ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 13th May 2020

Episode Date: May 13, 2020

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It's the last day of Level 3. Yes. Yeah. I think. Yes. Midnight Tonight goes down to Level 2. There's something that people are doing from Midnight tonight goes down to level two. There's something that people are doing from midnight tonight, as soon as they can, that I want to talk about coming up.

Okay. You're not doing this or you'll be asleep. No, I'm not. No. Midnight. No. No. Fast asleep.

All right. We'll talk about that next. Still no Vaughn today? Still no Vaughn. You couldn't hear that eye roll. Whenever any of us are sick, we do the eye roll. We're like, they're not sick. Oh, get in here.

How sick are you? God, this whole COVID thing's made it so cool for people to stay home sick. Remember when we used to just work through a sniffle? Yeah. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. Well, the last, ZM.

Well, the last day of Level 3 today, and it has been announced, Countdown have announced that when it gets to Level 2, they're going back to their normal opening hours, and I'm assuming all the supermarkets will do this, and they are lifting the limits on any products that have buy limits at the moment. So all the essentials when you go in? Yeah, all the essentials. Toilet paper.

Yeah. Soap. It's been quite strict. Yeah, like hand sanitizer kind of stuff. That'll just go back to normal. Good. From level two. Do we still have to line up? Yeah.

So still social distancing. And still limits of how many people are allowed in the actual supermarket. I'd say so, yeah. Another thing people are doing, because it's lifted at 12 a.m. midnight. It's lifted at midnight tonight. So a lot of hairdressers are opening at midnight tonight. I said that, didn't I? I said these people are going to have 18-hour days.

They could be chock-a-block. Absolutely packed. But starting at midnight. So one in particular, Christchurch Barber, Cathedral Junction Barbers. Conrad is the owner and he's been absolutely inundated with demand. Lots of people who have done lockdown home hair jobs, patchy dye jobs, he said. Homemade bleach. Someone who decided,

we've all decided to cut their own fringes. There'll be a lot of those. Yeah, right. Bowl cuts, lots of stuff that need to be fixed. And so he's going to try and like meet the demand, going to open at midnight tonight. Do you think it's because he, or a lot of people just got into that COVID.

Saying I'm really late. Yeah, they just got into that COVID. Saying I'm really late. Yeah, they just got into that COVID lifestyle of going to bed at 3 or 4 in the morning, sleeping into a lunchtime. But are they going to work right through? Like open at 12 and then close at, when are they going to close? Just keep going. Just keep going. Rolling shifts.

Good Lord. I already fall asleep at the hairdressers. Have you booked in anywhere? Right after the show tomorrow tomorrow I'm getting my nails done. Right. Straight after. And I got in touch with my hairdresser but I think I might be a bit late for that. I'm going to have to wait a little bit. Right. How long, do you know how long

she's kind of booked up for? I said, I was like I'm happy to wait a month but no longer than that. I meant what, she'd be booked out a month? Well because she's trying to get the backlog of the people who had appointments during lockdown. So their first in, first serve, they missed out. So she's already got a backlog of, what, seven weeks to get through. And then everyone can start booking after that.

Wow, that's nuts. But you don't want your hairdresser to be sleepy, though. No, well, see, that's the thing. Like, you're getting a 3 a.m. haircut. And a trim on the ear. Do that thing where you just doze a little bit and they just cut an inch extra off. Yeah.

You both wake up cuddling on the floor because you fell asleep. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. The New South Wales government. Figures have been released in the news, and this has got kind of people here in New Zealand thinking, hmm, this is going to be a little bit of a moneymaker. Because, you know, we're going to have to pay post-COVID. We're going to have to pay for all of this.

Yeah. This could be a big moneymaker. In Australia, in just two months, the phone detector cameras, the cameras that detect if you're on your cell phone while driving, have raked in $7.1 million Australian dollars. In two months? Two months. So they installed them at the start of the year. And for two months, they said, look, instead of a fine and demerit points, you'll get a warning if you're caught. So drivers had two months notice.

Now, there are no signs that say camera area. There's no warning. There's no warning. These are just all over New South Wales. Yeah. So this is only New South Wales. Just New South Wales. So Sydney and New South Wales, that state, one state,

not the entire Australia. Wow. So they and New South Wales, that state, one state, not the entire Australia. Wow. So they had their grace period and then that's when the fines came in. 11,790 fines were issued in March alone. April 9,000. And then April, a lot of people were locked down. So a lot less driving, fewer cars on the road. In New South Wales, the minimum penalty for holding a phone while driving is $365 New Zealand dollars.

Whoa. And five demerit points. God, that's a lot of money. So that goes up to $485 New Zealand dollars if you're caught in a school zone on your phone. Okay. Well, yeah, that's fair enough. But yeah, and no warning.

And yeah, crazy. So do you have to be holding the phone in your hand? What if it's on your lap or? No, so the cameras use artificial intelligence. This is some China state kind of big brother stuff. Yeah, so the artificial intelligence automatically reviews the image to detect whether you're on your phone. And they work both day and night. So see, here's a photo of a truck driver at night.

And he's literally got the phone in both hands on top of the steering wheel. Good Lord. That's dangerous though. He's driving a truck. I mean, all of it's dangerous. Well, it's not dangerous though. Yeah. He's driving a truck. I mean, all of it's dangerous. What's not dangerous when you do it,

is it? No. The shock on your face indicates you've just seen a really, what have you seen? You tell me what you're seeing in that photo.

I'll pass you my laptop. She's got both hands on the phone, on the steering wheel and the passenger has his hand down. The passenger's driving. Oh, I thought the passenger's got his hand down her pants. No, he's holding the steering wheel.

Is he? Oh, I'm not sure. I like to think he's holding the steering wheel. That shows where both our minds went, eh? Because the hand cuts off because of the dash. But why can't, whatever she's doing on her phone, why can't he be doing that and she continue driving? Yeah, but sometimes you don't want to give people your phone,

especially your friends, if that's a friend. Oh my God, she's both hands on her phone looking down and he's reaching over there, either steering. Do we think he's holding the steering wheel or is the hand down the pants there, Executive Intern Anya? What do we think there? It certainly looks like a hand down the pants. Does it?

Yeah, see? Jared, what do you think? Mountie? Yeah, that's definitely a hand down the pants. There's a lot to take in in that photo, but he should be pissed off that she's not fully in, like, she's on her phone while shenanigans is going on. I hate to say it, but I agree. Hand down pants. Yeah, hand down pants.

So, Megan, out of everybody, you've got the least dirtiest mind. I'm the most innocent around here. But like, should take the car out of the equation. Should he not be upset that she's like on his phone while... Yeah, she's not getting the attention. She's not even paying attention. Yeah, yeah.

Who could you possibly be texting that's more important than everything that's going on there? Yeah. You could have been the food order they were going to pick up. Oh yeah, okay. be texting that's more important than everything that's going on there. Wow. You could have been the food order they were going to pick up. Oh, yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

Well, anyway, New Zealand authorities now looking at these cameras, so I'd say they won't be far away. Good Lord. Because, you know, it's an issue here, the old distracted driving. Well, from that photo, be aware they can actually see in your car. Yeah. So wear pants. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, truck drivers are like, this is nothing. This in your car. Yeah. So wear pants. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, truck drivers are like, this is nothing. This is our everyday. This is like every day. Yeah. There's a dating site we need to talk about. It's had a massive surge recently. It's called. Tinder.

Big One. Big One. Right. Okay. Big One is the name. It's aimed specifically towards men, for them to sign up, if they have above average penises. Okay, right.

So anyone and then anyone who prefers. Are you wishing that Vaughn was here today? Why? And not sick. I feel like he'd really appreciate this chat. He would not be allowed on this site. He's also not here to defend himself. He would say the same.

He would, he would. You know that. So it has seen nearly 400 women join in one week. Right. So they've noticed an increase during lockdown. Oh, yes. Wow, okay. So, to join this website,

if you're a guy, you need to have a, you need to be larger than 5.5 inches, which I've converted to, it's like 14 centimetres. Right, okay. That's the minimum. Okay. But how do you, like, when you join up, do you have to, like, prove, or, like, do you have to minimum Okay But how do you like

When you join up Do you have to like prove Or like do you have to have a photo Or like I don't know And that's How do I say That's add attention

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, right Okay, so you gotta Right, okay That's not, yeah So This sounds Silly But the founder of the website Is saying that Yeah, that's not, yeah. So this sounds silly,

but the founder of the website is saying that men who are 5.5 inches or more often find it hard to achieve satisfaction. Right. When they are larger. I'm trying to do this politely. You're doing well so far. Yeah, doing well. And also, not every woman is excited by it.

A lot of them find it intimidating and a little bit... Scary. Yeah. Fair enough. But then if they didn't, this would be the perfect website. Yeah. The perfect dating site. You know what you're getting.

And so this is for guys, like, they can sign up. The women know that they're not going to be like, well, the guys know they're not going to be frightened off because they've literally signed up to Big One, Big One Dating. What about the, okay, so this, I've just clicked on, I've clicked on this website. No, the news story. I've clicked on the news story.

The founder of the site said people can also block those who might be lying about the size of their penis, adding, we have introduced a not big enough report them button. Ooh. Ouch. Imagine if you got a not big enough reported. That's like a rating afterwards. Yeah.

Well, that's how, you don't have to prove to get in, but you might, if you lie about it, you might get a not big enough rating once you're in there. And then what, you just get banned from the site or something? Yeah. Ouch. How do they verify it? Because what if someone's just scorned, you know?

This just sounds like the admin or whoever made this app wants to see some doodle pictures. Yeah. But it's got a heap of women joined recently. So 833 men and then 391 women have joined. Right. Yeah. Big one dating. I think it's just a UK thing at the moment.

Right, okay. You don't think that would go down well here? Oh, I mean, yeah, I think it will go down well anywhere. You know, but not here yeah, I think it will go down well anywhere. You know? But not here yet, I don't think. I'm just looking at the... Are you on the site still? No, so at the bottom, there's a list of the countries,

and they have ranked the countries into groups of size around the world. Okay. We... New Zealand. ...are in the second to bottom one. Look, we're in the orange column, Megan. Look, I'll show you. It's not good.

I've never actually had. For the national ego. I've never had a long-term relationship with a Kiwi guy. Never have. South Africa. Let me see where they are on the list. It's a traffic light system, right? So it goes red, orange,

red the bottom. Oh, they're in yellow. They're in second to biggest. Yeah, right. Okay. And what was your first husband? Where was he from? Czech Republic.

Oh, they're in the top list. Wow. Says a lot about you, doesn't it? That I've never dated a Kiwi guy. Yeah, right. Okay.

We've got the latest next. Elon Musk shed some light on how to say his son's name. Details next. You need to go to the Ecuador or Ghana or Jamaica. Jamaica me crazy. Or the Congo. The Congo's the best. Okay.

Jeez. Oh, you have to tell us now. Oh, yeah. Congo's the best. Okay. Jeez. Oh, you have to tell us now. Oh, yeah, Congo's number one. Okay. That's, yeah. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. The awards, the best airport in the world has been announced. Do they have an award ceremony for that?

Seems untimely. Oh, yeah. They do, Megan. Every year they have a big award ceremony. They've had to cancel it this year like most award ceremonies and public events. For the eighth time the world's best airport

is... Changi. Changi. Do you say Changi? Changi. I don't know. I don't know how to say it. I've always just said Changi. Singapore. Yeah, Singapore is the airport. It's a good airport. It's a good airport. We've been through there, haven't we?

Shopping, yeah. Good shopping. Great shopping. Just easy to get around. Easy to get lost in. Yeah, very easy to get lost in. I don't remember. Every time this wins, I'm always like,

I don't remember the food court being that great. Do you remember that food court? It was like a real crappy mall food court. I know, but were we in the right area? Because it's so big. I imagine it's probably got more. Do you think we're in the staff cafeteria? Have we wandered into the wrong place?

Yeah, there's lots of little areas, and I went to one that only had a Dunkin' Donuts and a sushi place, and I was like, well, that's one extreme to the other. Yeah, right. I didn't want either. Well, for the eighth year, it has taken out the Skytrax World Airport Awards. Tokyo's airport came in second and Doha third.

I've been to that a couple of times. It's a good airport. All these airports, it's big and easy to get around. Yeah. Not like, you know, American airports where they're all squeezed in and it takes hours to get through security. You're right though. When you said each of those airports,

I was thinking of food memories. I just remember there being like a bougie popcorn place at the Doha one. Yep. Where you can buy like every flavour of popcorn you can imagine. Yeah. They, the winning airport, Changi Airport,

has had a 70% drop in traffic in March, obviously because of the coronavirus pandemic. Still had 101.65 million traffic in March, obviously because of the coronavirus pandemic, still had 1.65 million passengers in March, compared to March 2019, they had 5.63. That's in one month. That is insane. I'm still surprised they had over a million people go through in March.

Well, they've closed one of their terminals. Because you can, online, like a lot of sites have put up montages of empty airports. It's so creepy. And, you know, people have done flybys of all the planes parked up. Like, it's crazy times. Even just seeing pictures of Auckland Airport empty.

I know. Because when does it ever look like that? Yeah, I had a friend that flew essential travel, had to go for work. And just, it was unreal. Yeah, I had a friend that flew essential travel, had to go for work, and just, it was unreal. Like, no one outside. And on his flight, there were like five people on a jet. Yeah. Like, just, it's spooky stuff.

I'm never going to get angry at that traffic person again for telling me to move on. This isn't a waiting area. I don't know if that person will even be there at the moment. Yeah. Sadly. Yeah. No New Zealand airport,

and the Auckland airport doesn't come in the top 10. That's a lot to compete with. Yeah. This whole list is just sad and makes me remember travelling. Those were the days. And how long is it going to be till we could even do that? We'll get back there.

We'll get to Australia or the islands maybe at least. And in the meantime, we can travel around New Zealand. Exactly. Support our local businesses. Yeah. And I did see some tourist operators on the news the other night saying they'll have to look at their pricing, which was code for New Zealand. Kiwis don't want to pay.

Kiwis aren't going to pay. I live here. I don't want to pay that. Do you know we live here? Like, yeah, we're not tourists. Like, we pay like a little bit cheaper. So I think they are going to look at that seriously, which is good because, yeah, we do need tourists. Like, we pay like a little bit cheaper. So I think they are going to look at that seriously, which is good because, yeah,

we do need to support all these local businesses that have no tourists at the moment. Fleshfauna Megan, the podcast, ZM. Blackout movement. This is why. Fat. This is why. Fat.

This is why. This is why. This is why. Fat. This is available in Woolworths in Australia, which would suggest... Imminent. Imminent to Countdown New Zealand. Why did they get everything first?

Australia. I know. We always see all these new Maltesers flavours or new chocolate flavours. The marble chocolate. Yeah, the marble chocolate came out this week, didn't it? Yeah. That was, they were testing that in Australia last year. It's rude.

I just feel like once we could get something first. Are we not sticking better? So Cherry Ripe, the polarising chocolate bar that you and I love. We love that, don't we? It's now going to be on a stick. So like a magnum. Yeah. Inside is cherry ice cream

with small pieces of coconut. Yum. And then dark old gold chocolate around the outside. Yeah, I'm here for this. I'm here for it.

So, boxes of four. In Australia, they cost $8.50. You could probably eat all four for pudding, eh? Like,

did you just think that? Were you like, I could eat all four? I was actually looking at how big each one is. 62 grams are served. You could probably eat all four for pudding, eh? Did you just think that? Were you like, I can eat all four? I was actually looking at how big each one is. 62 grams are served. Are they as big as a Magnum or a bit smaller? I think they're a bit smaller.

No, I think they're a little bit smaller, yeah. Because those crunchy ice creams, they're nice, but they're small. You could do four of those at once. But I don't think you're supposed to. Oh, you're not meant to at all. No. Now, that's interesting you mention that because mum

of course knows my love of cherry ripe because, you know, you have Christmas and I'll always eat the Turkish Delights and the cherry ripes. And as you say, very polarising. And the white chockeys. And the white chockeys. Yeah. Cherry ripe baked cheesecakes. That was from mum

at the supermarket. Now, she's normally a pack and save shopper, so that must have been a pack and save. They look like ice cream sandwich cheesecakes because it's got a top and a bottom as the dark chocolate, like. I know, because I'm not really a cheesecake fan. That wasn't a negative thing. That wasn't. So there's two in that.

Okay. Does that say your energy percentage, DI daily intake, 14%. Oh, yeah, that's not bad. Is that so they can say you should eat one now and one another day? But, like, technically they're like... Yeah, look, I don't pay attention to that. You're eating a cherry ripe cheesecake.

Yum. I'd give that a go, though. That looks really nice. It's good Vaughan's not here, because he absolutely hates the cherry ripe. Hates the cherry ripe. But the ice creams, yeah, they've started appearing in Australia. In Woolworths.

So you just have to assume they're coming to New Zealand. Keep an eye out. Yeah. I was going to say, oh, they've missed the boat because it's, you know, end of summer. So we're going into winter, but... Don't pretend like... New Zealanders can eat ice cream any day of the year. Ice cream only in the summer.

ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Microsoft, I was going to say McDonald's, I was going to say McDonald's. Microsoft, another corporation, have, well, what they're saying, they're bringing an end to the reply all... Email thing. Not the ability to reply, or you can still do that. You know, if somebody

accidentally replies all, you know, and you're not meant to, they reckon they've got a new thing that's going to fix this. Now, at the moment, it's just happening for large organisations and people that use like Exchange, which is what we use here. That's how we log on to our work email out of work, log on to the Microsoft Exchange. It is called Reply All Storm Protection, and it will automatically detect possible reply all screw-ups and essentially puts all recipients on a temporary timeout to keep them from spamming requests and replying.

I don't know how it works. How do they know if it's... Tech stuff, the future, magic. I don't know how it works, but... So, are they just going to put, like, all reply alls in a waiting room? Like, giving you a moment? Yeah, apparently it says here it's triggered if 10 reply all emails are sent out to a distribution list

of at least 5,000 people within an hour. So this is for big, big organizations that they're trying it with at the moment, but it could come down to be a thing if it works. All the reply alls that I see are purposeful and annoying. Yeah, but you know there are some of those people that reply all to an email and they didn't mean to? Yeah. And you're like, oh.

It's great though because it's awkward and I love it. Isn't it great? Yeah. But I've never been part of a juicy one where someone's replied all and it's been like, oh, you should have told everyone then. I've nearly done that thing where you forward the email that you've got from someone. So maybe there's a few people that need to be communicated with or they're in the chain. Yeah. And you go to forward the email, but you forget that someone down the chain has talked about that person.

And called them a dickhead. Yeah. And said, you know, oh, bloody, they're useless. Get them to do this. And you're like, I'll deal with it. And then you forward on someone else. And I've nearly done that. You didn't call them the dickhead, so it's all right.

No. Yeah. Or there might have been a case where I was talking about them further down the email, that kind of thing. I must have a guilty conscience or something because I'm so careful. I usually always delete the past emails. Yeah. And just give them what they need.

Sometimes you need the past emails to bring people up to speed with whatever you're dealing with. Well, I'm not that important. No. I've never had that big a chain of... No. But there have got to be some stories out there this morning. Oh, sure.

And this is what I want to know. Those juicy reply all stories. When someone's replied all and they shouldn't have, maybe they were talking about someone in the office. Because on our one, it's a curvy arrow or like a double curvy arrow.

Yeah. Very similar. And they're next to each other. Right beside each other. Yeah, it's an easy mistake to make. Yeah. So, I don't know, have you ever in your time

working in your office or wherever been involved in a juicy reply, or maybe you were the accidental reply all. Or maybe you received it and it was juicy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because, you know,

sometimes you get those emails and they've been recalled, and I'm like, okay, now I definitely want to know what this said. What was in it. But they're never exciting around here. No, they're not. So let's take some calls.

0800 DALS at M. You can text as well, 9696. What was your reply all story? Have you got a juicy reply all story? Yeah. I mean, I don't know how juicy it's going to get, but. Like people flirting with bosses. Oh yeah.

And it goes to the whole office. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Great. That's what I want. Yeah. Stuff like that.

Uh, news that Microsoft could be bringing an end to the reply all troubles that some of us have had when accidentally hitting reply all. It's supposed to be just for the last recipient. Yeah. It's called reply all storm protection. I don't know exactly how it works, but it figures out that you shouldn't have probably replied all to your big organisation. That's real smart, eh? Real smart.

And it's too late, though, for a lot of people, because... We've all been there, done that. And we have had some messages and calls in about your reply or whoopsies. Lily, what happened? Lily just dropped off, I believe. Ben, what happened? I replied to the whole company that a new procedure was BS.

It wasn't great. Here the boys have been sitting around, just arbitrary management decisions. Not exactly the thing we all want to hear. I mean, they're not there doing it. They don't know what we're doing. So I was the idiot that replied to all instead of

just calling my mate. Did you hear from the bosses? I definitely got some hairy eyeballs for the next week or two and a quiet word about, like, there's a forum for that.

