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Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
On today's Fact of the Day of the Week,
Vaughn piles up his plate with a week of food origin facts.
It's time for...
Fact of the Day, Day comes to us from producer Shannon.
This could be an interesting picture.
Producer Shannon.
And it was a woman on TikTok talking about national dishes that aren't from that country.
She talked mostly about chicken tikka masala,
how it's not.
It's British.
It's Scottish.
It's the chicken tikka.
And then this guy was like,
it needs more tomato,
complaining to the restaurant owner who was like,
I'll show you.
I made chicken tikka masala
and was immediately like,
what have I done?
This is delicious.
It is so good.
But I think it's fairly well known that tikka masala isn was immediately like, what have I done? This is delicious. It is so good. And so, but I think it's fairly well known
that tikka masala isn't
an Indian curry.
Well, it's a bit like Tex-Mex.
Like a lot of the Mexican food.
You go to Mexico
and you're like,
where's this?
My California burrito.
Where's my sizzling
fajita platter?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's much more
a Texas take on
Mexican food.
Well, today
for foods not where the country you probably think they're from,
tempura.
What?
Wow, out the gate.
Out the gate.
Blowing our minds.
With a home run.
Jaw on floor.
Jaw to be picked up.
That's me trying to pick up my jaw.
In 1543, three Portuguese sailors arrived in Japan
and started a trading relationship that would last for centuries
if you've watched Shogun
you'll be familiar
with the Portuguese influence
on the Japanese
right
I haven't
really tried to get Catholicism
off the ground there
but Shinto remained strong
along with guns and religion
Portuguese traders
and Jesuit
ministries
ministries
missionaries
are you drunk?
yeah
well he did say
producer Shannon
as well.
The word mission
should have an H in it.
Mish, yeah.
Although I don't know
the branch here
and it should be
M-I-S-H-I-O-N.
I always say mission.
Yeah, mission.
Mission impossible.
Very top secret, mission.
Jess Hewitt,
missionaries.
Also bought with them
the food practices of home.
So the Portuguese
like to batter and fry things.
Okay.
Little fish of the garden
was a very popular
Portuguese dish
at the moment.
It was fried beans,
vegetables.
When they gave up meat,
they would deep fry vegetables
for Lent,
which is a Catholic practice
in the lead up to Easter.
So they brought it with them
and the Japanese were like,
we dig that.
Yeah.
And so they kind of took it over.
Put it in their bento boxes.
Yeah.
So then they-
I love tempura.
Yeah, tempura rolls.
It's so good, eh?
Tempura veg, yum.
Or the shrimp tempura.
Tempura shrimp.
That's what they say.
It's not, it wasn't traditionally tempura, the old shrimp.
Yeah.
I love a tempura bean.
They would have added that.
Yep.
How good's a bean?
I mean, your string's better when you batter it and deep fry it.
Oh, anything. Broccoli? Yum. Yep. How good's a bag? I mean, anything's better when you batter it and deep fry it. Oh, anything.
Broccoli?
Yum.
Yep.
I thought you were trying to come up with an example that didn't work.
I was like, no, you failed.
No, there's none.
No, they're always in the tempura veggies.
There's always a little head of floret of broccoli.
It's good stuff.
And you know the Jamaican places I was just talking about before,
their pork ribs are cooked and then individually deep fried really quickly.
You're on some kind of... You're on big rib. You you on some kind of, are you on some kind of.
You're on big rib.
You're on big rib money.
You're on big Jamaican.
Big Jamaican.
Yeah.
That's what they used to call me in high school.
They definitely did, I reckon.
I'm going to put, I'll put a million dollars that they didn't call you big Jamaican.
I think when they were calling you big Jamaican when you came last in the 100m sprints, it
was a joke.
Oh, is it because of my monster wang?
No, I don't think it's your monster wang either.
God damn it. None of it stacks up. It wasn't my is it because of my monster wang? No, I don't think it's your monster wang either. God damn it.
None of it stacks up.
It wasn't my speeding footwork and my monster wang.
Nothing about you is Jamaican.
No, literally.
Nothing.
Not a single bit other than the fact that Jamaican me crazy.
That's good stuff.
Well, stay tuned for the rest of the week.
Yeah, I'm loving this.
As we talk about food, national dishes that aren't from the country you'll think they are.
Fantastic stuff.
We're doing national foods and drinks as today's is a drink that aren't from the country you think they are.
Today.
What was yesterday's again?
Tempura.
Tempura.
It wasn't Japanese.
Portuguese.
Portuguese.
The Portuguese bought the practice of it.
I tell you what, we're going to be hearing a bit more from those cheeky Portuguese.
