ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - June 24th 2025

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

Gen Z are bringing this icon back 10 times more likely to exercise with a fitness tracker SLP - Be honest, do you pick your nose? Woman sick of restaurants Top 6 - Things you can do with that screen time When were you caught copying Vaughan's deleted his addictive game Do we want BOB hair back Travel chat What made you cry recently Fact of the day Hayley electrocuted herselfSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

From the ZM Podcast Network. This is Flesh, Vaughan and Hayley's Big Pod. Thanks to Animates, making happy happen for pets. ZM's Flesh, Vaughan and Hayley. Thank you, Bryn. Good morning. Welcome to the show Flesh, Vaughan and Hayley. Well, that was all good news. It was all good news.

It was all positive, all positive good stuff. What a great day to laugh out louder with friends, you know, and just sort of close the door a little bit. Yeah. For a release, we can't turn a blind eye. I went and got a COVID jab and a flu jab yesterday. One in each arm. Oh yeah.

Both on the same day. Both arms are a little bit sore today, but that's okay. Had a big chat to the pharmacist who did it all about the current situation of the world. Oh yeah. Well I was doing that thing where you wait around to see if you're gonna have any reactions to it or faint or anything. Yeah yeah. He yeah yeah we broke it down. I really think him and I should be put in charge and we'll sort this out. You're yeah right bring pace to the Middle East. Just leave everybody to their own devices, I reckon. The top six as well are quite a concerning study. Yeah.

Students nowadays, by the end of their lives, will spend 25 years on screen time. That is grim, eh? Yeah. That really slaps you in the face. But if you get... So with 25 years currently, let's say you live to...

Wait, does that include like Netflix? It's when you get your screen time report. Okay. If it's like over six hours a day, that's a quarter of the day that you've spent on your phone. Yeah. And if you live to 100, okay, that's 75 years. That's a quarter of your life.

I reckon though, I reckon though, by the time students now are older, the screens will just be in their eyes. So it's not gonna matter. What do you mean, that's already happening? I did a gig with a comedian and he had the screen in his glasses. And I was like, so you're just always on. He's like, yeah, I get a message

that just pops in front of my eyes. I'm like, ah! No, that's no good. That's no good. Well, the top six are dealing with the screen time yeah the top six things you could do with that screen time 25 years at your sleeve live yeah what would you do live laugh on my screen yeah I'd probably do a bit of loving yep do you know what I mean? I want some swimming play ZM's Flashborn and Hayley.

Well I never had a Blackberry. Oh no you are a yuppie if you had one of those. Oh you're big yuppie. What about your mum was a real estate agent she must have had a Blackberry. No because she'd retired by the time that Fancy Phones came out. Oh right. So she was on a Nokia bloody snake phone you know. Oh yeah yeah yeah and a pager. And a pager. Right Pager, right, okay. What does she need a pager for? Well, before messages, it was all paging. You had to call up and say, mom.

Did she have a car phone? No, no car phones. Because that screamed real estate agent in the late 90s, early 2000s. Stock agent, too. Rurally, it was always a stock agent. They had a massive aerial on the back of their car and the phone sat in the middle, but then.

Yeah, but I had a fake blackberry. They were big in America. I remember everyone in business or every celebrity had one. It's a great movie. That blackberry film. Oh, it rules. So good about the sort of creation of it and then the fall as soon as Apple came in and went... Well, yeah, the Apple released the iPhone and everyone was like,

what, we don't need buttons? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they were trying to be like, no, buttons are cool. And you're like, buttons aren't cool anymore, bro. Well, apparently Gen Z are looking to embrace like a dumber phone. Buttons are back. But I just think it's that it's the same reason

we tried to do retro things in the 90s. Or like, you know, it's just that thing you look back and there's a bit of nostalgia and a bit of rose tinted just before your time. I want to, oh, I want that. It's the same reason you see some people using city walkmans now. What? Yeah.

Who? I haven't seen anybody. You're kidding. It's the same as us going home and putting on a record and being like, this feels so cool and kitsch. You know what I mean? And then it ends and you're like, I'm going to change it. I'm going to put it on Spotify.

Yeah, I know. You're like, wait, we listen to the whole album? Yeah. I mean, the irony of this being a TikTok led trend isn't lost on me. They're like, we're in blessing Dumfins and we're posting about it on Sash and Meeja. Yeah, how are you posting about it on your other smartphone? Yeah. Oh yeah, that's for the look. Yeah. And apparently using digital cameras again, when the cameras aren't as good as what a modern smartphone has.

No, like the latest iPhone camera is insane. Yeah, I know, but it's not about quality, it's vibrate. Oh yeah. You gotta get the vibes. Cause my daughters have talked about the Y2K aesthetic. I know, I know. And I'm like, you shut your mouth. Wow.

It's like how we wore flares in the 90s. Yeah, it was only five years ago, calm down. What's the border, it's got years here.. Calm down. It was more than 25 years ago. It was 25 years ago. I know. I know. But apparently. Apparently.

I'm not against the whole dumb phone thing. Like we were just saying the screen time. I am. I love Instagram. Man, I was craving it yesterday. You would, you'll never give it up. I mean that's like when you need maps and stuff you're like you that's what you're rules having a smartphone. Oh maps, camera, calculator, access to my banking. Take a photo.

Dumb Googling or chat GPTing, dumb questions. Dumb questions. Yeah. Like that. The moment you're like what was the name? Done, answer it. Yeah. No I'm never giving it up. It's our privilege to live in the future. And we should be embracing all of it. 11 past 6 next on the show. Why having a smartwatch might be good. Well, we've got that. Speaking of another device. God!

Look up. Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughan and Hayley. Winter. It's hard to exercise. It is. I didn't use to that. A lot of people just wake up and go, it's just good, I'm just nice. Sleep and you didn't go use to that, it's too cold? No, it's not that it was,

yeah, it was just that sort of lazy feeling of, oh, I just want to go home and sort of shut the door and it was raining and then you're like, oh, get up and go for a walk, as if. Well, new research has been done, fitness trackers, and you have an Apple watch. I do, we all do. They-

We track each other on them. Fitness trackers can make you 10 times more likely to exercise. Yeah, for sure. This is out of a UK study. Do you know the worst thing that Apple did though is letting you, what's that thing where you can skip days now?

Rest days? Rest days. Yeah, so you can do a rest day. Rest days are important. I know they are, but do you know everybody was after their Apple Watch streaks? I know. But now a rest day will let you complete the streak. Yeah, I know.

So I think there was a day the other day, because I have a daily goal of, I don't know what it is, and I was like, there was like 200 left. And I was like, rest day. Really? Rest day, I was like, I cannot be bothered. I, my Apple Watch broke, remember. And then, and so I done, I done like two months without one. And for sure, then you're suddenly like, you don't,

but you'll keep going to the gym, but you won't move as much. Right. Like you'll do your gym and then you're like, cool, and then you don't think about like, I'll keep maybe walking or moving. So this is what this UK study found that exercises using smartwatches, doesn't need to be an Apple watch,

could be a Garmin fish finder. Golf watch. A golf watch, Samsung, there's plenty out there. They found that exercises using smartwatches were 10 times more likely to start a program, seven times more likely to stick with it. And I honestly swear by it, like I've, with my Apple Watch,

I've closed my rings like forever. And it does make you... It's just accountable. Yeah, and you realize... And it's a game. And also you realize on days when you don't gym, how little you move. Like literally nothing.

Like literally nothing. And we finish our day and then kind of go about a second day. Whereas if you were in office work at nine to five, you have very easily, you wake up, you get ready for work, you go to work, you sit all day at five o'clock. And as you say, it's winter. Yeah.

What are you telling me? You're gonna go to the gym or you're just gonna go home? Yeah. So they followed people through this study over six months as well. So that's where they're getting those figures from, the people that didn't have a smartwatch. So weren't accountable to themselves. Yeah, amazing, amazing study though. I like them. They're not pretty. I saw someone the other day that had a nice time piece on, you know, and I just thought, God, it would be nice as a fashion lover to have a nice time piece.

Not this rubbery. Doesn't tell you when you've got a message on Instagram, does it? Or a WhatsApp group chat. It would be nice to get a nice time piece that also connects to Instagram and Snapchat. Right, okay. That's all I want. Play. ZM. Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.

Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. It is so silly, silly, silly that the silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole. Silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole. Silly little pole is do you still pick your nose, be honest. Yeah, who doesn't love a dig? You gotta have a dig around, don't you? I've got airplane nose, you know, when it gets all dry and then you start picking it, and then you start picking a bit more and it gets a bit scabby and then you can't stop, it's so dry.

Getting in, getting in, getting in, getting in. Wow, we all do. And so do 91% of our responders. Yeah, good. Thank you for being honest. Thank you for being honest. Yeah. 9% said they don't, but you know. What do you do, blow it?

