ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 17th November 2020

Episode Date: November 16, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, welcome to the Fleet's Warner Megan podcast. It's thanks to McCafe by 5 McCafe coffees. Get one free on the Maccas app. We're about to go jump out of a plane now. This is a post-show. You too. I've just got an electric shock from my microphone. Have you not grounded your microphone? Do I need to be? My feet are never on the ground. Is that the problem? That's probably the problem. Yeah. No, I'm sure the electrics is ground for the building The electrics in this building isn't dependent on Everyone using it
Starting point is 00:00:26 You must be on your feet Otherwise you get a static shock So don't jump and flick any light switches Look at this Ah Always be touching But that doesn't sound safe That doesn't sound safe
Starting point is 00:00:41 So you were off to the Air Force base Yes, Fenel were off to the Air Force Base. Yes, Finor Pie. Finor Pie Air Force Base. Yeah. To jump out of a perfectly good plane, as somebody said. Whoa, did you jump out of a perfectly good plane? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Those big, I always call them big bombers. They always would fly past. C-130 Hercules. Yeah, C-130 Hercules. They used to always fly over my old house, and now I'm going to get to be close to one. So because you're pregnant, you've escaped this. Yeah, I mean, I wanted to ride in it.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I don't really want to jump out of it. So let me get this straight. They're going to open up the back flap, and we're just going to get out and jump out of it. Yeah. Yeah. How does that work? It's like a plane's bum hole.
Starting point is 00:01:21 We just jump out of it like a little nuggy. So we're like an African aid package. Yes. A chute. Yes. Operation Dumbo Drop. Anya, do you think they'd let me push the button to open the bumhole flap? Oh, my Lord.
Starting point is 00:01:35 I'm sure if you ask nicely. Then you say, bombs away. Bombs away. We'll also only be referring to the back entrance as the bumhole flap. Mine's the plane's bumhole flap. That's a great name for it. Fantastic. Military terms.
Starting point is 00:01:51 ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. This trip to the Cook Islands from these officials is taking forever, isn't it? Where are they going to stay a week? Well, yeah, they're having a couple of Mai Tais out in Murray. They want to hurry it. What are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:02:07 Check all their systems. What do you need to check? Come back here and work. They've got a little tiny hospital. Check that all their cocktail recipes are up to scratch. Yeah. But you want to know. It's been a while since tourists.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Yeah. You don't want them slacking off on the cocktails. You want to make sure the moorings are still doing a good fish sandwich. Ah! What a sandwich! You want to make sure all those pings are still doing a good fish sandwich. What a sandwich. You want to make sure all those potholes that people hit on their scooters going 75 k's an hour and almost careen into the side of the road, you want to make sure those are still there. And you want to make sure the bus still goes both clockwise
Starting point is 00:02:38 and anti-clockwise around the island. And probably do a couple of days out at, what's the posh one? Atutaki. Atutaki, yeah. No, you always think you're going to do that, and then you look at the price and you're like, no. You're like, I knew. Oh, on top of the flights here.
Starting point is 00:02:54 No, no. Coming up on the show, the top six. Yeah, there's renovations going on at the Blenheim Library and Art Gallery. Ooh. Yeah. Okay. And lots of tradies involved in that, and they want to create their own dedicated tradies car park,
Starting point is 00:03:11 meaning that they can park close. Fair enough. Disabled car parks. Yep. Parents with prams. Yep. And tradies. Tradies want to be in there
Starting point is 00:03:22 because they want to be guaranteed a park close enough. For those, you have to go get a screw or something and walk 20 minutes. To your car. So I've got the top six other sorts of car parks we need. Now that we've got tradies added to the list. Okay. Fleshfauna Megan, the podcast. ZM.
Starting point is 00:03:41 A mom is demanding compensation. $650 compensation, after a babysitter did something she wasn't supposed to. Okay. So the babysitter, she's 19, she's been babysitting for two years, but she was asked by a new family to look after the seven-year-old girl and nine-year-old boy. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Now, this obviously wasn't discussed before the mum went out, that they're in fact vegetarians. And she said the kids were so good. She was looking after them and she was like, you tell me what you want for dinner. Tell me what you want for dinner because you guys have been so good and I'll make it happen. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:20 I'm guessing it wasn't carrots. No. And the kids, like, have totally set her up. Yep. Because they were like wasn't carrots. No. And the kids have totally set her up. Yep. Because they were like, we want a chicken nugget happy meal. So the kids aren't vegetarian. They're being forced to be vegetarian. The mum
Starting point is 00:04:36 can't say, my children are vegetarian because that's something you choose. That's a lifestyle you choose. Yeah. These children have been told they're vegetarians. So she came home mid eating chicken nuggets. Because otherwise she could have just denied it. Eyeballed mum and been like, suck it, bitch.
Starting point is 00:04:53 She ripped the nuggets out of their hands and started screaming that the babysitter was horrible for letting her kids eat dead corpses. God, shut up. And yelling at her kids for eating them. The kids wanted them. They asked. It's very traumatic to yell at kids saying you're eating dead corpses.
Starting point is 00:05:11 She kicked her out without paying her and then texted her later and said that you need to give me emotional damage. Oh, God. And if you don't, I'm going to take you to court. She should be paying the children for the emotional damage of not letting them eat Nuggy Nugs. Delicious Nuggy Nugs. Delicious Nuggy Nugs. But also, she never said at the start, look.
Starting point is 00:05:28 No. My kids, I'm forcing them to not eat what they want to eat. She wasn't to know. No. And yeah, the kids took the opportunity and were like, give us the Nuggies. She's gone. She's gone. She'll never know.
Starting point is 00:05:44 We've tricked the babysitter into liking us now. We finally get the nuggets. I just imagine, too, they weren't, like, smashing them down before mum got home. No. They were eating them slowly and, like, yeah, eyeballing mum. Do you reckon it was one of those things that they'd only heard about? Maybe. Because if mum's, like, where was this?
Starting point is 00:06:00 What, UK or US? I believe it was the UK. Because wouldn't they get school lunches? They'd just have meat when mum wasn't at school. Oh, yeah. Don't you get a tray of... Unless mum had written a note being like, my aunt's children are vegetarian and they get a special dish each day.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And their friends feel sorry for them. They'll allocate one nugget from their collection of nuggets. A little sausage. Yeah, just to tide them over. Yeah, she said you shouldn't just assume that everyone eats meat. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. Pope Francis
Starting point is 00:06:32 or should I say Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of the Church of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop in Metropolis. Metropolis?
Starting point is 00:06:46 In Vicar of Dibley. Someone said that in Vicar of Dibley. Eight titles. Wow. Wow. Didn't know that, that it had the full eight titles. His Instagram account, his official Instagram account, has been caught liking an Instagram post from a Brazilian model called Natagata. Natagata.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Natagata. Natagata. In this photo, she's got 2.2 million followers. Okay. Come to Brazil. She is in... Either that skirt's been through the dryer and shrunk dramatically.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I'll tell you what, that would get a lecture at assembly about skirt length if she was actually at school. Wouldn't it? She would have been sent home, actually, before this period. Not much thicker than a belt. No. And she's wearing garter stockings. You can see a lot of the
Starting point is 00:07:45 bottom. And she's putting some books into a locker, but I don't believe she's actually at school at all. She said, I can teach you a thing or two. Obviously, they're a pun on the fact that she's at school. I can't wait for you guys to see my October
Starting point is 00:08:01 shoot on my site. And one of the 125,000 likes on the photo was from the Pope's Instagram. What's his official Instagram account? It is Francis and then C-U-S. Yeah, it's definitely him that's liked it. He doesn't follow anybody. 7.2 million followers. He's got exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:30 He doesn't follow anyone. I'm just looking at the comments on this post and it's like, some people were saying, so hot, even the Pope can't resist. Yeah, someone said, good to know the Pope's an arse man too. Wow. She herself said, my mum might hate my arse pics But at least the Pope be double tapping So good
Starting point is 00:08:52 Oh my god Someone's in trouble Yeah Only God's his missus Yeah He never had a partner So he had a girl in the movie
Starting point is 00:09:06 The Two Popes which I watched on an aeroplane. Was there nothing else? No, it was interesting because it had the guy who played this Pope, Pope Francis
Starting point is 00:09:15 was the High Sparrow from Game of Thrones. Oh yeah, he's good. He's done lots of things. He's a fantastic actor. Wasn't he a villain in a Bond movie? Maybe, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:23 And Anthony Hopkins played the last one the German movie? Maybe, yeah. And Anthony Hopkins played the last one, the German one, Benedict. Oh, yeah. The dark-eyed guy. Yeah. It was a really interesting movie, but I'm pretty sure he had a girlfriend right at the start, but when they were young. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And he was religious. Yeah. So I don't think they did anything. And then she dumped him or whatever whatever and he became a priest. You're like amazed by this. He's only supposed to play with himself. Yeah, you're not even meant to fondle yourself. I don't think he should be on this Instagram account then.
Starting point is 00:09:57 There's thirst traps on there. It's triggering. It's triggering for him. There should be one of those, you know, when there's a sensitive photo and it blurs it out. It's like if you're the Pope, it's like this is everything. This is too much for you, mate. I want to see the Pope's explore page.
Starting point is 00:10:11 It'll be like really nice cathedrals and then thirst trap models. Some bikini models. Yeah. Maybe some born in the 70s photos. And probably a cat or two. There's always a cat or a dog in Discover. Yeah. Oh, the tastiest communion wafer. Wafer of the month. There'll be some Warner series photos. And probably a cat or two. There's always a cat or a dog in Discover. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yeah. Oh, the tastiest communion wafer. Yeah. Wafer of the month. And more ass. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. From the hard-to-find ZM Think Tank, this is the Top Six. Hello there.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Welcome to the Top Six. Today's Top Six. The Top Six. We're going to talk, the top six other sorts of car parks we need because tradies are saying we could do with our own car park. There's going to be a new Blenheim library and art gallery and apparently this is going to be over two years of construction and they want their own parks outside. Well, yeah, they want new fencing fenced off a special area of the fire station car park for 40 trade vehicles that they think could be there any given day.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And obviously this is causing controversy. Yeah, because people are like, well, what about us? What about us? It would be so frustrating if you're working there every day and there's just nowhere to park. You have to park like 20 minutes down the road. Forget your hammer, go to walk down the road. Forget your hammer, could walk down the road. And most places where, yeah, you're building your park on site, right? But if there's no parking that close.
Starting point is 00:11:34 But then this is the thing, you give them their car parks now, then they're going to want one outside of Countdown, aren't they? Just like the parents of prams. The parents of prams. Accessibility. Oh, yeah. Everybody's bloody getting one. they? Just like the parents of prams. Yeah. Everybody's bloody getting one. So I've got the top six types of
Starting point is 00:11:51 car parks we need. Number six. A park for people who are just popping in for one minute. One minute. Just one minute. It'll only be one minute. Oh my god, Sue! Should we grab a coffee? There for three hours. Those sorts of people.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Number five on the list of the top six other sorts of car parks we need. Parks for people who bought giant trucks and haven't worked out how to park them yet. Oh, that would be scary. They're used to a smaller car. They've gone from a Swift to a Hiace. Big move. Big move to be driving and one day be driving a Suzuki Swift.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Next day be driving a large Toyota high ace. Yeah. Even just some people need lessons to drive the SUVs. Yeah. I just keep going
Starting point is 00:12:34 until your tyres because it's a bit higher than the kerb. You just keep going until your tyres at the kerb. But then you are taking up half the footpath sometimes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Hey, there's the brakes. Number four on the list of the top six other sorts of car parks we need. A park for people who are just parking to make or take a call.
Starting point is 00:12:51 My mum pulls over and she's got a hands-free seat in her car. But she can't deal with driving and talking? I hooked it up for her. But yeah, when you call her
Starting point is 00:13:00 if she's driving she has to pull over and she'll call you back. Even if she's driving on the motorway or the... She wouldn't answer. Oh, she wouldn't. She has to pull over and she'll call you back. Even if she's driving on the motorway or the... She wouldn't answer. Oh, she wouldn't. She just straight up wouldn't answer.
Starting point is 00:13:10 She just can't concentrate on the two things. There's a button on her steering wheel where you can press the green phone and it'll come through the system. She's like, no, absolutely not. That's crazy. I'll just pull over and make the call. Number three on the list of the top six other sorts of car parks we need. People who are only parking here before they're going to use the public toilets.
Starting point is 00:13:30 And the parking will be erratic, hurried, the doors won't be locked, and you'll see them scuttling off to the bathroom with their legs kind of held together and holding it all in. Number two on the list of the top six other sorts of car parks we need are parks for people who don't have a warrant of fitness and the car will probably be there for a few weeks. And those ones the council don't take a day. Yeah. They don't even walk past there.
Starting point is 00:13:51 They don't even walk past there. It's like the equivalent of free parking on the Monopoly. Right. Because that's the thing. If you're just being a bit lazy or waiting until next payday for your WAF or your rego, you can't park anywhere because they get you on that too. They'll sting you. And number one on the list of the top six other sorts of car parks we need
Starting point is 00:14:08 are parks for people who have stickers on their cars saying, yeah, no, it's definitely an e-car. Definitely. Definitely for the environment. But it's not. Can you get ticketed if you, like, park in an EV, like a... Charging thing. Charging bay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:26 They're free to charge, eh? I don't know how that works. I think so, at the moment. Yeah, but surely when there's more EVs on the road, they're going to start charging for them. Yeah, you'd think so. You just park there and tape the thing to the front of your car. It's filling up.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Just chuck it in. Just shut it in the bonnet. Yeah, yeah. Just chuck it in. Just shut it in the bonnet. Yeah, yeah. Stick it in there. You stick it in the fuel tank. You open the fuel tank flap. You stick it in there. I don't know enough about them,
Starting point is 00:14:54 but I don't feel like that's a safe option to do anything. It looks like your car's charging. Or it's on fire and it's burning everything else down. I don't know. That might be unconvincing. Yeah, well, you've got a free park. Insurance will sort that out. Well, if you are insured,
Starting point is 00:15:11 if you didn't have a warrant like that guy just before. That is today's top six. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. ZM. Indonesia is considering a controversial new bill to ban alcohol across the entire country. Now, doing the quick geographical breakdown of that, that includes Bali. Do they want people to come back post-corona?
Starting point is 00:15:36 Don't know. Apparently not. Anytime I've seen Bali in the news, it's just been decimated. It's just empty streets. Yeah. No tourists. Yeah, no tourists at all. I. It's just empty streets. Yeah. No tourists. Yeah, no tourists at all. I think there's some people living there, some like expats.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah. But then, I don't know, a couple of people that I saw that lived there were out of money. Because they were working remotely. Yeah. They were working from there doing things, but just with the downturn had found that really hard.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Yeah. So, I mean, what better place to be quarantined, though, if you're going to be anywhere to be quarantined? Not a bad spot. But apparently, the United Development Party have filed a request with Parliament to resume deliberation on the prohibition of alcoholic drinks bill. So that's a blanket ban on the whole place. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:23 It's not like you can't drink in the streets and stuff. It is to protect the public from alcoholics and create awareness about the dangers of alcohol consumption. It was first introduced in 2015 but totally stalled because obviously people who aren't doing this with religious fervour realise that people come there and it's quite a good financial part of the tourist sector. Now, don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I've only been there once and I saw more than my fair share of drunk assholes that I'm sure as a local you'd get well sick of. Oh, absolutely. And if you didn't drink as a local, it would be even worse. Yeah. Because that's the one thing worse than dealing with drunk people is when you're completely sober and dealing with drunk people. But also, like, this is a great kind of, I guess,
Starting point is 00:17:10 a practice run of what it's like when there are no tourists in Bali. Yeah. Is that what you want going forward? Yeah, that's true. Because people won't come if they can't drink. You can go to Bali and not drink. You could do like... Cocktails on the beach at the pool?
Starting point is 00:17:27 Like a yoga retreat or like a... Everybody does that, Megan, but as soon as you've got your Instagram photo, you're out. Yeah. You know, as soon as you've done the namaste, here's my green shake. There's only so many days you can do an ubud with the monkeys and the yoga
Starting point is 00:17:41 before you need to hit the beach and the cocktails. Yeah. Don't they do like silent retreats and stuff as well? You go there and you don't speak. Well, that sounds horrible. Yeah, but all you can hear, that's where you have to learn sign language to say Mai Tai. You walk up to the bar, you're like. Yeah, it's going to be, I'd say it'll be a while before we're getting there.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Great news, another vaccine this morning with 94 point, what was it? 94.5 or something? Yep. Effective, whereas the Pfizer one's 90%, so they're Latin. Take that. Who's Moderna? The other ones that have claimed... Just another pharmaceutical company. I don't know what other drugs they do.
Starting point is 00:18:15 What are Moderna's top owners? Over the weekend Qantas, celebrating 100 years as an airline, they announced that they don't see themselves flying to Europe or the US until the end of 2021. So a year away. So I don't think you can get to Bali
Starting point is 00:18:31 even if there's booze anytime soon. The good thing about it is there's booze at home. Another reason. And lots of bintang singlets too. If it's bintang singlets you're after, we could definitely import some of those. Piece of cake.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Flesh fauna Megan, the podcast. ZM. The students were also treated to an entertaining and enlightening speech by guest speaker and ex-Nayland student Megan Pappas. Thank you. Megan left Nayland College in 2000. I'm not the baby.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Sorry, they're wrong. Megan left Nayalen College in 1987 to study at the New Zealand Broadcasting School in Christchurch. In 2003, you were done by 2003. That makes it sound like you finished at the end of 2003. You finished at the end of 2002, didn't you? Yeah. Oh, she's adding it.
Starting point is 00:19:18 She's just taking a couple of this, shaving, being very liberal with her age. Unless she repeated seventh form. Is this a write-up? A review? Like a write-up in the, what do you call it when someone leaves the... Newsletter. No, the people that used to go there.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Alumni. Alumni newsletter. How often does the alumni newsletter come out? I don't know. I don't get it regularly. After two years, she secured a scholarship. Still going on about her scholarship. God, some 25 years later, still going on about her scholarship.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I got a scholarship, guys. Blah, blah, blah. How did you get a scholarship? Because I'm very studious, Fletch. I'm very studious. Because I went to the same broadcast school. Everyone's lazy. You do it right if you try.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Okay. Megan told the audience how an early interest in English and her reluctant involvement in the school newspaper eventually led to her getting involved in broadcasting. Just read the bits where they said I was, like, real awesome. I hated writing stories. I hated the pressure of deadlines. And I didn't really like doing interviews. Good.
Starting point is 00:20:24 This sounds great, doesn't it? I was telling them don't get good at what you don't want to do. People love to tell you what you should and shouldn't do. My life motto. That's not an inspiring speech for students. It is. It's words to live by. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Don't get bogged down getting good at things that you have no interest in doing. If you don't feel passionate about what you're doing, what is the point? Hey, that's a great point. I'll see you guys later on. I'm far more passionate about sleeping than I am about being here. Excuse me. Afterwards, the principal said,
Starting point is 00:20:57 I think you're the best speaker we've had in the time that he's been there. And I was like, oh, that's cool. I had no idea who's been there. But Liam alone's been there, so. Oh, yeah. The story of Megan's hardships. Sure compared to a guy, a double amputee who's on the world, was a world stage athlete. I didn't say it.
Starting point is 00:21:14 The principal said it. Sorry. Oh, Megan talks about her experience of discrimination in the male dominated field of audio production urging students not to let other people's opinions faze them. See, inspiring. I mean, again, urging students not to let other people's opinions faze them. See? Inspiring. I mean, again, it's not Michelle Obama,
Starting point is 00:21:32 but, you know, when you can't afford Michelle. It's like Mitchell Osama. Like if you went to Thailand and you got like a rip-off. Same, same, different. Yeah, yeah. Same, same, different. You don't have to understand the other person, but you can be understanding. Yeah, see?
Starting point is 00:21:43 I'm inspiring. That's nice. Did you get to go into the, see? I'm inspiring. That's nice. Did you get to go into the staff room? I did. Oh my God. Yeah, how good is going into a staff room? Especially if it was the school you went to. Yeah, and I went to the principal's office when I wasn't in trouble. I hung out and there was like
Starting point is 00:21:58 food and fruit platter for me. I was like, this is so legit. Was it like your green room? The principal's office was like your green room? Yeah. Wow. I know, flashing. Wow. Yeah, it is so legit. Was it like your green room? The principal's office was like your green room? Yeah. Wow. I know, flashing. Wow. Yeah, it was really something. Did anybody ask about us?
Starting point is 00:22:10 No. Lies. Lies. What? A liar. Remember when I told you I won the award for the potential to make a difference in the world? Yeah. And you were like, that's rubbish. They still give out that award and I got to present it.
Starting point is 00:22:23 They were like, as a past recipient. Recipient. I got to present it. They were like as a past receiver award winner. Recipient. I want to know that's right what is involved in getting a trophy with your name on it given out at assembly, like given out at prize giving. Like could I go to my old school and could I, if I just donate
Starting point is 00:22:39 the trophy and it's the Vaughan Smith trophy for, you know Get him by. Get him by with the least amount of effort. The Vaughan Smith trophy for the student who is surprising us all by still being here.
Starting point is 00:22:56 That's a great prize. What more do I have to do? I'd give $100 a year. Do I have to give a prize? Yeah. So they win my trophy and $ bucks a year i'd do it just to have the vaughn smith trophy for me awarded to the student who is who has surprised us all by lasting this long it's hardly something they'd say to the kids at the start of the year look if you just get by you could win the vaughn
Starting point is 00:23:21 smith hang in there you might win the vaughn smith Hang in there. You might win the Smithy. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. The way we live is like drastically changed in 2020. And this might be, some people are saying this could have changed for good. People are not buying lipstick as much as they were pre. Pre.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Pre. I was going to say post. Pre. Pre COVID. as much as they were pre-COVID. Because lipstick is hidden behind masks. And I mean, we're going to be wearing more masks, especially in Auckland. Yeah, so Thursday, if you haven't heard, Auckland Public Transport masks and flights are all over the country.
Starting point is 00:24:02 From Thursday, you have to wear a mask. So overseas, everyone's wearing them all the time and there's just no need for lipstick. And also if you wear lipstick and then put your mask on, you're going to end up with it all over your face. Have you worn it with a mask? Does it go all over your cheeks? Does it rub on your face?
Starting point is 00:24:16 When you go to the supermarket or whatever, I'd put on lipstick and I'd go out and then I'd be like, well, what was the point in that? And it goes all in the mask, all over your face. And you just forget. So the sales of lipstick have dropped 49% this year worldwide. And they think that this might be a permanent change because then in turn, eye makeup,
Starting point is 00:24:38 so we're talking like eyeliner, eyeshadow, all that jazz, has gone up 25%. Because that's all you can see. That's all you can see. People's eyes. So they're like, I've got to make the all you can see. That's all you can see. People's eyes. So they're like, I've got to make the eyes look way better. Make the eyes pop. Yep.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And leave the rest. But once it goes back to normal and we're not wearing masks at all. The UK boss of L'Oreal said that this could be a permanent change. People just get out of the habit of wearing lipstick and maybe you'll want to go back again. Do you think that will be the case? Like when you're not wearing a mask, you're back to the lipstick, and maybe you want to go back again. Do you think that will be the case? Like when you're not wearing a mask, you're back to the lipstick, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:25:08 Yeah. And like that was a creature comfort beforehand. As soon as you can, I'd be like, okay, let's have it again. This also, yeah, exactly. This also seems like the whole lockdown. Oh my gosh, I saved some money. This is me now. My new budget lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Oh yeah, because we're all still cooking meals at home, eh? Yeah, definitely. Definitely not going back out for meals and wasting money on stuff. No, certainly not. Yeah. But apparently the sale of makeup overall has dropped quite a bit because half your face is just covered. And then half the world, like we're pretty lucky here,
Starting point is 00:25:40 but most of the world is still locked down and isn't going out. And do you only put foundation and stuff on the top half of your face and the bottom half is just like bare? Because I don't want to waste the foundation on the bit that no one's going to see. It's just behind the mask and then I end up on the mask. You'll look like a snowboarder. You know how the skiers and the snowboarders get the goggle masks? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Yeah, you just look like that. Just be like, if anyone's looking funny, just be like, Cowabunga, dude. And they'll be like, oh, like If anyone's looking funny Just be like Cowabunga dude And they'll be like Oh yeah Snow's up man And then When's the last time
Starting point is 00:26:10 You went snowboarding A little while ago I don't know Maybe the lingo's changed Did you even go this season Did you even go No I didn't No
Starting point is 00:26:15 Has the lingo changed Do you reckon I think it might have Yeah ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan The podcast It's Trans Awareness Week In New Zealand
Starting point is 00:26:23 And we thought Rather than three C cisgendered people with no first-hand knowledge discussing the topic, we would get people in who can. So joining us in studio is H. McArdle from Outline. Kia ora. Good morning. And Frances from Rainbow, not Rainbow Youth,
Starting point is 00:26:39 Rainbow Everyone. No, no, Rainbow Youth. Rainbow Youth. Rainbow Youth. Outline is a counselling service for everyone in the rainbow community, not just rainbow youth. You got it. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:26:51 So, first of all, at any point, if we say anything that's not right, please stop and correct us because we are sensitive, but we do not want to be ignorant. How do you identify and is that an insensitive question? We introduce ourselves in lots of different ways. Some people might introduce themselves by their name or where they're from or what's important to them. So if I was introducing myself,
Starting point is 00:27:13 I might say something in the context of this. Kia ora, my name is H, I'm 32 years old. I live here in Tamaki, Makaurau, and I'm a non-binary person. Perfect. Is it insensitive for people to ask you? Because I know non-binary people. Perfect. Is that, is it insensitive for like people to ask you? Because I, I know non-binary people and I always say like, what pronouns do you prefer? Totally. What pronouns to ask is probably, that's a reason to ask someone, right? Like, whereas maybe like asking someone, who are you? It's quite like a really deep question, but you could always offer your pronouns first. How is, in that regard, how is New Zealand doing
Starting point is 00:27:46 in terms of discrimination and how can New Zealand do better? We've got a way to go. We still, say in our Human Rights Act in New Zealand, we still don't have full protection for our trans, non-binary and intersex people. So in terms of grounds of discrimination, sex characteristics, gender identity and gender expression still aren't covered.
Starting point is 00:28:07 So we've got a way to go on the legislative framework. And we know from the statistics at the other end of the spectrum, our bullying rates within our schools and workplaces are still pretty high and they're probably not what we would expect or where we would want New Zealand to be. So hopefully with all this increased visibility in the media,
Starting point is 00:28:26 hopefully over time that will translate to increased support in our communities. When you said the legislative side of things and the protection, what is an example of that? So, you know, when you're signing up for, say, becoming a tenant on a house, there's some things that a landlord can't discriminate against you. Or you're going for a job interview, you can't be discriminated if you're in a wheelchair
Starting point is 00:28:49 or you're a certain, wear your hair a certain colour or whatever, colours, or if you're a certain age, you can't say someone's too young or too old for this job. Because we've said in New Zealand, there are some grounds of discrimination
Starting point is 00:29:01 that are kind of not okay for us. But we still haven't protected trans and intersex people in our human rights act. That is not written in to say that that's a section of society that's faced discrimination to the point where it, I mean it's sad that it needs to be written down right? I've gone to the UN
Starting point is 00:29:17 and the UN has said to the New Zealand government sort your stuff out, you need to do this Now, why is that taking so long we've got quite a progressive country I mean we still haven't banned gay conversion therapy 100% but on other areas we've kind of been ahead of the curve
Starting point is 00:29:36 it's unusual that the UN said that anything needs to happen and it hasn't Is it a work in progress or is it just not happening? The previous Justice Minister Andrew Little said, yep, I get it in principle and we know that the previous government was a government made up of three parties.
Starting point is 00:29:51 So let's see where the new government goes. Bloody New Zealand first. Winston. As an NGO I have no political affiliations when talking on this topic. Very well put. Well, I do have a bunch of questions from our listeners. I'm pleased to say they're a pretty progressive bunch.
Starting point is 00:30:10 So first question is, as a cis person, what do I need to do better? I think the point H made around pronouns and normalising that as much as we can is awesome. And on the flip side, like your question around asking about how people identify, I think that's a really dangerous territory to get into. Naturally, as cis people, we're curious about the experiences. Maybe you've heard about surgery and you want to know a bit more, like, has that person had surgery? But those are all areas that are incredibly private and really
Starting point is 00:30:41 important, you know, not to ask about that. And I think the best that you can do is just empathise, read. There's so much on the internet and that's an ongoing journey. As an ally in any form, you've always got more to learn. You should always be following what's happening for those communities and seeing how you can advocate alongside those folks. Next question is, I suspect my five-year-old son is trans. I just want to know how we best support him. Oh, I love these questions because it shows that we have a parent
Starting point is 00:31:14 that just loves their kid and that's all your kid needs is just a parent that loves them and is like, cool, I'm picking up on a vibe. How can I love you the best? You're going to be okay because you've got that vibe in your whare. Over time, a kid might like to express themselves in different ways, support them alongside that, test it out, might not be where they end up. But generally let the kid express themselves,
Starting point is 00:31:36 whether that's they want to wear some different clothes or be called by a different name for a while. That's cool. At five years old, there's nothing irreversible going on. Do you get offended if people refer to you as the wrong gender by mistake? a while, that's cool. At five years old there's nothing irreversible going on. Do you get offended if people refer to you as the wrong gender by mistake? Or use the wrong pronoun, I guess would be better
Starting point is 00:31:52 to say. Intention's really interesting, right? Like, my 86-year-old grandmother gets a bit muddled sometimes, but she also sometimes calls me by my brother's name or my mum's name, so I'm not super offended when Gran's, like, lists every other family member before she gets to me. That's every mum. That's every person
Starting point is 00:32:07 anyway. That's your grandma. That's my mum. Yeah, yeah. But if someone's being an arsehole then I'm totally offended. But if someone's just a bit muddled, that's totally cool. That's like with a lot of things, right? It's the intent behind it. And you can kind of give a reading on people's intention. And last one is, how do you feel about people's reactions
Starting point is 00:32:24 now rather than five years ago? Do you think people have become more aware have we progressed i feel like around sexuality we've made huge strides like there is i would say general acceptance to a degree across new zealand um but i feel like we've got so far to go around gender diversity you know there's just still so much for people to learn and so much fear and often we see that translate into really negative harmful um expressions of yeah bullying violence discrimination and because visibility doesn't always equal support, right? So over Trans Week of Awareness, we're not just wanting to be visible and aware,
Starting point is 00:33:09 but we're really wanting to challenge people to think, oh, actually, how could I step up? Could I, like, call out that slightly transphobic joke that my workmate makes? Or, oh, actually, I'm going to really, like, remember to call my trans mate by their new name and pronouns. I'm really going to make a specific effort because support's what we need, eh?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Not just visibility. Well, thanks so much for coming in and chatting to us because, you know, it's good. It's good that we have these conversations and it's good that we all try and understand each other. So we appreciate it. Thanks so much. We're really, yeah, really stoked to have you guys supporting,
Starting point is 00:33:41 you know, our initiatives this week to really, yeah, lift the mana of our community from this time. Thank you. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast, ZM. Well, I mean, this is unfolding in front of our very eyes and I, for one, couldn't be more excited to give everybody an update. We played Radio Tinder with Producer Jared. Massive, massive event that was.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Five ladies. He didn't end up meeting up with one of them that was on the cards due to a hangover, and that might have been a blessing in disguise because... Fate. It was after... Yeah, fate. It was after that, or F8,
Starting point is 00:34:15 if you just want to write it a bit quicker. Or on a number plate. Yeah. I'm just thinking of letter economy. What were we talking about? Producer Jared and fate. And it was then
Starting point is 00:34:29 that that didn't happen that the fate kicked in and he met this lovely young wahine and they've been on a couple of dates. She's vegetarian. He even made
Starting point is 00:34:37 a vegetarian dish. Wow, that is something, isn't it? And then chopped ham into it like any person that's likely to finish a vegetarian meal and be like, still a bit hungry. Just the portions, you know.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And, well, he has come to us with the events that have happened over the weekend and we were all very surprised what happened in chapter, what's this, chapter three or four? Yeah, chapter two and a half maybe. Yeah, so Emma and I hung out. We've got a name! We've got a name! We've got a name! Lovely lady number one.
Starting point is 00:35:19 No, don't say number one. It makes it sound like there's others. Oh, no, there's not. Yeah, we hung out on the weekend. Had a cute little beach day through the Frisbee round. It was's others. Oh, no, there's not. Yeah, we hung out on the weekend, had a cute little beach day through the Frisbee round. It was pretty cute. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:35:29 This is so wholesome. And then she was like, hey, there's a 21st, like a family friend 21st happening. Do you want to come? And I was like, oh, yeah. Get on the beers. And then met her family. After how many dates is this?
Starting point is 00:35:46 We try to work it out. It's like four or five, I think. Wow. But not only met the family, you went to like a family friend event. Yeah. They will have all talked about you by now. Yeah. All the mums will have.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Yeah, I got a bit of a grilling. Did you? Did you? And you would have met all of her friends now too. I met a couple. Right. And then we're actually going away this weekend. What?
Starting point is 00:36:09 With her friends. Oh, with the friends. With the friends, yeah. You'll be married by April at this rate. I can't believe you met the family with that moustache. It's impressive. It's very impressive. It is actually quite impressive.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Really good moustache. So what kind of grilling did you get? What questions were asked? Oh, it was just like, who are you? What do you do? Just the generic getting to know the young lad. And do you think that they liked you? I really hope so.
Starting point is 00:36:35 I quite like them. They were pretty cool. The brothers and I got along like a house on fire. How many brothers does she have? Heaps. There's like five or six of them, I think. Oh my God. Wow, okay. So her like five or six of them, I think. Oh, my God. Wow, okay.
Starting point is 00:36:47 So her parents have been through the ringer. Yep. And obviously I can't break her heart at all because then there's like six dudes coming at me. And they're all quite a bit taller. You've been put on notice. Yep, yep. Wow, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:00 That's quite, meeting the family's quite a big deal, though. Yeah, I was so nervous. I was hiffing the vape quite hard on the drive over. Oh, you didn't do that thing where you were like left and had a vape, did you? Not during. Oh, okay, right. No, but she vapes as well, so it's fine. Oh, right, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:17 And you didn't, when you said you hit the beers, you didn't have too many beers, eh? I had four whole beers. Wow, okay, that's good pacing, actually. Responsible. Throughout the whole night, it was good. Yeah. So, like, you've met the family. Is it a fish?
Starting point is 00:37:29 No. I don't know how to make it a fish. I think you're a fish if you're going to meet the parents and friends. No, I mean, don't assume it's official. You've got to say. You've got to. I mean, the mums have definitely labelled it official. Right?
Starting point is 00:37:43 So, it's, like, unofficially a fish. Yeah, but you've got to make it official. Yeah. So it's like unofficially official. Yeah, but you've got to make it official. Yeah. But is there like a cute way I should do that? So, no, I don't know. How did Mr Toivoi ask you back in the day? Did he say, do you want to go around with me? No, we just said, oh, he said, so are you like my girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:38:02 I was like, I don't know. Are you like my boyfriend? Oh, my God. Which is okay for him because he was 16 at the time. Don't say that. You were 35. Don't say that. That is not accurate ages.
Starting point is 00:38:15 It's pretty close, though. No. I'm no maths genius, but I'm pretty sure that was it. How did, well, what about Sade? You just had your 10-year anniversary at the weekend. Yeah, she said, is it all right if I tell my friends that you're my boyfriend because you're so cool? And I was like, hey, babe, chill out.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I'm a clinginess man. I don't need no clinger. I'm a young buck, man. No, you were like, yes, please. Please tell them now. Fletchvorna Megan, the podcast. ZM. I had a lovely long weekend in Queenstown to celebrate the 10th wedding anniversary.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I was, however, told during the trip to stop that. Multiple times about very different things. But the... Are we picking what it could be? Because we spend a lot of time with you too Oh no we're not You could hurt my feelings I know what this is going to be
Starting point is 00:39:11 I don't want to hurt your feelings So thank you for that absolutely non-believable statement sold with such passion No it was when we were driving around I pointed out every time I saw a Land Rover, I get excited.
Starting point is 00:39:26 I'm like, oh, look, a Land Rover. And then if it's an old one, I'll be like, oh, Series 3, Series 3 Land Rover. Where were we the other day? I was with you and your wife and Vaughn disappeared. And Sianae was like, where's Vaughn gone? Oh, it was when we gave you a ride to the airport. That's right, where the airport bus had just turned up
Starting point is 00:39:43 and Vaughn's missing. He said, Vaughn wandered into the car park to take a photo of a Land Rover. That's not even his. What did he do with that photo? That was a 2016. That was the last of the Defenders before they took a break and came back this year. And it's like my dream car. What do you do with that photo?
Starting point is 00:39:59 You send it to your mates. You're like, oh, check this one out. Oh, my God. Honestly. My lads chat, we get very excited when someone sees a Defender. So she's sick of you probably like we are, driving along and you're like,
Starting point is 00:40:12 Land Rover. Land Rover. Land Rover. She's like, I know. That's what she's saying. She said, I think you can get excited about those, but I don't need to know every time you see one. But you're like, because you're a certain type of,
Starting point is 00:40:26 what was the car you used to have, the MX-5? Yeah. MX-5 owners always give a little wave. We wave to each other. Jeep owners do it as well. They're like, Jeep, that's, you know, Land Rovers, you always wave, but I'm never driving my Land Rover and I wave and then I wave back.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Sharder's like, then I'm going to wave back to you. You're in a Hyundai. Right? I'm like, but they should be able to tell. I'm going home. I need a little sign or something. What's the point of you always pointing out another Land Rover to Sharda? She doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I know. And I don't know. I just can't help it. It's an allergic reaction. Not an allergic reaction. It's just an immediate reaction. A knee jerk reaction. This reminds me of as a kid, anytime we'd drive anywhere past somewhere my dad worked on as a builder, he'd be like, I built that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:08 It's like, Dad, I'm pretty sure our whole construction team built that hotel. Or that overbridge. Did you ever get the feeling that your dad took the long way just to go past an extra one? Sometimes there was one outside Hamilton that my dad helped on, and sometimes we'd just go, it was a cul-de-sac, so we'd have to go down and be like, how about on that one?
Starting point is 00:41:28 We'd turn around at the end of the drive and be like, just choice what it is specifically. That is something you would do too. Oh, 100%. Now, I know there's a Land Rover down here, kids. Come on, we're just going to look down and say, there it is and we're out of here. I stopped in Glenorchy because there was one at the fire station.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Beautiful Land Rover. Oh, my God. Beautiful. And Charlotte's just like, I've had enough. She's like, how long are you going to be? I was like, well, I'm just going to walk over there and get a photo and have a look. Have a pat, pat. I came back.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I was like, that's got to warrant a fitness registration. She's like, who cares? Okay, so we want to take some calls this morning on 0800DARLS.M and you can text in as well, 9696. What does your partner always point out? Always. And are we going to take Dad's as well? Because I feel like Dad's...
Starting point is 00:42:14 This is a Dad thing. It's a classic Dad thing to do. Dad's always love to point out the same things over and over. I put up that sign. It's still up there. Good on you. Because your Dad's a sign erector. Erections by Wayne and over. I put up that sign. It's still up there. Good on you. Because your dad's a sign erector. Erections by Wayne and Nelson.
Starting point is 00:42:29 I got that all weekend. Really? I put that sign up. I was like, yeah, it's still there. Good stuff. That's a real sign of a good craftsmanship. Because I tell you what, the westerly blows through here like a bloody bat out of hell. We're talking about what your partner always points out.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Maybe when you drive around, if you're going for a little bit of a road trip. Dad's too. Dad's notorious for this. Dads love it. I built that. My husband always points out fibre optic cabinets and the pits that he installed on the side of roads. He's got one that he's especially proud of. It's in the Mount Maunganui campground.
Starting point is 00:43:05 So much so that we had to take a detour after the way down from our walk from the top of the mount through the campground to make sure his cabinet and pit were still looking good.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Oh, that is, is that not the cutest thing ever? That's someone who loves their job. Yeah. And takes pride in their work. Yeah. My husband. Taking pride in your work there?
Starting point is 00:43:23 I'm listening. I'm not going to start taking pride in my work though. I'm listening. I'm not going to start taking pride in my work, though. That sounds a little bit too much. My husband is a police dog handler. Whenever we drive past someone, somewhere, sorry, where he and the dog have caught someone, we get the story about how long the track was,
Starting point is 00:43:40 what the offender did and said. That's kind of interesting. I'm being interesting. Yeah, that would be cool. They said the kids really enjoy the stories, but I offender did and said. That's kind of interesting. I'd be interested. Yeah, that would be cool. They said the kids really enjoy the stories, but I'm a bit over it. So if any criminals in the area want to commit some new crimes, so he's got a couple of new stories, that'd be great. Jess, what does your dad always point out?
Starting point is 00:43:56 Whenever he sees shoes on the power lines, he's like, oh, look, there's a tinny house. Tinny houses aren't doing that anymore, though, are they? I don't think so. It's like a little bit... Obvious. Yeah, everybody knows now. You see the old one, it's a rough area, but other than that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:14 All right, kids, give us your shoes. Dad's opening a tinny house. All right, GSX, your call. Charlotte, who points out what? It's my partner. He's got a Jeep Wrangler, and every time he drives by another Jeep, he shouts out, oh, my God, It's my partner. He's got a Jeep Wrangler and every time he drives by another Jeep, he shouts out, oh my God, there's a Jeep!
Starting point is 00:44:29 And he does the Jeep wave to them. Yeah, so Jeep owners are like... I think it's everybody that likes their car does this to fellow car drivers. It's not. People that are driving a Toyota Corolla don't go, hello Corolla. Suzuki Swift drivers apparently all have a little breathing way
Starting point is 00:44:46 that they talk to each other in the Suzuki Swift. Amazing, Charlotte. Thanks for your call. Elise, who points out what? Right, it's my husband, and he loves a good lawn. Oh, yeah. I love a hedge, too. Does he love a hedge?
Starting point is 00:45:01 I love a straight trimmed hedge. Yes. You can see it. Is he love a hedge? I love a straight trimmed hedge. Yes. You can see it. Is he like, babe, look at that lawn. And he'll go over and he'll bend down and he'll give it a little pat. Yeah. Put your hand over. I tell you what, if the person who owned the lawn saw it,
Starting point is 00:45:16 they'd be like, yep, it's good to see people appreciating the lawn. They would. They would. They have a chat. They stop and have a chat and, did you scarify it? I did. And they go on about it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Oh, my God. So good. Elise, brilliant. Thanks for your call. Some other text messages. My dad loves pointing out speed cameras and telling you how many tickets they gave out last year. I don't even know. He's not got the right information because there's one coming through the Ngaurangi Gorge
Starting point is 00:45:41 and he says, busiest one in New Zealand, which isn't true. It hasn't been for years. And he also points out the Paekakariki train station and says, Christian Cullen, Paekakariki Express. Every time we go past. Somebody said our family's thing is alpacas.
Starting point is 00:45:58 The husband hates it, but the kids are on board now. Every time you see an alpaca in a paddock, you have to scream out alpacas. Oh God, look, alpacas. What if it's a llama? Because I don't know the difference. Llamas have bigger ears. They're overall a bigger creature. And they have bigger ears, and their ears
Starting point is 00:46:14 look like bananas, whereas alpacas look like straight ears. Driving past at 100km, I couldn't back myself. Well, if it was only alpacas, you might struggle unless it had a llama there for comparison. Well, that's the new rule. I think everyone who's got an alpacas, you might struggle, unless it had a llama there for comparison. Well, that's the new rule. I think everyone who's got an alpaca should always have a llama
Starting point is 00:46:28 so that you can tell. Yeah. My husband points out power lines that he helped build. He was a linesman for North Power. Does my bloody head in. Do you know how many power lines there are? There are a lot. There are a lot.
Starting point is 00:46:44 My husband sells solar panels. He points out large north-facing roofs with our big trees around them. Once they put a panel on that. That's a north-facing roof, no trees. That'd be great, actually. They'd get a lot of power year-round from that. That's an eye for a new job, though. It is, it is.
Starting point is 00:47:10 This tweet popped up over the weekend and caused a bit of kerfuffle. This was Keith Quinn, famed rugby sports commentator. I believe you've got some commentary there. Yeah, from back in the day. New Zealand have begun the game at the pace I think they'll want to play it. Bash up again, New Zealand. He was like the rugby commentator on TV One, like even before Sky, eh? He's been in the game probably more well-known lately. According to you and your family,
Starting point is 00:47:32 a Sydney funeral plan allows you to celebrate the things that really matter. For peddling death. Peddling death. He's got his funeral sorted. I like his planning. He's prepaid his funeral. Just like you prepay your mobile phone. You run out of data when you die.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Who knows what happens then. And who cares because you're dead. But he came out over the weekend and tweeted, What's happening to blokeism? Which sounds like a horrible... Sounds like the start of a Brian Tarmack-y tweet, doesn't it? In the TV news in the last few days, Dustin Johnson, Lewis Hamilton and Puma rugby players and coach
Starting point is 00:48:12 all crying their eyes out. Would the sight of All Blacks wearing pink boots have moved pine tree meads? I doubt it. Harden up, blokes of today. Oh, no. Now that got... Right here.
Starting point is 00:48:23 ...chastised. I heard Lewis Hamilton crying, and my first thought was, that's so nice that he felt that he could. But then at the end of it, he said sorry. And I was like, don't apologise. I think it's nice to see a guy showing some emotion. The Argentinians cried because they finally beat the All Blacks.
Starting point is 00:48:40 And the first time ever, I watched this. The guy in this is, I've watched an All Blacks game and they lost. So I'm 100% the curse. Okay. If I don't watch, they win. If I watch,
Starting point is 00:48:50 they always lose. The Argentinians, I don't know much about rugby, so don't expect like technical stuff, but the Argentinians were amazing. They were all over them. Passion. They were plagued with passion.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Yeah. Take all your set plays, take all that and put it in a bag and throw it in the bin because when you're plagued with passion. Oh, Take all your set plays, take all that and put it in a bag and throw it in the bin because when you're playing with passion, you're rug stoppable. Yeah. Okay. So, man, when
Starting point is 00:49:13 they cry, they bloody well deserved it. That coach is the first coach to ever beat the All Blacks for the Pins. Good on them for having a cry. That tweet's really unhelpful, given everything that we've been trying to tell men, like talk about your emotions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:27 What happened to blokeism? I think in record numbers, blokeism has taken their own lives, sadly, because there's been this whole generation of guys brought up by men who came back from the war who never learnt to express emotion. Very unhealthy. Yeah, wildly unhealthy.
Starting point is 00:49:43 And we've got a generation up and coming that can talk to their mates and their family and their, you know, friends and partners about their problems and cry openly and shit yes. That's fantastic if that's going to help anybody not hurt themselves and leave their family without a father or a brother or a son. But in saying that, Keith Quinn probably heard some of these similar messages. Let's remember he's 74. He's an old mate. Yeah. Well, even old mates can be bullied into changing their minds because he tweeted
Starting point is 00:50:15 nine hours ago. Well, that's late night for late Monday night. It's a school night. Well, Quinny was probably rocked by the social media backlash, unlike he's ever experienced. I think he's had a couple of these, hasn't he? Yeah, I think he was making tweaks to his funeral plan. He's like, to be honest, it's a surprise I'm still here. I don't want that song anymore.
Starting point is 00:50:34 He miles his Cigna rep. He said, point taken, everyone, for the record, and in all seriousness, I think it's great these days that men can openly express their emotions. I do myself often. I was really just thinking about the differences from earlier times. Well, at least he's made, you know, some kind of retraction. I don't think we need to cancel Keith Quinn.
Starting point is 00:50:55 No, he's escaped cancellation for today. I was going to take it to the cancellation committee. We had a meeting today about who they're cancelling this week. He's scraping by for now. Yeah, we've reached our quota for the week, so we'll probably just leave it for somebody else. Right. Fletch, Fawn and Megan. The podcast. ZM. It's time for
Starting point is 00:51:13 Fact of the Day! Day, day, day, day. Sorry, slightly distracted from today's fact of the day as I describe someone I saw at the weekend to Fletch in the hope that Fletch can work out who I'm talking about. Paul's like, there was this guy at the hotel. He had slicked back hair, looked a little bit like a politician. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:42 It's hard. Hold it, dude. I thought it was a great segment like Google can't help me. It's where people describe a problem. Because I can't just put into Google shorter New Zealand, possibly businessman slash maybe politician, thinning white hair, Queenstown, November. I just got to chuck all that into Google and expect a result.
Starting point is 00:52:07 You're such a nosy prick. Yeah. Oh, you know who had breakfast beside us? Who? Mike Pero Mortgages. Mike Pero? Mortgages? Is that a selfie?
Starting point is 00:52:15 His last name's Mortgages. Yeah. Nah, I didn't. And you know who else we saw in Queenstown? Why do you want a selfie with the mortgage guy? It's Mike Pero. Mortgages. Do you know him and Mike McRoberts, it might be Mike,
Starting point is 00:52:26 something in the name Mike. Self-fox. About aging very well. Yeah, right. Hey, that's great with grey hair. Yeah, I don't know what Mike Perro. No, no, almost there. Mike Perro.
Starting point is 00:52:35 There we go. I don't know what his sort of like fitness diet regime is. Or what was he eating at breakfast? He was eating svelte, muesli. That's probably it then. He's one of those people that goes out for breakfast and eats muesli. Yeah, it was he eating at breakfast? He was eating svelte muesli. That's probably it then. He's one of those people that goes out for breakfast and eats muesli. Yeah, it's crunchy, very crunchy. Well, I like the crunch.
Starting point is 00:52:51 I don't like a soggy. Can I say I'm more of a soggy breakfast? I'm an overnight host. You've got a lazy mouth. Well, I would have been having the eggs. After the weekend. Give it a rest. It needs to recover.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Wow. You're in so much trouble. Today's fact of the day. No, we're still trying to work out who this guy is. What? I can't help you. Well, I asked at reception. I was like, who was that?
Starting point is 00:53:14 Did you ask Mike Pero for a cheap mortgage? No. He was eating his muesli. You don't want to be bothered by me. I did wonder if he rode his motorbike down there, because, you know, there's the ad he's riding his motorbike. Mind you, that ad was shown during level four lockdown. I thought that was a bad time to launch that ad
Starting point is 00:53:31 where he literally drove the length of New Zealand to meet someone who he gave a mortgage to. Lucky he wasn't a super spreader. Exactly. But I asked at reception, I said, who was that? I'm going to hazard a guess and say, like me, the rest of the country don't really care
Starting point is 00:53:43 who this slipback hair guy is. Here's the thing. I don't care, but it's driving me, I can't sleep. You need to know. I need to know. You know, one of those inconsequential things that just plagues you. Yeah. You wake up in the middle of the night and you're like, who was it?
Starting point is 00:54:01 Anyway, I'll continue my search. He looked a little bit like David Carter, ex-National MP and Speaker of the House. A little bit. I don't even know what he looks like. It's troubling me. Anyway, today's fact of the day is about kitty litter. Wow.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Slight change of topic. The fact about kitty litter is that in the US, kitty litter is a $2 billion industry. Oh, wow. Every year. I'm not surprised. I go through a bit with old Major Murray Fluffington. Because that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:54:34 There's so many indoor cats in America. By the way, did you know if your cat gets feline AIDS, FIV I think it's called, you're supposed to keep it inside. It's never supposed to be an outside cat again. Yeah, because it could spread it around with other cats. Well, luckily that's why Major Murray
Starting point is 00:54:55 Fluffington's in a level 4 lockdown for life. But you can also get them immunised. Right, against that. So, not only is it a $2 billion industry, but it also consumes 5 billion pounds of mined clay. Oh, wow. I don't use the clay.
Starting point is 00:55:11 I use the silica. You use silica? It's like a crystal because it's really absorbent. I learned in my quest to not only find out who that old guy was at the QT in Queenstown, I also did some research on kitty litter. It was completely a coincidental discovery. People had been previously using shavings, like wood shavings.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Yep. But the idea was the wee would go through it, it would smell, and it wouldn't always clump. And so they were after something else, and somebody had baked tiny bits of off-cut clay from brick manufacturing and it got a little bit wet and it clumped together and the guy working there
Starting point is 00:55:51 was like, hmm, there could be something in that and that's when he started selling kitty litter but then silica came a little while later and is like,
Starting point is 00:55:58 not good for the breathing in the dust. Nah, it's not. That's what I learned. It said, don't breathe in the silica dust if you're getting it.
Starting point is 00:56:05 But yeah, I got more, but I felt like we got slightly waylaid at the front trying to work out who that guy was. And probably New Zealand are now just absolutely
Starting point is 00:56:15 driving themselves crazy as to who this mystery has been. Shorter, I'd say probably about 5'9". Okay. Because you're shorter than me. We can see if we can get a spot on Police 10-7.
Starting point is 00:56:29 I could sit down with a police sketch artist. I reckon I could pretty... Yeah, right. Okay. I reckon I could describe him pretty well. Okay. So today's fact of the day is in the US, the kitty litter industry is a $2 billion a year industry.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Pope Francis, or should I say Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, successor of the Church of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop in Metropolis. Metropolis? In Vicar of Dibley.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Silver and Saturday Night in the City in Vicar of Dibley. Silver and Saturday Night in the City and Vicar of Dibley are the eight titles. Wow. Wow. Didn't know that, that it had the full eight titles. His Instagram account, his official Instagram account, has been caught liking an Instagram post from a Brazilian model called Nata Gata. Nata Gata. Nata Gata.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Nata Gata. In this photo, she's got 2.2 million followers. Okay. Come to Brazil. She is in, either that skirt's been through the dryer and shrunk dramatically. I'll tell you what, that would get a lecture at assembly about skirt length if she was actually at school.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Wouldn't it? She would have been sent home, actually, before this period. Not much thicker than a belt. No. And she's wearing garter stockings. You can see a lot of the bottom. And she's putting some books into a locker, but I don't believe she's actually at school at all.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Right, okay. She said, I can teach you a thing or two. Obviously, they're a pun on the fact that she's at school. I can't wait for you guys to see my October shoot on my site. And one of the 125,000 likes on the photo was from the Pope's Instagram. What's his official Instagram account? It is Francis... Francis... Francis...
Starting point is 00:58:51 Francis and then C-U-S. Francis... Yeah, it's definitely him that's liked it. He doesn't follow anybody. 7.2 million followers. He's got exactly... He doesn't follow anyone. I'm just looking at the comments on this post.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And it's like, some people were saying so hot, even the Pope can't resist. Yeah. Someone said, good to know the Pope's an ass man too. Wow. She herself said, my mum might hate my ass pics, but at least the Pope be double tapping. So good. Oh, my God. Yeah, so.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Someone's in trouble. Yeah. What did he say? The missus? Yeah, only God's his missus. Yeah. He never had a partner. So we had a girl in the movie, the two Popes, which I watched on an airplane.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Was there nothing else? No, it was interesting because it had, the guy who played this Pope, Pope Francis, was the High Sparrow from Game of Thrones. Oh, yeah, he's good. He's a fantastic actor. Wasn't he a villain in a Bond movie? Maybe, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:56 And Anthony Hopkins played the last one, the German one, Benedict. Oh, yeah. The dark-eyed guy. Yeah. It was a really interesting movie, but I'm pretty sure he had a girlfriend right at the start, but then when they were young.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Right. And he was religious. Yeah. So I don't think they did anything. And then she, like, dumped him or whatever, and he became a priest. You were, like, amazed by this. He's only supposed to play with himself.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Yeah, you're not even meant to fondle yourself. I don't think he should be on this Instagram account then. There's thirst traps on there. It's triggering. It's triggering for him. There should be one of those, you know, when there's a sensitive photo and it blurs it out. It's like if you're the Pope, it's like this is everything.
Starting point is 01:00:40 It's too much for you, mate. I want to see the Pope's explore page. It'll be like really nice cathedrals and then thirst trap models. Some bikini models. Yeah. Maybe some horned Mercedes. And probably a cat or two. There's always a cat or a dog in Discover.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Yeah. Oh, the tastiest communion wafer. Yeah. Wafer of the month. We're talking about what you've smuggled into or what you've seen someone smuggle into the movies, food-wise. I saw a whole family take a hot chicken and buns
Starting point is 01:01:11 and coleslaw and make those in the cinema. That's nothing compared to what you saw, Mackenzie. What did you see somebody do? Oh, I didn't see it. I did it. Oh, this is you. You did it. It was me.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Okay, you better own up to this. So I had just bought a two-scoop sorbet cone ice cream and a waffle cone, and I smuggled that in there. No cover. In the handbag? No cover. In my handbag, yeah. I had no cover with the ice cream.
Starting point is 01:01:42 They didn't have, like, a... Oh, do you have a protective guard for my ice cream? I'm going to put it in my handbag. I don't know what your handbag's like, but... I was like, could I have one of those plastic, like, covers that you use for the cones? And they were like, no. So I had to get a plastic bag and cover the ice cream with the plastic bag and stick it into my handbag. How much looking of the plastic bag was there afterwards into my handbag. How much licking of the plastic bag
Starting point is 01:02:05 was there afterwards? Oh, none. I'm not going to lick a plastic bag. Oh, no. Billy McKenzie, thanks. You called Jazz. What did you sneak into the movies? We snuck in a couple of boxes of vodka. Just a couple?
Starting point is 01:02:22 No. My only problem with alcohol in the movies and because, you know, they do it in gold class and stuff as well, but my only problem is it makes me want
Starting point is 01:02:30 to go wheeze. Yeah. And I don't want to miss the movie. Yeah, it wasn't a great movie. I don't think we can't really remember it,
Starting point is 01:02:36 but it was good. Yeah, it's because you're a piss. It was pretty great. But it's like a chalk top. You ate that in the opening trailers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Uh, Jazz Sexy Cool, Leah, um, what did you smuggle into the movies? There hasn't been a lot of things we haven't smuggled into the movies. So I smuggled so much stuff that my friends started tagging me in so much memes. So I usually take all my meal prep, protein shakes, Starbucks, almost every fast food I've taken in. But then we started wanting to do comps and get people to make us food to take in before we go in.
Starting point is 01:03:08 So a sister made us tea and scone. So we took a hot flask and everything. Taken in cereal. And then taken in alcohol. And every time the word venom came up, we had to drink. And it was pretty plastered by the end of that one. Oh my God, you made an actual competition out of it. I love this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:28 I'm a real snacker so I have like blankets and pillows when I go in and slippers and socks and everything. Do you have to book out a couple of seats on the side or are there people right up against you? Oh no, I get the lazy boy ones at Metro.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Oh, you're fancy. Yeah, nice. You can spread out with the blankie. Yes, I make sandwiches, everything in the movies. Wow. Wow. But I take wipes. I'm not, like, dirty and I don't want to leave the surface.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I take wipes and wipe my hand and sanitizers and stuff. Oh, good. Oh, chill. Amazing, Leah. Thanks for your call some text messages. Not the only one. Somebody said they have taken a whole ramen into... Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Noodles. Yeah, a spicy ramen into a cinema, and getting it in was quite the balancing act, because it's in the bowl. Even with the lid on, that lid can't be trusted to be anything other than a splash. Very flimsy. But somebody else said they saw someone making an entire sushi situation in there.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Well, with the roller, you get the little bamboo roller. Yeah, they had the bamboo roller and they were rolling it. How can you see what you're doing? Yeah, roll it before you go in. Yeah. Sit in the car and roll yourself a big sushi. That's crazy. Oh, Lord.
Starting point is 01:04:43 These people can see well in the dark, clearly. Yeah, someone else said, these amateurs are really annoying me. If you're going to play these games, you've got to have one of those big packets of wet wipes in your purse. Yeah. And always have them on hand for a hand wipe afterwards. And always clean up
Starting point is 01:05:00 after yourself. Someone said, I smuggle a lot of food in, but I always clean up after myself. That's good. Good to know. I work at a lot of food in but I always clean up after myself. That's good. It's good to know. I work at a small cinema. A customer once tried to set up a cooker at the front of the cinema to cook up some sausages
Starting point is 01:05:11 for his family when the movie started. You are kidding me. It was a small barbecue is how I would describe it. What? The boss was watching and he got kicked out.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Yeah, someone tried to have a little saucy sizz. I wouldn't mind as long as they were sharing. I wouldn't mind just sausage in the movies. For the sheer entertainment of watching that alone, you just leave the movie and watch another one another time. Yeah. Steve, your sausage is ready.
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