ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 24 March 2021
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Hello and welcome to the Fleeche Warner Megan with Hayley Sproul podcast by 5 McCafe Coffees.
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Well, something you're about to hear on the podcast has remedied itself.
This is what I did. I put it out to the universe.
Oh, this is like one of those Quentin Tarantino movies. It's all over the show.
So you're skiving away the end at the start.
Yeah, but there's more to the story.
Like a movie, you know, where the person at the start of the movie is dying
and then it cuts to them living 10 years later.
And you find out how they're dying.
Yes.
And then do they die or not?
Yeah.
So my pocket knife showed up.
Literally, when the show finished at 9, I went to the mail room,
because it said I had some mail, and I did have some mail.
It was predominantly bagel-based mail.
Yeah.
And my pocket knife was there too.
So that took two weeks.
Yeah, because you're trying to go through the
airport security and you're
slightly longer than the average six inch,
aren't you? Yeah, I am. You're a bit longer.
No, no, no. Six centimetres. Six centimetres.
Six and a half centimetres at six and three quarter
centimetres. But where does it, what do they count?
The sharp bit of the blade or the...
Well, she counted the whole blade. But then you're
right. There's not... Oh, there's only that much sharpness.
But I mean, once it's in, you could plunge that in.
Yeah.
Probably up to halfway up the handle.
And also ridiculous that you were allowed that on the small flight.
Yeah.
No one tested on that one.
New Zealand day.
New Zealand.
No one tested on this one, but no.
Knife heavy content lately because I made a knife.
Yeah.
And now that I've made a knife, I can see different parts that we did in the knife making
process that I didn't see before.
Oh, yeah.
Because you can see the little, if you hold it up to the right light, you can see the
little pins that go through and hold the bolster.
Now, this is part of the knife.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, right.
And then also the beveled edge there.
Beautiful.
That part there, that's done manually.
Okay, lovely.
Just gives you a little bit more appreciation for the blade.
Yeah, right.
And maybe check baggage next time for that, please.
Always check baggage for the knife from here on out.
Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM.
Well, a Wellington courier driver has appeared in court because last year,
over a period between June and November,
this courier driver failed to deliver 89 parcels.
Okay.
June, the very start of that, we were still very wary of COVID,
and then there was a lockdown.
Well, not a lockdown, but a level change in there.
We're all over the show.
Yeah, a lot of people doing online purchasing, weren't they?
Yes.
So I'm imagining, and that was a time when couriers were very busy.
Yeah.
So he has admitted to taking 89 parcels for himself.
The total value, just over $8,000.
And he has pleaded guilty in Wellington District Court
to a charge of theft by a person in a special relationship.
Ooh.
Is that like different than theft as a servant?
When he's not stealing from his workplace.
Like when you steal the big reams of A4 paper for your home printer?
Oh, yeah.
From work here, that's theft as a servant.
Oh, no, I have work invoice me for those.
That's deducted from my PAYE.
Why is it when you nick off with a ream of A4 paper,
is that not in a special relationship?
Well, because I'm employed by them.
He's not stealing from his employers.
He's stealing from people.
He's a contractor. That he's delivering to, so it's a special relationship? Because I'm employed by them. He's not stealing from his employers. He's stealing from people.
He's a contractor that he's delivering to.
So it's a special relationship rather than employment
because they're not technically paying directly to him.
Right.
Well, they became suspicious
and police ended up searching his property
and finding a whole lot of stuff,
including two icebreaker jackets.
Well, they'll keep you warm.
But he'd worn those so they couldn't return them
to the people.
But there was stuff like perfume,
a whole lot of different stuff
that he'd nicked.
How do you know what was in there?
Was he giving it a shake?
I mean, after a while
you probably become pretty
clued up with what's in the package,
if you're a courier.
You'd be able to see
where the sender was.
Yeah.
If it was a clothing place,
you'd, I guess, take a risk.
But yeah.
I mean, mean God how long
before you hated your job would you start just
nicking the odd one? I don't hate
my job.
I feel for
New Zealand couriers
because they vet every courier
and also it's hard I guess for couriers
listening because they get tarnished
with this brush as well.
And they all do a fantastic job and don't steal anything.
Yeah.
And right now they're listening through the vans' open doors because they've double parked.
And they've chucked the hazard lights on and they've left their doors wide open just to make themselves an extra metre wider to drive around.
Because, you know, it's only six o'clock in the morning.
There's not a lot of traffic.
I'm just getting some deliveries done.
I would do the absolute same.
I always thought that couriers had to repay.
I've heard stories of couriers had to repay for lost goods and stuff,
which I always thought was unfair.
Oh, I've got no idea.
Did you hear that?
No.
Have you ever heard that?
I've got no idea.
Because what is it insurance if your parcel goes missing?
I guess so.
Is it covered by contents?
Unsure.
Because it wasn't yet in your possession, but I don't know.
This man is expected to appear in Wellington District Court for sentencing on my birthday.
So on June 23, he will be facing up to his crime.
Happy birthday.
And I will be celebrating his possible imprisonment.
Oh, right.
No, you're not celebrating his guilt.
I hope I'll remember on my birthday.
Set a reminder on your phone.
Hey, Siri.
That set off everybody else.
Remind me.
Oh, no.
Does your Siri not listen sometimes?
Not all the time.
I'll do it later.
Okay.
Don't forget, though.
Remind, yeah.
You'll kick yourself.
Also, actually, do you know something else I saw?
Speaking of couriers in the Philippines,
you know how some couriers do a photo of where they drop your parcel?
Yeah.
This has become a thing in the Philippines.
Look, I saw this on 9Gag this morning.
Proof of delivery.
People in the Philippines are taking this to a whole new level,
and they're getting a sexy photo posing with their parcels,
and the courier driver takes it, and then they post it online.
Look at that.
And they do a little, like, little pose.
I saw one of these recently and it was the courier took a photo of the parcel with the dog.
Yeah.
And sent it to the person saying, what kind of dog is this?
Like, so they were confirming delivery, but they also really wanted to know what breed of dog they had.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
Alan DeGeneres.
It was at the end of last year.
Yeah, it all kind of imploded.
Three quarters of the way through last year,
to the end of last year,
there was a big story about how Alan DeGeneres
was in charge of a pretty toxic workplace.
She denied accountability for it at the start.
A couple of the producers left.
Saying she had no idea, but people were like,
well, you're an executive producer of your own show.
You're there every day.
You're on staff.
You know exactly what it is.
You yourself have been.
Like, people weren't even allowed to look at her.
Yeah.
So she, on her first episode back, she kind of addressed it,
kind of chuckled about it, said that it won't happen and blah, blah, blah.
And now that season opener was the highest ratings Ellen had had in four years.
Really?
Okay.
Since though, hemorrhaging.
1.5 million viewers have been lost since this news broke.
That's the thing.
She traded.
Her whole thing was be kind to one another, you know be the nice guy and it turned out that wasn't who
she was so i think people were just like well you're just a big liar like who are you really
it was confusing for people because we all saw the singy dancy
but had heard maybe whispers that she wasn't always easy to deal with. So she's at 1.5 million average viewers now,
meaning that Dr. Phil has lots more than her.
Is he leading the daytime US live with Kelly and Ryan?
Is at 2.7 million regular viewers.
Dr. Phil's at 2.5.
Kelly Clarkson's at 1.3.
No, I won't have a bad word said about Kelly Clarkson.
Oh, no.
Well, people are saying she could replace her in her slot.
She totally could.
Kelly Clarkson already got more viewers than Rachel Ray.
Oh, yeah.
She does a lot of cooking, eh, Rachel Ray?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, man, it's pretty yum.
Yeah, she's good.
Yum.
Maury, he's in there.
He's like the Canadian version of Jerry Springer.
He trades predominantly on DNA tests.
Are they still getting away with that?
Because everyone else
has been cancelled
or dropped off, right?
Yeah.
Like, they don't do
Jeremy Kyle anymore, do they?
Or is that restarted?
I don't know
where Jeremy Kyle's at.
It's British.
Yeah, someone took
their life, right,
didn't they?
Yes.
After an episode.
Yeah, and I didn't know this,
but Jeremy,
Jeremy,
Jerry Springer's
former security guard, Steve, remember when there was always like, Jerry, and that didn't know this, but Jeremy, uh, Jeremy, Jerry Springer's former security guard
Steve, remember when there was always like, Jerry,
and that massive dude would walk in and be like,
sit down. And he'd break up the fights and stuff.
He's got his own talk show. Oh,
yay. I wonder what he's doing on his.
Just breaking up scraps between
people. And so there's, and what about Judge
Judy? But she's later, right? She's a later,
she's a different time slot. She's not a daytime.
And she is still absolutely smoking
it and making bank, baby.
She makes like a million dollars an episode
or something, doesn't she? Yeah, she records them.
That's nuts. Like, she records all of her
year's episodes over like a month or six weeks.
So don't think she's got like a year
round job to make millions and millions of dollars.
She puts in six weeks hard yakka
and then she's just chill accent.
Dream job. Flesh, fauna she's just chill accent. Dream job.
Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
ZM.
Tomorrow at 11.59 p.m., so tomorrow, end of tomorrow, just before midnight,
is when it'll be one year since we went into level four lockdown,
and it's kind of like a hell of a year.
Hell of a year.
A couple of, what, yesterday was the, or the day before was the anniversary
of the actual announcement.
Yes.
