ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - November 12th 2025

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

How To Win Paper, Scissors, Rock Controversial Drinking Study Top 6 When Did You Last Clean Your Water Bottle? IKEA's Menu Silly Little Poll Spotify Wrapped is Weekly Shannon's Hacks What Did You Oversee on Someone's Phone Bet I Can Guess Your Mum's Name Hayley's Apology Fact Of The Day When Did You Have Your Look Stolen    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The ZM Podcast Network The Flespawn and Haley, big pod. Great things are brewing at McCaffee, the perfect start to every day. Before I tell you what I'm about to tell you, I think most importantly we need to establish as a show in what order the paper, the scissors and the rock go when you're saying let's play paper scissors rock. Paper scissors rock. Some people say rock paper scissors. Why?

Paper scissors rock. Yeah. Why? Because this says rock paper scissors in this article. I think it could be an American thing maybe. Yeah, different regions That article's British. This is British. That's a British article.

There's always paper scissors is rock. It references a study conducted by Australians Western Sydney University. Right now this is a study to always win paper scissors rock. Can I just before we get into how you do this? I've actually been playing

a lot of peanut war recently. Are you talking linking the fingers in a one, two, three, four, I declare a pinnacle war, bow, kiss. This sounds fight. No, mine, what are you doing? Penickel, Pekyll, 1,3? We don't bow kiss fight.

Yeah, because you have to go bow. It's like scary. Wait, I'm sorry. Do I need a bucket? This sounds disgustingly flirty. Yeah, it has been with a man. It's been a flirty, it's been a flirty pinnacle wall. I knew it.

But surely the man would have bigger hands. Yeah, I know, but I'm craftier. All right. I win. I think it's about 50-50. Oh, okay. This is disgusting. Love is dead.

Why do, different. It doesn't sound like it does it. It sounds like it does it. It sounds like it does it. Sounds like we might have a love flare up. Sounds like we've got some, it sounds like someone's rubbing the paddles together and putting it on Love's chest.

No, no, no, no, we can't get through and wearing a bulletproof vest. Sounds like someone's in a hard Ui, that's all I'll say. I have not cracked the Ui. I've just been playing a little bit of peanut cool war. Love is a hard way and you're putting a fat Ui. No, I just enjoy the game. We didn't make one of our own versions of that meme

where the car's drifting off and it's like, Haley's the car and it's there's love is dead and there's drifting on that. The other one is like, is it? Easy now. Right, okay. So let's get on to the study. No, I'm distracted by

why do different regions and have different orders for same papers as rock. Papers is rock. Will you do that on your own time, please? Yeah, that's a personal task. Doesn't matter. Denise? Dr. Denise,

who apparently is a cognitive scientist with nothing better to do. Okay. Said the best way to remain completely, advantage in a game of paper scissors rock stop thinking stop thinking oh i do this i do it because you're like well they've just done scissors yeah so they've got to do something different next or do they know that you think that so then they'll just scissor the whole time you know what

also that she sounds like she's playing defensive i think the key to papers as rock is always being offensive as being on the offense yes now i play offensively like when you use the sword fight with sticks the minute your brother got the forward step on you and you took your backward step yeah you're over man there's toast you've got to play aggressive no I'm attacking yeah for sure but I definitely analyze but that would be the same as looking at a roulette table like if you've ever been in the casino you know they have the last yeah colors and numbers on the screen and you're like oh my god look it's been red red red red red read read read read it's got to be black it's still 50 50 every time

50 like don't even look at it yeah yeah yeah there's an optimal strategy for winning multiple rounds of rock papers as rock a beer as random as unpredictable as possible stop paying attention to what just happened in the last round just feel it in the moment and feel it in the moment and the girlies the producer girlies also have a theory on how to beat a man

as a woman this is not in her study at all is it this no Shannon's theory I always throw paper to a man because men always go rock they think they're strong it's easy and there's just I think there's a lot the science behind it. Don't even have to move you first.

Well, when Haley and I just played, I went paper. Well, maybe that's something to be asleep on. I'm an ally, though. I'm an ally, yeah, I'm a feminist. He's a feminist, and that's thrown you. It's throwing me. Like, as soon as you learn this theory, you will notice it. Like, I've noticed it with anyone now, yeah.

Okay. And then, yeah, if I'm playing a woman, I'll always throw scissors because I feel like she'll... It's funny. She'll sizzle you back, and now we're just having fun. Yeah, it's good time. It's good. It's 11 past six. Next on the show. There is a controversial study that looks at, and I'll say it, the benefits of starting drinking young. Okay, you said controversial.

I feel like we made into warning and say, this is a controversial study. We head to Norway next. Play ZMs, sledge Vaughan and Haley. Now, let me preface this. There's not my words or opinions. I'm just sharing a study from University of Oslo in Norway. Okay. Very expensive city.

Oh, my God. One of the most expensive I've ever been to. Yeah, same. I got a stake and it was a hundred bucks. And you're like, oh. Yeah, that's insane. Wow.

Controversial, they're calling this Norwegian study. The findings of which suggest teenagers who drink heavily with friends earlier in life may earn more money as adults and become more successful. This is a wild study. But the minute you said drinking with friends, is it they're good at networking?

Yeah, kind of. So they tracked 3,000 Norwegians between the 18. of 13 and 31 for 18 years. Long study this one. Okay. Found that those who regularly binge drank in their late teens and 20s tended to have higher education and income levels later in life.

They're saying it is a marker of sociality. So that would have been legal drinking, 18 and above, late teens. So they're not saying underage drinking. No, that's been proven to be bad for the old brainhold. Yeah. Well, I think drinking in general is bad for the brainhole. All right, Dr. Fletcher. Yeah, okay, what do you know?

So, yeah, a mark of sociality basically helping people build networks and, like, integrate socially. However, people, doctors, other professors have come in and been like, the downsides far outweigh, any potential benefit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're better focusing on, like, learning how to be a more confident person or, you know, toastmasters. And that kind of stuff, then. Or networking and becoming so. in other ways that aren't drinking like sports or hobbies

Yeah, yeah, exactly so because they're saying the accidents and violence, liver and heart disease, dementia, cancer and depression that you get from drinking from a young age heavily far outweigh the fact that you might get like a cooler job because you're like, hey man, let's go to the pub because I've been going to go to the pub since I was a teenager. Yeah.

But they were using a number of heavy drinking successful people, including Boris Johnson, who's like a known, yeah, yeah. Buzer. Don't use him as a good example. Don't use him as an example. It says, you know, alcohol reduces inhibitions, encourages social bonding.

I love chat chitipiti. Have you used chat chippy tea? Do you use AI? I love AI. Have you seen this video of Boris Johnson? I love chat to GPT. Do you use AI. Is this? Anyway, I just want to end this by saying

We're certainly not condoning. Drink, in moderation. This is wild. A little bit of a wider context they've given off this study. One in three English children have tried alcohol by age 11. Hey! And they're on the vapes as well.

Have that hit in the vapes? Oh, no. They're going to be screwed when they're adults. Yeah. England actually has the highest rate of childhood drinking amongst 44 countries. jeez because I always

I love those like memes I don't love them but of like some small Thai child in a Thai village like I haven't a dart Oh yeah You know what I'm like

Five or something But the Brits Drinking a lot Anyway Don't take this as rope No You can be successful And not ruin your body

Yes That is my takeaway Oh Dr Sproul over here Oh shit ZM's Flet Ron and Haley Play ZM's FlashWan and Haley From your local community Facebook page This is the Top Six

Okay, today's one of those top six Where I'm leaving the number one spot open for a text Oh, okay Okay So if you've got a suggestion A suggestion for the top six, 966, which is today Today is the top six other things

They should be testing you for If they pull you over while you're driving Because the New Zealand police Are going to have four drugs that they're going to be able to test you for, and then if you test positive for any of those, they'll be able to detect 25 other substances, which I assume will also be illegal substances?

I'd say so, yeah. Okay, so I've just looked at the Australian Alcohol and Drug Foundation website, because they already do roadside testing in Australia in some states. So cannabis, a random roadside saliva test can detect THC for around 12 hours after people who use it infrequently or not often, but if you use it a lot, 30 hours. So if you're a daily Marijuana user, 30 hours.

Like a sleepy gummy. Versus smoking it. Because smoking it, like, it's all up in your. But if they're testing for THC and you've only had CBD, who knows. Oh, yeah, true. The other drugs, you said they're testing for meth, cocaine, MDMA. They can be in saliva test for two days. So people that are going to like, that are using this over the weekend

are going to, what, be busing to work on a Monday and Tuesday Rightly so. Sorry, I did MDMA on the weekend. Yeah. But like that's scary when you think those people are driving to work anyway on a Monday Tuesday, now pre-these tests. Well, because it's obviously still in your system, so no you shouldn't be. Yeah.