What, like a baby? Yeah, but what if it's a hard ball, but it's stuck? You gotta get the ball in there. Oh, I love it. Yeah, have a peck. Sometimes it's good to have a pick aye. Yeah well that's what Edward says our first response he said, feels so good after having a hoon. Yeah. Yeah have a hoon out there. Do you have a favourite finger to pick your

nose with? I go I start with a thumb. I start with a thumb too. Then I go middle finger. You go with a thumb or maybe for like a little there. Inside but then middle. Yeah sort that's an entry level. I'll go little. Little gets further up. I can get further up with it. You must have a really tiny nostril. You've got a tight little nosey. Pretty says, I mean who doesn't that 4% who said no a filthy little liar's got

up to 9% pretty. Yeah I know. More liars, we found more pretty. Yeah. Honestly it's something I put the most effort into. Love a good scrounge around says Danielle. Yeah scrounge around. That's a great word for getting up in that nozzle and having a go. Kate says because it's there it's got to be picked.

Yeah. It feels so good especially when you get a good wall scrape. Yeah yeah yeah that's what the thumb is good for. Yeah and you get like a long string on it, you pull it and it drags. Yeah dragging it from further back. That's good stuff. It's good stuff. Some of life's simple pleasures in these hard times. Yeah exactly. Let's enjoy picking our nose in these final days of life. Leisha said World War 3 hasn't happened yet. Which certainly feels like it doesn't it? Just saying I'm too old to be drafted. That is somewhat of a relief.

I'll stay here and do the farm stuff. Yeah you do that babe. I'll have to grow the wheat and the grain so that the boys in the front line can have their porridge. I'll get pregnant. That's what I'll do. Oh my god same that's perfect. We'd be great at home. We'd be making pantyhose parachutes for the lads. Yeah, that's perfect. Having a gossip. Sometimes blowing it doesn't get rid of that annoying slightly flappy booger.

Also a drive for a job. Flappy, flappy booger. Flappy booger. Also a drive for a job. The number of people who really get amongst the boogers while they're driving is incredible. Windows may have a tint, but your windscreen is fully transparent, says Lesha.

Oh yeah, truck drivers see down, don't they? They see a lot. Yeah. No shame, says Jessie. It's so satisfying and I'll never stop. Yeah, good. Only in private. Oh, okay.

Says Tripty. And why not? Eliminate anything that annoys my peace. Brooke says there's no better cleaning method. We haven't had a single respondee from someone who doesn't. Yeah. Carl, block one nostril and blow. That's how I clear mine.

That won't get rid of a- That won't get rid of a crusty bug though. No, we love a snot rocket. Yeah, that'll eliminate the wet stuff. The wet stuff. Yeah. Hailey and I did a lot of snot rockets when we were walking up Mount Vak in Wellington.

That's what you would have heard of me. And then just two of us. Yeah, that's one of the last two ones. Well, we didn't take tissues, did we? We had to. No tissues and it was a cold, nice, crisp day. Because it's annoying, I don't see a problem as long as you're not sticking boogers everywhere

or eating them. So I don't eat them. Fair call. But we do all know what it tastes like. Yeah. 100%. You remember it. You remember it.

Yeah. Slightly salty. Salty. Yeah. Not unpleasant. You know what it tastes like. Yeah. 100%. You remember it. You remember it. Yeah. Slightly salty. Salty. Yeah. Not unpleasant. You know what I mean? Not unpleasant. Maybe like a weak chicken stock.

Why did you say that? You have utterly nailed it though. Yeah. He's right. It's not the saltiness of stock but it's not a strong flavour. I'm right though, aren't I? It's a weak chicken stock.

Made from one of those oxo cubes. Oxo chicken stock. But a little bit too much water. Yeah. Far out. He's absolutely landed on that. He's nailed it. Well, to recap, 91% of people when we asked, do you pick your nose said, yes, we sure do.

Play ZM's Fleshborne and Haley. Play ZM's Fleshborne and Haley. There's a woman who posted on a online forum, I will say it's for moms, moms Nat. She said second time this week eating out at restaurants. One was a, I added at restaurants just for clarity. Second time this week eating out, one was a birthday celebration, the other was for Father's Day, $135 both times. I'll say it, the food was worse than you make at home. I just don't want to go out anymore unless it's somewhere really good, which is tricky when it's special occasions.

Basically saying, I'm tired of eating out at restaurants. How privileged. Very much. I'll probably get it. But the moment you say, I can make it better at home. This is the problem with going out for a steak. And I don't want to toot my own trumpet, but But beepity beepity whoop

It's actually toot your own horn. No, I can't make a horn. I thought I wanted to make the toot me trumpet. Okay, I make the horn. I don't want to blow my own horn. Toot my own trumpet. Yeah, okay. Blow my own horn. But I have, you pay a fortune for a steak out and it's just not as good as what you

have at home. Also just not. So a lot of the moms on this website, they start jamming in being like, all the menus are the same. And I don't, I mean, we've got lovely restaurants available to us in New Zealand. We're very lucky. Yeah. But definitely if you're just like hitting up a restaurant or a pub,

it's the same menu. I mean, pretty much. And often, it's the same sort of disappointing burger. Yeah. The same sort of fish and chips. And as you say, you're paying 40 bucks for this. Now we're drinking. Yeah.

So we're chucking a 20 on that. But no one's holding a gun to this woman's head. Oh no, no, no. And saying, you have to come out. Is she worried about missing out? Is it that FOMO? Maybe. No, I think she's just saying,

like, God, we put a lot of money and effort into eating out at restaurants all the time. Cause you know what, I had a Lads Weekend at the weekend. We didn't go out for a meal once. Didn't you? No, we ate. That's a recession indicator. That's a recession indicator.

Recession indicator. Okay, you had steak. I cooked No, we ate. It's a recession indicator. That's a recession indicator. Recession indicator. Okay, you had steak. I cooked steak and chicken wings. We had a lads meal. And then on Saturday, I cooked us a big breakfast. And then that night, we pretty much just ate an ungodly amount of cheese. And then the leftovers from the night before.

And then the next morning, we just literally toasted an entire loaf of Vogels. And I got out all of our spreads and condiments. And we spent an hour and a bit talking about all the spreads and condiments. That's cute. It was rad. We didn't go out for a meal once. That's just a bunch of dads that have a lot of kids and families.

Yeah. Yeah. Whereas I over the weekend went out for every meal and spent hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars. Now some of the meals were great, but for sure some of them were like, ugh, yeah. All right. That was food and that is in my stomach.

Could it compare with sitting around with jams and marmalades? I mean. I don't know about that. That's some people's idea of a great meal had with friends. Now I'm saying when the three of us sit at the chef's table at Fifth Street,

it'll make a special. It's a different experience. It's a different experience. It's a different experience. But. Entirely different experience. I love a different experience. But entirely different experience. I like those food experiences but I get what she's saying. You go and it's...

Yeah. Like, especially when you have a run of them, where you go like, you've had a couple of restaurants in a week and you're like, none of them whelmed me. Nah. You know? Is that sad when the food stops whelming you? I'm not over or under. And the only thing whelmed is your bank.

Your bank account. My bank is heavily whelmed. Play ZM's Fleshborne and Haley. Fighting from the Fleshborne and Haley group chat. This is the top six. Yeah, can I live? Now, while these two look to rebook their European flights because of their closed airspace over the Middle East,

I've been working hard to bring you a top sir. I'm very privileged. I think it's a really interesting thing we should talk about though, because lots of people will be saved up and be looking to go to Europe for a European summit to catch up with people, maybe even moving there, and their flights are going to be massively affected. So For a European summit, a catch up with people, maybe even moving there and their flights are gonna be massively affected.

So you guys come up with a solution and book yours so that they don't all disappear and then we can tell everybody else the solution. Yeah, great idea, okay. But I am here to deliver you a top six about students and the fact that students now are likely to spend 25 years on their phones if screen habits don't change. Now is that confronting for a man that has two teenagers?

Yeah, I am constantly saying get off that screen. But then, hypocritically, spend some seven hours a day on my own screen. Yeah. So, I guess do as I say, not as I do. Yeah, we watched a movie yesterday and we weren't allowed to have our phones and I missed it. I know that was hard wasn't it? Yeah. Even just knowing that it was turned off in one of those bags that they give. Yeah. We had to put our phones in one of those bags that some of the schools are using. The neoprene, can't get inrene, yeah, some concerts as well use them.