Wow.
Okay.
So Dr. Ashley
Bloomfield's been
asked about his
year and he said
he wishes he'd
kept a personal
record of it
because it's all
such a blur.
Things were moving
at pace.
More like a
scrapbook or a
diary.
Diary is less
time than a
scrapbook.
Yeah.
And he would have
a very full scrapbook.
Or the press cuttings. all the press cuttings.
Or cut out all the press cuttings.
Or print it off the stories if they were just an online story.
I know.
How cute is that?
One with a little lock.
Did you have a diary, Georgia?
I feel like you would have had a diary.
I had that one actually throwback.
Got a Snapchat about the other day.
And you put a password in.
And my brothers broke it.
It was electric.
But they wanted to know all of my secrets.
So they actually kind of smashed in the little bit where you have to put your code in. And they my brothers broke it. It was electric but they wanted to know all of my secrets so they actually like
kind of smashed in
the little bit
where you have to put
your code in
and they managed
to break into it.
It's easy to work out
your siblings' codes.
It's their birthday.
Yeah, mine was my birthday.
Why did they need to smash it?
It would have been
easy peasy to work it out.
They probably didn't remember
my birthday,
let's be honest.
My sister had a dinky diary.
Dinky?
They're a little bit older and they had a lock on them.
And then when you unfolded it, it folded right out.
Yeah, right.
So you could have a diary.
You could have phone numbers.
You could have calendar appointments,
and it folded out to four panels.
Was there a specific one for I heart so-and-so?
Oh, there probably would have been some love ones.
There definitely would have been
some lovey ones.
But yeah, you could pick that lock
on this because you folded up
the lock was on the side
with a bobby pin.
Oh, yeah.
You could just get it
and just roll it around
and it would go clink
and then you could read
all of her secrets.
Yeah.
And you did that, didn't you?
Yeah, but it was boring.
She was boring.
It was a boring diary.
It wasn't like super exciting
or anything.
Mine was I couldn't decide
between two boys
in year six.
Really?
And where are they now?
Do you know where
these boys are now?
One of them is still
quite short.
I remember that being
like if not
it was a factor
in my diary.
It was part of your choice.
The other one
I don't know.
I think he was in my
friend group at high school
but that was it
but definitely
definitely not someone I ever considered past year six.
Right.
Mine was, I found a diary when I was cleaning up my parents' place
because I always got them for Christmas but kept it for like two days.
You started in Jan A.
I had a great day.
We went to the Hydra Slide.
Yeah.
And then that was it for the whole year.
Mine was like, played Ninja Turtles on the arcade machine.
Last entry for the year.
Yeah.
ZM's Fletch Warner Megan,
the podcast.
From the first class ZM think tank,
this is the top six.
Hello there.
Well,
Hilary Barry and her sexy shoulders,
the rotator cuff,
this bit. What's this bit called? The neck shoulders. The rotator cuff. This bit.
What's this bit called?
The neck shoulders.
Ah, you know,
the dudes,
sometimes the dudes
overdo this
and it looks like
they've got no neck.
Oh, yeah.
What's this muscle called?
Traps?
Traps.
Are they your traps?
Are they your traps?
Trapezoids?
Trapezee?
I don't know.
Trapezeniums?
She's got the whole situation
and every now and then
she likes to show it off
and damn it, why shouldn't she?
Those are your traps.
Your traps.
Yeah, they are.
Well, that's a trap trap.
Because every time she shows them, people get upset.
The latest dress, you may have seen Brie and Clint wore it yesterday.
I wouldn't even call it at all revealing.
No.
At all.
What is wrong with people?
The way this reaction was, it was like she had her nungs out.
I know. Is this
appropriate to wear when presenting the
thing at seven? Jeremy's in a
suit. Yeah. So maybe it's just a
comparative thing, but don't tell
her what she can and cannot wear.
How dare you? It amazes me. I love that she
trolls people. Well, I've got the top
six body parts Hilary Barry can show to really
rile up the conservatives for today's
top six. Number six on the list
armpits.
And don't shave them.
Double whammy.
That'll really get them going.
She has to wear a sort of a
singlety number, but often during the
show she could be scratching the back of her head,
lifting it up so people see that
little pit of shame.
Put it away, Hillary Barry, they'll be saying.
We don't need to see our high sweats on.
Your haven pits.
Yeah.
That's for God to see on your day of judgment.
Not my children to see.
All right, show me your pits.
At 7pm
Number 5 on the list of the top 6 body parts
Hilary Barry can show
To really rile up the conservatives
The nape of the neck
Oh
That's good stuff
Let's have a nape cam maybe
She'll have to turn right round
She might have the microphone pack back there
But I'm sure they could jimmy something up for a while.
Yeah.
And she just, maybe rather than sitting on the usual couch,
she sits on a spinning office chair and she just spins around
and they get a close-up on the nape of her neck.
Good.
You know, where the hairline meets the neck.
Yeah.
The nape.
And people will say to her, yuck, put that away, woman.
You are arousing my husband.
I assume that's why people complain.
So they're uncontrollably aroused
by shoulders and armpits and napes of necks.
Number four on the list of the top six body parts
Hilary Barry can show to really roll up the conservatives.
The back of the knee.
Yeah.
Oh, it's a soft little foldy bit back there.
And you might see where that tendon joins the back of the knee.
And if she, like, tenses.
Oh, the folds.
That'll get people calling in.
That'll get people rightly rolled up.
Number three on the list of the top six body parts
Hilary Barry can show to really roll up the conservatives,
behind the ear.
Oh, yeah.
Let us have a look behind your ear.
One of them's got her earpiece in, so it can't be that ear.
It'll have to be the other ear.
The other one.
Let's have a look behind the ear.
What if it erupts in the zone behind the ear?
Is it?
Well, the whole ear itself can be if you know what you're doing.
Okay.
In my experience. And you sound like you know what you're doing. Okay. In my experience.
And you sound like you know what you're doing there. I know my way around
an ear hole. Okay, good.
That'll really get the conservatives going.
Hilary's showing her
the dark side of her ear.
Yeah, good. Behind the ear flap
and my husband's out of control.
How dare she?
Number two on the list of the top
sex body parts. Hilary Barry can show to really roll up the conservatives.
The ankles.
Oh, yeah.
Or as they called it in the 1920s, foot cleavage.
Foot cleavage.
Shots you.
Shots you.
Foot bumps.
That bumpy ankle.
Yeah.
If I use my 1920s imagination, it almost looks like a boobie.
You know how I get when I see an ankle?
I know, yeah.
Put it
away, Hilary.
And number one on the list of the top six body parts Hilary can
show to really roll up the conservatives.
The tongue. Just a
fat shot of her tongue.
She's zooming on the mouth and she
pokes at her tongue.
Doesn't wiggle it round.
No movement. That would be far too much
for 7pm. But they're
right in in their droves.
I saw that woman's tongue
and it was disgusting.
How dare she show her
speaky mouth organ.
That is today's
top six.
Channel 4 in the UK.
This is the channel that has previously made television shows like Naked Attraction.
Yep.
Which was where the screen slowly goes up and you get to see who you date based on their naked body.
Yep.
Then you've got to show them your naked body.
There was also the Great British Bake Off.
Okay.
Taskmaster, Gogglebox, Escape to the Chateau,
which is a lot of reality shows.
Reality shows kind of grand designs.
It's a real mix. You go from wholesome like the Bake Off and grand designs
to naked attraction.
The Great Pottery Throwdown, which I've heard great things about.
It's basically the baking show, but with pottery instead of baking.
And it's a sin, actually.
That was a channel four production.
That was a great show, if you haven't seen that.
Skins, they do some great shows.
Oh, they did Skins, they did, yeah.
So their latest TV show, though, is Raising Eyebrows.
It's called Strangers Making Babies.
And it's a dating show where dating
and relationships traditional relationships aren't the end goal the end goal is that two strangers
can co-parent it's uh focusing on a large portion of society who want babies yeah i realize that
maybe their life is um has passed them not passed them, you know, it's got a way on them.
They have not found the one that they'd like to settle down with.
So rather than looking for someone that they want to be romantically involved with
and have your traditional, what do they call it, like a nuclear family?
Yeah.
You know, married, two kids, live in the same house.
They want to look at people who might want to co-parent.
And so it's people meeting up where they don't necessarily
talk about their interests.
They talk more about how compatible they would be
to have a baby.
So then you have the baby.
And then if it all goes well, yes, you have the baby,
which I guess leads to fantastic follow-up seasons.
This is going to take a long time to film.
You've got to do the whole matching process.
Yeah. Then the whole
making the baby process.
The waiting nine months.
Having the baby.
Filming the part where you're having the baby.
And then filming their lives.
After they've had the baby. So they
don't end up living together
during the show. Not necessarily, no.
Unless they found an attraction and wanted that.
But otherwise it's two individual people
sharing a baby.
Sharing a child, yeah.
Wow.
Co-parenting.
Okay.
Which is apparently dating websites
specifically with this.
It feels weird calling them dating websites
because it's not dating traditionally.
Because they're matching.
Apps doing this.
There's one with a 70,000 member base of people
who are looking for someone just to co-parent with.
So do you have to give the other person money like child support?
Well, no, because I think the idea is that you would 50-50 it.
Or you might live in a shared space,
but they can also have a partner eventually if that.
Yeah, right.
Huh.
Okay.
