ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 15th May 2020

Episode Date: May 14, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Fletch, Vaughan and Megan podcast. All thanks to McCafe. Get a delicious barista-made coffee from Macca's drive-thru today. ZM. Hit music. Lives here. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:12 Good morning. Good morning. Oh, he's back. Welcome back. He's back. Smithy's back. Here I am. Hello.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Now, with your sick days, Megan is of the understanding now that you're number one out of all three of us for most sick days taken. And I said, surely not. I said not, including when I got my hip done. Minus that. Oh, minus the hip done? Yeah. Probably. Well, at least in the last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I don't know. Of all time leaderboard, though. Miss Fletch wants it to be a competition because he never takes the sick day. And he needs a medal. Consecutive days, Fletch does win because he was out for like eight months with adult chickenpox that time. That was two weeks.
Starting point is 00:00:55 It was two weeks. It felt like forever. It did. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe. Well, I'm definitely a leader. Who cares? You get the medal either way. Thank you. That's all I want is a medal for least sick days on the show. Least sick days taken.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Invincible immune system. Yeah, it's just a lot of vitamins, a lot of mandarins. It's my secret. Mandarins all the time. A bag of mandarins a day. It might actually be your secret. I don't know. Joining us on the show today, 10 to 8, Harry Jowsey.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Who, of course, we've known since Heartbreak Island. Good. And now he's massive and, like, internationally famous. Like, I know his Instagram after... His Instagram was, like, big after Heartbreak Island and stuff. But now... But you're talking, like like 150,000 big. Yeah, big for New Zealand.
Starting point is 00:01:47 But now he's got like three plus million followers and it literally happened overnight. Yeah. How insane is that? Being on too hot to handle. Yeah. Madness. So he's on with us at 10 to 8 this morning.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Also, your mum joins us on the show today. Yeah. Ray Ray offering up some advice. What would Ray Ray say? So if you've got a little bit of a sticky situation and predicament, Ray Ray will just tell it like it is. She'll give you some boomer advice. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:02:16 The top six as well coming up on the show before seven. Yes, pilots who have lost jobs due to airlines downsizing, a lot of them are going to be becoming train drivers. Right, okay. Apparently transferable skills. So the top six signs that your train driver used to be a pilot. They really love being in charge of a lot of people's lives. Not me.
Starting point is 00:02:39 It's a power trip. I like to come to work where if I stuff something up, no one dies. Yeah. Yeah, but if they have a bad day and they're driving a train, what are you going to be like five minutes late versus plummeting into the Pacific? It's kind of a lot less power in their hands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. A Auckland restaurant is, I've seen this kind of been explored around the world, but here in New Zealand it's happening. Besos Latenos, which I believe translates to Latin kisses. Yeah, it's because Besos is kiss, yeah. Oh, how do you know? Jeff Besos. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Jeff Kisses. Jeff Kisses. Mr. Kisses. Yeah. Jeff. Yeah. You shouldn't have. So I didn't know that they had two restaurants, but there's two.
Starting point is 00:03:28 There's one in Elliott Stables in Auckland, which as the name suggests is an old stables. Yeah. It's like a historic building. And where the horses used to live, restaurants live. Yeah. There's no horses there and they've cleaned up the hay. It's got great food ratings. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Just an amazing place to eat. And I went to Bezos Latinos for like restaurant month or something. We had traditional Mexican food. Like there were little insects and stuff. Oh, wow. It was so yum. I remember you raving about going there. Amazing food.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Okay. Proper, not just an old El Paso taco kit. Not our buddy hard shell mince tacos over here. Not mincey tacos. This is actual, you should go, Megan. No, I can appreciate both forms. The form I make at home and the form that they make. Open your mind.
Starting point is 00:04:15 There's no bloody hard shell mince tacos here at Besos. Latinos. Latinos. Yeah. So they're going to beitting out one of their restaurants With mannequins In the seats Oh that's cool
Starting point is 00:04:28 Because you gotta practice social distancing So every second table's gotta be Empty or gone or moved Yeah So rather than doing that Somehow I'm not asking too many questions Of the people that make the delicious food
Starting point is 00:04:39 Where they get this many mannequins from Yeah But there's a ton of mannequins And they're like, you know, in fact, we were playing Barbies just last night at home. Right, okay. And Ken's clothes got wet. So Ken was naked.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I said, well, Ken can't be naked if he's going in the camper van. Why? He'll get done for indecent exposure. But he's in the camper van. No, no, because they were going in the camper van. He can't drive naked. Oh, it's his camper van. He also wasn't driving, which I thought was a nice break from gender sort of roles.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Yeah, yeah. The male didn't have to drive. Well, he was wearing no clothes. Balls could have got caught on the gear stick. He doesn't have any balls either, another thing I found out last night. How long are his balls? Yeah, it must be pretty sagging to be caught on the gear stick. Well, yeah, I couldn't think of anything else closer to that.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Doodle got wrapped around the steering wheel or something. Stuck to the seat. Yeah, a lot is sticking to the seat. So we just kind of put him in some of the spare clothes we had and it looked really funny. Yeah. Because he was kind of just wearing this, not because he was wearing woman's clothes,
Starting point is 00:05:44 but because he was just wearing this wild collection of clothes. And that's what some of the mannequins look like as well, like at this restaurant. It's a good idea. It is. Having played Barbie is very, it's actually quite cool. But where did they get all these mannequins from? Unless you're scared of mannequins.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Yeah, maybe you can hire them or they know some people. Maybe they know some people. Would you consider this for your empty table? Do you have any empty tables at the cafe? We had to space them out. But I did show my husband this last night and he was like, no, that's terrifying. I was like, I love it. And then you can play dress-ups with all the mannequins, like change their clothes every day.
Starting point is 00:06:21 It's like grown-ups, like real-life Barbies. There might be a few flight centre captains that are looking for a job. Yeah, but he was very rigid. He could hold your menu at the door, but he doesn't bend. If you got mannequins, like I know you're not a gimmicky cafe whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:06:38 No. But if you got mannequins and like, you know how you can buy those horrendous looking like Donald Trump masks that look sharp? Yeah. And then you could like horrendous looking like Donald Trump masks that look sharp? Yeah. And then you could like dress it up like Donald Trump and have like whoever had the masks.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Why would you do that? I don't know. People like weird stuff. Not Donald Trump. Oh, you don't reckon? Nah. Like a cafe full of Donald Trumps. It'd be terrifying.
Starting point is 00:07:00 They've got heaps of celebrities. You could have Nelson Mandela there or something. Oh, that's a better choice. That's better. Yeah. People could be like. I've never seen a Nelson Mandela. It'd be like, I had a coffee and a muffin this morning and it's gone with Nelson Mandela.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Pretty quiet fella. Yeah. It's an idea. Probably because he's been dead for a few years. 15 past six, otherwise known as quarter past six. Next on the show. Three quarters to seven. 45 minutes away.
Starting point is 00:07:24 I like that. Three quarters to seven. Who was away. I like that. Three quarters to seven. Who was that announcer that always used to say 45 minutes to seven? We were like, you know it's quarter past six. 52 minutes past six. They didn't last long in the industry. They didn't. I can't remember their name, but they didn't last.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I don't know. I think it might have been Mintz. Yeah. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. A flight attendant has been awarded $20,000 in damages for wrongful dismissal. Being fired and they don't think they deserved it. No, well, yeah, and they've been, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:05 they had to go to Employment Relations Authority and they've agreed that they were wrongfully dismissed. Good time to be getting some money out of... Yeah, but not if you were going to get a redundancy. True. They might have got more. Yeah, okay. Anyway, so this was a flight attendant
Starting point is 00:08:23 for Virgin Australia, New Zealand. So based here in New Zealand for Virgin Australia. They've consistently denied the allegations that the flight attendant performed a sex act on a passenger during a flight and provided free beers to them. Now, flight attendants had other flight attendants on the flight had reported hearing strange or slurping sounds coming from the aircraft's rear gallery. That'll be the beers.
Starting point is 00:08:51 That'll be the beers. That'll be the free beers. Because how would you drink a beer? If it's in a can and it always is on a plane. Yeah. I lap at it. I like to pour it into the top of the can and lap at it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Sometimes you'll get a little bit of air in there and you'll have to... So other flight attendants, and this was the problem, there wasn't really the evidence. And there were a lot of mismatching stories. Some flight attendants claim to hear the sounds and even have claimed to have caught them in the act. Clearly, the flight attendant was in a situation
Starting point is 00:09:30 behind curtains with a passenger for an extended period, which could raise questions, but questions are not enough. You've got to have answers. You've got to have answers. So they found that he had been unjustifiably suspended and dismissed as he was not sufficient information to support the Sex Act allegation, the most serious of the two. They did, however, conclude that he provided free beers to the passenger
Starting point is 00:09:54 when he was not entitled to them. Right. Because I think you've got to pay for the beersies, don't you, on Virgin? You've got to pay. Yeah, it's one of those, they show you a photo and then you're like, oh yeah, and then it's like $4. So that probably would have just meant he should have got a warning for that. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:08 As opposed to it being fired. So at the time, the incident, yeah, $20,000. Right. But there's a hot passenger on the plane, you know, and there's like a little curtain and you got a moment. You're saying you would. Well, I'm just saying, put me in that position. And I mean, I don't know what I'd do.
Starting point is 00:10:32 So I'm not willing to cast aspersions on someone else. Talk me through this curtained area. Is that when they're making their coffee and then they pull it across? Yeah, the galley. Is that what they call it? They just pull it in the back of the plane. Imagine it's the one at the back of the plane. They pull the curtain by the toilet.
Starting point is 00:10:48 So you can still see their feet. I'd say so, yeah. No, but see, I always open that curtain if I need something. I'm like, excuse me. Like, yeah, right. Because you can't knock on a curtain. Yeah. I could have walked into the beer drinking.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I would have been like, because I'm assuming here, crew, if I'm wrong, male flight attendant, from what you were saying. It doesn't say who the passenger was. Male? Yeah, but male flight attendant, but it doesn't say the passenger. Okay. I don't think male flight attendants are forming a queue to get slurpy with a woman who wants free beers.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Yeah, I'll have her. You got any of those free beers back there? You never know, mate. You never know. I'll let you. It's New Zealand. Yeah. Was it New Zealand or Australia?
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah, New Zealand. Yeah. I thought this was Australia. And New Zealand for Virgin Australia. Oh. Yeah. Well, now you're clapping. Get down there, don't I?
Starting point is 00:11:46 All right. That's our Kiwi can-do attitude. Yeah, I've got five minutes in a curtain. Let's see what can happen. Oh, my God. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast. ZM. We're into level two, and it's not going to be any time soon
Starting point is 00:11:59 that we get to do international travel, but people are already itching to travel somewhere. Look at this country we've got at our fingertips. Beautiful country. Beautiful country. I saw a story yesterday saying they don't expect travel till 2023. Yeah, normal travel. Normal travel.
Starting point is 00:12:17 And that's, I mean, that's even wishful thinking because we don't have a vaccine, do we? No. Until we get a vaccine, I mean, we might get to go to Australia or the islands. But until then, we're here. Lots of people, even if you can't travel, are googling and looking at where they would go.
Starting point is 00:12:35 So this is data from Booking.com. It has shown where Kiwis are dreaming of. It's broken down into countries internationally. This would be people searching for holidays on booking.com.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Wish lists. Yeah, I'd say at this point. I like that people are still like hoping. Dreaming. Yeah. We've got to have hope. We've got to have dreams
Starting point is 00:12:56 for the end of this. So done by country, there's a top 10 list of where Kiwis want to go to. 10 is Vietnam. 9 is Greece. 9 is Greece. 8 is Italy. Italy's still
Starting point is 00:13:10 in the top 10. I've always thought Italy would be an amazing place to visit. It's one of my favourite places. Yeah, it is. It's incredibly beautiful. But I mean, it's still... It got really hard hit. And still dealing with it. 100%. Number seven is Japan.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Six, the UK. And the top five countries that Kiwis are wishlisting. Thailand is number five. The USA is number four. These are very similar to what the wishlist would have been pre. Yeah. Although, I don't think, it'll be interesting to see if people do travel to the US after this because the dollar just went under 60 cents
Starting point is 00:13:48 yesterday. I think it just dipped under. That makes travelling in the US so expensive. I think that we've dealt with it to the point where our economy is going to start recovering before theirs, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:04 They're screwed. Their unemployment rate is through the roof already. And they said the full extent of it hasn't even hit. They, I just listen to the news and then form my opinion around what I'm told. It's good. It's what most people do. Yeah. I always take the opinion of the economist that looks the friendliest.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Yeah. Not the angry economist. Well, yeah, they had an angry economist on. Cameron friendliest. Yeah. Not the angry economist. Well, yeah, they had an angry economist on. Cameron Bagri. Yeah. He looked really angry, didn't he? Yeah, he was like, this isn't my fault. This isn't my fault, Cameron Bagri.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I felt like my dad was telling me off for getting a higher purchase or something. Yeah. I know. I need a washing machine. Where did you see Cameron Bagri? It was on the bloody news last night. Yeah, he wasn't happy. He wasn't happy
Starting point is 00:14:45 He must have had a rough day Bloody rough 25 years I reckon And then one of the other ones Because did you watch the budget special He had a dandruff on his suit Or some specks on his suit I was like oh god give that a roller Oh really?
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah And that's Was he like wardrobed? Was he the TVNZ guy? Oh he was on TVNZ Yeah he was in the studio I was he like wardrobed was he the TVNZ guy why he's on TVNZ yeah he was in the studio I was in the studio so no they should have
Starting point is 00:15:09 given him a role and I nearly nearly messaged Jack Tame because one of his socks I could see his leg he needed to pull one of his socks up just a bit
Starting point is 00:15:17 because you could see a bit of leg he was doing that for purpose do you think he was for the Tameyites oh okay that'd be right
Starting point is 00:15:22 the Tameyites that's what I call them they're ravaging the Tameyites they love okay. That'd be right. For the Tamiites. That's what I call them. They're ravaging the Tamiites. Yeah, they're very specific demographic. Middle-aged woman. Yeah. What have we become? I've never had a son.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah. It was weird because yesterday you could leave the house, but I just found myself out of habit just watching the 1 o'clock briefing and then still watching the 2 o'clock budget for some reason. Hot. What a hot afternoon. Well, we don't need to be travelling around for the sake of it. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:15:46 You were doing everyone a favour. So top three, Indonesia is number three. Yep. Australia, number two, probably because it's close and we feel like we'll get there
Starting point is 00:15:56 before anywhere else. And the number one place Kiwis are looking at travelling is New Zealand. Good. Good. But that's because I think most people understand that we're not going to be able to go anywhere soon.
Starting point is 00:16:08 See the Queenstown mayor on the news last night? Yes. That was without doubt the funniest thing I saw yesterday. He bungee jumped to say Queenstown's open for business and he was like, Queenstown's open for business and jumped and then he was obviously like, well, what am I going to do because I'm bungee jumping? And he yelled out, Wahoo!
Starting point is 00:16:26 Queenstown! Because the canyon was so quiet at Echo. It was like, Wahoo! Queenstown! And it felt like he was doing his 80th bungee jump. It was just like, oh God. With the mural chains on so they'd probably smack him in the face.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Did you? With the chains on? He was in full Tim Shadbolt-esque Meryl garb. Yeah. I, table tied on. Wahoo! I know,
Starting point is 00:16:50 I do sound like... I'm going to see if I can find the audio. That needs to be their sign now when you drive in. Wahoo! Queenstown.
Starting point is 00:16:57 But you've got to say it like that. Wahoo. Wahoo. Queenstown. But good on, yeah, good on New Zealand
Starting point is 00:17:04 for looking at some local options I mean that's the only option we've got this is a great excuse to get to like Fiordland all these places
Starting point is 00:17:14 that you've always been like I simply must go there and then you see an overseas deal yep and you're like actually I'll go to Thailand for the third time
Starting point is 00:17:22 or it'll be back to Bali for the gram like it's just gonna be so good to get to all these places. Totally. ZM's Fletch Warner Megan, the podcast. Now, I'm prone to exaggeration and I'll admit it. So I can imagine that you may have thought I was really selling it up.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Yep. Stretching the truth when I told you about Queenstown's mayor on the news last night as he bungee jumped saying, wahoo, Queenst up. Yep. Stretching the truth. When I told you about Queenstown's mayor on the news last night, as he bungee jumped saying, wahoo, Queenstown. Yep. And it echoing down a pretty quiet canyon. And it probably been the highlight of my entire day. I was eating.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I cracked up laughing. My kids didn't know why I was laughing. This is Queenstown Lakes District Mayor Jim Bolt doing the bungee to say Queenstown's open for business. This I do for Queenstown Lakes District Mayor Jim Bolt doing the bungee to say Queenstown's open for business. This I do for Queenstown. Queenstown's Mayor Jim Bolt signalling his town's open for business. Woohoo! Queenstown! Tourism now back.
Starting point is 00:18:19 It's better because he did it like an octave up. Woohoo! Queenstown! So when he says this is that... Mayor Jim Bolt signalling his town's open for business. Wahoo! Queenstown! It's so good, isn't it? We need just that, just for this morning.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Wahoo! Wahoo! Queenstown! Hey, you know what? It's worked, though, because we wouldn't be talking about Queenstown, would we, if he hadn't have done that? I didn't know Queenstown was open for business. Now I do. Queenstown's open for business.
Starting point is 00:18:50 They're practising all the usual things everybody else has to. I hope that when you walk into a store, they say, Wahoo! Queenstown! Every time we're coming in and applying or driving in and I see the Welcome to Queenstown sign, now in my head I'm going to say Wahoo! Queenstown!
Starting point is 00:19:07 And people will never know why, it was a weird two seconds on the news on the 14th of May in 2020 that I liked. Prince Charles is taking to social media to tell everyone what his favourite breakfast is. So he obviously doesn't make
Starting point is 00:19:23 this, remember, but his favorite is cheesy baked eggs. And they've shared a recipe. Cheesy baked eggs. Clarence House have shared the recipe. It includes wilted spinach, cherry tomatoes, or sun-dried tomatoes, a strong cheese, an egg, and it looks like a... Sounds like a quiche or a frittata.
Starting point is 00:19:47 It does. It looks like... That sounds like a breakfast quiche. It looks like a lasagna. It looks almost like a... Oh, my God. Breakfast lasagna. But instead of lasagna pasta, you use strips of bacon and hash browns and cheese and eggs.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And a heart attack. Seriously, though, does that not sound amazing, a breakfast lasagna? Yeah. So I think it's like spinach and tomatoes, and then it's got like a cheesy eggy thing over top that makes the... See, that's all right if you're the king. I know. And you've got staff that can make you a cheesy eggs for breakfast every morning.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah. But that's just not happening in the real world, is it? And plus, we just have like Colby. He's got like a list of cheeses I've never heard of before. Oh, what's he got? I love hearing about new cheeses. Tunworth, Golden Senath, or other strong, soft cheeses. Who can he's ever had a cheese slice in plastic?
Starting point is 00:20:47 I hope so. Toneworth is just a camembert style handmade cheese using pasteurised cow's milk and rennet. Okay. Right. So like a camembert. The stuff from the gut, right? We talked about that once and it makes it curdle.
Starting point is 00:21:00 He's having a camembert for breakfast. A camembert egg bake. What are you, the king or something? One day. How is he not fat? Yeah, he's just one of those people that doesn't get fat. Skinny Is that paleo? Well, I wouldn't say that he's like extremely
Starting point is 00:21:15 skins. You know, like he's just I always described him as lanky. Yeah, lanky. Lean and lanky. Yeah, lanky. Lean and lanky. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM.
Starting point is 00:21:30 From the ZM think tank. This is the top six. Hello there. One of the sad things about, well, I mean, there's been many sad things about COVID-19, but a lot of people losing their jobs and the airline industry especially affected. But apparently 34 pilots have applied to switch wings for tracks and become train drivers for the Auckland City Rail Network. Okay. So obviously some transferable skills there for the pilots,
Starting point is 00:22:01 but it will obviously take them a while to fully integrate into train, what do you call a train driver? Train life. What do you mean? Train. Controller. An engineer. I was just thinking the fat controller. Oh, yeah, do you call them engineers?
Starting point is 00:22:14 No, the controller, didn't he? The fat controller or just the controller now that we're not body shaming everyone who looks different to us. Yeah. He never got on the train. He was just. Oh, yeah, right. Train driver.
Starting point is 00:22:26 An overseer, a management. In America, they call them engineers. A train driver, engine driver, or locomotive driver. Right. Engine. But I don't know what they call them in New Zealand. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:37 I mean, this news article I was reading probably should say something. Conductor? No, the conductor's the person that gives the tickets and... All aboard! And says, get your feet off the seat. Tickets, please. That just reminded me, have you seen the new Rick and Morty episodes? No.
Starting point is 00:22:54 The tickets, please. The craziest episode of television I've ever seen in my life. Right, okay. It needs to be rewatched like three times to understand it completely. So the top six ways to tell a pilot is now driving your train. Yep. Engineering your train. Pushing the buttons on your train. Number six.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Are they always telling you the weather at the next train station? Those pilots, they just love telling you what the weather's going to be doing, where you land, but there's significantly larger geographical distance between plane taking off and landing than train stopping and starting every time.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Number five on the list of the top six ways you can tell your pilot. A pilot is now driving your train. They walk on and off at every stop carrying a little briefcase in their uniform just to let you know who the true boss is. They don't need to, but they do that little... What's in the briefcase?
Starting point is 00:23:42 Oh, you can tell by the way he does his walk. Yeah, I've won... His hat. ...several some papers. No, because the hat's always under the arm or on the head. Yeah. They have the manuals in case everything shits itself. Shouldn't that just be in the plane?
Starting point is 00:23:57 It's on an iPad now. Most of it's on an iPad. They're like... Troubleshooting, right. When the battery goes flat on your iPad because they didn't plug it in. Plummeting, here we go. 62. That's what's in the briefcase.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Number four on the list of the top six ways you can tell a pilot is driving your train. The train takes off real quick. Right. Number three on the list of the top six ways to tell a pilot is driving your train, the train takes off real quick. Right. Number three on the list of the top six ways to tell a pilot is driving your train, your phone now has train mode. If you could turn on train mode just while we get up to speed and then put it back in train mode when we start to slow down, that'd be great. Number two on the list of the top six ways to tell a pilot is driving a train,
Starting point is 00:24:44 the onboard announcements are taking way longer Yeah Because it's not like, next stop, Avondale It's like, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard this clickety-clackety choo-choo train We're leaving Linmore I'm shrugging, I don't know I feel like it might just be New Lynn. New Lynn.
Starting point is 00:25:07 We're leaving New Lynn. We're leaving Lynn. We're leaving Lynn's house. Thank you for joining us on board. Clickety clackety choo choo trains. And number one on the list of the top six ways to tell a pilot is driving your train. Every train station now has duty free shopping. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Yes. Pretty good. Damn. God, that'd-free shopping. Oh, yes. Yes. Pretty good. Damn. God, that'd get train patronage up, wouldn't it? Wouldn't it? Someone tell the council. Some cheap gin to grab on the way home from work. Sounds ideal. That is today's top sec.
Starting point is 00:25:35 ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Southern Cross Pet Insurance, they have obviously all the stats on the doggy insurance claims. They've revealed what the naughtiest breed of dog is in New Zealand. And I'd say this is probably the same worldwide. The naughtiest doggy is a Labrador. And then I guess any kind of cross of that, a Labradoodle. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I think the word you're looking for is the dumbest dog is the Labrador. Are they dumb? They're too, like, they will eat them. One of the few dog breeds that will eat themselves to death. Like, if food's in front of them, they'll eat and eat and eat and eat and eat and eat and just not stop. Beagles are like that. Very much food driven and they'll eat anything.
Starting point is 00:26:21 That's how our beagle died eating rat poison. Probably why these dogs are so trainable for some of the, because you say beagle, I say Labrador, and I said dumb, but they do hold. One of those dogs, guide dogs, drug dogs, prison dogs. So they're not dumb, they just love food. So yeah, exactly that.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Some of the claims that Labradors have got themselves into, swallowing fish hooks, eating undies is a popular one, eating underwear. Why are they eating undies? They're just eating everything. It's because of the smell of undies. Right. It 100% is.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yeah, right. Eating rubber gloves was another one. Because rubber gloves might have touched food or something that had a rank smell to it. The fish hooks, the reason they eat fish hooks is... Tastes like fish? Yeah, because it's got something on it. They are dumb.
Starting point is 00:27:11 So, yeah, lots of gastrointestinal disorders and bowel obstructions. But the naughtiest dog, but also one of the cutest. They'd be one of the most popular dogs too, wouldn't they? Good family dog. In New Zealand, yep. So the second most common in New Zealand for registered dogs. Yep.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Register your dog. For registered dogs is the Border Collie, and there's like 10,000 more Labradors than there are Border Collies. Oh, wow. And the most popular dog in the world. Is the Labrador? Yep, I'm just reading here. Labradors, German Shepherds, then Golden Retrievers.
Starting point is 00:27:45 But they can get so big and heavy. And then if they're going to jump on you, it's just not down for a big dog. Just need a little one. All right, joining us on the show soon, your mum, Megan. Yeah, we're going to put to her a few questions that people have asked. I can't guarantee her answers are always going to be positive. In fact, I don't even know what's going to come out of her mouth. She tells it like it is, though.
Starting point is 00:28:06 She does. And you may have noticed I've been sick for a few days. Tell you about one of the more unusual aspects of that time off. All right, ZM. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast, ZM. I've been sick for a few days. Monday after the show, I had at home, have you been paying attention to record?
Starting point is 00:28:27 We recorded that a couple of days in advance to give the editors more time to deal with what can only be described as a cluster fudge. Megan really thought you were going to say that. I was like, you've been off for a few days. I don't know if you know what we can and can't say. I've forgotten. That is not one of say. I've forgotten.
Starting point is 00:28:45 That is not one of them. I forgot. Speaking about saying a swearies, did you see the health ministers? Yeah, he forgot the crucial last syllable of the word countries. We've all done that though, haven't we? No, not like that. I've done that. No, I've said the actual word, but I just didn't know the microphone was on. In my defense.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Yeah, great times. If you stutter halfway through a country, it's really not great. Yeah. Oh, we're the people. It's only a matter of time until they're talking about the strong front up and down the country.
Starting point is 00:29:15 They have to do it so often that it's only a matter of time until they do do it. So, yeah, that was recorded on Monday. After that record, Sade said to me, you look weird. And I said,
Starting point is 00:29:24 it's always nice to have a compliment from your wife. And I took my temperature and I had like a 38 and a half degree temperature. Which is higher than what it should be. How do you have a temperature thingy? When you've got kids. So we had the one
Starting point is 00:29:39 they were like, stick it under the kid's armpit and hold it there. But that was a waste. So we got one of those ones that goes in your ear like a doctor. And you click the button and it goes and hold it there. But that was a waste. So we got one of those ones that goes in your ear like a doctor. And you click the button and it goes, and then it tells you your temperature. Do you have to put on a new plastic thing every time? We've got a big thing of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:55 But we don't worry too much about it. Like I'm the only one using it when I'm done with my sickness. If we were changing it round. Right. Change it off. Otherwise raw dog. But if like three of us were sick at once and we were going from, yeah, we'd just transfer it, you around. Right. Change it off. Otherwise, raw dog. But if like three of us were sick at once
Starting point is 00:30:05 and we were going from, yeah, we'd just transfer it, you know, hear the nudity and that. So I was the only one using it and I was like, yeah, okay, that's weird. And then that night I woke up
Starting point is 00:30:16 and I was hissing sweat. Like I had sweat the bed. Like wash the mattress protector. Oh, why? Was that bad? Lean the mattress against. Oh, why? It was that bad? Lean the mattress against the ranch slider, sort of,
Starting point is 00:30:28 let it see some sun situation. Oh, wow. I felt like I truly pissed myself. Like, did you wake up and you think, oh my God, I have?
Starting point is 00:30:35 Or no? No, because I knew I was hot. And that night, I took my temperature and it was like 39.9, which is like, quite bad.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Right, what's boiling point? 40. 40 is the one that they, when, I don't know about adults, but when you're a kid, when you've got kids, they're always like if a 40 degree temperature happens, that's, you know, get them in a cool bath or whatever. Yeah. Try to bring it down.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Get on your pammels. Yeah. So, and the next morning when I woke up, Tuesday morning, I had an aching back and neck and I was like, oh my God, I'm going to have to go get the COVID test. Yeah. And I just wanted to be, it was one of those things, I read about the symptoms and they said it could be some of these symptoms, it could be all of these symptoms. I was like, well, got to know.
