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And what a day.
Aunty Judy, Judith Crusher Collins is now the leader of the National Party.
She'll take on Aunty Cindy.
Two women, that's cool.
But not the first time in New Zealand politics.
1999, the general election saw Nationals Jenny the ship.
Auntie Jenny.
Who's actually your dad's cousin.
Something like that.
But we just call her Auntie Jenny.
I think you'd look the same as her in a power suit.
Thank you.
Authoritative.
A rich blue.
A rich blue power suit.
I saw her in Farmers.
Do you remember I told you I saw, I think I might have messaged you.
And didn't she look lovely?
She looked lovely, yeah.
But where's she up against?
She was up against Helen Clark in 1999.
And then she lost, didn't she?
She rolled the bulge, Jim Bulger.
Yep.
And became New Zealand's first female prime minister.
Not elect.
And then Helen Clark was the first female prime minister. Not elect. Not elect, yeah. And then Helen Clark was the first female prime minister.
I'm related to the first female prime minister.
Not elect.
I love that kids, Megan was saying kids teased her at school about that.
That's very savvy political teasing.
Not elect.
She didn't get elected.
She just fell into it.
So you'd be like, oh, I'm related to the prime minister.
And they'd be like, She's not the elected Prime Minister
We didn't choose her
She fell into it
She rolled the bulge
She rolled the bulge
Yeah
She budged the bulge
Let's get executive
Intern Anya
Producer Anya in
Because
You
Now you've got a connection
To the
Leader of the opposition
Judy Collins
Judy Collins
And my mum and dad
Used to work together
Back in the day
And how
Oh boy
I shan't have a bad word said
About Aunty Judith
The crushing yard
The car wreckers
Because that's how she got the name
Because of that boy racer bill
What was it you got two infringements and on the third they crushed the car.
You got your Primera crushed.
Oh, she crushed a few Sylvias.
Oh, she did, yeah.
You've had wines with Judy.
What?
She's just making shit up over there.
Didn't you go to the same wedding?
It was her parents' wedding.
She wasn't born.
She did a reading at my mum and dad's wedding.
She was at your mum and dad's wedding.
She was at your mum and dad's wedding.
She did a reading!
So like the Prime Minister, if she wins, went to your mum and dad's wedding.
And did a reading.
Like a tarot reading.
She was like, oh death card, that's great news actually.
I just remember when she walked past us at the airport Crusher Collins and it was a chill
It was like a wave
It was like a death march
Like there was a window open somewhere in the house
We should respect a woman that takes no shit
Oh yeah no she's
I don't get me wrong if I met her in person
I'd be terrified I wouldn't run my mouth whatsoever
I was just trying to be cute
Don't crush my
Actually do you think
She would crush my car
Probably
Can I get insurance
Yeah I know
Can I get insurance
If she crushes my car
The car is a right piece
She should
She should do a political ad
That's like her and a crusher
Yes
Crushing a car
And she's like
I'm crushing Cindy
And it's like
No don't do that
We don't need that sort of
Run into the election
I think this should be
A positive election
Don't come out swinging Saying we're gonna Smash Labour's face No, don't do that. We don't need that sort of run into the election. I think this should be a positive election.
Don't come out swinging saying we're going to smash Labour's face.
Tell me how you're going to make New Zealand a better place without doing poo-poos all over the opposition.
Positive campaign about forward thinking for this lovely country of ours.
Oh, that's so cute that in 2020 you think everything can be positive.
It's wild, isn't it?
It's a wild world we live in. Speaking speaking of my car as we just touched on it before
um you guys should come and have a look afterwards that light that fell out when I hit that tree last
week yeah I kept coming out every time I put on the brakes it would fall out right I've actually
jammed it in with some um blue sealant some sealant. I was just like.
And has it fallen out?
Nope.
Stuck in there nicely.
But the sealant's white and the car is black.
So it does look.
Oh, you didn't use translucent.
No, I didn't have any.
Do your children ride in that car?
You've only got a few more years before they're asking to be dropped off around the corner.
Can mum drop us off in her car?
Yeah. Can we take mum's car?
Et cetera, et cetera.
Yeah, but nah, it's not going great, the car.
Are you going to maybe look at getting a new one?
I'm contemplating it.
Right.
Like a secondhand one.
Oh, obviously, yeah.
Like a new to me car.
Yeah.
I was thinking something small, maybe electric, maybe a Nissan Leaf.
Those are really expensive.
I know. They're really expensive. I know.
They're really dear.
How long do the AA batteries last in those?
We have to plug it into the...
That's exactly how electric cars work.
Do you remember when, like, recharging batteries,
now everything plugs into a USB thing, right?
Yeah.
Like, even dildos and vibrators.
Yeah, that's weird because I would...
Yeah, it's just weird.
It's not a computer area thing, is it?
No, but...
Because you'd be working at your computer and then next door is a dilly.
And your dildo's like, bing, fully charged.
And you'd be like, oh, I was going to take a break now anyway.
So I'm just going to wear that battery down.
Yeah.
No, but remember when to recharge batteries,
you had to take them out of the thing that you were using them in
and put them in that gross thing that sat on the bench
and it would recharge AA batteries batteries or like the square batteries
when they're rechargeable oh what a time to be alive good time so you don't know what kind of
car you're gonna buy nah i haven't had a car for so what kind of car would i have if i had a car
i drove around your area last night i can see why you don't have a car what a fucking stupid idea it
was coming into the city i know why would you but i can see why you don't have a car. What a fucking stupid idea it was coming into the city. I know. Why would you?
I can see why you don't have a car. You need to have one of those
tiny wee BMW ones.
A smart car. Fucking ugly
tiny. Are they A-class Mercedes?
No, they're little
BMWs. They're tiny, tiny, tiny.
Have Larry David got them? No, Larry
David's got one on Cougar Enthusiasm.
One of those. One of those little wee cars.
Yeah, they're great. One of those little wee cars. Yeah. Yeah, they're great.
One of those little BMWs.
They look a bit like Larry David.
Are they electric or are they a hybrid?
I think, I don't know.
I don't know.
Fantastic.
Well, good luck in the car hunt.
Meow.
Meow.
It's not really, it's not a full hunt yet.
Right.
We'll just, until that light doesn't get a warrant because of the sealant.
So I looked into it. It's a secondary light. So it's a casual browse. Until that light doesn't get a warrant because of the sealant. So I looked into it.
It's a secondary light, so it's a fog light.
It doesn't need to go because your car legally doesn't have to have fog lights.
Oh, right.
Okay.
But in saying that, it will still go.
I just need to replace the bulb because I think the bulb got a bit rattled when I hit that tree.
You can't.
Okay.
Yesterday, the wing mirror fell off.
Oh, God.
I was driving. You need one of those for a warrant The fell off Oh god I was driving
You need one of those
For a warrant
I know
And I do have one
From a wreckers
It's the white one
That I was telling you about
The car is black
But no no no
I hadn't put it on yet
I was still driving
With the broken one
And I was driving
And I changed
The little electric
And I went up
And I was like
Oh yeah that's right
And then all of a sudden
It goes
On the motorway
So it's gone It's gone Oh my god Wow Luckily I was like, oh yeah, that's right. And then all of a sudden it goes. Oh, the motorway. And so it's gone.
It's gone.
Oh my God.
Wow.
Luckily I was in the left hand.
Did that cause an accident?
No, luckily I was in the left hand lane and it was the left hand mirror.
And so I just fell off to the side of the road.
Okay.
But it was so funny.
I was like, oh yeah, that's good.
Now I can sit behind me again.
That's great.
And then.
I looked in the rear view mirror and I just saw it flipping and cartwheeling down the side of the road.
Wow.
You can't see because you've got your back to them, but we're not even on air and you're getting a windmill wind up.
Oh, we've got other stuff to do.
We've got a brunch to go to.
Yeah.
Wrap it up, sweetheart.
All right, enjoy the podcast.
Good morning.
Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Good morning. Good morning. Three minutes past six. Good morning, welcome to the show, Fleets, Vaughan and Megan.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Three minutes past six.
Good morning.
We were just talking about chips and into my head popped...
Chips.
Like potato chips.
Yeah.
Into my head popped an absolute treat from the 1990s.
Do you remember Kiwi Sweet and Tangy Chips?
We always talk about this. Yeah. And the purple
bag. The purple bag. Yeah.
God, I love those. The purple bag. I can't
find...
They were so good. I can't find
evidence of their existence. They were
just pre-internet, eh?
But they know they went into the
2000s. No, they didn't. They
did. No, I remember Morrill's Intermediate
Canteen having them. Yep, they didn't. They did. No, I remember Morrill's intermediate canteen having them. Yep.
And two sizes.
It was pretty nuts to think you could buy a family size
bag of chips at an intermediate canteen.
I don't know if you can still do that.
But I do not remember them past
that.
Sweet and tangy. Where did you find that?
I'm pretty good at Googling. I just Googled
Kiwi sweet. Plus I told you it was pink,
not purple. Nah, those aren't the ones I'm thinking of.
They're absolutely the ones I'm thinking of.
I need to come for a closer look.
They're not the sticks.
No.
Well, because it was a stick rip-off.
The sticks were delicious too.
Nah.
Weren't they Kiwi brand as well?
Yeah.
No, it's not.
Yeah, that's them crisper.
It's crisper, yeah.
Oh, that was a good flavour.
What was it exactly?
Who owns crisper?
Just sweet and tangy.
I just think it's what we need to push through 2020.
We need a sweet and tangy chip, do we?
I don't even know if it's comparative,
if there's a comparative flavour these days.
Right.
I tried Cheetos.
I just remember them being amazing.
Right, Cheetos the other day, because they've come here.
Cheetos.
Cheetos, Flaming Hot.
Yeah, Flaming Hot.
They were all right.
Yeah.
But then they leave your fingers kind of pink, pinky red.
Where did you get it from?
In the supermarket.
Oh, God.
Well, nobody buy the party bag on Mighty Ape.
Apparently, there's one on here.
It's a party bag of Cheetos.
For $60.
How many for Cheetos?
For $12.
Even at that? That's expensive. What's that? $ 12. Even at that.
That's expensive.
What's that, $5 a bag?
Yeah.
And that's not a huge bag either.
Well, great to start the show with chips.
Yeah, I just want a sweet and tangy chip bag.
Delicious chips.
Man, they were good.
The top six is coming up and the police.
Yeah, the police are driving Holden Equinoxes now.
They've got a new fleet.
I saw one of these the other day, a white one,
and it had the little lights in the grill.
It wasn't painted like a police car.
They have 10 aerials, because you can always tell they have lots of aerials.
Yeah, no, they don't have too many aerials.
So they've got 25 of these, and they're new undercover cars to catch speeders.
Because I guess it's a car that you'd never be seen in a police detour.
Yeah, it looks like a mum mobile.
The mum wagon, doesn't it?
You put the kids in the back.
Yeah.
The shopping lots are in for the groceries.
Well, the top six is the top six other mum wagons that would make great police cars.
Right.
Because, you know, if mum needs to really put her foot down.
She can. Oh, she can.
Oh, she can.
But she won't.
She's conserving petrol.
Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast.
ZM.
We were just reminiscing moments ago about chips.
Yep.
Biggins, tangy biggins.
Those are the ones I was trying to remember.
Those are the ones I want to bring back.
Those were shit hot.
The thing I like about the biggins is some were hard and some were soft.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
I prefer the hard ones.
Did you prefer the hard ones?
I like the soft powdery ones
that you went
and they just went
great.
And crisper corn chips
are another one.
You put them on your tongue
and they,
I guess they were just deep fried
and predominantly fat
and they'd pop
and like melt
and stick to your tongue
and the salt and vinegar ones
would burn.
Those were the good days.
Well, it's election year and I'm just saying...
Well, I've gone to Bluebird's Facebook page,
but it doesn't look like you can post on their wall.
So they're obviously cheating on their partner.
If Crusher Collins wants my vote,
she's going to have to bring back Biggins, Tangy or Cindy,
any of them.
I'll even vote for David Seymour if he brings back Biggins.
Jokes, guys, jokes.
That's how much I feel passionately about Tangy Biggins.
Those chips.
Well, the New Zealand police are costing us a bloody fortune in phones.
I'll tell you that much.
130 police cell phones have been lost or stolen
and more than $500,000 spent on fixing damaged phones.
What kind of phones are they rocking?
iPhones.
Apparently some relatively high iPhone repair costs in New Zealand
could be responsible for some of the bills.
So they're not obviously going to that guy that works out of the wardrobe
on Queen Street that will replace the screen for life.
I don't think you should be handing over
your sensitive police
phone with sensitive data on it.
Oh, I didn't even think about that. Where else are they taking it?
Well, they probably have to go to a
proper place
that's like authorised by Apple.
Oh, right, to get that repair.
Oh, I don't think they're any better. They'll be having
a snoop through your pics.
Your photos. Probably.
132 were lost from mid-2017 to the end of last year.
Right.
And that cost more than $80,000,
averaging just over $600 per phone.
Because you get a phone when you're a police ossifer,
and they give you it, and it's got the big cover on it.
The big grunty case. The big, you know, and it's got the big cover on it. The big grunty case.
The big, like, you know, like,
builder's head.
Tractor tyre cover.
Yeah.
So if you drop it,
it just boing, boing.
Unless, of course, it...
My dad ran over his cell phone
with a tractor,
just when you see a tractor tyre.
He ran it over,
fell out of his pocket,
fell off the tractor,
went under the tyre,
went under the
silage wagon's tyre too.
And it was sweet.
It was okay.
And did he have one of those
big booty cases on it?
He didn't have too booty a case on it.
It was a soft mud.
Well, it got pushed into the ground, but he said it wasn't soft ground.
He was sure it would have broken.
Wow.
That could be an ad for a mobile phone.
People would buy that.
He's a Samsung.
No, no.
He's a Samsung man.
Okay.
He's a Samsung man.
Well, great.
That's a great advertisement for the Samsung. Yeah. Well, he's a Samsung man. Okay. He's a Samsung man. Well, great. That's a great advertisement for the Samsung.
Yeah.
Well, it survived quite the thrashing underneath her.
So I don't know, maybe we need to get in touch with the police
and get them one of these cases that Dad's got.
It would be so easy, though, if you're like, oh, my phone's a bit slow.
Like, oh.
Chuck it in the heart of your bloody criminals.
And then they're like, like well we've got a
brand new iPhone 8
and you're like
I was trying to get
an upgrade
my last one was an 8
I wanted 10
well you'll know
how to use it
or an 11
or whatever you're up to
okay yeah
now give it here
bloody criminals
ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan
the podcast
we often talk about
how the queen
loves a gin.
Yes.
Does she have a gin for breakfast or is it lunch?
Lunchtime gin, I think.
Lunchtime gin.
I'm going to Google her drinking schedule.
Okay.
God, we've Googled that so many times on this show.
You should know that by now.
Four cocktails a day.
Are they all gin cocktails?
Like a gin sunrise?
Gin.
I've got to read this.
It's not broken down easily.
Okay.
So the Palace, the Royal Collection Trust,
they are launching a dry gin with stuff that's handpicked
from the Queen's London residence.
Her botanicals.
Yeah.
They're plucking her botanicals.
It's going to be served at events at the palace
but it's also gone on sale through
the Royal Collection Trust.
You'll pay $70
for a 700ml
bottle. It's not that expensive.
It's up there.
Considering they're picking stuff
from her garden.
What are they picking from her garden?
Does she have a juniper hedge?
No, I don't think it doesn't mention juniper berries from her garden.
Okay.
It's derived from 12 botanicals.
There you go.
Yep.
Lemon verbena, hawthorn berries, bay leaves and mulberry leaves are from her garden.
The Buckingham Palace garden.
Maybe a bit of fennel and some gorse.
She wouldn't have any gorse.
Yeah, she wouldn't have any gorse.
Mind you, in England, gorse isn't what it is here.
It is more of a hedge.
Is it?
Yeah.
It was brought to New Zealand.
They were like, well, this is a great hedge back home.
I mean, I don't know if you've followed colonialisation,
but there was a lot of this hit and miss guessing
on how things were going to go in a completely different climate.
Like stoats, rabbits, possums, the whole shebang, rats.
Right.
I see what they do.
But yeah, they brought gorse to New Zealand.
They brought gorse to New Zealand, sorry,
and planted it and it just went bananas.
And they were like, oopsie.
And now you can go for a drive anywhere
and see the beautiful yellow flowers of gorse.
But you can use gorse in gin, right?
I don't know.
I was just joking.
I thought it was, yeah.
Does it taste, what does it taste like?
I don't know.
Prickles.
I think it was like a gimmicky gin.
Because you know that's all gin is just flavoured vodka.
I found that out two minutes ago when you told me.
Yeah.
I was so angry.
Oh, the great gin con.
Well, it's not a con.
It's not.
It shouldn't be called gin.
It should just be called
flavoured vodka.
But it's changed enough
to make it something
completely different though.
Well, it's added a
a gin and a...
No, gin tastes
way better than vodka.
Yeah, I agree.
A good vodka doesn't taste.
A good vodka will just slip, slop.
To be fair, I probably haven't tried a good vodka
because it tarnished when you're a teenager.
Yeah, with Christoph.
And also it's way more expensive.
Yeah.
So you always go for the cheap bodies.
So the Queen has a gin pre-1130,
a glass of wine and a piece of chocolate for lunch.
Wait, is that all she has for lunch?
Or is that her treats?
Her treats.
And in the evening, she'll do a dry martini.
Yeah, girl.
Closer to two drinks because she does the Dubonnet cocktail.
And finally, a glass of champagne before bed.
Yeah, we've definitely talked about this several times.
Yeah, multiple times.
The Queen's drinking schedule.
But hey, and how old is she now? 90. 93. There you times. Yeah, multiple times. The Queen's drinking vigil. But hey, and how old is she now?
90.
93.
There you go.
Yeah.
Good Lord.
Oh, the bottle's pretty.
I don't know what it tastes like.
That's actually the number one reason people buy booze, right?
Put it on my drink trolley.
They find the bottle aesthetically pleasing.
Yeah.
Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast.
ZM.
Study's been done out of the United States
with a lot of people too,
looking at a lot of people,
surveying a lot of people.
And it has found that people who refuse to wear a mask
or comply with social distancing,
and this is a big problem in America,
it's become a political issue.
Like if you're a Trump supporter,
if you're on the right.
See, he wore a mask.
He wore a mask he wore a mask
and he was like
I've never been against them
it's a wild ride
yeah isn't it
it is a wild ride
there's a time and a place for them
but I've never been against them
yeah
okay
sure
well it's found that
people that refuse to wear a mask
or comply with social distancing
have lower cognitive ability.
What's that?
So, um...
Brain function.
The irony.
That was, I like that.
You were just joking around.
Is that just brain function?
Yeah, basically.
Yeah.
They're dumb.
What's that?
So, researchers found that
whether or not an individual
decides to follow social distancing
depends on how much information their working memory can store,
which determines mental abilities such as intelligent.
So the team discovered those with more working memory
were more likely to comply with recommendations during the early stage of the outbreak.
Right.
And so those that don't have a lot of ability Just dumb basically
And therefore
Couldn't make up their mind
You know to wear a mask
It's just not hard though
If someone
No
A scientist or someone who knows
Tells you something
You're like okay
I'll wear a mask
People who buy into
This is just my personal
opinion, I will label it as such.
But the people I've seen who have been
buying into conspiracy
stuff, the whole
COVID's a fraud, the whole
Bill Gates wants to vaccinate you because he wants
to put a microchip in.
The COVID test is implanting
a tracking chip in you.
All of the people that bought into that stuff,
they're the sort of people that always thought
that they were a lot smarter than they actually were.
Like they were the ones that have been like,
school wasn't for me.
And like not everybody who said school wasn't for them
falls into this category.
But a lot of people are like, school's not for me, man,
because I'm not like buying into this like mainstream education, man.
I'm smarter than this. I'm smarter than this. I'm not like buying into this like mainstream education. Man, I'm smarter than this.
I'm smarter than this.
I'm open to possibilities.
And they're not.
Just a bit dumb.
But that was like, all of them seem to have that in common.
Like they believe that they were smarter.
Yeah, right.
Than the smarter people.
School wasn't for me.
No, no.
But you don't also. I don't believe in 5G conspiracies.
Yeah, and you're fully vaccinated, which is great.
It's fantastic news.
Which is really great.
But yeah, good to know that there's some scientific backing there.
Not that scientific backing.
They won't believe it anyway.
They don't want to believe that.
Nah.
Flesh, Vaughan and Megan.
The podcast.
ZM.
From the ZM Think Tank, this is the top six.
Hello there.
The police have a new fleet of vehicles.
They are holding equinoxes.
I saw one of these pulled someone over the other day.
I was like, mum?
Mum's a cop?
Mum's gone rogue.
She's a vigilante.
I think I rented one of these one weekend from like a rental.
They're like zippy and stuff.
They don't have to be zippy.
That's what you want.
But plenty of boot space.
Not the kind of car you'd think would be an undercover cop car.
Like it's like a mini kind of an SUV, isn't it?
But is that the vibe that kind of they can hide better?
Because everybody sees
a Commodore on steel wheels
with a couple of aerials
and they're like,
undercover cop.
Yeah, you know.
It's almost a race
to see who can say it quickest.
Yeah.
Although, do you remember
when they changed out
the vans for the speed cameras?
That got me for a little while
because they went to like
Hyundai's or something.
Yeah.
Some real like sleek looking.
You'd be like,
well, that's not an Otis. Yeah. They look like a tradies something. Yeah. Some real like sleek looking. You'd be like, well, that's not an Otis.
Yeah.
They look like a tradies van.
Yeah.
And they just parked on the side of the road.
You're like, oh, what's that tradie up to?
You're like, oh, the guy from Fisher and Paykel's pulled over to replenish his hoses or something.
And you'd be like, oh, no, it's a speed camera.
Yeah.
Damn it.
Trying to catch us going too fast.
I mean, yeah, we shouldn't be speeding.
That's the message, isn't it?
That's the number one takeaway from this.
But we are looking into for the top six,
the top six mum wagons that would make great police cars
because maybe this is the key going forward.
Number six on the list, a Nissan Qashqai.
Qashqai. Isn't it just Qashqai. Qashqai.
Isn't it just Qashqai?
Is it?
Yeah.
Nissan Qashqai.
Are they those curvy ones?
No, they're not too because Nissan is the home of the wacky car,
the curb, the snail, all of those.
Now, this is like a small SUV-esque situation.
Right.
But, you know, as you said, zippy.
Zippy, zippy.
Gosh, it's zippy.
I push in this button and away I go.
Number five on the list of the top six mum wagons
that would make great police cars is the Toyota Previa.
So much room for criminals back there.
And you could also whack a speed camera in the boot
and have yourself a dual-purpose vehicle.
And don't they have curtains?
Some of them have curtains.
Be good for privacy.
For the criminals.
For the criminals.
Pull the curtains for the criminals.
The lie-down Previas have the curtains, yes.
Number four on the list of the top six mum wagons
that would make great police cars,
Mazda 2s.
My mum's got one of those.
And I tell you what,
they're zippy.
Zippy and great for parking.
I don't know if you could get
a criminal once they went
over 110 though.
Well, they shouldn't be
going over 110.
You should be abandoning
the police chase at that stage.
Oh, really? Okay.
But you shouldn't be afraid
to light them up
in the little Mazda 2.
Imagine if a little Mazda 2 was trying to pull you over.
You'd think it was a joke.
But, like, you know, in European movies,
whenever there's, like, a French police chaser and a Italian one,
and they're always, like, little Fiat's or little Peugeots,
and they're like, ee-oo, ee-oo, ee-oo, me-oo.
It's because they've got little wee streets and they need to be like
They're always cute those police cars
Yeah, it would be like that. That would be the Kiwi
version of that. A Mazda 2
Number 3 on the list of the
top 6 mum wagons that would make great
police cars and also this one would be great for
getting all the lads to the
social police seven-a-side
touch in summer is the Kia
Carnival.
Oh, okay.
It's a big, huge people mover.
Right, okay.
It's got a good mum wagon.
I think it's got about capacity for 10.
Oh, fantastic.
Yeah, so that'll be great. Good for the touch, Sam.
Number two on the list of the top six mum wagons that would make great police cars,
the Hyundai Santa Fe.
Oh, yeah.
Good for the family, that one.
They're everywhere.
Yeah.
We've got one.
It's got a light that won't work.
Right.
And I was like, well, obviously, you know,
have you ever replaced the headlight in a car?
Yeah, you've got to take it to the person.
You take the back thing out.
Oh, I took it to the person.
Yeah, I was like, I've done it myself.
You get the bulb from Super Cheap or Repco or whatever,
and you pull the thing out the back, and the bulb from Super Cheap or Ripco or whatever,
and you pull the thing out the back, and the bulb's there,
and then you take it out and you plug it back in.
This thing's a bloody, I don't know how we're going to change it.
It's not a headlight.
It's a line of LEDs.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, right.
What a nightmare.
What a bloody nightmare.
But then I imagine the police would take that out anyway and put a red and a blue in there. The person. The auto electrician. Take it to the person. But then I imagine the police would take that out anyway and put like a red and a blue in there.
The person.
The auto electrician.
The auto electrician.
Take it to the person.
Take it to the person.
It's their job.
It does the thing.
It's their job, Megan.
I'm not going to touch the car.
I don't know how to do anything.
You don't want to deprive them of that.
Exactly.
And number one on the list of the top six mum wagons
that would make great police cars,
this is for the Bogan mums, the Holden Commodore.
Oh, wait. Yeah, that's already, yeah.
That's currently a police car.
I'm surprised the Ford Focus wasn't on this list.
That is an absolute classic mum car.
I suppose it would be in there with the Mazda 2.
The Mazda 2, yeah.
Small and zippy.
Yeah.
With power when it needs it.
Yeah, that is today's top six.
Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
ZM.
COVID-19 has had a positive
effect on the way we eat.
There's four ways it has been
positive. Okay.
The first one is family meals are making a comeback.
Now,
the study has revealed that 30
to 35% of families
eat fewer than three meals a week
together. And it's not just dinner.
It could be anything, breakfast, lunch, dinner.
Wow.
We can always eat together if we're, like, dinners every night.
And then on the weekends, yeah, like lunches and stuff. Yeah, but it'd be weird if you and your wife just went out
and you were just like, oh, we're going out for dinner, guys.
No, but it means, I'm imagining it means, like,
you just sit wherever, right?
Like, someone could be eating in front of the TV.
Someone could be like at the table.
And like eat at different times.
Yeah, right.
And then it'd be hard if like one of the parents works late.
But apparently it's really good for children especially.
Eating together as a family helps them with self-esteem and success in school
and it lowers the risk of depression and childhood obesity
just by having three or more dinners together a week.
Nutritionists have said it doesn't have to be,
you can just make a simple meal.
You can get takeout and just eat it together as well.
It's not so much the focus on what the food is.
It's just being together.
Right.
So that's happening a lot more,
obviously, because everyone's been in lockdown.
Eating more plant-based foods.
So meat shortages have kind of been...
Oh, meat shortages, right.
Yeah, around the world.
Because I was going to say, why?
I would have thought it would have ended up people would have been eating a lot of, like,
I don't know, supermarket meals, like frozen stuff.
Has it...
I kind of thought it would make people eat, like, unhealthily.
But maybe people have had more time to focus on being healthier.
And you're locked inside, so you're like, well, I'll put some effort into dinner
because what else am I going to do?
I'll cook something.
I'll cook something.
Yeah.
So a lot of people are eating more vegetarian-ish.
Right.
And you don't have to take meat out.
Some nutritionists are saying like if you're using chicken or whatever,
just use a little bit less and add some beans.
Yep.
Or choose a smaller steak and add another veggie
just to reduce how much meat you're eating.
Yeah, I feel that was targeted at you, Vaughn.
I wasn't listening.
We're baking more for ourselves.
Didn't you just make some cookies last night?
Yeah.
I definitely am baking more.
I baked so much during lockdown.
I was like, I've got to stop this.
Because I'm just like, it's actually easier than you think.
Yeah, but it's like also easier to demolish the lot after you've made it, right?
I know, but you still buy cookies anyway.
It's like, you might as well just make them yourself and then you know what's in them.
Right.
It's too confronting doing home baking because, you know, when you buy a block of butter from the supermarket and then you're
following the recipe and you have to put half of that block of butter in.
Yeah.
And then you pour.
Oh, I thought butter was bad for us.
I find if I make it myself, I know what's in it and then I don't eat as much.
Nah, that doesn't work for me.
Whereas if you just buy it from the supermarket, you're just like,
nom, nom, nom.
You don't think about it and you don't know what's in it.
You don't see them at the Squiggles factory
pouring in bags of sugar.
Yeah.
Because literally when I was making those cookies yesterday,
I was like, oh my God, there's so much butter.
I know.
So much butter.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yum, eh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So yum.
And we're buying locally.
Sometimes because people are forced to,
but also because we've been told to,
like support local, support small business.
Make sure you go out there and buy local takeaways. Even local, like, support local, support small business, make sure you go out there and
buy local takeaways.
Even local, like here, local potatoes.
So important to eat
potatoes we grow here. Well, yeah, because apparently there are
some foreign spuds.
Oh, no. Coming over. Yeah.
Yeah. Because there's been so
many... Immigrantatoes.
Yes, immigrantatoes.
Because there's excess of potatoes because they haven't been eating as many.
Yeah, we haven't been able to export them, right?
So we've got to buy what we've got here.
Support local.
How do you tell if you've got a local potato?
I don't know.
It's like, what's up?
What's up?
It's like, bonjour.
Yeah, if it says bonjour, then it's definitely a Belgian.
Frenchy Belgian potatoes.
Yeah, right, nice. Actually, just on that, eating locally says bonjour, then it's definitely a Belgian. Frenchy Belgian, taters. Yeah, right, nice.
Actually, just on that eating locally, the UK,
there's a new government-initiated slogan to help business in the UK.
It's called Help Local, Eat Out.
Eat Out, Help Local.
That's good.
And everybody said it.
Eat Out, Eat Local. They've been saying it a lot. It said it, eat out, eat local.
They've been saying it a lot.
It's important to eat out, people said in Parliament.
No one had even smirked.
Yeah.
Which I thought was either they're not getting it.
I don't get it.
Oh, that's loose.
That's real loose.
I've had three people, international listeners,
Eat out, eat local.
Three people send that in being like,
maybe are we Kiwis?
Laughing very immaturely.
That's loose.
Grow up.
I've heard from various people.
I was going to change it to make it worse.
Is it a Kiwi thing that we find this so funny?
Because they're saying it all the time over here,
and every time they do, I laugh.
And no one else is.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Eat out to help out.
Right.
That's another one that they're talking about, you know,
if you can go out and help local restaurants and stuff,
otherwise they might not survive COVID.
Eat out to help out.
I did not get that at all.
Neither.
I don't know what you're talking about.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
Even well, if you're just waking up and you didn't hear the news last night,
Crusher Collins, Judith Crusher Collins,
is the new leader of
the National Party after the shock
resignation, what, about 24 hours ago
of Todd Muller.
Stepping down, surprising everybody.
Christchurch residents will be stoked to hear the
deputy is Gerry Brownlee, who did a fantastic
job in all aspects of the earthquake
recovery.
Facetious.
What I wanted to talk about, yesterday, Todd Muller, Cut. Facetious.
What I wanted to talk about,
yesterday,
Todd Muller,
after 53 days as the leader of the opposition,
was like,
this isn't for me.
Health reasons,
undisclosed health reasons,
but,
I mean,
you've got to look after your health.
He's got a wife,
he's got children,
he's got to put those people
in his life first.
Yep.
But,
I was wondering,
he said, when he first became leader of the opposition, it's been his dream since he was was wondering, he said when he first became
leader of the opposition,
it's been his dream
since he was a kid.
He wanted to be
the Prime Minister of New Zealand.
This was his dream
coming to fruition.
Because when people
were going at him
for having that
Make America Great hat,
he's like,
I'm just a political junkie.
I've been to all these rallies
in America.
I love it.
This was my dream.
This was his,
everything he wanted.
That was right.
His dream was to be the president of the USA,
but then when he found out that that couldn't happen
because he wasn't born there, he was like,
well, I've got to be the prime minister of New Zealand.
That's my dream.
And he'd worked in the private sector.
He got into politics.
He was like, this is my dream.
And then he had a taste of what it was like
being top dog of the opposition 53 days in.
And it took such an effect on his health
that he was like, I'm out.
And it is unusual. Well's not unusual, but it is when somebody is so single minded on what their dream is going to be or something they want. Yeah. And then they get it. It's not always
cracked up to what they thought it was going to be like. The reality is set in and you're like,
this actually is not fun. I knew people at school that were like, lawyer, that's my dream.
I'm going to be a lawyer.
I'm going to be this, that.
And then they finish their qualification, they do their internship
and they're like, this sucks.
It's so much reading and it's boring.
And I'm getting treaded like dirt.
And I don't have a yacht yet.
I know.
I've been here six weeks.
Where's my yacht?
And they end up leaving and just be like, no, I need a job
where I actually see the
people I love and get to have
this miraculous thing called free time.
I respect him for it because
our political views don't align,
but what a great example to set
for the men of New Zealand. If you're struggling
health-wise or whatever,
or you're not into it,
you can step away.
That's a great example to set.
Very true.
Yeah.
We wanted to open the phone lines now and ask if you've ever had one of those moments in life
where you got something that you always wanted, that you always thought you wanted.
Yes.
And then you get there and it's not what it's cracked up to be.
The reality sucks.
Yeah. And maybe it was like you said, studying something
and becoming a lawyer or getting that dream job,
and then you get it, and you're like, oh, no, no, no, no, no.
This is not the dream job.
Yeah.
Maybe it was something that you saved up for,
that, you know, you were single-minded, and you were saving,
and, no, I'm going to go without that, and I'm going to go without that.
I'm going to buy this.
This is going to be my thing.
And then you bought it and you're like, I've missed out on all of that.
Like a Jaffel maker.
You think, I'm going to use this all the time.
I'm going to make so many Jaffels.
I'm going to make so many waffles or toasted sandwiches.
And I've made four toasted sandwiches.
That's actually true for me.
But that was a lockdown purchase because I got cravings for toasted sandwiches.
And how often has it been used?
See, I've been worried because I had half a can of corn leftovers.
I had to use that.
I'd be worried if I had a toasted sandwich maker.
I'd just be eating nothing but everything I usually eat.
I know.
It was so good.
It was so carb heavy.
Oh, yeah.
But no real regrets there.
No.
You know, but that's on the smaller end of things.
So I want to talk now and open up the phone lines and texts
for those moments when you dreamed of having something,
something you always wanted, and then you got it
and it just wasn't what it was cracked up to be.
Yeah.
Like Todd Muller's dreams of being the Prime Minister of New Zealand.
Turns out relentless media scrutiny and hounding
is not all it's cracked up to be.
And if you come out swinging, people swing back.
Yeah.
So, well, good on them, as we said before, for saying, you know, health reasons and stepping down.
You've got to put your health first because if you don't have that, you've got nothing.
Because you're dead.
My mum always says that.
If you don't have your health, you don't have anything.
It's very true, though.
It's kind of true, though.
It is.
It's some great mum wisdom.
That's for sure.
So we'll take some calls now.
Tash.
Good morning.
Tash or Tash?
Tash.
Tash.
No one in New Zealand is called Tash.
No, I don't know.
There's no R in there.
So I'm like, is it Tash or Tash?
Tash.
Tash without the R.
What did you always want?
So I always wanted to be a radio broadcaster.
Oh, okay.
Well, that's a great job and I can see why.
So during high school, I did heaps of extra credits.
I actually had my own radio station,
kind of radio station on our local little Westport radio station as well.
Okay.
Got in, did it for a couple of years, worked for ZM for a while actually.
Oh, great.
God, were we the straw that broke the camel's back?
Did Voughton yell at you on the car park?
It was before I say.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The dark days.
So I got in for a while and then just kind of decided something was missing.
So went to university and said...
Happiness.
Money.
Yeah, money.
Well, I'm actually a psychologist now.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
That would be quite rewarding too, wouldn't it?
Oh, I wouldn't change it for the world. I love the people that I work with.
Right, so you still enjoy the talking, but there's also the listening.
Oh, yeah, which is kind of good.
Yeah, that's what I was missing.
Do you set your patience?
All right, that's all for now.
Next week, let's delve into your inner psyche.
Make sure you join us.
Stay tuned.
Stay tuned.
Yeah, it's a good one.
Tash, thank you for sharing.
Hamish, what did you always want?
Well, I had a friend that I was in the friend zone for for a long time,
a childhood crush.
Yep.
And then one night I was finally able to go there,
and I'm like, well, this is what I've wanted for years.
This is going to be the best thing ever.
Yep.
And it just wasn't.
I can feel the heartbreak.
It just wasn't.
Bad deed, as you say.
Bad everything.
Bad everything.
Oh, no.
It just didn't click.
No, it didn't click.
But I'm a man.
I towered through, finished the deed,
and kept the friendship, you know?
Yeah, okay, you're right.
I love this, guys.
Wow, okay.
Because imagine, like, you just want someone so bad, and then you finally, yeah, that's...
Get together in life.
But now it's the thing, if you've been living in your imagination...
Yeah, they're perfect.
Through rose-tinted lenses for that long, and then you, you know, nobody's perfect.
Yeah.
Emma, what did you want so much you finally got it
it was just not what it was cranked up to be?
I wanted to move to London for my OE.
Yeah.
And I hated it.
What did you hate about it?
Well, I went with a job.
I'm a teacher, so I went with a teaching job,
and they said I could work every day.
So I'd get up every day and get ready for work,
and I'd never get my phone calls.
I think I worked 25 days in five months.
So I had no money to enjoy London.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
I thought you'd just been led astray by Bridget Jones
because that doesn't get the weather of London right, that movie.
No, it doesn't at all. Yeah London right, that movie. No, no.
No, it doesn't at all.
Yeah, a lot of green. Very grey.
Yeah, some text messages.
Somebody said, I mean, I've never been, I can't speak to this,
but somebody said, I always dreamed of a trip to New Caledonia.
What a shithole.
Oh, my God.
That was their big dream.
They always wanted to go there.
And then they went there and it wasn't that great.
What about the person dreaming of being a chartered accountant?
Yeah, they said since they were 15,
their dream was to be a chartered accountant.
That's different.
Did one paper.
It was so miserable.
I ended up failing on purpose just so I could get out of it.
Who was telling them amazing stories about being a chartered accountant
that they had these rose-tinted glasses?
There's no feeling
like balancing a sheet
Was it that
Ben Affleck
movie maybe
The Accountant
The Accountant
That really
over glamorised
the industry
I feel
Yeah
Because mob
accountants and
stuff and like
the Sopranos
they always look
to be living it
pretty sweet
Flesh Warner
Megan
The Podcast
ZM
Warning
The following
program contains
sexual discussion.
About sex.
Maybe if there are kids in the car, just tap out for five minutes.
Yeah.
Or tell them to earmuffs for five minutes,
because this is actually going to be really interesting.
Yeah, it will be.
There's been a direct study that's revealed more than half of Kiwis
would rather give up sex for three months
than sacrifice Netflix, TV or your phone.
So we've brought in trained sexologist Morgan Penn.
Good morning.
Good morning, beautiful humans.
Now, men are a little less guilty of this than women.
Any surprises there?
No.
Not for me.
Nope.
Sometimes, you know, you find a great show,
you want to finish it, don't you?
Oh, come on.
I wasn't speaking for myself.
There's plenty of time for both.
Yeah.
Well, the way you do it, I'm sure there is.
But some of us like to take our time.
Yeah, right.
We'll try to.
Other things happen.
So what's the, is it that bad?
Is it that bad that people have just got a new obsession?
Well, I think we're all looking for escapism.
We're living these fast-paced lives.
We're not connecting properly with people.
We're not taking the time to really like connect and digest
and ask how they are and touch each other.
You know, we're so consumed by this thing in our hand
and we think that we're connecting with lots of people and we're not.
And I think authentic connection can be really hard these days, you know,
and a lot of people want fast-paced everything,
quick fixes to a good sex life, quick fixes to, you know, getting to sleep,
finishing a series on Netflix. I mean, it's just, yeah, we're living in a weird
time where people just aren't making that effort or commitment to connecting and having
a good sex life.
So how do you fix that when it comes to people's sex lives?
People need to prioritise, right? They need to decide,
okay, we want to connect
and we want to have a good sex life.
And then,
so they need to put the devices down.
Like, the issue is,
if you're going to sleep
next to somebody every day
and the last thing that you touch
is your phone,
you've got a problem.
You know?
That's not me.
Wow, when you put it like that.
That's not me.
We don't do phones
in the bedroom very much.
Awesome. Well, because some people have that rule, don't they, do phones in the bedroom very much awesome well because some
people have that rule don't they with phones in the bedroom you might plug them in away from the
bed yeah so that you can't touch it when you're in bed or even just leave it charging outside
like in the lounge like a boomer in the pantry right yeah yeah where the wi-fi can't get you yeah
sure then you wouldn't hear your alarm it'll be down in the pantry. But no, that's really interesting
because, yeah, my wife,
well, she's like,
it helps me relax before I go to sleep.
Sex.
No, being on her phone.
But I'd imagine that would actually chemically
It would do the same thing, surely.
be far more truthful.
Well, yeah, exactly.
And the thing is,
because we're living these fast-paced, stressful lives,
we're filled of cortisol
and we're sort of sitting in our sympathetic nervous system, which is the fight or flight mode, which is where we need to actually at the end of the day, de-stress and get ourselves into our parasympathetic nervous system, which is where we're breathing low into our belly and our nervous system's fully relaxed and you don't get that through being on technology. You get that through either
your own breathing or your own connection
with your body or with somebody else.
That's the easiest way to downregulate your
nervous system. Right, so
we're living more now in our fight or
flight is what you said. Yeah. So we're
just ready to pounce.
Absolutely. And that makes
us more stressed? Yeah, because back in our
primal days, you know, cavemen,
we had that fight or flight for a reason
because we had predators coming at us occasionally.
And so we have perceived stress these days
because our body doesn't understand why we're not under attack.
So they think that's what it, our body thinks that's what it is.
So our work stress, demands of family, kids,
that's what we use as stress now.
And we're just sitting in that place.
We're not using any kind of strategies to de-stress
and keep ourselves relaxed.
Because a lot of people would say, like, for me,
it's watching Keeping Up With The Kardashians
or something like Mindless.
That's how I de-stress as well.
But that's not doing that.
I mean, that would be.
That would be in some respect,
but it's not getting down into the like
heavy duty stuff.
So,
I mean, it would be different for
everybody, but how many,
how much should the average adult be
having sex a week?
Well, I mean,
for like a couple.
Let's put a number on it.
No, we're not putting a number on it
We don't want anybody to feel like they're abnormal
Okay right okay
So should couples decide amongst themselves
Because you hear about people saying
Wednesday night it's happening
But does that take some of the romance out of it?
No I'm a big advocate for scheduling sex
Because you are prioritising it
And it gives you something to look forward to and you
can use that as a bit of juice, right? You can
send some sexy text messages that day
or guess what colour panties
I'm putting on, says he.
Yes, yes, yes. Okay,
good, good. Yeah, or
I'm going to do this to you or can you do
to me what you did last Wednesday?
Right. You know, things like that start
to get the juices flowing
and get the excitement and the build-up.
And, yeah, but there is the only flip side of that
is if you start looking at sex like it's work,
it will become work.
If it's another thing on the to-do list,
no, scratch it.
Right.
So why do you think women are more guilty of passing on sex?
Yeah, look, as you will know,
the suppression of women goes far, far
back and I just think that we
are carrying a bigger mental load.
Normally the house, the housework,
potentially kids,
multitasking,
and I think we're just exhausted by
trying to fight the system and be in
the world and show up as equals.
Honestly.
That's our fault as well.
I was going to put it down to we don't find it as fun
as maybe you do all the time.
Right.
Not speaking for myself.
There's a glitch in the system if that's what's happening.
Yeah, right.
And I also think maybe women haven't explored their bodies
as much themselves, so they don't really know what gets them excited
and what pleasure, the expansion of pleasure,
can feel like in their bodies.
That's what Gwyneth Paltrow told me on Goop.
Right.
See? Told you.
So satisfy a pro-to-friend, not foe.
Oh, I'm torn about vibrators because...
What?
What a sentence.
I'm going to put that on your headstone.
I'm torn about vibrators.
Torn about vibrators.
She always said she was torn about vibrators.
Well, on one hand, anything that brings pleasure,
I am all for.
But I also am not for the quick fix.
Right.
And I mean, this is getting people off in like three minutes, you know?
And it should take your time.
Absolutely.
The thing is, we all become really genital focused.
But the whole way we get pleasure expansion is we incorporate the whole body.
So you tickle your toes and you rub your nipples on your elbows.
You know, you do weird things
and then you go back to the genitals and then you go
somewhere else and then you go back to the genitals.
Right. You're saying it's buying into this
fast-paced culture that we're all part of.
You got it. We're after a quick fix.
So we're like, that thing's charged. Boom.
Yeah. Tap, tap.
Find the setting you like and then it's
done in a couple of minutes
Absolutely
Right okay
So part of it
But not wholly
Yeah
Okay
Like I mean some days
Of course
We just want to eat junk food
And we want to have
A quick orgasm
So that's
You know
That's fine
Some days
That's only a Sunday thing
You've just described
Hungover
What?
Weekdays
Yeah
For me
Sundays for Fletch Week weekdays for Bourne.
Fantastic.
Great insight.
Now, if people would like to follow you and learn more,
how can they do that?
Yeah, look, I've been a bit slack ever since I've qualified,
and people are just finding me on Instagram,
and I'm, yeah, working with clients via that.
What did your friend Fletch tell you last week?
Hurry up and do your website.
Yeah, I know, I know.
I'm working on my logo.
That's great.
Okay, good.
What is your logo?
Just out of interest.
I don't have to have some sort of...
Well, certainly not a vibrator.
It's a vulva with the rising sun.
Oh, I love you.
I like it.
Brilliant.
Yeah.
That's good.
Did you give out your Instagram?
I'm sorry, a lot on the...
Morgan Penn.
Morgan Penn.
There we go. Fantastic. Morgan, thank you for coming in Instagram? I'm sorry, a lot on the... Morgan Penn. Morgan Penn. There we go.
Fantastic.
Morgan, thank you for coming in this morning.
It's been a pleasure.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
Coming up, we're going to talk to Josh685.
He is responsible for that huge TikTok beat
that then Jason Derulo used in Savage Love.
Used.
Used.
Acquired legally.
Yes. Entangled. Yeah, hequired legally. Yes.
Entangled.
Yeah, sure.
Entanglement.
This is why.
Fat.
This is why.
Fat.
This is why.
This is why.
This is why.
Fat.
From Australia and not yet on our shores.
Always a good indication that it's coming, though.
Yeah.
We get it, then they get it, or they get it, then we get it.
Yep.
From Streets, the Paddle Pop Rainbow in a tub,
but the more exciting of this is the Bubba Lo Bill in a tub.
The traditional Bubba Lo Bill.
The fastest scoop in the West is the tagline they're using.
Yes, go ahead, because I've got...
Questions.
Yes.
Is there...
So you open the lid and you look down.
Is it the face of...
No.
Oh, what?
Which was always the selling point of Bublo Bill, right?
Yeah, and the little...
He had the bubble nose, the bubble gum nose.
Where's the bubble gum representation?
There's no bubble gum nose.
They look to be tiny.
They look more like chopped up jelly beans.
And the ice cream mix.
Okay.
I'm on board with that.
It looks like strawberry.
What was the yellow in a bubblegum?
It wasn't banana, was it?
It may have been a banana flavor.
I thought the whole thing was just bubblegum flavor.
No.
Wasn't it?
It was chocolate and raspberry or strawberry.
With chunks of, well, the bubblegum, Bill, you'd eat it all.
And then the chocolate backing, wasn't there?
Yeah.
There was chocolate backing?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So were there chocolate swirls through this?
Yep, chocolate swirls, strawberry, raspberry swirls, banana swirls,
and chunks of, like, jelly bean instead of the bubblegum.
It's too small and it's too glisteny to be a gobstoppery bubblegum thing
like the nose originally was.
Are you going to judge me that I'm more excited about the paddle pop rainbow?
Yeah, that's weird.
I don't know if I've ever had a paddle pop rainbow.
So good.
Flavour-wise, out of the two of those tubs, it would be superior.
Well, that's one thing.
You only buy the bubblegum because of the shape and the, you pick the nose out
and then you lick the ice cream off
and you hold it
until you're finished
and then you ditch the stick
and then goes the bubble gum.
Because it's like a double treat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You don't eat it
from a tub.
But then sometimes you get
bubble O'Bell
and he's a little bit deformed
because maybe the freezer
wasn't a little bit melting.
Or you got,
there was some Sonic the Hedgehog
ice creams
that did not hold well in the heat.
Right, and they may have been transported somewhat.
But yeah, for everyone that expected, I'll show you the photo because somebody opened it up and took a photo.
God, it looks like he's melted in the sun into a container.
Yeah, it looks a little pooey, to be honest.
Well, it's in Australia, the bubble-o-bill ice cream in a tub and the... Rainbow paddle pop.
Okay, great.
This is fat.
This is wild.
Fat.
This is wild.
This is wild.
This is wild.
Fat.
Fletchvorna Megan, the podcast, ZM.
Joined in studio by Josh685, good morning.
Good morning.
Number one in New Zealand, number one in Australia,
and number one in the UK.
Yep.
Have you heard it so much that you're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
So you're responsible for the da-da-da
that we all can't get out of our head.
Yeah.
Used by Jason Derulo now for savage love yep
how did that come about um it's a long story but um long story short i just like what do you call
i came here from school one day that's where i made the first beat lax itself and um yeah i just
came home from school like one day in july last year and then just jumped on my laptop for like
three four hours maybe just like playing around on my laptop making beats
and then yeah,
just like put it up
on YouTube
and then just that
because that's the only
platform I had at the time
and that's all I knew.
I never knew about
like all this releasing
on all platforms and that.
Yeah, I just checked it
up on YouTube
up until April this year.
That's when it started
blowing up on TikTok.
So that's where I first
heard it on TikTok
and my kids,
we did the family dance
to the song and I said, what did the family dance to the song.
And I said, what's the story with this song?
Yeah.
And my daughters were like, I don't know, it's just massive on TikTok.
And my wife said, I hear it's written by an Auckland school kid.
And I was like, no way.
But then here you are.
Oh, sup bro.
That's, even when, so what was it like when it was massive on TikTok?
Pardon? What was it like for you when When it was massive on TikTok? Pardon?
What was it like for you
When it was just massive on TikTok?
Before all the Jason Derulo stuff happened
What was it like
All of a sudden
Everyone's doing a dance to your
It was like gangsta
But it was like solid
Because you just see it going big
But you didn't know
I didn't know you can do
Like this kind of stuff
Like
What do you call it?
I didn't know you could like
Have all this kind of stuff after it
yeah i just thought it was like views and like i thought it was gonna be like there's one type
of things yeah yeah yeah and so was it weird like did people from even your school know that it was
you that had done it when it started getting massive yeah because a lot of my friends already
knew i'm a time beats at the time yeah and they're like they already knew it was me and some other
people in school like knew me for it but like other than that yeah initially the story was that jason had come along and like taking the beat and was ripping off this
kiwi and we were like ah what yeah there was like um heaps of people in the comments like trying to
get recognition for me and that like in the comments but a lot of people were saying it was
hate but i wasn't really either just like trying to get recognition for me so he had used it before
asking permission from you um What do you call it?
Yeah,
something like that.
Okay.
And then what,
you get a call
and it's like,
hey,
it's Jason Derulo.
Suppose you do this right,
let's get into business
and then what,
you're 17 now?
Yeah.
So you were 16 when?
Yeah,
16 was when I made the beat
like last time.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Is he pressure for like new music? Like is everyone like, okay, like last year. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Is there pressure for like new music?
Like is everyone like, okay, what are you doing next?
Yeah.
Oh, not really.
Like I've already got beats like on my laptop just waiting to like set off.
And a lot of them trying to like remaster them and remake some of the stuff.
Yeah.
Wow.
So what about in terms of Jason or some other artists?
Has anyone hit you up for beats?
There's heaps, but like I can't name them because there's heaps of them in my request in there on Insta too.
Like international artists?
Yeah, like big verified ones as well.
Oh, juicy.
Oh, that's so buzzy.
It's what you hope for, right,
when you write a beat in your bedroom on your laptop
and a few hours after school,
but hoping for something and actually living it.
Two wildly different experiences, I'd imagine. Have you been out anywhere, like in a few hours after school, but hoping for something and actually living it. Two wildly different experiences, I'd imagine.
Have you been out anywhere, like in a shop
or a car's driven past and your song's been playing?
Yeah, oh yeah, heaps of times.
Just standing there and you see someone
driving past blasting it.
It's like a weird buzz, just seeing it happen, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's so cool.
And where is it at in the US charts?
We're talking about all the number ones, but it's got a bit...
The US charts seem to take a little bit longer to react.
Yeah.
It takes a bit longer to get there.
Where are you guys at?
Last week, I think I was like 31, but I don't know now.
I'm not sure now.
Right.
It's going to be climbing up.
Wow.
Well, that is cool.
It's such an awesome story.
Crazy, yeah.
And all from New Zealand, right?
Because since it's been massive, there's been no international travel. Yeah, it's because all these borders and that, lockdown and all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And all from New Zealand, right? Because since it's been massive, there's been no international travel.
Yeah, it's because, like, all these borders and they're locked in and all that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everybody's locked down.
Damn it, you could be on Ellen or something.
If it wasn't for COVID.
Imagine that.
Damn it.
Ellen.
Is Ellen the peak for you?
That would be my peak.
That is.
That's Everest.
Ellen is.
That's Everest.
And then someone gets out of the box and scares me.
Yeah, yeah.
That's peak celebrity.
Yeah.
Okay, don't force your dreams on everybody.
Josh, thanks so much for coming in.
Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
We want to talk about a story,
but I think we should start with this little intro thing.
This might not work, in which case I have a backup plan.
Right, okay.
Oh, yeah, it did work.
Okay, here we go.
Where'd you get your pussycat?
Meow, meow, meow, meow, meow, meow.
Wow.
Wow, wow.
Was that on key?
Uh, no.
No, I don't
believe so.
What's a key?
You don't need a key when you've got a voice like this.
Sounds great.
Where'd you get your pussycat?
This is a song.
This is a segment that starts with a song.
Yeah.
And we're going to open it up, start the ball rolling with the story about this cyclist
whose Instagram is one bike, one world.
You probably heard about when he first found this cat because it kept following him.
Yeah, right.
But now we're way further down the track.
We're like, well, a whole lot's happened since.
But he is still cycling around.
So he just picked...
18 months after picking up this cat.
Okay, but was it someone else's cat?
No, it was a stray cat.
Well, so he says.
That's what everyone said. Oh, I've got a stray. He said there was
lots of strays and
it took an immediate liking
to me and I was like, oh, that's a scruffy wee
kit kat. Yeah. And he sat
with her, patting her, and
he was having a snack and she ate some
pesto as well.
And then he –
Pesto?
Yeah.
Who, what kind of bougie traveller has pesto?
It was like carrot sticks and pesto.
Maybe.
So he started cycling, and it started running alongside him.
He's like, oh, that can't hurt.
Pop her in the basket.
And then he popped her in the basket, and she sat there,
and he was like, you're mine now.
Nala.
Guess I've got a cat.
Yeah.
So 18 months ago, they teamed up and they're still going.
They're still going.
Yeah, because I remember when he found the cat
and there was a bit of a buzz about it,
but everyone was kind of like, it's not going to last.
Yeah.
But it has.
18 months later, they've been to a whole bunch of countries,
Montenegro, Albania, Greece, Turkey, Georgia.
He's making his way to Southeast Asia.
Is he allowed to cross borders with the cats?
I don't know.
I was thinking more with COVID.
Oh, that too.
I guess he's kind of isolating because he just sleeps wherever.
Yeah.
He said, before I found Nala, that's the name of the cat,
I was just darting around from city to city as quick as possible
so I could get to East Asia.
But when I found her, she had a little cough.
She told me to take things slower, enjoy the experience and what was around me.
Oh, that's so sweet.
She's taught me to be even more giving and compassionate.
Right.
There's lots of photos.
So how do you want this segment to work?
Well, isn't it weird?
Because if somebody was like, oh, I was just driving and I saw a dog, so I just picked
it up and took it home.
It's my dog now.
You'd be like, that's a bit weird.
And even more weird would be like, oh, I just found
a goat and it's my goat
now. But for some reason, it's okay
with cats to be like, I just
found this cat and now
I patted it and it purred and now it's
my cat. And people
always have, I love the stories of when
people find a cat in
a peculiar circumstance.
Right.
And that's why we're right now.
Ross Boss is out there.
Didn't he get his cat from a dumpster in Dubai?
In Dubai.
Or in a...
You got a Dubai dumpster cat.
But didn't our friend Brad's got a Dubai dumpster cat as well?
A Dubai dumpster cat?
Forest?
They're everywhere over there.
And then you feel really guilty.
And so we got ours and we were like,
we'd taken it to a cattery or a shelter or whatever
and took it home to our house for that night
and it had a big like gash down the side.
I was like, all right, let's take it to the vet
and it costs heaps of money.
And then you're like, okay, I guess we've got a cat now.
You've invested.
And then I was just telling the producers outside the horrify
because when we bought it back from Dubai, it cost lots.
How much is a New Zealand cat now?
About four grand.
Was it on business class?
No, but the thing is, we could have left it behind, and she would have died, and I have her heart.
You couldn't do it.
Couldn't do it.
I know that that might surprise you.
I would probably bring it back, too.
These two wouldn't.
But now, anyone wants a cat, she's annoying.
You're over it.
You're over it.
Yeah, so we want to know where'd you get your pussycat?
I don't know how good this segment's going to be.
So do you want one really good story?
And are you going to bring it back next week?
No, I reckon if we get a bunch of really good stories.
Okay.
We'll just set this thing off.
Let the boulder roll down the hill after Indiana Giants.
Yeah, right.
I don't.
Okay, and then do you have to sing the song again?
Yeah, I'll sing it at the start of the group.
Maybe you can practice.
Should I do it again now to kick it off?
But what about if people ring up and say,
like, I just got mine from the pet store?
We don't want those dumb stories.
We want, like, interesting stories like, we stopped on State Highway 1 at a rest area.
Because dad needed to poo.
Okay, right.
And then there was a cat.
And then we heard, meow.
And that's how we found Tiddles McState Highway 1.
That's what you'd call them, obviously.
Well, okay.
Well, give us a call.
0800-DIALS-AT-M.
Let's see if this segment will work.
Where'd you get your pussycat?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
That was a bit better.
That was a bit better.
I'll try my best next.
Are you ready?
Yep, yep.
Are you singing?
Yep.
Where'd you get your pussycat?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
So we hear stories about where you got your cat.
Wow.
Okay, great.
Yeah, but we don't want to be like, we went to a pet store.
No.
Or I contacted a breeder.
That's not what we want.
It's got to be like the story we found of the guy that was cycling around the world
and just adopted this cat and now it sits in the basket and goes everywhere.
Yeah.
Does it have a cute little helmet?
No-helm goggles?
Oh, it should do.
That's what it needs.
No-helm goggles.
Yeah, that's what it needs.
No-helm goggles.
Jessica.
Jessica, good morning.
Good morning.
Where?
Oh, okay, hold on, hold on.
Oh, God.
Where'd you get your pussycat?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I think so.
No.
I found my cat in the wheelie bin out the back of our house.
Oh.
And was it stray or was it someone else's?
It was very young, so we imagine it was dumped because we live out in the country
and it must have been a scavenger for food and fell in.
Right.
And it's all good now?
Well, that's what you tell yourself.
Yeah, it's good now.
What's its name?
Its name is V.
V? Was that on a V can?
No, because it was like,
it didn't like us at first.
It was hissing at us, so we couldn't figure out
whether it was a boy or a girl,
so I named it after V for vendetta.
Okay, and it was wearing the little anonymous mask, wasn't it? That actually was a boy or a girl, so I named it after V for Vendetta. Oh, okay.
And it was wearing the little anonymous mask, wasn't it?
That actually probably would have been a better name.
How'd you name your pussycat?
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
How'd you name your pussycat?
We can do it next week.
You want to keep a little kitty cat content in the back pocket.
Jessica, thank you.
Emily, good morning.
Wait a minute.
We're not at the right part of the song.
Kim, do you want to start?
Hi. Hold on, Emily. Hold on, mate. Here we go. Sorry, Emily. No right part of the song. Kim, do you want to start? Hi.
Hold on, Emily.
Hold on, mate.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Sorry, Emily.
No, I don't know.
You can just start it again.
I think it's looping.
Where'd you get your pussycat?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
And we found her on the side of the road because her sibling had been run over in front of us.
Oh, my God.
Oh, Jesus.
The heartbreak that this segment has just delivered us.
But with
loss came gain because
you picked up your cat, you took it home, you love it now.
And what did you
call this cat? Her name is
Bean. Bean. Oh, that's
so cute. That's cute.
Bean. After Mr. Bean.
No, she's white, so like Albino.
Bean.
I get you.
I get why that wasn't clarified earlier.
I think how do you name your pussycat or what do you name your pussycat is definitely a winner.
We can do that next time.
Lauren, good morning.
Good morning.
How are you?
Lauren, Lauren, Lauren, Lauren, Lauren, Lauren, Lauren, Lauren, Lauren.
Where did you get your pussycat?
Start the whole thing.
Can you start the whole thing again?
Because that's where the sweet spot is for that.
Oh, my God.
I love this song.
Here we go.
Here we go.
Don't encourage him, Lauren.
Where did you get your pussycat?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
God, that's awful.
We got our pussycat that was living with the pigs next door.
Was it not the families that owned the pigs?
No.
They think it was dumped there,
so it was living in the bush just behind the pig,
and it would come out and eat the scraps that the pigs were being fed
and then hide back in the bush.
It was only a tiny little ginger kitten. And what did you call it?
So my partner named it, so don't judge me, but Carl Osborne.
He has two names.
Carl Osborne.
Carl Osborne.
Why?
He's known as a tool of our friends.
He's known as a tool of your friends.
I love that this cat has got, like, a proper name.
Carl Osborne. It's going to be Piggy has got, like, a proper name. Carlos.
It's going to be Piggy or something.
Yeah.
Ginger or something.
Pepper or something.
Jordan, good morning.
Yeah, morning, guys.
Jordan, Jordan, Jordan.
Oh, no, Jordan.
Wait, Jordan.
Where did you get your pussycat?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We found our pussycat in a barbecue.
In a barbecue?
Wow.
Yep.
At our parents' house.
We lifted up the cover and this little kitten fell out.
Oh.
What did you call it?
Like pork chop?
Or nibble?
Tigger.
Tigger.
Okay.
Good basic cat name there.
Yeah, that'd be a top ten.
Is he a ginger cat? Yeah, he's got stripes though. Oh, he's got stripes. Brilliant. Thank you, Jordan. Good basic cat name there. Yeah, that'd be a top ten. Is he a ginger cat?
Yeah, he's got stripes though.
Oh, he's got stripes.
Brilliant.
Thank you, Jordan.
Good, good.
Thank you for participating.
I think that's a wrap for...
Oh my gosh, we've got so many good text messages in though.
Megan, can you back that up?
Yeah, there are a few text messages.
Don't sing at the start of it.
Just read the text messages.
Where'd you get your pussycat?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
My friend found her cat while hiking on the Banks Peninsula.
Subsequently named it Banksy.
Oh, yeah, that's a good name.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
Where'd you get your pussycat?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
One singing for all the texts is enough.
My sister made a drunken purchase in Gisborne
while down there for Rhythm and Vines.
Came back with a kitty called Gizzy.
What, just put it in the tent?
What are they?
I was a student.
I had placement in a hospital.
And on your last day,
lots of patients give you chocolates
and that sort of thing.
My one gave me a ginger kitten.
You don't gift animals.
Unless you know
that they desperately want one.
Unless they were like,
here, I'm on the way out.
Look after Tiddles.
Oh, yeah, you inherited it then,
didn't you?
And then she goes,
beep.
That's it.
Yeah.
And the life is passed on to the cat.
Or something,
if you believe that shit.
We bought a house and the people that moved out took their cat.
He walked back four times to our house.
And the owner who was pregnant at the time said,
look, he could just stay with you for a little bit.
Yeah.
Many months later, they came knocking and said,
can we get our cat back?
And we're like, absolutely not.
He's our cat now.
That's where we got our kitty cat from.
We found our cat at a construction yard
and she was so tiny,
she still had an umbilical cord.
Oh my God.
And that didn't fall off for a few more days.
I took her to work every day
so I could bottle feed her every two hours
during the day
and woke up every two hours during the night
to feed her as well.
No word on what they called their pussy cat though.
I worked for a courier company,
and a driver came in with two ginger kittens
who were in a worksite skipping.
They dropped something off at the worksite
and heard them meowing.
Mangy, Flea, and Tick infested.
One had a hair lip.
The other couldn't open their eye.
The husband said no,
but four years later,
Chuck and Norris are still in our lives.
Chuck and Norris.
I think what do you name yourussycat would be the next segment.
What Do You Name Your Pussycat?
Fantastic.
Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM.
Fact of the day, about the Mir space station.
The Mir space station.
Oh, yeah, I remember that.
The Mir space station.
It was the Russian space station.
It was pre-international space station.
Now, did it merge with the...
Did they just get rid of it?
Yeah. Okay. It crashed into the rid of it? Yeah. Okay.
Crashed into the ocean. The Pacific
Ocean. Okay. And that's actually what
the fact of the day is about. Okay.
When it was announced
that it would be de-orbited.
Yeah. And this was good. The
US was all for it because it freed up the
Russians to get involved in the International Space
Station. Yeah. Because it was going to be very expensive
and they needed a bit of their expertise on the matter.
So they were for it.
Taco Bell,
they towed a target
measuring 12 metres by 12 metres
into the Pacific Ocean off the coast of Australia
and said, if you can hit that, we will give every
American a free taco.
Wow. That is
brilliant. If any part of the Mir space station hits that target,
every American will be entitled continental American.
Yeah.
So that excludes Hawaii?
Yeah, because you've got to be on the continent.
But does it include Alaska?
Because it's joined.
Yeah, then it would.
That would be continental.
You know when they show a map of America? They say continental, and that maybe doesn't include Alaska? Because it's joined. Yeah, then it would. That would be continental. You know when they show a map of the area?
They say continental and that maybe doesn't include Alaska
because Canada's in the way.
Like everyone in Hawaii is going to bankrupt them.
Like this would have bankrupted them alone, right?
So they took out a massive insurance policy for the gamble.
But if anyone can hit that target target it's rocket scientists, right? Not when it's
it wasn't like
the mere space station.
It wasn't
like a rocket. It wasn't
symmetrical
where they could
be like, oh the drag on that's going to be the same
so we'll be able to steer it. It was literally like, it's coming
into orbit and we're not sure where it's going to hit the ground.
But what if it hits the ground now?
Flip-flopping.
Well, that was a risk.
But it would have burnt up quite substantially by then, right?
Like it would have been bitsy.
And it came into bits.
That's why they said if any bit of this hits the target,
well, by every American, continental American,
a Taco Bell taco, it did not, no single piece of it hit the target.
Yeah, right. I i mean the chances of that
12 meters away 12 meters what might seem big if you're standing in the middle of it but if you're
in the middle of the pacific ocean then no yeah um what any word on how much the insurance policy
costs no it's i couldn't find out how much the insurance policy costs because you know like you
see a lot of like um you know those get this basketball in from halfway and win $50,000.
Yeah.
Or like those, you know, beach digs.
All those you can get insurance for.
Someone has to work out the odds, right?
Yeah, they work out the odds.
How many things are you burying?
Yeah, you pay a few thousand dollars.
Yeah, they do the maths and then you pay a smaller sum.
Yeah.
On the chance that someone could do it.
Yeah.
It's an insurance policy.
But while it was being de-orbited, rather,
and re-entering Earth's atmosphere,
a guy called Bob Citrin chartered an aircraft
to fly over the Pacific to watch it land,
to watch it re-enter.
I know.
It was a concern.
I see your faces have lit up there.
There was a concern that it was slightly, you know,
there were bits and pieces that might have broken off.
And if you were close enough to watch it reentering,
you were probably also close enough to maybe get hit.
Yeah.
But he didn't mind.
He went and they survived as well.
So today's fact of the day is once Taco Bell said to the Russian space station,
hit this target with your decommissioned space station
and we'll give every continental American a free taco.
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
There's been a survey done
asking a whole lot of parents
about their kids' names.
73% thought of better names for their
children after they made it official.
That's reassuring to know. 73%
and then 30% said they didn't
give it enough thought.
There's a lot of regret there.
There's a lot of time too to give it
some thought. Yeah.
One would have thought.
You start thinking about that, don't you?
Yeah.
Because you don't have any kids, but do you have a list of names?
Yeah. You're just a toy boy?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've had lists of names for ages.
And then have some of them been taken by friends that have had kids
and you're like, ugh.
No.
What a waste.
But some of them got poo-pooed because he didn't want to,
he didn't like characters of Gossip Girl.
I was like, rude.
Right.
Nathaniel's hot.
Yeah.
So there is a list of most regretted boys and girls names.
Yeah.
So this is, I've named them and then afterwards I've been like,
oh, no.
So a top 10 for boys. Okay.
Dexter is 12%.
Sunny, 17%.
Jasper, 20%.
Felix, 21%.
These are pretty cute.
Wait, so the percentage is how many people
regret naming a kid that. Right. Dexter,
like, probably because that last
season was so terrible. That TV show.
Why would you name them after Dexter anyway?
Who was a murderer, if you're not familiar with that show.
Grayson, 22%.
Oliver, 24%.
Tobias, 25%.
Carter, 28%.
Number two on the list is Jackson, 29% of people regretted.
There's lots of people who Jackson though.
J-A-X-O-N.
Oh, okay.
Right.
Jackson.
That specific spelling.
Yeah.
Right.
Okay.
Number one, the most regretted boy's name.
32% of people, Hunter.
Hunter?
I know a little Hunter.
He's so cute.
Right.
But do you think, yeah, okay.
It's weird to regret it.
But I wonder if it's because there was a time where there was,
it was quite a rare name and then it just, blah, blah.
It was everywhere.
Yeah.
So maybe they were like, oh, I liked it when it wasn't commonplace,
but now it's commonplace.
Most regretted girls' names, Gracie, 12%, Delilah, 13.
Is that after that song came out?
But that was a good song, Hey There, Delilah.
I think that song was the reason that name got big again.
Summer, 15%.
Harriet, 19%.
Miriam, 21%.
Miriam.
Miriam.
Miriam.
Like Mary-am.
What?
Miriam.
Miriam.
Miriam.
I really regret it because I spelt it wrong.
Edith, 24% of people regret naming their kids that name.
Okay.
Amber, 27%.
Lila, 28%.
And then the top two, number two, is Arabella, 32%.
And the most regretted girl's name, 35%, is Aurora.
Aurora.
That was Sleeping Beauty.
Sleeping Beauty.
Yeah, right.
Okay.
Just a side note.
This is very offensive.
They were also asked what names they would never call their children.
Yeah.
Boys, Boris and Donald.
Well, that's...
Politicians.
Yeah, of course.
And then the top answer for girls was Karen, ISIS and Megan.
So not after a terror organisation
or a well known middle aged woman
complaining name
Do you think it's because of Megan Markle?
I think so. That's the only, because was this a British
out of Britain? Wow
people hate her that much
It's unreal how much hate she gets
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I've said it once, I'll say it again
Bloody media
Have you ever heard of Bloody media, eh? Bloody media. I've said it once, I'll say it again. Bloody media.
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Have you ever heard of the bliss point?
The bliss point with regards to food?
Oh.
Have you heard of bliss balls?
Yeah, they're pretty yum.
They are yum.
I'm on a bliss ball.
Yeah. The bliss point is, it refers to the point at which the sugar, the fat, and or the salt,
so something could have all three of them,
or some could specialize in one of the three or two of the three,
are blended to a point of delicious perfection.
The bliss point.
That's how it's described.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, okay.
So it's where you find an irresistible sweetness, saltiness, richness,
and it's all irresistible.
Yeah. And it's things
like chips, biscuits.
We've been talking about the
sweet and tangy chip all morning.
That would fit into that perfectly.
It has sweetness, it has saltiness, it has
richness. That's why I miss those biggins.
You're talking biggins,
tangy, we're talking crisper,
kiwi, sweet and tangy.
So,
this is research that's been done by food
technologists and it involves
like rats and rats ate it
and they'd eat more than they normally would
when the bliss point was reached
in foods. However,
the next time they ate that food
they needed to eat more
of it to get to the same perceived point of bliss and satisfaction from it.
Like a junkie chasing a hive that doesn't exist.
Exactly like that.
Like meth.
We eat little bags of chips when we're at school and now we eat a whole big bag.
It triggers dopamine, which is like the good that's also released when you use illicit drugs.
And so next time you do it, you're chasing that high.
Oh, God.
And you'll eat more to get to it.
I'm an addict.
Now I need to go to AA.
Stand up and say.
CA, Chips Anonymous.
Chips Anonymous.
My name's Fletch and I had a whole bag last night.
And for lunch.
Turn up to, what are those rehab places all called?
Phoenix, is it Phoenix House?
I don't know.
The ones I've seen ads for them on the telly.
Oh, right, okay.
Turn up below.
I'm just here to check myself in.
What happened?
Doritos with no chilli.
Yum.
Whole bag in no time today.
You, like, made the comparison,
but, yeah, that's what they're saying.
I've heard that before with junk food and sugar
is the highs are very...
Is it cheese that also mimics...
Well, yeah, because that has got richness.
That's got...
Saltiness.
Saltiness.
And so when you're, like, binging
and you're hitting this high,
it's exactly the same as drugs,
but obviously from the supermarket, legal.
So it gives you the same pleasure of accomplishment.
Like when you tick something off your to-do list that you've been meaning to do
or you achieve something and you get that like, I've done that.
That's great.
Yeah, but then there's also the downside of that is the come down.
The not being able to fit into your pants.
When I finish a big bag of chips, I'm like, I did that.
Good on me.
I did that.
You shaped that.
Me.
I did it.
And no one can take this away from me.
I'm like hiding the wrapper in the bin.
Like, I didn't eat those.
You live alone.
Oh, yeah.
No, from myself.
From yourself.
Open the bin and be reminded of.
Shame.
Yeah, shame.
Shame.
Ding.
Shame.
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