But you wanted kids, but you had't found someone to have kids with.
I don't like it.
You don't like it?
The kid?
You're like, this was a terrible idea, signing up for this reality show.
Yeah, well, I guess that's why you meet the people,
to see whether or not it's genuine.
And I don't know whether or not the baby-making process
is your traditional baby-making, or if it's IVF or it's just your old fashioned situation.
Yeah, you don't need to explain that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I do.
You would use it to season and keep moist a holiday bird.
Yes.
Yeah.
No, that's actually legit.
Yeah.
I thought it was a joke.
I'll say it. A turkey baster. A turkey baster, yeah. They use a turkey baster. I thought it was a joke I'll say a turkey baster
They use a turkey baster
I thought it was a joke
And then we met someone and that's how they did it
I thought this was a joke
They said no it's the perfect implement
I was like unbelievable
I know
Actually just a standard
Pop down a Stevens or Briscoe
It feels like this is a bit
Black Mirror-esque, this kind of reality show.
Like, this is actual human beings being born.
But it doesn't mean the parents are going to be any less loving towards the kids.
Yeah, but are they doing this for fame reasons,
or are they doing it because they want a baby reasons?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, that's true.
When you add in the whole TV fame thing,
that can change.
That's the other thing.
How many of these people going on the show
are actually going to see it through to the end?
You know, you might not meet the person you want.
They got set up by relationship experts,
but so did people on Married at First Sight.
That doesn't work, does it?
Not always, no.
Very interesting.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan.
The podcast.
Vin Diesel.
This is the next Fast and the Furious.
Do we need another one of these?
Jesus, how many have they made?
Look at me like that.
You know I don't like when you get angry about Vin Diesel still making fast and furious movies.
People like them.
They wouldn't make them if they weren't making money.
Was it last time we drove a car out of a skyscraper?
That was like three ago.
What are you talking about?
In Dubai or Abu Dhabi.
That was three ago.
It's so stupid.
You could never do that.
We've had a Hobbs and a Shaw.
I know.
We've had a Fast and Furious 12.
And that's the thing.
People love those movies and they make so much money.
Well, Vin Diesel's 10-year-old son, Vincent Sinclair,
which I believe is Vin Diesel's real name.
Right.
So it says...
He called him the same name Junior.
I think so.
Oh, okay.
He is going to be in the next Fast and the Furious
as a young Dominic Toretto,
which is Vin Diesel's character.
So you can kind of see why he got the gig,
but he doesn't look...
To be honest, I don't know what Vin Diesel looked like as a kid
but did they have an open casting call or was this just
straight up? This is
classic nepotism. Yeah, let's
get my son into Hollywood. What is the
nepotism?
I'm going to give you the exact definition of nepotism.
The practice among those with
power or influence of favouring
relatives or friends,
especially by giving them jobs.
This is classic nepotism.
Right, nepotism.
I want to know the origins of the term nepotism.
It feels like a Napoleon.
Nah. It comes from the Italian word
nepotismo, which is based
on nepos, meaning nephew.
So it comes from nephew.
You just give your nephew a job.
Yeah.
Nepotism.
Yeah, really old Pope did it, apparently.
Because you could say Ivy Blue, who just recently won a Grammy,
like, you could say that's nepotism.
Like, when ever does an eight-year-old have a chance of winning a Grammy?
Yeah.
Like, if mum and dad weren't who they were,
I mean, at the same time, like, if it was your kid,
at power, too, you'd just do it. Oh, what a cundy.
You would do it. Who cares?
You're talking to, you're hearing from
two bitter people who didn't
have any nepotism because they're the
first of their people in the industry.
Exactly, yeah.
Someone had paved the path for me to make
life easier. There was never, I
was never offered a job because of, you know, my
parents having any influence
or they didn't have any jobs to give.
Yeah.
Executive producer Annie,
you've got a story?
Yes, this was when I was 12.
My mum ran an after school
cooking course
for local primary children.
Okay.
And I got the job of cooking tutor,
I believe because of my family ties,
not my chefing experience.
Because mum was running the course.
But did you get paid?
Yes, I did.
Nepotism.
Wow.
But she could also yell at you
and get you to do what she wanted.
It's not in front of our clients, though,
because they were my close friends
and school bullies.
Right.
Wow.
Wow, okay. But I'm very good now at making three dishes, and school bullies. Right. Wow.
Okay.
But I'm very good now at making three dishes, and that is it.
What are the three dishes?
Pasta.
That's not a dish.
And by that, I mean, like, I just know how to, like, boil it in the pot.
Like, I don't make the pasta.
Okay, right.
Teriyaki chicken wraps.
Yep.
And beef hamburgers.
Right.
Did these cooking classes take off?
I mean, if you ask the local school community, yes.
Boil something, replicate a burger, and what was it?
Wrap teriyaki chicken in a wrap.
Excuse me.
I marinade it. Do you marinade the teriyaki chicken?
Yes, which takes at least 10 minutes to throw together.
Right.
Sort of a soy sauce.
I bet there'd be people out there that couldn't cook pasta still.
So you're probably more advanced than me.
I can't.
It's confusing.
Wait ages, eh?
I don't like pasta.
Because sometimes it's still hard.
So there's nothing in it for me.
But yeah, Shaddaa's like, you'll know, just bite it when it's ready.
And I bit it and I burnt myself and I always cook too much, not enough.
So we want to ask this morning, when did somebody get the job because of mummy and daddy?
And I don't know if people are going to ring up and say,
look, I got my job because of mummy and daddy.
It's going to be people like us that are bitter
and despise this kind of behaviour
because we have never experienced it.
But maybe at your work,
somebody got a position because of their parents.
Or you want to admit that, yep, my mum and dad are so-and-so,
and they gave me this job, and I don't care.
It would be brave to admit.
And then do you have to work harder to prove yourself to your new workmates?
That's the other thing, because you often hear of people that are in this situation,
because of their parents, they feel the need.
Because they're judged, they are the need because they're judged.
Yeah, they're judged. It might have been easy to get
the job, but you're being judged more for having
it. So give us a call.
0800DARLS.M, you can text as well.
9696. When did somebody,
maybe you, get the job
because of mummy and daddy?
We're talking about nepotism. I've just had a slice of
mountain
made of caramel slice
and I ate it
and then I didn't
talk again afterwards
and then I went
over my mouth
and I realised
I was saliva heavy.
I had to wash it
down with coffee.
I was having a drink
of cold water
but I don't think
it's done the job
of the hot beverage.
Yeah.
It was good caramel slice
though.
Is 7am too early
for caramel slice?
No.
And who are you
to judge me?
Get off my back.
We want to know
about nepotism
this morning. When did somebody get a job just because of their family connections? No. And who are you to judge me? Get off my back. We want to know about nepotism this morning.
When did somebody get a job just because of their
family connections? Yeah, so
Vin Diesel
Vin Diesel's given his son
10 year old son
the job of playing him in flashbacks
as a kid, which is
I mean. Kind of fair enough.
Do you always wonder when you see movies
and they flashback to like their youth and then the person playing them, you're wonder when you see movies and they flash back to their youth
and then the person playing them, you're like,
there's no way they're going to turn into that person.
Or they have a brother and it doesn't look anything like them
and you're like, why didn't they use their actual brother?
Or if an actor has old family photos of when they were a kid around,
are those actually photos of them as a kid?
I always wonder that.
Me too.
Did they just find a photo of them riding a bike
or did they Photoshop their face as a kid
onto another kid riding a bike?
Yeah.
So we want to know this morning,
when you got the job because of mummy and daddy
or someone you work with
and they just got the job because of, you know,
who they know.
Somebody said,
my mum told me about a job
and now I've been here for four years,
but mum is not mum at work
because that would be a conflict of interest.
So I address her by her name.
So I never say mum.
So no one knows that it's their mum.
They might know, but it's certainly...
Right.
Yeah.
Can you imagine working with your mum
and having to call her Christine?
Christine.
I would like it because my mum doesn't like it
when I call her Christine.
Christine.
I'm like, Christine, what are your thoughts on on and she knows i'm just trying to wind her up
christine can i get the spreadsheets for the march quarter christine i don't mean to nag but i have
asked three times if i could get those by eod that'd be great thanks christine do you reckon
if you're having a bad day at work you just be like man they're being meant to me man did you
eat my yogurt from the work fridge? Ma'am.
Jeremy's called up.
Jeremy, did you get the job because of mummy and daddy?
Morning, team.
No, not because of mummy and daddy.
I got my job because of my uncle in construction.
Well, this is the exact origins of nepotism we've learned this morning.
It's from nephew.
Preferential treatments for nephews.
Well, there you go.
I tried to keep it quiet initially, but
there are three bosses, and one of them
is my uncle's best mate from childhood.
And one of my workmates
was complaining to me hard out about this
boss, about how he's unorganised,
and just throws him in the deep end, etc, etc.
And then he strolls into sight,
the boss, and looks at me,
and I had just shaved my head, so I had no hair.
And he goes, Jeremy, you've got less hair than when you were born.
And my workmate just looked at me with complete shock in his eyes.
He's like, you didn't say anything.
Wow.
What have I done?
Nice, Jeremy.
Thanks, you call.
Some more text messages.
I got my job thanks to my dad.
However, I kept my job
because I'm good at it. Yeah, good.
Okay. Just because your dad thinks you're good at it.
