ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - November 19th 2025

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

Dodgy Black Friday sales Kumeu throuple's house division Top 6 - Recipes that don't need milk, cheese or butter AI is writing performance reviews Word of the year Shannon's Hack SLP - Would you date ...a hypnotist? Wicked Review Why did you cry on your birthday? Vaughan's kids TV questions Fact of the day How over the top do you go for Christmas? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From the ZDM Podcast Network This is Fleshwon and Haley's Big Pod Thanks to animates Making Happy Happen for Pets Good morning, Fleech Fawn and Haley Well, New Zervorn about the changes to the Air New Zealand Air Points program Yeah
Starting point is 00:00:16 What are you, you're a silver Are you still going to be a silver? I know, no You get knocked down a tear I don't, I don't, I'm unfamiliar as a man who's, you know, still dizzying at the elevation to I don't know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:00:31 No, you might actually drop down to bronze. It's going to be bronze. It's going to go bronze. Why are they getting rid of Jade? We like Jade. I don't know. Bronze, silver, gold, platinum black. I'm so close to elite.
Starting point is 00:00:44 I'm a number of, I'm just a coupley flights away. She's flying around the country for work. I've been knocking Shannon off of her elite, perch. Well, she's a nepo. She's a nepo elite. Because of the boyfriend. But you know the boyfriend's going to get Coru Black. He will.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Kotu Black, and she'll be Nepo, can we say Nepo black? I don't think we can say she's Nepo Black. You can get nepoed in on that, yeah, can you? That'll be, yeah, you'll be able to nepo your friends and family. All right. On that?
Starting point is 00:01:11 Oh, guy. Oh, well. What else change? Nothing. Okay. Nothing, really? Nothing. It's a bit of a rejuice. The world goes on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Keeps turning, keeps burning. Keeps burning, yeah. the top six on the way with everything so expensive especially dairy I've got the top six recipes classic recipes that you can make that don't need milk cheese or butter
Starting point is 00:01:39 because that's all gone up again hasn't it? That's gone up exponentially which is weird because we kind of make so much of it yeah it's weird hey it's all made here but we it's a hard pill to swallow and we can't afford to hide the pill
Starting point is 00:01:53 in the cheese next on the show though Black Friday sales have already started, actually. I love this. Yeah, so prepare for me to be sort of tuned out for a lot of the show. As you shop. As I'm going to give you some things to look out for, because some of these sales
Starting point is 00:02:10 are a little bit dodgy. Yeah, sometimes you're not getting a good deal, eh? Not at all. The Fletchborn and Haley Big Pod. What would it be in New Zealand? The consumers consumers people. Yeah, consumerism of New Zealand. Consumer NS. Consumer NS.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Consumer NS. I'm sure they'll be keeping an eye out for this as global equivalence of those are for Black Friday sales taking the piss basically so Black Friday actually falls on the 28th of November Black Friday and it used to be in the US
Starting point is 00:02:45 because it's all about Thanksgiving used to be that it was just this one day a Friday and they'd have these sales and people go crazy on Black Friday and now it's literally weeks long and globally even though we don't celebrate Thanksgiving. Like, we haven't always had it, right?
Starting point is 00:03:01 We haven't always been into it. No, I feel like the internet. Did it to us. It was the birth of the internet. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And spread these American ideals. These capitalism, capitalistically driven sales pitches.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Cople, cobble, cobble, cobblom. Because it's like... Thanksgiving's over next stop Christmas. Yeah, basically. America, Thanksgiving's the big family one, eh? Lots of people go home for Thanksgiving, but don't all go home for Christmas? Yeah, which is.
Starting point is 00:03:27 weird, eh? Yeah, so that's the way that there's, so the Christmas is much more about presents. Yeah, thanks I've celebrated Thanksgiving once when I was in Oman and my friend was American and we did a Thanksgiving thing. It was nice. So I didn't know what the deal is with consumer NZ.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Is it a government department? So I Googled it was established in 1959 to promote the interests of consumers. It's a not-for-profit charity. Yeah, it's not a government organisation. Is it just looking after us? Because they'll go after anyone, like the government or anyone that's... So then, following the establishment in the Ministry of Consumer Affairs in 1986,
Starting point is 00:04:01 the Institute lost its special legal protection and government funding. In 1989, it became an incorporated society funded by the member's subscriptions in 2007. It's renamed Consumer & Z. So it is, I didn't know this. Well, they will be responsible, I guess, for, if you are suspicious that a company is taking the purse and using deception and misleading tactics for Black Friday sales, they are the people that will, I guess, look out for it.
Starting point is 00:04:29 But here is a list of some ways that maybe your Black Friday sale is a little bit dodgy. Okay. And not so honest. Claiming storewide sales, like 50% off store wide. And it's like little asterisk unless it's new and actually like the cool stuff. And not lotto tickets. Yeah, you know what? We need to get a Black Friday on a lotto.
Starting point is 00:04:52 50% off lotto tickets. Some half-prose lotto tickets or something. That'd be nice. Yeah. Nine buck. It'll be like, or not Apple products. Yeah. Or any, you know, stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:05:03 I always go to PriceSpy. Yes. You were talking about this? Yeah, it's, um, that's a good one. And you can search for the product you want, and it'll show you a graph of the price over the last six months or a year sometimes. So this is the other one to look out for. Hang on.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Did it, did it, fake price comparisons. So saying 40% of, off when actually a week or so before they've hiked the price. Or it is 40% off. Yeah, they know that this is coming. They long game it. Yeah, they put it up.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Creep it up. You don't even notice. And then they say 30% off, we're back to the original price. We're going, shit, 30% off for that shirt. Yeah. I'll get it, but you're actually just paying what they need it to be worth anyway. Count down timers, that falsely imply limited time. Like, buy now! I always want to when it's like, three people are looking at this.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Jill from Timaru purchased and you're like, that's eight. Nine people have this in their cart. Did she? Fine print exclusions that contradict the headline sale. Up to 70% off but that's on four items and everything else is 20% off. So they've lured you into the sale and now I'm here.
Starting point is 00:06:12 You want to watch your up to 70s and also you're up to G's. Up to homey. Up to homey. More just like up to. Yeah. Those normally come in quite late at night. Yeah, they do. So lots of retailers have been fined around the world for doing this.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Because actually it's deception. Like you're not supposed to do this. I feel like if you've got your eye on something, you know if the price is good or not, right? Well, things are only worth what you're willing to pay for them. That's true. You know what I mean? Wow, wow. That's deep, man.
Starting point is 00:06:42 That's market. So if it's a good deal for you, you buy it. Well, it's like when you go to the markets. When you're overseas and you're like, I'm not paying $2 more. Or I'll haggle and it's like, are you happy with the price? Yeah. If you're willing to pay for it, that's what it's worth to you. Anyway, look out.
Starting point is 00:06:58 Yeah, because the Black Friday sales are everywhere. They've already started now and they'll be going for probably all bloody month. The Z&M Podcast Network. Vaughan. Yes. Your suburb is in the news again. This is QMU. Kew.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Northwest Auckland. Yes. Rodney District. Technically we're in the Rodney District. That's why we can buy booze at the supermarket. But yeah, yeah, yeah. We still put us, can't... No.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Suck it T out of two. Now, this is the ongoing saga, this news headline. We may have even talked about this in 2020 or 2020. Three, it's been going that long. Headline, Thruples, multi-million dollar property divided by court after six-year dispute. But saga may not be over. Yeah, I remember this. This has been going on for ages.
Starting point is 00:07:46 This was first, like, COVID years. Yeah. This was first in the news. Yes. And people love this. story. It's like you can find a story like on websites overseas, like the Daily Mail and stuff. People just get so curious about any kind of
Starting point is 00:07:57 other relationship structure than a heterosexual monogamous coupling. So this is what the story says. A former thruple must split a farm three ways. A judge has ruled in the latest stage of what's been a lengthy legal battle over
Starting point is 00:08:13 a multi-million dollar cumulative property that the trio jointly owned. This is stuff reporting. Well then it's straightforward. How is this taken so long? I don't know, I guess, like, any relationship separation, it's never easy. No, it's all, it was all like,
Starting point is 00:08:30 the family court were like, two my, I don't know, man, I don't know, man, I don't know, three, yeah, I don't know, what do you mean? And then the high court was like, whoa, I just kind of got passed out. The amount they must have spent on lawyers makes my nose bleed. Three people, lawyers just must be like,
Starting point is 00:08:47 wow, this is going to be a hard one. Well, that's one they say it may not be over because there may be some appeals. There may be an appeal, which would make it drag on even longer. So it was one of the, you know, one or two of the three being like, no, we're not happy with an even split. Maybe. Because maybe, I don't know, but I don't know. Isn't.
Starting point is 00:09:04 If you owned it, if you co-owned it. Yeah, but that's normally two people, Haley. No, I've got, I've had friends who have bought houses together as friends. As friends, yeah. And I've had multiple people on the mortgage. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But is it different?
Starting point is 00:09:20 It's different. That's different. You would have an agreement. Like, your lawyers wouldn't, like, you wouldn't... Yes, yeah, they had lawyers involved in the signing of that. 100%. Your bank wouldn't let you do it without some watertight. What would you do if they'd break up if they decide to sell situations? It was two women and a man that lived together in a polyamorous relationship. And they lived together for about 15 years in the property. Cheapest.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And QMew, after the relationship ended, they turned to the family court to determine how the property should be divided. So, okay. Okay. Do you know This is interesting because we're in a day and age where this will probably become far more common Like we're as a society We are more open-minded
Starting point is 00:10:02 Two different relationship structures Than just two people Yeah just that the law hasn't caught up with The law hasn't caught up The modern times Because if it was just two of them Then the basic version of it would be a 50-50 split So this is just a 33.33%.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Or more but sometimes people people want more. Yeah, no, I know. Because of the family court initially said it didn't have jurisdiction as the high court. But the court of appeal overturned that ruling, finding the family court could determine claims regarding polyamorous relationship in the same way it determined claims for those that were married or de facto or whatever. How do the Mormons do it?
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yeah, I think maybe it's time to reach out to the Mormons. Might have to reach out to the Mormons. I've got that massive church in South Auckland. Yeah, chuck a little... God, that's giant. enormous in Hattie. Is that the one by Rambo's End? Yes, dude. If you have not... To be honest, it looks like it's part of Rambo's End.
Starting point is 00:10:57 It looks like a car. It's so garish. Like that's where you go in for the haunted house. Yeah, yeah. And you go under the ground and end up by the log floam over the road. If you have not been to Auckland recently, when you're coming in from the airport into town on the right is this huge... I wouldn't take that way if we're just talking about waste to get from the airport to town. No, you don't take that way.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I'm going to south-western. Oh yeah, I would have turned off by then. Yeah, I would have gone. But if you're coming in from Hamilton and you're hitting up Sylvia Park for a little bit of Christmas shopping, first of all, you're crazy. Second of all, it's on there on the right when you see the roller coaster and stuff on the left. Hucker right, you won't miss it. It's bright white, up high, garish old thing.
Starting point is 00:11:39 God, they got a lot of money kicking around for Jesus. A lot of money in Jesus. There's a lot of money in Jesus. Almost thinking about starting a church. Well, immediately, there goes your tax. Yeah. We could make this show sort of a church organisation. We preach.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Thinking about also selling some breakfast cereals and not paying tax on the profits. Well, that works because it's technically owned by the church. Yeah, exactly. If we, the new church, we'll find a cool name. Yeah, the new church sounds really good to do. The new church. It's kind of like people like it because it's new.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah, yeah. So if we're the new church also decide to do some sort of grain-based cereal, we don't pay tax on the sales of that? We say it's the church. Because the church is making it. But we're the church, so we get it. Oh, mate, this is sick. I get why they do it.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Yeah, they're totally, man. The ZRAM podcast network. From the Fletchborn and Haley group chat, this is the top six. Well, I mean, food, that's an expensive thing. But we need it, don't we? Yeah, well, milk. Don't go along without it. Milk and cheese prices soar as power prices continue climb.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Power prices? Is that the problem? Well, you've got to have the power to milk the cow. First of all, to get the milk out of the cows. I just use my guns. You use your arms. Use my arms. I just pull on them.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Milk, milk, milk, milk. That's free. That's free power. That's free milk. And then, you know, you've got to transport it. The factory, the whole process, the homogenization, the pasteurization. Everything requires power, doesn't it? In the last 12 months, milk has gone up 13.5%.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Cheese has gone up 30.1%. That's... Stop. For your average of a block, a KG block. Fresh eggs have gone up 18. And St. Coffey up 25.5%. Is it? Boo!
Starting point is 00:13:25 Yesterday, I think you might find Fletch. I made espresso martini for everyone. Yes. And I would like to say, I hit jar in your Macona. Yeah, I hit jar. I used a lot of it. And I made way too much. I know.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And it was a waste. It's wasteful. Also, the caramel. We must discuss. Could you please move back to a stand at Macona or have the option? The caramel is the best. It's a hint of caramel. It's a hint of caramel.
Starting point is 00:13:52 It's a hint of caramel. It's in your 40s. Yeah, absolutely. Right. I'll stand by it. It's a bit of a baby coffee, isn't it? It's like an intro. And it's, it's, mm.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And half men. Yeah, I know. But the caramel. No, I'll stand by it every time. Well, I'm trying to save money. I'm an impersonal recession. And to be honest. It's dragon.
Starting point is 00:14:12 It's dragon. But I won't print more money. No, but I'm not going to print my way out of this recession. because that'll just lead to hyperinflation, so I'm told. Well, with the upcoming festive season. Yeah, I've got some recipes that you can make that have always heavily relied on milk, butter and cheese without the milk butter and cheese that still work.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Number six on the list, if you've always loved mac and cheese, you are not going to love as much, Mac. Just macaroni. It's just mac. What is it? Still cooked? Yeah, it's boiled. It's boiled.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Okay. But then when you finish, you just kind of drain the water off let it cool and then eat the stodgy mac. So it's just Mac. Maybe put some bacon in. Can I get a price check on bacon? Man, bacon's expensive. Yeah, that's gone up too.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Cancel the bacon. Maybe some shaved hand? Tomatoes, yeah, shaved hand. It's not the same though, is it? Not the same. Very thin. Just get ready for Mac this festival season. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Save your money. Number five on the list of the top six recipes that have always heavily relied on dairy that actually don't need them. If you've always loved butter chicken, love butter chicken. You are going to love chicken. What's on the chicken?
Starting point is 00:15:20 We just boil the chicken. With the spices? It gets a bit much with that, the butter. Christchuk on Garam masala. There is some cream and butter chicken, eh? Yeah, yeah. There's some cream. Yeah, a lot of cream.
Starting point is 00:15:34 So we're not having any of that? No, she's just going to boil chicken. Chicken and tomatoes. Boiled chicken breast. And to be honest, we're probably just going to get a bachelor's handbag because I don't know how a fully cooked chicken is cheaper than a chicken. I know, right. That's wild.
Starting point is 00:15:46 They cooked it for you. cheaper than a standard, you know, roast chook that hasn't been cooked. I know, it's long. And it's got stuffing. Yeah. That's why. Hello. Hello. No, not cous-cose. Couscouce. We'll have a cuss-cuffing. Traditional. A, we'll have a cuss-kis. Oh, no, you
Starting point is 00:16:01 do. By the way, I need to re-get your mother's stuffing recipe for Christmas. It's not my mother's, it's ties, my friend Ty. Oh, ties. The sausage, the sausage cranberries. Then you make it in a tray. Because I made it to Christmas as a guy. And then last year did it. And there was an uproids. And there was an up
Starting point is 00:16:17 at the Smith family Christmas. Really? Where's that a tray of stuffing, they said? Straight away. Number four on the list of the top six are recipes that don't actually need milk butter or cheese if you try hard enough. If you guys love grilled cheese sandwiches.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah, I had one used to do. You're going to love grilled sandwiches. Grilled sandwiches. Okay. Grilled sandwiches. The bad news is butter's expensive, so we can't put butter on the outside. Oh, no. We're in spritzing sunflower oil.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Oh. Oh. Oh, no. Yuck. Have you ever put Dijonais on the outside of a toasted sandwich? No. Mayonase. Yeah, so it's like that
Starting point is 00:16:49 except it's got the Dijon mustard and the mayonnaise and it caramelizes up. Say no more. Oh, say no more. It slaps, man. It slaps. In my mouth.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Immediately. Immediately. Especially good on it if you're making sort of a Rubin adjacent sandwich. Yum. Okay. I have actually even turned myself on there
Starting point is 00:17:05 here in my low voice on. Carry on. Carry on. Number three on the list of the top six recipes that don't actually need milk butter and cheese.
Starting point is 00:17:14 If you love the classic chocolate bar, the milky bar, Yep You're going to love bar Just bar Oh, what is it Just sugar and unpack it
Starting point is 00:17:22 Yeah, pretty much It's a sack of sugar A sack of sugar Nothing else Okay right Yeah sorry But that's just I love milky bar
Starting point is 00:17:30 Yeah I know We need to get a new kid The bars are on me Yeah And we'll just call them the bar kid Yeah Number two in the list Of the top six
Starting point is 00:17:40 Recipes that don't actually need Milk Butter and Cheese If you're trying to do it on a budget You guys I don't know about you I love cheesecake Yeah, and I'd like to introduce you to cake. That's not as good.
Starting point is 00:17:51 What's in the cake, though? Because you need butter. No, sometimes you can replace it with sunflower oil. It's bad. To be fair, I made a chocolate cake with my daughter and used olive oil. In charge of... Price check on olive oil. Yeah, I'm going to price check on extra virgin olive.
Starting point is 00:18:06 You try to do it cheaper and use the olive oil. We didn't try to do it cheaper, we just wanted the moistest cake. Oh, yeah. Oil cakes is good. For the recipe for the moistest chocolate cake you can possibly make. Wow. And this is what it offered me up. So you could use an olive oil
Starting point is 00:18:18 But as you say, price and a much difference And number one on the list of the top six recipes That don't actually need milk butter and cheese If you try hard enough You guys like it a little bit of, it's simple But it's a classic of bread and butter pudding Oh, I love bread and butter pudding I had one last week
Starting point is 00:18:31 Well, you are going to love bread For pudding Patsy is carving you up, eh? I've told her off She has been properly told off Is that why last night was a salad? I said I cannot keep doing this It was a salad followed by icing sugar doused
Starting point is 00:18:46 icing sugar and quantro doused strawberries and vanilla ice cream from the freezer. Stop! I was just saying last weekend there's nothing better than just when strawberries are in season, a little icing sugar and some vanilla ice cream. But quondro on the top. A shot of quantro in the bowl and it makes the icing sugar into like a coating. Oh my God, I could get it outranging. It's a vanilla ice cream.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I really like the sound of that. Well, no, don't start it. I can't help myself. I know. I can count myself. Oh, I know. Prepare for an absolute blowout. That is today's up sick.
Starting point is 00:19:24 The ZM Podcast Network. Play ZN's Fleshhorn and Haley. Companies across New Zealand increasingly using AI to write their performance reviews. A lot of companies actually giving it the A-O-K saying like, you know, it's not just managers doing this secretly. Up high, they're saying, yeah, that's fine, you can use it to sort of. of draft things and da-da-da-da-da-da, but you can't use it to assign scores, determine pay or make promotion decisions. Should Fletch get a promotion?
Starting point is 00:19:55 A-I. Over to you. Yeah, over to you. They're saying potential benefits, saving people time, reducing a traditionally dreaded task of the end-of-year performance review, how it produce more comprehensive, consistent feedback, but I'm not really into it. I'm just saying, feel free to give me a human response. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah. I've actually done Ross Boss a solid. and I've done the performance reviews for Fletch and Vaughn for the end of the year we're at November How many companies that like big proper companies Are getting JP Morgan
Starting point is 00:20:26 Okay yeah that's a big company To do It's a time saver As I say it's not determining your It's not determining your pay or anything It's just kind of like Summising it and then you draw it from Like AI
Starting point is 00:20:38 Does it know how you're doing They're calling it AI work slop Okay Shallow generic inactual you're at. It is shallow. I'll show you in a second. Employees then distrust the feedback if we know because we're like, you're not even reflecting me. You're just actually, you know, the computer's done it. But I guess if you're like work output is, if you're able to analyze that, like if you work in like banking or whatever or sales or whatever. Or radio, shall we see. Performance review,
Starting point is 00:21:08 Carl Fletcher 2025. I put in two sentences of information. Did you? Carl continues to be a highly and technically skilled anchor for the ZDM Breakfast Show. His ability to push buttons and keep the program running smoothly ensures the team stays on track and the show maintains its fast, energetic pace it's known for, providing strong support to his co-host, Haley Sprell and Vaughn-Smith, helping create a collaborative and positive on-air dynamic.
Starting point is 00:21:30 However... Oh, no, no. I was going to say this has got paralys written all. Oh, what am I done? While his professionalism is evident, there is occasional room for improvement, particularly when it comes to keeping his musely eating zone tidy and at time stepping up
Starting point is 00:21:47 his on-air wardrobe choices. Overall, Carl is an essential part of the show's success, but consistency, humour and genuine care to the studio each day. I only got four t-shirts. Yeah, no, no. Why would anyone need any more t-shirts? Why would anyone need more t-shirts? I would need more t-shirts. Should I do one for every work? Should I do? I'll get you another t-shirt. Performance review, Vorn Smith,
Starting point is 00:22:05 2025. Here we go. Late this morning slept in. Did you put that down? I didn't. Forgot to set his alarm. Can you ask? No, I set my alarm and when I went off, I went to press snoo. but my alarm, I'm by the way, I just say tread lightly. I'm fragile. Tread lightly on your performance review.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Or you're going to have this to live with. Smith, 2025. Vaughn continues to be a standout presence of the Zetema airwaves, reliably bringing joy, laughter and a much-needed lift to listeners even on his toughest days. His quick-wit and steady supply of bizarre, yet fascinating facts remain a core strength of the show. In the studio, his enthusiasm is infectious,
Starting point is 00:22:42 though sometimes accompanied by a less-than-ideal side effect. such as bananas so overright they qualify as biological weapons and a rotation of T-shirts that challenge both colour theory and common sense. I mentioned one poor T-shirt. What? Color theory and common sense.
Starting point is 00:22:57 This morning's accidental sleep-in was a slight hiccup, but one delivered with his signature charm and promptly forgiven by all. Quirks aside, Vaughn remains a funny, engaging and highly valued member of the team as humor and authenticity are key elements of the show's success
Starting point is 00:23:10 and the atmosphere simply would not be the same without it. Oh, wow, that's okay. I'm sticking around I'll hang around You would accept those as I'm able to knock off early I'm taking the rest of the day but I will see it tomorrow
Starting point is 00:23:22 Can you add that today he'll be knocking off early Yeah But he'll be back tomorrow And Carl and Haley disapprove Just see how they'll add that in Updated version
Starting point is 00:23:34 Dada da da Infection considered This morning's accidental sleepin Added to the chaos And today he'll be knocking off early much to the visible disapproval of Carl and Haley who are already drafting their strongly worded eye rolls. See, now it's gone jovial.
Starting point is 00:23:52 It's taken the piss. You can ask it for a harder one. It'll do whatever you take. Currently, I'm working at a five-night meal plan. I've told them what options I've got. You're so close to marrying your AI. It's actually scary. It's definitely made me more, like, productive
Starting point is 00:24:09 and better with money and, like, heaps of things. Yeah. And cocktails. You're really good at cocktails now. Cocktails, recipes, you name it. This is the future. Yeah, the other night, I was telling you guys yesterday, I took a photo of my spice drawer
Starting point is 00:24:22 and said, I've got chicken drumsticks, I want to make a really delicious sort of like all-round pleasing rub to put on them before I cook them. All-round pleasing rub. I can give you a few hot tips. It scanned everything in there, and it was like, and honest to God, it was top tier.
Starting point is 00:24:40 It was delicious. It did have a sprinkle of MSG. Play that ends Fleshhorn and Haley We're getting our words of the year We're getting our toys of the year We're getting now everything of the year What was the one we did last time? God
Starting point is 00:24:55 It was the word of the year for Dictionary.com And it was 6.7 6.7 Yeah I regret that. Speaking of just 2 minutes to 7 doesn't worry
Starting point is 00:25:05 It doesn't work It doesn't work. 2 minutes to 7 2 7 Paras Social is the Cambridge Dictionary of the word this year.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Parassocial relationship. Parascial relationship defined as a relationship felt by someone between themselves and a famous person they do not know. Okay. Taylor Swift's a great example. People thinking they've got a sort of an in and should be entitled to know everything about a relationship
Starting point is 00:25:30 and all that bad jazz. The term dates back to 1956 when American sociologists observed TV viewers engaging in parasocial relationships with on-screen personalities. And of course the TV shows now are so much more are involved in the personal side of people's life, so they feel like
Starting point is 00:25:47 they're living with the Kardashians. Yeah, they have more access to celebrities, don't they? They follow them on social. Yeah. The celebrities are always posting. Yeah. Only fans? Yep. If you pay enough money, you get your personalised stuff. Is it parisocial when like these people get arrested for stalking their
Starting point is 00:26:03 house? They turn up. That's just that psychotic. That's psychosocial. Yeah. One of the main characteristics, right, is that it's one-sided. So like, it's you never the celebrity or whoever is not even aware that you exist but you're in this deep
Starting point is 00:26:21 deep relationship with them and you're willing to pay thousands of dollars to see them in concert yeah so Oxford Dictionary still waiting on their word of the year okay that's my dictionary of choice the Macquarie the Australian one because you know they're my favourite
Starting point is 00:26:36 It's released it Who? It's fresh Wait Macquarie No it's revealed it's word the year finalists. A.I. Slop. Australian sushi. Who? Who's done this? Wait. What's Australian sushi?
Starting point is 00:26:52 I don't know. Australian sushi is a thick hand roll made from half a standard sheet of norie. So it's like a whole roll of sushi in half. I don't like it. It squeezes out. Yeah, I don't like the, all their sushi shops have those. You don't like it. Through it. Too much on the
Starting point is 00:27:07 norie. Bird dogging. Eight. No crumbs left. Attention economy. bathroom camping Ozempic face Osempic face okay Well I'm excited for them
Starting point is 00:27:19 To release their word of the year I want to know what bird dogging is That sounds like something That you'd look up on urban dictionary To be honest Bird dogging meaning Political activism Where activists repeatedly question officials
Starting point is 00:27:30 To force them on to record Oh okay Like pushing them It's not as sexy as I thought Birddoging sounded No it's not No The ZN Podcast Network
Starting point is 00:27:42 Is this show real? Play Z-N's, Flesh, One and Hayley. I don't know, I'm just going to find the tag. There's not an ad, is there? I actually pre-pre-prepared, skip the ads. There were two out and unskippable ads. So I had to watch through. I had to sit them out.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I'm just going to make sure I'm all. One's in a personal recession, loading up YouTube not premium. I'm ready to go. Okay, fantastic. If you see a faded sign at the side of the road that says 15 miles to a Shannon's Shannon's hack, baby. Well, we go to the... Should put him some time in the booth?
Starting point is 00:28:19 Do you reckon to get that? Why? Why? One day... Just so a sort of a pause before we... That's good, I like it. One day we'll record it. Shannon joins us.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Good morning. With, I believe, a travel hack. Yeah, if there's one thing I know about Fletch, it's that he loves travelling and he loves to save money. I guess that's two things. Sure, I love that. Yeah, I was being mocked yesterday while you guys are at my house because I had already started chucking stuff on the spare bed
Starting point is 00:28:43 of stuff I'm going to take on holiday. He's starting to pack. Yeah, he's a month out. Or a month out. If I need something, I just chuck it and then I'm like, I'll need that. Otherwise, I'll be somewhere and be like, I've forgotten that thing again. That's crazy, man. Wild man.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Well, I've got a hack for you for when you're travelling and you don't want to spend extra money on baggage. I don't want to spend extra money anywhere. Exactly, Haley. Now, Fletch, you and I actually share the same chest size. Measurements-wise, Flech and I have the same diameter. We've got a whopping set of knockers. Yeah, yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:29:14 We both have the exact same chest size. How did we find this up? Because you've mentioned that you've got the same size as Shannon, the Trades will be following you too. So many truck drivers follow me when I talk about my giant knockers. Exactly. No, we were measuring you for a photo shoot. And I went, that's my size, and then we matched.
Starting point is 00:29:28 And to the centimetre meter, we matched. Yeah, we're exactly the same chest size. Wow. I mean, I'll just say, it is distributed slightly differently. A little bit. She's narrower, but has the honkers, you're broader, but I'll say itty-bitty-committee. Well, we've got a hack, and I can help you with this Fletch.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Okay. So instead of paying for extra baggage, what I want you to do is grab a bra that would have a larger cup than you do. So Fletch, I can give you one of my bras. Okay. And then I want you to shove in some extra. We could put a tea in there.
Starting point is 00:29:58 We could put some singlets. Sox. Yeah. You just shove them in there, and then a nice baggy tea on top for the flight. Boom, we've got some extra baggage, baby. I've got quite big boobs. As of late.
Starting point is 00:30:11 So I've got to get like a G cup. You can do that. And then fill that with stuff. And they're going to be noticeably large. You're going to have such sweaty nungas. I don't want to start picking holes in this already, but you're filling the boob, the bra, with light items anyway that don't weigh anything.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Just space, though. And don't take up that much space. Now, if you could work how to get a pair of boots. A pair of jeans in there. Yeah, yeah. A pair of boots in that, bro. I think you could like strap the jeans around. You could go full diameter.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I know, but you're just, now you're just wrapping. clothes on you. This is the exact same thing as just wearing everything that you've brought. I don't want to accuse Shannon of plagiarism, but I did come to the show many years ago with the fishing best hack for travel. Yeah, you do, actually. And that is far more
Starting point is 00:30:54 roomier and comfortable. I knew when Shannon said it's a travel hack, I was like, this is going to be hard to impress fletch. Because he's probably, this is his algorithm. This is our algorithm. And also, I can't turn up at a foreign airport with boobs. You can't.
Starting point is 00:31:10 You'll get looked at and searched. No, if you have a baggy enough t-shirt, you might just look like a bigger person. Also, I think that we're in a modern day and age. And there's no. You'd think that. Just huck a wig on. Just huck a wig on.
