ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 25th August 2020

Episode Date: August 24, 2020

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Hello and welcome to the Fleeche Vaughan and Megan podcast brought to you by McCafe Coffee for great tasting barista made coffee on the go. And it's fair to say here behind the scenes that we are well and truly at our limits. After today's show we're just like, we need home time. We need to be let out. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what to say. I don't know what to add more.

You've got to laugh or you'll cry. That's very true. You do. And I know there's people doing it a lot tougher. Absolutely. So, you know, that's always something I like to keep at the back of my mind. There's always somebody in a worse scenario. And the day I'm like, actually, there's not, I'll probably be in a volcano.

So it'll all be over pretty quick. Yeah. I don't know if you guys know about this. Lava. Very hot. Oh, very hot. Lava. It's if the poisonous gases don't get you.

Oh, they'll often get you first. Yeah. From my experience in dying in a volcano in previous lives, in a previous life I was a triumphant explorer and a volcanologist. I lowered myself in. I was like, can't be that hot. Did you hear that audible sigh? That's Megan reaching her peak limit.

I can't be. How hot can liquid rock be? That's what I said famously last week. It's still going. Because you see, I want to go over to Hawaii, RIP Travel, and people leave cans of Coke in the path of slow-moving lava. Oh, that's fun. Shit, that looks fun.

But it's littering. They don't want you doing it anymore. Why? Because it's littering. Because people were getting rid of their household rubbish by literally just taking their rubbish bag and putting it in, and it would burn, and there was next to nothing left because it's so hot. People were getting rid of their household rubbish by literally just taking their rubbish bag and putting it in. And it would burn.

And there was next to nothing left because it's so hot. Like an aluminium can, it would just melt the can. Yeah, yeah. But it would let off all the gas or like the bad gases that would burn stuff. That's why we stopped burning things in the 90s, eh? You got it, buddy. You got it. So don't do that when you go to Hawaii if you ever do.

But it would be. If. It would be fun. Although I saw yesterday Australia were like, we're going to have a travel bubble with Hawaii. I was like, eh, shut up, Australia. You sit down. We've had enough of you, Australia. You sit. Had enough.

Sit the fuck down and listen to the big dog. All right. Enjoy the podcast. ZM. Head music. Lives here. Fletch, Vaughn and Megan. The podcast. Welcome to the here. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast.

Welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Morning. You forgot your headphones again, didn't you? Yep. Just using the ones that were here. You know what? It's good every now and then, though. Put on a pair of headphones that don't fit.

Take yourself out of your comfort zone. Appreciate what you've got. Exactly. It's a little moment to just step back and appreciate your day-to-day. Even I wanted to slap myself in the face with that comment. Yeah, take things to grana, don't you?

Appreciate what you've got. Sorry. Wow. Because I don't want to be anywhere today. I appreciate it. Oh, because you said, I don't want to be here. And I said, to be fair,

being at home wouldn't be any better. I appreciate it. Oh, because you said I don't want to be here and I said, to be fair, being at home wouldn't be any better. Really? No. You could still be asleep though. Yeah, that's true. Hey, and there's snacks there.

That's also true. That's becoming a bit of a problem in lockdown, isn't it? That's where the snacks are. And I'm like, don't buy any more snacks. Holy shit,

I filled my trolley with snacks. Only a few more snacks. Holy shit. I fill my trolley with snacks. Only a few more days. You're getting through to Monday. Monday. And of course, if you're taking public transport today. Wear a mask. Wear a mask.

Put a mask on your face. Coming up on the show, the top six. Yeah, Zac Efron's pretty serious about moving to Byron Bay. He wants to be Australian. get away from it all. Who else? Oh, because I was reading that Pete Evans wants to move to... Does he already live in Byron Bay? Because I would have thought they wouldn't have wanted him there.

Oh, and wouldn't they lap up his rhetoric? Well, yeah, because there's a lot of hippies there. Yeah, not that all hippies are 5G conspiracy theorists. Yeah, anti-vaxxer types. Yeah, but I would have thought he would have had a finger in the Byron pie. As long as he stays away from the Hemsworths, it would be really disappointing if they turn out to be anti-vaxx. No, wouldn't imagine so.

Not for. No, it just wouldn't allow it. So Zac Efron's like, well, I'm not going back to America. Yeah. Can't sort of fly. Stay in Australia. Well, and the top six is, if he's staying, he's going to need a nickname. The top six Australian nicknames for Zac Efron.

Because Australians love a nickname. They actually hate calling you by your given name. These are nicknames that would have been on his leavers jersey if he was Australian. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they'd yell it to him across the park. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Well, scientists have found that drinking cocktails or any drink out of a glass with a sloping side that goes out.

Like a martini. Like a martini. Like a martini. As margaritas kind of curved. But I always find I drink those real fast too. You will drink 30% faster. Is it because you're scared of spilling it? Probably.

You know when you go to sip a martini and it ends up down your... Yeah, you've got to go... Like you don't move it far. You sip a little bit less and then you give it a bit of a... You vacuum it rather than let gravity. Is that why? You vacuum it.

It's like when you pop a straw in a drink. Well, yeah, so they found drinkers with cocktail glasses down an average 30% more in the space of 10 minutes. More than? More than, say, if you didn't have a cocktail glass. So it's not the cocktail itself. So if you put a cocktail in a tumbler, you wouldn't drink it as fast.

Yeah, it's all down to the way that we sip from the glasses. So it's the outward sloping glasses. But you get some outward sloping tumblers. Yeah, you can. But I don't know if you drink from those faster, maybe, because they're pouring out into your mouth. Yeah. I do find those really hard to drink out of.

The martini glasses. Yeah. It all, like, rushes out at once. But then I... Because if you get, like, a martini that's got the cocktails and the stick, I take those out. So some people like to leave those in because they like to look fancy, but I find they just get in the way.

It's not enough... Cocktail-wise, it's not enough, cocktail wise, it's not enough bang for your buck. Well, because usually a martini, a martini was just straight up vodka

and you wouldn't. Martini's supposed to be strong. Yeah, you wouldn't guzzle it. You'd just be like. Well, you're not meant to. It's like sipping tequila.

Yeah. You're not supposed to do shots of it. You're not supposed to gullet. Like, you love a mojito because you get your bloody straw in there

and then you turn on the Dyson and suck the whole thing up. But you're not supposed to, like, daintily. Then they made, like, apple martinis. I know, and they got sweet and easy to drink. And then, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yum, yum, yum. Oomph, down they go. And you're off.

You're off to the races. So they found people drank around 70 mils less when drinking from a flute glass rather than a martini one. A martini one. Martini. Martini. Sorry, I've had a martini. So, yeah, that's – but I just find they're just delicious.

It doesn't matter what glass it's in. If it's a cocktail, I'm like – Next. But have you had a proper martini? Like a vodka martini or a dry gin martini? Nah. Yeah, because I've seen you neck an espresso martini. Oh, and an apple tini.

Yeah, because they're yum. But a normal martini, I wouldn't do that. You can't neck them like that. No, they're not for necking. We're just showing our classiness here, aren't we? It is weird, though. You had these cocktails that were made to be gently sipped because a mouthful of them was a bit much.

And then people were like, you know what would make this better? Sugar. And if we could just drink the whole thing at once. It's got quite a bit of alcohol in it. I said add sugar. 14 past six. Next, you can have lunch with Ashley Bloomfield, but it's going to cost you. Why is he having entrees?

You can have lunch with Ashley Bloomfield and it is going to be quite expensive for you but this is all in aid of charity so the winning bid, this is on Trade Me, the winning bid all that money will go to the Cancer Society so basically you can take him for lunch and the restaurant will be covering the costs. So you don't have to then buy lunch.

But you know, Ashley Bloomfield said he requested that he pay for his own lunch. Oh, is he just not the nicest man ever? Yeah. Because that's going to be, if we're honest, that would be a horrible lunch for him. Because people are just going to ask him everything. It's just going to be an interview the whole time. He's not going to sit there and relax. You're going to be asked a million COVID questions.

I hope Judith Collins buys it, wins it. Why do you always hang out with Jacinda? You like her better than me, don't you? He's like, well, no, I've got to be impartial. You know you're just saying that. So bidding is around $11,000 at the moment. Whoa, okay. To have lunch with Ashley Bloomfield.

That's great. How long's the auction got to go? Do you know? Oh, no, I don't know. Two, is it two days? Thursday? A couple of days. Okay.

Yeah. Thursday. And it's at 11,000. Okay, well, that's great for the Cancer Society. It doesn't detail. So it's the winner and six friends. They will go to Bellamy's in Wellington. That's a parliament place, isn't it?

Yeah. I was going to say he could surely pay for everybody's lunch, but then, like, the Cancer Society pays for it. But then I didn't know that you got to take six friends. No, the restaurant's donating it. Oh. The Cancer Society doesn't pay for it. Why is he still like, I'll pay for everybody's lunch but then like the Cancer Society pays for it but then I didn't know that you got to take six friends No the restaurant's donating it The Cancer Society

doesn't pay for it Why is he still like I'll pay for mine then Because he's supporting local business He wants to help the restaurant out I can see why everyone

was crying crying moments ago Yeah Because he wants to help the restaurant Oh well That's a good man Yeah

But six people and that's a big table It's kind of noisy And does he get to take a friend? Like a buffer friend? I don't know about him But I'd want a support person Or like Jacinda So if he doesn't know the answer

He can throw to her Yeah or Chris Hopkins I'll just pass this over to the minister There better be sign language people The top six is next on the show Yeah Zac Efron's like I'm chucking it in on Moon Australia So he's going to need an Aussie nickname

Because you know Aussies, they just don't call you by your actual name He's cancelled his flights, he's just staying Because he's been there for the last, how many months? Ages But yeah, he cancelled his flights He's like, you wouldn't want to go back there either ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast From the ZM Think Tank, this is the top six.

Hello there. Today's top six, the fact that Zac Efron's like nabble when it came to going back to the States. He's just loving living in Australia, cancelled his flights, and he's hanging around. So he's going to need a nickname. So in Australia, there's a guy called Evan Kidd. He is a psycholinguist.

He's from Melbourne. And he's currently working at the Max Planck Institute for Psycholinguistics. What is that? Psycholinguistics. I don't know. Psychological language. Hypocoristics are a certain type of nicknames that Australians give people.

He's done a massive study into how to give people Australian nicknames. We're just as bad here. I mean, we don't azzo and ozzo everything here. Flazzo, vozzo, mazzo. Yeah. Like their radio shows, that's what they call each other, don't they? You'd be mazzo. Maz.

You'd be flazzo. I'd be fla don't they? You'd be Mazzo. Maz. You'd be Flazzo. I'd be Flazzo. And Vaughn would be Vazzo. All of those are very bad. Flazzo, Vazzo and Mazzo. Good morning. Zit am. It's hard to have a Mazzo with your Flazzo Vazzo.

Isn't it? They do love it over there, though, don't they? Do you? So he's done a study. But it's like, it's intense reading. It's like a proper psychological breakdown of like how you would do it. Like, and he gives examples of names and he talks about how in Australia, even McDonald's has just called itself Macca's now.

Yeah, because they changed all their advertising to Macca's. Did they? Yeah. Yeah. Like they don't say at McDonald's. They're like at Maccas now. Yeah, because they changed all their advertising to Maccas. Did they? Yeah. Yeah. Like they don't say at McDonald's. They're like at Maccas. Wow. So if your name's Warwick, you're likely to get Walker. If you're Eric, you'll be Ecker. And Steve-O is anybody with Steve

in their name, not necessarily the guy from Jackass. And then Harry's become Hazza. Hazza. Yeah. Hazzo. Hazzo, yeah. Names which have the letter R in them, Jeremy, Catherine, Sharon, Barry, Murray,

are trouble for speakers of the non-ruric variations of English to abbreviate. And then goes into what that means and how you live in New Zealand and Australia or South Africa, like Jeremy becomes like Jezza. He's looked into the history of it. We're a weird bunch, eh? Quite amazing. So with that in mind, the top six Aussie nicknames to Zac Efron. Number six, Zepho.

Zepho. Because that's taken the Z from Zac. Yep. F and put an O on the end. Zeffo. Love it. Sounds like a Zepho, which is a car, which is also great. Yep.

Number five on the list of the top six Aussie nicknames for Zac Efron. Now, this is something that Aussies do too. And New Zealanders, I think we do this more, but we lengthen the name to make it longer for a nickname like they would call zach zachariah and that's not his name yeah like his name would just be zach like tim yeah like if someone only ever goes by tim you'd call them timothy like you'd give them the full name or like jim you'd call them jimothy sure i I call my friend Kim, Kimothy. Yeah. Sometimes you just lengthen it, associate it with a name that also rhymes.

You get yourself a classic. There's a Zachariah. Number four on the list, a classic Aussie nickname for Zac Efron is Zacho. Zacho. I can just imagine Chris Hemsworth popping next door. Zacho. Zacho.

We're going to go and bloody hang tan on some tubular. Nah. We're going to go for a surf? We're going to go for a bloody sezzo in the wazzo. Surf in the waves? On our bozzos. Yeah. Chuck on your shortos.

Because is he living in Byron Bay or he wants to move there? I think that's his favourite part. I don't know where he is exactly right now, but he's loved it. Number three on the list of the top six Aussie nicknames for Zac Efron, F-O, because it also sounds like F-off. Yeah, F-O. But, you know, really hitting the last name there. Number two on the list of the top six Aussie nicknames for Zac Efron.

This is simple here. Zaki. Zaki. Zaki. Zaki. And number one on the list of the top six Aussie nicknames for Zac Efron. Zaza. Zaza.

Zaza. Zaza. Here he is. Zaza. Get a beer in you, mate. You look like you're... What are those horrible Aussie sayings? You got to look on your face like a dropped mince pie.

Shit like that. I hope he doesn't get an Aussie twang. You got a face like a smacked ass. What does that one mean? I don't know. What does that one mean? It's red, right? I don't know.

Yeah. All right. Back to what you're doing. Flazzo, Mazzo and Vazzo. Today's top six. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM.

Lockdown level three restrictions got extended till Monday. Midnight Sunday. End of Sunday. Yeah. So when we wake up Monday. It'll be level two across the entire country. We'll all be in sync again. Yeah. I was going to sing an in sync country. We'll all be in sync again. Yeah.

I was going to sing an NSYNC song there. We're all in sync again. And do you know the first NSYNC song that popped into my mind? Backstreet's Back. Not NSYNC. I know the name. The clue was in the title. That's what I should have gone for. And then on the news

a lot of people were saying, well this weekend's going to be the weekend that bankrupts us. And I was struggling to understand because I like the wage subsidy stuff. So I turned to Megan for answers. In the group chat. For business chat. As a business owner, I've got no idea. I haven't had to deal with the wage subsidy.

And business owners have to. And this has been super challenging times. Well yeah, because they're saying that some restaurants this could be the end of them this weekend if they can't open. Like for 10 or 15% of them. We were working together and kind of of the

age to know what was happening when the global financial crisis happened in 2008, eh? I can't remember any of that. He blacked it out. Like, I was there. I remember it was bad. Yeah. And everyone was talking about how bad it was.

Yeah. And then, like, things happened. Great business analysis here. But, like, from an outsider's, a non-business owner, this is insanely worse. Oh, yeah. It's everything. Exponentially worse.

Yeah. From an outsider's point of view. So I'm imagining from the inside, it's just way, way,ely worse. Oh, yeah. It's everything. Exponentially worse. Yeah. From an outsider's point of view. So I'm imagining from the inside, it's just way, way, way worse. And very stressful. Great time to be in business. The extension from people may have assumed that the announcement yesterday would have said, yes, the two weeks or whatever it was will finish on Thursday and it'll be back to level two for the weekend. But pushing it through to the end of the weekend,

I was wondering why will it affect businesses so much more? And so what's the deal with the wage subsidy? That pays your employees. Yeah, so you apply for the wage subsidy and that pays your employees. You're obligated to pay them at least 80% of their normal wage and you can use the wage subsidy for that. Right.

But that's as far as it goes. So you can't use the wage subsidy for your lease, for your operating costs, for anything of that because each wage subsidy you apply per person. Right. And then when you pay them, it's allocated to an IRD number. Right. So you can't just be like, I'm going to use that for my lease. Right.

So that's good because you don't want people misusing the money. Yeah, and you need to support your employees for sure. But that's not going to, yeah, if you've got. But this is, yeah, this is why businesses are saying, despite the wage subsidy, they will still be under huge pressure and will bankrupt them because they still have those operating costs. We're lucky, like, our lease has been reduced by our amazing landlord. But some landlords

are being a-holes about it, aren't they? And we're in a suburban area where city centres around the country, people aren't in there. So those cafes and restaurants and other businesses

aren't getting any or as much clientele as they usually do. Right. And some can't open at all, can they? Yeah. When you're some can't open at all, can they? Yeah. When you're in a city centre,

your lease agreements and your rent is way more because you're in a prime location. Right. Except during COVID-19, it's not where you want to be. Which is not a prime location because if people are working from home, you're not getting all the office workers

and the financial workers. Wow. Gotcha. So come Monday, we're going to have to get out and support our local businesses. Yeah. That'd be great.

Because I've noticed this level three, it feels like a lot more businesses were doing the non-contact or you could buy from them, but you had to phone ahead and then it was waiting for you at the door. Yeah. The click and collect sort of vibe than last time. And like you say, it's because they might be getting the wage subsidy to pay their workers, but they've still got operating costs of leases and- And you're buying all that food and it's really hard to decide how much food to make

and then you're not selling it. So you've got food wastage and those costs are just going down the drain. And I know there's interest-free loans, but like for a smaller establishment, you're not going to guarantee that you're going to make that kind of profit to pay off that interest-free loan.

Yeah. God, I don't know how you do it. It's so stressful. I'm just stressed listening to you talk about that. No, we're in a suburban area, so people are staying at home and supporting us a lot. We're very, very lucky. But yeah, some of the city centre places, I really feel for them.

Right, so that's why. That was the explanation I got last night. Because everyone was like, what's everyone moaning about? No, I didn't say why is everyone moaning about it. I said, can you explain to me how this extra four days is going to be the make or break? And for people who are already on tenterhooks

and on the verge of that, I can now understand why. Tenderhooks or tenterhooks? What's tenderhooks? I thought it was tender hooks. It's a butcher's tip. Yeah, like tender meat. No, no, it's tenter hooks. Oh, no. I don't need this today.

Oh, is it a hook? A tenter hook is a hook used to fasten cloth to a drying frame or tenter. Oh, yeah, tenter. So that's why it's tenter. Tenter hooks for tents. Yeah. This is like when I learnt it was spitting image, not slit in half, which weighs way more. Why would it be splitting?

Splitting. You can split someone in half. It's spit and image, not spitting image. We don't need this shit today. ZM's Fletch Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Fletch Vaughan and Megan's Audio Ninja Warrior. Well, it's just like the TV show, except you don't need abs. Somebody won last night. First time in four years of Australian Ninja Warrior

that someone got to the top of Mount Midoriyama. I saw someone doing Australian one in Chucks. They're just, like, so chill. Oh, one of the someone doing an Australian one in Chucks. They're just like so chill. Oh, one of the guys that are in jeans in Jordans. I was like, no, no, come on. Get some of those toe shoes on. They've got to be better than Jordans.

Jordans are street wear. Yeah. Not obstacle course wear. Well, this is Audio Ninja Warrior and the obstacle course isn't some huge flash thing made out of scaffolding. It's just us saying subjects.

And you've got to successfully please us to advance to the next obstacle. By making the noise. Yeah. Making the sound effect. And I keep a time as well because if everybody completes it, it's the person who completed it the fastest that wins. Joining us first this morning on Audio Ninja Warrior, Ben, good morning. Good morning.

Alright, Ben, are you ready? I'm going to start my stopwatch. I'm going to start giving you topics. When we say proceed, I'll give you the next topic, alright? Let's do this one. Your time starts now. Ben, your favourite bird.

Oh, shit. You've got to make the sound effect, Ben, of your favourite bird Oh shit You've got to make the sound effect Ben Of your favourite bird Tweet tweet tweet tweet tweet Spam Make the noise of a Disney character Let it go Yes Let it go

Advance Why are we frozen too? A zip What sorry? A zip. What, sorry? A zip. A zip. A zip.

Like on a jacket, Ben. Can you hear that? Yeah. Wait, is that true? Did you make that or did you actually use a zip? Well, I'm actually wearing a jacket, so. Stop, stop, stop. No, you didn't specify that he couldn't use actual sound effects. No, of course he can't.

He's got to make noise. I don't know that you've specified that. With his mouth. Ben, we're going to start the timer again. We are going to need that sound effect to come from your mouth. Oh, cool, sure. Okay, and a zip. Zip, zip.

It'll do. A chainsaw. Yep, that'll do. And the wind whistling through a slightly open ranch slider. And he's completed it. He's completed it in one minute, three seconds and 48. All right, Ben. That was tough.

Wait there. You did well, mate. You made it through the course. Caitlin joins us for Audio Ninja Warrior. Contestant two this morning. Good morning, Caitlin. Morning. All right.

Are you ready for Audio Ninja Warrior? Yeah. Your time to beat. One minute, three seconds and then 48 of those little bits. Of a second. Split seconds? Yeah.

I don't know. Whatever those are. Alright, your time. I'll do it. You do it. Your time starts now. Your favourite bird. That's good.

A Disney character. Oh, I just can't wait to be king. Yes. A zip. Zip. Oh, pause. That sounded like a zip. She was doing it fast.

It was like zip. Yeah, it was a really fast zip. It was a really fast zip, but you just said zip. Yeah, I want to hear. I think we'll start the timer again. We're going to need another zip. Do you think? Do you think?

All right. Okay, three, two, one, starting the timer. A zip. Oh, yeah, that'll do. A chainsaw. Oh, that was really, really good. That was a good train to soar. And finally, the wind whistling through an open ranch slider. Yeah, that's a strong whistle there.

It stopped. Who do you think? I think Caitlin did it. I think Caitlin smashed it by like 20, 30 seconds maybe. 23 seconds faster than her competitor, Ben. Congratulations, Caitlin. You're today's Audio Ninja Warrior. Yay.

Well done. Ben, oh, well done. Gracious in defeat. You did make it through though, Ben, unfortunately. Just not the fastest today, but Audio Ninja Warrior. Great work, Caitlin. I don't know what this means. Assuming we'll put your details down

and maybe we'll go to some semifinals one day or something. Oh, that would be cool. That'd be pretty cool. That'd be good. All right, to the top of Mount Midoriyama. Fleshfauna Megan, the podcast, ZM. You may have heard the name Kellyanne Conway because she's been in the Trump office and the name gets bandied about.

But her daughter, Claudia, is actually seeking like, it's called emancipation. It's where you pretty much divorce your parents. Yeah. Mariah Carey told me what that word was. Because of the emancipation of Mimi. Yeah. Her album. We talked about that TikTok trend, what, last week.

You can't hurt my feelings. Yeah, you can't. Dot, dot, dot. She famously said, you can't hurt my feelings because my mum's Kellyanne Conway. She doesn't share her views on Trump. No. So much to the point where she's got the last name Conway and she looks like a younger version of her mum enough that people would be like,

Conway, oh, whoa, you look like Kellyanne Conway. That's stupid. And then she's trying to be like, oh yeah, that's my mum. But she's serious about this. She's not like some... And so Kellyanne Conway has stepped down. She's like getting out of the White House

to kind of try to sort this all out. This has become the major issue. And it's all kind of going down on TikTok and Instagram Live and stuff. So people are just sitting there being like, oh, yeah, this is good stuff. Like it's actual drama playing out. This is like reality. Hot soap opera, but in portrait, not landscape. I can watch this on my phone.

Yeah. Other than watching it play out. And we were just talking about like, we never had parents that worked for the Trump campaign. Or knew what emancipation was when I was little. Yeah. I don't know of anyone that's divorced their parents. No.

Maybe, do you know anyone that's fallen out with their parents and they don't talk to them? Ah, yeah. Yeah. Or just have a really strained relationship where, you know anyone that's fallen out with their parents and they don't talk to them? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Or they just have a really strained relationship where, you know, they don't do the normal. But they're still there just in case for the will. Because if you emancipate them, you don't get anything, right?

No, no, you're legally saying, I'm out. Yeah, right. I've no longer got a claim to. I don't know. Because wills are weird, aren't they? Yeah. Someone's like, I hadn't talked to them for 40 years, but I want my bar. Because wills are weird, aren't they? Yeah. Someone's like, I hadn't talked to them for 40 years, but I want my bar.

Got me my money. So we were wondering, not quite as intensely, but when you'd had enough and you ran away from home. When you were just like, I'm done. Yeah. That's the kid alternative to emancipation. Yeah, it is. I want out of this house.

When you're a little kid, it's kind of like packing a sook. And you just like chuck a big sook. I never even considered it as a teenager. Because I was like, how will I eat? If I leave here, I've got, I can go to my nana's house

and she will feed me. But maybe she'll feed me too much. I've got a good balance here. I can't go anywhere that's not going to feed me, and I can't go anywhere that's going to feed me too much. And plus Nana would just ring Dad and be like, he's up here. Dad would be like, I'll come get him. And so, yeah, I just never really.

I think if I was younger and I thought I'd run away from home, just go to the back garden or something. And you hide out. You're really freaking your parents out, but they just look out the kitchen window and they can see you half hiding behind something. And food was always the downfall because then you get hungry. They haven't come looking for you

and you're like, oh, stuff it. Executive intern, did you run away from home? Yes, yes I did. How old were you? Probably six. Mum trying to make me eat corn fritters. I knew it was going to be, she was forcing you to make me eat corn fritters. I knew it was going to be, she was forcing you to eat something.

Corn fritters are legit. I still, whenever I see one, I'm like, get out of here. What's wrong with you, eh? What is it? No wonder your mum just. I love a corn fritter. Me, gross. Because I had to eat them for breakfast the next morning.

I like the taste, the smell now. I'm like, anyway. Did they get reheated for breakfast yeah they did that's good where did you run away to so we used to live next to a primary school mmm and I thought that was just like amazed that no one would ever find me yeah so I hit at the playground lo and behold about five minutes later mom's like come on how. Oh, at least she came after you five minutes later. The great escape, eh? How did she know? Because there was a big playground five minutes walk away.

Right, so magnets for kids. Yeah. She'll probably be there, and I was. And there you were. She's good, she's real good. On the slide. She hadn't had to bust out a detective kit to solve that crime, had she? We want to take your calls this morning. When you had enough

with your parents as a kid and you were like, that's it, I'm running away from home. This is the straw that broke the camel's back. How far did you get? Maybe you made

a big break for it. Yeah, somebody's messaged in that they, yeah, they made a proper like intercity break for it. Oh, wow.

Intercity. Yeah. As a teenager, they were gone. Well, how far did you get? Maybe it was only down the road to the playground. Some funny stories coming through. See, some of these are funny and some of them are intense.

Oh, okay. Some text messages. When I was at primary school, me and my best friend talked about running away. I had bags of clothes packed under my bed, ready to go. Yeah. That's the other thing. You're like, I don't know, as a parent now, you make your kid's bed and you'd be like,

oh, what's this under here? Oh, a bag full of clothes. What you got planned with that? And then one day we decided tonight was the night. Oh, okay. I chickened out and I got to school the next day. I got called to the principal's office to ask where they thought my best friend might have gone. As she did run away the night before, I got called to the principal's office to ask where they thought my best friend might have gone.

As she did run away the night before, I felt really bad for deserting her. I need to know how that story ended. Yeah, like where's the friend now? Are they back? Like, did they come back? Kate, why did you run away from home? Oh God, this is super embarrassing

because I'm now on the bus. So I ran away from home because I didn't want to clean my room. I was probably somewhere in the, like, six to eight range. Yeah. So I didn't want to clean my room, didn't want to do anything like that. So I decided, by grace, I'm moving out of home and I'm moving in with the next door neighbours who were, they had a girl who was a month older than me, so my best friend at the time. So I packed absolutely everything up, packed it all into boxes, moved it all out, moved it onto the doorstep.

While I was packing up, mum and dad made me tell them where I was moving to. So if I'm moving out of home, I have to... So I told them that. So funnily enough, I'd called and given the neighbours the heads up this is what was happening. OK. And so I packed absolutely everything up and then moved next door to them.

OK. And you said everything else tidied your room. Yeah, so then I had to come home, and funnily enough, I unpacked all of the boxes, and my room was then really tidy after that. I had to unpack and put them away at the mall. Brilliant. Oh, that's so good, Kate.

Thanks for your call. Tash, when did you run away from home? I was 17. Okay, and what made you run away from home? Mum and Dad wouldn't let me go to a party and they didn't like my boyfriend. How long did you last? I never went back.

I'm still with the guy. We've been together for 12 years now. Whoa! Have you made peace with your parents? Yeah, it took like a couple months, and they saw that I wasn't going to come back and said sorry, basically. Wow.

And you're still with them. That's great. So stubborn. You are very stubborn. Are you a stubborn person? What do you reckon? Maybe a little bit. Hey, Tash, thanks for your call.

Freya, when did you run away from home? I didn't want to tidy my room when my mum told me to. So I got my little bag, which I had behind the door, which I don't have now, but when I was about four. And I went down and I got as far as the driveway until my mother looked out the window and saw me but when I was about four. And I went down and I got as far as the driveway until my mother looked out the window and saw me and told me to come back in and tidy my room.

I stole the peanut butter jar as well and put that in my bag. Yeah, because you need the peanut butter for your travels. So this is about when you were four. How old are you now? I'm 10. Okay, still got those teenage years ahead of you. Yeah. Good stuff.

Start stockpiling the peanut butter jars for her. That's a good idea. Yeah. Okay. That's a good idea. Ali, when did you run away from home? It wasn't me. It was my brother.

Okay. When he was 14, he had been told by my dad after my parents separated that he wasn't allowed to go on his holiday out to my grandparents' house in Raglan, which we live in Hamilton and they were my mum's parents. So he decided through that, I'm still going to go. So he packed his bag and packed his fishing rod and made a bike using bits and pieces from other bikes. So he had a bike that worked and then biked out to Raglan.

He actually made it to Raglan? Yeah, yeah. On his major bike. On his Frankenstein bike. On his Frankenstein bike, yeah. Wow. That's all. You couldn't even be angry,

could you? No, you really couldn't. How many times during the holidays and stuff do you say to your kids, get outside and make something or do something?

Yeah. Adventure. And he did. That's so awesome. He did it. Ellie, brilliant. Thanks. You called some text messages.

I found my son who was six at the time standing on the side of the road with a sign he'd made that said free kid because I told him it was time for dinner.

My daughter ran away from home because I asked if they put underpants on. I hope she put underpants on before she ran away from home. My mum always likes to bring up the story when my uncle ran away from home,

he biked from Gore to Milton. Gore to Milton. That's a decent bike. That's a decent distance. That's 96.6 kilometres via State Highway 1. That'd take one hour 11 in a car, quite a considerable amount longer for a kid on a bike. So many people who actually made it a considerable distance from home. I ran away into a forest and I ran in and I turned around and I couldn't see the way

I'd come in. It was the most terrifying 15 minutes of my life. Don't head into a forest or a cornfield. You'll never see the low day again. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. During level four lockdown across the country we got an update on what we were fiending for at the supermarket.

I remember that from the start of the year. It was a lot of chocolate. Chocolate went through the roof. Yes. Chocolate was massive. Yeasty yeast and flour and toilet paper and baking. Everything baking related.

Vitamins were massive. Remember we were told to like take it easy on the paracetamol. Yep. So like that all seems quite broad and, you know, like looking after ourselves. This time round, there's some different trends that have emerged. So these are from supermarket sales in level two across the rest of the country and level three in Auckland.

Now this is, they've also said there was less panic buying. So good. That's something. Apart from that first night. Yeah. Oh yeah, that's silly. Because if you had to line up,

I haven't really had to line up. No, not this time. Not this time. Yeah. Are you going to guess? I'm just trying to think what I've, what I've seen a shortage of on the shelves. But as you said, no panic buying.

So it might mean that they're selling more, but they're restocking just as much, you know? Yeah. Hokie fillets. You've actually nailed it. Bullshit. What? Frozen fish.

Tilled fish and frozen fish. Really? Massive. And then I was like, oh, that's weird. But then I literally bought like frozen fish fillets. I bought two boxes of those crumbed hoagie fillets. Because I was like, yum, those are yum. And then you like eat all, you cook all of them apart from two or three.

And then one day in the weekend when you're like, what am I yearning for here for lunch? And you get one of those bad boys and you put them in a wrap. Yes, and you get a fish wrap. Oh, now we're talking. Yeah. And plus that's like I don't really eat a lot of seafood. That's the only fish that I kind of eat.

Yeah. It's like crumb and frozen. But it was massive. So that was the number one item. Yeah. There's been an increase in the entire frozen food section, which because everyone panic bought and then you ended up, you know, like not using it fast enough. Yeah.

Like you're just like, oh, I've got so much mints now. Yeah. But then you can freeze that kind of stuff as well. But just generally stuff from the frozen food section was a massive surge. Mints is still hugely popular. Kids love mints. Frozen chicken. So like frozen chickens, pieces, anything,

as opposed to fresh breasts, I guess. Non-spawn, but it's worth a mention. Okay. Have you tried that teagull crumb, teagull coated Louisiana southern style? Yeah. Is it amazing? Chef's kiss. It's pretty good.

You can deep fry it, which I've done once. Oh, I have not deep fried it. Which was next level. How do you have it? Isn't it already deep fried? Double deep fried. Deep, deep, deep.

Mariana trench deep fried Twice cooked Twice cooked yes Right okay That sounds better But it's pretty amazing isn't it Oh yeah it's good And you can bake it

It's good too That is actually non-spawn That's just if you're thinking Of chucking some chicken bits In your Yeah In your trolley But not for

Kids are like It's too spicy It's not spicy Yeah That's flavour sweetheart The other things Like frozen items Ice cream was massive Too spicy. It's not spicy. Yeah. That's flavour, sweetheart. The other things like frozen items, ice cream was massive. Dumplings, frozen pizzas, anything frozen.

God, I love the dumplings. I'm a big fan of the dumplings. Yeah. The frozen dumplings. Except you cook them once and you watch them. How do you do it? Oil and then water. Then water with the lid. Let the water go off.

And then the lid. Oh, pan fry, baby. Yeah, pan fry. Pots, because that. But then you get cocky, you do it once, and you nail it, and you're like, well, I don't need to be quite as attentive next time. And you come back, and you got yourself either like a dumpling soup or like just.

Charcoal dumplings. Just dumpling cover everywhere, and it's all torn to bits, and you just get to eat the little meaty balls. Meatball soup. Meatball soup. Meatball soup. Yummy, yummy, yummy. Yeah, so we're more prepared this time with our frozen products. Kia ora, this is Toby Mann.

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I will join on the phone now by senior reporter Chelsea Daniels who's covering the mosque attacks and the trial of the Christchurch mosque shooter. Day one yesterday. Chelsea, how would you describe the atmosphere of the first day of this trial?

Look, I mean, it would be an understatement to say that it's emotional inside that courtroom and outside the courtroom as well. Families obviously still grieve for their loved ones. Those injured clearly still dream of what happened inside the walls of the Alnoor and Linwood mosques on March 15. The running theme, though, was the kindness of New Zealanders in the moments and days, months after the attacks. It's clear an already loving, peaceful community

has been made stronger by evil. It was like watching the coverage that was on the news last night, just seeing some of those people speak and talk about it was just quite incredible, wasn't it? Because I would find that so, so hard to be in a room with that man. You were in the same room as him yesterday? Yep, yep. So in the same room,

one of 10 reporters inside the main courtroom. Then, of course, there's an overflow room with more media. Incredible scenes, though. I mean, a few victims even said that they forgave the terrorist. Their face actually made stronger by his evil. One of them, Jana, is that the mother of Hussein Ulumari. On birthdays, she said he would usually give her flowers, but on her birthday last year, they received

his body. She said he was kind, humble, caring, hardworking. She said her son didn't have an enemy in the world. And then amazingly, as she finished, she looked her son's murderer in the eye and said that she forgave him. The gunman held his hand over his mouth the whole time she spoke and nodded as she gave him that gift of forgiveness. Incredible. What do you think that the hand over the mouth and the nodding, how do you interpret that? I don't think there's any way to interpret anything that he does. I mean, he's been listening intently, I guess, to the victim impact statements. 24 read yesterday, another 40 odd to go. Today

will be dominated by victim impact statements and they'll likely roll over to tomorrow as well. Did you just find yourself being in the same room as him, just looking at him and just like, because I was just seeing him on the news last night and I was just like, looking at him, I was just like, what? Just why? What, yeah, what's going through your mind? I know, I think many people probably are asking that question, kind of looking at him and trying to find a sense of why. Definitely the victim impact statement had that as well.

I mean, there was anger and sadness and, of course, like I said, forgiveness, amazingly. One man even thanked him for making his faith in Islam stronger. A real mixture of emotions inside the court as you can obviously imagine. What about outside the courtroom? Scenes on the news last night like police snipers on the roof, barricades to stop vehicles getting in that shouldn't be getting in. Is that, I mean, Christ, add it to the list of stuff that Christchurch has been through.

I know, yeah. The barricades reminiscent of earthquake recovery and then the police snipers with the mosque shooting. But how's that atmosphere outside the courtroom? Yeah, security is, of course, tight outside the courthouse. You mentioned snipers in the building, something that I haven't seen in my lifetime reporting. Walking to court yesterday morning, actually,

we passed a bomb squad checking the perimeter, looking under every bush outside. I mean, that certainly gives you a sense of kind of calm, being like, OK, they are on top of it. There are dog squads going through, well, sniffing every bag, tight and security, only one way in and out for media and victims. It's definitely, I mean, I know we hate to use this word, but it's unprecedented. It's the first sentencing for offending under New Zealand's Terrorism Suppression

Act. And also, it's obviously the first time courts have dealt with a massacre and wounding of people targeted because of their ethnicity and religious beliefs. Earlier, I mean, Justice Commander, who's presiding over the sentencing, he said that the number of people directly impacted by the events of the 15th of March 2019, number in the hundreds, and those whose lives were affected in some way,

number in the thousands. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Well, look after yourself, because that's a hell of a thing to have to sit through and kind of sift through what can be factually reported and emotionally pushed to the side. So, yeah, take care of yourself and thanks for the chat this morning.

Thanks, guys. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Next on the show, we need your help. We need a man called Terry. So if you are called Terry. I've got the song. I found the are called Terry. I've got the song. I found the song. Oh, yeah.

Do the song. I don't know how far into this. Not a female named Terry and there's a reason. No, not a T-E-R-I or a T-E-R-R-I. We need a Terry, a man Terry to call us. I'll get to the chorus. Okay. Keep going, keep going.

We need a man called Terry. We'll explain why next, but if you know a man called Terry. Here we go, here we go. We need a Terry. I'm holding on for a Terry till the end of the night. Well, he's got to be strong and he's got to be fast and he's got to be brave for the fight. Holding on for a Terry.

I'm holding on for a Terry till the end of the night. Man, this is a jam. Absolutely. So if you know a Terry. Who's Friday Flashbacks at this week? What are you going to do? Fletcher's. He's not going to do that.

I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm doing it. All right, 0800-DARLS-IT-M if you know a Terry or you are a Terry. Or if you know the Terry, tell the Terry to call us.

You tell Terry to get on the block. Well, we put the call out just minutes ago. We need a Terry. We need a Terry. Hold on out for a Terry till the end of the night. Terry, good morning. Good morning. need a Terry. We need a Terry! Hold on out for a tear until the end of the night.

Terry, good morning. Good morning. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Terry, are you T-E-R-R-Y? No, T-E-R-R-Y. One R, one I. You're a lady. Get out. Get out. Oh, no, that's okay. Get out of here. You can't be gender

specific. No, but for this we have to be. Unfortunately, for this we are. You're off the hook, Terry. Thanks, Terry. Have a great day. Another Terry on the phone. Have we, Terry?

Good morning. Good morning. Yes. Terry. Male Terry. Is it just Terry or is it short for Terrence? It's short for Terrence. Right, it's short for Terrence. Okay, but you go by Terry. You it just Terry or is it short for Terrence? It's short for Terrence. Right, it is short for Terrence.

Okay. But you go by Terry. You go by Terry. Well, Terry, it's good to have you with us this morning because there is news today. A man in the United States has done some research. He looked at, firstly, the name Karen. Now, he plotted the name Karen, the number of births per year in the United States as a percentage of

peak popularity. Now it peaked in the 50s and 60s and it tapered off. So he got the graph and then he thought what is the closest male equivalent of the name Karen and overlapped all the births by population and popularity

and found that Terry is exactly the same. If you look at the graph there, is exactly the same as Karen. Even had a late 60s peak, didn't they? Yeah. Meaning, Terry, that you are the male equivalent of a Karen. Well, fair enough. He's taking it on the chin.

That's not a Karen thing to do. If it was a Karen thing to do, Karen would be complaining about being called Karen and in turn making herself more of a Karen. Yeah. No, I love my name. Okay, but do you find yourself with any of those Karen traits? Like, would you complain to the manager? No, not really, no.

What happens if you get served something at a restaurant and it's cold or there's something wrong with it? It doesn't tickle your fancy? No, I might complain depending on how bad it is. Oh, okay. How would you complain, Terry? Like, let's role play. Hi, is there a problem with your meal, sir?

Oh, yeah, it's a little bit cold. No, you're too polite, Terry. He's such a polite man. You'd snap at a waitress, you'd be like, I want to speak to the manager. Yeah. Oh, no, I'm not that kind of person. Oh, okay, okay.

Well, okay, Terry, maybe that's because you're a Terran. We've got another Terry joining us from Dunedin. Good morning, Terry. Good morning. How do you take the news that you have the male equivalent of the name Karen? Oh, I think it's a load of bollocks, really. That's such a Terry thing to say. Now, Terry, what would you do if you were at a restaurant

and there was something wrong with your food? Oh, no, I'd just take it on the chin, really. Just don't go back there. It's not a Karen thing to do, is it, guys? No, that's not a Karen thing. I could turn around and say, hey, look, I'll go to the manager, but that's not a Terry thing to do. It's more of a Karen problem.

So you are now distancing yourself. Whilst your names may have correlated on numbers, you're saying our attitudes differ. Oh, hugely. Those Terrys sound very chill. They do. That's a couple of chill Terries. Somebody messaged in saying,

give Terry a call. He's from Nelson and they put a landline. Now isn't that a Terry thing to do? They have a landline. Frances has called up. Frances, you have your friend's parents who are called Karen and Terry.

They are, yes. As soon as I heard it, I was like, oh my goodness, that is Karen and Terry. Oh my God. Are they both as bad as each other, like talking to the manager? No, Terry is actually a lovely man. Like he wouldn't complain. He's not that sort of person.

But Karen, like she's lovely, but I suggest she suits her name too. Is this the problem though? Is this the way we've gone wrong? Their numbers might be the same, and they might have been, but then they ended up married to each other, and Terry's just been downtrodden. Terry. Submissive Terry's.

Terry's had to become submissive, and Karen's worn the pants. Yeah, that might be it. I think we've stumbled across it here. Yeah. So Terry's, whilst, yeah, the numbers are the same, completely different attitude because they've grown up in a world of Karens. Maybe that's it. Oh, brilliant Francis.

Poor bastards. Yeah. We were going to launch into Terry's and now they've got my absolute sympathy. For having to deal with a lifetime of Karens. Karens, yeah. I've been binging Indian Matchmaker on Netflix.

Now this is, we follow, I believe she's from Mumbai but she's quite a famous matchmaker. So people come to her and she has like a whole dossier of people

that she then sets them up on dates with. Right. It's quite interesting to delve into like the arranged marriage because it's not popular in my culture.

And so, yeah, it looks into that. But one of the women who went to the Indian matchmaker was a partner. And she had gone through, because you don't have to say, you get matched up and you go on dates. But if you don't like them, you just say, see you later. Oh, so there's no commitment. No. If you don't like the date.

No. Okay, right. So she'd been on quite a few dates and had kind of found something wrong with everyone until she met Jay and Jay took her on a very different date.

They went to goat yoga. It was such a great way to meet someone because it's so relaxed and has so many moments of humour. I think it really helps break the ice. It's just a first date. I mean, we've all been on a million first dates and I don't think it gives you the full picture of who the person is

and how you guys get along. But I'm interested to know more about him and to learn a little bit about his personal life and how he got to where he was today. I would love to see him again. That's too much for a first date. Goat yoga. And she.

Whose goats are they? Yoga or just even goats. You go to a specific place. Yeah. And the dinging you can hear in the background is the bells on the goats. And like she was up until that point. Jay. She must have really liked Jay.

Because up until that point she was like really picky and like no to every guy. You love this show, don't you? Oh, I'm so into it. But she was trying to do the yoga and the goats are all up in your grill because they just roam around. Are they little goats? Because your goats would kill you.

Because when this kind of popped up, when was it, last year? And I got tagged in a lot. Try this with your goats. Try this with your goats. I was like, my goats would weigh 80 kgs. They'd crush you.

You'd be down in your downward dog and one would be like, all right, I'll hop on you and you'd be like, oh. And they've got big horns and stuff. Yeah, you get impaled. Yeah.

They're bad enough when they run in for a cuddle at speed. You're like, you've got knives on your head. And yeah, but they wouldn't climb all over you. But these are cute little goats. And goats do love climbing things.

So all they see is a little funny surface and that's you. And then they climb on you and it's pretty cute. But how would you react if a guy took you on a yoga date? Well, I like yoga. First date. Yoga, yeah. But in cute goats. I actually thought it would be kind of cool.

I thought it would be quite funny. It's a good way to break the ice. But would you have to be in your active wear? I'd go play with goats. Yeah, you'd have to be in your active wear. Okay. I mean, yeah, that would be the only thing. It's like, I don't want to go on my first date in my active wear.

I'd like to, like, dress up a bit, but. Yeah, they've got to earn active wear. They've got to unlock that. That's level five, baby. But it is, I mean, weird, a little bit different. Not everyone would be into it. You definitely have to like ask them. Do you think people would be up for like an out there first date like that though?

Because it's going to be exciting, right? It makes you remember them. Yeah, true. It brings both your guards down, you know, because if you're out of your comfort zone a little bit, but it's not like jumping out of a plane or something, lets your guard down, you know, because if you're out of your comfort zone a little bit, but it's not like jumping out of a plane or something. Let your guard down. You can have a laugh.

Yeah. But yeah, I mean, not everyone would be into it. Okay. Would love to know if someone's taken you on a weird or unique first date. Maybe you were into it. Maybe you weren't. Yeah. Maybe you didn't know.

Maybe they surprised you on a first date and you're like, oh, no, I'm not into it. Maybe you weren't. Yeah. Maybe you didn't know what the, maybe they surprise you on a first date and you're like, oh no, I'm not into this. Yeah. I wouldn't want to surprise. You don't really know someone you don't want like surprise. Yeah. Unless you were to know them a little bit. If you were talking to them for a while, like, you know, in lockdown, people aren't meeting.

So they might talk for like two or three weeks. I know, but you're also saying things you don't really mean to make yourself look good and stuff. Right. Yeah, I love heights. I love jumping out of planes or something. You know, you're just saying stuff you don't mean. We would like to hear

from you if you've ever had a unique or weird first date after being binging Indian Matchmaker on Netflix. And there was a goat yoga first date after being binging Indian Matchmaker on Netflix. And there was a goat yoga first date. So, yeah. Which could go either way, really. I mean, yeah.

Because your first date might be something simple like a cafe or a bar. Yeah. Or a restaurant. To get to know each other a little bit. But even then, that's an investment,

money-wise, isn't it? Goat yoga couldn't be cheap. Oh, yeah. I don't know what the cost of goat yoga would be. What would you put the first date money-wise at? Would you put a limit on the first date? Like, if you're doing a couple of these a week. Okay, so in 2017 was the first mention of goat yoga at money.com.

Yep. And it was at the cost of $30 for a one-hour session. Okay. That's all right. That's kind of like standard yoga. Yeah, it's not too bad. But you're not really talking to them, are you, though? No.

That's like going to the movies on a first date. It's like, yeah, you don't need to talk. I love that. Then you don't have to talk. You don't have to talk to them. Kristen, what was the weird first date? What did you do for it? So we did exactly what Megan said,

and it was a surprise skydive. You can't surprise people with that. Unless they've explicitly said, I really in my lifetime want to do a skydive. Yeah, it's bucket list stuff. Yeah. I am absolutely petrified of heights. Like I can't walk across a bridge without looking over the edge.

And I thought everyone was in on a joke. So we got in the car and drove to the airport and they were doing all the safety things and I was just laughing thinking it was a joke until we were getting in the plane. Wow. So did you go through with it yeah it was awesome otherwise yeah wow okay okay so and then not as bad as you thought it was going to be did they get a second date out of that yeah it did work oh okay there you go so throw someone out of a plane so you recommend one way or another get out of your plane. So you'd recommend it then? One way or another. Get out of your comfort zone.

It'll work for you. All right, Kristen, thanks for your call. Chelsea, what was the unusual first date you went on? So I had met a guy online, and we met in town for coffee. And then when we got there, he had told me that he had booked us a Thai massage. So we went in and had like a Thai massage with two beds in one room. It was horribly awkward. Oh, you had a couple's massage on your first date?

Yeah, it was awful. Oh, that's very presumptuous. I know. Wow. I feel like that's just a cheeky way to get you naked. Yeah, we had to wear wear these funny little suit things, like shorts and a singlet type thing, but yeah, it was still horrifying.

So did he get a second date or that was that? No, not at all. Oh, at least you got a massage out of it. Yeah, exactly. You want to have been dating for a little while before you do a couple's massage. Yeah, Chelsea, thanks, you're cool. Sarah, where did you go on a first date that was a little odd?

Well, my now husband took me to jet boating. He picked me up, didn't know where I was going, went jet boating. Yeah. I was sitting hungover so I thought I was going

to throw up the whole way but that's okay. Yeah. And then we went for a rodeo. Ooh, real roll of the dice having someone on a rodeo. Ooh, real roll of the dice, taking someone to a rodeo.

Yeah. I didn't know this at the time, but his underlying dream has always been to be a cowboy, so it kind of makes sense. Wow, okay, okay. And so, but it worked out and you're still with him?

Yeah, yeah. I married him in February and we're expecting our first child this December, so. Wow. Congrats. Happy ending. Sarah, thanks. You're cool.

Bridget, where did you go for a first date that was a bit odd? Yeah. Bit odd. Yeah, we went to a burnout competition in Manukau. Bridget, Bridget, how do you feel about burnouts? How do you feel about burnouts? Well, it was definitely an experience. Haven't been to another one since, though, but yeah, it was different.

And did he get a second date? Hey, we have got married as well. So we've been married 15 years, maybe. Wow. So we laughed, but that worked. I feel like the different dates are really doing it. I know. I was just like, oh, you have to be joking.

This is not the type of people I hang around with. But, yeah, it was good fun. Okay, Bridget. Hey, good fun. Okay, Bridget. Hey, thanks for your call, Bridget. Hayley, what was your unusual first date? Oh, so I met a guy at a pub and actually took him home and thought that was that.

I said to him, oh, I've got work in the morning. So I got up in the morning and I said, can you lock the door on your way out? Yeah. And didn't think I'd ever see him again. See you later. Yeah.

Got home from work and he hadn't left my house at all. He was still in the house cooking dinner. I don't know how I feel about that. So your first date was in your own home and he was cooking you dinner? Yes, yeah, and he vacuumed. Oh, okay. Oh, shit.

Why was he cooking for dinner? Do you remember what he cooked? He made a Thai rice and curry. Oh, my God. Okay, he's a keeper, Hayley. He burnt my rice pot. He burnt your rice pot? No, it's still that.

It's the effort. Yeah, it's still the effort. I found it funny. Okay, and did you, are you still with him? Yes, I am. We went to get married last month in Rarotonga, but sadly it hasn't happened. So there you go.

Force your way into someone's life. Yeah. Just never life Yeah Just never leave Just never leave Brilliant If there's advice For anybody having A sleepover at Fletcher's Just don't leave

Never leave I'll call the police Oh you're still here Hold on Yes I'd like to report A break in They've made some Kind of rice dish I don't know what it is And my pot's burnt I'm still here. Hold on. Yes, I'd like to report a break-in. They've made some kind of rice dish.

I don't know what it is. And my pot's burnt. Get them out. Some messages in. I took my now girlfriend to Wellington and back from Southland on our first date. Drove up, flew back. A guy took me to one of those dance fitness classes on a first date once. Was not my thing. A ghost did him. My now husband took us to To dance fitness classes on a first date once. It was not my thing.

I ghosted him. My now husband took us to Toys R Us on our first date. Oh, that's fun. That's cute. Yeah. I get to see all the toys. I got all dressed up to go on a surprise first date. I asked him how I should dress and he said, oh, just nice.

And he picked me up and he was in farm clothes And he was like You look nice Nice farm clothes It was nice farm clothes Took me to Burger King No word there Megan So let's assume not I'm assuming no

No ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan The podcast Fact of the day Day, day, day, day No. No. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day. I just was talking about this and my wife was giving me this blank look and not the usual blank look of I've stopped listening

but you keep talking by all means. Which I get a bit. Yeah. And then I finished and she's like, that was a great story. And I said,

fantastic, it's going to be tomorrow's fact of the day. Yeah. And then we started talking and she said, oh, by the way, I heard you talking about

the sounds music store listening posts. Yeah. We haven't discussed those. So then we discussed those and our children are looking at us like, what? And we're said, oh, by the way, I heard you talking about the Sounds music store listening posts. We haven't discussed those. So we didn't discuss those and our children are looking at us like, what? And we're like, yeah, we used to go to stores and listen to music. On the headphones. And they were like, what stores sold music? Oh, wow.

I was like, there were stores, all they did was sell music. And Indy's like, but just listen to the music on your computer. I was like, well, you couldn't do it. Why not? No one had computers. Unless you had LimeWire and you wanted to do it illegally. Or even that was a dicey roll.

Because then you had to explain to your mum why Russian porn bots kept popping up when she was trying to email her brother. I don't know. Dad, I'm looking at you. He's like, I've only touched that thing once. I don't know what I was doing. So today's fact of the day is about the Sega Hotline.

Because I even checked this with Jared, producer Jared, big video game player. I actually played some Fortnite with him yesterday. And this was absolute news to you as well, right? Yeah, I was shook. Back in the day, today's fact of the day, back in the day before the internet, if you got caught on a part or stuck on a part of a video game

and you didn't know how to get past it, you could ring an 0900 number, which if you don't know about 0900 numbers, It cost you money. That would cost you per minute. Yeah, like $5, $10 a minute. Yeah, it would vary I remember the Sega hotline at one stage was $2.95 a minute

and that was in the 90s, so that's a kick in the ass when the phone bill comes. And they'd never answer it straight away. And it was 100% legal to kick the kid in the ass in the 90s if they write you up a big phone bill So you could ring them up and I would, it's a bit of a dream of mine to talk to someone

who worked for them. Because did that person have to play every game and know the answer? Or are they like, hold on I'll put you through to the son of the hedgehog department. You'd just be like, I'm up to the castle I can't kill the big guy. For the life of me, I can't kill this guy. And you could, there was a Nintendo

one as well and there was a Sega one. Yeah. I was a Sega kid. And they'd just be like, fire some shots at his chest. Third brick down, shoot for that one and you'll hit him every time or something. Back in your day

that you were talking about, there probably wasn't that many games. So you probably just had gamers that were like, really good at games. There wasn't enough games though. There wasn't heaps in New Zealand. I remember my parents

would bring them back from overseas because they were cheap and there was a bigger variety of like Sega Mega Drive games. But you'd ring this number. I've actually got audio of what it sounded like when you called the Sega hotline. You're so jealous.

Whoa. Yo, we're busy at the moment. Maybe we're playing some of the new games that have just arrived. Oh no. We'll be with you as soon as possible. That's what I want to know. Were you paying to listen to this?

Absolutely. Only when it's ringing, you're not paying. So as soon as it answered, because this is four minutes, this audio, this is a four minute. So that would have cost you. Oh, jeez. I got hotline. Yeah, like $10, $12.

If it was $2.95, $3, $4, $12 to wait before you even get to talk to the person. Wow. Cheeky. Yeah. And now you just Google all the cheat codes and everything. Yeah, you can totally just go on YouTube and get an absolute walkthrough tutorial. Also, whose voice is that? That sounds like

Are you ready? Yeah. Cool. Oh, my God. That is the 80th, 90th sound of ever heard. That is the most 90th sound of ever heard. Who says 65 million years is a long time? Jurassic Park on Mega Drive will take you ages.

If you thought the film was big, this game is huge. Yeah. So then you're sitting there being advertised to and you're paying for it. Yeah, and you're probably like, quick answer, come on, I'm going to hang on soon. I'm looking at my answer, I'm still going to get kicked in the ass in the film. I'm freaking out. So today's fact of the day is before the internet, if you got stuck on a part of a video game that you couldn't work out,

you could call a number and pay money to have someone to tell you how to get past that part. Now, you've got to be listening at midday and 4 o'clock because it is our 50k fact of the day. All thanks to Save My Bacon helping you borrow money online and growing your credit score at the same time. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM.

The youth are apparently very intimidated by a piece of punctuation. I'm currently looking at a fascinating infographic called the 15 punctuation marks in order of how much they do and how hard they should be to learn. When you say the youth are scared of a certain punctuation, how youth?

What do you mean? Youth, youth. Like me? Like Megan youth? No, younger than Megan. Another thing for the Gen Zers to have on their shoulders. So not those clinging to you. They've grown up with smartphones

and they send short messages and then rather than use I grew up with smartphones. For Neidan, you grew up with two G phones. Whatever, you grew up with

a Garfield landline. You grew up with two cups and a string joining it. An Alcatel, one touch easy. Oh yeah. Is that the DB? What's a DB?

Is that a DB? The brick, the Alcatel coloured bricks. The charging cradle. Yeah. Fun of its time. So more your Gen Zs. So they are sent, rather than using full stops, they just send the message, signs full stop,

start another message. Pop, pop, pop, pop. Now, they say they're great without smartphones. These kids have never paid 20 cents a text. Because that was when text language was at its... Everyone was working out how to fit as much as they could in that 20 cents, baby. That's what I do. I always forget that texts were 20 cents.

When you're texting, though, you don't use full stops. That's very... No, I don't. I use a ha-ha all the time. That's the end of your sentence. Yeah, I'll see you at the funeral at two. Ha-ha-ha. Do you want me to bring any snacks?

I'm so sorry to hear about your mum. Ha-ha-ha. I know I just, but I do it out of habit. You're a ha-ha, yeah. And I'll very rarely use a full stop. Although if you are typing a message and you double space, it automatically puts a full stop in. Yeah.

Yeah. So I'll do that. Big fan of that. The most aggressive text that you get from your mum or something is when they wrote, okay, full stop. You're like, oh God, what have I done? I know, but that's just how boomers text. Apparently

Gen Zers and below felt that full stops at the end of sentences when communicating felt weird, mean or too blunt. It does. Like? I'm just trying to cling to my youth. Have a great day.

Full stop. Do you know what though? Oh, they don't mean that. When I write emails now, I find it hard to do paragraphs. Yeah, because you don't use as many full stops. And you're like, where am I supposed to do another paragraph?

Or like, you kind of lost that because you don't write like that anymore. My email etiquette is out the door. Like like my wife can't watch me write an email because in the subject i'm like hey what's up she's like no the subject must state the subject of the email i'm like no i want them to be like hey it's from vaughn and they imagine i like to imagine when my email gets into your inbox it's me walking in the door. Hey, what's up? I don't want it to be, imagine opening the door and someone's like,

tax. And you'll be like, no, go away. What up, y'all? And then they're like, hey, it's a friendly, well, it's the thing, in my mind the subject of the email is what you say as you open the door. Hi, I'm home.

Which would be weird to say. It would be weird to email that, yeah. See you soon. If you're going to see someone, see you soon. But do you use full stops as much? Yeah, yeah. I love a full stop. Okay.

Because I'll replace full stops with emojis sometimes. Oh, exclamation mark is better. Yeah, exclamation mark. It's weird. It means I'm excited rather than like full stop angry. Exclamation mark is better. Yeah, exclamation mark is a lot of those. It means I'm excited rather than like full stop angry. Yes, exclamation marks were the angry punctuation, weren't they? Yeah. For a long time, but now it's a bit of enthusiasm.

Right, so a full stop is more aggressive than an exclamation mark. It feels mean, like passive aggressive. Like, no, that's fine, full stop. Ooh. Ooh, but no, that's fine, exclamation mark. Oh, that means they're happy. Yeah. No, they said it's fine. Full stop. Ooh. Ooh, but no, that's fine! Exclamation mark. Oh, that means they're happy. Yeah.

No, they said it was fine and they meant it. Yeah. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. For those people who sleep naked, I've got... It's me, that's me. That is you. There would be some times it was super, super hot in summer. I maybe would.

No, even in winter, it's good. It's good. I've got news for people who sleep naked next. Oh, my God, that's me. I'm not going anywhere. I'll stay right here. Stick around. I mean, I'm required to as per my job contract to stay here.

I'm leaving. There's nothing in this for me. No, you're also required to stay here. Well, we'll see about that. All right, we'll be here in two and a half minutes. Find out next at M. You're still here, though, to hear about what it means to sleep naked, right? Fletch sleeps naked.

Vaughn's gone, though. Vaughn's up and gone. Who's speaking? Janice. Just cleaning. Fletch, Janice and Megan. Got a good ring to it. Oh, no, don't include me.

I'm shy. I don't want to be on the, no, don't include me. I'm shy. I don't want to be on the radio. What? Now you. I'm just a simple cleaner. Oh, stop it. Wants to meet the right man. Settle down.

Retire my lemon, please. Okay, shut up, Janice. Sorry, I do go on. Bring Vaughn back in. I'll go and get him. What is happening? I don't know. I just hope we can get to level two quickly.

Do you want more, did you? He's gone. I just saw him leave. I'm security guard. He's got a wee Starbees here doing his voices. Okay. Hey, do you guys think, I'm Gareth, by the way, and you're on security.

Do you think Janice... I'm going to throw my coffee jar at you in a second. Megan, move on. Do you think I've got any chance of Janice? I think she's bloody gorgeous. Fletch sleeps naked out of the three of us. Gross. Fletch.

There's an emergency. I wear my chub security outfit 24-7. He's going to fight you in a minute. Like, for reals. So, sleeping naked is actually... It's not now. Good for you. I'm about to have an on-air meltdown.

Is it because your body's, like, regulated? Yep. It is. No, it is. It's because you sleep better at a lower temperature, and then the less clothing you have, the less heat. But it's specifically for guys as well. When your temperature drops, it can increase your sperm count

and it's better for it. Right. Because we all know you can't overheat it. You shouldn't have your laptop on your lap. Oh, yeah. I'm pretty bad at having the laptop on the lap. Yeah. It can also help you sleep because it does regulate your temperature.

And if you get too hot, your brain activity starts going. Right. And then you might wake up because you're thinking about stuff. And for females, it's good to be free of restrictive clothing and it's better for your private parts

to air and cool. Is this Janice or Barry or Vaughan? No, that's Vaughan that's starting to get immaturely funny. No, no, it was me, Gareth. I was just thinking about how, you know, everything needs a good earring out, doesn't it? Get your duvet out of the hole. Well, yeah, if you go for a tramp, you always leave your sleeping bag on the line, don't you?

Ear that out. Otherwise, you have a musty... That's right. Cocoon. It's me. You don't want a musty... That's right. Cocoon. Excuse me. You don't want a musty cocoon? No. Oh, Lord.

No, you don't want a musty bag. Don't leave a wet sock on the bottom either. I learnt that the hard way. I had to write off a cat band. Oh, shut up. Like, we've had enough, Warren. Just stopping. Yeah, we ran a poll.

We ran a poll. Run through the poll. Do you sleep naked? Very wet sock. We did. So 59% of people said no, they don't sleep naked. And then we asked, well, what do you sleep in? So active wear.

So I don't have to get changed for my morning gym session. That's actually quite genius. No, it's uncomfortable. And then you wake up and you feel all musty. You'd have a big semen print down your leg when I wear my leotard. Someone said I usually sleep Pooh Bear or Donald Duck style. That's like a t-shirt and no pants. Oh, yep.

Okay. Madness. That would fit under what we've just read for females. I don't know if someone's joking, but they said they sleep in a jockstrap. That would not be comfortable. No. I wouldn't have thought someone's joking, but they said they sleep in a jockstrap. That would not be comfortable. No, I wouldn't have thought so. Only socks. I can't sleep without them.

There's something about wearing socks in bed is just really unpleasant. You're inviting athletes for the relationship. I'm done. You're dancing a fine line with tinnitus. Zed Eames, Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. If you enjoyed this podcast, I'm done with today. You're dancing a fine line with tinnitus.