ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley's Lil Bitta Pod - Project Swiftie!

Episode Date: September 4, 2023

On This Lil Bitta Pod; we've compiled every episode of Project Swiftie into one delicious lil podcast! Listen as Producer Carwen & Producer Shannon guide Hayley through a Taylor Swift Crash Course!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Project Swifty. Oh, and it's Hayley's version, of course. Oh my God, you guys. I've been thinking about this, because obviously this is the biggest thing for us at the moment. They were saying that she's probably the reason America hasn't gone so much into a recession.

But this I don't understand. Oh my God, but we're spending money. Yeah, people are spending money to go to her But this I don't understand. Oh my God, but we're spending money. Yeah, people are spending money to go to our shows. I don't understand. I thought that we were supposed to wind in the spending. But can you still have inflation without a recession? Inflation, without a recession, it just keeps going. So you're saying Taylor Swift is causing hyperinflation.

So people aren't going to be able to afford their groceries because of Taylor Swift. And Beyonce's doing the same. People areinflation. So people aren't going to be able to afford their groceries because of Taylor Swift. And Beyonce's doing the same. People are spending money. It's keeping economies going. Yeah, keeping it going. Keeping people in work as well. But that was the opposite of our problem.

Because interest rates were low, we had too much money to spend. Yeah, look, I think we might need economist Brad Olsen to help us with this one. He came and saw my show in Wellington. He spent money too. He bought those tickets. I didn't give him complimentary. He's causing inflation. So he's causing inflation show in Wellington. He spent money too. He bought those tickets. I didn't give him complimentary. He's causing inflation. So he's causing inflation.

So he went out for dinner afterwards. Oh, who's spending money now? News Brad? No, I appreciate the support. But I've been thinking

about Taylor Swift because I've got to say and I love, I admire her success. I've never been a Taylor Swift fan. Like I've never been You've never been a Swiftie. A Swiftie never been you've never been a Swifty a Swifty

okay I can listen to the music and be like got good music yep and then I'll you know but you're not a Swifty I'm not a Swifty

and you know the weather's been miserable I'm going through a stressful house situation I don't really have much to look forward to at the moment okay that sounds a bit depressing. And then I was like, man, all these people have been messaging

us, messaging me directly. All my friends are like hyped for Taylor Swift. It is the number one thing that is keeping this world happy at the moment. I swear to God, Taylor Swift. And I was like, man, I wish I could feel that buzz. And so I wanted to maybe get the girlies involved

with a little project to try to turn me, who grew up listening to Marilyn Manson and weird emo stuff and a lot of screaming, turn me into a Swifty. Do you think it's possible? Absolutely. It's easy work. I just want to be one of those girls who's like crying in a glittery suit. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yep, yep.

I want to buy a set of cowboy boots and then just learn the guitar. Yes. Your comedy performance outfit is like perfect. It's like the man outfit. Glittery suit. Yeah. I'm wearing a glittery suit. So you're already on the way to being a Swifty.

Oh my God, it's barely going to cost me anything. This is barely going to cost me anything. I mean, yeah, just like tickets and flights. Yeah, I want to go a Swifty. Oh my God, it's barely going to cost me anything. This is barely going to cost me anything. I mean, yeah, just like tickets and flights. Yeah, I want to go the whole way. Yeah. I want to go the whole way. Right.

Do you think that you can turn this strange... This tired old thing. This tired old gal, 33 years old, drove into work this morning listening to System of a Down. Do you reckon you can do it?

I do. I think that Shannon and I will give us maybe three or four weeks. do you reckon you can do it? I do I think that Shannon and I will give us maybe three or four weeks you'll be big as fans is this going to be like boot camp? like I've got to work hard?

we've got different angles Karlyn's good with the history she's diehard because I want to be like a full understand it all I'll be onto the trends we've got some TikToks we can do we've got some trends

it's all let's do it okay I'm going to talk you're not going to be a local. You're going to be the biggest Swifty. What does that mean? Am I a local? What's a local?

Locals are like the fans that go to the concert that know a little bit, but don't know everything. Oh my God, that was me at the last concert. Yeah. Was that me at the last concert? Yeah, you're a local, babe. It's fine. It's not a bad thing.

