ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - November 18th 2025

Episode Date: November 17, 2025

On today's episode of the Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley Big Pod, Hayley had to send a awkward text to a 'buddy' and what dangerous toys did you have as a kid? Female Energy drink ten worst tourist attractions SLP - Do you shut your apps in the background Hone Alone is 35 Top 6  - Things on my Jacinda Arden Graham Norton Bingo card Synthony  We say Maths instead of Math What dangerous toy did you have as  kid Trapping celebs on your close friends Do you hate your Spouse's job and why Fact of the day Hayley had send an awkward text Forehead kisses are the end of your relationship See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

From the ZM Podcast Network This is Fleshwon and Haley's Big Pod Thanks to animates Making Happy Happen for Pets Hello, good morning Welcome to the show Fletch Fawn and Haley It's two minutes past six Hello

Hello Hayley's back in studio I am and I've got a bit of Betterdean on my face So if you were looking I thought it was a bit of marmite Vegemite or something I yesterday had Christoderm on my face

and the girlies message me being like, Hon, there's something on your face thinking it was something else. Just doing a little girly support, making sure I was aware, and I was like, no, Hans, it's this. But today I've got, you know, I'm doing a better day. Right. It's good. You're lovely. I'm on the advice of Dr. Shawnee, show doctor, who I bothered on the weekend as I want to do. Haley's face is not getting better.

Do you know, so apparently, in order for the body to heal itself, it needs sort of rest and care? I've been told this. Allegedly I might have told you that though Didn't I in like last week Oh baby you told me three months ago She's still burning She's burning the candle

What candle It's just a pile of wax You're at the end of 2025 And just a puddle of wax On the floor The top six born Ex-Prime Minister Jacinda Ardoin is on Graham Norton

She's gonna be on Graham Norton So it won't be on screen in New Zealand until December Yeah. She's done Colby a couple of times, right? Yeah. Because he always calls her Jacinda Ardern. Airdrne.

Hits the Ardern. Ardern. She's been on John Stewart. Yep. It's been a few of them. Graham Norton's a different sort of talk show. Yeah, I don't like how they all just end up on the couch. I love Grinthorden.

It's so good. Yeah, it's very well. Apparently, going to a filming if you're ever in London's pretty amazing. Real fun. Yeah, you go along. Oh, I'd say that'd be nearly impossible to get tickets, wouldn't it? Oh, yeah, it's hard. The guests are insane.

Same. Yeah. Well, I got the top six things on my Jacinda Ardern on the Graham Norton Bingo card. Right. Things that she'll do. Your predictions almost. Yeah.

Well, you know her as a close friend, as a genuine friend of yours. Yeah. But next on the show, tell you what, get ready for some more pink tax ladies. There's a very famous brand that is releasing something just for the gals. Play that ends, Fleshhorn and Haley.

Long known about the pink tax, that women's products, you tend to pay a bit more for them. You've got a razor, same razor, but you make it pink, and now we're paying $2 extra or pens for ladies. Yeah, but your razors are cuter. They are so cute.

Like guy razors are just like blue. Yeah, but when you shave your leg with a guy razor, something is different. It's nicer. Is that? Yeah. Is it? I reckon.

I thought your ones were like contoured or something and had all those extra. For all of our lady lumps. Or for your lady lumps. For all of our squishy lady lumps. Well, there is a very famous brand By the name of Monster Energy Do you know I've never tasted it?

I don't know what it... No, I don't think I've tasted a monster either. We should have got a can of Monster in to sip it together. No, I'll be all right, thanks. We're not really an energy drink group, but even if I was to have an energy drink would probably be a V, just because that's classic and I guess I'm older.

Yeah. But Monster Energy, very famous brand. A lot of like the lad, lad, lad, lads cross... cross-country bikes and all that. Motorcross. They sponsor like freestyle motocross and all kinds of adventure sports.

Yeah. It's very laddie focused. Yeah. While they have seen a gap in the market, they're like, what about our ladies? Are they owned by... Monster? Who owns Monster Energy?

I think it is. Or maybe not. It is Monster Beverage Corporation. Oh, okay. Own brand. There might be a distribution thing. Right. The Coca-Cola.

Coal Company acquired a large stake in Monster Beverage Corporation in 2015 as their distribution partnership. Right, okay. So Monster Energy... You joined us at ASB Business Desk we're just discussing who it owns what when it comes to powerful energy drinks.

Does it just blow your mind sometimes when you find out who owns a company? It's like... It was the same company. You're like, I thought that this was like a bootie business. That's Nestle. If you go high enough, it's Nestle. It's always Nestle.

If you're looking hard enough. Johnson and John. Johnson or Nestle, that's who owns it, or Coca-Cola. Or Mars. Yeah, or Mars. So, Monster Energy has released Flirt, but without the eye. That's crazy, guys. Flirt.

Okay. Man, I'm like an energy, I need a frat. So it's a female-focused drink, flirt. It's pink and sort of fruity-looking. It promises, but there is yet to be a full report on it. Beauty-adjacent benefits, like supporting skin. health, hair, collagen and immunity. So it's got some...

With all that sugar and energy... Sugar-free, babe, so we... What it's going to do is going to tear your gut apart with artificial sweeteners. They're saying no artificial colours, but like most brands are like that now. But the artificial sweeteners will be ripping through this. 100 calories

per can. Yeah. 40% less sweet than traditional soda made from rescued fruits. Yeah, no, because you know those fruits that don't have a home? Oh, like someone buys the fruit and then they're like Actually, this fruit's too much for me. I need to re-home this fruit.

Or I didn't realize my mango hadn't been used it. They go around to people's houses, knock on the door and open their chiller. Yeah. Like, this banana's been here all day, and the neighbors are sick of it. The fruit flies are going crazy. It's incredible work. And then the pulpit and make it into a juice. Yeah.

It's great work. Tex. Rescue to fruit to donate $2 to the fruit. Sorry. My fruit's rescued. I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it makes me feel absolutely terrible about buying my fruit. You got yours fresh.

Yeah, well, I always rescue. Anyway, here's the flavors. Strawberry fling, berry tempting, guava lava in sunset squeeze. God, this is terrible. Wow, okay. And are these in New Zealand or is this overseas? It's being released at the top of next year globally. 2026, get ready for fruit!

And will I have the pink tax? Will it be a dollar more? Don't know about the cost, but you bet. Because women, we love pink. We love pink things. The ZM Podcast Network. Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughan and Haley. The 10 worst rated tourist attractions.

The list for 2025 is out. How embarrassing. I feel like we talked about a similar list last year. Yeah. This is my favourite time of the year. We get the wrap-ups of the year, the words. We'll say when we talked about the 100 best cities, most livable cities,

or whatever the other day, and the person that messaged in, is this just a chance for Fletch to brag about how well-traveled here? Oh, I know, all the cool places. I want to see how many of these you've been to. Although I was going to say you don't go to, like, tacky tourist attractions. But I wouldn't say these are even tacky.

These are, like, some of the biggest tourist attractions in the world. Oh, just disappointing, maybe. Just really disappointing people. So what is it based off? So they have worked out. They've narrowed it down to the 10 based on Google reviews, average TikTok likes, the safety ratings, and local accommodation quality. So this is basically, yeah, it's the other side.

of like the great places to go where they kind of looked at the same things, right? So starting at number 10 on the worst, Machu Picchu. Oh, shut it. We're all talking about that we wanted to go. It's got a score of 5 out of 10, and it's the highest amongst the 10 worst rated attractions. And the reason is because it's far from the airport, it's got a low safety rating, and apparently it's just crowded as all hell. Oh, okay, the crowding.

But like, boo-hoo, boo-hoo. Poohoo something built thousands of years ago It doesn't have a safety rail Yeah Mount Kilimanjaro At Tanzania is number nine Yeah I would It's definitely on my list

I would love to at some stage But again it just seems like people are whinging Because it was hard It was hard It was windy and cold Oh yeah So they're just It was it was strenuous

Yeah Disneyland Paris Is number eight on the list I've heard that's the weakest Of the Disney movie Oh really? And apparently it was It's just that it's are really expensive, so that

at the happiest place on Earth already makes people quite sad. You're a bit pissed off to begin. Yeah, just low on the ratings. He's crying. He's upset. He is upset because we know he's our Disney. He's a Disney adult. I love my brother's at Disneyland. My brother did Disney World in

Florida so methodically, I think he took the fun out of it. Really? I think he did it as only, that's your brother. I'm totally right. Take something magical and do it so methodically like his daughter just put up a thing fuel break day oh wow

she's just like he would be he would be doing Disney world with military precision but wouldn't pay for a fast pass oh no you've got it if you go to a theme park

it's money well invested if you can Stonehenge at 7 is one of the world's worst rated tourist attractions I've never been apparently it's like everyone gets her and they're like it's small it's small it's quite small

But I mean, I've never been, but also, once you're there, yep. You know what I've sort of... You can't get close to it. I beheld it. And now what? Yeah. You can't walk amongst it, I think, is also a disappointing thing. Right.

