ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Big Pod - September 17th 2025

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

On today's episode of the Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley Podcast, we reveal the Coachella line up and when did you go somewhere just for it to be closed. Listen more to find out. Stone skimming scandal Long winded apologies Top 6 - Signs a man did your weekly shop Justin's family rule SLP - Do you know your parents' inheritance plan? Secret Sound Reveal Shannon's Hack Lucy Score Interview Coachella lineup When did you go somewhere just for it to be closed? Fact of the day Hayley is taking over from Vaughan Tinder now requires video verification See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

From the ZDM podcast network This is Fleshwoman and Haley's Big Pod Thanks to animates Making Happy Happen for Pets There is a cheating scandal Rocking He's pleased with himself

What has rocked The World Stone Skimming Championships Didn't realize that was a thing Neither did I until I read this article From the BBC So you know it's a Legit news story Well I mean you're a Kiwi male

You'll love to skim a stone Last skim to stone When are they all at the You know the blue poles And Macarora? Yeah, yeah Yeah Out of Wanica, like an hour

Out of Wanica It's a beautiful. I have never been Oh my God, it's beautiful I don't know how to skim a stone Oh my God, you simply must How many skips did you get? Five or six

So the World Stone Skimming Championships Are more than 2,200 people From 27 countries attended this year's event. It's on a tiny island off Eastdale, which is off the west coast of Scotland. It's in an old quarry which was flooded

by a tidal wave. I'm having a look at the pond now. So it's quite big, it's quite I guess it's quite sheltered. Yes. Because you need a good perfect flat. I mean, ideally you want a perfect glassy flat. Yeah, South Island would be perfect for some skimming. South Island is great for skimming.

Well, they should. We should do it in the South Island. Well, they should do our own thing. Well, the organiser Dr Kyle Matthews has told the BBC that there were suspiciously circular rocks. We've got fake rocks. Well, so what they do is they've got a metal ring. Stones, people are allowed to find their own. They've got to be island slate.

They've got to be rocks from the island. Yeah. And they've got to be under three inches diameter. Yeah, okay. And what they do is they pass them through a metal ring to make sure they're not bigger. Too big, yeah. Because everybody has to have the same size or less.

otherwise it's not fair and they said he's also by the way he's this Dr Matthews guy is known as a toss master He's the toss master So he's in charge Of the rocks being tossed

He said they didn't notice at the time But then it just kind of started becoming apparent that people had made their rocks more circular So they've smoothed them off Which is not allowed and when they did hit up their contestants a lot of them did put their hands up and say

oh yeah sorry oh wait so more than what yeah so several people had kind of I mean it's not like it's not like an Olympic you know competition or some kind of it's just like some community event I'm just trying to like watch some of it from the champs yeah

because I'm looking at these little slaty flat rocks lovely little discs yeah something that you'd find in Central Otago like you know in the South Island yeah yeah yeah the winners is the first time in Americans one, 177 metres. So it's not just how many times you skim.

How far it goes before it sinks. Apparently you've got to have at least two skims before the rock sinks. Oh, embarrassing if you just... Oh, three skims, sorry. Yeah, I'm embarrassing if you just threw it and it's went, boom. Yeah.

So I guess you've got to kind of get low, but... Because I've never worried about distance. If you're on a river or whatever, you don't care... You're just going for boops. I thought it would be about boops. I'm having a look at some of it.

of these are, I wonder if the women partake and if it's separated into gender. Yeah, I don't know. Or if it's just... Having a look at some of the techniques here, squatting low, getting low to get flat to the surface seems to work. I've just never been able to do it. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, because I try it with boulders. And they just don't skim the same. And they sort of go, point. Yeah, yeah. I think you've got to select a bit of stone.

Right. Is that where I'm going wrong? Yeah, I think that's where you're going wrong. So I was like, bigger skips, bigger boulder. I'm hiffing boulders in. We'll stop at a river one day and I'll teach you. Do you know what I'd really like that? It'd be a really nice brother-sister moment. Why didn't your brother do this?

Yeah, I don't know. We haven't. When you were allowed to play, surely the lower heart rivers, perfect for skimming. Yeah, yeah, the heart river would be great. No, we were more creek-based. Oh, yeah, okay, yeah, right, that's fair. Play Z-M's, Flashbourne and Haley. So apparently, if you need to apologize and you want it to come across the sincere,

You want the apologisee to be, to really feel it. Okay. A long-winded apology is seen as far more sincere. Because if you do shorter apologies, they seem a little bit blunt, like you haven't put enough thought into them. Now, are you talking about a celebrity that posts an apology on Instagram, or are you talking about a husband that gets caught cheating? Hi, this is a video I never thought I'd have to make. I have been reflecting on my behaviour.

Oh my God, shut up. Shut up. I know. Then how long is too long it gets into like a grovelling kind of mode? I'm really going to learn from this moment. Like, shut up. So longer, yeah,

longer apologies are perceived as more sincere effort in language. So using longer words and phrasing. But then also like... Suggest genuine remorse. But then it's also tiptoeing into the Has Chat, GPT wrote this because they don't normally say these words? Funny you say this because I just thought then maybe I'll get chat GPT

to help me write a long-winded apology for a fake scenario. Okay. Make the, I'm just making some changes. Make the wording more intellectual, I'll say. Intellectual, okay. So I've just chucked into chat GPT for example so that we can have an example

of a long-winded apology. So is this, did the study find it was face to face? Face to face. Using phrases like, I didn't mean to answer like that. Or like, that's not how I said it. It becomes very hostile. So I'm sorry that you feel that way. Okay.

I'm sorry that you feel that way. Daryl, you did cheat on me with four women. Yeah. I'm sorry that you feel that way, Trisha. Yeah, yeah. I literally walked in on you sleeping with another man. Well, I'm sorry that's how you saw things. They did also, yeah, look into apologies in the real world

like celebrity apologies, on average five times longer than their regular messaging or tweets or like posts. Yep, okay. Anyway, so I chucked a fake scenario into chat GPT. Okay. Make it more like I'm saying it to his face. Sorry, it's just... Okay, so the scenario that I put into this is that I said,

can you write me a long-winded apology, and I've made it more intellectual and more face-to-face, for us a fake scenario. Hey, Fletch, I just need to say something, and I honestly don't know if words are going to be enough. Okay. But I have to try. Okay.

I am so incredibly sorry for what happened to Major Marie for the pain that I have caused you. What did you do? I cannot even begin to imagine what you're feeling right now, but please believe me when I say, I have been replaying this moment in my head constantly and the guilt is overwhelming. Major Murray was not just a pet.

He was a presence. Anyone who spent more than five minutes in your place could tell that. He had this strange, majestic, almost absurd level of self-importance. Like he owned the place and you were just lucky to be in it and honestly, the fact that I have killed him

is riddling me with guilt. I get it now how deep your connection was. Right, okay. The fact that I was the one responsible, even if unintentionally, is something I'm struggling. struggling to live with. Right. Are you worried that this will, you'll have to make this apology one day when you're drunkenly stepping on my cat at two in the morning? I've turned that

moment over Fletch, over and over in my mind, trying to figure out where exactly I failed, what decision, what moment, what lapse allowed this to happen and I just keep coming back to the same conclusion. It was my responsibility. No excuses, no deflecting. I was careless, distracted. Oh, insert drunk or simply not thinking clearly because of that you have lost someone you love. It literally goes on for three more paragraphs. So if you do... Wow. I mean, that was pretty good.

I'll give you that. That was pretty good. I mean, you were probably... You're acting probably helped. Listen to this. If there is something Fletch, that I can do to honor him or to support you through this, I will do it without hesitation.

Whether that means giving you space, helping you put together a small memorial or just sitting with you in silence, I need you to know I am here with no ego and no defenses. Wow. Okay. That? Well, it went on. I mean, it was good apology.

I mean, it was very long-winded. I think at some point you'd be like, it's fine, just please get out. Yeah, just stop talking. Just leave me alone. I don't want to be... I think there's a sweet spot of not going on too long,

but also not being too short. It did feel good to do, though. Yeah. It was a little bit sort of like self-aggrandizing, and I liked that. Play Z-M's Fletch Vaughan and Haley. From the Fletch Vaughan and Haley group chat, this is the top six.

Get out of our group chat. in lieu, in the absence of Vaugh today I will be taking over the top six and addressing the fact that our research out of Australia shows that 44% of men, no, sorry, 44% of household shoppers are now men, like the main grocery buyer. Yep. Men are making up 44% of them,

which is a huge increase over the last five years in Australia. Makes sense. We got jobs now. Everyone's got a job. We ladies, we got the job. now. We can't always do it. A lot of couples still go together. You see couples at the supermarket. It's like, no, we don't

want the, we're to get the cheaper one. Cannot stand it. No. Like, let me be, let me do my thing. I've got it. Like, you go get your things, I'll get my things. I've always been the grocery buyer. I mean, I just, I like it, but I enjoy doing groceries for some people that's such an arduous task. Yeah.

They're like, eh, I don't want to do it. Whereas, like, I really like it. I peruse the aisles. I buy too much. Get the specials. Get the specials. Yeah. things, take my time, you know I listen to music. Yeah. But men, they're stepping up. So I've got the top six signs that a man has done your weekly shop.

Number six on the list, there's every size of tampon in the cart because he doesn't know if the size indicates the size of the vagina or the heaviness of the flow, so we just got three of each. And you just figure it out, right? By the way, guys, it's the flow, not the vagina. No, no, no, no, no, not my girl.

It's the flow. Number five on the list of the top Signs in a man has done your weekly shop. There's exclusively bar soap because it's always worked and the shower gel as Mrs. Bines is a bit puffy. You know what I mean? Oh, you get turning up to bloody on the site

and smell like bloody lavender and coconuts. I haven't looked back going to liquid soap. Oh, I know. Like, when's the last time you used bar soap? Unless it was like a hotel. When I was in a man's shower and I was like, where's the soap? And he was like, there it is. And I was like, far apart. This is going to

dry me out like a biscuit. Number four on the list of the top six signs that a man has done your weekly shop. You've asked him to buy six chicken thighs for your slow-cooked curry but there's just three bachelor's handbags. He's right, there are six chicken thighs but he has been fingering at it on the drive home.

Of course. I love to finger. I will say I love bloody pull-in-a. No, you've got to wait till you're home because the juices go everywhere. Yeah, I love it. Number three on the list of the toxic signs that a man has done your weekly shop.

You've asked for flowers, so he's bought self-raising and stand. not what I meant but that's okay I'm by my own number two in the list of the top six signs that a man has done your weekly shop there is a three pack of Rio undies in your shop because he didn't realize that the super digrots

and three for 15 bucks that's pretty hard to walk away from yeah and number list number one on the list of the top six signs that a man has done your weekly grocery shop there's two liters of stock standard beef milk in there because where do you even milk a blood

nut from anyway. Don't get him started on oats. It's PC gone mad. Play. Z-M. Fletch, Vaughn and Haley. Haley, while she blows their nose. Hang on. You need to talk for a second. I've really I've loosened my morning boogies. I'm going to turn my mic off.

Have fun with yourself. Okay, okay. Did you turn it back on? I did, yeah, I did. It's real boogie in there. Hang on, let me. I just need to do one of those in camera checks. Just to make sure you never know. Oh, you're front-facing camera just to make sure there's no boogers.

Hi, guys. Yep. We're back. We're not falling apart without Vaugh. Vaughan's away today. Okay, let's talk. We're going to talk about this a little bit later, but Justin Bieber's playing Coachella. He is, yeah, one of the headliners.

Have you got a Justin Bieber song lined up for me? Play my favourite one. I think it's one of the most iconic Justin Bieber's of all time. Do you want me to do it? It's one of my favorites of all time of Justin Bieber because of the time that he popped up at a club and they were like, get on the mic! And he didn't know the lyrics.

Yeah, it is. It was like, um, nam, nam, nam, nam da ripo. Oh, you are. Surely weekend one or the week two, weekend two, he's bringing them on stage, right? Oh, absolutely. So the... I think he peaked at Despicito.

So the reason we're talking about Justin Bieber, we'll talk more on Coachella later, but the reason we're talking about Justin Bieber is he's posted on his Instagram the rules that he sets for his family in their house. And this comes sort of like on the backlash of people kind of questioning their marriage because remember he said to his wife,

Haley Bieber, that should never be on the cover of Vogue? and everyone was like, e-e. Yeah. A bit mean, and then they haven't looked at that happy for a while. I mean, he's been through his own. Anyway, and he's come out with a new album, and everyone's like, everything's good. So he shared that he has 10 rules, almost commandments.

10. Sparito. Apologi to our Spanish list is. Okay, so, yeah, and they're framed, so he has them on the wall. Okay. Why are the 10 commandments? Just like the 10 commandments. moments.

Pretty godly actually. Yeah, yeah. He's got a big son of God tattoo across his belly, so you don't hope he's a man of God. All right, the Bieber family rules as framed on the walls of the Bieber household. Number one, we value rest as worship. Oh, okay.

Big fan of sleep. I don't. Yeah, big sleep guy. Number two, we value longevity and a sustainable pace of life. I mean, that feels similar to one. Yeah, like just sleep. It's a sustainable place of life, a big fan of sleep.

So we've got sleep. Number three, on the list of the Bieber family rules, we value quality and excellence of production. Oh, okay. What, like good quality songs? Good, good quality songs like Despacito. Okay. Bebe, baby.

Number four, we value innovation and moving the human experience forward. These sound like rules that would be hung at a work, like a creative work space. Like a marketing agency. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. All right, Sachi and Sachi. Well, I want everyone to remember we value innovation moving the human experience forward.

Yeah. That one, I hate that one. Anyway, number five, we value health and physical wellness as an act of stewardship. Oh, I like that. Yeah, this is good. We'll sleep and physical activity. So that's sleep.

So we've got our fourth sleep on the list. I'm on board with these. Number six, we value, well, you could print them off and frame them for you and must. Yeah, I don't know if I will. Major Murray. Number six, we value, oh no, we've lost you here, we value sustainability. What do you mean?

Barely recycles. We value sustainability. Well, that's because it all ends up at the tip, Haley. You're just wasting your time. We value sustainability in creating products that serve humanity. Now, sustainability, absolutely. What products have the Biba's created that serve humanity? I don't understand.

Yeah, again, that sounds like... Other than Despacito. It would be on, like, the wall of, you know, some kind of hemp shoe company. Hemp shoes, yes. Hemp shoe company, they can take that one. Number seven, we value servanthood in making people feel like they can fly.

Okay. Number eight, we value generosity and graciously giving time, money, and respect to people on our path. I like that one. Just helping people out along the way. Number nine, are you going to loop Despacito? Yep, absolutely.

The short song that I remember. Number nine, we value life as a good. gift and practice daily gratitude for the day that has been given to us. I like that. Yeah, that's good. Can every day is a blessing. And the 10th commandment of the Bieber family rules, we value human beings and believe

in their dignity and eternal worth. Like, for example, your wife could be on the cover of Vogue. She could be. She could be. If she wanted to be. They're a bit, they're a bit, yeah. Do you know what? What? A bit what? Humiless.

Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah. If those were your 10 rules, there'd be a funny one in there, wouldn't there? Like, don't touch Haley's biscuits. And number 10 would be like, we value a glass of wine at the end of the day, above all. Play ZM's Fletchborn and Haley. Play ZM's

Fletch Vaughan and Haley. Relax Fon and Haley. Silly little Poe. It is so silly, silly, silly, silly that silly little poe, silly little poor, silly little poe, silly little Well, in the coming years, the transfer of wealth from the older generation to the younger generation will happen because a lot of them are dying.

Indeed. That's the circle of life. And there was a big survey done in the UK, and a lot of Gen X are relying on inheritance to fund their own retirements, so basically when their parents die. So your Gen X would be kind of around 45 up. 44 to 59. You're on the cusp, maybe. You've got big millennial energy.

So that's interesting. Just relying on the death of their parents. And in the UK, they've got an inheritance tax, eh? So you've got to pay, like, even when you die you have to pay, like, that's crazy. That sucks. Yeah. So we asked, on our silly little poll, do you know your parents' inheritance plan? Because 27% of millennials said they don't know their parents' plans.

Mm-hmm. I don't know if there's a Gen X. But that's like a third. A third say they don't. I don't. I'm a millennial. I have no idea. I don't.

It's not my plan. I don't care. No. I don't think anyone should plan on inheriting anything. There's things I want and I'm going to start stickering the home. You know what I mean? I don't know if now is the time to start stickering the home. Every now and then I'll take off some of my mum's rings and I'll be like, can I just try them on?

I'm like, good fit. All right. And she puts it back on and there's a sticker on it. She's like, what the bloody I'm saying? Hayley. Do you know your inheritance, your parents' inheritance plan? We asked, real close. 47%?

Yes, I do. 53% no I don't. Wow, okay. Some comments from Alice's Tripti. Always messaging in. Tripti, I don't need to. They earned it if they need to spend it on themselves. They've already given me the privilege of education,

courage and strength to be what I want to be and make a name for myself. That's pretty sweet. That's nice. That's beautiful. I feel exactly the same. Serena says, does knowing they... Williams? No, Simmons. Okay. Just wondered if the tennis player was listening, that's all.

Oh, she's listening, but this is not the Serena we've heard from. Right, okay. We know Serena Williams is a huge fan of the podcast on the I Heart Radio app. Ding! I'm... It's way over there. It's so far away from him. I'm not pressing it. I can't be bothered with the walk.

I'll go around. Okay. Okay. Serena Williams listens. on the iHeart radio app That was good You cut the bell short And that's a crime There we go

Serena says Does knowing they have no money And thus no plans count As knowing the plans Because then yes I do Yes, okay it does Yeah Danny says no sadly

They won't talk about it It's a bit concerning With three kids A farm And an older sibling Who's got a lot of control And takes advantage Of our parents

Oh that always gets messy A That's why you hope That your parents Have got a good plan Got a good will Yeah got a good will I know

Do you still have to get a will? Put that on your list. What do you mean, put it on my list? It's been there since 2023. Maybe put it to the top of the list. I've got more exciting things on the list. Amy says, yes, I'm an only child, so I kind of need to know the plan. I'm also there, EPOA, executive...

Power of attorney. Power of attorney. Yeah, I'm a power of... Are you power of attorney? I am the power of attorney when it comes to... money and stuff my brother's the power of attorney when it comes to health like pull the plug

oh because you're too emotional I'm too emotional yeah yeah okay better with money though you guys should talk about powers of attorney more well that's what we're doing right now so message received amen so important for people to have one in place makes decisions for them once you're gone

Jordan I'm happy to for a fee be the health power of attorney for any family yeah me too because my number one rule is I'll pull the plug I'll trip, oh, I tripped over it. Whoopty doopty, you tell me. I mean, you don't physically have to pull the plug. You just have to make the call.

Oh, no, I'm putting my hand on the court. Oh, okay. You'll actually go to the hospital and pull it out. Yeah, my family, we've got a deal. Jordy says, one mill to me and one mill to my sister. I get both mum and dad's wedding rings and the smeg spoon rest. Thank God that's been sorted. Okay, wow, okay.

And my sister gets... Wait, they literally just collected the stickers to get the spoon rest. from Smeg a new world like a month ago. Yeah, I know, but that's already in the world. It's in the world. Because I didn't get one I'm a star and I am gutted. You're gutted, yeah. One mil to my sister, I get both my dad's wedding rings and the Smeg Spoon rest.

My sister gets mum's engagement ring in the battery operated kettle. But also you can't live your life thinking you're getting a million dollars because your parents could end up like needing care and like... Yeah, I'll tell you what care would soon eat away at that. Another Amy says, kind of I'm gearing up for the fight with my brother who hasn't, who hasn't spoken to me, all my mother in years, his greedy hand will come flying out of his pocket for his

supposed share. Wow. Sophie says, Anonymous. Okay, well. Don't read that one up. Sophie said Anonymous, and I just said it. Bronte Bronte said, we've been told there's no

money, and I hope they're lying. Tash says, yes, I'm the executive of both of their wills, and sole child for my mum. one of two kids for my dad and Kaya says no but I'm assuming that I'll get nothing due to the level of crippling debt my mum is in

yeah yeah no you won't get nothing you'll get that debt oh yeah right I would what's that break up from your mum oh emancipation emancipate yourself so that you don't get that debt is that a thing can you do that yeah mom's on her deathbed

you're like quick let's end this get her hand get a limp hand be like sign this we're emancipated bye I don't even know you and then the bank can just take care of that debt. Yes. So for today's silly little poll, we ask you, do you know your parents' inheritance plans? And 53% of you said no. Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley. ZM's $50,000 secret sound. Guess the sound win the cash. Secret sound is all thanks to Neon. Binge the best at neontv.com.com. I will. Now yesterday, what was with the

Special guess The special guess And you said that this was That people would remember this person's name So I've already forgotten the girl's name ironically But I remember the guess I remember the guess I can tell you that

What was the guess It was cracking Dubai chocolate Which For a lot of people Would have struck a nerve Right Cracking Dubai chocolate Fletch and I

Fletch and I admitted We haven't actually tried Dubai chocolate Oh my God you might I think I've had a rip off of it because it's pistachio goo, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, should be goo. I love the texture. It's like, what kind of hayy?

Like, a cow would love that stuff. Right. Well, I would love it. Emma, good morning. Welcome to Secret Sound. Hi. Did that help you yesterday hearing that? Not really because I already knew what it was.

She's locked and loaded. Oh, wow. You think, this is the thing. People come on Secret Sound and they're like, like that woman the other day, like already spent the money and she wasn't even close. I've got it. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to get a new vehicle and I'm going to do this

and then I'll put... And you're like, okay. She's already brought it. She's just waiting for the money to come and to pay it off. How sure are you that you know the secret sound, Emma? I'm so 100% sure. Oh, here we go. How long have you known it? Since last week. Basically

me and my partner were sitting in bed and we were talking about it and then once it clicked in my head that it was something that you could eat. I was like, this is it, bro. All of the... I love when my missus calls me, bro. That's my favourite part.

It's her little pet name. This is it, bro. Well, Emma, for $50,000, tell us what this sound is. The sound is cracking open a pistachio. It's not even, I think. It's the sound is for Emma. Cracking open a pistachio, like the nut, to the actual shell of the nut.

Which, from what you said yesterday, would make that very close. Oh my God, can you play it again? Because, man, I, I mess with a pistachio. Do you? Second nut. What's your favourite? It's controversial, it's war nut.

I don't want to get into it. Good for brain health. You just screw up your face at me, Carwin. Beautiful nut. I just buy the pistachios already out of the shell. Oh, you pay. That's so crazy. You pay.

I don't know the sound. I don't know that sound. Emma, you don't. You're just suck the shells. That's part of the fun. Goodness. And it's Russian relief because some of the shells have nothing in them and you're like, oh, bummer, I've done all this work.

Yeah. Emma, did you test out the, did you do a live rendition of the sound? Because pistachios, you're pretty accessible. No, I didn't. I have eaten pistachios before, but the way that we confirmed it was we watched ASM of people eating pistachios. Oh, wow. Okay.

Can you send me that link because, firstly, I love ASMR. I got you. I got you. Thank you. Emma, you sound so sure that you know what this is. It's a lot of money, $50,000. What would you do with it? Oh my gosh. We would pay off debts. We would go traveling.

Like me and my partner, we're still young. We want to get married. Like, there's so much we can do with that. I've been making people promise with the 50K. Can you at least save, like, I don't know, 2,000, 3,000 for yourself? Emma, just to splash out, like, have one day. You just fully. treat yourself.

Hell, yeah. I can promise that. And I also promise that if I am definitely right, I'll buy you a pack of pistachios. Hang on now, because sometimes they're like 15 bucks. Yeah, that's a lot of money. That's a lot. Ah, but if I was right, would I want to see a pistachio ever again in my laugh after of this big old

DM? This is true. She's going back to walnuts, baby. Maybe I want a walnut. Okay, Emma, are you ready to lock this in? Yes. Are you sure? Yep, 100%.

Wow. Can I just see where are you at the momento? Are you in bed with the nurses? No, I'm out in my lounge because we wanted to listen to eye heart on my computer. Oh, ding. Ding the bell. Thank you for taking off the KPI.

It's a KPI there for the company. It's pushing the app. Yeah, okay. Take us with you wherever you go. Bro. Emma, my bro. Let's lock it in. Is Zetium's secret sound.

Cracking a pistachio. Emma? Yep. You have just cracked the case. You are $50,000, Richard. Oh, my God! Yes, Emma! Oh, my God!

Oh, my God. You've won $50,000. Oh, my God. Deep breaths, deep breaths. Emma! Oh, my goodness. Thank you guys so much. Emma, I was like, I'm sorry, but I love it when people are super, super confident and then they're wrong.

Just coming out, like, I'm in the lounge, baby. We're ready to celebrate. Emma, $50,000 is yours. How do you feel? I feel insane. Oh, my God. I'm literally shaking. And is anyone at home to celebrate with you, any of the kids?

Yeah, my partner is sitting down in absolute belief. Yeah, my bro. Just damp them up. Bro, hey, should we talk to the bro? Sure. Can we talk to the boyfriend? Hello? Are you there, bro?

Yeah, I'm there, bro. She was right. You guys just won $50,000, bro. No, I can't believe it I can't hear Emma's little giggles in the back Crack yourself open a cold one And by that I mean a pistachio Yeah, I love that cold pistachio

Oh wow Oh wow And the rest of our Tedoa Thanks you as well for finally cracking this case Because I know it's been on a lot of people's nerves I want to say Emma Someone text in when you made your guess Saying pistachio

And they said, that's not it. And then you just won $50,000. And they text back, oh, sorry, Emma. We'll call that person back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, that's incredible. Well, congratulations, Emma. All thanks to Neon, season 14 of Secret Sound,

you have won the $50,000. And it was cracking open. A pistachio. Was the whole time, baby. Well done, Emma. Thank you so much. Do you want to hear that sound anymore? No, get it away. Get it away.

Turn it up. I never want to see those green little demons in my life. Shall we, because so many people are invested, shall we give Emma a little time with the pro to sit with yourselves and digest the fact that you are now $50,000 richer? Literally, how am I supposed to go to work? Don't. Don't.

Don't. I can call in sick today. Yeah. We'll call your boss. Send the number. We'll call them. Give your boss. Let us call them.

Yeah, we'll sort that out. Yeah, we'll sort that out. But let's go through the call. clues next. Yeah. And, yeah, for everybody that has been living the secret sound for weeks and going crazy. It's done. It is all done. All thanks to Neon.

Binge the best at NeonTV.com. Play ZM's Fletchforn and Haley. Well, the secret sound has been guessed correctly. $50,000 cash. And you will never look at a pistachio nut again. Because that's what it was. It was a pistachio nut cracking open. Cracking open a pistache.

Man. Up close. Now, Emma, Hi. We've got your dad on the phone. Andre, good morning. Come in, Dad. How are you, Andre?

Oh, my God. Do you know what's happened? That is amazing. Did you always know that Emma was going to amount to big things when she was at, like, knee-high to a grasshopper? You know what? I've always been so very proud of my child. And I love you.

She has always been phenomenally lucky with things like this. And for the last two weeks, we have been sitting here going, well, if anyone's going to win, it's going to be Emma. Wow, the confidence. I love the confidence. You've instilled that confidence in Emma because she rung just being like, this is it.

Yeah. She's got that lucky girl syndrome, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it is. Yes, she has won $50,000, André. Oh, my God. Oh, my. What do you think she's going to spend it on?

Oh, congratulations. I'm absolutely blown away. Andre, and do you live close to your daughter, Emma? No, we live in Nelson. Oh. And Emma, where are you? In Auckland. Oh, yeah.

Okay, okay. Well, I mean, you've got a little bit of cash, can you get a flight. You know, have a little celebration. You can afford lots of flights home now. Yeah. That's for sure. Well, yeah, Andre, we just wanted to let you know the news. Emma has won our $50,000 secret sound. And so expect a good Christmas present this year. Or expect a lovely wedding.

Yeah. Oh, no, she's the best Christmas present we could have asked for. Oh, that's cute. That's cute. It is. Well, Andre, thank you. We're going to just Spend some time now with you, Emma, going through the clothes with Soundkeeper Brooke. Okay. Emma, and it'll be interesting to notice if you check these offers as well.

Our first big clue was leaning into nature. Yeah, we wanted to give the impression that it wasn't like man-made kind of thing. Because I immediately, when I first heard it, I thought it was electrical. Yeah, like an electrical switch or something. Did you think the same, Emma? Yeah, I figured it out from the Morse code. and I actually spent like two hours trying to work out that Morse code and then going, I can't work out Morse code, I'm just going to call my dad

and he helps me to figure it out. I think a lot of New Zealanders learnt Morse code for some random reason now and that's just a skill that they've... So what did the Morse code say? The Morse code spelt nature. Right, okay. But I often said, oh, due to the nature of this case or I got a call from Mother Nature and I was weeing all the time.

Right, okay. So really laying it thick that this is something natural nature made. That was our first major clue. And then, God bless, if you remember my wife, Deline and I, and we had kid old Watts's face. Deline and I split. And we were one and then two. And I broke her heart and she said I couldn't put it back together again.

So we are the pistachio shell. And old Watts' face is the actual pistachio himself. All right. I think though my favourite clue Would have been all these other characters Actually spelt out the word almond So I was side girl, Andy Another side girl, Lisa

How do you spell almond? O. M? My boat, message in a blowhole. O. O, old Watts's face the kid. N. N. Nancy, the lady I'm seeing now. N D. Dene. Wow, so we're headed into Nut Territory.

Yeah, okay. nether regions. But Emma, you said that the nature clue was what got you across the lane. Was it? No, so I was really hooked on the fact that it could be a camping item after you had said that the extender poles were a good one. Oh. So I really thought it was something to do with nature.

But then I started thinking, okay, something small, you know, I'm trying to think of, I scrubbed the naked gun. three times over. Great fun. So how was the naked gun? They're sitting in their car, spying on someone eating pistachios, but pistachios used to be red.

They used to dye them red. So I think a lot of people didn't think that those were the pistachios, but they are. Oh, wow, okay. And then Friends, pistachios is a new business idea, and then Kirby's enthusiasm.

He's sitting there apologising to someone chowing down on some pistachios. So I feel like those three neon clues also solidified it for a lot of people as well. Great. Did you get all of those, Emma? Not all of those. I kind of went down a different rabbit hole

that sort of led to the same thing. Okay. Like how there was a reoccurring 725, 725. Yeah. Like 72 love letters and 5 o'Ks of flowers. So I thought, okay, how can I make a multiplication out of this? And when reversed, it's 5 times 2 is 10 minus 7 is 3.

and the type of dye that they used on the pistachios was red three. And that's exactly my thinking as well. I don't know how deep we were going. Yeah, that's what you wanted all along, wasn't it? Everything's on purpose. Yeah. Emma just lost her mind.

Yeah. Well, at least you are one of these callers that lost their mind but won. Yes. Not someone that lost their mind and didn't win. Exactly. Emma, congratulations. Emma, I just want to let you know because you know so many people have been invested on this journey and have thought they've known it

themselves. A lot of people wishing you a huge congratulations. Someone said I've been a real bitch recently but the hype up of someone finally winning. Secret Sound has absolutely hyped me up for the day. Congrats

M. I'm livid. I worked this out just yesterday after the Dubai chocolate guests. It's very satisfying that I knew it but even though I didn't win. Yeah. People now want to know, oh, congrats to Emma.

I don't usually get invested in the secret sounds, but I always cry when people win it. Very happy for you. That's nice. Congrats, congrats, but people want to know who's the online winner as well. The online winner was guest. This was the person that guessed it first. On the I-Heart radio app, Tasha from New Plymouth.

They get a thousand dollars. How long ago did Tasha guess it? Maybe the ninth? The ninth. Okay. So not too far. Because I remember last year, our $50,000 winner was that. Yeah.

She'd guessed it online first as well. Emma, $50,000 is all yours. Well done. Thank you so much. I'm actually so in shock. I will say, I will say as well, to take a moment for the ZM Close Friends Facebook group, they have been absolutely amazing and paramount to finding this all out together.

That is beautiful that you're going to be splitting it with everyone in that group. Emma, that's so generous. That's so beautiful and generous. I didn't hear her say that, actually, Haley. You know what Emma? A beautiful soul, nah. Enjoy you. That money's all yours. Congratulations. All thanks to Neon's secret sound season 14 has been one. Thanks to Neon, you can binge your best at neontv.com.com.com. It was a pistachio nut cracking open.

You're not going to work. work, A, Emma. We've clarified that. No. Well, I'm still thinking about it. I might just want to go in to rub it into people's faces. What do you do for a job, Emma? What do you do for a job? I'm an office coordinator. Nah, they can coordinate themselves. Yeah, surely they can coordinate themselves for one day. I feel like this is a testament to my problem solving skills.

Yes. I could put this on my CV. Oh, you should. I love it. Emma, congratulations. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Haley. Play ZDM's Fletchbourne and Haley I'm not usually in charge of this Yeah

Here we go If you see a spade a sign at the side of the road That says 15 miles to a Shannon's hat We really probably should record that properly We should get in the booth We've been saying it for at least a couple of days A long time. Yeah, long time.

Shannon, you've got a hack for us. You've had a good hack, and then you had a terrible run. You've had a terrible run since. Which, she presented her last one as the best hack ever. The suitcase at the supermarket. And it got two, didn't it, from us? It got absolutely slanded online as well. You know, Carwin sent me my horoscope this morning,

and it said, my ducks aren't in a row, but they're having fun. And, you know, I think that describes me as a human. The ducks are having a blast in your life. They're a scatigories. but man, it's fun to be a duck on the world. Totally lost. Yeah. No mother present.

No. No, a hack today, Fletch. I know you love fruit and vegetables. How much fruit would you say, Fletch, you eat between arriving at work and us coming off here at 9pm? Well, I have an apple. Today I have an apple, a kiwi fruit and four mandarin. Yeah, but that's almost low for you. Sometimes you'd hit a couple of kiwis.

Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, maybe. And cutting fruit can be really dangerous, especially if you're someone like me who's got poor knife control. Okay. It's a real square I lack. I mean, you are an adult. It should be okay by now.

Yeah, but if I'm without a chopping board, I get scared. Okay. I can't do an in hand chop. So today, I'm in studio. I've come, I'm sitting in Vaughn's seat. Yeah. And I've got for you, we've got a fruit knife as Fletch owns. Yeah.

A teaspoon and some tape. Some salad. Big cellar tape. Okay. Nice, beautiful. What I want you to do is get a big piece of tape. Okay. God, I just want to know she did cut the tape by poking it with the fruit knife.

I'm then going to grab a teaspoon and tape that to my thumb and now I have a spoon finger. Okay. Like I'm doing a thumbs up sign. And now it is a lot easier. I've got a corsette here. I'm going to chop. Oh, she's made somewhat of a thumb shield.

You've made a thumb shield? I can now chop directly into my hand. No risk of harm. Oh, she's about... Look, I could go banana now. Okay, go banana. Oh! So what she's done is she's taped the spoon.

To her thumb And like a taped on shield But like just put it on a chopping bottle No, I'm on the go Put it down on a plate Yeah I'm on the go So I'm going to sell a tape of spoon to my thumb

Yeah you're on the go But you've had time to fine tape And a spare spoon Tape it to your thumb Or your pocket But look how efficient this is man I mean if you were in the kitchen You were cutting and you were kind of

You know ready to go She does look quite I'm making salad up Special Whoa Mmm I hope you mean that in an endearing way I do, I do

Okay, but see you could just literally do that By putting it on the bench But I can't use the bench I'm at work I think you've made something more complicated Grab a plate from the kitchen No look at me, go In the speed I'm who

I mean the girl's making a banana corsette stir fry I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I feel like that's where this hack would thrive Look at this time we've been talking I've nearly finished a corsette

Yeah I mean, my accuracy of the sizes. I don't know. I think stop, because someone said, hang on, there's an adult using a knife cutting something towards her hand here. With safety, though. But look, I just did that whole cogette

normally I got myself. Someone just messaged, girl, you just discovered the thimble. Yeah, we do this. Yeah, we already have one of these. We have a thimble. You as a craft girl should know this. I have a thimble in my handbag, but most people don't, whereas you could have...

I don't think a thimble would be big enough to do what you were doing. unless it was longer. A spoonbill, yeah. Yeah, it would need to be a longer one. I just think, this solves a problem in my life, which therefore means it's a hack. I have now made you a cogette banana salad.

Yeah. I think... Are you going to cut this? Yeah. Yeah, you do it first. A hack, Shannon, is usually something that makes life easier. Yeah.

Because you're hacking the normal way of doing it by giving a little trick to make things easier. I agree. So what you have hacked is how to cut. fruit and or vegetables. So the hack should make that process easier. Yeah, and it did. What you've done is you've added a spoon, a big roll of tape.

Now you've got a spoon tape to your finger. Yeah. No cut finger, I will say, so it's not a zero. You know what I mean? Yeah, but you wouldn't have cut your finger if you'd just done it on the bench. I would cut my finger. If I was trying to cut towards myself, there would be blood. But you don't cut towards yourself.

Yeah. Now I will. Someone just said you always cut towards your friend and never towards. yourself. Easy hack. That's easier, yeah. Because then if you do miss, you'll hit your friend. You'll hit your friend and who cares for them? I'm giving it a one. It's a, I'll go a two because

it's so silly. That the thumb shield, the theory of the thumb shield I enjoyed. Okay. Well, shall I go, I feel bad now. Shall I go a two? I think it was a bit harsh. Two thumbs up. Two thumbs up. Well, you've only got one thumb shielded. You know what I mean? Please, I need this. One thumb up.

Yeah, yeah. Someone just won $50,000. Can you give me two stars? Okay, here's the theme song. Again. It's the outro. Two, we'll go to If you see a faded sign at the side of the road that says

It's two stars for the Shannon's hat. Two stars, baby. Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that's fair. Yeah. Play ZDM's Flesh, One and Haley. We are very lucky to be joined in studio by Lucy's score,

who has just arrived yesterday, I believe. That is true. You are a New York Times best-selling author. You've written so many books, one of which is now being developed into a TV series, but we can talk about that very soon. But welcome to the show, Lucy. Thank you for having me. I cannot believe that I'm here.

Have you been to New Zealand before? No, this has been on my bucket list since I was a kid, and I was just saying I can't believe that my books brought me here. Wow, that's almost about as far away from your home as you can get. It definitely feels that way. It makes a long time to get here. So you're here to do a one-off talk in New Zealand, which, guys, is being hosted by a...

very own producer carwin at carwin reads for her book recommendations so what is what's involved in the talk what are you what are you chatting about we are good well actually i'm not really sure i mean i just packed my suitcase and saw carwin's nails oh they're great they're themed off of my book things we never got over so uh yeah i can't wait to see what we're going to do so the book things we never got over that's the one that amazon amazon mgm is developing into um a series that I feel like for context by the way

you write steamy romance I do gentlemen have you read any of it I'm not a steamy romance guy I'm scared whereas I live love and breathe do you know actually though let's see I've I've taken a small break because I

was last year Akewin that I just went I just did nothing but listen to and read erotica of of morally great Like the whole spectrum. Morally by heroes, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

How, like, for you, how did you get into the world of erotica? Because I know you come from a, like a literary family, right? Oh, my gosh. Yeah, my mom was a librarian. She's retired now. My dad was a huge reader. So we would sit at the dinner table reading books. Really?

Yeah, other families would say that was so rude now. In our family, we were all reading. So you were the iPad kids before they were iPads. Exactly. Not talking. Yeah. So how is your family of, of, of, of, of, humble readers and librarians feel about your books that your scenes are definitely, I mean,

you're more, you know, you wouldn't go, you wouldn't, it's, you're more romance space, right? Right, right. But it is, the scene. The scene is. Oh, yeah. Well, that's the best part about my family, I think, because we've been such big readers, it's really easy for us to divorce the author from the work. Okay. So my dad reads my books. My uncle reads my books. We just don't, we don't, we don't talk about it, you know. Right, yeah. But surely are they like, where is she getting these ideas from? Do you, I mean...

Everywhere. Yeah, yeah, I have lived. Do you use, do you draw from your own personal experiences? Or is it all just a creative kind of imagining? It's both. It's both. I mean, I'm constantly, we were just over on Wahiki yesterday. Be it?

Oh, darling. Did you have a glass of wine? A glass of one and wine, hecky? I did. I did. I actually had quite a few. Okay. We look great today, don't worry about it.

And the bus driver, I actually have a note folder on my phone of all of the stories that he was sharing. I'm like, well, this is going in a book. This is hell, yeah. Wait, hang on a sec, because we've taken a few buses drunk home from the vineyards, haven't we? Yeah, it would be you. Her story is primarily about people who had transported. No, it was mostly, it's mostly about the island. I don't think he shared any stories about you guys in particular.

Because, man, I have been sloppy on those buses. I will not There's a lot of people who are not conscious on those buses Yeah Are there any books that you have Forbidden,

forbode your family from reading? No. Which given, I don't know If you've read forever, never But that one I probably should have Definitely tips into the grey area I just type things we never got over To Google

And one of the auto completes Was spicy chapters Yeah And then so I don't know I'm not on the book talk I'm not familiar with it, but people are like, okay, read them and then go back and read in the first book, 23, 26, 28, 38, the Spicey as Chapes.

I love that they're like, screw the storyline, guys. Yeah, yeah, I'll read it once and then revisit the best parts. If you want the sex, it's right here. Yeah, that's so interesting. Do you have a, I don't have any other word for it other than sex structure when you're writing your books, because obviously you've got to have good characters and a good arc and good drama to carry a story, but when you pepper in the spice, do you have a plan for that?

We're done with a kiss and we're ending with a Can't say it on radio? I think instead of peppering, it's more like just a liberal pouring of hot sauce just like everywhere. That's how I do it. I'm talking about my dinner. Of course, of course.

So just to quickly go back to things we never get over which is being developed to do a TV series. When can you tell us more? Because I'm saying I'm also, this is people ask you all the time who's getting cast and who's your dream cast for the different roles? This has been like really interesting. for me because as an author I'm like hey guys guess what I'm writing

I'm thinking about this I'm you know I get to be very straightforward with everything when it comes to Hollywood they're like shut up so there are things that are happening that I'm not allowed to share and I just it drives me crazy the women just want to be like who's the main

male care yeah let me Charlie Hunnam's a fan favorite oh I think Charlie Hunnam just get cast and everything that's slightly erotic because everyone's like wasn't he going to be the 50 Shades guy and then he wasn't. Oh yes. Yeah, he was.

Yeah, he was. I have extensive Charlie Hunnam knowledge. Yeah, you do. Some reason. Addoctorate. Yeah. Okay, so you can't tell us anything

about the cast. Can you tell us when we might know about the cast? I'm like, oh gosh. It's just New Zealand, Lucy. No one even knows we here. No, everybody, everybody knows about New Zealand.

Everybody's following this tour. No, I can't say that But I should have more information We're stepping in L.A. on our way home So for some We'll call us in there with us. Air quote meetings About some things.

Well, you've got a new book out in March called mistakes were made But we don't have to wait that long to hear from you We've got a double pass to give away. Yeah, a double pass to tonight show in Auckland As well as the sign set of your books And you can go to our Instagram story Right now to be in to win

FVHZM. Good luck for your chat. And good luck, producer Carwin. Don't stuff it up. She won't. I have faith. No pressure, no pressure, Carwin. I mean, you might have tiptoed up some of my questions, but it's fine.

Oh, well, you organise the interview. Now you've got to come up with some freshies. That's okay. I'll come up with some fresh answers. Yeah, good. Lucy, thank you so much for joining us. Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley. And Justin Bieber announces one of the headliners for Coachella,

which has been announced. Normally it's December, January. But this year, obviously it's only September, It was yesterday the 16th of September. And everyone's saying recession in Decatur. Oh, like plan ahead. Because like people just need more time to save and like to... Work out if they want to go with the line up.

Yeah. So Justin Bieber headlining the Saturday. Yes. Sabrina Carpenter headlining the Friday. And Carol G. Headlining the Sunday. I feel like it's missing a few. It's missing a little bit.

I was just having a look at, like, an article about the highlights of the lower lines. Yep. But, I mean, and this is probably just an indicator that I'm not very hip and cool. I don't really, I don't recognize a lot of the names on there. Yeah, and, yeah, I mean, every year's different. Yeah. I mean, yeah, Sabrina and Justin Bebel wouldn't have been cheap, though. Do you think they used all their money on them?

Probably. Teddy Swims is in there, friend of the show. Yes. Foster the people's in there. We love them. sombers in there the strokes are in there into Paul I mean there's a few

and then like you know as you get into those other lines as it is with every year I don't really But I feel like a lot of big names A lot of big names I don't do festivals now because they can just do their own tours

and make way more money Subtronics FK twigs like there's some great I mean it would be an amazing gig but yeah Carol G on the Sunday Justin Bieber on the Saturday

and Sabrina Carpenter on the Friday those are the big names for this year's Coachella. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Haley. Play ZM's Fletchbourne and Haley. We want to ask now, when you've gone somewhere, all the way somewhere, you've travelled somewhere,

you've gone a great distance, and it was closed. And especially if you've travelled overseas to see something. Yes, yeah, like big tourist destinations. Yeah, or you get there and there's like, I don't know, flooding or something, and you just can't go or whatever. Or like, um, uh,

go to a theme park for a certain ride and the rides closed? Yes. For maintenance? That happens like the big theme parks with their like premier rides. Yeah. People are gutted when that happens.

Yeah. Or they break down or something. So this has happened in Machu Picchu. Yesterday, Peru. I've never been. It's on my list. It looks incredible.

And so many, so many Kiwis have gone and done this in South America. Well, the locals are protesting the bus companies Right to travel, to transport tourists around. They were given a 30-year right to do that. Yeah.

And it's come up for renewal again, and they're not happy, so they're protesting. So they put logs and stuff on the train tracks. So tourists couldn't travel up to Machu. Because what I haven't been, but my understanding is you can either hike there for a few days or you take the train up. Oh, my God, why the hell would you hike? Take the train. Well, because some people like hiking.

Oh, who? Name me one person. I love hiking. Name me one. one person who actually enjoys it. So people are just like absolutely gutted because some people go there, they'll fly in and maybe have one or two nights there

and then go home. And so these people are like, well now I can't go to Machu and I've come all this. Like that's the reason you go to Peru. Yeah. Really? So someone just messaged in the bloody Louvre in France. Closed on a Tuesday. Who knew? Framed their whole trip around it. So a lot of, yeah, a lot

of places overseas do this. It'll be weird days or like you travel and you don't know it's a public holiday. Yeah. Or some religious temples they'll have a locals only day like I remember that in like some of like the Buddhist temples that you're like right I want to go see this and it's like no no no it's actual Buddhist only this happened as well for tourists at Machu Picchu

earlier a year ago there were 25 days with a protest because of the impeachment of the president and so all these people for 25 days couldn't go to Machu Picchu and like they're like well I guess I go all the way back home to wherever I'm from New Zealand and not see it

That's kind of why I'm here Yeah so we wanted to know this morning and Texan are already coming in 0,800 dials at M to give us a call. You can text through 9-6-96. When did you go all the way to see something or somewhere and it was closed? Tourists have gone all the way to much Pichu and the locals are protesting

and blocking the train so they can't get to much Pichu. Yeah. And I guess people just have to go home now. Or some people if they're flexible, can stay until the protest finish or maybe they can hike in but yeah, a lot of Texan calls coming through. So many. I went to London

all was great until the queen died and the whole city basically shut down, I couldn't go to Harry Potter World or Windsor Castle. But, like, how that's kind of, that would be a special time. Like, weird. What a magical time. The Queen's dead. What about, like, everyone went like. Oh, no, this is harrowing.

The Scooby-Doo ride at Movie World. His clothes are so gutted. That was a good ride. Is it still the Scooby-Doo ride? Or is it, have they rebranded that? I don't know that it is. They said, you think that's bad. Once they drove from Auckland to Walkworth. Now, that's a good friend. 45-minute drive to get the best pie at Savan's Bakery.

Close. Close. Louisa, where did you go and it was closed? So when I was younger, I went with my dad to, it was like an old flour mill just out of the room. It was supposed to be a vintage show on there because he's really into his vintage. Yeah. And we got there and Dad's like, oh, there's no one here.

We looked it up and we were a year early. Oh, no! I mean, I guess it was... It was like four hours to get there. Oh, four hours to go to a vintage show. Uh-huh. Did you find anything else to do in the region? No, we went home and I found out that my sister got to go to Invercargo and buy a kitchen with my mum.

Oh, that's a way more fun day. This sounds like we're really... This sounds, Louisa, more like we're just digging into some childhood trauma here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You didn't get the fun day. There's a little bit. Yeah, Louisa, thank you. Let's go to Kaylee, Kaylee.

Where did you go all the way to and it was closed? Hi, we went all the way to New York City and it was the first week of the writer's strike and none of the shows or the Broadway or anything was open. Oh, no! Because that's what you do, yeah. I remember there was, they didn't tape, even the late night shows.

Nah. Nothing. We went to, oh, what's it called? Were they filmed City Rock? Oh, yeah. And we went to go and get Saturday night live tickets and everything. And they were like, no, sorry, all shut down. You can't get your tickets.

That would have been amazing. I mean, New York's still fun regardless. But you book that like a year away. Yeah, totally. And it was our honeymoon that we booked a year after. Yeah. And then like they just decided. I mean, rightly so they went on strike because they were getting like screwed over, right?

Like AI and stuff. I know totally, but still you're like my holiday. Yeah. Kaley, thank you. Some messages in. So many went to Trevi Fountain, absolutely covered in scaffolding. I don't want to talk about it. My best friend and I drove six hours to do the Tungarido Crossing walk,

and it was closed due to a death. Oh, yeah, they do. Yeah, they close it, don't they? Yeah. Yosemite was the main thing I wanted to do while in the States, but the day before we were due to go, bushfires broke out, and it was closed completely to the public. Oh, I booked a safari in Uganda to see the guerrillas, and a whole lot of people got kidnapped and killed.

I mean at least you weren't kidnapped and killed But you've gone all that way It's not easy to get to Uganda So no guerrillas I went to Germany to ski but there was no snow at all Oh wow That sucks Global warming

Went all the way to Rome earlier this year And we're super excited to go to Vatican City And see the Sistine Chapel Then the Pope died and it all shut down Screw him Went all the way to Italy to see Trivia Fountain they got there was under construction it had been drained so if you threw in a coin it was just like clink don't don't don't um well so how many buildings in europe you want to see but they're surrounded

by scaffolding and they paint the scaffolding the building yeah um this one sorry this one might make me cry okay um not the same but it was it was it was pretty gutting at the time when i was pregnant i went all the way to mac is at 11 p.m for an oreo mcflaree with extra chocolate sauce and the ice cream machine was out of order. Of course it was. There's so many. Oh, someone said my client showed me a video yesterday of their daughter walking along those train tracks

and it looked really scary going over the train bridges at Machu Picchu. Oh, wow. So what? People just walk the train tracks. Yeah, yeah. Okay, fair enough. Went to Vegas in 23 and the Bellagio fountain was shut

because of the Formula One. And a lot of the strip joint, you know, the strip was closed too because the cars are going through. Yeah. Went to Egypt, got up at 3 a.m., traveled to Mount Sinai, walked up the hiking track for the supposed awe-inspiring sunrise pilgrimage.

And there were clouds everywhere and you couldn't see a thing so they'd just shut the gate. Just some Australians getting their asses out and doing planks. Of course, Australians. I'm literally not even halfway through. I mean, we're just...

Because we're living in New Zealand, everywhere we go is a far travel. It's far away, yeah. Unless we're just trying to go to McDonald's when we're pregnant. Trying to get a McClury. Play Z-D-M's, Fletch, Vaughn and Haley. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. I do-d-do-do-d-d-do-d-do-d-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.

Well, in Vaughn Ellen Smith's absence, I almost can say he's sort of pickle-wig. He's set them too, eh? Has he? Oh, good. I have, hereby remove myself from responsibility of any of the pickle facts. If he's a way again tomorrow, I just, you know, this is just what we have. Yeah. So, I almost thought about swapping today's one with tomorrow's one, but I shall honour him. Okay.

Because I imagine in Vaughn's head he would have brought this in. Because today's fact of the day that Vaughn's come up with is that there is a drink called a pickleback. A pickleback. Not nickel back. Oh, we should have got some nickel back. I don't know. I don't know if we should have. I don't know if I can...

You're actually... Yeah, but I don't know if I can put the fader up. Why? Just because it's nickel back. Excuse me. The people want nickel back. I'm not even texting the text. I'm not even checking the text machine the people want.

Do they? Yes, they do. Really, though? We have some guests in coming to watch us through the show. Do you guys want some nickel back? Yeah, see, resounding. I feel like you pressured them into that. No, I did.

Don't accuse me of bullying. I feel like you did. Don't accuse me of bullying. Put my favourite up. It is. It's not. You've done something wrong. Never made it as a wise man.

I couldn't get it at a poor man, sterling. Well, what's a pickleback? A pickleback, not to be confused with nickelback, but potentially one of the top five bands of all time. Sorry. A pickleback is a two-part shot. Okay. First, you take a shot of whiskey, and this is why I wondered if Vaughn was going to bring this in for us. Also, in moderation.

We will say in moderation. And not at 825 in the morning. Absolutely not. This will be later you'd have one. Oh, hey, Leah. You just put it up because you're enjoying it so much. First, you take a shot of whiskey. Traditionally, it's Jamisons.

That's what Vaughney drinks, so I get it. Immediately after, your chaser shot a pickle brine. I'm imagining this, and I'm here for it. Yeah, yeah, okay. The kind of smoky earthiness of the whiskey, and then that kind of like tarty, bright tang of pickle brine. Love it. Maybe we need a splash of Midori in there.

Oh, for God. You why not put some bailey's in too? And some baileys, some baillies and some pickle juice. So the origins of pickleback was reportedly born in 2006 at Bushwick Country Club, a dive bar in Brooklyn, New York. A bartender called Reggie Cunningham offered a whiskey drink of some pickle juice, left it from the jar as a chase, and was like, ha-ha, here you go. And they were like, that is delicious.

It caught on instantly. I imagine Nicoback was playing on some kind of jukebox system in the bar. I never said, he's like, just a shadow. Whiskey. I've been wrong. So it caught on instantly with the regulars of this bar, spread to other bars across New York City, then across the United States and eventually the world.

So we could go into a bar probably in New Zealand and answer the Bushwick Country Club, Pickleback. Why it works, science says, is because whiskey is strong notes of ethanol, oak tannins, and spice. It's how I like my strong notes. Ethanol. Heavy on the ethanol. Pickle brine is acidic, salty and tangy

which creates a sort of a flavour reset. Yeah. Whiskey followed by the pickle brine. That's why pickles are so yum. There's variations around the world. Yep. Southern style. Swat whiskey for bourbon.

Spicy. Use jalapino pickle juice as opposed to just your dill pickle. Mexican pickle back. That's tequila and spicy. Okay. Yum, yum, yum, yum. Yeah, right. Okay, yum.

Sometimes, some bartenders call this the bartender's handshake because it's often shared amongst industry workers after shifts. Gough, gush, yum, delicious. Great job. Okay. This is how you remind me. So today's fact of the day is that at the Bushwa Country Club in 2006, the shot, which is a whiskey, followed by pickle brine, the pickleback was born.

Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. I do do do do do do do do do do do do do to do do do to do do to do do to do do to do to do to do to do to do to do the table and haley. Play ZM's Fletch warn and Haley. Now I sort of thought that this could be quite a good moment for me to break some news to Vaughan, but I actually think it's better he's not here because I think he'd flip the table and feel pretty. It'd feel like, as my mum would say, he'd feel like tits on a ball. Okay. You know, useless.

Useless. Completely useless because I, yesterday, purchased something and I think it's going to be all you guys, can I borrow it? Oh, Haley, have you got it? Can I borrow it? Hedge trimmer. No. What does Vaughn always say? Oh, bring in the, oh, I've got the, where's my, who borrowed my, he recently accused me of stealing it? The Bissell. I bought a bistle.

The fabric cleaner, the upholstery cleaner. Yeah, I bought a little wet, back sucky bistle thing. Okay. And now Vaughn used to really hold it over us, I think. He used to sort of be like, I'm the Bissell man. Yeah. And he would take great pride in lending us out the Bissell. And then he'd be like, where's the Bistle, bring it back?

Yeah. I'm Bissell Queen now. Are you going to make those videos where you, like, Bissile a yuck rug? Well. And then it turns real nice. And you're like, oh, immediately. I bought it 24 hours ago. Can I borrow it?

Yes, you may borrow my Bissle. I've got my own Bissle. Do you know what is going to be yuck? I have never cleaned my couch. Neither. and I've had it for nearly 10 years. Yours, I don't even want to know. I saw her like a coffee stay on the other day.

I was like, where did that come from? Yeah. And do you know what? It was probably espresso martini. And it's normally where Haley sits on the couch. I've got my corner. I was like, what is this? Yes, yes, yes.

So mine is because I have a few fabric things that were not looking great. And it's a couple of rugs that I've had in the garage for ages, you know, while renovating. And I've brought one in. And I was a bit like, oh, it's a bit. and then you know when you eat an ice cream and a flake of you know like an ice block ice cream and a flake of chalky

like falls somewhere and you're like where that go and you never know and it smears on a fabric and you can never get it out and it looks like human poops and you can't like wash the couch covers some people do. Mine are linen and so if I wash them

they'll start to fade because it's a dark navy do you know what I mean? I can't have a faded thing but it does look like there's a big sort of poo smear in the middle couch bit and I just thought there's so many fabric things in here I'm going to shout myself a Bissell and I got it on sale

it was like it was a couple hundred bucks Yeah Like it was No, not as expensive as I thought No, no non-spom But you gotta buy the liquids You gotta buy the cleaning liquids That's where they get you

Yeah yeah no Although surely someone's worked out online Some DIY make your own cleaners Vinegar Yeah it's usually vinegar It's probably vinegar and baking soda and water Yeah yeah I don't know But today

No, I won't be today. It'll be tomorrow I'm going to bistle the couch And I'll video it because it'll be so man. Are you prepared though? Because there's nothing worse In cleaning something You haven't cleaned for ages

That you use all the time Yeah You know like when you see your pillow You're like quick Put the cover back on When you change the sheets And you're like It's all brown and wet

Where'd that dribble come from? Yeah, who did that? Yeah I am prepared to face my own mankiness I mean the couches are heavily frequent in area I don't have a great indoor entertainment space. So when people come over to my house if there's lots of people,

like on the weekend I threw a party, we had nine people just all on that couch. Right. Drinking a myriad of things. So there's things in that couch, for sure. There's things. There's human DNA. There's my cat.

So I am. I will make some really satisfying Vissal content. Yeah, good. Play ZMs, Fletch, Vaughn and Haley. Yesterday, Tinder, Australia, like they do The Tinder group is also Hinge.

They own like a bunch of all of them, yeah. No, I don't think they own Bumble, isn't that? Didn't they start? Oh no, that's the... The person that worked at Tinder started. That's right. Yesterday in Australia, they announced that all new users have to do a video face check when signing up for the app.

Because I didn't know this, but Australia has some really serious, I think because there were quite some high profile murders over there. Right. regarding like Tinder dates and stuff. So they have a code of conduct now in Australia, which means that any like online dating profiles have to report to the government stats. And in the last year,

190,000 Tinder accounts were banned. Oh, wow. So like people with double up accounts or scammers overseas or whatever it is. And so yeah, from yesterday, all new users have to do that. Yeah. Which I think you kind of have to.

to do here anyway. You have to verify yourself. I don't know if you do on Tinder. What about the celebrity dating app you're not allowed to talk about? Are you? It's very, very strict. It's very strict. So strict. I can't even say that I'm on it. It's pretty fun. I just had to play on Haley's and it's such a good time. Tinder looked a right on there though.

Yeah, I just, because I, I, sometimes, if you need to do the show, she's on the prow. Squirrel on the prow. It's a new segment, Georgia. I'm the proud. And if you didn't know, Haley's now single. Yeah. Yeah. Because every now and again, people would text them, be like, what are you doing? What are you talking?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God, the disrespect. And I'm like, no, no, all good. But yeah, I do sometimes have a go at Tinder. It's more, it's not the attractiveness of people. It's the effort that I would say, in particular the men are putting in to present themselves well. Because you'll see a photo, you'll be like, oh, God, no. But you'll swipe and you'll be like, the second photo is much better, dude.

Move that around. Right. And then they'll say things like, I'll be your prince. That was an immediate, what in there. It's a direct attack. Right. You're a classic, been in a relationship for ages, Georgia. I know, there's a coming across.

I know. Whenever you see a friend's Tinder, you're like, give me a go. I know that she just had a little look at, we went from Tinder onto Raya. It's called Raya. I keep saying Raya. And immediately the first person was like footballer. What? She said, no.

Blue my mind. It lives in Malas. Who cares? You just got to get across the world. Yeah. Heyley, take the show overseas. Someone just messaged in saying, Haley, drop your age down on Tinder.

I'm trying to hit you up. No, I don't like the young ones. I've already dropped it down a bit. What is my age rain? Are you getting desperate? Did you run out of people to swipe on? So you had to go down a couple of years. I'm all right.

We'll add one either side. Is that the podcast done? Because I'm busting for a poos. Busting for a poos. Jesus. Give us a review. Play ZM's Fletchhorn and Haley.