Yeah, right. But you're going to be a diehard. Feels like it's a bad thing. No, no, no. It sounded like a bad thing. You're going to know what she wore to her prom. But what is going to happen if we do this for four weeks? I become a Swifty.

There's no tickets available. I'm not taking the ones we're giving away. That would be selfish. Well, we'll go on the live streams, you and I. We'll watch the live streams together. Can I still get an outfit? Yeah. Oh, I'll be dressing up to watch the live streams from Auckland.

Don't you worry. Can I get her dating history? Do I want to know all this? Yeah, a little bit dressing up to watch the live streams from Auckland. Don't you worry. Can I get her dating history? Do I want to know all this? Yeah, a little bit. It's not the most important. Okay.

Oh, I see. I've already hit a sour point there. Yeah, you have. She gets critiqued too much for her dating life.

Okay, Project Swifty. Right, so your homework for this week. I've got homework? Mm-hmm. It's going to be

fun work. Mm-hmm. Okay. It's like home play. And then after this I'll teach you guys everything about Queen. Yeah, perfect.

And where was Freddie Mercury from. For sure. I might check my schedule. Yeah, okay. So what's my homework for this week? So homework for this week is to go head over to Netflix. This is an easy one. Head over to Netflix.

I've seen it. Watch her documentary, Miss Americana. You're already there. I've seen it, I think. I think I watched some of it. Oh, we'll re-watch. We'll re-watch. And then also because you need to see a concert to just

know what the atmosphere is like, how much she performs. She's a theatre kid. Oh my goodness. I'm hooked in there. On YouTube, illegally, but don't tell anyone, she has the 1989 World Tour. When you say anyone, like everybody listening right now. We've got quite a few listeners apparently. No, as long as they don't tell anyone. She has the 1989 World Tour. When you say anyone, like everybody listening right now.

We've got quite a few listeners apparently. No, as long as they don't tell YouTube. Yeah, don't tell YouTube. The 1989 World Tour is uploaded onto YouTube. Okay. And in exchange, can we send her the recording of my show? And she can watch mine? Yeah, for sure.

We'll just call Taylor up. Yeah, exchange. Okay, so I'm going to watch the doco and the concert. Yeah. Project Swifty Sprout begins. I think you've got your work cut out for you. I'm ready for it. Do we have to do a Hayley's version of Taylor Swift?

Because she's got a much higher voice than me. Yeah, let's do it. It's you. Nope. Let's let you get your falsetto back. Yeah, let's get my falsetto back. Play. ZDM's Fletchvorn and Hayley.

Project Swifty. Oh, and it's Hayley's version Of course Oh my god you guys I'm sorry Did we get Taylor Swift To do a voiceover For this project? I think we bootlegged that too Oh my god

It's Hayley's version So this is Project Swifty Hayley's version Where our girlies Are turning me into a Swifty because I respect how well she's done but I can't say I've been a listener you know like I

listen to other things and now that Taylor Swift is dominating the world and that so many of our listeners are so excited and crying about winning these tickets I sort of want to understand it more. So I've asked Shannon and Carwin.

Can you not just relate to like some of your emo bands? Yeah. Yeah. Not really. It's just a different energy. Yeah, right. It's a different energy. Being a Swifty is a whole different breed.

You want that energy. I just want to be part of this moment in history. Right. I don't want to be one of those people on the outside being like, shut up, she's not that good. Because it's stupid. She obviously is. Yeah.

She's the biggest artist in the world right now. So producer Carwin and producer Chanelette Pajamas. Big Swifties. Huge Swifties. The biggest. You've taken it upon yourselves to turn me into a Swifty. Yeah, look, this is something I've always wanted to do, honestly. I know.

You're always trying to change me. My brain is half Taylor Swift knowledge. I know. So why not pass that on to someone? Put it to good use. I know. So you guys sent me some homework to kickstart this. A light start, shall we say.

I had to watch Miss Americana on Netflix and the 1989 bootleg filmed tour. It used to be on Netflix. Did you say bootleg? I said bootleg. You've come to the right place.

Yeah, I know. Did you do this? I did. Now, I will say Is this why you didn't reply to my funny memes I sent? Yeah, you sent so many funny memes and I just ignored them

because I was swifting. Haley, yesterday, ignored my funny memes all day. But sent so many funny memes and I just ignored them because I was Swifting. Haley yesterday ignored my funny memes all day. But she was doing her homework. I know, I usually respond. I was so rude. I'm sorry, I'm becoming a Swifty. This is just, they were good. This is just what's going to happen. Why were they so good? You may feel me, boys, you may feel me

drift further away as I become a Swifty. That's okay. I thought you'd be devastated. You drift a little too close sometimes. I do. I'm pretty handsy. Now I will say the 1989 concert you sent me is two hours. I skimmed it. That's not

Swifty material. I'm not a Swifty yet. So two hours of Taylor Swift is a bit much. By the end of this you're going to watch that on repeat. I trust you. I, re-watch. So it's fine. I trust you.

I'm in your hands. How many times have you watched it, Carwen? Being the biggest Swifty. So when it was released years ago, it was on Apple Music. And I didn't have Apple Music. So I paid for it for like one month and then just watched it multiple times. Yeah, right. And then cancelled my subscription.

Watched it every day that month. But now it's on YouTube. I've watched it twice this week, I'll be honest. Yeah. Holy moly. That's four hours. It's a lot of time. It's great.

Yeah, just like atmosphere in the house. Every time you walk past, you'll just like strike a little pose with it. You know, pretend you've got a golf club. I'm not there yet. Here's my takeaways from this homework, right? Miss Americana, we'll start with the documentary. One, I'm a real music snob.

And when pop musicians don't write their own music or they don't play their own music, I'm pretty quick to write them off. I did learn that Taylor Swift is very much a musician. She plays guitar, she plays piano, she writes her own songs. She's very heavily creatively involved and I respect that. I'm giving respect.

Her respect is due. She cried when she wasn't nominated for an award and I relate to that. Being a winner. Have you a winner have you cried have you well I've always been nominated but the one or two times I haven't it really upsets me

I like recognition in the form of awards and money yeah so I was like that the other thing I related heavily to wait a minute what awards give money

I've never won an award with any financial benefit like theatre awards gave money it was like the best thing ever oh and they reckon the arts are a hard done boy. Yeah, yeah. He's getting a thousand dollars.

He's getting a thousand bucks just before Christmas. For winning an award. Who sponsored it? Not that guy that's in jail now. Nah, the Chapman Trip lawyers. Oh, good. Oh, God, no, not him.

Oh, no, he wasn't involved. He wasn't involved. Okay, right. She likes cats. I like cats. That's what I learned. She puts a cat in a backpack. She's got a Scottish fold.

Yeah, she's got that. That thing can't be long for this world. Or some countries have banned them. Heavily bred. Some countries have banned Scottish Folds. But they're so cute. They're like British Shorthairs. They're real cute. Their face got smashed in with a spade and then someone gave them an air job. No, you're thinking of a

squishy face cat. A Burmese? They can't breathe. Scottish Folds have the flat breathe. Oh, the Scottish Files have the flat face. No, you're thinking... They have a semi-flat face. Yeah, not a flat face.

They're like my cat, but they've got the ears. Do they cut their ears? They're like the little Japanese cats. Lots of people in Japan have them. So you're very related

to Taylor Swift. I'm very related. The other thing I'm related to is because Taylor Swift, she's a mega superstar, but she still puts ice in her wine. She puts ice in her wine

if it's not cold enough. I put ice in my wine if I can't be bothered. Wait, she's rich enough to have someone to bring her wine at whatever temperature she wants. She's like, no, don't worry about it. Just open it now. I'll put a cube of ice in it. I like this. Now suddenly Taylor Swift doesn't seem so unrelatable to me. I could be a Swifty.

She's just like us. As for the world tour, the 1989 world tour, I would say it feels a bit cheap. The costumes weren't great. The first costume, she comes out in like a $2 shop pair of white sunglasses, and I was like, hell no, what is the budget on this thing? It did have a rotating stage that I appreciated, and a lot of people were really into it,

and I thought that would be a nice vibe to be in. The dancing is bad. She needed a bit of Periscopal. This was a different time. The dancing is tragic. She's improved a lot since then. Did you notice the biggest thing about that tour is there's a very famous editing error where at one point she does like a Michael Jackson type lean onto one of her dancers. Oh, again, it was a different time, was it?

Jesus, we're not referring to that guy, are we? Watch my hand. Watch me demonstrate it, right? This is the dancer, my hand, and then she kind of leans. Yeah. We see that from the front angle. We see the dancer. Second angle, dancer's disappeared.

They've edited him out. She's floating. It was the orca that she had in the tank that I didn't like about that. All the dolphins and stuff. Different time. Anyway, like, I enjoyed myself. I enjoyed my homework. I'm looking forward to my next project.

Next week, we're talking trends. Internet trends. Song trends. Okay. Trends. I'm going to get trendy next week, guys're talking trends. Internet trends, song trends, trends. I'm going to get trendy next week, guys. Watch me swift. Play ZM's Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley.

Oh my God, you guys. Now, Project Swifty. Project Swifty is turning me, Hayley, a bit of a classic rock metal girl, into a Swifty because I'm so excited about all the hype that I want to experience and I need this. Chips are going to not be around. The planet's on fire.

Hot chips are going to be around. They're just going to be more expensive and they're going to import them. They're going to be Dutch. Everything's more expensive. So they're going to be long and straight. Long and skinny. Yeah.

You like it girth. I like girth when it comes to a chip and a bit of texture. Yeah. Ribbed. No, I've got no time for crinkle cut chips. What? Get them out of here.

They hold the sauce so well. Stop. Get crinkle cut rules. It's more surface area to be deep fried. It's worse for you. There's no doubt about it, but that's so young. Stop making, stop. If crinkle cut disappeared.

Crinkle cut can only be deep fried in oil as well. They can't be oven baked. They don't oven bake well. I don't have an air fryer, so I can't speak to air frying. We'll do Friday rankings, chip styles. I like that idea. Including a wedge, a shoestring. Yeah.

Anyway, so on my- A wedge. That is a chip. No, no, no, no, no. It's a wedge. A wedge is a wedge. Yeah, but it's a form of chip. No, no, no, no, no.

It's a form of potato. It's potato, but then why are we including mash and potato tots? I'll see you on Friday. I'll tell you what, Friday's final rankings. And we're including potato tots.

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, we're including potato. No, we've done forms of potato. We all said mashed. No, but now we're doing chips. Chip styles. Chip styles. I like to think

Taylor Swift would not like crinkle cut fries. Taylor Swift's a shoestring girl, you can tell. It depends what era she's in. I don't know. Well, the girlies who are helping me become a Swiftie. I just said that and then turned for instant gratification from the producers

because I've used the term era. You did good. And I'm an old fan. You did good, Vaughn. Carween and Chanelette are the ones tasked with turning me into a Swiftie. Kia ora, girls. Good morning. Good morning.

So where are we at? What do I need to learn next? So last week you looked over the history, you watched some movies, some docos, you know, the tour. This week it's all about trends. We're talking what you need to know if you were going to the Errors Tour. I'm trendy.

Exactly. So after the show today, I'm going to task you with some TikToks, alright? We're going to film some trends. You're going to be running through the office. This is good. You want to build your TikTok career. You've always said this. I said that almost a year ago and I haven't made any since.

Well, don't worry. Today's the day. We're going to have you running through the office to a song called August. I'm quite unfit. It's all good. You're going to look glorious. We did a class yesterday. You're fine.

You're going to do one gym class and then fix your fitness. I also hope you bought a spare change of clothes because we are heading to the work showers and it's going to get wet. I didn't bring a... I'll have to go nude. Okay, well, we'll just crop up. It's good. That'll get the bloody followers going.

Yeah, exactly. So we're going to do some TikToks after the show today. So if you want to see them, head to FVHZM on TikTok. But we're also going to get you across some chants. Now, during the ERA's tour, she has some special songs where the fans get into it, you know? People will sing along.

U-G-L-Y You ain't got no alibi You ugly Hey, hey You ugly Hey, hey Yeah, similar. Yeah, kind of.

It's a bit more... Oh, Mickey, you're so fine You're so fine You blow my mind Hey, Mickey Hey, Mickey Yeah, like that. Yeah, kind of. It's a bit more... Oh, Mickey, you're so fun, you're so fun, you blow my mind. Hey, Mickey. Hey, Mickey. Yeah, like that. Yeah, sure.

I'm going to task you with one for Onia right now, okay? And the boys can join in on this. Okay. Oh, wait, no. Is there clapping? There's clapping. Because you know I can't do that. He does five claps in the Friends theme song.

Actually, they both do. Don't worry. This one's only two claps. So better odds for Fletch. Okay. She has the song You Belong With Me. It's a classic from the Fearless era. Of course, Hayley, you must be across this.

Yep. And so when she gets to the lyrics, you know I'm going to laugh when I'm about to cry. After the word cry, I need you all to go. We just need two claps. Okay. Yeah, are you ready? Yeah.

I missed it. You guys missed it. You said you're about to cry and she said I'm about to cry. I was referring to Taylor crying. Yeah, right. I was waiting for the next time where she changed it. No, I'm about to cry. Oh, for God's sake, Fletch.

To be fair, he was holding it. You've got to get your hand off the mouse if you want to play. Okay, ready? And again, and again. We're going to nail this. Very hard for me to do this. Oh, I can't. Real late, though.

He's not even on the offbeat. He's half a quarter of the way. I see you guys clapping, then I can't. Real late, though. He's not even on the offbeat. He's half a quarter of the way. I see you guys clapping, then I do it. No, we're all together. Yeah, okay. All right, so that's the homework and TikTok's after the show. Yeah, we've got some more charts we'll do as well, and we might even have you doing them in the office.

I think you need to be put up against the people. Okay, thank you. Thank you. I'm really serious about this. I'm taking it very seriously. I want to become a Swifty swiftly. Yes. So I will put in the mahi and get it done.

Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. Play ZM. Project Swifty. Hayley. The journey continues. Transforming me into a Swifty. Now if you haven't headed to our TikTok and seen, I did a few TikToks

as instructed by the TayTay girls and I think I nailed them. I even got in the shower at work in my clothes. That was a bit wild. People love to wear jandals. That shower, I don't know, that seems like a jandals shower. Yeah, that's a... No, raw dog dip. You're raw dog dip. I reckon there's some athletes put in that shower. Yeah, I don't know. That seems like a jandals shower. No, raw dogged it. You raw dogged it.

I reckon there's some athletes put in that shower. Yeah, a bit of a fungal thing happening now. But anyway, I am ready for my next task. Yeah, beautiful. And I will say, you were so good on TikTok. I was very proud of you. I know. So today, after the show,

Carwen and I will be running you through a Taylor Swift seminar. We have spent hours crafting a presentation to show you, explaining every album, every pop culture moment throughout the 10 eras. Everything you need to know to nail Taylor Swift knowledge. Wow.

Okay. Do you know I'm really good at studying? I'm really good at memorising things. I'm thick as. But I did so well at school because I would just cram. Goes in. Goes in, and then it goes out, and it's gone. Well, I'll send you the link afterwards. You can study over it.

Okay. This is why you're good at remembering lines. Yeah. For your acting. Really good for all the acting I do. So from this seminar, am I going to be quizzed on this? You are going to need to absorb all that information. And then on Thursday, you will be doing a Hayley's version.

God, it's been a while. It's been a while. She's been renovating. What about all of the knowledge of Taylor Swift? Yes, about everything that you've learned. Okay. And you'll perform that for us on this Thursday. Two days.

Two days. You've made it tight. Don't worry. We'll be you'll perform that for us on this Thursday. Two days. Yeah, two days. You've made it tight. Don't worry, we'll be great teachers. It'll be nice and easy. So I'm going to sit through a seminar. Are the boys coming to this seminar? God, no. Beg your pardon?

Oh, I'm busy. Don't want this. You don't even know when it is yet. I know all the Taylor Swift things anyway. Oh, crazy. What's your favourite era? What mistakes? Probably when she threw it on that fan mail.

No, era. It was what you would call an era. Era of judgement. Era. Ah. Dating John Mayer? That was an era? Yeah.

Okay. Okay, well, I will absorb this knowledge and I'll do a Hayley's version. But she's got such a big voice, I don't know what song. I'll do a version. It'll be delicious. Okay, you perform this

for us on Thursday. I will. What Taylor Swift song are you going to pick? Yeah, I know that's what I'm trying to think because her voice is so much higher than mine.

You've got about 250 to pick from. 250! Play ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Hayley. You have been tasked with writing a Hayley's version. I have been.

It's been a real hot minute. But the girlies tasked me with this. And do you know what? It kind of had a double effect on me. Because not only did I have to run through all of her eras and learn about them. And now I feel like I know quite a lot as a Swifty. But also I had to listen to almost every Taylor Swift song to find a song that I could sing. I was like, oh, I'll sing this one.

And then she's like, I was like, okay, no, can't reach that note. What about that? Oh, this one's easy. I was like, oh, no, so can't do that. Literally, there was one song that I could sing. And so you're going to change the lyrics to the song to encompass all of her errors.

All of her errors, of which there are a number. So let's just get into it. I don't know how you do this, by the way. Every time you do a Hayley's version, it's never pre-recorded. You always do it live. I know. You read the words from the screen.

Sharon's been saying all morning, what are we using for the background? What's happening? Can you send it to me? And you're like, yep. And then like 15 minutes ago, you were like, da-da-da, singing to yourself. I was like, oh yeah, just finishing touches. Yeah, so how's this gonna go? Well, because I'm writing a song about an artist who has made so many albums, I

couldn't leave any of them out or the Swifties would have rioted. So here's my version of Look What You Made Me Do, the only Taylor Swift song I can sing. And this is me recounting all of her eras. Thanks to the Swifties who gave me this seminar on the eras. Buckle in. Blonde girl with a country flair And lots of curly hair

Debut is on the air And it's fine if you like a Christian vibe Then her next album it hits While she's dating Joe Jonas. That album was fearless and she won for best album. But then Kanye West showed her up at the VMAs. He thought Beyonce was better and so he stormed the stage. And we can all never forget the look on Taylor's face when he said,

I'ma let you finish Tay oh ooh you hear the audience boo like what did he just do like what the hell is effing Kanye West actually up to you need to calm down dude yeah single ladies ruled but so was Taylor's video love story was good too. Then next came Speak Now. This third, I don't know this one that well. But she wrote it all herself. And it called John Mayer out. What? Cause I hear he was inappropriate given her age.

So she broke up with him and put her feelings on a page Ten years on she'll write about him again Cause nothing sparks a Taylor hit like disappointing men And then we move on to an album that I actually know One of the tracks on Rent went viral due to screaming goads And now Jake Gyllenhaal inspired all the songs she wrote Jake, you were never ever getting back together bro hi her next era is fine it's 1989 which makes me realize that we were born at

the same time but where are her frown lines because you can see on mine she probably wears sunscreen and drinks far less fizzy wine suddenly Suddenly there is a reptile on stage. It's Carmen Kanye West called Taylor Swift on Snake. Reputation also was the last for Scooter Braun. And from what I know, we don't like Scooter Braun, no. Finally she parted ways with that awful dude. And the next era looks like a unicorn spewed. Lover Aerie sadly got nipped in the bud.

Cause COVID-19 really effed things up. We're getting through these eras. This is the iconic moment of the song. I'm sorry. Hayley can't come to the phone right now. Why? Cause she has to write a song in a night. Oh, ooh, there's still more to get through.

There's three more we could do. There's three more eras that I have to cover in this tune. And Folklore is just one with hits on Cardigan. And then released evermore, which was its sister album. The last era is here. It was released last year. The Midnight Era hits, we always play them all on air. And now she's on tour.

So listen, 8 and 12 and 4. Because her tickets sold out, but ZM still has more. Oh, my God. There was no, like, repeating chorus. Highlight what you have written down and word count that for me. The information that you just got across in that time was outstanding. Okay. And not a single mistake.

Wait, there was a little trippy up there. That's right. A little trippy up there is not a mistake. Tolls, word count. I have just given you 500 words. Right. On Taylor Swift's eras. None of them were missing out.

Girls, did I miss any? Four marks? Did you get four marks? Like 1,000 out of 100. I could cry. I'm so proud. And now I know it all. And I also know that Taylor Swift has a higher singing range than me.

And that's the oldest song I can sing. Does that make Hayley a Swifty now, officially? Yeah, I think it does. You've done so good. Oh, another one in the bag. It's a Versace bag as well. If you enjoyed that,

give us a rating and a review and be sure to tell your mates. You don't sound sincere there, but I'm just reading what's written here. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Hayley.