The Mone of the Museum of Old and New Art in Tasmania, Australia is on the list. I want to go Tazzy hard. I want to go Taz. That could be our next genuine friends. Could be TAS. We do a roadie around Taz. Yeah. It looks beautiful.

But apparently, you guys organise it and pay for it and I'll go home again. No. So it's a surprise. Just keep me in the dark. Is that the theme every year, is it? I think you should you do the theme every year? I'm still sad. That's not happening.

As long as you say sad for another year, mate, we'll whip you away. I'm sad. Take me on holiday. I'm sad. I'm still sad. No, I think your next holiday will be somewhere closer. Yeah. On the list.

Tazzy would 100%. No, we'll do. We'll go to Taz. Next on the list of the world's most... What number are we at? The worst rated tourist attractions number five. Victoria Harbour, Hong Kong. Oh, Hayley loves Hong Kong.

Never been. Oh, my God. The Victoria Hub is beautiful. Nightlife, there's those old boats. Well, visitors, the most complained about aspect of that pollution, high prices, lackluster amenities. You're in Hong Kong. Yeah, there's pollution, homie. I remember blowing my nose coming home from a big day out in Hong Kong. Haley loves Hong Kong, man. Can I just make it clear? Yeah. And it was Souti.

We do love Hong Kong, but we're not the radio show that's currently in Hong Kong. Tony Finn, Harry. Tony Street. Tony Evans Street. Tony Street, wow. Tony loves Hong Kong. That doesn't work. That doesn't roll off the time.

Hayley loves Hong Kong. It's H-H-H. All right. Well, so they all give, you know, like, you know, they're quite easy targets for pickpockets all of their, mate. Tony's a big open handbag.

She's going to be pick-pocket in a day. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. There's pick-pockets everywhere born. Yeah. Okay, number three, number three on the list, Istanbul's Grand Bazaar in Turkey, I've never been. Oh my God, I bought a leather jacket from there. It's an amazing market. I just, this list

sucks. Did you skip number four? The Great Wall of China. I did, yes. You skipped four. Great Wall of China, why don't they like that? Overrated. Again, a little bit... The safety rating. Yeah, a lot of people, of course, you're in China. Like, what do you expect? You're one of the great

wonders of the world. Yeah, yeah. Number two on the list of Dead Sea and Jordan, never been. Why of people like that's pretty simple? You go, it's salty and you float. You float, yeah. It's too salty for anything to live. I wish it was more alive. Number one. on the list. The worst rated tourist

attraction in the whole world with Google reviews and complaints. What do you think it is? I was like the Eiffel Tower or something really obvious. The Eiffel Tower would be the worst of the worst. The Hollywood Walk of Fame. Oh yeah, that's gross. Riddled with like piss and

homeless people. Yeah, because your exposure to it is the Oscars. Yeah. And you're like, wow, magical. And then you get there and they're like, eh, poos. There's literal poos. And then you're like, let's just walk and find some People we know, and it's like, you just, you can't find the stars you want. People are screaming at you about Jesus.

Yeah. There's a, there's an Optimus Prime kind of, the kind of looks like, you take a photo and then Optimus Prime was like, give me money for that photo. You're like, no, I didn't know that was the deal. I'm from New Zealand. How? The Zen podcast Network. Today's silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole. Today's silly little pole, all thanks to Mick Cafe.

Keep the show on the road, drive-through Mick Cafe for your morning fix. Once you finish using an app, do you close it in the background? Yeah. Does that mean you go like swipe it and swipe up and get rid of it? Close it completely. The reason I asked this is because the other day, last week, I was at the gym bra, bra. Bra. And I was...

Do you know what I can see it, man? Brah. And I was doing some, um, some holds, some, like, ab holds. Yeah, what do you call those? Planks. Planks. And I opened up my stopwatch and the other day I opened it back up and it was... Still going.

Two hundred, is that 263 hours, two hours, 35 and three seconds? That's what it looks like. Yeah. Wow. No. So, 263 hours, two minutes, 53 seconds and something split seconds. Yeah. Yeah.

So a long time Do you know what's This is So I'm on tour with seven days at the moment Yeah Jeremy Corbett Started a timer on last year's tour For his set

When he went out to time his set Yeah And he opened it again this year And it's still been going It'd have been going the whole time For a year It was nearly 365 days So that is

Like that is why I wanted to ask that question For silly little poll today because surely that's not good if your time is going for your battery, right, the whole time. That was the whole thing wasn't about closing apps was like, oh, your batteries draining, close all your apps, close your apps, because they're working in the background. I've heard this before, you shouldn't close your apps

because every time your phone needs to reopen an app. It's cranking the whole phone. It's got to crank open the whole thing, battery, and they're actually designed to be running in the background. And there are settings that you can change on your phone if you're worried about it using data as well in the background? I want my low battery mode

to be on all the time. I want it to be the default. I don't like the yellow. No, I don't love that as well. And also, I don't think it pulls in messages. That's fine. You don't care. You'll just check when you check.

He would rather not be approached. Rather not be. Yeah. But no, the Apple say, and I'm sure it's the same for Samsung and other, like, devices. Sorry. Sorry, that was a knee jerk,

and I apologize to Samsung uses. Yeah, it hurts battery life and performance because they've got a fully reload when reopened. So leave them on. Okay. Well, what are the people doing? Well, the people have spoken. Have they?

41% said yes, I closed down an app. 40% have said once in a blue moon and 18% have said never. 41% yes, done with that one. Upside, flick it away. Close it down completely. Madness, what have the people got to say? Sandra said I clear all apps in one go every couple of days. Oh, yep.

So she goes through and she goes, flip, flip, flip, flip, flip. Mine's only like you when I notice something. I'll go to find an app and then I'm like, Jesus. Yeah. Mason said, no, never. Just checked. I have over 20 apps open and running. Sure, I could close them down and save battery.

But what's the point? I'm just going to open them again. Yeah, there you go. And then that will waste your battery when you do. Yeah. Megan said, my husband does it every time. He gets stressed by the amount of tabs I leave open. Oh, yeah.

Okay. Oh, the, the safari tabs. Oh, dude, I think I've got 400 safari tabs open. That's next level. That is wild Michael said no I usually close out then instantly go back in

thinking I hadn't just been in it Yeah okay What is that It's got a sort of an infinity loop Isn't it? Sort of an addiction Kind of like It's like opening up your fridge

And hoping something news there Yeah yeah yeah yeah I do it all the time I'm like Haley get off Instagram Close it I'm like what else got to look at Instagram Do you know what else

You can absolutely reopen right away again Michael A cafe voucher Because we've got a $50 one for you Wow Wow look at that All thanks to our friends at Mick Cafe. Yep.

Keep the show on the road. Try the three Mick Cafe for your morning fix. Jaden says, definitely not. It actually uses more battery, force-closing apps and re-opening them each time. Leave it open and it suspends it in the background. So they've done their research. Suspens.

Like you do. There you go, yeah. Who keeps it open? I feel like I'm getting too old for the silly little pile seed, Casey. Who keeps it open? So Casey's shutting everything down every time. It's like mum turning off the computer at the wall. Yeah, or the Wi-Fi at the wall when you go away.

Yeah, the TV at the wall. Can't have that sucking power. I feel like my mum used to turn off the router overnight. Yeah, in case it got hot and burst into flames and burn the house down. Lots of things used to burst into flames and burn the house down. Constantly. Constantly. Printers, the lot.

Yeah. Printers. Miranda is incorrect in thinking, leaving them open in the background, we'll eat your battery. She says, otherwise, I shut them down, otherwise they're going to eat your battery and meta will be listening. Meta will be. Meta is always. Meta is always listening. Met as always.

Where did we get to on that? Because there was a whole lawsuit thing, right? That they were listening. Oh, they are 100. Who was I chatting to it the other day? I had something pop up. Yes. What was it?

