ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 11th October 2021

Episode Date: October 10, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The ZM Podcast Network. Play! ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Hello, welcome to the Fletch, Vaughan and Megan podcast. Thanks to McCafe, Barista made coffee available from drive-thru and McDelivery Level 3 and also Dine-In Level 2. Megan now joining the world of smartphone users that don't have a button. Yeah, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Well, on the screen I mean. Everyone's got the volume buttons and stuff. I got myself a new phone, and I had to get one better than everyone here. So, ha-ha, my phone's better than yours now. Unbelievable. I've already turned the light on a few times. Also know why you waited so long for yours. Why?
Starting point is 00:00:40 Because you had to get that pink one. Yeah. It's like baby pink. My friend ordered one and got it like three days later. Megan's like, I've got mine taken forever. And it's because she went specific. I wanted the baby pink. But I don't get the point of getting colors because you put a case on it.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Unless you're going to put a clear case on it. But you can still see where the camera bit is. And I bought a baby pink case too. Of course you have. Of course you have. Yeah, I've left the light on a couple of times um i've just learned how to screenshot accidentally and i almost took a picture while i was in the bath yesterday i don't even know how i did it i was on like facebook and then it suddenly came up with like uh the camera jeez you uploaded a picture of your man in the bath
Starting point is 00:01:22 that's having the best of us. I was like, oh my god. Have you noticed that Facebook on the app, I don't know if this is the same for Samsung users, but there's a plus right by the bottom right corner now to upload a post. What? Maybe that's what I did. And it is dangerous.
Starting point is 00:01:39 And it came up with the camera. It is dangerous. What are you talking about? I literally almost posted my vagina. Look at that. No, I don't have that. Why don't you have about? I literally almost posted my vagina. Look at that. No, I don't have that. Why don't you have that? I don't have it and I don't want it. Maybe you haven't updated to the latest.
Starting point is 00:01:51 So, like, there's a plus right there and it's just where your thumb hovers when you just. Oh, no, no. That must have been what I'd done. Yeah, and there's no way to. So, yeah, be careful. Be bloody careful. I waited and I was like, I'm sure I didn't do it. But then I was like, would you guys message me and be like,
Starting point is 00:02:10 hey, your vagina's on. Oh, no, I'd give it 10. Do you remember when? I'd give it 10. I was like, I'm not sure if you would. When you clicked the Ray-Bans link or something happened with the Ray-Bans link and then we tried to call you and you're like, my don't answer calls. And then Fletch tried to call you And then we tried to call you, and you're like, I don't answer calls. And then Fletch tried to call you, and then I tried to call you, and then we were trying
Starting point is 00:02:27 to messaging you, and you were on your usual radio silence. Auntie, you've uploaded a Ray-Bans ad. Oh, Auntie, it's 95% off Ray-Bans. ZM, Fletch, Vaughn, and Megan. Thanks, Rachel. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughn, and Megan. Three minutes past six. Good morning. Welcome to the show. Fleeche, Vaughan and Megan. Three minutes past six.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Good morning. Another shot at ZM's $50,000 secret sound at seven this morning. My neighbour reckons he's got it. Oh, does he? I said everybody thinks they've got it at this stage. He's like, nope. 100%. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:03 100%. Did he tell you? Yep. He told me his guess. Oh, you can't tell her. I haven't heard the sound again since. I'll play it for you now. He's dreaming.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Oh, now I want to know what he... I'll tell you, but I won't tell you on air. What, you reckon that he might have it? No, no, no, no, no. He's dreaming. You don't know what it is. No, but it's not that. Everyone thinks they have it.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Well, a clue as well with Brianne Clint on Friday afternoon. All the clues and the guesses that we had that are incorrect, you can find at ZM Secret Sound. Big guest on the show, 8 o'clock this morning, after the news, Billie Eilish. Tickets for her show next year in September go on sale this Friday. Chat to her.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Guests don't get bigger. They really don't, no. Or maybe... Queen? Yep, I mean, we're never going to get the Queen. That's not the attitude. I thought we were trying to start the week positive. She might want to flog something off in the future.
Starting point is 00:04:09 You don't know. She needs to do some promo. Oh, wait till her son comes out as a convicted paedophile. I'm pretty sure she'll be on the blower then. Oh, no, no. We're all very good people. Coming up, the top six. Yeah, the top six storylines for That 90s Show.
Starting point is 00:04:27 If you've not heard, the legendary 1990s TV show That 70s Show is having a spin-off in the 2020s called That 90s. I thought they did That 80s Show on that plot. They did do That 80s Show. That didn't go well. So far, the original cast members returning Kitty and Reed Foreman, Eric Foreman's mum and dad. Oh, yep.
Starting point is 00:04:46 They were great. Legendary characters. They're going to be playing the grandparents dealing with grandchildren in the 1990s. So the top six storylines for that 90s show. All right, next on the show. Squid Game has seen the revival of something. It's spiked 7,800%.
Starting point is 00:05:02 ZDM's Fletchvorn and Megan. The fact that the whole world is watching Squid Game has meant a 7,800% spike in the revival of slip-on vans. So these are the white slip-on shoes that the people playing Squid Game
Starting point is 00:05:18 wear. They're not even wearing actual vans though. They're just knock-off vans, right? Yeah. In Squid Game? Yeah. They had to buy 456 pairs, and I would imagine that it'd blow your vans budget. It's like the tracksuit's not an Adidas one. No, it's not, no.
Starting point is 00:05:35 It's all cheap AliExpress stuff, isn't it? Yeah. So the slip-on shoes have gone through the roof, but apparently they're saying it's also due to the fact that everyone is going to be wearing Squid Game's costumes to Halloween. So they're like, I'll buy the shoes and then I'll just wear them afterwards. Oh, all birds do some slip-ons for $160. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I demand laces for $160. Sorry, but there's the... I want an oblet. The Vans Classic, $109, because I just searched number one shoes, white slip-ons, but I can't find any from there. Or Hannah's do like an $80 one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I think there's always more of a Chucks guy than a... Yeah, I never... Vans, because I don't know what socks to wear with them. Oh, yeah. You've got to have some ankle hats, don't you? No Because I don't know what socks to wear with them. Oh, yeah. You've got to have some anklets, don't you? No, they weren't. What socks to wear with what? With bands.
Starting point is 00:06:31 The slip-ons. Yeah. You just wear like little ones you can't see. Even little Invisi socks would pop out the top, wouldn't they? Little anklets. Yeah, but then at the time they weren't being worn with anklets. I'm talking like mid-2000s. Yeah, right. They were with a checkered sort of like... Yeah, a then at the time, they weren't being worn with anklets. I'm talking like mid-2000s. Yeah, right. They were with a checkered sort of like.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Yeah, a van sock. Lower calf sock. Yeah. So, I mean, are we going to see a resurgence of these? And shoe horns. We're all going to need to buy shoe horns. Just keep your finger in there. It's got little elastic bits.
Starting point is 00:07:01 No, you need a nice long shoe horn, so you don't need to bend over. You keep the shoehorn by the door. The day I get a shoehorn is the day I know I'm getting on. But there's shoehorns, and then have you seen those real long shoehorns? Yeah, they're for old people. No need to bend. They're for old people. That's the best.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Oh, I don't care. Why are we waiting until we're old and decrepit to enjoy all these sweet things like that chair you sit on that zips you up the stairs? The shoehorn that means you don't have to bend over. Have you seen those things they put over the toilet so they don't have to go all the way down? I've had one of those. I've had one of them too. And they're like, next thing you know, we're going to go around to your house and you have a seat in the shower. Yeah, and a handrail on the toilet.
Starting point is 00:07:43 But also one of those boosted things so i don't have to go all the way down why are we going all the way down to the toilet it's 2021 the toilet should be coming to us okay i yeah can't wait to move into my house yeah when i'm like 50 but it's designed for an 80 year old well you are renovating your bathroom now, so why don't you... Is it too late to get a toilet heightener? Is that a thing? Toilet heightener. Well, you know, kids, I remember when I was looking at toilets, you can get tall ones now, but apparently they're bad for you if you're not old.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Because you're supposed to go low. You're supposed to go low to squat. I'll just get a knee lifter. That's a good position. A knee lifter. I'll pull it out of the wall with a shoe horn. Which I'm just going to have on me at all times. They're like, man, is that for smacking your kids?
Starting point is 00:08:27 I'm like, no, it's for putting shoes on and off without having to bend. Play ZM's Flesh, Fawn and Megan. In America, a study's been done, and it asks parents with children under the age of 18. So the only people that they surveyed were parents with kids under the age of 18. And this only people that they surveyed were parents with kids under the age of 18. And this is a study about travel. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:08:50 I'm familiar with the concept. When you could go overseas. Yeah. Although I did just see Fiji Airways saying that they're going to start New Zealand Fiji flights to Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch from the start of December. So that's kind of, that's getting back to normal isn't it? Yeah. You're going to have to do
Starting point is 00:09:08 the quarantine. Fiji's case numbers. Yeah exactly. You're going to have to come back and do two weeks MIQ. Unless they know something we don't know. True. Well four out of ten parents said they would ditch their kids
Starting point is 00:09:24 in economy if they got a free upgrade to go into business. Wait, kids under 18? Yes. Yes, I can see it from like teens on. So there is a breakdown. So more than 55% of all the parents asked said they would absolutely leave their children to go to business. 9% said they'd leave their child regardless of age. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:09:55 And they said to them, like, even if it was a baby, if it was with airline staff. Those are the same people on the plane that will put on noise-cancelling headphones and let their kids scream. Yeah. Don't worry, he'll headphones and let their kids scream. Yeah. Don't worry, he'll stop soon. He'll scream himself out.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Another 10% would only leave a child older than five with an additional 9% leaving their 10-year-old child alone in economy. How old are they? Are they self-sufficient enough? At 10. Probably still have a whinge about something else. Oh, yeah. Too grumpy. Like, I don't want to brag, mine would be self-sufficient enough? At 10. Probably still have a whinge about something. Oh, yeah. Get grumpy.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Like, I don't want to brag, mine would be. Self-sufficient enough to be left alone. But then you see some 10-year-olds and you're like, no, you can't be left with a sharp item within a vicinity of you. So, no. I was thinking 15 would be my limit where I'd be like, I see it. Surely in the teens would be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Once you're a teenager, you'd be fine. Once you're an intermediate, yeah. You could chill. It's not the fact that they can't look after themselves. I feel the responsibility
Starting point is 00:10:54 to make sure they're not a menace. Right. They're not doing something they shouldn't be. I'm sure they'd survive it. But business class, you get business class. Yeah, I go up in business class
Starting point is 00:11:03 and every now and then I just snap the curtain back From business and be like Hey Hey Every now and then You make that noise Hey
Starting point is 00:11:11 You kind of sometimes See that on flights eh When you're there And you see like Parents come back And like Their kids will be in economy You're just like
Starting point is 00:11:17 You just left your kids here It's wild It's a wild thing to do Well like you know When you get on a plane And you have to walk past business to go to economy, and then you see, like, an entire family and there's, like, a six-year-old with a business class seat.
Starting point is 00:11:31 You're like, that's not fair. And it's just eyeballing you, like, oh, go down to your seat in economy. Yeah. Bitch, you are six. Enjoy the prawns. ZDM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. There is a new social network,
Starting point is 00:11:48 and this is quite different to Facebook and anything really. It's called Minus. So they describe it as a finite social network where you get 100 posts for life. That's it. So you can reply to a post as often as you want. Every time you add to the feed, it subtracts from your lifetime total. So you post on your feed, you've got 99 left and so on.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Hence why it's called minus. Is it going to be a boring feed though? Well, I mean, there's still interaction. You can still comment. It's not out to take down Facebook though, is it? No, it's just to show you there's a different way. Yeah, right. But the feed is reverse chronological.
Starting point is 00:12:30 There's no algorithm. The post timestamps are vague. Nothing is monetized. There's no likes or follows. But yeah, you can comment. Huh, okay. And it will show how many posts each person has remaining. So it doesn't show you all your friends.
Starting point is 00:12:49 It just shows you the world's posts. Oh, so the feed would be interesting because if the whole, if heaps of people are in on it, there'll always be new stuff. And you're going to be really careful about what you post, right? You've got 100 posts, that's it. You're not going to post willy-nilly. So you're going to be commenting. No. And then, no,
Starting point is 00:13:09 you can't delete what you've posted and get another one? Interesting. And then once you hit zero, I assume you can still comment, you just no more posts left. But if I watch that ad about the... That'll be how they monetize it. Then you get extra posts.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Bingo. Watching a 30 second ad about how that guy dresses a butler's trying to fix that house and the green pipe keeps breaking and then you download the game. You download that game and it's nothing like the puzzle solving game it promised it was going to be in the ad.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Disappointing. I always download it and you're like, this sucks. Yeah, you watch the ad and you're like, no, no, open that trap door. Oh God, I'm going to be in the ad. Oh, disappointing. I always download it and you're like, this sucks. Yeah, you watch the ad and you're like, no, don't open that trap door. Oh, God, I'm going to have to download this game to show them how to do it. And you download it and there's nothing behind that. Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughn and Megan. A Reddit user asked, Trajop. It's probably just Trajop, but I'm saying Trajop.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Give it a bit of a fresh flame. Okay, I'm choosing it up. Oh, on Reddit. What's easier when you're unattractive? Because, you know, a lot of things are easier when you are attractive. But ask what is easier when you're unattractive. And people answered in their droves. Here are some of the replies. Oh, is this going to be sad?
Starting point is 00:14:24 Because this is the opposite of? No, no, no. It's what's easy when you're unattractive. If I find all these things easy, does that mean I'm unattractive? Yes. Yeah. Okay. You may not relate, though, because of all the doors that open for you because of your attractiveness.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Oh, my God. Thanks. They just slam open. Yeah. Like how people just wait for you to cross the road, and you're not even at the pedestrian crossing because you're so hot. Yeah, that happens all the time. Does that happen to you all the time?
Starting point is 00:14:50 Same. Being single without being questioned, why? Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. Because if the tractor people are single, do people think they're crazy? Yeah, maybe. That's why they're single.
Starting point is 00:15:04 How is it that you're single? Yeah. I mean, luckily I'm not single. You get it all the time. Getting old. Somebody said, this is the most important example. Beauty is fleeting and I see a mental health crisis with so many people unable to cope with their
Starting point is 00:15:20 ageing and how their looks are starting to fade. That's sad. Whereas if you're unattractive, you never worry about that. to cope with their aging and how their looks are starting to fade. That's sad. Whereas if you're unattractive, you don't need, you'd never worry about that. Yeah, yeah, right. You've never,
Starting point is 00:15:31 you've never had to rely on your looks. Yeah. Being left alone is easier when you're unattractive. Why? People assume your successes are based on your skills.
Starting point is 00:15:39 There's another one. I wonder, being left alone, like people leave you alone. Oh, right. Like they don't bother you Because they're not trying To get in your pants
Starting point is 00:15:46 Yeah exactly Oh right Literally everything I can go to the store Without being worried That I'm going to get hit on Or anything like that Being unbothered
Starting point is 00:15:56 If I'm in a baggy hoodie With a hood up And sweatpants No one bothers me At the bus stop If I have a dress on Seven times out of ten People either get too close
Starting point is 00:16:04 Or start chatting to me when I don't want to be chatted to. Finding a partner who actually cares about you, not just your appearance. Not having fake friends. Being friends
Starting point is 00:16:14 with the opposite sex. I love having guy friends. If you're not attractive, you don't make their girlfriends jealous. Yeah, right. So it's easier to be friends with the opposite sex.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Because they're not threatened. Yeah, right. I think's easier to be friends with the opposite sex. Because they're not threatened. Yeah, right. I think it was threatened by me. Being funny, lots of material to work with is another thing. This list is insanely long. This may be an unpopular opinion, but love. Everyone who has a happy love life I know is unattractive. Beauty attracts people who are only interested in the looks.
Starting point is 00:16:47 It's like money. Real love and happiness are not related to money or beauty. Yeah, right. This is sweeping generalisation. Yeah. It is a little bit. Attractive people aren't in love. Sounds like an angry, ugly person.
Starting point is 00:17:01 From the yummy ZM think tank, this is the top six. Hello there. 1998 was when that 70s show started. It ran for six seasons but only covered three years, 1976 to 1979. And then they brought out that 80s show and that was a flop, eh? So that 80s show was in 2002. So like in the midst of that 70s show's success. It had 13 episodes and then got cancelled.
Starting point is 00:17:36 So now they're going to try some 23 years now, but it'll be at least 24 years after the original That 70s Show to do a That 90s Show. It's going to pick up in 1995 with Eric and Donna's daughter, Leah Foreman, returning to visit her grandparents, Red and Kitty, who are going to be played by Kurtwood Smith and Deborah Jo Rupp, the same people, where I think she's going to be staying with them. Right. In the same place, Point Place, Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I love Wisconsin! It was always in the opening thing, but they're going to give this a blast on Netflix. So I've got the top six storylines for that 90s show. Number six. When the disc arrives from AOL to access the internet and it costs $10 an hour to dial it in.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Dial up internet? The floppy disc. Yeah. The floppy disk Yeah Yeah The floppy disk was the first one That gave you access Gave you the little program Then you could dial on the internet
Starting point is 00:18:30 And get on your extra And you'd put a pillow Over the back of the computer Just been like Shush Shush Shush God damn it
Starting point is 00:18:45 shush number 5 on the list of the top 6 storylines for that 90s show, Leah wants a starter jacket based on your life pretty much well I was like a teenager in in the 90s
Starting point is 00:19:01 she wants a starter jacket, they live in Wisconsin so she'd want a Milwaukee Bucks one. And she's got to convince her grandparents to part with that amount of cash. And when they don't want to, because that's an insane amount of money for a jacket, she'll say, everybody else has got one. Why do you hate me? Number four on the list of the top six storylines for that 90s show, the Foremans get a Uniden cordless phone.
Starting point is 00:19:26 So now you can take a call in your bedroom. Battery pending. You can get told off for leaving the phone in your bedroom. Yeah, because it doesn't charge. And then your mum wants to call her mum and it runs out of batteries because she wants to be able to get dinner on while she's also on the phone.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Number or when you had to take it down to your mum at the washing line because someone called when mum was hanging out at the washing and you your mum At the washing line Because someone called When mum was hanging out At the washing And you'd get half way To the washing line And be like Or you could pick up
Starting point is 00:19:52 Somebody else's unit In Cordless Fine Remember that one Oh those were the days That didn't work for us Because we lived rurally But I remember going To my friend Chris's house
Starting point is 00:19:59 And if you walked To like a corner of the section With their Cordless Fine There was someone In the neighbourhood You could hear on the phone. That was wild. Number three on the list of the top six storylines for that 90s show,
Starting point is 00:20:12 Red destroys a bunch of Furbies that won't stop making demon noises. Dad's hated Furbies in the 90s. And I tell you what, he'll probably let your Tamagotchi die too. He's not going to feed that thing. Just for the fun of it. Number two on the list of the top six storylines for that 90s show, Leah's got a new favourite TV programme. It's called Friends.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Will the show get a second season? I guess we'll never know. And number one on the list of the top six storylines for that 90s show, Red learns that CDs cost $25 and catches Leah doing the new dance, the Macarena, from her new CD called That's What I Call Music.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Wow. Just one. Isn't it insane that people would buy a whole CD for one song that they liked? Wow. And they were like
Starting point is 00:20:58 at least $25, eh, for an album. Yeah. On CD. More often than not, closer to 3030. Wild. That is today's Top 6.
Starting point is 00:21:10 ZM's Fleshborn and Megan. Play ZM. ZM's $50,000 Secret Sound. Season 10. Well, the current jackpot, $10,000 cash. It's all thanks to Neon Watch TV series and movies.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Handpicked for Kiwis by Kiwis on Neon. Soundkeeper Owls, good morning. Good morning. How are you guys? Good. Now, for those that missed it with Bree and Clint, 5 o'clock on Friday, what was the clue that you gave out? It was buy now, use later.
Starting point is 00:21:48 So you've had the whole weekend to dwell on that. Buy now, use later. Did you see that being dissected online over the weekend? Was anyone on the money? Oh, well, I had my whole family here trying to figure that out. So it's been an interesting few days. Even your family's punishing you at home. You'd think you'd get a break.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Respect. Look, I thought picnics would be relaxing when Jacinda said we could do it, but not anymore. All right, well, we have Anna who has got through. Anna, good morning. Good morning. All right, so this is The Secret Sound. sound. Now with the new Clow on Friday in mind for $10,000 Anna,
Starting point is 00:22:29 what is it? I think it's a coffee takeaway card stamp noise. Like a loyalty card? Yeah, loyalty card, yeah. And the little, like when they'd have a little smiley, the teacher had a smiley face stamp or a star. Yeah, at the counter.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Okay. Ka-chunk. Yep. Have we had that before? Have we had that guess already? Or something similar? A medical stamp, but not a clicking loyalty card. Oh, okay. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:58 A bit different. A bit different. All right. I also feel like this is one of those guesses that comes up every secret sound. I thought with the buy now, pay later, you're buying for the coffee, you get the stamp, but then, oh, you can use it later. You can free pay for those coffee cards, yeah. Yeah, but how does that work with the first clue as well?
Starting point is 00:23:16 Because level three, your coffee has become so big. Take away coffee. Okay. So they do fit. They can be fitted into the clue. Right. Anna. Thank you for calling up. It's early, so you've done well.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Thank you. But that is not the secret sound, unfortunately. Oh. Alright, well, Anna, hard luck, but we do have another shot. Eight o'clock this morning, $10,000, the current jackpot. So make sure you're listening out for that activator.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Billie Eilish is on the show after Secret Sound at eight o'clock as well. No big deal. Nah. Just Billie Eilish. She's just hanging out on the show, yeah. Her tickets, the tickets for her September show next year go on sale this Friday. So we'll chat to her. Coming up on the show.
Starting point is 00:24:08 How to get ready for Christmas without spending lots of money. Spoiler alert, you need to get started. You're done. You're Christmas ready. Put your pants on. ZDM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Smell it again. Smell baking in here.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Baking, not bacon. There's baking coming through the air con, which is a change from last time the diesel fumes from the generator were coming through the air con. Oh, yeah. Do you think it's the same air intake? Someone's made some McMuffins. Coffee over the roads.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Maybe. They're pumping it straight in. Nice. Yeah. There's definitely some – there's egg in there, eh? Do you know what it sounds like to me? Those little, like, I don't know the words. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:24:51 It's a sweet thing and it's got like a jam in the middle. It's almost like a custody vibe to the dough. Do you know what I'm talking about? They're sweet and they've always got like a blop of jam or something in the middle, but they do have a doughy sort of a... A donut. Nah, more like a blop of jam or something in the middle, but they do have a doughy sort of a... A donut. Nah, more like a cupcake.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Okay, we'll battle through this waft through the air con. And I'll tell you that the heartbreak to read that the wizard of Christchurch, that's right, Christchurch has an official wizard. This always blows people's minds. This is always where I look for fact of the day. This always pops up. New Zealand has a wizard.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Because I feel like when we were growing up as kids, he was always on the news. Always. Always, always. If there was any story about Christchurch, they went to the wizard for his thoughts because he was the wizard of Christchurch. But I feel like lately, and maybe it was an earthquake thing,
Starting point is 00:25:44 you know, with the central city a bit, you know, quiet, he kind of went away. Yeah. But has he not gone away? I would have thought he would have only gone, you know, his reach would have been bigger because of Harry Potter and that. There was no Harry Potter when he started. Well, I guess just with the overseas tourists not coming, he's not out and about, maybe? Maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Well, Christchurch City Council have said they're going to stop paying him his $16,000 a year. He's been on the public payroll for more than two decades. Is he? Yep. I didn't even think he would have been paid. What's his role? Wizard. Providing acts of wizardry.
Starting point is 00:26:24 No shit But did he used to bust Like when the tourists Were around Did he ever put down His big wizard hat And ask for money What
Starting point is 00:26:30 Like how did he make I've never seen him Asking for money He stands up on things And he's dressed as a wizard And he tells stories And talks to people And he was just doing that
Starting point is 00:26:38 For $16,000 a year Yeah How many days a week Don't know But so over his 23 years on the payroll, they've paid him $368,000. Wow. But that's 23 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Break it down. And when you think about all of the, you know, when tourists were here from overseas, they bloody loved it, didn't they? You'd walk past, they'd be getting pictures. Also, he's 88. Is he? I don't think he should be climbing up ladders in the sphere anymore. He's 88.
Starting point is 00:27:09 They should have just kept, like, maybe don't get another one. You know, like a dog. Just keep paying him. You've got to keep feeding it. And then you don't get another one, do you, when you're done with this one? Well, I don't even know if he's – He needs to train up an apprentice. Well, that's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:27:23 The wizard's apprentice. I don't know if he's been training anybody up. Right. But so he's no longer on... When it comes to council spending, I know people are like, I'm paying rights and I'm paying rights to some bastard dressed up as a wizard to trot around and blah, blah, blah. But councils spend money on heaps of dumb stuff. Oh, they probably spend $16,000 on catering alone.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Easy. Yeah. So if they went out without whatever we can smell coming through the air con for like a year... Oh, they probably spent $16,000 on catering alone. Easy. Yeah. So if they went out without whatever we can smell coming through the air con for like a year. Yeah, that smells like council catering. Yeah. It really does. So can we still call him the wizard?
Starting point is 00:27:55 He's just an unemployed wizard. Yeah, because he's still a wizard. He's just not Christ Church's wizard. Semi-retired wizard. And he won't want to move at 88, will he? He won't want to like, you know, if Dunedin was like, well, we'll have a wizard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:10 He's not going to want to move. Probably not, no. Not at this point. Nah. Oh, well, that's, yeah, what news? He might still be around, but he's not on the payroll. 13 past seven. Coming up on the show.
Starting point is 00:28:22 How to get ready for Christmas. I've got five tips because, you know, budget's going to be tight this year. It's going to sneak up on the show How to get ready for Christmas I've got five tips Because you know Budget's going to be tight this year It's going to sneak up on you Play ZM's Flesh, Fawn and Megan Billie Eilish is on the show with us Just after 8 this morning In 2020
Starting point is 00:28:36 2022 Will it be the year of travel? Will it be the year that we can Take off overseas again? Question mark? Question mark Yeah Question mark. Yeah, I was going to say. Big question mark.
Starting point is 00:28:47 2022. It feels like just yesterday. It was 2019 and we're all living in ignorant bliss. Well, see, 11th of October today, Christmas will be here before you know it. Yeah. So not far away from Christmas and the new year. And yeah, next year, will things open up overseas? Like you already, I've got friends from the UK.
Starting point is 00:29:05 You don't have friends. That are holidaying. I've got three friends. One of them's on holiday. Okay, I've got three close friends-ish. No, but you see friends in the UK that are going on holiday now. Yeah. And in Europe, America, things opening up,
Starting point is 00:29:18 your friends are travelling around, it's like. But also case numbers going through the roof. Well, when things do open up, Thailand may not want you back because they are launching a new tourism fee in order to chase away low-value tourists. So, aka backpackers or just cheap travellers. Like a fee just to get in. Yeah, so all of us.
Starting point is 00:29:41 But here's the thing. This is their grand plan. Okay. 500 baht. Yeah, so all of us. But here's the thing. This is their grand plan. Okay. 500 baht. Now, just... If you've ever been to Thailand. I've done it. $20 New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:29:54 $20 New Zealand dollars. That you pay on the way in. Yeah. So I'm guessing it'll be in your air ticket or you get to the airport and pay it. Right. Only the rich may come. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I was like, oh my God, what is that? How much is 500 baht? I can't remember. you get to the airport and pay it. Right. Only the rich may come. Yeah. I was like, oh, my God, what is that? How much is 500 baht? I can't remember. 20 baht. $20. Backpackers can afford that. But then for a lot of people in Thailand, that's like food for a few days.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Yeah, well, that's the idea. Eating the bare minimum. They're going to use this to make a fund that will build a whole lot of things. Barley will need that as well. Yeah, well Bali as well is struggling at the moment, as you can imagine. But hasn't Bali also said they're not accepting backpackers?
Starting point is 00:30:34 Well, they want the richer tourists as well. Right. But won't they come as well as the backpackers? But then the backpackers spend money too, don't they? Yeah, on different things though. And then what about the backpacking businesses and people that make money out of those? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:49 So in Thailand, 18% of the country's GDP is tourism. I don't know what ours is. Ours would be up there too though because it's one of our biggest industries. Yeah. When we did have tourists. I saw it was really sad. Somebody did a photo essay of Bali and all the overgrown shops and tourist areas. And it was like so sad, like just dead.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Wow. So they're growing already. Yeah. I mean, we'd be there if we could, right? Mm-hmm. Well, fingers crossed, 2022. I'm just looking. Thailand's currently chonking up 10,817 new daily cases.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Wow. Okay. No one's paying that 500 baht yet, are they? Not yet. Hold on to the outer marker. Christmas is going to sneak up on you. And I know you say Christmas and a lot of people are like, oh, God, shut up. Oh, I wouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:31:51 God, shut up. I better be able to see my mum for Christmas. Well, because I had a picnic yesterday with some friends because we're allowed to have a picnic. We had a coffee picnic. And we were just like, is Christmas? Are we even going to be allowed out for Christmas? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Like that's depressing to even think about, right? People have been saying that for a while and I'm like, don't be pessimistic. But then, yeah, the cases yesterday weren't...
Starting point is 00:32:15 Mmm, yeah. Oh, yeah. I didn't see that. I was out. I was yard working, mate. Bloody hell. You're out of there. I was out of yard work. Okay. And then Bloody hell. You're out of the yard work.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Okay. And then I got in for dinner and Sade's like, have you heard how many cases there were today? I was like, no. And she's like, 60. I was like, I think you've got that wrong. 16. She's like, 60.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I was like, oh God. Oh dear. I was happy outside, but I didn't know that. We've got 74 days and 16 hours to sort our shiz out, New Zealand. Because, yeah, Christmas is in 74 days. So here's five tips to start thinking about 74 days out from Christmas. Set yourself a budget.
Starting point is 00:32:55 So it's not just how much you're going to spend on people's presents. Right. It's how much you want to spend on food, decorations, everything. Just think about all the details and set yourself a budget and don't go over it. Even if you want to spend on food, decorations, everything. Just think about all the details and set yourself a budget and don't go over it. Even if you want to do a spreadsheet.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Some of these like tips for a budget Christmas. Well, just to make sure you don't go over budget. Okay. It doesn't have to be. You set your own budget. Get ahead with the shopping. And I say this every year. Start now.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Because there's so many sales that come up. Yeah. And just especially with the shipping. Yeah. And like so much stuff isn't available. Yeah. So get onto it now. And the thing is, if you have things in mind for different people, as soon as you see a
Starting point is 00:33:36 random sale, you can buy it and tick that person off. That's what I always do. So get in with the shopping now. Ask people to pitch in. So if you are hosting Christmas, I mean, we might get to do it with close family. If you're hosting Christmas, don't take all the costs on yourself.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Get everyone to pitch in a little bit. Even if each family does like 20 bucks, it's going to make it easier. Don't want to be the person having that conversation with the family though. But what if you're like, they're like, like yeah I'll bring What's an example of something
Starting point is 00:34:06 You'd bring to Christmas Coleslaw A ham No one's bringing coleslaw To Christmas The veggies Sir Please leave Christmas
Starting point is 00:34:13 You can't You can't get back to New Plymouth Come and have family Come and have Christmas Without having If you turn up with coleslaw You get turned around I'll be like sir
Starting point is 00:34:22 Take your coleslaw Your three bean salad. bring a bucket of Maltesers. Yeah, okay, now we're talking because we can make something out of that. Or trifle.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yeah, but what if they say, I'll bring garlic bread and then they bring the, like cheap, they cheap out on the garlic bread. You know, you've got to set
Starting point is 00:34:38 a certain standard. Right. Buy an artificial tree. So, but then, there's juries out on winter whether that's better for the environment. Yeah, didn't you have to have one for like 18 years before it? Yeah. So buying one every year, they're saying, is quite pricey.
Starting point is 00:34:54 So invest in a tree and you don't have to do that every year. And then propose a secret Santa. So this is what we do with our family and our friends. You buy one present for everyone. So you buy one present. It's cheaper. And then everyone buys one present for everyone. So you buy one present and then everyone buys one present for everyone. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yeah. And it's much cheaper. Then you're not having to go out and buy everyone one present that they're probably not going to like anyway. And then do that thing where you can do swaps. What is that? Bad Santa?
Starting point is 00:35:19 Is that Bad Santa? Yeah, because then you've got a bad present and you can swap it. You sit in a circle and everyone can steal each other's presents. Yeah, that's ruthless. Nasty, but fantastic way to ruin Christmas. ZDM's Fletchborn and Megan.
Starting point is 00:35:31 An artist separated from her partner in 2017. You may be thinking, okay, where are you going with this one? Where are you going with this, Smitty? Well, this is unprecedented. And I know we live in unprecedented times, but this is unprecedented. Okay. That after their 20-year marriage...
Starting point is 00:35:51 This is here in New Zealand or overseas? Correct. Here in New Zealand in... Just near Picton. Okay. It has been ruled that the art created is relationship property because it was created during their 20-year marriage.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Like paintings and stuff. Yep. The copyright of that art and the art is a 20-year marriage. Through their 20-year marriage is relationship property. So when you separate anything that was accumulated during your time in a relationship is fair game to be split. Like Kiwi Savers? Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Do they get half of your Kiwi Saver? We cross now to our divorce consultant. Megan Pappas, knee, slow back, knee, sellers. Yes. So, yes, they are entitled to half of your Kiwi Saver, which I don't know if a lot of, I didn't realise that, which you can't then draw out to give in a divorce. It gets split between other assets.
Starting point is 00:36:53 So you'd give them the money you have and then you split the assets to make up the amount. What if you had no assets? I don't know how that works. Do you have to pay them off? They don't get half your debt, right? Like you didn't, did he? Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Yeah, they do get half your debt. Yeah. Right, okay. Yeah. So like your student loans would be taken into account? Yes. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:17 But then something that's created like art. Arts are really, like businesses, yes. Businesses is like. If you build businesses. That's like a creative thing right that you've built even if you did it on your own
Starting point is 00:37:27 you have your own business but you're in a relationship when you split up they get half of it it's relationship property wow so I guess it's I mean
Starting point is 00:37:35 it sounds weird but I guess it's the same thing yeah but it's theirs I know they it's their art and they created it so apparently
Starting point is 00:37:43 this is going to be on the books now but that's like the same if you're working for a company, like intellectual property. Like if we did something at work here, say, I don't know, we came up with something. That's why I kept all my genius ideas for home. I don't even really engage here.
Starting point is 00:38:00 I'm not giving this anything. We notice you give around 5%. I'm here. Yeah, you're here. But I dare not have one of my genius ideas on this premises or the company will own it. What would happen if you, like, you were the one who was going to get a divorce,
Starting point is 00:38:15 so in your mind you're like, okay, I'm going to ask for a divorce. And you burn it all. You're the artist. No, you give it all away to family beforehand. Yeah, that's what's, that's called trust. That's how people trust, right? Yeah, family trust. Family trust.
Starting point is 00:38:27 You put all your arm work in the family trust and then you're like, oh, I want divorce. Your partner may, there may be a suspicion aroused. But I've given it away. I've come home and all the stuff's gone. Yeah. And then tomorrow, like, I think we should get a divorce. I mean, space it out.
Starting point is 00:38:43 I've signed it away to a family trust. And I will do the dishes tonight if you sign that piece of paper. Sign, sign, sign. Done. It's a done deal. But by the way, this is one of those cases now that, you know, when they cite like a case previously, this is going to be the case going forward now.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Landmark case. Yeah, yeah, landmark case because it's been decided. Wow. It's kind of set the bar. This is why I always say, Holler, we want prenup. We want prenup. Yeah. It's why I say it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:15 So, or bog them down in admin so much they daren't leave you for the paperwork. Exactly. Exactly. That's my approach. That's the Vaughan Smith way. Yeah. Yeah. So, I would like to know, after your relationship ended,
Starting point is 00:39:27 what did your partner want from the relationship that was weird? Not was weird, but you were like, I didn't think they wanted that. Like an item or a... Yeah. Right, okay. Yeah. Or it was yours, but when you were going through your assets and splitting them in half, they're like, actually, I want that.
Starting point is 00:39:44 And you're like, what? Did you have anything like that? He wanted the bed, specifically. Cursed. He wanted my rings, which we actually discussed with the lawyer, and they said because it was a gift from him. So if anyone's in that scenario and they want the rings, the engagement ring that I gave you, they gifted it to you.
Starting point is 00:40:06 So legally it's yours and you get to keep it. So tough today. And so that doesn't get totaled into all the property and the value of everything? No. It shouldn't do nothing. Okay. Is it the same for like birthday presents?
Starting point is 00:40:19 Could you be like that place that you can't have half of that because it's a present? Maybe. You gifted it to me? I don't know. Interesting. We're talking about what somebody wanted in your separation. Maybe it was an unusual item.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Maybe they wanted lots. Or maybe they wanted next to none. Like this text message. My husband, when he left, he didn't want anything except the chainsaw. I said, what about the kids in custody? And he shrugged. Oh, my God. I just really wanted that chainsaw.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I got the house, the furniture, everything. I really wanted that. Wow. That must have been really wanted that chainsaw. I got the house, the furniture, everything. I really wanted that. Wow. Must have been a bloody good chainsaw. I want to say this chainsaw that a man literally walked away from. From a capital gain free. Sophie, what did you want in the breakup? I wanted the vacuum cleaner.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Oh, okay. Was it a fancy one? How good was this vacuum? It was a dice. Ah, right. Was it a fancy one? How good was this vacuum? It was a Dyson. Ah, right, okay. Yeah. Oh, no, Fletch is currently promoting another sort of vacuum. I am, yes.
Starting point is 00:41:12 I can't comment. He can't comment on Dysons. I will, though. Wonderful vacuum cleaners. Have you tried the new shank with the pet hair removal? I haven't. And you promised me that it is actually really good for pet hair. Well, because you've got three dogs now.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Well, two of them don't molt. But I want to try this one because the golden retriever molts. Yeah, well, you're more than welcome to borrow it, Vaughn. Absolutely. Oh, my God. Yeah. Did you have to barter anything away to get the vacuum cleaner? So when he came around, he said to me,
Starting point is 00:41:42 oh, how about I just send you some money? I'm going to need some stuff where I go. And I said, oh, yep, that's fine. And then I never saw another cent towards the stuff that I'd paid for. So I just walked away with my head held high with my dice in my hand. Fair enough, fair enough. Sophie, thanks for your call. Sarah, what did they want in the separation?
Starting point is 00:42:04 Yeah, so it wasn't me. It was actually my grandma. So she got married when she got a bit older and got married again and when they got a divorce, he wanted her flybys that she'd earned while they were together. But then that's like, what movie is it?
Starting point is 00:42:19 Without arguing? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I know your grandma's not a movie. Real life. Sarah, I know your grandma's not a movie. Real life. Sarah, I know your grandma's not a movie, but it starts out, is it wedding crashes? And they're both divorce lawyers and people are arguing
Starting point is 00:42:31 over air miles and apparently, like, air miles are a massive thing in divorce. Like, yeah. Well, surely you just have to split them, right? Did Gran have to split
Starting point is 00:42:41 the flybys? Yeah, she had to split the flybys. I don't know how they figured it out, but she had to give them some. They had to transfer balances somehow. You ring flybys, you're like, hello, I'm going through a divorce
Starting point is 00:42:51 and they want their flybys. We're like blown away by it, but I bet people who work for flybys. I'd cash out and get a blender and some flights to Maroo. Before they could get in on it. Then he's going to want to come to Maroo. Sarah, thanks for your call.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Yeah, wow. Some other text messages in on it. Apparently when my granddad left, he only wanted the shovel. Is that it? These shovels and chainsaws must be so good. Somebody else said, I was seeing a guy for about six months. We didn't even live in the same house for most of the time
Starting point is 00:43:26 when I learnt more about him I decided we were definitely not compatible right but he was of the impression we'd been going out for six months so he was entitled
Starting point is 00:43:34 to half of my stuff and we said he was going to engage a lawyer imagine being a lawyer being like a horn ZM's Fleshborn and Megan
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Starting point is 00:44:04 Our favourite Kiwi streaming service $10,000 is the current jackpot Good morning It's all thanks to Neon. Watch the TV series and movies everybody's talking about on Neon, our favourite Kiwi streaming service. $10,000 is the current jackpot. Good morning, Emily. Good morning. All right, Soundkeeper Owls is standing by from her house, socially distanced. She is one of the, I think what the boss will know and you'll know,
Starting point is 00:44:23 the only two people that know the secret sound. Correct. And even your family are wondering what it is and punishing you. Oh, yeah, they're hating it. Okay, well, this is the secret sound. There was a clue on Friday as well at 5 o'clock. What was that clue again, Els? Buy now, use later.
Starting point is 00:44:42 All right. Emily, does that clue help your guess? Well, I feel like everything you buy now and use later. So, I don't know. Okay, well, for $10,000, Emily, what is it? Okay, I think the secret sound is your toast popping out of the toaster. Oh, I do love some toast. That works too, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:45:09 You buy it at the supermarket and you use it for toast later. But the sound, I mean, the sound that, when you imagine a toaster popping. It's very good. Have you used a lot of toast recently, trying to get the sound right? Well, yeah, I have toast, like, nearly every day, every day but okay so it's a familiar sound yeah been playing with my toaster well i'm gonna have some toast after this toast is literally a gift from heaven itself i think you know what that sound is,
Starting point is 00:45:47 Georgia will have your chance. ZDM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Well, Billie Eilish, the show has been announced for the 8th of September. It's a Thursday in 2022. Now, tickets for the general public go on sale at midday on Friday. There is a Vodafone presale today from 11. There's a Live Nation presale on Wednesday, along is a Vodafone presale today from 11. There's a Live Nation presale on Wednesday
Starting point is 00:46:06 along with a Frontier Touring presale before those general tickets go on sale. Now, all the details you can find at ZM Online. And she joins us this morning. Hello, Billie Eilish. Hi, guys. How are you? Good.
Starting point is 00:46:19 How are you? I'm fine. Bloody knackered. You're allowed to say it. Do Americans say knackered? I feel like it's very much, we get it from our British. Yeah. No, I definitely had to piece together what you said.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Knackered. It's like stuffed. What's the equivalent? Knackered. Knackered. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say we could spend the rest of the interview going into the etymology
Starting point is 00:46:42 of the word knackered. I mean, I would find that fascinating personally. I love the origins of words. What about the word naked, though? How do you say that? Naked. Naked. Naked and naked.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Say both in a row. Naked, naked. I'm naked and naked. If you were nude and exhausted, you would say I'm one naked, naked individual. Oh, my God. Hey, super excited. Tickets for your show. nude and exhausted you would say i'm one knackered naked individual oh my god hey uh super excited tickets for your show uh in new zealand next year go on sale on friday are you loving touring again i'm so excited i'm i've been uh doing some shows for the last few weeks like my first show is back but they're only festivals um and it's been so good i can't wait oh my god i can't wait
Starting point is 00:47:27 what was it what was it like just not having that as an option over like 2020 and and the first part of 2021 like the the live performances you you know could do the streams and stuff but not that immediate audience reaction no it was terrible i mean it definitely made me uh really go like if i if i didn't get to do shows i wouldn't be doing any of this at all like if shows were out of the question i would be gone for sure right so okay that's that's interesting that it's yeah without the live without the live aspect it doesn't it doesn't thrill you yeah no, no, I'm not. I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of perks, but honestly, none of them are really worth it unless I get to do shows, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Wow. Hey, I've got to say, you've joined a very elite club. You probably did this ages ago. I know the song came out just after the movie was initially supposed to, but the Bond thing, that must have been unreal. What an amazing club to join. Oh, my God, I know. The coolest club to join.
Starting point is 00:48:32 It was crazy. I mean, we wrote that song two and a half years ago, or I guess two years ago right now, which is crazy, because, whoa, did COVID take up so much time oh my god um but yeah we wrote that song in like October of 2019 and then that came out and I think like February of 2020 or something and um yeah it was so was cool. Every aspect of it was cool. And then, honestly, like even though the buildup has been annoying because of, oh, it's moved to this and it's moved to this,
Starting point is 00:49:12 it kind of made it even cooler because it just built it up and up and up. And then now that it's finally out, it's so exciting. Is it full creative freedom when you write a Bond theme? Or are they like, oh, we need it to match up to some point where he's going to walk and look down the barrel and go pew. No we didn't have any time stamps or anything. They weren't like that. I think it was just more like this is what the movie's about and this is what we're feeling and
Starting point is 00:49:44 then they just gave us leadway you know it was it wasn't nobody bossed us around and also we were we were trying to be really respectful of uh you know all of the the the past bond songs because they were so incredibly iconic and we wanted to pay homage to them and also be original at the same time like be respectful of of what's the classic bomb song and kind of take inspiration from that but then also not have it not sound like me you know yeah yeah for sure so can we talk about the met because i'm obsessed with the met but is does that make you nervous because there's so much pressure to walk down the walk up those steps and something amazing like were you stressing out?
Starting point is 00:50:33 Yeah I was like my hands were shaking the whole car ride um it was really really scary and intimidating and it's funny though like the carpet is so much smaller than you think it's going to be, which is kind of even cooler. Cause it's, I don't know. It was really, really cool. I was really like, just like completely zoned out. Honestly, I was so distracted and nervous. Oh my God. It was like nervous. And it was boiling hot on the red carpet, even though it was like raining outside. It was so weird, but it was and it was boiling hot on the red carpet even though it was like raining outside it was so weird but it was it was amazing oh my god it was so stressful though and i'm a big fan of oscar de la renta but i how do you get a massive
Starting point is 00:51:14 fashion house to suddenly not wear fur you're like i'm not gonna do this unless you guys don't use fur anymore you give them an ultimatum. Is that all it took, literally? Yeah, I said I'm not doing shit with you guys unless you do something about this and they did it. Wow. So it's like if you're powerful enough, if you make an ultimatum, change can happen. True.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Sorry. Who knew? It's just that we're told that can't happen with things like global warming and climate change and stuff. Why more people that have power should actually realize that they do actually have power because they do. To swing for the fences. Now, last time, how many times have you been to New Zealand?
Starting point is 00:52:01 Once or twice? Twice. Yes. Only been twice. I feel like i've been way more time many times than that but yeah twice i love new zealand oh my god i love it there because we're a small country we get small country syndrome we're always like what do you like best about us is it how we say naked or naked or no i mean i just it's so beautiful and like green and the weather. I really liked the weather when I was there. I mean, again, I was like, it was like raining when I was there and I love rain.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And it like wasn't too hot when I was there, but I'm sure it gets hot. But I love it. I remember the first time you came, there was this like really passionate crowd of like younger teenagers. And they were like super passionate. I remember you came into the radio station we work at and hung out with the night show host for a while, Cam. And there was people at the windows. And then next time you came, it had spread wider
Starting point is 00:52:55 and there was a more, you know, a big crowd when you played at Spark. Next time you come back, I even think my 71-year-old father-in-law might be at the concert because we listened in the car and he's like I'll tell you what, this is better than a lot of the music you play on that radio station you work at. Oh my god, that's so cute.
Starting point is 00:53:12 I can't believe you guys were there for that. Yeah. Yeah. We're old so we've been around for a little bit. But how's that been? Does it feel like a dream that how this has all happened and like going to the Met Gala and writing a Bond song?
Starting point is 00:53:30 How often do you have to stop and pinch yourself? I mean, it's funny. Like I kind of just like move through it without realizing what's going on. And then there will be like a few moments where I'm like, you know, sitting at the premiere of Bond in London in a crowd of like 5,000 people with the royal family sitting a few feet from Bond. And, you know, the entire cast of James Bond, which is a bunch of literal icons I've loved for years.
Starting point is 00:54:02 And then my song is playing and it's uh the theme to the movie and i'm like sitting there like whoa that's so cool hey hey will tickets go on sale for your show this friday uh do you have anything to say to people because it looks like we're gonna need to be vaccinated to go to the show do you have anything to say to anyone that isn't vaccinated yet maybe sitting on the fence oh um gosh just get vaccinated simple that's a simple message i mean people put crazy things in there people eat meat for god's sake you know what's in that shit are you kidding me you know you drink coke hey tell me what's in Coke. Tell me how that's a good thing
Starting point is 00:54:47 for our bodies. So get it done. So get it done. Billie Eilish, thanks so much for chatting to us this morning. Really appreciate it. Of course.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Thanks, guys. Play ZM's Flesh, Vaughn and Megan. Today, our bathroom renovations begin. Oh, great time. This is something that can happen in this level. People will be masked. Distances will be distanced.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yeah. Observed. Everybody's got a bloody shot in the old arm. Hole. Okay. We had to make a hole to get in there, but everybody's all sorted out. I made sure. I was like, what the hell are we sitting at here illegally?
Starting point is 00:55:24 But now we're all, it's all legit. Okay. So bathroom renovations begin. is all sorted out. I made sure. I was like, what the hell are we sitting at here illegally? But now we're all, it's all legit. Okay. So bathroom renovations begin. This is a sort of Christmas for my wife. She loves this sort of stuff. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:55:33 how much is this costing? Constantly, how much is this costing? She showed me a spreadsheet but then she knew I was not nearly interested enough to sit down and look at a Microsoft Excel
Starting point is 00:55:41 on it. So that's where we're at. Okay. But yesterday, she said, well, we've got to take everything out of the bathroom. I said, that makes sense. And I opened the one drawer I'm entitled to and I put my arm at the back of it
Starting point is 00:55:53 and a box in the front and I went, sweet, I'm done. And she said, no, you're not. And I said, name a single other thing in here. That's yours. That's mine. And you know what? She couldn't. Suck it, I said. And she said,
Starting point is 00:56:08 well, you can help me clean. And I was like, what? You can help me clean? There's a few bits that need cleaning. I'm like, this is all getting demolished. I'm not cleaning something for it to be demolished. And I'm not throwing that right. They're demolishing everything in there.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Yeah, it's all coming out. Yeah, but they're going in there And they're gonna see it all first Yeah but there's not feces smeared on the wall Megan There's like dust behind the toilet And there's this weird In the girls bathroom there's this weird gap Between the vanity And the wall
Starting point is 00:56:39 And it's like Less than an inch wide And dust and what have Gathers down there She's like that than an inch wide. Right. And Dustin, what have, gathers down there. She's like, that's got to be cleaned out. Look, and she's shined a torch, and she's like, look at the back. It's gross. I'm like, yeah, but that's why we're getting the bathroom renovated. It's because of all these dumb things.
Starting point is 00:56:56 I'm not cleaning in there. People going in there and being like, oh, these people are gross. Before they demo it. But then they're reno-ing the bathroom. They're pulling it out. Yeah, but they still get a chance to judge you beforehand. Yeah, but they're not going to judge, are they? Oh.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Yes, they will. No, they won't. Really? These people are dirty. I always, whenever at our place now, because there's lots of stuff that's needed doing, I always say, oh, we've just recently moved in. So then that's the matter of the last people's fault.
Starting point is 00:57:25 We've just moved in. We've been there for like nearly three years. I'm like, we've recently moved in. So then that's the matter of the last people's fault. We've just moved in. We've been there for like nearly three years. I'm like, we've just moved in. That's not me. That's definitely not me. Okay. So yeah, she was like, oh, can you clean out there? And I was like, why are we cleaning?
Starting point is 00:57:40 It's going to be all pulled out. What about when you moved out of that flat that they demolished to build the waterview tunnel how great is that that was actually worth megan's flat being it was worth all those people being at the time you were protesting don't dig a hole in the tunnel and now we get to the airport so quickly don't we scoot right through it was worth it should have bowled a few more we asked if if we could just have a demolition party and they said no. But when we moved out we had to clean it. To get the bond back. But why did you?
Starting point is 00:58:11 Just get it busted down. Why are we cleaning things that are being demolished? I don't know. We're wasting our time. My time is valuable. That does seem weird. So did you end up having to clean? Well so I went oh god and I got the duster, and she's like, don't put the duster in there.
Starting point is 00:58:27 We don't know if it's wet. Why did you even go through with this? So I wrapped toilet paper around the hard end of the duster and stuck it in and dragged it out once, and then it was like dust in here and stuff. I was like, done. And she was like, no, it's still dirty in the back. I was like, I'm not touching a single thing.
Starting point is 00:58:43 I'm out. I'm out. I'm out. And I put my hands up and I went outside and then I was in trouble right I'm not chipping in but I think morally you've won this you've won this well I'm going to say when I get back home
Starting point is 00:58:56 and the builders are pulling things out I'm going to be like how disgusting are we do you think we're pigs okay on a scale of one to ten, how dirty is this? How judgmental were you of our current living situation? Because the rest of the house is tidy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:12 They're not going to tell you, though. They'll just do it between themselves. I'll be like, these guys are filthy. No, no, no. Tradies look at me and they're like, we can be honest with this guy. He's a fellow tradie. G'day, boys.
Starting point is 00:59:23 No, they know you're not a tradie. G'day, boys. G'day, boys. How's it going? Look at this tradie turning up in his Honda Record. Yeah. Oh, mate, Honda Record looks like it's, you know, a real work truck. Yeah, it does. Have you met these tradies? Nah. Is there any hotties?
Starting point is 00:59:38 I don't know. I'll send you a photo later on. You creep! I'm just meeting your lady on my way with your wife. Me and the boys don't want to be perved on. We're just out doing our job. Good trade. Good bit of trade.
Starting point is 00:59:52 No, I don't know. I'll let you know. What, are they arriving at your house when you're not there? Yeah. Okay. I don't know. I'll miss a chat day
Starting point is 01:00:00 and I'll ask her. They're adhering to strict COVID regulations. There'll be no co-noodling with my wife before I get home. ZDM's Fletch, Ron and Megan. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day.
Starting point is 01:00:23 It was illegal in New York City to give someone a tattoo until 1997. Nineteen ninety seven. In New York? In New York City. The boundaries of New York City. They did it anyway? Yes. Why was it illegal?
Starting point is 01:00:39 So it became illegal in 1961. It became officially illegal to give someone a tattoo in New York City. Now, there's a few thoughts on what that was in response to. So apparently there was an outbreak of hepatitis B. Right. That's what the city claimed. City officials said there was an outbreak of hepatitis B, and until we can see whereabouts this is, we need to halt tattooing,
Starting point is 01:01:03 as that is one of the ways that it is spread through unclean practice. And it was also suspected that while the hepatitis B thing was blamed, they were also trying to clean up the city because in 1964,
Starting point is 01:01:16 it was hosting the World Fair. And they wanted it to be, you know, the most attractive city it could be to encourage tourism from all over the world to come. And also there is a very strong rumour,
Starting point is 01:01:29 although let's remember that hepatitis B was the official. Yep. There was a very strong rumour that a city official was in love with a tattooer's wife and he thought that she was going to leave the tattooist for him and it didn't happen. And so it was like a personal vendetta against all. Tattoos are illegal.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Tattoos. Well, I'll make them illegal then. But then to still be illegal for like decades. So yeah, and then it took 36 years. I think that's the math. 36 years. Yeah. From 1961 to 1997.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Right. And they just popped. They would just happen and they just turn a from 1961 to 1997. Right. Wow. And they just popped. They would just happen and they'd just turn a blind eye to it. Yeah, so most of the tattooing happened, and that's kind of where tattooing got like that gritty, happens at night, down a dark alley situation. And when you think about New York, you don't think of tattoos. Like tattoo stores here are on
Starting point is 01:02:26 high pedestrian areas and stuff and they are open all day. But yeah, in New York at the time, they were only open late at night in dark alleys that were hard to find because it was illegal. Wow. So today's fact of the day is that up until 1997, giving someone a tattoo in New York City was illegal. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. CDM's Fletchvorn and Megan.
Starting point is 01:03:00 So, you might remember, what was it, the 30th of August? It was the Kumu floods. That's kind of where I live. We got off very lightly apart from the fact that it submerged our water pump. There was the floods and they had to bring the minutes, your horses upstairs and those people's houses.
Starting point is 01:03:18 They had to take them out on boats and stuff. That was wild. Yeah, it was a wild time. So yeah, we got off apart from the flood. It flooded our pump in a thing called a macerator. Oh, what? That churns up the poos and pumps it to the...
Starting point is 01:03:30 Oh, okay. So when you flush your toilet, it goes in there and this thing goes and blurs it up and then shoots it down the pipe. Kind of like a blender for your poos.
Starting point is 01:03:39 It's like a Nutribullet for your poos. Yes. Yeah. It's like a Thermomix. Okay, good. Except... Don't... You have a Thermomix for your poos? Yes. Yeah. It's like a Thermomix. Okay, good. Except... You have a Thermomix for your poos?
Starting point is 01:03:48 It whirs it up and shoots it down the pipe. It did. So anyway, that's needed to be replaced. So I've just been sounding out some different pumps and stuff. We had a backup pump. Because you get your water from the ground. Correct. And this pump was just sitting on the ground.
Starting point is 01:04:08 There's a pump in the bore that pumps it up and puts it in a tank. And this pump that got submerged takes it from the tank to the house. Right. Okay. So we had a backup tank that powers the troughs and stuff for the animals. So I connected that to the house, but it's lower pressure and stuff. It sounds like so much admin in your farm. I love it. It's like a big technique
Starting point is 01:04:29 set. You've got to work out how to get the pipes the water to a place. You've got to connect it to the pipes. I'm with Megan. This sounds too much admin. We're city dwellers. Wow. Take this. I rang a guy. Deals in pumps. He's my pump guy.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Deals in pumps, yeah. Deals in pumps. And I said, this is what's happened. And he's like, oh, yep. So I was just talking about different pumps. And he's like, yeah, there's this option, you know, that's pretty similar to the one you had. Maximum PSI of 60.
Starting point is 01:05:03 That's how much pressure you get. Yeah, that's how much pressure you get. Yeah, that's how much pressure you get. And he's like, that's sitting at about, you know, city pressure, town pressure. Yeah. I was like, okay, cool, cool, cool. And he's like, there is another option. I was like, this one's going to be good. He's like, and this maximum pressure is 80 PSI.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Oh, yeah. And then I was like, oh, yeah. He's like, that's better pressure than any town in New Zealand. And I was like, I've got to have it. I've got to have better pressure than any town in New Zealand. Yeah. Do you need it? Well, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:05:36 I've got to have it. What's wrong with the same pressure that everyone has? Well, I want better pressure than everyone. Who doesn't love a good shower pressure? I want to jump in the shower, crank it, and just feel it taking layers of skin off't love a good shower pressure? I want to jump in the shower, crank it, and just feel it taking layers of skin off. Like a water blaster.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I want to go through a shower head every six months because so much pressure's going through, it blows the rubber out of them. I want to turn on the tap in the kitchen and I want the fitting where the tap sits on the sink to be like, tank! Like, bang! Crash! I'm a rocket, baby! I want to fitting where the tap sits on the sink to be like, tank, like bang, crash.
Starting point is 01:06:05 I'm a rocket, baby. I want to turn on my garden hose and feel it push me back. Like a firefighter. Yeah. I want that sort of pressure. It's a weird brag though. Yeah, well, I said to you guys, I'm going to have better pressure than any town in New Zealand.
Starting point is 01:06:20 That's the weirdest brag I've ever heard. Very odd. Yeah. Cool, man. So, brag I've ever heard. Very odd. Yeah. Cool man. So yeah, I'm pretty stoked on it, but then it got me to thinking, I wonder if anybody has had a friend that had a weird brag.
Starting point is 01:06:36 They were like, my water pressure's better than any town in New Zealand. They're like, cool man. Take that, Auckland. What is the water? Water care. Take that, water care. I roll my eyes at water care. Weak.
Starting point is 01:06:51 That's like a water blast your skin off. So you're going to buy this? Mm-hmm. That's the plan. Of course he's going to buy this. And then forevermore, he'll tell us. He's at 80 PSI. I'll invite you guys around for a shower.
Starting point is 01:07:00 You'll just be like, do you want to wash your hands? I'll be like, no, not particularly. That's a reward we can all look forward to in level two. You can come around for a shower. I don't do you want to wash your hands i'm like no look that's that's a that's a reward we can all look forward to in level two you can come around for a shower i don't want to aim for something to aim for and afterwards i'll say my gosh your skin looks absolutely replenished it looks like you've got a fresh layer you'll be like bleeding from this from the sensitive bits you'll be blinded in an eye because, you know, that random, I hadn't even thought about the massage setting on a shower head. You know, that's always like, this one's going to be like.
Starting point is 01:07:34 It's always hotels that have those. Like no one actually owns one of those, do they? What? A massaging shower head. Yeah, our one's got a little switch on it. Oh, you've got one of those. Do you actually use it? What's the point?
Starting point is 01:07:49 You thought that was silent. I did. I did think. I didn't know that was going to make a noise. Oh, definitely not going in that shower. Alright, well, I don't know. Yeah, it's not really a Kiwi thing to do, is it? Have a break? No, it's not. It's really, really not.
Starting point is 01:08:06 But maybe you've got a friend. Maybe you've got a, like, I remember, do you remember when my brag was that 3kg courgette that I grew? Like, I literally have courgettes grow so bloody quick. One day it's a courgette and the next day you come back, it's like full marrow. And then you're like, well, you're that big. How big can you get?
Starting point is 01:08:23 And that one was so big, it literally robbed the plant of every nutrient. And it was just like, I'm going to die. And the marrow's like, give me everything you've got. And then I had that 3kg marrow. That's heavier than both of my children were when they were born. Okay, you need better brags. All right, we want to open up the phone lines. And maybe you have to deal with a friend like Vaughn,
Starting point is 01:08:45 who is a bragger. A special friend. Or maybe you've got a go-to brag that you love to just pull out and tell everyone and show. It's 12 minutes away from 9. We want to know this morning, your friends that have the weirdest brags, or maybe your go-to brag that you love to pull out.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Do you know, just coincidentally, 10 years ago today, I've been tagged in a Facebook memory by Megan Pappas. She says, I'm so lucky to work with Carl Fletcher and Vaughn Smith, especially Vaughn. His stories on rain and harvesting are amazing. He's an environmental warrior. You'll remember when I hooked up my pipe when I lived in town, so I wouldn't be a drain
Starting point is 01:09:25 on the Auckland City water supply to water my garden. You're welcome! A punish with the boring stories for 10 years. Water chat. You've been at least a decade of water punish. October 11 is the day where I have a great story about rain.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Messages in. The go-to brags, the weird brags. Can I read that one? That one where we're like obsessed with? Oh, yeah, that was bizarre. Yeah, you've told our friend that did a university paper on this. Yeah. Can you call it something else?
Starting point is 01:09:59 Can you make it? I know. Say fourie instead. I mean, that's very obvious what I'm talking about when you say that. I was going to come up with something slightly more. Okay, well, you try. Pretend he didn't say that. You try.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I know a guy that's proud of his wind sock. Those are the things when you're taking off at the airport, the orange. It tells you which way the wind's going. It's floppy, yeah. And then the stripes also indicate how strong the wind is. Right, and he's got a big one of those. He's got a long one of those on the end of his runway. Wink, wink.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I know a guy that's proud of his wind socket so long he can touch his nipple with it. Now that's... Wow. What? This guy's got to have a bit of flexibility in the mid region as well. But even if it came to here, it would still have to go along. You got a tape measure? Wow.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Does it? I have so many questions. Does it go? At least the shuck is length. Yeah. That's as close as I could get. Does it spring back? What did our friend Zach say? No, it's like daylight savings.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Spring forward, fall back. What did our friend Zach, who did the university paper on savings. Spring forward, fall back. Spring forward, fall back. What did our friend Zach, who did the university paper on windsocks say? He said, I would love to see a photo of that. And I said, I don't know how you ask for a photo without getting cancelled. So let's just leave it as that, as one of the most mysterious brags of all time. All right, well, keep your weird brags coming in. We're talking about your weirdest brag. I'm just going to have to
Starting point is 01:11:28 forewarn everybody before they hop in the shower when I get this new pump that they are about to experience water pressure, the likes of which they've never experienced. But see,
Starting point is 01:11:36 the guy that told you that is also the guy trying to sell you this. Yeah, but he wasn't as a no bullshit guy. Okay, right. I know that because he told me that.
Starting point is 01:11:44 I said I really appreciate that because he told me that. I said, I really appreciate that. Because there was another aspect that was going to be more expensive. And he's like, that's unnecessary. This is what you need. It's the cheaper one, but it'll be do it. And I'm writing all this down. And I'm like, I really appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:11:57 And he's like, I'm a no bullshit guy. Okay, great. I said, I appreciate that so much. So we're talking about the weird brags that you or your friends have. Like, I've got the best shower pressure in the whole country. Somebody else messaged in that too. I'm bragged about my shower pressure. But the way you do it, Vaughn, and I appreciate this as well, from another no bullshit person.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Yeah. I like, you don't brag. You kind of warn people before they get in. Just be like, careful with that. Very high pressure. Careful with that. I know you come from An urban setting So you might not be familiar with
Starting point is 01:12:27 Right The advanced pressure Of a rural pump So just Tread lightly Okay Tread lightly Some other brags
Starting point is 01:12:36 Oh yeah we read out That one that was kind of Confronting about the windsock Yeah You had a couple of messages in From people who Would also like to see it But they said This guy is proud of it So he may be willing Yeah, you had a couple of messages in from people who would also like to see it.
Starting point is 01:12:51 But they said this guy is proud of it, so he may be willing to anonymously share it. Oh, I don't know about that. Again, I'm not asking because I can't afford to be cancelled. Leah, what's the weird brag? Your go-to. So basically I went to school in like a real countryside town and we had pet days. I don't know if you guys have pet days. Yep. Agricultural day, yep. But um, and there was
Starting point is 01:13:11 like a lamb drinking competition. So I entered that every single year and my lamb won every single year consecutively for like seven years and I don't know why. I don't starve them. I just don't know. My lamb always won, so that's my brag. So it would drink the quickest. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:27 That's a weird thing to encourage at a pet day because that would also lead to bloating. Well, yeah. I thought it was a pretty good brag. But hey, if you guys don't think that. No, I do. You had a lamb and it always drunk the quickest. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:42 Well, you took a different lamb every single year, obviously, because it was a different spring, but yeah. That's just amazing. We'd take our school bag to school and you took lambs. Yeah, pretty much. Lambs are good to drink real quick. That's awesome, Leah. That's right up there with I've got the best water pressure in New Zealand.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Well, I'm not saying in New Zealand, but better than any town supply. Right. Okay, Leah, thanks saying in New Zealand, but better than any town supply. Right. Okay, Leah, thanks for your call. Some text messages. Just 13 years ago, I worked in Lapland as Santa's helper. The Santa. I've got a photo of me and Santa.
Starting point is 01:14:16 In Lapland. In Lapland, which is where Santa's from. My daughter is seven, so I bring out that photo every Christmas. That's literally like, if you misbehave, I know Santa. Here's photographic evidence. Oh, that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:14:31 That's a good brag. That's very cool. My friend thinks he has the most beautiful hands in the world. He doesn't stop going on about how he should be a hand model, but his hands are so average. Your hands are so average. Why does a friend believe they have nice hands then? I don't know. Now I'm going to need to see a picture of these as well.
Starting point is 01:14:50 The hands, yeah. A couple of photo requests from our topic this morning. Somebody else said to me once that they were around at my place and I was doing some gardening and they said, you don't have very good soil here. You should see my soil. Instead of bragging about it. They said it was soil brag.
Starting point is 01:15:08 They're soil shame. Well, maybe they might be in a more of a volcanic rich area. They could be on some old river silt. Yeah. Rich river silt soil. Weird brag. Yes, it's not their fault. They have the best house they could afford.

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