Starting point is 00:31:23 And it means you're going to a progressive welcoming country, like your friend, France, your Germany, or are you going to? Like one of those, you know, quite bad nations where they're regressing through time like Saudi Arabia or the United States of America. Yeah. Where are you heading? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:37 What are you supposed to be? Look, I'll give it a... No. Give it a one A two What about two? One each cup No
Starting point is 00:31:44 No It's a one Because you're right You do this way better By either just wearing all your jackets Or by the fishing vest hack That we had years ago Or just doing what Vaughan does
Starting point is 00:31:57 And taking three checked bags on And then just ramming them in somewhere Yeah It's a white privilege Yeah Yeah Okay you have one star from me Haley
Starting point is 00:32:06 Someone message in it Can we at least make an effort Shannon um this is an effort uh what how are we going when we go through security they're going to love this yeah yeah yeah yeah i know but there's nothing illegal about it yeah there's not also security doesn't care about this stuff the airline cares security will be like good on you take pillow take a pillow on the plane but instead put clothes in it yeah so many more hacks it's a great I just stop the music I'm going back to the part where we play the the one star review it's one star for you yeah okay there we go then
Starting point is 00:32:40 You see a faded sign at the side of the road that says one star today for Shannon's hat. One star baby. Yeah, not your best work, not your best work, but at least it's one. Hey, at least it's not taping pads to your feet so that you don't get athletes' foot in the gym showers. You know, lest we forget. The ZM Podcast Network. Play ZM's Flashforn and Haley. That's fun and Haley, silly little pole, silly little pole, it is so silly, silly, silly, silly that a silly little pole, silly little pole, silly little pole.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Today's silly little poll, it's all thanks to Mick Caffe, keep your morning rolling with great coffee. And the question is, in theory, hypothetically speaking, would you date a hypnotist? Or is that a deal-breaker? It's come out that Jennifer Anderson's, Jennifer Aniston's. Aniston's. No, it's pronounced Aniseed. Jennifer Aniseed, Will. Her new boyfriend is a hypnotist.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Yeah. His name is Jim Curtis. He's a wellness coach and hypnotist. So he's less click your fingers, now you're a chicken. He's more like every time you see a muffin. Imagine it's like a bucket of spew. Yeah, so that you don't do. that or like overcoming
Starting point is 00:34:11 fears and phobias and that kind of stuff. That'd make walking half muffin break a bit traumatic and more lay just a glass case of small spew buckets. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then she hard launched him on her socials. She did a soft launch and then she did a rock
Starting point is 00:34:27 hard one. And now, yeah, it's official. She is dating this hypnotist. Jim. Could you trust a hypnotist? No, he's going to mentalise. This is what we say to Shannon all the time. Are we sure that you're wizard? husband. He's a magician. Does he do
Starting point is 00:34:41 hypnosis as well? He does mentalism. Mentalism. What's that? Where they kind of read and plant ideas. I have a couple of spells of mentalism a week. Have a cry and a drink and get that out of the way. Yeah, that's a mental breakdown. They're different. Yeah. I thought it was a scientific name for a mental breakdown. No, no, no, no, no, no, different. Yeah, when he's on a cruise, he does one magic show, one mentalism show generally. So he's a bit of both. Okay. And what does it involve, like, kind of mind reading and
Starting point is 00:35:05 planting ideas and knowing what people are going to say? Okay, we're in a safe space but have you ever asked your boyfriend to do the dishes and all of a sudden, you're doing the dishes? How did I get here? No, but they say it's real interesting with mentalism and hypnosis and stuff. The more you know someone, the easier it is to be conditioned.
Starting point is 00:35:23 So like, because I hear his voice every day and because I trust him, if he was to try hypnotize me, I'd go like instantly. Oh, my God. And it's like a whole thing. And so like real hypnotists, they have to meet you a lot and talk to you a lot before you can actually do the whole
Starting point is 00:35:38 We're susceptible into their wizardry. On the radio shows over the years and yeah it is that he I remember one of them telling us it's very hard for radio people to be hypnotised because they're on and they're on the radio
Starting point is 00:35:50 they're not comfortable and you don't know. We're performing at the moment. You have to know the voice and trust it so I would be really susceptible to being hypnotised by my partner but probably no one else. Is this something we need to look into? I can't like it.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Is it like it? Is it like it? Of course you're going to like it. Of course you're going to like it. You're hypnotised or like it. Yeah, baby. This was like a kink. Okay, wow.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Yeah. I kind of like just not knowing. Yeah. Okay, anyway. If my thoughts are my own. I've been implanted inside me. So what were the poll results? Well, we asked in theory, would you date about hypnotists?
Starting point is 00:36:21 71% of people said no. 29% said yes. That's a giant red flag, isn't it? A little bit. Tegan said no, purely because I don't believe in it, so it wouldn't be fair on them. See, I never did. But then when we had people hypnotised, on the radio show and you see it, you're like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:36:37 It's not believe in it like it's real or fake. It's just a manipulation of people. Some people are more susceptible to it than others. And it's 100% a thing. Yeah, yeah, it is a thing. People aren't getting it. Like, they do live shows, people get up on stage. They're not acting.
Starting point is 00:36:51 I've been hypnotized once. It didn't really work because I still can't say the word MOTH. But I got hypnotism for phobia. Oh, fear phobia. Oh. And it didn't work. Yeah. Angela's message is in.
Starting point is 00:37:04 What does Angela have to say? My first boyfriend was studying to be a hypnotist and he cheated on me with my best friend. Now, I don't know if that's a... But wait, if that's a photo of it. Did I cheat on you? Remember I didn't, Angela? Buk, bach, bop, bop.
Starting point is 00:37:18 So I learned my listen. Do you know what? She's been through some hardships. She can win the coffee voucher. I love that. A $50 voucher is yours, Angela. Well done. We'll get that out to you. Another Angela says, you just can't trust them, though, can you?
Starting point is 00:37:30 Chris said, not interested in. videos of me clucking on stage plus get a real job who's heard of a legitimate hypnosis? I thought it was recognised as a way to quit smoking and eating and controlling urges and and also unlocking like trauma
Starting point is 00:37:46 and everything there's lots of people that use it to open your mind to memories that you might have forgotten Kathy said I have trust issues as it is your Kathy Bates said they have trust issues as it is Abby I do I really like them or have they made me like them I'd be second guessing
Starting point is 00:38:02 myself the whole time. Yeah. That's not going to work for you then. Penny, I'm married to someone who used to be a hypnotist full-time. He's since become a cyber security engineer. He reckons he hypnotized me to quit smoking. I've been smoke-free for 10 years. So it seems to have worked.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Yeah, but is she like Haley and loves a party dart? Yeah. No party darts. I haven't had a report of a party dart. Okay. She said smoke free. Right. Not smoke part-time.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Okay. Dana said, absolutely. What a hoot. I'd actually go out of my way to date of hypnotist. That sounds like fun. I don't know what Don't his fiance thinks of that. Shannon's loving that one. Shannon's loving it.
Starting point is 00:38:35 We've got another hypnotism kink. There's something so beautiful about being a wag to a magician or a hypnotist. It's just so fun. I get to have so many fun things in my apartment. Except for your boyfriend. Because he's always traveling. Yeah, he's hardly there. But no, it is really fun.
Starting point is 00:38:54 And there is a real community of the wags. Like, we all talk to each other. I like how the wives of sports people are like, please don't call me a wag. to grading and I'm more than just the partner of a sports person. Shanna's like, yeah, I'm a wag. Wag me up to a magician. Your best friends with that girl that gets cut on half, eh? I'm friends with the girls who get
Starting point is 00:39:12 cut in half, yeah. No, you, but not the face, just the league girl. They're the same girl. Same girl, yeah. You wouldn't know anyway, so it doesn't really matter if you would or wouldn't date. Yeah, great point, you wouldn't know. Sort of a blissful ignorance.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Yeah. Casey said, my life's already a dumps the fire, so I know what I'll put an extra twist to it. Wow, Casey. Aisha, it wouldn't put me off as long as he didn't make it his whole personality. I would be keen for some free hypnotherapy to get rid of my fear of spiders.
Starting point is 00:39:44 He could take care of that. And while you're under, make you into some other stuff too. Yeah. Sure. Like, see his, and be like, whoa! Yeah, that's perfect. That's perfect.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Some would say it's too small. I think it's the perfect size. Yeah, yeah. What are these other people on about saying that's teeny tiny? That's the biggest thing I've ever. ever seen. Data said, yes, please, and hypnotise me to stop wanting a little midnight snack snacks and make me want to go to the gym, please. So there, everyone's using an antitist boyfriend to their advantage. So for silly little poll today, we said,
Starting point is 00:40:13 would you date a hypnotist? And 71% of you said, no, I would not. The ZDN podcast network. What's going on? ZD.M's Fletch, Vaughn and Haley. Wicked for Good, the part two of, uh, Wicked. Are you going to play Defiant Gravity? I'll cry. Wicked. Wicked. So if you care to find me, look to the western skies, is someone told me lately. Anyway, it's out to... I haven't seen either of them.
Starting point is 00:40:45 When this song came out and she flew away, full-body chills and I... Spoiler alert! She's a witch, dude. But one of them's green, right? Yes. Oh, shameful. I just unrecogn the mics down, boys.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Do you guys want to pop off? Make a coffee. That's alfalfa. She's green because she's named after alfalfa sprups. It's alpha. Alpha. Alfa. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:06 And Ariana Grande plays. The girls are getting mad at us. I cannot wait for you guys to go away. So part two is out tomorrow officially for general... Consumption. Laymen's, you know, for civis like yourselves. But the Gurley's, produced Girlies, Kowin and Shannon, were privy to the premiere on Monday night. It must be nice.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Yeah. I saw you've got photos. All dressed up in your pinks and greens. Yeah, it was Osmopolitan themed. Oh, that's good. Is that a Zempic. It's a Zempic cocktails. Is that Ozzympic coctails?
Starting point is 00:41:42 All the New Zealand influences were there and we were all in our best Ozempic chic. Yeah, Ozimpsychic and your pink and greens. And very anticipated this film because the first one was such a success. Yes, we were so excited. It's a lot shorter than part one. I'll let everyone know. Because how long was the first one.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Three hours. This one is two hours 19, so quite a bit shorter. Okay. Which reflects this of, obviously, the theatre show because a second half is always a little bit shorter. I hear that, of course, that's the key to a good theatre show. If you make the second half longer, we're a bit pissed off at that point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I hear there's a bit of uproar because Wicked for Good leaves out a song that was very famous in the musical. And they've added original songs that give you a little. a bit of content up up I'll pause again when the big note comes Fly!
Starting point is 00:42:40 Anyway, so Making Good is cut which was a song from the original Broadway musical and then they've put in new songs that give a bit of context about their life. Yeah, so Glinda has her own song. Chish, up. Chills,
Starting point is 00:42:57 instantly, two notes, carry on. So Glinda. has her own song about, you know, what she's feeling. But obviously, in the original theatre show, we don't see a lot of Glinda in the second act. She's definitely more prominent. And I don't know... Is that Arana Grande's character?
Starting point is 00:43:13 Yes. I don't know if that is big cold. Glenda, you're saying Glenda, or the Kiwi accent. Glinda. Glinda. Glinda. Sorry, I'm just going to pause you. Up, up, up.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Thank you. Carry on. Right, wow. She does have one. Oh, my God, literally goose bumps up my legs. Yeah, my nipples are erect. Sorry, we'll just hit to hit the final big note and then we can carry on.
Starting point is 00:43:36 This one. There you go. Oh my God. That's magical. How does it not move you? I will say some of the vocals in part two, I found stronger than part one. What?
Starting point is 00:43:54 Which is like crazy because part one was incredible, but during some of those big belting, moments. I genuinely had goosebumps. I feel like I can cry. Yeah. You will. You will. I can guarantee it. I'm a big musical theatre girl. I just moves you. Look at my goosey skin. Like it's just beautiful. But is that your staff infection?
Starting point is 00:44:13 No, that's face only. Okay, right. That's face only. It is also a very beautiful message of like two people who are not people that would like associate usually, I guess, coming together, finding common ground and just becoming friends. But then the wizard it was, doesn't the house fall on one of them? It's a different story. Listen, okay, this is what I had to explain to my partner. They run concurrently, technically.
Starting point is 00:44:36 What does that mean? Side-by-side storylines, but they're not intertwining. Wait, so the green witch in the Wizard of Oz isn't the green witch that's singing the song. You see Dorothy, but she's not a plot line. Yeah, yeah. Wait, what are you talking about? Because Dorothy's from the human world. But Dorothy's in the second movie.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Yeah, but she's not like a plot line, but she's there. You see her visually, but you don't see. You don't see who she is. She doesn't speak. It's not, you're not watching now. I need a timeline. Wait, is there a road and is it yellow? Yeah, there's a yellow.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Is it a tin man in this one? Yes. Get out of town! Yeah. He's back in. Wait a minute. So wait. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Can you just go watch this and report back to us when you answer all these questions? I don't know my cup of tea. I don't have 12 hours spare. It's two hours. It's two hours, 19. Isn't that seven hours long? Well, you can watch that. That's on all your platforms now.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Yeah, yeah. So you can watch that at home. It's on Netflix. It's on Netflix. It's on Netflix, yeah I don't have Netflix at the moment I'm in a personal movie You should bring my login for God's saying
Starting point is 00:45:35 Honestly, it's like you're committed to watching this But not committed to it? Is it on the Plex? We're not, no, no, we're not talking about Plex We don't promote the Plex I'm saying this Um, okay But what do you give it out of five? Five, obviously
Starting point is 00:45:48 Oh yeah Oh really? Wow, gosh It was incredible I think we've done a really great job Pause up, up, up So if you care to find me in a lot to the western sky, has someone told me later? Well, it's already got on IMDB 7.9 out of 10. That's pretty good for IMDB.
Starting point is 00:46:08 So it's pretty good for IMDB. What does Rotamots think? Rotamots. Rotamots. Rotamots. Let's hit Rotamots for a rating. I love a Rotamots rating. And then you've got to tell me the Metacritic score versus the audience because sometimes the critics get a bit.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Yeah, they do. They just can't enjoy something. Up up up. It's quite a lot, isn't it? Somebody said, I watched the Wicked Premier last night. It was a few shocks short of torture. What does that mean? It means that they've got a bad attitude.
Starting point is 00:46:37 And no good taste. And that they're not divided to the Premier. Okay. So, oh, right, so they got shocks. 72% on Rotterms. Yeah, what is, Roddy Tom's? Roddy Tom's? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Sorry, one more, just one more. It's just the big note. No, we're done. Clay ZM's Fletch Fawn and Haley I was reading a great article about a woman who's turning 30 before Christmas and has struggled with the concept since
Starting point is 00:47:05 she was 24 and every single year on her birthday she cries about time passing her by and approaching this milestone age. Yeah, I know people that have real problem with every year turning older. I think it's an ironer of privilege. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:47:22 It is a privilege. I have never struggled with it maybe. until recently. Why? Because I've always felt young. But you still feel young. Yeah, I know. I know. It's silly.
Starting point is 00:47:36 But every single year, she said she brought in her 24th birthday in tears and it's almost become like a habitual thing that every birthday she cries. And the article was more about what she's doing to stop that in her 30s, which is like a 30 by 30 list she's trying to do before her 30th birthday. 30 things she wants to achieve. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:54 But I thought a better question to ask our listeners is why did you cry on your birthday? What went wrong? Maybe we could get a little, it's my party and I'll cry if I want to. Oh, great song. Because sometimes maybe there's too much pressure around the day and you had a bit of a dream about how your party was going to go. Or a lot of people have expectations in life. Like I will be engaged by 25 and married by 30 or I have a kid by 30 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Yeah, or maybe someone dumped you on your birthday. They chose that day. Oh, yeah. Or maybe. the day. You didn't get the present that you wanted and so you cried.
Starting point is 00:48:30 There you go. Oh, we've got messages, we've got so many messages already. Why are people crying on their happy day? I'm crying on my birthday because my son gave me gastro and I shit my pants a little bit. It's my birthday.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Okay, this is the thing, and your birthday's supposed to be a day of celebration. Attention. Everyone is giving you attention. and gifts and la la la la la la. Maybe you didn't get the attention. Maybe you didn't get the attention on the gift that you wanted.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Yeah, that's right. Or something major happened. Or maybe just like your boyfriend or husband forgot. Yeah. Imagine that, I mean, that happens. And you're just rattling around the house like, hello. I cried on my dad's 30th birthday because I had an old dad. I was 12.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Oh, me the mats on that. Your dad was 18 years old when you were born. That is a young dad. That's a young dad. That is a young dad. Okay, 0800, Dahl Zem is the number. Texts already coming in. Text us, 9-696.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Why did you cry on your birthday? Why you cried on your birthday? Yeah, I read a great article from a girl who has cried every birthday from 24 to 29, determined not to do it on her 30th. Rosie, why did you cry on your birthday? I got, hey guys, how are you? Really? Hey, Rosie, good, how are you?
Starting point is 00:49:52 Currently not crying. Rosie, so we're good. That's good. It's good stuff. No, so my birthday is actually 9-11, so I currently still get asked if I'm on on my birthday, but no. What year were you born? How old were you when 9-11 happened?
Starting point is 00:50:08 I was born in 93. Right. Oh, 7, 8, 7-ish? Yeah. Wow, okay, yeah, yeah. Probably remember that. So I cried on my birthday because I opened this presents from, um, I was, um, I'm from a family member
Starting point is 00:50:25 and found that there was a makeup bag in there and I thought, oh yeah, that's cool and then I opened the makeup bag and there was a earring inside it so it was like a second-hand gift. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Why didn't it make you cry though rather than like, oh, I can cheapskate or something like that? Why the tears? Because it was a close family member. Okay, okay. It's giving, it's giving, it's giving really close family member vibes, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:50:55 It's giving like parental sort of energy. Rosie, thank you. Good luck for the next birthday. I hope it's a lot happier. Yeah. Somebody else's message, and I cried on my birthday when I found out my partner was boinking, my bestie. That's a boinking. That's not a boonking, that's a boonking. Oh, a boingking.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Are they boingking? They're boing king. That's fair enough. My sister cried on her 21st birthday when she woke up, she was met with a video of her favorite person, Maddie McClein, saying, birthday to her first thing in the morning, she bursts into tears. I'm surprised he even managed to message back.
Starting point is 00:51:30 You God, that guy is terrible communication. He's shocking. Mind you, he's got my water blaster and I kept forgetting to pick it up. That's on me. Is he moving today? You let him have your water blaster. Ryan. Oh, okay, sorry.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Ryan was like, Ryan was like, could we use the wood? Maddie asked. And then I was like, yeah, they went around and I was like, do you need to know how to use that? And he's like, no, no, no, Ryan will be doing it. Yeah, he's not a water blast. He's not an order blaster guy. Yeah, he's an order blaster guy.
Starting point is 00:51:56 This year I cried on my birthday because my boyfriend had dumped me two days before the birthday and five days before our trip to Fiji. Oh, at least do the trip. Nah. I'm going on my own, though. It's my birthday. I hope she still went to Fiji.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Can we get an update 180? Did you go to Fiji? Did you go to Fiji by yourself? Or did you, like, ditch the whole Fiji thing too? My birthday was the first day of New Zealand-wide locked out of March 2020. I just wanted mac and cheese for dinner, but it was impossible to get past the cheese or flour. cried
Starting point is 00:52:25 I feel that I had to go on my 18th birthday to my pop's funeral I cried a lot on my 18th birthday but an interesting way to have your first legal drink at a wake with a whole bunch of old people Yes
Starting point is 00:52:41 We want to know right now Right now Why did you cry in your birthday And we are bombarded with messages of tears On the big day It's meant to be your happy day No dude It's meant to be
Starting point is 00:52:54 No, dude Oh by the way She didn't go to Fiji by herself She didn't go to Fiji That was the person That was the person that cried on their birthday Because they got dumped Two days before
Starting point is 00:53:01 Five days before Fiji Trap Janelle Why did you cry on your birthday? Hi Hi I was out at brunch With some friends
Starting point is 00:53:13 And got a call As everyone was leaving And paying From the neighbour To say that a few days earlier They had seen my cat get hit by a car. We had then left it a few days.
Starting point is 00:53:25 You wouldn't have. Well, no, so the cat had gone missing and so I'd printed out some flyers and dropped them around the neighbourhoods and then they'd seen it that morning. Right. Yeah, so my cat had passed away and was at the vet. So it gets a little bit
Starting point is 00:53:38 some morbid humour, if you guys are up for that. Dude, all right. I love that. I love that humour. I love that humour. We love that humour a lot of the time. So they'd frozen our cat in a curled-up position, you know, how they do on their sides.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Well, like in a freezer? Yeah, yeah, in a freezer. But it was in a massive warehouse stationary box. So we went and picked her up and there was a massive box. I think warehouse stationer would like to distance themselves from this memory. No, I think they're a great place to go for a box if you need to put a cat in a freezer for a few days. So anyway, we brought her home because we decided to bury her under her favorite tree. And then I obviously we can't bury this massive box.
Starting point is 00:54:16 So I went and got a shoe box that I thought, oh, that's about the size of what the cat is. Anyway, the husband and my best friend's husband dug this hole to bury the cat. And then my husband had to transfer the cat into the shoe box. Didn't fit. Didn't fit. It was about an inch, like an inch too big. And so my husband is like making eye contact with me with this really awkward like, oh my God, this is my wife's dead cat.
Starting point is 00:54:44 And he's just like pushing her into this box. I'm going to get in the box So I was obviously really upset My cat has just dies Bearing it on my birthday In tears And then just the look on his face I just I couldn't help
Starting point is 00:54:59 I cracked up laughing But my best friend thought it was just like A new wave of tears So she comes over and is hugging me And going oh it's okay And I'm just cracking up laughing So yeah Morbid humour
Starting point is 00:55:11 But yeah That was why I fight in the best Did you end up getting a new cat Do you have a new cat now? We did the following year but then that's a really sad story as well Oh, come on, come on, come on, we're here now Oh, no, she got attacked by roaming dogs
Starting point is 00:55:27 Oh my God! Yeah That is really sad Turn your mind off if you're going to laugh, Fletch I wasn't laughing He was an exasperated outpouring of breath She was like, that's insane That's why my cats
Starting point is 00:55:42 That's why there's those targeted ads in Auckland for roaming dogs Yeah, no, we are in Auckland Yeah, I do have those Or you're in West Auckland. Okay. Well, Janelle, I hear that, Janelle. Thank you for sharing. By the way, I always wrap a dead cat in a towel and bury it.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Yes. More malleable. Yeah. You don't have to bigger, the hole. And then they kind of can just be pushed into the hole. Why happens for the towel? The towel just degrades over time. Anonymous, why did you cry on your birthday?
Starting point is 00:56:09 I cried because my baby gave me gastro and I shit my pants. Yeah, okay. Another one. A couple of those. A couple of those. Gastro doesn't know it's your birthday. It's just the bacterial infection of the gastro into it. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:56:23 How much shit made it into the pants, anonymous on your birthday? Not too much. I realised what was happening, you know. Like a teaspoon or like half a cup? Quickly shut off the valve when you knew it was. Yeah. Half a cup. If we were to put it in a measuring cup, what would we do it a half cup?
Starting point is 00:56:39 If it was a metric measurement. That's the thing that's hard to tell is because a quarter of a cup of shit will go along away. It might feel like half a cup of shit. It's a bit like food colouring. Yes. Only a couple of drops shit. Need it. Vanilla reasons.
Starting point is 00:56:50 You only need a little bit. Okay. We can't end with that. Give us a couple of texts. Oh my 21st birthday. My dad didn't show up and I was told by his wife had just been sentenced to eight years in prison. Okay, no, no, that's not a good one.
Starting point is 00:57:02 My dad left on my birthday to get milk and never came back. Nope, that's not good enough. My partner and I have the same birthday, and he hates it and refuses to acknowledge it. I love mine. He doesn't celebrate birthdays. Everyone forgot my birthday. They dad, brothers, best friend's boyfriend. Mum, remember, they don't love you, mum.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Booked a massive house in Marlborough for my 30th birthday. Only three friends tuned up. Silver lining, 15 years later, they're still my only three best friends. Yes, it's quality over quantity. Cryed because my boyfriend at the time decided he'd rather go drinking with his friends and spend my birthday with me and literally said, you'll have another one next year. I cried on my birthday because a man had a heart attack in our driveway
Starting point is 00:57:37 and my mum had to give him CPR whilst all my friends were at my house for a party. I cried because I got my first ever period on my 13th birthday. It was all a bit much. Now to the timing, though. 13, you say? Your teen, 10 years, boom. The Z&M Podcast Network. Play ZDM's Fletch forne and Haley.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Somebody just messaged in saying there's already a queue forming outside Eden Park for Metallica, front of the mosh, but might be questionable, Haley. If you're not in Auckland, it's pissing down at the moment. Why do people... I don't think even an umbrella would do it because of the rain of getting around the sides, because of the wind. I don't get why people line up for concerts so early. Like, just push your way to the front, like, everybody. everyone else.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Yeah. White male, speaking. I always hold your hand and be like, take me! Yeah, hold on. That's what I always say, hold on, and we push through a crowd. Well, get ready for my elbows. Are you going in the, what do they call it? The snake pit.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Snake pit's, it's tiny, tiny, tiny. And then there's the GA1. I'm in GA1. We need to pay extra to get into the snake pit. Extra, like $1,000. What? Because you can only fit like 50 people, it's tiny. Good Lord.
Starting point is 00:58:41 But they're going to be thrashing? Yeah, they'll be thrashing. So someone paid $1,000. get punched in the face by a 50-year-old Bogan. I reckon people have paid more. Really? There'd be some cashed-up Bogan's in that snake, but... Now, if you're GA, are you going to give people your staff infection?
Starting point is 00:58:56 I think I think I might have stopped staff for the third time. Okay. I reckon I've stopped staff. She stopped staff. Just if you are at Metallica tonight, watch out for Haley. She could still be... Don't touch your face. Don't touch your face.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Imagine if there's a please wash all your sheets notice for everybody that goes to Eden Park tonight. Like, it was the tool concert, right, that had the COVID-Gone. in the mosh pit and then everyone was like hey if you were on the left side of the tall mosh pit. Hey we laugh someone could go to night with measles and I'm just saying yeah that's same. I've been double jab. We're not out of the woods. You're double jab. Last
Starting point is 00:59:26 week I went to the PlayStation 30th birthday. Oh yeah. It's 30 years since PlayStation was released in New Zealand. PlayStation 1, yeah. I remember that. Yeah, I remember the PlayStation 1. Beautiful piece of cap. Never had one. Beautiful. No, we had to hire ours from United Video. Yes. We'd hire
Starting point is 00:59:42 it for the weekend. We get one game. Off the need for speed And just play it all damn wicked Yes Yeah I used to play Shane Worn cricket So On the what?
Starting point is 00:59:52 They had a PlayStation 1 At the PlayStation Hooked up for Jonah Loma rugby Yes And also it's the anniversary Of losing Jonah Loma Yeah it is 10 years ago
Starting point is 01:00:01 Jonah? Jonah the lead Jonah the giant My kidney brother I used to play Shane Worn cricket I was great on the PlayStation 1 It's Shane Worn Cricket So I think sports What was it PlayStation 2
Starting point is 01:00:08 Oh there probably would have been PlayStation 1 Yeah Do you know who I used to play Shane Worn Cricket with Hayden Jones. Good thoughts. Who's that? Oh, who does the news then? Yeah, he does the news.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Yeah, we do good sorts on the news. Really? Really? I'd always hope that I'd be nominated for a good sorts. Jesus. Like, what for? Just been a good sort? Like, do you ever see the people he talks to see the actual community,
Starting point is 01:00:36 the people that do good in the community and help others? Oh, I'm bloody providing chuckles a minute. I'm aiming to. Why, you just made me chuckle. What a good sort. Actually, you gave me the biggest laugh I've had a week. Yeah, good sort. Was this the play set?
Starting point is 01:00:49 Was this the Shane Warn cricket you play? Yeah, that was it. Shane War 99. Yeah, it was a series. Oh, my God. Yeah, dude. Fifteen Australian dollars, if you want to pick that up and get going with it again. Yeah, it's a classic.
Starting point is 01:00:58 The game, they had on the PlayStation 1, because they had every generation of PlayStation hooked up. They had a PlayStation 1, and the background was like a 90s room. Yep. And there was a couch, and the PlayStation 1 was playing John Luma Rugby, and it was hooked up to a 14-inch CRT TV, the Tube one. the fat ones that were deeper than they were wide. And my children, both Jen Alphas, a 13-year-old and 11-year-old,
Starting point is 01:01:21 were just like, what's going on here? What's that? I said, this is a 14-inch television. And they were like, who would use these things? So think about a subway, big subway, a little bit more than that. Think about your laptop with a foot of mechanics behind it. Yes. And they were like, so where would these TVs go?
Starting point is 01:01:41 Would people carry them around and take them on? On the bus. On the dresser. Yeah. I was like, well, we got our 14-inch television, because we were a one television household. And then when my parents invested in a caravan, and that lasted two or three summers
Starting point is 01:01:54 because dad wasn't allowed to smack us or scream at us in the caravan parks. Yeah. He didn't like that. Way less fun. He liked, yeah, sometimes giving us a precautionary yelling at and a smack at the start of the jade just to make sure we didn't wreck anything in the caravan park.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Just bank one. Yeah, bank a smack. And a scream at and it's scream at us. Look at how upset you're making your mother and, like, looking back on it, she was probably upset at just the whole vibe in general. Yeah. But anyway.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Terri, can you have upset that anyway? I don't know, Dad. And then he'd be like, why are you boys always hitting each other? Come here, smack, smack, smack. We're like, I don't know. You've taught us conflict resolution. Smack, smack, smack.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Anyway, it was a different time and we love him dearly. Yeah, we do. He was doing his best with the tools he had at his disposal. He was doing what every other parent was doing, to be fair. It was how we parented. So it was when we had the caravan for that brief amount of time that he invested in a 14-inch television.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Daddy. Now, when the caravan got sold, the 14-inch television went into Philip and Vaughan's room. Smack down in the middle of the bedroom. No remote, if you wanted to change a TV, you had to get it and push the button. We'll get the broomstick.
Starting point is 01:02:52 How old were you when you shared a room of Philip? All the way through. And did we... Until he left in 1999, he went to university and I was 17. When did we discover the joy that was the... Late. Having your own room.
Starting point is 01:03:04 The tips of our fingers. Late. Late. Very late, actually. I've been making up for 70% but late. So they were like, and I was like, well, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:15 and I explained the room, because my parents still live in the same house, I said it would sit against the wall and they were like, how did you see? You just looked at it. You saw it. And I was like, you know what else will blow you?
Starting point is 01:03:25 You're going to get up and push the button. You had to get up and push the button on the bottom. And they were like, oh, so how did you watch Netflix and stuff on it? I was like, here's going to blow your bloody, he's going to blow your mind. We watched what we were told to when we were told to. We didn't ever, we had to get up and wiggle the rabbit ears to get different,
Starting point is 01:03:41 Like if we went from three to two, it was a different config in the rabbities. Yeah. And they were like, okay, so did you play video games on it? Like the video games here? I'm like, yeah, we did. And we had a switch on the back that changed it from TV to TV. Yeah, and it was just like... Mine's blown.
Starting point is 01:03:57 They just couldn't believe it. And so would you take it to school on the bus? It was not... I was like, no, it had to be plugged into power. We didn't have batteries capable of powering screens like that at the time. The whole experience, they were just like the olden days, must have been wild. The olden days.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Yeah, the olden days. Olden days, what, the 90s? Yeah, the olden days. Well, they're 30, halfway through the 90s is 30 years ago. So you think about when we were halfway through the 90s and we said the olden days
Starting point is 01:04:25 and we were referring to 1965. 60s, yeah. That's wild, eh? Yeah. Wow. Can I just sit on that for a moment? I stayed at a motel over the weekend
Starting point is 01:04:36 and they had a, I would say maybe it was a 14 inch or a 16 inch at best was the TV screen provided. Yeah. And I was sort of the same, like, oh, it's little, isn't it? Really not getting a lot of detail. Did we sit closer, or did we just not need to see as much?
Starting point is 01:04:54 No, because if we sat closer, our parents would be like, you'll get square eyes. But then also when your parents were going to bed and you're not supposed to be on the TV, but it's the loudspeaker, you'd have to like turn it right down and sit real close and be like, have it on two? Yeah, have it on two. Yes, but they didn't wake up.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Well, you had to have it on two, you couldn't have it on three. I don't put volume on odd numbers unless it's five. Two. Two, five or ten? Two, four, five, six, eight, ten. Only acceptable. And to be honest, it's got to be five or ten.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Yeah. Anything else doesn't sit right. The ZDM Podcast Network. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day, day. We are We are looking all this week with iconic characters with shockingly little screen time
Starting point is 01:05:47 Beetlejuice was Monday Jaws was yesterday, the shark, Bruce, the mechanical shark Which yes, on further investigation it seems the Bruce in Finding Nemo, the shark Bruce and Finding Nemo was indeed an homage. An homage, an amomage to the jaws robot. Today, we might be peaking. It might be peaking.
Starting point is 01:06:06 It's really great way to get through Hump Day. Because today we're looking at Darth Vader and Star Wars A New Hope from 1977. Star Wars, which one was that? The first one. It was originally just called Star Wars. Right. And then they chucked the title on it and called it a New Hope.
Starting point is 01:06:23 It's the first one ever. We're introduced to look Skywalker. Okay. I know these ones. These are the ones I've seen. The three, I've seen the three. Nine. Three?
Starting point is 01:06:32 Yeah, three. What about the three before and the three after and all the little side quest ones? We mean the three before? The prequels. Where we learn about Anakin Skywalker. No, no, no, I've seen the three originals. Yeah. And then, so then in the late 90s, early 2000s, we learned the origin stories of
Starting point is 01:06:46 Anakin Skywalker who becomes Darth Vader. I saw Jarja Binks. Jaja Binks was in the prequels. Okay. I've seen one of those. Okay. And then there was three more afterwards. So none of those after ones.
Starting point is 01:06:57 good, eh? No, they were great. Okay. Everything that's got Star Wars in the title, to me is a 10 out of 10, we'll watch again. Love it all. I'm more of a bridesmaids girl. Yeah, great movie.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Oh my God, great. Do you know what I make? Great film. I'm more of a 10 things I hate about you. Well, we're not even talking about 10 things I hate about you. We had to talk about Darth Vader's rolling Star Wars. How many, how many, Chuck me, your guess at what percentage of Star Wars a New Hope
Starting point is 01:07:22 Darth Vader was on screen for? Five minutes. No, that's not a percentage, hon. That's a time. Well, you can give minutes if you want, but you're low. It's more than that. This movie is two hours, one minute long. 15.
Starting point is 01:07:33 I will say he was in 17% of the film. He was in 6% of the film. Oh, wow. He was only on screen for eight minutes. What do I mean I was low? Five minutes was not low. You went too low. You went too low.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Like five minutes was like close to eight. That's so close to eight. Six, seven, eight. Yeah. I was literally, you could have said to me, you're so close. close. Yeah, but you were definitely low.
Starting point is 01:07:59 You were low. Five is less than eight. No, but then you were arguing that five is less than eight. Yeah. You were like we could always let it go. Then I went 15 because you made it sound like. Well, no, you're going too high. Literally the film's like two hours, 20 he said.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Two hours one minute. Two hours one minute and you were three minutes off getting a right. I was so close. Well, so he's in six percent of the movie. That's an injustice. What's that? That's an injustice that you didn't say to him. You're close.
Starting point is 01:08:23 No, it's not. He was low. You're going to die on this hill? I said high. And then so by now you know it's between 5 and 15. I want you both, I want you all to know listeners that both of the men have their arms folded. Oh, that was hostile. I'm out.
Starting point is 01:08:36 That was, I didn't know if, no, across my arms. Out of this break, I'm done. Like, I was so close. He was in the movie for 6% of the movie. It's actually a lack of respect, to be honest. He's doing it too disrespect to you. Yeah, he is. Because I was so right.
Starting point is 01:08:50 You were so close. Vader was supposed to be, according to George Lucas was playing, Vader was supposed to be the big bad in the second movie. And in the first movie. first one he wasn't supposed to be the focal point but of course he comes in he's huge he's like scared you were scared of him as a kid hey yeah hell yes yeah we've never seen anything like it no no and then the voice the james oil joan voice immediately made it iconic he made an appearance at cobb and my parents took me i was like i don't want to go near that just
Starting point is 01:09:15 give me my co-brunchies and my traffic light mock towel and i'll get there out of here before the elevator shows up i've got my crunchies on my fingers yeah i'm doing that i'm reading my cop crunches like rings i got my pink panther i don't have to see that guy. Yeah. He like cuts people on half with a lightsaber. Yeah, do you come. Anyone can I be in half, didn't he?
Starting point is 01:09:33 So he wasn't supposed to be Tarkin. Of course, we all know, Grandma Tarkin. What are you talking about? If we've watched Rogue One, we were in the origin of the Death Star and the Death Star's ultimate weakness, which is the event against the Road One. He's talking about Preston Wrig.
Starting point is 01:09:47 Road One rules, because it's, it led into the Andor. The Andor, both Andor season one and two ends with Rogue One. You'd love it. It's great. Do you know what you'd love? Bridesmaids. I do love Bridesmaids, but it's no star. Hold on just a minute.
Starting point is 01:10:00 And then the weakness with the vent and the vent goes down in a boom. So Tarkin's on the death star when it blows up. RIP Tarkin. And that's when Darth Vader kind of steps up. Okay, nerd. Wrap it up. Along with the emperor and then the emperor is the big bad. And the third one.
Starting point is 01:10:13 But the emperors is in the second one. Oh, you've lost me anyway. So. But it is interesting that he was on for just over five minutes. Just three more minutes than five minutes. So kind of like closer to 10. Closer to 10 than five. An injustice.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Six percent. They say, they've, they've, studied why it was so iconic. His entrance through the smoke was the reveal. They said the reveal of the character was iconic immediately. There was an interrogation droid. And when he forced choked that guy, when he was like, your wizardry and he's like,
Starting point is 01:10:38 I find your lack of faith disturbing. And that guy's like, what's happening? He's choking him. He's not touching him. So we learn about the force. He introduced that whole situation. And then of course he was chasing. Anakin Skywalker was Hayden Christensen. Yes. And that's who ends up being Darth Vader.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Yeah. Spoiler alert. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You should watch the Canobi series. Because Hayden and Christensen comes back and plays Darth Vader inside the thing. But he was a good boy. Troubled. Troubled, yeah. Troubled in a rage.
Starting point is 01:11:11 He was a little bit late coming to the Jedi Academy for the training, so of course he was powered mostly by his emotion. And then his mother was killed. His mother was killed. And he went back and he just lost his mind. I didn't know the Anakin Skywalker was Darth Vader. Did you not know this? How have we been friends?
Starting point is 01:11:25 Close friends. genuine friends for this long and you didn't know Anakin SkyWil Probably because you don't respect time I think that I just didn't I respect time That's why I'll say you're low When you're underneath your estimated time
Starting point is 01:11:37 Was Anakin on for more than five-ish minutes? Anakin kind of ruled the whole thing Especially Revenge of the Sitt Okay nerd wrap it up I'm done with this chat We love it we love it So he despite only being on the film No we're done for it
Starting point is 01:11:48 It doesn't matter I'm doing a summation sentence Ah we don't need it So we've got messages in Fletcher's pretty close Thank you But you would agree on the low side. Five is on the low side of age.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Five is so close to eight. I said I thought your flavour of Tism was trains, or is it Star Wars? It's both. Oh, you wait until he says the Star Wars train. I'm a, what? I'm a Neapolitan ice cream of Tism. Okay, I got three flavors. And they kind of switch and change.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Okay. I'm an ice cream parlor. Whatever ice cream I'm in the mood for a bit, really love her. Five minutes is 4.2% versus 8 minutes been 6%. So it was close, but low. But high is 80%, 80 minutes. Five minutes is, some is in the math. Five minutes is 4.2% of the film.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Yeah, I just read that out. So you're not listening, so your opinion is now void. No, I was just reading the other, the feedback. But people are on my sign, by that. People are saying yesterday was way better. Despite being in the film. Oh, yeah, this is the worst fact that I, since calendar. Stop this chat immediately on board.
Starting point is 01:12:53 It's not. Despite this film being in the film for only eight minutes. Oh, no one here. Hashtag Team Fletch. Dar Fahead is the most recognizable villain in cinematic history. Take that on board. And yes, you were low, because five is less than eight. So today's fact of the day.
Starting point is 01:13:10 As Darth Vader was only in 6% of the first Star Wars movie. It's pretty close to 4.2. The fact of the day, day, day, day, day, day. A do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do The ZM podcast network Play ZM's Fleshforn and Haley A stat out of America in the US The average American spends 147 American dollars annually on decorations
Starting point is 01:13:44 I'm thinking So they add more and more every year. What is like... And that's the average American, so even if people have got the whole set-up and not buying anything, somebody else is pretty much buying a whole set-up. Or it's just the average of the annual spend.
Starting point is 01:13:59 The total market for Christmas lights and decorations was estimated in 2023 to be $7.8 billion in the US alone. That's Christmas lights, decorations, tinsel, all of that. Because I want to be a Christmas house. And I've been talking to my neighbour, but they're still renovating. I don't think we're ready. I think maybe, Rosa, we might have to do next year.
Starting point is 01:14:18 You mean what you want the whole street to be? So one, I need to add more decorations to my tree. She's a bit bare. Two, I need to warm up the lights. I got cold ones by accident last year. I remember it was a point of contention. What do you mean cold? Cold hue rather than warm hue.
Starting point is 01:14:31 You know, like a bicycle white versus candle. Yep. But I want the outside of my house to be a Christmas house and my dream is for me to spread chair in the street and get everyone involved. And there's two neighbours already who are like, let's do it. But I just don't think we're ready. I haven't thought about it.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Like, did you hear before the show, She's moaning about her power bill. I know. But for Christmas chair, I will happily keep the heat pump off. Okay, so you'll sacrifice. I don't know, man. It gets Muggy late December. I know.
Starting point is 01:15:00 Maybe forego the spa pool heading. Okay, forego. No. Eating. Maybe if it'll go eating. Turn the fridge off. Turn the fridge off. Yeah, because I want to be a Christmas person.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Yeah. Well, and this is what I wanted to ask this morning. Do you or someone you know go over the top for Christmas? Like, you know, some people have multiple trees. Some people go all out in the backyard, the front yard. Again, like you say, to more for the neighbourhood feeling to show off. Some people start in October. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Some people, I think, I'm sure I know someone who just, like, leaves it up. The Christmas tree. What? I'm sure. I mean, once it gets to March, you know, like we're so close to December. We're just going to get to Christmas anyway. Well, with 36 days away from Christmas, 0,800 at him.
Starting point is 01:15:45 We'd love to take your calls. Text in, 9, 6.9. do you or someone you know go absolutely overboard for Christmas? We want to know this morning who goes overboard with Christmas decorations. Georgia, do you go overboard with Christmas? Do you have a tree at your house or do you not bother? It's my absolute favorite time of the year. Yeah, but just one tree?
Starting point is 01:16:06 Oh, one tree, but like decorations everywhere. It's my, it's literally my husband's mom. If you go to their house, unreal. Like it's vomit Christmas. No, it's the best. It's not vomit. just the best. Isn't it's everywhere?
Starting point is 01:16:20 It's everywhere. What's that store that sells? As in, Christmas came in through the front drawer and vomited Christmas. Literally. Christmas gastro. Both ends just... Briar, who goes overboard at Christmas? Is this you?
Starting point is 01:16:34 Not usually, but this year my kids are both at an age where they can't really agree on what decorations we're having on the main tree. And so we decided to let them have a tree each in their bedrooms this year. Oh, fun. Fun! Okay, that's a bit overboard, isn't it? That would be cool. If I was a kid, my brother would have had, like, Formula One and maybe, like, guitars and stuff, and maybe Creed.
Starting point is 01:16:59 And then mine would be, like, Pink and Barbie and, oh, that's a good idea. Yeah, Briar, thank you. Stacey, who goes overboard for Christmas? Morning, guys. I just want to say, first-time caller, long-time listeners. Yes, welcome, welcome, Stacey, welcome. Yeah, so it's my best friend Casey, she goes overboard. She has a snow machine out on her lawn, and she makes a community event for everyone to come down.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Her whole family dresses up in matching uniforms, matching outfits, and hands out hot chocolates and gingerbreads. Oh, that's a dream. That's actually a chronic cute. It's snow in New Zealand. No one's going to buy that. What's the snow made of? Well, it's more like, you know, the fake snows, so the phone. It's not like foam.
Starting point is 01:17:48 It's a horrible machine. I love that. And then does the whole family dress up like the, what's that nativity scene? And do they get a donkey in? Do they get a donkey? No, no, there's no donkey. There's choreographed lights. But they actually wear a little matching Grinch outfits, actually.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Yay. What city is they said? This is out in Beechlands, in Orphan. people. I have to go for drive. No, it's east or not. It's just so far away, Stacey, the Smyterwell looks real little out there.
Starting point is 01:18:20 It's in the wrong direction. Yeah, that's really cool. It's nice to hear that something's happening out there, though. It's really cute, though. You know, the locals. No one's going to West Auckland. No one's going to East Auckland just to visit. Also, no one's going to cue you.
Starting point is 01:18:32 I was just going to say. You ain't much better. The traffic at the weekend would say otherwise. Stacey, thank you so much for joining the show this morning. Some message is in. Someone's dad goes Christmas crazy. Four trees, inflatables at the front, Santa garage cover, lights all around and inside the house.
Starting point is 01:18:49 He'll decorate and then sit outside as people walk past and invite them in to see the Christmas magic all around the inside of the house. Oh, that's pretty cute. And we've also heard next from someone who does leave their tree up. Okay. All year. All year.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Longer than a year. Wow. That's a no. We want to know who goes super hard with Christmas. Over the top. I'm going to get solar lights to combat. That's a great idea. To combat the power bill and become a Christmas house.
Starting point is 01:19:15 Yeah, that's great idea. So next year it'll be, who goes hard for Christmas? Haley Jones Browell will be the answer. I was in both Bunnings and Miter 10 at the weekend, and there were Christmas lights everywhere in both. I'm on the Mata 10 website right now. You know, no, I'm a 10 man through and through it. I know you right and orange, but I will say the opposition
Starting point is 01:19:30 have Star Wars boast Christmas decorations. Do you want me to swing in so you're not seen dead in there? You bet. I'll got you. You bet. I'll do that for you. Thank you. Beth has called through.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Beth, who goes over the top for Christmas? That would be my dad. And now my husband. Okay. Oh, is there a little bit of that competition between your dad and your husband? Oh, yeah, 100%. Okay. And what do they do?
Starting point is 01:19:58 So my dad's always been a bit Christmas mad. He has about four Christmas trees, a couple of inflatable. He'll decorate. I've mentioned before, but he'll decorate the whole outside of the house. and then he'll just sit there and the drive with this drink just waiting for people to come past and he'll invite them all in
Starting point is 01:20:16 but he has yeah lights everywhere I love that does mum hate that because you know mum's hate people coming into their house because they haven't had a tidy no not really She's always got a tidy house
Starting point is 01:20:28 Oh okay Amazing I think she just she just enjoys having Everyone over and all the grandkids and stuff That's pretty cute That's really fun It's so good Christmas It brings such joy
Starting point is 01:20:38 doesn't that? Yeah, it's great. Whereabouts in the country? His dad doing this? So he's in Rolliston in Christchurch. Okay, lovely. Can I ask just a question
Starting point is 01:20:49 because I'm becoming Christmassy? Does he use command hooks or real nails and hooks? Command hooks mostly. Last year he did decorate our caravan. He put blue tack on it, which we said a big no to this year
Starting point is 01:21:02 because it rips. Greasy marks as well. You've got to push it on and roll it off. Yeah, he didn't respect the blue. Where are you thinking to put in command hooks on your household? Outside, because I don't want to perforate the weatherboard. Yeah, I wouldn't.
Starting point is 01:21:16 And some of them come with a little gutter hooks. So you can hang them on the go around. That would be perfect. That would be nice. Beath, thank you. Some messages in to finish. So many. We're very festive in this country.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Somebody said, I often have no income over December January. So I do my Christmas shopping throughout the year when I see the good specials. And then can tick it away on some. decorations and some lights and stuff. Yeah, the best thing to do, and I know it's like, now it's going to be impatient. Get it after Christmas. Yeah, they won't move it.
Starting point is 01:21:46 Where everything's like 60%, 70% off. Yeah. And then wait for the next year. My partner's auntie has 65 warehouse boxes full of Christmas decoration. She's got a dedicated garden shed. To storing it all. That is wild.
Starting point is 01:22:02 I reckon that's a dream in life, like to do that when you're older. Like, when I'm like 60, I hope I'm like that. We've had a couple of people saying they've, leave them up. I leave my Christmas tree up throughout the year because once you take the bobbles and shit off, it's just an indoor tree. That's true. Somebody else said they changed their theme throughout the year. We've had it up for two years straight. We've had a Mexican theme. Okay. We had a dress up as Michael Jackson once. It was a running joke, so it never got taken down. Okay. And we just kind of like, yeah, change the decorate. You could do an Easter one.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Yeah, I love that idea. You could have a Valentine's Day tree. They changed their four-year-old's Christmas duvet. Remember those Christmas duvetes that were exploding? or something you remember? Wait, what? There were those Christmas duvets. I don't remember exploding. They were at Kmart and they had a chemical in them and it was like bad, bad, bad.
Starting point is 01:22:48 They were like, recall, recall. Really? Yeah. I think it was last Christmas. Asbestos, because that's in this magic sand and that was being sold at Kmart. But also, how great would a Christmas themed duvet be? No, not in my house.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Why, yeah, but why have them all right? But you're not going to sleep with a guy with a Ford Falcon duvet. Yeah, that's different because that's Ford Falcon Duvei doesn't get washed. Ford falcons. It doesn't get washed. I don't remember this happening, Haley, but you are correct. The various Christmas bedding sold it came out.
Starting point is 01:23:19 There was a mystery of Mrs. Claw's quilt cover. Yes, yes. I remember this. The reversible elf cover. And all of these were recalled because of the, you know, they used strong chemicals and had a smell. What was on the behind of the elf? What? What was in the what?
Starting point is 01:23:34 Behind of the elf. Why did you say bee? Because the other side. I don't know. You're doing something up there. What are you putting something in the behind of an elf? Georgia. You know, sometimes.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Sexuality and the sexual practices of Sanders' al's is no business of ours. It was reversible. I wanted to know what was on the behind of the elf. I don't have a different color. Sometimes I think we should just leave Georgia to her own show. Yeah. Oh, guys, your life would be boring without me. Go, don't Google that on the work Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 01:24:01 You'll get a warning. You will. Hey, remember how you just gave that Uber driver five stars because you wanted five stars back. Yes. Let's do that with this podcast. Oh yeah. Review it five stars.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Tell your friends and we'll do the same for you if you ever need a review for anything. But where are you giving me my five stars? Well, I don't know. Do you own a restaurant or something? Yes. If you give us five stars on this podcast, tell us where you would like your review and we'll review. Even where we won't even go. We'll just review your thing.
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