ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Fact of the Day (of the Week!) - Lingerie Week!

Episode Date: October 26, 2023

On This FOTDOTW, Vaughan gets hot under the collar as he educates us on the history of Lingerie!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The ZM Podcast Network. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley. Treat yourself to McCafe coffee with MyMackersRewards. Hello and welcome to Fact of the Day of the Week. This week, Vaughn undoes the bra on this week's sexy topic, Lingerie Week. It's time for... Fact of the Day, Day, day, day, day. Welcome to Lingerie Week, ladies and gentlemen.

This is an attempt to sexy it up after last week's Stamp Week. Yeah, well, let's see if we hear from international lingerie lovers. We may do. With facts. Yeah. Like we did last week from the stamp collectors and the stamp lovers. Well, I actually mentioned this word on Friday when I laughed and said we could do lingerie week

about the monobosom. And today's fact of the day is indeed about the monobism. Monobism. Monobism. Start of the 1900s, the monobism girdle was the lingerie of the moment. What is the lingerie of the moment now? Comfort. Comfort is key. I reckon we've gone the other way.

Comfort is key. So it's less about looks and sexiness. It's more just comfort. Smooth, soft comfort. Right. Thick strap. Thick back. This isn't just comfort. Smooth, soft comfort. Right. Thick strap. Thick back. This isn't just you

pushing the nanner agenda on us. Does it get more nanner-y than this? That's comfort. Oh my God. That strap is smooth. That looks like a comfortable strap. That just steamed the room up.

Even that clap of it against you sounded comfortable. Hang on. Oh. Thicky. Oh. She's a thickie. It's a thick strap. It sounds comfortable. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, you went over too far. It's a thick strap.

It sounds comfortable. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Well, it ended around World War I, but the monobosom girdle was basically pushed the boobs together. Girdles. That was, he was with Hitler, wasn't he? Yeah, he was a really bad German.

You're thinking of Goebbels. Goebbels. That's the one, yeah. And not to be confused with Paris Goebbels, who teaches people dance moves. Choreographer. Yes. Yeah, okay.

So the girdle pushed the breasts in and up, but the dresses worn over the top were loose fitting. So it appeared as if there was one sort of central, almost cycloptic breast. Like a pigeon, eh? So it was called the pigeon breast because, and this is something else I learned, pigeons have a very prominent chest bone. Yeah, right.

You know when you get a chicken, you know when you get a bachelor's handbag, let's take you to a bachelor's handbag, and you get the chicken and you can see the two breasts, but the bone in the middle sinks in, and then when you get down into it, it's just that gristly like pull bit down here. And there's the wishbone at the top. And there's a join there. So a pigeon. I'm having a roast chicken tonight, actually. This is great anatomy for me when I break it up.

You can think about that if you were eating a pigeon, apparently, I've never seen it. I wouldn't eat a pigeon. I wouldn't eat a pigeon. I would eat a pigeon. I'm doing all right for myself. I don't, I'm not. I don't need a pigeon. Well, why do a pigeon. I would eat a pigeon. I'm doing all right for myself. I don't need a pigeon. Well, why do you think the kereru is in such short supply?

See, I never said I wouldn't eat a kereru. I think one of those, they look delicious. It's of the pigeon family. Honey soy. It's a wood pigeon. I'd do a honey soy kereru. Oh, yeah, right. I'd do a buttered kereru. Buttered chicken.

A buttered chicken kereru. Buttered chicken, yeah. A chicken sauce would be nice. I think you'd probably have to go with a more traditional flavour. Wouldn't you go a kawakawa and a kūmira? Oh, yeah, you could. Kawakawa, kūmira, stuffing and a ketidu. A lemon herb.

Could I do some lemon herb in there? Yeah, good. Okay, good. Yeah. Sweet, sour. Maybe just subtle. I think that would take away from the flavour of the ketidu itself. I'd batter it.

Like put a crumb, like a panko. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Ketidu schnitz A ketadu parmesan Yeah right Oh yeah Now we're talking

Yeah Let's stop talking about Eating delicious things I'm hungry I'll eat it So the bone Apparently of the pigeon Is more prominent

Which means it's rounded To a point Right yeah So when the girdle Was pulling you up and in, you looked like a pigeon. And it would arch you back, you almost had a pigeon chest.

And it was called, it was, yeah, the monobosom girdle or the pigeon breast. Yeah, looking at like the silhouette of those times, you are arched back. Very much so, yeah. And forward in the breast. Yeah.

This is a quote, bosoms are beautiful, sexy and feminine. He's all flustered on lingerie week, isn't he? He's seen boobies. There's actually no pictures in my fact of the day paragraph today. I didn't want to be distracted. They conjured up some images. He's got a powerful mind.

He's got a powerful mind. Bosoms are beautiful, sexy, and feminine. At the start of the century, monobosoms, the single breasts, were a very popular look and considered a prideful way to wear one's breast. Right. Women dress in such a way that they appear to have one large breast almost in a pigeon-like fashion. Wow.

Yeah. So today's track today, and the first fact for lingerie week. I'm excited for the sexy week. The start of the 1900s, the monobosom was the look of the time. Lingerie week here at Fact of the Day. That fact that I just told you off air before we came on, is that too rough to be a fact of the day one day this week? No, I don't think so.

I just don't see the P word. Underwear. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's not today a fact of the day one day this week? No, I don't think so. Just don't say the P word. Underwear. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, that's not today's fact of the day.

Today's fact of the day, because yesterday, the first day, we talked about the monobosom. Yes. This was a look in the earliest of 1900s. The appearance of one central breast. Yes. Like a pigeon. No gap between. Already.

And then it's flowing over. This is way sexier than standpoint. Oh, I'm already just loving it. Yeah. Well, today I want to talk to you about sweater girls. Heard of sweater girls? Yeah, I have. And bullet bras. That's the pointies.

The bullet bra we're probably most familiar with would be Madonna's bullet bra. Yes. Madonna just wore the bra and it was very pointy, coney. And then what was Austin Powers? It had a gun in it, eh? That was the... A gun bosom. Femme box?

Femme box. Is that what they were called? And they had a gun in the bosom. That's right. And those weren't bullet bras. Those were fluffy bras. Yeah, right. Okay.

As a boy that was 17 years old when Austin Powers came out, I can tell you in detail what that looked like. From memory alone. So the bullet bra is the pointy bra and the sweater girls were called sweater girls because of course you put a sweater over top of them to accentuate yeah the bulletness also no underwire in these bras it was all in the pattern of the bra that led now when you're making they could be made out of four quarters that were sewn together and peaked out. Right.

And the stark opposite to yesterday, the monobosom we talked about, these were pulled apart and pointed out to be two very individual breasts. Yeah, right. So they were made out of four that were either sewn together so that they peaked or a spiral form that went up the cup and came to a peak. And when was this big? What kind of? 1950s.

Yeah. 1940s, 1950s. You think about girls with their swing skirts, tiny waist, sweaters, pointy boobs. Your Marilyn Monroe's. And it's never become a thing again, has it? Pointy boobs, no. Pointy boobs, no.

It's not. Well, no. There was the Madonna thing. You should bring them back. That was just the. Should we bring her back? I'm trying to just naturally. Righty boobs. No, it's not. Well, no. There was the Madonna thing. You should bring them back. That was just the... Should I bring her back? I'm trying to just naturally. Right.

Yeah. Rounding out. But of course you put a sweater over top of them, a tight sweater over top of them to really accentuate so that they would then be called sweater girls. In fact, it was a phrase used by a police officer who said that he believed sweater girls and the way that they were really accentuating their individual breasts

and, you know, really taking the attention of the male eye was indicative of the downfall of polite Christian society. Oh, really? Because of our pointy boozies. Because of your pointy boozies. So, yeah, Marilyn Monroe. They make me want to ram right. Yeah, really? Yeah. Because of our pointy boozies. Because of your pointy boozies. So yeah, Marilyn Monroe. They make me want to ram right.

Yeah, they make you want to. Maybe they want to shoplift a couple of sausages. Yeah. Definitely. A couple of sausages.

Six pack of sausages. Yeah. Crazy. So today's fact of the day is that sweater girls and their bullet bras were famous before Madonna.

And with the downfall of modern society. And the beginning of the downfall of modern girls and their bullet bras were famous before Madonna. And with the downfall of modern society. And the beginning of the downfall of modern Christian polite society. Today's Fact of the Day is about the thong. Yeah. In fact, can we please have Cisco's thong song in the background? Absolutely, Vaughan. Give me one. That would be lovely

Thank you very much He just loves to search He'll just about and get the thong Search thong Oh my God, this is the thong Thong, thong, thong, thong I love a bit of violin in my thong songs Thong comes from words meaning restraint

oh according to the Oxford English Dictionary probably why we why Australia's called jandals thongs yeah because it restrained the dolls

it was originally a narrow strip of leather used to secure something down like the testicles in the case of secure it down you gotta keep it down

you gotta thong underwear not much restraint is required so there you go I actually googled why it's called a G-string, because I didn't even think about it. A thong, I'm just like, of course, that's what it is called.

But why do we call it a G-string? Because of the guitars. Yeah. It's the thickest string. The thickest string on a violin or a guitar is the G-string. I had no idea. The bottom one that goes boom, that's G. Is it?

So yeah, apparently it's the thickest string is somewhat resemblant to what made up the underpants. The thickest string up your crotch. I mean, there's two facts for you already. Holy shibolies. Is there another one? And Cisco. You betcha.

Hell of a fact of the day today. 1939, the mayor of New York City, Forello La Guardia, that the airport is named after, Oh yeah. is about to host the World Fair. Bold of America during a world war to host a World Fair. Crazy, actually. Yeah, they're like, that's probably not going to bother us too much. Meanwhile, there is a crosshair on Pearl Harbor in a couple of years.

But they host the World Fair in New York. Now, he said, the naked dancers are too naked. Oh. We don't want their fannies being shown to the world. Except the fanny in New York is the bottom, isn't it? I thought you meant, yes. That too, though. Both the front and the back fanny.

Yes. You can't have those out at a World Fair. You can't have those out during a time of a World Fair. So, he, nude dancing is out. No one's allowed to get fully naked. And they said, well, what is the closest

thing to naked but still clothed? It's the thong. Hit it, Cisco. So then... So a tiny bit of material... Tiny bit of material to cover it up. Was a loophole there. The tiny bit of material was the loophole.

And so only exotic dancers wore it. Right. During the World Fair. And then kept doing it from there on afterwards. But the thong, the G-string, was only really used by exotic dancers. Oh, for entertainment. Yeah. In 1974, it made its official debut in the form of a thong swimsuit.

Right. So, like, the ones that you see now at the beach, I don't see them because I'm not looking. Of course you don't. You've only got eyes for your wife. Yeah, you kind of have blinkers on at the beach. Yeah. I'm there for water and sand.

And recreation. I'm not there to see 98% of someone's bottom. It is funny when you see thong togs at the beach show, you're like, that's your whole anus, man. That's your whole butt. One rogue wave, see you later pants. Yeah. See you later pants.

So they started out as a swimsuit. And then that combined with the remnants of the 1939 World Fair, you can't show the front or the back, carried over and they became popular. And the 1990s was when they became very, very popular. And the whale's tail. Because VPL went out the window. We don't want to see the visible panty line. Marketed widely as a practical undergarment to pair with slim fit jeans to avoid visible panty line.

Yeah. Victoria's Secret held its first public runway show in 1995, led by models Stephanie Seymour and Rebecca Hroman, igniting a consumer thong frenzy. Yeah. Thong frenzy. They were big in the 90s. In 2002, 120 million pairs of thongs were big in the 90s In 2002 120 million pairs of thongs Were sold in the US alone

That is a 200% increase In domestic units Sold from 1998 And what year did the thong song come out? 99? Well no it was generally a question I wasn't going to hit you with a Ah right with an actual answer

It does have a big 99 energy to it Yeah it does 1999 yes from the album Unleash the Dragon. Thank you. Thank you. So when they reached extreme popularity, they were accompanied by this song by Sisqó. And now we're on the nana panties, aren't we?

Well, I like nana panties during the day, but I like a thong at the gym. Because of the tights doing a lot of work as well and that was the original purpose of them as well for the general public consumption

Are you going to do nana panties? Because that's my passion in life Well tomorrow is the last day of lingerie I've never considered granny panties to be

in the lingerie family of underpants You should do a granny I've got lacy granny panties sometimes for my more formal occasions.

Okay, what's the last fact tomorrow for lingerie week? Yeah, maybe it can be. I'll see what, because I still had that. Nana undies. I still had that fact about the underpants with no crotch. Oh, yeah, that's quite an interesting one. Yeah, it is. Okay, well.

Well, join us tomorrow to see what happens. Maybe a myriad of facts tomorrow. Just a boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Shot's quite an interesting one. Yeah, it is. Okay, well. Well, join us tomorrow to see what happens. Maybe a myriad of facts tomorrow. Just a boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Shotgun facts about lingerie. Well, today's fact of the day is in 1939, ahead of the New York-based World Fair, the mayor said, I'm sorry, you can't be nude dancing on stage anymore.

And that's when ladies started wearing the thong. Today's fact of the day is Queen Victoria wore crotchless undergarments. Yuck. Vaughan, how could you? To the Queen herself. It's the final. R.I.P. No, Queen Victoria. Yeah. Very much R.I.P. Yeah, she's not alive.

Ages ago R.I.P. Queen Victoria was a. Yeah, she's not alive. Yeah, she's dead. Ages ago RIP. Queen Victoria was a pompous old cow as well. I mean, I was. You speak out of the dead. Wow, did I offend the room? I'm sorry. I didn't realise we were so Victorian in here. No, I haven't seen that episode.

I'm from Hamilton and our main street's named after her. Wow. So I'm a little bit offended by this. Now, what episode of The Crown? She was a what? Pompous old cow. Was she? Was she mean?

Yeah. I don't know a lot about her. She was very stern and very posh. Oh, right. What episode of The Crown is that, though? Being gone. She was very old. The prequel.

Okay. There actually was like a series about her, wasn't there? There's probably been multiple series of movies about her. Who played her? Bloody Helen Mirren. Helen Mirren. That was just a guess. That was a guess.

And you nailed it. It's always Maggie Smith, Helen Mirren, or Jud that was just a guess that was a guess and you nailed it it's always Maggie Smith Helen Mirren or Judi Dench yeah if you're after an old old white English bird

it'll be one of those three so this is actually really interesting and the final fact for lingerie week is that sorry it was Judi Dench it was Judi Dench

yeah she Queen Victoria wore so many so many garments is that... Sorry, it was Judi Dench. It was Judi Dench. Yeah. Queen Victoria wore so many garments. Like there was girdles, there were knickerbockers, there was everything. Everything was going on. A dress, dress, a dress, a petticoat dress,

eight layers of dress. That literally to go to the bathroom was a nightmare. I bet. I'd imagine that would end up being quite hot and humid down there too. Thrush galore. So, well, she avoided it by having undergarments that had no bottom in them. Right. What's the point of them, I guess?

Why didn't she just wear none? Well, she was kind of wearing... Well, it was part of wearing... Well, it was part of her... Because there's a picture of them and... I don't want to see that. You don't want to see them? Do you see her fanny? No, no, no. It's just an illustration of her. Oh, so they're bloomers. Yeah, they're bloomers

as well. With the original hole there. So it was just what was worn when you wore so many garments over the top that you could just walk behind a bush. I mean, she wouldn't have, but your everyday commoner might have. Walk behind a bush, legs apart, hike the skirt up a little bit, and go.

I long for the day when we've got a queen that wears some Lululemon active wear, some kind of casual. It'll be Kate. It'll be Kate. It'll be Kate. She won't wear it at formal functions, but she'll wear them too. Underneath, like a Lululemon tight. Yeah, yeah, totally. She'll totally wear them.

Or a soupy jean. And, oh, I had something else, but now you've distracted me with Kate and her Lululemons. I'm sorry. Sorry. Us historians like to have a calming cigarette while we're trying to remember Do you know what you try and remember I love that Queen Victoria always wore a veil

like almost a wedding veil she always in all of her formal portraits had a veil Queen Vic That's her man Is it? She's a busty old lass Interesting profile for a coin

Yeah we had a statue of her in Wellington Yeah It's her, man. Is it? She's a busty old lass. Interesting profile for a coin. Yeah, we had a statue of her in Wellington. Yeah. We could say that about King Philip as well. King, what's his name? Charles. Charles III. So I'll just wrap it up there then, I think.

I can't remember what else I was going to tell you about it. Yeah, I think you're doing your job really well this week. So your fact of the day is that Queen Victoria wore crotchless panties. Yes. That's the original. She was the original. They've evolved since. There was a long, arduous story about the evolution, but it was practicality for a very long time.

That's what I was going to say. Brides at weddings, going to the toilet is a mission. Yeah. I was told when I was, the first time I was a bride made was with a bride in quite a poofy traditional gown, and she was told to straddle it like a front fort, like put her legs around, ride the toilet,

and then you'd lift up. The front was easier than lifting up the back and bunching it. That's great advice, but no undies or undies with this taken out of it would be significantly easier. On my wedding day, I will be wearing the largest, tightest undies you have ever seen. Holding it all in. Holding it all in.

As long as it goes with Vaughn and I's casual linen outfits. All linen. We're still looking at the guest list. All linen. Still just looking at the guest list. Because every time you get drunk, you invite us. Yeah, I know. And then I sober up and I just remember that no one's invited.

Yeah. It's quite... Yeah. Okay. Well, today's fact of the day is Queen Victoria... You're invited if you wear crotchless panties and nothing else. Queen Victoria wore crotchless underpants. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.

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