I was mid chat with someone. Yeah. Aw. So the figures are based on the waking day of 16 hours and 72 years of smartphone used from the age 11 to 83. Whoa. They tracked the screen time of 1300 secondary school pupils, 200 university students and

1300 people at some form of education. You book those flights. No, I don't want this window to time out. I feel paralysed. Right. Well, they said that the phone use is problematic. 70% of students believe their academic performance was impacted by their phone use. Hell yeah.

So they can self admit. That's crazy. Also, I worry about the dopamine addiction that we're breeding in young people. Yeah, it's quick hits of dopamine. For me, that's what it is, it's those little hits. It's bad enough for adults. I know. It's bad enough for adults.

But at least we know other ways of getting dopamine hits. At least we had a tiny bit of time. Where we did it the other way. Yeah, yeah. Bananas, walk beside the the stream and some sunshine. Yeah. I know the top six things you could do with 25 years of screen time. Number five, number six on the list. Number six, do five heavy doctorates. I looked up if you're going to do a heavy doctorate, how long it would take. Five years. So five times five is 25. So in those five

years, 25 years of screen time, you could do five PhDs. I don't want to though. That's okay, just do one or two. I'm not smart enough, I couldn't even think of a topic for one PhD. Just rather go on my phone for 25 years to be honest. Same, cause a man needs some good beans on there. You can do a PhD on anything. Like you do a PhD on the ongoing,

the ongoing effects of using a throat spray just because you kind of like the taste and it makes your breath smell fresher. I actually know a subject I could study on that. Vaughan Smith. Yeah, exactly, I could do it. I just have to make it long and particularly wordy. Number five on the list of the top six things

you could do with 25 years screen time. Be an apprentice in all the trades. Hell yeah. You could do all the trades. You could be a jack of all trades. Then you could finally renovate your house and only be angry when you don't show up, when you said you'd be there at nine.

And you've got another job. And then when you say how much it's gonna cost, you just angry yourself being like, how much? How much am I charging an hour? What? For me? Number four on the list of the top six things you could do with 25 years screen time, you could finish Red Dead Redemption 2.

That's a video game, so technically screen time. Okay. But slightly more productive because you're a cowboy. Number three on the list of the top six things you could do with that screen time, learn an instrument to a professional level. Yeah. To like concert professional level.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That amount of time invested in an instrument. Number two on the list of the top six things you could do with 25 years screen time. Raise a baby to absolute full adulthood to the point where they could then start to raise a baby to full potential adulthood. But they're gonna be on their phone

so they might not meet someone. Yeah, exactly. Or they'll meet someone on their phone. But they'll never get off their phone. Yeah. They won't know how to talk to them though. Long enough to make love, to make the baby. Number one on the list of the top six things

you could do with 25 year screen time, sleep. Love that. Yum yum yum, sleep sleep sleep. We want to know now when you were caught copying. Copycat. And it's even better when you were caught copying as an adult. Because I mean we all kind of you know We copy and paste it and I mean now you just chat GPT everything

I'm assuming at school when it comes to homework and assignments Change a few words. Yeah, they do have those things that work that can work out how You know they put it into a program and it's like yeah, the chances are this is generated by I've been I've been also hearing A few stories of this happening at people's workplaces now with chat GPT, because people are just doing outsourcing all of this work to AI and they're getting caught, they're getting called out on it. Cause it's not how people speak or especially not how that person would ever speak and they're like, dude, this is obviously isn't your work.

Do you, like, I remember, cause something, I had my music on shuffle the other day and the song came on, I was like, that's right. And there were these lyrics and I just took the lyrics and put them into an essay for my English essay. And I just straight up copied it. Cause it was this weird band that they would have never known and I got excellence. What song was that?

You didn't get caught out. Do you know the band Say Anything? It was kind of an emo band back in the day but not very underground. I just took one of their songs and put it into an essay. This is quite a public calling out of some plagiarism. The CEO of Ea India who of course had that terrible crash. Really not a great month. A few weeks ago, the CEO, who's actually a New Zealand guy, came out with a video message.

Now that kind of video message apparently very closely resembles what the head of American Airlines said after their plane crashed a month earlier. Like almost exactly. That's almost like exactly. Word for word. Like and everyone's like, dude, like you'd even changed some words.

In the circumstances as well, like you've gotta put a little bit of, you gotta be seemingly putting in some effort and some thought into these words. Well, yeah, when 200 and, wait, how many people died? I think you've gotta put some thought in. Yeah. Well, yeah, when 200 and, wait, how many people died? Mm-hmm. I think you've got to put some thought in.

Yeah. That's my general. I mean, I don't know if he used chat GPT or, maybe he got someone to, you know, like an assistant to write it for him. Yeah, just have a speech writer and the assistant's just like, oh, got no time for this, I'll just kind of use this one.

You're not thinking. Someone said I got caught, I got caught copying a kid in year two spelling, but unfortunately he spelled ov. Yeah. O-F-O-V. Yeah, right. Jokes on me.

I mean, ov, so. Ov. Ov. Well, this is what we want to ask this morning. We want to take some calls. 0800 DALZATM. You can text her 9696. Would you accept copying like outfit copying?

You know what I mean? Like when someone, you know what I mean? Like copying someone's entire look or like their like. No, I don't think that. You want it like a cheating copy. I don't know, just like copying someone else's, if you were a designer and you copied someone else's, like this happens a lot.

Not just someone dressing the same as someone else. If you were a designer and you copied someone else's, this happens a lot. Not just someone dressing the same as someone else. If you were like doing, if you did like a design degree or something and you're like, that is mine. Or art, if you were an artist. Yes, well that happens all the time. But you do hear about people who get real shitty with their friends because they like steal their look. Like someone's trying a new look and then they're like,

oh my God, that's great. And then they turn up with the exact same thing. Like a fletch started turning up to work with a beanie. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, he doesn't wear, we're actually signed a treaty. We're not allowed to. Oh really? Yeah.

Okay. And he's not allowed to wear a blue, flexy fit hat. Yeah. And he's never allowed to grow a beard. Yeah. I had no idea of this treaty. They won't tell us apart. Yeah.

But when have you been caught adult cheating? Maybe you were caught cheating at work. I don't know, ripping off something. Yeah. 0800 dials at M, you can text through 9696. Copying. Copying. Or maybe there's a few stories of you were busted using an AI like the system. Somebody actually said they were told their workplace actively encourages them to use copilot for everything.

Oh yeah. What is copilot? Is that like a... I think it's the AI assistant for... of their workplace actively encourages them to use Copilot for everything. Oh yeah. What is Copilot? Is that like a chit chat? I think it's the AI assistant for, is it the assistant for Office? Yeah. Microsoft Copilot, AI,

I didn't know they were rocking their own, I mean of course they were, that's Microsoft, right? We had a paperclip back in the day, just to assist us. This'll blow your mind, you could change the paperclip to a wizard. Or a dog. Or a dog.

The dog was good. The dog was good. The dog was good. It was simpler times. It was much simpler. And we would make borders for our work. Looks like you're trying to make a graph. Yeah sure I am. Clippy dog, clippy guy. Females underrepresented in the 90s. Oh yeah wow it was a different time. And gosh I long for And gosh. I'm just on copilot now. Have you got any questions? And it says do you want a quick response or do you want me to think deeper? That's for more context issues. I don't use email enough to all offer that. Okay so that's a workplace actively encouraging you to cheat. Oh I used to have a cupcake business. Yum. Yum. Also that's a business I used to have a cupcake business. Oh, yum. Yum. Also, that's a business I couldn't have because I get so fat.

You get so fat. Also, it feels like a business everybody had. Yeah. It was like cupcakes for women in their early 30s was t-shirt companies for guys in their 20s. Yeah, for sure. We all thought about starting a t-shirt company, didn't we? Yeah.

I used to have a cupcake business and another company would always rip off my new and creative flavors and designs blatantly So they were like well imitation is the sincerest form of flattery Yeah, yeah, well you just gotta make new flavors, don't you yeah When I was a controversial to say I prefer a muffin over a cupcake if the muffins got icing Wow, okay. Wow if the muffins got icing?

Wow, okay, wow, let me think. A muffin with icing is a cupcake. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's a different type. No, it's not. Cupcakes are smaller than a muffin. Like for example, the raspberry white chocolate with a glaze of white chocolate icing. I believe at the BP, I believe they do that.

That's a muffin. What about a carrot cake muffin with cream cheese icing? No, but that's a cake. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, No, no, no, it's not. It's all on the shape. It's a muffin. If it's baked in a muffin tin, it's a muffin. To be honest, I don't mind either Vaughan. But maybe you're right.

Cupcakes are always sweet and little and really cakey. Yeah, and very sweet. And you might get more in the muffin. I cannot tell you the last time I had a muffin. Oh, you simply must. Christine's banana breaded. That'll get you going. That'll get it moving, baby.

