ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 25th January 2021

Episode Date: January 24, 2021

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Hello, welcome to the Fleeche Vaughan and Megan podcast with Hayley Sproul, who's filling in for Megan on maternity leave. It's thanks to McCafe by five McCafe coffees. Get one free on the Maccas app now. Just as we record, this Vaughan is dealing with a complaint that we've received today. Now, Hayley, this will be the first time you've seen Vaughan dealing with a customer complaint. He doesn't deal with them well. Right. I also didn't expect either of you guys to deal with him so directly. Oh, it came in on the text machine, so. Right, so you just go straight on back.

Yeah. What was the complaint? Well, Fletch said don't be a pussy. Yeah, spoiler alert, this is coming up in the podcast. Somebody said, hi, guys, just listening now with the kids in the car. We all love your show, but I really don't like it When you say Stop being a pussy How do I explain this To young listeners

Now I might be wrong Correct me if I'm wrong But I thought that Is from Don't be a scared pussy cat Because you know Cats are very timid And scare easy

Yeah But then of course Yeah I think I've learnt it Almost as it's own being You know I haven't Sort of tied it To anything else

You don't think of vaginas when you say it. Did you just say fa-ginas? Vaginas, vaginas, vaginas. To be fair, vaginas don't. Now, is that the Mexican food? Yes, vaginas. Oh, I love a grilled vagina. Oh, me too.

I love when the sizzling vagina platter comes out. Yeah, paprika. And it's still sizzling and it's like. Pumens. And it's so hot it makes your eyes water. Yeah, and they're like, don't touch your vagina hot plate. And you're like, okay, I won't. I mean more, I think don't be a pussy has grown a life of its own.

Yeah. It means its own thing. I said it's from Skitty Cat, right? Like cats are scared of things because I didn't think it was vagina related because I'm assuming that's what they were getting at. And they said, maybe you should do a poll and see if people think you're talking about a cat or a vagina. Now, they wanted us to stop saying it, but now they want us to run a poll on it so there's a little bit of a problem we're gonna double down and that will fill a break tomorrow yeah um to be honest i think we all

know it's got double meaning and one that's often derogatory i'm thinking that especially today we've moved a bit further ahead of this and there's a bit and there'd be a bit more honesty from the team and i said well i guess you could just tell your kids the cat theory yeah because that's the problem we lie to children all the time. I'm happy to apologize if I'm wrong, but I don't think. Well, they messaged saying, sure, I'll explain this to my daughters. Thanks for your mature responses. But I think they were being sarcastic.

I feel a sense of sarcasm there. I'm just frantically trying to get my headphones out of the case. You are. I've got a cord tangle here. Oh, you've got a cord on it, isn't it? I just wanted to look at the locations that the Northland COVID positive result. You're sort of westy north. Actually, yeah, yeah.

One of the locations is quite close. So you can go to covid19.gov.nz. The full list of all of the locations that this woman went to over these few days is listed. She scanned into these 30-odd places over about a week. So, yeah, that's what I wanted to say. That's exactly what everybody should be doing. So when there is a case in the community, because it was always kind of a matter of when, not if, right? Yeah, I saw somebody post it last night. Scan codes like you're going to be the subject of a COVID press conference

and you want everyone to say you're a GC. Yeah, true. I mean, they even tagged into the Cody Museum. Okay, I will, but that is a bloody good museum. Is it? Honestly, it's a good museum. My mum grew up in Dargaville, my grandad lives in Dargaville, and every time you've got to stop at the Cody Museum.

Really? Really. It's more than just trees. I tell you. Well, they need to work it into the title then. What else is in it? A blimmin' good cafe to start. Well, that's easy.

They can rename it the Cody Museum and Cafe. It's a lot about trees. Okay. It's good. The mighty Cody. It's a great museum. It's my worst nightmare, though, is you get COVID and then the whole nation knows your movements. I know.

Like, I just get judged about going to food places. Food, food, food, food. Food for breakfast. Food for lunch. Food for dinner. There's a lot of cafes and restaurants in here. A lot of liquor stores, a lot of dairies. Yeah.

That'd be the one thing I'd be worried about, like the liquor stores. They're like, you know, I can understand going. It's that time of the year. You go out for an eggs penny, don't you? Yeah. For God, he was drinking a lot. He was visiting them daily. He couldn't keep up.

Yeah, well, I only like to buy my bottles of wine one at a time. Oh, you're not a bulk man? I don't want... No, I am. I am a bulk. After 8.30 on the show this morning, Chris Hipkins, the Minister of Health, is on. Minister of Health or Minister of COVID? COVID Response Minister.