Starting point is 00:31:14 Got a family, got a job and everything, so I've got to know. So I went and got in the queue outside that little pop-up white tent thing that I've got going on. How many people were in the queue? So when I got there, there were 12 cars ahead of me. Wow. And when I left, there was a quiet period. And then when I left, there was another like eight, nine cars.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Wow. So you pull in. This is how it went for me. By the way, some of them are gone now. Oh, yeah. They've packed up some of the stations. So if you're not feeling well and you want to go get a test, Google whereabouts your district health board's doing the test
Starting point is 00:31:47 because I know that they've pulled back on the numbers. Right, okay. Of the testing station. So you pull in. A guy comes up and he holds up a little card and it said, call this number. Oh, yeah. So on my phone I called the number and they take all the details.
Starting point is 00:32:01 What if you need a top-up? Will they give you a top-up? I hadn't thought about that. It was an 021, so it wasn't like it was an 0800 number. Okay. I hadn't thought about that. Yeah. Maybe you could WhatsApp them.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Yeah. That'd have to be available on. Yeah, right. I hadn't even thought about it. Maybe you could say, I've got no credit. Yeah. I don't know. So they take all your details, and then you pull up,
Starting point is 00:32:25 and then you wind down your window, and some guy from a distance asks you a couple more questions and then you drive around and you park up and someone comes out in PPE. And I was thinking, granted, we've had relatively low cases. Yeah. But every time they administer the test, they're potentially exposing themselves to somebody. Of course.
Starting point is 00:32:42 That's why they're heroes. They're doing a great job. And they do it all day. They've been doing it all day for weeks. So I said to the lady, oh, how many tests? I don't know if she just wanted to ram this thing up my nose and have it done with, but she chatted back. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Said, oh, how many tests? And she said, oh, on Saturday was our busy day. We did 140. Oh, yeah. That was just her. Right, okay. And 140. There were two nurses working. Oh wow. So that's
Starting point is 00:33:06 a phenomenal amount of tests at one station. Yep. And then she's like, okay, so this is going to go up your nose. Yeah. She did not show me the length of the swab. Like, it wasn't like, this is going to go up your nose, and she showed me. She was like, oh, so what's going to happen is you're going to tilt your head back.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I'm going to go up your nose. It's going to feel weird. You're going to want to sneeze and cough and stuff if you can hold off. That'd be great. Yeah. And then she's like, tilt your head back. Yeah. And so I tilt my head back. And I was like, I didn't even think about it until later.
Starting point is 00:33:34 But she totally didn't want me to see the length of the swab because it would be off-putting. Yeah. And then I tilt my head back and she was like, okay, it's just going in now. And I was like, oh, yeah, I can feel it. And it kept going. And she's like, nearly there. Nearly there. Nearly now. And I was like, oh yeah, I can feel it. And it kept going and she's like, nearly there. Nearly there. Oh!
Starting point is 00:33:47 Nearly there. I didn't know my nose went so far back. You're right. Yeah, where does it go? And yeah, up to where your nose meets your throat opening. Oh, that's why sometimes if you have a squirt of a nasal spray, you can taste it in your throat. Yeah, or if you vom, you know, sometimes you get it weird and you can...
Starting point is 00:34:02 Yeah, like that guy at high school that could do a two-minute noodle up his nose and into his throat. Yeah, and out his mouth. Yeah. And then go... And go like that, yeah. He had great gag reflex because all I felt like doing when it was in there was I was like, I'm going to go...
Starting point is 00:34:16 Yeah. But I could hold off. But then she's like, okay, so now I'm going to turn it. She didn't say how many times she was going to turn it. Okay. So I was thinking three turns. Yeah, okay. And when it got to three Okay. So I was thinking three turns. Yeah, okay. And when it got to three,
Starting point is 00:34:26 I thought, must be five turns. Yeah. When it got to five, I thought, I don't know how many turns. Ten turns. It's actually making me queasy
Starting point is 00:34:32 even just you talking about that. Ten turns, and then she's like, okay, I'm just going to pull it out slowly now and on the way out, you can kind of feel it snaking out.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Now, it was uncomfortable. Yeah. But it was done. Yeah. And then they're like, if it's positive, we'll call you. If it's negative, we'll text you three to five days. Okay. And I thought, most people I know have had it done, have had it in two days,
Starting point is 00:34:56 had the text back. So I went home, you know, burrowed down. It was the next day. Yeah, right. Pretty much 24 hours later that I got the text saying, your tests have come back, you're negative. And ever since, I've been hearing from everybody. My doctor let me know.
Starting point is 00:35:11 They've let me know like three times I'm negative. Pretty sure my dentist has been in touch. I just get these weird text messages. And I don't know who they're coming from. It's just like, Kia ora, Vaughan. Great news, negative. Okay, great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Yeah. It's amazing they can turn it around that fast though. It's amazing they can turn it around that fast though. It's fantastic they can turn it around that fast. So yeah, I'd say if you've got any of the symptoms, just go get it. It was quite a good peace of mind. Yeah, totally. Because the kids have been over everything that's happened with COVID. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:41 But when, I didn't think I had it. Because I didn't have a cough at all and apparently the sore throat's the number one symptom but I wanted to be sure but yeah like when the kids are like
Starting point is 00:35:52 do you think you've got it daddy are you going to be okay have you got COVID I was like and then when it came through saying no I would have like officially said to them
Starting point is 00:35:58 nothing to worry about just a fever that yeah so yeah I'm still sweating a lot I can't take off this sweatshirt that I'm still sweating a lot. I can't take off the sweatshirt that I'm wearing because I've definitely got the hugest sweatpants you can imagine. And I chose a very poor colour to wear with the chance of sweet.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Grey. Like a purpley. Can you just take it off just to show us? Like a light purple. I just want to see. Nah, let's not. Let's not. Nah, you don't need to see that.
Starting point is 00:36:24 ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Hey, Ray Ray. What would you say? Good morning, Mum. Good morning. We've had a few people correspond, correspondence from a few people regarding questions for you to help them.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Oh, goodness, I'm going to be like Aunt Daisy, aren't I? Wait, wait, can you hear the can aren't I? Wait, wait, wait. Can you hear the canaries? I did hear them before, yeah. Oh, they're, yeah. How do you live with birds in the house, Ray Ray? That'd drive me bloody crazy. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:36:59 No. When he's in full fetal, he's a bit of a pain. Oh, Christ. Oh, God, it's like when the fire alarm's running on the batteries and it starts chirping and he's like non fetal, he's a bit of a pain. Oh, Christ. Oh, God. It's like when the fire alarm's running in a battery and it starts chirping and he's like non-stop. Well, mum had a cockatiel and he always used to say, piss off, piss off, and that was worse still.
Starting point is 00:37:14 See, that would be funny. That would be entertainment value. But stupid little birds in a cage inside. Oh, no offence. Yeah. When he loses his feathers, that drives me nuts. But, yeah, he's a bit... He looks like a little singing rat in the cage.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Oh. Excuse me. Yeah. OK. Yeah. All right, Ray, Ray, we've had some correspondence. Let's start. OK.
Starting point is 00:37:37 First question. How do you... Oh. How do you keep the passion and romance alive in a long-term relationship? Keep in mind, in mind your daughter. Oh, well, you know, that's easy. You always wear a deodorant.
Starting point is 00:37:51 You don't become sloppy. And you always shave. Sorry, Vaughan. Because, you know, whiskers and intimacy don't mix. Oh! Is that where I've gone wrong? So let me get this. Dad's got whiskers at the moment, too, because he's been in lockdown and he hasn't been shaving.
Starting point is 00:38:07 I know and they are revolting. I turn over and I look and I think, who's this old fart? So he hasn't been getting any action in lockdown then by your... No, no, I haven't finished. Passion, I need birthdays and Christmas. So keep them wanting. Yeah, treat them and keep them keen.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Yeah, okay. And if all else fails, will you go to leather and lace? Oh. Wow. Wow. Should we deep dive into that? No. No.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Okay, question number two I guess that explains what's in the bottom drawer, Megan What's the right amount And that locked cupboard What locked cupboard? Exactly, haven't found it yet Oh God What is the right amount to spend on an engagement ring
Starting point is 00:38:57 And how do I know which one to pick? Well, I don't really know about that Because we did ours ask about faith we went and got married first and then we went to live in Australia and then he said, oh we might look at getting an engagement ring but I don't know, it seems that sometimes I look at the rings today and I think it seems a lot of money to spend
Starting point is 00:39:19 when you've got other things to buy and I always kind of think you get a lovely big ball ball, how's that going to go down on your spend? The toilet. Yeah, true. And I mean, when all's said and done, you buy this big ring, and is the ring a sign of your love? Oh, that's very sweet, Marley.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Men are loving hearing this. Yeah, they are. They're going to want that written down. Okay, so you're saying a ring for under $100, Ray Ray? Yeah. Yeah, okay, great. I don't think she was questioning that, Lola. The other thing is, of course, is who's buying.
Starting point is 00:39:53 If you're buying, well, you can see what you want. But if he's buying, well, yeah, I mean, you get the biggest one for the least money. How did you make this? This thing Megan I'm looking at. Like, she would want the biggest, most expensive ring ever. How did you make this? This thing Megan I'm looking at. Like she would want the biggest most expensive ring ever. I know. I tried to tell her she could have bought a Maserati
Starting point is 00:40:11 but she didn't listen. She wishes. I wish. How do I get my kids to stop annoying me? They're seven and three. Are they boy and girl?
Starting point is 00:40:27 Girls, two girls, two boys? We don't know. We've only got the ages. Only got the ages. Well, you see, it's very difficult because one knows everything and one knows nothing. So you've got to make sure. You've got to keep them occupied.
Starting point is 00:40:40 If it's girls, maybe, I don't know, get them through cooking. Oh, my God. You should let those birds out, Ray-Ray. They don't sound happy. That's only one. I used to have three. Can you imagine the noise? No, I can because it was my childhood.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Oh God. Bring it in my ears. Your cat would love that. Are bird people worse than cat people and miniature dog owners? Yeah. Cat people are pretty bad. I don't know, we're all nuts, aren't we? Yeah. I'm not wrong. Dogs probably, dog owners
Starting point is 00:41:10 are probably the worst. Yeah. Okay, Ray Ray, great advice. Thanks, Mum. A fantastic round of what would Ray Ray say? We'll let you get back to your birds. And your leather and lace. And your leather and lace, because, you know. Yeah, always. And the next photo we see of your husband online, if he's clean shaven, we you know. Yeah. Always. And the next photo we see of your husband online,
Starting point is 00:41:25 if he's clean shaven, we'll assume. Yeah. Always be lucky. Always assume. Yes, always assume. Okay. Have a good day. Thanks, Mum.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Bye. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. We talked to her before lockdown about our relationships, and now it feels only fitting to chat to her again. Margot Regan is a relationship and sex therapist. She joins us now. Good morning. Good morning. How are you? We're good. Good, good.
Starting point is 00:41:53 So Margot, people have spent lockdown, a lot of people, away from their partner. What if we really enjoyed that? First of all, is that a good thing? Does that mean that you're not good together or is that healthy for a relationship? You know what? Some of us are lone wolves and some of us are pack animals. This is something a lot I see in my practice.
Starting point is 00:42:17 It's really balancing that autonomy, my freedom, my independence and my need for connection with my partner. We're at different, sometimes we're at different ends of the stick when it comes to that, you know? Yeah. So how do you think you talk to your partner if you really like value your alone time,
Starting point is 00:42:40 but they love to socialize a lot? How do you navigate that? Yeah, I think it's recognizing it. Where am I? Am I an introvert? Am I an extrovert? Is being around other people battery charging for me? Is it battery draining? And where's my sense of, where's my sense of, you know, identity? Do I, do I know what my needs are, what my wants are, and how good am I at communicating that to my partner? That's, I love that battery charging, battery charging. I think that varies from person to person though, because I think some people you hang out with the battery charging and
Starting point is 00:43:16 then others might be battery draining, but I love the analogy. I don't know why she looked at us when she said draining, we got a real glare there, didn't we? Do you have some tips for us surviving out of level two, going forward with our relationships? I think good communication and emotional intelligence is key. You know, in my work, I think people that have had time on their own,
Starting point is 00:43:49 they recognise why we actually crave partnership and connection with another. You know, I'm seeing a lot of people that are experiencing loneliness at the moment, and it's really motivating them to be in connection. What's my why with my partner? Right. What is it? Yeah. What are they giving me that sense of connection or friendship of you know if there's two of us in this together we're better able to fight off other stressors research shows that
Starting point is 00:44:13 touch from a partner we feel less pain it's an experiment done on that and we hold our partner's yeah so if they touch you and you feel pain, it's not good then? Yeah. Yeah, I will be booking in a session. Have you had a lot more bookings of people who need counselling coming out of lockdown? A lot more bookings. You know what I'm seeing? A lot of it is single people as well. Like loneliness is a real epidemic.
Starting point is 00:44:42 And even in a relationship with a partner if you're not feeling connection it can be a really lonely place to be in yeah especially if you've had to be stuck with them for seven weeks yeah exactly you know what I'm surprised I see a lot of people
Starting point is 00:44:57 it's built them really stronger and they've gone okay this has highlighted our addiction to busyness but our addiction to busyness we've ignored the problems in our relationship. And being in close quarters confinement like this has just highlighted, okay, it's time to do something about this.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Do I want to continue living like this or do I want to make a change? Yeah. Wow. Well, if any of that has resonated with you and you think Margot can help you, relationshipcounselingtherapy.com. Margot, thanks so much for joining us this morning.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Thank you, guys. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. We're joined on the phone by, should we call him Adopted New Zealander? Yeah. And star of Netflix's latest reality show, Too Hot to Handle. It's the naughty possum South, Harry Jowsey. Good morning, everyone. How are we?
Starting point is 00:45:44 Now, since we last spoke to you, Harry Jowsey, you had like 10 Instagram followers, and now you've got how many million now? 3.2? 3.3? 3.3 million. Yeah. Yeah, wow.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Good Lord. Yeah. How's your DMs? Yeah, chaotic. It's actually crazy. There's been a your DMs? Yeah, chaotic. It's actually crazy. There's been a lot of people reach out, but no. Now we say, I am a taken man.
Starting point is 00:46:16 No siree, no thank you, lady or man. Keep your nudes. That's my exact response. Word for word. You can tell by the way I tripped and fumbled through that, this doesn't happen to me very often. Slash at all. Have people actually been DMing you nudes?
Starting point is 00:46:36 Like, I mean, you've got 3.3 million followers. There must have been the odd nudie. I've actually seen some... It's very interesting because I've seen some very weird videos that I didn't expect or want from random girls around the world. I've been like, very overwhelming. Wow. Some of the stuff. I feel like for you to say that, it's like, that means it's very...
Starting point is 00:46:56 Yeah. I kind of want to see, but I don't. No, it's too much for the old naughty pops. No, you don't. So I remember the last time we were speaking to you about, you know, little old New Zealand and, you know, the little old TV show, Heartbreak Island, and now look at you. It's a bit of a glow up, hey?
Starting point is 00:47:16 You've gone global. Yeah, it's nuts. I don't know. It all happened at once as well. So it's mind-blowing. So are you engaged now? I don't actually know. I'm just trying to figure that one out.
Starting point is 00:47:34 I think so, but there's no ring on my finger. We've spoken about it and we've got a shared folder where we have rings that we want or that she wants that I forget obviously um but yeah so the conversation is there but we just kind of have to see each other first so I can actually do it yeah so whereabouts are you guys at the moment because obviously you know pandemic going on are you guys doing long distance yeah so she's in Vancouver I'm in LA at the minute um and yeah we've kind of just been forced into a long distance relationship, which is awesome.
Starting point is 00:48:10 So right after the show, were you two together? What happened like right afterwards? So I came back to Auckland and then I went and saw her in Vancouver and then she came to my hometown in Australia and then we broke up for like eight or nine months and then we both saw people in between. And then I got drunk and decided to text her that I wanted to FaceTime her dog and then next thing you know, we're back on.
Starting point is 00:48:37 What kind of dog is she going to? You can talk your way out of anything, I swear. Yeah, imagine like I haven't spoken to her in a whole year. That was, like, the first thing I said to her. And I'm like, hey, we just really love to FaceTime your dog. Just this little fluffy thing. Wow. See, now that you just know it as a little fluffy thing,
Starting point is 00:48:57 I'm beginning to see this was just a trick. I see through it. The contestants on Too Hot to Handle, do you still keep in contact with all of them? Are you guys all mates? Yeah, we've all got a big group chat where we all chat. Obviously, it's 15 or whatever different personalities, so not everyone's going to gel,
Starting point is 00:49:16 but we're all friends and we're all friendly. So, yeah, it's pretty cool. It's definitely a really cool cast and really cool to be a part of it. I was just wondering because you two obviously cost people a lot of money after hooking up all the time. We made it back. So I've been attacking everyone else that they spent money.
Starting point is 00:49:35 I've been like, you guys suck. You've spent so much money. We could have had way more. But, yeah, I'm so toxic. But you made it. So what next? I mean, the reunion show is done. Do they have you lined up for anything else?
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah, in the Netflix. Signed up to do the wedding? So there's a few things in the works at the moment. I just have to play my cards right and hopefully I should be good to go for once this is all over. Harry, we're not going to tell anyone. It's just us. We need an exclusive, Harry.
Starting point is 00:50:10 It's just us. Okay, look, we were there from the start, mate. We supported you with that little TVNZ show. And you've got to give us something, you know, headlining here. Some scandal. I don't want to count my chickens before they hatch, you know? Okay. So there are chickens.
Starting point is 00:50:28 There are chickens. Huh. Interesting. Guaranteed another couple of million followers if he doesn't balls this up. Yeah. So do you think you'll actually get married? Yeah, I actually think I will get married one day. You know what I'm asking you.
Starting point is 00:50:47 I'm just not sure how soon it will be with all this stuff. Yeah, no, I definitely want to marry her. Oh, that's so cute. Well, I'm happy for you. That's good. That'll be a headline. I'll send that up to the Herald. He definitely wants to marry her.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Send that up to the Herald right now. Yeah. No, we're happy for you. This is for Ricardo. He'll love it. Yeah. Happy. Send that up to the Herald right now. Yeah. No, we're happy for you. This is for Ricardo. He'll love it. Yeah. Happy for you that you've found love. Happy for you that you've got, I don't know, how much is it?
Starting point is 00:51:11 3.2 male followers. Three. Three point, yeah, okay. No, we're really happy for you. Enjoyed the show. Thanks, Harry. Oh, hey, where's Caitlin gone? Oh, no, so she went to, she moved back to Krushage to study nursing.
Starting point is 00:51:24 She's going to become a nurse. Wow. Oh, my God. Yeah, she's the one that got away, Matt. Would you say that? Harry, would you say she's the one that got away? She definitely is the one that got away. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:51:36 There's our headline. There's our headline. New Zealand Netflix star pines for Kiwi nurse, the one that got away. Yes. Perfect. Yes. Perfect. Thank you. Nice. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Hey, thanks, Harry. Cheers, guys. Much love. I'll chat to you later. Fletchforn and Megan, the podcast. ZM. Friday Flashback. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:03 So this song. I didn't know I just looked up to see if it was in there, and I know it's... It's not in there. I know it's one that's going to piss Fletch off when you haven't put it in yet. Because, you know, I don't like really old flashback Fridays. Fletch, what you need to do in this song...
Starting point is 00:52:17 Yep. ...is you need to fast forward until there's only 2 minutes 34 left in the song. How do I do that? I don't know. So you only play the last two minutes. You're always saying how important your job is and how you control everything.
Starting point is 00:52:30 So I'm imagining, I'm sorry to hear, fast forwarding is beyond your... I can do it, but this is very odd. The last two minutes 34 of the song. How long is this? And why wouldn't we play the first bit of the song? It's, well, I've discussed this with the producers. Yeah. There's like a talking intro to the song? It's, well, I've discussed this with the producers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:45 There's like a talking intro to the song. It's quite a bit of an older song. So are you capable of that? Oh, but crying out loud. Yes, I am. A talking intro. Oh, we're not playing this song. I'm afraid we most certainly are.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I'm still in the dark. We're not playing this. It's like 800 years old. It's like 800 years old. It's not 800 years old. How old is it? 60s? 70s? Did you ask Ross Fox?
Starting point is 00:53:11 Yeah, no, he told me this was the one because I went to him with the artist. Oh, for F's sake. This week, the end of this, so the 12th, so a couple of days ago, was the end of Nurses Week. So how much has to be left on the song? Two minutes 34 needs to be left on the end. So fast forward until there's only two minutes. Don't go two minutes 34 into the song.
Starting point is 00:53:33 It has to be two minutes 34 back from the end. So there is now two minutes 34 of the song left to play. Perfect. So the person that recorded the song, wrote the song, was a nurse. Well, I know this person. How famous is this?
Starting point is 00:53:51 100%. Yeah, this person is very, very, very famous. How did they have time to be a nurse? They were a nurse before they kind of, straight after they, they had a pretty rough upbringing. Their mum just kind of abandoned them. They lived with their grandma.
Starting point is 00:54:05 When they finished high school, they became a nurse in a maternity ward. Oh, wow. Before they were discovered qualified. Yeah. Qualified to be a nurse. And I just thought it's been a hell of a time for nurses lately. Even though we haven't had a huge amount of COVID cases in New Zealand, there have been COVID cases.
Starting point is 00:54:24 And just how careful and diligent nurses have had to have been lately. Absolute heroes. Is completely admirable. They were heroes before this happened. Now, good Lord. So this one's for the nurses. What? I sort of know what it is.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Tina Turner. Proud Mary. Yes. Is today's Friday flashback. Enjoy. Enjoy. We'll be right back. Cleaned a lot of plates in Memphis, yeah Bound a lot of train down in New Orleans But I never saw the good side of a city
Starting point is 00:55:42 Till I hit the ride on the riverboat queen Then we'll keep on turnin', turnin' Yeah, we'll keep on burnin', burnin' Rollin', rollin', yeah Rollin' on the river Rollin', rollin', rollin' on the river Hey! River
Starting point is 00:56:02 All right! Yeah! river river river river river river river river river river
Starting point is 00:56:20 river river river river We'll be right back. Rolling, rolling on the river, river. Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo. Whoo! All right. Come on, give me one more chance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rolling.
Starting point is 00:56:55 All right. All right, yeah. Rolling, yeah. Rolling, yeah. Rolling on the river. Give me one more chance. Rolling, yeah. Rolling. Whoo!back on ZM. Terrible song.
Starting point is 00:57:11 That's a classic. Worst Friday Flashback ever. I've seen that live. Have you? How? When she came to Nelson. Years ago. Yeah, that season.
Starting point is 00:57:22 She's not touring anymore, eh? I was really little. The legs. Amazing legs. Yeah, that says it all. She's not touring anymore, eh? I was very little. The legs. Amazing legs. Yeah, right. Are phenomenal legs. Amazing. I can't believe you're on board with Cher,
Starting point is 00:57:30 but you're not on board with Tina Turner. They're like... How dare you? No, way different. Way different. Duh, duh. Can you have one without the other? No.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Absolutely, you can. It's like ham and cheese. Individually, they're both fantastic. Yeah, right. But put them together, magical. But then I do like that she... I didn't know she was a nurse, and I do like that angle to celebrate the nurses. Somebody said,
Starting point is 00:57:51 I'm a nurse, and Proud Mary is such a tune in the nursing industry. Is it? This is not news to them. Have you heard, slight tangent here, but so there's, I read this thing about hospitals in New York and apparently it's happening around the world as well, is that
Starting point is 00:58:08 there's always, since COVID-19 there's been a lot more, the speaker in the hospital has been a lot more active and there's a lot more buzzing and horrible things. So they've started this trend
Starting point is 00:58:19 in some hospitals when a patient is cleared of COVID-19 and released, they play a certain song and it's different hospital to hospital. Right. And they said they played over the loudspeaker when a patient is cleared of COVID-19 and released, they play a certain song. Oh, okay. And it's different hospital to hospital. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And they said they played over the loudspeaker and they just played the hook of the song. So like Empire State of Mind was for a hospital in New York. Yeah. Summer Over the Rainbow was another one. Like just really feel good songs. And the nurses who worked there said it was just so nice to hear a song that reflected happiness
Starting point is 00:58:48 because they knew that meant one person got to go home to their family. That's so nice. Somebody else said... Stone Cold Bro, but obviously. No, he was thinking, that'd be annoying. If you were in hospital, that'd be annoying, hearing that song every time. Over and over.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Get a new song. Same, but over and over. And, you know, someone else be annoying, hearing that song every time. Over and over. Get a new song. Same bit over and over. And, you know, someone else is going home and I'm stuck here. Imagine out in West Auckland, the hospital does it. It's like Papa Roach. Turn my life into pieces. This is my last resort. I don't think that song's appropriate at all.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Suffocation, no breathing. No, I don't think that's appropriate. I don't know. West Auckland for me. I don't like the rules, do I? It'd be Metallica or something. Sure. Somebody else said this always plays...
Starting point is 00:59:30 Another nurse. This always plays at work functions and everyone loves it. I don't know why it always plays at work functions, but people always love it. You know what? You said bad, but there's... Overwhelming support.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Overwhelming positive feedback. Yeah, right. I'm proud of Mary. ZM's Fletch, but there's overwhelming support. Overwhelming positive feedback. Yeah, right. I'm proud of Mary. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Want to discuss Adele right now. Nothing to do with what she looks like, just where she's living. I heard she was embarrassed by how much weight she lost.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Did you see that story? No, she's embarrassed of the attention. Well, yeah, you would be. Yeah. I don't think she's ever really been a massive one on personal attention, obviously, because she didn't. She kept the marriage secret. She kept her pregnancy secret.
Starting point is 01:00:17 So she has, well, her and her partner have separated. They're divorced. And now they live across the street from each other. So there was rumours that it was a bit of a messy divorce, that he got millions of dollars because they didn't have a prenuptial agreement. Yeah, right. Kind of being that messy because, yeah, across the road from each other now
Starting point is 01:00:33 to help co-parent their son, Angelo, who is seven. I mean, if you could afford it, that would be great to co-parent, wouldn't it? You still get your own house. Yeah. I mean, not everyone can afford to live across the road from Adele, I imagine. No, no.
Starting point is 01:00:44 And when we say across the road, I don't think it to live across the road from a day, I imagine. No. And when we say across the road, I don't think it's quite across the road like we know it to be. Across the mansion road. Across the acres. Yeah, the acres and acres. When they bring home their new partner, you wouldn't want to see it all, would you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:59 So, I don't know if this would work for everyone, but she's also said that her new music isn't going to be talking too much about their relationship for the sake of their son because he's going to be able to listen to the music and hear about his dad. So pretty healthy, it seems for them living across the road from each other.
Starting point is 01:01:15 But off the back of this, I wanted to know if anyone else is living close to their ex. I know because that's the thing. If it doesn't end amicably, then you are going to, it's going to be awkward. You might have to go
Starting point is 01:01:29 out of your way to change your routines so you don't leave for work at the same time. And not, everyone's Adele rich so it's not like you can just move
Starting point is 01:01:35 for the sake of it. You might be stuck. If you had kids, you'd want to make it as easy as possible, right? Yeah. Yeah. So how close do you live
Starting point is 01:01:43 to your ex? Or maybe your ex moved in close to you. And he didn't know, she didn't know, and it just happened. Well, the news that Adele lives over the road from her ex-husband because she's rich enough just to buy the house over the road. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And they are co-parenting, so it makes things easier. But we wanted to know how close you live to your ex. Sarah, how close do you live to your ex? So this is a couple of years ago. I moved in with my partner not knowing that he lived with two of my exes. So I lived with two of my exes and my partner. How did you just move in without doing a visit first? Oh, it was one of those things like it was agreed that he was moving in that weekend
Starting point is 01:02:25 and I was moving out of home to move in with him not knowing who his flatmates were but he said they were his friends so I was just like, that's cool. Wait, you were moving in with a guy not knowing that he was friends with your exes? I knew, I just didn't realise I was going to live with them.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Surely if he's like, these are my friends, you'd be like, not the ones that I've seen. Yeah, yeah. So did that make it awkward or was it fine? It lasted about a year and then things got pretty nasty and they got kicked out.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Oh, right. Okay, so they got kicked out. Wow. Cool. Yeah. Are you still with them? I'm actually engaged to him now, yes.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Oh, okay. Now, are they coming to the wedding? No. They're not even friends anymore? No, actually. It completely cut cords after that situation. Sounds juicy. Doesn't it, doesn't it?
Starting point is 01:03:17 Hey, Sarah, thanks for your call. Liz, you live next to your ex or near your ex? Yeah, we do. So me and my husband brought our first home right before lockdown. Yeah. And we were driving around and just kind of having a look at the area, getting really excited. And I saw my ex in the driveway by my house. And I thought, he must be visiting.
Starting point is 01:03:43 It's kind of weird. And then I saw him again. And then I realized, oh, no, he lives there. He lives literally six houses down. And does he own the house, or is he renting? He does. No, he owns the house. So we're both kind of stuck there, and we have to do that awkward, like, oh, I've seen you, but we're going to pretend that we didn't see each other
Starting point is 01:04:03 when we bumped into each other at the supermarket. It's just very bizarre. So it didn't end well with the ex, I take it? No, I ended up packing up and moving out at midnight one night, just having a huff. Didn't see Tom again after that, so now we get this awkward... And does your new partner know he lives there? Yeah, I told him
Starting point is 01:04:25 and he thinks it's hilarious. You would though, it is, it's hilarious. Thanks you, cool. Let's ask some text messages. Somebody said that they moved out of the country because they thought it would be the last they'd see of their ex. And then they saw on their Facebook that
Starting point is 01:04:42 they were planning their OE to the exact same country and they were like, well, it's a big country. It wasn't. They weren't too far away from them at all. But then they didn't say what country. But then if it was England and London, like Kiwis seem to congregate in certain areas of London, right? Yeah, they go to the same kind of suburbs. Yeah, and then you'll see them at the Waitangi Day pub crawl.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Yeah. And then you see them at, what's that bloody Australian bar? Walkabout? Is that what it's called? Outback or Walkabout. Yeah, I know the one you're talking about. Walkabout, that Australian bar that they all seem to go to. I was working in a hostel.
Starting point is 01:05:15 I dated a girl for a few weeks, but then she got hired, and we weren't allowed to date the people we worked with. Yep. So she'd just been a visitor. Then she became an employee. We were three beds away. It was hard when she had men over. Wait a minute. So this is a room where you can have
Starting point is 01:05:34 I don't know. Intergender rooms and people engage in Yeah, it's called hostelling, Vaughn. I never really thought about it, but I always imagined hostels were like school camps, like boys in one room, girls in another. It depends. Some hostels are, but some are mixed.
Starting point is 01:05:51 But then also like try and tell adults what to do. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, right. Well, like Megan knows, she's never stayed in a hostel in her life. No, does that place where we all, down in Oakurney once, I think that was like a hostel and I hated it
Starting point is 01:06:06 and I swore never to do anything like that again. Yeah, but that was a private, that was a private, that was just work. That wasn't technically a hostel. No, that wasn't a hostel. No, it wasn't with work. It was where we went skiing one time and there were lots of strangers staying in the same area. Oh, that was horrible.
Starting point is 01:06:21 I hated it. It's like a bigger hostel. And then, yeah, no, you had to share the shower and share the kitchen. I was like, absolutely not. Would you ever stay with me? Yeah. Spice it up. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:06:35 I'm not saying your marriage needs spicing up. But, like, Mr. Toyboy and you pretend you don't know each other. Oh, yeah, okay. And you just happen to be checking into the same hostel. Do we have to go to the hostel? Yeah, you have to. Oh no. And then would you,
Starting point is 01:06:48 no, okay. You wouldn't be like, oh my God, where are you from? I would go there to pick someone up or talk to someone but I won't get naked anywhere in that hostel.
Starting point is 01:06:56 You'd be in the showers. You'd be a never nude. You'd wear like togs in the showers. You can pretend to be a Swedish backpacker and he can be backpacking from South Africa.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Okay, I'm going to knock on the hostel door and take him out somewhere else. You'd be like, you're coming with me. I just don't like it. And he's fresh from South Africa. He'll think he's been kidnapped. See how deep I get into this? You really do take your role plays serious.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Don't break character. We set a time limit and we do not break character for however long we agreed upon. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Just before we get into the fact of the day, we were talking behind the scenes about true crime and Megan... Fletch blew our mind
Starting point is 01:07:35 when he said sanguation to sanguate and we were like, what are you talking about? And that's where this is grim, but like a butcher would butcher an animal and hang it and you bleed it so there's no blood in there
Starting point is 01:07:48 to coagulate and go a bit yuck and Fletch was like Sanguash and I had to google it mind blowing and then I was very impressed I knew it would
Starting point is 01:07:55 and then Fletch said he couldn't do it though he'd lady kill and poison yeah because that's how ladies do it because I watch a lot of Criminal Minds
Starting point is 01:08:02 a lot of true crime on Netflix so you know you get the vocab up. And that's when Megan had us with her perfect murder weapon, a frozen tomato. Say how you do it. Blunt force trauma with the frozen tomato. They go rock hard.
Starting point is 01:08:17 Put it in the lasagna. No murder weapon. You cooked and ate the murder weapon. It's perfect. Or the police arrive as the lasagna is cooked to the point of eating it. You cooked and ate the murder weapon. It's perfect. And then people would be looking. Or the police arrive as the lasagna is cooled to the point of eating and you're like, officers, would you like a slice of this delicious tomato heavy lasagna?
Starting point is 01:08:33 I can just imagine the scene and the whatever murder show it is and the experienced detective walks in with their new partner who's a little sick because it's their first dead body. Yeah. And then the forensic pathologist. It wasn't the first dead body. It was morning sickness. They got the job but they haven't told anyone they're pregnant. It's a subplot.
Starting point is 01:08:52 And then the forensic pathologist is like we found traces of tomato. No but they wouldn't because it was frozen. It was frozen. No a bit of tomato came off in the wound. There's traces. I'll wrap it in Glad Wrap. And they pick it out with a little bit of tweezer. Then they find the Glad Wrap.
Starting point is 01:09:07 The idea is that you don't want anything of the murder weapon to remain. That's why the ice bullet. Yeah. Or an icy icicle is a perfect murder weapon because it melts. Yeah. Yeah. We need to move on. 31, that wraps up the perfect murder weapon.
Starting point is 01:09:21 If you get an icicle shaped like a baseball bat. Yeah. But it would need a nub on the end because it would be slippery, that would be your go. Could you reinforce it with steel? In the middle? Yeah, and then get rid of the steel, but it wouldn't have anything on it. How would you get rid of the steel?
Starting point is 01:09:35 In a concrete block reinforcement. You'd use it as reinforcement. Yeah. Because then when they do the measure of the wound, the baseball bat made of ice was wider than the steel pipe. Exactly. Yeah, but I don't think the reinforcement's going to be a problem. At that weight.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Well, absolutely it'll be a problem. You get one. You need gloves for the girthy ice bat. Because you get cold hands. Okay, why would you, you wouldn't run ice down the whole thing. You'd freeze a bucket of ice or a small sort of a bowl of ice on the end of the metal thing and only use the ice.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Like a hammer. Just wet your hands and then your hands will stick to the bat and the bat's not going anywhere. But then no fingerprints because it melts. Anyway, anyway,
Starting point is 01:10:16 moving on from the perfect murder weapon, it is time for... It's like outrunning the police. I'm always planning on how it out... I will never find myself in a situation where I need to outrun the police. I'm always planning on how it out. I will never find myself in a situation where I need to outrun the police.
Starting point is 01:10:27 But I've got plans. Why? Never say never. There's three points at the Northern Motorway because that's where I'd head for. That I know I could
Starting point is 01:10:38 get off. Even in a front wheel drive. If I was on a motorbike, mate. Mate, the police eagles They'd find you. The police eagles got you. I've got plans to get around the eagle.
Starting point is 01:10:47 You're going to stop in the tunnel and change cars? Are you going to wear an ice suit so they can't do the heat? I'm not going to now. You've ruined that. No, I'm going to drive. I've got an ice car. You're running and you just go. Otherwise they can get the heat thingy on you.
Starting point is 01:11:00 You're like, oh, God, I forgot to ditch the ice hammer. All right, it's time for fact of the day, day, day, day, day. I was recently asked the question Why isn't it 9, 10 1 teen, 2 teen 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 Why are 11 and 12 Not 1 teen and 2 teen Yeah why
Starting point is 01:11:38 And why is it 13 not 3 teen 13 Yeah but at least it follows the thing of Something teen Twelve Eleven Yeah I'm glad I
Starting point is 01:11:50 English is my first language Because bugger learning it It'd be hard to learn So it would be Yeah You would count You could say like One-fteen
Starting point is 01:11:58 Two-fteen I said first language too I don't know Second one But that's why I always refer to Sade As my first wife Because I don't know a second one. That's why I always refer to Sade as my first wife because I don't have a second, but I'm not wrong. No, you're not. And it lets her know to tread carefully.
Starting point is 01:12:16 It's a warning sign across the bow. I always call Andrew my second husband just to know one's gone before. And we haven't seen him since, have we? Ice Hammer. Ice Hammer motorway chase. Look it up. So the reason is that 11 and 12 don't
Starting point is 01:12:36 follow the usual 15, 16, 17, 18 formula is that they are from English Old Words Edolfan for 11 and Twelfth for 12. Right. If you go back a little bit further, it is because Anlef, which is the origins of 11,
Starting point is 01:12:56 is one left after 10. One left after 10. And Twelfth is two left after 10. Right, okay. So they followed the more, and I don't know why they stopped there or why we only adopted those two. Because I think it was more because a dozen was used more regularly than metric 10s, 15s, 20s.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Right. It was more done in 12s. So things more often stopped at 12. It's like who decided one day we should do eggs by the dozen? Yeah. Oh, don't start this. Oh, my God. You know what?
Starting point is 01:13:30 Don't get me started on packs of 10 eggs because my omelettes always have four eggs in them, and I get to the end, and I've got two eggs, not enough for an omelette. Well, get two 10-packs. Oh, and by one at a time, don't I? Yeah, but then save those two eggs, and then use the two eggs from the next one, and by the end of the second pack of eggs you're back to... Oh no, gets me. Gets me so upset. You're back to evil. But I did have... You're right
Starting point is 01:13:49 though because the other day I did buy a 10 and a 12 because I still had two left over. No, but that's not going to carry on because you're still going to have two left over at the end of it. You've got to follow a 10 with a 10 and then go back to a 12. No, but the two gave me 12, so I had two 12s.
Starting point is 01:14:06 What? I'm fine, Darren. I've got it right. You said you had a pack of 10 to a pack of 12s. Yeah, but I already had two at home. You left me back at the crossroads. I don't know what you guys are talking about. See, your issue with me was buying two 10-packs,
Starting point is 01:14:18 but you bought a 10-pack and a 12-pack to match your two at home. Why was two 10-packs such a silly idea? You bought a 12-pack and a 10-pack. No, I'm done with 10-packs. I should have said I'm boy was two 10-packs such a silly idea? I don't like 10-packs. No, I'm done with 10-packs. I should have said I'm boycotting 10-packs. They're stupid. I want 12, not 10.
Starting point is 01:14:33 But why is 12 better? It's still the same multiple. Because I get three omelettes out of it. Okay. Okay. Because omelettes are four. Not always.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Why are you having four eggs in your omelette? Well, it's not really wonderful because if you have a three-egg omelette you get four omelettes out of it. Exactly. Why are you having four eggs in your omelette? Because if you have a three-egg omelette, you get four omelettes out of it. Exactly. And sometimes I do do a three. But look, move along. But if you had a five-egg omelette, you'd get two out of it. Just for you.
Starting point is 01:14:54 Yeah. Broats, babes. Broats. They don't go as far. I don't know how cafes make scrambled eggs. Go so far. Yeah. How much cream are you putting in that thing?
Starting point is 01:15:01 Just a dripper hole. How much eggs in there? That's a whole plate of eggs. I need a lot of eggs. So anyway, Thomas, we've covered some ground in this. Yeah, we have. So today's fact of the day is that we don't have one teen and two teen because of old English words for one left of ten and two left of ten. Fact of the day,
Starting point is 01:15:26 day, day, day, day. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. Ooh. Wellington restaurant. I've got a weekend in Wellington. The podcast. ZM. Ooh. Wellington restaurant. Mm-hmm. I've got a weekend in Wellington. I was supposed to go during level four.
Starting point is 01:15:50 Okay. Rescheduled. Okay. End of June. Now, did you get... Shada and I are planning out all the eating we're going to be doing. Right, because you're wanting to boost the local Wellington economy. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Exactly. Did you get your flights cancelled? Or what happened there? I can't remember if we got them cancelled or, you know, they were like, do you want credit for your flight? Early? I think we might have been like, yes, at that stage. Okay, right.
Starting point is 01:16:15 So, yeah, just, oh, yes, this is us. The ramen shop. Steamed buns. Oh, yum. Okay, this sounds great. I'm already in. Take your award. Yep.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Oh, yeah, okay, there's lots of good stuff here. There's burgers. Why are they in the news? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they, oh. Okay, this sounds great. I'm already in. Take your award. Yep. Oh, yeah, okay. There's lots of good stuff here. There's burgers. Why are they in the news? Well, they are. Oh, yeah, that's right. I'm just not like. Did you see how good that was? Ramen.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Did you see how I did that? How would you classify this place? Like a restaurant? Or is it like a daily eatery? It's not like a posh restaurant. Usually by the looks of it, I can see a photo here, there's like bench seating. Okay. Because it's a small area, but with the new
Starting point is 01:16:49 social distancing, 14 seats are going to be available and they're still doing takeaway. But if you want the dine-in experience that some people have been missing, they're asking you to spend a decent amount, order and spend a decent amount before booking a table.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Now, that would be a controversial call. Some people would be like, how dare you tell me how much I should have to spend to have a table. Yeah, well, pre-COVID it would have been. Yeah. But now I can't understand that. Pre-COVID, anybody could have sat and ordered any amount. But we're in different times. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:25 And now restaurants are extremely limited on who they can have in store. And they're struggling. It's hard. So they are saying if you're going to sit, and I see there's a cafes all the time, a busy cafe, and there's one person sitting at a four-person table, and they've got a coffee, and that's it. And they're sitting there reading a magazine for an hour.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Yeah. Charging their phone. But that blows my mind. Yep. Because I don't, maybe not everybody knows, but just, you know, having Megan and Andrew in the game and hearing about, you know, how it's, you've got to calculate all that stuff, right?
Starting point is 01:17:59 Like each table's got to make you this much money. And if someone's at that table and you can't hurry away a customer because it means they might not come back next time where they are going to bring three other people and spend but that's my immediate reaction to that is that I mean while I don't necessarily think disagree yeah it's putting that out there is real risky for a business because you're gonna you're gonna annoy people and they might not want to come back. So if someone came into your cafe and sat down,
Starting point is 01:18:27 ordered a coffee and sat there for an hour on a big table, they often do. You just wouldn't do anything. No, if it was on a big table and there was other smaller tables that were free, we'd politely ask them if they wouldn't mind moving. Only if a big group came in. Yeah, right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:42 But otherwise, yeah, people do that all the time. It's just, it's hard because if there's a space and you're offering it as a place to sit down and they purchase something of any value, then you can't really say they don't have a right to sit there. It'd always be a cappuccino, I reckon. Yes. I'm picturing them now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:59 It's definitely a cappuccino on the cards. It's like that scene in Fleabag, for anyone who's seen Fleabag, where that guy comes into a cafe and over the course of like two minutes slowly charges all of his devices but doesn't order anything. It's brilliant. To be fair, I don't think we've ever had that
Starting point is 01:19:15 where people come and charge things and sit down and do work, but people will always buy something. It's not the unspoken rule. Yeah. Like using the toilet. You have to buy something No people come in And use the toilet all the time
Starting point is 01:19:28 And just walk out Yeah No You can't say No I don't do that to cafes No I do it to fast food restaurants
Starting point is 01:19:37 All the time Because they're always so busy But I just like Every time I see a person I'm like I don't want to like Be awful Because then they might come back I'm like If I let them use my toilet now Maybe they'll come back every time I see a person, I'm like, I don't want to like be awful because then they might come back.
Starting point is 01:19:46 I'm like, if I let them use my toilet now, maybe they'll come back another time and get a coffee. So I'm just like, that's risky business. But I mean, like, I don't disagree. Yeah, right. But then at the moment, with people coming to your cafe like this weekend, for example, you will have had to have shifted tables a bit further apart. So how many are you down? Like how many seats are you down roughly? We've removed
Starting point is 01:20:10 four tables. And you probably only had eight. Yeah, it's only small. We're only small. Right, right. But that's just the rub, I guess. But then you have to contact trace everybody that comes in, right? So if someone came in and wanted to use the bathroom in this circumstance,
Starting point is 01:20:29 they'd have to fill out the form. Yeah. I think we'd probably say no. Yeah. Just because. 100%. Everyone's supposed to stay seated at the tables and not wander around. So someone wandering through just to go to the toilet is not safe for everyone who's a customer.
Starting point is 01:20:44 So when everybody's getting out there for their brunches and lunches and dinners and everything. Order up. Order up. Make the spend worth the real estate that you're taking up in the cafe. Otherwise, just get a takeaway and go find a park or something. Please don't be angry if you're asked, or you should be asked to fill out a form, a contact tracing form.
Starting point is 01:21:05 We're all navigating this together. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. This isn't great news, but this is analysis that comes from the International Air Transport Association, the IATA.
Starting point is 01:21:17 And they have looked into when international travel will return to pre-pandemic levels. Isn't it just, it's so sad. You love a travel show. I love a travel. I was talking to a friend the other day and we, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:34 because we both love a travel and we were saying like, it's that thing that gets you through, you know, like if you plan an end of the year holiday or a mid-year break, you know that if you wake up every day for work, you can just think, well, I've got this little trip
Starting point is 01:21:47 coming up. What do you want overseas that we don't have here? What do you want? This is true. We've got it all. Yeah, but I know. You want to go to Norway
Starting point is 01:21:57 to see the beautiful fjords? Go down south. Yeah, no, you're right. We do. I've got the thinking more like middle of the year when it's cold here, we escape to somewhere like hot.
Starting point is 01:22:05 Up north. Yeah, but that wasn't something we've just... It's not sunbathing hot, though. We've just got to adapt, don't we? We can just do thermal resorts in Orotaroa. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's the thing. We've just got to adapt, don't we?
Starting point is 01:22:16 Or go to Wellington and just turn up the heat pump. Exactly. Yeah. Well, they are also talking about pre-pandemic levels. Right. So some international travel may return before this, but the new forecast is that it won't be back to normal until 2023. I reckon, and prior to that, it will be admin heavy.
Starting point is 01:22:37 And I'm anti-admin. What, you mean like not just normal liquids and gels? It'll be, have you got a vaccination if there is one? Oh, if there is a vaccination, there'll be that. But I was just thinking even before that, like where are you going? How long are you going? What areas are you going there? Who did you come in contact with?
Starting point is 01:22:53 Are you feeling any symptoms? Yeah. So then when you get back, it's like, regardless, stay in your house for like three weeks. If you book a flight and then right before you have like a runny nose or something. Yeah, you're not going anywhere, buddy. I know, isn't that crazy? There'll be restrictions.
Starting point is 01:23:11 I'm kind of of the opinion that it certainly isn't the end of the world. No. To be stuck in bloody New Zealand. Oh yeah, no way. Beautiful. And all those tourists that usually come here aren't going to be able to come. No. So there's all these tourist operations and everything here
Starting point is 01:23:26 that will really benefit from local tourism, domestic tourism. So I just think, God, I couldn't think of a better country in the world to be stuck in. You'd probably be out of fit in five luge rides in an afternoon. Boom. Oh, yeah. Because there are not as many lines. Yeah. Go experience the other island.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Because when you go to South Island, there's always people that are like, never been to the North Island. I want to go to Stewart Island and see those giant Kiwis fighting. They've had zero cases though, right? So they don't want... Or have they shut their borders? Any refresh coming down?
Starting point is 01:23:57 Stewart Island. I don't think they've shut their borders. Right, okay. They'll be, you know, quite a bit of... That's relying on tourist dollar as well. So they'll be happy to see some Kiwi faces, I think. And then you get to see actual Kiwis faces as they're like fighting around and running around and humping and such.

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