Man, there's already a pretty bloody good number one coming out of way. Okay, good stuff. So the police have said this is going to start happening. It's actually another good one too. Are you going to be replacing your whole top six now with listener? Listener suggestions. I'm replacing number five. So rolling out gradually until April, when it's happening all over the places,

did I read that correctly? Did you read that? Yes. That's correct. No, I don't know. I'm just agreeing with the year. You're switched on an individual. I'm just changing some of my top six.

I'm going to get my facts on that one while you do that, Vaughn. Yeah. I'm just listening. I'm just here enjoying it. Okay, this doesn't make the list, but someone said they should test if their child support balance is overdue. That's good stuff. That's good stuff. Somebody else said, testing if you've got an IQ of over 6-7.

Six-seven. Nice, that's good. By the way, I successfully destroyed that in my house. Have you? The kids have stopped using 6-7. They went to use it the other day, and I could see them go, and then I looked, knowing that they were going to trigger me to start, and they stopped. So that's how you do it for them.

Yeah, I read an article. They're over people taking the person doing it, so it's becoming uncool. Okay, so government, this is how the rollout will happen. It will start testing in Wellington next month. month before beginning to scale up from April until coverage is nationwide by mid next year. Wow. A little

bit of saliva. A little bit of saliva. They're just literally going to swab your tongue. I use a tongue scraper. What? So they're going to say, nice tongue when they swab my own. Oh, yeah, nice tongue. Nice tongue. Top six other things they should test you for when driving are number six on the list, sausage roll pastry flakes in your lap.

Oh, yeah. Guilty. They're always there. Guilty. That's where they are. until you next hop out. Yeah. And even then when you give yourself a brush off, there's going to be a couple of flaky bits of sausage roll pastry left. Yeah?

Yum. Number five on the list of the top six other things they should test you for while driving. This is from Jake who said the volume of blue Vs consumed in the last 24 hours and how many bottles are that are rattling around on the floor are you there? Looking about. Yeah.

That would be. It's a good one. I had a V for the first time the other day. Did you? Not for the first time. For the first time at a very long time. Did you? Yeah.

Because I don't drink energy drinks either But when I do I was like They go I notice what they do to you I had a red ball semi recently Oh no It wasn't even this year

It was last year Heart flutters Pretty bad Yeah And it's just overwhelming The flavour is like Oh yeah Totally

And number four on the list Of the top six Other things They should test you for When driving They should ask you Your favourite colour Because if it's purple

I don't think you should be driving You should get an infringement Yeah That's an infringement Yeah And if it's orange I'll let you off with a warning, but get a bit of favourite colour. I'm embarrassed for you.

Yeah, yeah, of course. And if it's black or white, I don't know, that's that, are you A-I? Yeah. Yeah. Blue? Perfectly acceptable. Green? Of course. Green, please, drive it 110 kilometres an hour.

Please, I'll give you an extra 10. Yeah, yeah. That's fine. It's okay. Oh, you love it. Yeah, yeah. Yellow, I am going to ask you to have, slow right down, please. A purple, off the road. Off the road.

Actually, I'm going to take your vehicle. Yeah, I'm crushing your car. Crush it. Number three on the list of the top six other things they should test you for while driving. If your eyes are bloody painted on. You pulled right in front of someone there. Your eyes bloody painted on. Number two on the list of the top six other things they should test you for while driving.

If you know your lefts and rights without looking at your hands. No! They say, and which way's left? And if you put your hand up... I've just imagined my hand going up. Yeah, but you've paused. You've delayed too much. Yeah, you paused.

You've caused the delay. And number one on the list of the top six Other things they should test you for While driving, I didn't get a name of this text Okay Just came in, let me get a number Because they deserve a shout out 3-3-3-2 is what it ends with

Okay The top six things they should test you for You're driving short man syndrome With the side of white privilege Oh yeah, it's good to test Yeah Very easy test I drive with what can only be described as white arrogance

And now I'm behind the wheel of a Ford Ranger I'm the king of the road You are Flicking your lights at people Yeah Yeah yeah yeah we love a bit of that That's the A-Sop six Hit it

No Don't tell me when to hit it I'll hit it when I want to Hit it Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley Experts say Even if your water bottle is used Just to store water

Nothing else no juice No nothing but nothing No sneaky wines You have to wash it What? What? No no Not the washing part.

Who ever puts, like, when, well, no, some people put juice in, like, electrolyte mixes and... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, electrolyte mixes. That's a lot of juice. That's a lot of juice. It collects germs from your mouth, your hands, the environment. Bacteria mold can grow. It can give you stomachates, itchy throats,

exasperate allergies or asthma. Put mold in your body, it's disgusting. So I was reading this article, and then I was like, when did I last clean my water bottle and then I was like well the answer to that is when it was delivered when I bought it which is when so what does the article say how often should you clean it it says one moment please call out okay yeah give it a once a week I reckon give it a soapy water wash every day oh piss off every day once a week you have no immune system Deeper clean

Every other week Oh no no So once a week a deeper clean Every day a soapy water wash Every day definitely If you were doing the dishes Just put it in the sink Rinse it and you're done

Also saying if you have water in there Because I drink lots of it So it's not sitting in there long But they're saying every few hours If it's sat in there for a few hours You want to be replacing the water Oh, okay. And then one thing that they concluded,

never drink if there's visible mould. Now, you remember my last one, eh, got real bad. Yeah, I remember I ran a paper towel in the kitchen around my, the mouth hole bit. We're still talking about water bottles? It was manky. It was manky. Yeah, and I leave my water in here sometimes for a while.

I can't find when I bought this, but it was definitely like... It's been at least a month or two. At least a month or two. Yeah. Yeah, I'd say two months. bad with my gym one because it just sits in my bag. So when did you last clean your daily one? Last week.

Yeah, I actually, because there was accusations that I had a dirty straw. Oh yeah, you've got the straw and you do still now. No, no, no, no, I scrubbed it out. It's not, it's because I like nibble. This is like tiny nibbles. Nibbles. Right, so what you're doing is ingesting plastic.

I'm in internal straw. Okay. Do you sniffing your straw? And I'll say it smells a bit moldy. Really? Yeah, for sure. but dampy, mouldy, like an old towel. Producer Girlies, I need to know as well, because they sip on the large water bottle lays every day. When was the last time you cleaned?

I keep mine at work. So never. Yep. Okay. Producer Car one. My like Cadrona one that we all have sits on our coffee table, and I use it like every day, but I just refill it. Yeah, so that's awesome.

So you're not claiming. Don't drag Cadrona into this. Yeah, actually. The fine people of Cadrona Alpine Resort. It's such a good cup. It's a great. Those are great. They don't muck around. Yeah, but guys, there's still, and I'm sorry, Cadrona, I don't mean to sully thy name.

I'm not, I'm just saying, as the water bottle, it still needs to be clean. Yeah, but that's not Cadrona's fault. They've gifted you a lovely water bottle, and that's on you to clean it. It just feels like I don't need to clean it as much because the straw is silicon, so I'm like, oh, the mold would move through it. What am I cleaning? It only has water in it. Water does the clean it. I'm sorry they're saying quick daily wash. Yeah. Are you a scientist? Didn't think so. Have I been sick recently?

No. No, that's why, because I think it's good for your immunity to have a little bit of the dirt, a little bit of the mould, a little bit, just keeps your body on top of these sorts of things. Yeah, says the man that has been constantly sick with Barley Belly for the last two weeks. Oh, yeah. You've never healed. You've never healed. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Haley.

Play ZM's Fleshorn and Haley. We're on the precipice of bedside tables. Ease. Huh? Ease. Like, that's the whole thing of Akear. It's easy. E-A-S-E.

Yeah. I mean, there won't be any IKEA in my house. It would stick out like a sore thumb of it. It's not going to be. It's not your asset. But you can get some utensils. I think my table, my dining table is from the 1700s. I feel like, you know, you wouldn't stand on it, tell you what.

No, it's rotting. Yeah, it's held together by the borer holding hands. Well, IKEA is imminent. December 4th. Yeah, well. The doors will swing right open. Shit. Free Christmas, I'm not going to go.

This is this in 2018, by the way. We've been waiting for this for seven years. Yeah, I drove past it the other day. Look, it's giant. It's huge. So they are really nailing the launch press as well because yesterday they announced the full menu because I just thought it was meatballs,

but apparently there's a full menu. Famous for the meatballs. Have they kiwi-fied it? Like, have they given us some secret? There are some sort of things in there with a bit more of a kiwi flavor, but cold dishes. You've got a poke-bowl with salmon,

prawn plate and a plain croissant. I'll take a prawn plate. Oh yeah, not a cocktail, I prefer a... Not a cocktail. You don't do a problem? A creamy sauce is yuck to me. Oh, the 1,000 are interesting. Yeah, it's not for me when it comes to my prawns.

So thin breads and sandwiches, there's a marinated salmon wrap, egg mayo sandwich, tomato and cheese sandwich, chicken mayo sandwich, a vegetable hot dog wrap, croissant with ham and cheese and a croissant with tomato and cheese. It's not where I'd want to eat, but... Nah, it is... It is... I have been into Akears overseas. They are so huge that if you don't eat before you go, you may get lost and die of hunger.