COVID Response Minister. There we go. It's health related. We'll get the latest from him this morning just after 8.30. Coming up on the show, the top six. Yeah, today's top six. The top six things that don't look like they have felt. Somebody got a cornea.

Somebody got a cornea implant so they can see. Wow. So they were legally blind. Legally blind. Wow. Yeah, but now they can see again. So they've been feeling things all this time. Yeah, and you might be feeling things and then you'll see it and you'll be like, oh, that didn't that is not how it

looked in my mind when I was using my finger eyes. It'd be terrible if that surprise was your husband or something. Well, this is not at all what I was feeling. It felt more symmetrical. Alright, it's coming up in the top six. And Kamala Harris is moving to a new house.

You won't believe what's inside. It's ridiculous. It's a mansion. Kamala Harris, our new vice president, she's moved into a new house. I didn't realise the vice president gets a new house, but of course. She's going to move to Washington, D.C. I never actually thought about it. Is it the same one that all the vice presidents live in?

Well, it has been for a while. It's opposite. It's across the street from the White House. The White House. And it's called the President's Guest House or Blair House. And it's huge. I'm looking at photos of it. It's 60,000 square feet. Wow.

60,000. Blair House is composed of, it's crazy. So the whole complex is 60,000 square feet with 119 rooms. So that's five and a half thousand square meters. Yeah. Just for those that, you know, are used to looking at real estate listings. I don't think she lives in the whole thing because I think they reserve some of it still for lots of different things like a place for the family of any deceased former president for funerals and stuff like that.

Oh, so she's got to like, people are going to bunk down. But surely there are another entrances and stuff. The wings and stuff. Don't worry, she's not disappointed. Her bit, called the President's Guest House, has 14 bedrooms in it. 14.

And it's fully staffed. Wow. It's a bit of a step up. I don't know what kind of flat she was living in before, but her and her husband, and do you know her husband, they call him the second gentleman now? Second gentleman. And that's their first ever second.

The first ever second gentleman. Whereas we've had second gentlemen for ages. Yeah. Haven't we? Going back to the ship. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Remember the ship? No, that was gentlemen for ages. Yeah. Haven't we? Going back to the ship. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Remember the ship? No, that was our first gentleman.

Yeah. Because we don't have a vice president. Oh, yeah, that's right. He's the second gentleman, isn't he? But we don't call our... No, we don't call... What do you call it? Backup prime minister.

Reserve prime minister. What was Winston? Vice? Vice deputy. Deputy prime minister. We don't give their partner a title. We don't call them a deputy first anything. No, it's not like president, vice president.

If you look at this, there's photos of it. And if you look at it, it's very, it's not very modern. It's very old fashioned. A lot of fine furniture. Is it a bit Bridgerton looking? It's a bit Bridgerton looking. It's a bit dry for me. A lot of portraits of people

you just won't know. Not a lot of room for your own family photos, I think. What would you do if you had 14 bedrooms? What would you use them for? A series of toilets.

Really? But they'd already be toilets. Because if it's got 14 bedrooms, how many bathrooms is it? It must have a few bathrooms. It must. I'm thinking 12. At least.

You'd have a lot of en-suites. Or like six and some of those toilets that are just toilets. Yeah. I would make one of those rooms, and I've always dreamed of doing this, just a bed. So you walk in and there's enough room for the door to open, but then it's just mattress and sort of blankets everywhere. In the middle?

No, the whole floor is bed. So you just open the door, fall, and it's bed. And you're sort of surrounded by feathered pillows and light linen duvets. There's not a lot of light in there. That sounds very... Sexy. Yeah, that'd be for more than one person,

wouldn't it? Yeah. See, you thought orgy. I thought marae. Take your shoes off at the door and sleep wherever you want. But you've got 14 bedrooms. You don't need to cram everybody into one. That's true. Take your shoes off at the door and sleep wherever you want. But you've got 14 bedrooms. You don't need to cram everybody into one. No, that's true.

So if you look at it, it's four connected 19th century townhouses and one of them's painted white. That's her one. The rest of them is used for a myriad of different things. Wow. 119 rooms in total. The Queen's woman stayed there. Has she? The Queen, Margaret Thatcher.

She wouldn't stay there now because you said townhouse and those have always got stairs. Putin stayed there. There are stairs. Imagine that if the Queen died falling down the stairs of the President's guest house. I know. You wouldn't put her in any place with stairs now. They'd have a lift. One of them must have a lift.