Just to bring us back to the phone and topic. Sorry, sorry. When I was 10 years old. Tomorrow sell a little pole. Muffins or cupcakes. I predict a landslide. When I was 10 years old for my Girl Guides writing badge, I copied a short story from a random book.

They liked it so much they wanted to enter it into a competition. Oh no! I declined. See, that's the kind of thing you could get away. Oh yeah. They knew and they were trying to flush it out of you. Like, as a kid that told porkies,

my parents would, they'd bluff you. Yeah, yeah. They'd bluff you and you'd have to admit it. Yeah. Lots of people get caught, lots of people have been caught copying. I had to write a piece about myself for the company newsletter as I was new. I used ChatGPT with a couple of prompts and the person in charge of the newsletter said,

you didn't write this, did you? Wow, I'm called out. I would feel so embarrassed. Yeah. Haven't been caught yet, but I've been in my role at work for nearly two years and I've used ChatGPT since day one, so they all think that's just how I communicate. It's gotten to the point where my boss now wants to use me to coach other managers on how to communicate with other people.

He keeps going on about how good of a communicator I am, calling it, insert my name, speak. I'm too deep now. I'm too deep now. I just need to find a new job. Oh no, that's terrible. I just need to find a new job. I'm just gonna leave. I'm just gonna blow it apart. I used AI to break up with my ex he called

me out because it was filled with that long hyphen that chatGPT and AI uses. Yeah yeah. The long hyphen huh um somebody said I'm not gonna mention business names here but apparently a semi high-profile case here in Aotearoa New Zealand. The owner of a jewelry company copied designs entirely from another jewelry company, actually ended up going to court. Oh wow, okay. I remember it. There's a couple of New Zealand companies.

Do you? A couple of Kiwi companies. So I called out a friend on these drawings that she'd put on Facebook, and she said was her own, including one I designed and I even have tattoo friend on these drawings that she'd put on Facebook and she said was her own, including one I designed and I even have tattooed on me. Called her out publicly about it. My ex-mother-in-law passed my frame sketches off as one of her own in her business Facebook page too.

Called her out to her. You must be good at drawing. You must be rare, I'd be taking that compliment. That is a big thing for tattoo artists though, when they come up with a tattoo design and then a whole bunch of other tattoo artists. Yeah, like God forbid they see another dolphin on another white chick.

I know. Yeah, but I came up with the dolphin. Specifically for white chicks. Okay, sorry, yeah, sorry. I had an employee's AI to write her own self-performance appraisal. English was her second language, so I knew straight away. Gave her points for ingenuity and for being clever,

but had to send it back to her to rewrite it in her own words. Yeah. Self-performance appraisal is, I'll say it, bullshit. It's so dumb. How do you think you're doing? Nailing it. Yeah, nailing it, nailing it, I'm nailing it.

What do you think about the pay? Reckon I deserve more. I reckon I deserve, what's your weakness? That I care too much. Care too much. I care too much. I care too much is so funny. I care I deserve. What's your weakness? That I care too much. I care too much. I care too much is so funny. This chat GPT hyphen thing is BS.

If you're typing in Word and use a hyphen, it also autocorrects it to a long hyphen. Oh, okay. So, I don't know, do you have to manually go through and change your hyphens? Yeah, you might have to. Or take out the hyphens? People don't use hyphens that much. No, people don't really use them. I love a hyphen. I love a hyphen. He's hucking out hyphens left right in the centre.

I've said hyphen too many times, it's lost all meaning. Well I'm excited for the Cellular Little Poll results tomorrow. Muffin will come back. Well Big Sandy's already weighing in. Big Sandy here I ate 12 muffins for Smiko. 12? No wonder you're Big Sandy. Shut up Big Sandy.

How big we talking? That sounds like that's the base of her food pyramid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Muffins. No better foundation. Play ZM's Fletch-Born and Hayley. We've talked about screen time already on the show, and it's something I'm actively trying to address in my own life. What was the study today that was out today that the modern, like students now or kids younger, if they get a smartphone at about age 11,'ll end up spending 25 years of their life on screens. Six. Fun in there though.

Lots of good stuff. Do you know what I mean? Some dark. I sent a couple of dark memes this morning. Yeah, well it's dark times in the world at the moment. Dark times. So, you know, Black Mirror, the TV show Black Mirror, the Black Mirror is the screen that we hold right in front of our face.

That's the idea of it. Then the screen goes off, it's a little black mirror. We look at ourselves. that we hold right in front of our face yeah that's the idea of it then the screen goes off it's a little black mirror we look at ourselves now something that was sorry carry on hmm if you want to play a song we can just cut me off but if you like you know I don't listen to the shit it's a song move on move on something that was taking up a bit of my screen time every day and it was a game I was playing and I've been playing it for ages. Yesterday, oh no, day before I deleted it. Wow!

I deleted it off my phone. Was this one you were playing at work sometimes when we'd be talking? Yeah, you'd look over and you'd be like, what is he doing? Yeah. No, no, no. Mining something. No, Idol Miner was the bad one. That was the bad, that got you hooked.

That got me hooked. Yeah. But then I kind of had this moment with Idol Minor where I was just like huh the next level is just the same thing yeah and then the next level is just the same thing and it's the same thing over and over again what is life man what is game life man that's reflecting life I'm gonna do the same thing over and over again and sometimes it gets worse and then it's it's the same and same and same over and over. This one's one that you'll definitely have seen an ad for,

it was called Last War, and these dudes are running along the road and you gotta pick which one you gotta pick. But that was like the, that's what gets you in. Yeah. That's the tiniest part of that game. Yeah. You build a base,

and every day you gotta tick off these tasks, but they're the same tasks every day. They're the same tasks every day, guys. Okay. That's so good. And I got to a level of, just the other day every day. They're the same tasks every day, guys. Okay. That's so good. And I got to a level where just the other day, I was just like, this is giving me no joy. Okay.

So I Marie, what, Marie Combo? Yeah. Was that her name? Yeah, where you cleaned out your wardrobe and you threw everything away. I held it down and then the icon jiggled and then I was like delete that. Didn't it come out that she was messy or something?

Oh, it came out that she sort of stopped throwing stuff out and became a bit of a hoarder, for sure. Yeah, is that for real? Yeah, yeah, she was just like, oh, I've sort of let things go a bit. Yeah, I thought it came out that she had, she bought a whole bunch of celery, even though she needed one stalk of celery,

and then just let it go goopy and turn into celery, yuck, muck. I think with her newfound fame, she got all this money, so she started buying things, and then she was like, oh my God, I've got some stuff now. I love stuff now. Like how good's things? Yeah, how good's things?

Stuff, things, trinkets. How's good clutter? Bits and pieces. And then she turned even, she went even harder and turned into me and was like, oh my God, what about taxidermy? Do you know what I mean? Like antiques and trinkets.

Yeah, so then the things I have that are alive, when they die, I can keep them as things. Yeah, exactly. Oh my God, what about like charms? Charms for everything. Bag tags and charms and keychains. So it's gone. Good way. You know what? I don't even miss it. Wow until you find the next game.

I haven't even done that thing. You know where you have a, and you go look, you scroll to the next page because that's where you keep the games. Yep. Keep the games on the second page of apps. Hmm. And you kind of that automatic response when you open your phone, you flip to the second page. Yeah.

I haven't even done that. I'm game-less at the moment. You're a changed man. Yeah. Okay, how long for? How long is this going to last? Dunno, I am itching for a new game. You're feeling surprised, I was going to say. Are you feeling any itch yet?

Yeah. I'm revisiting Wordle. Oh yeah, okay. Revisiting Wordle. Well that's good for your brain. The group I went away with, King's Birthday Weekend, it turns out everybody in that group was still doing Wordle, so we started a Wordle chat, and we chuck the Wordle in every day.

Okay. So yeah, still back on the Wordle buzz, that's scratching the bitch. Okay, well proud of you. Yeah, proud of your horn. Thanks for delivering. Really good. Proud of your horn.

Yeah, thanks horn. Oh, you know what, it's nice to see a friend do something nice for themselves. Yeah, thanks horn. Yeah, good on your horn. Really appreciate it. Now next on the what? It's nice to see a friend do something nice for themselves. Yeah, thanks Horn. Yeah, good on your Horn. Really appreciate it.

Now next on the show, let's talk about a hair trend that's coming in. None of the three girls on the show are currently rocking said trend. I could be game. Okay. I could be game. Play ZM's Fletch Fawn and Hayley.

Guys, it is called the Bob De Jour. The Bob of the day. You know, like soup de jour, soup of the day. Yep, okay. If it was French, we'd call it the Bob de Jour, the Bob of the day. You know, like soup de jour, soup of the day. Yep, okay. If it was French, we'd call it the Bob de Jour. Like Bob haircuts. Bob haircut. Do you know who's done this?

Now you may remember a while back, Sophia Richie, when she got married, she was the one who made us all have a low, slick bun with a centre part. Something that I've been rocking for ages. I didn't realise I was influenced by Sophia Richie, but hey, here you are, that's how fashion works. You don't know where it came from originally, originally Sofia Richie.

She said that her hair was feeling the frizzazel of constant blonding. She went for a French bob and now the internet is like, Queen, you tell us what to do, we're cutting our hair off. And so everyone's reaching for the skizzes. As a man that has been around for a certain amount of time, I would point to previous examples of hairstyles like this that don't suit everybody.

Pixie cuts. Not for me. Not for everybody. I got a bit of a moon face. Hey, the Natalie Portman head shave from Viv Vendetta. Not for everybody. Minch Fringe, not for everyone. No, Minch Fringe, not for everybody.

Not for everyone. Zoe Deschanel bangs. Not for everyone. I tried them, not for me. Not for everybody. But the French Bob, Sophia Richie has dictated. So what is it, I'm gonna go with this. I will say, not for everybody.

French Bob. French Bob. Oh yeah. That's a Jessica Biel. Jessica Biel could, I thought that was Jessica Biel when you showed me that. No, Jessica Bale, Bob's far longer than this, you idiot. You absolute fool.

Oh, born. Have I made a foolish mistake? Don't expect to born like that. He used to work at Rodney Wayne. I forgot, actually this man knows hair. Thank you. And then I went bald and they kicked me out. Yeah.

I didn't realise it was actually Rodney Wayne. It was actually Rodney himself. Rodney came down. I can't have a bald hairdresser. Yeah, I can't see through it. But how wild is it that you see bald hairdressers? Worse than a skinny chef, I'll say it. Way worse.

Way worse than a skinny chef is a bald hairdresser. What do you know? Wait, is Rodney Wayne actually a person? Yeah. Is that? Yeah. His name's Rodney. It's surname Wayne.

It's surname Wayne. Amazing. You idiot, couple of idiots I'm working with here. I feel like Rodney Wayne was bald. No. The Rod surname Wayne. It's surname Wayne. Amazing. You idiot. Couple of idiots I'm working with here. I feel like Rodney Wayne was bald. No. The Rodney Wayne. The name Rodney gives big bald.

I will say it. Really? Okay. So it's like a bob, like your shoulder length would be like that's Bob. This is like chin. We're going hard. Right. And people are hacking.

I think you could pull this off. Well, the only thing, cause she said the reason she was doing it is cause a lot of her hair was quite damaged and so is mine. And it's most of it's fake. So I was like, just pull this off. Well, the only, cause she said the reason she was doing it is cause a lot of her hair was quite damaged and so is mine and most of it's fake. So I was like, just hack it off. I said the other day to a friend that I was gonna shave my hair off at some point in my life. That moment.

Well like bald head or like a Brittany, like a meltdown. Is it a meltdown? A shave or? It could definitely be reflective of a meltdown. Right. Do you know what I mean? I could totally, but then I'm like, why not? Why not do it now?

Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no time at the present. why not? Why not do it now? Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no time at the present. The only thing is I do want a face lift and if I'm bald, you will be able to see the stitches. Rodney Wayne's, I found a picture of Rodney Wayne, thick as hell. You bastard, he went to Turkey though. I thought he would. Do you know what I mean?

No he didn't. Surely he got some plugs. No he just got a beautiful head of hair. I'm just surprised he's even a real person. Now, Carwin, you were saying we can't have a four-balled show. Is that a law in radio? I just feel like, you know, we have two men and one female. We can't have three balls.

They won't be able to tell which one's which. Yeah, that'll be a problem. Everyone's already like, oh, Fletch, when they're talking about warms. Right, what if I hyperfeminised everything else and I started wearing low-cut tops with push-up bras and heavy makeup and lashes But just bald. United in boy-ness.

What if I started wearing push-up bras and low cut tops? Well then flex would have to as well. Or the boys have to wear wigs. Now what do you, producer girl, at least think of the bob? It's cute on her. I don't. Do you know what any of that, literally like a garbage bag and like a dog turd on her head would look cute on her. Do you know what any of that literally like a garbage bag and like a dog turd on her head would look cute on her? I don't have the time in the morning to style

it. She has a stylist. Wait, does the bob require some styling? Yeah, some flickage. Flickage, volume, cutlery. Wait a minute. And is the bob too short to tie up? Yeah, totally. Yeah, so you've got to do it. It's very annoying. Yeah I think it's very dependent on the thickness of your hair and for me mine's see-through at the moment. Mine's also see-through. Mine's actually see-through too. I do have hair but it's fully transparent. It's crazy. How class it falls. What are those noodles? Vermicelli noodles Yeah, that's the colour of my head. Play ZM's Flashpoint in Hayley. I don't want to make everybody jealous, but

Maddie McLean just popped into the studio and I got a hug. And he smelt great and apparently he's still saying goodbye. He did smell good. Always smells great. We'll have a news update with Brynn at 8 o'clock in just a few minutes. But overnight, there has been further escalation in the Middle East. And it's making people, us included,

and it is very privileged, we will say, to be able to go overseas. I will say it is privileged, but also you work really hard and you save, Hayley doesn't, Fletch, you save hard and you go without to have these experiences. Hayley, you work very, very hard. And you don't save, you just work.

Yeah, right. Rather than being like, I should be kind to myself and just not spend as much money. You're like, no, I'll work even harder. Work to the bone. And so I can spend and have money to go. And by, what's that, stuffed animals. Taxi do me.

Taxi do me and leather jackets and trips away. Well, Iran launched missiles at a US base, United States base in Qatar which has closed Qatari airspace. So is Qatar a US buddy the weekend, I know there were some flights to London with Singapore Airlines and, what's the other one? Emirates? Emirates, yeah. Yeah, that were also cancelled. Is Kadrona Ski Field involved in any of these

ongoing conflicts? I believe they are Iranian-owned, so no. Hey! They're not, they're not. Whoa, whoa, that's where I'm going. That's the only where I'm going So as long as that's not affected by any airspace closure. No, we joke we joke we love I flew over Katrina on Friday, Thursday, and it was insane the snow

But yeah, so a lot of people do have Flights coming up for Europe a lot of people and we did poll last week. Are you going away for Matariki? People said a lot of people said no did a poll last week, are you going away for Matariki? People said, a lot of people said no, they weren't going away for the long weekend, but so many people were like, oh I'm going for my first time to Europe, I'm going to Europe this summer, and now a lot of people are worried.

So we've been sort of scrambling this morning, cause we have both flying into Doha next Wednesday. Yeah. To then go to our destinations of choice. But then it's like, what do you do? Do you go via America, who are the ones that attacked Iran that then could have reprisal attacks on home soil? Totally.

Or we were looking at going Asian routes or Malaysian routes. But they kind of go around or to the side of all the action. It's a small planet. It's a small planet. It's a small planet. It's really from where we are, there's sort of one direction to get to where we want to go. Yeah. So I guess you just kind of hope it'll be fine. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I go to a travel agent because like this, my mom keeps saying, and my mom never uses travel agents, but she was like, they might know, you know, they might, they'll be all over it this morning and looking and dealing with lots of people. And if you've got flights, don't just sort of ignore it and assume that you're going to have to use them. And also travel insurance, that doesn't count, because there's always that act, you know,

we learnt this during the pandemic, that pandemics, acts of God and terrorism and war, you're not counted with, you're not covered for any of those, right? But what if you booked it before the terrorism and war became a thing? No, no, no, it's just not covered. It's in the fine print. But I'm sure if your airline does cancel your flights

or you end up not flying, you'll get your money back, unlike some of the pandemic flights where that just disappeared or turned into credit. Yeah, I mean, I'd rather have European memories and a nice tan than sort of your money back for your flight though. Was the pandemic an act of God? And what if you don't believe in God? No, isn't there a movie based on this?

Yeah, they sued God. They sued God. Billy Connelly. Billy Connelly sued God because of an act of God. Because it's always in all of your insurance policies, act of God. It's like, well, I don't believe in God, so, because my money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm an atheist, so no. But yeah, I guess, yeah. Just check. Check where, if you are going overseas, check where you're flying into, check with the airline, check with your insurance, check with a travel agent, because- Also, Hailey didn't have travel insurance, just found that out. Yeah. Just before. I

always get a last minute. Yeah well no but that doesn't help you if you break your leg like a month before your trip does it? Got a last minute. I got it this morning. It doesn't, it's not gonna help you though is it? Got it. Okay right yeah that's not it you should get it with someone. Someone said they went to Europe via Vancouver. Oh yeah, okay. In a couple of days. I can speak to Vancouver rules. Oh see, everybody loves the Canadians.

Yeah, everyone loves the Canadians. Love the Canadians. Love the Canadians. I don't have a single problem with any Canadians. Do you? Canadian club. Had a rough night on that once. Too sweet.

Too sweet. Play ZM's Fleshborne and Hayley. Play ZM's Fleshborne and Hayley. I don't know if you saw this on social media because I am I Followed Steve Irwin's son Robert Irwin on socials ever since he took his clothes off I actually followed him before he took his clothes off. Because of his love of the environment and animals. He rules. He's his father's son and I was a massive Steve fan. He is a good dude and he works at the Australia Zoo and he's just like carrying on the legacy that was Steve Irwin.

And so they all actually are Irwins. So he shared that he was on a flight in Australia and he went on the in-flight entertainment and there it was, the Crocodile Hunter Collision Course, 2002 movie that had both his mum and his father in it. And he just filmed himself like selecting it and just watching it for his flight. Would he have been a baby or even born? No. So he's 21 and the movie was 2002. So no, he wasn't even alive. He was like a baby when his dad died.

Yeah. Yeah. So and then he just put a caption saying when the in-flight movie selection is elite. Yeah. And then it's just, everyone's this like cry face emoji. I just saw it yesterday in a Volney's moment and I just had a weep.

Wow, you cried seeing. I just like on Steve Irwin's thing, just being like, man, that must be tough, but beautiful. Yeah, it was, I saw it and yeah, I didn't cry, but I was like, man, that rules, like how great is it? He didn't get to know his dad in person, but everybody tells him how wonderful his father was. And he's got this documented evidence

of what a great man his father was. Yeah, and then have you seen as well at Australia Zoo, they have almost like a Madame Tussauds, Madame Tussauds figure. Madame Tussauds? Tussauds. I'm really hitting the U. Madame Tussauds.

Madame Tussauds. Thing of Sabre when he cried when he saw it. Tussauds was actually my rap name. He's always in a bath when he raps. So much Tussauds. Anyway, it absolutely got me going and I was like, sometimes it's good to cry. And once you open the floodgates, half of them just stop.

I want to know what made you cry recently. Maybe within the last month or so. Yeah, well for you yesterday, it was seeing this. It was Steve Irwin's son watching. Are you sure it wasn't your big long weekend? Nah. That made you cry?

No. Sleep is not essential. It's so boring that you think sleep is necessary. It's actually the cornerstone of a healthy life. Or someone watched Lion King. Which one? I guess the original. The original, because I watched that Computer General one,

that was harrowing too. Oh, you didn't like it? It didn't make you cry. Oh. When we watched it, it really upset the girls, which of course upset me. This is going back sometime. Okay, yeah.

When it first came out. You say, this is really, this is, I'm getting it. Why did you cry in the last month or so? Someone said last week, I was heading to a birthday party and I spent 10 minutes trying to put my Chuck Taylors on, only to realise I'd forgotten to change my pants so I had to take them off and do it all over again. This is why I hate Chuck Taylors.

I'm seven months pregnant and I couldn't breathe from bending over. Honestly, we all need to move on from Chuck Taylors. I wear them almost constantly and they are the worst for doing up and out. Yeah, or when you go gen shopping and you're wearing Chuck's. Kill me. It's a terrible decision.

Jesus take the wheel. OK, 0800 DALS at Emma's our number. Give us a call. You can text through 9696. What made you cry recently? It was a post by Steve Irwin's son, Bob. Yeah, Bobby Irwin, it was shared that he was on a flight and the interflight entertainment had his dad's 2002 movie The Crocodile Whisperer Hunter Hunter something yeah and he watched it on the

flight and they are just it just made me you cried I cried yesterday and I was just like with beauty and sadness and all of those feelings so I want to know what made you cry recently. And I'll tell you what, lots of tears. Sophie, what was it that made you cry? Oh, hi, guys. Can I say first time caller, long time listener? Beautiful, beautiful.

You are a bit of a, we get a stickler for the rules. You've actually got to say long time listener, first time caller. Oh, I stuffed it up. That's OK. Do you want to have another run at it? And we can all. Yeah, yeah. OK. OK, in that particular order. I stuffed it up. No, you're fine. That's okay. Do you want to have another run at it and we can all... Yeah, yeah, okay. Okay, so let's say, hi Sophie, welcome to the show. Oh, hey guys.

Long time listener, first time caller. Yay! Beautifully delivered, Sophie. I feel you just add the pressure on people, Vaughan, being a stickler for the rules. Because sometimes they try again and it's almost worse. We have let a couple of people away with it. We have recently it and I've received messages from people being like, Smithy. There's an order to this thing. Right, so that's why. Sophie, I want to welcome you to the show. Thank you for calling. You're Maiden Voyage. Thank you. What made you cry recently? So yesterday I let a bus into traffic, because we're pretty inconsiderate down in the South sometimes.

And he flashed his advice to say thank you and I started to tear up. Have you got your period? What's happening? When's the period, Jew? Are we pregnant? Yeah, Jew today. Yeah, Jew today. Yeah, yeah. Man, so it's the things you cry about, eh? Two days out. I know. Oh my god, it's just unreal.

A kindness in traffic. Yeah. It is rare though, I'll be honest. It is a beautiful moment. It is. Sophie, thank you. Sophie, thanks for joining us. Yeah, thank you for sharing.

Anonymous, what made you cry recently? Hi, I foster kittens and I currently have some feral ones and one of them finally let me pet him. Oh and that was and that made you cry you had a breakthrough. I crawled like a little baby. Oh my god thank you for the work you do for the cats. Because my I had a um one of these feral kittens and it's it doesn't take long and they they love you.

No you've made them more feral. You've actually made your cats behavior-licious. We have to rescue because of people like you. That's right! What do you mean people like me? I still have my feral cat. You have been called out. You made it feral by not disciplining it. You're the most feral cat honestly. Anonymous thank you. I cried at the ending of Toy Story 3 while watching it at the weekend when they're all in the garbage heap

heading towards the furnace because they started holding hands and they accept their fate and it didn't matter that they were gonna die as long as they were all together and even the thought of it almost gets me going. That's one of the best movies. It's not real though, is it?

It's a movie. That's one of the best moments in any Pixar film. I'd do that with you guys on a conveyor belt. I'd hold hands and I'd say, okay. I'd try to get off the conveyor belt. I don't think I'd give up. I'd probably use you, I'd probably press against you to leverage myself up out of the conveyor belt.

It's like kicking me. Yeah, towards the furnace. It's good to sort of touch base when we were all out. Seeing an old man in a restaurant having dinner by himself, maybe cry recently. I'm autistic and I cried because someone made the spring rolls round and the recipe showed them square. Hahahaha! I understand it'll be difficult for you.

Yeah. Yeah, wow. Um, two minutes ago my husband left to drop the kids off and close the garage door. I was outside defrosting the car to go to the doctors. I went to open the front door to go inside. Kitty locks on from the inside because my son's sleepwalks. I was locked out in a cotton nightie, trying all the doors and windows.

It's currently negative two. Oh babes. Oh no. Oh babes. Wait, are they still outside? I think they must have got in. Oh, they got in their car? I'm not sure. Goodness.

Oh gosh. I'm a 38 year old dude and over the past six months, I've been making a driftwood fort on the beach. A recently went down and have been completely disassembled. It was about 10 foot tall total, had two different rooms and a picturesque window. And I let myself have a bit of a cry when I realized all my hard work had been undone by somebody who didn't want someone to have something nice.

Oh, that sucks dude. Can you please send me photos of your Driftwood castle? Could we come and visit it? We'll have a cup of tea in it. Vaughan would probably join you to make another one. If you're near me I will 100 100% driftwood castle with you. Two kings, two kings building a kingdom. Yep. Are we invited for snacks and drinks? We'll bring drinks. I'll come when it's finished, I'm not helping.

Oh, I see. We're familiar with this story, Little Piggy. Little Piggy. My boss got me a three game Pass the Warriors home game and told me to stop being so hard on myself And then I'm doing f-ing well haven't cried like that in a while. Oh Wow, okay, that's nice. This is so nice. I wasn't I was anticipating more sad cries Yeah, there's some nice emotional releases. I was feeding my six month old son at 2am. Oh my god Someone just said of course we can't visit his Driftwood Castle, it was destroyed.

No, but when we rebuild. Oh, okay. We're visiting the rebuild. Yeah, we're talking about the new one that you're making. Kia kaha! We will rebuild! Gorgeous Rayo Maori there. Thank you very much, Kia kaha!

Wow. We will rebuild. On behalf of all Maori listening, thank you. Kia kaha! Jesus Christ. I was feeding my six month old son at 2am in the lounge and he looked up at me and gave me the most loving smile. I don't know why but I bawled my eyes out whilst my partner was in bed and there was a 34 year old male who never cries here.

Oh nice. I bet that's nice. My baby daughter looking straight into my eyes and saying da da, clear as day, brought this grown ass man to tears almost immediately Oh My 18 month old a lot of babies later 18 month old saying love you for the first time and I bought my eyes out I Was eating short bread and I was dunking one in a coffee and the cookie broke and sunk to the bottom

So I'm just sitting here staring at the cup of one and white good bad things happen to good people crying And someone is now cry laughing thanks to Kiakaha wondering why good bad things happen to good people. Crying. Because the short person you're crying. And someone is now cry laughing thanks to Kia Kaha. Kia Ha Ha. Kia Kaha Ha. I had a cry when I found out that when whales get old they get too tired and weak to make it to the surface for air so they just end up drowning down there. Oh! What?

Why would you tell us that? I didn't know that was a thing. They just give up. They give up, they get too tired. I guess that's what we do, right? We get tired, but we live in here. We just lay down. Yeah.

We just lay down and stop breathing. Whereas that just down south, down deep. Interesting. I was playing with my cat and telling her how much she's always been there for me through all my tough times and how I'll be devastated when she dies and I found myself boring my eyes out because I love my cat so much. Sometimes I Pat my cat and cry and I think forward to the day he dies Why am I doing this? Yeah, don't like enjoy the present. Yeah, don't think about it

Everything and everyone dies Haley. That's just life. Yeah, I know but not in my life I recently won a blackwater rafting trip from you guys, but I didn't realise I'd also won a thousand dollars. I'd just finished a run and I got the tics and I burst into tears. Did we give away a black water rafting trip? Yeah, we gave a black water rafting trip. God, we're nice.

How nice. We're awesome, hey? We're so nice, aren't we? Pretty good. We just give away things all the time. Yeah, I know. Hey, wanna go see Lord and Red Rocks? Sure.

Hey, want some money? Sure. My mum came around to my- Wanna go black and Red Rocks? Sure. Hey, want some money? Sure. My mum came around to mine- Wanna go water rafting? Sure. Sure. My mum came around to mine for brunch. She ended up cooking because I was too stressed.

She served my bacon on the side and not underneath. What the F? I cried. It's okay. Is it the wrong way? It's the safest way to serve the bacon because you can always re-stack. But if it's underneath,'s hard to unstack. Dealers choice.

Mum did right. I nearly cried today trying to get the perfect messy bun. You can't. You can't. Oh, if you know, you know girls. What you need to do is tell yourself you don't even care. Yeah, it's messy. I don't even need the, no, no, no, but achieving,

you fool, for God's sake. Achieving a messy bun is not actually creating a messy bun. Oh. Look at Shannon today. Shannon, stand up for us please, Producer Shannon. Turn around. Now that is not just a messy bun. She didn't just jam that in.

Wait, I think you're just jamming it in. It feels like you're offending her because she was trying to have it nice, but it's turned out messy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is the highest compliment. Yeah. Okay.

The way to get the perfect messy bun is to visualise you shut your eyes and you say, I'm hopping in the shower. Yeah, I don't even care. I don't even care. I just don't want to get my hair wet. Do you know that when you first said messy bun, all I could think of was a Chelsea bun with bad icing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd still eat it, to be honest.

Oh no, I've put too much glaze be honest. Even if the icing's bad. Oh no, there's too much icing. It's gonna get all over their fingers while they're eating it. You gotta invest less in the messy bun. And then you'll get the perfect one. The moment you are like, oh I'm just getting into the spiral,

I'm gonna go into the shower, top of the head, perfect. The moment you're like, messy bun for going out. Oh, you reckon? Play ZM's Bletch, Vaughan and Hayley. Fact of the Day Day Facts about time. That would be a great song to have in the background actually. Gwen Stefani please.

Doesn't she say, take a chance you stupid hoe. Yes she does. Yeah okay I don't think we can play that one. Well I already said it. But what's that song called? What You Waiting For. What You Waiting For. But what's that song called? Tic-tac-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic- God, that's painful isn't it? That was weird eh, who knew? That's one of Christmas songs, doesn't it? God. That reminds me Gwen Stefani. What you got, What You Waiting For. What You Waiting For. Yeah, there we go, okay, lovely. Her song with Eve was good, remember that?

Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock. This is when she appropriated Japanese culture for a while. Okay, well all this week it's Facts About Time. Oh my God, jam! Jam! Dude, this is on my gym playlist. I did it for Friday Flashback once and I'll tell you, it fell flat. Did it?

Yeah. Wow. Maybe people just weren't feeling it right then. Yeah, yeah, but we're feeling it now. Yeah, because we're giving the person context. I want to hear that line. And then it changes. And then she changes it later.

Well, today's time fact is about the two notable attempts that the French government tried to change from the clock we all know, 60 seconds in a minute, 60 minutes in an hour, 24 hours in a day, to what is called the French Revolutionary time of a decimal clock. They introduced a time system that divided the day into 10 hours, each hour was 100 minutes,

and each minute was 100 seconds. Okay, this would make more sense, right? Yeah. Because it's- Hundreds, we do everything else by hundreds. We do everything else. That's decimal. This 60 makes no sense.

Like why is 15 even relevant? Do you know what I mean? So it officially began on November 24th, 1793, but very, very unpopular. People were used to the 24 hour system, obviously. Yeah. And they were all asked to replace every clock. Guys, the year was 1793.

Clocks weren't cheap. No. I'm not lying now. Do you know what I saw? I saw out the other day, a clock. It's a functioning clock, but it was also a safe. What do you mean a safe?

A safe clock. A safe as in to hide your valuables. Right. And you cut a hole in the wall. Yep. And it sat in the wall. And it just looked like a clock hanging on the wall. Well now you've told everyone.

But it had depth. You've told everyone about the secret. Now you've told everyone that your clock is a safe. I didn't buy it. And then you go click and you open the clock. Yep. I think I saw on the thing there was like, in the three there was two buttons

and you pushed the button and it opened like on a hinge and that's where you could keep all your valuables. I would love a secret hidden safe but I don't have anything to put in it. I want a hidden room behind a know, behind a bookshelf. Yeah. Pull a book. Yeah.

A little hidey hole. I want a bunker. Yeah. That'd be cool. I mean, I've left it a little bit late. World War Three is about to start. Yeah, you kind of, you meant to build your bunker before World War Three. We've got a high water table as well.

Like last week when I had to dig that big hole to bury my pig, which I didn't talk about what made me cry recently and what we just talked about. That really ruined me. Really fell to my knees and screamed no, no, no. The phono wasn't what made you sob and cry to the heavens. And scream no, no, no. What else, what else, what else will you throw at me, God? What did I do to anger you?

Stop it, I went to church. What more do you want? I tried my best. But the water table's too high. Cause that hole filled up with water. Yeah, because you couldn't bury your pig. I don't think my- Cause it started floating. Cause that hole filled up with water. Yeah, because you couldn't bury your back cause it was started floating.

Yeah, exactly. So I had to get a wet vac out to suck all the water out of the hole and continually empty it. What a miserable thing. And then it was a race against time to then respectfully get one of my best friends into the hole and blank and then weigh him down

cause I don't want him floating up when it fills up. And then a game vacuum out around my dead friend. And then put dirt in there as quick as I could. In a paddock. Yeah, it was weird dude. It was a 40 metre extension cord. Weird, okay. It was crazy.

So take a step back, I won't be building a bunker. Take another step back, you don't have a safe. Take another step back, the safe that I saw that was actually a clock that goes on the wall. Take another step back, cause we're talking about clocks. So they tried and it didn't work. The system was abandoned as a mandatory 17 months later, but you can still find the odd public clock

that will have dual, what they've called dual dials. One will be the 10 hour decimal day and one will be a traditional 24 hour system. You can't just choose what time is though. You absolutely can. Do you reckon? Well, absolutely. Who do you think?

Somebody one day just did choose what time was. I know, but then we all agreed as a planet. So, I don't know. With their clock, did that mean all the months and years were different? Would line up? Cause you've heard the theory about the 10 month year? Yes. Cause that would be, your about the 10 month year. Yeah cause that would make-

But the problem would be your birthday would always be on a Tuesday. If you were born on a Tuesday, your birthday would always be on a Tuesday. Yeah, whereas sometimes I like it when you're like, oh, it's Friday this year. I like the surprise of not knowing what day my birthday is gonna be on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you see it's a Saturday and you're like, stink, all my school friends aren't gonna be able to say to hello to me as I walk around. They'll forget. From science to English. Yeah. But I do get to have a party on the day.

On the actual day. Yeah. Okay. So, and they tried again in 1897. That time though it was a 24 hour day with 100 minutes and 102nd minutes. So again, it didn't work. They didn't like it, it was too much to change. Well, they tried.

They tried their best. If at first you don't succeed, give up and just let it didn't work. They didn't like it, it was too much to change. They tried, they tried their best. If at first you don't succeed, give up and just let it be. Yeah, I don't know if that's how it goes. I don't know if that's the saying. If at first you don't succeed, just give up and let it be. That's how it works. It rhymes with my life. Like an old whale just sank to the bottom.

Yeah, and just give up. I mean, the crabs have some. You know, they sink to the bottom and the crabs eat the whale. I don't know if a crab could penetrate a whale. I think the crab, what do you think the whale, the whale gets soft.

It'll start. Have you never seen the crab, the crab, the bottom feeders man, the crabs, the shrimps, the prawns, the starfish. That's payday man. They will get it, that's payday baby. That's payday.

No, a crab cannot eat a whale. Crabs are scavengers and they and consume parts of a dead whale. But they're not capable of consuming a live whale. I didn't think a crab would get into the army together and be like, jump now and jump on the whale. It would have to be pretty manky for a crab to have a go at a whale. I think they get soft pretty quick. And then they get into the soft parts and they go in and they sort of eat their way out.

Never seen a soft whale. How good is soft shell crab though? It's the best. With a little temper on it. But you know any crab can be soft shell crab. You've just got to get them when they shed their shell. They shed their shell and you grab them while they're soft. Okay, interesting.

Before they harden. We covered a lot. My favourite was crabs and the safe that's also a clock. My favourite was soft, just right now when we're talking about soft shell crab. Delicious. I love it. Great fact of the day.

I was thinking Asian, with like chilies, coriander. And a bao bun. And a bao bun! Lovely, good from you. Or just a bao I think, cause you say bun, you're sort of saying it twice. Bun bun. It's like saying pin number,

you're saying personal identification number number. Anyway, we're rambling. Today's fact of the day is that the French have twice tried to change the clock from a 24 hour day to a 10 hour day. Ah, fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Do do do, do do, do do do, do do, do do, do do, do do, do do do, do do, do do.

Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley. D-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- I just leave tops and jackets and plugs and this and everything in the hotel room and that's it. It's just gone. And I left... Do you not do a sweep, a hotel sweep? I'm often in a state. I'll be honest. I mean, look, I've done it too.

The charges, especially when you have to, in a hotel or an Airbnb, you have to pull out the side table to get your charger in so you can charge your phone and then you don't see it. In the morning you grab your phone, you're packing everything else and off your trot. Well I did that like maybe a few months ago and then I ended up going into a tech place and getting a real nice fast charger.

Oh yeah. Baby I had a USB hole and a skinny hole, you know? USB-C. Yeah, I don't know where and a skinny hole, you know? USB-C. Yeah, I don't know where it is. USB-C's a fast one. I've got one with two USB-C's in one charger. It's amazing. Well this in the one charger had one for an old one

because my Apple Watch one has an old fat slot. Yeah. And I needed a skinny hole. You're still on the fat slots. Fat slots for Apple Watch. What are you on a skinny slot on your phone? Yeah, for the end for the When it goes into the yeah, yeah, yeah, and I see to the guys like make it fast, baby

You know, baby make it fast. I said mr. Jacob, please make it fast Yeah, so we get this charger and I was expensive Yeah, it was expensive, but I was like boom boom this thing would charge a phone from 0 to 100 in like a few minutes Okay This thing would charge a phone from zero to a hundred in like a few minutes. Okay, that's super fast. But like it was fast. Food fast. Yeah. So then yesterday I sometimes move it around the house. You know if I'm in the kitchen cooking and I want to charge my phone but I'd be on the

phone bringing it into the kitchen or take it into the lounge. Yesterday I was in the kitchen and I was like I need to bring it into the lounge and I quite aggressively, I actually have it in my bag, quite aggressively yanked it from the wall. Oh yeah, no. Well you've brought it in with you, okay. As evidence. A little show and tell, okay.

God, it's a massive bag you've got there. It's a tote. It's a tote, sorry, massive tote you've got there. So what happened was the cap. Oh my God. The cap of the plug comes out and it's just left like this with the circuit board revealed and I grabbed this plastic casing. Who knew there was so much involved in a fast charge art? I know

well this is what makes it fast. That shouldn't just come apart like that should it? I know. That needs some glue. Now in my moment I'm not of a sane mind at the moment I'm running on empty. I just grabbed the circuit board. Oh, Hayley, no! You grabbed live wires! I just was like, pulled this plastic bit off, looked at my hand, I was like, oh, and I tried to pull this bit from the,

and I just grabbed all the wires and just pulled it. And I got a shock, not just like that, it went from my nose to my toes. Yeah, man. Where it was like, ooh. We could have turned up to work this morning and you wouldn't have been here. We would have looked for-

Rolly would have started eating me. Find friends. Already. And you would have been at home. Your nose, they would sit on the nose at soft tissue. And then you wouldn't wake up, so we would have had to go around. Vaughan would have broken in

and found you dead on the floor. Dead on the floor. Because I wouldn't go because I don't have a car. Oh, I think you need to live out there. You charged your break-in because I would boot a door off its hinges. No, just that you live down the road and I'd probably want to go to the gym after work. You wouldn't boot those back doors off their hinges. The front door's 145 years old. Do that one.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The borer's done all the hard work there. I just kick it into a dustbin. Yeah, it's like, put a sneeze too hard in it and then tore it full. You were so lucky you didn't kill yourself. I've definitely had like this little zap, you know, renovating it. Oh, sheep. This was like, it felt like a thud through my core.

Yeah. And I just went, ah! And I screamed and then I sort of fell to the floor. I didn't fall to the floor, but I sort of crouched down when you're just like, what just happened? Were you super awake? Were you just like, oh my God. Yeah, you felt like a million bucks? Holy molly.

I know. Guys. I was a kid that was, I was always fiddlin'. Yeah, yeah, tutu-ing. Tutu-ing, like we had an electric carving knife and then mum and dad got a new one and I said, I'll be able to turn that old electric carving knife into a submarine motor.

Is that right? Pfft. Wait, so your parents let you plug that into the wall and make a submarine? Well no, they made me promise I wasn't going to plug it into a wall, but I plugged it into the wall while I had it all apart and then I touched two parts, closed the circuit and it was so hot and I got such a great big shock it melted my fingers together. Yeah! Right, and that's why you can't move your fingers now.

That's why he's always like that. That's why he has to have fingerless gloves. Yeah, because he can't. Yeah, because I can't get the whole glove down on my finger. Yeah, because you can't move your fingers now. That's why he's always like that. That's why he has to have fingerless gloves. Yeah, cause he can't. Yeah, because I can't get the whole glove down on my finger. No, but I did afterwards, man. I was walking around the house like,

it's like I had clear eye drops, and a nasal spray, and I could feel my toes on the floorboards. Sometimes when I'm out in the paddock, I'll just touch the electric fence. I will say, I don't recognise that, Brandon. Maybe you should have actually spent some decent money on this. I did spend decent money, it was nearly 200 bucks.

What? I got a cord as well, and this. And I went to, it was from a tech store, it wasn't from some cheap thing. Oh, Hayley, no. I know, but that's just like, that just pops off now, so she's done. You take that back?

I know, but I don't wanna take it back, cause like, sometimes, what if I even need it again? What if I even need to feel alive again? No, but that's the kind of thing that- Do you know what I mean? I plug it in. That's the kind of thing that gets a nationwide recall for a whole product, you know? I don't know if I get, needs a recall.

Like, that needs a recall. Or is this, you know, Saturday night? You know what I mean? You plug it in. How bad is life that you need to shock yourself into reality? I'm gonna cattle, like, unit to stop cows pushing through fences. Is it gonna be the perfect little pick me up on a Saturday night?

Just to feel alive. Just my squishy bit in my hip. Yeah, but that's not... Okay. That's dangerous. That's plugged into the mains. This thing is too, but it's regulated, you know? You need to go to the store and tell them this has happened

because they need to sort that out. That's not good. I think I will. Anyway. You're alive. Hey, remember how you just gave that Uber driver five stars because you wanted five stars back? Yes.

Let's do that with this podcast. Oh yeah. Review at five stars, tell your friends and we'll do the same for you if you ever need a review for anything. But where are you giving me my five stars? Well, I don't know. Do you own a restaurant or something?

Yes. If you give us five stars on this podcast, tell us where you would like your review and we'll review. Even where we won't even go. We'll just review your thing. I don't want people to know where my restaurant is. I'm doing one of those secret restaurants.

Oh, I was going to say, that's exactly the opposite of how restaurants work.