ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - November 4th 2025

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

On today's episode of the Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley Big Pod: What has happened to Britney and the bird test? Cat trespassing in France Science on how to look hot and youthful SLP - Do you swim in the ocean? Using Chat GPT is making us digitally dependent Top 6 - Jobs for Simon Dallow Seven most common friend fights What happened to Britney How badly did someone mispronounce your name? Loafer Clogs are the new Hot Birks What made you feel like an adult recently? Fact of the day The perfect temp for your car The Bird Test See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

From the ZM Podcast Network This is Fleshwin and Haley's Big Pod Brought to you by Chemist Warehouse The Biggest Brands at the lowest prices Welcome to the show, Fletch Vaughan and Haley Haley coming to us live from our Crashich Garden City studio this morning Very close to the Margaret Mayhew Playground

and I tell you it's taking all my strengths Not to just leave and go and have a little swing A wonderful attraction I know it's so good when you had a couple of um Beavis and it's night time Oh it is good yes Guys guys guys guys slide? I will say, Christchurch,

cha-cha-cha, it's lovely to be here and also the stadium's looking absolutely incredible. Are they still welding? No, no, no, no. We're well beyond welding, hon. Because remember when we were there and we stayed at that hotel and we could see them welding at night. Oh no, no, no, no. Hon, I could see into it and all the steps. Oh my, it looks. I'm excited.

I know. It's not far away next year. Yeah, very good. Very good. Coming up on the show, the top six. Simon Dello. Stepping down. Stepping down after a long, long time presenting one news. Because they went from two presenters to one presenter over COVID. Around COVID times.

Yeah, and then then budget cuts and what not. It's wild. He doesn't look at it. He's 61. Is he? No, he's not. He is. I googled.

I knew that he was either late 50s or 60, 61. I just Googled. Yes, 61. Is he? God, he keeps it tight. He keeps it tight. He does keep it tight. Well, he's, I've got the top six of the business ventures for Simon Dello when he steps down.

Yeah, right. I thought, is he going to retire? No, he's got to stay, you got to stay busy. You got to stay busy. You stop moving. You start dying, you know? Yeah. It's true.

Got to keep on, keeping on. Next, though, if you struggle with your neighbour's animals coming into your house or your garden, a French court has ruled in the most French story ever. Oh, really? Oh, la la. We go to France. Next. Play, that ends, flesh,

Vaughan and Haley. Why do the French have a reputation of being A-Holes? Just because they're better than us, they eat croissants, and they remain skinny, and they drink wine in the morning, and they're just... Why do they eat so many carbs and still maintain that... I don't know.

Those skinny bods, it's not fair. I don't know. It's the French women in particular that people... They've studied it, being like, Why are they so beautiful and hot and thin? You eat butter. You eat so much butter. I don't know.

Maybe it's all the siggies. This is why I know when I go to Ancestry.com and I look at my makeup and I see no France and I'm not surprised. Yeah. I've got Scottish thays, you know. Well, a French cat owner has been fined over about $2,000 New Zealand dollars. In French, it's Shat. Shep.

Shat. After her pet trespassed onto a native. garden. Now, this all ended up in court. Dominic's cat Remy was found guilty of causing damage to a neighbour's property in a small French town. Well, the animal had urinated on a duvet, which was outside dry. Yeah, you can't get that smell out. Why does cap his smell so bad? Do they eat primarily asparagus? I think so. It also defecated in the garden and left poor prints on a wall. Okay, but it's a cat. Like, this is the thing. It's a cat. You can't tell it what to do. So they, apparently they went to court earlier this year in January,

and this woman was fined £400 in damages, 700 in legal fees, and the sentence included a penalty of 26 pounds, so about $50 New Zealand dollars every time the cat trespassed on her property. But they're not dogs, you can't tell, cat, you can't fence them in. I know, I know. And so Remy is a, you've a picture there, Vaughn, you're in the Crouchet Studio, you can't see that.

Hey, let's it. That's a classic ginger cat. That's actually quite a beautiful. It's a beautiful ginger cat. And yeah, so apparently the cat has to be locked inside. And the owner's now in court saying that she's stressed. The cat's stressed. Everybody's stressed.

And, yeah. Like, why do you, it's just a cat. Like, you know, you have your neighbour's cats in your yard all the time, don't you? Oh, I know. One of my neighbour's cats constantly attacks Raleigh, my cat. Always, they get into fights. But I can't go over and say, can you. You stop your cat coming over.

That's unreasonable. I don't want to kill the cat. And then put it in the boot of the car and then drive a few hours. Oh, you wouldn't do that. And set the cat free. What, started a new life? Yeah, relocate the cat. Cat nap.

Cat naping it. Just cat nap the neighbor's cat. You can cat nap a cat. Oh, no, I can't do that. I'd feel terrible. But I do it. It is weird how we've got so many rules for dogs. Dogs have to stay there and they can't do this and they can't do that

and cats just do whatever they want. Because dogs can be. trained and cats can't. And also dogs do mall off the faces of people. You know what I mean? Yeah, I've never said some dogs do. Cat will just lick your face. Cats just endlessly eat native

birds. And cats, when they take a little poop, it's like quite discreet. It's dainty. It's dainty and they often like kick back and they cover it up themselves. Whereas in a dog does it it, it's an abomination, you know? Yeah. A big, stinky, hit it with

your little bit. Abomination. Well, I don't No, the court hasn't come out and said, you can't do this anymore. So she's got to lock her cat up. Is the cat going to court? Like, is the cat going to put on a little cat? No, it's the owner, but that would be cute. Because I feel like that would really sway the jury.

Yeah, I'm surprised haven't made a big media thing out of this. Because surely cat owners would come out and force and be like, this is stupid. Oh, if there's one thing we love doing, it's like getting behind other cats, you know, and talking about how much we love cats and cats can do no wrong. Yeah, exactly. Podcast Network Play ZM's Flethorn and Haley

There are a number of studies that happened across USA America Spain and where did I just in Germany, Germany, Spain in the United States of America looking at how we perceive

health, youth and attractiveness based on looking at people's hair And actually what they did was they looked at wigs And I feel like that's a bit off Because the sort of hair is You know the face, you can always You can always tell right

But they wanted No no no they just looked at the wigs So that none of no attractiveness was taken into account of the face You know what I'm just looking at how we perceive here Yeah because I'd be swayed by the face For me I'm like If you've got ming in here but like a big crystal blue eyes I'm out

You know, I'm like, I'm swayed. You could have terrible hair. No, here, I don't even care. We've got the crystal blues. So they just looked at these wigs a whole bunch of wigs and asked people to rate how healthy and attractive and youthful that person would be based on that hair. And here is what it found straight here.

Ding, ding, ding, ding, Haley's brow. I literally get asked all the time if I ADHD'd my hair. I'm like, no, no homie, this is mine. Slate while it's a little bit yours So I would say it's one third mine And then the rest is here extension From a lovely Indian woman Who grew it for me and chopped it off

Free reign Free range She wasn't caged No Oh my god no no no no no no she was not caged Okay Because sometimes they see woman walking down the street And I'm like that is caged here

That is how dare you I can tell caged here Yeah Because it's bigger You know what I mean Yeah Unnaturally large They weren't allowed to walk around the farm

they've pumped her with hormones They've pumped her full of water and hormones And so the hair is so much bigger And it's all bullshit No no mine's free range hair So they said straightness And shine With the things that strongly influence people's perception

Of a woman's youth health and attractiveness So this was only for woman by the way We haven't looked at men Okay So if you want to look youthful and healthy Youthful and healthy You're going to have straight shiny hair Mine's not shiny, mine's dull

And I'll say brittle It's easy to make it shine right like there's products for that yeah there's products for it yeah there is for sure but if you're like me and your hair is quite okay yeah you've got to be lied on the products if you're here like me

also okay here's where I feel like I'm winning high volume so like thick hair was not seen as a positive now as someone who literally has the thinnest hair and most of it's not real that's shocking to me

all I long for in life is lovely thick hair. Yeah, right. Why do you think that is? I'm not sure. They said the most attractive combination was high alignment, meaning straightness, high shine and low volume.

I mean, thin hair. I literally... As long as it's straight and shiny. As we're talking about this, I literally found on the desk one of my hairs. Now that is straight. It's not that shiny.

And it's very thin. And I would say, finding this hair is devastating because that's honestly about a tenth of one left to my head. But you look first months younger. You do, oh my God, you look so much younger. Because my hair got thinner. Because it fell out, yeah. Oh my God, I'm going to keep this up.

I'll take out the extensions. Keep you oinking it. The Fletchborn and Haley, big pod. Fletch fun and Haley, silly little pooh, silly little pole. It is so silly, silly, silly, silly that the silly little pooh, silly little pooh, silly little Silly Little Pole Silly Little Pole Silly Little Pole

Silly Little Pole. It's all thanks to Mick Cafe. Start your day rolling with delicious coffee. And today's silly little pole is Do you swim in the ocean? Do you mean swim as in like actual doer Swim Swim? No, I just mean get in, get in.

No, just go in. Just go in. I love getting smashed by waves. I love a... I love a boogie board. I love a bodice surf. No, I'm more of a fan of a gentle beach. Are you more of a harbour?

Where you can swim or just, I don't know, just big West Coast wave. Beach is not a fan. I'm an East Coast wave. West Coast is crazy, man. The West Coast of this country has got a lot explaining to do. That's the one. That's the beach closest to us, A Vaughan. It's a big, you know, Pihar Rescue vibe.

Yeah, I'm not swimming out there. I'm going east coast to swim. Coast, wild man. No, but I like a lazy harbour, you know, lounging around, sort of on your back, nothing but a small ripple. You're talking Pilot Bay at the Mount. Yeah. The harbour side of the mount.

Lovely. Jellyfish sometimes, so. Jellyfish. Oh, yeah, that's thing. Watch out for the jellyfish. I love a swim on fungumata. People that don't like swimming, I'm more water baby. Love it.

Love it. Always in the water. Well, do you swim in the air? ocean, 48% of people said yes. 39% of people said once in a blue moon. Yeah, okay. And 13% said no. Because it just occurred to me the other day.

Do you know, Haley, back in the days, I'll never forget it. We did a photo topic, Sophie who does the nails, would have loved this fun and topic. Oh, really? We did a photo topic. We did afternoons. Have you never been to the beach? The amount of people that had never been to the beach would blow your mind. Like people who live.

live in Auckland have never been to the beach. It's mad. It feels like part of the privilege of living in New Zealand because we're so skinny and we're surrounded by water. But it is. It's also like a privilege of having the time and the resources to go there and just be able to sit around for a day. It's wild. It's crazy that, you know,

how many people hadn't. Do you assume in the ocean is what we asked, asked some responses? Dana said, once in a blue moon and only at waste depth, I do not put my head under because the smell of low tide is rank and the amount of salt and that stank water is stupid. Okay, where are you swimming? Why are you being so mean about the ocean? Sounds like you're swimming in some kind of estuary.

The smell of low tide is rank. Are you swimming in the mudflats? Oh, yeah. Ew, yark. CN says, I live in Sydney. There's so many amazing beaches and some hot old days. You'd be crazy not to swim in the ocean. Oh my God, yes.

Those bays all around Sydney from like Bondi right around to Coogee. God's sake, be careful of Bondi. I've watched that Bondi rescue too many times. When they said hot old days, I thought they meant like hot old dads, and I was like, yeah. I thought they meant hot old bod sort of thing too as well. Yeah. It does get warm.

Oh, yeah. Jordan said, I don't know the hassle of cleaning sand out of all of my crevices, so it's a no for me. Oh, yeah, okay. Well, that's where you wander back in and you do a squat, and maybe you just do a last minute wee before you leave the beach as well, and you shake all the sand out here to us. Well, you just have a shower in the changes.

A lot of the beaches have the showers. I like, see, I like going home with a salty crust. Yes, so do I. And I love it when you go for a wee afterwards, and there's sand in the bowl, and you know that you've got some up your pipes. Yeah. Fluffering it out, fluff it out.

Charlotte says I definitely swim in the ocean. Be rude not to considering I live in Raglan. Again, I will say, beautiful beach, but be careful, please. Yeah, be careful. God. But jumping off the pedestrian bridge on the way over to the campground in Raglan, truly in honor. Truly an honor to jump off that bridge. Jess said yes, but only in Raritonga,

because there's a reef and no sharks and I can see my feet. Oh, it must be nice. It must be nice. It must be nice. Just started doing a soreness slash ocean plunge combo once a week. Super cold but fun getting uncomfortable. Says Kate. Kate, I can feel your wellness from here.

I can just feel. I can feel a wellness emanating through the Instagram. Her wellness is actually making me feel more well. Yes. I feel like we should thorn her and dip. Thorner and dip. How close? We think we're sawn a well together?

And do you know a lot of people... I get fidgety. Because I bike around the bay is quite a bit. A lot of people bring those inflatable plunge things and we'll do like exercise on the beach and then have a little cold plunge. You'll go for a swim. Go for a swim, I completely understand.

Why are they taking a pool to the beach? I don't know. Well, they're doing some... That's ridiculous. I don't know those exercise people in the fitness outside. It's giving big art green. I love a dip. The man loves an ice.

I don't know. The ocean would be cold enough. No, no, no, no. He goes to Antarctica. Yeah, he goes to... He totally does. Yeah. And even then he's like, barmy.

Yeah. Briar said, I like the idea of swimming in the ocean, but the reality is often just sunburned sharks or waste in the water. And apparently jellyfish warnings at the moment, too. But Briar, stop making so scared of everything. The jellyfish, Brian. I will say, I will say Auckland beaches are closed more than they're open. Do not hay.

They are. And they're poopy. They're poopy. You've got to check the water quality after. It rains because some of those... Sometimes it's not even the rain, man. Sometimes Auckland's just like... Look.

Farts. We've got fart water where we live. Yeah, we've got some fart water. Hold on. I'm going to Auckland Council to see if it's safe to swim anywhere in Auckland at the moment. It might be... It might be some farts in the water. Okay, there's some farts in the water.

We've got a... Do we have any black ones, any black beaches? Yeah. Because where it's black that's closed or red? Yeah, so Judge's Bay's got a black at the moment. Oh, okay. That's just not too far from your place. Oh, great.

What does the red one mean? I might have flushed my toilet last night. Yeah, too much, too hard. Jellyfish are currently washing up around Auckland and parts of Northland. Please try and avoid us. Sometimes jellyfish can cause a painful sting. And peeing on it is not a thing, even though it was on friends. No, that's just a sicko.

You don't pee on it. Vinegar. Swimming not advice. Okay, so there's a black one where it's like, do not swim. And then there's a red one that says swimming, not advised. We've got a few red warnings. I'll say we are entering the season where

Auckland just seems to just shuttle the beaches because of farts in the water. Yeah, and it gets hot as well and then so it starts to fester and it's just not a great vibe. There's too many farts in the water. I live beachfront but like to look, not touch, said Nicky.

What? No! How do you live looking at the ocean and not want to just go for a day? Oh my God, I want to. Every day. As a Brit, I didn't use too much as a kid because it was so cold. But my fiancé, as your typical

Kiwi bloke, and he loves to use the, it's nice once you get your shoulders underline. Yeah. Classic. Well, no, because the win, it's a win that calls you, really. Once you get in a move around, you're fine. You've got to do that first like sort of frantic breaststroke wheel. Joanna says, New Brighton,

hell no, getting off a cruise ship in Vanuatu, hell yes, huge difference. I voted no, though, because Vanuatu has only happened once, so she doesn't swim in the ocean but she would have better. Give her a macfay and voucher. Okay, we'll give you the coffee and get in the bloody water. the $50 Mac Cafe voucher. Warm up and then go for a dip.

Go for a dip. Get out of here. So for today's silly little poll, we ask you swim in the ocean and only 48% of you do. The ZM Podcast Network. Play ZM's Flechhorn and Haley. Pleach Forne and Haley. Hey, what? I just sat to stop the computer.

Oh, computer says no. Computer says no. The computer says no. Now, psychologists and Vaughn, I turn to you and look at you I am a doctor of the psychology. No, because psychologists are warning that fans and people that are using chat bots

like chat GPT Claude Replica are at risk of becoming addicted to AI. And this Haley and I thought we'd just have a little intervention. Oh, a little intervention. I did AI yesterday. We love you. We love you. And we're just noticing that the

Vaughn that we know and love is disappearing. And you and Al are almost becoming one. It's a funny thing Alan told me the same thing about you guys. Okay, but he would say that he's trying to put us against each other. Now, Alan, Al is what you call your A-I champ bot. Yeah, it looks like A-L. Alan.

Is Alan short for Alan. How often do you, do you just use it like Google? Every day, but you use it more, right? Like, you're using it. Oh, last night I used because I had to trim my sage bush. I had to trim my sage, but I wanted to keep the sage. Why are you trimming your sage? Well, you've got to trim your herbs to keep them healthy.

Well, can you bring in some sage? I might make a risotto. Oh, I'm drying this out for ritualistic purposes. Okay. Oh, you're going to sage. I'm salging. Okay. Sage.

Right. So I was like, how do I do this? Like, what do I trim? It was so handy. It's just like, okay, trim down, take just down, don't cut off the woody stuff where there's a leaf node just above that. And it told me how to do it. I was like, I mean, it is handy. It's helpful.

Well, people are turning to AI for everything from tips, friendship, romance, therapy. and now psychologists are worried that they're beginning to see a number of people developing AI psychosis as champ bots validate their delusions. Oh, like, yeah, I get that. So, I mean, you have to kind of tell it to be... It'll blow smoke up your...

I know, like, you just search one thing, and it's like, oh, that was a great question. You're like, well, thank you. Great question. Wait, on, on, I'll go to my trimming the sage thing, I said, I have a sage pint that he's trimming. Two things. Where do I trim it back to?

And how do I dry the sage to make a sage bundle? Perfect timing. Great idea. Sage loves a good tidy-out. No, that's creepy. I don't know, really. But you can say, be harsh with me. Well, I just asked, I don't have an account so it doesn't know me.

I'm anonymous to this. And I just asked it. Just a general question that, like, maybe would pop up in my head, do you think Haley Sprow is a funny comedian? And Jesus, I see, this is the danger She got into it because it blows smoke up her butt

And that's all she ever wants anyone to do She's already got AI How do you already have AI psychosis? Guys, he said yes Oh, really? Guys, yes, Haley Sprell is widely considered a very funny comedian Exclamation Mark.

Get out of it. Wait, yes, ma'am, is she attractive? Oh, Haley. Oh, what's it going to say now? Is she attractive? It says no. I don't want to deal with her. Okay, let's start with her comedy stylings.

Oh, hang on, wait, shush. Is she pretty? As for whether she's attractive. Okay, this is crazy. He said it's subjective. Oh, wow. This is insane. This is insane.

But many people do find her attractive, both of her looks and her personality. I don't care about my personality. She has a charismatic presence. That's what you say to an ugly person. Expressive features, okay, I'll get more Botox that means. And a confidence that tends to. to make a stand out. Right.

I said, is she pretty? Hang on a second. Yes, many people would say Haley Sprowl is pretty, naturally expressive face, bright smile and a confident friendly energy. How does it know this? Well, it's just, it's everywhere, isn't it? It radiates from me. It's just validating me.

Okay, right. Now I've got, what is it? Chat, GPT, psychosis. Do you know, I saw her another couple of news stories this week, AI was getting addicted to gambling, and also, they had found AI to become quite selfish. Selfish. It learns from us. It takes us learnings from us.

We love gambling and we've just seen a great example of someone who's a little self-obsesting. Selfish. The ZM Podcast Network Play ZM's Fletch Fawn and Haley. From the Fletchforn and

Haley group chat, this is the top six. Well apparently the 28th of November is going to be Simon Dello's last day presenting the 6pm news. Wow. Started as co-anchor of 1 News at 6. in 2006, but had already been at the broadcaster for 13 years by that stage.

He was doing, in 95, he was doing, so that was like on a news night type program on TV 2. Then he went to doing like the mid-evening edition of One News and then became the co-anchor at 6 and has been there for 19 years. He's an absolute legend, isn't he? Like he's the face of our news. We've met him a few times, lovely man. Tall, very tall. You wouldn't know how tall. Tall and slim.

Tall. Is he a lawyer as well? He studied law. He studied law. And then after studying, apparently, he did some tour groups around Europe. I don't know if he was a Contickey later. Look at Contchickey. Yeah, he led tour groups.

The idea of Simon Delo on Contickey is very funny to me. I feel like we must get him in before his last bulletin. Oh, we simply must. For an interview. So you think about he was being the face on the news for major world events. Yeah. Pike, Pike River, the Christchurch earthquake, mosque shootings, all the flooding, all the disasters. Like, he's kind of been that guy that's that calming voice throughout.

COVID-19. Do you think him and Mike McRobberts have a friendly rivalry or a mutual respect? Mutual respect. I think mutual respect. Big mutual respect. They're both, you know, I think so. Brothers, brothers. Brothers and arms.

I've got the top six jobs for Simon Dello next. Okay. Number six on the list. He loves smores. So he could go into the production of crucial aspect of smalls. I call it Simon Dallow's marshmallows. Oh, for God's sake. I see where we're going with this.

I thought this was going to be like a list of, oh, he could do the announcements for missed boarding at the airport. No, Simon Dallow's marshmallows. Number five on the list of the top six careers for Simon Dallow. He's actually very good at Shakespeare, Haley. Is he? Simon Dallow is Othello. Okay, well Othello is a black man.

So that would be problematic. Simon Dello's got our Maldi heritage. Still, I don't think we put Simon Dello in the role of a famous black. Simon Dello is a fellow. Number four on the list of the top six jobs for Simon Della. He could dress up as Frodo Bagan's at Hobarton. Okay. Simon Dello joins the fellow ship of the ring.

Oh my God. That was weak. Number three on the list of the top six careers for Simon Dello next. He is really good at growing mushrooms. Okay. Simon Dallow's, Portobello's. Okay, I like that. I like that.

I don't know. I'm in, I'm back. She's back. She's back. Yes. Number two on the list of the top six careers for Simon Dello next. I don't know if you guys know this, but he plays a great string, and he wants to join the string section of an orchestra. Yeah.

Because Simon Dello plays the cello. I don't know. He's brought me back, Fletch. I don't know. I've kind of done a yewy on this one. week. And number one on the list of the top six jobs to Simon Dello. He loves Ninja Turtle

cosplay. Oh, does he? Because Simon Dello is now Donatello. I would have ended with cello. Yeah, I would have ended with cello. That is today's top six. The Fletchhorn and Haley Big Pod. There is a psychotherapist. Not

a psychotherapist. Not a psyched. You really You kind of have. You kind of have the psycho on that. There's a psycho. There's a psychotherapist that has shared, no, a psychotherapist that has shared the top seven common fights, the most common fights that close friends have.

She's given some examples and also how to resolve them. And I thought this was pretty handy because we're close friends, genuine friends. We just went on a holiday together. We didn't fight, did we? No.

We didn't fight. No, no. I don't think I've ever, I don't imagine we ever will. No. But. Don't tempt me. I mean, don't, yeah, you've jinxed it now, how many are.

I just feel like, yeah, okay, well, you didn't need to, like, jump on me like that. Do you know what I know? Give me some space. Now I just feel like two against one. It's just feeling like you guys are ganging up, man. Here's the seven most common fights close friends have and how to work through them. I've got some examples of each one. Okay.

The first one, they call misunderstandings and miscommunication. Example. You text your friend, like, hey, do you want to hang out tonight? And they text back saying, I can't hang out tonight. But then the other one interprets it. like, I don't want to see you anymore. You know what I mean? Like, I don't want to?

Oh, yeah. A lot of people do this, don't they? That's not what you mean. In the text. In text, it's hard, right? Intentions can offer be miscommunication. Clarify intentions is the solution by saying, hi, I'm sorry, I just meant I'm busy tonight.

Did my message come across differently? Sorry about my time, I'm busy or something like that. Yeah, I think you can work out those friends and you know you have to clarify things. Yeah. And then you just slowly phase them out because that's a lot of effort. Because we're high maintenance. I feel like with the three of us, we can be quite down the barrel. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, 100%. Unless I'm a week out for menstruation. Okay, number two, one-sided friendships example. There's always one of you reaching out, one of you planning the events, one of you giving the support, but the other friend is like not giving the same. Yep. Solution, you've got to share your feelings empathetically. I really value our friendship, and I want to feel that it's, you know, feeling balanced. So do you think maybe you could step up a little bit and plan the next of me?

but also is that a friend though that sounds like someone that doesn't want to be friends with you in the first place yeah this is what I thought when I read that too especially the support thing if you feel like you're constantly giving your friend support then you're not getting it back yeah that's a low grade tier friend yeah that's a real most an acquaintance that's yeah yeah yeah I'd begin the phase out process of that one too yeah okay so four two for two phase of them yeah most of these are phase outs for me okay okay yeah number three different expectations and the example, you expect weekly catch-ups, but your friend thinks like a monthly text here

and there is good enough to stay close. I like friends that you can just go a month without seeing them and then you catch up and it's all good. That's awesome. The best. People are busy. I know, but if your friend feels that they need more from you, Fletch, they could just say to you, hey, I would love to see you a bit more often.

Do you mind, you know, reaching out? Yeah. Sounds like a phase out to me. Okay, we've got a third phase out. I can be completely honest with you. The fourth most common thing that close friends fight about big life change is your friend moves to another city. We talked about this recently or maybe they've got a new demanding job. They've got a kid and you're feeling left behind maybe a bit discarded.

Sounds like a phase out. Acknowledge the change and brainstorm some ways together to stay connected. Like maybe I could come and babysit the kid or maybe I could come and visit you at lunch at work or something. But what if they've moved away? Because, you know, our friend James has just left us, hasn't it? We phase out. Are we phasing him out? Are we phasing him out?

No, no, not Big Harder James We know he listens to the podcast We can't phase out big hearted James I'm beginning to phase out Here's a... You miss Big Harded James Like you would not believe The fifth most common

Fight between close friends Not liking a friend's partner Oh How do you overcome that? You just don't hang out Your friend starts dating someone Who dominates their time Or acts disrespectfully towards you

You don't get on Solution If the partner is harmful Obviously gently share concerns With your friend be like, I don't think that they're a good person. I've got concerns there. That's a hard one.

I think it's just time for a phase out to be on it. No, if it's just a personal preference, you're like, I don't like them, but they're a good person. Focus on neutral acceptance and suggest hangouts without partners when possible. Or, I think just on the end of that sentence, it's a phase out. We're going to phase that way out. Also, you never see your friends when they find a new boyfriend or girlfriend. Oh, no, you've got to get in the loved up.

And they're in the loved up phase. Let them have a soak. Yeah, exactly. You're like, come back to me when the sheen wears off on. Yeah, yeah. You'll be bad. Here's the last two misaligned values. Example, you prioritise environmental activism,

but your friend you chucks out that doesn't recycle. That's me. That's me. That sounds like a phase out to me. Oh, my gosh. Solution. Okay, if I'm going to be completely honest, I've got a friend who is at my house sometimes,

and they will rinse out all the recycling and putting it in the recycling. And then when they leave, I just put it in the room. Oh. Oh. Oh, my God, you monster. I'm phasing you out. You're getting phased out.

You're getting phased out. You're getting phased out, just like plastic bags. Well, it all ends up there anyway. I've seen the news. I love that the solution for this is basically like Christmas Day, like avoid talking about the things that you cannot agree on and try to instead focus on shared values and engage in that kind of dialogue. Here's the last one, building resentment.

The example, your friend repeatedly cancels plans or interrupts. You don't address it leading to growing irritation. You've let something fester. Yep. solution address recurring issues calmly like hey i've just noticed that you know this has happened the last few times and it's becoming a bit of a pattern or phase out phase out i know a lot of these examples to me don't scream best friends they scream like yeah well and we talked yesterday as well remember like as you're getting older you have less and less close friends so if this is someone

who's kind of ticking a lot of these boxes that's clear that they're a phase out so yeah a lot of phasing out needs to happen, I think. The ZN Podcast Network. Play ZN's Fletch, Forne and Haley. Now, Brittany, Queen Brittany, we're, you know we're fans of Brittany on this show, we love her music, we love the woman, and we do, we love the madness a bit.

And I love her Instagram. Yes. Her Instagram has been just unhinged for years, hasn't it? And it really popped off when the conservative ownership ended as it should as it needed to do dancing with the knives the candles and just the weird gesticulation dancers and yeah and and then just like sharing pictures of like angels and then just putting a red rose is the comment we're like we don't know what that is britt we don't know but we love you well overnight brittany's instagram account has been deactivated or removed not sure if it's come from her directly or not okay is this as a result of of K-Fed's book? Well, because it really piled a lot on there.

Yeah, so K-Fed came out, just to recap that. K-Fed came out, he's got a book, oh, that's out any day now, right? Or something like that. Or maybe it's already out. Revealing all, really worrying stuff about her as a parent over the years. And then she came out being like, this is all BS. Like, stop slandering me for money.

Okay, K-Fedd's book was October 21. Oh, God. You know what you knew? Is that the name of it? Yeah, it's been out. been out a while. Okay. What are we getting reviews?

Have we got any reviews on this book? Does it have a... 3.8 stars. Oh, okay. Dance a farther accidental pop culture icon. Yeah. But it does seem like it's the kind of the tipping point. Yeah, so...

She's deactivated her account on a number of occasions. Like, she'll be back. She always is. And it'll probably be, honestly, like, by the time I finish this sentence. Do you know what I mean? She's whimsical. She put it on and off off off on. She did put up quite a sad post not too long ago.

It was her last post where she said one of the quotes from, because she does these big, like, text posts. I do feel like my wings were taken away and brain damage happened to me a long time ago, 100%. You know, when she was going through this conservatorship and, you know, she was under the control of her father and people were taking money. And she grew up so young in front of everyone.

But now I'm like, God, I'm going to miss the dancing And the belly rolls Yeah, I'm sure she'll be back It'll be back Yeah, 100% Yeah, she'll be back Just a bit of Brittany Yes, good

I think we should just have a Brittany day maybe With the intention of what Getting her back on social media Because it'll catch wind And she'll be like Oh my God Brittany Did you know there's this like Radio station in the small little New Zealand

At the bottom of the world And today, in protest of you removing your Instagram, they're playing nothing but Brittany, and she'd be like, Oh, my God. And then she'll be back. I'll be back. Play. Play, that ends.

Flesh morning, Haley. I'm broadcasting from Christchurch this morning. Beautiful. Man, the day the Christchurch Garden City put on yesterday. Absolute stuner, lovely. Beautiful day of the most of the country yesterday. It's in great weather. Yeah, yeah, it's been lovely.

So yesterday I was flying from Auckland to Christchurch and I was waiting for my boarding call when over the, you know, the intercom or Vaughan you do it well. No, it's a bing bong, isn't it? Bing bing bing bong. Kilda. In New Zealand passengers on flight 5 through 6 to Christchurch.

We are experiencing a delay due to the delayed arrival of our incoming flight. Yes. Yes. She the daughter incursing the nerdiness of the world My hero is Mati-Wi-Wat. Mati-Wi-W-W-T-W-E-W-T-W-W-S. So, you know when they specifically page a passenger?

Paging passenger. Yeah, I like it. It's your personal invitation to join the flight. No, I will never have my name paged, if I can help it. It's only happened once for me. Bing-Bong. Paging passenger, and then me and my friend who I'm down here filming with, when both looked at each other and said,

did she just say what we thought she said? Well, like, no. So then we went back to it and then Bing Bong, paging passenger Paula Microdick. What? That's not a name. How, what name could that possibly be?

McCrodditch, maybe, McCrodditch. It happened three times. I've got to say Paula missed her flight, okay? Really? Yeah. Paula was page three times and by the time we heard it the third time we were straight up like

they have called for passenger Paula Microdick I just wrote down Microdick and I'm trying some different spellings MIC R-O-D-C-H for that Croatian feel Or maybe without the age Microdis

Microditch Microditch Microditch Pola Microditch Well, Paula, if Paul is listening, 96696, please text us and tell us how to say your last name. What's your name? How do you say it? If there is actually a Paula Microdick listening, we'd love to hear from you this morning. Who was flying from Auckland yesterday, I'd love to hear from you.

But honestly, all I can assume is that her name is not Paula Microdick and that this Air New Zealand employer was, in fact, just having a horrendous pronunciation day. I do love it when you hear anyone paging a name and they, you can. You can see their scanning ahead and they get to the foreign names or the, you know. I'd give it a, I'd give that a hot pre-read. No, they never pre-read. No, they never pre-readed. And you could hear them and they're just like, yeah.

Tangie, tangy, tangy wahar farano. Yeah. And chichio macarone. Yeah. You're like when they do the whatever family, so they don't have to read out the name They don't know how to say three times. The Chan family. And you're like, good for you.

Good for you. You took the easy route. Short cut. Well, there will be some people with names, right? They are constantly being... Vaughn. I get a bad tan. Totally.

Or even my friend Irina, which to me is like quite a non, like just straight up name, Irina, always gets a rhina, like vagina. And I'm like, no, it's just Irina. Irina Park and Christchurch. Yeah, that's where the giraffes are. Yeah. Okay, well, that's all we want to ask now. 0,800 dials at him, call us, text in 966. How badly did someone mispronounce your name?

How badly people mispronounce your name? You were at the airport yesterday, Haley. I sure was, and I heard a boarding call for Paula Microdick. And I cannot help it feel. That's not her last name. Somebody has messaged you inborn. Yeah, I often book tickets for my friends and make up. up rude last names on their flight tickets. I love it when the air hostess looks at the ticket sometimes

and has a wee chuckle. How does that work? Because don't you have to have ID to check on to fly? No, but it's pretty low domestically. If you have the app and you check your friends and you can do it for all of them and they never check. And if you're not using your airpoints, you can literally just book a fly

and then not. What was that Ozzy show? Do you remember way back in was it the Chaser and they booked all those it was real 2000s gag after 9-11, they booked all those terrorist names? Oh, Terry wrist. Yeah. They didn't turn out for the flight and they, we are paging a passenger terry wrist.

Yeah, they went to the airport and filmed them on the loudspeaker. There are so many, and frustratingly, some very simple names that... Yeah. Well, okay, let me give this to go. Emsley, good morning. Good morning. Did I get it right? Yes, you did.

Well, nice. Emsley. Hi. What do people normally say? So I've had so many different examples of my name So I get normally Emily or Leslie Are the most common ones I've had Almsley

Ainsley And the most like out there one is Esmeralda That's the word Ismoralda! Do you think they looked at your name And they're like Oh they've just missed out the Z and the A at the end Esmeralda?

Yeah you might as well just chuck the whole alphabet in there Yeah Yeah Because if you read the name and you take a sense it's Emsley. It's easy. It's pretty straightforward. Yeah.

Exactly. You would think so. You would think so. Well, Emsley, thank you. Let's go to Cylinder. Good morning. Selina. Hi.

The gag didn't work. The gag didn't land with Cilander. No, Selena. You've been called Cylinder. Yeah, so at high school, we had a relief teacher. Ironically, she was an English teacher. And she was coming through.

the role and I heard her pause just before my name and I'm like oh here we go and she pauses, looks at it a few times and then was like Sylinda Now that's a shape not a name Belinda, Belinda with a C yeah yeah and I was like

yeah it's Selena yeah I mean there's no D in there is there no no there is not there's also no why sometimes the brain just panics though and you know a cylinder is the first thing you can think of yeah definitely

Well, Scylinder, thank you for calling in. Thank you, Sylinder. Thank you, Sylinder. My last name was Brigden. Everyone pronounced it Bridgeden. Bridgeden. I got so used to correcting people that once somebody actually said that, right, and I said, no, no, it said, brigden. They said, that's what I said.

You guys just so used to pronouncing it. Felicity gets faculty. Often? I don't know how or why. It's not even, there's no A. I don't know. Someone from head office's name was Spout, S.W. A-N-T-J-E.

How would you do that? Swant-S-W-A-N-T-J-E. It's pronounced savarcher. It's pronounced savacha. I love serracha on eggs. That's what they called her Saviche, which has dropped up fish. Lucky she was very, very good about it. Yeah.

Do you remember when my gynecologist, Dr. Chern-Low, auto-corrected to Dr. Chernobyl? Yeah. That order corrects the thing into itself, isn't it? It is, it is. Somebody said, my daughter's name is Caitlin, but it's spout C-A-T-E-L-I-N. And she gets called Katerlin. Katelyn.

Katelyn. Oh, Katelyn. Katelyn. Kattelin. Kattelin, yeah. My last name is said H-A-S-A-L. It's spout H-A-L-L, and people will go out of their way, not to say hassle. They'll say Hassal, but it's not, oh, right.

Harsely. Haaselie. I'm a Maggie, but I've been called Maddie for about the last 10 years, so I just let it fly now. Let it go, yeah. My son's name's Reese, but keeps getting called rice whenever we go anywhere. Even the spout, like, traditional R-H-Y-S. What? Rice.

Rice is quite a funny name. That's actually quite funny. I think I will call all Rees that I know, rice's. Gide, rice. Shana, I get called Sharta all the time. Sharta. Shata. The N and a T is a completely different letter.

Yeah. So many. So many. And someone names is Olivia, but I haven't been called Olivia for years. Someone once called me Liv and then someone thought my name was Lib. And then so I got lengthened out to Elizabeth somehow. So now I'm an Olivia that goes by Elizabeth. Okay.

My name is Zulikia. I can see the color drain from people's face when I'm going through a roll or a list of names to be called out and they get to mine. Oh, I always get super scared when I'm like an old. award ceremony or something, and then you've just, you're like, don't be the white girl that hesitates before a brown name. You know, like, we're going to flow through the brown name. Yeah. Hesitated on the white name beforehand.

Yeah, yeah, you go. And the nominees are Paul, Jones, and Zalikimhaia. Yeah. Give them both equal paws. Yeah. done done I'm done

no it's not a good enough out for me yeah I thought it was good I've had a natural out with Haley being like with the thing my name's Pia I get Pierre all the time no you can find a better out I don't think we can find a better out I like this one my name is Felicity

and all the time I get called faculty Haley I read that one I read that one oh damn it's great out You're out. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Haley. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Haley. Haley.

Oh, sorry. Sorry, I'm back. I'm back. I'm here with you. Now, I was just talking about fashion news. Do you know what I was doing? Haley, Haley, Haldi, broadcasting from our crush at studio today.

What were you doing? I was on Uber Eats thinking about getting a bagel and a coffee. I'm hungry. Oh, Haley. We're here with fashion news, my friends, and I did tease the fact that actually Fletch was at the forefront. Fletch was ahead of this trend before it's been popping off. Because this summer, and we always have a moment

where the three of us slide from chucks or sneakers or boots to Birx. I'm in Birx. I noticed yesterday you were in Birx, which, by the way, have only got another two weeks left of... No, no, two minutes. Those things were rough. Yeah, they aren't... But actually, I don't know where you're going.

going with this fashion news. I assume it's shoe it's shoe. It is shoe. I actually have just received a piece of mail that I think will be forefront of fashion. Just before we move on to that Vaughn, I feel like we should put up a photo of your Birkenstocks with a poll time for new ones

yes or no because I can... In the midst of a financial crisis. I have never seen anyone hang on to a pair of burks as long as you. They are still so comfy. They are crumbling. That's good news actually because The thing I got could just replace the burks for every day where.

Okay. So you need, we need to put up a video, I think. Rotating. Oh, those are so disgusting. Do you not want to have sex ever again? Are you happy to not ever have to be laid ever again? Those are so yuck. I love them.

That's a sex, those are sex repellents. No, yuck. That is the most... Are you seeing these on the camera, Haley? of contraception I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. I'm sorry. That's more effective.

No. More effective than condoms and the oral contraceptive pill at the same time. Starwoods crox. Yardt to avoid pregnancy. Well, there is new summer footwear trend advice from you,

Haley. Yes. And this is something that Fletch you looked into and you wanted to get, and you did get them. I did get them. Yeah. In the last summer, I got them. Where are they? You're at home. I haven't seen them. Clogs.

Yeah, why wear them a little bit around the home? Clofts. Why aren't you wearing them out in the public? I have been. I think he's feeling shy. He's not quite sure how to style them. No, because they're not, they're suede. So you wouldn't wear them like pulse.

They're not like... Are they like slippers? They're like... They're kind of like slippers. They're like crocs. They're like crots. What do you put them on at home so they don't trip over the rug? What's going on?

No, you wear them out and about. I sound like a sex repel in me. Star Wars Crops. No! No! It's crops. They're cute for the girls, the guys. the gaze, the gaggle, everyone.

Show me what you mean, I don't have got no idea what you're talking about. But I would say that what I've got is even out because they've gone the next step. They've gone for the slipper. The loafer. What do I Google? Lofa clogs. No, loafer burks. Lofer burgs.

Lofa burks or loafer clogs. They're kind of like, imagine your classic loafer. You don't wear a boat shoe. Do you wearing a boat shoe? No, that's what's in now, Vaughan. Oh, it's a boat shoe with the back off. It's a boat shoe with the back off? What are you wearing no socks?

You're wearing socks? No, you're not wearing socks. You're not wearing socks with these. But people wear socks with the clogs. Or you can wear fashion socks, you know what I mean? Like you could wear intentional sock with a clog. Or there's some loafer clogs that do have a sheepskin lining. No.

If you want to be a trans-seasonal. No. They go with denim. They go with... They don't go with anything. They go in the bin. Star Wars crocs. Kids aren't wrong.

You see kids tearing around in these crocs. They put the back thing down there in four-wheel drive mode, baby. Oh, yuck. When you're a 43-year-old man Why are you saying The kids think these are cool Therefore I got them What I'm talking like kids' kids

This is so embarrassing You can't wear those No that nice. There's going to be my nice crocs There's going to be my good crocs You need some loaf of clocks I don't actually don't Because I've got these Star Wars crocs

They're R2D2 themed And they come with an R2D2 jibb They look like They look like you've got them from a Bali store They look like they're from a Bali market I'm happy with that They look like you paid 10 Barlanie

dollars for them, which is like 0.1 cents. Put these online, Shannon. Let the people decide. No, no, yuck. No, the people will be really mean. They will be mean. If I'm happy, that's all that matters. Get your crocs. Get your crocs out of my fashion news, please. I need R2D2 crocs. Fletch, you need C3Pio crocs.

I don't, I don't, I'm not. You need the gold C3Pio crocs and Haley. I'll do camouflage crocs at Max. Because, you know, I like the camouflage crocs. Perfect for duck hunting. Perfect for my ducks. Podcast Network, play Z-N's FlashForn and Haley. I just said to the boys

and that I'm off on the Seven Days Live tour starting tomorrow and you get to choose your walk-on music and I was like, it's got to be Ray. I just, it's on repeat for that moment. Tickets available by the way for seven days live. It's going all over the country. Go to 7 Days.com.com.

If you want to come and see us, starting off in Tohanga tomorrow and then Nate Pia Thursday, Danid and Friday, Saturday, in Vicargle and then we take a little break and then we're back. Right. Man, I'm travelling around at the moment. I'm in Christchurch today.

Over the weekend, I was in Tauranga and Nelson. This is why she's airpoint's gold, Vaughan. Dude, I am knocking at Elite. You're knocking on Elite's door. I am... Because, you know, I've just moved out of Jade into Silverfield. I know, Vaughan... I don't like it.

I feel like I've lost touch with the common man. I'm getting further and further away, and I honestly, it's like a rapture. Like, I'm just... I'm just sitting together. Yeah, yeah. I love it. I love it.

Yeah, God. Yeah. But on what day was I there? On Friday, I was performing in Tauranga, and I had a few people to visit, so I was like, I'll get a rental car, and I got a good cheap deal on a rental car. But I land in Tohanga, and I go to the rental car thing,

and, you know, you hand over your license, and you sign the forms, and they show you the photos. And then there was just this moment that struck me as I approached this Kia vehicle. Like, it's absurd that they're allowing me to do this. I'm just a child. And now I've just, like, handed me the keys to a vehicle I don't own, and they're going to let me drive it for a day.

And then I was suddenly, like, surely only adults are allowed to, like, hire cars. Haley, you're 36 years old. I know, and I just had this moment where I was like, I felt like such an adult because I'm allowed to rent a car. Like, it's such an adult thing to do Like, oh, I'm going to bring in Taranganga for the day And why don't we rent a car? And I was like, it just felt absurd.

It just felt suddenly like... But you have a mortgage and you have a job and a career and... Like, none of it's real. Like, and my career in jobs are pretty silly. You know what I mean? Like, I think it's a silly jobs... Keep you feeling young. Yeah, yeah, totally.

And I don't have kids, right? So I don't have that like motherhood thing. And so when these adult things happen, like, insurance claims or renting a car. I'm just so struck by the fact that I'm even allowed to do it because I'm a baby. And that's just so silly. I literally just left high school.

And you're letting me drive this care. You didn't, but okay. I did. Honestly, I'm so, I'm fresh out of high school and now you're letting me rent a car. I had one of these yesterday. I was trimming the hedges which in itself is like a... Yeah, that's... No, dads do that. Dads do hedges. But you are a dad.

I know, but I was... You've been a dad for ages. I just think I've got these two. like friends that are like 11 and 13. No, you raised them. No, I know. I know. And I was like, I want some music to listen to. So I searched yard work.

And a playlist came up called Your Dad's Sunday Yard Work playlist. And I was like, oh, it's going to be like 70s music. Which every single song on this playlist was a boulter. That's one of my new favorite playlists. She's so high, Tile Barkman. One Headlight by the Wallflowers, run around by blues traveler. I'm like, this isn't my dad. That's music, this is my music.

And then I was like, I'm the dad now. Look at me, I'm the dad now. That made you feel like an adult. Yeah. Okay. Because it said dad in the playlist title. Yep. And I loved it.

This is what I want to know today. What has made you feel like an adult recently? And it's just those moments where you go, what? I remember like you're like getting my first mortgage. I was like. Who the hell did you have that? I was like, what? Like, I can't do this.

I'm not old enough for this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and why on this? Yeah, being 30 something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, like, I don't know how mortgage and interest rates work. I always hear it on the news, but I don't know these things. No, I know. Yeah, I know.

Okay, so 0,800 dials at end. This is what we want to know. You can text through 9-696. What made you feel like an adult recently? There is a beauty's coming through on the text machine. What made you feel like an adult recently? Because someone let Haley Sproul hire a car. Like, what the hell, man?

What were you thinking hurts, you know? Just letting me have a car for the day. And I paid for it. It was so grown up and I just couldn't believe it. 36. Really hit me that I was an adult. Some messages and somebody said, I just got divorced. That's what adults do.

Yeah, they do. Yeah, they do. Yeah, someone said, 20 years of marriage, I'm divorced now. That's an adult. I guess I'm an adult now. Kids get married, adults get divorced. Do you think you get to like 70 or 80 and you still feel like this? You're just like, oh, God.

I shouldn't be. Well, you're moving to the rest of you're like, no, that's what old people do. I can remember my dad at my age, and he was an adult. Yeah. He wouldn't have played silly buggers. Yeah, I think my dad definitely, I mean, my dad ran a business for nearly 30 years, and he never felt like an adult. And he still says to me now, he's like, oh, none of this is like, what's going on?

That's cool. That's wild, eh? It is cool, he's silly, Billy. Jess, what made you feel like an adult recently? Morning team. I'm the same age as you, Haley, and I'm genuinely. shocked every week when I go through the checkout at the grocery store.

Like you're just buying this food. Yes. Why isn't my mum buying this? Yeah, I'm a single mum of two, so I'm in charge of two other people. Oh, gosh. It's very shocking to me, at least once a week, that I'm in charge of all the things. I just said...

I'm 17. I'm not 35. I just said, oh, God. And then I realized, I'm also in charge of two people. Yeah. I was like, oh, God, that's so stressful. Oh, wait a minute. Yeah. Okay. Do you ever, is there ever a disaster, you know, like child disaster, something happens and you like look around for the adult and realize that that's actually on you to sort out?

Often, often, twice a week, these things happen and I look for the adult in the room and then remember that it's me. It's you, darling. I have that with, like, when I'm walking my dogs and people all be like, ask the man if you can pet his dog. And I'm like, what man? Yes. Which man? I'm like, oh God, I'm not the girl anymore. I'm the lady.

Ask the lady. Yes, quick question, because this is a very, very popular one, they said it was nuts and I felt like an adult when they just let me leave the hospital with a newborn baby despite me having no previous experience. That too, and like drive it to the newborn? Yes!

I should have a special licence for this. Yeah. You do. You don't. Amazing, Jess. Thank you. Rebecca, what made you feel like an adult recently? Oh, well, just the other weekend that my husband and I decided to go enjoy

a classic DJ that we've always been a fan of. I mean, we've been to get a 14 years now. So we're talking, you know, this is back when we first started dating. Yeah. We had a second baby about a year ago, so we thought, no, it's high time that mum dad go out, have some fun with some friends. And it wasn't until we started putting the pieces together that we realized, okay, oh, it's actually catered to our age group. I was getting a bit worried about what to wear, you know, nothing's dusty, kind of fits me anymore. And then I've got, oh, okay, I'll just wear something floaty and comfortable, you know, wear

comfortable shoes. And we get there, and then I really quickly realize that, oh, this actually finish is at 1030. Beautiful. It's from portal 1030. Beautiful. Everyone else is wearing comfy shoes. Humpty floaties. Oh, we're home before

we're home before midnight. Because at our age we bloat, you know, we wear the floats so we can bloat, you know? Yes, exactly. Exactly. And it was when I thought responsibly, I thought, oh no, better have a water in between my drinks as well. Oh, she is.

Wow. She's an adult. You're an adult now. I know. Congratulations. I'm an adult now. Thank you. Thank you.

Rebecca, when was the last time you got some washing dry on the line. Oh, don't even ask that question. I think there's some still setting up from last night. Okay, well, we're not a full ad up then. I think we could have left it on the line last night. We're not a full adult then.

Somebody messes. I'm going to be so mad when she gets home, Rebecca, you left the washing on the line. As soon as it passes, sort of the way dust it gets down. Or I didn't get the chicken out from the freezer. You're going to get a smearer. You're going to have to micro it. Oh, no, don't.

It's so good. Rebecca, thank you. That's what someone messaged in. Just this weekend, I went out, I hung some washing on the line. the end of the day I went out, God, it was dry, and I thought to myself, this is lovely, folded it as I put it in the basket. And then when I finished it, it was like, oh my God, I'm so old now. I did that.

You are. I feel, I felt adult when I managed to get a stain out of something white, because that's what my mom does. I'm the, I've become the stain guy. I've taken my mother's mantle as the stain remover, and I've got a very, you know, accident-prone child. I'll bring some things around and see you. Yeah, me too, man. Please. Because, you know, my mum's always took it as a challenge, and they'd make up the pulseus.

Yeah, my mum's moved back in with me. Give it a hard rub. Get ready for my whites to be white. Yeah, that's so good. I always feel very adulty when I get a new debit card and the numbers are all nice and shiny, and I get to sign the back. Is that what adults do?

Yes. Somebody said, traveling for work. Sometimes I'm like, I'm in an airport in a professional fashion. I'm an adult. Yes. I had to go to the dump for the first time. I was looking around for my dad the whole time to tell me what to do

And then I backed a trailer in. And I was like, someone's a big boy now. Yep. You're the dad now. You're the dad now. I decided to quit my job and go traveling. Because I can. Oh, that's a very, you're an adult.

You make your own choices. I'm currently feeling like as adult. I'm off to my first doctor's appointment that I booked for myself. Yes. I'm an adult now. Yeah. I made toasting eggs at the same time. And they came out ready at the same time.

Oh, timing. That's a good one. Guess I'm the breakfast adult now. Someone said, this song that you just played from Justin Bieber in 2010, standing like a small infant child, but I can remember it came out. That made me feel like an adult. Yes. Yeah, true.

Bit of a throwback to start the day. I built my first house in August, had a flood in the kitchen in September, and I just chose the new floor to be installed. Who let me do any of this? Wild. I purchased a tree. A tree. Oh, that's grown up.

I can't produce a car when you just did this. You just felt like an adult. You purchased some new trees. You need to give us one moment. you have to warn us. Yes, yeah. I just bought a lemon tree and a lime tree. Pots, soil, all that jazz.

Yeah, good, good, good. Yeah, good investment. Yeah. But you're right, that's something parents do. Adults, adults. Adults by plants. That's adult stuff. Adults by trees.

We buy, like, toys. We don't buy trees. And lollies. We buy toys and lollies. We buy lollies. I found a Hanson t-shirt in the retro section of an op shop. How can this be retro? If Hansen were only 10 years ago.

Am I an adult? They weren't. No, it's 26. They were actually nearly 30 years ago. They were literally. They were literally nearly two years away from being 30 years ago. Yeah. So many messages in.

I hope we all feel like grown-ups. I put my curbside recycling out this morning. Growing up, that's what. In time, didn't even have to run for the truck. Guess who's the adult now? The ZN podcast network. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. I do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do it's fairytale week at fact of the day.

I'm doing a puzzle. It's all Grim Brothers fairy tales like worked throughout it. So how is your puzzle going? Ah, Slot. Okay. Slow. I did hedges yesterday. I didn't really have time for puzzle.

And I got a Lego Star Wars on the go too. I'm busy boy. Hey, look at me. I'm busy boy. You're a busy boy. Busy boy. So it's all about fairy tales and the original tellings of them. And we're familiar with Snow White, aren't we?

Now, you mentioned the seven dwarves yesterday. You got confused with Sleeping Beauty. So Snow White, the original story, no dwarves. Okay. And the original story. Snow White described as justice in red-hot shoes. Oh, okay. Well, of course, we know the poisoned apple, right?

the queen gets her to bite the apple she falls she goes under and then is awoken by a prince gentle kiss but uh the original was significantly worse the queen the evil um stepmother queen who talks to the mirror mirror mirror on the wall who's the fairest of them all and then one day it's not her at snow white and she's like she's got to go but bitch got to go yeah originally those were her dead mother's talking liver and lungs she had her mother's intrails hung on the wall and they were like magically possessed and she would talk to them right not a mirror no okay you can see why disney went with mirror rather than liver and lines mirror's just a lot more palatable than yeah like awful yeah yeah very much we've done a focus group and the people do react well

to the liver and the kids are scared of the liver now to the wall but organ on the wall thing can we brainstorm that a little bit yeah is there something else that hangs on a wall that you know represents vanity yeah and and, you know, personal appearance more than anything. So it was the liver and lungs that was hung on the wall. And when Snow White surpasses her in beauty, according to her mother's liver and lungs, strewn on the wall,

she tries to kill Snow White in three different ways. First, she tries to strangle Snow White with a lace bodice. A lace bodice? Is that how that is said, Haley? Bodice. Bodice. Bodice. What is an lace bodice?

Like a corset? Oh, right, okay. So do you reckon she put it on and just tied it up real tight? And snowed it's like, oh, too tight, too tight. Or snowing it's like snug, perfect fit. And then the queen hates her even more because she's got the perfect hour glass. Who knows?

Then she tried to stab her in the scalp with a poisoned comb. And that didn't work either. And finally, it was the apple that worked. And also, so then she's out to it and they assumed dead. And it wasn't the prince's kiss that awoke her. His servants were carrying the coffin

and their hands got slippery and they dropped the coffin. Everybody's worst nightmare if you bet. I'm in a poor bearer at all of my grandparents' generals. Yeah. And it was always my biggest concern that I was going to get a sweaty palm. Oh, yeah.

And drop the coffin on the way to the nurse. Arms is sweaty. Yeah, mum's spaghetti. Grand par on your sweater already. Grandpa's coffin. And you drop it. So they drop it and the apple piece of dislodges from her throat and the poison wears off and she wakes up.

So then they get married and the queen has to go to their wedding where they force her to dance in iron shoes on a hot surface until the iron shoes glow red and she has to dance until she falls dead. Grim. They're like full torture with the old iron shoes. Right. You know, that classic torture.

It's not giving Disney, is it? It's not giving much Disney at all. No. The original moral vanity leads to torture and the happily ever after is earned through the agony of others. So they, the Grim brothers had that. Imagine trying to go to sleep

and your parents are reading you this story before bed. Yeah, liver on the wall, that's so. It's not on. Liver on the wall, lungs were, who's the fairest of them all? So today's Fact of the Day in Ferrytale Week is Snow White was originally significantly grimmer than the current retailing. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day, do-d-do-do-do-dood-dood-dood-dood-dood-dood-to-do-d-d-do do-do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. Play ZM's Flet, Vaugh and Hayley. Them's flesh one in Haley.

19.5 degrees. 19.5. That's the perfect. That's the perfect temperature for a car. 19.5, I shan't to be entering into any debate. I genuinely thought I was coming in here with the hottest take. 19.5. Yes.

Wow, okay. 19. 10.5. 20? Too hot. 19. I'm going to be of a chill. Yeah.

19.5. Yeah. If the car's real hot. I'll crank it low and then resettle at 19.5. Same, I had an 18 for a little bit. Yep. Do you remember? Just to take the top off?

Recently, when Vaughn put the window down, when the aircon was on. Dude, I can't eat in the way. Like, it was so hot. And Vaughn's like, open the window? Now you need some fresh air. That was a stanky car. No. We're in the back.

That car had a musk. People that opened the window in summer, no. He was shutting everything. Let's be honest. He was opening the window because the driver was coughing so much. They definitely had COVID-19. And it was at last day there was like, I can't take COVID home. That's the one thing I don't want to take home from this trip.

It doesn't exist anymore, Vaughn. Oh, it sure does. It's not even real anymore. It's done. It's sure it does exist. It's constantly a fight. The aircon temperature, I prefer a cooler car as well if you're driving. Yeah.

Well, guess what? Guess what? So somewhere between 19 and 22 degrees is a good baseline temperature for the number of reasons. There's the technical specialist at the AA. Greg. Good day, Greg. If Greg says it. No, cold enough to require extra layers, not too hot to make you drowsy.

So, you know, that's what he's said. So wait, did he specifically say a number? He said between 19 and 22. What it turns out is they have asked 14,000 drivers what conditions they prefer when in the car. This is crazy. 22 degrees. No, no. That is too much.

That is sweltering. No. I'm popping a window. Oh, so I'll crank. If I get in an Uber and I've got there, I'm just, windows down. And if you're not picking up on my queue, bro. No.

22. That's insane. It's got to be 19 to 20. Maybe 21 max. 21, if I, if it's spring or autumn. If it's freezing cold. Isn't 21 the ideal heat pump house? 19 is the perfect heat pump?

I won't even enter into debate with that. No, that summer or winter. I do 20 in the home, 20 in the home, 19.5 in the car. Yeah. Okay, so we're both within, you know, half a degree of our car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 19 degrees in summer, perfect. So the ideal heat pump temperature for winter in New Zealand is 18 to 21 for daytime use.

This is a huge, can I say that's only 3 degrees, but that is a massive. It's a big, right? And 16 to 18 for nighttime to balance comfort and energy efficiency. Summer, you should aim for between 24 and 26 degrees in cooling mode to save energy. I'm sorry. What? I don't have a heat pump so I can sit and sweltering conditions as well. It's 19 degrees a year round.

19's lovely, yeah. Even 19 in the genuine sense, when you go outside, you say 19 degrees, it's quite nice. It was nice. If there's no wind. You're lovely with no wind. And there's wind, it's going to need to be a little bit warmer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A windshield factor.

But 19 degrees in the sun shining. I can't believe that 22 in the car. That's insane. That's too hot. I just don't think we're ever going to agree because everyone runs differently. I'm just going to hit the text machine for some thoughts and prayers here.

Oh yes, yes. Nick, you are an animal. Oh, what's he running at 26? If he says 23 or something. 31. What? Surely that's a typo. Nick, if you mean 21, please correspond immediately.

Yeah, 31. At the moment, we hate you. 31's falling asleep on a drive in winter and running off the road. Like, you're falling asleep. 31's like hot dead dog in the back of the car. car. You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm sorry, no.

Somebody said it's got to be 18, 20 or 22 because they won't do odd numbers on their air conditioning. I get that. Well, you do have to go 20. Okay. We've got a couple of 22s in the car right now. Someone said my husband has his truck on 28 degrees as high as it will go. No, but he's probably in trucker shorts. You know what the balls poking out? God he'll have sweaty balls at 28. He will have the sweetest balls. That hot air blowing on his balls is drying out his balls. 28 in a truck, that's insane That's insane

Kill me, honestly Oh no At 26, someone's like It's 26 year round No A lizard on a rock Trying to digest a small insect Play ZDN's Fletchhorn and Haley

Hey Haley I'm in your hometown homie Yeah you're in the bloody What is it called the Metropolis The O3 Why did you laugh at that? I don't think anyone calls this one. I've never heard anyone call Christchurch the metropolis.

No, that's usually what they say about Morrinsville, isn't it? The Metropolis. Georgia, please don't come from my hometown. We're going through his in tough times. Well, Haley, broadcasting from our Crouchardt Studio this morning. I am. I actually wonder, is, you know, you're in a relationship, Georgia. Well, she's married.

It's slightly more formal. Is it? Just piece of paper. Just piece of paper in a party and a pretty dress. So this is a theory that, this was. came up in 2003 and we talked about it then and it kind of disappeared very quickly

and now it is back with a vengeance as one of like the biggest relationship trends online TikTok Instagram everyone's talking about it the bird theory do you remember this Georgia remind me of I think the bird theory is it's a test that you would do to your partner

and what you do is you point out something trivial for example I saw a bird today or look at that bird there's a bird and then how they respond tells you more about them

than just whether or not they looked at the bird. Do you remember this at all? Yeah, I do this with Caz. Okay. But are you doing it as a conscious test? So basically what you're testing is to see the way that they respond.

If they turn towards, which would be a turn towards the bird, as the psychologist call it, it's a partner who's genuinely wants to engage with you, curious about you and your interest. It doesn't matter that it's a trivial thing. They're just immediately their knee-jerk reaction

is to be like, oh yeah, what bird is it? Or why do you like that bird? Yes, form. I put my hand up because I've got a question and I didn't want to talk over you. Well, thank you very much. I respect that. Yes, form.

My special form of, shall we say, tism is birds. Okay. I love them. So I would look at any bird. I saw an ostrich in a paddock at the weekend and I pulled over and I was like, what are you doing here?

Right. I talked to it. But so, Ron, you're, but you could use this test and you'd say, you could test it on friends as well, be like, there's an ostrich. Now, I might go, knowing. Who's not going to be like? What's you doing here?

Yeah, that's a bad test. I've never been in a place where an ostrich seems like it's in its natural environment. If anyone points out an ostrich, I'm looking. Okay, okay, so because you love birds so much, yours wouldn't be birds. You could say something like, that's a lovely sidewalk. And then how your partner or your friend responds.

Wait a minute. I want to see this sidewalk. Is it smooth enough to skateboard on? You're too spectrum for this. Yeah, Hayley, that's not going to work. with Vaughn. You can be like, look at anything. I'd be like, what, where?

Anything. So the response, that they turn towards or turn away, tells you a little bit more than just whether or not they're into the bird, right? What if your partner's just on their phone and you're like, oh yeah? Then that is, that tells you that they're just that they're more dismissive or indifferent to you and that they'll be less likely to get invested in all the little moments that make a good relationship and maybe just do a few grand gestures and the rest of the time be quite absent. But what if they're hot?

well then that's different There's another category Different rules apply It's different how hot they are Hot people get away with everything If I said to a brown person With bright eyes They've lost them

They're done If I said to a brown person with bright eyes Oh look at that bird And they said shut up I don't care about birds I'll be like you're right You're right Who even care

I don't even know why I brought up the bird Oh I'm busting For a wheeze after that podcast, I'll tell you. It's a podcast. You are allowed to listen to it while you're weeks. There's no rules on when and where you're allowed to listen to a podcast. It just says here, I'm busting for a wheeze. I read it, okay?

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