Putin stayed there. Bloody give that a sweep for bugs. Thatcher stayed there. Thatcher stayed there. Justin Trudeau stayed there. It's a bit fancy. It must be fancy, yeah. Yeah.

ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. How good is garlic bread? Rhetorical question because it's great. It doesn't need answers. We really don't need to answer that. Imagine offering up some garlic bread and someone's, not for me. Oh, yeah, I don't do it. No, I'm not really into garlic.

No. Not huge on butter. I can imagine my mum being a bit like, it was a little bit garlicky. Oh, really? But she's like, peppers sometimes a bit. She got a delicate palate. Yeah, just a white old boomer's palate. It's very, very basic.

Yeah, sweet chilli sauce is living it up. She wouldn't. She wouldn't. She absolutely not. Really? I'd go straight through her. The girls were putting pepper on their food. Yeah.

And mum's like, careful, careful, you'll make it too hot. Wow. As my daughters are like grinding pepper on. They're like, oh no, we like pepper. And she's like, you don't want to go overboard. Oh. So she might say some of these are a little bit garlicky, but someone took it upon themselves to write a list

of the five best garlic breads available in New Zealand supermarkets. What a gift to the nation. Yeah. I love that as the world's on fire, like the big issue here in New Zealand, even with an outbreak, is the top five garlic breads available at supermarkets. And it's one of those headlines where I only clicked it because I was like, this will be wrong. Yeah.

Because everyone considers themselves a little bit of a garlic bread aficionado. Mama Forale's traditional garlic bread. It's the obvious. Now is that the one that's like, it's in a foil, it's in the foil and the plastic on the outside and it's like red and white and like a

Italian. An Italian noni. Is that what Italians call their grandma? Nonna. Nonna. Mama Forale's just for the white people who don't know what a noni is Is that what Italians call their grandma? Nonna. Nonna. Nonna? Mama for rallies, just for the white people who don't know what a noni is, or a nonna.

$5 for two is the reason I think it's on the list. And because this is the garlic bread you give to the kids. Oh, is it not that good? If the parents are going to have nice garlic bread. Oh, right. You give the kids this garlic bread. Is there a class system in your house? Oh, hell yeah. So mum and dad are having the focaccia

and the kids are having the nonnas. The kids are having this filth. This tinfoil wrap filth. You can juge this up a bit with a bit of extra butter and garlic. You can. You can slant more butter and maybe a bit of jean, a bit of parmesan. Yes.

And then why not just buy a nice bread and do it from scratch if you're going to do that? You shouldn't have to add. Aren't we? You're adding more butter and garlic and bloody grated parmigiana to a budget loaf. Yeah, true. Just get a plain bread, do it yourself.

Because that's when you're buying garlic bread and there's hardly any butter in it. Yeah. God, that's nothing more frustrating. I know. It's tough. You know, it's got that. Yeah.

Tough sort of chew to it. There's Turkish buttered garlic bread also on the list. This is a bit more bourgeois, sort of a longer loaf situation. Right. Cut in half. I don't know if I'm familiar with that. I'm not a big garlic bread buyer. No, neither. It's just at plate. Oh, that looks nice. I've seen that. That one. That's a fancy one.

I will say I've also known this one to be dry though. Really? Well, again, add a lot of butter. What's that one that is just sopping with butter? It's sopping. Just. Because that's where I'm at. It's so buttery.

It's a fire hazard. You know, you chuck them on the barbecue and everything else is done because they only take a couple of minutes. But if there's another stuff on the barbecue, it's like. Yeah. And you're like, yeah! And you must be sopping for it to be delicious. Absolutely dripping.

There's an artisan bakehouse one. That's not as expensive as I would have thought. That's $5.50 for a loaf. Do PAMs do one? I feel like, you know, they do the little mini ones? The PAMs. I've had those at parties. These ones? The Pams. You had those at parties. These ones?

Yeah. The par-baked dinner rolls. Yes. But they're par-baked. You give them a little bit of a zhoosh, but these are the garlic and the butter ones. I thought you could only eat dinner rolls at Christmas. Is this not a thing?

No, they're at dinner. You can eat them at any dinner. There was a bunch of stuff in the 90s that you only ate at a certain time of year. Yes. Our generation were like, well, why can't we have them whenever we want? And people are like, well, there's no reason. It's just tradition.

It's like, well, I want to eat it now. Yeah. And then all these things that were specifically holiday related have become. Like hot cross buns. You can get them in Jan. Yeah. You can get them anytime. They just don't have the cross on the top.

I don't know if you've seen the actual cross ones. I've seen Easter. Yeah, stuff's already in stores. A sweet raisin bun, isn't it? Right. Yeah. So those are the ones that they put on the list as their favourites. So those are the ones you can buy at supermarkets.

Because, you know, you can't go past a blimmin' Domino's. Because Domino's is quite soppy. What? With their Domino's garlic bread. The pizza place. Is it soppy? It's the pizza place. Who's what to? The PR lady. She'll love this. The pizza place. Is it soppy? Yes, the pizza place. Who's what to...

The PR lady. She'll love this. Yvonne. Yvonne. Yvonne. Yvonne from Domino's always sends us Domino's power releases

and really wants us to talk about it. Well, Yvonne, I mean, I'm... You've just done Yvonne's unprompted work here. It's the best. It's a wet, wet roll.

I've never even had it. I've never even had it. I've never even had it. It's soft. It's sort of... Is it on a pizza bun? I reckon a good garlic bread needs to be steamed. You know,

it's almost like a KFC bun. Yeah, good, good. That's why those ones come in the tin foil, right? So the moisture doesn't escape from it and it keeps it circulating around. I like my bread wet.

Does the garlic bread come in like a pizza shape? No, no, no, no. It's just a normal garlic bread come in like a pizza shape? No, no, no, no. It's just a normal garlic bread wrapped in your tin foil. You bring it out. It's sesame seeded and it's steamed. And it's sopping. And it is utterly sopping.

It's dripping down your sleeve. I hope we've increased garlic bread sales today because I certainly want some. I'm literally salivating. Flesh, fauna, Megan, the podcast, ZM. A study has found that acts of love towards a spouse are beneficial even if your spouse doesn't know that you've done them. This study came on the back of the Dalai Lama's whole belief system

that compassionate concern for others' welfare enhances one's own effective state. I was going to say, he's not married, though. He can't get married, can he? No, but he can still give gifts. You don't have to just give love to your wife. That's a different gift-giving situation. But you want to tell your partner that you've done something

because you need the kudos. No. So they did this study to try to put that to test if the gift of giving was enough in itself to make the giver feel better. And it does, apparently, even more so than the person receiving the gift. So they, yeah, they tricked people for a two-week period of time and recorded their emotions and their feelings. And on the days that they gave their partner a gift, even if it was

just something like a coffee or a bowl of muesli in the morning, that they benefited. I've brought you your feed bag. Now let me strap it on your face. Eat this apple from my hand. On those days that they gave those gifts, their whole mood

rose by 45%. Even if the gift that they gave those gifts, their whole mood rose by 45%, even if the gift that they gave was not recognised by the receiver. So if they didn't acknowledge it? Yeah. It's more likely it would be something like a coffee or something. Because if you got them like a piece of jewellery and they didn't acknowledge that, you'd be like, what the hell's going on? Yeah. And also, I mean, even on the days they acknowledged it,

they're saying basically that the giver receives more positive benefits than the person going, oh my gosh, thank you so much. Oh no, if you give them something and they don't say thank you, what's the point? That's just rude on their behalf too. I'd

chew on it all day that I was not adequately thanked. Yeah, well I think I might be the same because this is, you know, the five love languages? Yeah, we did that last year, right? What was I? Tap and gap. So there's words of affirmation, words of affirmation,

gifts, acts of service, quality time, physical touch, and I'm words of affirmation. Right, so you need to be thanked. I give an act of service and it is not retaliated by words of affirmation. Right, so you need to be thanked. So if I give an act of service and it is not retaliated by words of affirmation, I'm flipping the house upside down. Right. Don't come near me, don't touch me, don't talk to me, don't even look at me, Aaron.

You didn't say thank you that I turned on the jug. Words of affirmation. Right. Is Aaron service, what's his? Oh, it's hard, I don't know. He's sort of a bit of everything but I'm a toucher. That's one, eh? Oh, it's hard, I don't know, he's sort of a bit of everything, but I'm a toucher, I'm a, that's one, eh? Yep, physical touch

I wasn't just admitting something I'm a grabby, I'm a groper But I like to receive words of affirmation so often I just ask for them, I do I'll just say, can you say something nice about me? So if you got him a gift and he didn't say thank you,

you'd be stewing on that? Yeah, and I'd hold on to it for years. What? Do women do that? Unheard of. But apparently, look, the gift of giving is enough, so perhaps we need to give more. But don't give kisses at the moment.