Not the entire company. Brilliant. Well, at least I knew it was BS. True. Thanks, you call Ben. Someone texted and said a lady at work called Susan replied all to an email from another lady called Barb who was dating the boss, Gary.

I don't know if actually, well, the names are there now. In the email, Susan went on to say about how Barb only got her job because she was close with the boss. Right. Barb was not impressed and tried to get Gary to fire Susan. And this is a reply all. Oh, no. That's juicy.

It's juicy. That could be any workplace, though, really, with those names. Someone in the class sent an email to the class and thought they'd replaced... Replied and pressed. Pressed. Yep. Replied only to the one person.

Not all got told off for... I'm really struggling to read. Got told off... It's only your main read, got told off. It's only your main job, Megan. Yeah. So I'll paraphrase. A reply all went to the whole class explaining how much they liked a person in the class,

which is going to be, yeah, you're going to hear about that for a long time. Yeah. Somebody messaged in, bitched about a client and accidentally sent it to them. Reply all, but the client got it. Luckily, the relationship was salvageable. Somebody replied,

all calling school principal an idiot for not getting two class names right. That's the boss, obviously. So this is from a teacher. I feel like idiot's salvageable, though. Could have been worse. Yeah. Big boss hit reply on an email questioning

whether an employee was throwing a sickie. Wow. Has that happened here? Is that close to home? A girl in my uni replied all saying she wouldn't make her lab as her period was heavy. That was a reply all. Accidentally for everybody, not just for that one person.

Was it accidental? I don't know. It's out there now, isn't it? It's out there now. Dan, what happened? Good morning. Good morning. Was this you that hit reply all?

Yes, I did. Okay, and what happened? I used to work for an electrical wholesaler. Okay. And I just sold my car. And then I didn't... Don't blame us for that, Dan. That's on you.

It's your multitasking. Yeah, and we had a stock take on the weekend one day. So I went for a whole weekend. So I planned to go away with the family, so I didn't work on the Saturday. Yeah. Our area manager, can I say his name? No.

Absolutely not. No. Okay. At least I asked. Okay, you did. At least you did, yeah. We'll call him Fred. His name's not Fred, but we'll call him Fred.

Okay, Fred sounds good. Fred come in and he went off on me. He was swearing at me about not helping the other team and doing that. So I wrote all this information down and, you know, I wasn't very happy. Spoke to my wife about it. Yeah. A few months later, maybe probably six odd months later, he had been, because he harasses everybody and everybody at the company never liked him.

We had a lot of staff. And I saw an email come through from someone else that was leaving from him, making him leave. So he sent an email out with no names again and about what happened. So I actually replied to his email saying, hey, buddy, I know how you feel because it's happened to me as well. I wish you all the best in your future jobs and everything. And she had the email. 504 people it went to. I didn't realize that, but that was the whole company.

Oh, wow. And within two minutes, I had a phone call to my boss. And, yeah, I was called into the office, racked over the knuckles the area manager came in, went off at me again and yeah, so I don't work there anymore obviously. I was wondering where that was going. Okay, yeah

wow. The gym is opening. Although I got an email from my gym, my leads me. I was, we're not opening till Friday. I was like, excuse me? I've been eating a lot of biscuits. That's not what you said. You got irate.

I did get irate. I was like, all right, I'll wait till Friday then. So one extra day you're going to wait while they get their stuff ready. What else have you been doing? They're a very big establishment. I know. But I've been eating a lot, Megan. Well, we wanted to know what gyms would look like in Level 2,

starting from tomorrow. So Luke from Snap Fitness joins us. Good morning, Luke. Morning, Zing. How are we? Good, good. Now, Megan and I were talking about this before. This must be a headache for, I mean, I was just giving my gym

a bit of shit for opening on Friday, but it must be a headache because things like cross trainers and treadmills are right next to each other. Yeah, I mean, it's been a bit of a journey over the last, well, seven weeks now, isn't it, since we kind of put into level four. So, yeah, I mean, it has been a bit of a mission, but given the time, I think we've been able to prepare pretty well. Okay. of a mission, but given the time, I think we've been able to prepare pretty well.

And I know that across the 14 gyms in Auckland for Snap Fitness McCarthy Group that, you know, we've spent time with our managers, we've upskilling them and making sure that they understand, you know, the distancing of gear. You know, we've got signage everywhere regarding, like, spacing between equipment and where we can with, you know, even turned off equipment or, you know, spaced them out. So it has been a bit of a journey and a mission, but, look, I think from, you know, what the team and the managers have kind of responded to me, that we're all pretty excited to get back.

Yeah. And, you know, we know it's going to be different in a different environment, but, look, we've done as best we can to prepare and, yeah, we're pumped to get back into it. Now, look, I'll be honest, pre-COVID, I always took a towel to the gym. But I'm going to be honest, I wasn't really big on squirting gear after each use. I'll be honest, I wasn't one of those people.

I wasn't. I wasn't. And a lot of people aren't. But I think now, is that going to be different? Are there going to be a lot more squirty bottles to disinfect equipment? You got it. So basically, as soon as you walk into our gyms, you've got a hygiene station so you can hand sanitise. And you can basically go from there. Regarding the equipment, everything you've used, you will need to spray down prior and after the use.

Okay. And even PTs. PTs are going to be spraying down gear before their clients come in and after their clients use the gear. So, yeah, it's going to be one of those kind of mandatory things that we do. Just in the interim, I mean, we don't know what level one or when we get out of this may look like, but definitely, you know, better to be safe than sorry. So, yeah.

Totally. So have you had to take away a few, like, or space equipment a bit better? Or have you had to lose a few machines? Well, we just turned them off, because, I mean, our gyms, I suppose, they're a little bit smaller than your bigger box gyms, but we've done what we can, and, you know, across these, some of these, like you

said before, the cross trainers and treadmills, we've just got signage up, and with some, we can't space, we've just turned them off completely. What happens with personal training? So people can still see their personal trainer? Or is there just going to be like a distance between? Are they going to be allowed to do that thing where they just poke you back and say, just push that down a little bit?

Put your bum down. They won't be able to touch you anymore. So you're going to be like, nah, nah, come and get me. Now, the big one with PT, and this is kind of what we had a big chat with our managers with, they're going to have to kind of rethink how they do their business in a sense. So the biggest thing really is redesign their programs. There's not going to be any spotting.

So I know for a lot of the big and heavy lifters, probably like yourself, guys, you're going to have to go into more higher reps. Yeah, okay. But yeah, PTs want to keep their distance. That's actually the best news ever, Luke. Those annoying guys won't come up and say, can you spot me, bruh?

I'm like, I'm not going to be able to help this weight fall on your head, but okay, sure. I can't get it on you. Yeah, there might not be any big guys coming back, but no, it's going to be a different environment for PTs. And look, I've got confidence that our PTs are thinking creatively regarding what they can and can't do. Again, they won't be able to be within like a one metre radius anyway.

Right. So a lot of it will be that kind of verbal cueing from the outside and just making sure that their programs are different. Again, there's higher reps and that their clients understand the way it's going to be going. So, yeah. Now, asking for a friend, Luke,

if you put on a few kgs over these seven weeks by eating a lot of biscuits and carbs, how can you quickly lose those in like a week? Oh, in one week? Do you want the legal answer? Yeah, it's hard work, isn't it? Is that the answer, Luke? It is, isn't it? Diet and exercise.

I need to ask Adele. Yeah, I think the big one regarding getting back into it, because I know a lot of people including myself, you know, we've been away from our normal habits and routines regarding exercise so the big thing is just going to be getting back into training smarter and I know like, that to me is just having a plan of action.

And I know for the benefits of that is you're limiting your time in the gym. A lot of people that have no plan, they'll go into the gym, they're on their phones, they're kind of mucking around and they don't really have an idea. And that to me, you're spending a lot of time, a lot of wasted time. And when you're in a such a situation you don't really want to be in there for too long anyway yeah um so having a good plan and just communicating with your pt or your manager uh regarding that and just reduce the intensity for the first week or month because um the the big thing around around that oh 100 and we don't want

to you know load up the medical centers with people that are listening to here all that kind of stuff so yeah just go easy first week, first month. And as I said before, I'd suggest going higher reps and more kind of that high-intensity training as opposed to the heavy lifting training. Nice. Well, I never thought I'd say this, but I'm really looking forward to getting back in there.

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Polly, Molly, today is the screen time edition. Everyone's had a lot of screen time. Yeah. Over lockdown. I think the first week in lockdown, or that first week we weren't at work, and I got that little thing after a week, and it came up and said, your screen time's gone up. I was like, ugh.

How do I turn that off? Because I don't like the judgment every week. I think you can turn it off. Although when it says it's gone down, I'm like, I've done well this week. Yeah. It's very judgmental. So this is the Screen Time Edition.

Screen Time Edition. We asked a whole lot of questions about your phone etiquette. So first up, do you use, what is your most used app? Yep. Instagram. Hands down. Really? Hands. Instagram. Hands down. Really, hands down Instagram. Hands down Instagram.

Instagram. Do you use your phone on the toilet? Yes, I do. I've just started to. Because. Why have you just started? No, because before lockdown, I was like in and out because I was busy. Yep.

But then I had nothing to do so you're just like oh well I'll go on my phone on TikTok yeah right on the toilet but see TikTok's a bad one on the toilet

because you go down a TikTok hole and then it's like half an hour yeah yeah and you're like I probably should wipe now but then also

it's really confronting half an hour on the toilet and you get out and nothing's changed. You're like, I didn't miss anything. Yeah. Or do anything. Yeah.

So 82% of people said guilty using their phone on the toilet. But when's the last time you antibacterial wiped your phone? I mean, you'll wash your hands after the toilet, won't you? But then you touch your phone again. Well, it's not like I can wash my... You can wipe it with an anti... That's true. Just think about that next time you're on the toilet for half an hour.

Are you trying to cut back on your screen time? 55% of people said yes. I thought it would be more than that, but 45% are like, nah, don't care. Do you use apps your partner doesn't know about? 91% of people said no, but that means 9% of people have got apps that their partner don't know about. Now I need to know what those apps are. Surely it's a dating app. Surely it's like Tinder.

Well, I was thinking more like something like a food ordering app. Why would your partner not to know about that? Or a game. Like your partner's sick of you playing games, so you secretly have a game app. But like, back to the food ordering. Like if someone turns up with Uber Eats or something, or like, your partner's going to know. True. Yeah, true.

Okay, so they probably are dating apps. You go straight to eating. Yeah, I went straight to eating. You went straight to cheating. Yeah. true. Okay, so they probably are dating apps. You go straight to eating. Yeah, I went straight to eating. You went straight to cheating. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever spent money in a gaming app? 64% said no.

I really don't like it when I'm in the minority of these. What was that one you got into, the Kardashian one, eh? I only spent a little bit of money. How much was a little bit? Oh, $30? Yeah, right. Could have been worse. Because I don't get into it. Like, I don't a little bit? Oh, $30? Yeah, right. Could have been worse. Because I don't get into, like, I don't know,

I just don't get into games on my phone. But when I have, and then they ask you to pay, I'm like, nah, delete. There's the games that get me the ones where you have to, like, wait to get more credits. Yeah, that's how they get you. Because then it's like, oh, you can buy some right now. And you're like, okay.

It's only $6. And then another $12. And then $1,400 later, you're like, okay. It's only $6. And then another $12. And then $1,400 later, you've got a problem. And no money. Yeah. Which dating app do you prefer, Tinder or Bumble? Yeah. 63% of people prefer Tinder.

Right. I'd love to know the stats of how many people are on what app for New Zealand at any time. Because surely that's just a numbers thing. Like more people would be on Tinder, wouldn't they? Yeah. Because would girls prefer Bumble? Well, yeah, because then they have to make the first chat, don't they? Yeah.

Okay. So you maybe, I don't know. It's a bit of both there. But guys, yeah, yeah. What is your daily screen time? It is between, I would say it's about seven hours. It's between five and eight hours. We had a little scrolly, slidey.

Slidey option, yeah. It's about seven hours, it looks like. Seven hours. I wonder if that's gone up. What's yours? Because I only got my little notification yesterday, so I know what mine is. That actually makes me quite proud of mine.

I don't know how to quickly find out. So say that most people are answering about 7 hours as their daily screen time. Oh my average is 5 hours 52. Up 47% from last week. Oh no. Confronting. Oh no. Mine is 2 and a half hours.

Wow. Is that? Yeah. Yeah. But then you do a lot of extra Wow. Is that? Yeah. Yeah. But then you, yeah, you do a lot of extra work. You go to the cafe, don't you? Oh, I was going to say, where are you going with this? But you. I had a compliment. It was a compliment.

Yeah, you're busy. Thank you. I'm a busy person. Yeah, sure. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan's Fridge Bingo.

The Celebrity Edition. This is the Celebrity Edition and we welcome our mates, Brie and Clint from the Afternoon Show. Yeah, good morning. I said afternoon and then I was like, wait. Is it morning? Is it afternoon? G'day, guys. Hi, guys.

I hope you don't mind being the bottom of the celebrity barrel. Hey, we're used to it. I heard you say you were scraping the bottom before. That's disrespectful. Nah, pretty accurate, in my opinion. Yeah, you're still in the barrel. So, you know, that's a good thing. You just... I'll take it.

Yeah, take it. It's more of an indictment on your celebrity Polling power than our status really Yeah I was going to say You just can't get them We cast the net wide Now This is going to be interesting because you've got

Brie your fridge will be a flatting fridge Up against Clint's Little family fridge won't it? Yeah, that's right. My fridge has been packed to the absolute bloody brim this whole lockdown. So I'm confident. But it must be bourbon mixes, wouldn't it? Yeah.

Mostly. Mostly, yeah. All right. Well, I tell you what, Brie, you can buzz in with ding and Clint, you can buzz in with dong. It's a first to three. Here we go. Camembert cheese. Ooh. It's a dead flat three. Dong? Dong.

We've got a dong from Clint. You've got Camembert. Yeah, I'm just going to check the expiry date on it. Or the date. 2020. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. I feel like this should have been my category.

I've got moldy cream cheese. Does that count? Just scrape that off. It'll be all right. We've got moldy cream cheese. Does that count? Just scrape that off. We've got a whole cheese section. Guys, there's all sorts in here. Oh, so's about it. This is why you're in the celebrity barrel. You've got lots of cheeses.

I'm letting down the Brie community at the moment. Would we have accepted Brie? Oh, shit. My fridge is bloody beefing now. Hold on. Brie, Tui's on the phone. Please don't swear. Oh, sorry.

All right. One now to plant. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Honey. Really? Actually, no, I cancelled my dong. No, the honey is in the pantry.

See, this is what I was going to argue. I was like, I keep my honey in the pantry. Yeah. Because obviously I live with multiple people. There's some savages who put honey in the pantry. Yeah. Because obviously I live with multiple people. There's some savages who put honey in the fridge here. Well, in this case, it's worked in your favour. They've got your point, Bree. Oh, about time it paid off.

One all. Oh! Oh! Hey! Do either of you have pickled ginger? I do. I do. What?

I've got sushi ginger. Does that count? It's in a bag. That's pickled ginger. Yes. Do we have pickled ginger? Oh, da-dong. Yeah, we've got the pickled ginger. Wait, are you...

What a load of... Is minced ginger the same? No. Because I've got that ginger-minced stuff. It's the pink. We're talking pink stuff. The sushi stuff. Yeah, we do have...

I'm looking at the minced ginger. Oh, no, just minced ginger. Oh, no, that doesn't count. We're going to take away your dong. Yes! So it's 2-1. Not my dong. It's 2-1 to Bree.

If you get this one next, Bree, you have won. Oh, my gosh. Okay. I feel like I'm at the pokies. Oh. Bree. Blue top milk. Yes, ding. Dong. Dong. Oh. Ding it. Blue top milk. Yes, ding.

Dong. Oh. Ding and a dong. Brie takes it out. I thought it was going to be too basic for you two. I thought you might have had some, like, you know, almond milk or something, Brie, some soy. Oh, no, we've got all kinds of milk, including off. Including off.

You both have a lot of off fridge items. I think you need to clear out. You need to clean out. I want a bottle of wine to hear from our wedding in 2018. Oh, good lord. That's concerning. Yeah, it is. Alright, thanks for playing, guys. Brie,

congratulations. The winner of French Bingo. What an achievement. ZM's Fletch Warner Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Just quickly, there has been an annunciation issue in SU. I was just moments ago, you may have heard me, give out the details for the Daddy Bloomfield Extravaganza Bonanza where we have up for grabs $500 petrol today.

You just needed to text daddy to 9696. People are texting. Executive intern Anya, you've noticed this. Several messages in this morning to Danny. Yes. Not daddy. A lot of Danny's coming through. It's not Danny Bloomfield.

Why would we call Ashley Bloomfield Danny? We're calling him daddy. Danny Bloomfield. You need to enunciate it more. Give us a good daddy, please him Daddy. Danny Bloomfield. You need to enunciate it more. Give us a good Daddy, please. Daddy. Text Daddy. No, you have to say the D's in there. Text Daddy.

Text Daddy. Daddy. How am I not saying Daddy? Daddy. Okay, text Daddy to 9696. Daddy. Now, from now on, every time I read out this bloody thing, I'm going to say96. Daddy. Now, from now on, every time I read out this bloody thing, I'm going to say daddy.

Text daddy to 9696 because obviously people are just not getting it. Well, I mean, there was a lot of texts and just one person mispronouncing it. A lot. Daddy. Text daddy to 9696. Okay.

Now that we're over there, this is not an am I a bad person? This is just a predicament that someone has emailed through to us. Anonymously. Megan, but before we went on air, Megan's like, oh my God, her name is right there. She doesn't want me to say it,

but how am I accidentally not going to say it? We'd had a couple of, we'd emailed back and forth because I've got an update. But yeah, her name's written in front of me a few times, but wiped it from my memory. Not going to say it. Okay. Hello. I am in a situation

and I need your help. Shut up. I really thought you were about to tell me. I said it in my head. I'm in a situation situation I need your help. About a month before the lockdown, I started dating this guy who was in our friend

group. So I kind of knew him for nearly a year, although we were never really close friends. Before the lockdown, he asked me to move in with him during this time as we both lived alone. Lockdown went really well. Barely had any disagreements and we survived it well, well However six weeks or so on

And I'm still here We This is when we're going to level two I mentioned We'd have to figure out a moving date To which he replied Ha whatever And then changed the subject

Oh okay so he's liking living with Yeah Okay It's awkward because I'm still paying for my bills For my apartment and still only living out of a suitcase here. We've not had the what are we talk so our relationship isn't official either.

I would be comfortable moving in with him but also happy to go back to mine if that's what he wants. We both seem to avoid the conversation so how do I bring it up without ruining what we've got? Now this was going into level three. I have since had correspondence and an update. She says, almost said the name.

I did say the other night that we needed to have a discussion about my living situation and he didn't respond and was quiet the whole night. So now I'm out of ideas. Does that mean he wants her to stay? Or he doesn't want to have the awkward conversation about the other way either. Oh yeah, this is confusing. Or does he want her to move out?

Because if you wanted her to stay, wouldn't it be an easy conversation to just be like, no, I'm loving it. Do you want to like... Why does he always, why is he avoiding this? I don't know.

But they're pretty much living together. So they've gone from just casually dating to like now living together. But have they got a label on this? No. Well, they're not even boyfriend living together. But have they got a label on this? No. Not even boyfriend, girlfriend. But she wants a, I think she wants a label and she wants an official,

okay, we should move in together. And every time she brings it up, he's like. Shuts down. Where she get snacks. Or changes the subject. We need guys, because I don't speak male very fluently. Okay. There's not a lot very fluently. Okay. There's not a lot of words involved.

Yeah. What does that mean? Is that a good sign or is that a bad sign? Yeah, so, I mean, that's why she's reached out to us. Yeah. And we're just like, oh, what? I don't know. What do you think?

Where does she go to from here? Yeah, and maybe you've been in this situation where you've been in this awkward kind of what's happening here. And I don't think lockdown helped. It's like a lockdown limbo that she's found herself in. So she can easily go back to her place. She can, yeah. She's still got her place and she's paying for it.

But she's been living there and it's been going really well. He sounds too relaxed about this. Just move in and bring all your stuff over. He probably still won't say anything. How are the flatmates going to be with that? They'll find other flatmates. Yeah. But then you don't want to move in and just do it

if you find out that he's actually not keen for it. I don't know. He needs to actually speak. Like talk. Yeah. Okay, right. I would love to know if anyone's been in this same sort of limbo or if there's guys who can shed some light on what he's maybe thinking.

Maybe the guys could translate for you. Yeah, that'd be great. What's happening? An email that we've received in there. Someone needs some help. They're in a situation. So they were casually dating a guy in their friend group. When lockdown happened, they both lived alone,

so they decided to do lockdown together. It's been six or seven weeks, and it's been great. No arguments. Now she doesn't know what they are. She doesn't know if they're boyfriend, girlfriend. She doesn't know if he wants her to move out. There's very little communication. So she's still paying for her own flat, but living with him still.

And every time she brings it up, he goes quiet. He goes quiet. Kayla, what do we think? Hello. Hello. I'm on the radio. Oh, welcome. Welcome.

Thanks. Well, in my opinion, so I'm fluent in if you see you know what boys. Okay. Well, we call them duck boys. You're fluent in duck boy. Yeah, duck boys. I reckon he just doesn't want to be the one to say it because he doesn't want the decision to be on him. So if anything goes wrong, it's like, oh, well, you decided to move in.

You know, it's your fault. And, yeah, and, like, he just wants her at his disposal sort of thing. So do you think he's just, he's not that into it? It's been good for lockdown, but options are open for him. Yeah, I think he doesn't, I think he's maybe a bit of a commitment type, so he doesn't really know how to commit. So if she stays, she stays,

but he doesn't want to be the one to make the decision that she stays. But what if he's into it, but he's just not good at expressing his feelings, good or bad? Well then, you know, a boy wants what he wants, so she can move out, and if he really wants her back,

then he can communicate that out. That's true. A boy wants what he wants. That's brilliant. Yeah. Kayla's definitely had some experience. Yeah. Well, my mum taught me well.

Brilliant, Kayla. That was great. Great first time on the radio, too. You did well. A plus, A plus. We're joined now by Tim. Tim, good morning. What is your analysis of the situation?

Good morning, guys. Good morning. Yeah, well, I think it's a bit of, well, I don't know, for me personally, I go through these kind of feelings as well with just being too shy to express yourself. I think maybe if he wanted her gone, he would be acting a bit distanced to her

and, you know, just not really that into it. From what she's saying, that they're getting along quite well. Maybe they just need to rip the band-aid off, you know, and express emotionally where they are with each other. So you have... What?

That's so cute. How does she do that, though? Does she just sit him down and force him to speak? Yeah. Yeah, well, I guess that's what you've got to do. You've got to spoon-feed them a bit. Yeah. Yeah, and I guess maybe he just needs to sit him down and just say, we've been going so well so far because they moved in quite fresh

and the relationship's developed from there. So, you know, it's not anything positive, really. It just seems like he's just too afraid of scaring her off, maybe. Yeah, I like where Tim's at because I don't want to assume that his, like, not talking is just a negative thing. He might just not be very good at expressing himself. If it was bad vibes, she would have picked up bad vibes by now, you know, because if the quarantine went so well,

then obviously it can lead to a lot from here. But I feel you, Megan and Tim are in the minority here because most people are labelling this guy a duck boy. Oh, I think. Yeah, if the text machine is anything to go by. But then we've probably got a lot of hurt people texting in. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But you never know.

It could just be anxiety on his part. Maybe he's just too shy. But, yeah, end of the day, they just got to rip the Band-Aid off. And one of them needs to kick the conversation off, I guess. Okay, brilliant, Tim. All right, thanks for your call, mate. So the texts say she needs to move out, take stock, and then decide. Right.

That's quite – I agree. Because if she moves out, then he – if he's into it, he'll come back. You know, it's almost forcing, then if he's into it, he'll come back. It's almost forcing his hand if he's into it. I feel like he loves her company and likes her there, however, doesn't actually want to make any commitments. That came from someone who said, don't call me, I'm not good with words either. But again, I think moving out would be a good move.

Yeah. And you're not saying, see you later, I'm never seeing you again. You're just moving out. Yeah. Just to give him a few days to think about things. Yeah, totally. She should find someone who can communicate better, someone said. Another one, move back to your place, girl.

You're paying rent there. He sounds like he just wanted you during lockdown so you can have some fun. And now he's playing dumb. That's how I see it. Yeah. Yeah. There's how I see it. Yeah. Yep. There's two cams on this one. Buy him some

his favourite food. Yep. Get his belly full. Make him happy and then hit him with the deep combo when he's in a good mood. Yeah, right. Okay. Force him to chat to you. Is that going to work?

I don't know. Like, I don't know. Move out and see if he chases you. Either way, I'm going to need an update on this. I'll get an update. So you've been getting a couple of updates already. Yeah. Haven't you?

So let's keep you posted on that. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day is that in 2014, McDonald's invented bubblegum flavoured broccoli. Did you know this?

No. How has this not been a fact of the day already? I know, right? No. No. So in 2014, because they're trying to bring healthier food options for kids, but kids often don't like broccoli. So they were like, what if we had the nutrition of broccoli,

but they make it taste like bubblegum? And this could be an option for Happy Meals. I am all for this. I was keen to try it too. Now the reason we don't know about it is because they were doing food testing. They managed to produce the broccoli and make it taste like

bubblegum. Yep. They've been doing... Broccoli, correct me if I'm wrong, but broccoli, we made that, didn't we? We engineered it to be what it is. Oh, I didn't know that. Did it used to look more like broccolini and then... I don't know. Did we make more fluffy bits or...

I'm out of broccoli facts, Megan. I need follow-up questions. So, yeah, they were looking to create healthier options, and they actually made it. Right. But when it got to the testing part of the experiment, they got kids in to try the broccoli. Yeah.

And while it did taste like bubble gum, the kids weren't into it because it was too confusing. Because it shouldn't taste nice because it's a vegetable and they'd know what broccoli tastes like, but then it was bubblegum. It would be very confusing. Yeah, it confused them and then they decided that the kids weren't into it enough for it to happen, so they scrapped the idea. So that's why you've never actually seen bubblegum flavoured

broccoli. But I would have been totally down to try it. Can't you get like a purple broccoli? Purple carrots. And purple cabbage. Yeah, how the... So your broccoli was cultivated in the

Northern Mediterranean starting in the 6th century. And it was breeded. Breed? It was resulted from breeding of cultivated brassica crops. So broccoli didn't exist. We made it out of something else. What did they make it have babies with? So was it cauliflower and something green and fluffy?

Cabbage. I don't know. Anyway. Wow, interesting. Okay, good sub fact. So today's fact of the day is that in 2014, McDonald's tried to make a bubblegum flavoured broccoli. Fact of the day, dayughan and Megan, the podcast.

People have been doing a deep dive on America's Next Top Model. They've been trawling through all of the episodes. And it's fair to say it hasn't aged well. In fact, it probably shouldn't say it hasn't aged well. In fact, it probably shouldn't have happened in the first place. I don't know. I heard Ricky Gervais

talk about this the other day in a podcast about how we've got this obsession with like, it's almost like a sport like diving back into, you know,

people's tweets from like 10 years ago or things from, like, what's the cut off? I'm not sure. It was a different topic. You're right.'s the cutoff? I'm not sure. It was a different time. You're right.

You are right. And I'm not excusing behavior like racism because there's never been a time, you know, when that's okay. But going back and finding things that nowadays you wouldn't get away with, well, what's the point? What does it serve? Because, yeah, I think we're all learning and we're all growing. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. There wasn't anyone calling this out at the time, so that means that everyone believed that it was okay maybe. However, one of the clips that has garnered a lot of attention is from season six. This was back in 2006. Tyra and the other judges were pressuring, and I remember this, Danielle Evans,

to get the gap in her teeth, in her front teeth, closed by the dentist. So, Danielle, you went to the dentist, but you refused to have your gap closed. Do you really think you can have a cover girl contract with a gap in your mouth? Yeah, why not? This is all people see.

It's easy to be a beautiful cover girl. It's not marketable. Yeah, just a little bit is okay, but I don't want it completely closing. Well, I guess she just left the gap wide open

for another girl, baby. And then they all have a wee chuckle. It's so ruthless to watch because she's just standing there in front of the judges

and she's basically told like, Oh, what you have naturally, do you really think anyone's going to want you on the cover of a magazine? Well, that would absolutely not fly now. And to her credit, I think she got it closed like a little bit, but that was her signature and she wanted to keep it.

Yeah. She's spoken out about that. But that's not the only clip that people have gone on about. There is a few that have resurfaced. So in season four, one girl had to pose in a grave shortly after she found out that her friend had passed away. And you can imagine the producers behind the scenes thinking,

well, this is great because if we make her do this, she'll cry. Her friends just died. She literally said, please don't do this. I don't need to deal with death right now. And the next day she did it.

In a grave posing. She didn't want to be eliminated. Yeah, wow. In season eight, someone had to pose as a corpse the week after her friend died. In cycle six, season six, when Tyra ridiculed Danielle,

oh, that's what we just did for the gap tooth. In cycles 15, Tyra had did for the gap tooth in Cycles 15. Tyra had Chelsea widen the gap between her teeth. Because she was like, it's a feature. So from season 7 to 19. From season 6 to 15. The gap tooth was back. Close it. Now widen it.

Wow. Niall, anyone who watched that show will remember Niall. He was the deaf contestant in Cycle 22. He had to pose in the dark, which left him unable to sign or communicate with the photographer. I feel like they took, looking back now, I feel like they took these vulnerabilities and made... Megan, you're telling me that a reality show would exploit...

They wouldn't do that, would they? Exploit the weaknesses of the models... Absolutely not. ...to create some drama and... Absolutely not. She's absolutely been called out, though. We just didn't see it at the time. And so Tyra's commented and said,

been seeing the post about the insensitivity of some of the past ANTM moments, and I agree with you. Looking back, those were some really off choices. I appreciate your honest feedback and I'm sending you so much love and virtual hugs. Yeah. Well, at least she's admitted to it, you know,

and said, you know, they are off choices. We're all learning and we're all growing. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. ZM. And tomorrow, or tonight at 11.59pm, we turn over to level two. And so much excitement. We've still got to obviously maintain social distancing. A lot of businesses have to have a lot of special protocols in place and protections.

But for the majority of us, it means we can go back to the gym. We can get a trim. We can do all these things. Yeah. And there is a lot of places that are being absolutely inundated with appointments. And one of them is Off and On. And Nikki joins us from Off and On.

Hello, Nikki. Hey, guys. How are we going? I mean, darling, how are we going? We're good. We're good. Have you slept much? Because you must have been super busy.

I think we're dreaming of Brazilians and catcots and tweezers. For those that don't know, you guys do all kinds of stuff. You do the laser. We've all gone there, Vaughn and I, Megan. Yeah. Without going into details there, Nikki, but yep. You haven't been accosted with Fletcher Vaughan's butthole, though, have you, Nikki?

No, I haven't opened Pandora's box yet, so we're being, you know, kind of. Good, it's lucky. Kind of at the same social distance from that one. Good. Right. Now, so after seven weeks of, you know, no lasering, no waxing, you're expecting to see some

things, I bet. And, you know, the good thing is just like chefs can't wait to open their restaurants to, you know, deliver great food to people, we just can't wait to open the doors and get those wax pots going and the laser machines pew-pew-pewing. So, we've seen a lot of it all before. wait to open the doors and get those wax pots going and the laser machines pew, pew, pewing.

So we've seen a lot of it all before. So I guess the message for everybody is don't panic. There is nothing that scares us. This is what we love to do. Is it a little bit satisfying getting like, you know, like a, I'm trying to think of a nice way to put it, you know, making it go from one extreme to the other, shall we say? Immensely, like that instant gratification, like doing your garden, you know, when you go and mow the lawn, you know what it's like when you get those stripes, like perfect. Yeah.

Like a sports field. Yeah, absolutely. So it's instant gratification for us and for people as well. So how many appointments have you guys received since being notified that we're going to come out of Level 3? Like, it's out of this world. So it's like we're calling it the tsunami, the tsunami of Brazilians and Braz.

But we've probably got about 15,000 active customers that would have come over that sort of eight-week period that we've been shut down. So we're trying to reschedule them as a first priority. So we're literally drowning in emails and phone calls. And I guess, you know, we'd love to say to people, just please be patient with us. And, you know, as much as you might want to get your Brazilian done now,

better to wait a week than to risk doing a bit of a DIY urgent job at home. So hang in there, hang in there. Because then you'll have to be going to the doctor rather than off and on. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. There's just certain things you shouldn't try at home. That's a good message though, I think,

not just for you guys, but for everyone who's trying to make appointments and any kind of like hairdressers, anywhere that you really need to get to, just have a bit of patience. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, because there will be, as much as there's instant gratification, there can also be instant regret when we try to take things into our own hands.

So, yeah, just hang in there. So I've seen a lot of hairdressers saying they're going to open at midnight. You're not tempted to open up the waxing at midnight? Yeah, I probably, you know, I don't know if anything good comes from trying to wax somebody at midnight. I've not, yeah, probably not. Let's just say natural light's probably a little bit more our friend. And is there, do people need to do a bit of a...

A weed wax before the lawnmower. Yeah. Cool. So, like, there's three sorts of things. With your brows, bring your brows. Oh, natural. You know, the blank of the canvas is better, so don't worry about your brows.

Okay. If it comes to laser, the great thing is that we ask that you shave before your appointment. So, for laser, you know, the prep's really, really easy. Just shave that 24 hours beforehand. Now for waxing, don't try and take matters into your hands too much. We need about one to two centimetres to work with.

Any more, any less creates breakage and also hurts way more. So you can have a quick trim. Yeah, so a bit more leverage means that the wax pulls a little bit harder and then you get a little bit more pain, but also will be prone to snapping. So if you've taken matters into your own hands during lockdown, again, better to wait

to get that little bit of extra growth so you get a cleaner finish as well. I'm kind of wishing we talked to Nikki after you'd had a day off just to see what you'd got. If you were as perky. By the way, I've literally got a tray of V in the back just about to go and drop off to the girls. But, yeah, absolutely, give us a call.

We'll be all, you know, and the other great thing is that, you know, we've got amazing protocols in place, you know, all hairdressers and beauty salons, we will be wearing PPE. So, you know, on top of our usually incredibly stringent hygiene protocols, you know that you're coming into a really safe place. You can expect masks, gloves, visors or goggles. So, you know, we're going to be, you know, really, really safe when you come to see us. Just don't bring your children.

Don't bring your dog. Don't, you know, try and minimize, you know, the number of people in store. People bring their dog to get their butthole lasered. I bet. I bet. I've never done that for the record. She's not directing that at me. Brilliant.

Nikki from Off and On, thank you so much for talking to us this morning. And good luck with the move to level two. All the best. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. If you enjoyed this podcast, why not give ZM's Bree and Clint a listen too? level two. All the best.