But this is
the problem is you'd have to work so much
harder. Yeah. Because everyone's just
like, oh, you only got that because of your parents.
I know someone whose dad started a company
in a very specific industry
just so his child could run it.
Wow. They gapped it after 12 months. Imagine starting a company. You'd hope the company in a very specific industry just so his child could run it. Wow, okay.
They gapped it after 12 months.
Imagine starting a company.
You'd hope the company was successful regardless.
You'd be like, well, I've got to learn now.
But if the person that you started a company for left after 12 months,
oh, you'd be getting such a telling off.
That is awkward Christmas.
Yeah.
Somebody said, I really wanted to stay away from my parents' industry.
Dad owned a wine company
and I tried so hard
not to be involved.
You wanted to stay away?
Hello?
At a professional level,
but you know,
on a personal level,
you'd be all about dad's company.
Sure.
But I've got a $50,000
student loan for design.
So I just ended up
working in the wine trade.
And a job I got
because of dad.
Yeah, right. But they did grow up thinking I can't working in the wine trade. In a job I got because of dad. Yeah, right.
But they did grow up thinking I can't work in the same industry as my parents.
I got my first job out of uni.
I was so excited that I did it all myself.
None of my friends had jobs yet.
For the first six months, I was Blah Blah's daughter.
Then I realized that I didn't get my own job because of myself.
I got my own job because I got this job because of my connections.
My dreams were crushed. I didn't feel my own job because of myself. I got my own job because I got this job because of my connections. My dreams were crushed.
I didn't feel quite as special anymore.
All three of her siblings worked at a plant nursery that our dad managed
and got paid under the table.
Prime Minister on the phone soon.
We'll be sure to run your number to her so she can pass on the IOD.
Yep.
Then dad got made redundant, so we sued the owner for lack of wages.
Okay, that's complicated.
I don't want to delve into that anymore.
Yeah, let's not drag that up.
All right.
Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM.
Yesterday, Uber added another string to its bow in Auckland first,
but rolling out in coming weeks to Christchurch and Wellington.
And then I'm assuming, as it always does,
rolling out to everywhere else with Uber Eats.
They have added alcohol to Uber Eats.
So you can order from bottle stores.
And I'm guessing order alcohol with your meals if places sell alcohol.
Right.
Like a cheeky glass of red wine.
Yeah. I don't know how they deliver a cheeky glass of red wine. Yeah, just, I don't know
how they deliver a cheeky glass of red, like
maybe in a cup. Yeah, a little
coffee cup. Like bubble tea.
You get your bubble tea and it's got the tinfoil top and you put the
straw through. Imagine if they started delivering red wine
like that. Have your Indian with a little
plastic cup of red wine. Yeah.
The straw would be a dangerous part of that though.
It would. Gone. So
in Auckland you'll be able to order alcohol
from 30 local bottle stores.
Oh, so it's bottle stores and stuff as well as restaurants.
Yeah, totally.
So you can log on to the app.
There's an alcohol category.
And apparently as well, if you want to, you can opt out.
Also opt out of marketing for alcohol
if that's a trigger for you.
Alcohol deliveries will be between 10 and 10.30pm.
It's quite a vicious cycle because you can order alcohol from them
but then get hungry and then need to get back on the app to order food.
Yeah, and then you've had something savoury so you need something sweet
so then you order some pudding and then after pudding what do you have?
An aperitif.
So you're back on the sweet wines.
I know, they've got you on a vicious...
And then you're after a little cheese board.
Oh, that sounds like a delightful night.
But is there a limit?
So there are limits on the amount that you can order under the legal requirements.
You've got to verify your age when you sign up for an Uber Eats account.
And also when they turn up, you'll have to provide ID.
But that's a lot on the Uber Eats driver, isn't it?
To check the ID.
Because the fines for that can be pretty big. So if you're an Uber Eats driver, isn't it? To check the ID, yeah. Because the fines for that can be pretty big, so
if you're an Uber Eats driver,
you're going to have to... What about after they turn up and you're
really, like, boozed already?
That's the thing. They're not allowed to
give you your order if you're visibly
intoxicated, so the delivery person will
be paid to return it to the store, and
you get a refund. Right.
So, I guess it's like when you get home
drunk, and mum and dad are like,
are you drunk?
And you're like, no.
Hi, I'm here with your Uber Eats booze.
Great.
Hello.
Hello, man.
Thank you very much for dropping it off.
Sir, have you had anything to drink?
I have not.
They're not Stanford accusations?
No.
Right.
Yeah.
But I guess it's on them to decide if you're drunk.
Do you remember I got turned away from a bar once
because I'd been in the sun all day and I looked real red.
You looked flushed.
I literally had one drink.
But okay.
I think it was because I was wearing cool white shoes.
I was going to say it might have been your white.
It might have been your etnies.
Oh, etnies.
Back in the day, it was back in the etny days.
You can't.
Did you have little skater jeans as well?
Yep.
And you had one of those long material belts that you pulled tight, clamped shut.
Rainbow coloured.
They were the days, weren't they?
And a wallet on a chain.
That's why I can't do baggy jeans.
Now that they're baggy jeans back home, I'm like, I just can't do it.
It's triggering.
Too triggering.
Because you look back on photos now of when we worked together and had baggy jeans,
and you're just like, what were we thinking?
Comfort, though.
Oh, so comfortable.
Yeah, but...
They're like denim track pants.
Wet puddles.
You've got to watch out for wet puddles, because they seep up the jean.
Yeah.
Your long back.
Wet puddles.
Catastrophic, that is.
Wet jeans, Wet puddles. Catastrophic, that is. Wet jeans, big puddles.
Please tell me you actually wore them where they're supposed to be worn, though.
Not halfway down your back.
Yeah, halfway.
I probably worn.
Oh, you wore them halfway?
I didn't low ride, no.
Oh, thank goodness for that.
That would have been a sight.
Just a warning for baggy jeans wearers now that they're in.
Yeah, we've been there.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
I'm dealing with an issue of the knife variety.
This isn't the knife I made at the weekend.
For our 10th wedding anniversary,
my darling wife got me a pocket knife.
Okay.
And you would often say,
why do you have your pocket knife at work?
Pocket knives are so handy to have on you for cutting things.
I might need to do an emergency tracheotomy, for example.
I've got a sharp knife on me.
I've seen Grey's Anatomy.
You can use a pen.
A pen?
Do a pen.
You'd really have to whack a bick to get it through.
I reckon I could get a bick through.
Imagine having to take a second shot if the bick didn't go through on the first one.
I broke the bick.
But there was that parcel I had, and you opened it with the knife.
Oh, yes.
Because you were like, I've got a knife in my pocket.
A knife and a lighter.
Two very handy things to have on you.
But when we were going to, now I thought I had this in my checked-in luggage,
because I did on the flight from Auckland to Christchurch.
This is when we were a couple of weeks ago when we went to Christchurch. But then from the flight from Christchurch to Hokitika,
it was in my backpack.
Your pocket knife.
Oopsie.
So I had to go back through security and go out to that little shop just outside
and buy a $3.50 bag to send it to myself.
Right.
So I sent it to work.
I put on the front the address and I put on the back. For the return address, I put same to myself. Right. So I send it to work. I put on the front address and I put on the back.
For the return address, I put same as front.
Okay. Because we were short
of time. We were running to get to the plane.
We were, yeah. I could hear you
scoffing, even though you were nowhere
near me. I could hear...
Because I knew you always
having this knife on your person, I knew it was only
a matter of time before it was confiscated
at airport security. So you're allowed a six and a half
centimetre blade. This was six and three quarters.
Oh, just over.
Just over. So I popped it in the post.
I said, not a problem. I posted it to myself
and it still hasn't turned
up. And that was what, two weeks ago?
Yeah, two weeks ago tomorrow.
So it wasn't like
a courier super quick one, but
that's a long time right now
My question is
It may still be sitting on the shelf at that shop
In the Christchurch
Are you sure about that?
Because I filled it out
And the lady, she was so lovely
She could tell us in a hurry
Yeah
And she said, I'll take care of that
And I saw her put it on the bench behind her
Oh no
And then maybe it's got covered with a magazine
Maybe somebody returned a That's Life
You know, and she put it over top of it And it hasn't been sent But it's got covered with a magazine. Maybe somebody returned a that's life, you know,
and she put it over top of it and it hasn't been said, but it's gone.
This is your wedding anniversary.
My 10th wedding anniversary gift.
I know.
What have you told Sade?
So I said to Sade, I said, that knife,
because I told her I had to post it to myself.
I said, it still hasn't showed up.
She was like, oh, Vaughn.
Oh, Vaughn.
That was a gift.
I said, yeah, I know, and I feel terrible about it, but, you know, itughn. Oh, Vaughn. That was a gift. I said, yeah, I know.
And I feel terrible about it.
But, you know, it's not my fault.
And I'm pretty sure we can claim insurance and stuff.
And she said, oh, by the way, because I got her diamond earrings.
Yeah.
She's like, I've lost one of the diamond earrings.
So she put the guilt on me for the knife.
Yet she's lost one of the diamond earrings.
Unbelievable.
So what terrible 10th wedding anniversary gifts.
This is why you don't buy gifts.
Don't get gifts.
Don't get gifts.
You can't lose what you don't have.
No, do an experience, like a hot air balloon or something.
Yeah, because you can't lose that until you get old
and then you start losing your memory.
And then that's life though, isn't it?
Yeah, but by then it's too late, isn't it?
It's done, you've done.
Yeah, just get a couple of photos.
Yep.
Put them on the wall to remind yourself of the hot air balloon ride.
Flesh, fauna, Megan.
The podcast.
ZM.
Well, a secret sound
just around the corner.
Just before that,
got a little business
to take care of.
The Prime Minister joins us.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Any guesses?
Don't guess secret sound
because if you get it right,
that's not good.
Although good for the
government coffers.
Just to put a little
50,000 in there. A quick 50,000 in the government coffers. Because put a little 50,000 in there.
A quick 50,000 in the government coffers.
Because that's what I do at work.
I just sit at the desk and I dial radio stations
to just try and increase the government's revenue.
Yeah, I knew it.
Trying to win free CDs.
Got to be free stuff.
That's right.
I've got to get Chris Hipkins a Christmas present.
Do you guys have any free stuff that he'd be into?
Now, we have asked listeners for questions this morning.
You're on the show.
What are your questions?
Somebody messaged asking if you knew about the Kiwi named after you
that the other ex-prominences are banding together to save.
I heard about this yesterday.
Yes.
Just yesterday I heard there is a Kiwi called Ardern,
and it was released into the wild by John Key and Helen Clark.
And I just cannot think of anything more New Zealand than that.
Yeah, like two former prime ministers standing in the middle of a forest,
letting a Kiwi go.
And you can tell...
Called Ardern.
Yeah, and Helen Clark's got like a well-worn outdoor jacket on that she's obviously done some hikes on.
She's a tramper.
Yeah, she is.
She's a big tramper.
Yeah.
And John looks like he's just grabbed a jacket on the way there.
It's not so much the bush.
Okay.
So pretty big week.
Let's start.
Somebody wants to know if there's anything on the latest MIQ situation.
Oh, right.
Yeah, look, so for those who haven't caught up on this one,
a few days on Monday,
we had a cleaner who works at a managed isolation facility
who tested positive for COVID.
You'll remember that because anyone who works in our managed isolation facilities,
we test them regularly just to make sure we pick up anyone who might have
become infected with COVID but not have any symptoms. And that's essentially the category
this person's in. They're not displaying any symptoms. They had their first shot of
the COVID-19 vaccine, but they weren't fully immunised yet, as in they hadn't had their first shot of the COVID-19 vaccine,
but they weren't fully immunised yet,
as in they hadn't had their two shots yet.
But they also weren't symptomatic,
so that's a really good sign for us.
Have you had your shots yet, or are you waiting?
I'm waiting.
The only reason I am is because I don't want to be a queue jumper.
We've been prioritising
the people who are most at risk, you know,
who work in healthcare, who work in our managed isolation
facilities, who work at our border.
But I also take very seriously that
I need to model to people that it is
absolutely safe.
That's a no-win situation for you.
It is a no-win situation.
You hate queue jumpers, but
also... You want to lead by example. I do want to lead by example. It's likely that I a no-win situation. You see us hate Q-jumpers, but they, you know, also. You want to lead by example.
I do want to lead by example.
So it's likely that I'll do it before we have the general rollout for everyone.
I just haven't settled on quite when that is yet.
I'm just thinking your job's just going from one no-win situation to the next sometimes.
And on that, housing.
That's pretty much the definition of politics, I would say.
Yeah.
Just trying to be as no-, but not too many losses.
So a question here.
Do you think rents will go up after yesterday's announcement?
No.
Well, look, certainly our ambition is they do not.
One of the things, of course, we haven't seen rents go up at the rate that we have seen house prices go up.
Nevertheless, we are really mindful of impacts of what we do on rents.
We have to be.
But rents, ultimately, if you've got good supply out there,
if you've got houses in the rental market,
that makes a difference to whether or not prices are going up or not.
So one of the things we did yesterday was, of all the changes we've made, we've said,
we will not apply these for new builds.
We want to encourage people to keep investing in new houses.
And so that's one way we can just keep making sure
that we've got new supply, which will help with rent.
And the $3.8 billion for infrastructure,
that's not a lot in the scheme of infrastructure, though, is it?
Well, I guess just to give you a sense,
if you take an average of the amount of spending we put in every budget,
that sits above the operating allowance for a year
for generally most budgets for New Zealand.
So when you get into the billions, it's very hard to quantify,
you know, how much is that really.
But another good way to look at it is this is the largest infrastructure investment for housing in this way that we've seen since the 1970s.
So it is a big package.
We've been told that it could help generate tens of thousands of houses being built.
It's a longer-term thing, though. So this is basically saying the reason people are saying
we're not getting enough houses is that money's not going into
the pipes and roads that we need for land to develop it.
So that's what it's for.
So it's not for building the houses.
It's for the pipes and roads.
Yeah, you want to be careful.
The 70s were a particularly ugly time for housing.
As someone who recently bought a 1970s house.
A lot of brown aluminium.
It'll come around.
Everything comes in a circle.
It's like the tie-dyed shirt and the bike pants.
Are you saying that brown and coloured aluminium joinery could be back in?
I sure hope a pastel lime green aluminium is back in fashion.
Let's pass the floor against that immediately.
I just don't want to rule it out.
Another question, and do
leaders of other countries call you and
ask you for advice?
Oh, so we, you know,
do, we
do have, you know, what we call
bilaterals, you know, where I'll talk to other leaders
from time to time, and
we'll often trade notes,
absolutely, but I wouldn't frame it as people
calling for advice.
You know, you will say, oh, how's your vaccine rollout going?
We're pretty one track at the moment.
We mostly talk about COVID and, you know,
what's happening with your restrictions and so on.
So, yeah, we do talk about those things. You want to change it just a little bit
if you're going to copy somebody else's answers,
otherwise the UN will know that you're cheating.
Not many have taken our approach to the exam will know that you're cheating. Is that how it works?
Not many have taken our approach to the exam, is what I'm saying.
No, no.
A lot of questions in when we ask for
questions, Prime Minister, asking your Easter
plans, and in particular, are you secretly
getting married this Easter?
Oh, no.
However, Clark and I have said
this Easter we actually need to start planning our wedding.
It's one of those things we keep saying, oh, I must sit down and make a plan.
So we will spend some Easter planning it, but not actually doing a wedding.
Yeah, no, we are not ready.
What kind of planning?
What are you going to approach first?
Your table setting plan?
Like people you can't sit together?
Just telling people a date.
The basics.
A date.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Yeah, just the basics really.
It's been hard to prioritize.
Yeah.
Don't ask.
I figured it sounded like you were going to ask me for tips,
but mine was 10 years ago,
and I didn't play a huge role in the organisation of it at the time.
Yes.
Yeah.
Anyway, this has been fun.
We've lobbed you a couple of soft questions.
We hope Mark Hosking heard it this morning,
and that's how you retain your regular chat with the press.
It's nice to share.
Very unfair on yourself and your journalist particularly, dear boy.
I mean, we asked a couple of curly ones about rent.
Very harsh.
Stuff like that and all the good stuff.
All right.
Thanks so much.
Thanks, guys.
Talk to you soon.
Bye.
ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
Thanks, Rachel.
Welcome to the show.
Fleek, Svorn and Megan with Hayley Sproul.
After the show today, hitting the road, bangers bingo.
Tonight in Tauranga.
Where are we stopping on the drive?
Have you pre-planned what route we'll be taking?
State Highway 1, State Highway 27?
These are important questions to ask.
These are all important questions to ask.
What's the music going to be like?
Yeah, I prefer music.
We don't really, we just have big goss and yarns on the road trip normally.
And then there will be a stop along the way at some point for delicious snacks.
Natia?
Yummy.
Natia?
Pairoa's got the antique shops and you know I love a little squiz in the antique shops.
I know you do.
So Frosty and Fox tonight in Tauranga for Banger's Bingo
and the Helm tomorrow night in Hamilton.
If you want to squeeze in, you and three mates,
you want to register a team, we've got cash and prizes up for grabs.
You can register at ZM Online.
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Well, Soundkeeper Owls.
Yep, hello.
We've spoken about this.
It's imminent.
Because you are seeing people guessing the right answer. I know.
Even my friends, I
don't know. I don't know what to say to them. They keep
guessing things and I'm like...
Have any of your friends said the right thing?
Am I allowed to say that?
Oh.
Because then they'll know. Don't say.
It's going to be added pressure from friends. Let's just say
you know, it's been cold for a bit.
It's warming up.
I don't worry.
I don't get a hot and cold.
Okay.
Okay.
And you haven't been bribed at all.
No.
Because you're an intern.
No.
50,000.
You could go halves.
That's 25,000.
I know,
but this is like the dream almost.
Dream job,
you'd say.
And I'd rather that than bribe.
Don't corrupt the interns.
I come in innocently.
Georgia has a shot now.
Good morning, Georgia.
Good morning.
How are you?
Good, thanks.
Did you hear our 7 o'clock guess?
Yes, I did hear the guess.
The glitter cannon.
And then we said, have you seen the video?
Because the secret sound's in there somewhere.
And she said, no, I didn't see it.
And I think I heard the nation go, ooh.
We received a few very angry text messages about that.
So, Georgia, the pressure's on you
because if you get this wrong and it's a silly guess,
at this stage of the competition, the nation will judge you.
There'll be how to play.
No, I know.
Don't go outside.
It'll be other guesses.
Have you been following,
how long have you been following Secret Sound for?
A long time.
So with the $100,000 one as well,
I was following that and calling through.
I've been calling through every chance I can get,
so I'm absolutely elated to get a chance.
So you're a multi-season player.
I am, yes.
The guess that you've got now, Georgia,
how long have you had this guess for?
The start of the competition or just recently?
Just recently
with the video clue on Instagram
and then I sort of started
to piece together by the clues
and I feel that it fits.
So I'm hoping, fingers crossed.
Let's have a listen
to the ZM secret sound.
Now we also had the other clues.
There was the clue
that was in the TikTok video at the end.
A little extended sound.
And then that one.
And then we put those together.
One, three, two.
Which again left me even more confused than I already was.
Fair.
I think this for me. I think this is for me.
A series of slamming doors.
For me, this has been the hardest secret sound.
Yeah, that's what we tried to do.
Me and Gary.
All right, Georgia, $50,000 is yours if you can tell us what this sound is.
Okay.
I'm hoping that it is a blunt umbrella being opened.
Georgia?
Yes.
What would you do with $50,000?
It would just change my entire life.
It would be huge.
It would start my career off as a painter.
I'm in my honours here at the moment,
and I have a four-year-old daughter.
I'm a sole parent, so it would just be absolutely incredible.
Painter, like an artistic painter?
Yes, I'm an abstract artist.
Oh, cool.
When you said painter, I was like a house painter
and then you said you're a master.
I didn't know that there
was a qualification for house painting.
Four years at uni to do a painter house.
I thought the final question was you had to name every colour
on the Rosene colour chart.
Then you got your masters in house painting.
I can probably do that anyway, yeah.
Oh, wow.
That would be a great skill.
Yeah, I don't know if I want squiggles on the side of my house, though.
Is that what abstract is?
I don't have an abstract.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is.
Your house would stand out.
Yeah, it would, it would.
You're talking about you have a great looking house.
Okay.
Georgia.
So you said a blunt umbrella, so that would be specifically the brand of umbrella.
Is that the kind of umbrella that's in the video?
It's an umbrella?
I believe it is.
Okay.
Yeah, with the clothes, yes.
Okay.
Well, I'll get down to it now.
Georgia.
Uh-huh.
You have just won $50,000.
$50,000!
Can I sit on the committee?
Oh, my God!
Violet!
Violet, I just won it!
Violet!
Yeah, you won it!
You won it!
You made me!
Oh, my God, I won it!
Holy shit!
Oh, my God!
Oh, thank you so much!
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God. Oh, thank you so much. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh.
The secret song.
I mean, this doesn't mean a lot to you because you just won $50,000,
but these are the best confetti cannons we've ever had.
Oh, my gosh.
My shot cleared across the room.
I can't believe it.
Oh, my goodness, baby.
We've just won $50,000.
No.
I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry.
I'm going to cry too.
I'm just in complete shock.
Oh, my gosh.
Yep.
The secret sound is a blunt umbrella opening.
Oh, my gosh.
A blunt umbrella opening.
When you listen to all the...
They were amazing.
They were so cryptic.
And then it finally made sense.
I was like, what on earth is this?
And then I... And when you listen to the actual was like, what on earth is this? And then I...
And when you listen to the actual, like, that sound combined,
it totally is an umbrella opening.
I know, yeah.
And I bought an umbrella about two weeks ago
because we had terrible rain here in Hawke's Bay.
And that sort of sparked in my mind
the idea of the opening of the umbrella.
Oh, my goodness.
I can't believe it.
And I knew what it was last year as well.
I knew that it was a champagne bottle
for about four weeks.
But you couldn't get through.
No, I couldn't. Oh my god, I can't
believe it. I'm glad it worked out for you
this year. $15,000
Georgia. Holy moly.
Thank you so much. You've changed my life.
This is great.
That's so cool.
What is your four-year-old making of this?
Oh, she said no.
She still just had breakfast,
and she just doesn't really completely understand,
but she will understand.
Oh, my gosh.
Wow.
It's definitely a Macca's breakfast hour.
I can ditch whatever you had planned
and go to the drive-thru and get some hotcakes. It's a salisbury day. It is. Oh, my God, that's breakfast hour. I can ditch whatever you had planned and go to the driver and get some hotcakes.
It's a salisbury day.
Yeah, fries.
It is.
Oh, my God, that's so awesome.
Congratulations, Georgia.
Yeah, as like Fletch said before.
Thank you so much.
No, I absolutely no idea until you said it.
But then when you hear that, that totally sounds like an umbrella opening.
Like, it was there all along.
That's why I got frustrated.
I'm like, guys. So this original part one, which is.18 seconds, what's that?
That's the...
It opening, I'd say.
That's it opening.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
Wow.
Wow.
And then what about some of the clues that we had?
Yeah.
I'm going to go through them now or later.
Well, let's give you a moment to process, Georgia.
Yeah.
And then let's come back next and go through some of those cryptic clues
and how they worked out with the secret sound.
But you've won it, Georgia, $50,000.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
It's like she'd forgotten and you just reminded000. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Woo! It's like she'd forgotten
and you just reminded her.
Well.
Switch yourself.
Sorry, he had his headphones on.
He had the left ear
on the right ear.
Oh, God.
So flustered.
Okay, so ZM's $50,000
Secret Sound.
All thanks to Star,
which is streaming now
on Disney+.
More comedy,
more drama,
more action.
Disneyplus.com to learn more.
And we have
given it away.
The winner is Georgia.
Now, you've had a couple of minutes, Georgia.
Has it sunk in?
I have.
Has it sunk in that you've won $50,000?
Not yet.
I don't think it ever will.
But I'm a lot calmer now, yes.
Georgia, we have your mum, Janine, on the phone.
Good morning, Janine.
Oh, my God, good morning.
Hello.
Oh, honey.
Oh, my goodness.
That is so...
I just can't believe it.
That is so interesting.
You're not close to no yet.
I just heard.
I just heard more.
She's been listening, Georgia.
And Janine, Georgia's won $50,000 with the ZM Secret Sound.
Oh, my God.
You know, she knew it last year and she didn't sign up.
She is the most incredible young girl.
Oh, my goodness.
Sorry, I won't raise one, but I've got the most incredible children.
It's easy to say that now Janine That she's flush with cash
And you want some
And it comes mum with a handout
Yeah okay that's cool
But listen I just want to say one thing
Georgia
I'm going to look after it for you darling
I told you Georgia
That is so fantastic That is so amazing I told you, Georgia. Yeah, mum's got some.
That is so fantastic.
That is so amazing.
And she graduates tomorrow.
Oh, my Lord.
What a week.
Yeah, she graduates tomorrow.
That is so cool.
On Fridays, actually, mum.
But, yeah.
On Fridays, Janine.
Don't turn up tomorrow.
You won't see her graduate.
I'm sorry.
I'm a little confused.
All right.
Well, maybe we'll need a photo with you in the ceremony
with the giant novelty check at the graduation.
Yeah, Georgia, you're amazing.
Yeah.
I just want to believe it.
That is so much money.
That is so life-changing.
And thank you very much.
And Georgia, oh, my goodness, get around
here shortly.
Janine's got champagne
on the chill. Yeah, don't go to work
today. Yeah, you're getting two pieces of
paper this week, Georgia. One probably cost
you about $50,000 and one has won you
$50,000.
Awesome. Alright, well, thank you
very much, Janine. We'll just pop Janine
mum on hold there and continue with you, Georgia. We'll just pop Janine, Mum, on hold there
and continue with you, Georgia.
We want to run through the cryptic clues
that we gave out during the course of Secret Sound.
Now, so if you've just joined us,
the secret sound, which is this,
and with all the sound clues that came out combined,
was the opening of a blunt umbrella,
which was in the video.
Now this is, you've got it in the studio.
This is the, what colour
is that? A coir? Is it an a coir?
A teal? A teal.
It's a nice blue.
So open that up
next to the microphone, Soundkeeper Al.
I don't want to kill the microphone, but I'll do it.
You kind of hear it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. You kind of hear it?
Yeah, yeah.
Wow, okay.
And that's also 14 years bad luck.
21.
Is it seven years bad luck per open?
Per time?
No, no.
We're fine.
No bad luck.
Let's run through the clues.
Greg.
Clue one was Greg.
What did you make of that, Georgia?
Okay, so I thought it was, this sounds so silly now,
but I thought it was an instrument called a cassava from that clue.
Oh, sorry, a cabasa from that clue,
just from the order and how it fell down,
and Greg alluded to a composer in the...
Oh, wow, wow.
You went deep there, Georgia.
You went deep, but incorrect.
It's simple.
Greg Brebner is the inventor of the blunt umbrella.
Oh, right.
I found it out.
You did later.
Yeah, because it was founded, made in New Zealand, the blunt umbrella.
I've got one of these.
I've got the exact same one in a black.
How could you not know?
Mate, I want to listen.
It hasn't rained for ages.
True, true, true, true.
We're in a drought.
We need the rain.
Clue number...
I wonder if it would have been self-cooker
if we'd been having more regular rain lately.
Maybe.
Clue two, roses are red, violets are blue.
I need you...
Your hand, yeah.
I need your hand.
Here is your clue.
You hold an umbrella with your hand.
That's a simple one.
Okay.
Clue three, stuck in level three.
Don't worry, Auckland, you're still in play.
Well, Aucklanders, it's a... Well, the blunt umbrella is a very homely object to have.
