ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - January 28th 2026

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

On today's episode of Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod, Hayley received an email The worst day to be single Punch cards Top 6 - Things you'll miss about your local post office Are we getting a stand alone Heated Rivalry episode? The Ticket Master war Blood blind date What made you cry recently? Hayley's running update Americas next top model doco Fact of the day What old tech are you still using? Have you dated within the same family? Cassie Henderson Interview SLP - would you resign if your annul leave was rejected? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

from the ZM Podcast Network. This is... Fleshwin and Haley's Big Pod. Thanks to animates. Making happy happen for pets. Happy Wednesday. Welcome to the show, Fletch Fawn and Haley. Great day.

Great day to be alive, as is every day. I see you've topped up our tissues, Fletch. Thank you. I have. I went to the supermarket. That's definitely my shout. Yeah, Haley's turned to buy the box of tissues. I thought of you, when I was at the supermarket the other day,

tissues, pack and save $5 week. There were three boxes of tissues. The high-quality ones we like? Yeah, oh, and maybe not. Sounds like it would be one-plied. You didn't have a gorgeous to-y. You've got a toui on the box there. It's a good, nice, but I always get the ones with the nice designs in the box.

Well, that's important. Adds us something nice to the... A Chisacquot. To the studio. It does. It adds a bit of something. I've also noticed, I'm just going to point out a couple of things I'm noticing. Okay.

Vaughn the T-shirt I bought you from an op-shop. Really faded. I'm faded more than usual. I think you've put that in with a bleach watch, haven't you? Yeah, something like that. I was recently accused of not knowing how to wash a t-shirt properly is it shrunk after the first wash. I said I'm a cold water wash and a line hang.

Well, that's nothing to do with you then if it shrunk. Off my shoulders, cheap t-shirts is what it sounds like. It had hemp. It had hemp in it, would you believe it? Yeah, I do. I rolled that t-shirt up. I smoked it like marijuana. Did you?

Wow. Of course I didn't. This morning on the show, chances you to win Harry Styles, whenever you hear a Harry-style song, and not just today, but over the next four weeks on ZM. First caller through, you go in the drawer to see him live in Sydney and you win flights, tickets and accommodation for two

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The top six morning today they're shutting down a bunch of post shops. Dude, more than a bunch. A giggle of post shops. A herd of post shops. A flock. This is just, I live in Auckland Central. They've shut all of them down. Oh, I know.

So these are the post shops that share shops with other shops. Like, you go into a dairy? How many shops could a shop? A shop is a post shop and a shop in a shop. And then they add a vape shop. You got to get vapes. I tell you what, every post shop that shows down three vape shots open. Yeah.

Thank goodness. Well, my local dairy got rid of its post shop. I reckon they got sick of it. Because they'd have to go, they'd have to change counters. And they're two different tools. and the tools don't, they have to be separate tools. Well, they're shutting down a whole lot more of those post shops within shops. I've got the top six things you'll miss about those post shop shops and shops.

Post shops, shops and shops. That's right. Next on the show. A great start to my day. I've received an email. I woke up this morning, Haley, big pod. I work up this morning to an email from an Australian company that I worked with two years ago. Oh, okay.

And it just... What did you do for them? It was a TV thing. Okay. Yeah. And it says, Hey, Haley,

just got a call from an Aoutour accountant who worked on your thing. Da-da-da-da. Anyway, it seems we've found $129 and $52 owing to you.

Australian or New Zealand? Australian. Well, that's even more. That's even more. What's that at the moment? Because it's pretty bad at the moment, is it? It's really...

Z-D to odd. It's like the worst it's been in years. 86 cents. Oh, no, sorry. I've got to go. Oh, you did. One New Zealand dollar is earth 86 Australian cents. That is nuts.

It hasn't been that bad for a long time. Where is the New Zealand dollar good to put into and go travelling? Southeast Asia. Southeast Asia. Definitely not Europe. Definitely, definitely not America. The US dollar is like the worst it's been for years as well. So that is $150 and 22 cents.

Free money. Free money. So what am I going to do with it? scam. No, no, no, no. I know this company very well. Right. I know this person, personally, who has emailed me. Now, I got a hundred-a-handy-fitty buck. What am I going to do with that? This is, this is the, what's the word I'm looking for? This is the definition of bonus money. Because I wasn't expecting this.

It's free parking. It's free parking. It's monopoly free parking. I got free parking. And 150 bucks. I went to chat, chich, because I love Chachachit-a-ch-a-a. I use AI. And I said, I've come into a little bit of money. I said $129 because I forgot to convert. So 150 is. And I said I just want to have fun with it. Because I don't want them to say like,

Put it to raise the Powerball. You put it towards the Powerball Ouse. Well, I said, what could I buy? It's given me some little inspo. Okay. A really good candle. Was its first. A really good candle.

I mean, yeah. What? I'm sorry. Go out for dinner. Oh, okay, it said... For a nice dindon somewhere. Okay, it feels like you're trying to get on on my money. Sorry, I just needed to call that for what I saw it.

Didn't you get in on my voucher? What voucher? I didn't go and spend that voucher with you. Oh, you went at the voucher dinner. I wasn't at voucher dinner. I had a voucher for a restaurant and I had some friends and we went and we spent it. I wasn't one of those friends, so you sit back. You were busy.

Yeah, I was busy. Silk pillowcase. A fancy hand cream to keeping your busy. big. A perfume sampler, they say. I could get some statement earrings if I wanted to, a nice belt. Or just put it on the power bill. Oh, that's so boring. If you're listening right now, 9696, what should I spend my $150 on? Free money. Haley's free money. Any suggestions welcome. $150.

Text in 966. I know. She could give it to charity. Text in what charity should Haley give it to. That'd be nice, actually. Why'd you do that? Because now we have to. We don't have to. You don't have to. Wouldn't be very nice if you didn't. But you don't have to. Yeah.

Well, should we all contribute $150 each and then we can make it a nice $450 donation to a charity? No, because you didn't, you got that free money. It doesn't feel good, does it, when I force you to do charity? Well, that's a thing about charity. I don't like to go on about it. Like, I'll just not talk about it. Okay, some texts in. Meth.

Now, cut it out. Okay? I don't even know. How much 100, I don't want your meth. Yeah. No, thank you. Someone said buy some bras who on earth enjoys paying for them. Oh my God, that's a good idea.

I'm brad up. I'm freshly brought up. Yeah, yeah, I'm brought up. Yeah, I'm brought up. Yeah, I'm taking care of there. Massage? Oh, that's a good idea, like a boozy one. Massage feels something for you.

Thank you, 153 for seeing that I deserve something for me. 432 says some fun toys. I think she's like the bras. She's all toyed up. She's covered. I put her suitcase. in the Uber yesterday and Jesus, that's heavy. I don't even want to know.

I stop asking now what's in there. Especially when we're only way for like one night. Two nights, you know? It's weird. A jacket? Like what is there a battery? A car thing I should buy a jacket. Is it a generator in there or something?

Yeah, I should take it. Car battery. No. Oh yeah, to replace my bloody blazer that I left at the bar on Saturday night because I had too many drinks. Oh, that's perfect. The universe took away your Hugo Boss op shop jacket. And give it.

And has now given you a blazer money. I also want to say someone said, what about a domestic flight? For $150? What is this? We're here. The Fletch morning, Haley, big pod. So, it's Valentine's Day in like a couple of weeks.

It's next weekend, right? Oh, what are you going to do? Because love is dead. Love is so dead. I am, I'm actually away. I'm in the Coramandal. Oh. Doing a gig.

Doing some comedy. Oh, it's Valentine's Day a weekend this year. It's a Saturday. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I'm away. I'm away. Have I booked a nice sort of cute cabin to stay in while I'm away? Maybe I have.

Wow, so love isn't dead? It's dead. Okay. But it's like, every now and then it's like, I'm like, ha! It's still breathing. Don't cremate it just yet. Right, okay.

You know what I mean? So it's like that. It's in a rest time. Yeah, okay. I was going to say, it's like that body in the morgue that comes to life. Yeah. I was thinking more of it as a, like a crayfish on a plate. And you're like, yeah, right, ready to go.

And then it goes, and moves an arm, you know. So it's dead, but signs of life. Okay. So that's a couple of weeks away. And I think it makes a lot of people panic. Like, oh, you know, Valentine's Day, I don't have a love, no one to celebrate me. You know, is being single on Valentine's Day,

the worst day of the year to be single? And then you think, what about Christmas? But then you've got to remember that Christmas actually, you've got a lot of family and friends around. And that's actually about Jesus. Christmas? Yeah. Is it?

Yeah, it is. Since when? Oh, it's in the name. It's a couple of years. It's in the name. Christ Mass. Yeah, you're right. And also on Valentine's Day, because it is so about love,

it can actually, if your single turn into, like, anti-love and become quite fun. You know, lots of people have those, like, single parties. Well, surveys show that the worst day of the year, to be single, it's your birthday. So it's not Valentine's Day. It's not Valentine's Day. Is that just because you're getting one less present on your birthday? Well, you're not getting presents on your birthday. but also you're not getting that nice, personalized message.

You're getting a whole lot of friends being like, hey, happy birthday, and that's it. And you're getting those kind of generic presents that are like, oh yeah, I got you a voucher for glasses. You know, $40 voucher for glasses. You're like, so nice, thank you so much. You're not getting that, like, dedicated love from someone on your individual day.

Right. It's your day. Whereas Valentine's Day, we all share it, right? Right. So you're not getting that, like, special, special princess treatment that you expect on your birthday. As someone, you've been single for the last, forever.

Forty- 42 years. 46 birthdays. I mean, how was it for you and your birthday? I don't even care about birthdays, I'm not a birthday's, big birthdays person. Am I? You know this. No, no, no, no, not as much as, I need a fuss.

You need a fuss. I need a fuss. You need a fuss. Vaughan, you've got a birthday coming up. Yeah. And what, 20 days? 22 days, is? Wait, does this month have 31?

31. 23 days. 23 days. Yeah, 23 days. February has 28 this year, eh? Correct. Yeah, okay. It's not a leap year this year.

Yeah, it's not a leap year. Is it? No, it's not. The leap years every four years like the Olympics in the Commonwealth Games, but are they all on different years? 2026 is not a leap year. The next leap year is 2028. So the leap year is the same year as the Olympics, is it?

Because that's the next Olympics, right? I don't know. And they have leaping in the Olympics. That'll be why. That's why. That's the tie-in. They literally see. Long leap.

That makes perfect sense. You've got a thing as well, like if you are someone who's like, like me, for example, been in a long-term relationship for ages and you've got your birthdays, I reckon the first birthday out, you know, when your first single birthday after a long time, you are missing that, like, special treatment. Maybe that's why last year I was like harping on for a fuss. What fuss did you guys make? I can't remember.

Oh, a fuss was made. Oh, kittens. There was kittens. Yeah, that was fast. Yeah, that was fast. A desired fust, and it made me feel better about myself. So don't forget on, I think you just have to keep an eye out, not just for those that are single,

but for those that have single friends on their birthday. I think you might need to fuss a bit harder. Yes. Because it is considered the worst day of the year to be single. The ZN Podcast Network. Sorry, just before you get into this punch card trend, did you see Joe Exotic, you know, Tiger King? Yes.

Posting that, you know, his husband visited him in prison and left him a little, I guess, like if I was to visit someone in prison, and leave them a little treat, I would wear lipstick and I would kiss it, like that, and it would leave a little lip mark. And his husband did the same, but it's not a kiss of his mouth lips.

It's definitely his donut, printed on a little... How did you get the ink pad on the anus like that? His butthole. That's his butthole stamped on a piece of the face of the pretty. I'm almost impressed. And also weird... How did he get his ring like that?

It's prints of his booty hole. Yeah. Like you would put lipstick and kiss a letter like that be like, I miss you, my love. You raise a very good point. That is very impossible. How did he back up, press it in there? There's multiple stamps on one.

One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. And they're all, the paper doesn't look crinkled, so we didn't push that. Anyway. I'm sorry, I've really sidestepped there, but I just couldn't not share it. It's almost like he might have had a stamp made. A rubber stamp mate. It's like a cast me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyhow, from stamps to punches, everybody's making themselves a new online trend is making yourself a punch card it's sort of like to celebrate your accomplishments to put your accomplishments into a physical form

like a sticker chart yes for adults that's not a punch card isn't that like a time card well you could punch it you could stick around like on a bus thing when you jump on or a ferry

like a coffee card at a coffee shop yeah so you if you want to motivate yourself to go for a fork 4K walk or whatever Make it your own distance I just picked 4Ks

Because it seemed like a 4K walk How about 5K run more on that later Okay so a 5K run You could be like Haley's 5K run Punch card And every time you do it

You punch it So you physically see Your success So this is supposed to give you That little dopamine Thing of like collecting Yeah And little treats

Gameifying it but it's making it analogue How are people punching their cards Like can you buy a punches Can where do you buy those from Ali Xx TEMU? I love a little old train ticket clip. Oh, yeah.

You know the ones who used to come around? Yes, get that little tiny square ticket. Tickets, please. Did you ever push them back in and try and get a free one? Or yeah, if they didn't like, if they clipped it but it didn't fall out. That's disgusting. You could push it back in. That's illegal.

Ticket clippling. You've actually just submitted to a crime. Oh, yeah, ticket punch. There's ticket punches. Should we start a little... Like adult sticker charts. Sticker chart in the studio. You know what I mean?

What for? Like, every time we hit a KPI. You know, because we give us out... We've got our bell. Just to you right there, hon. Oh, it's right there, yeah. There you go. It was right in my face.

Terrifying that you couldn't see that. Like, that gives us our little dopamine hit, but we could do a sticker chart for it. Right. Each time you give Haley a compliment, you get a sticker chart or something. What you're saying is that we're like just big children that need a visual rewards chart.

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It works, right? So lots of people, is that this is kind of like a next. step on from people doing that journaling thing, you know, and they were like doing habit tracking. Do you remember those?

Our friend Matt, who is a teacher, has just message in and saying, sorry, hon, researchers suggest that stickers don't change behaviours. Yeah, but he teaches it. I'm sorry. It's quite a snobby school. He does, Ponzi Wichie. They're stickers. They just do whatever. They're grown up, surrounded

with stickers. They write to school in their helicopter. As a adult, I still look, I've got stickers on my laptop. I love getting stickers. Wait, so does Matt... Yeah, but it doesn't change your behaviour, does it? If somebody said, Be a good boy and you get a sticker, I'll be like, mm-hmm, I'm a good boy. Does Matt not give out stickers? What does he give out?

Matt, do you not give out stickers? Tell us what you do. He'll have to message us. Well, you don't have to message him. He's listening live. I found on Sheen, I've found a $7 ticket clipper. Hon, we don't support Sheen. Okay, we don't do that.

Hang on, why? Because it's made by sad children. Yeah, but you're just made by sad. You're just going to buy it off a company that imported it from Sheen and put a different tag on it. That's right. Supporting drop shippers, I think, is what you're supporting there. So what have you found on Shian? I found a $7 ticket punch and you can change what shape you're pumping out. Do they have one that's like a two heart?

They've got a heart one. They've got a heart one. Okay, I want to give one of those. They call it the love hole, which weirdly full circle. That's what we were talking about at the start of the break. You said Joe Exotic's partner, less than an imprint of the love hole. That is a full circle moment just like Joe Exotic's butthole. Play Zet.

Fletchhorn and Haley. From the Fletchborn and Haley group chat, this is the top six. Yes, today's stuff six dealing with the fact that New Zealand Post is going to close 142 urban retail stores. So these aren't standalone post shops because most of those have gone. Correct. These are the shops in like dairies and bookstores that exist. Okay, right. So where are we posting our stuff?

Well, my one went away sometime last year, my dairy that had the post shop. And I got a sneaking suspicion They never liked doing it anyway Yeah, really I don't know if it was a big money maker I don't think it was I don't think they made any money from it I guess the hope was people would come in

And buy like a dollar mixture And some chocolate But I never did I'm just looking I don't see my one mentioned here As shutting down Yeah It's inside the super rat

Haley I know the same one Yeah You know it I'm looking here though The Auckland Domestic Airport And Auckland

International Airport Post centres are both shutting Which that sucks because that was where a lot of people went when they forgot that they had a knife in their pocket and they'd post it to themselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right they had to throw it out. Yeah, 142 of them.

There's on the New Zealand Herald article, there's eight pages in a list of ones that are shutting down. So where do we go? Because sometimes you have to, like we've got one just next to work. I can't imagine that shutting. No, that's a dedicated post shop. That's a dedicated. And that's got all the PO boxes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, sometimes you do need to go in because you've got to sign the custom. thing if you're sending overseas, you've got to, you know, they've got to weigh it. Yeah, where are we buying these bags from? 29 of the store shutting her in Auckland, 22 are in Christchurch. I read a stat before that people who live in urban areas, 90% of people who live in urban areas will still be within four kilometres of a post shop.

But there are customers using the Brighton Post Center in Brighton, and Palmerston North Linton Post Center will now be more than 13Ks away from the next closest surviving store. There's more cuts to come. Yeah. So with the top six things you'll miss about your local post shop inside another shop.

Number six on the list, the dusty envelopes that nobody buys. Oh, just sat there right. Yeah, the jiffy bags, the big expensive. Yeah. We call it jiffy bags,

a sort of padded courier bag. Yeah. Impossible to write on with a standard pen. Oh, impossible. You need to know that. Or a Sharpie. Yeah, you get yourself a Sharpie.

But then don't touch it because it'll smudge. Yes. Number five on the list of the top six things you'll miss about your local post shop inside another shop. Going into post the letter and coming out

an ice cream. Yeah. Oh yeah. No, as a treaty. Yeah, a little bit of a treaty. Number four on the list of the top six things you'll miss about your local post shop inside another shop. The Perspex divided between the two desks where you go to write your address and the Perspex divided that does nothing. Yeah. Because it's see through and it's only about four or five inches tall. God, I get so passy when I see a dairy or shop that's still got a Perspex screen up from COVID. It's like, it's not doing anything. There's lots of dearies in town. Some of them get, it's just taken away now. Some of those are protective. Security.

Someone tries to clobble. Oh, no. I'm talking about the actual places. It's literally nothing. It's doing nothing. Number three on the list of the top six things you'll miss about your local post shop inside another shop is rounding up your purchase to the nearest $10 and buying some instant Kiwis. But we will need to take you to the other

F-Poss machine. Yes, you can't buy them together. And you're not allowed to use your credit card. I want the points. I've got a feeling that the local superede I've got that has You know, it's a dairy and a lotto and a post shop. I've got a feeling they're running in three different F-POS machines

that don't talk to each other. Is it not a vape store? No vapes. Interesting. No vapes. That's just down the road. Yeah, that's just down the road. That's down the road.

Just down the road. Number two on the list of the top six things you'll miss about your local post shop inside another shop. The pen on the plug chain, that's just a little bit too short. Yeah. And the worst pen. Very inky. Yeah.

And these were the pens I was imagining when it's impossible to write on that outside of that courier bag, because you'll go straight through it. Yeah. Or it's an inky mess. Yeah. And number one on the list of the top six things, you'll miss about your local post shop

inside another shop is once you've written on your letter, you've put the stamp on it, you put the address on it, that weird look you've got where you're looking for where to put it. Yeah. Do I take it to the counter or straight into the box? Is there a box? Do I put it in the box?

But sometimes they need to put another sticker on it. Sometimes they need to take it. But I don't want to have to line up. I've already got the thing. Because is there still a post box outside or is that been removed? Do I pop it in there? Do I go it to you? I don't know how anything works.

Like I lost lamb. That is the day's top six. The ZAM Podcast Network. Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley. Alibia Dean on ZM, Flechforn and Haley the show. Thanks to Chemist Warehouse Shop Smashing Deals at their January catalog sale. It ends today. I'm yet to watch Heated Rivalry.

I'm so behind. And it's so up my alley. It's so up your alley. I cannot believe you haven't. I know. I'm just dilly-dallying with TV. I'm just not watching TV. And listening to pull.

Podcasts and reading poetry. I haven't watched much TV. No. Like, sit down, I'll still watch it while I'm at the gym to take my mind off the fact that I'm putting myself through pain and misery and I'm sweating a lot and I'm not enjoying myself. Yeah, and if you didn't have to and you weren't a weight fluctuator, you wouldn't be here. I absolutely would not be there. Someone said to me yesterday, oh, what we're working today on the stairs up to the gym? I said, just working on not getting fat and old, my dude.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, ah, ha, ha. You're like, aha, what's funny? Uh-huh, enjoy your 20s, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's an incredible show that's kind of taken the world by storm in literally less than two months. Has it done a lot for ice hockey?

Or just gay? It's probably just made everyone think they're gay, to be honest. It's making people think they're gay. There's been multiple ice hockey players from the States, though, who have come out as a result. I think I know of three at least that have gone, oh yeah. Amazing. Because I guess it's like rugby, right?

It's just such a masculine sport. Well, half of ice hockey is fighting. Like, it's so, like, ice hockey. It's not a huge sport in New Zealand, but it's like so toxicly masculine. So it even surprised the executives at HBO. So it was made by a Canadian company and then it was acquired by HBO. And during its debut week on HBO Max, it accumulated roughly 30 million streaming minutes. Now that fails to get into the 50 most watched original programs according to like a research unit.

But then by the time it had finished by the week of December 26th, Time spent streaming the show was up 10fold, 324 million minutes. And it's just gone up and up and up since. 324 million minutes. So because it was so popular, it immediately received a season two. And we've got a little clip of Connestory

who plays the Russian. Which is weird because he's not Russian. And then you hear him and you're like, who's this? He plays a Russian ice hockey player who falls in love. This is him talking about season two. Fans of the series, fear not, it's coming back for season two. Where are we in that process? I think Jacob's still writing it.

I think we're going to be filming, I think, soon. I don't know what exactly. That soon is in the summer, do you think? Yeah, I think about then. Okay. You just made a lot of folks very excited. Yeah. So he's talking about Jacob Turney, who's the creator of the show.

So they're saying, this summer, right, which is our winter. So that's a fast turnaround. Well, apparently they filmed the show very quickly anyway. It took 36 to 37 days to film the six episodes. You know, it's just two people banging. And when you watch it, you can see like little shortcuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, there was an award ceremony and you know he's just literally on a, like a cheap stage.

Yeah. There's no audience. There's no cut to an audience. Absolutely. Like, you could just tell it's... Or on a budget. It was a budget show, but it was done very well. So people are hanging up for season two.

They probably won't have to wait that long, which is great. But there's a new rumor, unconfirmed. And the people involved in the show are like, we're not saying anything. But there's a rumor that there might be a one-off episode to tie people over. So like a little one-off special. Right. That will go into maybe one of Rachel Reid's other books,

who's the author of the book that went crazy. And just do a little one-off special. Like a little. Right. Somebody messaged and they've watched Headed Rivalry no less than 12 times. Get out. Someone said this to me the other day. they've watched it like three or four times. I was like, what?

That's wild. Someone said, girl, you haven't watched Heard of Rivalry? You have to watch it today. Today's in capital letters. Keep the charger ready. Wait, so that's, and then sweat face, sweat face, ha ha, panty face. I don't have time today. I'm really surprised you haven't watched it. It's like you're, it's a show for you. Am I the only time today that I would have to do this is at the gym I'd have to pull a vaugh? No, no, it's not a watch at the gym show.

It's not a watch at a show. It's a watchin. Private. Private show. Okay. Yeah. Well, you might. Do you know what's funded by the Canadian government?

So someone just messaged in, Jacob Tierney that wrote it did approach other execs for more funding. They wanted to change the show too much. He refused to. Oh, wow. Okay. So that's maybe why the budget was low. Yeah.

They filmed it quick. Sponsored by the Canadian government. Someone messaged in. Now, I don't know the world of the book. Someone said a one short episode of Scott and Kip. Yes. That's the room. the moment. Yeah, that's like the other kind of

backstory to the main story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So people are saying there could be a little dip in there. More than one gay couple in this book. Yeah, like I said, Vaughn, everyone that plays ice hockey's gay, apparently, I think. Gay as man. Wow. The Then End Podcast Network. Harry Styles has announced that we've got so

many trips to give away. So keep listening for those Harry Styles songs to go in the drawer. To see him live in Sydney, we've got tickets to the Sydney shows, but Sydney and Melbourne went on sale yesterday. Yeah. The pre-sales. Yeah, and that's always like such an anxious time for an artist like this for people trying

to get tickets, right? You don't want to miss out. And producer Carmen in particular, you were buying on behalf of you and Shannon? Yeah, and a couple of my other friends. Yeah. Yep. Five whole tickets which I've never bought that many in one go in any sort of

ticket circumstance. So that was quite scary. Usually there's a cafe like six is kind of... Sometimes there is, yeah. I think it was eight for her. Yeah, that's not bad. That's not bad. You were nervous about being the dedicated ticket buyer. What time did tickets go and sale? What was your pre-sale?

Listen, I thought it was two. It was actually two o'clock Australian time, so I was there early. But it was four. Four for Melbourne, and then it was... No, four for Sydney. That's right, and two for Melbourne. Two for Melbourne. Right.

Which ones were you buying four? Sydney. Okay, Sydney. Yeah. How did you go? We got tickets. Nice, nice, nice, nice. Yeah, it was...

Like, I don't think I've ever been in a line... Or maybe that time I bought your tool tickets. and it was like, there were like 8,000 people ahead me in the queue. I was like, oh, great. I got a screenshot from one of my friends who was trying for Melbourne. There were 21,000 people ahead of her. And she didn't get tickets. It was a few screenshots from Europe of people being 300,000 in the queue, though.

So we can be thankful. Yeah, well, 300,000. You're not getting a ticket? Yeah, well, they film themselves, and they're like, oh, there's only 29,000 people ahead of me, how good. And then they were like, oh, that's 296,000. They're like, oh. But also, I feel like our tickets were cheaper, right?

And some of the European... Yes, they were. I thought, what did you pay? Like, just under 200 bucks? Which I know was like a lot of money, but for considering what we're paying to see people these days, I don't think it's that bad. Yeah, the range was, I think, $60 in Australian prices,

$60 to $8.59, I want to say. But $60 you were in Melbourne, you'd be at the top, the very top of, like, Melbourne Stadium. You just got to fly over at once for one song. Yeah. Still there, though, which is the fun part of it. But, yeah, we got, um, front of it. front GA on the left.

So we're going to be front left. Oh, nice. Front left. So what is his GA divided that much? Yeah, there's front rear, front. And then there's a rare GA. And there's also four little pits that are like seemingly part of the stage. So you'll be like encapsulated by the stage.

Those were so expensive. Metallica had that too when you're like in the ring. Yeah. And there are stages around you. But it was really cool. But no, it was fine. I kept telling everyone. So we already had flights booked.

We had a combination booked. I kept telling everyone, I'm going to get these tickets. Like, I'm going, it's fine. And if I can beat the Ticketmaster War for, or was it Ticket Tech for Taylor Swift, I can beat this one. And I did. I'm so proud of you. Thank you.

For winning the war against Ticketmaster. Well, just like, how would you have been today? Like, it's good for all of us. Oh, yeah. God, if you hadn't got tickets, you would have just been miserable today. So Fletch, you offered to jump on to get tickets for your friends. Or Daddy's Amex. Yeah. I got Sean and Jared some Sydney ones on Daddy's Amex.

And so when Daddy was adding Sean and Jared's to the car. Yeah, like he might have got some Melbourne ones. Is Daddy going to go? Yeah, I'm going. Because I was like, you know what? I'm just going to do it. Wow, so you got into two different cues then. Yeah, yeah.

Well, the Melbourne one when I jumped on was there were already just tickets there. Yeah, I jumped into check prices and I just got straight in. I didn't need to buy any, but I just check the prices. Well, general sales are happening. Tomorrow? Tomorrow? Tomorrow. Yes, so the rest of the tickets.

All those details are at ZM online, but if you want free ones, because it is in Australia. The whole thing, we've got to remember flights, ACOM tickets, you know, you want to bring a friend. Yep, every time you hear a Harry-style song on ZM in the next three and a half weeks,

first call of through, 0800 dial Zatem, you go in that draw. Play ZDN's flesh, one and Haley. You know, we noticed that the New Zealand Blood Service app, which is like a red thing with a tear drop or blood drop very similar to the Tinder app and often you'll be on your phone

you're going to open one and open tether You're like why has no one like me? Often, often on your phone to open one and open tuffer? I just never happen to me once. I remember you mentioned this last... You're not on Tinder, you don't have Tinder on your phone. I remember this last year you mentioned this. Yeah.

And so New Zealand Bloods Purs are also like, hell yeah, it is very similar. So they've decided this year they can have a bit of fun with it. Okay. This is such a great idea. So hang on, I actually need to open the New Zealand blood app because... I haven't opened it for a while. I'm just logging in.

Yeah, yeah, I haven't opened it for a while. Because I can never in my life remember what blood type I am. And this is the only way I can know. Yeah, me too. Oh, the common one. Yeah, O, universal donor. Yeah, oh, negative or positive or something like that. Are you?

Is that a good one? I can't remember what I am. No. Well, but you have mad cow disease. I've got mad cow disease. Yeah. Are you allowed now that you're allowed to donate your mad cow blood? Yeah, yeah, something like that.

I forgot my password. Yeah, I've got to save my password. I might just open Tinder. That's way more fun. Let's have a little looky poo. What's on Tinder today? So the New Zealand blood one's red and the Tinder one's now gold. Or is that because I pay for elite...

Are you paying for elite Tinder? I'm going to say straight out of the gate. Are you paying for a late Tinder? I'm not here to... She's paying for gold. Wow. What does that get you? I forget what you were going to back to tell us.

I want to know what Elite Tinder is like. I'm not mad at the first offer. Yeah, but I don't think it makes a guy's hotter. Haley. It's not what it gets. It just gives you more swipes and stuff. Bonjour Bradley. She gets a little peek at their bits, doesn't you?

Right. Why is he so far away? Where's my location? Wait, I'm A plus blood. My mum's just here. Oh, yeah, me and you both. Do you want to swap blood? Do you want to match blood?

Should we do a transfusion? Yeah. Between our uncle's. right now. We'll just go straight between. Yeah. That's good to know though. Because if we're ever out

and you're bleeding or whatever I can just... Enlisted into World War III, we can help each other out. I've got a flat foot. Do you know why my Tinder was so hot, by the way? Do you know why my Tinder was so immediately hot? What? We're set in Australia.

Oh. They are just hot, right? Let me just go back to Ming and old Teiroa. Anyway, I'll digress. New Zealand Blood Service this year for Valentine's Day, but this is happening on the 12th of February, so a couple of days before. And just in Auckland at this stage.

Just in Auckland at this stage. But I reckon if this goes well, it could be like an annual thing that they do. This is at the Epsom donor centre, which is the massive one in Auckland. That's the one I always go to. That's the one with the vampires outside. Yeah. But they're not allowed in unless you invite them in, so please don't invite them in. Yeah, yeah.

They're like, please let me in. So on Thursday, the 12th of February, the Epsom donor centre, they are hosting a blind date for Valentine's Day. So you can go on your register, you can reach out to them on social media at New Zealand Blood Service, you go on your register your interest there, it's all on their social media,

and you can take part in this thing. You have to be eligible to donate blood. So there's a few things there. You can get it all online, good health, don't be sick, basically. On you, that's you out at the moment. You've got a sore throat. New tattoos.

I woke up this morning with a sore throat. What a bunch of bullshit. What a baby. No, I know. Is this your first big sickness for the year? Because you normally have about three. You know I wasn't sick a lot last year. No.

You did have your big sick. With everything that happened. I think your body said, hey man, I've just been listening to what your mind is doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm going to relax. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So three months stand down if you've had a piercing or a tattoo or stuff like that. But a lot of people are eligible that think that they aren't.

What about the gays now? Yeah, yeah, we're good. We love gay blood. I'm the guy's back. The guy's back, baby. Guess who's back? You're gay or you kissed a cow in the 80s or whatever. You're all good.

If you ate a gay rissol? Wait, so you can be gay, but what if you kissed a mad cow? Was the mad cow gay? What if you're a gay with a tattoo? When did you get your tattoo? Oh, okay, all right, well, check it all out online. How gay's the tass? You're going to be age 20 to 30.

That's more, I mean, it's for eligibility, but also you don't want, you know, if we're doing a blind date thing, you don't want to have a 20-year-old there in a 60-year-old. Yeah, yeah, 65-year-old. And comfortable being on camera because they'll be filming it for socials. Oh, nice. How good this is you going to go along to this? saying you're going to connect with people that are there and you donate blood at the same

time, save lives and maybe meet the love of yours. They're also going to meet someone else who's charitable that likes donating. That cares for people already. Green flags are flapping. Then you're going to see what kind of biggie does this homie like? You know, like what kind of juice is he reaching for? Is he being a little bitch

about the needle? What if it's a, what are the biscuit options that they have? They've always got like a digestive, like a chalky dip digestive. Yonge. Always a ginger nut. They've got the little cheese and Cracker packets. I thought the last time I donated the, the options were great. Okay, right.

Yeah, they have many twixers, many KitKats. Do they do like, oh, they do, okay, because I was going to say, do they do squiggles? I don't know. You've ever seen a squiggle there? I'm sure for this Valentine's Day special. It'd be some good food. Yeah. They might cater.

The ZM podcast network. Play ZDM's Flash forun and Haley. We want to know now what made you cry recently. It's great. It's great. A cathartic cry is. great for you. And yesterday, producer Shannon felt the need.

Oh no, there needs to be a rhyme for that. Felt the... Drived cry, kind of. Kind of that's internal rhyme in there. M.M. could make that work. Yeah, he could. She didn't want to lie, so she had a cry. She was called to ball. That's pretty good. She felt the call to ball.

She felt the call to ball. It was a beautiful workshopping moment. It was actually. That's how that works. Genius. Who are we billing that to? If we're a creative agency, some clients got to pay. client, yeah, let's go and have a lunch. Some fast food place. Let's go have a drinky lunch. I get this so, Shannon, because sometimes it doesn't just come out.

You feel the need for it, but exactly, you need something to make you off. Juice, juice it out. So what did you choose to watch? Well, as you know, I love documentaries and I love learning, and I knew that today was the 40-year anniversary of the Challenger flight exploding.

That's amazing, congratulations that you know that. Well, it's just one of my specialty subjects. You know, I love Rescution, and, is one of them out of them. It is, you're so, you're bizarre as anything. You don't make any sense. You watch the most trash reality shows. But you can't, you cook a chicken.

You can't cook a chicken. You buy dairy chicken. But you knew today, the 28th of January, is the 40th anniversary. Yeah. Do you want to know what? There's a real reason I knew the date is because in the documentary, it's on Netflix, one of the wives of the deceased crew members, It happened on the 28th of January

and after she found out he passed she went into her room and she found that he had already written his Valentine's Day card to her. Oh, in case. And it's always stuck with me that it was the end of January. And just before Valentine's Day. Just before Valentine's Day. And so yesterday I was like, it's time to open up

that vault of my soul. And you just knew it would make you cry because there's that story of this in there. And also just the 40 years, like it's a real time to reflect. and I just... God, haven't we come a long way in space exploration? If you're wondering, the cause was O-ring sale failure and the right SRB due to cold weather and winchia.

And it just blew up, didn't that? It was even half, second flight. And the worst part about it is they knew. There was all these people who signed off saying, if you take off in cold weather, they will die. And everyone's like, yeah, go for it. Oh, man, it's getting me. There was a school teacher on board, eh?

Krista McCullough. Oh, man. And wasn't Big Bird supposed to be on board? Yeah, but he didn't. fit, he was too big. Wait, wait a second. I did not know this. You're telling me that Big Bird nearly died in the space shuttle

Challenger. So basically they sent up Krista McCuller and she was meant to teach two lessons from space and they were going to send Big Bird with her to make it more exciting for kids. Yeah. Everyone was sick of the space race because of Russia and all that. And so, man, this is getting really so good. Wait, why didn't they just chuck in Miss Peggy or Kermit? Oh, but Big Bird.

I'm sorry, so they were more sacrifices. No, he's saying for space. For space. For size. But they tried to get, there's this photo. Just Google it of Big Bird trying to get in the space rocket. He doesn't fit. Please, somebody Google that for me.

Immediately. Wait, do you think that if Big Bird had fit in the space shuttle and it exploded, that they would have ridden him out of Sesame Street forever? Yes, because then we would have used it as a teaching moment for children about grief. Oh, God. Don't. I already cried so much yesterday about this tragedy. This is wild

I had no idea about this Amazing It's one of the most tragic pieces of history And if you ever need to cry Please just go to Netflix and watch it It's so amazing that you're a history buff But it's just, yeah It's so busy

And it's so good We want to know What's made you cry lately dear listener It could be something small Yeah What set you off Maybe it is something that you go to For a cry

As well Like maybe it is something sad Or a movie or a TV show That every time you're like I just me I just started following someone on Instagram. Let me find it. And it's this guy who films himself every time a real makes him cry.

And then he adds them together in his own reel kind of quoting, you know, the soldier coming home and the dog is waiting for him. And they just cuts to another thing. And you're like, this is great. This is, it's good to cry, Fletch. Okay, 0,800. It's great to cry, Fletch. It feels really good Fletch.

It's not time to make a change. How is that not getting you? No, it's just not. Oh, the times that I cried. 0800, dials at Em is our number. Give us a call. You can text through 9-696. What made you cry recently?

We want to know what made you cry recently. Samantha, what made you cry recently? Jury stealing my son's books last night for his birthday of school. Did you get bubbles, babe? Did you get bubbles in it? I didn't even get that far. It's ripped in half. It folded on top of itself, and I threw a mist of tantrum and cried.

Oh, I saw it. It was a frustration cry. I thought this was a moment of realization that your little boys growing up. No. No, it was totally an angry cry. It was a, I can't do this cry. Wow. There's a real antitura ceiling.

You've got to be, you know, very precise. Oh, God, yeah. Yes. Did you get the job? We went through a whole world. Did you get it done? Is it done? Is he going to school?

I had to get my mom to come and rescue me. So back in the days of her doing it for me and my sister, she came to the rescue and helped me get it done. Wow. That's so good. That's so good. Samantha, thank you. Anastasia, what is it that made you cry recently?

Morning team. It was actually Graze Anatomy. So I watch it religiously. I love it. I watch it. Every time it comes to, I only have Disney plants because of it. Okay.

And if I feel like I need to cry, I just pick a random episode where I know either someone dies, someone gets cancer, someone gets a divorce, and I just cry, and it's the best thing ever. Do you have them written down or like saved or flagged as those episodes?

No, I just know from the pictures. The really good one is when George dies. Spoiler alert. It's one of the first few seasons. Oh, Anna Stitt. No, okay, don't know where we all know. But yeah, like, it just, it just works. Even my partner knows.

I'm like, I'm going to go watch Grayson Dan, and he's like, okay, honey, take some tissues. I love that so much. Get the job done. So good. Anastasia, thank you, Nicole. What was it that made you cry recently? Hey, guys. Good morning.

I was spectator tickets to Hierox sold out on Thursday, so at work I just bawled my eyes out of the thought that no one could watch me do a solo highrocks. Oh, my. Oh, I thought you were... George's up on her feet. I thought you were sad because you missed out on spectator tickets to watch the hot guys do like pull-ups or something.

No, I'm doing two ironses, but yeah, no one can watch me. So what's the point of doing it? So what's the point of doing it? She's been on the radio and tell everybody she's doing it. You know, you had just been on the radio and told everyone you're doing high rocks, which is, I think, pay, rule one of high rocks. You've got to tell us, you can. Yeah, yeah.

Well, Georgia's, are you doing high rocks, Georgia? Yeah, Georgia's doing it. Well, Georgia will watch you, Nicole. She's doing it as a duo. Oh, okay. Well, Georgia will be your spectator, Nicole. Yeah, there's no point doing it if I don't both. God, no, there's literally no other benefit.

No. Yeah. And you're telling me, people go along and watch this. Yeah. You know, it must be horrible warm with all that, you know, the ming is. Yeah. You met your boyfriend there. No, I want my boyfriend there.

Oh, you want, I was going to say, I think you met your boyfriend at Hirox. I was going to, but you're an unbearable couple. Why don't you have your boyfriend at Hirox? Have you seen the plethora, the platter spread before you? If I was single, I definitely would be looking. Yeah, I think, and I, you know what, Nicole, I think that's what the spectator tickets sold out. Yeah. Just an inkling.

Just an inkling there. Thank you, Nicole. Keep your text coming in, 966. What made you cry recently? Plenty of crying going on. What made you cry recently? So many. I cried because my dog, my four-month-old Rottweiler,

despite there being a fence and a cage between them, managed to jump fence, break into cage and eat my guinea pigs. Oh my God. I cried yesterday because they watched a 12-hour home makeover show and they made the house look absolutely beautiful, but the person whose house it was was was blind and couldn't see any of it. Oh, no. 12 hours that's not enough time for a good makeover that's taking so many shortcuts

wait is it was the show 12 hours or the makeover was 12 condensed to one hour episode no no they had 12 hours to renovate a home and they made it look so beautiful okay right but the person was yeah okay that made our text a cry cry I got harry styles tickets yesterday cried in front of the entire team at work and um middle-aged colleagues safe to say they think I'm a crazy crazy snife like yeah um I cried recently. I did the Paparo Great Walk at 17 weeks pregnant.

Booked pre-pregnancy. Got to the fourth day and had a mountdown because I didn't want to walk anymore. Fair enough, but you're like pregnancy meltdowns coming in. That's a problem when you do a four or five day hike. You've just got all those days. I do this. The thought of my cat dying got me last night,

young and healthy. Aw. I do it all the time. Sometimes I look at Rolly and I just think of that day. I can't. I've recently told somebody with a cavudal. oh my convert will live to 17 and they started getting really upset.

And they're like, if that's the case, they're only got 14 more years. I feel like your dog should have clocked out at least at 13. Lulu was clinging to life. Yeah, that was like a white walker, Game of Thrones, ghost dog.

I don't want to talk about it. But she's dead. No one. Okay, sure. My partner doing something nice with me made my cry. I had been bottling up a lot of things, but it broke me.

Being an adult is hard. Zero to 10 would not recommend. Yeah, adulting is hard. The alternative to adulting is death, though. I think as hard as adalting is, it's got to be the better option. My kids pulled a prank that my son got a tattoo of me on his shoulder. So I cried because that was crazy and then eventually found it it wasn't real and I cried again in relief.

Right, okay. My boyfriend bought his first boat. I was just so excited and happy from the tears came out of nowhere. Oh, that sounds well done. I cried at the ad with a three-legged dog and the one-legged man. that's a beautiful lad Just find themselves They just like complete each other

But they're both dead now ain't Jesus, Vaughn I think so Oh Vaughan How's Fawn When's some subtlety Well the dog is definitely passed Oh Vorn

But I felt like the guy died Not too long after Oh god Couldn't live without a dog It sounds like urban legend Sounds like you're making that up My might be Sometimes I remember things wrong

Yeah Um Excited dog Tripped me up Smash my forearm Forarm against the corner of the wall I cried. That's pain cry.

Yeah. Bridget Jones's diary made me cry the other day. I've had a pretty rough year. I've been putting off any emotional movies. Yeah. Oh my gosh, the waterworks float. I was bawling my eyes out the whole time. I get emotionally every time I watch the movie Cars

and Lightning McQueen and Sally Carrera go for a drive and Lightning realizes that there's more to life than just racing. Oh. Those movies are very emotional for, you know, talking cars. Yeah. Did you read Cricky Gellon, Louise? No, I didn't read Cricky Gellon Louise. She's been watching.

YouTube videos of mountaineering glaciers of tears watching a memorial for David Lama and two other supremely gifted young alpinists who all died roped together in an avalanche in 2019. Oh geez. Sounds harrowing. Just sort of feel, yeah.

Jeez. I cry thinking about extinct animals at least once a week. What extinct animals do you think? Will he mammoths? Do we the Do-do get you going? Because I don't think we would have If the dodo was around

I don't think we would have liked it History would not be much different Should the dodo have survived? No No but I think we're looking to be like Ugh like we do a geese Make some weird noise like that They re-indue it

And then everyone's like Oh I shouldn't have done that No Yeah I'm a 6'4 3 Pacifica male But when on America's got talent Or anything where there's a golden buzzer

Or the chairs spin around or whatever When the dads are crying Because their kids are getting that tick Oh, yep, yep. Always sets me off. Gets you. Well, pregnant, I cry because I put honey on the left piece of toast instead of the right. So I'm so sorry to hear that.

Just turn her. Wait, does someone always start on one side? Just rotate the toast 180. She's pregnant. You can't reason with her. Can't reason with her. You can't explain to her that this is a fixable offense. I hope her partner did say, just rotate the toast money and then he got it.

Oh, no. What are you? We had his head bit off. I hope he did. Play that ends. Flesh, Worn and Haley. Now don't worry people I am not going to turn into

Georgia Burt who does nothing but talk about her high rocks I'm just being mean because she's behind me and I love her and she's just a wonderful gal got to find something to be mean to her about I'm not going to become that person but I just want to give a little update because yesterday we comment on on the fact that I don't often

follow through on things that I commit to and I have committed to running with a group an 8.5. The round the bay is in Auckland. I'm doing that. And that's in five weeks. And I've known about it for, say, three weeks. And between then and now, I've done zero runs.

Yes. And I can't turn up on the day into an 8.5. For some people, that'd be very easy. I'm not a runner. I've never been a run. I hate running at Soboro. But that's the kind of run that there are a lot of people that don't normally run. It's more just of a fun thing. It's a walk run. And a lot of people just walk it.

A yog. A york. is a jog. A jog. I'm committed to running the whole thing as a personal goal for no other reason they're just to like prove to myself. That you can.

Do I get a medal? No. At the end of round the base? Honestly, they give medals out for everything these days. Millions of people do it. How many medals? Oh, they do? I think they do.

They'll recall that for World War III. They're going to need all of our medal to build the planes and bombs and bullets and stuff and guns. Just going to have a little look hey. Do I get a medal? The finish line, collect your well-deserved finishers medal. A cool drink and enjoy the after party. After party?

I'm here for the party. Wow, okay. So, yeah, we talked about this and I've done no training. And then so yesterday I got home and, well, I had a sleepy. I made a hell of an omelette. Then I had a sleepy. Then I woke up. Then I did a bit of mahie.

And then I was like, here we go. I'm going to go for a run. What time was it? You're leaving it very late. I did. 2.30. I'm surprised you didn't flake at that point. I always flake.

If I don't go do straight from work, right, I'll never. I've got to do exercise as soon as we leave work, otherwise it's not happening. It's not happening. So, I know, that's part one of why I was proud of myself, because I did. I put on my shorts and my t-shoots and my running shoes, my cap, and I have my headphones, and I said to my mom, I'm going for a run. I'm doing it. Yeah.

And I did. I ran yesterday. I ran five kilometers. That's amazing. That's amazing. And how did you feel? Awful. I hated every step.

Okay. And it's not about how fast you did it, but how long did it take you to do five months? Really slow, 36 minutes. Okay. Which I used to run maybe 5K in about like 28-ish. I've never been fast. But, you know, that's the baseline.

And I did it. And I ran 5K. So the first, and I walked a kilometer. I walked a kilometer, then I ran 5K. And the first kilometer, it was horrible the whole time. Oh yeah, but then once you get into the rhythm... Then the second one's good, the third one's good,

and then four to five, like if you were in the West Auckland region, I don't want to say my suburb, because you guys have got a few weirdos out there. Like, you would have seen, I was sort of like stomping, you know? And like, I was having a mental... It's the mental game that I'm really bad at. Just be like, just keep going, just keep going, just keep going. And then it was hot.

Heat of the day, I was in the peak of the day. Mum was like, that's stupid. That was a bit silly. I was thirsty, came across a fountain. I love stuff. So that was nice. Oh, you've got to, don't put your lips on it. I didn't lip it.

I didn't lip it, but I was like, and then I had my headphones on, obviously, but I could feel how loud the breathing was. Right. And I think people like, you know, you'd run past someone in their yard or run past a builder on a site. They would have absolutely heard me gasping. But you know what?

Good on you. You did it. You did it. Good on you. Five kilometers. So when's your next run? I'm sore now. And how's the scale?

skateboarding going. No, well, hang on, I can't focus on all of these things in once. And is today a reform of Pilates Day or? Well, that's tomorrow, but I also, I'm going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. So the skateboarding is paused, and the Pilates pause for now. Right, okay, great. While I focus on my life as a runner.

Right. I'm also trying to write a new hour of stand-up comedy. I need a holiday, and I feel like we just came back, right? The mind worked well when you're going for a run to think of comedy? No, no, no, no. All I think about is, I hate this. Who would do? this who would choose this life my legs hurt

why does it all hurt this sucks I hate this how much further okay I'll just go to that lamp post that lamp post is ages away I might just walk for a little but I hate this right maybe you should change your thinking at one point I got angry you know like at one point I hated it so much I just felt full with rage but not the great rage that fuels you

a rage that was just like just stop just stop just stop well I'm excited for the updates and I'm excited to see you on the finish line of this someone said Haley's life is getting more and more like an episode of Miranda every day I am a Miranda-ish. That's how I praise that was a very funny show. Very funny show, but a very chaotic

main character. Yeah, and that's not untrue. Play. Play, Z-N. Flash, one and Haley. Hindsight's a great thing, you know? And we look back at some of the things that we watched and did and celebrated years ago, and we think,

oh my God, and America's next top model is one of those things. And I think in the last few years, there's been lots of commentary around like the body shaming, the problematic behaviour, the abuse on a show like that, and we've all kind of known about it. A lot of reality shows from those days from the 2000s. Brutal.

Yeah, like we used to be like, oh, hey, fanny, get on the scales. And you're like, oh my God, this is terrible. But America's Next Top Model. It's just the subject of much controversy. Controversy. Controversia. Controversity. Yesterday, Netflix dropped a trailer for a show called Reality Check inside America's next top model.

We had an audience of over 100 million people. I felt like I was part of something so big. That was a moment where I realized, oh my God, I think we built a monster. There was a lot of body shaming. We got thin enough. We're not thin enough. We are actually going to switch your ethnicities.

Baby girl, baby girl. Black face. They did black face. Wow. Wow, I don't remember that. There was like early 2000s in near one of their photo shoot challenges. which, like, the rest of the trailer, it goes on about, like, the show just got so big and so big

that they just kept pushing it and pushing it and pushing it and seeing how far they could take it. And they show this. But, yeah, they show like a moment of that, which was the black contestants became white or Asian. The Asian contestants became white. The white contestants is blackface. Like, and we were all like, wow.

How will they embody this? Like, it was extreme. So these are one of my initial thoughts Oh they also showed this one moment Where one of the judges comes up He's like, look at you, you look incredible And he puts his fingers just like that Around one of the contestants' waist

Like this, like apex fingers And thumb touching like that And they're celebrating it So that's one of their biggest things That they're slam for is the body shaming And the promotion of eating disorders And like people were fainting Yeah, and Tyra Banks is involved

So this is what, this is my immediate response to it when I watched it with its poppy music and the big, nice, clean interviews with Jay and Tyra and all the judges, it feels like they're part of producing this and they're getting ahead of something that could come out that would be much darker. Ah, because somebody said there's a podcast called The Curse of, Colon, America's Next Top Model, through conversations with dozens of former contestants, producers and crew members, the curse of America's Next Top Model explores what happened behind the scenes in one of the most iconic and problematic reality shows of our generation.

And it goes through, but they're not involved in that. Exactly. So all of the judges are there. What could come out that we don't already know? We all not as problematic. I think heaps of stuff from the contestants. Because they all lived in this house. It's like the food deprivation that they were given.

They were eating cotton balls? Yeah, yeah. They were doing all sorts of awful stuff to them. And when you watch this trailer, I don't know, you'll probably clock it. I feel like they're involved in it and they're going to do like an apology. Like, it was the time. We kept all this pressure and yes, we admit we went too far, as opposed to it actually like dirty expose.

It's a three-part series featuring all the interviews, as you said. It's directed by the guys that did American Manhunt Osama bin Laden. Oh yeah, personal favour of Shannon. You love that and you have controversially said quite attractive. Oh, listen, you know. She would. It's one of my favourite documentaries. I think I'm up to viewing seven or eight now.

Wow. Why have you watched it so many times? I watched it all Christmas Eve and my partners like that. psychotic. Yeah. You were like, shut up, I'm watching, I'm watching my, I'm watching the takedown of Bin Laden. Yeah, I'm watching my stories about sexy.

Yeah, it's just crazy, man, because they have the guy who actually shot him in the doco. Like, that's next level documentary. And it goes, Christmas Eve, he had a sort of a brown Santa vibe, didn't he, Bin Laden? He sort of did the beard and everything. Like, if he smiled, he could be quite jolly. Yeah.

So, three part series is out, Feb 16. Yeah, so it's not too far away. I'll definitely be watching it, but yeah, I'm just, I'm a little hesitant to be like, yeah, let's really get into the grit of it. because they're all there, the people that did these harrowing things being like, oh my God,

it was a crazy time. Yeah, whereas if it was not then, it might be a bit more unfiltered. What did you actually do? But, I mean, I think plenty of scandal and a good fascinating watch, yeah. The ZN podcast network. This is a show real.

Play ZDN's flesh, for one and haley. Fact of the day, day, day, day. It's logo It's logo week here at fact of the day And I know you two have both got this app on your phone And for anybody that's got the Airbnb app Have a look at that logo Oh, absolutely looks like genitals

It does, doesn't it? Yeah. I've been using it a lot over the holidays and every time I said I'm like, ah, genitals. It looks like both genitals. It kind of looks like a fanny upside down and a C&B. Oh, I never thought about that. Like that way.

Both ways up. It looks like genitals. Yeah. And that's the... Is that accidental or is that on purpose? It was accidental. Okay. So in 2014 they revealed that new symbol and it's called the bello. The bellor?

Yeah, balo. What does that mean? Belo. It's a word they invented it. They made it up. It was four shapes in one. So you can see an eight. for Airbnb.

Yeah. Can you see the heart? Yes. Yeah, you can see the heart for loving, traveling and loving being around. A location, you can see the heart for loving paying a cleaning fee.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And exorbitant prices. Yeah, yeah. A decent... God, didn't... Like everything that's an app started out so cheap and nice, didn't it? I know, we're all like,

oh my God, you'd never get another hotel. I feel like people would just go back to hotels now. Cleaning fee, 9,000 million. Yeah, yeah. $300 a night, that doesn't seem too bad. That's pretty good. $8,000.

Service fee $900,000. Hey, you've got to pay back those tech investors. This is true. This is true. Actually, you do. There's four things in it. There's the A for Airbnb. There's the heart, location bin, and a person.

A person? Yeah, there's a person in there. How's there a person in there? It's the loosest one. It's the one that's really stretched. I don't see a person there. Yeah. That's the stretch.

It looks more like. I see boobies. Yeah, boob. There's pretty much all of the genitals in there. There's a butt. There's boobs. There's male and female. Actually, you know, that could be somebody bent over and that's their...

A noose. A noose. Correct. It could be. Goodness may. Looking you right in the eye. It could be looking down on boobies too. There's, you know, it's everything.

So when they revealed it, they were very happy with themselves. And immediately people were like, it looks like that. It looks like a flipped question mark and body parts and anatomical shapes. Yes. Of everybody. But it's stuck around and it's still there. And they let it go. They said, oh, people will forget about this.

People will still have it's gone about it. People still talk about it. It looks like that, but it's been around for over 12 years now, and it's got its own name, the Palo. Bellor. So today's, our fact of the day for logos is about Airbnb. And if you look, it's got four things in one. A, a heart, a location pin, and a person. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day, day.

The ZM Podcast Network Play ZM's FlashForn and Haley Well I was wearing it a bit over the weekend in Christch because I had to carry my phone charger around with me And I didn't have a full battery the entire weekend Because my phone, bless it, it's old It's lastly, it's old And it's battery dies really quick

Like I'm already at 59% What cheap? And it was fully charged overnight And I charged it in the car on the way to work. I'm at 90. Yeah. I'm at 56, but I didn't charge it last night. So that's how good the new battery is. That's wild. Yeah. That's wild behavior not charging your phone overnight. I know. What? The old... The old monster? So I was being mocked for the old... Why was it occupied? I was charging something else. What were your charger? Someone else's phone.

So back to you, you've got a old phone. Yeah, got an old iPhone. Whose phone were you charging? It could have been anyone in the house. There was a phone in my charger. could have been Patsies, could have been Craigs. Could have been anyone's. Could have been anybody's phone at this stage. Wow. Maybe you need another charger if this is going to be... Maybe get another charging cable. Yeah.

A recurring thing. Just anticipating us having to wake you up because your phone's gone dead, you know? I think that's why I had such a terrible sleep. But no, remember, I've got my alarm clock now. Oh, that's right. I shan't be fooled again. So I was mocked for my old tech. Yeah.

It's kind of embarrassing. Also, you can get it all. work phone surely. Yeah, I should look into that. Yeah. That sounds like admin though. Yeah, I know. We need to have one of those girly admin nights. Yeah, we should sit around and do our admin. Do an admin. Where Fletch and Haley just organise your phone. Yeah. Okay. You know, whoever needs to be emailed. I don't know who needs to be email. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sounds like an email though, doesn't it? Yeah, it does.

Sounds like an email job to get that dumb. So, I want to know from other people, what old tech are they still rocking? My dad's iPhone is the small, I think it's a six. Six. Is he rocking a six? Yeah, but he only uses Facebook and every now and then will answer a call. Like, he's barely on it. Yeah, yeah. You know, he's not Craig Sproul from Pioneer Finance these days.

No, he's not, the phone's blowing up. Mr. Finance, Mr Finance is going to get along. I need money, I need money, I need money. No, no. And yeah, my mum found her now. I, the only old tech I'm holding on to is my iPod. You know what were the big ones, that word? With the click wheel.

Yeah, with the click wheel. Of the originals. And I cannot part with it because it has an iconic playlist on it that I curated and I just have dreams of getting it off and putting it on. I heart radio my chosen music source when I'm not listening to the live radio ZDM.

I just want to really laugh out louder. Thank you. During the day, Brian Clinton and the evenings. Yeah, lovely. Brooke late at night. Yep, lovely. When I'm not listening there, I go to Iheart radio and I want to have my playlist

and I want to get it off my iPod. Can you even charge that thing though now? No, because it's got that inch charger and it's warped at the bottom but in my mind someone can. Can you make one of those chords from, like... I think I've got one of those old charger cords.

I've got one of the cords, I just mean the hole in the iPod is a bit flimsy ones that you know. Right, you have to get it lined up perfectly. But there are some people that just, like, I'm not one of them. But, and I realize that, you know, it's, that's, um, very, I'm very fortunate to be able to upgrade my phone. Yeah, totally. You know, but some people just are so thrifty. Like, even people that I know that can afford to upgrade their phones,

They all hang on until like, so we're rocking a six or a seven. I'm like, but don't you want to see, like, don't you watch videos on this thing? Like, don't you get on flights or, you know, go to the gym and watch videos? And they're like, no, that's okay. Offering to my granddad, because, you know, the warehouse does cheap flat screen TVs. I was like, Pop, let me get you one of these. You know, it's going to cost like a couple of hundred bucks. And they had the big ass on the back of this TV.

No, no, because then he's going to learn to use a new remote. Yeah, and he was like, I know how this one goes. And also, it still works. Yeah, kind of. It still works. It's fuzzy. Yeah. Oh, is it?

Pretty fuzzy. Oh, I'd see what. It won't be 8K high definition. No, God, he can't 8K. No, no, definitely not. It's square. Okay, well, this is what we want to know this morning. 0800 dials at M.

You can text in as well. 9-696. What old tech are you still using? We're talking about old tech that you're still using. Why replace it? If it's still working. Yeah. Or just do what Vaughn does and carry around a phone.

Why don't you just get a portable battery pack? Yeah, I'll get one of us. Because Vaughn... I've got a number one of them somewhere. Probably give me a half a charge. Just everywhere we... Everywhere at the weekend. Oh, can I use your charger?

Where's a charger point? Hey, can I get a pint of the supercharger? And also speaking of chargers, can you plug in my phone behind the bars? Vaughan's that guy. Because his phone's lasting about two hours and that's it. Paige, what tech is your dad still hanging on to? He had an iPhone 4.

for many years. Wait, until when, recently? Yeah, until like early last year. What? Only because they took away the 3D, so he couldn't use it because there was no service. Yeah, because that was released before 4G was even a technology. Oh my God.

Yeah, so now he's upgraded to an iPhone 5 Mini. And I'm like... The Mini! I don't even remember it. Five Mini. How could he last year buy a five mini, like on Trade Me or something? Yep. It's exactly what he did.

But doesn't he look at like the new iPhone and think, well, if I can get 10 years out of that, it's bigger and better and worth it? No, he hates the big phones. Get it. That's good. That phone is so old. It's worth, Dad. Five-C. Don't they still do like ECs or something?

Yes. Or like even the new ear. Oh, my God. They do little, little. Wow. Amazing. I mean, good on you, Dad. Yeah.

That's crazy. Page. Thank you. Some messages in. The tech you're still hanging on to. Lots of people reporting that they still use their alarm clock radio, their digital alarm clock radio. Well, that's great because of the wake up to us every morning. It's fantastic. Wake up a Flash forne and Haley.

I still have a Walkman and tapes. I'll use that every now and then. A discman and CDs. This is all come back in fashion now. And all the GMZs are like, can I listen to a CD? It's vintage. Yeah, it's vintage. Ouch.

And we listen. to records on the record play. We've got all of them. I wanted the kids to know how music actually is not just coming out of the sky. Yeah. I guess you're right. If you're streaming it, it is just kind of

coming out of the sky. If you look close enough, like it's a beautiful day outside our studio. You can actually see. Ed Shearren. Right. There's an Ed Shearron song coming out of the sky. I was going to say you too. It's a beautiful day. And it just came into my head.

And that's actually thanks to the iPod because they fed it to us. They made it. They put that on our iPod. Yeah. They thumbed you. you too into our earholes? No, thank you. My husband still buys music from the iTunes store for his nano. Can you do that?

I thought they shut down the iTunes store. No, I bought them every now and then for, when I've tried to make a video and I needed to pay for a thing and I was using the wrong app, and then you had to buy the song and upload it from you. I know it was the whole thing. When you just go to convert YouTube song to MP3? I know, I know that now.

That's a legal activity that you're speaking of. Well, no, I'm just saying that's what people have done. That sort of heard. Yeah, that's what I've heard. Do you know that's why they started breaking down music videos with stupid interludes of nothing. Yeah, so you can't rip it. So you can't rip the song into an MP3?

Yeah, you know, you'll just be watching a music video and then it just breaks. The song kind of basically pauses. There'll be some dramatic scene in the music video. That's why they did that. Right. Yeah. Wilder. It didn't stop us downloading songs off LimeWire back in the day with like the radio

station screaming their ID in the middle of it. No, yeah. Yeah. 96, do, do, do. Yeah. Well, you wouldn't download a handbag. I would. I would if I could.

Depending on what kind of what kind of handbag. You wouldn't download a handgun. I wouldn't personally, but I think a lot of people would. Yeah, people are actually printing them out. Someone said I still play on my Game Boy Color. Rip out a weekend of Pokemon, red, blue, yellow and gold. Classic. Keep your techs coming in, 966.

What tech are you still using? We're talking about the old tech. You still rock it. Because my phone battery needs to be charged multiple times a day, but it's okay. It's still working. Yeah. Some messages in. I still got the original PlayStation 1

and occasionally I'll rip out a crash bandicoot and a Grand Turismo. Me! Even though I had both of these games on a PlayStation 4, there's something about the original. Yeah. I just taught my four-year-old Tetris

on my brick game, the old handheld brick games. Those are a bit posh. Tetris won't be beaten either because that just goes forever. I still sometimes play lemmings on the Sega. That was a great game. You can get lemmings on its worms on PlayStation.

Oh my God, worms. Worms is so good. Werns is a great game. Lemmings was great though too. It was, yeah. You know, sometimes it was just about getting that bricklaying lemming right on the very. Every lemming had a different job and you had to get all the lemmings through the hole at the end. And there was like, my favorite lemming to use, although very rarely was it a good one to use was the exploding lemming.

My favorite lemming is with strawberry with cream. Leamington. That's a lemington. Oh, gosh. Yeah. That's where they live. Portable DVD player for the kids on long car rides. No service, no issues.

Oh my God, that was so... Like, if your friend had a portable DVD player, that was so posh. Remember it, like, flipped up like that and you'd put the thing in? They were rich. I think it would have made me feel sick when I was a kid. Concentrating on a screen that close. It's like reading a book in a car. We still have a VHS player to watch the odd video.

Mostly family videos, but we've got a few old movies on VHS. Do you have the Lion King on VHS? I'd imagine that is an nostalgic sit-down to watch the... Original animated. All the classics. Somebody, I was recently wearing my headphones, an old pair of wired headphones, and some kids were like, man, those are cool.

Where'd you get those from? I was like, what? And it turns out wired headphones are back in fashion. Yeah. I just, I think having used them for so long and now having the freedom of Bluetooth, I will never ever go back. Nothing spoiled your day, like getting the cord, hooked.

Like trying to go for a run? And it yanked. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Horrible. Or you're running and they'd like pull out. Yeah. Yeah. Rendous.

Um, yeah, lots of people use an old tech. Let's make it work. The ZDM Podcast Network. Let's talk about this 24-year-old woman in Thailand. She's gone viral because she is in a relationship with a guy. Yeah. And also, at the same time, maintaining a relationship with his twin brother.

Dating, both of them at the same time. And they know about it. They know about it. It's all kosher. I'm assuming it's not at the same time. It's definitely not kosher. That has to be ticker. off by a rabbi. Yeah, I've misused the term kosher there. So, yeah, she's like doing a little

boyfriend reveal and then flip other shoulder. What looks like the same guy? Because they're identical twins. Why would you, and I always said this about people that cheat on someone that looks like. The one you were with. The one that you're with. Like, at least branch out. They know what flavor they like, you know? Yeah. Like, he's identical. It's weird. It's weird. It is weird. Like, I mean, this is a, this is a, this is, an extreme version of this. Yeah. But I wondered if we can take some calls and messages of have you dated

people within the same family? Oh, because quite often you hear like someone will go out with the brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They meet the older brother. And they're like, I had an older version. And then maybe they break up or they cheat and they get with the other one. Yeah, exactly. But again, you're getting

more of the same. Totally. And it doesn't have to be you know, at the same time like this woman in Thailand. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, it just feels a little bit like we're ruining Christmas, you know? Yeah. We're making things awkward. Yeah.

At family weddings. So dating within the same family. Dating within the same family. Can't say I've done it. Can we take it back a notch from dating and just hookups? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'll take hookups. Anybody in the room want to contribute?

Anybody. Not me. No, not me either. Anybody. It's running through my head. Definitely not me. I haven't done in the same family. Definitely not me.

No. Fletch? No. We took a while to say no. No? Siblings. Never? Haven't got your sibling wings?

No. Didn't get that scum bitch? Must have been a mutual friend of ours that we're all thinking of. Must have been. It's not present to speak for themselves. Masterbane. Anyway, 0800 dial ZM. Have you ever dated within the same family?

This, I've hooked up. We're going to take a guy. I reckon this is going to be scandalous. I reckon there'll be no shortage of stories. Yeah, I want to hear as well about the fallout. Yes, because sometimes there might have been. I mean, you'd imagine you'd be so gutted. Yeah.

If you're really into a guy and then your sister was seeing it. Well, I'd be very confused if I was dating someone and then they started dating my brother. Unless I knew that out the gate. That could be possible too if the person's by. Yeah, exactly. It's definitely possible. Okay, I'll wait a hundred. Diles at Em is the number. You can text her as well, 9-696.

Have you dated or hooked up within the same family? Have you dated within, dated or hooked up within the same family? There was a woman in Thailand, 24 years old, currently dating two twin brothers at the same time. I can confirm they do not engage the brothers. Yes, great. Okay, yeah. You know what I mean? We all thought and then no.

Yes, okay. But she's dating them both, like full relationship dating them both. This, I thought, to be honest, I thought it'd struggle. No. I thought we might get two, maybe three. No. It's wild. It is overwhelming the amount of text messages and calls that we've been receiving because...

I mean, the people like what they like, I guess. Well, yeah, you're already with one brother. The other brother's probably just as hot or hotter. I'm also, like, really bad at remembering names. This could be helpful. I've already met the family. Hey guys. Yeah, true.

Sarah, you dated within the same family. Yes, I did. Okay. So, break it down. How did it start? Who did you date first? So I dated a girl. Yes.

For a number of months and then I realized I was more interested in her little brother. Oh my God, that happened. The buy thing. The buy thing. Haley was like, I wonder if this had happened. Okay. And then how long were you with the brother for? Honestly, it didn't really work out for a long time, maybe six months. was with the brother.

But hang on. What did the sister say when you were like, hey, hon, this has been fun, but I think I've got to crush on your brother? She didn't take it well at all. No. That doesn't surprise me.

But did the brother know that you'd been with the sister? Yes. Okay. Yeah. That's weird. I think he quite liked it. Yeah. Yeah.

He's got a double win there. He's brought a lesbian. being back, you know, and men love to do that. And it's similar rivalry, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, wow.

Yeah, there was a bit of that. By the way, I just want to say long-time listener first-time call. Oh, I'll tell you what. Out the absolute gate with that story is a long-time listener, first-time caller. Yeah, hell of a first submission for the show. So good.

Sarah, thank you. Where are we at now, Sarah, in the dating world? I've been married for 23 years. Oh, wow. To a man. a historical. Does he have a sister? He's got two, actually.

Oh, yeah. You keep his wandering eyes. We heard that time. We did. Sarah, thank you. Anonymous, joins us. Anonymous. When did you date within the same family?

Hey, how are you guys? Super good. How are you? I'm good. So, yeah, I've been with two brothers. First son was a year and a half, and that didn't work out. And the sort of shoulder to cry on

the younger brother. What? And then how long were you with the younger brother? Six years in counting. Oh, I go down with mum. Because I reckon their mum's not going to like that. No, definitely not. Right.

So do you go to family Christmas? No. No, I didn't think so. And how are the brothers with each other? There is no relationship. Oh, wow. Yeah. Really really lit a stick of T&T, didn't you?

But I mean, you're still with the brother. So, I mean, you've got to. You're clearly like have a successful relationship. Yeah. Well, it was, I don't want to put the blame on anyone, but it was, I didn't make him do it. He made his choices and he wanted to be with me. So, I mean, it is what it was. It's hard when you're as hot as us, as well, A anonymous.

It's like, man. Like, you know, who might just say that you can't love me? Of course you do. Yeah, yeah, that's true, I guess. Look at all. They are exact opposite. Really? Oh, really?

What, in the bedroom, in the boudoir? All around. All round. All round. All round. Okay. Made a giggle. Wow. Okay. Anonymous. Thank you.

Karen, that's a very popular Girls book trope. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Oh, 100. And joins us. Ang, good morning. This was your mum that dated

within the same family. Yeah, yeah. She used to go out with my uncle for about a year or so. Yes. And then they had a bad car crash, which she was the driver of. when they were both the twins were in the car.

Right. She was a twin brother. Yeah. And she felt bad. So she nursed my dad back to house. And now they have been married for 40. How old am I? 43 years.

Wow. Oh my God. So she's like, I'm so sorry. And oh, you're actually, that's quite nice cuddles. Actually, it's quite nice. I'm just doing this as your sister-in-law jokes. Was your dad more badly hurt in the car accident than his brother? Yes.

Yeah, very much, though. Oh, okay. And so how are the brothers now? with each other. They are still best buddies. They didn't, it's really weird. The mum could never understand why my grandmother didn't like her, but I think that has something to do with it.

Yeah, I reckon probably do. Yeah, I'd say so. But now the brothers are all good. But there's kind of a little joke about how, because it was, I was conceived not long after, and they got married. And they're the jokes that I look more like the uncle than my daddy. Blurry. Oh, wow.

Have you done an ancestry.com test, or are we just leaving out of a joke? identical twins. The DNA's exactly the same. Oh, so we'll never know! Wait, you can never know even if you do like a really expensive test? No, they have the exact same DNA. DNA. Yeah.

Oh, my God. No, I thought there'd be some difference like, you know, in a test. If they were normal twins. Yeah. That would be different. But identical twins split from the same thing, right? Yeah. It's one of the splits.

So you'll never know who your dad is. Yeah, pretty much. You know. You know. You know, but she looks like the uncle. I look more like the uncle and more like his family. But your identical twin, they're identical. I know.

I know. They just do different expressions and stuff like that, and apparently I do those. Yeah. Oh my God, Anne. This is the most juiciest phodent topic we've done for a long time. My mother's terrified. Oh, my God. I'm a family with a spicy story.

So good. Love it. And, thank you. message is into finish. My ex cheated on me so I slept with her sister. That feels healthy. She found out, and then she found out that I'd also been sending

spicy snaps to her mum. Oh, come on. The mom was packing the most. What does that mean? Maybe she had nice boobies. Oh, I see, yeah, yeah. Mom might have been the bus there. Do you say that?

I don't think, I don't say. No, you'd say a dad was packing. Yeah, dad's packer. Yeah, you wouldn't say a mom. She's, maybe don't. She's got nice boobies. Although we don't have any other terms for it. Okay.

Dated the younger brother first. He was living with his older brother. Following year, I met the older brother, started dating the older one. Fast forward a few years. We've all lived together for a while. Younger one had a girlfriend. She hated that I lived there with both of them. Me and the older brother have been together 10 years now.

I'm married with three children. This is the thing with this topic is like, I have to draw these like trees in my head, you know, like connecting dots. Yes. The son of a lady I know is currently dating two sisters. They're both oddly happy with the arrangement. Side note, indoor gardening occurs separately. So, you know, there's no.

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, none of that. Thank you. Anonymous, please. I had a one-night stand with a brother and then had another one-night stand with his brother. And then now I'm with the oldest brother. So that's a three, that's a three-peat. She did all three brothers.

She did all three brothers. All three. He's a fourth. You'd say that the third brother, is the best then. Gotta catch him all. Brothers. The brothers.

An amalgamation of two legendary jingles. Oh, gosh. The ZN Podcast Network. Play Z-N's flesh, born and Haley. ZM presents Manuka Fuel's Symphony Festival

back for 2026. Yes, Auckland Domain, Manuka Fuel, Symphony Festival, the 21st of March tickets are on sale now. Faithless, full band, Peking Duck, shapeshifter, hot tub time machine,

Kaylee Bell, huge list. And an incredible show, as always. Yeah, added today, Cassie Henderson. She's in Stuits, hey, Cass. Hey. How are you? I'm good. Have you done one of these before?

A symphony. No, this is my first time. Have you been, no, as a punter? Yeah, I've been as a punter. As a punter. As a punter. It's a terrible word, isn't it? Yeah, that is.

I've been a couple of times and I've loved it absolutely loved it so it's gonna be pretty crazy to be out there Have you had a little bit of a rest Because you had such a major year last year Yeah I had a no phone week on a beach Wow Like no phone no tech

Just read my book for a week Oh my god that made me feel anxious Yeah I was at least want to check it at night But it was kind of great Like I because obviously I spent a lot of stuff on social media So I just scheduled out a week And then I didn't look at any comments I didn't read anything

How did you feel validated internally and how did you receive your dopamine? No, I was hollow as a person. It was great. But have you felt such a huge change since you were on the voice? Which, like, I'm genuinely devastated and quite shocked that you didn't win.

I think you deserved it. You just were so incredible the whole show and all of your amazing covers that you're now doing live. Have you noticed a huge jumper? Yeah, I mean, totally. It's been kind of, it's crazy to watch because I think I was so lucky

I got to do some really, really cool songs and like teenage dirtbag was one of my favorite songs on the show and it's been really resonating with people, obviously, because it's an epic song. It's a great song. Did you know that there is a Christmas dirt bag? No.

By Wheatiss? Yeah. Wow. What? The only... So, Weedis is... Find this. Christmas and I'm a Christmas dirt bag.

Yes, so, Weetus, I was listening to a bit of Weiss. I think because you were just everywhere on socials with that amazing cover you did. And then I was like, oh yeah, I've ever listened to that for ages. Weidest is number one song, obviously Teenage Dirtbag. The number two song is Christmas dirtbag. Which is, I'm assuming, like it, but it's for Christmas. I actually just have to stop.

I mean watching this on YouTube premium, and of course, thanks to the Christensen family for adding into their family. I don't know if you know this, Casey, but Vaughn couldn't afford YouTube premium because of his tough year last year. And the Christensen's reached out. Yes, we've got a spare spot, so I don't know I have to thank them rather than sit through or whatever commercial. They've got to have a free plug. So just fast forwarded about.

How far. Well, no, I want to see the start of the song to see if they change. No, well. That's like a Christmas. thing. You're going to have to do this. This Christmas. Shut up.

I don't like this. The whole thing's changed. It's all Christmas. It's all Christmas. Oh yeah, I love this. Casey's doing it. Just sitting to know who I am? I'm so uncomfortable.

I'm so uncomfortable. Christmas. Wow. We need to add this to our playlist when we start playing those terrible Christmas songs because this is one I like. Why have I never heard this in the shops? Yeah.

Why is it never playing the shops over Christmas? I didn't know it existed. I didn't know it was just because I went looking on, you know, to listen to teenage dewbag. This is great. And it was great. And it was great. Did they do it though?

Or is this someone else? No, it's them. It's on their official, they even made an official music video. It follows a dog around that seems to be bothering everybody. A cartoon. When did they do that?

this in like the 2000 well it's had 755,000 views and it was uploaded two years ago oh wow I don't think people know about this I think we should speak about it more I'm gonna make a note I'm gonna make a light on this Christmas I'll make a note in the diary in late November now there's a big

peak you know the YouTube we walk up extraordinary you cast people watch the most yep oh the girl bit could Santa Claus really care of bell I've got two

Oh, I hate it. After show party at C. I'm so uncomfortable. I'm just a Christmas dirt bag. Oh, it's Santa. It's like a demon. Oh, God. Porns like, mousing the words are ready.

Porns like, horns out. Worns out. What they're mouthing in the words. Okay, do you know what? And horror. You're going to have another big year because you're doing symphony, but you've got to map it all out. So now you know, pre-Christmas,

got to get in the studio, you've got to do your Christmas dirt back cover. Yeah, it's very important. You've got to, yeah, got to tick that off. Is there, I mean, I know you write your own music and we'll come back to that, but is there another song that's like on your radar? Because your good luck, babe's amazing. Like you just...

To cover? Yeah. Honestly, no. I feel like I've really done my dash with covers, but with symphony, I'm doing, how deep is your love? Which I'm really excited for. Yeah, okay, he's the be... Yeah, so that's going to be...

I'm doing that... So I don't know what I'm going to do in that bit, but... And then it's... What about... new music? Are you riding at the moment? Are you creatively after your week off the phone? Are you creatively all the juices flowing? Yeah, no, it's

been really good. I've actually, I'm in the studio at the moment working on the Blue Chapter. So the final EP, which I'm very excited about. But yeah, lots of new music coming. Yeah. Christmas dirtbag. Christmas dirtbag is also going to be on the well. Yeah, I reckon we should

debut. And good luck Santa. Good luck Santa. Yeah, good. I think we should debut but in studio, you're absolutely welcome to come and debut that when you do that. But added to the Manukifil Symphony Festival lineup, which is happening at the Auckland Domain, the 21st of March. Tickets are on sale now. Cassie Henderson, thank you so much. Thank you.

Thanks for having me, guys. The Z&Pod and Haley, silly little pole. It's so silly, silly, silly, silly, that the silly little pole. Silly little pole is, would you quit your job if your annual leave request was rejected? I mean, ballsy, because you've got to have another job to go to. No. Have a bit of money as a, you know, a bit of a cushion. No.

But I suppose if what you were going for was something really important, you know, like your parents' 50th anniversary and overseas or something, you wanted to do something major. You'd probably be, if it had pushed you to the point of quitting over that, you were probably looking to leave anyway, right? Yeah, and we're pretty lucky here. Like, we plan our holiday so far in advance because, you know, they need to know. Yeah, and we do them together.

And they're good with that. But then you talk to some friends, and their workplaces, it's like impossible for them to get leave. Like, they're so vital or they don't have enough staff that, you know, they're like, oh, no. And it's like, no, you illegally allowed them. I know. This is going to sound very privileged. But over Christmas, I said to my best friend when she came up for New Year's, I was like, what are you going to do with the rest of your break? She's like, babes, I'm popping back and going back to work.

I was like, what do you mean? And it was just like, well, no, denied. Like everyone else took the leave and I was late and so there you go. That's the other thing. If you don't get in and everyone else gets like school holidays, yeah, it's the race for the good days. Well, 65% of people said no, but 35% of people said they would quit their job if their annual leave request was rejected. And Grayson actually did. Oh, wow.

My boss said I wouldn't be allowed to go to my footy Mad Monday celebrations. Gave my notice two weeks before the grand final and luckily we made it and won and I got to go to the Mad Monday. Got paid out my leave on Tuesday while I was still partying. You'll be familiar that Monday's a full day after Tuesday. Still partying and used it to buy a ticket to Bali to join some mates who were going and continue to celebrate over there for another six days. What a time. Oh, amazing.

And then what, just came back and found a job? I guess so. Yeah. And you have covered. Yeah. Steph said yes, but my foot's been out the door for a while now and this would give me the reason to leave. I'm only there for the people I work with literally best team ever.

But my annual leave got to prove today, so I guess I'm not leaving yet. Lottie, but I may then be conveniently sick and still be off anyway. So I'm not quitting, but oopsie days. It turns out I'm sick. Yeah, it's a bit suspicious though when you're sick exactly the days you wanted off that were denied. Yeah. It's a little iffy.

Tash says, Mama's got a mortgage. That ain't paying itself, so I can't afford to quit. Yeah. Asia, yes, but that's only because I'm in the position where I don't need to be working. So if it doesn't suit my lifestyle, then it doesn't suit me. Oh, what? Yeah, okay.

More on this position, please. Lucky. Anonymous, please. This was the final straw in a toxic work environment that finally made me quit. I am now glad I did living my best life as a self-employed creative. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I'm quite like that.

Sometimes you just need a little nudge. Elsa said, the trip's booked. See you. So, you know, if that's what it takes She's just going to quit the job I told my boss, if he ever rejected my birthday leave, I'd quit And he'd only have himself to blame Wow.

Wow, playing hardball. Yeah. And Jamie, I resigned for a two-week trip to Europe. Re-applied for my job, they couldn't find anyone to replace me so they rehired me and gave me my leave. That feels quite powerful. That feels good. That feels real good.

Like, just like give them the leave in the first place. Like, come on. Yeah. Hey guys, apparently being the company's most successful podcast isn't enough. They want us to tell people to tell more of their friends. So people are clearly liking it, but we have to tell them to tell others to like it. I would concentrate more on the shitter podcast that the company makes. Yeah, same.

You know, the real losers out there. Same. No, no, no, we'll just... Yeah. Maybe we won't say nice. Maybe we should even encourage people to listen to other podcasts that the company makes. Oh, no, but only after ours. Yeah, nah, no, don't do that.

And not more than ours. Give us a sexy little review, though. ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley.