that's harrowing planet Earth episode with a warruses are chucking themselves off the cliff. You just want to say, stop, stop, walruses. Yeah. Look, it's, and that's why they call it a social experiment, because we sit down, get comfortable, and then we watch this unfold over hours.

And some of the people that, like you mentioned, Brooke really hadn't raised her head much at all leading up to this, but she came in and she was on fire, ready to take down certain people. Especially after she had taken such a stance, a moral high ground, when her partner video was revealed and he said, I don't want any fat people. She was like, oh my God, aghast. How could you even be that mean towards women?

And then you see her at the dinner party last night, attacking, bully it. That's right. I mean, it is, those dinner parties are halacious. And honestly, they get so loud. I want to go. I want to go so bad. I'll hold robes, you know, all powder faces just to be there.

I think you'd be great right in the middle of it all. I was going to say, I thought you meant you want to sit at the table. You just want to observe it. Oh, she would love that too. I could be a waiter who came in and was like, excuse me, I've heard enough. You know? No, you're in nature documentary.

You're not allowed to stop the walruses from falling off the cliff. And I think what you're seeing again is about two weeks in is when it really, the masks come off and you see who these people really are. Yes. And particularly why they're bad at relationships. Yes. And you're seeing that now. Steve.

Can we just talk about Steve for a moment? Steve is our older gentleman. The Silver Fox. The Silver Fox. And we all just fell in love with them. we saw the match, we thought it was absolutely perfect. Now, Heget came out not only swinging against his bride,

but kind of towards the judges as well. Elisandra got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. And when someone comes at, he had a go at her for having an earpiece in, and is basically alluding to the fact that you don't know what you're doing and you're kind of an actor. And also, Steve, welcome to TV. Yeah, that's right.

And so she really snapped back and put him in his place. But when a participant is coming at you, that, and they do that regularly, that's one of the saucy things about the show, is that you realize they're not buying into this process. So if they're not buying into the experts, then they're probably not buying into their relationship either. Yeah, so why are you even here? Yeah, and so what happens with Steve is you start to see him, talk about all the red flags, not get curious, not let her in, but rather say she's not really good enough. Yeah, I mean,

and how many men were screaming at the TV when he refused to watch his wife in lingerie? Everyone was like, are you all right? What's wrong with you? Well, honestly, it's such a good season so far. I'm absolutely loving it. We asked our listeners for some questions for you. Rapid fire questions. Okay, we are back with maths expert John Aiken.

We've just been catching up on the latest season. If you haven't watched it, it's on 3-3 now. It's exhausting. It's exhausting. He's here to promote the show. You're just saying the ratings for this season have been like through the road. Biggest we've ever had. And in fact, this new companion show

that you're going to get over here called Maffs After the Dinner Party that crashed the stand site last week. There was so many people coming across from the show to that platform that it just literally... Isn't enough tragedy and outrage in the world? No, we need more, more, more, more, more.

We need bitchy woman. Yeah, we do. Women behaving terribly. All right, John, as our expert, we got our listeners to submit you submit some relationship questions. I will, we're going to start off. And if I can't answer them, can you step in? It would be my pleasure.

Okay, Sammy messages in. Can you be friends with your ex? Well, look, you can, particularly if you've got a child with them. But ideally, you've got to be really good with your boundaries. That's the bigger question. Can you say no to them? Can you make it very clear that there's no feelings there and that... No chance of a recap.

Correct. So it's how you manage the boundaries with the ex that's so important. So yes, you can have them as a friend, but you've got to be really clear that they are just friends. Do you think you could be friends of your ex and maybe dabble physically? No. Nope. That's a flat note.

That is a hard note. That's going to send mixed messages. Good John. What if like their personality sucks and that's why you broke up, but they're hot and you shag well. Great in a sack. But then you would have want to be friends with them if their personality sucks. Oh yeah, true.

No, you don't want to do that. Okay. Okay. The other problem with that is, of course, it takes you out of the game. If you're looking for someone and you're still shagging your ex, you're not really available. Yeah, okay. That's a great point. Wow, okay.

This is what we've done this before, yeah. Okay. One of our listeners asks, how do you know if he's actually into you? Well, everything that he does will bring you close rather than push you away. So you basically, he'll be punctual. When you send him a text, he'll send one back. Yeah, no game. When you're with him, he will prioritize you.