COVID's back. Yeah, true. Hold on to your kisses. ZM's Fletch Warner Megan at the moment. COVID's back. Yeah, true. Hold on to your kisses. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. A list of what can and can't go in a dishwasher has been compiled. An Australian list. Apparently a panel of cleaning experts got together. Also consulted with the dishwasher industry.

Okay. And put together a can and cannot go in the dishwasher list. What do you want first? I want some obvious cans. Some obvious cans? Dishes. Coffee plunger? Oh, okay. But you'd want to give that a good rinse. That's a good you've got to rinse that under the tap first.

You might get a blocked filter. I've just jumped onto this list. On the cans flip flops. Jandals. Yeah. Yuck. What? Yuck. Why are you putting flip-flops, jandals. Yeah. Yuck. What? Yuck. Why are you putting your stanky-ass jandals? I don't know why you would even.

You'd just put them in a bucket, wouldn't you? I've got to say, I don't think I've ever washed a pair of jandals in my life. No. They don't last a season. They just walk through a puddle or something. Yeah, they wash themselves when it rains. They're self-cleansing. Yeah.

Squeak, squeak, squeak, squeak. And that's how you know they're cleaning. Yeah. So you've got other things like kids' dummies can go in there, hairbrushes and combs, the kitchen sponge and the scrubbing brush. I wouldn't put the sponge in there because that feels like the sort of thing that could come loose mid-transit. I always put the dish brush in like once a week and it cleans it good as new.

Okay. You can put keys in there as long as they don't have batteries in them. Keys? Oh my God, your car remote? Your house keys. Yeah. Yeah. Why would you do that?

I don't know. Do you know what, though? Have you ever washed your keys? No, I've never washed my keys. They're probably disgusting. They probably are. I just wonder if Mr. Minute would recommend that. Why don't you just give them a, get an anti-wipe.

An anti-wipe. Yeah. Yeah. Just one of those. Give them a wipe. Yeah. Beautiful. Lego.

You could put Lego in there should you need to. That seems... You'd have to put that in the cutlery basket. Yeah, but then if one came out, it'd be in that little basket with all the peas and carrots at the bottom. Well, that's the other thing with the hairbrushes and combs. That filter's going to get a whole lot more nasty because it's got hair and stuff in it.

Do you... I mean, I'm not a dishwasher owner. I'm about to be on Friday. I'm moving house. Oof. Thank you. I can't believe, and how old are you? I'm 31.

And this is going to be your first dishwasher? My partner's 39 and we've never had a dishwasher. Wow. Ever. And I've got eczema. Have you thought about, what is that? Because when I wash my hands, like I've got eczema in my hands. Have you thought about if you're going to do powder or tabs?

The little... I think I want to do the disintegrating tab thing, you know, the jelly tabs. The jelly tabs? Tide pods. You can eat them. Can you eat them? No, you can't.

No, you can't. Don't lead me down that path. Is there anything unusual on the can put in the dishwasher list? Anything else? I thought those dishwasher list? Anything else? I thought those were unusual. Anything else? Lego pieces? Exhaust fan filters.

Yeah. Does that mean you extract a fan? Yeah. From above the... Because those things are nasty. They'd be greasy and the hot water would probably melt the... Yep. Okay.

That'll get it. Sort of dog toys. Get those in there. Pet food bowls. Clean up the dog toys. What about adult fun toys? Are they on the list? I've always thought yes, but not the battery part.

Right, okay. That was the rule, eh? You can't, often they're one and the same, aren't they? Yeah, I don't know if it's got a removable top or whatever. Right. I don't know. A silicon sleeve? Who knows?

Just some soap-free soap and warm water. This is what is on the cart list. And... This is what's on the cart list. This is what's on the cart list. I've heard. Up top. She's read.

She read the little fold-out. She read that little paper fold-out that comes with it that nobody else, everyone is just tearing into the packaging. Let's get to this. Hayley's like, wait a minute, we've got to read the instructions first. Always read the manual. Who am I saying wait a minute, we've got to read the instructions first. So. Always read the manual. Oh, my God. Who am I saying wait a minute to, Aaron? Yeah, hold on.

Not for internal use. See, we could have rushed into something silly there. So what can't go in there? Number one at the top of the list, wood. Anything wood. I always put my wooden spoons in the dishwasher. Same. I always put wooden chopping boards in there.