Oh, really?
This is when you were a big conquering, colonialising kingdom.
Yep.
You tend to drag your stuff around to other parts of the world.
Like your Tempora.
And then leave them behind, And then the Tempura.
So we're going to be hearing more from them.
Okay.
But today, Corona beer.
Not Mexican?
What?
Made in Mexico, but a German beer.
German?
It was Germans.
The Germans.
The Germans.
That does not give off German beer vibe.
The German brewers just took exactly the beer that they've been making over in Germany, the Lager,
and took it into Mexico as they saw
a market there. Yeah.
And Corona was established. Yuck.
Named after... Yeah, not
for me. Yuck beer. Not a fan.
That's why we've got to put a lemon in it to try to hide
out what yuck it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lemon or a lime. A little bit of a...
Give it something. Give it anything.
Give it a little bit of a taste. It got its name
from the cathedral
of Our Lady Guadalupe
in the city of
Porto Vallarta
because of
Karoshi wears a crown
and the corona is crown
and that's why of course
it was a coronavirus
because it looked
like a crown
in the early days of COVID.
It looked like it was
wearing a crown.
And then corona was like
what did you do that for?
Sales went up.
And this one reading
about this like
the history of Corona.
Yeah.
When everyone was talking about the coronavirus in early 2020,
apparently just hearing the word was enough.
Wow.
For people to be like, oh, man, I'd kill for one of those.
Yeah, true.
In the zeitgeist, front of mind.
Yeah.
Makes you thirsty.
Yep.
For a little bit of laundry water.
With some lime in it.
A little bit of diluted down urine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well hydrated.
Yeah, but the beer equivalent of cordial when your mum was mixing it and she didn't want
you using too much power.
100%.
You're like, can I have a little bit more?
No, that's got plenty in it.
One teaspoon is what it says.
Yeah.
No, mum, it's one sachet per litre.
No, no, one teaspoon.
That's all you're going to get.
So it went up.
But yeah, apparently made by the original owners of the brewery
and everything were Germans and the German brewers came in.
And then after a little while it got sold to a more local company,
but now it's owned by a Belgian beer brewing company.
Corona.
But all the marketing is like, you know, a Mexican beer.
It always says Cerveza on it, which is Mexican for beer, right?
And it all looks very Mexican.
But no, not.
BS, we've been lied to.
We've been lied to.
It was German.
So today's our fact of the day is Corona is a German beer, technically.
Play ZM's Fletch von Anele.
Play ZM. This week's Fact of the Day theme is national dishes that aren't,
that didn't originate in the country that you associate them with.
Yeah.
And today we're talking hot dogs.
Get your hot dogs.
Well, they're German, aren't they?
They are German, but they're the national dish of America.
They're American hot dogs.
I suppose so.
When you buy them at the carnival, they call them
American hot dogs. Yeah, they do.
Are we talking hot dogs as in the bun?
In the bun. Corn dogs is what
you're... Yeah. But we
call them hot dogs. We do. And I think that's why we call
American hot dogs American hot dogs.
To differentiate. Because we call
the sausage on the stick and the batter, we call them
hot dogs as well, even though they're supposed to be corn dogs.
See, I'd rather have one of our hot dogs in the carny sauce
over an American hot dog because it's too much bread.
If someone said to me right now,
I'll get you a corn dog dipped in carny sauce,
I'd pay a hundred bucks.
I love them.
If someone said right now,
oh my God, I just want one so bad.
Yum, they're so good.
A hundred bucks.
No, I'm just saying right now. But, they're so good. A hundred bucks. No, it's like, I'm just saying, right now.
But what if someone shows up in five minutes with one?
And they're like, where's my hundred bucks?
Oh, please don't.
Oh, please don't.
I won't pay a hundred bucks.
They'll expect a hundred bucks.
I'll pay you five bucks.
They'll probably spark up the deep fryer and everything.
It's probably, you know, a fair setup somewhere.
I'm just talking about, I would give anything to have one in my hand.
Like that, right now.
Have you ever had the one where they, What do they call them? And they smash
all the other stuff into the batter?
Have you ever had the corn dog
where the chips, like hot
hot chips are chopped up into little
bits and they put them in the batter and so they put the batter
on and then they like smash it like sprinkles
on an ice cream set. Oh yeah. And they call them
like ugly dogs or something and they've got a whole
lot of different ones. Right. And sometimes it's dog and they call them like ugly dogs or something and they've got a whole lot of different ones
right
and sometimes it's chips
and it can be like
bacon bits and stuff
and then they batter again
and deep fry it
yeah
I've had one in my life
and my heart
my heart was like
you can't do this to me
I don't care
heart
you shut up
you take it
so hot dogs
are German
of course the sausages
and the hot dogs
are called frankfurters
yes traditionally zevena exactly, the sausages in the hot dogs are called Frankfurters. Yes.
Zavenas.
Traditionally.
Zavena.
Exactly.
All right.
So the hot dog is not American.
It's German.
But also, add into this, hot dogs, because I've never known why they're called hot dogs,
standby.
Standby.
Don't guess.
Don't guess.
Standby.
Standby.
Standby.
Don't guess.
They're bastardized from three separate German names.
Frankfurter sausages were a bit formal.
Okay.
So when they first got to America
they called them
hot dachshunds.
Oh like the dogs.
Like the dogs.
Yeah except Americans
could neither spell
nor pronounce dachshund.
So then they were just like
let's just call them
hot dogs.
Oh my god
I've never thought about it.
I know I've never thought
why they were called
hot dogs either.
But now we call
the dachshunds
sausage dogs.
Exactly.
So if you ask for a hot dog
what you probably get was a wiener in a bun
from the English word wiener,
which is a loan word from German,
meaning from Vienna.
Meaning Vaughan Smith.
Vienna.
Wiener.
You're a wiener.
I'm more of a Savoy.
I'm more of a Savoy boy myself.
You're a wiener.
People call people wieners? What a strange thing.
Weird times.
It's triggering.
I remember. So if you ask for a hot dog, what you're ready to get
is a wiener and a bun, which of course wiener is a loan word
from German meaning... You upset the little Sav.
So the Sav...
The Sav's upset.
So that's a loan word from German
meaning from Vienna. We've talked about this before.
Wienerschnitzel is Wienerschnitzel from Vienna.
And we always think it's German, but it's Wienerschnitzel.
So we say Wienerschnitzel, referring to Vienna sausages or Wiener sausages.
And then we go full circle because Dachshunds are now often called sausage dogs.
Sausage dogs or Wiener dogs.
So when they are, so I mean, you're getting a two for here.
Yeah.
The hot dog isn't American.
It's German.
And when they first went to America, the hot dog in the bun with mustard,
with sauce, with onions.
Yes.
If you're not getting onions, grow up.
Grow up.
Grow up and get onions.
Was originally called a hot dush hound.
Today's, oh, this week's Fact of the Day theme is national dishes that don't come from the country.
You think they do.
Loving it, by the way, Vaughan.
Just some feedback midweek.
Loving it.
Loving it.
Do you remember that time we did calendars?
Oh my God.
It was so embarrassing.
Calendar's week. Calendar's Week.
Calendar's Week was a favourite.
People loved Calendar's Week.
I don't think they did.
General feedback.
Word on the street.
We did some Vox Pops.
We did love it.
It's a cult classic.
At the time, it was underappreciated,
but, you know, a couple of months down the track,
people are gagging for a replay.
They weren't.
They're gagging for a replay.
So every June the 4th,
oh no, sorry, it's the first Friday in June.
Okay.
Every year in the UK is National Fish and Chips Day.
Yum.
Now we love fish and chips here in Aotearoa, New Zealand, don't we?
Yes, we do.
I don't think they came from there, did they?
They did not come from anywhere.
Yeah, I knew he was going to say that.
Where'd they come from?
That's the idea of the entire week, you knob. I reckon it's not from the UK. I reckon it did not come from England. Yeah, I knew he was going to say that. Where'd they come from? That's the idea of the entire week,
you knob. I reckon it's not from the UK.
I reckon it's not from the UK. I reckon it comes
from a different country, but the UK claimed it.
I bet you. I'll put money
on it. Okay, what country then?
Denmark. Yeah, I was going to say
a Scandinavian country. Yeah, fish.
Because of the fish. No, they pick all their
fish up there. Is it somewhere in Europe?
It is somewhere in Europe.
It's not Italy. It's not Italy.
It's not Italy.
It's not Spain.
It's got to be coastal.
It's coastal.
Netherlands.
Very coastal.
Which is crazy to Vaughan because he only just learnt that countries touch.
I thought every country was coastal.
Countries can touch.
Who knew?
Every country was surrounded by water.
I thought that big block of land was just one big country.
That was just big Europe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Big Europe-Asia.
Europe-Asia.
Europe-Asia, Africa.
Fish and chips.
Fish and chips.
So it's not the Netherlands.
Fish me want to lick my lips.
Eat them for breakfast, lunch and tea.
Fish and chips are for me.
I've never heard that song before.
I like green bananas and pink ice cream.
Where does this song...
Wildly jelly makes me scream.
Mum's hamburgers are pretty cool,
but I like fish and chips best of all.
No, it's fish and chips rule at the end of that, I think.
I can't remember.
I went to a DSL1 school.
Was this like a British kid's song?
No, no, no.
This song came around in the 80s, not the 50s.
Fish and chips.
Yeah, fish and chips.
Wow.
Makes me want to lick my lips.
I've never heard this song in my life.
That's legit.
No.
Where are fish and chips from?
Portugal.
Remember we talked about it earlier in the week.
These Portuguese, these cheeky Portuguese.
And the temporals from it. Of course. Because These Portuguese, these cheeky Portuguese. And the tempura was from there.
Of course.
Because they battered and deep fried things.
Yum.
They battered and deep fried it.
And they, on their many travels, took them around the world.
But it wasn't until like much later on that it became England's national dish.
Right.
Because if you think of English national dishes, it's all gross.
Yeah.
It's all gross stuff.
Mushy peas, though.
Yeah.
It's a roast from there.
It's a roast from there.
Yeah, Yorkshire Puds.
Yorkshire Puds.
Yeah, right.
Gravy roast.
But the roasts were like for the high and mighty.
It wasn't an everyday person's yum-yums.
Oh, yeah, Vaughan, because they couldn't afford an oven.
I know.
That's one of the many reasons that they couldn't enjoy a roast.
And they didn't have a King's Roast shop in the corner.
No.
It's named after their king. They still sing the fish and
chip song at school. Yeah, dude.
My kids are singing along. My kids came home singing it
a few years ago and I joined in and they were just
like, how do you do this song? I was like, I too was
a child once. Yeah, man. It was huge
in the 90s. I missed out on that when I was a child.
I like green bananas and I can probably find it. What do you in the 90s. I wouldn't have missed out on that when I was a child. I like green bananas
and pink ice cream.
I can probably find it.
What do you reckon it's called?
You don't have to.
Wobbly jelly
makes me scream.
Fish and chip song.
Fish and chip song,
New Zealand.
Yeah, here it is.
So many people messaging.
Here we go.
Right.
England's national dishes
take a masala.
Fish and chips.
Shannon sucks.
Green bananas and pink ice cream.
Wobbly jelly makes me scream.
Munchkin burgers are pretty cool, but I like fish and chips best of all.
Oh, there it is.
And not a great rhyme.
Fish and chips.
Yeah.
Fish and chips.
You've been missed out, Fletch.
I want to lick my lips. You've got to listen, Fletch. Make me want to lick my lips.
You've got to listen to the second verse.
What I know is a pre-recorded song.
That's why I missed out on it.
That was the 90s.
You wouldn't encourage children to be eating fish and chips at breakfast.
Fish and chips are for me.
No.
I like peanut butter on my bread.
Maybe mom might add honey instead.
Oh my God.
I like spaghetti and Coco Pops.
But fish and chips are the tops.
Fish and chips.
Never heard this before in my life.
I said there's more verses.
This is the bongo drum interlude.
Please don't tap your watch at me.
This is the bongo drum interlude.
Even though this is more of a steel drum than a bongo drum.
Nothing is more important than listening to this song right now.
Fish and chips.
Makes me want to lick my lips.
Eating for breakfast lunch.
Oh, should they go back to the green bananas and pig eyes?
Okay, so they just repeat.
They could have cut that off halfway through, but.
Fish and chips.
Just some feedback.
For me.
Yeah.
So today's fact,
fish and chips aren't even British,
they're Portuguese.
Clay, Zed M's, Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.
This week at Fact of the Day,
it's been national dishes that weren't invented where you think they were.
Basically.
Loving this.
I'm going to do some quick fire ones today.
Oh, great.
I feel like these are the ones that people might know.
Probably a bit more well known
that they're not where you think they're from.
Yep.
Hawaiian pizza.
Not from Hawaii. Not from Hawaii.
Not from Hawaii.
Where is it from?
Canada.
I was going to say America.
A Greek immigrant called Sam Panopoulos,
which is weird because his name almost sounds like pineapple,
and that's what he put on the pizza.
Panopoulos.
Panopoulos.
He said that they were making like traditional American food and stuff,
but started experimenting with trendier foods
Chinese American dishes and such
and one of the main ingredients
used in a lot of Chinese
meals was pineapple
and he's like we put a fruit on a pizza
and then he only said Hawaiian pizza
because it said
Hawaiian pineapple on the can
oh ok
I love pineapple on a stir fry and in a sweet, sweet and sour.
If there's a Hawaiian pizza around, I'll just eat it.
And I'll be like, that's yum.
Yum.
Yeah.
Like a really nicely like wood-fired Hawaiian pizza.