He may touch you in a way which is making you feel safe, secure. When he talks about you in public, he praises you. If you say to him, hey, please don't talk about this private issue. He doesn't talk about that. He gets along with the friends. And you only share it with your two closest friends. So you've got to basically look at and say, is what he does to me and how he talks to me,

Does it bring me close or does it make me confused and insecure? Have you, you know all about chalance, how people are talking about chalons now? No, tell me, tell me. Well, people have been, there's no real word, but we always talk about men being quite nonchalant. Like, yeah, I'll text her back maybe, or just bit easy like that. And like women are saying, be shallant. Like, we want you to be too much keen, text us back straight away. It lets us know you like us.

Yeah, that's right. So no mixed messages. Yeah. That's the bottom line. That's when you know somebody is into you. Someone asks, if we both read self-help books, does that cancel out the problem or double them? Too much advice.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. 20 chefs, ruin the broth. Yeah. I tell you what, right over there. Really? She's onto something, yeah. What if you both read in the same book? Now, if you're both into personal development,

I think it's a great thing. But if one is and the other isn't, that's when you're going to start to get into trouble. Because often with personal development, and we see it on our show, they're very, very enthusiastic about it. And they want to talk about it. They want to deep dive and read new books

and go to presentations and workshops. So if you've got someone like that, you really want the other partner to be into it as well. Yeah, okay, yeah. If they're not, then it's going to probably create problems because you're not got the same values. It also feel quite patronising. If you've learned all this kind of language in a book,

you know, when you hear someone's read one book about feminism and suddenly their whole language changes. Yeah, they might say to you, listen, you just need to change your script there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Someone's learned therapy tools. I want to pause and reflect back to you. Is that really what you want to be doing right now?

Oh, I hate it. Let's talk about your future self, shall we? Okay, how do I, someone else I feel attacked. Someone says, how do I communicate my needs without sounding like I have them? Like, without, I guess, coming across as needy, needy, needy, but I want them to hear my needs. Yeah. Well, I think you have to be, if you're, you have to be. going to be in a relationship that's healthy, you've got to be able to say this is what I want.

And you shouldn't be frightened with that. That's almost a red flag already if you don't feel like you can say your needs. I would say you need to look at whether this person's right for you because they should be embracing what you're asking. Oh, that's gorgeous. That's beautiful. Okay, Lans asked, how do I build up the courage to date again after a very long single stint? All right, this is what you do.

Oh. Oh, you're going to go. Pens, pens, pens. No, you just got to get your best friend over and you just sit down with a glass of wine and say, tell me, what have I done wrong in the past relationship? And particularly, how have I got to be different? And who have I got to go after? Which is going to give me a much better relationship.

Get all that feedback and say, right, I'm going to learn now. I'm going to do completely different. And then that best friend keeps you accountable. Yeah. Wow, but you've got to want to hear it. Yeah. Last time, you didn't even make time for them. Yeah, so you've got to.

Like did, and immediately you put your fence. Or you go, yeah, I'm a people pleaser. Okay, so that's what you are. How are you going to do it different? And so you're getting a friend to basically give you an uppercut and say, go back into the dating game, but you must do it different. Don't just keep repeating that same old pattern. Well, that's what often happens on maths, right?

You'll give them what they need, not what they want. Correct. And then they'll go, that's not my usual time. That's right. They'll either leave, they'll yell at me, or they'll just push this person away until finally it breaks up. Yeah. Okay, we've got a couple more questions. Someone's asking you for mortgage advice. I feel like they've messaged in for bad news, Brad. Yeah, it's different. Yeah. We won't ask you there. But what interest rate? What? No. Okay, how do we deal with this,

how do we deal with mismatch sex drives? Everything else is great. Same sex female relationship, by the way. This is a big common, wouldn't it? And a lot of relationships. Yeah. It can be. And it can be due to external variables. You know, it might be a medical situation where you, you you know, there's a thyroid issue or, you know, some sort of heart problem or whatever, or it might be low testosterone, all sorts of things could be going on. But you could also have a stress situation where at work, you've got such a huge schedule that sex is really not on your mind. Kids as well.

Kids as well. So it can involve a lot of different variables. So what you've got to do is you've really got to sit down with the person and say, okay, I notice this is what's happening. Let's talk about what are the variables that are contributing to this. Yeah. Is it about me and, you know, what I'm doing in the relationship, or is it things outside of the relationship?

Yeah. And then once you start talking about that, you can then come to an understanding of how are we going to do this different now. It might be that you schedule in sex, which sounds very unromantic. But we'd go 2pm, a little afternoon. Get it done, have a nice shower, everything's done. Yeah, no, after, Danil. No, no, after dinner's done.

Exactly. So you've got a bit of scheduled sex, but you can also have desire-driven sex. as well, which may start to come into it once you schedule it in. And so that's kind of how you're trying to work through this mismatch scenario. But what I would do is I talk about it gently rather than, hey, you know. It's not enough. It's not enough. What's wrong with you?

Yeah, that's terrible. It's about communication. Most things are, yeah. But it's hard and it's so much easier to be like, don't worry about it. No, I'm fine. Because it's healthy too. Often, often, it's got, you know, it's. be things that are outside of the relationship

that are creating the lack of sex drive. Yeah, not each other. Do we have time for one more? It's a cookie and I just want to do this one because it's in capital letters with two, three exclamation marks and three questions marks. So they're yelling at us. It's not really a question. How do I get a male partner to just listen?

Oh, wow. Okay. That's from Chloe. Well, Chloe, um, here's the good listening comes from good speaking. Oh, ho! Chloe. Oh, Chloe. And your face, bitch! It's like a Chloe And I'm thinking

She's yelling at us with exclamation marks Imagine what she's like with her partner So she needs to think about How am I bringing things up How am I speaking in this exchange Because he's not listening Wow That was good

That was good That was really good John I think we solved some problems today I think we saved marriages And I think afternoon sex is on the table again Yeah 2pm Tuesday John, thank you so much. A lot of people's partners are at work at 2pm

Trues. That doesn't mean you can't have sick. There we go. They call them home. Oh no, emergency, emergency. I'm the emergency. The Z&M's Podcast Network. Play ZM's Fleshhorn and Haley. How good was our chat with John today? He's a lovely man.

He's a lovely man. Well, ahead of that, we actually had lunch with him yesterday. Me, Shannon and Carlin, were invited by John himself, friend of the show. And personal friend of ours, right? Well, you'd say that now, yeah. Definitely. Yeah.

So I'm trying to fish through. We had such a good chat, and I'll say three standard drinks. Yeah. Well, some of us, not all of us. He loved a salve, which makes sense. Like, he suits salve. There was that moment at the table where it was lunch. No, he gives big salve energy.

Do you reckon he gives big salve? Yeah, yeah. Stemless glass. Yeah, there was that moment where we sort of meet up for a lunch meeting, and, you know, we don't really know each other when they came around and said, drinks and you're sort of, I paused to be like, you know, who's getting a coffee? Is this professional or not? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And he immediately at the gate was like, I have a salve and I was like, great. Hugo sprits us all around, yeah. But we got to chew his ear off and learn some stuff about maths that didn't make it to TV. And some stuff we definitely can't tell you. Some stuff, like behind the scenes stuff. Do you know, I will say, I hope, just. Stop me if I cross any lines that you feel are not appropriate, Carwin. Oh, it doesn't ask me.

Doesn't trust my judgment. Not in the slightest, Shannon. You're a sweetie, but no, Carwin. One of the things, because we mentioned that we had Josh Fox on, who's the guy who does MAPS funny, who boycotts all the weddings. Gate crashes. Oh, sorry, gate crashes all the weddings,

and is like invited on by them. Yes. He told us, and he was like, hmm, and we were like, well we're sorry John like you know is it that bad apparently this guy like stalked John once yeah ambushed him in a car park building in the dark this was on TV so I think it's fine to talk about okay good good good good because remember he said Josh went on like the news yeah that's right so yeah he like John was like walking back to his car after a lunch meeting and then this guy was like ambush and was like I'm going to follow you wherever you go you won't get away from me

So then John was like... Just for content. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And to like attack him, basically. And then he was mentioning one previous contestant because, you know, even Jackie said to us when we talked to her from last year's maths, she was saying, oh, you know, all the judges are actors.

All the, what are they? Experts are actors. And he said one year he had like a one-on-one session with a couple that was in a dire state of, you know, their relationship. And after the session, when wrapped filming and they were leaving, the contestant came up to him and said, you're a pretty good actor, man.

I actually almost believed that for a moment. Wow. And thought genuinely, not trying to call him out or be rude, genuinely was like, are you not an actor? And he was like, no, I've done this for, what is he? I've been a psychologist. He's written books as well. Yeah, because he has to wear an airpiece, obviously, for production sake.

Like move it along or we're running out of time. And so people thought he was being fed lines. But you couldn't feed lines in that situation. It's conversation. It's back and forth. Wow. I'll say one spoiler that really made us laugh. So John is really, really fixated on clothing.

Yeah. Clothing that the people wear and stuff. He said in an upcoming episode, I'm sure I can say this, it's not giving way too much. One of the crims turns up to a dinner party and he's just not wearing a shirt. He's just like a jacket Just a jacket

With a jacket with Over a beer chest Yeah with like nips And belly buttoned and stuff Why would you think he is? Yeah yeah yeah I won't say which contester But man it was good

It was such good gossip He's such an amazing person And I will say at the end of lunch Where I felt very full of the gossip Shannon and Carwin Just go on this like cricket riff Hey he was a cricketer He was a critic

I think that that story arc is insane We'd have wine We'd have been having a good gossip session He's doing cricket. He's done the indie. He's like, he's like crazy good. He was opening Batsman. For who?

Wellington and Auckland. Yeah. And that's the thing. I was like, what was your home club? Like all this and Haley was out. She was not happy. I was left. I was ordering another salve at this point.

Get me out of here. Play ZM's Fleshhorn and Haley. At 660 on ZM, Flechforn and Haley. The show, thanks to Kim, his warehouse. Say hello to Savings. With their March catalog. sale out now. I want to know from you, lovely listener,

what is your yuck habit? This is a judgment freeze. Also, feel free to dobb in your friends and your partner's yuck habits. Absolutely. We want to hear them all because we've heard of this before. People, when they stay in like a hotel or a motel or a holiday

in, they will wash their undies by putting them in the jug and boiling the jug. And then the next poor bastard comes along to make a caper. Well, we also knew some that washed their period cup and... Oh God, I know. And I remember she put it online and just thought it was going to be sweet.

And I was like, take it down. You're going to get lambasted. Put, like, used a cup in the hotel and filled it with boiling water. And then washed the menstrual cup. Tell you later. She's a very dear person to me and I shan't have her facing that again. Okay. And she's like, it'll be fine.

And then she went offline for a few hours and came back. And she said, you were right. And I said, tend to be. The people aren't happy. The people are right. Also because in a hotel there's no dishwasher The staff just come in and rinse it in the bathroom Yeah in the sink

So I've known about this undy thing And I've always thought it was a thing that men would do But it's gone viral again on TikTok Because women are sharing like great cleaning hack When you're away For your undies Was this a woman that used the coffee machine? Oh no I saw it with a jug

But am I wrong like the coffee like the American Yeah I saw as straight as How they fit in their nose? knickers in an espresso. In the potso. They put it in where the pockers. It just blows boiling water through it.

Loo yuck! You wouldn't want to see the water that came out of that. Well, maybe it started with a coffee pot because... She says you press brew and... Oh, so it's an American coffee pot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You press brew and it puts scorching hot water through it. So you put the under these where you'd put the filter

in the coffee grounds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that would drip the water into the... Well, I think maybe that was the start of it because then there's lots of people sharing like, no, I just put them in the jug. And boil, yark. I would never.

The undies wouldn't feel clean and the jug is certainly going to hold a memory of it. Yeah. Anyway, listen. The jug, jug has a memory. It would feel it. Yeah, jugs have memories. Don't do that to you, jug. I floss my teeth in the car with portable teeth flosses.

Flesh does that work in the studio. I'm okay with it because whatever, but that would gross some people out. We're about dental health here. Yeah, I'm about dental. Because I don't want a lecture again from my... my hygienist. Remember when I did shave my foot skin off?

In studio. That was gross. And that's, yeah. And now I felt bad because Bree has to sit in this chair in the afternoon. And she was like, what's this flaky powder?

I was like, oh, I had a lambington. Girls be washing their undies in the coffee filter of coffee machines when they're away in hotels. Yeah. They're putting them in the jugs.

More the American coffee filters. A lot of hotels now have like the pod machines. I think you'd be pretty safe still using those. I don't like saying drip coffee though when we're talking about using it to drip the boiling water through the...

Through your unneys. Some messages and some responses on Instagram. We want you now to admit your gross habits. Yeah. Maybe your partner's gross habits. My ex-husband used to pick and eat his foot skin. Don't! We didn't kiss, thank the Lord above in hallelujah.

So you never kissed this person you were married to? Or just... Or you just... Or you just... I guess the loved dog. when you saw them picking their scabby foot and you're just like, oh, I'm not kissing that anymore. My partner picks his nose in the car and wipes it off under the car seat.

You've got a perfectly good window to flick that out right beside you, please. I like to just kind of roll it, because we admit on the show, chronic nose pickers. Yeah. You roll it between your fingers and you flick it out the window. But sometimes they're quite sticky. Yes, I know that's where you're to roll it. Yeah. You get a bit of flour, you know, when you're making pizza and you don't want it to stick.

You get a bit of flour and you get a bit of flour and then push it out the window. Yes, you'll admit to it. doing something in the car? I floss my teeth every now I'm in the car. I'm on your side, Jess, because I will floss in the studio with these little... He's got a pick stick now. From the show sponsor, The Grin... Chemist Warehouse.

Yeah, from the show sponsor Chemis Warehouse. I find the grin isn't long enough to get my back teeth. No, you use the pick. I agree. Yep. I'm not sure which drink I've got. Well, I've got one of the ones that's like the length of... She's in the car.

She's in the car. You have a look. So, I use the REATs one. and they have a better reach. Yeah. They're like the length of a toothbrush with a thing on the end. I've got that and then you clip the new heads on. Yeah, also at the show sponsor,

Chemist Warehouse, yeah, I've used both. I just use a classic reach minted string. You know, I go also. I dribble when I use a string. And I've got a water flosser too. Do you get any odd looks, Jess, in the car? Obviously, you've grossed people out with this, so. Well, to be honest, I haven't really noticed anyone.

I'm just like me, but yeah, I imagine it's probably quite similar to watching a nose picker. No, it's not, because flossing's good for you. If I see someone picking their nose, I'm like, I'm on your side. I'm on their side. I will keep watching them to see if they eat it. Oh, yeah. Or what they do with it, and that's when I'll be like, ooh.

Yeah, Jess, thank you for admitting that. Let's go to some text messages in, your gross habits. Somebody said... Oh, my God, do you remember that story? Yeah. Somebody messaged in saying, you guys once promised me if I told you a story, there'd be no judgment, and Vaughn called me a mucky. bitch. And I was like, I do apologize. What story did you tell? She said, I was the girl that

pissed on her terrible flatmate shower product, the new Lutha. And I said, I stand by it. You're a monkey bitch. You're a monkey bitch. You're a mucky bitch. Can we just dobb in our own mucky bitch? Yeah. Producer Shannon? Because producer Shannon's got, look at her mouth open. You've got, I think this is a yuck habit. I don't, but I can see why others do. Tell us what you do. Well, so I'm a contact lens wearer. And every single night I have dailies, I put it in a jar and and keep him in there. And I've got like... Somebody, I'll say somebody left some

contact lenses just on, drying out on my bathroom vanity. I'm like hard launch. Hard launch? Hard launch. No. What's your name? There's no... There's no hard or soft launch.

I was tagged them in a post at Ternuki's cave. Oh, shut up. Hard launch. That was a hard launch. It was rock hard. No, it was a medium launch because it was no face. They're so gross and they're all like,

bleh. What are you keeping them for? It's just like, fuck. You've got to put them in a ball while I follow someone on Instagram who's adding their contact lenses to a ball, made of contact lenses until it's the size of a basketball.

My contacts are so expensive it feels so wasteful to throw them away so I'm just keeping them. I can't use them again but at least I can look at them. I reckon it's like three years deep this jar. It feels like this is where we find this is like the origin story of when you're an old lady hoarder.

Yeah. I'm just got to keep the pooy nappies you know, I can't recycle them. In the future they might have a program we could clean them and reuse them. We use my pooey napes. Remember there was that person

who went on a date and then they realized that the guy they were dating had been taking off his contact lenses and flicking them behind his bed and they pulled the bed out and there was that mountain. I remember those photos.

Rustied. Yark. Shanny, you're going to rain it up. So gross people out there. Are we hearing from people who kissed their pets on the mouth? That's gross. That's fine.

No, that's gross. Is that the podcast done because I'm busting for a poos? Last thing for a poise. Jesus. Give us a review. Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley.