ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 24th February 2021

Episode Date: February 23, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, welcome to the Fleeche Vaughan and Megan podcast with Hayley Sprouts. Thanks to McCafe. Download the Macca's app, buy five McCafe coffees and get one free. Well, we just finished today's show and we went to the local cafe. Yeah, we all felt a bit of a sluggish day today, so we wanted to pick me up a little snack. We felt a little doomy gloomy with the COVID-19 news that someone with COVID-19 had been working at Kmart, a botany. We were just kind of like, oh, damn, that doesn't feel good.
Starting point is 00:00:29 We need carbs. We need carbohydrates in the form of, what do you call it? Complex sugars. No, these aren't complex. These are processed sugars. Processed mega sugars. And I tell you what, this will be a tease for tomorrow's podcast because I've got some brand new sunglasses.
Starting point is 00:00:46 And the origin story of these sunglasses will. I want to say you're looking quite cool, though. Thank you. As faint would have it, that trip to the bakery had it all. Yeah. Didn't it? It was a rollercoaster. It was all go for about 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:01:04 I feel closer. I definitely, we're bonded. We certainly have. I'm still so hot and sweaty that my glasses are fogging up. These new glasses that I'm wearing. They're good looking because I know you struggle with sunglasses. I've got my Ray-Bans, which are my go-to.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I like my Ray-Bans, but a lot of sunglasses look too big on me. But these look like... Do I look like a fisherman, though? You've got a small face, you've got beady little eyes, you've got a narrow, bird-like face. Sunglasses often do look big on you because you've got a very
Starting point is 00:01:37 like, a bird from bird-nurse-y. Yeah, beady little eyes. The monobrow, of course, that always always Your monobrow affects How sunglasses sit Your protruding Your protruding caveman brow The bush gets in the way
Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah Oh god It makes sunglasses With the Team that With the Skinny face Yeah
Starting point is 00:01:57 Particularly at the temples It goes in Yeah It goes in a lot At the temples Are you done? You're done Really painting a picture
Starting point is 00:02:04 You look Your face looks a lot like when they find an old skeleton from the eruption of Pompeii, and they're like, what did this burns victim who died in the horrific, when the air temperature itself exceeded boiling, and this person was cooked on the bone. Do me next, do me next. What do they look like? And they reconstruct you with almost like a spam-coloured
Starting point is 00:02:29 plaster scene. Oh, my God. It worries me how easy I find it being mean. Like, sometimes I'm like, this could have gone one of two ways. Yeah. Like, yeah. Everyone says you're such a nice guy. What a nice guy.
Starting point is 00:02:44 And I am. He's a prick. I'm just below the surface. ways. Yeah. Everyone says you're such a nice guy and how little they know. I'm just below the surface. I'm like Rotorua. I'm beautiful to look at on a fun weekend, but just below the surface, I'm geothermal activity, baby. I'm ready to blow out a street and just have steam piss in the air.
Starting point is 00:03:00 With my narrow bird-like face, I've managed to get some amazing sunglasses out of this. It's important to remember bird-like, not bird-esque. Yeah, yeah, bird-like. Almost like a man-bird hybrid, not a bird in human form. Yeah, yeah. That's an important distinction to make.
Starting point is 00:03:23 And you know, you might be thinking, Christ, Warren, what's got into you? A, the most sugary treat I've ever had in my life. Yeah, you are pinning off the walls. And when you hear the story tomorrow, you'll understand my new vigour for this thing we call life. Good morning. Welcome to the show, Fleeche, Fawn and Megan with Hayley Sproul. I thought Rachel said a free hair extension. Yeah, so did I and I was like, sign me up.
Starting point is 00:03:51 But it was a free three-year extension to the playing contract. Yeah. Ah. Question, how many people go to Kmart at night time? Oh, it's the only time to go. Damn it. Yeah, I'm afraid. It's quiet.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yeah. The kids aren't there. They're in bed. It's peaceful. Sometimes you see a kid, like... I know, at like 11pm, you're like,
Starting point is 00:04:16 what are you doing up? What are you doing? Get out of here. Who's responsible for this? Did you... Were you not sleeping so your parents took you to Kmart?
Starting point is 00:04:23 Or were your parents like, wake up, we need to go to Kmart. Yeah. Did you get w not sleeping so your parents took you to Kmart? Or were your parents like, wake up. We need to go to Kmart. Did you get woken up by your parents when you were a kid? It was always the most terrifying thing. Wake up. I remember two times getting woken up. One was for a rugby world cup, but it was just because I liked the idea of getting up in the middle
Starting point is 00:04:40 of the night to watch rugby and egg toast. Dad would be like, wake up. The rugby's about to start. And I was like, I can still remember it. It was terrifying. It was like when we woke our kids up for the Prince Harry, Meghan Markle wedding. Wake up, the prince and princess are about to be married. Do you talk to your kids like that? Well, you whisper because you don't want to blow them away.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Wake up, it's time for the wedding. Oh, just turn the light on. You can get down in your ear. Bang some pots. Get up. Look what the duvet. Oh, you guys are really, you didn't know on. You get down in the rear. Bang some pots. Get up. Love off the duvet. Oh, you guys are really, you didn't know that's what you do in the morning
Starting point is 00:05:08 when you're late for school, like duvet off, windows open. Yeah, and then there's that point where you become a teenager where they can't do that anymore. Because you're too strong. Because God knows what you're going to see. Because if you're too strong,
Starting point is 00:05:18 they could overpower you. Right. Well, if you were in the Kmart Botany Store last Friday and Saturday between 3.30pm and 10.30pm, you are considered a casual plus contact. And there were a couple of vape stores as well. The dark vape. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:36 That's what the two places they went. Kmart because that was where they worked and the vape store because that is where they get their... What do you call it, Jared? Vape juice. Hey, dark vape. This is someone that is where they get their, what do you call it, Jared? Vape juice. Hey, dark vape. This is someone that should have been at home, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Correct. God help this person if the internet finds out who they are because they were asymptomatic. They hadn't had a test, however. It doesn't matter. This was their first test. They were told. Yeah, no, no, totally.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I'm just giving some context. Hey, I just want to go back to dark vapes because that's going to be an idea for a store. We could all go in, totally. I'm just giving some context. I just want to go back to dark vapes because that's been the idea for a store. We could all go in on it. Okay. Darth Vapor. Do you want to be sued by Disney? Damn it.
Starting point is 00:06:13 No, we'll just make it just different. Darth Vapor. And then the noise is just... You're getting sued. You're getting sued. Don't steal my idea. Well, the Prime Minister joins us on the show this morning at 10 to 8 for an absolute grilling.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yeah. I'll get ready for that. Get ready for this grilling. And do you know what? Under the story I'm reading about the COVID, blah, blah, blah, it's Newstalk ZB. It's got Mike Hoskins' line-up this morning. He doesn't have the Prime Minister.
Starting point is 00:06:43 What does he have? He's got Ashley Bloomfield. Okay, yeah. He's got a couple of those. Do I see? Yeah, I think he's got some other politicians on, but we've got the Prime Minister. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:52 No big deal. I'm still semi-expecting that rug to be pulled from under our feet as she has to deal with something slightly more important than our jovial chitchat. Me too. Me too. I like that we've locked her in quite early on the show then because now she can't back out.
Starting point is 00:07:05 She has before. We're pumping the hell out of it. Well, coming up on the show, the top six and keeping it in Parliament, there was a send-off for Winston Peters. He's cost $12,000 of taxpayers' money. Yeah, I've got the breakdown. I've got all the receipts. The top six expenses of Winston's
Starting point is 00:07:22 leaving party and also the dark web has done its yearly PR release. So, hey, guys, I know we're called the dark web, but, you know, there's a light side to us. The 20 most common passwords on the dark web. That's right, they got your password. We'll run through those next, and no doubt you've got one of them on the list maybe.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. The dark web where stuff happens. Dark stuff happens. I mean, if you think about how grim the internet is and then this is labelled the dark web, it must be a whole lot worse. We've talked about this before. You've got to have a special browser.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Onion. Onion. Onion. An onion browser. I thought you had to have to access the dark web like a whole hard drive, like a whole other system, or is it just
Starting point is 00:08:11 a website? It's a browser, right? And then you go to the... I don't know. I think... Maybe we should ask... Onion. I'm not just saying onion for no reason. This is definitely... Onion! I was like... Well, Google, how do you get on the dark web? Don't. I'm sure just saying onion for no reason. This is definitely onion. Well, Google, how do you get on the dark web?
Starting point is 00:08:28 Don't. I'm sure I did. They'll get you. And someone was doing a research piece on it for like Vice. Oh, wow. Okay, yeah. And they met up with someone with a dark web and you get like an actual physical. Well, they probably do that so that, yeah, there's no evidence. And then they can get rid of that if you need to.
Starting point is 00:08:45 But, yeah, I mean, all kinds of stuff. Drugs? Yeah. Hit men? Tor is free and open source software for enabling anonymous communication by directing internet traffic through a free worldwide volunteer overlay network consisting of more than 7,000 relays in order to conceal a user's location. Onion.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Onion. And it's a logo. It's a logo and it's a logo. It's a logo. It's an onion. It's saying that there's hundreds and hundreds of layers. Right. And dark site websites end in dot onion. Really?
Starting point is 00:09:13 Do you feel like the moment... Onion. Onion. Do you feel like the moment you download onion, what do you download? It's just a simple download link? God, I can't even look at like slightly saucy things that work. I can't imagine they're going to let me download it.
Starting point is 00:09:26 The moment you download it, the cops are going to become knocking on your door, wondering what you're looking for. So the dark web also sell mass amounts of data. So the data would be like mass security breaches of, remember they'll hack a company and they'll be like, oh, your security may be compromised. Oh, yeah. We've all had an email from a company.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Sorry, we've had a little slip up. Yeah. You might want to change your password. Yeah. That means your password is online. Actually, the latest updates for the iPhone have a security feature that tell you what sites you log on to if your password has been compromised. Oh, that's good. And there's actually websites
Starting point is 00:10:08 you can go to, although who knows which ones you can trust. Where you put your email address in and it will tell you if in any breach databases your password or that username or email has been in there. Yeah. It would be a real rigmarole for me because I'm that person
Starting point is 00:10:24 who has one password with slight variations from every time that I've forgotten it on different websites. Yeah. So say it's like drink bottle is my password. Yeah. It's drink bottle everywhere. But then it's drink bottle with a capital D on just one side and then drink bottle one exclamation mark on another side that required a bit more security. Because they needed a symbol and a number. And a capital letter.
Starting point is 00:10:46 And a capital letter. Yeah. Capital D, rink bottle, one exclamation. I think that's everyone. Well, the list has been released of the top passwords that are for sale on the dark web. And apparently, because everybody's remote working, because of the pandemic,
Starting point is 00:11:03 a lot more thought should be put into passwords and security because so much more information is being used remotely and being sent across networks. So they're saying if you have any of these, definitely time to change. 20 is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Then there's 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, password 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0, 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 34567890, 123123123. Sunshine is 15.
Starting point is 00:11:28 That's our first appearance of a word. Really? Is that just someone needs a password, they look out the window and they're like, Sunny. Yeah, I don't know. Sunshine. Lemonfish is 14. Lemonfish.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Don't know why. Seriously? Stratfor is 13. Stratfor. know why seriously strat 4 is 13. strat 4. like stratford the place in taranaki but without the d strat 4. then there's just six ones then there's abc one two three then there's colon one two three four five six seven eight secret because you've got yeah you don't have a capital letter there that's the only thing i can't see in that one. QWERTY1 is number 9. That's just the first row of the top keyboard. Yep, or the 1. And a capital letter, so that's a
Starting point is 00:12:09 text. Those two boxes, no symbol though. 123456789. Password 1. Good to see password 1 still in the top 10. Number 7 this year. I thought that would have been number 1. Yeah, capital P. Capital P, 1. Yep. QWERTY123. Capital Q there.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Who is using these passwords? There are definitely people out there listening right now going, oh, Aramant. Surely not. Okay. Number five. I've never seen this one before. One, ASD, ASD, ASD, ASD.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Oh, because those are in a row. Yep. Next to the cap blocks. Yeah, you thought you were smart. ASD, ASD, ASD. The fifth most popular one. One, two, three, four. One, two, three, four. And then one, two, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And then 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. And then just password. Which I don't even know how you can have that. Is that number one? Because it's all lowercase. No, number two. Okay. It's password.
Starting point is 00:12:55 It's all lowercase. No symbols. But there are some that don't need it. Yeah. You know, but in that lowercase exclamation mark number thing, that's a new thing. Also, there's no, actually, in the entire top 20, there's no passwords that have both a capital letter, a number, a lowercase, and a symbol.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Wow, okay. None in the top 20. And number one is 123456. You know when you sign up to things or sign into things and it tells you, you know, you start putting in your password and it tells you whether it's poor or weak or something or strong. What's yours to your email? I think mine's good because I've been insulted previously when it's told me it's medium or weak.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I think mine's medium. Mine's medium. Medium to weak. Yeah. It was a little bit of a slap in the face, wasn't it? Yeah. Well, if any of those are your passwords, change them immediately. Immediately.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Because, yeah. Someone will steal your identity otherwise. Basically. Guaranteed. And then before you know it, your bank account will be empty. Yeah. And you'll have no money. Now, my bank account's already empty.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Who do I say about that? I've been targeted by my wife. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Well, if you're in the market for some cheap furniture, good news for you. But if you're an investor in Neato, bad news for you. Now, this is for those out of Auckland or people that didn't know, this was like an Ikea.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Like an Ikea, like a big, well, huge sort of cheap kit-setty furniture store. It's just a massive, massive building. It's absolutely. It was, if you've ever been into an Ikea, it was basically a carbon copy. It was. It was. Like even the cafeteria. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:39 The maze through the store. And the style of it as well. Like all the style of the furniture. Well, they went into receivership in December, if you remember that, and they've been looking for a buyer for, well, since then basically, and that has failed to come through,
Starting point is 00:14:54 meaning that Nita is going to be gone. They're saying by the end of next month. And so from now until they're gone, it's sale time. It is big sale time. They're going to get it all out. 60 jobs are going to be lost as a result. But if you're not one of those 60, you can celebrate.
Starting point is 00:15:11 I don't think that's a positive thing. If you're not one of the 60, it's party time. They're willing to hear me out in my quest to play paintball in a department store. You know, I put this to my people at Mitre 10. But they then would have to clean up all the paint everywhere and they're an ongoing business, so this doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:15:34 But when a massive business like this is shutting down, what I'm saying is we play a little paintball capture the flame. Who's cleaning up the paint? The next person. Whoever wants to move in, they can just paint over the paint. Or maybe it's a new aesthetic for whoever moves in there. I can absolutely see why they didn't find a buyer. I mean, the company was in a real state.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Yeah, it was. It's very sad. I guess COVID didn't help things. Because like a lot of furniture places, I think a lot of like, you know, people were waiting ages for couches. Yeah, totally. Just because a lot of the stuff comes from overseas. They owed their staff about $666, totally. Just because a lot of the stuff comes from overseas. They owed their staff about $666,000. They had $22.3 million in liabilities.
Starting point is 00:16:11 But I'm kind of fingers crossed that IKEA are just like, this is a perfect store for us. But why would they look at this model and go? Well, because IKEA have it sorted. They've got it sorted, IKEA. They've got the international modelkea They've got the international model They've got the international model They've just got to come in and
Starting point is 00:16:27 I want their meatballs Give it a makeover Yeah apparently their meatballs $3 for a full feed of meatballs Yum They might be slightly more expensive In New Zealand I'd say so
Starting point is 00:16:36 Australia has Ikea right Yeah They're ahead of us Yeah they have They have said that they are coming Well there's a big Big ass Building That you can use Either for an Ikea Or a paintball I have found online They have said that they are coming. Well, there's a big, big ass building.
Starting point is 00:16:46 That you can use either for an Ikea or a paintball. I have found online at taste.com.au in the recipes, the official recipe for Ikea meatballs. Okay. You got beef mints and pork mints. That's where they've gone right. They've mixed their mints. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I never mix mints. No. But it's good. I'll recommend, we had a meatloaf once that was like three different minced meats. Yeah. Chicken. Turkey. Oh, turkey.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Wow, okay. Harder to come by. What? Harder to come by, worth the hunt. I thought turkey was a myth in New Zealand. No one eats turkey. I know. We eat turkey.
Starting point is 00:17:18 We always eat turkeys at Christmas. Do you? Are you a turkey family? Yeah, we're a turkey family. What? Are you American? We used to have like a whole turkey. And the glory days of Christmas, the golden years, Nan used to cook a whole turkey.
Starting point is 00:17:32 It's very dry. Yeah. No, not if you cook it right. What are you, microwaving your turkey over there? You've got to baste it. You've got to slow cook that sumbitch. You've got to have some moist stuffing. You've really got to get the giblets right back up into it.
Starting point is 00:17:44 You're constantly basting the turkey. There's no need for dryness. No. I shan't have some moist stuffing. You've really got to get the giblets right back up into it. You're constantly basting the turkey. There's no need for dryness. I shan't have you speaking poorly of that poultry. If you're going to eat a bird at Christmas, you've got to eat a chicken. Yeah. You eat a chicken every day? Yeah, but you make it a bit special. Your family deserves better. Eat a giant turkey.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Flesh, fawn and megan. The podcast. ZM. COVID-19. A study out of India. What is it? Half a million Americans have died in LA. Yeah. Half a million Americans have died of COVID-19.
Starting point is 00:18:13 In a year. Yeah. That's right. So a study out of India says that people who wear glasses could be three times less likely to get COVID-19. Do you get COVID-19 through your eyeballs? Yes. You can. Yes, through your eyeballs? Yes. You can. Yes, through your eyeballs.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Is that because people that wear glasses aren't touching their eyes? Don't touch their eyeballs. Oh, yeah. So you open a door, touch a surface, itchy eye, you just give it an itch. Wait, but glasses, don't you just go under them? Yeah, you can, but maybe you'd be less likely to. But it's also particles. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:41 So it's like airborne particles go straight into the eyeball. Well, this is good because I've always wanted glasses but more of a fashion thing. Right. I thought 2020, perfect. Him too. I've had my eyes lasered. Oh, have you? And I think I need it done again. Oh, really? I'm getting back to the squint. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Light bit of a squint. Yeah, it always weds me out when I'm like, oh, I see something and I mention it. Miles off. Miles off. And people are like, can you see that? I'm just like, yes. You've got good vision. Good vision. Good vision.
Starting point is 00:19:08 This is why when we launched our amateur detective agency and PR crisis team, Slick and Eagle, he was eagle. Right. Because of the eyesight. Yeah. Whereas I was Slick, the otter. This whole time I've been, you know, covering up my nose and my mouth. Cover your eyeballs.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Cover your eyeballs. Yeah. But you can't be how the mask and the glasses, the combination doesn't work. That's what I was wondering. Fog factor. I'd like to know from glasses, whereas I've heard the fog from the masks. Apparently if there's that bendable strap that goes across the bridge of the nose. Yeah, and some people were sewing a button onto their mask
Starting point is 00:19:46 so that their glasses could sit above that or something. So they wouldn't fog. A home craft project. With their homemade masks. We've got the Prime Minister on the show this morning, 10 to 8. We'll get the latest from the COVID response. 31 staff at Kmart Botany identified as close contacts and anyone that went to Kmart between the hours of 3.30 on Friday and Saturday.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Both days. 3.30pm to 10.30 or 11pm. Because the person was working that late shift, you are all now considered casual plus contacts and are being asked to isolate and get a COVID-19 test. Probably got some good cheap bargains there. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast.
Starting point is 00:20:29 From the ZM Think Tank, this is the Top Six. Hello there. Winston Peters' retirement party when he left Parliament, the costings came out, $12,000 to the taxpayer. Yeah, I think that was put to the Prime Minister
Starting point is 00:20:44 and she was quite surprised by that. That's what some people spend on their wedding. Yeah. Well, he spent it on a ta-ta. Would it have even been that lavish? Wouldn't it have just been a function at the Beehive? Well, if it was a function at the Beehive, there goes your cost on hiring the venue.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Oh, exactly. I mean, how many people went to this thing? I don't know. Even if it was $100,000, how do you, $12,000? Well, I've got the top six expenses. Okay. Of the party. So, number six on the list of the top six expenses
Starting point is 00:21:20 of Winston Peters' leaving party. It cost a fortune to cover all the furniture in plastic so that in case anybody spilt any drinks, you could just wipe it straight off. Yeah, right. That's not cheap. That doesn't come for nothing. Number five on the list of the top six expenses
Starting point is 00:21:36 of Winston's Leaving Party, the alcohol of choice, cooking sherry. Oh, yeah. No, that's not easy to stomach. And the amount they went through, really not a cheap option, really, when you're drinking it at that scale. It's all right when you're cooking something and a little bit left over might just finish that bottle.
Starting point is 00:21:55 You have a little sip or two. I'd hate to try to match Winston one for one. On the cooking sherrys? Yeah. Yeah. He'd drink out of the table. Is he back on the smokes? I reckon he would have. Then He's drinking out of the table. Is he back on the smokes? I reckon he would have.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Then he's got back on the smokes, but now that he's done, maybe he's back on the smokes. At the party, he would have had a few darts on the balcony, I reckon. Yeah, I reckon. Just a couple of farewell Parliament darts. Number four on the list of the top six expenses of Winston's leaving party, shopping at the dairy and not the supermarket because it was closer to home. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:24 This is a classic. You pop down to one of those little super-ret. You pick up all your party supplies. It costs you a goddamn fortune. Chips will always be a dollar more than a supermarket. At the very least. At the very least. And your cheeses, you know.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Oh, yeah. They're always seven bucks for a brie. Far more expensive to shop at the dairy than the supermarket. Number three on the list of the top six expenses of Winston Peters' leaving party. It's not an actual physical expense, but it cost them because he
Starting point is 00:22:53 forgot his gold card for the senior discounts. Oh, my God. Yeah, he would have got the good discounts if he'd taken the card when he was doing all the party hiring and all the organising, but forgot that, so that's an expense. Number two on the list of the top six expenses of Winston Peters' leaving party, the pokies.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Oh, yeah. Just was going past, saw the jackpot was up. You know that has to go at any time. It could be you. Why not? And then you got more money to put into your party. But unfortunately, it wasn't. It was a bit of a chasing the dragon that day.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And number one on the list of the top six expenses of Winston's leaving party, not actually much to do with your party, but unfortunately it wasn't. It was a bit of a chasing the dragon that day. And number one on the list of the top six expenses of Winston's leaving party, not actually much to do with the party. It was being scammed out of money the day before the party by someone who called from Microsoft that needed access to your computer to make sure it was running properly. Fell for that, hook, line, and sinker.
Starting point is 00:23:38 They cleaned out the party, put the party fund, just the direct bank transfer. They do target the elderly, don't they? They do, they do, they really do. Line them up and have a go. That is today's top six. I'm about to brighten your day, and it's early. Good.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And it's about to get a hell of a lot better, because cheese is not bad for you. I think people think of cheese as like a guilty pleasure. It's fatty, gooey, cheesy. It's been likened to the same feeling as cocaine, right? Cheese, parts of the brain.
Starting point is 00:24:15 There was a couple of things that did to the brain what cocaine did. Cheese was one of them. Just gives you that feeling of euphoria. Well, I mean, a large body of research has suggested that the reputation of cheese being a fattening food, adding a lot of fat to the body, is undeserved. It's an old-fashioned, outdated perspective. Now, is this a press release from Big Cheese?
Starting point is 00:24:41 Have they funded this research? I can neither confirm nor deny. I don't actually know. So of course this is setting aside those with lactose intolerance. My apologies. I know, I've got a couple of friends that if they eat cheese,
Starting point is 00:24:54 they've really got to make a commitment to the follow-up. And some of them take a pill, you can take a pill. I'm a bit like that. Yeah, I'm allergic to dairy, but I eat it because it's so yummy. I want to live my life. Yeah, I'm allergic to dairy, but I eat it because it's so yummy. Yeah, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I want to live my life. So this research shows that cheese is neutral at worst and possibly even good for you. Because we all know that the low-fat diets, that's sort of more of a 90s, early 2000s trend, and now things like keto and adding healthy fats into you and dairy is getting a bit of a new light. Well, this did a study of like hundreds of thousands of people
Starting point is 00:25:26 and it showed that eating cheese had no effect on them at all and actually the attention needs to be on things like refined carbohydrates, sugars and all the things that we know about now. Right. And then the idea of cheese being a fattening thing is often that it's partnered with other things like pizza or burgers or stuff like that. Which is, yeah. The cheese isn't the issue here.
Starting point is 00:25:46 No. It's those refined white carbohydrates. And I guess, like anything. Wait, wait, that sounds like you're coming for bread. She was. It's not me coming for bread. The world's coming for bread. Oh, God damn.
Starting point is 00:25:57 But like, I mean, in moderation, right? Like anything. No, no. Eat a block of cheese a day. I love my words. You'll be the healthiest you've ever been. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. ZM's $50,000 secret sound.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Good morning, soundkeeper owls. Good morning, good morning. All right. The secret sound. The current jackpot, $15,000, and it's all thanks to Star. Streaming now on Disney+, including more originals like Solar Opposites.
Starting point is 00:26:33 You can learn more at DisneyPlus.com. Solar Opposites is from the guy that did Rick and Morty. It's about aliens. Aliens on Earth, yes. Are you a big Rick and Morty? Yeah, love some Rick and Morty. Love a bit of Rick and Morty. Juliana, good morning.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Good morning. All right, $15,000, the current jackpot. Now, that is yours if you can tell us what this secret sound is. Okay, I think it is a hot air balloon burner firing up. Ooh. Nice. That is a, yes. That's a good guess.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Super little sample of that gas burner. Yeah, that's right. And there is to do with the clue as well. So I put the two of them together. How does it relate to the clue? I'd rather not say it because I have another guess if that's not right. Fair. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Everyone's keeping it to their chairs. Fair enough. Now, Soundkeeper Owls, you made the sound. Have you ever been in a hot air balloon before? Or stood next to one? I have not been in one, Fletch. No. Okay, that's not a good sign, Juliana.
Starting point is 00:27:34 You don't have to go on it to record the noise, though. She could have just stood beside her. Yeah, that's true. Passionate enthusiast. We'll find out soon. Have you ever stood beside a hot air balloon? That I will tell you very soon. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Juliana. I thank you for your guess. But that is not the secret, Sam. I was so sure. She doesn't look like the kind of person that's even stood beside a hot air balloon. I don't. No, and she's young. They're quite expensive.
Starting point is 00:28:02 What does a hot air balloon rider look like? They got the goggles, don't they? She doesn't have the goggles on. I got taken up in a hot air balloon and then the pilot was hot. Wow. What were they? Yeah. Was it just you and he in the basket?
Starting point is 00:28:15 And a camera. Hot from the heat? No, hot from birth. Really? Right, okay. Okay. Well, generally they're older dudes. No, this is a young fella.
Starting point is 00:28:25 A young fella. Yeah, man. Was it a big balloon? It was one of the massive ones. Could you do a lunge? Oh, yeah, it was huge. Oh, wow. It was really big.
Starting point is 00:28:33 That's cool. Yeah. He had a big old wicker basket, didn't he? He had a big old wicker basket. All right, well, your next shot is coming up at 8 o'clock for you to guess and win $15,000. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast. ZM. Well, yesterday I spoke briefly about my YouTube tutorial
Starting point is 00:28:51 that I played to fix my bike gears because they weren't clicking. None of the gears were working. So I was like, well, I'll just... Hard to get into a bike store at the moment because everyone's biking because of the last lockdown. It's Iron Man. What do you mean Iron Man?
Starting point is 00:29:07 Someone messaged into the show after you said how hard it was to get an appointment for your bike at the bike doctor. Or the bike physio. What would you say it's more like? The bike doctor. The bike chiro. It's terminal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Because there's an Iron Man coming up and everybody's trying to get their bikes tuned in. Oh, no. I thought you were talking about Robert Downey Jr. and his character. Of course he famously rides bikes, doesn't he? I honestly did. I was like,
Starting point is 00:29:33 what does a movie have to do with anything to do with cycling? Oh, I thought you were referring to Robert Downey Jr. Robert Downey Jr.'s demanded bike still stop working and due to his power, it's happened. Oh my God, I need more sleep. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Right, so yeah, I guess it is. It's that summer kind of time. It's the season. But also, yeah, also a lot of people getting their bikes out because that was the only fitness because all the gyms were closed. So yeah, so I was like, well, I'll fix this myself. And I made it worse.
Starting point is 00:30:05 A spring came out because I turned a wiry knob thing. And then the cable case came off. And so yesterday I was like, well, I've got to at least get this back on to take into the bike store for my appointment tomorrow at the bike doctor. You've got to like push it all back in. Yeah. And then I was pushing it back in and the whole casing came off. I've made it way worse. I'm just, I'm leaving it. It was broken. You tried to fix it. You made screw in. Yeah, and then I was pushing it back in and the whole casing came off. I've made it way worse. I'm just
Starting point is 00:30:25 leaving it. So, it was broken. You tried to fix it. You made it worse. Yeah. And then you booked an appointment to get it fixed, but you wanted to pre-fix it, so now you've made the worse even worse. Yeah. That's like those people that have a cleaner, but they feel the need to clean their house before the cleaner gets there. Yes. I know. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Oh my God, I've got to tidy up. The cleaner's coming. The cleaner's coming. I don't need their judgment. If I had a cleaner, my house would be a tip when they arrived, and I'd be like, earn it. I'm like that with hotel rooms, though. I'm like, I better just clean this before I check out because – Pick up your undies at least. Well, yeah, but I'm taking my undies.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I'm not checking out without my undies. Oh, no, I mean when you go out for the day. Oh, yeah, no, I'll just make a rough pile. A rough pile. Yeah. But I thought this morning could we take some calls on those times when you've tried to fix something, but you've made it worse?
Starting point is 00:31:10 Because we've always talked about, you know, the YouTube tutorials and people learning how to fix things and then they fix it and there's all this joy. Yeah. But that doesn't happen all the time. Nah. And we could also hear this morning from like tradies who have had to come in and clean up the mess afterwards.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Someone's like, oh, I could fix this toilet. Or hairdressers who have had to fix you fixing a hairdresser. I did this last year. In between that second lockdown, you know, the Auckland one. Yeah. And I was down in the Wairarapa and I wanted to get a haircut because my hair was really gross. And they said they were so booked up and busy,
Starting point is 00:31:43 but they did have like an intern. Like an apprentice. Apprentice. And I was like, you know what? It's just trim. All good. Oh, she hacked, man. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:31:53 It was like a series of blunt hacks. And so then I went home and tried to soften it, watching a tutorial on how to give a soften, softening the ends of your hair. What do you do? Just like little clips? Yeah, like vertical clips. And then they run it through the fingers and they go,
Starting point is 00:32:04 slip, slip, slip, slip, slip. I wasn't doing that. I was sort of just grabbing bunches. But I was trying to fix it. It made it so much worse. Oh, right. Then when I got back on TV and they were doing my hair,
Starting point is 00:32:12 they said, who did your hair cut? It was me. It was a joint effort between myself and an apprentice. All right. So we want to take your calls now. 0800-DIALS-AT-M.
Starting point is 00:32:22 You can text as well, 9696. When did you try and fix something, but you only made it worse? And maybe you were trying to teach yourself on a tutorial. Fletch, it's also bike month. Oh, piss off. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. We're talking about when you tried to fix something,
Starting point is 00:32:41 but only made it worse. Your bike needed attention. You gave it attention, but you buggered it. And then you booked it in, but then you tried to fix the already broken bike to take it in and you made it worse yet again. And it's bike month. Why is everyone having a bike month?
Starting point is 00:32:57 I've got to get in for a fix. You sound like a non-cyclist. Yeah, why are you? You are a cyclist. This is your month. This is your only motor train. This is a new community to you and you're already turning your back on them. No, I'm not a cyclist, I'm just a, I just ride around. That's exactly what a cyclist
Starting point is 00:33:14 is. You just ride around on a manual two-wheeler. You're imagining I'm one of those clippity-cloppity lycra on road. You don't need to be that, stop doing that. You're one step away though. That's an elite cyclist. No, you're definitely Not an elite cyclist Of course I'm not an elite You're entry level
Starting point is 00:33:27 Yeah I'm just a bit of A ride around fitness Kind of a Look at this Cyclist I'd love to ride.neat.nz And look at how well Julia's doing
Starting point is 00:33:35 I don't know Julia I don't know why it's Popped up on their map Because she's tagged them She rode 62km For fun and fitness Oh I don't do that many Try to keep up with Julia please
Starting point is 00:33:43 I do 10 How many kilometres? 62. That's too many. She's done it multiple times, too. It's obviously her round trip to work. Good on her. Well done. I don't even know you, Julia Home. Well done, Julia Home. Anyway, because it's bike month and everybody's
Starting point is 00:33:57 doing triathlons and road biking at the moment, it's hard to get an appointment. Oh my God, I'm obsessed with Julia now. Christ, Church. She's on the website. Works in healthcare. Lovely. God bless you, Julia. So she's in Christchurch, so 62 kilometres. Flat. Flat.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Whereas I'm from Wellington. You're a hilly. I'm a hilly. You're a hilly girl. I'm a hilly girl. Biking's harder for me. Hilly girl. Old hilly. Hilly hails. Hilly haily. So we want to know When you've tried to fix Something maybe your bike But you've made it worse
Starting point is 00:34:27 Yeah Somebody messaged in Saying they were having The hedge trimmed And then the guy Who was trimming the hedge Got called away On a family emergency
Starting point is 00:34:34 Was very apologetic Yeah But half of the hedge Wasn't trimmed I attempted to trim The remaining half of the hedge And boy did I make a meal of it So then I tried to trim The half of the hedge That he'd already trimmed To match it up To the half of the hedge. And boy, did I make a meal of it. So then I tried to trim the half of the hedge that he'd already trimmed
Starting point is 00:34:47 to match it up to the half of the hedge I'd trimmed. And it went shorter. So it was a disaster. That's like a fringe. You're like, I'm just going to give it a little tidy up. Nick Minnit. Right up here. Right up on the top of the head.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Someone said, I put a slight dent in the car. And then I read online that if you pour boiling water on a dented bumper, it pops the dent out. So there I was, boiling the water, poured it on the bumper, tore all the paint off, didn't it? Only made it worse. Wow. Rosie, what did you try to fix but only made worse?
Starting point is 00:35:19 Hi, I tried to fix my lightsaber that I made at Disneyland. Sorry, sorry, sorry. There lightsaber that I made at Disneyland. Sorry, sorry, sorry. There's a lot to take in here. This is at the Galaxy's Edge, right? You can make your own lightsaber. Yeah, so I made my own lightsaber. I went to Bathurst.
Starting point is 00:35:36 It's amazing. Everyone should go. I'm so jealous. I got all the little crystals, every single crystal. I made every single colour. Oh, my God. They don't bring them out every day. We went around barter for ages, took our lightsabers, made droids, went through TSA.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Every time my bag was opened, it was like, what is this? How much did this cost you? Because that sounds like an expensive activity. Yeah. That's long. We don't talk about the price, do we? We don't talk about the experience and the love. Not when I've broken it.
Starting point is 00:36:10 We don't talk about how much the extra lightsaber costs. So you tried to fix it, and what have you done? I'm not 100% sure, but all these little wires come out, and I try to shove them back in and they just it just doesn't fit so now it kind of sounds really sad and it doesn't light up is there a lightsaber technician out there that might be able to help out yeah I don't know could you just try someone fix this microwave everyone thought being a jedi was a piece of cake. You've got to constantly maintain these lightsabers.
Starting point is 00:36:46 A lot of admin. You never see the Jedi workshop, do you, on these movies? Yeah. TV shows. Rosie, thanks. You're cool. Good luck getting your lightsaber fixed. Good luck you going into the bike shop.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Hey, welcome to Lightsabers Repair. How can I help? I don't know what's going wrong with my lightsaber, but I can't find the evil Sith if it's not, you know, popping the blade out easy peasy. I don't know what that means. You're the only one. Somebody else messaged in saying that they were staying at an Airbnb
Starting point is 00:37:12 and sat in an old-fashioned armchair, plunked my butt on it. One of the springs shot out the other end. I was like, I don't want to get in trouble. I'm going to fix this. So I used some shoelaces from my shoe and went about trying to fix this armchair. It just made it so much worse because then a spring poked out another bit and actually marked the
Starting point is 00:37:32 leather and then you could see my purple shoelaces hanging out from underneath the chair. So it didn't work. Somebody said, my relationship was broken and I tried to fix it and it only made it worse. Cut your losses. Cut your losses. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM.
Starting point is 00:37:53 ZM. ZM. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan's Community Notices. Hello and welcome to Community Notices, a segment of the show where we have a look at what's happening around New Zealand according to local Facebook pages. The drama, the weirdness, and all the things that make your local community Facebook page great to follow. Yeah. This one comes to us from Hamilton. Okay. It's great news, this one reads from the Hamilton page.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Hamilton girl that can't handle the jandal has officially paid off crashing into Video Easy in 2009 while dropping off a DVD due to her folding jandal. $40 a week since 2009. I deserve a drink. What? This is...
Starting point is 00:38:34 Wow. She went in 2009 to drop a DVD off. Yeah. Which, you know, those were the final days of the DVD. Yeah. Yeah, it was all winding down by then. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:38:44 They were about to have those sales where you could go in and buy DVDs. Yeah, I bought a bunch. Did you? Where are they now? In a box. Yeah, a box that will never be opened again. So, yeah, and her jandal folded
Starting point is 00:38:55 and thus she couldn't hit the brake and may have hit the accelerator instead, crashing into the Video Easy and causing so much damage that at $40 a week, it has taken her 11 years to pay off. Oh, my God. You're going to do some quick maths?
Starting point is 00:39:09 So what am I mathing here? 40 times 52. 40 times 52, yeah. Times 11. Times 11. $22,880. That sounds like some big windows, doesn't it? Yeah, a couple of big windows.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Maybe something that holds a bit of weight. Does it say what DVD she was dropping off? No. Interesting question. I'm a huge fan of, I'd rather drive in bare feet than jandals. I hate driving in jandals. Jandals off. I think it's a lot safer.
Starting point is 00:39:38 I know it's illegal to drive in bare feet. I'm sorry, is it? Yeah. It is in New Zealand. It is, yeah. Oh, I'm a big lawbreaker. If I'm wearing jand it? Yeah. It is in New Zealand. It is, yeah. Oh, I'm a big lawbreaker. If I'm wearing jandals or sandals. I kick them off.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I kick them off. Yeah, me too. Oh, wow. There you go. Rest in here and now. Yeah, but it's more safe, I feel, to drive in bare feet. Yeah, I've had a little sandal bit get hooked on the pedals before and gone, oh. So 2009 saw the release of such movies as Paul Blart Mall Cop.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Okay. The Hannah Montana movie. Oh, bloody good. Up. Oh, my God, if it was up. She probably had tears in her eyes too if she was returning up because that's such an emotionally devastating movie. Imagine dropping off a movie like Paul Blart Mall Cop.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I know. And it costing you $22,000 over the next 11 years. She just kept it. Yeah. Yeah. Would have been less to pay than that. But congratulations. Yeah, well done. have been less to pay than that. But congratulations. Yeah, well done.
Starting point is 00:40:27 To have that out from under you. The Mount Maunganui Notice Board has had a post. Could someone please recommend the most suitable time to spot a shark at the mount? I've never seen one in real life and would not like to go to an aquarium as I want to see them in their natural habitat and in their full glory.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Caged animals make me sad. Animal lover over here. Animal lover, but you don't want to see it at their natural habitat and in their full glory. Caged animals make me sad. Animal lover over here. Animal lover, but you don't want to see it at the mount, at the beach. No. It's a busy beach. And I don't know if this person is under some impression that sharks are on the clock. Like they punch in and then they patrol the beach
Starting point is 00:41:01 from five till six at night and then retreat back. You know the website you go to to check when the tide's high? Yeah. You also check what time the shark's going to show up. She needs to lay a bit of burley. A bit of burley.
Starting point is 00:41:12 A little bit of burley. Well, that'll get them in. But then you don't want to eat the burley at the swimming beach. No. The burley and children's toesies are very interchangeable. This post from Alex
Starting point is 00:41:24 on the Dunedin News page. Hello there. Here's my monthly post of items I'm trying to reunite with the owners that my cat Milo has brung to my house. Brilliant. Pillowcase. This was brought back this morning. There's a picture of it.
Starting point is 00:41:36 It's a black and white pillowcase. Also pictured is my kitten Enzo who doesn't steal but likes to lay on everything that Milo brings home. There's a Deadpool t-shirt, multiple pairs of socks. Oh wow. Like bundled together. Oh yeah. Which tells me the cat's in the clean laundry. Yeah. It's waiting to be
Starting point is 00:41:53 sorted. Undies, socks, a Deadpool t-shirt and a pillowcase. Law Street in Cavisham. If you're missing any of those items that's a pesky cheeky. That's hilarious. Little kitty. Fifth of a cat. Cheeky tabby.
Starting point is 00:42:08 This one from the Marlborough Cool Cat Chat. Lynn writes, can anyone recommend a plaster for a small job for some small holes? The largest in size being the same size as the top of my head. Don't ask. Drunk party, who can headbutt a hole in the wall? Yeah. Always get out the stud finder
Starting point is 00:42:30 if you're going to play that game, though, because you don't want to headbutt a joist. Oh, no, you don't. You want some wall bracing. That would really hurt. And finally today, this one from the Horofenuakapiti Wellington page. Dawn writes,
Starting point is 00:42:41 heads up to anybody at the Waikanae train station or anywhere for that matter. Today, while parked near the station, Dawn writes, What's a catalytic converter? I thought it was a joke. I thought it was like a flux capacitor. I thought it was like one of those funny things that people who know about cars would be like, come on. And it doesn't exist?
Starting point is 00:43:02 But it does exist. It's like it goes on the exhaust. It controls your emissions. It reduces toxic gases and pollutants and exhaust gas from an internal combustion engine. Look at that. They also are a bit of a target for thieves because they contain precious metals like platinum, palladium or rhodium. Is that why? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Because apparently when reported, she was told that this is a thing that's happening now. Oh, okay. You can get up to a couple hundred bucks for them at a scrapyard. I'm not promoing this. Don't hit out there now. This is not a business in the making. Scrapyards also have to take licence. Remember that time I tried to take them a whole lot of roofing iron
Starting point is 00:43:39 when we were renovating and they were like, can you just fill this out? We don't know if this was stolen. I was like, I think someone's going to know if there's a massive amount of their roof. I bet this got reported to the police and apparently can be covered by insurance.
Starting point is 00:43:50 But it is an ongoing concern. Oh, okay. You're having your catalytic converter sawn off and completely stolen. So those are today's community notices. If you see anything on your local Facebook page, that makes you go,
Starting point is 00:44:01 huh, huh, huh, huh, or, or, ah. Screen cap it and send it to ours FVMZM on Facebook A professor in the science of adult relationships, which I didn't know was a science you could take, sure
Starting point is 00:44:21 is debunking the idea that there is one true love out there for all of us. That it's an old-fashioned way of thinking and actually if you, that there are certain times people that are more likely to fall in love over and over and over again
Starting point is 00:44:39 that have the capacity to do so ad infinitum. Right. As they've called it. And that all depends on how you were shown love in your childhood. Right. It's all from that early age. And when you're a child, you form your attachment style.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I didn't know any of this. And there are three attachment styles. These don't sound great. Anxious is one. None of these attachment styles sound great. Anxious, avoidant, and secure. Those are the three attachment styles. You can go online actually and take a little test. I don't want to do
Starting point is 00:45:10 that because I know which one it is. Anxious, avoidance, and secure. So secure people are less or they're less likely to keep falling in love and having their heart broken. Fall in love, have your heart broken. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Fall in love, have your heart broken. Whereas the other end of the spectrum is anxious. Right. And those are people that think they're going to find the answer in a relationship. So the moment they have their heart broken, they'll dive into another one, fall deep in love because it's going to solve everything, have their heart broken.
Starting point is 00:45:41 And it doesn't. And it's a cycle like that. If this didn't solve my inner turmoil, maybe another one will. Yeah. And he talks about the fact that the dream person doesn't exist. There is no one person in this world that can give you everything that you need. It's an unrealistic expectation that your lover will be your best friend. So if you break up with your one true love,
Starting point is 00:46:06 there's another one out there for you. Yeah, there is. No, he's saying there's no true love. There's no one true love. No, no, he's saying that. What's he saying? What you're saying is right. If you are with someone and it's lovely and then it's not and you break up with them,
Starting point is 00:46:22 then you just have another one. Yeah. But not the one true love. The only, they say Just our love. Our love. Our love. Just some love. Love.
Starting point is 00:46:30 One group that bucks the trend older women. Okay. That happens, they say a lot of widows often realise once they're rid of their man oh sorry, rid of
Starting point is 00:46:39 once he's dead Arse. Yeah. That they don't want anyone else coming in and disturbing their newfound freedom. Oh, wow. Get it, girl.
Starting point is 00:46:49 So there you go. You can head online and check out whether you are anxious or avoidant or secure. Fletch, quarter to all of them. I don't know. A terrible cocktail. A terrible cocktail of everything. We're joined on the phone by the Prime Minister of New Zealand, Aotearoa Jacinda Ardern.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Well. What's going on? Let's discuss the elephant in the room. Bloody COVID-19, eh? Well, you know, I'm not sure I'd call it an elephant in the room. Bloody COVID-19, eh? Well, you know, I'm not sure I'd call it an elephant in the room.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Like, it's really, it's quite in phases, isn't it? And it's constant. That's what I think. Everybody thought we were done. I talked to some people and they're like, oh, no, we're good. But it's the sneakiest little bastard out. It is. It is so hard.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And it's hard for everyone to be reminded that it's still there and that it's constant. And we all know it's relative. You know, we look overseas. I was just reading in the news that the UK is excited that they might be able to have two households meet up by the end of March. They're allowed to go out and maybe have a coffee with a friend. Yeah meet up by the end of March. They're allowed to go out and maybe have a coffee with a friend.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Maybe by the end of March. We've been at 660 with tens of thousands of people. It's all relative, but it doesn't make it feel any easier for everyone. It's just that constant anxiety. So I just think we need to acknowledge it's hard. So the latest news this morning, I've just seen Ashley Bloomfield do an interview. He's saying that the cases are genomically linked.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Yeah, they are. So what that means is the cases that we have that came through yesterday, they are from the same high school where we've had those cases from a few days ago now. And we have linked them. So we know from the work of our scientists that they are linked to those original ones.
Starting point is 00:48:48 So it means that we haven't got something that's come from somewhere random and we're still trying to find whether there's lots of people in between. We know they're linked. So that's important. At this stage, you're not thinking of a level change? So that was the question I put to our experts last last night based on what we know do we need to change our alert levels and their advice was at this stage no we know where they got covered from they got it at school um from the cases we already knew about it was one of the reasons we'd asked
Starting point is 00:49:18 everyone at the school to get a test and to stay at home. And so they were amongst the group we'd asked to get tested, and that's how we found them. So look, there are some what we call exposure events. It just means places that people who with COVID have been that we're asking people who were there to get tested. So that's the Kmart and Botany. So my recollection is the Friday evening and the Saturday just gone. So we were at alert level two then. So we're hoping, of course, everyone was keeping their distance, following the rules there. But check online. If you were at Kmart Botany over the weekend,
Starting point is 00:49:57 check online for those details and what we're asking for. It'll be interesting to see what becomes of that because I'll admit, I've been to Kmart on many a Friday night and it's packed. Well, of course, they were operating at level two. And so, you know, we had people checking how many people were in the store, we're told. So and the person that was working there, those shifts, they were doing things like folding clothes, doing a bit of the click and collect work. So they weren't on a cashier, but we are being very cautious. So we want everyone who went there, we are asking at that time while that person was working to get tested.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Right. But people do seem to be a little pissed off at this, because this was a person that should have been at home, isolating, and they weren't. Yeah, and look, I absolutely understand people will feel like that. But the one thing I'd say is that even when people make mistakes, we still want them to come forward and get tested if they're sick and to tell us what's happened. And so the more that everyone piles in, the less likely people want to do the right, you know, the more afraid people become of coming forward and getting tested when we need them to. And so, look, I get people's frustration,
Starting point is 00:51:13 but we've just always got to keep in a, we want New Zealand to be a place where people will get a test. And we've just got to keep that in our minds too. But then what about on the other side of it with, like, you know, I can understand that we want people to come forward and if they get to the point where they do want to come forward, but then if people are just, and I'm not saying it is in this case, but people are playing fast and loose with the rules put in place.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Oh, yeah. And look, I mean, because one of the questions we've had is, did we move their levels too early? And the point I've made is that actually for this particular group, they weren't meant to have moved out of alert levels. We were very explicit that that school community, we needed to have different rules for a while. They needed to stay at home and they needed to be tested.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And for very good reason, as we've seen. On the flip side of that, that, you know, that demonstrates that we were asking the right questions of the right people, keeping, you know, we were right to ask people to stay home. These were a group of people that were part of our casual contacts. So the virus hasn't done anything that surprised us here. And so, you know, now it's a matter of contact tracing
Starting point is 00:52:15 around this group as well. Is there support for people who have to self-isolate? We're wondering if there is, you know, if they went to work because they have to. They don't have the luxury of not earning. And we thought about that a long time ago. We never wanted anyone to not have a reason where they felt pressured or were in a financial situation that made it hard for them to do the right thing. So we have a leave support payment that if you're told that you have to isolate and get a test, that you're financially supported to do so.
Starting point is 00:52:52 So this is a good chance for me to remind people that that exists. Yeah. Another thing people have brought up is that there are still some outstanding tests that need to be done. And we're talking, what, like a week or more later now? Is there a point where the contact tracers have done all they can? Are there more resources? Like, can it then become a police matter where detectives?
Starting point is 00:53:13 And it does. Right, okay. Yeah, so when we have trouble reaching someone, so either if we don't know where they are or we're having trouble identifying someone or someone's not responding to us, we have something called finding services. That's basically where we escalate things. So yes, we do use a service to help us locate people. It was a very small number
Starting point is 00:53:38 in this case. And remember, one of the triggers we had is no one was allowed to go back into school grounds without a negative test. So none of the people that we hadn't been able to locate or contact, which again was a very small number, were able to go back to school and they hadn't gone back to school. All right. Well, fingers crossed this doesn't get out of control from the Kmart thing. Definitely. Fingers crossed.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Our best people are out there tracking, but as long as we make sure everyone knows so again that message, if you're at Kmart Botany on Friday or Saturday afternoon evening, jump online, look at the details of those events on the Ministry of Health website, see if you're within that group and if it's going to affect your work
Starting point is 00:54:19 there is a leave support scheme so you can be looked after. Awesome, thanks for the chat. Great. Thanks everyone. Look after yourselves. Probably not as lighthearted and as ridiculous as normal,
Starting point is 00:54:30 but I'm here for it. No matter what. The barometer didn't call for that today. No, no. Awesome. Thanks. All right. I'll see you guys.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. ZM. $50,000. Secret Sound. You know,000 secret sound. Tell me what the secret sound is. Currently, the jackpot, $15,000 with ZM's $50,000 secret sound.
Starting point is 00:54:57 All thanks to Star, streaming now on Disney+, including more originals like Solar Opposites. You can learn more at DisneyPlus.com. We welcome to Secret Sound, Campbell. Good morning. Good morning. All right, so let's have a listen to the Secret Sound. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Had a good guess this morning, didn't we? A hot air balloon. A hot air balloon igniting. Yes, our last guess. Now, all the guesses that have been made that are wrong, you can find at ZMSecretSound on Instagram
Starting point is 00:55:28 along with any clues we release. Soundkeeper Owls. Hello. Yes. We have Campbell now for a guess. Campbell, $15,000 is all yours
Starting point is 00:55:38 if you can tell us what that sound is. Give it to me, Campbell. Oh, I think it's a hole punch. Hayley, just to bring you up to me, Campbell. Oh, I think it's a hole punch. Hayley, just to bring you up to speed, the first ever secret sound, everyone thought it was a hole punch, and people kept saying hole punch like it was going to magically be correct the fifth time that someone guessed it.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Then every secret sound afterwards, it's become a guess where someone thinks. And it was once, wasn't it? Yeah, we did do a hole punch once. Yeah, when Ross Boss really balls it up. Now, Campbell, knowing this, would you have called to guess hole punch if we weren't going to give you $100 for a wrong answer? 100%.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Okay, he's easy. And how long from day one of this round of The Secret Sand, you thought it was a hole punch? Oh, for so long, just on being on the gram and whatnot. It's getting to my head, guys. So what do you think is being hole punched? What, what? That sounds so far away.
Starting point is 00:56:35 The fabric of the universe? Yeah. You know, it could be anything. It could be someone doing it so aggressively on a piece of paper. I mean, yeah, fair. I've got one on my bedside table, and I've been playing with it. Fair enough. I have you.
Starting point is 00:56:48 You've seen it. Right, well, Campbell, we'll get down to it. Great guess. Bit of a gag. And unfortunately, that is not the secret sound. We have not gone with a whole punch. Again. No, again.
Starting point is 00:57:03 You took a shot. You've got to take your shots. Every wrong guess, though, does get $100. So that's all yours, Campbell. Well done. Another shot for you coming up at 11 and 1
Starting point is 00:57:12 with Georgia. And again this afternoon at 4 and 5. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. Yesterday, producer Jared said to us after the show, you may have heard this
Starting point is 00:57:23 on the podcast if you download our podcast. Shit, so many people do. So many people do. Huge numbers, Fletch. Have you seen the numbers this month? Huge numbers. Huge numbers.
Starting point is 00:57:32 14 or something. 14? That's better than last week. It was 12. Hey, you take that as a percentage. What's that percentage? That's a percentage of, that's a 20% increase, baby. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:57:43 That's return on investment. That's a whole lot of other business words Let's get this thing sold Let's retire and bathe in our millions From podcast monies I don't know how that works So, producer Jared told us that he Was wearing his girlfriend's top from Glassons
Starting point is 00:57:59 Which now you're probably imagining to be A blouse A very feminine, frilly blouse. Something like I'm wearing today, like a puffy-shouldered sort of... Yes, with a puffy-shouldered situation with a bit of lace through. But it was just like a long-sleeve crew neck top, really, and you couldn't tell. No, it just had some zooty stripes on the elbows.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Bit of spice, seismic. I didn't find the stripes to be... You know, you had it pushed up for a lot of the day. The long sleeve sort of hunched. I don't know if you were trying to hide those stripes. No, I was trying to look mask. Right, right. Mask it up a bit.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Right. So, but what did anybody else notice? Did anybody say anything? No. No? No. I flew under the radar for most of the day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:38 It wasn't until you told us that we were all like, oh. Well, why did you wear her top? Well, she tried it on. She wore it the night before for a PJ top, and I was like, no, that's cool. I want to wear it. Right, so you just liked it. I just liked it.
Starting point is 00:58:51 It was pure and simple. Did you know you were the same size? No, we did a little shirt swap, like in football at the end of a game. Right. And it fit. Oh, it was so nice. It was a good fit.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I used to have this when I was 16. I had my boyfriend, Benjamin, and we were emo. And, you know, all the rage back then was for the lads to be wearing the skinniest, tightest jeans. Oh, yeah. And quite a bit of makeup and stuff. So he would wear my clothes all the time. Wow.
Starting point is 00:59:21 It would have been a good thing about the emo phase. Everything was shareable. Hair care. Eyeliner. Eyeliner. Famously have been a good thing about the emo phase. Everything was shareable. Hair care. Eyeliner. Eyeliner. Famously shouldn't share that, but we did. Very pale makeup. You shouldn't share eyeliner? Oh, no, no. What if you were to imagine relationships with somebody?
Starting point is 00:59:35 Yeah, but you don't share eye junk with your partner. Am I doing it wrong? Am I? I always rub my wife's eyes with my eyes. But yeah, we used to share clothes all the time i don't work you share a lot of aaron stuff he's six foot six wouldn't fit me he's a big dude big unit so yeah what about as a nightie like a a big t-shirt yeah or a hoodie because girls famously always stealing their boyfriend's hoodies no but there's a lot of sleeve in there for me
Starting point is 01:00:01 a lot of sleeves walk around like a Hogwarts professor. The only thing I ever wear from Aaron's is when I buy him a shirt and it's too short in the body. Well then I'll pop that on. Fletch, you wear anything of Major Murray Fluffington's? A collar? No. Your belt? Do you share a belt?
Starting point is 01:00:21 I don't share a collar with a belt. No, I don't. Sade steals my socks but but other than that, we're wildly incompatible. What kind of socks? Like ankle socks? Ankle socks. Ankle socks. Winter, the business sock. Oh, unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Yeah. What is that, the best name for them? A business sock? I'm not conducting a hell of a lot of business. Yeah, just a plain sock. Long black sock. Just a longer sock. She'll steal my socks, left, right, and centre, but that's about all we can really share.
Starting point is 01:00:43 So we want to ask this morning if this is something that you do. Share your partner's clothing. And maybe wear your partner's clothing. And maybe not in like a cute at home way, but out and about. Like no guys are going to call up and say they wear their girlfriend's undies.
Starting point is 01:00:59 But I bet they do. 100% bet they do. Megan, who's on maternity leave, don't forget her. Just a general reminder not to forget her, but her first husband and her had the same shoe size. So remember they could share like vans and on the very rare occasion that she wore flats. U6, like Air Force Ones.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Yeah. They could share shoes. And he wore her heels and that looked great on him. Popped a couple of extra inches. Makes your calf muscles look very good. Really makes them pop. Really pops. Really makes them pop.
Starting point is 01:01:28 So shoes, anything. Do you share your partner's clothing? Yeah. Maybe you take turns wearing different things. Find something more comfortable. Same-sex couples. Maybe you have one wardrobe. We want to know what you share with your partner clothing-wise.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Producer Jared just moved in with the middie. His world's changed. He's wearing her clothes. He bought a fridge yesterday. I know, and he's got vegetables in it. And he said he's never seen so many vegetables in a fridge. And I said they'll still be there in a week, except they'll be limp and or brown and luscious.
Starting point is 01:01:59 So we want to know what? They would have evaporated, basically. Yeah. We want to know what you're sharing with your partner, clothing-wise, what works. So to start with some calls, Renee, were your boyfriends T-shirts? Yeah, I do, actually.
Starting point is 01:02:16 And they look better on me than they do on him most of the time. Yeah. I see that. I see that. When you see a girl wearing a boy's T-shirt, they've got it tied up a little bit, you know, looking cash. Oh, but you're not tying it up. What about like does it – are you stretching it in the boobs
Starting point is 01:02:32 and then he's going to put it on and it makes it look like he's got boobs because you stretched the boobs? Well, if I wear it long enough, yes, it does look like that. But most of the times I actually take photos and then they look better on me than they look on him. So he just ends up not even wanting to wear it. So you claim it in the name of boobs. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:49 I hate that when you like lend a friend a dress or something and then you see a photo and they're like, oh, this is your dress, isn't it? It's not mine anymore. They look better in it than you. They look so much better in it. Thanks, you cool, Renee. Ranui, you share your partner's clothes? Yeah, well, we share each other's clothes.
Starting point is 01:03:06 So we're both women and we don't have separate sets of drawers. We've got a drawer for T-shirts, a drawer for jerseys. It's amazing. It's a free-for-all. Oh, my God. Nothing is safe. Wow. And so if we saw you out, you could be wearing what you're wearing,
Starting point is 01:03:22 but then the next time we saw you, you could both be wearing the opposite. Yeah, 100%. What about smalls? Bras, undies and the like? Socks? We kind of have our own, but nothing safe for everything to be a game. Like if it's washing day, you might wear a pair of her undies or something like that. 100%.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Definitely. Do you need a larger like, do you have a walk-in wardrobe or do you have a large one of those tall boys or do you have twice as many clothes? Yeah, we've got like a double wardrobe, but neither is hers or hers. It's all of ours. Do you ever argue over it?
Starting point is 01:03:58 Like if there's a T-shirt that both of you look excellent and you're like, I need this today. Oh, no. If you're in it first, you win. So first up, best dressed. First in, first served. That's amazing. Brilliant., I need this today. Oh, no, if you're in it first, you win. So first up, best dressed. First in, first served. That's amazing. Brilliant. So I get up early. I get up earlier to get what I need.
Starting point is 01:04:12 So you get it done. That's stressful. First dibs on your favourite t-shirt. Rino, thanks for your call. Some text messages. Somebody said, my girlfriend and I share jerseys and t-shirts and socks, but it's more so her wearing my stuff. She's a little bit smaller than me, so she gets to wear mine,
Starting point is 01:04:30 but I can't wear all of hers. We're a same-sex couple, so that's how that works. My fiancé and I share clothes, and by share, I mean I steal all her clothes because they're more comfortable and masculine. Also, when I buy her clothes, I usually make sure it's stuff that I would wear as well. Brilliant. My husband and I have a drawer dedicated to black rugby shorts. It's pretty much what we live in, unless we need to dress up nicely,
Starting point is 01:04:54 and it's a unisex drawer. Oh, I like that. Oh, wow, okay. We both get into the rugby shorts. If you were going to put on weight, you'd want to clarify that your partner was also going to put on weight, though. Yeah, you could say, look, I've put on a fiver.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Would you mind doing the same and we'll size up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll go up to a large from a medium. Yes. Years ago, my husband and I hired costumes for a fancy dress party. I got Snow White and he got Darth Vader, but when they arrived, they weren't the right sizes. So I went as Darth Vader and he went as Snow White. Oh, so that's kind of a swap.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Yeah, that's clothing swaps there in the form of costumes. I sometimes wear my boyfriend's briefs because they make great safety shorts under my dresses. Oh, yeah. Safety shorts? I call them chub rub shorts. So it's when you're... I wear them all the time.
Starting point is 01:05:37 So when you're wearing a dress that your thighs don't rub together. Oh, I was thinking of a different sort of chub rub. Yeah. Okay. No. Yeah. Okay. No. Yeah, right. Right. Your thighs.
Starting point is 01:05:47 So that's a boxer brief. Yeah, because, you know, if you're wearing a dress, there's nothing your thighs can, if you're a woman like me, rub together. Right. So you wear like a little short, which is, honestly, looks exactly like a pair of briefs. In fact, Aaron has accidentally worn my chub rub shorts,
Starting point is 01:06:01 I think, before, picked them up and thought they were his. Would they be nude coloured, though? Would he? No, they could be any colour. I've got black ones, I've got nude ones. That's why he strides around so comfortably in those Nova ads. He's bread-robed from house to house and he's got his chub rubs on.
Starting point is 01:06:13 He's got your chub rubs on. That's changed that whole ad for me. He's wearing a woman's panties. No comment. Well, goodness me. Currently pregnant. I pretty much only wear my husband's pants. Well, goodness me. Currently pregnant. I pretty much only wear my husband's pants. Oh, yep.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Turns out as being pregnant, I'm a perfect male medium. Lots of people saying that they wear their husband's undies during pregnancies just because they're a bit bigger and it saves them buying new ones and they've got a bit of stretch. A message in that someone uses their boyfriend's hoodies but then puts their knees up in them. Yeah, when they're sitting on the couch, they pull their knees up. No. You don't stretch
Starting point is 01:06:48 out someone. If you're borrowing something, you don't stretch it out. So disrespectful. So disrespectful. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. The Podcast. ZM. Fact of the day. Day, day, day, day. Yeah. Today's fact of the day are about the presidential M&Ms.
Starting point is 01:07:16 Oh, okay. What? Anybody know what the presidential M&Ms are? Is it the bowl of M&Ms in the Oval Office? No. Is it the medals and merits of the president? Of the president, correct. No, it's a souvenir you get when you're invited onto Air Force One as a guest.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Oh, okay. They are in a packet that looks a lot like a cigarette packet, and they are red, white, and blue-coloured M&M's, and they are signed by the sitting president underneath the President of the United States presidential seal. I'll show you a little photo here. See how it looks like a pack of cigarettes? Or a pack of, like, playing cards.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Oh, yeah. That's Barack Obama's there, President of the United States seal on there, white and blue stripes at the top with some white stars in it, and those go on Air Force One when you're invited on. As a guest, you get a souvenir packet of Presidential M&M's. However, it's not always been M&M's. It was under President Kennedy, John F. Kennedy,
Starting point is 01:08:17 that he was the first one to give people a souvenir. And the reason the M&M packet looks like a pack of cigarettes is the original presidential, the signed souvenir gift from the President of the United States was a 20-pack of cigarettes with the presidential seal and the signature on it. Now, that was tradition and it carried on. And then in 1998,
Starting point is 01:08:40 1988, sorry, Nancy Reagan, Ronald Reagan's wife, said, I do not want to be on that plane. Everyone just gets on and just puffs these ciggies and the whole thing is just a tube of smoke. And I know for a fact that's not good for anybody. It blows my mind that you could have gone on a plane once and even sometimes flying like a few years back, you'd see the little ashtrays and the armories.
Starting point is 01:09:02 People smoked on planes. I know. And then they had a curtain that separated smoking from non-smoking. It blows my mind too. Even if I'm at a bar or something and I smell it, it's so strong. Imagine being in a little room in the sky. A compressed tube. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:19 And like half the plane are just dangling darts. It didn't start being banned until the 1980s. Right. So right up until the 1980s, you could perfectly legal on any flight anywhere in the world, light a cigarette, and they couldn't tell you to put it out. Regardless, they would have smoking sections, but we all know how planes work.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Where's the air rule going? If you're in the smoking section, you're still going to be blowing smoke into the non-smoking section. So it slowly started getting phased out from the 1980s. That's terrifying on lots of levels because if you've been on a plane recently like in New Zealand and you see an ashtray,
Starting point is 01:09:56 you know that plane's about 40 years old. Yeah, yeah, it's an old one. When they had to start banning it. What are you Googling? Are you Googling New Zealand specific? I was Googling if there are any airlines that still allow smoking. Russia was, Russian aircrafts were the last ones. And they were, even after the ban, it was a bit like, you do it if you want.
Starting point is 01:10:17 No one is going to tell you to stop. Be discreet. Just have it down by your side, you know. Just blow smoke that way. So 1990 in New Zealand, there was a complete ban on smoking on New Zealand airlines. But that was a government ruling to say 1990, absolutely no more. So in 1988, it got phased out.
Starting point is 01:10:37 And that's when Nancy Reagan said, well, as an alternative, why don't we keep the boxes? Because people like the look of the box. And we'll just put M&Ms in it instead. Wow. Okay. Yeah. And now candy's a huge health issue,
Starting point is 01:10:50 so I don't know what the presidential salary stacks or broccoli or quinoa or... Oh, not cauliflower mash. One keep. No. Oh, you got a bit putrid, wasn't it? Yeah, a little bit nasty. So today's fact of the day is if you're invited on as a guest onto Air Force One,
Starting point is 01:11:07 you get the presidential M&Ms, but before the presidential M&Ms, it was this presidential pack of cigarettes. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- The answer used to have been around 23 or 24, but now I look back and I'm like, no. Yeah. Like early 30s. Yeah. Early 30s. Yeah, mine used to be 19, but now I'm 31.
Starting point is 01:11:52 I actually think this is my peak. And a study has found that I'm not alone there. We are not alone. Right. Four out of 10 people in this, there was more than 10 people, 40% of people in this survey said they would not go back to their 20s,
Starting point is 01:12:07 which used to be the years, right? People would say the 20s, it's wild, it's free. They're fun. You certainly have fun, but you don't have as much, you know, like, I guess career or money or stability. Would you say? Well, that's why a combination of all these things
Starting point is 01:12:23 has found that 36 is the sweet spot. So around your mid-30s, that's the perfect age. It's where you're going to have your best years. So once you're through the partying and through the, well, not that you have to be in your 30s. That's for myself, really. Just make myself feel a bit better. You get sort of the perfect mix of
Starting point is 01:12:45 both worlds. You're young, but you're also old. You're a grown up. You're in that sweet spot. You're in that sweet spot. And there's lots of reasons behind why your 30s are the best. For women in particular, we lose a lot of our anxieties around physicality. We start to become a
Starting point is 01:13:02 woman. It's not 16 when you become a woman. We start to feel more comfortable in It's not 16 when you become a woman. We start to feel more comfortable in your own skin. We also may hit our sexual peak in our 30s. All of us. When did men hit their sexual peak? It's younger, eh? I remember always hearing that. Men, I believe, is in their late 20s.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Women, 30s to early 40s. Right. So get yourself a young strapping lad, ladies. That's what Megan did, didn't she? That's your vibe. If she was here, wasn't on maternity leave, we'd be saying something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:29 We'd definitely be digging deep in. In our 30s, we are more likely to be paid more. That makes sense. More experience. We've climbed up the ladder, haven't you? Yeah. But your personality in your 30s doesn't change as much. So you're not going through that horrible time
Starting point is 01:13:42 of trying to figure out who you are. Yes. You know you're just a grumpy, miserable, moaning pracke. Yeah, that's me. It was about 36 that I was like, oh yeah. I'm totally not even worried about that anymore. The only thing that you might look forward to in your 30s that isn't as pleasant as having great sex and loving yourself a bit more is you might get a little bit of the pre-midlife blues, they're calling it.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Right. Which is, you know, where you're sort of already worrying about being that next generation older. I thought it was going to be the metabolism thing. I've really felt that. It was like on my 30th birthday. Yeah. So I never had a great metabolism as a teenager.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Neither. Neither. You know, but then in the 20s it just got worse. But then how much fun was it seeing people who thought they were invincible and having metabolism that would keep them going forever? And then they had their mid-20s and they handbrake
Starting point is 01:14:37 and you're like, yeah. You see those high school reunion pictures? Yeah. They had it too good for too long. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast, ZM. Antarctica, New Zealand, that's... Which one is it, Antarctica or New Zealand? So Antarctica, New Zealand is what the organisation is called that looks after New Zealand's slice of Antarctica pie.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Yes. Because you know how it's all sliced up. Have you ever seen the map of Antarctica? It's sliced into pie on who looks after what bit? But there's a general agreement between all these countries that there won't be mining or any shenanigans down there that could spoil one of the great untouched.
Starting point is 01:15:18 So Antarctica New Zealand is looking for people to work in Antarctica and you don't have to be like a scientist. Yeah. You just get to go down and do many jobs. There's a whole lot of jobs. You could be a chef. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Yep. So you fly in for the summer season and you do a season's work there and then you leave. But if you're there for winter, you're there for winter, baby, because that's it. Are they having trouble filling these spots? Because I feel like this is never really put out there because there's always people wanting to go.
Starting point is 01:15:49 I feel like now their big selling point is something that we've all lived through the last year without penguins and beautiful vistas. Yeah, total isolation. Do you think that's a selling point now? Do you want to spend six months in total isolation with 50 other people? Oh, God, Natalie, when you say it like that, no.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Because you can't escape anywhere. It's not like you can go, like, I'm popping down to the shops. Yeah. I'm just going to pop out to the mall. I need to go see a movie. I'm doing my walk. Yeah. I'm doing my walk, and today, I mean,
Starting point is 01:16:18 I don't want to be rude to you guys, but I need to do my walk alone. Because what do they eat? Because they're looking for chefs. They're looking for water engineers, power engineers, half a dozen electricians, mechanics. I would still do it. alone. Because what do they eat? Because they're looking for chefs. They're looking for water engineers, power engineers, half a dozen electricians, mechanics. I would still do it. I'd love to go to Antarctica.
Starting point is 01:16:29 I would love to go. But what do they eat? Penguins. Food. No, but like. Seal. But where do they get their fresh produce from? Well, they fly it all in, don't they?
Starting point is 01:16:40 They just get it regularly. Yeah. How long is the flight to Antarctica from here? I want to say five hours from Christchurch. Oh, that's not too bad. One of those big grunty. Yeah, Hercules. Yeah, the big Hercules, Hercules.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Do they have COVID there? No. Was it a Peruvian base or a South American base had one, a little outbreak? Yes, one person had it. How on earth did that happen? I think they flew someone in and they're like, did you guys do a test? What? It was in the early days though, right? Yeah, early days. It wasn't lately.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Because it was the last continent to get COVID. It was COVID free for a while, but it is now and I'm guessing everybody has to isolate and test before they fly out for at least a few weeks. Maybe if you've got a good book you want to delve into, you know, you just don't have the mental space for it. You haven't found the time. Pop to Antarctica. That's the, you just don't have the mental space for it. You haven't found the time.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Pop to Antarctica. That's the modern world, isn't it? When the only way you're going to get a break is to fly to Antarctica to get away from your own life. And you've still got to work while you're there. No, I'm out. I'm out. You're out. The idea of work, you're out.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Are they looking for entertainers? What, you just do like a stand-up set every night? Yeah, just give them a tight 10 minute, make them laugh. Or just maybe a bit of light piano in the mess hall. Oh, I could do a little. Yeah, I could do some Beethoven. Yeah. Chopin.
Starting point is 01:17:50 I reckon that'll last five days before they exile you to some kind of outside pod. Once I've run out all my material, they'll be like, we heard that joke yesterday, Hayley. Yeah, put her in the container and tow it behind that tractor thing. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. If you enjoyed this podcast, why not give ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. If you enjoyed this podcast, why not give ZM's
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