Because they have that, what is that maze to get through the store? It's insane. To weave you through everything, eh? Salads, there's more. Thai beef salad, pumpkin salad with hummus. Greek salad, tomato brocotongi, brocuccini salad. Potato salad and a coleslaw. How many, have they released the prices?

I don't have prices. Yeah. The menus too. I know. The menu's too big. The bloody cheesecake factory. Hot dishes are in the subcategory of breakfast. We have a hot breakfast, small, medium, large, and also a vegetarian breakfast, small medium.

Well, they have eggs, scrambled eggs. Yeah, sounds like that. I've got to keep going because there's so much more menu to go through. Okay, sorry. Hot dishes for lunch and dinner. Salmon fillet. Yeah. With a mash, bean mix and sauce.

Yuck. Why are we eating? Salmon hot salmon. I don't want to eat salmon anywhere apart from home in a really nice restaurant. Okay, if I said to you, we're going to go to freedom furniture, but just in the foyer, we're going to have some scrambled eggs. You'd think that was the weird. Like if I said, let's go to Kmart, just by the trolleys, we're just going to have a salmon salad. Pop to nude.

No offense to Kmart. I'm not eating fish from you. I'm not eating fish from you. And I love you. I love salmon and I love Kmart, but the two shuff not me. But isn't it weird? Like, why do we go to these places and eat a lot? It's so weird.

It's like, I don't know. Plant balls and meatballs. Yeah. There's plant-based pieces, whatever that is. There's meatballs with mash and chips. There's a meatball medley. Is there the Swedish meatballs? I guess those are the meatballs, right?

See, we've got to try the meatball. New Zealand lamb pie with mash peas and lingon berry jam. Okay. Plant-based pie, New Zealand Hokie with chips, peas, lemon and tartia sauce. Would I do fish and chips that I care? Why is the menu so extensive? A pasta and napole sauce. Then there's hot snacks.

There's a pie. There's a plant-based pie. There's a meatball sub. There's a plant-ball sub. There's a plant, hot dog, pork, hot, pong. Something, something. Okay, so lots of meatballs. Then there's soups.

Then there's cold beverages. then there's hot beverages and then there's puddings. Can you get a beer? No. There's biscuits and pastries and there's frozen dessert. Wow, so this is like a full restaurant. It's too much food. It's a lot.

The Swedish restaurant will be open seven days a week from 9 a.m. to 8 p.m. with a breakfast offer from 9 to 11 daily in the bistro. Swedish food muck will operate daily from 10 a.m. to 9 beer. Oh, we'll try the meatballs. I'll try the meatballs once. I'm a vet. No. I'm ignoring.

I'm not going hot salmon. It's. I'm not going to say. We're not having salmon at Ikea. We're not having a hot salmon in Ikea before buying a chair. No one knows salmon better than the Nords. Yeah, maybe you shouldn't be not, you should wait until you eat it to judge. It's not going to be coached by a Nord.

It's when it cooked by bloody, you know, Susan from up the road. Yeah, I'm not going to job on. Play Zim. Fletch Forne and Haley. Silly little pole Silly little pole Silly little pole Sillie little pole

Only answer If you met your partner on a dating app Oh I mean it would be a comment as muck now People in like long marriages Would have met on dating apps I remember like back in the day it was It was embarrassing

Yeah shame You'd make up a lie Yeah Are you embarrassed to say how you met your partner If you met on a dating it, 80% of people said no. Yeah. 20% of people said yes. More normal now. Normaler.

Far more normal. Normaler. Depending on the app. There's still some out there apps. Yeah. Like if you manage to meet someone on Ways, for example, the map app. I don't think you should be embarrassed, but I want to hear the story. I saw someone on Ways at the weekend and they were centre. Their emoji was centre and I was like, how do I want

to be a centre? Mine's Master Chief from Halo. Can you choose your emoji? If you earn enough points by reporting enough things. Yeah, because I reported a police car and at the end of the drive it said you did real well with your drive. You have 46 other drivers? I reported a broken down truck yesterday.

I love why. It's better than Google Maps. Way better. Yeah. And you just go, report hazard and now you can speak and you just tell it what you saw it. Right, and it will decipher it. Yeah, and it's good because it tells you where the speed cameras are. Do you think I'm going wrong with my dating life at the moment because I'm on Pinterest so much

looking for men? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Because normally other men that like those kind of day calls a gay home interior, guys. Yeah, I know. That's why it's not working. Well, some feedback on it. Ashley said, nope, no embarrassment here.

That's modern love finding right there. Tinder for the win. Tinder for the window. Tinder for the window. That would be a good silly little pile for people, where have they had the most success dating app-wise, Tinder, Bumble. And it'd be a numbers thing, though, we know.

Well, let's not even put Grindr in, because if we're just talking straight hookups, you're going to blow us away at all. Yeah. I mean, Tinder has some numbers, so Tinder would probably win. Dan said not too keen to say anything's wrong with the apps, but it was 3am on a Tuesday morning on yellow Facebook. Yellow Facebook, and he says if you know, you're not.

Grindr. Grindr. That's the homosexual dating app. I was on a work trip and had to be at the airport at 7am. And I can tell you about Dan, there looks to be a significant other in the profile picture. Right. So that's cute. That's cute.

Or they've got a free-to-play agreement and, you know, whatever. Adam said, we met on Tinder around the time it was embarrassing, but now it's the norm. It's embarrassing to say you met someone in a bar now. How weird's that? Yeah, it actually kind of is weird now, eh? Madeline, there's a name that's getting said a lot lately. Thanks to Lily Ellen.

Lily Ellen, no, not McCann. Oh, sorry, thought she'd pop back home. No. Do you see that crazy girl that's been stalking the McCarns? Because she's like, I'm your daughter. Oh, yeah, she's running around for a while. You're like, you're bat shit crazy. Yeah.

Yeah, and have they been going like restraining orders against her and everything? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Madeline, not McCann, nor David Harbour's mistress. Okay. Nor Sami. Nor Sami, nor the character from the Roald Alborg. I'm almost proud to be an OG Tinder date hookup that lasted the distance. Like, it's a humble brag, in my opinion.

Our oldest daughter just turned 10. Tinder baby. It's Tinder babies. A 10-year-old Tinder baby? Are you kidding me? That's crazy, yeah. That's the contributor of the day for Sillard of Lepaughan. They've won themselves a Mick Cafe voucher. Yeah, all thanks to Mick Cafe. Keep the show on the road. Drive through Mick Cafe for your morning fix.

Congratulations, we'll send out a $50. Mick Cafe voucher. Juliet said meeting someone on the app still has a special element of coming across each other at the right time. Yeah, that's true. That's cute. Hawks says, met on Tinder in 2014. Back then I was totally embarrassed about it Probably didn't openly say how we met a lot

Until our wedding five years later When I was salibrant mentioned us swiping right But now it's a laugh, 11 years Two mortgages and a kid Yeah, why not? Yeah, Tinder mortgage. Tinder mortgage. Tinder mortgage, yeah. They hit different.

Tinder divorces. Just around the corner. Emily said, not embarrassed But I wish we had a more exciting story on how we met. We'll do it, make it up. I just get them on board and do a brainstorm. That's just the way. it is now, like, yeah.

Make your life exciting. How you met doesn't have to be exciting. Yeah. Well, this person said, please don't share my name if you share this. My husband and I met on Tinder at the age of 17. Wait a minute. Yeah, because you've got to be 18 years. Lying.

So they were lying. Both lying. Both lies. There's a couple of lies, lies, lies, pants on fires. This is a relationship built on lies. Built on a foundation of lies. 11 years later, we'd be married for five. And we still tell people we met through a mutual friend.

Only a handful of people actually know how we met and none of our family's No. Wow. Yeah, because you were to tell you mum, you were a kid on Tinder. Yeah. Chloe said, I'm not embarrassed, but my husband is told his mates we met in a pub in Hawks Bay. Oh, yeah. Now, that's offensive because we live in Tauronga, the more...

We live in the Bay of Plenty. Yeah, right. You live in the Bay of Hawks. Yeah. 2015, 2016 was peak Tinder in Wellington, says Alice. Collected great dating stories and then met my now husband. Oh, great. Together for seven years, says Anna, and married for one and a half, met on Bumble, but had

seen each other around through work so we just used that as our meeting point for stories and so we met through work. Just felt weird at the time but now it seems more common. We've committed too hard to the lie that we met through work so that we're happy to stay with it. Start to believe your own lie. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, for still a little poll, we asked are you embarrassed to say how you meet your partner if you met on a dating

app and 80% of you said no. Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley. Spotify, not my music listening app of choice. I'll tell you, I heart radio is where I go for all my music needs. Yeah, KPI's there. You can also listen to the show live anywhere on the iHeart radio as well it is the your preset there's been an update yeah there has been and the i heart and then you can put your little presets up there and i one could be for example zm live radio broadcast yes yeah and one could be beside it it could be

the flitch one haley podcast oh i bought a perfect combo and then you could put sex out life next to that yeah lovely and then add whatever you want it's all you need yeah that's all you need yeah um and then my new podcast white guy speaking Man I think there's actually already enough of those No, many more Okay, right

So on Spotify I do have Spotify Yeah I'm a bit of a slap Like that You know what I mean Oh, hey I sort of slag around a bit

Oh dear Are we still talking about Music Listening apps Or are you just sort of letting us have an insight into your life No I've just gone on to a new topic But back to music listening apps Hi-Hart Radio

Spotify's got a new feature now where it will give you a week in listening Kind of like Spotify Rapp, which everyone looks forward to, which, by the way, you have the date for it. It's out. Always the first week of December, so we're three weeks away. Not long for Spotify Rapped

where you are confronted with what you've listened to on that year. Now they have a weekly wrap-ups. You go on your, if you go home and you go on your little face, and then there's a new tab called Listening Stats, and it will say this week, for example, my top artist was The Beatles, and my top song was a Metallica number. I've had a rogue week.

No, that's because you and your parents had a little party. Had a little sing-along. But the week, before that, my top song was Where is My Husband? Oh, Ray? From Ray? That's a great song. And before that, it was Kings of Leon, Kings of Leon, Kingsal-Lon, Kings-A-Long. Because you and I have both had a Kings of Leon Renaissance.

Only by the night. It's flawless. I think it's one of my top ten favorite albums. And then we just put it on one day, and I've just been listening to it all the gym. Mine's because it's always on the TV too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'll just loop it at the gym. So that's my top artist in my top song, Cold Desert.

One of you looked at yours? Yeah, it goes back like a month. Right? Yeah, because it's a new feature And it will keep doing this. My top artist this week is Blondie. Now I'm not sure why. Heart of Gras.

Didn't we play that on a podcast record? Oh, it's because I was dancing with my family to Blondie. Right, okay. Part of glass. But my top song is so easy to fall in love Olivia Ditt. Mine's just all Olivia Dene and Sabrina Carpenter lately, guys. Yeah, because you're in a surprise. Oh, my God.

Livia Dine's album, top to tell, over and over. Do we like this? I like, I can. like at the end of the year it's a surprise I think it's too drip-feedy for me I love like listening with abandon and however I want to do

and then at the end of the year being like what I listened to that song how many times or that album or because it's always a bit rogue it does it does give you other rogue stats like I listen to Kings of Leon my favourite artist for the last week had a new EP out and I was in it says I was one of the first thousand people in the world

to listen to it thousand. Are you into the new EP of Kings of Leon? Is it good? The first, yeah, the first song's not bad. Okay, well, that's that raving review. I mean, it's not... It's not only by the night, which we could listen to on end. Oh, so this is when we were away on our genuine friends trip to Bali. Yeah, because that playlist really stuffed it up.

That was when my top artist was Kings of Leon because it was my... Phone. iPad that we plugged into the thing. And Haley and I were playing that album a lot. We listened, 40% of entire listening came from the Genuine Friends Roady playlist. It's a great playlist, great playlist. I mean, we had it on from Dust to Dawn. Yeah.

Well, it's in your, it's in your profile. Yeah, click on your photo and then it's their listening stats and check out what you've been listening to. Play ZM's Fletch, Worn and Haley. Play ZM's Fleshworn and Haley. Yeah, well, it's time. If you see a faded sign at the side of the road that says 15 miles to a Shan is hack.

Oh, we're bit fun. Shannon's hat, baby! Yeah, we were a beat or two a head there. Just a beat, it's all right. Well, it really should get into the producers, into the studio and record a proper intro. We always are, you could change it up. Producer Shannon joins us for a Shannon's hack.

If you're new to the show, she pitches us hacks quite often that she climbs. And quite often they are just terrible. She's had one five-star hack in the history. Most of them average, say 1.5, too. Which earned her the intro? Yes. Another five-star hack may see the intro Actually Recorded Proficion

My favourite will still be When you don't have your shower jandles At the gym What you do is you duct tape on some sanitary pads Because for some reason you forgot your jandals But you bought your pads and tapes Yeah, you know it Okay, today's heck Shannon

So we're approaching Christmas season And you know we were talking about it this week People are getting their Christmas trees up A lot of people do it the first week of December Okay if you're going to say drive out into a forestry block and cut down a small tree, I'm going to stop you there. No, it's a decorating hack. Because personally, one of the parts of a Christmas tree I find the hardest is getting the

topper onto a tree. It's all wiggly whenever you've got the top. It is. It's limp as. It goes limp if you want a really nice angel or a star. Mine's a starburst. Beautiful. It kind of flop.

A starburst, like a lolly. Yeah. Just wrapped up. A big wrapped up starbursts. It's just a normal sign. I just hang fruit bursts on my tree. Oh, nice. But yeah, so like if you get one of the fancy ones, they often have those spiral things.

I'm just talking your average star or angel. My hack for you today is to get a claw clip. A lot of girlies have these lying around their house. We use them to flick up our hair. Tape it or just blue tack or some adhesion to the back of your angel or your star. You can now claw clip this to your tree. It is not permanent. It's not going to ruin anything.

But you could then switch it out as much want. The tree's still floppy though, Shannon. But we've now got a mess. mechanism to attach it to it, kind of sturdies it up. No, I think it would be too heavy, that would go like that. It could be top heavy. Wouldn't you do it more to like the clip it to the base of the tree, tree? Yeah.

What I like about those angels that you buy the top is some of them like clones and they come down quite a bit. Someone says, I have used this hack for a couple of years. Capital letters, capital letters. The claw clip is back to capital letters, genius. Oh, okay. My star is back to capital letters way too heavy and collapsed the top of my tree. Not anymore. Okay, so they've just...

We've got an advocate. Dismiss the top heavey. If it's too... If the top of the pine tree is too wibbly wobbly, just knock it off. Yeah, yeah, totally. Fatten it up. Yeah, fatten it up. We need a short chodey sort of top.

I've never had a real tree, so I'm just thinking the plastic ones. They normally just give you that one spike. I bend mine in half for the wire. Clip it on. It's a... I cut a hole in my ceiling just so it would fit. Yeah, I know. I can seal your insulation.

Yeah, it was so bad. You know, yeah, I didn't want to bend it over, that's all. Someone's just text through that they have hung fruit bursts from their Christmas tree and they mouse it everywhere. We do candy can't. How hot did your tree get that a fruit burst would melt? They weren't using LED bulbs. All their...

They were using candles. Straight candles. Oh, yeah, you're asking for trouble. Well, okay, I mean, my only problem is I'm going to see the claw clip. No. You're just clipping it in, and I'd recommend getting, you know, like... A green one or a brown or something. Yeah, but if you had one just...

just laying around, I've seen people doing this online, it does actually look quite good. Okay, there's another person, claw clip hack, is legit, give it five stars. Somebody else, the fruit burst person said they went away for some holidays and left their tree out there. Got really hot in their house and they melted out. Okay, so don't hang lollies from your tree. I'm going to give it a four.

Yeah, for me, it's like I've got to glue the star to the thing, I've got to do this, I'm going to do that. And then, or I don't use claw clips, so you only want to have. have is pink and that's all I can imagine is this pink sort of tacky. Yeah, yeah. You can get them super cheap though. I'm talking you can get them at like a dollar or anywhere. Yeah, like a dollar two dollars. So you could just dedicate

one to it. But for the ease and the cost of a hack, I'm just saying find a claw clip laying around. It's a good idea. And you will not have a floppy tree. If you just want to sort of reverse the whole hack at the moment for six dollars at Kmart, there is a claw clip that looks like a Christmas tree. Oh, now

you're talking. With Christmas tree on Christmas Christmas tree. No, I'm saying put it in your hair. your hair and then have one on the tree you can have a sort of duality. Yeah, love that. It's a four from me. Yeah, I'll go four as well and the only reason it's not a five is so many people already do it.

Oh, okay, lack of innovation. Lack of innovation. Hang on the text machine's rioting. The text machine. Okay, well let's spend some time on the text machine. Well, they just want to if they want to give her five stars. But it's, it's the people who, on the text machine a bit, I saw that some of that person's, I saw this

hack two years ago and I've been using it. I'm taking, yeah, I'm not, I can't go five. It's not a fresh hack, Shannon. It's not fresh, there's a lack of originality here. It's fresh to you. It's giving plagiarism. Somebody wants to add it and say, does anybody else wrap their Christmas lights around a handy paper towel roll?

The tube. I use a big... No, I lump him in a ball and say, good luck next year, beer. Yeah, yeah, future hangly, screwed. Yeah, right, okay. So, okay. I'm going to stick with my four. I'm singing with four.

I'm singing with four. It's good to find the karaoke version so we can sing the outro, but I just have to sit through this ad because I still aren't made of a YouTube premium. Now this company's getting free radio advertising as well. No one could identify what company that was. Okay. Okay, so here we go.

If you see a faded sign at the side of the road that says four stars peddle or shan attack. That was messy. Shannon's has a baby. It was a mess. It was a mess. Four stars, not bad. Yeah, well done, Shannon.

It's good. I'm putting up my Christmas tree December 1st, so I might utilise this. Yeah, play ZM's Fletchbourne and Haley. Get involved. Give us a call over $100 ZDM, text 969696. What did you oversee on someone's phone? Now, this. I love this.

This has gone viral because someone was at a Jonas Brothers concert. I will say chaperoning. Yeah. We've got a dad. Okay. Then probably with his gals. making sure they're having a good night. While the Jonas Brothers are on stage,

absolutely having it, there is a man on his phone reviewing a CV. The CV of a man named Scott Kelly. You can see it. It's a PDF, Scott Kelly, resume, 2025, and this man's just reviewing it. This has gone viral now, like everyone's getting behind it,

being like, good luck, Scott Kelly. Even the Jonas brothers have commented on this post. It's so funny that he was just sat there doing his, Mahi for the day basically I've just got these interviews I've just got to get through this and yeah were you saying Coca-Cola's gone behind it

Pepsi there was a screen cap of all of the comments from like major brands on it right so like class dojo is like an app where you literally keep an eye on like your kids it's a communication app

Scott Kelly got 1,000 dojo points in class one time yeah right Sonic driver and Scott Kelly's impact on company culture is unreal. My problem, Expedia, our company would literally not exist if it wasn't for Scott Kelly. I love this. My problem is, they don't even know this guy. What is Scott Kelly's a criminal?

Yeah, you don't know. Maybe New York said Scott Kelly was born with it. Well, I also think maybe, you know, Scott Kelly's generic enough that we, you know. Yeah. We don't know the actual Scott Kelly. There's not enough context around it. Well, either way, he's getting a job, right? Scott Kelly was born with it from Maybellene.

That is so good. Imagine if there was you, and then, like, all you're doing is applying for jobs. You know, people out there at the moment are applying for so many jobs. It's tough out there. Suddenly, just because one person filmed over a shoulder and there was your CV, this guy was looking at. You're this viral thing. You're like, I'm the real Scott Kelly. If there is someone at a concert or on the plane or anywhere with their phone, I'm looking.

I'm looking. And I've been on so many flights recently. The moment you land, anyone's off airplane mode and they go to text, be like, hey, just landed, because we all do. Yeah. Man, my eyeballs are straight there. And remember last time, this year, a little bit earlier, was a woman organizing some R-18 activities for money. Yes.

And it involves acts. She seemed fully booked, too she? She was fully booked. She was saying, I'm sorry, I can't do Tuesday. I'm only Thursdays for that particular activity, sir, if you would like me to do that to you. We barely mentioned it. Here come the texts. Okay.

Let's start off with some. I saw my partner's phone and a little message popped up from his other girlfriend saying, hey, baby, what are you up to today? Kiss, kiss, kiss, kiss. Yes, because, because, because. Obviously, that didn't go down well. No. I was driving home from work one afternoon, and I pulled up to the lights, and the driver of the van on my right was watching pornographic materials on his way home. You've got to remember sometimes that the buses and the trucks can sing into your car.

They're higher. Yeah, they are higher. Rachel said I saw their bank balance. It was over $2 million. We were on a bus, and they had no shoes on. You really can't judge a book by its cover, can you? Two million dollars? Just in a bank.

Now, was there a minus in front of it? Yeah, yeah, because I can show you that. Yeah, me too. Also, were they from one of those countries where like $2 million is like $100? Yeah, maybe we're on an Indonesian banking app, you know, East Balinese. Okay, 0,800 dial Z at M is our number. We'd love to hear from you this morning. Text through 9-696.

Wanted you oversee on someone's phone. Play ZM's Bletchhorn and Haley. Well, we want to know what you've seen on somebody's phone. Have you been peaking? A man has been spotted checking a CV of a man called Scott Caller. and a Jonas Brothers concert It's gone viral online Everyone's obsessed with this whole thing

They are We're definitely going to need A Scott Kelly follow up on this, aren't we? There are so many messages It's so good Anonymous Anonymous, what did you see on somebody's phone

Hi So I work in admin In a daycare And I had a parent Come in Asking about her Overdue fees And if I can give her a desk

and I said, no, I can't. Like, you need to pay it in full. It's over due. She proceeded to ask me to help her pay this via her online banking. So she logged into her banking and handed me her phone. She had 80,000 in one account and 42 in the other. She just sitting there. But she wanted a discount.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she wanted a deal. Yeah, right. Okay, so you managed to pick that, okay. Yeah, I bet. Did you say anything? Like, I think you're good to pay this now, Hon. I was just shocked.

Yeah. I would have transferred myself a little admin fee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a lot more money than me, and I still have to pay my fees. Yeah. Anonymous, thank you. So many messages. I over saw a guy on a plane scrolling through his saucy photos of him and another guy,

sitting there all smirking and excited, a little homemade photography. I walked up behind a mum who was at her child swimming, listen to tell her how well her child was doing. Yep. And as I was just about to tap her on the shoulder, I looked over And she was searching breast implants on her phone We should have them done. Didn't want to embarrass her, so I kept walking.

Kid wasn't that good anyway, so... Yeah, okay. But I want follow-up, did mum get a nice fresh set of honkers? Yeah, because you would have seen that... Oh no, because mum's not in the togs. She might have been in a jacket. She'll float better, won't she? That's so good for flotation.

Yeah. Yeah. Somebody said, I saw a picture of someone's member. Oh, yeah, shall we say. Yeah. The member belonged to a famous all black. I was sitting behind a girl who was dating him. I had a massive crush on her from high school.

I was sitting behind her the absolute member on this man. It made me think, oh, there's many levels to manhood, and I stand not a chance. We're going to need to know who this is. I've already asked. Not for on air, of course. Not for our own personal. Okay.

Our own personal satisfaction. Okay. It's going to be one of the locks, isn't it? They're tall. They're really tall. Oh. The locks. Oh, look a flank.

A flanker? Maybe I might. Okay. When I worked in hospital, I don't know if I can read that one. When I worked in hospo, we were trying to help a customer load the Grab One website to get their voucher. Oh, yeah. We accidentally went on to another page and she had how to do backdoor. Oh, okay.

They were in their 60s. Wow. 2025. Wow. Okay, that's progressive. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Haley. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Haley. What you've peeped on somebody's phone.

Yeah. There are some great messages coming in. There are. Sat next to a little girl coming back from Rartonger a few weeks ago. And her mum had given her her phone. And the little girl was looking through the photos. I saw a startling clip of mum wearing a tiny cropped-up t-shirt walking around the house, sort of parading,

obviously making this video to send to somebody. Oh, wow, okay. Was she a Brazilian new mask? Well, yes, yes, she was. That was a little bit of detail I could see. Light eyes? Don't do it, don't do it. Super, super religious, older guy.

Holier than now with his opinion. Sir I'm watching bondage porn on us fine. Hey. Hi. Hippocrite. Hippercite. Hippercite. I used to work in photo printing and the woman needed help getting photos off her phone.

Then she realized what photos were amongst the ones she wanted and said my husband's away at the moment. I still can't unsee that. Oh, dear. Years later. years later years later still printed out a copy

for themselves though didn't they but you know as you do I had to clear off an ex-employee's laptop there were nudes in there that he'd labelled as me

they 100% were not him they were not his builder at all and he had a wife and kids so who was he sending those two oh goodness little catfish sitch um I discovered My mum was having an affair after spotting a conversation she was having on her phone.

I'd already confronted and asked her about it months prior. She lied and told me nothing was happening. After seeing the messages, she confessed. She was with my dad for 30 years, five years in. Five years and they're still now the best of friends. Okay. There's so many of those messages, like people getting caught cheating by their partner who's looking over their shoulder. Yeah.

It's like, how brazen. Brazen! Brazen behavior. Um, brr... Oh, okay, I had the Billy Irish concert I was GA standing near the front Well, the need to brag that you got the GA You got the GA tickets

The girl in front of me was playing Subway Surfer on her phone Yeah And then when Billy came on and started singing Ocean Eyes She decided it was time to send a text And break up with her boyfriend Oh shit, that's an ADHD Pink Pink Pink Pink Pink Subway 7

You're not, you're at a concert Like that's, is that not enough simulation Or is it too much? Did you read the minor 10 one? No, no, no, please. When I worked at Mitretena, a lady asked me to plug her phone in to charge while she shopped. The screen lit up and the text said, see you soon. The is in the top drawer, all charges if you want to start without me.

Wow. Well, yeah, right. She meant, obviously, it might a 10 meant the power drill. Yeah. Yes, if you want to get started and do the pilot holes, and I'll be back, I'll come in with the screws to finish them off. Exactly. It'll be ready to go. You are pre-reading some texts that won't make it on here.

That one's really, I'm just trying to say how I can get it all across, but not get it all across. Do you know what I mean? Okay. Which text is this? Okay, well, should we finish. Anonymous. Okay, hang on, hang on. Oh, where there's other ones.

Okay. Somebody said, an old man in a business attire was scrolling through Instagram and zooming in on models, bits and pieces. He was sitting next to his adult daughter who kept saying, Dad, that's disgusting. I had my headphones in but no music playing just so I could listen in Oh do you know Pro tip now

If you've got the new If you've got Airpods Pro You can turn them on to Make them basically like Listening devices Hearing aids Yeah and like hearing aids Oh like increase sound

So you can just basically Turn your music off And just be listening to conversations I've had to get these bad boys I love an eve's drop Someone said I had my phone Connected to the TV I've shown my family

A whole lot of photo pictures From my holiday I got a notification and I accidentally like tried to swipe it away but clicked on it and brought up an unsolicited dick pick in front of the whole family from a guy I hadn't talked to in months

This nearly happened to me the other day with Patsy Ann My mum was asking me what my flights were Next year for my holiday And I was like oh yeah She said oh show me the flights because she was having a look And I passed her the phone Nick minute I hear a ding My heart drops

I'm like heart racing And my mum just goes a flick She said won't look at that She saw the preview though This is why you always hold your phone when you show people things Yeah you do Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Haley We welcome, I can guess your mum's name

We welcome Michaela to Better Can Guess Your Mums' name Good morning, Michaela Good morning Hello Vaughn has five questions for you now about your mum And then if he can guess your mum's name in 15 seconds You win $100 cash Perfect

Macaela I feel we need to make a auditory connection Like a hum? You start humming, we'll join, okay And that's going to connect us spiritually Wait, Mikela, are you in your car Or are you out of your car

I'm in the car Because we've had a problem before Haven't we've not been connected to the earth That's why we hump Because the tyres It's a frequency It's an air-based frequency I thought the tyres

Stop the Okay Okay, we're thinking of grounding. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So you start humming and we'll join in, okay?

All right. No, she starts. Oh, no, no, no. No, no, no, it's good. I actually quite liked it. Wow. You feel connected? Stunning, actually.

Can you? No, nice. I think we've got a Bluetooth connection. Yeah, we have, actually. Okay. You're linked into it. Infrared. Okay, all right, an infrared connection.

I feel connected. Yeah, I feel connected to you too, Michaela. Beautiful, actually. Yeah. First question. Well, first of all, I'm just going to chuck a couple of names down as I want to do. Okay. I put down our mother's names.

Yeah, good. Always. Because, of course we do. So, Christine. I can't wait for the day. My hand's not really wanting to write today, and I've got a wobbly top heavy pen. I hope this doesn't. What is it is?

A sparkly gold pen. It's not a good sign. No. A sparkly gold pen with a cactus. on the top of it. What's that? It's ludicrous. I don't know. It is. It is. It is ridiculous. Stupid. Is your mom...

Is your mum a Christmas mum? Yes. Right. She goes all in. She goes all out. Like, what are we talking? Yeah, she buys, like, one of those, like, owls from bedbath and beyond every year. Like a little mini elf or a little mini Santa. Oh, okay. Why doesn't she use them more than once?

finish them and then burn them or something? No, she just stacks them in her bedroom. Collection grows. She's collecting elves. Okay, wow. In her bedroom, creepy to wake up to that. Yeah, quite a lot. It is a bit.

Yeah, it's giving me Evelyn. Is it giving you an Eve? No, Evelyn or Evelyn. I've got, I win a Linda. It felt like a Linda. Okay, yep. Yeah, it could be a Helen. I put down a Helen, yeah, sure, a Helen.

Absolutely. Could also be a Wendy. Yeah. What about a Deborah? Like a Debs? Yeah, Debs. I love Christmas and garden gnomes. Pauline.

I'm going to keep the text machine open because sometimes we forget people often have hummed along with you. Yeah. Yeah, so I'm connected to multiple people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it might be a proximity thing. Yeah, okay. Next question.

There's something about Michaela's name that's drawing me in. Really? I don't know what it is. Do you think it's like Michael and A. had a kid and they went could be Macela.

No. Yeah. It's Maddie McCleyn's his name's Macalala, right? Michaela McLean. Michaela McLean? Michaela McLean. McLecy, put down Tracy.

Yeah, I'm not going to be on Tracy. She's a Macal McClain. Oh. I had dinner with Stephen Tracy Oh, did you? They love that good people. Are they? Yeah, they're asked after you.

Did they? Yeah, they love you. They love them. I don't know them well enough yet, and I'm not offended that they didn't ask. now there's a lot of names coming in but warn the only one I'm going to pass you away is Michelle you think a Michelle's got owls in the bedroom for sure okay um okay what about I'm just gonna get hit of Michaela there oh you're gonna tell her to shut up oh yeah we don't want

any audible clothes apart from your answers to these very direct questions because when we pay what's your job in people start humming along we start docking the pay yeah I don't want to take you to an idea I won't do it yet now let's talk about what kind of Holiday mum likes. Oh yeah, is she a beachy holiday? Is she like an exciting? Does she like to relax? Crew ships.

Crew ships. Beachy, beachy. She just loves like a campground. Does she? Oh, okay. Subset question. What's her campground of choice? Oh, probably Cook Beach.

Oh. Where's Cook's Beach? Okay, what's a camping mom? What's a camping mom? Tina, someone's missing. Tina, Tina, Tina. Tina would love a camping ground, yeah. Yeah.

No more clues. Okay, look. She's describing what kind of camping mum and mum is. Oh, right. Because you said, what's the came in? We meant the names. Who takes their kids camping? Yeah, right.

God, there's a lot of messages coming in here. Someone's saying, I was humming along with Michaela. I feel incredibly connected to her right now. And I'm telling you, it's big, loud, coming through, Marie. Marie. Have you got a Linda on the list? Yeah, Linda was one of the first names. That was the first name post-our-our-mothers' names.

Yeah, right, okay, good. Always put a Karen now. Someone said, if she's so into Christmas, how have you looked past Carol, Holly and Joy? Carol. Holly and Joy, I love that. And we've got Eve, of course, Christmas Eve. Yes.

What's some Mrs. Claus's name? First name. Candice. Candice Claus. We've done Candice. Yeah, that's going on the list. What's your mum's date of birth? Like, well, sorry, like, year of birth.

What's their star sign? Oh, I don't know the star sign. Oh, how old? January. January. What, we're in January? She could be Aquarius or she could be Capricorn. She's 25th of Jan.

She's in Bitterme. She's a bit of me. She's an Aquarius. I'm aqueous, possibly. She's Aquarius, yeah. So I want an A-N-A-N-N-A-N-N-A-N-A-N-A-Del. Adele. Adeline.

No. No, it's not there. I'm so sorry. I'll shut up. You should shut up. What are your mum's siblings' names? So the oldest is Tony, and then we've got Carl, Brent, Nigel. Oh, shit.

Oh, my goodness. Okay. Carl, Tony, Brent and Nigel. She's the only girl. Sandra. Sandy. Sandy. Big Sandy energy.

Yeah, you think she's got big Sandy. Carl, Brent, Nigel and Bex. No, no, too young. No, Bex is too young. Nigel. Oh, this is good. I'm loving this one. Vicki.

Vicki? Vicki. Oh, Vicki. Oh, Vicki. And what's mum's sport of choice? This could be to watch. This could be to play. I would say netball.

Oh, she loves a netting. Dame. No lane. No lane. Hasn't she been through the ringer. Oh, Dan, have you got Arine on there? My rain, oh. I'd be mad not to put Arryn.

Ah, no. O'in, of course. Vantorah. I'm going to go Julia as well. Yep. And Alora. Okay. Well, Michaela, Vaughn has asked his five questions.

He now has 15 seconds to guess your mum's name. If you hear your mum's name, yell out. Stop. That's my mum's name. Vaughan. Your time starts now. Bev, Christine, Patsy, Linda, Evelyn, Helen, Helen, Wendy, Deborah Pauline, Tracy Michelle, K, Tina. No, that's my mum's name.

Which one? Tracy. Of course it is. Oh, Tracy. Tracy McLean. Yeah. Maddie McLean's mother has a daughter called Michaela. And that's how we got there.

Wait, and we'll make sure this isn't Michaela McLean. This isn't Michaela McLean? I can confirm it. Well, no, because Maddie doesn't have any brothers called, what was it, Warren and... No, then Maddie's... Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Carl-Brant Tony and... Well, that's exciting.

That means that you have triggered the bonus round. The bonus round! While you're on the phone, I'll have a go at guessing your dad's name. One Dave. One guess at Dad's name. Is that you locking in? Dave. Dave, I had Dave before I had Dave when we first talked to Michaela before I even considered the mum's name.

But what about Steve? But what about Steve? No, it's not Steve. It's Dave, it's different because it's, but it's got the connection with the ending with the V sound. But Dave came to me when we hummed. Okay. Okay. Michaela, is your dad's name Dave?

I just want to say our connection is so strong because Dave is my dad. No, it's not. Whatever. How did you know that? Yes. Yes. How did you know that?

I had Dave before I had... No. I had Dave before I had Tracy. Dave came through loud and Claire from Dave. Dave and Tracy. Dave and Tracy. It's got to be a name like Dave. Dave had Michaela, of course they did. Trace and Dave.

Love that. McKaylor. Oh my God. You've won $200. Woo-woo. Yay. It's happened before. Don't think me.

Fint the spirits. Thanks our connection. Yeah, thanks to the connection. Thanks to the connection. Congratulations, Michaela. Well done. $200 you've won, but I can guess your mom and dad's name today. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Haley.

Well, of course, these are the Grammy nominations for the Grammys, which will happen. next year. Yes. And earlier in the week, we read out the Grammys list. It's your friend Ellen. Huh? Your friend Alan did this to me.

My friend Alan had nothing to do with us. I'm not apologising on behalf of Alan. My friend Alan, the AI had nothing to do with it. Okay, Haley, Ozell, dear list is an apology because when we talked about the Grammy nominations this week, and Vaughn and Hayley were alternating through the Gramies list, Vaughn was reading from the 2025 list. And Haley, no, I was reading from the 20, technically, when we went wrong, was it is 2025, but these are technically known as the 2026 Grammys.

Yes. And you were reading, you were reading from last year's nominations, this year's Grammys. Because you said, at one stage, you said Beyonce leads to it with 11 nominations. And I'm like, I can't see Beyonce on my list anywhere. I'll apologize, but I blame your friend, Ellen. A.I. Because I had a list of the Grammy nomination. and it's really long.

So I go into chat GPT and I say, give me a breakdown of this year's Grammy nominees. Yeah, but it's not. It's next years. I know. Do you know I sort of thought we could just brush over this and people wouldn't know? And then I opened the text machine

and I had about 10 texts saying, Haley, you're an idiot. It was the last years. And I thought, you know what? Not today. I won't acknowledge it. And now I have been called out for my bad broadcaster.

But I blame Alan. And this is what I think. We can't trust these AI robots. This is what you call your AI robots. This is what you call your AI. I call it. So how many nominations has Beyonce got for the 2026? I just brushed over that because she's always putting stuff out and I never hear it.

Yeah, and it's always just like, yeah. Wow. She's put it another album and you're like, tell me three singles from it. So I said 11 and it's zero. So I was a little bit off. Just a little off. I was a little bit off. Yeah. So we just thought maybe we would pull you up on this.

Yeah. Because there have been some more messages since just saying, hey, look, Haley got that wrong. They listened to the podcast. and post it online like what are you doing you that's last year's yeah yeah yeah well I guess it's just like it was also a test for our listeners as well oh was it Alex Warren is nominated for best new artists he is but nothing else considering the fact that ordinary was number one for like 10 weeks is insane yeah yeah sometimes I what I like to do is I like to chuck in some lies some non-factual stuff just to make sure people are paid check sure people are listening

I was doing it on your chair it got you you think that I was wrong No, I was actually running my own check. Oh, what was that it? Of our listener and, listener, you passed. Congratulations. Listener passed, good to know you're listening, and Beyonce got zero nominations. And that's what you've just said, that's a form of narcissism. Yeah.

Is that what I'm displaying you're not wrong? What you're doing is you're never wrong and you're gaslighting us for a saying, I think you've got that. Or gas lamping, of course. You actually being crazy. Play Z-M's Fletchbourne and Haley. Time for, fact of the day, day, day. Day, day, day. Today's back to the day in landscape, sorry, landmark week.

Landscaping week, join us next week for landscaping. Oh, gosh, thrilling. Retaining walls. We're going to talk about retaining walls. We're going to talk about our grades, grades of metal, pit sand, grass types. Yeah, but grass types. Some good plant filler. And those to avoid.

The Leaning Tower Rapisa is today's landmark. Oh my God, I love it. Have you been? Yeah, I have. Never. I want to get one of those photos where I'm pretending to push it. I was too embarrassed. I was solo travelling and I was like, I feel like a loser.

So I just did a selfie like this and then I was like... Yeah. And then if people don't do that, they get a photo pretending to push it, but they're miles off. Yeah, I love it. And that's also the joke. Yeah. That is good. Well, construction of Torre Depente de Pisa began in 1173.

And it started leaning before. the third story was even finished. The cause of which is the soft mix of clay sand and shells underneath. Join us next week for landscaping we'll be able to avoid that lane. We'll talk about solid foundations. Yeah, solid foundations. It's secure to any building. Not exactly

a great base for a heavy marble bell tower. Builders tried to compensate by adding extra height on the short side, but that made it heavier. Oh yeah, so instead of fixing the bottom, it's been like, I'll just jack it up the top. Yeah, yeah, they added more on the top. to try to compensate.

But that would have looked weird because one floor would have been out of kilter. And anyway, it didn't work because it made it sink even more. Then construction stopped for a century. Finance ran out, wars, etc., etc.

So the soil had settled a little bit by the time they came to finish it in the mid-1300s, which they say actually saved it. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it leaned at 1.4 degrees and then over the centuries

it's crept to nearly 5.5 degrees. Which is a lot. Over the course of the whole tower, it's 4.5 metres off being perfectly vertical. Yeah, it really is leaning. But now they've reinforced it so much, it won't go anymore, right? Enter Benito Mussolini. Alo Mussolini. A fascist dictator.

Oh, no. Okay, you've got him confused. Get on the same page, guys. Was he good or bad? You've got him confused with Benicio del Toro. Yes, the director. The director, the actor. Yes, the actor.

Now, Benito Mussolini thought the lean of the tower made Italy look weak and it was a national embarrassment. Oh. He ordered in 1934 for it to be returned to vertical. The ideas will to drill 361 holes in the foundation

on the lower side and pump 90 cubic metres of concrete into it. That's about the two full swimming pools. Now, now, now, you'll remember throughout history the problem was it was too heavy. Yes. So what do you think 90 cubic meters of concrete did? Well, it weighted down even more.

It weighted down even more. It weighted down even more. more leaning the tower further south. He was furious and embarrassed and called it Uno duisgrasia. A disgrace. I'd disgrace. Yeah, I speak Italian. Oh my God, how did you even know that?

Oh, doolingo. Oh my God, of course. So then the tower was just like, leave it alone because she's on a big fat tilt and we're worried about it. So 1990s, the lean had reached 5.5 degrees, as we said, four and a half meters off being vertical and they're like, this is going to fall down.

1990 got closed to the public and surrounded by steel cables and counterweights. After years of analysis, British and Italian engineers worked together and basically on the higher side started taking buckets of earth out from underneath it. Between 99 in 2001, there was 38 cubic metres of earth removed buckets at a time just so it would pull it back. It pulled it back by 43 centimetres.

So it's back to how it was, it was back to how it was leaning in 1838. And now they're like, it's going to be okay for 200 more years. At this point, you know what I mean? why we keep saving this thing it's also quite small it's eight stories yeah I always thought it was way bigger no it's not it's quite small

and it's not eight stories as we know them not like in a past because they were all like tiny little small well it's a bell tower as well right people weren't living in it yeah but you know what I mean like god we keep trying keep trying building your chow also like you go to engineering school

in uni for all those years and then you're like well just take a couple of buckets out today mate you're like what yeah why do they study so hard and then tomorrow we just do a couple more buckets He's like, this doesn't seem legit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We didn't learn this in math. So that's not the only leaning tower in Italy.

There's like heaps of them, but apparently none are is photogenic and none of is like clear in front of to be able to get a photo that perfectly shows the lean. I mean, if you've been anywhere in Europe, all the wonky buildings and the cracks and the stone and, yeah, it's a thing. Yeah.

So today's fact of the day is the leaning tower of Pisa was leaning before it was even finished and despite lots of people trying to fix it, it's still on the lean. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day, day. I'm a bit doodoo do, do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. I'm a bit bummed actually because the only sneakers I rock are Chuck Taylor's and that's fine. Like I love them.

You're at the age now where they're not supporting enough. No, no, no, I get the big thick fatty, so they're a little bit more supportive. But, you know, I've been in the market for some Adidas specials, specials. Okay. Which is a very popular show, it's fine. And when we're in Bali, I was like, well, I'll just hit me up with a pair of, you know, $40 ones from, you know. Definitely legit. Abby Bass.

Yeah. And then I decided, you know what, no, like if I'm going to get them, I'll get the real thing. Yep. I don't know. I just saw Georgia, like, walk in studio. now and she's got them on and I'm like well I can't do it because she was going to be like you

copied me and now I suffer as a result I'm all for sharing sharing if I'm inspiring your style that's totally fine but this is the thing fashion is my passion not yours and I just think most of the time I look at your shoes and I think where's the rest of them she's got a series of half shoes

you do you like a half shoes actually I'm actually just stylish I'll have you know I don't know sometimes you miss the mark But now I'm like, I can't get these shoes because it's just going to look like when your friend copies your outfit, which I've had before. It actually ended up in my benefit because I had this dress when I worked in this designer clothing store

and my best friend liked it so much that she went and bought it but just in a slightly different colour. And at the time I was like, hmm, but then she borrowed mine for a party and she liked it but she got a durry burn in it. So then she ended up just giving me her one as a fair track. You won. That actually, that's definitely a fair trade.

But have you ever had this when you've had a friend and you like buy a fit or like something like really bold and they're like, oh my God, I love that. Where's it from? And then they buy it? Yep. I got, basically was supposed to go to a ball and I had a dress that someone else had and we bumped into each other before the ball. They were like, I'm going to wear that. And I was like, oh. But it wasn't in a way of like, oh my God, we'll get a photo.

It's going to be so cute. It was like, I'm going to wear that. So what are you going to do? I remember I was like an intern. I had no money. I was like, no, I guess I'm going to go buy a new one. Yeah. And it was, yeah, it was not great.

I was trying to reckon rock it half the time. Well, this is what I would know is when did someone copy your look? And I wonder if this has ever happened with wedding dresses. Oh. You know, friends like looking and be like, oh, I'm going to love that dress so much. I'm going to get the same one. Would you be okay if a friend had kind of your dress but they changed it a little bit? As long as they went second.

Look, she paused. And she was like, I know it's bad. Oh, see, that's actually something that I might have been a bit more. only because I made a point of trying to get a dress that I hadn't seen anyone else really weird even though it was similar style to everyone but I actually know of someone that messaged a girl for her wedding dress and she's like yeah I'll sell it to you

and she's sold her and then covered it is the same same in a way but it was good whereas dudes are like I saw a t-shirt that I liked and I knew my mate Johnny would like it too so I bought two and then we hang out we always wear the same t-shirt we're like brothers brothers girls are not like that We're not like that.

Girls and dolly pardon t-shirts. Except for, I will say, the Kmart shirts. Any gals can rock those because no one wants to pay $130 from Dish. No, yeah, no, totally. The Kmart shirts is a different thing. We're all on board. No, there's striped ones. No, they're just this plain, thick Oxford shirt.

And it's so cool. And everyone that rocks it, you're like, you go buy it, $29, my brother. Okay, 0800.000, M. We want you to give us a call. 9-6-96. When did a friend steal your outfit? This is going to be great. There's going to be some bitchy quorples and tex.

Yeah, let's get bitchy. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Haley. So I want to know when a friend copied your look because I'm not saying that you copied my look. You've got Eddie Das shoes and I want them, but now it's going to look like I copied her look. Like Georges, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't help but be a fashion influencer.

Yeah, yeah, I've been fluenced. I want to know when a friend copied your look. Wow, and I tell you what, a lot of messages, this has happened. So, someone did message in and say, copied my wedding dress. I remember her dashing, gushing, about how beautiful I looked on my wedding day and then two years later she wore a very, very, very similar dress for hers.

Hair style exactly the same as mine and the same dress. Sorry, it happened. She looked beautiful, but... Yeah. But also, I don't know, maybe it's a guy thing, but most wedding dresses look the same to me. Just like neck curtains. Just big white neck curtains.

of wet, you know, white curtains. Someone messaged and say my mother-in-law does this all the time, sees me in the clothes that she buys him. I have so many clothes now I can't wear because she has them on repeat. Mother-in-law? Mother-in-law.

Oh, no. We can't be doing that. My mum had a friend growing up and her daughter used to always copy my outfits and hairstyles down to colour and length. It was very annoying. We are hearing only from women.

Take it as a... Yeah, dude, because if you say, I always say it, I make a point. If I see a guy we're in the same thing, I'll say, like, cool t-shirt. But what if he's wearing the same thing, but he's, like, way hotter. That's okay, it's way better. Yeah, I'm just not going to get, I'm not going to dwell on that.

You're just not going to dwell on that? I'm just going to congratulate the brother on a cool t-shirt. But what would you do, have you ran into a chick and she was way hotter and looked way better in the same outfit? That is the pants. Big Sandy's messaged in. Oh, yeah. Kilda. Kilda, big Sandy.

My mate Kaza copied me, bought some of my favorite track pants once, and we had a bit of a donnie Brock over it. Donny Brock, eh? We have a Donny Brock. Play ZEM's Fletchbourne and Haley. Ben did a friend steal your outfit because I have some Adidas shoes. Yeah. And Georgia has like, saw them and was like,

oh my God, I'm going to get some and she got some of the same ones. It's exactly how the story goes. Excuse me. We want to hear from you now when a friend stole your look as Georgia has done mine. Also, Georgia just, while that song was playing, admitted that she is gatekeeping. A brand that she found in Australia because she doesn't. doesn't want people at work to buy it.

Literally, no, because it arrived to work when I got delivered, and everyone was like, where's that from? What's that brain? I was like, back off. I'm telling you. I'm not telling you. I'm going to find this out, and I'm going to buy it. No. I don't even care if it was like a $200, I will save and I will buy that. And you said they also do a Land Rover t-shirt. You know I'm going to need that.

Yeah, well, I was actually going to buy it hence why I also didn't tell you. And then I changed. You're going to buy a Land Rover tissue. Well, it looks cool. She's copying all of us. No, I'm just looking. Next, she'll be wearing RMs and jeans. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, okay, yeah.

Yeah, right. Nick should be wearing band t-shirts and, you know, petticoats and Doc Martims. That's wild. Oh, the docks aren't for me. No, you're not a dog, girl. Thank God. Okay, so many messages in. When a friend has copied your look and it led to a bit of drama.

Hey, someone messages, a friend of mine saw my tattoo, liked it so much and got it a month later. Oh, no. No, that's, you don't do that. That'd irk me. Maybe best friends if you decide to do it together? Are you committing to getting Vaughan on your thigh as well? No, absolutely not. Yeah, but if Fletch was, would you be into it?

Yeah, I would with that one. But some of my other tattoos, if my friends got it, I'd be like... Hang on a sec. That's me. Yeah, that's mine. It's kind of permanent. Like, I can't... Now it looks like I just sort of got on the bandwagon myself. Yep.

Went to my husband's boss's daughter's wedding. She had the same colour scheme as the meat, black and silver. That's not super original, though, for a woman. Okay, no, no, no, but I'm just saying this could be a coincidence. Same style bridesmaids dresses, same flowers, lilies. Lillies are very popular. Oh, Georgia, please. Georgia.

We're trying to work. Sorry, this is our show. My computer just honestly reset itself, and that's not my problem, really. Walk down to the aisle is the same song as me. As she entered. It's a dell. Not, oh, sorry, not all of us can get an apple in our work thingies. This is an Apple studio.

I can put your foot down. They'll get you, Mac, put your foot down. Can you put your foot down for me? My foot's not very good at being put down. Oh, I'll put foot down for you. So basically, same colour scheme, same flowers, same bridesmaid's dresses. Well, and I walk down the aisle to the same song as me. As she entered, they muttered under my breath, Jesus Christ, does she want my husband too?

Oh my God, I watched the spin of that story was, and she got him. A few months later. That would be great. She might, yeah. Wow. She might, yeah, this story, the rest is still unwritten as Natasha Bettingfield once famously said.

I guess you could just take that as a compliment. Your wedding was so amazing. Get an original idea. Someone said my sister-in-law pretty much has a mirror image of my wardrobe now. Without fail, if I get something new, she'll be like, oh my God, where'd you get that? And she goes out and buys the same thing immediately. No.

And yet, Georgia won't tell me when she got the T-shirt. Is it one of those things where, like, you say, oh, yeah, go get it one time and then next minute they think it's for everything. Two, gentlemen I work with, obviously, hit the same Helen Stein's new season sale. Shirt up to work one day in identical shirts, pants and belts. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Do guys have less choice than women? I feel like we do. Yeah. We don't know what else to put you in, but T-shirts and shirts. Yeah. And they're like, chinos and jeans. Yeah, we love that. Shorts.

Easy. Unknowingly turned up to a friend's small wedding, 40 people max, and the exact same dress as a close friend in extremely similar shoes. We dubbed ourselves Honoreru Bridesmaids and have. had a great day together. Oh, that's good. That's good to hear. Mortifying at first, but yeah, at least you got over it.

Someone says, is it the same thing if I just get my sister's clothes once she gets bored of them? So I'm kind of stealing her look maybe a few months later. That's a bonus. I like that. Yeah, it's recycling as well, up cycling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Imagine being my sister. It's kind of like my mum.

She walks in because my mum and I are basically the same size. Now she's got a whole new wardrobe. She shops my wardrobe every day. I come home and I'm like, oh. Excuse you? As long as you haven't worn it yet. Like those are the worst. Like if she's gone in and you...

Oh, no, don't worry. There's nothing in Haley's wardrobe hasn't been worn. Like, everything in Haley's wardrobe has been worn at least 12 times. Oh. I just, who did your tummy girls? Yeah, that was my tum-tum.

That was my tun-tum-tum. Hey guys, I reckon it was the most fun I've ever had on a show. Oh, not for me. Born? Oh, no, nowhere even close. No, nowhere even close. No, you haven't been here long, have you?

No, I haven't. Well, if you were listening and you had fun, why don't you give us a little review and a rating? Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley.