ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 24th June 2020

Episode Date: June 23, 2020

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Hello and welcome to the Fletch, Vaughan and Megan podcast, brought to you by McCafé. Grab yourself a delicious barista-made coffee for only $4. Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Happy Wednesday. Good morning. Are you doing the word find? Yep, I started doing that one where you've got to fit all the words in, but I've gone wrong somewhere, so I've given up on that one. Have you noticed, Megan, the last couple of days

I've hidden the newspaper from Vorn? You forgot today. I forgot today. I'm really getting jazzed about the puzzle page. It's, yeah, I mean, that's a sign that you're old, right? Hey, you know what else is on the puzzle page? What's the dookie? Horoscopes.

Is it? Oh, yes. What do you want to know? Mine. I'm a Leo. What are you want to know? Mine Cancer Generosity is the mark of class It will be noble and gallant To see what matters

And what? What? It will be noble and gallant to see what matters And overlook quite a lot else These people make up some bullshit And they can't even get it sounding right. Effectiveness requires some things to be judiciously left unnoticed. What does that even mean?

That means for you to do your job in the most effective manner, some things you're going to have to ignore, like little mistakes. Oh. What one are you? Leo. Leo. People are doing their best. When you believe all are acting in accordance with their own heart and understanding,

it is hard to fault anyone. It is better to leave than hover around the object of your annoyance. What does that mean? If we annoy you, you should just leave. Okay. See ya. If you walk out of the studio today, that's why. Mine says, your thoughts have been more powerful than usual,

so be careful how you focus yourself. Realities will be quickly born of your ideas. Fill your head with enjoyable outcomes. That's assuming you can focus yourself. I'm powerful. That's what it's telling me there. Is it? I'm a force to be reckoned with.

Is it? All right, we've got the top six coming up on the show. Yes, we do. Auckland's six coming up on the show. Yes, we do. Auckland's water shortage is out of control. Are we not just pumping it in from the Waikato? That's got a big question mark beside it now.

How much can be taken? So the top six are the water sources for Auckland coming up in the top six. Alright, also today it's our big Netflix charity party. We are going to see if we can hack into the Netflix top 10 or corrupt the Netflix top 10 by getting everybody in New Zealand today, well, as many people as we can, to watch the Will Ferrell movie, Alf. Yep.

A Christmas movie. It's not the season for it, but that's why it's going to stand out even more. In the top 10. And then maybe if it makes the top 10, people who don't know about this corruption will also watch it and then Yeah. It will just feed itself.

So tonight, when you get home, maybe even make a little reminder now on your phone, watch ALF on Netflix and watch it on a couple of accounts. Even if you want to start, if you've on a couple of accounts. Even if you want to start a, if you've got a couple of dual accounts on your login, watch it on another one.

Watch them on different profiles. Leave it on when you go to bed. Yep. I'm just thinking of all the options. Start it and walk away. Yep. Play one on your phone. Yep.

While you're watching it on TV on another account. All of these things are possible. Yeah. For tonight's Netflix charty party. Next on the show. Top spelling these things are possible for tonight's Netflix charty party. Next on the show. Top spelling mistakes made in CVs. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast.

ZM. When I've had to do a CV, I've done it on my computer. I don't know how this is kind of happening, but a list of words that are commonly misspelt on CVs has been released. Because you get the squiggly line. Nah, you know, people do it in Photoshop.

Photoshop doesn't have the squiggly line. That's caught me do it in Photoshop. Photoshop doesn't have the squiggly line. That's caught me out. Dangerous. It doesn't have the squiggly. That's silliness. So you do a nice CV and it's in Photoshop. Yeah, it doesn't have the squiggly line. You'd check all the big words, right?

Wouldn't you? You just forget because you used to see. Well, you're just like sure that that's how it's spelled. Well, yeah, you're used to seeing the squiggly line. So you depend on it. And then when it's not there, it lets you down. Yeah. So the number one word that is spelt wrong

at the top of the list is initiative. I've got great initiative. Initiative. That's how I always remember it. Accept the initiative to check that this word was spelt right. It's that sneaky wee A after the T, T-I-A. Yep, initiativ. That trips people up.

Okay. Also on there, which is kind of ironic, perfectionist. How do people misspell perfectionist? Perfectionist. Perfectionist? Oh, missing T-I-O-N, missing the I. Perfectionist. Well, that's not. That's not being a perfectionist. Prefectionist? Oh, missing T-I-O-N, missing the I. Perfectionist. Well, that's not.

That's not being a perfectionist. Not at all. Achieved, the I and the E around the corner. Oh, yeah. I before E, except after C. And some other things. And lots of other things. Yeah.

Management. I don't know how you spell that wrong. Professional. It's ones where there's repeating letters or double letters. Oh, yeah. People are forgetting the double or where the doubles go. Yeah. Corresponding.

Lots of doubles of that. Oh, here is my corresponding reference. Please find corresponding something. Run a spell check. And this is also really funny. Accurate was spelled wrong. Why do people go double R rather than double C? Single C.

Yeah. Accurate. Right. Accurate. God, I don't even know where to start making a CV. Like, I think we learn in school. Neither. And then, like, my first job I had a CV,

but then ever since I just haven't had to. Grab their attention. With what? Grab their attention. How far back do you have to go with, like, your experience and stuff? Well, I'd still put in, like, all the stuff at school I achieved. You give me an industry and I'll tell you what I'd do for a CV to the stuff at school I achieved. You give me an industry and I'll tell you what I'd do for a CV

to grab their attention. Because like for example if I was going for a job in roading I'd send a road cone with my name and number on it. Okay, a barista. I'd send Because you would get CVs for a barista. I'd send like a little

hessian sack. You know, like I'd buy some hessian and I'd make it into look like a barista. Yeah. I'd send like a little hessian sack. Yeah. You know, like I'd buy some hessian and I'd make it into look like a little coffee bean sack and I'd have my name on it

and my number on the back and that would be about it. And then I'd call you and then you'd... And then I'd have a chance to sell myself. But you haven't put your history.

You don't need it, mate. Well, Megan is wondering how good you are at making coffee. Well, I just made that sack. Can you do like latte art? Well, mate, I just made a sack. What do you want? Do you want me there or not? Yeah, I don't know if that's

the way to go. Grab their attention, right? I mean, you've got to be qualified but how many CVs would just be pages of junk? Yeah, it'd be a lot of crap. Like, oh, I mean, you've got to be qualified, but how many CVs would just be pages of junk? Yeah, it'd be a lot of crap. Like, I can use Microsoft Word. Oh, congratulations, champ. Yeah.

Can you make a hessian sack with your name on the front and your number on the back and make it look like a coffee brand? It should be two pages, right? Max, right? Yeah. Just a cover letter and experience. And if you're hot, you put a photo in, but if you're not, do not. What if you believe you're hot? Well, as

long as you believe in yourself. Maybe get a general consensus first. All you need to look is friendly. You just need to look like you're a personable person. When people apply for a job at your cafe, do you tell people they haven't got the job? Because I was talking to a friend last night who's like, at the moment is like

looking for a job. And he said that's like the hardest thing. As there's so many people looking for jobs that you don't even hear if you got it. Oh, really? Only if you get sent a bunch of CVs. If you are looking into someone and you talk to them, you'd tell them they didn't get the job. But otherwise, people

could send you in CVs and you don't hear. Yeah. Because you do get so many. So he, people could send you in CVs and you don't here. Yeah. Because, yeah, you do get so many. So he was saying, like, that's the hardest thing, especially if you're applying for so many jobs. Yeah. What area is he applying in? I'm just going to help him out with a CV. Oh, my God. I don't know, like, management and HR

kind of stuff? What would you do? Send a coffee? Can you send a coffee sack? No, I'd send a brown manila folder with, and then writing on the front, I would say sexual harassment. And then a red stamp over that that says resolved. And then my name and number underneath.

No, wait a minute. Cause that looks like I've been done for sexual harassment. It does. You're not getting the job. Resolved by. No. Okay. So sexual harassment resolved and then resolved by and name a number.

Now that's a bit weird. Because famously people love it when we send in kooky things, don't they? Like French doors. It grabs their attention. It grabs their attention. It's the way to go. It's only in a market saturated

with people who will be sending boring CVs. Man, this should be on LinkedIn. Okay. He's going on LinkedIn now, isn't he. This should be on LinkedIn. Okay. He's going on LinkedIn now, isn't he? I'm opening up LinkedIn. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Remember when the story came out and it was supposed to make us, I don't know,

angry at somebody, homeless people or the government dealing with the whole COVID thing? I think the intent was we were supposed to be angry, but really we were all just like, well done. And that was the rumoured story that an Auckland homeless man joined the back of a queue of people who had just come back from overseas and were going to face two weeks of isolation and got a free two-week stay at a central Auckland hotel.

Yes. And it wasn't until he was checking out and they said, what's your forwarding address? Like, where can we get a hold of you? That he's like, see ya and skedaddles. Yeah. Now, that was the story that National MP Michael Woodhouse,

he told, he's the spokesperson for health for the opposition. Yeah. He told that on the AM show. Yeah. And everyone was like, and then everyone else was was like, what? And then everyone else was just like, well played.

Three squares and a bath. Yeah. That's what Michael Woods said. He just joined it and he spent a fortnight getting three square meals and a bath every day in the government. Oh, no. A person who really lives rough got two weeks of baths. Also very presumptuous of him to think that he bathed and not showered. Yeah, presumptuous to assume he got a room with a bath. Yeah.

Most rooms have a shower. And it's a water crisis. Yeah. He's not a monster. He just doesn't have a permanent address. Yeah. So that has been a discussion point. Yeah.

And this is brought up by the same guy, by the way, who rather than going to the Ministry of Health with the story about the two women who drove from Auckland to Wellington for the funeral to see a dying relative and didn't get COVID tested and then tested positive for it, rather than go to the Ministry of Health with that story, he decided to break it to the media.

Election year, these things happen. Yeah. So it's actually Dr. Ashley Bloomfield has said that none of these allegations about the homeless man staying in the hotel for two weeks can be verified. Hmm. So this Woodhouse needs to get some receipts. Yeah.

He said, there's like, we've looked into it and there's absolutely no verification of the story. He said his source is sound, right? Yeah, yeah. He said he won't reveal his source. Won't give any hints

as to who his source is. Because it's me. But it's you. No, I mean, I was speaking as if it was Michael Woodhouse. Oh, so he's his own source. Right.

So, yeah, Dr. Ashley Bloomfield has said, look, we would happily discuss it. But at this stage, I'm sorry to disappoint you said, look, we would happily discuss it. But at this stage, I'm sorry to disappoint you, but it seems to be an urban myth. Oh, I wanted that to be true because it was such a great story. I know.

I was rooting for the guy. And you couldn't be angry at him. Yeah. That's the burden of proof now, though, because they all, everyone will believe it because there's no proof otherwise. Everyone's just going to believe that story. Yeah, but it didn't necessarily make me

angry at anybody, you know? No, neither. Not if that was the intended purpose. I know other people already got angry because they like

being angry, but... I don't know if it's because of, like, the comments section, but I feel we're turning into a really whingey country. Like...

I think we always have been this. Have we always been this whingey? Or is it just that everyone's become in isolation and micro-specialist? What do you call them? Epidemiologist.

Yeah. Is it just that we've all become specialists in lockdown on every... Border control. Yeah, border control and everything. Pandemics. Yeah. Rather than leaving it to the actual qualified. Yeah.

People don't like leaving it to experts anymore, eh? Like scientists and doctors. It is weird. They're there. They're qualified. They've got science on their side. No, I won't have it. No, because that's not what I feel.

So there is an app that is giving away $25,000. Asterix. Asterix. Little catch. Now, this is only available on the App Store for iPhone users. And this app is called Finger on the App. And at a certain time, in seven days, I believe, 31 minutes and 48 seconds, the game will start.

So next Tuesday, Eastern Standard Time, 3 p.m. Now, everybody that has this app and wants to win the money has to put their finger on the app and leave it there. It's like an age-old radio competition to, like, win the car. You've got to hold your hand on the car. Except there's no funching this one because once you take your finger off the car, you've got to hold your hand on the car. Except there's no funching this one. Because once you take your finger off the app, you're out.

It knows. It feels on the screen. Can you just put a sausage to it? Yeah. Well, this was my idea. It was a sausage. Because did you see that thing online that someone had set up where they'd attached a sausage to a drill? And it was swiping through Tinder. Yes. And because the phone thought the sausage a drill. And it was swiping through Tinder.

Yes. And because the phone thought the sausage was a finger, it was swiping. And it was just swiping right on everybody. See, I reckon you could do a sizzler. Would a sauce get cold, though, and then it wouldn't recognise it as a sauce? You'd have a hairdryer blowing on the sausage. Right.

So that it kept it at a room temperature. Right. Every time it rotated round. Oh no, but you've got to keep this, I'm thinking of the Tinder thing, you've got to keep this down. But,

I've just read the FAQ section, because I thought the sausage thing first, I love that you guys went there too, from time to time they're going to tell you to move your finger

in a certain direction. Ah. So they've thought about this. They've thought about people cheating the system. So you've got to stay awake. Yeah. So they've thought about this. They've thought about people cheating the system. So you've got to stay awake. Yeah. So what if you had your finger on there and then you don't take your finger off, but you're

so you switch out with somebody and then their finger goes on as yours comes off. I don't know if that works because it would feel that it's different, wouldn't it? Don't know. Could just feel like you're moving your finger around. So the other thing is, is that when somebody exits the game and they need to go to the toilet or they have to leave their phone or get a phone call or whatever, because it's the other thing. Think about a phone.

I don't answer my phone anyway. No, but it would take you off the app and start ringing. It would take you out, yeah, to ring. Can you put it on airplane mode? You'd have to put it on do not disturb. Do not disturb. So when people are eliminated, they then vote on how much they think the prize money should be.

Anything ranging from zero to $25,000. Oh, so when you get eliminated, you could be shitty and spiteful, and so you're like, zero. Yep. Well, that's evil. And then what does it take at the average? And then it takes the average that people vote on, and that's surprise money at the end of the day.

Do you think everyone who gets voted out will say a low number? Absolutely. I would. Or I'd want to shaft the company and be like $50,000. Well, no, it can only be max $25,000. $25,000. But it's one of those. You want someone to get the money.

Yeah. Who's behind it? Mischief X Mr. Beast or something. They do, like, different games all the time. But, yeah, it's kind of one of those ones you don't know if you're signing up for. Yeah, so how do they make their money? Dodgy stuff. Probably ties.

Sell your information. You probably sell your login details. Right. Yeah, so maybe be wary of that. But, yeah, start sign next Tuesday if you wanted to play Finger on the App. And maybe, imagine if you did that for a whole day or two

and then you won $2. It'll go for longer than that. It'll have to go for longer than that, won't it? You would think so. ZM's Fletch Warner Megan, the podcast. From the ZM Think Tank, this is the Top Six. Hello there.

Auckland needs water. Well bad. Well bad. Something's been taken from the Waikato River, but are we concerned that too much water could be taken? Right. And the river could be affected? And it's something like 15 million litres a day.

Oh, wow. that's a lot. That's a lot. I just imagined milk bottles. Yeah, I was going to say. 15 million one-litre milk bottles, or 7.5 million two-litre milk bottles, or 5 million three-litre milk bottles. Yeah, is that every day?

Yeah. Wow. Yeah, that's how much it can... Although, to be fair, that's a big river. She's a big old river. Also, that's really brown, that river. Yes, very brown. Are we putting that through some filters?

I have this going through at least. Is that guy still selling... Pure Magic Water Distiller. That infomercial Pure Magic Water Distiller. The biggest Pure Magic Water Distiller of all time. Okay, great. Yeah. Good.

That's where it's getting it from. But, okay, so that's not happening. So I need the top six other places where I can get some bloody water from. Yeah. Good. So that's where he's getting it from. But okay, so that's not happening. So I need the top six other places where we can get some bloody water from. Okay. Number six, single-use plastic bottles. Everyone hates them and so many of them are filled up with water. So why don't we just pour all the water

from them back into the reservoir? And you could probably leave them on your window sill to condensate, to get a little bit of water in them and then drink that. Yep. That's actually a great idea. Yeah, where are the water bottle companies getting their water from?

Like natural springs in the ground, whereas Auckland's water is predominantly fed from rainfall. Well, can't we just hook up the natural spring and pipe it over to the lake? Steal the one down Putaruru. Oh, that's a beautiful spot. Yeah, the blue spring. Let's drain that. Oh, that's a beautiful spot. Yeah, the blue screen. Let's drain that.

Yeah, there's no tourists coming. Number five on the list of the top six places Aucklanders can get some water from are the clouds. I'm always seeing clouds. Yeah. And the water's in them, right? You just squeeze them. That's what the cloud is made of.

It's just not falling in the right place. So, yes, squeeze them. Put a straw in them, right? You just squeeze them. That's what a cloud is made of. It's just not falling in the right place. So, yes, squeeze them. Okay. Put a straw in them. Imagine if we found a way to squeeze clouds. Like, wring it out here. Giant hands. Giant hands.

You know who's got giant hands? God. He could wring it out. He could. Excuse me. God is a female. He could. Excuse me, God is a female. She could. So why doesn't she, just an idea, but if we're all in trouble,

why doesn't she just make it rain? Because we were given free will and we all decided to drink too much water. Oh, okay, so it's our fault. Yeah. Okay, I'm just saying if she's there. It happens, but then when something good happens, her doing. But when something bad happens, our fault. Oh, okay.

That seems awfully slanted. Convenient. Yes. But I like now you've changed it to a she and you're now blaming her. Change it back to a he. Oh, so it's all good to blame God when he's a man. Yeah. All right.

Number four on the list of the top six places Auckland can get some warm water from. Hello, we're surrounded by the sea. Oh, it's too salty. Did you want to shower

or not? Also, everybody looks good with beach hair. Oh, remember here? We could shower in salt water. It's not very refreshing, is it? Here's the thing why this was a joke, Megan.

Salt water would rust everything. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But, I mean, it would still make your hair look like you've just spent the day at the beach. With a little bit of... Feel terrible. Purely bouncing, a little crunch. Number three on the list of the top six places Auckland can get water from, icebergs.

Oh, yeah. They're made of water. They are. And they're so dangerous to boats. Yeah. Like, if they hit them, they sink. And they're always falling off Antarctica. I've seen the videos.

Those icebergs are just like flub-blomp. Yeah, they seem they're melting. Just collect up the water that's... Collect up the ones that are melting. Tow them up here. Yeah. Brilliant. And put them somewhere to melt and then collect the water at the melting. Tow them up here. Yep. Brilliant. And put them

somewhere to melt and then collect the water at the bottom. Great idea. You're welcome. Number two on the list of the top six places Auckland can get

some more water from. Sweat from the gyms. All that wasted sweat just goes into towels and on the floor. Yeah. I'm not saying it'd be great for drinking

but it would be a great liquid for say toilet flushing. Yes. Have sort of a salty, thick scent to your toilet post flush. Yeah. Get a little toilet duck in there. Yeah.

No harm, no foul. And number one on the list of the top six places Aucklanders can get some water from, dig a well. Like a big old well. Oh, yeah. Like a big... And have one of those rope, turny things. Yeah. And you go down and you get your family's

Yeah You put your family bucket on And you lower it down And then you wind it up And there's your family's Bucket of water for the day But then that big Hairy girl comes up

Oh From the ring Yeah No you're getting the grudge Oh the grudge Was she in a well? You're You're mixing your

There was a well There was a well There was a well, though, wasn't there? In the grudge. Was the grudge the well or the ring? The ring was the well. The ring was the well. The ring was the well. The circle was the well.

Right. But that girl was very wet also. I'm eyes closed for most of it. I can't verify any of this. She looked like she'd been in some liquid as well. I'm just saying no good things come from wells. No. Apart from water.

Apart from water, yes. Life-saving water. Yeah. And the story, Tiki-tiki-tembo, nosa-rembo, charu-rari-buchi, peri-pembo.

You couldn't have his amazing story without a well. Oh, yeah. That is today's top six. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. Apparently our without a well. Oh, yeah. That is today's top six. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. Apparently, our milestones have shifted. So people used to dream of, like, getting married and having kids.

That was back in the day, right? Well, yeah, that's kind of... Well, ever since I was a little girl, I always dreamed of being married. You did, didn't you? Dream of being married, having children and the white picket fence. So apparently that's not the case anymore. People are trading those dreams in for personal finances. So you laugh, but like having a financial freedom and security.

I know, I was laughing at the fact that, yeah, if you don't get married and don't have kids, you'll probably have a bit more money to get around. Those are two very expensive things. Yeah. So a study has found that the majority of adults are putting off those traditional milestones, including starting a family.

And 61% say those goals are no longer important to them. So the biggest reason for that is money. Just making sure that they are financially stable before they get to any of that stuff. That's kind of sensible, I guess. I've just googled how much it costs to have a kid in New Zealand.

It was always like a quarter of a million dollars. Well, the highest expense for raising a child in New Zealand is childcare. Costing parents an average of $8,500 a year for one child. Wow. For childcare. Yeah.

Right. So that's like pre-kindi, pre-school. The cost of raising a child from birth to 18 years old in New Zealand will set you back $285,000. Oh, to be honest, that's not as much as I thought it was. Yeah, but that's a batch. That could be a batch, couldn't it, somewhere? A small batch.

A small batch. A small batch. Still a batch. That could be a batch, couldn't it, somewhere? A small batch. A small batch. A small batch. Still a batch. Maybe not near the ocean a couple of blocks back, but still a batch somewhere. I thought it would be more than that because kids need things all the time. Clothes and food and so demanding. It'll only be going up, that amount. Right.

So they're delaying the children. But then what do they, are they having the children when they're old? Or they're just not? Or just not? Sometimes I see,

like I get exhausted with kids. And like babies are so exhausting and I see people living it until they're like late 40s and I'm like,

you're going to be so tired. Because now I'm just life tired. Yeah, yeah. And you're just tired and then add that tired to the tired. Yeah. Oh, but then I see some people who are older nailing it

and I'm like, how do you do that? Why are you not tired? That's basically me looking at like 95% of the population. Why are you not as tired as me? But maybe they are tired, they're just not showing it. Not having a tantrum like you. Yeah. Well, they're not tired enough then.

ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. So there's a news story about students that can now earn NCEA credits and learn about money management, KiwiSaver and insurance lessons. Good. That's the stuff that you should learn at school. Because that's the thing. You go to school and then you get into the real life and unless your mum or your dad teach you about these kind of insurance ins and outs

and money management, you don't really know, do you? I always remember saying to my parents, I wish I'd learnt more about that. And mum was like, it's quite daunting to put on a kid. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I remember learning well after the fact. When we were young, we didn't ever have any money because my parents bought a farm and interest rates were 20% on mortgages.

Jesus. So they were in fact- But no wonder you had to have mints every night. We had to go and mince the cows ourselves. We saved money. Which is your worst cow, Dad? 84. All right, guys, let's catch 84

and put it through the mincer. God, I thought it was bad when Mum got home and I hadn't peeled the spuds. Your Mum would get home and you had to mince the cow. She'd be like, I minced the cow! But that's nuts! Like, granted, properties didn't cost as much, but you imagine interest

rates being up to, you know, 10 times as much as what they are now. But then do you think there should be a certain age where you should learn about that in school? 100%. Like, high school, before you enter the real world, don't put it on the kids at primary, hey, kids, got no money because your parents

have ticked up a huge credit card debt? The cell interest works or anything like that. But at high school surely you'd want to be teaching that stuff to avoid it happening again or to help people into the best scenario they possibly could be in well yeah even things like kiwi say because a lot of people just sign up they get in the default kiwi saver but that's not an ideal situation for someone who's young because you want to be in a high you want to be in a high ground yeah because you've got more more time. Also, as soon as you leave, you get told you can

get a student loan and an allowance and you're like, free money, take it all. Spend it on frivolous shit. I wish I'd got Apple shares with all my student loans. Imagine that. Hindsight, eh? Or just a house.

A house would have been good. It would have been great. Yeah, it was a different... That's great, but that got me thinking about the NCEA credits. They've been in the news a lot, the old what you can earn credits for. And there was a famous story,

was it a few years ago? I found it. From 2003. In the infancy of NCEA, Cambridge High School had given students NCEA credits for picking up rubbish. Yes. That's right. See, that's good for the environment and stuff, but you should just... But it's like that's on your list of credits. You should just get a moral pat on the back rather than...

Yeah, exactly. That should just be something you do anyway as a good human. I would give you another credit for picking up rubbish if you could word it to make it sound like a profession. Like I did work experience in waste transfer management. Yeah. I'd be like, and that is actually worth two credits because that's very well worded.

Yeah. But I wonder this morning, could we take some calls on those things? The weird things you earned an NCEA credit for, like the picking up rubbish. If it's real life, if it's real experience, like the money and the KiwiSaver and everything about tax and anything like that, that's fantastic. Or even just real life volunteering.

Yeah, totally. Maybe an old folks home or providing entertainment or helping out. That's also... But some of the stuff they give credits for is weird. Yeah. Like pasture management procedures or something and you're mowing the lawn. But if you call have passed your management, two credits for you.

Ten points to Gryffindor. That's great. Well, a news story about learning finances in school, earning NCEA credits, which is fantastic. And certainly not knocking that. That's great. Great news. But we're talking about those NCEA credits that you did earn that maybe were a little peculiar at school.

Famously, the picking up rubbish NCEA credits from a couple of years ago. It seems to have got a lot more practical, what people have got NCEA credits for. Because they what? They were getting them for picking up rubbish. Yeah. So they kind of pulled it in. But it's stuff like, I got credits for a first aid course.

See, that's all right. I think that's all right. That's a practical one. Somebody said, my son got four level two credits for knife sharpening a couple of weeks back. Okay.

What? What for? That's interesting though. Was there like a sharpening disc and a... Because that's a bit of a skill. But if I could just put it in that thing on the bench and ran it through a few times.

You did that thing on the infomercial. Yeah. Yeah, so you don't need those NCA credits. They're kind of redundant, aren't they? Eric, good morning. Good morning. Now, just before we get to the NCA credits, will you be watching ALF tonight on Netflix

as we try to get it into the top ten? Yeah, I'm proud owner of a TV and a Netflix. I can put that on. Great, yes. Good to have you into the top 10. Yeah, I'm proud owner of a TV and a Netflix. I can put that on. Great, yes. Good to have you on board, Eric. Okay, so what did you get an NCAA credit for? Year 11, I switched over to Cambridge High School and they rounded up all of us failed academics

at the end of the year. Yeah. Who had almost passed their credits but hadn't. Yep. And then they just got us to pick up rubbish for an hour and gave us our last three credits. And that's where the story came from, isn't it? The picking up rubbish. Yeah.

Was, yeah. And now look at you. You've got TV and a Netflix. Mate. Yeah. Killing it. You wouldn't, I tell you what, you wouldn't if you hadn't picked up rubbish. No, I wouldn't have got a job.

That would have been a very different story. Isn't that weird that that's on your list of, like, achievements from your school? Like, isn't that just weird? They wanted to help and I could do it, so. Yeah, exactly.

Oh, yeah. It got them through. For you to say no. Sally, hey, Eric, thanks for your call. Sinead, what did you get an NCEA credit for?

I got a couple of NCEA credits for working at McDonald's. Really? Yeah, so I needed a couple ANZCA credits for working at McDonald's. Really? Yeah, so I needed a couple extra credits to pass the year, so I did a couple weeks work experience just working at McDonald's and then ended up getting a job out of it when I was like 16.

So what did you get the credits for? Getting the job or doing the work experience? Doing the work experience. I guess it probably was like maybe six credits. Two for doing something, two for doing something else and I the work experience. I guess it probably was like maybe six credits, two for doing something, two for doing something else, and I don't know. I don't really remember. It was a long time ago now.

I don't actually know if they would still do that sort of thing. Was it like a credit for making the perfect soft serve cone or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it was like that and some good fries and stuff like that. Good fries? Don't laugh at that. We need everyone who knows how to make fries making fries. Yeah, this good fries and stuff like that. Good fries? Don't laugh at that. We need everyone who knows how to make fries making fries. Yeah, this is true.

We need a bit of fry. Yeah, pretty much. Brilliant. Sinead, thanks for your call. T-Ray, what did you get an NCEA credit for? I think I got, like, about 18 credits or something like that for putting up a temporary electric fence in under five minutes. Oh, wow.

And you didn't get zapped? No. Oh, no, I wasn't plugged in. You, like, plugged it in after you. Okay. What? I stand in one wire pig-tail fence. Yeah, yeah.

You only have to put up, like, five standards and then one wire through it in under five minutes. Right. Pretty much the standard was in the class. If you got it in over two minutes. Right. Pretty much just stand the walls in the class. If you got it in over two minutes, you're an idiot. Yeah, also, did we all just brush over the fact Megan thought you put up an electric fence while it was live? I just thought there was only one choice.

Like, oh, oh, oh, God, there's credits. Next standard, T-Ray. Hey, thanks to you, cool T-Ray. Some text messages. Somebody said, I got credits for digging holes, getting my learner's license, and another one working at a fast food outlet. I learned how to use a chainsaw and got credits.

But that's all good because that's a practical skill. Somebody said, I earned 81 level 2 credits and 45 of them were under the umbrella of forestry, planting, pruning trees, using a chainsaw. I wouldn't have been able to pass without it. So it's actually... And that's what is good because, like, traditional academic qualifications aren't for everybody.

And it doesn't mean you should have a big fail beside your name after... Yeah. After high school. Sam, what did you get an NCEA credit for? We got credits for making a sandwich. Okay. What was on the sandwich? Well,

it was more so sending us back to the good old 1950s stereotype for being a good housewife. Right. Okay. But, you know,

just buy the bread and make some little ham sandwiches. So that was all that was on them, Sam? Just ham? I believe so. I did like

the cost of contamination, but, you know. the sandwich of ham, Sam I am. Did you have to put margarine on or anything? No, just green eggs as well. Just green eggs, yeah, great.

And ham. Sam I am. You wait till Fox and Socks gets here. He's going to put you in the box. Thanks, Sam. I got NCA credits

for filling out a form correctly. Okay. That's important. All I had to do was know where to write your name and the date. Oh, my. And apparently that was the points equivalent of writing a Level 2 essay. Somebody I know got the same amount of points for writing a Level 2,

credits for writing a Level 2 essay. Lots of truck driving. People saying they did truck driving courses. At school. Class two and endorsements. Yeah, because that's what they wanted to do when they wanted to leave school. They wanted to drive trucks. Imagine a 16-year-old rocking around a big Scania.

Oh, you don't go straight to the Scania. Yeah, you go straight to the Scania. Yeah, they don't go straight to the Scania. Surely you go straight to the Scania. You work your way up through the Hino before you get to the Scania. Right, okay. And don't even think about laying eyes on the Kenworth until you've done your time in the match. I'm out of truck brands now.

Somebody said, I got credits for doing a sweet drop down to Gnarly Hill on a mountain bike. That would fall under like physical education or something. I'd say so. I would imagine, right? I mean, I rode my bike to school every day. Where are my credits?

Did you tell them? No, I should have. Well then, how will they know to give you credits? Yeah, true. Next on the show, we have a plan to break into the Netflix top 10 tonight. We want you to watch the movie ALF. Yep. And then tomorrow, we want to see if we've managed to penetrate the top 10.

Watch it on all your devices, on all your different logins. But we do need to get the message out. And you've got a plan, Vaughan Smith? I do. Somebody on the phone next who can help us go multimedia. All right. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan,

the podcast, ZM. Well, the plan is tonight to get the Netflix movie, ALF, into the Netflix top 10 in New Zealand to see if we can corrupt the top 10 chart. All right, joining us on the phone, well, this morning anyway, New Zealand's favourite weather person.

Good morning, Matty McLean. What do you want? I was going to say, definitely our favourite weatherman. Weather person, actually. I don't know, because Renee's promised my dad a premium weekend spot of a photo he took up the Coromandel. Oh, really? Are you going to play them off against each other? I always do this.

I love it. Well, this playoff has been going on for about five years now. Yeah. You love it, don't you? You love it. Okay.

What do you want? Well, so... Matty. Matty, I don't know... Go on. Well, you've asked if we can chat, but you have given me absolutely no details.

And when I talked to producer Anna, she just said, it's nothing too bad. There's nothing to put my mind at ease. Well, it's a you scratch our back, we'll scratch yours situation. All right. It's mutually beneficial for both us and our employers. Okay. It's mutually beneficial for both us and our employers. Okay.

So we are trying to corrupt the Netflix chart. We're going to see, you know, the Netflix top 10, and you're like, how did some of these movies get in there? We're going to see if we tonight can get the Will Ferrell Christmas movie, Elfin. We need you to plant the idea subliminally into people's minds. We don't want you to mention Netflix because we know TVNZ also has an on-demand platform. I'd be very in trouble.

But I mean, maybe now's a great time to say watch Killing Eve, the latest season of Killing Eve on TVNZ. There you go. There you go. Lovely. See that plug we got in, Matty? A little plug there for you, Matty. We just know the weather's going to be cold and not great in a lot of areas.

So we were thinking maybe if you just plant the seed in people's minds, like, seems like a lovely night to snuggle in and watch a Christmas movie. Midwinter Christmas. Okay. Because it's midwinter Christmas today. It's the 24th of June. Practically mid-Christmas. We actually did already talk about Christmas on the show this morning.

So it wouldn't be. It wouldn't be. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And then you could say like, well, my personal favorite's Elf. Elf. By Will Ferrell. Yeah. And then John would probably say, oh, I don't know what my favorite is.

And somebody else would say Love Actually. And John would be like, oh, I never bought into it. And then it would be like something and then you can chuck Alf in again and then people will be like, well, we love Matty because he's Matty. Yeah. And so we'll watch Alf as well. True. I am adorable.

You are adorable. I don't want to, you know, I'm aware that I'm tiptoeing along the boundaries of sexual harassment when I say this, but you are my very favourite little cherub. That is very kind of you to say, and you can never tiptoe too far along that boundary. See? All right, well, Maddy, we'd appreciate it if you can get us a sneaky plug-in. So where it comes back to beneficial for you is that we will then play the clip on air,

dangerously promoting something on at the same time as us that could see our ratings dip, but that we are willing to roll the dice on. Okay, great. Can I also put a plug in for my Instagram account as well? Yes, yeah, of course. Yeah, please do. Please do. What is it?

Follow me along, Maddie McLean NZ. Right. Okay, all right. Maddie McLean. We're going to tell people to unfollow you if you don't follow through with your end of the deal, though. That, all right. Maddie, McLean. We're going to tell people to unfollow you if you don't follow through with your end of the deal, though. That's all right. No, I promise.

It'll be during my 7.30 weather cross. 7.30. Good, okay. I'm so excited. So excited about this. Thank you, Maddie McLean. Ellie Maddie. Bye, guys.

At Maddie McLean NZ. Yeah, alright, he's already got a couple of... It's like we've given him the suitcase of cash before he's given us the suitcase of drugs. I know, we're really trusting a drug dealer here. ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. We'll update you soon

on our quest to get Alf into the Netflix top 10. We did give weatherman Maddy McLean an assignment to get Alf into the Netflix top 10. We did give weatherman Matty McLean an assignment to sneak Alf into the breakfast weather. We'll update you soon to see if he's managed to do that. But now, though, we turn to our Tinder correspondent, Tinder Casanova, producer Jared. Good morning.

Who, during lockdown, I believe, 400 matches at least. What's your current? 446. 446. Pretty cool. Since lockdown, that's slowed right down it's plateaued so hard did people just give up on tinder now they're allowed out in the real world yeah i think they just gave up on me oh have you not managed to convert any of those into points

uh i'm not familiar with the points. I was trying to make a rugby analogy. No, not really. They are so masculine of you. Thank you, Vaughan. So masked. Okay, so there's been no conversions kicked. No, no conversions. But a new first.

Why is Vaughan allowed to do a rugby analogy and I'm not? Mine was seamless. I was just piggybacking on yours. Yeah, right. Okay. You said there's been a first. There's been a first, yeah. So I've seen a lot on Tinder. A lot of things. A lot of couples and people looking for love. Really? I've never seen. Couples? Yeah. Like man and woman looking

for. How do you do a couple profile on Tinder? Do you just have to have one of you? That's probably how you do a couple profile on Facebook. The first name is her name and then the middle name is and and his name as one word and then their surname. It's always like Karen and or Sharon and

someone. Karen and Rick. Yeah. Is it they're looking for like a little something to spice it up or like an extra person to add to the relationship? Something to do with the tricycle. Oh, okay. Oh, I see.

Yeah, right. So the other day I was scrolling and swiping and I came across a group of five people sharing the same Tinder account. Okay. Yeah.

How does that even work? So you swipe through and you just see different people? Yeah, so like their first picture's a group shot and then all the next pictures

are like collages and their names. So like they've done a bio in the picture. That's kind of creative. So is this like a group of people living together? Yep, yep. Their name's Flatties. Oh, okay, right.

Oh, not a cult. I thought this was a cult recruitment. So this is like the idea is you swipe and you've got to pick one of them or do you have to go and hang out with the flat? Hopefully not hang out with the flat because that sounds hard. That would be, yeah, socially that would be awkward. Like it's hard enough to do just one person on a date, isn't it,

let alone five. That would be a scary thing to walk into. But you've always enjoyed a challenge. Is that a challenge? Not for him. That seriously would be so awkward walking into a flat that you've matched with on Tinder. Yeah. And they're all just sitting there like, hello.

And they're all sitting there on the couch like, now pick one of us. Yeah. So what have you messaged since you matched? Not in a romantic sense just said hi yeah what are they what are they after so they are after like the usual thing a tinder person's after they're not after a flatmate or yeah they're after like fun times but you've got them not as a group oh but not as a group that is taking a novel approach what if you like this fascinating some of the people in the flat are hotter than,

and you don't get any attention. Surely it's a burly scenario. There's something for everyone too. Yeah, true. Like Jared might find one of them hot and I might find a different one hot. Well, one of them's a guy as well. Okay. So four girls and one guy.

Well, you'll have to just find that one hot. Yeah, right. Oh, he's shredded. Okay. He's jacked. Look at this profile in the ads. So I assume over the ad break, we're all going to gather around and say which one we'd pick.

That's surely what everybody would do in this scenario. I was going to say it's brutal, but then that's just what Tinder is. It's just brutal, isn't it? You're swiping left or right on someone just judging their photos. Yeah. Brings out the worst in people. But ask them what they want. All right.

What do you want? I super like them to ensure the match, so I'll flick them a message now. Yeah, right. Okay. You super liked them. I've never seen anything like this. It had to be done. Yeah, right.

For research. It worked for you. But then your banter's been too friendly. Are your friends owning all of these likes? It's very official. It's like I'm writing emails. Yeah, right. To whoever may concern.

Give them a message. Ask them if they'll talk to us. And we'll find out which one you can go on a date with. Cool, Bans. Or all of them. Well, I need to know what they're playing at here. What are they bloody playing at? What are your bloody shenanigans?

What's your shenanigans going on here? What do you want? Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. Well, we need your help tonight to corrupt the Netflix top 10 podcast charts by watching the movie Elf. We really appreciate you doing this. The top 10 as it stands. Okay.

Today, The Sinner. The new season of The Sinner. It's good, it's good. I've started it. Who's the handsome young man in it this time on the cover? It's not Matt Bowen. He's very handsome. It looks like a Henry Cavill.

Yeah. Looks a bit like a Henry Cavill type. He's great. I've only done two episodes, but it's gripping. Very handsome. But we're not here to promote him and his handsomeness. His handsomeness will still be there tomorrow. Denzel Washington and Mark Wahlberg's

two guns in at number two. Smallfoot, number three. The Order at number four. That looks to be werewolfy. That sexy one in at number five. The Floor is Lava in at number six. That's a new Netflix game show where it's like on single courses and they're like, three, two, one, floor is lava.

And if you're on it, then you're out. But do they get burned to death? That's only when you're at home when you're a kid. But do they get burned to death by the lava? Yeah, they do. That's why it's for kids. That sounds really great. Don't publicise good TV shows. It's not going anywhere. They're not going anywhere.

Number seven, Keanu Reeves' The Replicas. Feel the beat at eight. Lost Bullet at weekend. Yeah. Number seven, Keanu Reeves, The Replicas, Feel the Beat at eight, Lost Bullet at nine, and Snowpiercer, the series at ten. We've got to get in there. There is a gap there. We don't care where we get into. We just want to get Alf into the top ten. I want to be number one.

That'd be pretty good. That'd be pretty good. I was just doing that thing where we manage expectations. Oh, okay. Play it down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, God. So we need you to watch Alf tonight. Multiple accounts. Log in. Oh, okay. It plays down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, God. So we need you to watch ALF tonight.

Multiple accounts. Log in. Leave it running if you don't have the time to watch it. But yeah, get a party happening for ALF tonight on Netflix. Need to get the word out there. Yeah, and we thought, what better way than to challenge our good friend,

Maddie McLean, to seamlessly mention it as part of his weather broadcast on TV One's Breakfast because the weather's turning. It's midwinter, Christmas tomorrow is exactly like six months till Christmas. It's the 25th of June. So we challenged him to seamlessly mention that it seems

like a good night to snuggle in and watch Elf. Bit of wet weather. Those temperatures are dropping as well. Maybe time to have that midwinter Christmas party we were talking about or just snuggle up with a good Christmas movie maybe. What's a good Christmas movie? Elf. Elf.

Elf is my favourite. Yeah. Yeah. He looked so guilty. He looked so nervous as he shuffled back from the screen to his chair. He's like... John Campbell played right into it. Did me. I wondered if John right into it. To me.

I wondered if John knew about it. Well, maybe he ran it by John. Oh, John wouldn't be happy to know that he was... As a senior broadcaster, but also he's a bit of a prankster. Yeah. Oh, I love that. And now all those people that have no idea are going to be like, what a great idea.

I'm going to watch Elf tonight. Where is Elf? Yep, I'm in. Somebody wants to know, somebody's messaged in saying, what time are we going to watch Elf? What time is everybody watching Elf? Because we decided'm in. Somebody wants to know, somebody's messaged in saying, what time are we going to watch Elf? What time is everybody watching Elf? Because we decided that if we're going to do it collectively, we have to do it after Shorty, right?

Yeah, so 7.30. Right. It's quite late. Yeah, should we say 7.30? 7.30, it's going to be 9 o'clock before it finishes. I think we just need people watching this tonight, any time you can. Yeah.

It could be straight when you get home from work, chuck it on. Anytime. You could leave to work, leaving it playing now. I think it would still count. Yeah. Because it's 24 hour counts, right?

And play. We believe it takes the previous day's viewing. Right. We believe. Okay. So tonight, get on board and join the party from 7.30 or any time you can, stream Elf.

Are your parents going to do this? Oh, yeah. Okay. I don't know if they've ever watched Elf. This could be, I don't know how many get them on board watching a Christmas movie in the middle of the year. Yeah, but know that it's mid-Christmas. Or work on it, yeah.

If you counter any resistance. It's very family friendly. Yeah. Like, my kids have watched it for, like like the last three or four Christmases. Right. Since they were really little. Well, they're watching it after school. Forget the homework.

This is their homework. This is their homework, yeah. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Am I a bad person? We are joined on the phone today by Anonymous. Good morning. Hi. We've put on that Sunday 60 Minutes voice decoder,

so you sound a lot different, Anonymous. Okay, thank gosh for that. So you have a dilemma which you'd like us all to get our dodgy pants on and decide if you're a bad person. Yeah, a little bit. Hit us with the dilemma. So I have a friend who, when we go out for, like, dinners or brunches or whatever, always orders more than me.

Like, always orders, like, a starter and a steak and a cocktail, whereas, like, I'll just order the most basic thing, the cheapest thing. And it's getting a little bit frustrating because she doesn't realize that I'm broke and so when we go to pay she's like let's just split the meal whereas I would just prefer to pay for my own meal. We got into a tiny little bit of an argument about it. She didn't take it too well so yeah and my she argued about it that's unbelievable yeah oh I mean

she's sitting at the table she can see what she's getting and what you're getting don't aren't equal look and I mean

if it was like one or two dollars in it and it's just a split down the middle or thirds or fourth to make it easier with a whole lot of people

yeah then fine but if it's like twenty20, $25 difference, you're not paying for your friend. No. Can you hit the till first and be like, I'll pay for what I got? Hot, hot play.

Yeah, because then she's got no choice, right? Yeah, I guess that's it. How many times has this happened? Yeah, I guess that's it. How many times has this happened? Oh, every time. Oh, so we're talking maybe like 10, 15 times? Yeah, because they're one of my closest friends, so we do catch up quite often.

Right, but yeah, so she argued about it, so she doesn't think it's an issue, or she just thinks she should just go 50-50. Yeah. Have you explained to her your financial situation? Well, she kind of knows, but I guess it's a little bit embarrassing to be like, oh, I can't afford to always catch up with you. Yeah.

But I think if you explain it to her, you don't have to catch up and eat or, you know, you can catch up and do free stuff. Well, you can catch up and just pay for what you bought. Yeah, exactly. Or eat before you get there. Yeah, say, oh, I've already eaten. I've already eaten.

No one's going to go up and be like, oh, yeah, we're just going to Harvey's if all you had was the free water on the table or maybe a coffee. Or you could say you pay for it and I'll just take the bill and transfer you what I had. That could be another way of getting around it. Yeah, that works. Yeah, but again, I think she is a bad person. Yeah, well, you're not.

No, I don't think you are anonymous. No. So when you had your argument, did she kind of kick it off? Like when you said, what did you say to start the argument? So I was kind of just like, hey, like today I didn't really order too much on this particular day. And she bought quite a big lunch and a big couple of drinks and stuff. And I was like, hey, I think that we should maybe just buy our own things today. Because obviously I just got something small.

And then she's like, I just don't see what the problem is. Like, we kind of got the same stuff. Yeah, nah. Yeah, nah. Okay, so I think we need to take some calls. What do you think? Is she a bad person? 0800 dials at M9696.

And maybe you've been in this situation with friends. Maybe, like, you've found a way to deal with this, either so you just end up paying for what you had, or maybe you found yourself in this situation and you had to have a chat to someone. Because you don't want to lose her as a friend, right? No, not at all. She's closest to me.

Am I a bad person? Now, just to recap, if you're just tuning in... We just had Anonymous on the phone. She goes out on dinner dates, lunch dates with one of her very good friends who always insists on splitting the bill, except the good friend buys cocktails, drinks, entrees, mains, and she just has a meal. I think we've got to be a bit more aware of this at the moment,

especially when you might have friends that are struggling. They might not have a job at the moment. Might be living on their savings if you're going out. So it's kind of a bit harsh to lump a round of drinks on them. So yeah, she wanted to know if she was a bad person for calling her out on it and thinking it was unfair. I don't think many people are saying she's a bad person. The friend, definitely.

Zara, good morning. Good morning. Firstly, will you be watching ALF tonight on Netflix? Carly, are we watching ALF? Yes, we will be. Brilliant. Thank you, Zara. Now, do you think she's a bad person?

No, I think her friend's just taking the piss. Yeah, absolutely. The friend should be more in touch with How she's doing at the moment Yeah, my seven year old even said in the car She's like, mum, that friend is not a good friend She's just taking the piss So I think your seven year old's taking the piss

I'll tell you one thing, mum He's taking a piss She's like, mum, that's not a good friend No, she's right Seven year old to say it She needs to find new friends. Very true, Zara. Thank you. And thank you for watching ALF tonight.

Katrina, good morning. Morning. You've been in a similar situation. Yeah, yeah. So similar situation where out with a group of friends, the tab was quite substantial, but I was sober driver, so I'd only had a group of friends. The tab was quite substantial, but I was sober driver, so I'd only had a meal.

Right. And wanted to, you know, like split the bill up to who had what. Yeah. And a friend had a bit of a tanty about it. That's so rough. It's kind of, because I don't drink a lot either when I go out.

And sometimes people order like bottles and you're like, oh, no. And then you think about it the whole time. And you're like, am I going to be asked to like split this? I'm not drinking anything. Like the whole meal turns into some anxious wait for the bill like an hour later. Yeah. Yeah. So did you, how did you get around that? Oh, right.

Just be adult about it. And just, you know, just get to the tab first is always a key thing. And just, like, if it's close, you know, like everyone's had similar, split it however many ways. Yep. But if it's, like, a substantial difference, then, yeah, I reckon each person should pay for what they had. I love it.

You're like, handle it like an adult. Be the first up. Run to the till. At BYO, you're never the last. You never want to be the last because then you're picking up someone's corkage. Yep. You're always picking up a couple of people's corkage.

Pretend to go to the toilet and then to the till. Yeah, exactly. Great. Thank you, Katrina. AJ, what do you think? Is she a bad person? Yeah, I think her friend's a bad person because

she's clearly taking advantage by, like, asking her out and then just racking up this bill and being like, oh, we should split it. It just seems a bit unfair on her friend. You think she very well knows what she's doing?

Oh, I reckon there's a little bit of that going on, yeah. Thanks, AJ. I reckon she does too. She knows what she's doing. Matt, now you are probably one of the very few people that thinks that our anonymous caller is a bad person, is the bad person. Yeah, would you not just split it with your friends?

Like, you know, why lose a friend over it? She had way more, Matt. Yeah, but what goes around comes around. Like, eventually, surely you're just going to add a few more things later, aren't you? I see what you're saying, but it sounds like this is a trend. Like, it sounds like she always gets way more. And what if the friend is not, like, in a financial position to be doing that all the time? I don't know. You not, like, in a financial position to be doing that all the time? I don't know.

You're just like, okay. You tried. No, I know what you're saying, though, Matt. Yeah, but it's not worth losing a friend over. Yeah. True. Yeah, have a word with her and try to sort it out. It does, yeah.

All right, thank you, Matt. Matt's getting messages on the text message. Matt's the bad person. Somebody said that. Somebody else messaged us saying, I reckon Matt dates that woman, and he just doesn't want to have to pay for what she actually uses. This is a get-rich-quick scheme.

Yeah. It's just bleeding their friend dry. Yeah. All right, next on the show, Fact of the Day, because we just said M.O.B. Yep. It's just bleeding their friend dry. Yeah. All right, next on the show, Fact of the Day. Because we just did our moment. You're all right, mate. I'm flustered, guys. I'm flustered.

It was your birthday yesterday. It's been a big day. Yeah. Had a couple of gins last night. Well done. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Every now and then I have a realisation of what we're doing.

What, singing that? Or just this whole job? No, singing that. Oh yeah, I heard a replay of it on the radio the other day and I was like, oh, that singing's terrible. I do it for the kids. I don't care what I sound like. I'm selfless giving.

It brings joy to children everywhere. Yeah, okay. Mother Teresa over here. Savior. Some people do other stuff. I can't think of a charity. Red Cross. Some people, uh, what? Do other stuff. I can't think of a charity. Red Cross.

Some people raise money. Yeah. Some people raise spirits. All right. I want you to remember that. That was poetic, actually. That was good. Was that your own?

It was, actually. Good stuff. It's just proof that if you just talk enough, eventually something will fall out. Motivation falls out. Something will fall out. Today's fact of the day is about the shishi odoshi. Okay. You may pretty much, from what I can gather,

the bucket fountain is one of these. Shishi odoshi. It fills up with water and then it goes clank and the water falls out. But traditionally based off, you may have seen them in Japanese gardens, water would flow into a bamboo, a piece of bamboo that was propped up on another piece of bamboo, and it would fill up. And when it got too full, it would counterbalance and go, and all the water would fall out, and it would go back up,

and it would fill up with water, and it would go, again. Yeah, I've seen those. So do you, those are like a regular feature in Japanese gardens now, but originally designed and it translates to scare deer or scare boar as they were initially designed to scare away animals from eating the vegetables

and stuff being grown in the gardens. And that's why you mentioned the Wellington bucket fountain. Because I've walked past that several times, it scared the shit out of me. Yeah! A scare flitch. I didn't think that several times, it scared the shit out of me. Are you serious? A scare fletch. I didn't think that was full of water at this moment.

A shishy or de fleshy. Wow. A scare fletch. Wow. Me too, though, because, yeah, when you're going in, you must be out of earshot when it clunk-a-donk-a-donks. Or you're done with Courtney Place, and you're like, it's home time.

Home time. We're about to about this convenience store? I'm in the South Pies in Powerade. Ka-tonk! And you're like, donk! Yeah, and it scares the hell out of you. So that's the idea of them. And that was also the idea of having a few all different sizes

so it wouldn't be a repetitive, predictable pattern. It wouldn't be like, donk, donk. It would be like, donk, gap, and then bonk from a bigger, different sounding one. What's it to scare off birds in the gardens? Deers and boars, traditionally. Yeah, so wild pigs and deers because they're prey animals, so they freak out at noises and such, and they just run, and it keeps them out of the garden.

Would they not just get used to it after a while and be like, no, no, that's not going to help me? Well, that's why you would have different ones in the garden and maybe you'd turn on the tap to the different ones. And a beautiful installation as well for your garden. Yeah, not if it's outside your bedroom. It'd be tantamount to torture, wouldn't it? It'd be like your mum's bamboo wind chimes.

Oh, wind chimes. And the canaries. Good lord. Yeah, she really doesn't want people staring at her house. That's fair enough to say. So today's fact of the day is the shishi odoishi, which is a Japanese garden feature, was originally designed to scare away animals.

Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. We talked about it before. Producer Jared matched with a Tinder profile that seems to be four people using the same Tinder profile. A party profile. Yeah. What is this? A five-way?

A new and novel approach to getting a flatmate? Well, it says flatties. Do they want to, as we said before, do they want to pick a new flatmate? Well, their bio says take your pick, hashtag diversity. Yeah, it is a very diverse flat. Well, we're joined on the phone by Tash, who wants to be TikTok famous, always has snacks, and named her car Leslie, according to this Tinder profile.

Tash, hello. Hi, how are you? Very, very good. Good. Now, firstly, what do we think of Jared, producer Jared, who you match with? Now, did you swipe on him? Yeah, it was, so all the decisions are made as a flat.

We sit together, and it's a very collective experience. Oh, my God. Peter, Jared, you're a democratically elected Tinder match. I'm so stressed out right now. So, because I was at a party once and somebody put, airplayed their phone onto the TV and went through their Tinder. Oh, my God, that's ruthless. That is so ruthless.

Is that what you guys do? Pretty much. It's a much smaller screen. We usually just use a phone. Okay. We are students, so we can't really afford. Yeah. Airplay is a working luxury.

Yeah, yeah. Okay, and then it's got to be a unanimous yes from everybody. Yeah. We don't have the highest standards with the flat account. You've undone all of your good words. I mean it. So you've got individual accounts as well? We do.

Well, Manuel actually deleted his own individual account because none of us were willing to delete our own to make the flat account. Right. Oh, right. Okay. The three of us, Lucy, Pansy, and I still have our individual accounts. Right, what's the goal here with the flat account? Are you all wanting to date Jared?

Or, like, would he come around for a potluck dinner? Or do you nominate one of the flatties that's, like, more keen? We were actually wondering, because our bio is Take Your Pick, and that's because we expect people to tell us who they want who they want to choose out of the flatmates.

Jared looks so anxious and nervous and he's like shaking his head like no no no no no no no no no no. I was going to ask if Manuel wanted to go to the gym

because he's pretty cut. Oh he'd always be keen. Sweet. But as a straight man I'm just going to ask if Manuel wanted to go to the gym because he's pretty cut. He'd always be keen. Sweet. But as a straight man, I'm just going to hold my tongue on the rest. So, right. Okay. Okay. Okay.

You don't want to pick favorites. Is it also just for like they might initially, because I see one of your flatmates is labeled as taken. Is that Kiana? That's Kiana, yeah. So Kiana's taken. Are you maybe thinking you'd draw someone in maybe with Kiana, but then you would jump at the opportunity?

That's offensive. Well, I'm just saying they could use a certain sort of bait or burly, but then have a different bait, if you know what I'm saying. We've had a couple of people ask us about her, even though it says taken very clearly. Right. But more people actually ask us about the raccoon at the end of the profile. Yes.

Okay. But you don't have a raccoon? We don't. We don't. Unfortunately, our rental agreement says we can't have pets. Which includes raccoons. Yeah, you're right. It does.

Okay. So how successful has this been so far for any of you? Honestly, we've had more success with the flat account than we have with our individual account. The thing about it, I need to see more pictures of the actual flat itself. Like, what's the kitchen like? Why does that matter?

Well, you're going around to their flat. And to be shared around, passed around, like some sort of party platter. I don't want to go off its mildewy, cold, poorly insulated, which is 90% of New Zealand houses. I will say it's nice for a student flat. Okay. Well, would you like, Jared, to pop around for some drinks?

Are you having some drinks soon? Yeah, absolutely. This is great, Jared. Yeah, this is great. Well, you shouldn't have matched if you didn't want this, Jared. But the content, Fletch, the content. Oh, right, okay. But, Tash, fantastic.

Well, you've got Jared's contact details there. He'd love to pop around for some bevies and make the flat. And after hearing from you and the success that this has had, I'd imagine we might be seeing some more flat Tinder profiles popping up. Oh, let's hope so. It makes it easier for us to find one for each of us. I was going to say, what if two lots of flat profiles got together? Yeah.

Good Lord. Brilliant. Vaughn's mind is blown. It is, isn't it? You can see his mind. There we go. Tash, thanks so much for talking to us this morning. Thank you.

Bye. Flesh, Vaughn and Megan. The podcast. ZM. We're joined in studio by Frances Cook, who we spoke to at the start of the year. You set yourself the challenge of not buying any new clothes this year. How are you going?

So far, so good. Because this looks new. All of this. Actually, this is secondhand. Really? It's a really cute yellow dress and you've got a blazer on. Yeah. The blazer is new but that's

from last year so that's okay. And the boots, I actually my boots I only bought last night. A little trade me pick up and like a child I'm excited about them and wearing them today. No but they look they're like not even worn. They were never worn. There's some wrinkles around the ankle

that I put in myself this morning. Megan you don't add surprise. How many clothes have you got that don't get worn? Please don't that I put in myself this morning. Yeah. Megan, you don't have to surprise. How many clothes have you got that don't get worn? Please don't bring this up in front of Francis. This can't be a surprise to you. You could go through anybody's wardrobe bar mine because everything I have is worn to death. And find stuff that never gets worn, surely.

And people are just selling it because what's the use of it taking up space? Exactly. And I feel like everyone on lockdown decluttered. As soon as we hit level three, I just had a little scroll through Trade Me bulging at the seams. I was in heaven. It was so great. And everything's like $10, $20, $40 if you're feeling fancy.

So it was great. So, yeah, I have stuck with it all year. There was one time I was tempted. And I don't know if you guys saw the T-shirt that was going around and it had Ashley Bloomfield's face on it. The curve crusher underneath and I stared at that and I was like, ooh, and that's the closest I've come. That was kind of charity though, right?

My mum tried to talk me into it. She was like, it's for the Women's Refuge. I was like, okay, you buy one and I've sent you the link and so I'm kind of supporting women's refuge. So how much would you have spent on clothes, secondhand clothes

so far this year? I haven't done the full calculation but maybe a couple of hundred dollars and all of that stuff would have been thousands if I bought it new. Right.

Versus how much would you have spent on clothes in the first six months of last year? See, I was on such a budget that I wasn't buying much, but now I look in my wardrobe and I never have that feeling of, what can I wear today? And I don't have anything. I really, really like pretty things and feeling like I look nice.

Magpie. Yeah, total magpie. And I really think that the best way to budget is kind of hacking yourself and finding ways to still indulge what you already like doing. So it has been so cheap and I'm still indulging everything that I want to do. So I'm not breaking and I'm still managing to save and invest and do all that good stuff. And so rather than spending a couple of hundred dollars on an item, you're spending $10 or $20.

Yeah. And do you know what's the best thing as well? Is I've found that I'm experimenting more. So as you mentioned, bright yellow dress today. I used to be all black everything. Because especially if you're spending $150 on a dress, you want to make sure that you're wearing it. Whereas if it's $8, you're like, whatever.

I'll see. It'll be fine. Is that dress $8? Yes. Whereas if it's $8, you're like, whatever. I'll see. It'll be fine. Is that dress $8? Yes. Your yellow dress was $8? Yeah. Wow. Wow.

Wow. Entree me or? This was Red Cross Shop. I highly rate Red Cross Shop's Hospice and Sallie Army. That's your true bargains. You find some amazing stuff there. Go for the fancy areas, your Ponsonby's or whatever. Or if you're driving through a smaller town, there's less competition,

have a rifle through, all the good stuff is still there. To be fair, I do often stop at secondhand shops in smaller towns because people don't quite sometimes know what's in there. You find some gold in there. So I have done some op shopping. I'm proud of you. Have you got some tips for people? Yes, definitely. some gold in there. So I have done some op shopping. I'm proud of you. Have you got some tips for people?

Yes, definitely. So when you walk into an op shop, often people ask me, how do you find good stuff? And I'm like, that's not the problem. The problem is walking into an op shop and feeling overwhelmed. It's kind of piled everywhere, right? So they often sort by colour.

So to start with with target your favourite colours stuff that you know looks good on you black, blue slimming colours and it gives you a starting point so that's really good and then like I said area is so key

if you're going to an actual physical shop then that is you're targeting fancy areas small towns I swear one of the best things I ever found was in a Tiawamutu Red Cross and I love it. So, yeah. Go to like Rimuera or like affluent where they don't want their fancy stuff anymore.

Yeah, because where it's donated is often exactly where it's sold. Right. Can you haggle with these people? These people. These traders. You can on Trade Me. Right. Can you haggle with these people? These people. These traders. You can on Trade Me. Right. One of my favourite things on Trade Me is because there's so much secondhand clothes.

So the general stat is only one in five pieces of clothing gets sold secondhand. There's so much more than people are actually buying. So there's heaps. Which means perfectly lovely stuff on Trade Me can just pass in and no one's bought it. So then you send the request fixed price offer. And that's kind of like, come on, give me a shot. What do you got? And they'll often drop it five or ten bucks.

And I'm like, yes, thank you. That's postage. You're good at this. It's insane. I need you to come with me, I think. I would so do that. I just love shopping. Even if it's not for me, I think. I would so do that. I just love shopping. Even if it's not for me, I would vicariously shop with you.

Wow. So you think you'll make it to the end of the year? So far, so good. Do you know what? My biggest worry was jeans. Yeah. See, I've never found good jeans in store. It's often those, like, low-rise things that we've all now worked out

give you massive muffin top and so everyone's donated them and I don't want them either thank you. But I found some on Trade Me and they were like amazing high waisted like mum jeans and I was just like yes I want these. It's a risk. I would never

buy jeans online. It's too you've got to have them fit right. You've got to try them on. Sure, jeans yeah. And then they turned up and they're like magic jeans. They were $37. Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants. There we go. I like them more than the ones

I bought last year for $110. Wow. Wow. You've got a podcast all about money. I do. The Cooking the Books podcast where we have talked

op shopping and other budgeting hacks but also investing and mortgages and all that other good money stuff. Alright, you can check it out, Frances.

Thank you so much for coming in.