ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 12th August 2020

Episode Date: August 11, 2020

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Hello and welcome to the flip. Sorry, I've just had some flappy Let me get enough because I've had some Tamari almonds Tamari almonds I had them finished Hello and welcome to the Fletch for an American podcast brought to you by McCafe Grab a delicious barista made coffee for only $4 and let's start today's podcast with a big fucking fuck

Fucking fuck. It is a bit of a fucking fuck. It's one of those days, isn't it? I don't know if there'll be much in the pod. It's a lot of information in the podcast today. Yeah. Because obviously New Zealand moving to alert level two and three to that midday.

After 102 days of no community transmission of COVID-19, a family of four have all tested positive. Where it came from is a mystery. So we'll be wiping that smug look off all of our faces today. They might be the only four. We've got to think positive. You can't just be like, oh my God, doom and gloom. They got it from somewhere.

I know, but they might just be like, what if? What if? I was just going to start speculating. I mean, they're anonymous. No one knows who they are. But imagine if this is how the husband finds out that the wife's been cheating on him with someone that drives the bus between isolation centres. Yeah, I was going to say, what if one of them forgot they had a pash with someone in quarantine?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Let's just try and be optimistic, okay? We'll try. We'll try. I turned around and it was by the guy with the hole in the wall

who fixes my cell phone, who seems to have done an okay job this time, but fingers crossed, because if we're in lockdown, I'm not going to be – That was your third time going back yesterday. He's won a business award. He's won a business award. I would have loved to have seen that conversation. Was it past that? How did it go down?

It was pretty past. He's like, oh, oh i said guess who's back that's what i said when i walked in the door back again covid bonnie's back no this is pre covid fix my phone uh and he said oh the one we took out we tested and it didn't have anything wrong with it i said well it did um and i said and this one's also got something wrong with it and when you showed him it wasn't working, was it malfunctioning? I had it turned off because the minute I turned it, it had been locked.

It was locking itself because my phone was going absolutely crazy and it was entering the wrong password and it would lock itself. And it was dialing 111. Yeah, I dialed the emergency services a couple of times. I said to him, if I turn this on, it's going to lock itself. Anyway, and he's like, okay okay I'll take it apart and have a look and then I'll turn it on so he turned it on apparently and it locked for an hour but because I dropped it off and came back to work and then went back uh and then I got back there and he said

oh yeah I I see what was happening but I think it might be an iPhone problem not the screen problem I said no I think the problem is probably not the iPhone. It's the third-party screen that's been put in that we're all doing just to save money. Yeah. But it's not saving us time. Anyway, it seems to be working so far. What I was going to say is I turned around in this little street, and there was a security guard sitting outside this, like, hotel. Yeah.

I was like, what's he doing there? And I realized it must be an isolation hotel. Yeah. But I thought they all had massive fences around them and stuff. They do. This was a one way in, one way out. What hotel was it? I don't know.

It was this little one just off Queen Street. Because there's lots of them around Central Auckland, right? I don't know. I just thought, why would he be sitting there? But this is not weird for me because I live in the city and walk past them all the time. They're everywhere. Yeah. But most of them have got that tall chain link fence to keep you out.

Yeah, right. Yeah. Well, I'll turn the mics off. You tell me what I hope. I don't know. No, it wasn't a big name one, so maybe I'm wrong. Maybe this guy was just watching, but he had a mask on. We're about on Queen Street.

Just off Queen Street. Sorry, I don't have the exciting details on hand. Are you saying that they knew about this? What? No, God, no. I'm not a fucking idiot. I'm not saying that anybody knew about this thing coming. I'm not saying...

Wow, don't delve into comments. Don't love me with the conspiracy people. So, getting back to the screen, did you go for the proper screen? Did you pay the money or did you get a... No, he doesn't do the proper screens. Oh, okay. So, you're back to a third-party screen and this is probably going to happen screen. Did you go for the proper screen? Did you pay the money or did you get a... No, he doesn't do the proper screens. Oh, okay. So you're back to a third-party screen and this is probably

going to happen again. Probably. This one. Next, you just need to get your money back, babes. I'm going to know if it happens next time. I don't know if it's a...

Because it was like the back door. It was like the back door. Can you read that from there? No. Read it out to me. The reason we're not saying is because we don't want to say it is in case it's not.

I mean, I think maybe I've heard that it is. Yeah. So where I saw this guy sitting would have been like a service entrance to that hotel. Okay, to the hotel. Yeah, right. Isn't that quite nice, that one? Yeah. The one down by my house, the Hotel So, is five star, like, opulence.

Oh. Opulence. That placeence so like you'd be real gutted if you got the sudema also i mean there's nothing wrong with the sudema but you know when there's five star and four star you'd be like because it's a five star what's the sudema well because i saw paul henry's in quarantine he got the sud the Sudima. He would have wanted the So. I know I went, huh, too. I was like, huh, that'll teach you. I reckon they put him there on purpose. I was. It wasn't a smudge ass hole doing a TV show on how to rebuild the economy after COVID,

yet he's lopped off again overseas. Although he did say nice things about it. He said it was a well-oiled machine. It was all, you know, all great. Okay, well, that's good. Maybe I'll take a paper. Did he actually go on holiday to Palm Springs? Or was that a joke?

No, he's got a house there. He's got a, he went. He did that show and then he went back to his house in Palm Springs. But now he's coming back here. Because he's got something else to do. But yeah. In and out, in and out. But yeah, be kind to each other.

Yeah. Stop chewing your tamari almonds into the. I'm hungry. Just be kind to one another. I can't finish work tamari almonds into the... I'm hungry. Just grind one of them. I can't finish work and go to the supermarket like I always do because fucking arseholes

are lining up around the block. Like, just calm down. Is there some sort of online ordering system for tamari almonds? Yeah, but I've got plenty of tamari almonds

isn't the problem. I want a hot rotisserie chicken. Oh, right. I do not have enough food because I'd kept food to a minimum when I moved house. Oh, yeah. And I literally need to go today. You haven't done a big show.

Desperado. Oh, God. Takeaways it is. Good luck out there. ZM. Hit music. Lives here. Flesh, fawn and Megan.

The podcast. Good morning. Yeah. How are we feeling? Well, I slept through the... How did you sleep through that? I heard the... Did yours vibrate?

Yeah, mine didn't make a big noise. It didn't do the ding dong. Got to take your phone back to the guy in the hole in the wall. It was not a ding dong. Nah, mate, I'm not a ding dong. He's shut. He's got to be shut. He's a level three.

He's shut. Right. This phone screen, the third one, He's got to be shut. He's a level three. He's shut. Right. This phone screen, the third one, better hold. Right. Holding. I got woken up. It came through about 20 past 10. I was deep in sleep.

I was like, what is happening? And also, it's not a ding dong. It's like a... I was like, whoa. Yeah, no, I just said... And then Sade's like, hey. Because I'd been asleep for a little while. We're back in level three.

I was like, huh? What? COVID's back. I was like, okay. I went back to sleep and I woke up this morning, I was like, what a weird thing to dream about. And then looked at my phone and I was like, whoa. I know, even I woke up this morning and I was like, oh, that was, oh no, that's real. Yeah.

Cookie dream. Took me a while to get back to sleep. It was crazy in the city, outside my apartment last night. It was like rush hour traffic at like 10.30, people rushing the supermarket. I have since seen the supermarket. The queues. What are you doing that for? Don't you remember last time?

They're going to be open. I don't understand. What's happened? We've all been triggered in that COVID ads back on. I know. Yeah. All right. We're going to keep you updated throughout the morning.

The Prime Minister had a press conference last night. If you missed that, if you were sleeping or you missed it, like a lot of people did, we'll run through some of the important points that she made in that press conference. Joining us on the phone, though, next. Dr. Susie Wiles. Kind of the questions being, I'd like to know about how they're going to trace. If the people who have it, the four people in the same family have said they've got no connection to the border.

They've just got to do a lot of testing. How does the testing work? I know in the news they said some 10,000 tests. And that's why we need to use the COVID tracing app that none of us have been using. Yeah, I've downloaded that. I downloaded it this morning. I was like, it's probably time to start taking this quite seriously.

Yeah. All right, well, she's on the phone with us next. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. We're joined on the phone by microbiologist Dr Susie Wiles. Good morning. Good morning. Have you slept? A little bit.

Oh, goodness me. What was your reaction last night when you heard the news? Well, first reaction was obviously massive disappointment because, you know, we've gone over 100 days. Yeah, I know. But then also real relief when the Prime Minister moved Auckland to a level three and the rest of the country to a level two.

So she's shown she's not mucking around. We are going hard and going fast as we did before. And this gives us the best chance of minimising the numbers of cases, you know, breaking those chains of transmission. It's a really good move. So the family, it's at this stage all four members of the family have tested positive for it. They're saying they've got no connection to the border. How does contact tracing work in this situation? So it's going to kind of go in two directions. So the first direction is obviously to find out

who the family have had contact with over the last few days of them having symptoms and for the few days before they had symptoms. And then putting all of those people into isolation and testing them. But then they also now have to do a little bit of detective work. So going back and saying, right, so where have they been over the last two weeks? Who have they been in contact with in the hope of finding a link to the border? So is that somebody, you know, have they come into contact with someone

who works at the border or has come in through the border? The big testing that's being set up now around Auckland, so the hope is to test thousands of people over the next few days. If that brings up more positives, then exactly the same process happens there. And the idea is that if we get a few cases that are not linked and we start looking at

where those people have been over the last two weeks, then we can potentially find a link that way. So the testing that's being concentrated in Auckland, is that going to be up to people to come forward and have themselves tested? Or will it be random, you know, like street stops? Or again, the drive-in situations? Random street stops. I'm not quite sure what the plan is at the moment. It may well be that they stick to people with symptoms.

But it might also be that they actually do not necessarily random street stops, but get people to come in and it's the rest of the country that we wait and see, you know, just to test people with symptoms. So I'm not actually quite sure what the plan is today. But I know the plan is to get lots of people tested. So if you have any of those main symptoms, you should search out for one of these pop-up places today. Yep, absolutely.

Or call Healthline and they'll tell you where to go and how to get tested. Absolutely. And then for everybody else, you know, start writing down where you have been over the last two weeks, who you have been in contact with. If you have not been using the app, then, you know, get your diaries out, get your thinking caps on

because that information is really important. And we've seen, especially on the COVID website, for level two and three, they've said we should wear masks now, which, I mean, that wasn't massive for us in lockdown last time. Yeah. So the information has been building over the last few months around the world that for basically wearing a mask will help reduce the droplets that are shed by or the virus particles shed by people when they have symptoms. Sorry, even before they have symptoms. So the idea is that masks are all about protecting everybody around you if you are somebody who has the virus and don't even know it.

And so that's why they're being brought in now. Really, really easy to make your own mask. You can use socks. You can use T-shirts. You don't even need to do any sewing. There's loads of videos online showing you how to do it. So, yeah, check those out. Because that was going to be my next question.

Masks are obviously very scarce slash very expensive. You can just use it. It doesn't matter what material you're using. I mean, obviously not like underwear with like holes in them. Lace. Nothing lacy. material you're using. I mean, obviously not like underwear with like holes in them. Lace. Nothing lacy. Yeah, just, again, there's a few layers of work. So two or three layers of material works. Just using cotton for t-shirts is absolutely fine. But, you know, something is better than nothing. So give that a try.

Awesome. Well, Dr. Susie Wells, thank you for your time this morning. My pleasure. And I guess just my message to New Zealanders is better than nothing. So give that a try. Awesome. Well, Dr. Susie Wiles, thank you for your time this morning. My pleasure. And I guess just my message to New Zealanders is don't panic, right? We have done this before and we will do it again and we'll do it by working together. So just stick to the rules and we'll get through this. Perfect. Thank you.

You always make me feel better. Susie, thanks so much. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. From the ZM Think Tank, this is the Top Six. Hello, it's me, Vaughan, with today's Top Six. And it's about that noise that a lot of people got on their cell phones last night. Wow. This is the best little example we can find online.

So when you hear this sound. Stop doing what you're doing. It was horrible. It was louder than that. It was way louder than that. And it goes on more times, right? Yeah, it goes on like three times. I was so disorientated because I'd been like in deep sleep for an hour or so.

And I was just like. Jeez, early night for you. Yeah, I went to bed at like quarter to nine. It was so disorientated because I'd been in deep sleep for an hour or so. And I was just like, oh! Jeez, early night for you. Yeah, I went to bed at quarter to nine. It was so nice. Yeah, how good is that? And then I couldn't get to bed until like 12.30. Yeah. Because I was like, all the things running in your head,

just like, here we go again. Triggered. So it did a whole lot of different things to a whole lot of people. So today's top six is the top six reactions to that COVID-19 message on the cell phone last night. Number six. I haven't got it yet. I haven't got it yet. Why haven't I got it?

Oh, here it is. Because some people's phones get it slightly ahead of others. Yeah, or Megan's phone. One of them, not at all. No, my Samsung got it. But then my husband's iPhone didn't at all. I was like, well, at least you've got me, sweetheart. I'll save you. Stay close to me, my Samsung got it, but then my husband's iPhone didn't at all. I was like, well, at least you've got me, sweetheart. I'll save you.

Stay close to me, my Samsung, sweet cheeks, and you'll be doing okay. Although executive producer into it, and you thought it was a test and went back to sleep. Oopsy days. What if it was a tea tsunami? Oh, for fuck's sake. Guys, this is number five on the list. Oh, God.***ing... Yeah. Guys, this is number five on the list. Oh, God.

Sorry. Number five. And the top six reactions to the COVID-19 message on the cell phone last night. This is just a drill, right? Like when they do the tsunami ones. You always do that, Fletch. Well, I can't help it if we've got minds that think alike. Good God.

Number four on the list of the top six reactions to the COVID-19 message on the cell phone last night. Don't cough. Don't cough. Don't cough. Coughing was just getting okay again. I feel like I've got a tickle now. I know. It's like when someone tells you about spiders and you're like, there's one crawling on my leg.

Zombie. Zombie. Number three on the list of the top six reactions to the COVID-19 message on your cell phone last night Oh, this is a faulty system It's done this before Remember they did this before? It did, remember they didn't mean to send it out? Yeah

And I went to higher ground I ran I climbed up on the roof I said I'm not coming down Yeah Number two on the list of the top six reactions to that COVID-19 message on your cell phone last night. Well, looks like I'm putting on my teacher's hat again.

A hat made out of a box that cask wine came in and the children will be studying drawing, Pixar movies and baking exclusively. Yeah. That's my school. And number one on the list of the top six reactions to that COVID-19 message on our cell phone last night. You got your sensor beep ready? Yep. Catch me if you can. What?

One. Oh, for fuck's sake. We got there. Because we don't need a job. It's bigger fish to fry. Not wrong, though. That is. That was.

Come on. Everybody thought it. I just yelled it very loudly into a microphone that broadcasts it via FM. Yeah. And digital broadcasts to far more people. That is today's top six. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Coming up on the show as we move into alert level two outside of Auckland and in Auckland, level three from midday,

we have psychologist Sarah Chatwin joining us. We've spoken to her several times. She's always very positive. Let's see if we can break her. No, that wasn't what I was going to say. Oh, I didn't know what we were doing. No. Break the psychologist. Let's see if we can break her. No, that wasn't what I was going to say. Oh, I didn't know what we were doing. No.

Break the psychiatrist. Because I think last night we were all triggered a little bit, weren't we? Let's be honest. And even though it's flooding back. Well, it's super important to have the information back out there that COVID-19 alerts. Oh, my God. This is a COVID-19 alert. That's a lot too.

So, you know, there is help out there if you're feeling strained and stressed. And so we're going to chat to her about just some of the things that you can do and we'll give you some of the information to help you as well. And another thing a lot of people are going to be dealing with today, what do I do with my bloody kids? Well, you've got two. I've got two of them and we live in level three. They'll be staying home.

We're very lucky. Shade works from home, so she can just lock them in a cupboard and assume everything will be fine. But what it means for other people, sit up straight, fold your arms, sit still on the mat, and say, Good morning, Mr. Rush. Perry Rush, the National President of the New Zealand Principals Federation. Hello.

G'day, team. And look, you can't break principles. We're tough. I know. I've tried. I've tried my fair share of my time. So what does this mean? I mean, because this is the first time we've had different parts of the country and different levels. Yeah, but look, we've done this before in schools. We've gone up the levels. We've gone back down the levels. We've done it at pace and we've gone back down the levels, we've done it at

pace, and we've done it really well. So look, we've got this, we know what this looks like, and really it's a matter of those procedures just kicking in at school. Right, so in Auckland, should parents send their kids to school today? No. No. I think the Prime Minister's been really clear last night that schools are to be closed in Auckland and she mentioned explicitly at the start of the day and then she went on to say that if you've got children and you're an essential worker then schools will be open

for children of essential workers. Get those kids down to school first thing in the morning. Staff will be there. Okay. Principals will be working with staff to deploy them to the numbers of kids that come onto site this morning. And then any staff that are vulnerable, those staff will be sent home. So then for people who have their kids at home in the Auckland region,

will it go back to the online learning or will that take a couple of days to get back into place? I think that will occur pretty quickly schools have uh powered up with their online learning plans uh in our last lockdown challenge so uh those plans will unfold pretty quickly and yep it might take a day or two to fire those up again i i think that the main message is let's not overreach this we We've got three days now between now and Friday. The Prime Minister has indicated we'll be reassessing again on Friday and we'll get a much better perspective at the end of the week about how this is going to look next week in schools. Right and so for those people that are outside of Auckland what happens today for them?

So it's all students attending at Level 2 throughout the rest of the country and the same expectations apply, really tight expectations around hygiene. If you're not feeling well, for goodness sakes, don't come to school. If you're symptomatic, of course, get tested. I would expect there'll be some limits on large groups throughout the country. We don't want to see large groups of students meeting, so there'll be some limits on large groups throughout the country. We don't want to see large groups of students meeting. So there'll be some controls taking place at schools around that. And I suspect that many schools will be saying to parents, drop your youngster at the gate

and we'll meet you at the gate so that we don't have members of the public or parents coming onto the school site. We can keep the school as protected as possible. Awesome. Well, thank you school as protected as possible. Awesome. Well, thank you very much for the update. And I mean, personally, from my experience, I was super impressed with how my daughter's school handled lockdown and the kids being at home last time and the online learning aspect. That was fantastic.

Yeah, fantastic. I'm certainly really, really proud of principals and teachers and how they've coped during this crisis. Thanks, team. 100. Thanks, Perry. Fleshfauna Megan, the podcast. ZM. and how to cope during this crisis. Thanks, team. 100. Thanks, Perry. Joined on the phone right now by psychologist Sarah Chatwin.

Good morning, Sarah. Good morning. We're back. It's back. We're back. No, no. How did you react last night when you saw the press conference or you got the news alert? Well, my partner's going to tell me off for this, but I guess I wasn't shocked because I have always felt conference or you got the news alert? Well, my partner's going to tell me off for this, but I guess I wasn't shocked because I have always felt a little bit dubious about people coming and going and people being honest. You know how psychologists know human beings?

Yeah. Yeah, I wasn't shocked. I mean, I'm ever hopeful. I'm ever hopeful that people stick to the rules, that they're honest, that when they have symptoms, they don't just go push them under the rug. But of course, we're all so very different. And you know what? It's kind of like when you say to your children, I'm not angry with you, but I'm just disappointed. It's that right now for me. I'm just disappointed because you know what? We did an absolutely brilliant job. We really had every right to pat ourselves on the back and now, yeah, I feel a bit disappointed. Well, a lot of emotions would have come flooding back for a lot of people last night, especially those in Auckland that now have to go to level three from midday today.

Like, yeah, what are you... I know, it's just here we go again. Yeah, what do we do? I know, it's where to from here. Look, I think here's the thing. We have done it once. We did it really well. Our prime minister and, you know, we've got a lot of other lovely politicians as well.

They've all said it's not gone. It is here for a while and perhaps a long while and vaccines are being, you know, formulated as I talk. However, we know what to do now. So I think people should be less. Of course, we're going to be anxious. And I know you're shivering there. And those little reminders are just a horrible reminder that we're back in it.

But we have done it once. We have done it once. We have done it well. So if we do follow the rules, if we are really cognizant of the possibilities of what we can do to other people, what we can do to our families, and if we do act as though we've all got it so that we all stay put, keep calm, do what we did before, I think it's not going to be as hard because it's not new now.

We now have patterns and routines associated with this disease. We just click into them as we did so well before and we will be sweet. I think the fact that it's not new though is we kind of know the emotions and the stress that we went through the first time. So I think the first time we were a little bit ignorant.

We were like, okay, we can do this. But the second time we were like, oh God. We were like, okay, we can do this. But second time we were like, oh, God. Well, the second time, hang on. I'm not going to let you get away with that. Okay, good. Get it. Okay, so, you know, go through this with me. Good grief.

We can do this. This is inconvenient. It is disappointing. But we can do it. And this time we do it better. And maybe there won't be a next time because next time there may be a vaccine, but next time people will just be that more, you know, more vigilant about it. But understandably, and you are right, we will go, uh-oh, deja vu, anxiety, worry.

You know, the issues that come up for people, and you know what? I'm personally not going to put them into this conversation because let's just see how the three days go. I think if there's one bit of advice that I can give everybody is never to be too predictive. We do not know. I mean, they have had contact tracing in place. It hasn't worked perfectly, but they now have all of that background,

that legwork, that spadework. So again, they can click into patterns quite quickly and get on top of things, I'm thinking, quicker than we did before, because you're right. There was a degree of ignorance, a degree of, oh gosh, this is completely new, what do I do? We're relative old hands at it now. You're right, you can't stress about what you don't know yet. Exactly. You have no control over that. What you have control over is keeping yourself safe, keeping yourself social distance, looking after your family, making sure the elder members of your family have support. You know, all of those things that we talked about.

I mean, you know, I was your go-to shrink once upon a time, and here I am again, ready for it and waiting. So, you know, we've got all those tips, and all your listeners should have taken notes. This is what I want them to do. So, you know, we've got control of that kind of stuff. That's what we need to focus on now. We've got until midday.

No hysteria, no drama. Come on, boys, no drama. Don't leave Megan to be the only really stable one. I'm so glad that you know that. She knows us so well. She does. Sarah Chatwin, mindworks.co.nz, thank you so much just for putting us,

our minds at ease a little bit this morning. It is my pleasure, and keep in touch. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Kerry Hannafin joins us, Countdown's General Manager of Corporate Affairs. Good morning, Kerry. Hello, Kia ora team. How are you?

Can I say thanks for upgrading our store, my local store? It's looking very fancy. He says thank you now, but God, he had a whinge when it was going on. Oh, but we did it just for you. Thank you. It's taken you a long time to acknowledge it.

You're scaffolding in my way. Well, no, you moved the biscuits, Kerry. But apart from that, it's fine. That was also for you. I know where they are now. Yeah, hide the biscuits from him. He's trying to save them from himself. In particular, that Auckland downtown countdown last night,

I've seen videos, lines of people, people rushing the supermarkets, almost forgetting that we couldn't shop in level two, three or four last time. How did you guys cope with that last night? Yeah, can you imagine you're just at work, you know, minding your own business and the next minute, boom, there's an onslaught because of course our team didn't know what was going on.

So they got a bit of a fright. No, we had a really, we had a massive wave of people come in to do a bit of panic buying last night. And what we ended up doing actually is we closed the stores that went to 12 o'clock last night in Auckland just simply to keep our people safe and to kind of manage behaviour. There's, you know, as we said last time, and it's true this time, because we survived, right?

There was enough food last time and there will be again this time. There is no need to come in and get massive amounts of food. And the reason why there were shortages last time is because people simply just didn't do the right thing. They bulk brought and made the other people missed out. So, yeah, there's no need for it. But there's also hundreds of people queuing this morning. So, please get the message out there, team. Yeah, because that's the thing.

People have these short memories. Like we were completely fine before and it even got to the stage where there weren't very few lines, really. No, we nailed it last time, everybody. We've got this. Have you guys, in the time that we've gone down to alert level one to now,

the last three months with no community transmission, have you guys been like behind the scenes kind of bolstering those kind of supplies anyway? Yep, absolutely. Yeah, we've been building up and we've got lots of safety stock. Like the stock's good and also we're ready to roll in our stores. We worked overnight last night to make sure our stores were ready this morning right across New Zealand, not just in Auckland, to be safe so that people can come into our shop and know that we've got our processes really fine-tuned

and we'll have lots of safety measures. So it's going to be completely safe. We've got lots of food. If everybody just shops as they normally do, we honestly won't have any issues. What was the general, because obviously the supermarket was packed, but what was the general demeanour of people?

Were people behaving themselves? Because we've got to look after the staff, right? Yeah, it's really annoying. I think the biggest thing that our team felt last time was how difficult it was to manage difficult customers. And I think if you think about how scary it is to go to work when other people are at home and have to front customers who are anxious,

and I get that, but to get bad behaviour, I think, is really demoralising and just completely unnecessary. Like, yeah, the kindness is the thing that we want. We'll take care of the rest, the food and the safety, but if Kiwis treat our team well, then we're all going to be okay together. So when you're remembering your reusable bags,

pack some kindness to take. Oh, you're so good. That's a good line. I'll come and work on some throwaway lines. No, he just wants free biscuits. Don't do it. Yeah, if you come in and manage the kindness, I'll give you some biscuits.

What do you want? I want to do the kindness job. Kindness manager? Can I put this on my LinkedIn? I would like, yeah. What a job, like the manager of kindness and goodness. And that's why people look at me and they think kindness manager. Well, I know you've got to...

We need some humour. We need some humour. Yeah, I know you've got to go and talk to Mike Hosking now on Newstalk ZB so you could probably use that line for free. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do it, do it. If you work that in, we'll get the audio and then we'll be like, yes! You're setting me up for trouble.

Don't do it. Hey, Kerry Hannes Henderson from Countdown, thank you so much for joining us this morning. And just a reminder, be nice to those supermarket workers today. Keeping up to date with the news just became a little easier. As at Herald's new podcast, the front page is your short, sharp daily news podcast. Join me, Damien Venuto, every weekday morning

as I chat with journalists and newsmakers going behind the headlines to break down what you need to know on the biggest news stories of the day. Listen to the front page at nzherald.co.nz slash podcasts and follow us on iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. ZM. Four cases, all in one household. More than one workplace, however, is involved.

Contact tracing is underway. But currently, we know that of those workplaces, it means that we are not talking about one distinct suburb in Auckland who may likely have been affected by those who have tested positive. In line with our precautionary approach, we will be asking Aucklanders to take swift action with us. As of 12 noon tomorrow, Wednesday, August 12th, we will be moving Auckland to level three restrictions for a period of three days until midnight on Friday. So that was Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern last night.

So from midday today, the Auckland region only moving to level three and the rest of the country moving to level two. And then on Friday, you'd assume that will be reassessed. Yeah. But I wouldn't imagine they'd just be like, go back to normal. Back to level one, everyone. No. Yeah.

I mean, we've been here before. We're not. Have to go down through level two. Yeah. You know, it takes a while. If that was a decision made at that time. But last night, the old civil defense alert came through on the phones. And then again this morning, because that would have woken a few people up too.

I mean, that's maybe why they didn't at that time to wake people up. Before the day just to get them. But that, I mean, I was, because obviously we have to get up

at 4.30, 4 o'clock in the morning. I was in bed like quarter to nine last night. I was like, this is great. I'm going to get a good night's sleep. I was jolted awake by that alert. I didn't know what was going on. You know, like when you just get woken up suddenly and you don't know where you are?

I completely forgot what that sound meant and I was like, what's wrong with my phone? It's very late for it to be packing a sound. And then I peered through my fingers at my bright screen and I could see COVID, community transmission, level three. And I was like... There goes that nice early night I had planned. I couldn't get back to sleep until

like midnight, just after midnight. Maybe later. Lying in bed just thinking of all the different scenarios and just I guess it all came rushing back didn't it? Yeah. So we were wondering how you were feeling on a whole

with this return. Yeah, maybe you got the alert or you saw the press conference cut into your television viewing. Yeah, but how did you react? What were your initial feelings? What was your, because your wife told you. Yeah, I was asleep. I thought it was a dream until this morning.

But then, yeah, this morning I was like, oh man, this sucks. Like my initial thing was this sucks. But at the same time, we get to go to work. Yeah. I know you've got to worry about, like, what's going to happen with the cafe because if it's level three, you can't be open. We can be open with no contact. It's usually through a window.

Right. So you've got coffees and, like, slices but no, like, breakfast, cooked breakfasts. But then if it goes back to to level two you're allowed to do the cooked breakfast so you've got to think of what's happening friday night or do what do we plan for and yeah like what do i personally what does vaughn smith have to worry about when he gets home putting a couple of hours into like teaching his kids something but in the the same time, we'll probably just watch Frozen 2 again. I don't have huge stress linked to it. But my immediate thought was there are so many people

who are going to be like, oh, God. And while, you know, this has been on the skirts of possibility and something that people would have to have considered, I'm imagining people had adverse reactions last night when the warning came through. So we're just kind of wondering this morning, you can call us 0800DIALS at M or text 9696. What was your reaction?

What was your first thought and reaction when you got that alert through? God, if I had ice cream, I probably would have gone to that. That would have been a good reaction. I didn't even think of that. Gyms are shut. Yeah, gyms are shut. Level three are shut. Yeah, gyms are shut. Level three are shut.

Level three. Shut gyms. Yeah. So like everyone that came out of lockdown and was like, whoa, banana bread has calories?

Yeah. And started putting in an effort. Maybe going to lose their streak. And then there were the people that had the reaction of, we need to get to the supermarket. And as we've just spoken about, you don't need to do that.

Somebody also, if you're thinking of going to a supermarket this morning. Don't bother. Unless you absolutely 100% have to, don't. You're lining up for a long time. Someone said they went past Countdown in Monaco at 7am and the queues are beyond belief across the length of the building, snaking around the car park, people aren't practising social distancing and this is the area

of New Zealand where the cases have been. The video's coming out of people lining up at the supermarket last night. Some were wearing masks, yes, but there was no distancing. But it's because we're technically not in level 3 yet, so people are still complacent. It's not like at 12 o'clock.

Today the virus is like, well now we can infect. We thought we'd open up this morning. How did you feel last night when you heard the news? Maybe this will be some kind of therapy for us all. Yeah.

Yeah, let's do it. COVID. COVID level three, midday, the rest of the country level two. So when we were speaking about gyms not being open today, that will be just for the, obviously the Auckland region. Gyms are open for the rest of the country.

Yes. And we're wanting to know how you took the news last night when you found out, or maybe even this morning, because some people were just finding out this morning. Yeah, so many text messages from people. I'm a courier. My immediate thought was, I bet we arrived to an increased volume

of ordered beer, wine, and alcoholic freight. Yes. And we were correct. There's the other thing, because in Auckland, the liquor stores will be open until midday, right? If they do open before midday. Don't say that. Don't tell them.

You idiot. Don't tell them. It'll be like a zombie award. Okay. Especially in West Auckland. Yeah, we saw what happened last time in West Auckland, didn't we? So, yeah, some text messages in. I'm concerned, as I feel I won't be able to be with my wife

when she gives birth in two weeks. Oh, man. That's right. I'm an artist. I'm supposed to be premiering a new work at the end of the month. I'm gutted. But I'm very confident in our COVID response, but it does suck. Well, like we talked to Sarah Chatwin before, psychologist.

We've done this before. Yeah. We can do it again. We can. We've got to be positive like that. I'm scared. It had a negative impact on my business last time. Also, my husband is immunocompromised.

So that's always a worry. I was meant to go to Rotorua this afternoon, but now that's been cancelled. I got a message from a friend travelling back last night from Tauranga to Auckland. Said it was nuts leaving the city. People fleeing the city. So if you're not...

But then a lot of those will be people that don't live here, right? Who are just working. But also holiday homes, maybe. We're not supposed to do this. Well, you'll be able to tell because Fong-O-Matar, New World will be absolutely packed this morning. So if you're not in Auckland and you think it's fine to... You've got to be...

Imagine you've got COVID today. Wherever you are in the country, keep your distance from people and do wear a mask, even in level two and three, we are being advised to wear a mask. And that doesn't need to be a proper bought mask. You can fashion a mask out of material, something like that. So how did you take the news last night?

Jack, how did you take it? Oh, it was a bit of a heart attack, really. I mean, it could have waited until, like, the morning, couldn't it? Because I couldn't get back to sleep. I was awake till midnight. I know. My wife reaches over, gives me a slap on the arm, wakes up my 15-month-old son.

I mean, my house was a bloody, it was a crazy house. Yeah, right. Yeah, you're right. I would have liked to be woke. I mean, they did send a bloody, it was a crazy house. Yeah, right. Yeah, you're right. I would have liked to be woke. I mean, they did send another one this morning at seven, so maybe that alert could have just been that. Yeah, stick with the one when people are going to be awake, I think. Yeah, wow.

Okay, Jack, thanks for your call. Michaela, how did you take the news last night? My fiance got the notification first and I nearly burst into tears. I'm supposed to be getting married in two months. You've got a friend as well getting married soon, Megan. In two months as well, yeah. Have you already delayed the wedding? Well, luckily we didn't have to because we were going to get married in October anyway.

But our date is like, we can't. Right. It's locked. Michaela, Vaughan Smith, silver lining guy over here. Always not great. At this stage, there's a valuation period of three days in Auckland and for the rest of the country. That's, you know, in three days they'll be doing a phenomenal amount of contact tracing to see

just how bad it is. Should it be isolated? We've got the things in place that we didn't have the first time around, which caused the four-week level, or the six-week level four lockdown. But we've got all these things in place now, so, you know, this could be

three days here. They evaluate everybody. There's two weeks of everybody doing everything that they should be doing. And you still could be getting married in two months. Yeah. You've still got plenty of time, Michaela. And for people like Michaela is why we should all be doing what we're supposed to be doing. Wearing masks, social distancing so she can get married.

And for the old people that are very vulnerable. Among many. Michaela, thanks for the old people that are very vulnerable. Among many. Michaela, thanks for calling. Let's go to Nikki. How did you take the news last night, Nikki? Yeah, so I was almost half asleep, I guess, and got that really loud alert on my phone. And I thought it was a tsunami.

It was a tsunami warning, and I've got like an extra amount of minutes to get out of the house, and I just moved to Mount Maunganui. Oh, yeah, right. I can see why you were like, let's get up that mountain. Yeah.

Well, that's like Executive Intern Anya last night. She just went back to sleep and thought it was a test alert. So if it was a tsunami, she'd be screwed. Still be in bed Nicky thanks for your call some messages in of your immediate reaction

someone said I'm a social worker in South Auckland and I'm medically panicked about all the families that I'm currently working with there's some people in some really dire situations

and some people who are kind of finally getting back on their feet when this got sent through and that's why we have to be kind

to each other yes definitely there's people going through an untold amount of stuff that they'd probably feet when this got sent through. And that's why we have to be kind to each other. Yes, definitely. People are going through an untold amount of stuff that they'd probably, a lot of them don't want to burden anybody else with their problems. So just don't worry about that. Everybody's got stuff going on. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast.

ZM. Auckland moving into level three at midday and the rest of the country at level two. Now, if you are unwell or you're feeling sick, you have any of those symptoms, stay at home. You can ring Healthline and there are testing centres that have been set up, extra centres in Auckland. You can text TEST to 9696. We will fire you back those testing locations and link to those if you are feeling unwell. Wearing masks in public as well is essential in Level 2 and 3

right across the country. Obviously in Auckland, in the Auckland area, no gyms today. Your cafe, Megan, you've got to, unless you're in essential business. Cafes are doing takeaways and stuff, no contact. Yeah. But yeah, bars and restaurants. It's back, yeah, it's back to that level 3 life in Auckland

Now universities have posted last night and this morning That they will be shut this morning They don't want staff and students going in And schools as well Now Vaughan your kids will be staying at home today in Auckland That's the deal in Auckland where it's level 3 Level 2 around the rest of the country Not, no, they can still go to school.

Yeah, so we asked earlier in the show, Piri Rush, he's the New Zealand Principals Federation President. If kids in Auckland should be going to school today? No. No. I think the Prime Minister's been really clear last night that schools that have been closed in Auckland, and she mentioned explicitly at the start of the day,

and then she went on to say that if you've got children if you're an essential worker in Auckland. Otherwise, no. Kids at home and the rest of the country, yes. But again, if you're feeling unwell, the kids are sick. Stay at home. Stay at home. Yeah, that size is it all right.

ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. We have been saying for some weeks, it was inevitable that New Zealand would get another case of community transmission. This is a tricky virus. We have been working on the basis that it could be at any time

and been preparing for that time. That time is now. The health system is well prepared. And the important thing now is that we stop the spread of the virus in our community. So today from midday, Auckland region moving to level three and the rest of the country to level two. And if you're feeling unwell, stay at home, wash hands, wear masks. Even if you're in a city or town out of Auckland,

to be safe, they're advising masks, which wasn't the go last time, in level two and three this time. And like we've spoken to microbiologist Susie Wiles before earlier, you can make a mask out of anything. There's lots of patterns online. Yeah. Well, even if you don't have a sewing machine, you can just, I don't know,

you can use socks and T-shirts. Something's better than nothing. Yeah, exactly. I know he said it was inevitable, but wow, we got really complacent. Didn't we? I mean, it was quite a shock. It was three months. Well, it got to 100 days.

102 days. And then the streak was broken. But that just shows you how crafty this virus is. This virus doesn't play by rules. It's only rule is survival, and it'll do what it can. And we were really proud of ourselves for 102 days. I know, and then it's embarrassing, isn't it? Because now the rest of the world's like, oh, they've got it again.

We really seem to have ramped it up. When we hit 100 days, everything really seemed like, even Ladbible was like, oh, they've got it again. We really seem to have ramped it up. When we hit 100 days, everything really seemed, even Land Bible was like, how'd New Zealand do it? I was like, Land Bible? Stop it. You guys are getting serious.

One of the first things Andrew said was, what's the rest of the world going to say? I was like, at least we've got problems and also we still have a lot to be proud of. We did it once, we can do it again. And the rest of the world,

it would be like, ha ha, you're mildly hot and they're on fire. Yeah. There's no ha ha-ing in this either. I don't think anybody's going to be stoked to see New Zealand knocked off its pedestal of doing so well. No. Well, we're all crashing back down to earth last night with the news.

I watched a press conference. It made me so angry. Why angry? Well, because I'm not just sad and all the emotions that come with, you know, the lockdown and stuff, but the conspiracy theorists and some of the people commenting on the news conference

that I was watching, I was like, and we've had texts this morning like, oh, this was planned. Yeah, that's right. The government have planned this because, yeah. Like, I don't even, like, what are you saying? They want to put the economy, they want to put lives at risk. In the bin.

Come on. That's not helpful. Don't give an inch to that stuff. It's not helpful. You see it so much in the comments and you're just like, what is wrong with people? I was a little bit overwhelmed last night because we have a cafe and I was like, here we go again.

But we have a cafe, which means at level three we can open to some capacity, which isn't the case for other small businesses, for other businesses. So I think in this instance, what I've learned is count your, for want of a better word, blessings. Because

there's always someone that has it worse off than you. A friend of mine, his father passed away sadly. And the funeral is supposed to be tomorrow. And that'll be limited to what, 10 people? Yeah. Oh, wow. So yeah, I mean, I don't mean it to sound awful, but there's always people in a worse off predicament

or struggling as much as you. So I think we just need to sound awful, but there's always people on, you know, a worse off predicament or struggling as much as you. So I think we just need to take a big deep breath today and be like, we've done it once. We can do it again. Let's do it again. And then when the lines at the supermarket go down, we can go get some biscuits. Yeah.

Have some biscuits today. I can't rely on biscuits as much this time. I simply can't put that weight on Arnott's. I can't say... Arnott's have shown that they can cope. I can't say, hey Arnott's, carry me. You're going to need the help of the Griffins

cookie beer and the cookie time cookie muncher as well. This is a, you guys have got to come together. You have got to put aside your biscuity difference and all band together to carry me with the biscuits. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Wow, all the emotions flooding back. God, I just ordered Kahlua instead of Bailey's.

I love Kahlua. I love Kahlua too. And I knew Sade liked some creamy alcoholic thing. And so I ordered Kahlua and I said, great news, I ordered you Kahlua. And she said, it's Bailey's, you moron. And then she sent me this. Oh, babe. This.

Oh, yeah. The girl from the office crying. It's a great job. Hey, we've got to be nice to each other, right? We're all stressed. Maybe you could make Bailey's ice cream or something. I'll find some Bailey's for you. Well, today at midday, the Auckland region moving to level three

and the rest of the country to level two. Masks in public, please, and be kind to each other. And please don't rush your supermarket. Already reports this morning. You say that over and over again, but it's happened again, hasn't it? Huge lines. If you're talking about a supermarket, also just remind people that the social distancing thing's back in force.

Like, don't wait till 12 to start practising common sense. Yeah, start now. Although all the drunk people that were coming home when I was walking to work this morning would say the bars were certainly... Were they wearing masks? No. The alcohol killed it? Maybe, yeah.

No, it doesn't. So we've come up with an idea just to vent because we do need a vent. Yeah. I guess we're all just a bit stressed just to vent because we do need a vent. Yeah. I guess we're all just a bit stressed now. We're the team of five million. Yeah. And we need a team vent. You know when you get together and you...

It's like a charm. Yeah. So this is our plan is that we ask you to call 0800 dials at M and when we answer the phone, you've got to be yelling. Like just to get it out. To get it out. And then what we aim to do is get everybody calling and we'll just go through all the phone lines. So when we answer the phone, you've got to be yelling. And so it's one big long yell. The nation's longest yell. The nation's longest yell. A big venti. A big venti yell. Expulsion of noise. So we want you to call right now 0800-DARZ-M and yell into the phone.

So when we answer it, you just let it out. Yeah. Just let out what you're feeling. Do you have a good, could you give us an example of a good. The other day we talked about somebody who couldn't scream. They didn't even have a scream and I thought I was pretty good. I'm like, I can yell. It always hurts though.

I always push it too far. Well, do you just want to give us a vent? Do you want to just off the mic just Off the mic. Back a little bit. Yes! Oh, did that feel good?

Yeah, it did. Okay, so I'll wait 100 dials at him right now. I reckon we just go and answer the phone. So they're all lit up now. And when we answer, you've got to already be yelling. So if the phone's ringing now, 0800 dials at him. A continuous yell.

A continuous one. Just be yelling. All right, let's start. ZM, good morning. I've done 11 months on home detention and then you stupid. I don't know what happened there. Okay, we'll go to the next one. Why don't I do this?

Hello? Yes, good vent, good vent, good vent. Sorry. Good. That was a good letting off of steam. Next one. No. Do you want to vent?

No. Okay. That was enough for them. Would you like a vent? Oh, that was very good. You're down a tunnel. Are you okay? Would you like a vent?

This is going really well, isn't it? That was a good vent. That was a good vent. That was a good vent? This is going really well, isn't it? That was a good vent. Yes! That's a good vent. ZM, good morning. Have a vent. Oh, vent in the morning. That was a vent in the morning.

That was a good vent. Have a vent. Good morning. Yeah. Ice cream truck. What are we doing? It's risky business, isn't it? Do we keep going?

It's a real roll of the dice every time It's Russian Roulette It really is ZM, good morning, have a vent, a yell I liked that That was like almost a perfect movie yell Someone's computer had a little vent there Have a vent, good morning, ZM

Good morning Good morning, ZM. Good morning. Good morning. Straight roll through. That was great. Great vent. Yeah, good morning, ZM. Have a vent. There's some passion behind that one.

That was good. That was good, yeah. Passion. ZM, good morning. Have a vent. Passion. ZM, good morning. Have a vent. Wow. You should be in heavy metal. That was good.

Everyone else's screaming actually makes me feel quite good. I know. Especially when it's a hearty one. ZM, good morning. Have a vent. Why? Why? Why? Why?

Why? That was nice. He's back again. Good. I love it. Why? Oh. Yes.

I didn't even. They just started. They do. That's exactly what's required. That was a great vent. ZDM, good morning. Have a vent. Yeah, that was good. Short and vent. Yeah, that was good.

Short and sharp. Yeah, we'll do it. Punchy, punchy vent. Do we want a couple more? Are we feeling good? If we need a vent, that's what we're here for. Yeah, ZDM, good morning. Have a vent.

Go the fuck away. Okay. Oh, yeah. It's always a warrior's fan. Good on you for being very swift on that. Thank you. Well, I don't know if I got there fast enough, but we tried. Good morning, ZM.

Have a vent. Level two. Yeah, well, we'll just pull him down. We want yelling and screaming. You're worried when someone comes in with a... Yeah. ZM, good morning. Have a vent.

Yeah, no, we just want to... Just yelling. Yeah, we just want yelling. We don. Yeah, we just want to be yelling. We don't want to hear your conspiracy theories. That's what it felt like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good morning. I'm here to tell you.

I'm not going to wear a mask because, you know. ZM, good morning. Have a vent. Yes! What a good vent. What a great vent. I think we leave it there. I'm sweating.

I think we leave it there. Clam sweating. I think we leave it there. Clammy. Roll the... I don't know if it's the screaming or the other. It's like, you know what a stag do where the stag's running and everyone's trying to shoot him with paintball guns? And the stag's like, I'm not getting hit. I'm not getting hit.

And then... That's what that felt like. He gets taken down. And we're going to do it. We're going to do it without getting hit. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. The most shocking thing out of all of this, the whole thing,

Auckland moving to level three, the rest of the country to level two, is that this weekend, executive intern Anya had a birthday party that she now has to cancel and we weren't invited to. Absolutely appalling. Appalling. 4.17am. Oh my god, what the F? This is from Anna who was asleep

last night when the alerts came through. I said haha, I was also asleep. Sade kind of told me. I'd assumed I'd dreamt it. Because you did hear the alert that went off but you thought it was a test. So you went back to sleep. I was like, what a bizarre time to do a test. Oh, well, night, night.

That's the arrogance of someone who lives coastally but elevated. Yes. Yes. The sort of casual attitude towards a possible tsunami that you didn't needn't worry about. Well, then you said, does this mean my birthday karaoke night is cancelled? Because Friday's your birthday, right? Mm-hmm.

Hmm. Well, given I can't recall an invite. No, there's no. I had to look in my Facebook events to see you hadn't accidentally invited me and I hadn't clicked yes. Also, I understand those two, but... It was a small karaoke function planned with a few friends. Five

or six. So we're not even top six. Look, I love you for your work. At work, you know. I love you for your work. Wow. I love you for your work. Wow, now I know what all of those, you know, really stereotypical tropes of drama series

where the guy's having an affair with someone at work and he keeps telling her that he's going to leave his wife for her and she's like, okay, patiently waiting. I know how they feel. Yeah. I love you when I'm at work. Yeah, but if you guys had come, then I would have felt like I had to be your producer for the evening

and I'd be like, do you guys all sorted? Do you know where you're going? I'm all set. Right, you're going to do your karaoke song now. Like, it wouldn't have been fun. All I require is that you carry my bag and order me an Uber. That's not too much to ask. I'm devastated.

Dancing in the moonlight, top loader. I had it all ready to go in my mind. Is that your karaoke song? And I was going to be such a good night and now bloody COVID. Well, yeah, it's ruined a lot. There it is, baby.

Such an odd choice. Why is this your karaoke song? No, this is not what I meant. No, it's your 30-second intro. It's never a song that you really like. It's just a song you know you think you can nail. And that is someone who's worked on a lot of regional radios. Like, no, no, it's got a 30-second intro.

I'm not doing it. This is our radio. It's a supernatural delight. It's such a banger. You are doing it This is It's a supernatural delight It's such a banger You are doing it It gets the crowd going Dancing in the moonlight People love it Dancing in the moonlight

Yeah well that's But a lot of Unfortunately a lot of events Have been I guess cancelled In the next couple of days Or will be Level 3 for Auckland

Level 2 for the rest of the country. That does mean that bars and restaurants... You can do takeaways, but you can't go to a bar, obviously. Would I be stepping out of line to say Top Loader were a one-hit wonder? Not at all. Okay, good.

Please, everybody's with me on that. I feel like Arkley's Heel, their second most played song, probably just gets played because people play this song and it just flows over onto that song. Yeah.

Hey, good news though. We're in your bubble. We could still celebrate with you on Friday. Yay! Nope. Okay. Oh, that's right.

Bubbles. Do you want to celebrate with me out in the bubble? You don't get to celebrate with me in the bubble. Oh, no. Sorry to burst your bubble, your birthday bubble,

but it's a no. It's your chance to win $500 cash at midday and then again at four. Thanks to Save My Bacon, a safe place to borrow money online. We'll ask you a question about this fact of the day. Today's fact of the day is five of the 30 biggest fish ever caught were caught off the coast of the North Island of New Zealand. We have big fish. Massive fish. Marlin big fish. Massive fish.

Marlin. Yes. Oh, okay. I was like, what's a big fish? A marlin. Number 22 is the striped marlin. I can tell you. Hold on.

I'm just going to scroll back up to the striped marlin. We have a list of all the biggest fish ever caught. This is nuts. Who does this list? This is crazy, eh? So I can tell you that was caught of Turukaka. Bill caught that. It was 224 kgs.

The biggest stroke to Marlon. It was 1986. This is the Prime Minister's fiancé, Clank Gayford, on there because he loves fishing. He loves, but he doesn't have one of the biggest fish. He hasn't got one of the biggest. It took him an hour and 30 minutes. That doesn't seem like a long time for a Marlon of that size.

Not that I've ever, ever caught one. I'd be too scared to get real tired. I'd love to do that and release it, as long as it doesn't stress it out too much. Well, for an hour and a half, it's getting towed in by its mouth, fighting as best it can. It thinks it's getting away, and then it just gets wound back in. It wouldn't be stressed at all.

Is there an official governing body of records for this? Because what's to stop you hauling in a marlin and chucking in a couple of dumbbells from the gym? I remember as a child, one summer at Whangamata, the annual fishing competition that happened, there was a massive controversy. Was it marred or rocked by controversy? It was bludgeoned by controversy.

It was marred, rocked, bludgeoned, shook, rattled, rolled. What, because what, some old mate? No, so what happened is, because the deal is with fishing competitions, it has to happen, you have to catch the fish and the hours allocated to the fishing competition. Like, a 24

hour fishing competition has to be caught within that 24 hours. Yeah, right. Some old mate rocked in with this massive snapper, and he was like, look at my snapper. And they were like, that's a big snapper. And they weighed it, and it was like one by miles. However, one of the judges was like, this has what looks, because you know when you freeze a fish, when it defrosts,

it doesn't defrost the same. It's not like red meat because what is it, the water content or something? It deteriorates the sounds of the fish meat. Okay. And they were cheating.

Some old mate was like, one of the judges was like, this has been frozen. Yeah, right. And then they did some investigations and it turns out that he'd caught it

like outside of the thing. He's like, well, that fishing competition is coming up. I might whack this in the freezer and then when the fishing starts, I'll defrost it. Take it to a fishing CSI and the pathologist is like, time of death.

They found it out. One month ago. Yeah. It's been frozen. Yeah, that's pretty much what happened. It was pretty loose. It rocked. It rocked.

It flung him a tarp. Yeah, wow. I can't remember the guy's name, but it was banned to the battery. He got put in witness protection because that's a pretty big thing. So the world rankings are from the International Game Fish Association. So there you go. That's who's monitoring it. So we've got the striped marlin.

We've covered that. Scroll down on my list. And what was the fact of the day was that we have five of the 30th biggest. Five of the top 30 biggest fish ever caught. Bingo. We're off the coast of the North Island of New Zealand wow

Gay she caught the largest narrow tooth shark I was going to say a shark would be in there surely 242 kg she did that in 1993

did she spear gun that how did she get that no she wound she would have wound it in I'm imagining wound it in number 14 does a trawler

at a fishing competition no well I don't know the Thres 14. Do you use a trawler at a fishing competition? No. Well, I don't know. The Thresher shark. What I find about trawlers when they accidentally catch a big fish, they pretty hush-hush on that. Yeah.

We don't need cameras on the boats. There's not like the biggest Maui dolphin trawled in by a Norwegian shipping trawler on this list. No. The Thresher shark. Yeah. That was 1983. I'm going to go through them all as soon as they were here. The Big Eye Thresher Shark,

which you'll recognise looks a lot like a Thresher Shark, except what do you think the difference is? It's got a big eye. You got it, buddy. It was 363 kgs. That was a three hour,

45 minute haul in there by Diane. Diane. You know where Diane did it? She did it, girl. She did it to the car again. Oh, of course she did. Yeah. That just makes me not want to go swimming there. The largest, I actually remember

when this happened. The largest Pacific bluefin tuna was caught by a lady called Donna. It took her 4 hours and 11 minutes to wind in off the Three Kings. I love that so many females are getting into this. I'm just, I don't remember it being the day before my birthday,

but it was on the 19th of February, 2014. I remember that. Do you remember that? Picture some of it. How do you remember that and recall that? We were on gardening leave. It was just before we started here. And I think I had a lot of time to just absorb.

God, gardening leave. Nice passive. Gardening leave is great. It's like a level four lockdown, but you still get paid and have a job. And you still get to go out and do it your own. But same rules go. You can start drinking in the morning and there'll be no charge. That's pretty great.

So today's fact of the day, and the one you need to remember, to win money at 12 with Georgia, at 4 o'clock this afternoon with Brie and Clint, and the 50k fact of the day, is five of the biggest 30 fish caught were off the coast of the North Island of New Zealand. All thanks to Save My Bacon. Fact of the day, day, day,

day, day. Flesh, fawn and Megan, the podcast. ZM. The Minister of Education and Health, Chris Hipkins, is on the phone. Good morning. Good morning. Thanks for your time today. Probably pretty chaotic and busy. Lots of things to be across today, so we do appreciate it.

Yeah, there's a few things going on. Did you get much sleep last night, Chris? About five hours. I left here just after midnight, I think, and back here just after about five. Right. Good Lord. Have we heard anything about the Christchurch rest time?

Have those test results come back? Yeah, those test results have been negative. So that is a case of someone having a bit of a sniffle. So that's good news. But obviously the case in Auckland is a bit of a sniffle. So that's good news. But obviously, the case in Auckland is a bit of a puzzle still. We can't quite figure out where they might have picked that up from because in their close contacts, it doesn't seem to be anybody who's working at the border or who's been travelling. So obviously, a lot of testing

and a lot of contact tracing going on there. So are there extra pop-ups today for Auckland residents if they're worried and concerned and want to test? So are there extra pop-ups today for Auckland residents if they're worried and concerned and want to test? Yeah, so we've been ramping up our testing capacity today quite substantially. So if people want to test, the first thing they should do is ring Healthline and Healthline will be able to talk them through the process.

They'll be able to tell them where to go. What does it look like? What is the contact tracing now? You say that it wasn't like a direct contact to someone who's been overseas or, you know, come back from overseas. What does contact tracing look like now? Does it go just, we need to know everywhere you've been in the last two weeks, three weeks, four weeks?

What's the... That's right. So one of the key things that everybody should be asking themselves is, if I got a positive COVID test and somebody said to me, who have you been in contact with over the last two weeks how quickly could you give that answer that's the reason we want everyone using the COVID tracer app because the faster people can give us answers to those questions and the COVID tracer app is obviously a real help in that regard then the faster we can do the contact tracing and so at the moment we're contact tracing everybody that the family have been in contact with, and then we'll test all those people, including workmates and so on.

Then we'll also be looking at everybody they've been into contact with, if any of them come back as being positive cases. So when you think about that, when it's everybody they've been in contact and then everyone they've been in contact with, everyone I've been in contact with, you can see why these sorts of, like why we went straight to level three today, because it can go far and wide so quickly. We've seen it overseas. That's right. And, you know, what we know from overseas is move fast at the beginning.

Don't dilly-dally. Get in there. Shut down the potential for it to keep spreading and identify right back to source, you know, where it might have come from and get everybody into isolation. Then you can start to reopen up again. But, you know, at this point, we wanted to move fast.

We'll know a lot more on Friday than we know today. So on Friday, are you, do you think we should be preparing ourselves to stay in these kind of, this kind of level? Like, we're not going to go back to level two or one on Friday, are we, really? Look, I think it really depends on what we find out in the next 72 hours. So my advice to people, it's always good to be prepared. But look, we'll just know more on Friday.

And a couple of different things for level two and three today from midday. You'd recommend wearing a mask. That's right. So particularly if you're in Auckland, if you're going to do your supermarket shopping or that essential travel that you're allowed out for, then please wear a mask. For people around the rest of the country, you know, get hold of a mask, have it there. And by all means, you know, we do encourage people to be using them when they're in public. Is there any word on whether that will become mandatory? A few questions this morning on whether that was actually mandatory to wear masks.

Yeah, look, I'm still waiting on some advice around that, you know, some legal advice around that. So the Prime Minister is doing another press conference later in the morning, and she'll clarify that for everybody later in the morning. And what about people travelling out or into Auckland? Because it's different this time, it's Auckland on Level 3, the rest of the country on Level 2. Are you allowed to travel between Auckland and Hamilton, for example? So, look, the message to people is if you live in Auckland, then by all means, you know, go back to Auckland and go home and stay home. If you're in Auckland now and you want to go home to wherever your home is

and it's not Auckland, then go home and stay home. So go home and stay home until at least Friday, and by then we'll have further advice for people. Awesome. Well, thank you. That was very clear. Good luck with the rest of the day and the rest of everything that comes with this stage of it.

We look forward to Friday having beaten it, kind of isolated it, and put it in its place again. Well, let's hope so. So, look, thanks very much, everybody. Stay safe out there. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Ooh, um, um, um, um. The Crusaders

won the Super Rugby Aotearoa trophy. So that was their game at the weekend. They don't even need to really play the game this weekend. Yeah, but I was going. Was. Was. So that will be Blues Crusaders, Eden Park

Sunday. I was going with my Crusaders jersey that has my name on the back. I was like, I can finally wear this. I haven't seen them make a call on that yet and obviously they are making a call on the level stages on Saturday but I just can't imagine that's going to happen.

If it does, it will be without a crowd. Or a spaced crowd. I don't know. They'll make a call on that. Yeah. But it's probably not hopeful. Anyway, the trophy.

They broke it. They what? Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. They broke it.

They broke the trophy. They broke it. How? Well, it's got a cradestone. You don't whisper. It's very hard to hear whispering on the radio. So it's got purnamo on the top and like the shape of a patu. Yeah.

And that got broken off. Oh. And then the base is like a beautifully carved. Totara. Yeah. It's supposed to look like an upturned waka. And that's got a big chunk out of it. There's a chunk.

What did they do to it? It looks like a chew mark. Someone have a chew on the trophy. Guys, own up. I won't be angry, I promise. But did somebody chew on the trophy? Oh, no. This is a special trophy.

Someone leave it on the couch and the dog got it? It does. It just looks like a gnaw, gnaw, gnaw, gnaw, gnaw, gnaw, gnaw. Like someone got the corner of their teeth into it and gave it a gnaw, gnaw, gnaw, g. This is a special trophy. Someone leave it on the couch and the dog got it? It does. It just looks like a gnaw, gnaw, gnaw, gnaw, gnaw, gnaw, gnaw. Like someone got the corner of their teeth into it and gave it a gnaw, gnaw, gnaw, gnaw, gnaw. And the ponamu was,

like there's a rod sticking up, like a nail it almost looks like. So they kind of must have put that, drilled a hole and put that on that. But that's gone. It's come out. Yeah. Well, no, it was like a Y shape

at the top and it sat in it. Oh, it sat in it. But apparently there was also an attachment at the other end. Oh, right. The bit that is showing is broken. It's broken off. Mum, mum, mum, mum. Apparently designed to be passed around and someone just accidentally dropped it.

Wow. Do we believe that? Someone had a few Canterbury drafts, I reckon. Oh, no. So what? But I don't imagine that that can just be, like, glued back together. Well, the thing is there's photos of it.

Oh, no, there's one. I was going to say all the photos of it with its damage and the missing ponamu on the top. There's no ponamu around anymore, but I see now that there's one with it. I thought maybe someone had lost that. Right, okay. Oh, but no, but my mum couldn't even look after it for

a couple of days. Mum's gonna kill you! I'm gonna tell her you did it. Don't you lie to mum about it. So there you go. They've broken it. That's why we can't have nice things. Yeah. It's Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. If you enjoyed this podcast, why not give ZM's Bree and Clint a listen too? Subscribe on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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