ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 14th September 2020

Episode Date: September 13, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, welcome to the Fletch Morton and Megan podcast. It's thanks to McCafe Coffee for great tasting barista made coffee on the go. Was that your tummy? Yeah, I just had an apple. Just had a little rumble. You've eaten a whole bag of fruit. Hungry rumble or poo yourself rumble? I think it's a hungry, it's a hungry, ready for some... Is it? After that whole bag of fruit? I haven't eaten the whole bag. I've still got a couple of mandies. Oh, my God. I got a lecture the other day from the bloody dentist. He's like, do you eat a lot of citrus fruit?
Starting point is 00:00:29 I was like, yeah. What constitutes a lot? Like eight bags a day? Yeah. I'm just like, oh, God. There's always a bloody lecture from you people, isn't there? I never thought about that. You consume a lot of citrus.
Starting point is 00:00:42 I know. And I was like, oh, God, here we go. Another thing I can't do, nanny state. It's unbelievable. Well, you've obviously listened with your bag of citrus. My wife, just being in the dentist, my wife got the same talk you got about scrubbing too hard and receding the gums. Yeah. She's never had a filling.
Starting point is 00:00:58 How lucky is that? But she said, oh, apparently I scrubbed too hard. And I was like, receding gums? And she's like, how did you know? I said, well, Fletch got the same chat. Yeah, I got the same chat So he My dentist
Starting point is 00:01:06 What did he call The electric toothbrushes He's like I call them Bouts and Like yeah It was like A word like that
Starting point is 00:01:13 He said I call them like Axes or grinders Or something Don't they say The dentist You're only supposed To use a soft bristle
Starting point is 00:01:19 Yeah that's for Milk tooth babies I don't think You can get a soft bristle For an electric toothbrush. They only come in one. Oh, can you? Nah.
Starting point is 00:01:29 So I have got a soft toothbrush now, but then I'm like, sometimes I do an electric toothbrush, but I'm just really careful not to do too far down the teeth. You brush your teeth like you vacuum. Aggressively. On full power. Aggressively, full power, I know. That's how I've always brushed my teeth.
Starting point is 00:01:46 It's quite hard. Because that's what I do. You've got to clean them, right? But he's like, no, soft. I have to brush them really soft at the moment because I've got swollen as gums. Whose fault is that? From being Lorenz's.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Lorenz's. Lorenz's little shit. Yeah, like majorly swollen. So count yourself lucky Right he's already like Commanding photo shoots from the womb She's not showing enough gum bitch Swallow them less teeth more gum
Starting point is 00:02:16 My god what am I dealing with here It's a good dental chat It's a hot dental chat I actually saw a dentist who I know Drinking a Powerade on Instagram and I said does it sugar free? The dental council know
Starting point is 00:02:31 and she said no I'm very hungover I was like amazing I think if you just gargle some water afterwards or have a brush you're fine right? I don't think so. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Megan.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Good morning. Good morning, sir. Good morning, ma'am. Morning. Good morning, everyone. I'm here today to tell you a little bit about Encyclopedias A collection of books If you'd like to purchase them Each book corresponds to a letter Are you on one of those moons today? I feel like it's one of those days Except for M because there's so many words starting with M
Starting point is 00:03:17 We've had to split that into two volumes It's a payment scheme Like migraine Which is what you give me That wasn't that long ago. People going door to door selling encyclopedias. Yeah. It was a while ago.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I mean, it wasn't like two weeks ago, but, you know, in the scheme of things, that sounds like it happened in the 1800s. Yeah. Somebody think about getting the old grey matter going. First thing on a Monday. The top six is coming up. Yeah, it's RIP to Auckland's last United video. Well, play it one more time now.
Starting point is 00:03:53 No, Civic Video. How's that Civic Video going? It's one of the ones that ended in video. It's not one of the ones that started in video. That was your video easy. It's still been hanging on. Is this the country's last one? It was that started in video. That was your video easy. It's still been hanging on. Is this the country's last one? It was United Video.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Whoa, play it one more time now. Don't know. But I've got the top six deals you could get from a closing down sale at United Video. Great. Because you know when they close down, they sell everything. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and some bargains to be had. God, I'd love a Mankey DVD that someone's had at their home.
Starting point is 00:04:26 You betcha. To play in my non-existant... Non-DVD player. I don't even have a... Oh, does PlayStation 4... PlayStation 4 has one, eh? Yeah. I don't know if the PS5's going to bother, though.
Starting point is 00:04:37 No, but you can still buy games, or will they just assume that everybody's downloading games? Um, oh, I mean, mostly download, right? Because even my laptop... Only the regular PS5 will be able to play discs, as opposed to its slimmer digital counterpart. The PS5 does have a disc drive for games,
Starting point is 00:04:55 4K Blu-ray and DVDs. There you go. Oh. Well, grab yourself a bargain at the closing down sale. Yeah, that's the top six. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast. ZM. We talked about, was it last bargain at the closing down sale. Yeah, that's the top six. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. We talked about, was it last week or the week before, a Hamilton mother failed her driver's license, her full driver's license before it even started
Starting point is 00:05:16 because the tester said this car is filthy and COVID. And she was like, beg your pardon? Yeah, they had a photo on the news story and it didn't look, like there was no rubbish on the passenger seat foot area. It just looked like it needed a bit of a vacuum. Yeah, but even then, like, nothing, I've been in worse Ubers. Like, it was fine. Oh, I hope you didn't give that Uber a five.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I give everyone a five star. Do you? Yeah. Okay. Just doing their job. She's not an Uber. She's just someone trying to get her license. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:47 They failed her because there was a rigmarole, and she actually messaged the show after we talked about it. I'd love to know when the reset happens if they pass. Right. But it turns out that that VTNZ Frankton, because when we talked about it, people messaged us and go, oh, there are a real bunch of rascals down there.
Starting point is 00:06:03 This is in Hamilton. Yeah. Yeah. There are an real bunch of rascals down there. This is in Hamilton. Yeah. Yeah. There are an absolute bunch of scallywags. They have a terrible pass rate of people who are passing. Two-thirds fail when they sit their license. When you compare that to other ones around the area, Morrinsville gets a mention.
Starting point is 00:06:24 And it's not for a meth crime or power related or the prime minister. Yeah. Apparently, AA in Morrinsville has a 61% pass rate. Not a 61% fail rate. Oh, right. 66% fail rate. Most of the pass rates were the other way around, weren't they? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Majority passed. Yeah, right. But this place, it was a solid majority. They failed. So what? Are they, is there an incentive for them to fail people? I don't know. Or is there just an arsehole working there
Starting point is 00:06:55 that fails everybody? Very probably that might be the situation. Right. I don't know. Because I don't know what happens with the fees. Like if you pay, I don't know what it is currently. If you pay more the first time and then a reset's cheaper, I don't know. Because I don't know what happens with the fees. Like if you pay, I don't know what it is currently. If you pay more the first time and then a reset's cheaper, I don't know who gets that money.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I don't know if there's... But you look at this list, it's like there's what, 30, 40 places on here from all around the Waikato, Bay of Plenty. Yeah. And most of the pass rate's 60 to 70%. But it's the other way around. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Correct. At this particular place. So why would you go there? Yeah. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I'd go anywhere else to sit my license.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Yeah. There was one situation where a father and the son was sitting the test. Yep. And the father was in the backseat of the car. Are you allowed to do that? I don't know. I don't think so. No.
Starting point is 00:07:44 It would be nerve wracking enough to have the tester in there. Oh? I don't know. It would be nerve-wracking enough to have the tester in there. Oh, I wouldn't tell my mum or my wife. Because you'd just hear your mum like, oh, oh, that noise, oh. And they'd grab the handle and you'd hear the handle going creak as it's been gripped harder and harder. And he said, yeah, he did not agree with the decision. They only found out when they got back to the testing station, as it's been gripped harder and harder. And he said, yeah, he did not agree with the decision. They only found out when they got back to the testing station that halfway through he'd automatically failed
Starting point is 00:08:12 because of taking evasive action or something. And the dad was like, well, A, you should have said it at the time, and B, what did you expect him to do? Like evasive action was to avoid a situation. So I don't know. It could be a case of an a-hole at that place. I mean, when we talked about it, people said, oh, yeah, no, it's known in Hamilton. You don't go there.
Starting point is 00:08:32 You just avoid that place. Oh, that's sad. And then maybe that's why they fail them, because they have to reach a quarter of how many people sit their license there. And because they're known to fail people, they don't. So the people that do go there get failed to make up. Who knows? I'd be worse.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Well, I said at the time when they failed that poor lady for having a dirty car, don't go there. Go somewhere else. Yeah. It's rough. Or go to Moronsville. Yeah. Or less traffic lights.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Far less. Are there any traffic lights? No hills. No. Roundabouts. Do you do a home start anywhere? Yeah, they'll find one. A little mound? Pretty. Do they just take you do a hill start anywhere? Yeah, they'll find one. A little mound?
Starting point is 00:09:06 Pretty. Do they just take you into a little... A mound start. A mound? Up onto Stirling Drive, there was a hill. I think that's where I did my hill start. Right, okay. Well, they just take you out,
Starting point is 00:09:14 and they take you out into the 100K zone. Ooh, okay. Just to give you a little taste of that. Yeah. No, that'll do. You turn around, you go back in. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Louis Vuitton is releasing something,
Starting point is 00:09:29 which I don't know who would buy it. But to be fair, what they're releasing is dual use. Right. So you may have seen that they are releasing a face shield. It is a luxury face shield. So it's one of the plastic ones. Yeah, like a medical full PPE shield. It is a luxury face shield. So it's one of the plastic ones. Yeah. Like a medical full PPE shield. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:49 It does come out quite a bit at the chin. So I don't know how effective it would be. But everyone can see that it's Louis Vuitton because it has the famous edging. And then the strap around the head is also just looks like one of the suitcases. And the thing is, if you've got one
Starting point is 00:10:05 of these people can't assume you got it in thailand because you can't go to thailand very true like if you're rocking some new louis vuitton or anything like that at the moment it's a good chance you actually own it and it's legit i'm just going to... Yes. AliExpress. AliExpress. Are they on there? AliExpress. I just put Louis Vuitton. Obviously, the bags are the most popular. I'll go to mask.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Oh, no, no. Face shield? There's lots of masks, but there's not. No, no Louis Vuitton. Okay. It's 1,400 New Zealand. What? I mean, that doesn't surprise me.
Starting point is 00:10:47 No. And I mean, like, it will be leather. I mean, the front is like, what is that? PVC or whatever. It's like plastic. But the rest of it looks like it's leather. And the dual use is it goes down over your face, but then it's on like a pivot little hinge at the sides
Starting point is 00:11:04 and you can pivot it up and use it as a visor? Yeah, I'm sorry. I've just Googled it. There's absolutely no way that it's like $1,400 worth. Well, it's leather and it's the name. Is that as cheap as... It looks like what a middle-aged to older lady wears when she goes for nine holes of golf because 18's
Starting point is 00:11:23 just a little bit too much and she's got to get home and put the dinner on. It looks like one of those, but it's no, it's not taken. It's taken, absolutely. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, $1,400, have you got that to spare? I mean, don't get me wrong, if I was super
Starting point is 00:11:38 rich, I'd probably have one just to have one. And I'd wear it for cutting the onions. Because you do get very... Get up under the vis for cutting the onions. It's still going to get up under the visor for the onions. Well, Megan, I just wasted $1,400 on an ineffective onion shield. Go straight back to Louis Vuitton. I was crying during the onions.
Starting point is 00:11:57 God. It doesn't work. Flesh Fauna Megan, the podcast, ZM. The, uh, I don't want to say conspiracy theory. I feel like that word's been really. Well, unsolved. It's an unsolved mystery. Taken from us in 2020. An unsolved mystery in the South Island of the big black cat.
Starting point is 00:12:17 The Canterbury. Panther? Question mark. Because you're going to say panther because nobody knows if it is a panther. There's been sightings over the years, not a huge amount footprints found yeah relatively good photos like often at a distance like taken from the road of these big cats the one i always remember is a few years ago there was um truckers and it was snowing and they got a grainy video of what looked like a huge cat. It can't be a house cat. Was there a photo at Tamuka?
Starting point is 00:12:49 Was it Tamuka? Tekapo. There was a photo at the campground at Tekapo, remember? And it was a cat, but it was from a distance. And they said it looked like the size of a dog, but it was walking like a cat. Like a cat. Like a slinky walk. And there
Starting point is 00:13:03 were lots of theories as to why there could be big cats roaming the South Island. Yeah. Well, one of them is that they've just got a really good diet of Kiwi and Kia and native animals. Yeah, because look, I'll show you a photo now. This is a Department of Conservation Labrador in front of a dead cat, a wild feral cat. Oh, my God. That's huge. Really.
Starting point is 00:13:27 It's not as big as the Labrador, but it's getting there. It's far larger than your average tatty. Yeah. Your household puss. Like, if you came and, like, met that in the bush, that feral cat, you'd probably run. Well, that's why we're talking about it, because the latest news is that a North Canterbury possum hunter has shot a very large black cat and put a photo of it beside his hunting rifle. It's as long as the rifle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:56 That is huge. It's as long as the rifle. And he believes it's got the markings or it looks like a juvenile, which means that it could be the baby of a bigger cat that is out there. Scared him so much, he said that he's not going back into the bush alone. That looks like it could be the size of a very skinny Labrador. Like, about as long and it's huge. Yeah, like a poodle, like a smaller poodle, like a mid-sized poodle, not a full poodle.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Has he given it to, like, the Department of Conservation or, like... That's what I want to know. What's happened to it now? Can they do a testing and see what breed it is? It wouldn't even be that hard to do, I don't think. CSI? Yeah, maybe CSI has led me up the garden path on how hard it would be to do. Surely you could identify what it is.
Starting point is 00:14:38 It's got a massive spread on it and everything. It's a big cat. So if that's like a baby, yeah, the mama black cat could be huge. Can you get all black feral cats? I guess so. I hadn't thought about it. But you're right. When you see wild feral cats, they're kind of like tabbies.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah, because they all breed. Could like a big cat breed with a feral cat? Like say a puma or a panther? Well, a big cat breed with a feral cat? Like say a puma or a whatever, a panther? Well, a lion can breed with a tiger. It's not super successful. Because then if you've got a big puma or a big, what else do they think? A panther.
Starting point is 00:15:18 A black panther. Breeding with like feral cats, then you're making huge giant feral cats. Yeah. What big cats can crossbreed? The Panthera hybrid is a crossbreed between any of the four species, tiger, lion, jaguar, and leopard. It happens in captivity.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Right. But they don't breed in the wild because often the males, if they give birth to males, it renders them infertile. But that's the best evidence we have, like, close up, that that's a massive cat. When you say interbreeding, are you imagining a household tabby mounted a puma or a panther? Well, I was imagining it was the other way around.
Starting point is 00:15:58 No, because the household tabby wouldn't be able to birth a large. Whenever you're breeding, you've got to go small into big. Yeah, I didn't think about that. You can't go big into small. Yeah, okay. The smaller of the two has to be the male that impregnates the female. Well, I mean, you go out into the country and tell them that when they're getting frisky.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. She's going to really struggle to give birth. And that's inconsiderate. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Right. Garden. Garden chat. Vaughan Smith's garden build.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I saw this on your Instagram. Man, do you know how walking back and forward between the mulch pile and the garden, because they're a little bit apart, I did 13 and a half Ks with a wheelbarrow on Saturday. Oh, my God. Covering the same stretch of maybe like 120 metres over and over and over and over. That's crazy. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:16:56 It was a few wheelbarrow loads. It's a quarter marathon with a wheelbarrow. Yeah. Good Lord. Walking in heavy boots. So you you build this garden you build the little surroundy beds and you fill it up they raise beds yeah i did the hugelkultur which is a german gardening method it just means like hill gardens or mounds okay and you put like logs at the bottom yeah and then you just like cover it with different layers of things and so when they start
Starting point is 00:17:23 to rot and like the bugs that live in them are really good for the soil and everyone raved about it has been like way to have a garden and use less water oh okay it retains because you think about all winter when it's raining those logs are getting waterlogged yeah and they never dry out and then in summer they can slowly like release it oh god the germans know some things oh yeah this is old school germany too like 1500s been the first that are doing this. Clever buggers. Anyway, did that. So yeah, lots of that.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I think you've lost Megan. No, I'm listening. You love a garden though. I never don't like building it. I like. Oh, that's where the fun's at. So then now I've got it all ready to go. And I had some potatoes that during lockdown,
Starting point is 00:18:06 I bought this massive sack of potatoes and shadows. Like, we'll never get through those. And jokes on her, we did. And then, so I bought another one, but then lockdown ended and we didn't. So those, you know how they sprout? Oh, yeah. Because I opened my pantry once and I had one of those. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Roots were going everywhere. I was like, ah. So pop those in a pot And you'll grow some tates It's going to be a pretty big pot I just have to chuck mine out So I put We planted some But I've got so much room
Starting point is 00:18:29 This is such a large garden That I've maybe overdone it a little bit But I've got so much room For extra potatoes And I love yummy potatoes Straight from the garden Always reminds me of Christmas at Nan's
Starting point is 00:18:39 But you put potatoes in a separate You don't put them in your Garden garden You put them in like Tires or something separate Because you've got to Build it up, right? No, not this way.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Not the way I'm doing it. Well, I can add more but I don't need to have it in tires because I've got a separate, I've got an area for them that's a little bit lower. So what's your question? What's a yummy potato? Because you're wasting show time and resources. You are laughing but
Starting point is 00:19:03 there's so many types of potato. Agria, like that's your bog standards on potato. The little baby ones are yum. Oh, yeah, those are yum. Do those. But what are those cool? You need to figure out what you would eat the most of. Just potatoes, full stop.
Starting point is 00:19:17 A little boiled one or a roasty or what? Oi. Oi. Oi. Yeah, oi. What about the big long ones they make fries out of? Like the McDonald's have. The real big ones. Because then you can make some home fries. What about the big long ones they make fries out of? Like the McDonald's have.
Starting point is 00:19:27 The real big ones. Because then you can make some home fries. Yeah, they've got to be big. So I'm on this website. This longies. Big longies. This looks like it's got a long. Oh, yeah, that's long.
Starting point is 00:19:38 The pink fur. Oh, yeah. Looks like the Dutch cream. That's a big Tate. Look at the size of that Tate. I didn't know there were so many different kinds. Mate, look at all these Tates. Anushka, Desiree, Heather, Jersey Benny. I see, that rings a bell to me.
Starting point is 00:19:53 I feel like that is a yummy potato. Imagine having a potato named after you, Heather. I love you, Heather. I'm naming this new potato I've made after you. I've cross-bred some potatoes and I'm going to name it after my lovely wife who reminds me of a potato. There's no other way to take that, is there? Heather the potato, that's what we call her.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Do you want to know what the McDonald's potatoes are? Yeah. They're a russet burbank, but they are grown like in Canterbury in around New Zealand. Oh, there you go. It's a russet burbank. A russet what? Burbank.
Starting point is 00:20:22 How do I spell it? Like California, I think that's where they were born. No, no, no. The first part. Russet. Russet. R-U-S-S-E-T. Russet.
Starting point is 00:20:30 There you go. Oh, yeah. You get a big long one. Yeah, there we go. Go some low-tatoes. There we go. Oh, yeah. The low-carb potatoes.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Yeah. Oh, to be honest, when I'm eating potatoes, I'm not worried about the carbohydrates. Yeah, let's be honest. When I'm eating potatoes, they're deep-fried to hell. It could be any kind of potato. It doesn't matter. Thank God they're low carb. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan.
Starting point is 00:20:48 The podcast. ZM. From the ZM think tank. This is the top six. Hello there. Today's top six deals with the closure of another video store. I thought they'd already all closed. I did too, but apparently this is Auckland's last
Starting point is 00:21:06 United video. Play it one more time now. Tony Martin is going to close the doors of Papakura United video. R.I.P. So I remember there was that always that famous block, the last
Starting point is 00:21:22 blockbuster in, is it Alaska? In America. And that's like famously the last blockbuster in is it Alaska in America and that's like famously the last one because like I think the internet's rubbish and so the internet's no good right
Starting point is 00:21:32 so people can't stream and places where there are still lots of old people yeah the video DVD still has been hanging on the longest there might be
Starting point is 00:21:40 well apparently you know the video shot in Te Atatu and Blockhouse Bay last year. Okay. And, yeah, this guy's shutting it down in Papakura there. So they're having a sale. Okay. Everything must go.
Starting point is 00:21:56 So I've got the top six bargains to be had at the closing of United Video. Okay. Number six, a bag of official 1990s popcorn. One of those long bags of popcorn. Do you remember you'd go to the video store and your parents would be like, please. And your mum would be like it's already popped. I've got some
Starting point is 00:22:15 kernels from the bin in. Kernels from the bin in. They're dusty. I'll pop them when you get home. They're dusty but everything at the bin in is dusty. Your hay fever, could you go to a bin in? Your asthma and your hay fever. Bin in, it would be like...
Starting point is 00:22:32 Probably not. Someone would leave the bloody lid off the almond flour and you'd be all go. Oh, God. I'm actually super addicted at the moment to microwave popcorn. God, it's good. Are you? It's so yum.
Starting point is 00:22:45 But you mean like the flavoured ones.. God, it's good. Are you? It's so yum. But you mean like the flavoured ones that are up there? Yeah, the flavoured ones. No, neither, but the microwave popcorn is so good. What about doing it yourself?
Starting point is 00:22:53 It's way better. No, do it. Are you kidding me? It takes too long. Like, you can literally make popcorn in two minutes. But it doesn't taste as good as like doing it in a pot, right?
Starting point is 00:23:01 I don't know how to do it myself. If I'm doing it myself, it's just got nothing on it. And you put it like a medium heat. And you just go like this. Put the lid on. But then you can burn it. And then there's soggy bits and burny bits. And I'm a flirt.
Starting point is 00:23:14 No, the soggy bits are butter. Mmm, butter. Yeah, but you get like 10 that are just full of butter. And then the others are dry. Yeah, and then don't you sprinkle. I remember making it at home. And then you put some more melted butter on it and whir that around. And then don't you sprinkle, I remember making it at home, and then you put some more melted butter on it and whir that around,
Starting point is 00:23:26 and then don't you sprinkle some icing sugar on it? You can, you can. Or hot caramel sauce. Oh, madness, madness. Number five on the list of the top six bargains to be had at a closing unit of a video store, a signed copy of the Xena box set that the owner got signed by Lucy Lawless
Starting point is 00:23:41 when she came in once. Wow. You wouldn't mind signing this, would you? Xena. My name's Lucy. Wow, Xena. Always travelling in disguise. I feel like the internet would pay
Starting point is 00:23:56 something for that. Oh, probably. Good money. Yeah. For a bit of Xena. It's one of those weird shows made in New Zealand and Young Hercules and stuff and Mighty Morphin Power Rangers and everything overseas loved them and we were just like, huh? Weird, yeah, we were, eh? What? And they're like, oh, you're from
Starting point is 00:24:11 New Zealand, Xena's made there. You're like, really? Xena. I mean, cool, I like that it's doing well and I like that you know who we are because of it, but weird. Couldn't get into it. But you always had that one friend at school and she was like, there's something about Xena
Starting point is 00:24:27 and now it all makes sense. She was sexual. It was, yeah. She'd never know. Well, she was a, yeah, what do you call it? A gay icon. Yeah, lesbian icon. A massive lesbian icon.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Yeah, I had a lesbian boss and she had a Xena calendar. Yeah. And every month was a different Xena in a position. What? Like a fighting position. Oh, yes. Not like a sexual lesbian position. Did she ever hook up with that little sidekick she had on the show, eh?
Starting point is 00:24:52 But that was what everybody wanted. I don't know. I never watched it, Ward. I've got no idea. The blonde sidekick. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know enough. She ever hooked up with her?
Starting point is 00:25:01 I don't think so. I bet there was some fan fiction, some early internet fan fiction where she did. Question. What calendars are lesbians buying in 2020? Answer. I don't know. I've got no idea. I'm out.
Starting point is 00:25:17 If you're a lesbian and you're listening to the show, who's on your calendar? Hey, maybe it's Mountain Vistas. Boring. Number four on the list of the top six bargains to be had at a Closing United Video Store, a tape rewinding machine. Who doesn't need one of those for all the tapes that you need to rewind? Number three on the list of the top six bargains to be had
Starting point is 00:25:40 at the Closing United Video Store, a movie poster for American Pie, but not American Pie, but not American Pie 1, or not even American Pie 2. American Pie, that other one, where that all kind of left. Except maybe Stifler hung around. Yeah, okay. But then
Starting point is 00:25:57 it was just mostly Stifler and the guy with the massive eyebrows that's in Schitt's Creek now. Yeah. Number two on the list of the top six bargains to be had at a closing United Video store.
Starting point is 00:26:08 A scratched copy of Mortal Kombat for the PlayStation 1. Great. Andy. Down to back punch. Come here! Finish him.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Quick to play. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. You'd always freak out when it came to your fatality. You'd always be like, go, go, no! Oh, I've ruined it. Then you didn't do the fatality. You'd always be like, go, go, no, oh, I've ruined it. Then you didn't do the fatality.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You just had to punch him one more time. And number one on the list of the top six bargains to be had at a closing United Video store, pop behind the curtain and get yourself a videotape of some high-class retro pornography that your parents probably watched at your age as well. They were into some things. You could probably almost get a
Starting point is 00:26:49 Xena parody, probably. Pornography back there, if you look hard enough. That is today's top six. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Okay, so Chris Evans, Captain America, he was just trying to share a fun game
Starting point is 00:27:06 he was playing heads up. Is this Ellen's game? Yeah, we played it the weekend. Okay. So how does it work? Yeah, I don't know. So what happens? The mobile app.
Starting point is 00:27:16 How does that work? Okay, so what happens is you open up heads up. Yeah. We play heads up kids because we play it with the girls and it's easier. Okay. And you pick a thing like animals as a category. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:27 So you know it's an animal and then you put it on your head and then the people who are watching have to be like, long neck, lives in Africa. You're like giraffe. Clink. And you click it down and you put it back up. Yep. It records. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:42 It video records your front-facing camera. So the people that are giving you the clues, if they're acting it out, you might be like, well, that would be funny to re-watch. You'll be like, of course I wasn't going to get that. Look what you look like. And it's them being like, goes like this. And then you can have a funny little video of them. And it says what the animal was down in the bottom corner.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Okay, right. So herein lies the problem. It's the videoing part. Okay, Chris Evans was doing this and playing. So he shared a video that they'd done of his family playing Heads Up. Right. Obviously thought it was funny, shared the video. But it was a screen recording from an iPhone.
Starting point is 00:28:17 And when the video ended, he didn't edit it. It popped up with his camera roll. Now. Why did he do this? I don't think he even noticed. Because if you've got the video in your album. It's already saved. It's already saved.
Starting point is 00:28:34 You can upload it. You don't need to screen record you watching the video. Yeah. To then upload the screen record. I'm not sure. And I see people do this all the time. Unless he wanted to trim the start of it. He did not trim.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Maybe he intended to trim. Well, something was trimmed. Yeah, so it showed the rest of his pictures in his camera roll and he shared with the world a DP from his camera roll. Yeah. Accidental. It was quickly deleted by him, but it's the internet, so.
Starting point is 00:29:07 It's there forever now. Yes. God, the memes yesterday were so good. Yeah. I loved how, so everyone was like, okay, this is happening. They flooded Twitter
Starting point is 00:29:19 with lots of positive things of him going to like hospitals, of him helping, I can't remember who it was, up the stairs at one of the awards ceremony. All the things that he's done that it's great. He's a good human being, actually. I saw an interview with him the other week. He set up like a non-partisan website to help people vote with the upcoming election.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Right. Give them all kinds of information. So he's a bit of a social warrior. He's a good man. He's a good dude. Yeah. So, yeah, they flooded it. So it became very hard because it was also deleted to find it.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Yeah. So the internet came to us. Was it hard to find? Took you about 10 seconds to find. Was it hard to find? I would like to point it out that I never sorted out. So on my quest to see. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Because I didn't understand. Oh, yeah, whatever. I wouldn't have had a look. And the most interesting thing was somebody was like, he's my penis twin and put up a picture of their penis compared to the outline because the photo of his is like. Okay. It's not a big gratuitous photo.
Starting point is 00:30:21 It's a small square. Like when you look at an album, it's a small square. It's on the camera roll. It's poorly lit. But the shape, I'm not going. Like when you look at an album, it's a small square and it's poorly lit. But the shape, I'm not gonna lie to you, that guy did have, it looked a lot like his penis. You're right.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Okay. Yeah. I mean, also, we haven't had like a nudie leak from a celebrity in a while, but a lot of people were pointing out that the way the internet reacted
Starting point is 00:30:43 was wildly different to what happened when Jennifer Lawrence had her nudes leaked. And websites were posting them. Those were hacked as well. Those were hacked, exactly. Shouldn't accidentally upload those. And everyone's like, why are you even taking pictures of yourself naked?
Starting point is 00:30:57 Slut shaming and all that kind of deal. But, I mean, it has been a while. That was pre-MeToo, and it has been a while since I'd like to think that the internet would react the same now for a female as they would for Chris Evans. But yeah, absolutely came to his defence.
Starting point is 00:31:13 He's got nothing to be ashamed of. No, it's happened to the best of us. And yeah, I mean, these days people get complacent. Has it happened to the best of us? Oh God, I remember once I... Yeah, you... That's right, you. Yeah, on Snapchat.
Starting point is 00:31:27 But I was like... Thank God. It was only Uno Memento on the story and it said that nobody had seen it at the time that I deleted it. Because as a joke, you were sending a picture of your ball. Was that correct, to your wife? Yeah, it was not like... It's not exactly how you would take an erotic picture of your junk.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Right, okay. It was like a joke. Yeah. But instead of sending, you press story. That's such risky business doing like risque photos on Snapchat. Yeah, I haven't done it since. It would always freak me out. Because I remember once I got my phone out of my pocket and Instagram had been open
Starting point is 00:32:04 and there was a photo ready to be posted. Like it was in the, it was that one step away from being posted. But luckily it was just a photo of, I forget, it might have been the cat or something or just a photo that I'd taken. Like I was like, oh my God, that could have been so much worse. Like it was so close. I'm surprised it hasn't happened. Freaks me out.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I was walking around at our house I was home alone And I was naked And I was kind of half carrying my phone Looking for something Yeah And I was one click away from going on Instagram live Can you imagine how late that would be And it would just go on
Starting point is 00:32:39 And it would just be me Because I was like holding it So I would have been walking And you just sort of keep getting these side glances of it And I would have had no idea. No, no. For however long. Well, I wonder, can we take some calls? Has anyone accidentally posted a nudie online? Like accidentally. Like maybe you thought you were sending it to someone. Because I've heard of a friend doing that. They were
Starting point is 00:32:59 sending a nudie some Snapchat videos and they accidentally put them on their story. See, Snapchat. And someone messaged him and said, oh, did you mean to do this? They were like, no, but thank you. Yeah, gone, gone, gone. Also, sorry, that's my junk. So, I don't know, have people done that? 0800DARLS.M, I'd love to hear this morning.
Starting point is 00:33:19 You can give us a call or you can text us on 9696. Have you ever accidentally sent a naughty photo to someone you shouldn't have? Maybe it was like meant to be a text message, an SMS, and went to the wrong person. I don't know. Give us a call. ZM? Chris Evans, Captain America, had an accidental.
Starting point is 00:33:39 He posted his own DP on the internet over the weekend. It was a video and right at the end of it, his own DP on the internet over the weekend. But not the whole picture. It was a video and right at the end of it, it flashed to the album on his phone and there was one in there. Yeah. Not being talked about much as that other. Someone obviously sent Chris Evans a Chris Evans meme and he saved it.
Starting point is 00:33:58 And everyone's just kind of... Glazing over that one. Yeah. It's not something I care to say on the radio. No. Top middle of that grid if you've seen that. So we want to know if you've ever accidentally shared a naughty picture.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Maybe with someone that wasn't supposed to get it. Sure. Thomas, what happened? Oh yeah, so normally I'm quite a gutsy person. I'm not too fussed about anything really. But basically what happens is my Christian friends, they all wanted to have a video call.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Okay. But I wanted to have a shower so I combined the two. Okay. I don't know how this could go wrong, Thomas. Oh, neither, but it did. So what happened is I ended up dropping my phone and it landed face up
Starting point is 00:34:49 and they just got the opposite of a bird's eye view of everything. A worm's eye view. What is that view called? Snail's eye view. Everything does look bigger from the angle looking up, though, Thomas, if there's a plus sign to that.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Thomas is my bugger. I wasn't supposed to, was it? Hey, thanks for your call, Thomas. Helen, when did you accidentally send a naughty picture? It wasn't actually me. It was my friend Amanda. Oh, okay. Just name and shame, Helen.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Amanda. Yeah. Just name and shame Amanda Since she was sending a note to her boyfriend whose name was very similar to another friend's boyfriend and accidentally pushed the wrong name and sent it to her friend's boyfriend Oh no That can get you in even more trouble
Starting point is 00:35:39 Now knowing old snake in the grass Amanda was this a mistake or was she making a play? No no definitely Definitely a mistake or was she making a play? No, no, definitely a mistake. Definitely a mistake. Did the girlfriend of the other boyfriend say anything? Find out? Oh, well, Amanda quickly got on the phone and was like, just tell him to delete it straight away.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Don't look at it. Oh, don't open it. If somebody called me and said, do not read or look at what I've just sent you, I'd be like, oh, absolutely. Totally. Of course, of course. And then I'd look at it. I'm not not read or look at what I've just sent you, I'd be like, oh, absolutely. Totally. Of course, of course. And then I'd look at it. I'm not going to not look at it.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You'd hype, though, wouldn't you? All right, Helen, thanks. You called some text messages. I went away on a holiday. Oh, I remember holidays. And, I mean, it's national holidays.
Starting point is 00:36:19 You can still enjoy a holiday right here in Aotearoa, New Zealand. You can. Beautiful. Had to leave my work phone at work. Forgot to turn off the messengers. Boyfriend sent a few nudes through
Starting point is 00:36:30 which popped up as previews on the front screen and the boss saw it all. Oh no. So, it's not your nudes but
Starting point is 00:36:37 somebody's nudes, right? Oh no. My friend accidentally sent a rather saucy Snapchat to my older brother She was dressing up as a sexy Mrs. Claus for her boyfriend And her boyfriend and my brother have the same name
Starting point is 00:36:53 So this is a problem with the same names Because somebody else said They were dating a girl with the same name as my mother And ended up sending the old lady a DP Well she's seen it. Maybe not lately. Maybe not yet. Somebody else posted a boob to their Snapchat story.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Just a single boob. Okay, yeah. Probably the better of the two boobs. Probably putting your best boob forward. Do I have a best boob? Do you have a best boob? Yeah, I do have a best boob. The left one, if you must say.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Your left? Or is it better? My left. Just sits better Oh I'm so happy to know That the one right next to me is Well I'm giving you my best boob You should be thankful
Starting point is 00:37:30 Do you have a favourite? I'm just investigating Mine are very similar Mine are actually both the same I'm very symmetrical Maybe this one sticks out more But does that make it the least favourite? I don't know actually
Starting point is 00:37:42 I don't know It's your criteria Some people say one's bigger than the other. I don't know about if mine are, but the left one's definitely better. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. ZM. Stepping up to the podium for the 10th year of your row. Your gold medalist.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Where's my medal? Well, it's back. Where's my medal? Where we award people for just doing everyday things. Yeah, but you maybe didn't get the outlandish credit from others that you thought maybe you deserved. Remember that time you cleaned the whole oven? Do I what?
Starting point is 00:38:18 It was years ago. You're still going on about it. Still fondly. Yeah. In my brain. You didn't get the recognition you need from that. No. This started when I washed my jeans after you guys were badgering me.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Washed my jeans and I washed them, I scrubbed them, I got them clean. I got all but like one stain out. I washed my jeans at the weekend. Oh, well done. They were a bit snug this morning though. Oh, I like that. You like that. It takes a couple of days to get them loose again.
Starting point is 00:38:47 It really makes my booty pop. A couple of squats in them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But careful. You don't want to pop the gooch. All right. We welcome first to Where's My Metal, Mandy. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Good morning, guys. Good morning, good morning. Good morning, Mandy. Now, Mandy, why do you deserve a medal? Well, you know, every time you get out of the car, there's always something and you're like, oh, she'll probably take it with me. There it is.
Starting point is 00:39:13 My car's full of that stuff. Yeah, yeah. So Friday, I was like, you know what? I've got the day off. How about I treat myself and I'll take that water bottle that's on the ground. But there wasn't one. There was seven.
Starting point is 00:39:28 But I finally did it. And I can see the bottom of my cup. And now when you turn a corner, it's not like. Roll, roll, roll, donk. Yeah. Did you. My front seat eats everything, though. You're like, I'm sure I need to turn it.
Starting point is 00:39:44 But there's seven. So was that just the front passenger seat? Yeah, don't dig on the back yet. I was going to say, did you get to the back, or is that another week? Save that for another day, Mandy. Yeah, save that for another week, Dave. Okay, all right, Mandy, that is fantastic. Wait there, Mandy.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Georgia, good morning. Kia ora, team. Kia ora, good morning. Georgia, why do you need a medal? Why ora, team. Kia ora, good morning. Georgia, why do you need a medal? Why do you deserve it? Well, slight backstory. I got told, I think, three years ago, I need to get my brakes checked, but they don't actually take your tyres off to get a warrant. But after, I think, so long delaying it, I'm finally going to get my brakes checked on my car today. After three years.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Oh, my God, Georgia. They're going to be like, there's nothing left here. Well, my boyfriend's tyre blew out last week, so I was like, oh, maybe I should go and get it checked on. That's a sign. But when you put your foot on the middle pedal, did the car stop? There's a bit of a delay. It's quite a slow...
Starting point is 00:40:42 Oh, my God. Georgia. Georgia, but you're finally... You're giving us a connection. You're finally doing it. Yes. Really, the thing you need a medal for is making a telephone call to a mechanic.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Yes, well, that was the hardest part. Yes, I know. Which one do you call? Yes, all right, Georgia. So annoying. Georgia, wait there. Amy, good morning. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Why do you deserve a medal? I deserve a medal because I finally had one day free of no morning sickness for the first time in four weeks. Oh, my. Oh, wow. I don't mean morning sickness. I mean all day, 24-7, from the second I wake up to the second I go to bed and being on a drip twice.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Amy, that sounds like you actually deserve an actual medal, not just one of these half-assed radio thingies. Or take one of these and hurry up, one or the other. Because I don't know if you caught Mandy before, but all she did was take a bottle or two out of her car. You've been like fighting for survival.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Also, the one of us... I vomit a bottle or two up every day. Oh, Jesus. Megan's loving this chat. Yeah. No, the one of us... I vomit a bottle or two up every day. Oh, Jesus. Megan's loving this chat. Yeah. No, I'm being lucky. Good Lord, I wouldn't have caught that. All right, Amy, wait there.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And Sinead, good morning. Good morning. How are you? Good, good, thanks. Now, why do you deserve a medal? Because after an entire month of staring at my clean pile of washing on the floor, I finally put them in my drawers. Wow! You put your clothes away. Yes!
Starting point is 00:42:08 How many times had they like been reworn and washed and then just put back on the floor drobe? Oh, at least weekly. Yes! That's brilliant. So you can see that. However, I've got some surprise evidence to present
Starting point is 00:42:24 to the jury, if it please you. Oh, please do, yes. Right. A large spider had decided to take up residence in my pile, and I am petrified of them. Yeah, right. Fair call. I'm going to burnt it.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I reckon that probably, were they outside on the washing line? No, no. Oh. They were inside, yeah. When we get spiders, do they always catch a ride back on a towel off the washing line? Yeah. No, I don't hang them out for that reason.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Now, is that going to make you not have a floor dropper in the future or what? I am never doing washing again. Yeah, good call. Oh, you're just single use. Single use. All right, Sinead. Wait there. That means somebody is going to miss out on a medal because we've got four competitors in the race today.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I'm going to just indicate who I think. This is my gold, silver, bronze. The judges are tallying. You on board? Yeah. All right. Bronze today for putting her clothes away. Sinead, congratulations.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Oh, thank you. This is the recognition I deserve. A bronze medal for a job well done. Thank you. After one entire lunar cycle. Silver place today. Congratulations. Must go to Georgia for booking a mechanic. And thankfully
Starting point is 00:43:57 not killing any of us on the road. You just drive safely on the way there. Thanks. Please. And today's gold medal. It can be but one.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Mandy, you took the bottles out of your car. I love that. Congratulations, my friend. Yes. Step for a winner week, you guys. What a start to the week. You can call again when you do the backseat. I will let you know.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Let us know what you find back there. I'm sure you want to know. Yeah. And congratulations to Amy for having a day without morning sickness. But that day was rewarding to itself. It also deserves just an actual medal. Yeah, and actually, you know her, she just deserves a medal. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Celebrating small victories. And a big, bad, yeah. This has been Where's My Medal? ZM's Fletch Warner Megan, the podcast. You know the TV show Shark Tank, there's Dragon's Den. There's a whole lot we learn around the world, whatever their, like, most fierce animal is, basically they say that and then the dark place it lives
Starting point is 00:45:14 and then that's how you... Well, that's how we got our name. Dive into Fletch, Vaughan and Megan's Fishy Tank. It's about making your side hustle a financially hustling, hustly bustle. That's why you're a mentor here at Fishy Tank. That's our slogan. With that kind of brilliant advice.
Starting point is 00:45:36 We're joined in studio by Hannah McQueen, Managing Director of EnableMe, enableme.co.nz, and you're a financial advisor as well, and you've been all about the side hustle for a while. Yeah, I think about 30, maybe even 40% of our customers, clients have a side hustle. The average amount of side hustle income is about $1,000 a month. For some people, it's just to replace their income, like they're just not earning enough from their main job. For others, it's their hobby just happens to pay them. And then there
Starting point is 00:46:02 is a chunk where it's almost a kind of a segue into this is the path I actually want to go down to earn my income. Right. How long, you say $1,000 a month, would that be when people start or how long down the track do people have to stick to the side hustle before they can lean more on it being their main hustle?
Starting point is 00:46:20 Well it depends on their skill set normally. I guess if you're younger and you don't have, your skill set is somewhat limited, then you might be starting at a couple of hundred dollars a month. But the average even in the US is about a thousand dollars a month. I think 35% of people have a side hustle. It's just, it's more common than what it is here. I guess the side hustle is just a term for a second job, you know, like it's just got a slightly cooler name, but it's trying to balance everything
Starting point is 00:46:47 so you can get a bit more income in. Yeah. And is a side hustle always like passion driven? No, no. For some people, you know, like it could be babysitting or marking papers or Uber driver. I'm pretty sure that's not a drive for passion.
Starting point is 00:46:59 But for other people, if it's hobby based, that might be life saving or coaching a sports team that you just happen to love. Or it could be using your existing skills to contract or do extra work on the weekend, but for someone else. Because I always thought of the side hustle was like you had to start your own business, you know?
Starting point is 00:47:19 And that seems like quite daunting for people. But you can just do like the babysitting or, you know, still work for someone else in a second capacity. That's right. The starting your own business is actually the underbelly of the side hustle because you're more susceptible to burnout
Starting point is 00:47:37 and these hidden little tax consequences that you might not have even considered versus when it's pretty passive, like a little bit of extra work here or there. It's inconsequential to a lot of people, so it can stay under the radar. But the businesses, well, I guess you're doing that because you're trying to create this genuine form of extra income, but it tends to require a bit of capital. You're stretched a lot thinner. The payback can be a lot longer than a little bit of extra cash in the back pocket, which is still technically a lot thinner. The payback can be a lot longer than a little bit of extra cash in the back pocket,
Starting point is 00:48:05 which is still technically a side hustle. Right. So how many people do you know in New Zealand have a side hustle? And as you say, is it an age thing? Are younger people doing it more than older people? Because I think my parents' generation was always like, you pick a job and you do it till you die.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Well, I think for a lot of people, the motivation behind a side hustle is more just, we need to get some extra income. And it could be more to cover up that their main job isn't paying them enough, or they're just not getting ahead from their main job. So it's not necessarily, if they were earning enough income,
Starting point is 00:48:41 the side hustle wouldn't even be on their radar. It's just to supplement that. But there is a chunk of people where they're trying to start a small business and they're doing it while they're still working. So they're still getting their main income from someone else. And those are the ones where, well, I think they're kind of amazing, but they're susceptible to burnout and all these other things because it's hardcore doing that.
Starting point is 00:49:04 It's hard. Is that the biggest risk, do you think, of the side hustle? Is people don't know how, they forget how hard they're working themselves? Yes. So the main risk is burnout. Then that they have more tax to pay than what they thought. Then that they lose the love of their passion
Starting point is 00:49:19 or that they're just hiding the fact they're not earning enough from their main hustle. Right. So go on. What would you say people need to be wary of then if they were wanting to start up a side hustle? Like, this all sounds really good, but yeah, what do they need to steer clear of? What's some warning? Well, I guess if it's something kind of more casual where you don't have to invest in anything other than yourself, your time,
Starting point is 00:49:46 well, then you can kind of just waft in and waft out. So that could be anything from coaching or just contracting your time or babysitting or walking dogs or even Uber driving, where it's just you just come in and everything's essentially taken care for you. But where you're wanting to start a business,
Starting point is 00:50:04 that's when people tend to romanticise how easy it's going to be. And they understate what's actually required to get the business up and running from a fund perspective, so that they need more money than what they realise. But you can go hard for a while just on energy, especially when you're younger. But at some point, you want to get a return. And I think that some Kiwis aren't particularly good at pinpointing when it's time to
Starting point is 00:50:31 either move completely into it or actually chop it off because it's going to take a lot more energy. If you've romanticised and it's your passion, it could be hard to just be like, cut it and walk away. So if people have questions, because that's the thing we could be hard to just be like cut it and walk away so if people have questions
Starting point is 00:50:46 because that's the thing we learnt when we talked about this we were inundated we couldn't get over the amount of people who were messaging in especially lately
Starting point is 00:50:53 with the COVID economy people starting if people wanted to get in touch this is the sort of thing that you help out with well we help with a general plan
Starting point is 00:51:03 so we're all about you need to have money left over and if you don't have enough money it could be because. So we're all about you need to have money left over. And if you don't have enough money, it could be because you're spending more rather than you have to earn more. And then let's make it work for you harder. Instead of you just working more hours, that's an exhausting way
Starting point is 00:51:15 to get ahead. So let's take that and try and grow some wealth and make some progress. Forward momentum is probably the most precious. Smarter, not harder. Smarter, not harder. We like that. Yes. That's my favourite. Or just to say it and then go home early.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Enableme.co.nz is the website if you would like to get in touch. Thanks so much for coming in. Thank you. And don't forget as well, you can register ZM online with your side hustle. We've got $500 cash to give away as well when we pick out a side hustle. Today from 9, play ZM. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. Also, Megan, you've received a message, an email.
Starting point is 00:51:54 For am I a bad person? This is very disruptive to their friend group. Disruptive is the best word I can think of. All right, that's coming up. No, I'm at linksformen.com. Okay. The UK store. I didn't know you were a links kind of a guy.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Oh, certainly not. Certainly not an ambassador. Because it's a deodorant and a body spray, but I need an antiperspirant. So I'm a sweaty bitty. Is that not an antiperspirant? In the armpit. You use deodorant and a links.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Huh? You use it in combo. It's a deodorant and a body spray. It doesn't say anything about being an antiperspirant. In the armpit. You use deodorant in a lynx. Huh? You use it in combo. It's a deodorant in a body spray. It doesn't say anything about being an antiperspirant. No, you use a deodorant as well.
Starting point is 00:52:32 What? Why would you double up? Why would you get a two in one? It's like shampoo. What are you getting a shampoo and a conditioner for? They come in the same bottle. Your deodorant doesn't like
Starting point is 00:52:39 give off a scent. It's just like an antiperspirant, right? And then you use the lynx to like give off the scent. You know? like an antiperspirant, right? And then you use the links to like give off the scent. You know? Well, that doesn't sound right. There's one-stop shops.
Starting point is 00:52:51 The antiperspirant deodorant. Yeah, like my Nivea. My Nivea. I love your Nivea. You put your Nivea. I can't use the Nivea because the minute I smell it, it's just, it's you. You smell me.
Starting point is 00:53:00 No, but you put your Nivea and then you put your favourite fragrance on. Yeah, but you don't need to because some people say, what are you wearing? I'm like, it's my Nivea. Yeah, people you put your Nivea and then you put your favourite fragrance on. Yeah, but you don't need to because some people say, what are you wearing? I'm like, it's my Nivea. Yeah, people do. I've been there.
Starting point is 00:53:09 People have said that to me. You definitely double up. You've got to double up. Anti-perspirant. But he only puts his fragrance on when he's on the prowl. He's leaving a bit of a burly behind him. Because I use my Nivea
Starting point is 00:53:18 and then I use my whatever perfume. But you can use just the Nivea because it's anti-perspirant and it smells. Yeah, but I'm saying in that case, you need a deodorant as well. Absolutely. But why are you under links? I was going wrong when I was 14.
Starting point is 00:53:31 I thought it was going to stop me smelling it. It wasn't. Because I'm a links man. No wonder Vaude and Smith, high school Vaude and Smith didn't get the honey. No, you just get a doubled up scent. A lot. And you just keep going. You just keep going. And sometimes you'd mix. Because your mate had Lynx Orient
Starting point is 00:53:48 and somebody else had Java. And you'd have a big mix and match. Anyway, this one is kind of a mix and match. This is from the Lynx Collision. This isn't a paid endorsement, by the way, because I'm about to sit upon it. I already have. It's Lynx Collision.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Leather and cookies. Leather. Yep. And cookies. Leather and cookies. Leather and cookies. So like, I don't know why I sniffed. I was like. So like kind of musky leather, like rich leather.
Starting point is 00:54:17 And then the sweetness of a cookie. See, I'm imagining like a leather couch and then walking past that cookie shop that pumps out the cookie smell. What's that? Mahiggans? Mahiggans. Oh, that bloody Mahiggans. Damn, girl. Like you've brought a Mahiggans home and you're eating it on your leather couch.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know what? Like I'm being, like that's, no, not a good combo. Okay. 10 reviews. Currently 4.7 out of 5. Goodness, man. Listen to these reviews.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Okay. Best one yet. Wear this daily. Be great if you bought an XL one. So they must come in a smaller 5. Goodness, man. Listen to these reviews. Best one yet. Wear this daily. Be great if you bought an XL one. So they must come in a smaller bottle. Okay, right. Smells so lush. This is British, by the way.
Starting point is 00:54:52 You can tell. Yeah. Smells so lush. My boyfriend has it. And it's my favorite so far. Highly recommend, boys. Smells nice, but lasts really long, as it should. Right, okay. So they're saying that the smell of leather, as it should. Right, okay.
Starting point is 00:55:05 So they're saying that the smell of leather and cookies hangs about. What a bizarre answer. Do you think this will come to New Zealand? Well, yeah, maybe. Maybe it will lead the way. And another one that I just want to leave with you to ponder. Okay. This is a review.
Starting point is 00:55:21 It's been touted as Ogu Morning Glory. Yeah. And it is Lynx Africa Marmite. What? Okay. Lynx Africa Marmite. How I'm just trying to... With the unmistakable smell of rugged umami,
Starting point is 00:55:40 you may think maybe he's born with it, maybe it's Marmite. You're just going to think someone's dropped their toast on them. Like, before they get dressed. Did you drop your toast on you this morning? Love it or hate it, just try it. Smell like it. Like, how good is that?
Starting point is 00:55:55 They're like, look, you're either going to like it or you're not. But just try it. It's a bit like those Lamington chips they released. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They know people are going to be a bit iffy about them, but they're still going to try it. Just come on. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Now, just, we've got a really juicy, am I a bad person? But just to bring you up to speed behind the scenes, Megan ejected. I don't have the buttons in front of me. I eject, like, the mouse was somewhere and I pressed eject and I was like, I've ejected something and then we're all like, oh, whatever. What could it be? Just a whole ad break for the whole country or something.
Starting point is 00:56:30 That's why there was some double ups before. So, executive producer intern Anya, before we get to am I a bad person. You have to do a make good. Soundkeeper Gary behind the scenes has come up with an ingenious way to get us back in sync with the entire country. Yes, because you've deleted the ads for the whole nation. Yeah. So we just need to play some weather. The people around us worked.
Starting point is 00:56:50 So wait, so... But why not play the weather before the next ad break at half past? Oh, look. This is harebrained to play it now. It would be lovely. Just a 10-second weather. I think it would be lovely for us all to hear what the weather's doing today. Because I press play and it pulses the satellite.
Starting point is 00:57:07 So there's a pulse that we don't hear. It goes up to a satellite and it goes down to a computer in your local area. ZM Frequency head office. So what did I delete? The satellite. Is that falling to earth right now? I believe so, yes. Shit.
Starting point is 00:57:18 I mean, ideally you wouldn't have deleted anything and everything would be fine. But I mean. I have so much power. And then a computer locally goes oh shit that's me and then it starts telling you about weather and stuff and where you are. This should be 10 or 11 seconds. I don't know. If I press play.
Starting point is 00:57:33 This could go wrong. Look don't go anywhere because we've got a very juicy am I a bad person next but please bear with us for this 11 second weather. With Old Vape, the only recyclable pod system in NZ. R18. And Tamaki Makaurau today,
Starting point is 00:57:49 mostly cloudy, isolated light showers morning and night. Westerlies in a high of 16. Tomorrow, some rain around midday. At the moment, 14 and tata toi toi. Right, are we all back now? Wait.
Starting point is 00:58:00 No, you have to press the next button. I mean, you've only been doing this for a year. I don't know if he does, does he? No, we're good. I think we're good. Press the next button, for goodness sake press the next button. I mean, you've only been doing this for a year. I don't know if he does, does he? No, we're good. I think we're good. Press the next button, for goodness sake. Just do it. Am I a bad person?
Starting point is 00:58:11 Does that work? You've only been doing it for a couple of months. We'll forgive you. I know. God, I hope I reach my three-month trial period. I don't want to lose my job. Okay, am I a bad person? Megan, you've received an email
Starting point is 00:58:26 and this is a friend group issue. There's an issue with a friend group. Yes. Okay. Hey guys, the email reads, hoping you can help me out with a friend group issue in your am I a bad person segment. This is anonymous, I take it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:42 I've absolutely deleted the name so I don't even get tempted to say it. Okay. Please leave my name out of it. I already feel bad enough. Lol. Last week, we discovered that one of our close friends has a very, very, very naughty Twitter account, sharing videos of him doing adults-only things and posting links to his OnlyFans account.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Can you do that on Twitter? Is that a Twitter thing? I thought it was just like trolls and like news and stuff. I deleted mine. I might need to get back on Twitter. What do I search for? Are you going to do show research?
Starting point is 00:59:17 I don't know what you search for. Is there a hashtag? I do not know. I'm really living in a bit of naivety here. I honestly thought Twitter was... I searched hashtag OnlyFans, but there's only one tweet. So do they block it?
Starting point is 00:59:38 Because it said it had happened just now. Right, okay. So they say, I went out for brunch with the rest of the group. He wasn't there. And everyone was talking about his accounts and sharing around the pictures. I didn't want to look
Starting point is 00:59:53 at first, but everyone was sharing around, so I ended up looking at all of them. Would you pay for your friend's OnlyFans account just to see their pictures? They were sharing them on Twitter, right? Is that right? Right, okay. I wouldn't want to see their pictures? They were sharing them on Twitter, right? Is that right? Right, okay. I wouldn't want to see my friends. I'd have a look.
Starting point is 01:00:13 What if it was me? No, I would know. I would know. There's no way. I'd have a look. I'd have a look. Oh, my God. But only because I'm not, like, going to sneak and have a look
Starting point is 01:00:26 through your window while you're getting changed, but if you've got an account where you're sharing it, you're obviously all right with people seeing it, I'd have a look. That does not make it better. But obviously this wouldn't happen in your situation. I don't want to see Megan naked. No offence. I don't know which I'm more offended by, him wanting to look
Starting point is 01:00:44 or you not wanting to look. No, I didn't want to look. I said I'd have a look. Okay. I'm not going to seek it out, like I said. I don't want to, but it's there, so I'll try. Okay, if you found Vaughn and I had a nerdy account, not together, you wouldn't look.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Absolutely not. Have we got a single name? Maybe we could do it together. I've seen enough of your pieces over the years. I don't need to see any more. I'm quite good. Right. So anyway, it goes on.
Starting point is 01:01:06 I feel terrible that everyone is talking about him behind his back and he doesn't know we know about the accounts. Am I a bad person for not telling him we all know? I don't want to embarrass him, but it also doesn't feel right not saying anything. I really wish I just didn't know about it at all. There's no way I would tell. See, I would. See, would you?
Starting point is 01:01:27 Yeah, all your friends are talking about you behind your back. That's horrible. Nah. That's good stuff. But it's no different than getting a roasting when you're not there. If you're not in the room, you're fair game. If I had this account and you were all looking at it and laughing about it, I would definitely want to know.
Starting point is 01:01:45 So they said they were looking at it and laughing about it. I would definitely want to know. But were they laughing? So they said they were looking at it and laughing, but they weren't laughing. No, I don't. Were they laughing at the situation? Did they say they were laughing? No, I don't think they were laughing. They were all sharing around the pictures.
Starting point is 01:01:55 But I mean, you can imagine. It would have made my day if I found out one of my close mates had one of those accounts. I feel like they would. And you would look too. We know. I would 100% have a look I feel like
Starting point is 01:02:05 any one of my friends would be so good about it and be like oh my god like if it was producer Anya she'd be like hey oh my gosh if I'm not so awesome
Starting point is 01:02:11 yeah but she's a narc she would do it you would be the worst person snitches get stitches you would be the worst person to know with me yeah
Starting point is 01:02:20 I wouldn't share it I wouldn't like retweet it or whatever let's ask producers if you had a close friend in your friend group that had an OnlyFans account or was sharing on Twitter, would you tell them if you knew about it? That everyone knew? Yeah, I'd be like, hey, babes.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Hey, hey, hey, babes. Everyone's looking. For what purpose? Because they're not going to delete it. No, but I just feel like there's this whole thing hanging over them in their group now. Like, everybody's got one of those. Also, you know, every group has one of those drunk mates
Starting point is 01:02:53 that's going to bring it up. Yeah. That one person that's going to... And at the worst time. Yeah. As long as it's not me, I will watch that happen. Yes, there's a bit where I'll be like happen. Yes, this will be me. I'll be like,
Starting point is 01:03:07 I'm going to head off home. And they're like, no, I think in about three minutes they're going to bring up that OnlyFans thing. I'll be like, oh, I'll get another drink. All right, so we need your help now.
Starting point is 01:03:15 This is how Am I a Bad Person works. Am I... Oh, 800... Oh, 800-DARZATM9696. Am I a bad person for not telling him that we all know about his naughty accounts? All right, what do you think? Maybe you've been in this situation as well.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Yeah. Well, am I a bad person? Let's recap. We received an email in. So, there is a friend group and they all went out without the particular friend in question and found out about a naughty Twitter account that he has
Starting point is 01:03:52 and he also has an OnlyFans account. So, now they've all seen the pictures. They've all been talking about it behind his back. This one person feels terrible and once enough they're a bad person for not telling him we all know. So, they've basically seen their friend naked and doing stuff. It once enough, they're a bad person for not telling him we all know. So they've basically seen their friend
Starting point is 01:04:06 like naked and doing stuff. It sounds like there was a few photos. And you, you believe it might be, there might be
Starting point is 01:04:14 a gender split on this. I think guys would be more likely to be okay with having a laugh about their mate. Because like,
Starting point is 01:04:24 you think about about, well, when I was younger and didn't have kids and wasn't married and stuff, but shit, if you got naked and ran down the road, everyone loved that. It doesn't matter what you look like, it was just good fun. The naked body doesn't really
Starting point is 01:04:39 freak me out or think about doing it, but then I don't think women like being laughed at no we don't like people talking behind our backs about anything
Starting point is 01:04:50 or laughing or especially sharing like nudes and then yeah no no no your body is why do you get together and gossip about other girls then behind their backs
Starting point is 01:04:58 it's good stuff it feels good oh this is just not within the friend group oh really it's a sacred sometimes sometimes yeah Gemma just odd. Not within the friend group. Oh, really? It's a sacred sometimes. Sometimes, yeah. Gemma, what do you think?
Starting point is 01:05:08 Is the friend group, are they bad people for not telling them? Hi, guys. Yeah, I think they are. Because if I was this person, obviously they've got a little secret account to promote it, so they might be a little bit embarrassed about it. They obviously aren't promoting it on their main Twitter or haven't told their friends for a reason. So if I was doing something
Starting point is 01:05:32 like that and all my friends knew behind my back, I would definitely want to know. So I think they should tell them. Just have a little chat. Be like, hey, we found this. Yeah, I agree. Because it was obviously never meant for the friends. Yeah, exactly. But they found it. If it was, yeah, but he would have just been promoting it on his normal page if he didn't care.
Starting point is 01:05:53 There would be no way I could just tell a friend that we all know, like, if this was the situation for me. You'd just tell them one-on-one. No, no way. It's just a chill, like. Born or died. It would be a little bit awkward, but I would definitely want to just have, like,
Starting point is 01:06:08 especially if you guys are, like, close mates. Like, I would want to know. I'd be like, my dude, my dude, my dude, my dude. Let's talk turkey about your journey. Well, we ran a poll. Thanks, Gemma. We ran a poll on our FVM Instagram, FVMZM. Not a bad person, 63%.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Yeah. And bad person, 37%. Some comments that came through. He has the account for people to see. Bet he's probably not even phased that his friends know. That's the other thing. What's the reading on that? No, but it's not.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I agree. But, like, you should tell him because there's just this hidden, like, secret now between you. Just be like, hey, we all know that you've got that account. Nothing to be ashamed of. What if you've got a hotter mate who will swoop in and steal all your OnlyFans subscribers? Definitely say something if you're close mates. Nothing is off limit and you shouldn't be talking shit about them.
Starting point is 01:07:00 That's what somebody else said. Not a bad person. You should be well aware that people he knows might find or follow these accounts. Well, that's the thing. If you're going to put anything online, you've just got to assume that, don't you? Somebody said, I always wondered what it was like for people who got into adult movies and didn't maybe have everybody clued into it. And the first they hear about it is when they might see it themselves.
Starting point is 01:07:21 You'd tell everyone that you needed to know though, right? And then everyone else could just find out, however. Yeah. And then you get a message from your uncle who's like, I've just seen you on the internet. Regard me. Somebody said, yeah, all fun and games, have a laugh, but you should tell them that you all know.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Yeah, I agree. So there's no impending awkwardness or no sniggering behind their back when they're there. Yeah. Somebody said, the friends of the bad people sex work is valid work the friends gossiping about it are awful talk to him about it ask him about it yeah don't be awful when he's making uh the only fans money you'll be down for hangs good point yeah it's not the fact that he's got it right it's the fact that they're all like talking about it behind his back i don't know that's the thing i don't all talking about it behind his back. I don't know. That's the thing. I don't believe there's any shame in having it.
Starting point is 01:08:07 I don't want anyone to think that's what I'm laughing about. I just think it's funny when you can laugh at your mates. In a kind, respecting way. You're always there for them. But you mean it to no one. If you think about who you really tear to shreds, it's your closest friends. It's the New Zealand way.
Starting point is 01:08:22 It's terrible. If you roast someone, it means you love them, eh? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's not great. You guys love me. I'm saying it out loud.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Of course. Oh, say it, Fletch. Yep. All right, next on the show. He's saving that for someone special. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's 50k fact of the day. It's all thanks to Save My Bacon.
Starting point is 01:08:59 I've got a lot happening. Helping you borrow money online and growing your credit score at the same time. We're going to ask you a question today at midday and at 4 o'clock about this fact of the day. And thanks to Save My Bacon, $500 up for grabs each time. Now, if you don't believe that humans have ever been to the moon and you think the Earth's flat and you think it's all just, you can leave class early today. Sure.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Because today's fact of the day is about how much junk we've already left on the moon. How much do you think? I recommend two mini skips. Wait, how many times have people... Two gorilla bins. How many times... The soft-sided ones that you pull up as you fill?
Starting point is 01:09:38 No, the hard... Or do you want a hard skip? The hard, big ones. How many times have people been on the moon? Hey, a few times, right? What, seven, eight? Have we? What are they leaving behind?
Starting point is 01:09:49 A flag? Yeah, there's a flag there. It was July 20th, 1969, so 51 years. Nice. 51 years since the initial moon landing. Okay. How much do you think? Have a guess.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Weight. Weight. Don't give me your skip bin. Give me like a weight. A ton. 500 grams. Megan, that's a thing of butter. That's a block of butter, mate.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Oh, 500. What's half of a ton? 500 kgs. That's what I meant. Okay. Half a ton. 200 tons. Jeez.
Starting point is 01:10:21 So how do they weigh it? Because it doesn't weigh that much on the moon, right? There is a... Well, no, exactly't weigh that much on the moon, right? No, exactly, that's earth weight. Weighs one-sixth of that. Is that right? So there's 200 tons in what is called the lunar junkyard of objects
Starting point is 01:10:38 that humans put there. There's things like clapped out robots as described by NASA, by the way. They describe them as clapped out robots. Parts of spaceships. That moon buggy. You know the one where they drove it around? Technical equipment.
Starting point is 01:10:53 There's a javelin. Multiple bags of poo. Oh, yeah, because where do you put that? Multiple bags of poo. Question, do they have to weigh that down? The junk. There's no atmosphere, so there's no wind, so it wouldn't blow away. They should have to bring that back with them.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Well, no, they can't because it's all carefully calculated as to how much propulsion and stuff they need to get back to Earth. So it's best they don't. But what about the poop? They put the poop in a bag and they just put it on the ground. You know the people who go to the airport to pick up their dog's turd, but then they just leave it on the ground? You've done the grossest part. I was going tod, but then they just leave it on the ground? And you're like, you've done the heart,
Starting point is 01:11:27 you've done the grossest part. Yeah. I was going to say, why don't they put a rubbish bin there, but then... They would clean it out. Yeah. You'd be on the council trucks. You'd be on the moon, you'd hear the council truck coming in,
Starting point is 01:11:36 you'd be like... Do you put the bin out? Ah, shit. Just do one jump, it'll be quicker. It wasn't quicker. It went too high. It wasn't going forward quick enough. And now that...
Starting point is 01:12:04 You're missing... It didn't even stop! Does he come back down our road? Could we put it on the other side of the road? Just come back here. Get back. Bring the bin back. What is that?
Starting point is 01:12:24 That was a sulky sound. When you miss that, you know, then you're like, at some stage of the week, I'm going to have to stand in the wheelie bin. I'm going to have to climb up on a stool or a ladder and put both feet in the wheelie bin and hold on to something. I go... Packing it down, hearing like... Oh, gross.
Starting point is 01:12:51 So today's fact of the day is that even though we've never lived there and we've only visited, we've already left 200 tonnes of junk on the moon. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. It's been a study done. This was done in America, Baylor University. The research has been working on it for a little while, but they study overall, they study oxytocin. So they love hormone. Very important to your mental health and stuff. Often a lack of it can be a chemical imbalance.
Starting point is 01:13:36 It's very important. It's also the same chemical that your, this is for you. It's your body releases during labor. The happy one and It's your body releases during labor. The, like, happy, like. The happy one, and it floods your body, and they reckon that's one of the reasons why a woman who experienced the most pain, like, if you kick a dude in the balls, he's not, like, a year and a half later be like,
Starting point is 01:13:57 you know what we should do again? We should kick me in the balls again. But, you know, a woman experiences this horrendously painful whole childbirth thing, and then. That floods their body, and then they're like... That floods their body and they forget. We should do it again. So no matter how painful they tell you it is, it's always way worse.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Way worse. Great. That'll be why some of those people have 18 kids. Because of the oxytocin. Because their body just gets a lot of it. Oxytocin, yeah. So they studied this. This is the most interesting part about how they test your oxytocin levels
Starting point is 01:14:26 They ask you to empty your bladder Yeah So they're like Just when you next go wheeze You need to go wheeze Yeah And so they're like Oh hi
Starting point is 01:14:33 And then you have to drink a bottle of water Yeah And then they were asked a whole bunch of questions And apparently So this was done with kids of divorce. Yes. But this is just how they test oxytocin levels in anybody across the board.
Starting point is 01:14:49 This is probably the most fascinating part because I've heard them talk about it and I wonder how they tested. So you empty your bladder and then you drink a whole lot of water and then when you've drunk the predetermined amount of water based on your body size, etc.
Starting point is 01:15:02 You were then asked a series of questions. You had a whole lot of questions. In this case, it was a question about your childhood, what your situation was, how old you were, when your parents separated, if they separated, all about your current social situation, your mother's and father's parenting methods, who was affectionate, who was protective, was anybody overly controlling. And then they ask you about your confidence and your comfort with intimacy and do you need approval and all of these, you know, what's your relationship attachment style. And then they take a wee sample.
Starting point is 01:15:35 Yeah. And there's a level of oxytocin in there. Oh, wow. And that is what your levels are at. So apparently they ask questions to try to trigger like an emotional response. Right. And then that releases it into your system, also into your urine. And then they run it off the urine.
Starting point is 01:15:54 They can test it off the urine. Wow. I didn't know that. That's fascinating enough in itself. Right. So they did this test on a whole bunch of people, some of which had been, whose parents were still together, and some of which whose parents had been separated
Starting point is 01:16:09 when they were children. Yeah. And apparently the children whose parents separated, the average age of these kids were nine when their parents separated, had lower oxytocin levels. Right. And they said, not always.
Starting point is 01:16:23 It doesn't go without saying, like it's not a hard and fast rule but lower oxytocin levels can make it harder for individuals to form relationships of their own when they grow up and they just think it's all just what they went with and apparently when you're young if you go through extended parents uh sorry extended periods of anxiety yeah uh or stress as a kid it can affect your levels. And it's the same, they found the same results from children whose parents died when they were young. Right.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Because they had a lot of stress about it and a lot of anxiety about it. And it led to the same levels, the lowered levels of oxytocin when they were adults. Wow. That makes me worried though, like long levels of anxiety as we're currently in a pandemic. True.
Starting point is 01:17:07 This was done before. Yeah. All the research and stuff was done in 2018, 2019 and then they've put together the paper for release now. Right. Yeah, right. Extended periods of anxiety for kids. You think about what kids have been through in New Zealand alone.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Yeah. In the last, you know, like there was the Christchurch shooting March 15 and that was a lot for kids. Some kids, you know, didn't really know how to deal with that. Pandemic currently. There was the kids in the earthquakes in Christchurch in 2010 and stuff. In and out of school. Yeah, we think they're resilient.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Can you get this stuff in a bottle, like in the vitamins? Oxytocin. Yeah. Yeah, why don't they just bottle but they are. Can you get this stuff in a bottle, like in the vitamin zone? Oxytocin? Yeah. Yeah, why don't they just bottle it? Nah. Your body produces it. But isn't there a drug that can make it happen? But then you feel like rubbish on Tuesday?
Starting point is 01:17:55 An illegal drug? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what you're talking about. That just squeezes it all out of you, doesn't it? That's serotonin. That's serotonin. Oh, all right.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Okay. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. This is specifically for people in New Zealand who are and have booked with Airbnb. Right. So lots of people have been left out of pocket after they did book. Now, they are apparently refusing to refund bookings
Starting point is 01:18:25 made between or made after the 14th of March. So that includes when you come out, when we came out and we were in level one. Yep. Anything made during that time as well? Because what the problem was
Starting point is 01:18:42 people went away, wanted to go away and then level 2.5 and 3 happened again. Right. And they weren't able to get to their bookings in level 3. And so what? Wanted their money back. So yeah, in level 3. So I don't know how that works because they're saying there's extenuating circumstances.
Starting point is 01:19:04 There's that clause in there. But then I guess they're saying we knew that COVID was out and about. So it's your fault. So extenuating circumstances don't apply. They were happy to take the booking, knowing that COVID was out and about. But to be fair, in some examples, the host has refunded. Right. But then Airbnb has held onto its service fees,
Starting point is 01:19:25 which can still be quite a lot of money. Yeah, that can still be quite a bit, yeah. That's so cheeky. That's just going to make me not want to book with them. Yeah. Because are you thinking about like what you'll do for summer holidays and stuff over Christmas and that?
Starting point is 01:19:37 Are you thinking, oh, could do an Airbnb, but you don't want to book because it's still three and a half months away. Yeah. And you don't know what will happen. And you don't know what will happen. You know that Airbnb are not giving away. Yeah. And you don't know what will happen. And you don't know what will happen. And if you know
Starting point is 01:19:45 that Airbnb are not giving back, I mean, at best, you can get the host to... Don't you just find the address of the place and then Google that and just get in touch with the people directly
Starting point is 01:19:54 and say, what would you have made without Airbnb? But do the hosts enjoy that because there's a bit of... There's supposed to be a bit of security if you go through Airbnb.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Yeah. Nothing stopping you bringing your meth lab and then them not being able to find you again. Yeah, not everybody's got this face, this trust. Everybody's got this beautiful grin. They look at me and they're like oh yeah, let them have it at a discount. Absolutely
Starting point is 01:20:16 not. But I've found a lot of places like hotels and motels will do refundable bookings. Like cancellations up to 24 hours. Yeah. I'm not booking anything now without that. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:20:29 I kind of understand because, yes, we know this is going on, but if they want people to book, you have to give them an out because then it may still happen, whereas if you don't give them an out, no one's going to book. Yeah. So, I don't know, man. But, you know, Sade's booked a couple of things, but she said it's just like a refundable,
Starting point is 01:20:48 yeah, a refundable deposit. And it sits, but if we can't go, then you can cancel up to like, yeah, as you say, even that's got closer to the time because it used to be like within a week. Yeah. You're not getting your money back.
Starting point is 01:20:57 Or in a lot of places, wouldn't even give you the option of cancelling without losing the whole amount kind of thing, like Expedia and stuff. But like most of the stuff on there you can get a refund I think I'd be
Starting point is 01:21:07 of all the ones you can go to Airbnb would be one of the last ones I'd try like isn't there Booker Batch and
Starting point is 01:21:13 yeah they might have better and local as well yeah yeah they're locally owned companies so they know the situation
Starting point is 01:21:21 in New Zealand they just don't kind of have a blanket yeah worldwide policy like Airbnb probably does yeah
Starting point is 01:21:27 and if that is in their policy then legally I think they're yeah fine so yeah if you're booking
Starting point is 01:21:33 anything for summer or you know I don't want to be touted as a local business hero I don't want to be held up as the lighthouse
Starting point is 01:21:41 of sensible decisions supporting local but okay I'll do it yep support local sure but definitely I don't want to be held up as the lighthouse of sensible decisions supporting local. But okay, I'll do it. Yeah, support local. Sure. But definitely do some research before you book anything. Like make sure you've gotten out.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Yeah, for sure. Because it looks like some people have been stung a little bit there. ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. If you enjoyed this podcast, why not give ZM's Bree and Clint a listen too? Subscribe on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hit music lives here. ZM.

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