We were talking about something and you're like, oh, there's the ad for that. Mm. And you're like, I have not Googled it. They're like, it's all just in your zeit, guys, so you would have looked in it already. You're like, no. Oh, it's that genital cream. Oh, for the... And thank you for inquiring.

The flare-up has fled down. Super. You're inflamed at the moment. Oh, it's such a... inflammation. Natalie said once my iPhone 12 starts to lose its mind because it's old and overwhelmed, I pop in and give it a hand by closing everything down. Yeah, nice. Yeah, needs one of those every now. Yeah. Artes said, I just know Fletch closes every app and red bubble. Haley, I assume runs a system

of chaos. I close every red bubble, but I'll leave the apps on in the background. I have a system of chaos, but not bubbles. I get rid of... Emails are cleared. Emails are cleared. Emails are cleared. Yeah, as... We're in no... And that's why we get on. No bubbles. No bubbles. We don't bubble. If one of us bubbled, it would be all out of culture with each other. You just, I'm like, we're going to be back in the second listener. We'll be back in just a moment. Oh, my goodness.

Sorry, just a friend. I've actually lost all respect. Wow, we just, sorry, I just found out somebody has five and a half thousand bubbles. Yeah. I'm sorry. It's tough. It's a tough look. I just had a weak count up and I have 40 tabs open said, Libby.

I can't remember the last time I went through and closed them. Is that bad? No, we've learned it's not. No. You're all good, mate. Courtney, oh my God, the amount of times I have to go through a boomer's phone and close the tabs and internet tabs is insane. Something's wrong with my phone.

I think it has a virus. No, mum, you have 97 tabs open on Chrome and 30 apps going in the background. Yep, that'll do it. And Danielle said, only if my battery's low. Danielle, it's only making your battery lower. Yeah. Only making it lower. For Cilittle poll today, we said, once you finish using an app, you close it in the background,

and 41% of you do. The ZM Podcast Network Play ZDM's FlashWorn and Haley 1990 Hell of a year for the movies Die Hard 2 Oh yeah Dances with Wolves

Misery which is horrible Have you ever seen that one That's everything with Kathy Bay It's so horrible And she like smacks his shins in Yeah Ties him to the bed Ghost where Patrick Swayze does the pottery

Oh, yeah. And Whoopi Goldberg's there with Demi... All these classic movies. Edward Scissorhands. Total Recall. What a movie. Pretty woman. Wow.

Godfather Part 3. Back to the Future Part 3. Predator 2. Goodfellas, The Hunt for Red October. And 35 years since Home Alone was released. See, it's not possible because I was a baby. I was born at the end of a baby. meaning in 1990, is that the year you're talking about?

1990, I was months old, not years. But you grew up watching this movie. But I grew up watching this movie as if it was dropped when I was conscious. It was already old by the time I was watching it? Yes. What? No, it wasn't.

Like, when do you think the first time you watched it was? I would have been like 96 or 97 or something right when I was like six or seven years old. But how did it come out the same year as Goodfellas? How's that possible? Because Goodfellas is so much older. Goodfellas feels like, and both start Joe Pesci. How of a year for Joe Pesci.

Good year to be Joe Pesci. Great year for Joe Pesci. Yeah. This is so, that just feels off. I feel like it's wrong and you've got your data wrong. I don't have my data wrong. Tomorrow will be issuing an apology. Of course it wasn't released in 1990.

So Daniel Stern, who was one of the robbers. The burglary head one. The burglars. The one that gets the great scream. Yeah, gets electrocutter, gets the iron in the face. like got the great scream he was 33 years old when that movie came out no because I'm 36 I know

you've just got numbers up the wazoo homie three years older than Daniel Stern was so if you were born when that movie came out like Haley you're now older than one of the wet wet what were they wet foot bandits or the wet soaking something crazy

can we listen to Mav's scream because it's just so funny I don't oh yeah It becomes a skeleton. Yeah. That, that, that. It's iconic. It's iconic.

I love it. That's crazy that it's 35 years. And yet, every Christmas, like I think I didn't watch it last year, maybe the year before I did, and I just love it. Thank you, Kevin. No, that's home alone, too.

with the bird lady. With the bird lady that's home alone too lost in New York starring Donald Trump. Oh, and she gets the little turtle doves. Yeah. She's got no friends.

Yeah. She says, thank you, Kevin. Oh, iconic. It is like, it's, three was no good. Right. Do you need a moment just to, I don't know, man.

I don't know. Age is just a number. And the number is... The number represents the rapid decline of one's health and well-being. Yeah, that's right. Well, if that doesn't freak you out at 37 days till Christmas.

No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. Kindergarten cop came out in 1990. How's that? My tumour. It's not a tumour. It's not a tumour.

Boys have a penis, girls have a vagina. Classic movie with many classic lines. Classic. Play Z-M's flesh, fawn, and haley. From the unmoderated comment section, this is the top six. Yo. What's up, mate? Yo, Prime Minister, Jacinda Arduen, who were former Prime Minister, and Dame.

I was going to be on the Graham Norton show alongside Alan Carr Kate Winslet and Seth Myers Yes Wow What a couch So that'll be on TV screens in New Zealand Or on demand on the 12th of December

Wasn't it TVNZ's greatest scoop To get Graham Norton off TV 3 Yeah there was a big They moved in there That was a real That was like the time Do you remember that they stole Who stole home and away

From was that They stole that from three Three had home and away And then it went back in the way back of the day. And then two got it. Yeah. That's all a bit of fun, isn't it? When is a kid, three had the Ninja Turtles.

Yeah, they did. Three's big draw card. I feel like two got the Ninja Ninja Turtles at some stage. Imagine a three came in and took Shorty Street, you know? Whoa. What a lot of the top six things that are on my bingo card for Jacinda on Graham Norton. Things that I predict will happen. I'm number six on the list.

She'll refuse to flip a Kiwi in the chair. Oh, 100%. They love the Kiwis on the red chair. She's too nice. So she won't want to do that. She'll want to do that. Oh, not a fellow New Zealander. No.

And then they'll call her like Jab cinder or Tach cinder and she'll be like, boom! Jams and Jams and Jamb Sunda. Number five on the list of the top six things that will happen with Jacinda on Graham Norton. She'll take a Kiwi treat or souvenir. Yes, why do we do that?

Because we're so proud of ourselves. She's done to Whitakers. Do you reckon it'll be a pineapple lump next? Oh, yes, you could. Pass out along the couch. A timetam. We have these at home. Yes.

Or a bottle of New Zealand wine. Well, you just hold your horses there, champ. Number three on the list of the top six things that will happen. Let's say what you can finish your sentence flirt. She'll bashfully look at the camera and say thank you and he congratulates her as her time as Prime Minister during terrorist attacks, pandemics and generally the start of the end of the world. Thank you.

You should be laughter, laughter, laughter, laughter, laughter. And, you know, you had a lot. You really had, what I mean, Justin, you really had a lot of them thrown at you. Thank you. Here behind the ear? Thank you. Number three on the list of the top six things on my Jacinda on Graham Norton bingo card. She'll make a joke about

pulling strings to get in citizenship and then someone else on the couch will be like, I'll have one of those as well and she'll say, we'll see what we can do. Yeah, yeah, we'll see what we can do. Yeah, 100%. It'll be Ellen Carr. Yeah, he'll be Ellen Carr. Chattie Man. Chattie Man. Kate Winslet? Yeah, we could have a little Kate.

She's filmed here. Yeah, she has, yeah. Heavenly creatures. Yeah. Launched her career. What, she's talking about heavenly creatures at the weekend. Phenomenal. Yeah, and Melanie Linsky. Yeah.

And Kate Winslet. That bashed, that old woman's head in with a brick and a spook. With a brick and a penny hose. Yeah. As they all want to do that. Number two on the list of the top six things that will happen when Justin is on Graham Norton. They'll talk about how great New Zealand wine is, especially his wine and what makes New Zealand grapes great. Yeah.

We do have good wine. I think the best in the world. And then Kate Winslet will probably double down on a request for citizenship. Because she loves wine. Oh, no, as if I needed another reason to go there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And number one in the list of the top six things that will happen when Jacinna's on Graham Norton for the bingo card she'll say the word kindness

or kind or be kind or kindly or kindy or kind to surprise or kindle or kindredship okay so that took a bit of a turn in the middle of it yeah it'll start with k a and d it'll start with k i and d that's one thing for certain that is three stop six the zm podcast network play zm's flesh born and haley how lucky are we right now to be joined by the symphony conductor sarah grace sarah hello hello thanks for having me no our absolute pleasure is it insane to be, because last year's symphony was, what, 35 to 40,000

people? Is that what you imagined when you thought, I'm going to be a conductor? Oh, hell not. No, and it's epic and it just keeps growing. Yeah, like, you know, every time you're in a concert hall, it doesn't matter what audiences you're in front of it. It's just, it's pretty

amazing sharing what we get to do with audiences of any size, because if we don't have an audience, we don't have any, you know, what we've got nothing to share with, you know, what we're, put all our effort into. But it's, yeah, when you walk out and there's 40,000 people, you know what? People keep asking what it's like to conduct 40,000 people. And I actually don't think it's much different to conducting to, you know, say it's 10,000 or something,

because there's something strange. You walk out on that stage, and the visual, what you can see of the audience, kind of runs out before your eyesight runs out. It just blur up a hill. And so actually, to some point, doesn't actually feel anymore. Like, crazy, the vastness. It's like you walk out there and you think, okay, all of Auckland's here. Yeah, well, they basically are. They basically will be. How did you get into this?

Like, how does one become a conductor? Oh, right. Yeah, so, yeah. So I've been in musician my whole life. I was really fortunate that I never had that moment in life that I had to figure out what I was going to be when I grew up. I just kind of snowballed from starting music when I was really young and just kind of rolled into uni, just never thought about it. But I did, my undergraduate degree, I was in performance in composition. So, my instruments were piano, clarinet, sax and flute, and I was a composer.

And by the time I'd finished uni, I was doing a lot of conducting on the side. I was fortunate enough to have actually been asked by my high school I went to to come back and conduct the school band. And by the end, I finished the uni degree and realized that I didn't want to be a performer that conducted on the side, that I actually wanted to be a conductor that performed on the side. That was a big, big switch for me. So I, as every brave or stupid, one of the two, you know, like 21-year-old girls do, I packed myself up and I moved to the middle of Siberia. Of course.

Of course. That's a conducting hot spot of the world, isn't it? So, yeah, I moved to Novosibirsk to study, conducting. before going to St. Petersburg Conservatoire. Wow. Yeah, so I did all my studies over there, then came back, and yeah, I've been conducting ever since. And, yeah, it's an awesome gig.

And then I'm really, I love the variety of what I get to do because, you know, one day I will be on a main stage conducting, you know, whether it's Mozart or Marla, and then the next minute I will be out here with 40,000 in this, you know, crossover space. Wow. because I really truly believe there's no, I don't like this compartmentalizing of music where you say, oh, what music do you listen to you listen to classical?

Do you listen to rock? Yes. What do you like? I like good music. And I feel like every genre. There's good music and there's bad music in every genre. And I think, so I like good music. So every single day, I'm doing something different.

So I work a lot in this crossover space where we bring orchestras together with other kind of, typically what are those genres but I'm like well no put them together and they're their own genre do you see people I do this pretending to conduct and you're like oh my god look they don't even know what they're doing like Mickey Mouse and Fantasia

all the time everyone at air conducts it's great I love it I don't even know what it when you got your hands up like what is that the back people do they have to go I love it look to be honest with you half the time I think there's people at stage that don't know what I'm

right yeah okay okay well that's good so i was in the orchestra at intermedia we're going back some years i was in the brass section okay and i just pretended to play because i was too scared to do anything wrong um but the guy at the front doing that i i'd always say this people around me i'd be like what does that do like do we follow him and they're like no i we don't i don't know you just play what we've got in front of us and hope for the best well i'm hoping that Maybe my musicians don't say that. But basically a good, you know, but I do get us this all the time. Like, you know, what's the point of a conductor?

Can't musicians play without a conductor? They've got music in front of them, right? And the answer is yes, musicians can actually play without a conductor. Yeah, they can count. They've got the notes, etc. But the best way for me to explain, especially something the size of symphony is that you've got, you know, up to, you know, for the symphony, I think we've got, you know, more than 50 musicians on stage. Now, we've got the Auckland Philomonia, who are the best of the best,

musicians in the country, right? They're outstanding. But they come in with 50, you know, different approaches to this one piece of music because that's what a professional does. Like, we all approach our, you know, our work differently. My job is to unify. So, you know, I take all these ideas. We marry them together. And it's like I liken it to being, you know, like a sports coach. You can have the best players out there on a team. But unless you have a unified game plan, it's just going to be a dog's breakfast out there. Right? You've got to bring everything together. So, and then with my hands, yeah, there's, musicians do learn to read your gestures. Like, a good conductor in a rehearsal shouldn't have to speak very much.

The orchestras should be able to read through your hands and your gestures, what you're asking them musically, if you're any good. Amazing. Well, we mentioned before the new to the line-up shapeshifter, Kaylee Bell, DJ's Nice and Ehrlich, a major look, joining Faithless, the full-line band, Peking Duck, symphony number seven, hot tub time machine, the blackseeds, The exponents, that's as key way as it gets.

Looking forward to Manu Kufu's Symphony Festival on the 21st of March at Auckland's Domain next year. And like you said this year, all of Auckland was there. It was insane, 35,000, what, 40,000 people. So get your tickets now. Thank you so much for chatting to us this morning. Sarah Grace. Thank you.

The Z&M Podcast Network. Play ZM's Flashfallen and Haley. Now, there is an American expat. her name is Lexi B. Pause for the note. What a great note. Lexi B. Lexi B. What's up? I'm Lexi B. It's like, reminds me of Melby.

Originally from Houston now lives in Brisbane. Is getting quite confused by the fact that Australians say maths instead of math. Now, we've had this debate, obviously. Because of girl math. I was on a date the other day. And this guy goes something or rather something. around the right, you know, it's like girl math. And I was like, do you know that we, that's, we, we invented that?

He was like, no, couldn't believe it. Wow. Color him impressed. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Did it work? Yeah, worked.

Got what I wanted. Go what you wanted. Go what you want. Girl math. Still paying off. Girl math. Girl math. Girl math.

So obviously we had this debate because when we, when the organic process of girl math came about, we're just sort of set it and then we want to. to do our jingle and then put a title on it and then we were like, is it maths or is it math? Because my, when we say, oh, I've got maths next period or my first class is maths. Yes. To me, it's just

shortening mathematics with an apostrophe. No, no apostrophe. No, like you're shortening it you know, like it's, you're shortening the word just down to maths. Yeah, so mathematics is the full word. You never say I'm going to mathematics. No. So it's already a pluralized word.

And she said in America, and this is why I think we, ZREM, did girl math because it was like popping off in America, right? And then we were like, well, people won't know, you know, so we'll say girl math because it's the more global way. And she was like, why are you guys seeing maths?

And then the Australians came in in defense of maths saying you learn mathematics. Yeah. So that's why we say maths. Mathematics is treated as a plural looking word ending in an S, so the shortened form becomes maths. Now, US, I know, sorry, UK, New Zealand, Australia and Ireland kind of stick to that.

Yeah. And it follows British, English, traditional language. Yeah. Which New Zealand and Herod. But Australians treat maths as a mass noun. Yeah. Yes. Kind of covering a whole thing.

And so they shorten it to math. So a few other comments on the debate that she sparked. Yep. Some Aussies have pointed out, rich from Americans who say, Legos. Legos. Not Legos, like lagos. When they do Lego, they call it Legos.

You're doing a Lego set. They say Legos. Legos. That's weird. Yeah. And then Australians said, would it suit you more if we called it Matho? Matho. Matho works. We could do Matho.

I'm actually surprised Australians don't call it Matho. Matho. That's brilliant. Yeah, and so she said that by bringing this debate online, she's actually done a 180 and has agreed that the right if you go it is the shorting shortening of mathematics

and now I don't know what I say because one I very rarely use maths I use my calculator on my phone and that's the maths or I girl math which is its own thing I wish at the end of this debate I could say what was the

what's the correct one but I don't know well we're correct I know but we do both so us as I said before us, Australia, the UK, Ireland, South Africa and Singapore, Hong Kong because of the English influence and when they learn English. However, the Philippines, because they are so influenced by American English, the Philippines say math and United States and Canada.

Well, what did you say growing up in South Africa? Yeah. Maths. Maths. It was always, of course, we agree with you that it's the shortening of meth. I'd say I've just done my Afrikaans class and now next period I've got maths The ZDN podcast network

What's going on? ZDM's Fletch, Vaughan and Haley Oospestos You can't chuck it in the bin My uncle's one of the Yeah, wink wink wink to put a bit of water on it My uncle's one of the bloody Aussies that used to work in the mines And now he gets the free lung check things The rest of his life

What was he mining asbestos? In Australia. Yeah. This is something that was put in a lot of building products. Because it's flame retardant. It doesn't catch fire. Well, news that it's in some sand. Kids have been playing with.

There's a Kmart toy. The 14-piece Sandcastle building set. It's Magic Sand. Which, Coloured Sand? Yeah, it's coloured. There's black, magic sand, green, magic sand and pink magic sand. So they, if you've purchased that, I don't know. Well, what are they saying?

Immediately, obviously, stop playing with it. How did it get in there? Contact your local council and advice on where and how did it dispose of contaminated asbestos. What, now you're, because your kid won in magic sand, you're going to play an asbestos dumping fee? Do you know how expensive it is to get rid of asbestos? Put it in the bin.

No, I've had, I've had, um, asbestos removal done to a house before, and it was so expensive. Because they have to, like, mask up, and then they had to, like, cover it all up, so it doesn't go, because airborne, that's the problem. Like sand Like literally running your fingers through sand

Magic sand And have you ever played with magic sand It's way better in the slime Slime sucks Slimes shout out to every parent That's kid magically turns up Back home from the $2 shop With another effing thing of slime

I follow a Instagram page called Santagius And I tell you what I've followed it for years It's just cutting sand Yeah Sounds real good too It's just like cutting It's just slecks

Look at that sand Oh I don't That tickles a special part of the brain. That does. Pretty cool. That is it. Okay.

Oh, he ran a fork through it. Okay, now I want to follow Sandtegous. Sand and tages, guys, get amongst it. Free plug, non-spon. Well, I mean, we played it some dangerous stuff as kids, but we were never actively playing with asbestos. We had a... My parents' farm had a really old pigsty.

We used it as a pigstoy. Yeah. And the roof was asbestos. And I remember standing on top of it, and we worked out if you kicked it with the heel of your foot, it would pop out little circles. Bourne. That's like so bad.

That's so bad. So yeah, I'm dying of something. Hey, we're all slowly dying. Of one thing or another. I think a spes off lung cancer would probably be one of the worst ways to go. This is what we wanted to ask this morning. How dangerous was your toy as a kid? What did you play with as a kid that you're...

Oh my gosh. Looking back now, you're like, you would never be able to do that now. Like, even just like going on the farm. and, you know, shooting the slug guns. Oh, slug guns? Yeah, well, applause. Do you know what blows my mind? You just don't see them like you used to do pogo sticks.

Everyone came to mischief on a pogo stick. Man, they were dangerous, huh? They were so dangerous. And if, like, you fell off and then it pogoed up into your chin or you're skitted forward and you smash your face in the ground. Trampolines back in the day. Trampoline, someone just met exposed edges and springs that hurt like an MF if you landed on a groin spring pinch.

Yeah, but it made us to get you. It made us be the trampolinists. And we used to fly. You know, kids. these days, they're all just, you know. They're in little soft cages. So I said, nature provided us the best toy. You'll never be a tree.

And now I could not agree more. As a kid that climbed. I love the tree. Even just playgrounds back in the day, like, some of them used to just be concrete or like... Concrete and metal. And metal. Just metal, and you climb up the side of a metal thing and then slide down a metal thing. They had been cooking in the sun all day.

Yeah. A north facing steel slide? Yeah, a wild time. Yeah. Well, okay, the phone lines are open. 0,800 dials at him. Give us a call. Text in. Text in.

9-696. What was your dangerous toy as a kid? Kid Sand that's been recalled and it's led to a lot of shutdowns and like some play centres, early childhood centers have had to shut. It's been in schools and all sorts of stuff because there's

asbestos in the sea. Is this in New Zealand? Is this in New Zealand? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cancer causing, right? It's well known. It's carcinogenic. And there's different degrees of asbestos. Like there's not just, Asbestos is one thing.

There was different types of it. Right. So the stuff that was used in this was different to that and it's some of the worse than others. How did it get in the sand? What's the investigation? How did it get in it?

Come in me, I don't know. Well, isn't there a whole bunch of doors around New Zealand that have it? This was a new story only a few months ago. There's all these brand new doors that have asbestos. I thought we didn't do it. Same.

I thought we didn't do it. Well, anyway. We want to know how dangerous this was your kid's toy growing up. I mean, just growing up in the 80s and 90s was... Oh, we're hearing from it. There is so many...

Someone said, we had a swing set. We had a swing too. You know, the swing, and then it had... The thing we called the lullaby, the two-person swing, and a slide. Now, if you really got going on the swing and the lullaby at the same time and put it into motion, the whole thing would...

Would rock. Yeah. And we'd go up on two legs at a time. And we were just out there, and our parents were just like, well, at least they're outside. Yeah. And we're trying to tip this thing.

We're just trying to wreck everything. Oh my God My brother and I used to put our mum's smoke filters In the slug gun and shoot each other That'd be nice That's like a rubber bullet Well that's like a nerve Is it like a high-powered nerve

We all know what it was felt like To get shot in the back by a BB gun And then mum's trying to roll a roll a smoke And she's like Well yeah bloody kids have used all me filters I'm gonna have to go filter lifts on this one I'm gonna throw raw dog this tobacco Oh yeah

Nah should just send you down the dairy To buy filters I don't think you need a note to buy filters You tell them a Mards sent you I got town and chuck it on my tab and I'll sort it out next week. You know the sad thing about the downfall of smoking. Not as many voices like that around anymore. Oh, I know.

I've had a bloody guts full of you, kids. You absolutely. See, Dad? No, that's me mum. That's my mum. Someone, you said you did this fit inside a giant tractor wheel and they just pushed down a house. Yeah, we used to have the old 200-liter drums and sometimes they were metal. And we'd be inside. And then we'd just roll each other down a hill.

That's crazy. We used to do what we used to call, it's all coming back to me now. We used to call it land biscuiting, and we'd tow a tire behind the motorbike in the paddock. Yes. They used to do that at school gala. School gals,

they attach a rug or something, and they just hoon you around the magic carpet. The magic carpet. And then we used to just beat up a car with a sledgehammer. Yeah. Just smashing windows. I'm like six. Not anymore.

Moon shoes, they called them, sometimes they called them kangaroo or spring shoes. as well. They were shoes with springs in them and they were just the wildest. Someone else said the moon shoes and then we had moon shoes, thought they were great, turns out they all got recalled because hundreds of kids

broke their ankles. Maybe they're like boing like that, eh? We used to play with my dad's old figurine farm set from when he was a kid when we were little and we'd like suck on it and like all the paint was coming off. Turns out it was lead. Lead paint, of course it was. Of course it was. Yeah. My great-dad used to live

behind Kay Martin Henderson so not in a farm or a big open space and we used to get a slug and put targets on the fence and shoot them off. And any ones that we missed were just at the backside of Kmart. My dad brought me a bow and arrow. I was eight. Me and my cousin used to shoot them up in the air and try dodge them as they fell back down.

I remember doing that. But not actual sharp arrows, right? With a bow and arrow. But remember lawn darts? Lawn dance was this thing that was a bit like patonk. You'd put a target out and then you'd stand at the other end of the lawn and you'd flick these darts. And they'd spin around and then they had like a dart

And so they'd shoot down People were getting impaled left for it and centre of those things And then they were like maybe this isn't a good game Amazing Yeah Oh like back in the day how when you'd have a swing set In my day it was the black rubber mats You know and a bit of bark

So if you hit them they were soft Remember when they were just on concrete And you used to crack your head open on the concrete Yeah Played with Mercury in school I've played with Mercury too When a thermometer broke And you flick it across the table

it. I know wild, eh. That's like highly poisonous. Ellie, what was your toy as a kid? Well, it wasn't a toy. We had a school gala at college many years ago, and you paid $5 and you could do firewalking. You could walk over the hot rock. That's dumb. Hey, that's dumb. What you're paying me to? I'm paying for the privilege of burning my feet. Yeah, it was really fun, actually. You just had to make sure you moved really quickly. Yeah, cool. What if you fell over on them? Yeah, what if you fell face forward and put your hands out?

Oh, they had kind of like people on either side, just in case. But no, you just had to move it. Oh, that is the wildest thing I've heard at a school gala. That's crazy. I thought being towed behind a digger or a tractor was bad. Yeah, Ellie, thank you. In Fiji, we couldn't afford fireworks at New Year's Eve. So we made bamboo guns.

