ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - November 21st 2025
Episode Date: November 20, 2025On today's episode of the Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley Big Pod, what was the worst kiss of your life? Raccoon News Shrinkflation is hitting bakers SLP - Would you put Menstrual Blood on your face to ...be hotter? Eminem is suing Top 6 - Things that wont be happening at Christmas this year Is Timothee Chalamet a rapper? Study says we are fat and sat Movie News What did you do at your school talent show? Fact of the day Worst kiss of your life? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Good morning, happy Friday, welcome to the show
Fletch Fawn and Haley
Two Minutes past six
Haley joining us from our Nelson studio
The Rutherford Hotel
Oh, okay, fancy
Yeah, this is that nice one that has the vintage car
In the foyer, you know?
Oh, really?
Lovely.
They love their vintage cars down here.
Yeah, I remember when I lived in Nelson,
that's where all the sports teams would say
like the All Blacks and stuff.
Oh, really? Farron Town.
Yeah, well, you know, pretty posh.
I'm going to tell you what, though, Nelson,
my God, the sunshine yesterday.
Beautiful.
Didn't realize, do we talk about this,
that Nelson came second in the sunniest place this year?
Well, it's quite often over the years won it.
Yeah, it has.
Who was the sunniest place?
Blenheim, yeah.
Yeah, Blenheim.
Atop of the South, it's always gorgeous.
It's stunning.
It's stunning.
We should move.
Fiercely competitive.
They are.
Now, last night, seven days live, Haley and Nelson,
but tonight you're in Wellington.
We are in Wellington at the fabulous opera house.
And then tomorrow, Parmy North.
Okay, well, still ticket, seven days.
com.com.
If you want to buy some tickets.
Will you be, when you go from Wellington to Palmer's the North,
you'll be taking the Lundy Highway?
You won't be flying or
Oh my God, you can take the train
No, surely we'll be in a fan
No, you'll be in the van
You'll be in the van, we'll be in a van, hot
It'll just be a little van, a rental car or a van
Now coming up on the show, Vaughn you've got the top six for us
Yeah, apparently mum's a quiet quitting Christmas
Fair enough
And you know what? Fear, bloody enough
What are they relinquishing control of the Christmas meal?
Yeah, just step in there.
Because, what, they're sick of everybody?
You know, mum's totally going to be able to step back and not be involved.
Absolutely hands off, you know, just sit back, let you do it.
That's famously good at that.
Well, I've got the top six things that won't be happening this Christmas
because mum's quiet quitting.
Next on the show, though.
Move across gay sheep, because Shannon has a new animal passion.
We have raccoon news next.
Love a trash panda.
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Now, producer Shannon wants to share with us some news,
and it is titled Raccoon News,
and so we immediately said, let's start the show.
show with that. Yeah, cute, because it's cute.
It is incredibly cute and it's
scientific. I've got facts
guys. Okay. A new study
has come out of the University of Arkansas.
Arkansas. And they're
talking about raccoons which are
notoriously like pesty over there
you know. I love raccoons.
So cute. Well this new science
has come out that they are evolving
to become cuter because they want to
get fed more by humans.
What? So basically raccoons
that are found in areas that have humans,
their snouts are getting shorter
and their faces are getting cuter
and like smushier
because we feed them more
but in the areas where there's no humans
and they're just off on their own will
they still look as the same.
Yeah because that would be the one thing
I'd change about a raccoon
is I'd give it more of a cat
smushy cat
and so basically you're evolving
to look more domesticated
is what they're doing.
Do you think they're a bit pointy for you
Fletch?
Bit too pointy.
Yeah I like a smushy nose
like my cat.
Smushed snout.
Yeah, my cat's smushy.
Looks like they ran into a wall kind of style.
Well, not that fun.
I don't like those flat cats.
They look like they run into a wall.
No.
Exotic.
Exotic.
Like the Japanese ones.
Yeah, yeah.
And then they always get the gunky eyes.
Those ones.
They can't breathe.
They're cute.
Yeah, they're cute.
But I like a bit more of a fluffy face.
A fat head as well, because a raccoon's got a big fat body and then their head is out of proportion.
So a slightly bigger head would be nice.
The whole study is like wild.
There's a rural.
suburban continuum and they've based on exactly how big their snouts are and the angle of the
snout based on the amount of humans around them and yeah they're trying to get cuter is it so we're
not feeding the ugly ones we're and so the evolution's like oh oh yeah makes them cuter right
is there a way that we can do this as humans make ourselves cute there must be a physical reason
for it to get fed hmm to fit into tiny cans that's what I'm thinking is it like rubbish bins or
They need them longer in the wild.
The whole study from the University of Arkansas
is saying that it is to domesticate themselves,
to become more apparent to humans.
But you can't just choose to have a shorter nose.
Well, it's evolution, right?
It has to happen over many generations.
Like the one that had that slight mutational difference.
Evolution adapts to the environment around you, right?
So it's...
Does it have to be physical, though?
Well, I've just seen you a photo of this raccoon in the study.
This is the most domesticated raccoon.
Oh, my God.
That's perfect.
I want that.
But that's also a baby, which is unfair because babies are always cute.
Oh, yeah.
Like puppies are always cuter, aren't they?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That is so cute, though.
That is cute.
I love raccoon.
I think humans get cuter as we get older.
I don't know if we do.
You keep telling yourself that, hon.
See all the cute boys around and you're like, that's cute.
The Fletchhorn and Haley, big pod.
It seems at the moment everything's getting smaller but me.
Well, we do actually have to discuss today the, what is it, the New Zealand Health Report?
We've all had a report done on us, and apparently, guys, it's not good.
Spoiler, yeah, it's not great.
Spoiler is not good.
A bit of a blowout?
Yeah, if those jeans are feeling a little tighter, there's a reason.
You're not alone.
I've moved to exclusively stretchy pants, so then I don't notice.
it's hard.
Yeah, good.
But I mean everything, we talk about this a bit,
shrinkflation, products getting smaller,
you're getting less of the product for the same amount of money,
chocolate blocks are smaller,
bickies are smaller, chips.
Yeah.
Chips are smaller.
Rations, burger rings, they're all little.
You can't even propose with them anymore.
Yeah, apples, bananas, they've all shrunk.
Everything's tiny.
Well, do you know who's hating this?
I actually would disagree on the banana side of things.
I feel like bananas are bigger than ever.
You guys, I think I would have a complex.
I might have a wopper in my bag here.
I feel a bit weird buying a wopper banana.
Oh no, that's not a wopper, but that's pretty big.
That's as big as I'd go.
Would you?
Some of the big ones, I'm like, it's like you're eating two bananas.
Yeah.
It's too much.
Do you consider that to be big, Vaughn?
Well, that's a two-hander.
Right.
No, you've gone down over the balls.
No, I haven't gone.
Yeah, you've included balls.
You've included balls.
I have come shy of the tip and I'm finished before the hills.
I mean, you'd be happy with that.
That's a two-hander.
You'd be happy with that.
Oh, that is perfect.
Not in this colour.
You wouldn't want to this colour or these spots
might need to be checked out by a doctor.
And if you had that weird kind of like knob on the end,
yeah, yeah, it's a tapered little nib at the end.
Getting that burnt off at the doctor.
Ah, little nib.
What do you know who is, um, get a burnt off air like a wart.
Oh.
Like some sort of, yeah, black nib wart on the tip of you.
Anyway, do you know who is feeling the impact of shrinkflation
as bakers, like, people, because a lot of recipes won't say, say you're making a bicky base,
say you're making a cheesecake and we're making a bickie base.
Like the Shannon's famous Biscoth lolly cake.
Yes, okay.
So usually in a recipe like that, it'll say one packet of digestive biscuits or one packet of
da-da-da-da, but now we're not taking into account the fact that a packet of those bickies
are all so much smaller.
We're getting less.
Even like chocolate chip cookies, a block of chocolate.
It's not a block anymore.
It's not a block anymore.
It's almost like a block and a half.
Shannon, you make quite famously the Biscoff lolly cake.
I was thinking this, the explorer lollies I use.
I actually noticed last time that the bag was a lot smaller.
And I was like, we're getting less lolly per cake.
So now what are you got to buy a bag and a half?
Well, I don't know, because I always make a double batch for you guys because you...
We're pigs.
We're pigs.
Again, we'll be dealing with that more after seven in the House of Study Report.
I always buy two bags
But would I need to buy three now?
I know
But this is the thing
Like the recipes
Because also recipes
We always refer to old recipes
Recipes and books and stuff
That's not getting updated
So when it says one packet of
You know baking's a science
We're just not getting as much
Your main stuff
Like your butter and sugar's always in a specific amount though
Isn't it?
Yeah
Gram or cup
Sweating condensed milk is always a can
I've never seen a recipe be like
how many mills of sweetening sweets.
Yeah, but have they shrink-flated that?
They wouldn't dare.
They wouldn't do it.
Definitely lollies and bickies.
But I did find guys a new lollie cake recipe
that I might try before the end of the year for you.
Tell.
Two towel.
It's got like, you know, like a mixed lolly bag,
like a party mix.
No, I'm sorry.
No, but like it looks really good.
No, I'm sorry.
I'm not having sour squirms in my lollie cake.
I'm sorry.
I'm talking like banana.
Oh, no.
I'm not having, with full respect, Shannon, because you know I love your lollicake.
I'm not having a quarter of a milk bottle in my lolley.
Why are you trying to improve on perfection?
Oh my God, ooh.
Imagine biting down on a mint leaf.
Spearlet leaf.
I'm really dumb with it.
I like the sound of this.
Yeah, well, okay, I'll make it for Carmen or nine.
A fruit boost.
And a jaffer?
Oh, my God, there's a jaffer in your lollie cake.
Yeah.
What are you talking about?
Wait a minute.
Because it feels like, hold on, hold on a minute.
No, if we're putting different jellies in there,
maybe we get some good jellies and put the jellies.
Maybe fruit tubes.
Maybe.
I'm sending it to you now
and you guys are going to bite your word.
That kind of gives me Christmas energy.
No, it's getting too zesty.
Like cherries.
The thing with the Explorer lollies,
they're so smooth and sort of milking that goes with it.
Are you calling them Explorers, eh?
Piece of madness.
I accidentally called them the old word the other day.
My children were on me so quick.
Cancel, cancel.
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It's so silly, silly, silly that a silly little pole
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Today's silly little poll
It's thanks to Mick Cafe
Mick Cafe keep the show on the road
One cup at a time
Speaking of cups
Oh no, I knew that was coming
You could collect your menstrual blood
In a menstrual cup
and then apply it to your face.
Should you be wont to do?
Because that is a new beauty trend
that apparently some people are doing.
So apparently popularised on social media
as all good health advice is.
Yes.
Okay, but there is some loose science behind it.
Advocates for it say the blood
contains stem cells, cytokines and proteins
that could rejuvenate the skin.
There hasn't been any clinical trials done on it.
But a study has said plasma derived
from menstrual fluid could significantly enhance
wound healing?
No, but this is, you know,
you know I had that PRP treatment done on my head
where they, in a clinical environment,
done by a nurse,
got the plasma from my blood
and then injected it back in.
That's, that, they've done lots of studies on that
for, like, joint healing and hair growth
and skin rejuvenation.
Smearing your own straight from the,
yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's, like, bacteria, there's...
Oh, yeah, there's a whole lot to it.
You wouldn't want to put that on your staff infection,
would you?
Oh, God.
I reckon that it would just right.
Really flare it up, Fletch.
Well, we asked for Salernelpo, would you put period blood on your face
for what science asks for menstrual masking if it was proven to make you hotter?
89% of people said, no, thank you.
No, thank you.
No, thank you.
But that still does leave 11% so yeah, why not?
Give it a go.
Yeah, why not?
I guess if you're a Minger, you'll try to.
You'll do anything.
Yeah.
We'll never know.
As a former Mingat, can tell you.
As a child minger
It's a child minger.
You blossom, didn't you?
I actually was a really cute child.
I had a very awkward teenage situation.
Yeah, yeah. And then
bounce back to the beautiful Zaddy you said before you.
I put a grey in that bed.
That's what my daughter said to me that day.
But a grey in that bed.
You want me to pull that out.
There is, dude, look.
Yeah, oh my God, look at that.
Yeah, it's hot.
It's hot. It's hot.
We love it.
It's so, baby.
Fran says, if it's my own, then sure thing.
It's free.
No.
Try that.
No.
Jamie said,
hell no,
not with what I go through.
Yeah,
not with what I go through.
Sounds horrible.
Maybe a heavy,
painful.
Well then you've got so on your hands.
Georgia said that actually comes out of your body for a reason.
And is that sort of Shakespearean charm
to George's response there that wins her today's Maccafe voucher?
Yes, a $50 Maccafe voucher for you, Georgia.
Congratulations.
We'll be in touch.
The reason is to shed your usual lining.
not to make your wrinkles go away.
But tufa, that sounds like a tufer.
You know that you've put it that way,
you've got a tufer in your hands.
Calcese, this is giving sex.
Life season one.
Yeah, if you haven't listened,
which is insane,
there is a woman who offers up hers
for a sort of a ceremonial smearing on the forehead.
Like a Simba?
Like, just like Simba.
Wild, that was a wild season.
Dana said the majority voting no thanks,
but okay with putting their tongue on somebody else's bum hole.
What?
I didn't pre-read it.
I didn't pre-read it.
I didn't pre-read it.
I just started speaking in the words.
2025.
That's why I love that meme.
It's like you sipping from your friend's water bottle and it's like,
oh, and then you down there doing that.
Dana actually, God damn, that's good stuff.
We should have given Dana the voucher.
I know.
Well, it's too late now.
It's too late now.
So she says putting your tongue on.
John's bum, acceptable.
Period blood.
Oh, God.
No, yucky, yucky.
Grow up.
Dana, just swinging for the answers.
Yeah, it's 2025, we're living.
Guys, when they see this,
this is from John, guys when they see this poll,
homobacking into hedge.g.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good.
Like, you just wrote it, and I knew exactly what he meant.
Ash said, I don't even want my period blood coming out of my vagina.
What how would I want it then to be back on my face?
Yeah, well put, yeah.
I have absolutely no desire to know anything about this.
What is wrong with moisturiser?
Yeah, great cool.
A bit of oil of Olai.
Now they said, Jesus Christ, I'm concerned about the future of this is what the kids are in due these days.
Some fantastic responses.
Pipsis, this made me try to reach just reading about it.
Leave me to be ugly in peace.
God, we've got funny listeners.
We do.
It's already coming out of my vagina on occasion,
smearing itself between my thighs.
That is some of the softest skin I had.
Oh, right, okay.
Maybe, you know, need to get it on my face as well.
But it's also, it never sees the sun, does it?
That's probably why.
That's terribly why.
And he ever said, tired and exercise is hard and makes me feel bad.
I'll try anything to be hot at this stage.
You're funny.
Very funny listeners.
Good from you.
Very funny listeners.
It's stand-up comedian.
Very funny listeners.
Well, for silly little poll, we said,
if it was proven to be true
that putting period blood in your face
would make you hotter, would you do it?
89% said, no way.
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Play ZM's Flesh, Forne and Haley.
Well, when was it?
The National Party used...
It was an election ad, right?
It was John Key...
Era.
Dude, it was 2014.
What?
A! I thought it was 2017.
So, the National Party was initially ordered to pay $600,000 in damages for copyright infringement.
It was reduced at $225,000 after they appealed.
But that was when Eminem's music publisher, 8 Mile Style, sued them for a song that sounded almost exactly like lose yourself.
I remember it.
I had people, like, people in, like, dragon boats or something, you know, like.
Yeah, they were rowing.
Yeah, they were rolling.
And, like, do you think he converted that from New Zealand?
dollars to US he's like oh that wasn't worth it
oh yeah the lawyers would have
like the lawyers would have been that alone right
yeah because I remember that dragged on that case right
yep but maybe he's so rich he doesn't care
it's a matter of principle for him
oh my god of course well
he has set his sights now on an
Aussie swimwear company
because Eminem has called out a brand
a swimwear brand with a punny
name swimshady
That's good
Okay
Isn't that a great name
Isn't that a great name for a swimmer brand?
What a, look a, what a swim shady?
What does their swimmer look like?
Well, look at this photo
That's quite hot
Isn't it?
She's sitting in the shade, isn't it?
That is well, I mean, yeah, it's an attractive woman and talls.
I mean, you can go to the website, it's just
Ding, ding, ding, he's worked out heterosexual men.
Yeah, bikinis,
tiny little triangle cloths.
So, apparently, yeah, he has,
according to documents filed with the US patent and trademark office.
These have been attained by TMZ,
so they've seen this and broken the story.
Eminem wants to protect the name of his rap alter ego
and avoid brand confusion.
And the filing alleges that the rapper would suffer damage and injury
if Swim Shady is allowed to keep its name.
No, do you know what, Swim Shady does do some togs,
but the main thing they do is the stick that you stick in the ground
and it clears out like a say.
So it is a shade.
Yeah, yeah.
It's a swim shade.
It's a perfect name and I almost want them to have it.
Yeah.
It does sound like you're saying.
It's a very clever design.
I'd just say to them, tell you what,
pop a couple of those in the post and you can keep the note.
So they say there's not enough distinction between the two brands.
But like swim shades like...
Well, I don't see Eminem casting a shadow over a hot woman and bikinis at the beach.
And then don't, if you trademark something,
Don't you have to say what category it is?
Yes.
Like you've got to say if you're a burgy company, you're Burt.
But then you couldn't like call you a brand of Swimshades McDonald's, could you?
No.
Because they call it McDonald's Swimshades.
You couldn't use the Golden Archers.
No.
But I don't know.
It's all obviously going to take lawyers a lot of money to figure this out.
Now I just want to hear a full M&M rap but with a swight speech impediment
because wicker, wicker, wicker, swim shady is quite funny.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, it's a glide, isn't it?
Well, you better woo's yourself in the mirror.
What you want is a sort of a child to nail a fool?
Yeah, to do it with a...
Someone messaged in, I named my goldfish swim shady.
Now, that's funny.
Well, I'd keep that, yeah, but I'd keep that under wraps.
I'd keep that, yeah, I wouldn't be telling anybody about that.
Oh, you think Eminem would sue?
For the goldfish, yeah.
He wanted to go for custody.
Yeah.
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From the unmoderated comment section, this is the top six.
Hi, I've decided today's top six is going to be number one is going to be the best text that comes in over the initial five.
I like when you do this.
Because I've used a lot of my own personal experience with how my mum is on Christmas.
Okay.
For the five that I have written.
But I feel like everybody's got a different mum, so someone will have a hot take.
So the top six today.
mom's a quiet quit in Christmas.
A growing number of women
are joining a movement that sees them officially hang up their hats
for the huge task that falls on them every year
and that's just sort of like being the director of Christmas.
But a lot of them love it and won't relinquish that role.
Yes, totally.
Like what happens with Patsy at Christmas?
My mum's a very, very good host
but she doesn't have joy on the day.
Like she's working all day.
Yeah, it's very stressful.
but then she doesn't want people on the way, get out of the kitchen.
Yeah.
Yeah, totally.
I know it's a bit of a catch, 22.
And stop eating the stuffing.
That noise.
Oh, I've got to resend you my stuffing recipe, Hans.
Yes, you do.
Yes, you do.
Yes, please, yes, please.
I'll get that over right away.
So, mum's a quiet quitting Christmas.
So why today's top six is dealing with that,
and it is the top six things that won't be happening this Christmas
because mum's quiet quitting.
So, text in 9-6.
Yeah.
Your suggestion for number one.
Yeah.
Number six on the.
the list of the top six things that won't be happening this Christmas because
mum's quiet quitting.
No one's going to be handing around a bowl of scorched almonds at 10.30 in the morning
making sure everyone just takes a couple.
No, she'll just be on the couch.
Mom, we're in the scorched almonds.
Get them yourself.
I don't buy them this year.
Oh, no, mum, it's Christmas Day.
And you didn't, oh my God.
If you wanted them, you could have gone to the shop yourself.
No, no, that's unfair.
That's, don't, no.
Surely mum's going to do all the shopping before, though.
Mum's going to do the shopping and quiet quit on Christmas.
Oh, so my Christmas.
Yeah, okay.
my Christmas work starts days before
yours, does it? Yeah. Mom, oh my
God, I can't believe you didn't get scorched diamonds. There must be scorched
Humbens somewhere in this house. Go walk down to the dairy.
The dairy's not open, it's Christmas.
No, the dairies are open on Christmas.
Maybe the servo could thumb them through that little
night page. Maybe the server
could thumb them through.
She's, that's really good. I tell you what,
that's put a chill up my spine. Yeah, better
get some scorched almonds today. Am I actually get some scorchies on the
God? No, no, because I'll eat them all.
They're not going to see.
How old? What are we? We're 30...
34 days away from Christmas.
You're telling me that a box of scorched almonds
are going to survive in my house? No, they won't.
Good Lord. It'll be consoling the bottle of Jameson's
and the recycling bin. He goes through us, quit.
God, they're good, though. I had some last night.
They always put them in the seven days rider.
They rule, man. Scorce diamonds.
Just let's hear it for scorched almonds.
Okay, back to it.
Number five on the list of the top six things.
By the way, you two can feel free to peruse the text machine
for any favorites you've got coming in.
on it. Okay, thank you. Number
five on the list of the top six things that won't be
happening this Christmas because mum's quite quitting.
There'll be nobody saying, hey, save that
that wrapping paper. That's nice wrapping paper. We can use it again.
If you find that, don't rip it
it. Don't rip it. Take the tape off. That's
that foil paper that people pay a fortune for.
We can reuse that next Christmas. Don't go crazy
on that one. Number four on the list
of the top six things that won't be happening this Christmas
because mum's quiet quitting.
No one will be buying nine dollar bottles of fizzy sweet
wine that's quote, just as good as the French
stuff, end quote.
Sweet, though, isn't it?
Real sweet.
I'm looking at you.
Pink Chandon, R-I-P.
I'm looking at you.
Passion pop.
Asty Riccadonna, Spumante, R-I-P.
Oh, Rickadola.
What's that stuff my mum really liked?
Bernardino.
Aquila?
Oh, yeah, Queela, right, yeah.
It was sweet, man.
It was like alcoholic, lemonade.
Straight from France.
Straight from France.
The name Aquila, do it.
It's French for delicious water.
Yeah.
Number three on the list of the top six things that won't be happening in this Christmas
because mum's quiet quitting.
No one telling you.
you where to sit at the Christmas lunch table
because for some reason that's a thing, it's very
political. Yeah, it is. You sit there.
Well, his dad normally sits there.
Doesn't he? And then mum normally sits
there. Does anybody else's mum be the hero
and sit on the uncomfortable seat?
Mom's like, I'll just sit on this one then.
And she'll drag in some white
plastic chair from the deck.
Yeah, it's broken on that. She's like, no, no.
It's fine.
Wow. The old woman with the bad hits.
No, it's fine. It's fine.
I'll sit on this. It's fine.
This is sore.
Out of two on the list of the top six things
that won't be happening this Christmas
because mum's quiet quitting.
Well, now that someone's not cooking all day,
they're going to have more time to tell you
what they think of the current political climate.
And I'm imagining because they're not cooking
they're going to be able to concentrate on drinking a bit more.
Yeah.
And so they were drinking and telling you what they think of,
I don't know, depending on what sort of the spectrum they fall on,
I guess, the political spectrum
exactly what they're going to be telling you.
And number one, from listeners.
Can I make my vote?
Yes, executive decision.
You're in charge this is the executive.
You just choose, yeah.
Okay, you introduce it.
Yep.
And the number one on the list today of the top six things
that won't be happening this Christmas because mom's quiet quitting?
Mum won't have any presents because she didn't buy them for herself on your behalf.
That's really good.
And dad's just sitting there looking at presents and he's looking at mum and mum's like, I don't know what's in them.
And dad's like, I've got no any of it.
Yeah, she bought them.
Your mother bought them.
No, she's like, no, I didn't.
And he's like, who bought them?
Mystery.
That is today's top six
The ZRAM Podcast Network
The internet is absolutely loving this
Actually do you know who's going to love this Shannon
Because it's a little bit of a conspiracy theory
A little bit of sort of
You know the internet's sort of coming together
To work something out
Have a listen to this
This is a UK rapper
Called SD Kid
I'm the same trends
I'm the same kid with the same friends
Posted open the same ends
Riding around and I've got BVS
you got fake jams
So it's like your classic, like all my, you know, like Scowals,
Accent, UK rap, da-da-da-da-da.
His name's SD Kid, terrible rap name.
You know what I mean?
Like, we could have, we could have brainstormed that a little harder, I reckon.
Been a bit more exciting.
But SD Kid has been dropping music online, doesn't share his face at all, right?
Completely anonymous, often in a balaclava, like just some eyes.
and eyebrows and that's it or face
completely. Wait, do people think
it's another AI artist?
No. Because that's been a thing lately.
Yeah, the AI artist, the AI
actors. No. People now
on TikTok and on the internet are
completely convinced, this is
Timothy Shalalala Lala Lameh.
Timothy
Telemeny. Really?
Are you buying into this
conspiracy, Shannon? Who also believes
that Katie Perry is John Bonnet Ramsey?
And we didn't go to the moon? And... I don't
say that, I just say I have questions.
I'm just asking questions.
Yeah. We're entitled to ask.
No, I can definitely see this.
When you look up the close-up photos, he
shows his eyes and definitely
has the Timitae vibes.
Timotashalaba. As we know,
Timitay did a look-alike competition
and a lot of people do look like him.
Yes. But he is musical.
He was Willie Wonka, you know, so it's not
too far-fetched. So here's some
things that people are discussing
as Peroof.
And you can't see it, listener, but I'm doing air quotes, which I think we need to bring back more.
I think we used to do them a lot more than we do now, and I'm bringing them back.
Proof.
They have the exact same face and fashion sense.
As you mentioned, Shannon, if you look up close, it is literally the exact same eyebrow shape and arch, same eye color, same skin color.
Like, it's very much a real look-alike, clearly the same pale green eyes.
the fashion sense is exactly the same.
Timothy Shalamay's got quite odd fashion sense, I'd say.
Okay.
The Kardashians haven't quite hooked in.
Are they still?
I don't know.
Are they still together?
Yes.
They're plagued by rumours.
I love it.
It makes absolutely no sense.
He wasn't at her mum's birthday, but he's a busy guy.
He's a busy guy.
One of my favourite, I read an article recently about like the most unlikely couples in Hollywood at the moment.
And they are in it.
And I love it.
Just like, it just makes no sense.
whatsoever.
Timothy randomly went to a fake
mink show in London.
It was like a, you know, a big rapper
who's got very similar music
to this SD kid
air quotes again.
And everyone was like, why is he suddenly
so invested in this music?
It's because he...
Is making it himself.
Is making it himself.
But why would he put on a British accent?
And why would he...
Is this a British accent?
bit of a Joaquin Phoenix
you know role prepping
thing maybe
oh right okay like he's
yeah what do they call that method
acting yeah he could be like
creating a character but he's really like
doing it out in the real world right
well no one would take him seriously if he's just like
guys my new rap album's out
next week I'm Timothy
Salome everyone's like what
I'm Timothy Shalame
play that fucking music Y boy
yeah yeah
sees that skinny little
Limmy guy.
Right.
But has he been asked about this?
Or has...
No word.
No word.
He has not spoken a word on it.
Which in itself is suspicious.
It's proof.
It's proof.
It's proof.
Can you wrap your ears around Timothy Shalalame's Esty Kid?
Rap album soon.
The ZAM's Hocast Network.
Play ZM's Flesh, Forne and Haley.
The annual health survey is out.
It surveys quite a few people.
So it's like a report card for all of us on our health.
Yeah, as New Zealand on a whole.
Okay.
9,000 adults, that's 15 and over, and 2,800 children who's surveyed.
Do you want a brief recount of statistics?
I thought you were going to say, do you want me to be honest?
Okay, I don't be honest.
Despite getting fatter, vaping more, eating fewer veggies and feeling more stressed,
New Zealanders say they're still pretty happy.
Wow, what a sentence.
Yeah.
God, nothing has landed so deeply for me.
Than that sentence.
I mean, you don't vape, do you?
I don't vape, no.
No, she's back on SIGs every now and then.
Instead, party darts.
The old analogue vapes for a party darts.
I don't encourage it.
2024, 2025 New Zealand Health Survey says life satisfaction and self-rated health are high, but underneath Harrison.
What is described as gnarly trends.
Okay, gnarly trends.
Has it as drinking and spiking amongst young people again.
Reverasing the years of decline.
Because for a long time they've been saying that like Gen Zs aren't drinking as much.
Which we've joked about before, but thank God I mean like as a culture, that's great.
Obesity is rising overall except for amongst kids and the people aged 15 to 24 where obesity is actually declining.
Oh.
Yeah, I'm getting squishier.
But also your metabolism slows down, doesn't it?
We'll see. We'll see you 15 to 24 year.
I'll see.
Good luck.
Daily vaping continues to creep up, especially in teens.
It blows my mind the amount that Kiwis vape.
Like, when you go overseas, I mean, you go to Europe, everyone's smoking still.
But like, I feel like we've just replaced one vice with another, and they're just as bad for you.
But it's not even replacing.
People who never smoked a baby.
I just don't understand that.
Yeah.
It was supposed to be the old.
alternative, the better, quote, unquote, alternative to smoking.
Why would you start?
Psychological distress has doubled since 2019, 2020.
Probably wide people.
You want to chime in on that form?
Probably white people are basically.
Well, I was just going to say, I'm doing mine and Fletcher's because his psychological
distress is actually decreased since 2019.
Yeah, so I've actually picked up yours.
Thank you for that.
And a little bit.
I'm carrying it.
It's okay.
I'm seeing a GP is harder due to cost and waiting times.
And if you've tried to book just a general non-emergency.
And plus, like, we've got a friend who's a doctor
And he works one day away
I think he's up to Europe for like eight years this year
Yeah, he did, yeah
Smoking, however
God, I hope he's still asleep
Oh, he's a doctor on Friday, of course he's still asleep
He was supposed to be at work 20 minutes ago
That's why they're always late even though
Love you, Dr Shawnee, love you
He's not indifferent about you in the moment
We respect the doctors
Um, drug levels
Drug use levels look unchanged on paper
but waste water says same amount of users, more drugs.
Wow, okay.
Isn't that interesting?
They can tell.
I would love to get in, not get into the waste water,
but how they can do a sample and they're like, this is what we can tell you.
It's nuts.
Like I feel like COVID kind of made that whole wastewater testing thing, like a thing
and people knew about it, common knowledge.
But they've been doing it a long time.
Yeah, they test the water and they can see like what regions use the most meth
and drugs.
It's wild.
And they're like, Northland?
Best stats, so these are some important stats, life satisfaction in general health.
86.6% of adults say their health is good, very good or excellent.
But you can't see your clogged arteries or what cancer's running inside you, can you?
Didn't you just say we're all fat?
Yeah, we're all fat.
I mean, yeah.
83% report high or very high life satisfaction.
That's pretty good.
And 83% report high or very high family well-being.
That's all slightly up from last year
Yeah
14% of adults report
High or very high psychological distress
Yeah
That's doubled
So that went from 7.4 to 14%
In over the last five years
It's been half though the last five years
Hasn't it?
Yeah it has for everyone
Yeah
Um
Hazard is sorry
That's just a nervous tick
I've developed over the last five years
Um Hazardous drinking
So
It's gone up
So 16% of all adults
are hazardous drinkers.
That's down from 21%.
Or we just call them Haley, don't we?
What?
Haley is drinking.
Yeah, you're saying my name odd.
Hazardate, Haley.
Hazard Haley.
Fizzing to 17-year-olds who shouldn't be drinking.
They're up to 16%.
Oh, wow.
And 18 to 24s, you know, the ones that were all like,
oh, they don't like to drink anymore.
They're back, baby.
They're 34% of them are hazardous drinkers.
Yeah, because they've realized that life's hard.
And sometimes after work, you would need espresso martini.
You do sometimes.
12% of adults vape daily.
That's bad.
12% of adults vape daily.
13.5% of teenagers vape daily.
That's crazy, isn't I?
Only 6.8% of adults eat the recommended amount of vegetables.
Are you kidding me?
Only 7% of adults are hitting the 5 plus a day mark?
And would that be including what's in your burger or your subway?
That doesn't technically count as a day.
I think you are ticking that
because you can remember you're being asked
this by a person and you're like,
how many vegetables are you?
You're like, slice of tomato count?
Onions, man, that's a veggie.
That is, but I mean,
it is so expensive to my fresh produce.
I mean, unless you're buying seasonal
and it's on special.
It is, it's hard.
1% of adults used anphetamine-type stimulants
in the last year.
Jesus.
Down from 1.3, despite waste water,
showing meth consumption is actually skyrocketing.
So if everybody's telling the truth,
it's not more users.
It just means that people are using more.
Also, I don't think of some,
random person coming to your house of the form
is asking you about your drug use. I don't know
if people are like...
Well, trusting. 2.5% of adults said they used
cocaine in the last year. And that's
up from 2.4% the year before.
Wastewater shows consumption is way up though, so
again, there's some...
A, you're lying, but people are using more. A few little lies
there. Yeah. Wow. What a
fascinating insight. I know. It is really
interesting. So we're a little bit fatter, but
we're happier. We're all... Because all the
cocaine. We're fat and high.
It's time for a little bit of a movie roundup.
Movie news.
First of all, the Hunger Games Sunrise on the Reaping
has its official teaser trailer out four hours ago
and it's had 400,000 views.
And that's just on YouTube.
This is the story of Haymich,
who was played by Woody Harrelson in the original movies,
the Hunger Games.
So this is the story of his Hunger Games.
So close to a real name, Haymitch.
All of the names in the Hunger Games
are so close to a real name.
So close.
So, well, the trailer's been four hours.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
And nearly had half a million views.
So this is out, not out till next November, by the way.
So they've got a trailer a year before it's due.
Ah.
To the glorious reaping of District 12.
Twice the number of tributes.
Twice the glory.
It's time for the second quarter quail.
So it's the story of the 50th Hunger Games.
And of course, if you're familiar with the Hunger Games,
every 25 years is a quarter quail,
which is a little bit special.
Like, in the original Hunger Games,
it was the 75th, it was the quarter,
and the people who went back into the Hunger Games
were previous winners.
And this one, they take twice as many.
So four kids from each district.
This is apparent, the book is apparently a harrowing read.
And so I don't think this is going to be like,
fun light-hearted movie either
but yeah
that's Glenn Close by the way
in the trailer completely unrecognisable
she's great
completely unrecognisable
well thank God she's done something of quality
because of that terrible Kim Kardashian
lawyer show she's in
people are like Glenn Hahn
were you just
were you drunk
are you having a laugh
someone the other day was like
have you seen it it's great I was like
I have not heard anyone else say that
I've actually downloaded someone
and might watch her on the plane
I hope it's so bad it's good.
That's what I've heard.
If your expectations are it's going to be so bad, it's good,
then I don't think you're going to be too let down.
Totally.
So in some more moving news,
Frozen 3 and 4, right?
They're signed off to happen.
Right.
And this is a landmark deal.
It's the highest in animation history.
Kristen Bell, Josh Gad, and Adina Menzel,
like the three leads of Frozen.
Anna, Elsa and Olaf.
Yes.
Have each signed a deal worth over $60 million each to do both of them.
What?
So 30, do you remember when Eddie Murphy got paid $10 million to do donkey and Shrek one time?
And he didn't even leave his house to earn the money because he had a recording booth at his own house.
Isn't that insane?
Oh, my God.
Imagine that, not leaving your house and you earn $10 million.
Just go back to bed at the end of it.
Like, I'm done.
Yeah.
I'm doing your undies if you want.
Yeah.
Amazing.
Also, news out this morning, not movie-wise, but TV news or streaming news.
HBO has confirmed that it's renewed both Night of the Seven Kingdoms and House of the Dragons for new seasons.
So Nine of the Seven Kingdoms isn't out yet, but it's about to be, right?
Yes.
That's the next Game of Thrones story.
Yeah, both shows will be out in 2026 and then there'll be alternating releases in 2027, 28.
The guys, they take so long to make those shows, though, eh?
The weights are so...
I didn't even remember what happened in House of the
House of Dragons.
I'd have to re-watch the whole series again.
And you love it.
The quality of those shows is exceptional.
And it is like making little mini movies every day.
But hurry up.
21 minutes away from...
I didn't get to turn about Elizabeth Olsen's movie.
Oh, what do you want to say about that?
Well, stop my song.
Somebody won't talk over, I won't talk over Sabrina.
That's really respectful, actually.
And I knew you were a feminist and it's nice to see it in play.
You are, you're a big Sabrina fan.
So on December 4th it comes out.
It's called Eternad.
got Elizabeth Olson, Miles, Teller,
and that handsome guy that's dating Jewelie Pallum Turner.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And surprise, he plays a war veteran.
He nails a war.
Oh, he nails a war.
So the premise is when you die,
you have to pick where you're going to spend eternity
and who you're going to spend it with.
Her first husband, who she loved dearly, dies in the war.
Years later, she remarries,
and her second husband she's with for 50 years.
Wait, can you choose like a theme park or a...
You can pick one.
Like, I'd go a food court.
You get a bit bored, though.
Like a real nice...
Food Court.
Well, how are you going to eat?
Everything.
I don't know.
I don't know the premise.
Do you eat in the afterlife?
Eating might not be a necessity.
Oh, okay.
So you food court.
The afterlife we've got to be eating
because eating's about joy.
Yeah.
I don't think this movie's so much about
food courts.
The logistics.
It's about does she pick her first ever love,
the husband that died in war?
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Or does she pick the man she spent
the rest of her life with?
Or does she pick both?
Three-sum!
The Zat-N podcast network.
Oh, Fletches is a
terrible. Can you remember the song that it was?
I can't remember, Haley.
Damn. Okay, so we were doing
a spin class as we want to do.
And the instructor, there was
a bad song. God, it was like a tacky
funny song. I think it was like after the
it had finished.
They just play some random warm down music.
Random warm down. Oh, it was a warm down
because I just googled what songs are popular spin class
songs.
No. Wasn't a beat she wake me out?
No, no. No. No. No. No.
No. It's kind of
irrelevant, it sort of doesn't matter.
Well, no, I think if you're about to hang your hat
on what song
starts the story, I think it's very
relevant. Well, we can't remember.
We can't remember. I'll make it up.
She was playing at the end of our
Ricky Martens, she bangs, she bangs.
Oh, they wouldn't do that, but okay.
And what a banger.
And the instructor
somehow just randomly
called out her mate who performed
the solo at the
school talent show.
I just went to pull up, she bangs, she bangs.
But apparently my music streaming services
currently being used at home to listen to the Hamilton sound tray.
Oh my God, this happened to me yesterday.
I was trying to listen to music to warm up
and suddenly this music kept on changing
and it was like on Haley's frame.
And it was my parents listening to music.
Probably dancing because they were on loving.
I reckon they were banging on your couch.
Oh, wow, what kind of music was it?
It was queen.
Anyway.
So, um,
And then we were having a laugh about this,
and then I said to Fletch, oh my God,
my talent show at Middatae Primary,
I performed solo,
because my best friend said,
no, how embarrassing.
Lais la Bonita,
tropical the island breeze.
It's a Madonna song,
but I did the troublous cover.
Because it, you know,
it was the year 2009-99.
We were talking about this this morning,
and that's when Shannon told us who,
and that's why we're like,
oh my God, we have to talk about this,
and ask this morning.
0,800 tiles at M, 96, 96.
What did you perform at the school talent show?
Because Shannon, what did you do?
Mine was at intermediate, so it was like 2012-ish.
Yep.
And I, unfortunately, was...
That's impossible.
2012 was three years ago.
Carry on.
I was on crutches at the time, and I performed.
I would have skipped the talent show.
No, no, no.
We decorated my crutches with tinsel
and performed to Cobra Starship.
Good Girls Gone Bad.
Wait a minute, what did you do, a song and a dance?
Well, no, no, no, we didn't sing, we just danced.
But I was on the crutches and I remember everyone did a bit of fist pump and I had to put the crutch in the air.
Oh, I'm so embarrassed, I'm so embarrassed.
Oh, my God, I love this.
Can we call it tinsel crutch from now on?
Yeah, I mean, if it was high school, that would have been your nickname.
I feel like primary school they weren't that mean yet.
Okay, well, 0,800 dials at him.
We want to take your calls this morning.
Text through 9-696.
We want to know what you performed at your school talent show.
Join us as we die of embarrassment, honestly.
There are some very funny messages coming in.
It's so traumatic reading some of these messages.
It's so good.
Amy, what did you do at your school talent show?
You were 15.
Morning.
Good morning.
Morning.
It's something that definitely wouldn't be allowed nowadays.
Okay.
Well, what did you say?
They were, like, five guys, and they were on the stage,
and they were dancing to, I believe, in miracles.
You sexy things.
Oh, yeah.
They sat down on the chair, and then put the tops off,
and we smothered them with oil, rubbed them up and down.
Wait a minute.
Sorry, sorry.
Sorry, how old?
Like 14 or 15.
Now, you've got an accent.
Did this happen back home?
Yeah.
In England.
In Lincolnshire.
In Lincoln, England.
Okay.
What did this happen?
Well, I'm 39 now.
So 25 years ago.
It's still not long enough ago, really.
That's the millennium.
That's crazy.
I started talking about this.
My head went straight back to that.
I bet it did.
Yeah, I bet it did.
Wow.
That's insane.
Insane.
Amy, thank you so much.
Cassidy, what did you do at the high school
or the school talent show?
Morning.
What I did with my friend
about 10 years old
and we performed a dance to
Weddow Yankovich.
I'm fat.
Oh, fat.
Which was the parody of bad
by Michael Jackson, right?
That's right, yes.
Again, you probably wouldn't do that
these days, would you?
No, yeah, I don't know how
we got away with that, but we also,
not only did we dance for that,
we stuffed pillows up our top
And I'm assuming you weren't actually a sort of a plus-sized human.
No, no.
No, yeah.
Oh, Cassidy, that's funny.
Thank you.
Different times, different times.
I was so worried when that first caller said, oh, you wouldn't get away with it now
and said what she sung because I was like,
the members of that band were people of colour and she doesn't sound like it.
Oh, yeah, I thought they might have been, yeah, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Got a bit of the old boot polish out.
My partner danced to smack that by Eminem and Acon,
unscensored version and all white boys and do rags.
When I was 12, I said, there's so many good texts.
When I was 12, I sung my heart will go on from the Titanic
and my friend played it on the keyboard and we won.
But you still don't know, it wouldn't have been great at 12.
No, it wouldn't have been great.
I mean, it would have been great for a 12-year-old.
Yeah, but not like, yeah.
You're not so lindian.
Early 90s, in fifth form, we did a lip sync to the BGs medley.
A group of girls all dressed up in white flares with facial hair drawn.
on and we dressed at my younger
brother who was third form at the time in a wig
a skirt and big fete boobs and he came
on during more than a woman
more than a woman and
was working it. Everyone was cheering
and clapping and so funny. Everyone kept
asking us who the girl was but
we made a deal with them that we'd never say it was
managed to keep it like a massive school secret
for ages. Okay. So good.
Boys to men in the still of the night and
one sweet day. Those are hard songs.
Yeah they are. We either came first
or second with that.
Oh my God, there's so many
of them.
At seven years old in 2002, I sung
Eternal Flame by Atomic Kid and Acapella.
No, that would not have been good.
Oh, my God, someone did message and saying
they actually did a tap dance to
She Bangs, She Bangs.
Oh, wow.
I don't want to gloat, but I did take home
the trophy.
Really?
Wow. Wow. Okay.
Some other ones.
Shania Twain.
Man, I feel like a woman,
at a primary school talent show.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
I did my old man's a dustman.
Oh, yeah.
You know that?
Old English ditty.
My old man's a dustin.
I performed, six of us performed Barbie Girl.
We choreographed the whole dance.
We were superstars.
I thought it was my calling.
Turns out, if you can't do, teach.
Oh, okay.
So that I became a dance teacher.
Kempi Dex.
Coming in, 9696.0-800 dance.
What did you do at the school talent show?
This is so funny, but wildly inappropriate.
At a Catholic school, a Catholic girl's school, a group of us performed.
Did he say performed?
I did say perform.
Oh, my God, born.
Performed.
I did say performed.
That's been a bugbear of both of us for many years.
I saw it and I was like, I've said that wrong.
That's why I stopped straight afterwards.
We performed OPP by naughty by nature.
Now, I've just informed the girls, the producer girlies who were maybe a bit young to remember
when that song first came out,
but they're familiar with the song,
what exactly OPP stands for?
Now, I can't say it on the radio,
but you can feel free to do that on your own time,
but maybe not on a work plan.
And it was a Catholic...
Oh my God, it's scary that you're playing it.
Well, it's in the system.
It must be a radio edit.
A radio safe version.
Yep.
We changed the lyrics.
I mean, it's a cat, you can't tonight.
This is a hell of a bit.
Oh, it's a catchy song.
That's a hell of a bit.
Using a bit of Jackson 5 sample there.
We, uh, hold on, is this a beer now?
Naughty by nature, changed the lyrics, but at the end,
some girls came on stage in their uniforms of pillows stuffed up their dresses
pretending they were pregnant.
Boy, did we get in trouble.
Again, I'll reiterate.
That was it a Catholic girl's school.
Oh, yeah, it was.
Uh, spice girls lip sang, painted myself in coffee to be scary spice.
Oh, okay.
Oh, I mean, that was just a different time, wasn't it?
I hope it was a different time.
Coffee?
I hope it was a different time.
There's another one. My friends and I did
The Spice Girls at age 12. I was scary Spice.
Mum used a lot of natural glow
to give this very pale white girl
a bit of colour. Rural school life in the 90s.
Luminous spheres, though. Very luminous.
Yeah. A dude got up
at a Catholic school.
I do got up by himself at a Catholic school
and sung the, when I think about you
I touch myself. Oh, I don't want
Anyone else
What is that song called?
I touch myself?
Touch myself?
No.
I touch the divinels.
I touch myself.
Yeah, great.
Okay, let's do that, yeah.
This is great.
This is great.
I love myself.
I want you to love me.
Love it.
And so he's doing this in front of the school.
At a Catholic school, got it.
They eventually cut the music because the whole school was just losing their minds.
I love it.
We'll keep him going.
Someone said pause the song now and play for Friday.
Bash Bash.
Great song.
Absolute banger.
When I was seven years old, my mother convinced me doing the macarena was a talent.
So I did.
The whole effing song by my.
myself in front of the entire school.
Oh, I would die.
Um, aflo. Nope.
I'm not reading them all.
But, oh, that did happen at an affluent school on the North Shore.
I dressed up as Damien the average.
Because it did not go well.
Oh, Damien to kill it.
Damien did not go well.
Friends of mine, dance the kids.
candy shop at like 11. Wow, that's the
appropriate lyrics. That's a sexual
song. Yeah.
I did a dance
to Ice Cube at 10 years old.
You can imagine the dance moves. Not appropriate
for a 10 year old.
Oh, this is just so
fun. I wish I could see. I wish I could watch all of them.
Every text that can't
come in. If it was my weekend, I'd sit down and watch this.
It should be a reality show.
Yes. Some kind of high school.
Some kind of like, you know,
you get to relive it.
Just any school, yeah, talent shows.
You get to relive it.
And the winner gets a million dollars.
Yeah.
But they've got to be bad.
Well, I mean, have I read you one that's really tickled your fancy?
Not really, no.
Oh, my God, in an old girl school, we tied the female deputy principal to a chair in front of the school and dirty dance on it.
No!
What?
We got told off afterwards.
I bet you, Dave, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
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Fletchhorn and Haley
So yes
I was on a flight yesterday
From Auckland to Nelson
I will say jeepers
Speaking of Metallica
The airport
It smelled a bourbon and powerade
You know
It was a real mix
There was a sea of Bogan's
Looking worse for wear
I've never seen so many black t-shirts
In downtown Auckland
In a long time
Yeah it's awesome
As someone that does wear
Black and blue t-shirts
All the time
Of course
Of course
So I'm on my flight
and I bought a little bit late
because I was enjoying
coffee moose in the lounge.
She's relatable.
She's a people of the person.
Yeah, yeah.
A person of the people.
A lady of the people.
A female man.
Yeah, I am a female man.
And so I get on and I've got my large tote
that is sort of a hard,
you guys know the one,
it's sort of like a plastic woven tote.
And those overhead on those planes
that go Auckland to Nelson,
They're slim and long.
Like if you've got a wide bag, you're a bit screwed.
You're kind of screwed.
And then the footroom is much smaller as well.
So when you have to put it under it, it's just a god or four flight.
So I found a gap just above where I was sitting.
And I kind of thumbed it in, you know, really pushed it in
and kind of moved a few things of other people's around.
I wasn't in the move for us.
I was tired.
Yep.
So get on the flight hot, I'll say, to the point where the flight attendant had to address it.
And then we land and we're disembarking and I get my bag and I pull it out and that's when I notice what I've done by thumbing in this bag.
And here comes the apology.
I am sorry to whoever thought that they would go to the Dunkin' Donuts at the airport and get themselves a nice family pack of Donuts.
to bring to Nelson
because...
Haley, Haley.
Haley!
You know the South Islanders
love their donuts.
I know.
And what a treat
they were looking forward to.
I don't think it's impossible
to get on a flight
leaving Auckland
that goes direct to the South Island
without someone having a big thing
of donuts on it.
They love the donuts.
Do they not?
Why don't these donut stores
open stores in Nelson
in the South Island?
I know.
Well, I know, but they would have been
so excited to enjoy
these perfect, puffy donuts.
and I had smashed them to smithereens.
I mean, this box was distorted beyond recognition.
Did the person see?
I didn't stop.
I didn't stop to check.
What I did was, okay, okay.
What I did was I pulled out my tote,
clocked it and immediately took zero ownership
and evacuated the plane.
How smashed?
The box was at the back against the wall, say.
and it had sort of
Constantinid up
Oh, could you see
I imagine it was more of a on top smashing
You've actually just sort of
Dramed it. Okay, right
No, I think an on top smashing
would have kind of been all right
No, I'd smashed it sort of against the wall
Right, could you see any...
And the box had distorted
Jam or icing or cream
that had come out the side?
There was spillage.
Oh, there was a sugary...
Well, you've destroyed it.
Haley!
But that's kind of...
on them, you don't just chunk
them up in the overhead, sit down and
expect. You hold on to them on your lap
until everybody's on there, then you find
IEA. Thank you. Yeah, that's not
your fault. Smaller items, they say
police place your larger items in the
overhead compartment above you
and place your smaller items
under the seat below.
So, really,
I feel like the flight attendant would have a little space for
dog, they're pretty sick of it because everyone that gets on the plane.
Because everyone goes from South Island takes donuts.
It takes doughnut.
Maybe there's a donut holder on the New Zealand flights.
A little sort of stack a shelf.
Yeah. Okay, but there will be someone listening maybe, possibly out there from Nelson,
who's listening now that came home from Auckland with a smash box of donuts.
Jesus Christ.
Hello, Haley, you are a piece of shit.
Now, I don't know if you are the donut owner.
I feel if we track down this person, the least we can do is get them some donuts.
Oh, please text in 96696 if you know of this with a receiver.
Well, I'm going to need the boarding pass.
No, I'm going to need the ticket.
If you've got the boarding pass from Haley's flight.
Proof of the flight.
The boarding pass and a photo of the donut damage because I think it was so damaged.
It's the kind of thing you would take a photo off to put on Instagram and be like, can you believe it?
Can you believe that bitch from TV did this?
I saw that bitch from TV and she smashed my donuts.
I will reimburse if you can prove it.
But, yeah, those would have been an absolute, an absolute, you know, smash, smash situation.
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Fact of the day, day, day, day, day, day.
A do-dood-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do do-do do-do do-do do-do do-do.
Fact of the day, a day theme this week has been iconic characters with shockingly small screen time.
I've really enjoyed it, Vaughn.
This has been one of your top, your bests.
Unlike calendar week.
Why do we bring that up?
We're going to let calendar week go.
I feel like it was so appalling.
I think we've got another year on it.
It wasn't like, it was very interesting.
It was fascinating.
People stop me in the streets.
And they say, Fletch.
And I say, no, Vaughn.
And they're like, oh, right.
I love the calendar week.
I get stopped all the time.
And they're like, Vaughn.
I'm like, no, it's Fledge.
And then they say, well, I just, it was a left.
down calendar week.
Oh, really?
And I'm like,
I know.
So you think they're pandering to me?
I think they might be.
I'm being pandered to.
I think so.
I think they know it's been a tough year
and they just want to make sure
that you're all right
and tell you the calendar week
wasn't that bad.
I've known it's a tough year
because I've been ticking the days off
on a calendar, as I want to do.
So movies where the main character
barely shows up has shocking
a little screen time throughout the week.
And today I just want to finish
with a little bit of a few.
Okay.
A few.
Hannibal Lecter and
Silence of the Lambs.
Dr. Hannibal Lecter, the iconic,
yeah.
Awfully scary Anthony Hopkins role.
What is it?
You'll live it with a nice
Fava beans and a Chiante.
Yeah.
He wasn't in that much, was he?
No.
The movie's 118 minutes,
and he was in for less than 16 of those minutes.
Wow.
Powerful performance, though?
Such a powerful performance.
His performance won best actor at the Academy Awards,
and he was only on screen for 13% of the movie.
Wow.
And it's still, to this day, remains the shortest winning screen time.
Oh, okay, so they've actually worked that out.
Yeah, okay, amazing.
He won an Academy Award for his time on screen.
You're that good.
You only need that many minutes to win an Oscar.
Yeah.
Unreal.
They said he wanted his appearance to appear as surgical.
Like, when he was on screen, it was so specifically to be there for a purpose.
Yep.
And he said, yeah, just the intensity and how calm and quiet and terrifying he was
makes everybody feel like he was on screen
for a lot longer than he was.
But it was only 13%.
The next is the Joker from the Dark Night, 2008.
Heath Ledger.
I thought he was on...
When this one really surprised me
because I was like,
he was on screen for almost the entire movie.
He was incredible...
That was an incredible...
That is a 152 minute movie.
Yep.
And he is only on screen for 20 minutes.
He's on screen for 16% of that movie.
But again, it's the presence and the presence of him...
Yeah.
Yeah, wow.
His presence and his chaos intrudes throughout the entire movie.
Christopher Nolan said he did that on purpose.
That was a thought too.
He arrives like a hurricane, suddenly disappears, returns unpredictably.
And he said, why it worked was every appearance is a set piece.
The pencil trick, when he came up with the trick, and then bang, the pencil goes on.
The party invasion, the hospital explosion, the interrogation room scene with Batman.
He said he had no backstory.
You just kind of like created him one as the viewer.
Yeah.
just came in with full-blown impact
and he won Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor
that he posthumously
even with limited screen time
and the final one I want to finish on
because this scared me when I was a kid
is the wizard from the Wizard of Oz
Oh yeah
102 minutes
He's right at the end didn't he?
Yeah he's right at the end for no more than six minutes
so less than 6% of the entire film
A bit like Santa in the Santa Parade
He's only in my parade
For like 30 seconds
and then he rolls past.
The parade's named after him,
much like the Wizard of Oz
is named after the Wizard of Oz.
I know.
And I thought for everyone going
and seeing Wicked Part 2.
Yeah.
And the rest of the parade,
it's just things, isn't it?
Old trailers.
Yeah.
Kind of like the local blogger
and dressed up as Elsa.
Yeah.
You know, if they check that with Disney
or they just rocking around?
I don't know if they've checked that
with the big ones.
Leisure marching team.
Yeah.
But so, yeah, Wizard of Oz
was only in 6% of the movie
that bared his name.
So today's fact of the day
is the Wizard of Oz,
the Joker from Batman and Hannibal Lecter of Science,
the lands are actually on screen, not much at all.
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day, day.
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and Haley.
The definition of kissing
is non-aggressive
mouth-to-mouth contact
without food transfer.
Sometimes it's nice
to get a bit aggressive.
Wait, either you're going to say
and get a bit of a steak.
Yeah, nothing rules more than
kissing someone and being like,
I didn't eat chicken today.
Yeah, or a partial bit of corn.
Yes, you share a little waggoo
between friends.
What's a bit of waggoo between friends?
Why is that the scientific definition of kissing?
So, there has been a study from Oxford University
in the Florida Institute of Technology
who put their heads.
together and asked the question, when did kissing start?
And it didn't start with humans at all.
It's been around with our primate ancestors
between 17 and 21 million years.
Do you know what? Like, when I was at the weekend,
just my friends and I spent like half an hour
watching the chimpanzees at Wellington Zoo,
it's so fascinating because you're like,
how can you deny evolution looking at them?
You look them in the eyes, eh?
Yeah. And just the way they, you know, they move and...
And they scratch their butts and sniff it.
Like, we do that.
It's like a weird thing.
We're just a bit more subtle about it.
Yeah.
Like quite often, Vaughn will lie in his back and I'll just pick knits off him.
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate that.
Totally.
Sometimes if one annoys me, I just hurl my shit at him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's not annoying it.
Wait, so they traced it back to when?
A common primate ancestor.
Right.
This sentence cracked me out.
After running millions of simulations that included chimps, bonobos,
gorillas, orangutans, and humans,
we all kissed because we inherited the behavior from a shared ancestor.
millions of simulations.
Oh, yeah.
I'll watch, guys, I'm going to hit you to the lab
and watch ten more monkey-smooching videos.
Monkeys making it out.
So it was the study that defined the definition of kissing
as non-aggressive mouth-to-mouth contact
without food transfer.
Sexy.
This includes sexy kissing and platonic,
like family affection, like Haley's family kisses.
Who kiss on the mouth?
Yeah.
There's no food transfer there, though, is it?
My mum stopped that year years ago doing,
she used to baby bird baby.
Yeah.
and just chew it all up for me.
So nice as cat, see.
Soft, soft teeth as a kid.
Scientists are still debating
but the leading ideas from the study are
that kissing evolved and stuck around
because it's great for mate assessment,
tasting pheromones and detecting health and compatibility.
Imagine they didn't have toothbrushes either.
Imagine the ginger vitus.
Well, we've got toothbrushes and some people still...
You're not wrong.
Foreplay, boosts arousal,
increases chance of reproduction.
Novel idea.
Yep.
This foreplay.
And social bonding, it strengthens relationships in complex social games.
Do monkeys do foreplay?
Haley, we're moving on.
And we want to ask right now, on 0800,000M, 9-696, with kissing being 20 million years old.
And happy birthday.
And happy birthday.
If Nana Kissing was still with us, this would be her 20 millionth birthday.
Yeah.
Happy heavenly birthday.
Nana kissing.
We thought we'd ask this morning
And we've done this before a long time ago
And it was so funny
We want to know this morning
Like what was your worst kiss with someone
Yeah
How would you describe it?
Did you lose a tooth or did you get your lip bit?
My first patch
Like with tongue
Was with a guy called men's
And he had a tongue ring
And I'll never forget the sound of it rattling
On the back of my teeth
Oh yeah
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
Menz
M-N-Z
Wow
Right
Did he get a parental sort of introduction or was this sort of like an on-the-slai?
No, I was like a teenager.
Yeah, I know.
No, no, no, no.
And then when you got a really bad facial rash from Pash rash?
No, no, that was the second one who had a small goatee.
Ah.
Yeah.
If you had to choose now, which would you choose?
I'll go to a small-go-tee over men's tongue ring.
You go for a small-go-teeat.
Interesting.
On Maria's leather-rette couch.
Leather-rette.
I love that.
Okay, 0800 dials at M. Text in as well, 9-696.
What is your worst kiss?
According to a study, kissing is 20 million years old
and goes back before human time.
Yeah, and apparently humans would have kissed Neanderthals
because they've tested like the mouth microbiob ions,
and they shared a thing.
So imagine kissing a neanderthal.
Yeah, but love knows no boundaries, Vaughn.
Actually, yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Love is love you.
Stop being...
Stop being Nathanthalist.
You know I'm a huge Nathanifil of this.
I know you are.
I know.
So we're asking on the back of this
with kissing being 20 million years old.
What is the worst kiss
you have ever had?
Michaela, how bad was it?
Oh, good morning.
Good morning.
It was terrible.
My first kiss was with a man
and it's really just confirmed to me
that I am a lesbian.
Yeah.
Was it the straw that broke the camel's...
Yeah, was it the straw that broke the camel's back
for team men, or you were already on the other team?
I mean, I was already on the other team, but, you know...
Yeah.
Good to get confirmation of these things.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, well...
And now...
And no woman has ever kissed as bad as that first man.
No, woman are great kisses.
Highly recommend.
Highly recommend.
Well, Vaughn, you've always been into it, haven't you?
I have been.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is why I think lesbians and I were on the same.
Same page.
You're on the same.
We like heaps of the same stuff.
Michaela, thank you.
So many messages in.
My first patch was a combination of Haley's first two pashes.
He had both a terrible goatee and a tongue piercing.
And he wiggled his tongue in rhythm to the song that was playing at the time,
which was Marilyn Manson's beautiful people.
This one.
Tong.
Tong.
Maybe in his...
In his defense, maybe in his defense he'd read that in one of his sister's magazines, you know?
Yeah, for sure that's in girlfriend magazine, you know?
Yeah.
I didn't know that was about kissing, though.
Yeah, neither.
It was tongue-related, but I thought it might have been...
A kissing of a kind.
It is a type of kissing, yeah.
Yeah.
A guy I kissed was like a bucket of saliva with a lizard tongue.
That's how you want to be described.
Kind of just like poking in and out real fast.
Yeah, pokey.
Worst Kiss is my first actual boyfriend in college.
He was nicknamed Horse Mouth.
Enough said.
I'd like to know what's Horse Mouth up to now.
Big Mouth.
Well, you know what they say.
Never look a gift horse in the mouth.
No, big mouth.
Big mouth guy.
Big mouth.
He has to get two of them and melt them together.
Yeah.
Worst Kiss was with this guy from Tiao Mutu
who had no game and kissed like a sloppy dog.
Eyes open.
I'm eyes open.
I'm not even...
Are you eyes open?
I'm an eyes open, everything.
Oh, shut your eyes.
I don't want to close my eyes.
I don't want to fall asleep because I miss you, baby.
And I don't want to miss the thing.
So you don't want to miss the thing, so it's eyes open.
Okay.
First ever and worst ever patch was in the club
after I'd just thrown up in the bathroom.
Ferrell.
Somewhere out there, that person is also telling the story about the worst kiss
they ever had with someone whose mouth tasted like regurgitated cranberry
Vodka.
And no UTI.
So that's, you know.
First kiss, we decided to turn the light off
and smashed our teeth together.
He got a blood lip and I cut my tongue.
Worst Pash, like very bad Pash rash
subsequently got infected with a staff.
Oh, Haley.
I tell you got your staff.
No, but
it probably didn't make it better
than I was sharing that staff
with Casseurs.
I am told
work, I had a carpet burn from falling out of bed.
Took weeks to heal.
And also, no one was believing that story at work.
Oh, hold on. Somebody has, we've got an update on one of the pashes.
Okay.
Oh, fantastic.
I'm just letting the history of it.
Oh, so it's the Marilyn Manson guy.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
She said we hooked up a few years later and still absolutely terrible a kisser.
Oh, no.
No, you don't want that.
Why should go back for another Marilyn poke?
Well, keep your text coming in, 9-6-96, 0-800 dials,
and we want to know your worst kiss as kissing
apparently turns 20 million years old.
Happy birth.
So scientists have worked out
even it would have been Neanderthals and...
Neanderthals kissed humans and the monkeys.
We didn't kiss monkeys.
Maybe someone's kissed a monkey.
I mean, someone is kissed a monkey at some stage.
Someone's kissed a monkey at some stage.
I mean, it's just like putting a million monkeys
at a million typewriters.
One of them is going to type Shakespeare.
There's a million monkeys and seven billion humans
Someone's kissed a monkey, sure
Do you tell me Jane Goodall didn't kiss a monkey?
Come on if she did,
she got a monkey a little smooch.
RIP. RIP.
So on the back of this news
that kissing is 20 million years old,
we want to know your worst kiss
in the history of kissing.
So good.
I remember we've done this topic before
many years ago and it was very funny
and it's still so good.
It's so good.
We've all had them.
Go, say it.
My first kiss was in year seven.
Right after school finished, I got a raging Stiffy.
And then...
Whoa.
Then had to walk to Mum's car through a group of kids at school with my Willie very visible through my shorts.
Oh, I had the nickname Stiffy for approximately five years.
Because would you even know what...
Oh, God, I don't even...
Tuck it under the belt, but do it carefully for crying out loud.
Oh, you always have to tuck it under the...
Tuck it under the belt or the waistband.
Yeah.
That's so funny
So it wasn't the kiss
It was the aftermath
That was the worst kiss
Worst kiss we were making out
And I would constantly have to pull away
To rest my head on a shoulder
But I was actually wiping my mouth on a shoulder
Because it was so wet
I'm just gonna nuzzle in here
Just drying the face
Not my first patch
Oh somebody else
Somebody else got such bad patch rash
It got infected
Oh dear
Oh my first
Imagine telling the doctor that
What caused the rash in the first place?
He was a stubbly fellow.
A piss poor kisser.
He went hard.
Worst kiss was my first kiss at the Marty rowing after party.
Now I was never a rower, but I heard these Marty cups get out of control.
Oh yeah, pretty wild.
The after party, it was in the forest at Twissel.
If that forest could speak.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
I've seen some things.
Wasn't there a bad forest fire at Twisle sort of semi-recently?
It probably burned itself.
off down from all the sin
to cleanse itself of the sins
of their 13 rowers at the Marty Cup
he was going so hard out
that my jaw kept clicking in response
oh my God popping the jaw
popping the jaw
I went in for a passion as we're passionate
I was like what's that funny taste and I pulled back
and then the guy got a blood nose and I was just like
passion the blood was everywhere
oh god
I've got two worst kisses the first equal
very first kiss at 14
the guy had a small tongue
it felt like kissing a baby
small tongue
I've never heard that
I've never heard of anyone having a small tongue
I thought we just all had proportionate tongue
yeah just medium tongue had that thing
where the tongue's kind of like
oh yeah doesn't go far out of the mouth
because the string comes too far along
he never got it cut when he was a baby
just get him circumcised yeah
circumcised a tongue circumcision
he never had it so his tongue
he couldn't get his tongue past his teeth.
What?
Yeah, no, no, no, he had his tongue, so maybe that was him.
Then the other one...
Wait, did he get it sorted for, you know, future...
No, he didn't.
Wives.
Future wives.
She's apparently happy with that.
Okay.
That's what the SP2 comes in for.
Okay, so the first kiss with the baby tongue at 14,
then at 15, it went the opposite direction with another guy
who had the longest tongue,
and was very slobbery.
Wait, so there's no pleasing her.
She had the shortest.
No, she's golly loxing.
And the loxing.
What do you want for the perfect tongue?
What do you want?
First kiss, first worst kiss was when I was 10.
He had braces, mouth open, poking tongue out like a lizard, not moving it at all.
I couldn't mold my mouth around his mouth, and it didn't know what I was doing.
We were basically just like pushing our tongue at each other.
Yeah.
So I love that people remember these.
Yeah, I know.
Tung seems to be a real common denominator here.
My worst kiss was someone that went on to become a high-profile New Zealand murderer.
He dribbled and smelt.
What?
Okay, we are going to need a follow-up to that just between us.
We won't say it on ever.
We're going to need a follow-up.
Worst kiss was drunk at a party drinking $5 wine.
Hooked into this chick.
Hooked into this chick.
Hooked into this check.
Hooked into this check.
Hooked into this check.
Open mouth.
Hoonged in this trick, open mouth, lots of tongue,
and then did this massive burp.
But we'd sealed mouth, so the burt just kind of went in and hung in there.
Needless to say nothing further happened after that.
Have we done texts of the week this week?
We haven't.
Should we make that text of the week?
Because that has really tickled me.
Text of the week.
We've got a $50 animates voucher for you making happy happen for pets.
I think we'll end it there.
No, no, no, no, no.
What, there's more?
Yeah, there's more.
Okay.
My worst kiss was in high school.
The guy I was dating was a germaphobe.
He refused to kiss unless we put glad rat between us.
Um.
What?
I was snogging a guy and my hair got caught in his nose ring and I pulled back and he was like,
and then we were stuck there until just 20 minutes to get free.
Amazing.
Oh, gosh.
I remember my first kiss.
It was in the middle of a cold a sack and she tasted like luncheon.
that's so good
and somebody else said
the girl who wasn't happy
with the little tongue
or the big tongue
I guess you could call her
Goldilix
pretty good
yeah that's good
that's good stuff
we just gave away the text
of the week
I know I
sorry maybe I'm
maybe I'm pretty sure
yeah
I just love all of these
my worst kiss
wasn't even that long
I hooked up with an Australian
girl who sucked on my lip
and I was like
that's okay but it hurts
a little bit
then she got my tongue
between her lips and sucked on the tongue.
It physically hurt.
I had to tell her to stop.
Now you grab your tongue and pull it out of your mouth
and then try to say, please stop and hurt.
That's a little bit forward.
I thought what you're doing, you know?
What is the next?
I hope everybody gets kisses this weekend.
Get some good kisses, baby.
Get some courses, baby.
Love your baby.
Love your babies.
Give you, baby.
Bye-bye.
See you.
later.
Actually, I'm going to have to stop you there.
That's copyrighted.
Suezy Kate, who's a very good friend of mine.
Well, she's already sued me twice.
So if you could maybe get her to drop her litigious action,
that would be great.
Tell her, I'll review her five stars.
Yeah.
If she does the same for this podcast.
Yeah.
And then she tells all her friends.
And if you're listening, maybe give it five stars as well.
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