ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Fact of the Day (of the Week!) - Changed Names Week!

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

On Today's FOTD(OTW);  Vaughan peels off the nametags and finds out what stuff & things used to be called!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The ZM Podcast Network. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. On today's Fact of the Day of the Week, Vaughn peels off the name tags and finds out what things used to be called. It's time for... Fact of the Day, Day, Day, Day, Day. Wow, okay This week's theme at Fact of the Day is things that had to change their names Oh, it's Monday

Okay Yeah, it's a new theme It's a new theme and today we're dealing with cars that had to change their names Oh, okay I'm going to start with the Rolls Royce Silver Mist. The Rolls Royce, of course, the finest in British engineering.

I don't think I've ever been in a Rolls Royce. I've never been. Was it, was it that, a Rolls Royce downstairs, that big, ugly, purple thing? Yes.

Oh my God, it was hideous. Because Rolls Royces have those big nose, or the big grill across the front, right? Yeah, yeah. But it's that grill. Usually I'll see a Rolls if it's like silver or black.

You're like, ah, it's pretty cool. But this one was like this garish, grimace purple. Yeah. And the leather interior was purple as well. Was it grimace? Look, if it was grimace driving it, apologies. Because that would make so much sense. That would make so much sense.

If you and Barney the Dinosaur were commuting to work in a big purple Rolls Royce, you've both been around for ages, you've earned your money. And Tinky Winky. Tinky Winky. He's allowed to be in the back. Rolls Royce. You've both been around for ages. You've earned your money. And Tinky Winky. Tinky Winky. He's allowed to be in the back. Okay, we need one more purple character. The purple wiggle.

Purple wiggle. Of course, the original purple wiggle, Jeff. Imagine those four catching up. He better not be in the front. How about this purple? He better not be in the front because he'll be asleep. And if you're a sleeping passenger, you go in the back. Yeah.

If you're a passenger at the front, you've got to stay awake, talk to the driver. Oh, you have to. That's your role. Otherwise, get in the back. Yeah. So I'm imagining Grimace is back. Yeah. If you're a passenger at the front, you've got to stay awake, talk to the driver. Oh, you have to. That's your role. Otherwise, get in the back. Yeah. So I'm imagining Grimace is driving. Yeah.

So he's kind of the alpha of the situation. Yep. Yeah. Then Tinky Winky's in the back with Jeff and Barney's up front. 100%. Barney's in charge of the tunes. God, that's an annoying.

Because Barney would have, I reckon, I'll say it, Barney would have a fire playlist. Yeah, yeah. It would be a mixture of like metal, Springsteen, hip hop, Taylor. It would be a good mix. Yeah, and then he plays Erykah Badu's Tyrone, the live version. That's right. And it sets the road trip off.

Erykah Badu's live version of Tyrone. Carry on. Anyway, the Rolls Royce Silver Mist was not the big purple garish monster that we saw parked downstairs at work. But it also wasn't called the Rolls RoyRoyce Silver Mist was not the big purple garish monster that we saw parked downstairs at work. But it also wasn't called the Rolls-Royce Silver Mist for long. It became the Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow, as the main export market for Rolls-Royce outside of the UK was Germany, and mist translates to shit in Germany.

Silver shit. So it was the Rolls-Royce Silver Shit. Mist. Yeah. That's a fancy-looking car. So they had to change that. To Silver Shadow. That wasn't going to work. Now this one, the next one that had to change its name,

this was a classic growing up. In the 1990s, every family that total horse float or had a boat or just had too many children, not too many. Is it the Mitsubishi? It was the Mitsubishi Pajero. Pajero. Which is a-hole? Pajero. Wanker. In Spanish. Is it? So the Mitsubishi? It was the Mitsubishi Pajero. Pajero. Pajero. Which is a-hole? Pajero.

Wanker in Spanish. Is it? So the Mitsubishi marketed the Pajero as the Montero in North America, Spain and Latin America, except for Brazil because they speak Portuguese. Yes, they do. And Jamaica, it was also known as the Pajero in Jamaica. And in the UK, it was called the shogun. Okay.

But why did they just keep it in New Zealand? None of our Spanish speakers. Yeah, they were like, oh, well, they don't know. Fletch does. Yeah, I've done Duolingo. Thanks to Duolingo. Thanks to Duolingo. Fletch speaks Spanish.

Not up to car models yet. Right. Not there. I'll get there. That's next month. But could you call someone a pajero? Is that the correct pronunciation? Well, the J, you don't hit it Other than when you say jalepanos

Jalepanos Lovely, delicious jalepanos Yeah But the Mitsubishi pahero Oh, okay, that makes sense Had to be changed to the Montero North America And then it never really took off after the name change So they canned it

And there hasn't been one in North America since. Oh. So they're just not doing it anymore. Also a tosse in Spanish. Tossa, yeah. Tossa? You're tossing it. You're tossing your salad.

It's the same as the W word, isn't it? So tomorrow we're looking at places that had to change their names. Oh, geez. Like Mumbai. No, Bombay. No, I was thinking that just- Saigon. Saigon.

Thai. No. Bohemia. Siam became Thailand. No, but it's not like they changed it because of a change. They wanted to change it. There's a small Canadian town named after a hate symbol. I'll say that much.

And will they change their name? We'll find out tomorrow on Fact of the Day. But today's Fact of the Day is the Rolls Royce Silver Mist and the Mitsubishi Pajero had to change their names in certain countries because of how it translated. This week on Fact of the Day, it's things that have to change their name week. Okay.

And I want to start with a place you thought would have changed their name, a Canadian town, the town of Swastika, Ontario. Oh, yeah. Founded in 1908, adopted its name years before the Nazi party got the Swastika. During World War II, of course, Canada is of the British Commonwealth. Yeah. They removed the Swastika sign from the sign and replaced it with the town, they renamed the town Winston.

Well, as soon as the World War II was over, the residents were livid and they said, no way, and they put the swastika sign and said, to hell with it, we came up with it first, and so you can still visit Swastika, Ontario. You do that thing where you subtly change up the pronunciation. Swastaika or something.

Swastaika. And they'll be like, oh, is that how it's pronounced? Yeah, people have always said it's swastaika for years. Yeah, that's the German way. Swastaika. Yeah, so they didn't. Here are some places that did. There was a town in the Philippines called Sussmoan,

but apparently it sounds like sexmoan. So everybody formerly known as sexmoan, officially known as sexmoan, because it was a place, and this was something I learned. I'm dealing with towns, but lots of like lanes and stuff were places where women of the night congregated. And they all had horrendous names that were actually printed. Like grope and all grope soap, something, grope that lane and this.

Right. All that sort of stuff. Actually a fishing mountain. Grope soap, did you say? Get yourself a bar of grope soap. Grope soap. But Sexmoan was a place and Spanish fries, of course, the Spanish colonised, invaded

the Philippines and they were like, no it's called Sarsmoan and they're like nah it's not, it's Sexmoan and so everybody completely ignored that it was called that although it is officially now changed to Sarsmoan in 1991. You've got to hit the O and the A and it softens it.

Without a doubt in my research of places that have changed names, without a doubt, worldwide, the most changed place names are because it had the N word in the title. Oh, wow. And there are heaps. United States and Canada. What's that? I know you're not going to,

but for some reason I just felt the need to say don't say them. And so I was at United States, Canada. It makes sense. And there were so at United States, Canada, makes sense. And there were so many in there, the heaps of them have been changed. Some of them as late as like, not that long ago. I'm talking in the last 20 years. Yeah.

I think like 21st of July, 24. You might be thinking, that's typical of those terrible nations. Yep. Well, remember in 2016 when New Zealand had to, 2016, when New Zealand had to rename three locations. That's right. Inward Head, Inward Hill, and Inward Stream.

We all officially called that until 2016 in New Zealand when they got changed. I do not remember that at all. South Island. Santa Ma. Santa Ma. Santa Ma. And the one that I want to finish on, the biggest one,

you probably will have seen the signs, is the German, the Austrian town on the German border of F-U-A. What's going on, Andrew? The full, people would have their photos taken with it. People would steal the signs. The main reason they changed it, in 2021, they changed it to Fugging, F-U-G-G-I-N-G. Yeah.

From the full, the full swear word with I-N-G on the end. Isn't because they were like, oh, it's offensive. Oh my gosh, no. Oh my gosh. It was because the signs kept getting stolen. And they were like, we simply can't keep up with this. But I mean, fugging

is still really funny. Yeah. So in 2004 it failed. The locals were like, no, we will not change it to fugging. But then in late 2020 they agreed and in 2021 the official spelling changed. Bolt down the signs better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really like concrete them in.

That was another thing about some of the places that have changed their names or had names that people found very funny is they literally had to make their road signs huge engraved stones.

Yeah. So they couldn't be stolen. They did this in this Austrian. Yeah, that's it. That's welcome to this town. They did that and someone still managed

to steal it. Yeah, I know. I always remember in New Plymouth, there's a Shortland Street and that's on a really tall sign, signpost. Holden Road or something. Holden Street in Hamilton was the same, right at the top of a really tall post because people kept stealing them. There's other places.

Yeah, that is great. That's crazy. Wow, wow, wow. So today's fact of the day is lots of places have changed their name due to terrible choices throughout our history. But sadly, in 2021, the Austrian town of, you know, changed its name officially to the Austrian town of Fugging. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.

This week on Fact of the Day, it's things that have changed their name due to, I don't know, a change of how certain words are perceived. Today we're doing food. Okay. Today we're doing food. Now, while Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben have had makeovers, still the same name. Yes, still the same name. That was problematic because of the characterisation of pre-mentioned uncle and auntie.

But they've remained the same name. Just changed their look. However, in Australia, coon cheese. Yes. This was last year or the year before? Yes, in 2021, actually. Coon cheese became chair cheese. It had been sold in Australia

for more than 80 years. And of course, the origins of the term weren't great. The racist term. It wasn't the racist term, but the term had become synonymous with the racist term. So they changed it to chair cheese.

Closer to home, our own Explorer lollies. Oh, yes. And what used to be called the Eskimo lollies. Oh, yes. And what used to be called the Eskimo pie. Yes. Oh, cancelled. He just said it. Vanilla ice cream encased in chocolate.

And he said, oh, I'm just saying it in quotations. Cancelled. I heard it. Became Eddie's pie overseas, but I just think they stopped making them down here. No, I think they still make them, don't they? They just call them pies? No, they were something else.

I haven't seen them. Something pie. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure of it. No, I'm pretty sure they still make them. Explorer lollies are the go-to there. I don't they? They just call them pies? No, they were something else. I haven't seen them. Something pie. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure of it. No, they're still, I'm pretty sure they still make them. Explore or Lollies are the go-to there. I don't have a...

What were the Explorers? Polar Pies. That's what they are. Thank you, producer Jared. Big fan of an ice cream snack in case and chocolate out. He does. He loves them.

Nestle has a few under their umbrella in the lolly department that have had to change their name. Redskins. Again, he said it. Got him. I'm hearing it.

I'm hearing it. And the team changed its name too, didn't it? Yes. We're dealing with sports teams tomorrow. Oh, okay. Fantastic. Sports teams that have changed their name. The Crusaders.

No, they've kept their name. So what they've decided to do is just keep it. Keep the name. Okay, right. They've kept it. Yeah. Yeah. Despite, yeah, it's interesting, isn't it?

Also, there was a lolly in the Nestle candy under their umbrella. In Spanish, it meant kiss from a black woman. Oh, okay. That translated. I mean, yes, please. Do you know what I mean? Oh, absolutely. I haven't tasted it.

You wouldn't say no. I would not say no. It would get some of a black woman right now. Absolutely not. And there was another lolly they had, but the word was also used in the US as a slur against people of Latin American descent. Oh, my goodness.

So they've changed those. Now, one that we've kind of touched on a couple of times this week is things that haven't changed their names, but probably should. For our English listeners, you might be familiar with Mr. Brain's pork, insert very offensive F word.

Yes. Now, Mr. Brain's, the bundle of sticks. Wrong, really? It has been named this, Mr. Brain's product, came out over 100 years ago, and it was a bundle of meatballs. A bundle of pork meatballs. So it actually drew on the Italian term. Oh my god, you can

still buy them. Yeah, you absolutely can still buy them. And you know what, every time they tell the company they should probably change it, do you know what they say? No. No. Just straight up like, no because that's not what that word meant. It's Italian For a bundle

And this is a bundle Of meatballs It's so shocking Seeing the branding Where do you buy those? Tesco In the UK Yeah you can still get them

In the UK Mia made a mind over there When he went back to Mainland England He's like I can't believe You can still buy these And send us a photo of them Yeah it's pretty wild

Far out It's a lot to look at So today's fact of the day Is a lot of foods have changed their names because of racist origins to the name of that food. Play ZM's Fletchford and Ailey. Play ZM. Sports teams that have had to change their name. This is things that have changed their names.

Okay. Not targeting the Crusaders. Not suggesting that it would be time to change it name. This is things that have changed their names. Okay. Not targeting the Crusaders. Not suggesting that it would be time to change it. Nah. Oh, that changed the bloody logo. What do you want? We did enough. Hey, we've done enough.

Surprising. Not surprisingly, I should say. It's mostly American sports teams. Yeah. Racist? Mostly racist. Just more in the lines of cultural appropriation. Yeah. Racist? Mostly racist. Just more in the lines of cultural appropriation a lot of the time.

Like it's not, I mean, most famously, the Washington Redskins. Yeah. That's Native American. That's an offensive term. Yeah. That's an offensive term. Yeah. Racially derogatory term. But you know what blew my mind? How many European sports teams

have Native american names because we've got the chiefs okay the wakato chiefs but also that's maori chiefs yeah but like european football teams and baseball teams they didn't have chiefs did they they didn't know no no they certainly didn't have um chiefs adorned with feather-based headwear. Yeah, right. Which is their emblems. As a woman who has definitely not deleted a photo of herself from Instagram wearing a Native American headdress, I'm appalled.

You looked so good in that photo too. It must have hurt. It was so cool. Like it really was a vibe. Where are we talking? It still blows my mind every Coachella there'll be a quite high profile model that'll rock a full inappropriate. Full headdress.

Yeah, even though we. I did have a photo of me in a Native American headdress on my Instagram from 2011. Wow. Borderline, borderline. I know, almost too late. Deleted that, but you've left the blackface photo up. Interesting.

I know, because my body was popping. That's when I was really into my gymming. And so despite what's happening up top, which I agree was ghastly. Going blackface to ride an elephant, I said she's doing both at once. And you know she was blackface patting a drugged out tiger as well. Yeah, on the back of an elephant.

He wasn't drugged out. He was just very sweet. He was a sweet little boy. He was just a nice, kind boy with a nice connection. All right, here are some sports teams that have changed their names. You know the LA Clippers? Mm-hmm. You might be thinking, how's that offensive?

I thought it was Tonell Clippers. No, no. I actually learned this too. It's named after the boats because the Clippers are from San Diego. They were in San Diego when they changed their name to the Clippers, and it's like a name for a little boat. Oh. But before that, they were the San Diego Braves.

When they moved from Buffalo, they were the Buffalo Braves. And all of their, Buffalo, New York, all of their insignia was very heavily Native American. All right. The Golden State Warriors were originally the Philadelphia Warriors. Then the San Francisco Warriors. They dropped the Native American imagery when they became the Golden State Warriors. And, of course, now it's the bridge. The bridge, yeah. It's the bridge became the Golden State Warriors. And of course now it's the bridge. It's the bridge of the Golden State Warriors.

The Cleveland Indians played in the Major League Baseball for a very long time. They dropped the name in December 2020. They will be called the Cleveland Guardians from there on out. And I believe they were the last game that the squad played as the Indians was a good one. They defeated the Texas Rangers 6-0. So they think they were the last game that the squad played as the Indians was a good one.

They defeated the Texas Rangers 6-0, so they think they saw the name off with a good... Right. With a good win over the Rangers. I'm not sure. Of course, the Washington Redskins is the most famous example because they kind of fought it so much.

Yeah. Nah, we don't really want to change it. But everyone knows us as that. Yeah, that's our name. That's what we've got. But that's probably the most high profile one. So all the examples

of sports teams that had to change their names because of, you know, cultural inappropriation or just blatant racism in the form of the Washington Rinskins

have changed their names. And they've all been American. Clay, Zed Eames, Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Fact of the day. What? I've got something. Oh, it's playing. I'm just confused.

Are you ready? There's music coming from somewhere. I'm ready now. You had your headphone on split, didn't you? I had my headphone on laptop, yeah. Okay, it's time for... Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. It's to Carl Peter Fletcher.

We say thank you for today's Fact of the Day. Hang on. So Fletcher's done your top six. No, no, no. He hasn't done it. And he's also done's fact of the day. So hang on. So Fletch has done your top six. No, no, no. He hasn't done it. And he's also done your fact of the day. He suggested, because I said, tomorrow's actually, we were sitting here,

weren't we, afterwards, after work, you said silly buggers. And you said something about fact of the day. I said, tomorrow's the one day that I don't know. I think I'm out. I did it on sports teams, foods, all those things that have changed names. And you said, what about celebrities?

And I said, what a great idea. Hit it out of the park. Your show was all right? Carrying the weight of the show? Quite a lot of load on these shows. Who was born John Roger Stevens? Oh, I love that. Great, great.

This is like when BuzzFeed are like, you won't believe these 20 celebs. Sting. Not Sting. Okay. John, he kept. John. Stevens, he ditched. Johnny Cash. No. John Bon Jovi.

No. No, he's Giovanni. Giovanni. John John. Three two one. Mayer. Legend. John Legend. John Legend was born. John Roger Stevens. What actor was born? Mark Sinclair. Mark Ruffalo.

No, ditch both names. Brad Pitt. Family is everything to this man. Sylvester Stallone. Family. We family. Vin Diesel. Vin Dizzy Vin Diesel was born Mark Sinclair.

Vin Diesel for shizzle. Another actor was born Eric Bishop. Oh, who's that? Didn't keep either of them. Give us a clue, Eric Bishop. Oh, who's that? Didn't keep either of them. Give us a clue. Eric Bishop. That's a great name. It's a great name.

It's a very strong name. If you just had an average name and then you changed it to be some big Hollywood celeb, would you just feel like your whole life is a lie because everyone would think that's your name? Yeah, I know. It would be a weird feeling. Lady Gaga was not born Lady Gaga. She's Stephanie, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Jamie Foxx was born Eric Bishop. Eric Bishop's cool. I mean, Jamie Foxx is a great name. Yeah. But Eric Bishop rules. Yeah, great name. Easy one here.

Destiny Cyrus. Oh, yeah, Miley. Miley Cyrus. She was called that because she smiled a lot as a kid. Also, what is happening with that family at the moment? Oh, my God.

That is wild, eh? There was a clip of Billy kid. Also, what is happening with that family at the moment? That is wild. There was a clip of Billy Ray Cyrus like yelling at his wife, that child. Oh, no, the new one. The young woman, yeah. He's got like dreadlocks and stuff. And like called her like some horrible names. Horrible. Couldn't repeat here.

They're all not talking. That's awful. Natalie Herschlag. Natalie Ambruglia. Natalie is correct. Natalie Portman's real name is Netta. Netta. Netta hyphen Lee Herschlag. Natalie Ambruglia. Natalie is correct. Natalie Portman's real name is Netta-Lee Herschlag. Okay. She changed it because she's too Jewish.

Yeah, Herschlag's full noise. She was born Onika Tanya Miraj Petty. Onika Moore. No. Nicki Minaj. Yes, that's right. Yes, I knew that. What DJ was born?

Adam Wiles. Moby. No. Adam Wiles. Adam Wiles. Romantically linked to Taylor Swift at one stage. Calvin Harris. Calvin Harris was born.

Adam Wiles. Bruno Mars. I feel like he's switched one sort of normal name for another, though. Calvin Harris. What do you reckon his passport says? Adam or Calvin? Adam Wiles, I think. Yeah, like pink says Alicia.

Yeah. Alicia Moore. Bruno Mars. What was his name before he changed it to Bruno Mars? Clive. Not far off. Clive Morrow. Same era.

Clive Morrow. Peter. Yeah. Peter Hernandez. Peter Hernandez. Peter Hernandez. Clive Morrow. Same era. Clive Morrow. Peter. Yeah. Peter Hernandez. Peter Hernandez. Peter Hernandez. Became Bruno Mars. Yeah, Bruno Mars.

And who is Thomas Mapotha IV? I don't know. Tom Brady. Tom's correct. Tom Hiddleston. Not Hiddleston. Tom Noel. Tom.

Wacky religion. Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise. What was his name? Thomas Mapotha IV Mapotha IV Mapotha M-A-P-O-T-H-E-R

Mapotha That's never working on the poster for Mission Impossible Yeah Hi I'm Thomas Mapotha IV Thomas Thomas Mapotha The Smithin

Isn't he the possible So today's fact of the day Heaps of celebrities Have changed their names Fact of the day is heaps of celebrities have changed their names. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Yeah. Okay, if you had to rate, review or marry Fletch, Vaughn or Hayley, what one would it be? Okay, I would marry Hayley.

I would have sex. Wait, which one is it? No, no, no, no. It's only rate, review, marry. Oh, okay. No comment. I would have sex with the podcast. I don't know how that would work.

Give us a sexy little review though.