Basically, you get a piece of bamboo and you pour kerosene in it, and then you pump something in it, and you light it, and it would have blows it. I love this so much. Do you remember as a kid doing the lighter bombs when you go, and you get them going and you'd chuck him on the ground and they'd be like, boom. Yes, I don't.

That's so bad. Yeah. Someone said homemade slip and slide. It was a tarpaulin water slide but it usually would like, we'd never, because we had a fair bit of junk around, we never had a clear piece of lawn,

so it'd be like over like bits of wood and wood chips. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we weren't allowed to use much water because mum said we're on tank water. Oh, blue. So dry, dry. Yuck. We used to go can.

camping at a place that had a concrete slide. Ow. A concrete slide. And you had to go down on a piece of cardboard and if you came off the cardboard you'd just scrape your knuckles on the side.

Oh. We used to make deadly nightshade soup as a kid. You'd go and find all the weeds on the lawn and pick them out and make soups and then at the end of it had to have a little sip. That's insane. That's insane.

Don't do that. More people playing with Mercury. Or someone said stilts. I remember when stilts. Stilt. 90s. They were like, not that tall, like not super tall,

but used to like go on the main and like balance around. Original bay blades were kind of dangerous, not modern bay blades, the original ones you could create sparks and we got, we modified ours and put little blades in the, so effectively you just,

this is great. Oh, there's just so many. We did a homemade flying fox. The plan was to make it end in the creek, which would be great, great place to drop a flying fox into water. However, we didn't allow for how heavy we were.

So at the absolute peak of the speed on our flying fox, we all hit the ground. So in Dexter, when me and my friend were eight, oh, God, I remember doing this. We broke open glow sticks and rubbed the glow fluid all over our arms and our entire body, so we were growing. Probably some complications from that coming, but not yet. Not yet.

Yeah, maybe a diagnosis in a few years. Yeah, maybe. We used to abseil down the dump hole at home. We'd try to strut to a tree and we would go down, So, offal holes on farms, they dig these massive, and everything, oh, dude, everything's down there. You just chuck everything down there. And they're, they're abseiling down into the, oh my God, no, we would have got such a hiding if we played with the awful hole. The Fletchborn and Haley, big pod.

Now, just a little update, because we did pop it up on our socials. End of last week, I sent a DM2, Jason Memoir, offering to be his, dialect coach because he is going to be filming a New Zealand TV show soon. It was a bit awkward. Well, I'll just say he is active now. Right. And has not seen

it. Oh, okay. So you're in the inbox, but he hasn't seen it. Let me just do a quick little check to make sure he's still following me. Do you know what I mean? Hang on. Followers. Jesus.

Oh my God, this is going to be the worst moment of my life on here right now. Because he's had a bit much. No, he's there. He's still following me. Okay, well, he's a busy man. Yeah, I know, but I might give it a bump. Actually, we're having some drinks after the show today.

I might give it a bump. Right. Stay tuned for our Christmas podcast special later. But anyway, we're talking about celebrities on social media because the girlies were sharing with us this morning. How do... I think the word used was trap. Yeah, yeah.

So move over Shannon's hack. Carlin's got a hack. And it's to get some. attention from a celeb. Shannon, how do you feel about this? Sorry, I'm just, I hate when you guys fire. Oh, I mean, I'll feel better if I get a shout-out. Okay, shout-it to Shannon in the workshop.

Thank you, thanks, yes. Fletch is about to absolutely... We don't do shout-outs, but... Carry on. So anyways, obviously this probably isn't going to work with someone like Taylor Swift, who doesn't really use her own social media. Because it's so huge that you couldn't see...

Yeah, yeah. But if this is someone like a bee, or a C or a D list celeb. I'm talking, mine would be maybe Cody Simpson. Okay, yeah, great example. Are you still thirsting over Cody Simpson? Absolutely. Cody Simpson?

So what I'm going to do is... It's a swimmer's bond, isn't it? Yeah. And he can still sing. Fire up my Instagram. How is he only 28? It feels like he's been around forever. Yeah, because he was young.

It's quite a long. Yeah, he was very young. Okay. Anyways, I'm going to take the best maybe little selfie of myself I've ever taken in my life. Okay. Pop it on my close friends and then in the close friends ad, just chuck in a little Cody Simpson. Why? Because you can't remove yourself from someone else's close friends.

If they've opted you in. Oh my God. So if you're a celebrity and you go to your feed, you're going to see close friends because Instagram prioritizes your close friends stories. Yeah. And here's my thinking. Some people have been trying this on TikTok and some people have had success with very minor celebrities, right? Yeah.

I think this could work because also you'd be like, huh, who's that? Why have they put me on my close friends? Yes, totally. And then they would click. Yeah, they'd click it. They'd click. But I don't use close friends. You know, I'm for full public consumption.

But you don't have to use close friends. But you could. But if I wanted to and then put. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Or you could do that trick and like just put him on it

And no one else That's so sad eh But he wasn't new close friends And you're like It's literally just me trying to get the attention Of a very famous man with the hottest girlfriend on earth But he wouldn't know Yeah

Look I That's actually quite genius to be honest And it's really good I will say I do think the three of you Are gonna all of a sudden be added to a few people's close friends Because of this Oh my God have pleasure

I'll just block people I'll unfollow them immediately Oh okay I know the old watch Very different responses Oh my God, what a delight I'd love to see what you've got Haley loves the attention

I love the attention Call me a close friend The ZM Podcast Network Play ZM's Flashfallen and Haley We want to talk now About if you hate your partner's job What about the job Is it that you don't like

There's a list of jobs Where the people are sharing The professions that their spouses Have that they don't love For various reasons I mean I guess the different hours could be, like if you were, imagine being with someone from hospo, but you'd never see them

all night, right? You'd never see them, yeah, you'd never see them all night, or being like, with us 4 a.m. Didi-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- And then in bed, well, not you, because you don't value your sleep, but, you know, going to bed at 8 o'clock. Yeah, and then be like, shh, you turn the TV down.

Yeah. Or they come, oh, like, I always thought this, I mean, I find it quite attractive, but I think if you were, like, married and it was a daily thing, mechanics coming home with their like oily fingers and they're like big dirty clothes and you're kind of rip them off them at the door and be like get in here naked so I

counted by the argument and you kind of turned that into something you sounded like by the end of it you'd fully converted to why didn't you see a mechanic? I ripped a fat Ui mid-sentence as we love here on the show of that year but you want to be like smelly jobs like a fisher or something and they come home and they're just like covered in or like if they have to go away for three two or three weeks at a time or

always travel for business. That's when you put an arrangement in place, right? You're sure. Yep. Menogamy. Sorry, carry on. I experienced an oil worker once. Reads one of these messages from this list.

My ex was gone for months at a time, and every time he came back, there were suddenly a few different people messaging him. So, you know, have been away for a long time. Psychologists, because they can't, apparently can't switch it off. They mentalize you. And you'd go away.

off at them at something and they'd be like, now what you're doing here? That's actually a really toxic behaviour. Yeah, and you're just like, just clean the dishes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So was the dishes thing a deeper issue for you though? Because what is the dishes actually saying? In your childhood? Maybe it stems

from that. Dad. Dad, your dad. Dad, Dishes, dad. I'm getting dad. You're like, no, just do that. I think there's more to psychology than D. Dishes, dad. Is there? I don't know. There is. And that's what takes all. those years to study. So many messages pouring in already.

Okay, this is great. This is what we want to know this morning. Call us, 0-800-Diles-Eam. 9-6-9-6. Do you hate your partner's job? Yeah, what do you hate about it? And why? We are talking about what job your partner has

that you don't like. You don't like your partner's job. Or an aspect about it. Yeah. And I'm surprised that somebody took this long. Someone said the army away for weeks or months at a time, so many last minute trips,

working nights, weekends and missing birthdays, weddings and anniversaries. Also, he could be home, but you don't see him because of the Have you checked behind Have you checked behind the pot plants Because that might be a man in a gilly suit

Could be in the gillies I'd just be like I've been here for a week Next to the pot plant Imagine you're just going about you to Oh my God, what the hell Yeah I told you

He's perfectly painted himself The same colour as the wall Yeah Yeah yeah He's watching Rizine He's watching What's a Rizine colour

This one's quite I imagine this would be hard Married to a cop Anytime he's late home I check the news Oh yeah If they're busy, they couldn't really be texting and say, hey, look, we're late because, you know, there's a murder or something.

I'm chasing a robber. Yeah, put my... Running. Hey, how'll be I'm late? I'm just chasing a robber. Put my lasagna in the microwave. I'm on the table. Sorry about this.

It would be horrible, though, wouldn't it? Dating any first responder. Oh, fire. Yeah, and then the trauma as well. Oh, totally. Someone said, Vaughnall love this. My boyfriend sells tractors and he loves his job, but he never stops talking about tractors.

I listened to an extent, but then just shut off. He's happy, though, because he's just still talking about tractors. They've got real big wheels. It's nice and here's a hobby. And then today I held up lines of cars when I drove on the road near the farm. Oh, yeah, I tried to hug to the left on a blind corner where no one could overtake me anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I waved them past, but they wouldn't go past.

I was waving them past. You're way on the road. You've got so many roads on your field. You've got roads on your farm. You don't need to go on the road road. No, there might be a contractor. They're going to a different farm. I don't care.

And those tractors can go fast. Well, do it. Oh, I'm sorry, that it's a crucial part of this economy is holding you up for five seconds. Go through the paddocks. Go through the paddocks. Go through the paddocks, is all we're saying. That's what they're there for. And same with those farmers that put their sheep on the road.

Get a tunnel like other farmers. Yeah, borrow under the tunnel. Excuse me, it's not nearly as cute. How good is it going in the South Island? They're like, only in New Zealand. No, I like it when they've got the tunnel that goes under the road. That's a dairy farmers. Yeah, yeah, because I'm not allowed to walk across the road because of all the poos.

Right. Got to get a poo's tunnel. Let's start, take some calls. Bex, what do you hate about your partner's job? Good morning. He is a train driver, so he... About questions. Don't you've got born started about trains.

He works the most random hours, and if he works like five or six days in a row, no two shifts start at the same time. Oh, so there's no, like, structure to your week. Wait a minute, the saying is, like running on time like a train, like a train schedule. It's supposed to be the same every day. It's supposed to be...

Oh, wow. What trains does he drive? Oh, the trains, I... The two-two ones. The two-two ones. Yeah. What does he drive? Just the two-tube...

Does he do the big ones? The big ones? Oh, damage. Wait, cool. Does he like tows, like freight? Or is it a passenger train? Yeah, no, it's freight, yeah. So he...

Oh, so you can be on the big one. Pardon? Ding, ding, ding, ding. Wait, wait, wait, bex, big, big, fix, big, big, have you... Bex, have you ever gone in one of the carriages, you know, just like hung out in one of the carriages? No, apparently he is allowed to take me if he wants,

but I have declined that... Why do you decline? One of the greatest offers a man couldn't give a woman. No, almost Bex, it would be boring, eh? How does he go with him? Can I go with him? Can I go with him? Is he by me? Can I go with him one day? Am I allowed to go? I'm sure he would. He'd love to take you. Can you just get him to personally DM?

God! I didn't have thought about the tunnel. Oh my lord, Bex The tunnels We've got our own one as well Does he go through the tunnels, Bex? He goes through all the tunnels Okay, well get him to DM Vaugh

Okay, yeah All the kids raving at the train So I'm just going, we're going to leave it there, Benz, thank you, Bex Get him to DM Vaughan, that's lovely, thank you Emma, what is your fiancé's husband? Emma, what does your fiancé do What does he do that you're not a fan of? Oh well, he's also very very,

farmer um it's it's after um he spent a day in the tractor in the summer um and his ar stinks his uh he just took a sip of water as you were just like after it and the tractor his ass stinks what because he's been sweaty in the seat got a bit of crotch yeah just yeah just sweaty it's just like gross I don't smell so bad in the shower. You walk in and you can just know that that's ass sweat. Yeah, I'm like, get away from me.

Don't touch me. Don't touch me. Don't come in and say hi, darling, just go straight to the shower. I love that. Emma, thank you, Emma. Some messages and so many, what job does your partner do that you don't like? My husband's a truck driver. He works nights.

I have been waking up at 4 a.m. Because he comes home and he wants a yap. I'm just like, I am sleeping. What a yap! Babe, had a hell of a night on the road. Oh, my God. I saw a six. I saw her an 18 wheel.

Kenworth. Shit, it was gone. Let's through another truck with the bright lights on it. Sorry, someone just message, I'm pregnant and that smelly ass comment made me spew. So good.

Runs at small building company. I love the daily call about what subcontract had let me down and was all this bloody useless or what mega rich asshole hasn't paid me yet and it's just constant.

My partner's a teacher and I hate it because she always swears at the TV from 610 to 630. Oh, when the news is on? But what part of the news? Not the breaking news at the start, sort of just general government? That's when they get the politicians on, yeah. Oh, yeah, right.

Talk about that sort of stuff. This person hates their partner's job of being unemployed. Oh, okay, yeah. It's not really a job. My ex was a bartender, a personal trainer, and worked at men of steel. Fair to say, that was a bad combo. Yeah, but do you know what I may? Can we get photos on the text machine?

Yeah, they cheated on them. I'm looking for a personal trainer. Yeah. I'm in a cocktail, you know? Yep. So if you just see a photo through. Oh, a bartender, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then men of steel, you...

We assume... What a lubed up. Shiny, shiny, gyraider. Well, Haley's going to need someone for an engagement party. My engagement party. Yeah, you never know. Someone else's husband drives trains. I feel like I'm missing out on some train rides here.

That bit about Sykes did tickle me I work in specialist mental health As a cognitive behavioural therapist Yeah And my husband's favourite line is Don't Therapise me Just isn't about anything I do Yeah

My response is I'm not I'm wifing you I'm oh Wow My partner is a private investigator In a large part of his job Is digging into criminal complaints To try to get the accused

Off their charges As someone who works on the opposing side Of the criminal justice system and has done a lot of work with victims, I struggle massively with this. Wow. That's amazing, because we did have some messages in as well because we asked on Instagram.

Someone said, yes, he works for the Los Angeles Police Department and I'm a defence lawyer. That's like a wrong, that's like one of those TV shows. Enemy's lovers, it shouldn't work, but it does. It's literally a subplot on the rookie. I was going to say it's on the rookie. It's on the rookie. It's on the rookie. What are some of the other responses?

My husband works for the railroad. Unpredictable scheduled, nice fat check, though. Yeah, fattie check. Someone said he's a filthy dirty mechanic. Wait, they get paid to drive the trains. I assumed it was a passion project. A passion project. Someone said he's a goat colour.

So he's only home for eight months, eight days a month. It sucks because they actually like him. Sounds perfect for that free time. The goat culling, is he like wild goats. He's out shooting the wild goats. Must be. Imagine if he was doing that from a train. Dude, can you imagine?

He's hanging out the side of the train and there's just goats on the sort of. And he's like, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Great job. Oh my God. The ZN. Podcast Network. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day, day. Uh, do-do-to-do-to-dood-to-dood-to-da-to-da-to-do do-dud-to-da-to-do. This week here at Fact of the Day, we are talking about stars of the movie.

So often the titzi-le, a character. of the film that is on screen for a shockingly small amount of time yesterday, Beetlejuice. Today, Bruce. Bruce. Almighty.

No. Bruce Willis. No. Bruce, who'd call it kid, Bruce anyway? Bruce, the shark. From Jaws. Oh.

The mechanical shark known as Bruce was supposed to be on screen almost like all the time. Yeah. However, it just constantly. something kept breaking down. It was made for fresh water, and the salt water that they were shooting in

just did not comprehend, they did not want to work. So Stephen Spielberg, on the fly, had to be like, well, how are we going to do this? And just basically did point of view shots. So, like, how the shark would see people underneath, whereas you were supposed to be seeing the shark. Music, editing, and of course,

the most famous, probably the most famous aspect of Jaws is this. So good. So it probably made his movie better. Yes, it did. They said they absolutely did because the parts where you do actually see the shark. It's very obviously not a real shark. I've seen the mechanical one. Isn't it?

Yeah, it's at Universal tour. It's there, eh? It's just like, it's shit. But I mean, that movie's very, when was that? 77. So I mean, for the day it was good. But you're right. It's the anticipatory.

the suspense of it it's the not seeing that works so well and that's also why they reckon that it caused people to be so scared of swimming it's because they thought they wouldn't see the shark coming because you don't see the shark in jaws no that's so good or in real life

like that thing will just be on you so Spielberg called it Theatre of the Mind I think he borrowed that term I think that was a well-established term by that stage I'm going to restart the theme song As I tell you, that the movie ran for 124 minutes. Do your maths on that. That's two hours, four minutes.

Wait, hang on, I'm going to do the math. So 60 minutes. Yeah, two hours four minutes. Two hours four minutes. And the shark was on screen for less than four minutes. Holy! Of that entire. So two hours of not.

I had two hours of no shark. Does that include the shark point of view shots? No, it's only when you see the shark. Only when you see the shark. Wow, that's incredible. Some form or another. I haven't watched this movie in years. It's worth it.

I'm not watching it with my kids, though, because they're already scared of the ocean. No, no, no, no, don't. You'll traumatise them. Yeah. But me. You gotta start them with Nemo and SpongeBob and stuff. That's why I think that was called Bruce the Shark and Nemo. Well, no, was it Nemo or Shark's Tale?

No. But that... It was Nemo. I saw somebody as went to Halloween as Nemo in a plastic bag and their friend was holding the plastic bag. That's cute. That's so good. It was a large plastic bag. Yeah, I'm going to steal it for next year.

I think it's a great idea. No, we've already got our sort of for next year. Is it another Halloween party where no photos will ever be passed? No photos. No photos. Okay. That's going to bite us on the arms one day. No photos, no photos.

So today's Fact of the Day for a titular character that spends back of all time on screen is Jaws, where Jaws the shark was on screen for less than 3% of the movie. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. The ZM Podcast Network Play ZM's Fleshforn and Haley Well, in continuing my I guess vow to be always open with our listeners and to embrace the mang

I reckon yesterday was one of the worst messages I've had to send to someone I, how did I word it, have connected with physically recently. I mean, I'll say it could be worse. Oh, no, 100%. It's probably not where the listener's mind is going, to be honest. Oh, yeah, true, too true. Well, people have to tell people worse things all the time.

When they've contracted all sorts of things. Yeah, when they've contracted something. Oh, no. And then you've got to do the right thing, which is you've got to inform. You've got to do your due diligence. Yeah, yeah, to do due diligence. What? I think is out a stroke. Due diligence.

What does that mean? Jesus, I am really. Due diligence. Now I'm saying. I know what. That's not the right. You've got to use, do your due diligence. Why can't he say it? You've just got to do the right thing.

Yeah, the right thing is you're going to do due diligence. Yes, it is. Due diligence is. Jew diligence is different from jujitsu. It is. It is what you do before something. Yes. This is after.

Well, this is post. I've never thought about that. Due diligence is, I would have thought. Pre. It's checking all the boxes. What's the post version of due diligence? The right thing. The right thing.

Okay, what? Well, this isn't what I'm referring to anyway. I haven't had to make that phone call yet. So, okay, just a little recap, I really screwed up my face at the top of October by picking at things and putting all the wrong things in it, leading to what was eventually, after a number of doctors' appointments, was a staff infection diagnosis on my face. I went on antibiotics and it cleared quite quickly and then I was like, here we go. And then what happened was I didn't really continue to take good care of it.

And so the staff returned. And that's when I went to see Dr. Shawnee in an emergency because no other doctors were free. And he gave me more antibiotics and then it got rid of it again. And then while I was away recently just last week, I noticed a couple of spots coming back. and this is on my face. And I was like, here we go again. So I messaged Dr. Shawnee on the weekend because he's not allowed to be my doctor.

You can't have friends that are your doctors. But I was like, before I can go and book in with my doctor, it's back, what should I do? And he said, I need to do staphylococcus decolonization. What? Staphylococcus decolonization. Basically is like I've got a very strong, robust,

wahimator staff infection. which is strong and resilient and is not responding, and it's becoming recurrent. So I have to, you've got to do like a protocol for seven days, which means... A protocol. A protocol. What's the protocol? So it's basically just shoving stuff up your nose because that's where staff can live

and putting things on the face and trying to have we going on to antibiotics again. But part of it was I've got to like hot wash everything that I've touched with my clothes, my bedding and everything. So I ring mum and I was away and I said, can you destroy it? rip the bed and she was so good. She washed my 35-year-old teddy bear and all this. She sorted my house and gave everything a really good wash, all the towels, flannels, anything my face has touched. And then Dr. Shawnee did point out it's worth letting people know whose bed you've slept in that they're going to need to do the same.

You have been in so many hotels. I thought you were going to say you've been in so many beds. I have. I've been in so many hotels. But they bloody strip those things and send them. Oh, they send them to a battery and they doubt those things. They're getting good bleaching. Yeah. Good. And thank Christ.

Because even I, you know, I'm definitely the least grubby of the three of us. Excuse me. Well, it's fine. Well, I'm not denying that. You've sullied some sheets in your time, my friend. I'm just like, these things need to be burnt. Burnt. Burt.

I know. I'm not calling. I've literally stayed at maybe like 10 hotels in the last two weeks. Like I'm not. That's not my due diligence that I'm going to be doing there. I think also part of the reason you're so sick and your body isn't healing because you're not sleeping. I'm travelling a lot. You're not eating.

You're partying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? You just gave me a slice of apple. I'm reversing it. Oh no, you've had a whole apple a day to keep the doctor away, not a slice of apple. The slice will do. Get off my back anyway.

So it may have to let someone. know. And then I... Wait, you haven't let them know yet. No, no, no, I have. So I had to send... So they need to burn their sheets. I had to send a physical, connected person, a hookup, a message being like, hey, hey. Super doper good week.

Letting you know that staff is back, baby, and you have to hot wash all of your staff. Isn't that the same for, is it scabies? Yes, scabies, big bugs, everything. Cooties as well. Cooties, girls have cussed in a girl. Yeah, gross, don't kiss a girls. They've got cooties. I'm just looking, there's good sale on sheets at briskos at the moment.

Well, do you think I have to deliver this dude some fresh sheets? I think you owe this. I think it's a fresh sheets. And a mattress protector, and actually maybe a new mattress. This is not sexy stuff. And I doubt I'm going to be getting a second overnight hang because, yeah, I reckon having to message someone being like, Hey, hot wash all your stuff because I've got a facial staff, mate.

Ain't it. The ZN. Podcast Network. What could it you, Vaughan? I just packed up. I saw Fletch packing up and then Pavlov Dog just started packing up because Fletch leads the way. Well, we're actually off to have a fun afternoon together.

The five of us. Yes. We're doing some podcast records for over the summer, our cocktail special. On a Tuesday, which is the only day. Haley has three. I know. And I feel very responsible for the fact

that we have to, you know, have drinks on a Tuesday to accommodate me and I appreciate it. But we're not getting carried away like we did two years ago. I don't need any more new scars on my knee. We're very responsible. Okay, they're calling it the Kiss of Doom on TikTok. Okay. This is, of course, a new theory,

calling it the forehead kiss of doom, suggesting it signals an impending breakup or end of a situation ship. Oh. It's when they say, when you receive the buy on the forehead you have 48 hours left before that

that is done. They're so repulsed to kiss you on the lips or even the cheeks. And then it's sort of tongue and cheek but then a lot of people comment and being like, this is the most accurate thing ever because it's not into me.

But the kiss in there's lovely. Yeah, but then followed by a kiss on the mouth or kiss somewhere else. Not just the forehead. They say, some people are like, it's romantic. It's a genuine love, but a lot of people saying, no, it is like they no longer want to be super intimate with you.

It's dismissive. It's sort of just, you know how kisses get real tight after a while? Like that. But just the height difference. Sometimes it's nice. Just kiss somebody on the forehead. Someone said the longest they went after a forehead kiss was four days before it was over. Wait, is this?

What generation is this? What do you think? Well, it's TikTok, what do you think? Well, they say it's just a sign that your partner is about to leave you. Yeah, well, if you get a forehead kiss. What you should do today, women in particular, listen to me, as a sane sound of mind woman, Haley Sprout, if your partner, boyfriend, if you're done in trouble.

She's a part-time. She's a part-time, same person. Part-time, and now I'm on. If your partner kisses you on the forehead today, what you want to do is you want to draw back, and you're going to go, and you'll be like, don't you love me anymore. Just start me.

Don't do that. Start there. Don't do that. See, tell me all the things that I, why, all the reasons you don't love me anymore. Tell me. Okay. And you push them and you push them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, really.

What have I ever done to you? Uh-huh, that sounds healthy. That sounds like a good start. All I did was try and love you. Are you breaking up with me? Yeah. Are you leaving me? Is it because I'm ugly?

We start there. Off we go and we just let that. That's just my little relationship advice. How do you do it? I don't know. Drink. Drink. If you like.

today's podcast. Tell your friends, you could send them the link. And if you don't have any friends, just pretend you did. Yeah, great. And rate and review. And maybe get out there and try to make some friends. Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley.