ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 22nd July 2020

Episode Date: July 21, 2020

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Hello and welcome to the Fletchmore and Megan podcast. It's thanks to McCafe Gravy South for delicious barista made coffee for only $4. Thank you. Are we clapping? Yay, McDonald's, a $4 coffee. Brilliant. Yeah, great. We got a musical greeting card. Okay. Open it and it's got like a...

Well, it's meant to sing happy birthday, isn't it? Yeah. However... Do you want to hear? What? You're going to play it and then we're going to say what happened. Or do we need to preempt what is about to happen by explaining it first? No, don't preempt it.

I think we should say happy birthday. Open the card. Okay. I'm opening the card. Let's just see how long this goes on for. It's a lot. Oh, it's over. That was the end of it.

It's over. It's pretty quick. So I had to Google. So this is a greeting card. I think it's made by an American company because I Googled the back of it. Whoever bought this card left on it the price sticker and also the record. There's a little record sticker. Yeah.

So that you could should you want to record your own greeting yeah record you singing happy birthday to the person you're giving the card to so normally it's like happy birthday to you and then you shut the card and it stops you open it up it's like happy birthday i gotta plug it i gotta plug it yeah i gotta plug it full of sunshine but yeah you can actually record your own message and i googled the youtube how-to and it says you press record once and it beeps. And then you speak and then you press it again and it beeps twice. And that is your greeting card recorded.

And this is what happens when Vaughn gets his answer. So it's great. So we're just giving this card to everybody in the office. This is how juvenile we are. And watching them open it. It's brilliant. So we've just been giving this card to everybody in the office. This is how juvenile we are. And watching them open it. It's brilliant. Yeah. The only one that didn't fall for it was Ross Boss,

who took the card, opened the door into a communal meeting area, and he threw the card out and shut the door. He didn't know the card had that noise in it, so it flopped open on the floor In the middle of a meeting Brilliant That is Vaughn Is that what you sound like during Is that how quick it is

That's the long That's the Peter Jackson That's the editor's cut The sound kind of sounds like a goat Vaughn does A goat in the throes of passion. Guys, a lot of quality of the whole momentous journey, the sound of it was lost because of the recording quality of the card.

Right, because it's a mono speaker. I had low notes. I'm in stereo. I'm in Dolby 5.1. I'm behind you. I've got a subwoo.1. Yeah, right. I'm behind you. I've got a subwoofer. All of these things are taken away because that records at the lowest quality possible. Yeah, right.

Yeah. That guy has snowy hair. Look at that guy's snowy. Or is it a girl? It's a lady. Look at that lady's snowy hair. Do you mean grey? No, it's like white, white, white.

Yeah. How great is that? She's got black undergrowth. Oh, do you, it's like white, white, white. How great is that? But she's got black undergrowth. Oh, do you think it's a dye job? I think it's a dye job. I saw her black, the roots were black. This is an observation. This is happening in real life.

This isn't some sort of, you haven't stumbled across our theatre sports ad lib. Change from one topic to another as quick as you can. Because Megan and I can look out the window in our studio and there's always that girl who walks past the show with the big fluffy earmuffs. God, she's a delight. Massive fluffy earmuffs. Every day I'm just like, I rate her for wearing those

because I'd be too embarrassed because everybody would look at you. What happened to the hot guy that walked past that would then? We haven't seen him for ages. I don't know if he's. The bowel would get run. I'm wondering if he's a COVID layoff from upstairs. Because We haven't seen him for ages. I don't know if he's... The bell would get rung. I'm wondering if he's a COVID layoff from upstairs. Because we haven't seen him for ages. Because we haven't seen him for ages

because every morning at like 7.25... The hot guy would walk by. The hot guy would walk by. And the bell would go... It's just so Megan had enough time... To do that. Which is inappropriate. Yeah, okay, yeah, great.

But if he has, I'd say we give him a seven bell salute And a moment of silence Thank you for your time Why seven? I don't know, it just felt ceremonial Yeah, it just felt ceremonial 21 gun salutes saved for the big dogs Like, if I get laid off, there'll be a hot guy bell 21 bell salute. You know, like, you're real.

Supermodels. I think if you get laid off, the entire office will party. Aww. Jokes. Oh, my God, jokes. Do the bell thing. Give yourself a bell. Enjoy the podcast.

ZM. Hit music. Lives here. Flesh, fauna, Megan. The podcast. Good morning. Good morning. So this cat that hitched a ride underneath the truck.

Yeah. Someone's like, well, my cat's been gone a few days. How was it described? A moggy. A moggy. I think it was white and ginger. Had some orange in it. Yeah.

Very long way from home. Yeah, I saw a picture of it. It's a bit... It's a bit what? Oh, you are such a... He's a cat snob. I'm a cat snob. He's a cat snob.

So mean. He's a cat snob. I'm a cat snob. I'm a cat snob. He's a cat snob. So mean. He's a cat snob. I'm a cat snob. I am. What were you going to say? I was just about manky. I knew that was the exact word you were going to use.

Yeah. Manky cat. No, it's great though. Hopefully they can. It's great though. Well, no, because I still love cats, don't I? Do you? Do you love all cats?

I love all cats. You just referred to that cat as Mankey. This could be a great outcome. If they find the owner, lovely. It's this kind of story, the good hope story we need at the moment in this world. I think you call it feel good story. Feel good, yep, that's right. Good hope story. Good hope story.

He was trying. I appreciated the effort. Another good hope story. Well, it is. It's a good story about hope. I appreciated the effort. Another good hope story. Well, it is. It's a good story about hope. Feel good. Yeah. Yeah.

It's the end of the news bulletin kind of story you need. Yeah, it is. The top six is coming up. Yes, it is. What's her name? No, no. River Wilson. That's the part that escaped me.

River Wilson, she's in Australia, and she has been doing squats with a wombat. Holding the wombat, doing squats. Yeah. And she's come under fire. At the zoo. Yeah. River Wilson's almost hit that level of being someone

that probably can't do anything right. Like, yeah, she does something, and people will be looking for the problem. Isn't that just anyone? This wombat doesn't look in any distress. I feel like even her exercise buzz, she's going to come under fire.

So being like, what was wrong with you before? Yeah, she'll be like, oh, just leave me alone. So she's been seen doing squats with a wombat. I've got the top sex other Australian animals that would be great for working out. Flesh, fauna, Megan. The podcast.

ZM. You might remember, it was a couple of years ago. In fact, it is almost two years ago because it was in August that it happened in 2018 that it was revealed that a large egg provider had been saying, this is chicken eggs, had been saying that they were providing free-range eggs in the little carton with free-range eggs written on it. I remember this. But they were caged eggs and there were three million.

They did a tally up of how many eggs were produced, how long it had been going and came to the estimate that three million eggs had been mislabeled. I always get free-range. Do you do that at the supermarket? But it's really confusing because some of them say barn. Some of them

say farm. So cage means they're in a cage and the food gets delivered to them and they're in a cage and they lay the egg and it rolls out the back of the cage. That's cage. Barn means they can move within the barn but they never go without the barn. You think barnyard, oh that's cool, but then it's

not. But it's not what you think. It's not one of those cute red barns with lots of green grass and there's a metre between each chicken. It's not that. You have a second story on the barn and there's a hole in there and a thing where you pull the hay up and store it up in there. Like a stereotype.

How good is a barn? Yeah. It's not that. It's not that. I think if you went to a barn chicken farm, you'd be like, this is not right. A, it's nasty. B, it stinks. C, oh, these chickens don't get to go outside.

Yeah, and then I bought an SPCA approved one before thinking, well, I don't know what they're talking about. And someone said to me, oh, no, you've got to be careful. And I'm like, I just, I need them to be labelled very straight up. These ones roam around a lot. If it says free range and it's SPCA, then the SPCA has guaranteed that that's free range, right? They've checked on it.

If it says barn raised and it's SPCA, they've been and seen that it's barn conditions. It's not cage conditions. And it's just guaranteeing what it says it is, right? Right. So it's important to know that situation. But I had, because we've had chickens for nearly a year now. Right. And we went away and got eggs, like ordinary eggs.

And I said to Sade, I was like, I don't want to sound like one of those assholes with a chicken. But you are an asshole with a chicken. With chickens, I'd be like, these are just not the same, are they? Yeah. Even the free range ones, like, that you buy. Sometimes, no, because we grew up with chickens, like, when I was a kid. And, yeah, you'd go to supermarket eggs, you'd be like, what are these?

Yeah. Because even if they're free range, there's probably, like, thousands of other chickens there. Yeah. And they're walking around outside and they're having a peck's probably like thousands of other chickens there. Yeah. And they're walking around outside and they're having a peck and a scratch in the ground, but it's still... But it's like your chickens are eating nuclear grains because sometimes those yolks are like fluorescent orange.

You're like, where? They actually are. Why is this back in the news? Well, he's been sentenced. Right. He was, because it's been in the court and everything and didn't go to prison Even though that was a very real possibility

At home detention But he sold three million eggs Yeah Lied about them Made a $50,000 donation to the SPCA And pleaded guilty to one charge That kind of covered it all Right

And so what? Home detention Yeah But I assume that this place is still running, but it's not mislabelling its eggs. Yeah, right. But I belong to a few like animal rehoming Facebook pages.

Yeah. And every now and then, like people who have these chicken farms will just be like, oh, we're getting out of business. So, and they just contact these animal shelters and they're like, I know you're against this sort of thing. You're against us, our existence animal shelters and they're like, I know you're against

this sort of thing. You're against us, our existence in the first place, but basically, if you can rehunt these chickens, come and get them. Otherwise,

they're just going to get killed. Oh no. And then these people who don't, didn't think cage or barn raised chickens were great in the first place have to go in and be like,

oh yeah, these aren't in great condition, but yeah, we'll take them because we love animals and we'll try to rehunt them. Oh my gosh. And it happens quite a bit. So, these aren't in great condition, but yeah, we'll take them because we love animals and we'll try to rehind them. Oh my gosh. And yeah, it happens quite a bit.

So, I don't know. Just check where those eggs are coming from. Yeah. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. So eight magazines are going to be shut down for good. This is from Bauer Media in Australia because we've had that hit in New Zealand, Bauer Media in New Zealand.

But these are publications that you'll know. Harper's Bazaar, Elle, InStyle, Men's Health, Women's Health, Good Health, MW and OK. All being shut down. Men's Health. Sometimes I'd read that at the supermarket.

Yeah, that was the one I was looking at. I used to get that sometimes because it had like exercises in it. And like nice healthy recipes. Yeah, that's true. I got the one when like Ryan Reynolds or like Jake Gyllenhaal were like shaping up for a movie. They were on the front cover. You're like, what's their workout?

I think there's some more photos of them on the inside. Oh, they were working out, were they? I feel like those photos should have also been in Women's Health Yeah Were they ever hidden in Women's Health?

Nah I never picked up Women's Health just because I was very worried about people being like what's that creepy dude reading Women's Health

But this isn't just their physical publications it's online as well Oh wow So shut down for good. But then there's still a US, there'll be a US Men's Health, Women's Health online. But I always blew my mind that people still bought those when you could find it for free online. I know.

You can find all kinds of workouts online for free. It's not the same though. Like, you don't sit down and read the magazine online. You know what I mean? Like, be like sunbathing or like at a hairdresser or just chilling somewhere. Nah. Just go on the phone. I don't touch anything.

You're waiting at a waiting room. You read a magazine or you're waiting somewhere. I don't touch anything. I never go out of my, even at an airport to buy a magazine. It's just a waste of time. Oh my God. I used to always buy NW. I mean, the stories

turned out to not often be. That was New Weekly, right? And then it got changed to NW. Yeah. And it was stuff like just wild crazy celebrity stories. Yeah. Like, Leonardo DiCaprio refloats the Titanic. Yeah. And then you'd go in and you'd be

like, and you'd be like, and you'd get to the end of the story and it's like, oh, he made a Titanic out of Lego. Yeah. And you're like, well, that's bullshit. Was that the one that was always like, celebs with no makeup? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

What happened to... It was actually quite mean. Yeah, and it would tear models down when they were pregnant. Pregnant or fat. The Anne Hathaway inside story. Okay, so in hindsight, that wasn't very... What was the one? OK Magazine? Was that the one where it's like, my sex orgy with aliens?

No, that's life. Okay, that's life still going? I have to say, because I love a bit of that's life. I think that's life might have survived COVID weirdly. Are you kidding me? It's a puzzle. It's lots of puzzles, isn't it? Who reads that?

Stinky ghost in my house of hell. I just Googled life's best headlines. I swapped a bowl of pasta for a baby. He swapped our dream wedding for a kebab. My dead boyfriend phoned me from beyond the grave. My lovemaking style so rampant I broke my man's willy. So has it survived? I was killed in 1916.

I found this photo of my past life face. Wow. My best mate's a potato. That's my favourite. I got trapped in a fridge but ketchup kept me sane. And they wrote notes in ketchup. Wow.

Double decker home wrecker. Bus driver hubby had two lovers on the number 43. A dog with a blog. Who's barking now? That's from Bowel Media in the UK, so maybe they have survived. Wow.

Really? Okay. Yeah. I mean, how could you not with headlines and journalism? My best friend's a potato. I'm hiring a stripper for my dead sister. I'm in love with a skeleton. Peppa Pig destroyed our marriage. Whoopie Cushion killed grandma.

Oh, I need to know how that happened. We were married by a giant rabbit. No fake tan till she turns four. Oh, my gosh. Wow. This is also a sad indication on life in the UK, too, isn't it? Mum's Christmas miracle. A ghost gave me triplets.

I turned my dead hubby into teabags. What? I don't. It just goes on. Wow. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. ZM. Netflix is testing a new feature.

This is already rolled out for some people. I just had a quick login on my Netflix on the lappy. It's not there. There is a button called Play Something, and it's got the shuffle, like emoji, the symbol for shuffle. Yeah. And this is going to mean that if you can't decide what you want to watch on Netflix,

you press play something and it will just shuffle through Netflix. No, bad idea. That is a bad idea. There's so much on there. I know, so much rubbish. But you might have the jackpot. But I'm assuming it also plays something in your algorithm. You know how everything is tailored on

Netflix? Like everything you normally watch it'll give you more of the same. I hate it when it's like you like this and you start and you're like no I won't. You don't know me Netflix. And then you smash it. The worst is when you're like you might like this you start watching it and you're like I know exactly why you think I like this Netflix.

And that was a vulnerable time for me. And you're like I personally can't believe you're bringing it up. You son of a bitch. Amazon Prime wouldn't do this to me. But I don't, it's not just going to start like midway through a show, is it? No. You monster. It's not a show for the episode.

Like season three, episode 11 of some show I've never seen. Now we're taking you back to season one, episode one. Can you at least say like movie or TV series? I don't know. There's not a lot of info on it. It's just some people have recognised it and shared it online. iPod shuffles teach us nothing. It's that 90% of your music is rubbish.

Yeah. And it doesn't tell you what you feel like. It tells you what you don't feel like. And then you're like, why is this on my iPod? Yeah. You it doesn't tell you what you feel like. It tells you what you don't feel like. And then you're like, why is this on my iPod? Yeah. You're like, shuffle. You're like, this is going to be good because I am a master DJ. And you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

The modern equivalent to bring that into the modern age for the kids is when you go to Spotify's most played and you're like, what's this rubbish? What's this rubbish? And it's all stuff you've listened to. Yeah. I can't believe this is in the top played. It's my jam, but I can't believe it's in the most played.

It's just saying you've got terrible taste in music. Isn't it? You're embarrassed by it. Netflix just played me a rubbish show and now you've said I've got a rubbish taste in music. There's a common denominator here. It's very reflective here. It's 6.30 in the morning.

Flesh, fauna, Megan. The podcast. ZM. From the ZM think tank, this is the top six. Rebel Wilson angers animal rights activists over wombat squats from the Daily Mail. Rebel Wilson slammed for appalling wombat squat stunt.

News.com.au. River Wilson. Oh, that's the same one. How cute does it look, though? Because you know how you do squats with like a medicine ball or a bag? Yeah. It's a furry wombat. Did they say how much it weighed?

Because he was chunky. And it wasn't. I saw it and I did think, people aren't going to like this. But it wasn't struggling or anything. 20 to 35 kgs is the average wombat mass. Yeah, they're stocky little units. I wonder by the end of it, she was like. Yeah.

But I've seen, because I quite like an Australian war life show. Yeah. Where you have a look at all the war life. And that's how they carry, that's how I've seen zookeepers carry a wombat exactly like that. Well, she was at the zoo. They gave it to her and were like, you know, watching her do it. They must have thought it was okay. Sydney Zoo.

And the wombat wasn't like, oh, let me go. And what Sydney Zoo is that, Taronga Zoo? Shit, that's a good zoo. I think so. Have you been? Like when I was a kid, yeah. And the wombat wasn't like, oh, let me go. And what Sydney Zoo is that, Taronga Zoo? Shit, that's a good zoo. I think so. Have you been? Like when I was a kid, yeah. Catch the fairy. You went to the Sydney Zoo as a kid.

Oh, it was like, I don't know. Not the fairy one, the one that, what's the one on the way out of Sydney? On the way to the Blue Mountains? Is that one? The Australian crocodile. We went to the crocodile one as well. That was a good zoo as well. I can't remember, but it was a good zoo.

Taronga Zoo is a beautiful zoo. Yeah, right. As far as zoos go. But, yeah, maybe she was at Taronga Zoo. Oh, yeah, no, now I'm thinking about that zoo. That was a good zoo. I think of all the koalas I've held, that was the least stinky one. Okay.

But I've got the top six other Australian animals that could be great for working out. Because, you know, you've got to try whenever you can. Number six, a kickboxing class with a kangaroo. God, you haven't landed one. You're out. Exactly. Why, it'd be great. Certainly, even if you were tired,

you'd still be trying to dodge it. And put some little boxing gloves on its hands. It'd be pretty cute. I don't know if I still do that with kangaroos. I don't know if you're allowed to. Yeah. Remember that Bugs Bunny cartoon where they thought it was like a big boxing mouse, but it was a kangaroo.

And then everyone around the world had that introduction to kangaroos and had this wild misrepresented view of kangaroos in their head. Number five on the top six other Australian animals that could be great for a workout are training class for a workout. Training class with a snake. Like hit. Like hit. High intensity.

A hiss. High intensity interval training. High intensity interval. Interval. Snaking. Snaking. Snaking, yeah. Okay, hey, look, I wrote it down.

It seemed to run at the time, but no, but again. Tough crowd. Tough crowd. Critics, no, I like this. I like being tested. I like being pushed to be a better person. Number four on the list of the top six other Australian animals that would be great for working out. Snatch and grab lifting with a dingo.

Yep, okay. I'll let that one sink in. You might have to put a harness on it. Yeah, I got it. The baby. Yeah. Snatch and grab. Yeah. Oh, you got it. You just didn't like it. Yeah, I got it. The baby. Yeah. Snatch and grab. Yeah.

Oh, you got it. You just didn't like it. All right. No, that's fine. That's another critique there. Tough crowd. Number three on the list of the top six other Australian animals to be grateful working out are chin-ups with a koala because they've got great grip, don't they?

Yeah, they do. They can hold on to a tree and all sorts of conditions. People put weights around their waist to do chin-ups or... Yeah. Well, the koala? Yeah, they do. They can hold onto a tree in all sorts of conditions. It's like people put weights around their waist to do chin-ups or... Well, the koala could just cuddle you. Oh, they can hold on so you've got the extra weight for the pull-up. Oh, cute. And it could teach you good techniques. Each leg. Koalas.

Just as a bit of a weight. I've never known it to be so windy that a koala could be blown out of a tree. They can get up to 15 kgs, koalas. Really? Yeah, 4 to 15 kgs, koalas. Really? Yeah, four to 15. Yeah. No, because they've got claws.

They're not letting go of the tree. And they wrap around. To blow a koala tree out of a tree. Well, I mean, the tree could get blown over, right? Yeah. I think it's more likely the tree's going to blow over before a koala gets... Blown out.

Yeah. Do you reckon they're just like, hold on as long as they can? Yeah, 100. Number two on the list of the top six other Australian animals that'd be great for working out leg day with an emu. Very powerful legs.

Yeah. Very powerful legs. And number one on the list of the top six other Australian animals that'd be great for working out with. You could do F45 with a crow because both are very annoying. Very. for working out with how you could do F45 with a crow because both are very annoying. Very

annoying. Mind you, the crows never tried to get you to do the discount code so maybe the crows are the lesser evil. They're not posting

as much on social either. No, no. Oh, I'm right in front of it. Cool. That is today's top six. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. This weekend is the 25th annual Parliamentary Rugby Match.

This is the rugby match I was speaking about moments ago. And Dr Ash. Megan looks really confused. 25th annual. I don't think I've ever heard of it before. Yeah, they get out there and they play a little bit of rugs. It's like all the politicians. Yeah.

Parliament people. And Jacinda's halfback, isn't she? Oh, she better be. And she's not. Do they have training? I'm just worried they'll all hurt themselves right before election. Is it also people in the background? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like it's not just politicians, eh? Yeah. In fact, there's probably very few. If you were to put together a front row, that'd probably be the one thing the National Party would be all right at the moment. You've got Jerry Brownlee. Yeah.

He's going to be a force to be reckoned with. Pushing forward. Hard to stop. Judith Collins. She'd be up underneath. Giving the bit of that. Oh yeah. She'd be a cheat.

She'd be punching people under the. A boom, a boom. chucking them up underneath. Yeah. In fact, those two could just be a two-person scrum, couldn't they? They'd be really going at it. But yeah, Dr Ashley Bloomfield's going to be playing. Can we afford him to... I'm just thinking I don't want any of them to get hurt.

I don't want him getting hurt. I watched the briefing yesterday online, and right at the end, the journalist asked him a couple of questions. And he said he wanted to be on the wing, but he's been put into the scrum at number six. What? And he's like, okay, cool. He should be number six.

I know, he should be on the wing. We can't have him getting crushed in a scrum. I just want to be on the position where I'm furthest away from everyone. Is that the wing? Way out on the side. Yeah, or a fullback. Run up the sideline and if someone pushes me out

I'll be like, you can have that. Yeah. That's a flanker position, right? Six. I believe so, yeah. Yeah. Flanker.

Yeah, yeah. Three. You've got the three at the front, the one, two, three, and then you've got four on five. Six on that side, seven on that side, the number eight at the back and then behind that is the halfback at nine and then you've got four on five there, six on that side, seven on that side, the number eight at the back,

and then behind that's the halfback at nine, and then it spreads out. Yeah. He's not flanking material. He's a first five. He could play a good first five. Yeah, well, I don't know. I reckon he'll be nimble.

Because he used to play rugby, didn't he? Yeah, he did. But yeah, there are going to be a lot of cameras there. I need to know. I think this will be a big story.'t want to know the two scrums. And there's some old All Blacks playing, isn't there? Yeah, there are. In the team that they're up against.

Yep. I just saw the name Stephen Bashup written down, and that was a real blast from the All Blacks past. The Bashups. Yeah, right. Okay. They call them the Bashups. Anyone else that we'd recognise from the list that you've got?

Not like Norm Hewitt. Oh, yeah. Norm Hewitt's on the list. Storm and Norman. Storm and Norm. I know Trevor Mallard used to play, but apparently, well, he must be getting a bit long in the tooth because he's going to manage. Oh, right.

Well, he's the Speaker of the House. He's probably got no time to get hurt. But no, he's going to be down there. Okay. But he used to love a cycle, didn't But no, he's going to be down there. Okay. But he used to love a cycle, didn't he? He used to be quite the fit situation. Yeah. Is Jacinda actually playing? No. Oh, no. That's probably for the best. No, no, no. She's not.

No, no. Well, you can't have the Prime Minister playing. No. But imagine how crazy this must look to other countries around the world who are scrambling to contain the country. But imagine how crazy this must look to other countries around the world who are scrambling to contain the greatest pandemic of modern times.

And New Zealand's like, we're going to play rugby on Saturday with some old All Blacks and the guy who's in charge of the pandemic and politicians and stuff. And we're just like, well, have you guys given up? Are you all just giving up?

Oh no, we've kind of got this under control. But imagine if Jacinda played and you dropped an elbow or something and gave her a black eye and then she's doing like briefings and talking to world leaders. With a missing tooth and a black eye. She's like, oh, the sports injury. Because she should have worn a mouth guard. Yes.

Yeah. Always wear a mouth guard. Flesh Warner Megan,an and Mouthguard. Yes. Yeah. Always wanted a mouthguard. Fletch Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. ZM. My father-in-law is, he's just lovely. But he's got an Instagram account now. Wow. He's got an Instagram account?

My mum's got an Instagram account, but she doesn't do anything apart from like. She's not uploaded any photos. Oh, she likes some photos of mine. Maybe the cats the other day. She loves your cat. Yeah. Oh, you should have to come mine. Maybe the cats the other day. She loves your cat. Yeah. Oh, you should have to come around. She would love that.

Yeah, invite her around. She would love that. Christine. She loves a cat. Can we meet Major Murray Fluffington? Yeah. My dad has got Instagram, but he doesn't do much. Just looks.

He's just a creep. Yeah, just patrols. Just a creep. I think he follows both of you and just like patrols. Oh, that's good. But no, this is my father-in-law and he has taken to commenting on Instagram. Wow. On your photos?

Oh, right. Okay. And it's always very positive and very sweet, but let me read you some. You're a bit like, it's positive and it's sweet But It sounds like it might Air on the side of awkward Not awkward It's just funny Okay read us a couple

Okay so this is a picture of Myself Andrew and Leo It was during lockdown Okay And he said Shout out to all my fam Cozy and safe in their bubble

Love you all Shout out to all my fam. Cozy and safe in their bubble. Love you all. Shout out to all my fam. That's all right. That's all right. Shout out to the fam. That's, it is weird. Even sometimes I don't say shout out. I just want to give a shout out to, I don't say shout out because I'm like, I don't know.

I'm over 35 now. I don't know if that's my jurisdiction, my language jurisdiction. Very reluctant to say shout out. But I always crack up when I hear older people say shout out. Yeah. I just want to give a shout out to... Shout out to the fam. It's even better in a professional environment.

I just want to give a shout out to the web team. The web team are like, don't give us a shout out. We know. I need to give this one context on the picture. So Andrew's holding a chicken tender and I'm like trying to lean in and bite it. Okay. This is a hashtag

spawn? Yeah. Okay, so it's a spawn chicken tender. Okay. And my father-in-law comments, if it smells good, should taste good, give the girl a wee bite. Ah, face. Oh, okay.

So he's saying to give, let you have a bite of the chicken tender. But when you read it, my first thing was, you look good and he smells, he knows you smell good,

so have a little bite. Yeah. Give her a little bite from me. Yeah. Right. Okay, so double meaning there. So cute. And then the latest one is a selfie.

And he, it's a selfie of me and my husband. He commented, so elegant and cute. You two love birds. Just tweeting along. Just tweeting along. Because I love birds. Oh, you're right. It's not, no, he knows that's not a tweet. Okay, yeah. Because I love birds. Oh, you're right. It's not,

no, he knows that's not a tweet. Okay, yeah. He knows he's not tweeting. Just we're birds tweeting along. Oh, see, that's just him

being pretty adorable. Yeah. He sang the lyrics to Lovers in the Air on one of our photos and then put like every musical emoji he could find.

I actually, it's so sweet. Yeah, my dad's, he does a light venture into emoji land every now and then. Yeah. He'll get to a point, my guy, I think it was about carving, he chucked a couple of cow ones in there and then he put a crazy face in and then a sleepy one because he was tired.

Yeah. I quite like that. I quite like when they give that a blast. Yeah. Give that a go. Why not? Yeah. But, I mean, it's not embarrassing.

I think it's sweet. But every now and then I'm just like, I don't, tweeting along. Oh, bless his wee heart. But I'd love to know if you have a relative that has taken to social media and somewhat embarrassed you. Because that's not embarrassing. That's actually just quite cute and somewhat embarrassed you. Because that's not, yeah, that's not embarrassed. That's actually just quite cute and funny. Yeah, yeah.

But, yeah, sometimes they're a little bit. Who was it? Mountie, was it you telling us the other day that your boyfriend's nana is on the gram? Yeah, that's true. That's so epic. That's great, eh? I'd love if Marlene was on the gram.

She'd follow all the warriors, eh? Oh, God, would she want? And she'd be on their case after every game with what they did wrong. Yeah, he posts fight photos. Because he does MMA, not just like. Yeah, so all the guys are there like, yeah, let's get it, bro. And then Nana comes along and she's like, so handsome. You should be a model.

That is so wholesome. So handsome. By the way, this is It is so wholesome. So handsome. Wait, this is post-fight. He's not, like, bleeding or anything, right? No, she doesn't like those ones. Oh, okay. Maybe we need to not, like, when has it been, like, awkward, but, like, when has it been really wholesome?

Really cute. Like, when has an older family member come in and just created some wholesome content? Yeah, for a change on SoshMed. Yeah. Rather than the negative. Yeah, yeah. On SoshMed. Yeah. Rather than the negative. How good is seeing just some wholesome content?

Someone's mum or nana comments on their photo. You look lovely, dear. So rather than hear about the embarrassing times. Yeah. Maybe you were absolutely slizzard.

Am I allowed to say that? I don't feel comfortable saying shout out but I feel like I was around when the G6 people was getting slizzard. Am I allowed to say that? I don't feel comfortable saying shout out, but I feel like I was around when the G6 people was getting slizzard. Yeah. On a G6? Mm-hmm. And Nana was like, don't you look gorgeous?

And you're like, I'm ripped, Nana. Your nungas are about to fall out. You're like drunk. It was two minutes before you just spewed. Nana's like, oh, my beautiful little girl or something. Yes, yes, yes. Wholesomeness. Right.

Let's embrace the wholesomeness. Okay, well, we want to take your calls. 0800 DARS at M9696. When did an older family member really make something super wholesome? Online. When they commented wholesome. Online. When they commented. Yeah. Okay.

And maybe, like you say, it wasn't a photo that deserved wholesomeness. Or maybe they didn't quite understand. Yeah. Maybe they didn't know what was happening later that night in that photo. Or what led you to the point of that photo. Megan's father-in-law has just taken to commenting on the gram. Commenting quite like nice things.

Cute, wholesome. Yeah, it was really wholesome. So we were thinking about hearing about when you were embarrassed on social media, but then we just thought the wholesomeness. Everyone needs a little bit of wholesomeness. Yeah. On a Wednesday. A Wednesday morning.

And it's rare on the gram, isn't it? It is. It's rare on any social media. That's why when you see it, it feels so good. It feels so good. Somebody messaged in saying, my nana on Facebook embarrasses me with every single post. I believe we've got them on the phone.

Gemma. Oh, no. This is a slightly different story. This is Gemma. Your nana Went on Instagram Yeah My nana

I've got a cousin Called James And so she went To try and find All of her grandkids On Instagram And then added Every single

James Alongside our last name In the world And then went through And added all of me and my sister's experience. We're getting these messages like, is this your nana?

And we're like, oh, crap. Okay. So my sister just arrived around there and kind of like... Help her through it. Help her with her account. Do a clean up. Oh, no.

Wow. So if you put up a photo... Oh, she's lovely, but yeah. If you put up a photo and then they commented, she'd just add them. She would. She would. She'd go through it all out,

thinking, oh, they must be, you know, some family or something of ours. Just add them all. It was lovely. And Nana goes to your cousin James' Instagram and starts following all the bikini models that James follows. Oh, my gosh.

Doesn't James have some very well-endowed friends? What, does she ever comment anything cute? Yeah, she brings me up to say I've got two young boys and she follows the staycare site that I do and she thinks you're doing lovely things with your kids. And I'm like, oh, they're not even my kids, Nana. But, oh, thank you. Yeah, no, she's lovely.

Your house is so full of Play-Doh and small toys. It's everywhere. You're always painting. Wow. Brilliant. Gemma, thanks for your call. Some text messages. I chucked up a silly photo of me just for a laugh,

and my mate started bantering with me, and my mum comments saying, you don't listen to any of these people. You're the most handsome boy there is in the comments. Oh, I love it. So wholesome. It's so embarrassing. My nan and pa have a joint Facebook.

I'll be talking to them in Messenger. And then they would reply to a conversation on a random photo from 12 months ago. Like that gin pop out in the bed. This is lovely. When was this taken? Oh, that's like two years old. They're just scrolling back through the chat. Oh.

Yeah. And back through Facebook, because I'm guessing when you're following like three people, your grandkids. Yeah. Your feed's going to be full of like four things. Pretty short. And the old stuff would always pop back up. My father-in-law recently got Instagram as well, Megan.

So there you go. Yeah. Except his messages are incredibly hard to decipher. He uses what he calls text speak. Oh, no. And it's 95% emojis. People are like, who's that? Is everything all right?

Is this a spam bot that's following you? Sometimes I get excited when a word's highlighted and you can replace it with an emoji. My mum does that. So everything's replaced with emojis. Right, yeah. God, I'm so hot today. And then it's like, do you want this face?

Yes. Wow. My mum has recently discovered that most places you go, you can leave a Facebook review. So she writes really intense, in-depth reviews of places like the local Maccas and a place down the road that sells her cappuccinos. Right, okay. As long as they're nice and positive, that's great.

She said there has been a few two stars in there. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Yeah. I put up a photo at a friend's 21st. We were all very messy. The makeup was running and everything, and my Nana commented on it saying,

there's my beautiful granddaughter. What a treasure. Wholesome. Wholesome. One eye sharp. Thanks, Nana. Dribbling. Probably got a Bacardi Breezer in one hand, a Jell-O shot in the other.

Yeah. Okay, that's good. That's good that they're making it wholesome out there. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. I got an email last night, quarter to 11, so I didn't get it until I woke up this morning because, phew, I was asleep by then. And I thought my first initial reaction was,

it's a spam and it's a scam. It's one of those emails that looks like it's from a company that you've got dealings with. Yeah. And it's like, click on this link. And you're like, wait a minute. Get your money back here. We just need your credit card.

Yeah. Because, you know, just because. We'll put it back on their credit card. Are you reaching the age where we need to look out for you? No, no, no. I'm still. Do you need me, no, no. I'm still. Do you need me to look over there? I'm still well on it.

No, because I don't have to do anything. Okay. Yeah, right. Okay. But I'm getting a refund from who I insure my cars with. Why? Because during lockdown, there was way less car-related claims. And so they said the premium was higher than it needed to be to cover our payouts.

Because way less people were driving that we've decided to refund. You're saying a scummy insurance company is doing something nice. What's the catch? Because if I was them... They didn't have to do this. Yeah, if I was them, I'd just be like, oh, well, them's the brakes. Yep. Yay.

You weren't driving, but that's your premium, so suck it. It was the... Okay, so this is what it says. For your reference, your refund is calculated based on a 45% reduction to the combined value of your two motor vehicle premiums from 24th of March to the 13th of May. motor vehicle premiums from 24th of March to the 13th of May.

So that was like level three and four lockdown. Right. But you were still using your car. Yeah, I know. Wow. I'm going to tell them. Yeah, I know. But I guess there was less people on the road that I could have had an accident with.

Yeah, right. I mean, it's great. I drove to work swerving through all four lanes. I'm just like, well, I mean, as a taxpayer, we work swerving through all four lanes I'm just like well I mean as a taxpayer we built this road and we built this city on rock and roll and I drove

like let's not actually forget that people were like oh well it's level four lockdown I'll drive 140k yeah I was gonna say you joke

but some people drove like freaking maniacs I set a new record for how long I drove with my eyes shut you're joking. 42 seconds. Good.

I don't know how fast it's going because I have my eyes shut. You couldn't have done that without rumble lines. Thanks, government. You get a dit-dit-dit when you're going across the lanes and then you get brrrr when you get too close to the concrete barrier. That's when it's time to wake up. Yeah. So 51 days of Level three and four lockdown.

And yeah, the premiums were 45% reduction. So that means I get $86 back. Well, I think actually that happened with my health insurance. Like, that's not how it should have worked. Because did they see how much banana bread everybody was making? The calories were on the up. The drinking was on the up. You went for a walk, but

let's face it, it wasn't exactly intense cardio. No. But yeah, I think they said, oh, well, because less people are going into hospital or we're not doing operations for a month or so, like, your next premium will be deducted a certain amount. Where are you getting these letters? Email.

Oh, I might just delete those. I see them and I'm like, boring. You're like, insurance, boring. Also, I was wondering, because I used to go away a little bit, travel. I got a, instead of getting a travel insurance policy. That is downplaying also how literally you'd be like, we've got four days off. The show would finish, you'd be like, see you, bitches. And you'd be gone and you'd arrive back at work five minutes before the show started.

Yes, I think one morning I actually came into the studio at quarter past six from South America. That's right, there was a delay. That won't happen again because that airline's gone out of business. You're right, actually, it won't, no. But no, so I got a travel insurance policy for a whole year because it worked

out cheaper than getting one for two weeks, one for a week. For every time that you go away. Yeah. But I don't use that. Can I get my money back? That'll be a really interesting thing because, yeah. What's the deal with that? Or can I at least put it on hold until we can travel again?

Because it's not your fault that you can't travel. Well, there was lots of things like that that if you couldn't use, it just went on hold. Yeah. I don't know if it was the case, but gym memberships. That went on hold? That went on hold because you literally couldn't use it.. I don't know if it was the case, but gym memberships. That went on hold? That went on hold because you literally couldn't use it. So I don't think they can charge you for it.

Whereas they can happily charge you for it when you won't use it. But if you can't use it, they can't charge you. But that's also on you, that bit. Yeah. When you won't use it. Yeah, yeah. That's your fault. Yes, yes, yes, I know.

That's why. That's why. ZM's Fletch,-Megan, the podcast. The NBA looks to be the, oh, I dare not say the first major sporting, I'll say American. Yep. Because we've had super rugby kind of continue here with the New Zealand teams, right?

Have they been playing golf, though, in America? I was going to say major sports. Not major walk around on somebody's well-manicured lawn with a stick and a ball. I don't know. Have they been playing golf? You kind of forget, though, because, you know, we've had like huge sellout crowds and huge crowds watching super rugby. Yeah.

You just forget that the rest of the world's still in this pandemic at times. Well, they've said that the NBA is going to kind of kick off again. Now, the idea is they've got to have been in this bubble for a certain amount of time. I've read that some NBA players are like anti-vaxxers and non-mask wearers and everybody's just like, Dude, we want to make our money. Yeah. We want to play the game we love. Wear a mask. Wear the goddamn mask. It's like wearing pants in public. Yeah. We want to play the game we love. Wear a mask. Wear the goddamn mask.

It's like wearing pants in public. Yeah. You just do it. So from a week today, it's kind of planned of when it's going to be kicking off, around about a week. So for the first two weeks,

they're going to be having some seeding games and then there's going to be tournaments and then the NBA finals are going to be happening between September 30 and October 13. So a compressed season. Right. But they all stay at Disney World.

Living at the Disney World Resort. Wow. And there won't be crowds. Yep. There'll be bare minimum. There'll be the players, the staff. Just like it has been with the NRL in Australia, I guess. Yeah.

Going for the no crowd buzz. Do you think they'll do cardboard cutouts? No, I think we've learned our lesson that you can't do that. Because people sending in cardboard cutouts, yes, they certainly do. But some NBA players have been going on there, because they've got massive social followings, they've been going on their socials saying that it feels like they're in a bit of a prison. And fair enough, missing their families, which I can understand. But some people

saying that they feel cooped up. Granted, they're like 7'7 and they're in a standard sized room, so they may. Compared to their sprawling mansions at home. But there's been some bitching, there's been some whinging. Kiwi, Stephen Adams has set the record straight on how

they should buck up their ideas. Let's be clear, mate. This is not Syria, mate. You know what I mean? It's not that hard. It's not that difficult, mate. We're living in a bloody resort. Everyone's got to complain. Everyone has their own preferences, mate, but it's not anything too serious.

It's just a bit of dry food here and there and get bored every now and then, but it's all good, man. It's just a bit of dry food here and there and get bored every now and then. It's all good, man. It's all good, man. It's all good. You're not in Syria. Yeah. We're living in a resort.

Bit of dry food. It's all good, man. Yeah. Wow. I feel that's just a Kiwi attitude really, isn't it? Yeah. And you know he's walking around that Disney resort in bare feet. Yeah.

Because you know it's warm enough for it and you know he just does not want to be wearing shoes unless he absolutely has to be. Yeah. Slapping around with them big... What size feet has he got? Massive.

Are they 16s? Oh, good Lord. How tall is he? Oh, I met him... Remember that woman in Wellington? 18. Size 18 feet. 18.

Jesus. Where did I come up to on him? Like his waist? It was... I stood beside him and I was him, remember that woman in Wellington? 18. Size 18 feet. 18. Jesus. Where did I come up to on him? Like his waist? I stood beside him and I was like, oh, dude could crush me. I could hide under his armpit easy. He's 6'2 and I don't think I touched his shoulder. Yeah, he's 2.13 metres. Wow.

Earns 22.47 million US dollars. That was in 2017. That was his contract. That was his multi-year contract that he signed. Wow. You could fold him in half and he would be one of you. Would probably be similar height. Mmm. Aw. Was that supposed to sound hot?

No. What? Okay. I didn't find it hot, but I thought you said it in a sort of provocative way. You did. You were just kind of like, you could fold them in half. Fold them in half. Oh, no.

And they'd be the same as me. I was like, I'm not sure how that's sexy. No. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. What would Ray Ray say? Ray Ray is my mum.

And she joins us on the phone to answer your questions about life, relationships, whatever. She's given it to me my whole life and now she can give it to you. You've turned out just fine, haven't you? Yes. Yeah. I feel like that was sarcastic. Good morning, Mum. Good morning.

Good morning. Okay. Good morning. Three questions for you today. First one, the best way to get over a breakup? Well, I don't know. I've never had that, but I've seen the fallout. Yeah, well...

Because you and Dad are like childhood sweethearts. I know. Isn't it sickening? I was going to say sweet and loving. No, you weren't. I think the biggest thing of all is avoid Facebook because people take sides. If you're angry, well, I I think the biggest thing of all is avoid Facebook because people take sides. Yes.

If you're angry, well, I think probably you could sign up for a boxing class and vent your anger there. Okay, yeah, good idea. Rearrange the house or the room. Do some sort of therapeutic decorating. Get rid of all the, well, you see, I don't quite know who left the break up, but you could take a holiday and the best thing of all is eat Chinese in bed. Okay. Is that what you do when you're feeling vulnerable?

Eat Chinese in bed? Oh no, I just go out in the garden and beat shit out of the garden. Right, but sweet and sour pork is an option. Yes, definitely. You can't get past good Chinese, can you? Well, you know, next time you're up, we should go to Yum Cha. Yeah, well, I did call in to see you, but you weren't there.

I was at Yum Cha. You're not going to be there. You need to tell me. Okay, yeah, we'll do Yum Cha next time you're up. Yeah. Oh, good, good. Okay. Next question.

Is it a bad idea to date someone you work with? Well, if it's the boss. No, that's frowned upon. If it's the boss and he's good looking, he's got lots of money, we'll go for it. I mean, when the shit hits the fan, you might end up with his job. Yeah, true. Or at least a pay end up with his job. Yeah, true. Or at least a pay rise. Yeah, well, true.

Yeah, well, one of you is going to go. Or her job. This might be a male employee. Yeah, true. I mean, one of them's going to, it's going to end in, sort of it's going to end a sticky end, really. Probably not a good option, but I mean, if it's, yeah. If it's love though, if it's love, right? True.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. You can't get by without a good smooch. That's good advice. Okay. Oh, this one's going to be a bit awkward. I just moved back in with my folks and they're all up in my business. How do I set boundaries? Well, that's tough.

But I wouldn't think you'd be in any position to query the boundaries. If you've moved back in with mum and dad, you're obviously big enough to be out in the working world. Tough titties. Suck it up or move out. I mean, mum and dad might be into parties and orgies while you've been gone and you might be creeping their style. Wow.

Yeah, I hardly think you're in any position to. This is insightful. Yeah. Isn't it? Yeah. But it's their house, isn't it? Their rules. You can't go on expecting just to.

Well, it was all right when you were in the nest, but you've moved out and now you've come back. You've got to sort of think to yourself, well, I mean, you can say to them, well, I'm not going to, if they're going to start being a bit nosy, well, you can say, well, you know, I don't want to talk about that. But you've got to be pretty careful because, I mean, you've moved back. Yeah, their rules.

That's why every time I go back to mum and dad's, I've always got to squeegee the shower when I get out of it so the glass doesn't get stained. That's their rule, isn't it? Yeah. It's their rules. That's why every time I go back to mum and dad's always got to squeegee the shower when I get out of it. Because the glass doesn't get stained. That's their rule, isn't it? Yeah, it's true. Their rules. Yeah, water stakes. So, yeah, it's a bit awkward, but you've got to kind of think, well, how long have you been gone?

They might have sort of, they probably don't really want you there. Yeah, are you hearing this, Megan? You're cramping their style. This is very directive. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's all right. Megan won't be coming down now.

I'm going up there, you see. I've got my own bedroom. Yeah, I can't get rid of her. Yeah. We'll be talking about boundaries when I get back. Yeah. I might be camped on Vaughan's front lawn. Bring a tent.

Pacing the horse. Well, yum cha. Yeah. Oh, thank you very much, Mum. I've got a great insight. Insightful as always, Ray Ray. Thank you. Okay. Nice you very much, Mum. I've got a great insight. Insightful as always, Ray Ray. Thank you. Okay. Nice talking. Bye for now.

ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The Podcast. A study has said that 40,000 New Zealanders have been on their restricted or learner's licence for 10 years or longer. Wow. So they get the licence and then they just sit. Once you can start driving, I mean with restrictions, but you can Longer. Wow. So they get the licence and then they just sit. Like who?

Once you can start driving, I mean with restrictions, but you can drive, so they're just like, cool. I mean, who would do that? We turn now to our senior correspondent for sitting on a restricted licence. Yep, for six years. For six years. Well, it's not a decade. You know what?

That's not a decade. There's people who have been on it for longer. Oh, my God. Have you ever driven to work? No. You get dropped off, right? I saw you get picked up the other day, and I was like... You actually couldn't, because what is...

Because it would be before. You can't get exemptions to your restricted licence. Like, if you need to drive outside of the hours for work... But is it 6am? Yeah, 6 of 10, right? So you couldn't actually drive to work? I don't even know. You could get an exemption.

Yeah, if you say that you need to be there early for work. I mean, I probably should just get my full. So 5am and 10pm. So you probably could drive to work at 5am. Yeah. What is it? That's why I don't drive to work till 5am. Because you're on your full. Just to be safe. Yeah, just to be safe. You don't drive to work till 5am. Because you're on your full.

Just to be safe. Yeah, just to be safe. You don't want to run into any other restricted lunar licence drivers. I want the road to be full of them. What is it that's stopping you? I just don't want to fail. I don't love driving anyway. Because we drove the other day and you said you drive, Fletch,

because I don't like driving. I don't like driving and I legally cannot drove the other day and you said you drive Fletch because I don't like driving I don't like driving and I legally cannot drive the company cars oh yeah that's true that's true

and rental cars would be all sorts of yeah times you couldn't drive yeah but I'm just scared to take it and it's what

like 80 bucks to set the test is it I don't know the anticipation of it because you've left it six years

is so much greater than the the reality of it I think I know because because you've left it six years, is so much greater than the reality of it, I think. I know. Because now you've built it up to be this mega thing. Are you a bit of an anxious person? Do you get a bit of anxiety? Do you even need to ask that? I was just doing it out of politeness.

Your ears get hot, remember, whenever something bad happens. You start overheating. I am an anxious driver and an anxious human. So do you think putting it off, it's because there's the anxiety about it so it's easier to just because I guess that's like one of

the hallmarks of being anxious about something right is you just don't deal with it. But this is what I said to Mountie the other day when we were driving over the bridge. I said we were talking about the test and I said go to Thames or some little pokey town somewhere in the middle of nowhere where they we were talking about the test, and I said, go to Thames or some little pokey town somewhere in the middle of nowhere

where they do a driver's licence test. There's no traffic lights. There's probably not even a hill to do a hill start. You've just got to remember when it goes from 50km to 100km. Yeah, exactly. Because when I lived in Nelson, that's a small city, but we used to still joke about going to Blenheim. Lots of people used to go to Blenheim to sit there.

I would have gone to Nelson. Nelson, you've got hill starts, you've got traffic lights, you've got roundabouts, you've got parallel parking. But then you don't know the roads, and what if they try to trick you? Yeah, because that happened to my friend. The tester said, I'll turn left down this road, and it was a one-way.

He was like, why'd you turn down there? You told me to. Yeah, he said, you bloody told me to. What is this, entrapment? Yeah. Yeah. The identifying the hazards was my favourite part when I was driving. I think this was for my restricted.

Because you'd go really overly detailed. Oh, overboard. Like I'd say, start naming hazards. I'd be like, trees. Yeah. Can't be trusted. The power pylon. What if it falls over?

Cats are everywhere these days. Probably some rabbits somewhere as well. The bloody council's a hazard. And if you've got some old mate, you know, they're right. Wheelie bins, overgrown grass, something could nip out of the air. Driveways, balls could come from anywhere. But I didn't like getting in a car with a person I didn't know, a stranger. And then I was like, I don't know you.

Like, hi. Well, they've been vetted. No, it's just, and then yet, do you talk to them? And like, what do you say? And like, do I have to do pleasantries? Very professional. Right. Yeah, once I flashed the cleavage at the guy,

and I could tell that wasn't going to do it for him. He was professional. I remained very professional. Yeah, God, you had to pass the old-fashioned way. Like doing the test. Oh, no, not like that. Yeah, God, you had to pass the old-fashioned way. Like doing the test. Oh, no, not like that. Oh, no. But so do you think you're going to do this, Mountie, one day?

Because surely it'll make your... I mean, for the listeners to the show, you'll remember that Mountie only literally just got insurance very recently after our peer pressure. Yeah, well, maybe you guys can peer pressure me into taking my full. Because then your insurance will be cheaper. Yeah. Because you're not a restricted driver.

It expires in four years. Oh, yeah, that's a long time. You give me so much anxiety. Your anxiety gives me anxiety. I'm sorry about that. Is there anything else you've been putting off just because you can't be bothered dealing with it? Just life.

I'm like that with admin. If I know I've got admin, I'm always like, oh, God. And you wait till the very last minute. Well, I think there are 40,000 New Zealanders

putting off their restricted or their full licence test. I think we should take calls this morning on those things you're putting off in life that you've been putting off for ages. There's one thing

that's super easy to do is procrastinating. Yeah, I mean, we are, as a country, we're great at procrastinating, aren't we? I mean, 40,000 drivers, that's a lot. So we want you to call now, 0800 dials at M. You can text 9696. What have you been putting off for ages?

I mean, are we going to beat a decade? Because this is 40,000 people that have been putting it off for a decade. And maybe you can even beat that. Maybe you've been putting your license off for longer. You're still driving on your learners. Because then you get exemptions. Like, if you've got kids, if you've got dependents,

that's an exemption to getting your full license. But then you've still got to have insurance and everything like that. But it doesn't need to be driving. Just anything in life. What chores are you then putting off? Yeah. Like you're still meant to fix that gate or... Yeah.

I don't know, put the front... Mow the lawns. Oh, my lawns are a jungle. But it's raining, so come on. I've got a couple of goats I could send around that would sort that lawn out. Okay, well, I think more than just missing a week of mowing the lawns,

we want to know what you've been putting off. Maybe it was telling your workmates something intensely intimate without thinking about it. Well, I haven't been putting that off. 40,000 New Zealanders have been putting off their learners or restricted or full tests. Yeah, for over 10 years. That's 40,000 people over 10 years.

How many people have been doing it for five years? I know. It'd be so many. Heaps more. And there are a lot, because we want to know from you what you have been putting off. There are a lot of people on.

Classic Kiwi procrastination. Yeah. And Emma, you can beat 10 years for the license. Mine is 17 years. So I'm looking at it right now. So I know, honestly. You've had to renew that after 10 years. I know, it's really weird.

Like, I'm looking at it right now, and it says, Learners 2004, Restricted 2005, expires in February 2022. Not joking. Emma, there are people who were born when you first got their licence who now have a full licence. I know. I actually sat my full licence six years ago and I failed.

So now it's freaked you out, right? Yeah, especially when the guy who took the test honestly reminded me of some sort of park ranger. He was really serious and he was honestly, reminded me of some sort of like park ranger. He's really serious. And he's like, tell me the hazards. I love the idea of the most serious person ever is a park ranger.

Oh, my God. They were terrifying. He was like a park ranger. He was terrible. He's like, name the hazards. What's the hazards? I'm like, everyone in my way is a hazard. I think you need to be a bit more specific there, Emma.

Everything's our own. But do you know what you could do is just go out with a driving instructor for like just pay for one hour and do the test because they know where the tests go and then they kind of give you some tips on what you can do better. Honestly, in the time, they've probably written the road code five times now. Yeah. I can think of like 12 roads that didn't exist 17 years ago.

Yeah. That's just nuts. All right. Well, hey, Emma, good luck. Vanessa, you've had your restricted for how many years? I had it for 13. I just got my full last month. Yay!

And was it as hard as you expected? Well, no, because I drive a car for work, we have to sit driving tests every two years, so I was real nervous. And she was driving around with us for about an hour, and she gave me heaps of handy tips and was like, just go sit your full, and. I did and I passed. It was awesome.

Oh. Did they work-initiated driving test that you were still only restricted? Well, I'm a mobile mortgage manager, so I have to drive for my job. And you have to sit test to make sure you can drive. Apart from late at night or early in the morning. No mortgages.

Yes, that's fine. Brilliant. All right, Vanessa, thanks for your call. Jess, what have you been putting off forever? It wasn't as bad as the 17-year one, but I've been doing a train your own horse course online, and it's like a training to practical situation. Okay.

So I went and did my practical part, like first off, first time training my own horse, and he didn't do what I asked him to do, so I gave up and I haven't been doing it since. Wow. I think one thing with training something is maybe persistence. Well, yes. Instead of having that mindset of, hey, I need to keep going, because he's a bit of a butthead anyway.

Right. Okay. So instead of like persistence, especially because horses are very, very special in the way of the, you know, how they need to be trained. Yeah, right.

So instead of that sort of, oh, I need to keep going and like keep training and, you know, the persistence, I just went, nah, can't do it.

Right. Hey, Jess, side note, we've got a whole lot of these Grab One 10th birthday blitz vouchers to give away.

Going to give you a $100 voucher to spend at grabone.co.nz. So I don't know if you can get horse training on there. I don't think so, but you might be able to get a horse brush or something. I'll have a look. A horse something. A horse something. Also, when you buy something from their special birthday collection, you earn Grab One credit on your purchases as well.

All right. So wait there, Alex, what have you been putting off forever? Yeah, it was my restricted license. Like I got it when I was 15. Yeah. And I pretty much sat on my restricted license until I was 25. Yeah. And then I went and done my full once and failed.

And then I just thought, oh, bugger it. I'm going to Australia. I got to Australia and I didn't even have to do any tests or nothing. I just got my full license handed to me. Because if you're over 25 and you're held license restricted for five years, you can just get your license straight away. No tests, no nothing. So, Producer Mountie, you could just go to, when the border opens up,

go to Australia. Yeah, no holiday. Which would cost you $400 return. return yeah it's worth it right but you don't have to do the test sounds great you're taking your id and your license with you and and that they can see if you've held it for five years and you're over 25 boom that sounds easier than getting a uh raritongan motorbike license i I'm not over 25 though. Oh. Hey, well, not wrong. You know what?

You can't go to Australia right now anyway. Yeah. Brilliant. Alex, thanks. You called some text messages. My family, when we moved here, put in all the work and got most of my family residencies, my brother included.

30 years later, I still don't have mine. But I blame them for that procrastination rather than me. Yeah. That's kind of something you probably want to take care of now

because if you leave, you're not going to be able to come back, right? Yeah. Yeah. I kicked a hole in my parents' toilet door when my seven-year-old brother

locked himself in there to get out of help helping me do the dishes. I'm 47 now. My brother is 40 and mum and dad fixed that toilet door two weeks

ago. After 33 years of explaining why there was a hole in the toilet door. Oh my God, that's insane. Finally fixed the door. Other people who have been putting things off for a long time, somebody said my washing machine's broken. It broke at Christmas last year. I just can't be bothered getting somebody out to service it because chances are they're just going to tell me I need a new one anyway. So I've just been going to my mum's to wash my clothes a couple of times a week. That would be such a punish. But then does mum do all the folding and washing and hanging and stuff?

Yeah, you say go to mum's, but does mum do it? Yeah. I've been filling out the insurance forms for my pets. Oh, you've got to do that. Yeah. I've been putting off, filling out the insurance forms for my pets. Oh, you've got to do that. Yeah. Because there's also a little, is there a two week or month stand down period? Yeah.

Yeah. In case you know that your dog's sick and then you sign it up for the insurance to try to get around it. That saved me money in the past, pet insurance. It definitely does. My family put off my granddad's funeral

for like three to four years. Can you do that? Where was grandad hanging out? Might have been like cremated. Might have done the pre funeral cremation. I've been putting off getting my tetanus boasted for five years. I'm terrified of needles but I'm a vet nurse so it's kind of a necessity to have a jab for my job.

Each next time you're giving a dog a jab just give yourself one as well. I mean different needle. Different needle. Yeah, yeah. Not the same needle. Yeah, obviously.

Sure. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Coming up on the show, there's actually an update on the fact of the day that we did on Monday regarding the Wikipedia guy. Do you remember the Wikipedia guy? Yeah. Yeah. Anytime it said comprises of

he would correct it and he's gone through correcting all of those instances on Wikipedia. An update. An update on that. We set a trap. And we caught him. Well, don't give it away. How did we catch him though? Oh my God, you just gave it away.

You said we set a trap. That pretty much gave it away. Just stop talking. Maybe you don't give it away. How did we catch him though? Well, obviously, oh my God, you just gave it away. You said we said a trap. That pretty much gave it away. Just stop talking. Maybe you don't know what would have happened with the trap. It's time for. We wouldn't be talking about it if it was an unsuccessful trap. Stop. You're giving it all away.

Putting the whole picture together. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Octopuses. Octopi? Nope. It's octopuses. We've talked about this. Octopuses.

It's octopuses. Octopuses. I beg your pardon, young lady. Excuse me, Megan. Not in this house. Megan. Megan. Megan. What's wrong with that? Octopuses.

Have you had multiple pussycats? Yay, yeah. Yeah, no, Megan's right. If there were multiple pussycats, you'd say multiple. If you had eight. If you had eight pussycats. Yeah, you might say that because it's octo. Eight. Oh, you're true.

And that is in the case of octopuses relates to the limbs of the octopus. Yeah. Okay. Now, I'm a big fan of octopuses so much so to the point I've stopped. I don't eat them anymore. Okay. That's weird. I don't even have.

Squid rings. I I mean those are squid in fact when because I don't know why but in my house about every month we do our favourite animal ranking

and it can it can change sloth is always up there for me yeah I'll give you my I got sloth and I got dolphin

now those are always what's that one with the shell that you like with the armoured shell oh the pangolin shell? Oh, the pangolin. Yeah. Huge fan of the pangolin. Got a bit of bad rap

at the start of this COVID-19 thing. Yeah. But have you seen them? Pretty cool. And they walk on their back two legs with their front two arms just ready to do something. Yeah.

And then they can curl up and they're in a ball. Amazing creatures. But the octopus might be getting a permanent place in the top five, I think. Just because they're so fascinating. And today's fact of the day is about octopuses. Octopuses might be getting a permanent place in the top five, I think, just because they're so fascinating. And today's fact of the day is about octopuses.

Octopuses are antisocial. They live by themselves. Well, that's right up your alley. Yeah. Except when they're mating, like me. They come out for some action. They're like, okay. And scientists have to house them separately

so they don't kill each other or eat each other. Do you remember the famous octopus versus shark in the aquarium video? Fantastic. Yeah. The sharks were disappearing and they couldn't figure out where and the octopus was killing them.

Like these were sharks and the octopus, so smart. They can fit through tiny holes. One of them predicted the World Cup that time. Don't tell me that was a fluke. They looked at all the statistics available and made a decision. When they fully mapped out the DNA of octopus eye, they compared it to humans. Yeah.

Because that's us. We're a creature that wants to know what we've got in common with things. And they said, huh, interesting. We share a protein that wants to know what we've got in common with things. And they said, huh, interesting. We share a protein that activates serotonin in the brain and links serotonin to the brain. I wonder if their serotonin reacts the same as ours does. Serotonin, the happy drug. Yeah.

The happy chemical in our brain makes us happy. Now, MDMA is a drug that increases serotonin, and then on Tuesday you've got none. Squeezes all your serotonin out. Yeah, and then juices the serotonin, and then you're a little bit wrung out come Tuesday. Monday you might be thinking, am I going to skip it this time?

And then Tuesday, I mean, this is what I'm told. You can spot those people in the office. They do a lot of vending machine snacks on Tuesday. The Tuesday blues. Yep. So they said, I wonder what would happen if we gave the octopus MDMA. Oh, they're drugging the octopuses. So they were like, all right, how do we get the octopus to take the MDMA?

In the toilet? At the nightclub? Play some dance music? At a club in a tent? Who knows? So what they did is they made a liquid MDMA and put it in the water so they absorbed it. Oh, God.

Now, they did a high dosage at first and the octopus retreated into the corner, its pupils dilated and it freaked out. Oh, buddy. And it just looked around and it was like, it used apparently its tentacles to push itself into the corner and was like. Was it like feeling the tank?

Maybe like running its hand on the glass, but like. It's so smooth. So then they were like, okay, we've given it too much. It ended in a state that indicated hypervigilance. Okay. And it sat in this tank. Its eyes went wide and its pupils dilated and it freaked out. So they did it on a lower dose sometime later.

And it went over to the octopus in the next tank and was like rubbing the glass. Being like, buddy. I love you. So they took the octopus out of that other tank, put it in a cage and put it within the same tank and the octopus cuddled the whole tank. Oh my God.

That is so cute. Purple's dilated. Did it tell the octopus it loved it? Probably. And it wrapped around the cage, all of its things. And they said it was relaxed and it was cuddly and it was loving. And it did things like, if they'd done this previously with no MDMA added,

the octopus would have attacked the cage and been like, enemy, threat, must kill, must eat. And the octopus inside would have acted the same. So, Do you think in the morning

that octopus said, you told me you loved me last night. And that other octopus was like, don't look at me. No. So they check on the octopus on Tuesday? I don't want to talk about it. Let's just go and get a foot-long meatball sub. God, Tuesday's going to be a tough day at the office for this octopus.

So today's fact of the day is through some testing, octopuses get strangely cuddly and affectionate towards other octopuses when on NDMA. Fact of the day, day, day just a quick update. On Monday, I said for Fact of the Day, there's a guy who's made 47,000 edits or thereabouts to Wikipedia and all of his edits have been of the same thing. It's the use of the, I guess you call it a phrase, because it's two words combined together, comprised of.

Which is not right, is it? No, because comprised of, as a word, already means composed of. Yeah, right. Is what comprised means. So it's like saying pin number. Or maybe that could be our Wikipedia edit. Anytime someone says pin number, because the N in number, N pin saying pin number. Or maybe that could be our Wikipedia edit. Anytime someone says pin number, because the N in number,

N pin stands for number. Oh, okay. Personal identification number. Yeah, but who's got the time? I don't care that much. You said he set up a program, didn't he? He wrote code for a program, yeah, that scans Wikipedia to find it in any usage,

apart from in speech marks, because there's articles that explain why comprised of or comprises of isn't it imagine being that upset with a phrase or something that you went out of your way every week to change the world found more about him i found a podcast where they interviewed him okay and uh he said he knows he can't change the whole world, but he just wants to know that he changed it in one specific part. Did he say how many, because he does it one day a week, how many updates he would generally do in a week? Well, he said at the start there were thousands and thousands and thousands.

But he's made a deal to that. Because he joined, no, he's done it. He's at zero. Oh, wow. And now week to week he's just dealing with the ones that are new articles that haven't added. So Soundkeeper Gary said he wanted to set a trap.

And he changed the ZM Wikipedia to say the ZM Breakfast Show is no, comprises of Carl Fletcher, Vaughan Smith and Megan Sellers. I mean, you didn't change my name in it, but.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's right. You've been married for ages now. Almost three years, but I just. But at the time. At the time. When the show started, no, you were still your old one. Doesn't it say is comprised of?

Is comprised of. Yeah, currently. Yeah, you're right. That's a present tense situation. Okay. Well, that, I've got the edit history. Yeah. That edit was made on the 19th of July

at 22.24. Okay. On the 20th of July at 02.34, so four hours and ten minutes later, Giraffe Data changed it. Wow. He changed it to the ZM Breakfast Show consists of Carl Fletcher, John Smith, and Megan Smith. It took three hours, four hours.

Because he says he does it on a Sunday night. Right. So it was probably his Sunday night. What a hobby, eh? You'd almost get excited if one popped up though, wouldn't you? Because if you got zero, you're like, if you got like something popped up, you'd be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is my time.

Yeah, one, two, done. I can go to bed now. But yeah, if you log on, it was like no changes to make. Wouldn't you almost feel like it's the job done for another week. The world is a good place. But you know next week there might be another one. Yeah. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.

I've got a question, actually. I'm coaching my daughter's hockey team. I've been to my two how to coach kids sports. Right. So you're qualified now. That was, yeah, I'm fully qualified. I mean, there, kid. And you know what I heard on the news?

The Black Sticks might be looking for a new coach. So I'm probably going to put my hand up for that. That's from going from the paddling pool to the deep end of the diving pool. That's also quite an insult to all those professional sports people. Why? Because you were like, I'll coach them.

I'll coach them. I'll coach them. But sometimes they just need a bit of encouragement, you know? Right. Again, that's very insulting to them. Nice words. Oranges. Yeah.

I've got two orange trees. Oh, perfect. So that'd be great. Do the black sticks eat oranges at halftime? I know, I was meaning for you girls to eat. Oh, you know. They'll be right. They'll have oranges aplenty.

Do you have a whistle yet? Do you have a jacket with coach on it? I don't have a jacket but I'm definitely getting one. Okay, good. And it's got to be one of those ones

that goes three quarters of the way down your body. Like the Steve Hansen wears. Yeah, yeah. Where do you get those from? It's like a sleeping bag that pops out. I think Mac Pack have them.

Those are so ugly. I know, they're so ugly. And no one wears them apart from sports coaches. No, there's a woman near my place at all. I always see they're so ugly. And no one wears them apart from sports coaches. No, there's a woman near my place at all. I always see at the cafe wearing her All Blacks coaching jacket. Wow. And I'm just like, does she have a little radio headset on?

Is she coaching at this? No, she's not coaching anyone. But I'm like, it's not even that cold to be wearing that. Can you please get one of those? Yeah, yeah, definitely. I'll have a look into that. Yeah, and I'll get coach put on it. I reckon that would be the jam. No, yeah, definitely. I'll have a look into that. Yeah, and I'll get Coach put on it. I reckon that would be the jam.

No, but on whistles, I got a whistle, just a steel one with a cork P in it. Okay. So the other day, the hockey coaching thing, they've got new whistles, and you don't even put them in your mouth. They've got like a squeezy bellow on the back, and you go, and it blows like little short. That's more hygienic. I know.

Because then everyone can just share the one. That's what they said. It's COVID whistles. Here you go. That it blows like little short. That's more hygienic. I know. Because everyone can just share the one. That's what they said. It's COVID whistles. Here you go. That's a woman's jacket. This is at Katmandu. Yeah, but it will be fine on you. I don't want that.

I mean, my hips would look lovely in that part, but. Yeah. Oh, they've only got size six and eight left. That would go to my shins. Excuse me. Wait a minute. Excuse me. What?

You don't think I could fit an eight? Sweetheart, no. A woman's eight. Excuse me. We? You don't think I could fit an eight? Sweetheart, no. A woman's eight. Excuse me, we're all about to have fisticuffs. How dare you? Okay, let me have a look on other sites. Why did you Google woman's? That's 140. I didn't.

I just Googled long puffer jacket. Oh, no, it doesn't need to be a puffer jacket. I think you just put like a long. No, it has to be. No, because Steve Hansen only wears the puffer, the long puffer. But is it called a puffer? I think Adidas might do them because they sponsor

the All Blacks. Okay. Well, they can sponsor Indy's Hockey Team too if they want. Right, yeah. It'd be great to have them on board. We do have sponsors.

We've got the uniform yesterday. We've got sponsors. Really? We've got like a list of sponsors. Don't worry about it. It's a professional outfit. But anyway, they're COVID whistles.

You squeeze them. And it blows the... What if you need to do like the end of the game? Two. Hup, hup. Oh, my God. No, it's not a honky horn. It's not like what you would only make.

Yeah, but it's a whistle on the front. It sounds exactly like a good sharp whistle, blow of the whistle. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I was thinking the ones with the little trumpet end. Hup, hup. Hup, hup. No, it's not bloody pingu.

Take one of those Kmart dog toy chickens. You know, you just go. You just have to squeeze it at the start of the game. And then let go a little bit. Game on. Yeah, love it. No, there's one of those. My question is.

Yeah. Mouthguards. Okay. Because they need to wear mouthguards. That. My question is mouthguards. Okay. Because they need to wear mouthguards. That's right. Mouthguards. Indy, I bought two mouthguards. Yeah.

The same type. One black, one white. So they'd be like, the black one's Indy's, the white one's August's. Yep. Easy. They can remember. Indy, put it in. Put it in hot water.

Yeah. Mind you, can you remember setting a mouthguard when you were a kid? Yeah. You always boiled the jug, put it in a cup, and put that straight in the boiling water, eh? Yep. 77 degrees. Oh, okay.

Yeah, but they just don't want people getting third-degree burns. How are you supposed to measure 77 degrees? I used the thermometer to get exact, and I was like, and go. God, you're such a nerd. It's close enough. Indy was fine. She put it in. Did that thing where you bite it but not too hard

and then you suck and then you push your cheeks in so it all fits in nicely. And ever since she's like comfortable she'll just, sometimes she'll be like and I'll be like take your mouth guard out. We're watching the chase. You need it out to yell the answers out.

But then August has been freaking out about it and last night we tried to get it all sorted. It was a bit long. So I cut the end. You know how you can trim the ends now? Yeah. And I made it all smooth because I can remember as a kid cutting the ends off and then it just like.

Yeah. So I made it all like smooth and nice. But then when she can't put the mouth gut in without going. And because she's very dramatic, I don't know where she gets it from. Presumably her mother. Every time it goes, she's very dramatic, I don't know where she gets it from. Presumably her mother. Every time it goes, she's like... And I'm like, calm down. It's fine.

It's going to choke me. I'm going to swallow it. I'm like, you aren't going to swallow it. Oh, my God. So every time it goes in, she goes... Is there anyone listening who has had experience with... How old is she? Six.

With mouthguards. Surely, can you get thinner ones? Yeah, you can get real thin ones. Because these ones are like, they feel like, I remember mouthguards being like thick, heavy plastic, but like mouldable. Is it like those jelly ones? It's quite thick jelly like. Yeah, they were quite thick, those ones. What about like MMA fighting or something? You can get really thin

ones that have like holes in them. They look like mesh and then they fold up from flat. That's what I used to have when I played roller derby. Do you get warm and then shape it to your teeth? Yeah. The problem is I think it's just she won't be able to stick her fingers in there. She'll be like. What about if you covered it in chocolate

and then put it in? Yes. And then she'll spend all the time squeezing the chocolate out of it and licking it. Did you used to soak your mouth guard in orange juice so that it tasted nice when you put it in? No. What? It doesn't absorb liquid. No, but it would sit in the liquid. Think about it.

This is why I've got bad teeth. And sometimes what you do is you get a little wee Tupperware container. You know the little Tupperware container mum used to have? Yeah. For like a tiny bit of leftover jelly meat. This tiny and it would come up like a dish. Everybody's mum had this Tupperware container. For like a dollop of jam.

And you'd put the mouth guard in and then you'd wait till mum wasn't looking and you'd pour the thrifty concentrate straight in and seal it for the week. And then when you got to the game, you'd flick it and stick it in, and you'd be like, let's go. Nobody did that. Nobody did that. Me and my brother definitely soaked our mouth guards all week

and flavoured something or the other. The idea came because after we'd finished with it, we'd wash them, and then mum would be like, put it in a little bit of Listerine. Okay. We'll keep it clean. Yeah, right.

And then that was always like, and I was like, you know what, we should put it in a little bit of listerine okay keep it clean yeah right and then that was always like and i was like you know what we should say juice cordial cordial and philip was like wow we don't see eye to eye on much but we can see eye to eye on this it's so cool our mouth guards and cordial and we obviously i'm going to be watching out for that because that's not something that i want my kids to be doing because, hey, teeth. And I was going to say, if you do, if you cover it in chocolate and it works, is that going to be something she needs every time? Every time. Listen to Teller.

Cover it in chocolate again, Dad. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. If you enjoyed this podcast, why not give ZM's free and Clinton to listen to? Subscribe on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. And music lives here. ZM.