With good ham.
Great ham.
Yeah.
Nice cheese.
Lots of cheese.
And like a flame-grilled pineapple.
That's right.
They've flame-grilled it before they put it on the pizza.
So it's like smoked on it. Yum. I'm not too good for that. Almost caramel pineapple. That's right. The flame grilled it before they put it on the pizza. So it's like smoked on.
Yum.
I'm not too good for that.
Almost caramelized.
Yeah, yum.
That's got to be one of my top tier pizzas.
Okay.
Yeah.
But then if I was ordering one pizza for myself,
I'd never get Hawaiian.
I'd never do Hawaiian.
But when it's around, I'm not upset.
Yeah.
The next, croissants.
Not French.
Not French.
Where are they? Austrian. Oh.
Oh, that makes sense. They love their pastries.
An Austrian kipfel, which
was a traditional yeast bread roll made with
lots of butter that is rolled and formed into a crescent
before baking. And so it went flaky and pastry.
So the French kind of
stole it. Yeah. Okay.
Sauerkraut.
Polish. Nope. Okay. Yeah. Sauerkraut. Polish.
Nope.
Chinese.
Oh.
Yeah, the Chinese were making.
Because everyone goes German, German, German. German, German.
It's a sauerkraut.
Yeah.
German.
Kimchi sauerkraut, but Korean, right?
Yeah.
Different spices.
Apparently while building the Great Wall of China,
it was a staple fermented cabbage.
Oh, yeah.
Because it would last forever.
It would last forever.
You'd be able to take it with them.
Yeah. You're good gut when you're building a wall like that. It would last forever. You'd be able to take it with them. Yeah.
You're good gut when you're building a wall like that.
And good gut health.
No wonder they built a great wall.
They got a great wall made.
Great wall out of it.
Yep.
I'd say when it comes to walls, one of the best.
I'd say thousands died.
Yeah.
Tens of thousands died making that wall.
Yeah.
But they didn't die hungry.
No, they didn't.
And they had good gut health.
Great gut health.
Yeah.
Cheesecake.
American?
I always thought American because of the factory.
Yeah.
And you had New York style cheesecake.
Cheesecake.
A very well known.
It would surely be European.
Asian?
Greek.
African.
Oh, Greek.
Ancient Greek.
Ancient Greek too.
The Greeks made.
I don't think he knows that Greece is in Europe.
It's fine. He only just let the countries touch. Countries touch. I don't think he knows that Greece is in Europe. It's fine.
He only just let the countries touch.
Countries touch.
You have been to Greece.
I have been.
Why did you forget you've been to Greece?
I've been with you to Athens and Mykonos.
That is Greece.
And the countries touch.
Some of them touch in Europe.
But that island, what country is that island that we went to?
It's a Greek island.
No, but the Greece part touches.
Are you telling me countries can not touch too?
Yeah, some are isolated.
Like New Zealand, for example.
We don't touch another country.
You really should have done geography at school.
No, wait, but Greece has parts of the country that touch other countries.
There's Greece and there's the Greek islands.
Amazing.
I know, crazy, eh?
So the islands are Greece.
Yeah.
Could we just be like, well, actually,
you're that part touching the other parts.
How about we have this island?
Okay, it's getting a bit much for him.
Don't encourage him.
Someone's just sending some T's and P's about Vaughan this morning.
The state of his brain.
That's just from Brad.
Just sending in some T's and P's for the state of Vaughan this morning.
Thanks, Brad.
Yep.
I ate some chicken yesterday that I probably shouldn't have.
Yeah, I think it's gone to the brain.
And it spiraled me.
Because then I panicked and I was like, you know what stops?
And this is my honest thought of why I never get food poisoning.
Yeah.
Alcohol.
It kills the bugs.
So I chased, I got scared about the chicken making me sick,
so I drank some Jamesons.
That would explain the messages that you were sending last night.
I was a little bit.
He was loose-lipped last night.
I was a little bit. Loose-lilipped last night. I was a little bit.
Loose-lipped.
I'm excited because I'm catching up with some mates
who I haven't seen as a group for years tonight.
We're going to the Ys.
I'm going to.
Well, but you know what we're like when we go to a wedding.
We get excited the night before, don't we?
Always have a big night the night before the wedding.
Always have a big night the night before the wedding.
So the Greeks invented cheesecake
and their bloody islands don't touch their main lands.
They've got great surnames.
They've got yogurt and cheese
and all sorts of shenanigans going on over there.
So this week's Fact of the Day has been my pleasure.
Bye.
That chicken's gone to the brain.
Fact of the Day, Day, Day, Day, Day.
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