Aucklanders can still use that in level three.
At home.
They're stuck at home.
Okay, the next five clues were connected to the first letter of every main word.
Yep, so we've got big sky pilot, bride, B.
And then dull face, homebody, Leave, L.
The Proposal, Untied was the word, U.
And then Titanic, The Image of a Necklace, N.
Right.
Die Hard, Tonight, T.
All of that, Blunt.
Wow, that was cryptic.
I wonder if, did anybody get that, I wonder?
I don't know.
I feel like I saw one.
I didn't get that.
Yeah, one person online got that. One person did get that, I wonder? I don't know. I feel like I saw one. I didn't get that. Yeah, one person online got that.
One person did get that.
Wow.
Yeah.
Okay.
Clue 9, TikTok post to an additional component of the secret sound.
That was the sound of the umbrella opening.
Clue 10, jackpot clue.
Image is a rainbow into gold.
That was the one.
Rain.
Rain.
Oh, was it Georgia?
Yeah, the rainbow.
Yeah.
It's been raining here, and I was like, oh, a rainbow rain.
I need in my umbrella.
And then I was like, oh.
That was the one.
There you go.
In the video, you walked past with the umbrella.
And clue 11 was the iHeartRadio clue 1, 3, and 2 plus the extra sound component.
That is the sound of the umbrella opening.
Yeah, that was the big one right there up close with the mic.
And then clue 12 was H-I-M-Y-M.
Yeah, and that's an umbrella brand.
Yeah.
It's an umbrella brand, though, I'm pretty sure.
I looked it up with umbrella and it's an umbrella brand.
And the show actually has a yellow umbrella as a major part of the plot.
Yeah, How I Met Your Mother.
No kidding.
Wow. So, look, there was Met Your Mother. No kidding. Wow.
So, look, there was a lot of rabbit holes to go down.
You're an abstract artist,
and you took an abstract approach to some of those quotes.
You got it right.
It wasn't what was intended.
A lot more simpler.
Well, Georgia, congratulations.
All thanks to Star Streaming.
Now on Disney+, you have won $50,000 with ZM Secret Sound.
Thank you so much.
Thank you so much.
I'm so grateful.
I can't believe it.
It's very cool to be able to do this.
This is awesome.
Yeah, you're most welcome.
You're just an intern now, Al.
No, back to it.
I'll go to my desk.
And that car needs cleaning out.
All right, fact of the day is next.
Kygo Selena Gomez on ZM.
Fleshformer Megan, Selena Gomez on ZM. Flesh, Vaughn and Megan, the podcast, ZM.
It's time for Fact of the Day, Day, Day, Day, Day.
Today's Fact of the Day, Leah Knox wrote to me and said,
talking about this over the weekend with some friends,
thought you'd find this interesting for Fact of the Day.
Oh, okay.
And here we are, Leah, so I have deemed it very interesting.
Well, especially because somebody's done your work for you.
That's my favourite part.
That's your favourite part of all of this.
We get sent lots of fact of the day suggestions.
Tons.
And we've been doing this for like 10 years.
So.
You're old.
No, I started as an infant.
I was eight at the time.
Yeah.
Okay.
Right.
Yeah.
And now I'm 18.
Oh my God.
Cute.
Can't wait to go out this weekend.
You actually have the Guinness World Record for youngest network radio show. Correct. Yes. I Can't wait to go out this weekend. You actually have the Guinness World Record for youngest network radio show.
Correct.
Yes.
I can't wait to go out this weekend.
Yeah.
I'm going to go to a bottomless brunch because I'm 18 now.
Yeah, great.
I'm going to buy a lot of tickets.
I'm going to buy a vape pen.
I'm going to buy everything an 18-year-old should do.
So Leah sent this in, and it was very interesting.
They were talking about how many flies there are in the world.
At best estimation,
how many flies are in the world
at any given time?
Oh, there'd be so many.
And how many flies,
if we as humans were to kill flies,
how many would we have to kill
to completely eliminate flies?
Oh, it'd be impossible.
But it would be so trillions or
billions of billions any given time for every human on earth there's 17 million flies for each
human each human there's 17 million flies what do they do they just buzz around but what do they do
in the in the in the whole scheme of things? Flies. Like if they disappeared, would we be worse?
Like if bees go, we're screwed.
We've got X amount of years.
Well, there's lots of different types of flies.
Those big, slow ones, we called them passpellum flies growing up.
I don't know why.
Because you know that grass, that real thick-bladed passpellum grass
with the little thing that grows off the top?
I don't know if it was because it looked like that
or when that sprouted was when they came oh right those big dopey ones
yeah you can catch and you feel really like just a bit smaller than a blow fly yuck blowflies are
too big they've got no business being a fly they're too big and they're too buzzy and they're
not gonna be a bee if i was a if i was a blow fly i'd pay myself yellow and black and pretend to be
a bumblebee because people love bumblebees people don't love blow flies no one knows a blowfly, I'd paint myself yellow and black and pretend to be a bumblebee.
Because people love bumblebees.
People don't love blowflies.
No one loves a blowfly.
No.
So, but then those little, what about those little super quick ones?
Those little super quick flies that you can just never catch.
Oh, yeah.
Just try as you might.
Not fruit flies.
No, they're the tiniest of flies.
So it'll be 7 million flies, 17 million flies per person. And all kinds of different flies. So it'd be 7 million flies. 17 million flies per person.
And all kinds of different flies. All breeds,
all species of flies at mathematical estimation.
Which I did the maths for to work out, okay,
well, if it's 17 million per human and you're
timesing it by 7 billion,
rough estimation of how many humans there
are, how many flies would that
be? And it gave me
1.19E plus 17.
So at my best workout, that means that there's 17 zeros.
Wow.
And then two more.
So I looked up what do you call a number with 17 zeros on it,
and it's a sept billion.
Not a sept million, sept billion.
God, we are outnumbered by flies.
Could you imagine the heart palpitations that mums right now are having?
Because does your mum go crazy?
She's like, shut the door, the fly's getting in.
And then she's running around with the swatter and the fly spray.
As your mum, my mum, is a fly sprayer. She'll just literally
walk through the house just like
use a whole can.
Absolutely no remorse. Her grandchildren
are choking. Watering from the
eyes. Please, that'll stop.
She's like, not until they're all dead.
It's like a SWAT team's chucked a
grenade into your house. A smoke grenade.
And I said, get those automated ones.
And she's like, you can't have enough of them.
Because you've got to have
like six of them
going in the house
to get all the flies.
Oh, right, okay.
She's an absolute
flies-worst nightmare.
Don't tell her
that there's 17 million
flies per her.
She'll just buy
all the black flags
she can afford
and just push all the lids down
and leave them outside
to create some sort of
fly-less barrier
around her house.
So today's fact of the day is for every human on Earth,
there's 17 million flies.
Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.
28 to 9. Georgia has won our $50,000 secret sound.
Not you, Georgia.
I heard she's sharing it, though, with me.
With everybody called Georgia.
If you're a Georgia who wants your slice,
make all applications to the Georgia committee. But a slightly poorer Georgia has the latest next.
Who called Georgia poor?
Well, she doesn't have $50,000.
How do you know?
She's from Canterbury.
They've always got money squirreled away.
Canterbury people?
Rural Canterbury people are always squirreling away money.
How much would you have if you sold your cows?
I don't have cows.
Yeah, whatever.
I've got cow hides.
You've got R.M. Williams.
She's got a big collection of R.M. Williams boots.
I reckon there's money sown in the souls.
You know what Canterbury people are like with their money?
The government won't get their hands on it.
I'll bury it in the hills, the port hills.
That's not a thing.
It is.
Every person.
This is what they don't tell you.
I've got a friend in Christchurch.
When you move to Christchurch, you get a plot of land where you get to bury your treasure.
I've never been told this. Don't lie to know what it is. Don't lie to me!
I know where your treasure plot is.
Everyone in Canterbury, squirreling away.
It's like you've got a spade in the back of your boot.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's why they like digging holes.
You ever see?
Sunday activity, love it.
Love digging holes.
You take a person from Christchurch out of Christchurch
and they're always digging holes.
All right, Georgia, digging your holes with your $50,000.
With our cash.
You got the latest next?
I do.
We've been saying one of the Kardashians' names wrong,
so I'll tell you more next.
ZDM's bonus banger.
$100 cash up for grabs from Nine,
and you can bury it in the hills if you like.
That's nothing for Georgia, Runa.
Thousands of dollars buried in the port hills.
I'm a millionaire.
Is that what you want?
Yes!
And admission!
We knew it.
We broke down Christchurch, and they're millions of dollars.
All right, you've just got to be the first caller through
when the bonus banger plays.
ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
Over the weekend, Kylie Jenner asked if everybody could chip in
for a makeup artist who needs $60,000.
And everyone's like, um, excuse me?
Billionaire?
I think, was it billionaire?
Was it with a B?
Yeah.
Billionaire.
So she's, Georgie, you talked about this before earlier in the show.
She's come out and said, it's actually a friend of a friend.
It's not my makeup artist.
Yes, but she has worked with him in the past,
but they're not, they don't talk anymore. So it's just like her helping out her of a friend. It's not my makeup artist. Yes, but she has worked with him in the past, but they don't talk anymore.
So it's just like her helping out her
makeup artist friend. I get that she was
doing the nice thing because she's got a big social media
following. So promote it, but then
you're just asking for trouble.
100%. She gave
$5,000, which is amazing.
But just do that on the down low and don't
promote it. Yeah. Because that's where she went wrong
because that's when people, you know, they say what they've donated
and everyone's like, oh, you could have gone more.
That's the sad part about it, right?
She made a good donation.
Yeah.
But could totally have just afforded to bankroll the whole thing
if she was going to go public with it.
Because what is 60?
I'll match you guys dollar for dollar up to 60,000.
How about that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But even still, like, she's a billionaire.
That is what?
How much of a percentage of...
Yeah, but then it's insane that you guys can do it and...
I like when people do the match dollar for dollar
because then, overall, it leads to a bigger total.
You know when someone's like,
we'll match you dollar for dollar,
I think that's a good way of doing it.
She's a billionaire,
and people have been calling her a bit out of touch on this
because, you know, she's a billionaire,
and that, I mean, that's a coffee for you, isn't it?
The equivalent of a coffee.
The coffee's cost $60,000.
Well, it's for a billionaire.
That's a coffee.
I don't know.
I just hand over my credit card to whatever member of staff's popping over to the coffee
shop.
So we wanted to ask the question this morning.
And it's a climb.
Because they say, charge him $60,000.
Teach this asshole a lesson.
So we wanted to talk this morning, like, do you have an out of touch rich friend?
Because, you know, you've always had those people in your friend group that,
because their parents were rich or they just have all this money,
they don't know things.
Yeah.
Like, you know how they always, people always ask celebrities, like,
how much is a bottle of milk?
And they're like, oh, $25.
And they just have no idea
because they don't look at the prices ever
or they don't buy milk themselves
because they have people that do it for them.
This might be the Canterbury in me,
but I don't think I know what a bottle of milk is,
but that's because I also,
I don't like the supermarket shop,
so I'm oblivious to it all.
Chocolate,
if you ask me what chocolate costs,
then I'd be different.
You'll know.
You know.
I know special,
like I know Dairydale's two for six.
Oh yeah,
it's a good deal.
I always get Dairydale.
It's the same stuff.
Yeah,
exactly.
It comes from an animal,
a very similar animal.
You're not out of touch.
No,
I'm so in touch.
You're so wildly in touch.
I'm wildly in touch.
Two for $7
for a loaf of Vogels.
Yep.
Does that make me out of touch that I'll only eat Vogels?
Yeah.
Sade said we're out of Vogels at the weekend.
Do you want some of the toast that we feed the kids?
I was like, no, I don't eat that.
She's like a second tier toast.
They don't like Vogels.
What's wrong with these kids?
They like the cheap stuff.
Yeah, well, you know when you're a kid, you only like white bread.
Yeah.
Yeah, because you put it in the microwave and then it gets you to squeeze it in your hand.
What?
No, just me.
It's not Play-Doh, Georgia.
What are you squeezing in your hand?
Toast.
The bread.
So you put the piece of bread, like a slice of bread in the microwave.
Like white bread.
Like white bread.
But I'm not squeezing a slice of Vogel's, that's an expensive bread.
Yeah, it wouldn't taste the same.
White bread's good different.
It hits differently.
It does hit different.
So like 30 seconds in the microwave,
and then you roll it into a ball,
and you squeeze it, and it just...
What is it like eating damper?
Is it like eating...
Kind of like eating dough, but almost yummier.
But you don't put anything on it.
No, you just squeeze it.
Do you take the crusts off?
God, you're weird.
No, you keep the crust.
You eat the crust first, both ends.
You're kind of like in a roll.
And then squeeze it.
Oh.
But yeah, is there anybody listening on the back of this?
We're going to need all the carbohydrates they can to go dig up their Canterbury money.
Is there anybody listening now that has a really rich, out-of-touch friend?
Like you hang out with the friend group and they're like, oh my God, let's just go on
a private yacht for a weekend.
And you're like, none of us can afford that.
I don't know.
Would there be anyone listening that does have a...
Because you'd find this when you went out for dinner, right?
Your rich friend would be like, let's just go here.
And everyone else is like, how do we say no?
Because that's too expensive.
How are we thinking like $30 a head Chinese BYO?
Yeah.
Not high end.
Okay, so give us a call.
0800 dials at M.
You can text as well, 9696. Do you have a really rich, out of touch friend? give us a call 0800 Dials at M You can text as well
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Do you have a really rich
Out of touch friend?
Give us a call
We are talking about
If you have an out of touch
Rich friend
Like someone that
Doesn't know how to do things
Because they've never had to
Or money's never been an object
So they don't think about
What things cost
Some text messages
In on the subject
Somebody said We had a flatmate move in,
and we knew that they were wealthy,
but when it was time for them to do the chores,
they didn't know how to do anything,
because they never had to.
They never had to.
But this was their big thing.
They were moving out of home to make it their own way.
Their parents paid their rent directly into the flat account,
so they weren't paying their own rent.
Their parents were paying their rent.
They had a job.
Yeah.
And the best thing ever was watching them trying to use a broom.
How do you mess that up?
When you're a baby, when you're a kid, and you play with a broom.
Yeah.
And you're like, oh, okay, you push it that way and stuff goes that way.
Not if the cleaners bought it with them and you didn't have to have a broom.
Oh. People are so rich
they don't even let their kids play with cleaning toys.
Liz, you've got an out-of-touch rich friend?
Yeah, many years ago.
Okay.
We went for a brunch in Melbourne
after the Melbourne Cup week,
you know, the horse racing.
And my brother-in-law was dating a
cousin of the Freedman family.
Lee Freedman was
he
Right, so horse money,
horse money. Yeah, horse money.
Anyway, so they invited us out and we
all went, there was a group of about 12
of us and we were down one end.
And so Lee Freedman's
brother was there and he was ordering
you know champagne and crayfish and and you know and you guys are like we're just from new zealand
stop please stop this is gonna be splatters uh liz six you call uh ross a rich out of touch friend
oh my uh cousin is um well his father is Lady Gaga's lawyer.
So he came out to New Zealand for a bit of an overseas experience.
And I ended up taking him to the drive-thru at McDonald's.
He was 18 years old.
First time ever being to a drive-thru at McDonald's.
Oh, my God.
Because what?
He doesn't normally eat fast food.
He has, like, what, meals cooked for him? Yeah. McDonald's. Oh, my God. Because what? He doesn't normally eat fast food.
He has, like, what, meals cooked for him.
Yeah, he's got meds and all sorts.
And never had the chance to go through a McDonald's drive-thru.
So we took him through there and he got as much food as he possibly could think of from McDonald's.
Wow, that is so out of touch. That is wild. Imagine leaving home and you don't know how to cook or even let alone order at a drive-thru because you've been...
You've never done it.
You've never done it.
Amazing.
Ross, thanks for your call.
Owen, who's your super rich, out-of-touch friend?
Hi.
Yeah, so I went to a uni in the States near Boston
and my friend was like, oh, we should go into New York City
where my parents have an apartment.
Oh, yeah.
I'm like, oh, so how are we going to get into the city?
Do you have a car, or are we taking a train, or whatever?
And he's like, oh, we'll just use Blade.
And I'm like, what's that?
And he's like, it's Uber for helicopters.
Oh! Awesome!
I want that frame.
Yeah, awesome. If he's paying,
did he pay?
Uh, well,
no, he said I wasn't going to fork
over $500 for a helicopter
ride into the city to
split it with him. So, uh,
we ended up just
taking the train, which was boring.
Yeah, but cheaper.
But affordable.
About $20 as opposed to $500.
It would have been funny him asking to do a split for you, though,
on the Uber.
I know.
And then it would come through and your credit card would decline it
because it's like $500.
You're just like, sorry.
It's not coming through, man.
It's not giving me the notification, bro.
I don't know how to do it.
Thanks, you're cool, Owen. It's not giving me the notification, bro. I don't know how to do it. Thanks, you cool, Owen.
Finish up with some texts.
Another one, somebody said,
we had someone move into our flat.
We didn't really know them.
They just applied, moved in.
They were from the States.
She was 21.
We knew she was pretty wealthy,
but had no idea how to be an adult.
She couldn't cook or make stuff for herself.
She Uber eats everything
and they would only pick at it
and not eat the whole thing. It's so wasteful and then when we were talking about
cooking she ordered hello fresh boxes and then we'll just leave it like put it in the fridge
and just leave it there and everything would just be soggy soggy and she wouldn't cook anything it
was just the idea of it she'd always end up just getting takeaways anytime it was absolutely crazy
and didn't care because just was loaded yeah she was just getting takeaways anytime. It was absolutely crazy. Wow. And didn't care because it just was loaded.
Yeah.
She was just getting the money from somewhere.
Somebody said, we were going to a sports game and I said to my friend, we should take the
bus.
And she said, oh my gosh, yes, fun.
I've heard about these.
That's such a Christchurch thing.
We're in our 40s and just the thought of going on a bus had just never crossed her mind.
Had never been on public transport of any kind.
Whereas in other cities, it's like Wellington.
It's like no big deal.
Nobody judges you if you get the bus because everybody does.
Catch you to school every day.
Somebody said, I had a friend who got to 20 without ever going to Kmart.
I said, we're going to Kmart.
She's like, oh my God, cute, yes.
But that's a fun activity.
That's like a late Saturday night sometimes.
It's amazing.
But you don't want your children mixing with those riffraff.