Oh, no, I don't put the chopping board in. It's too big. Oh, yeah, we've got a couple of little littleies. I've got some little plasticky ones I'll put in there in the dishwasher. Or plastic ones, not a problem. But apparently if they're wooden, that is a problem. Aluminium.

What's aluminium? What's aluminium in the kitchen? Like a dish. If you had an aluminium dish. Oh, like one of those baking trays? You know those ones? Yeah, right. Yeah, maybe. But I don't know.

Why not? Maybe it's a heat thing. I don't know. Maybe it gets super hot, yeah. Ash trays? That's just because that's yuck. That is so manky. It feels like a contradiction as well to be filling up your ashtray with your ciggies

and then be like, it needs a rinse. Oh, God, that's filthy. That stinks. Yeah, imagine how much your that stinks. Imagine how much your lungs stink. Blenders. Yeah, but that's because

the plastic seals get deteriorated and it probably doesn't get like a good clean. It might leave some stuff in there. Yeah.

Unless you take it to bits. Cast iron. Everybody should know that if you've got cast iron in anything. It never gets washed. Like, skeletons and stuff

and pans. Yeah, it gets wiped out. Wiped out, maybe oiled. Yeah, re-oiled, re-seasoned,

but if you wash it with soaps, you're just going to have to re-season the entire thing. Sharp knives. Yeah, I don't put my

sharp knives in. Always give those a hand wash. Oh, really? Why? My parents do. I just always heard

that's what you do. Maybe. You do see, like, the little rust, they get a little bit rusty sometimes, you know, little dots of rusty.

Maybe that's it. Oh, we always chuck all the sharp knives in there. Fine China, I mean, that goes without saying. Clothes is on the list. You should know not to put your clothes in there. Clothes! No, but I have seen that before. Someone washing their jeans in the,

it was a recommended thing. Give your jeans a good antibacterial wash. In the dishwasher. Where do they stack? I don't know. Top rack tray? But you can just buy an antibac, like add like a little liquid that you put in the washing machine.

Nonstick pans shouldn't go in there. Yeah, that's. Yeah. Pizza stones. I don't think you're really supposed to wash pizza stones much at all. You're supposed to give them a scrape. Right. They can get like moisture stuck in them.

Oh, I just saw on the list, keep cup. Yeah. Why not? I don't know why. Glass? Most of them? Is it because the lids? It's silicon, though.

I mean, you can put silicon stuff in the dishwasher, can't you? Well, it's on the list of things you can't put in there. Wine glasses, they just get kind of smashed with the, like, long stems. No, but they've got those, the rack bits at the top, specifically four wine glasses. Four wine glasses, yeah, but I think it can be a bit rough on them. Maybe you're cheapies. And then not content with wood being the top of the list, they've also put it at the bottom of the list as well.

Wood. Wood and items. How are you supposed to wash them? Just in the sink? I guess just by hand. Do they stay too wet for too long? Is that the theory there? Yeah. And then they might get sort too long? Is that the theory there? Yeah.

And then they might get like sort of a moldy build up in them? But they also get wet in the sink. You got to clean them. Yeah. Oh yeah, good call. Clean and scrub, but maybe they're not as wet for as long. Your wooden spoons are dry clean only apparently. And the heat might warp them as well maybe. So wood might get warped.

Maybe over time. Yeah. They're talking like any of us hold on to any kitchen for that long anyway. Like, we don't just chuck them out and go get another one for two bucks from Kmart. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. The Podcast. ZM. From the muggy ZM

think tank, this is the Top Six. Hello there. A man has regained his sight more than a decade after losing it. Right. He had an artificial cornea transplant. Ten years without sight.

Imagine looking in the mirror and being like, oh, I'm older. Time has not been kind. Like just not, you would never see it. You would have seen yourself as, how old are they? Does it say? 78. That's a big change from 68 to 78.

You do a lot of ageing. It's a big change from 68 to 78. Yeah, 68 to 78. You do a lot of ageing. It's like when you see an old Facebook photo of yourself and you're just like, wow, okay. Was that? Yeah, how long ago was that? Cornette Vision's Biomimetric. It's not bio, it's biomimetic.

Biomimetic. I feel like you're putting an extra M in there. I feel like it too, but it's written down like this. Biomimetic. I feel like you're putting an extra M in there. I feel like it too, but it's written down like this. Biomimetic implant. The operation took less than an hour, and apparently this indicates that people who have been blind since birth, if it is a cornea-related blindness, can see. That's incredible.

They're almost there. So I've got the top six things that wouldn't look how they felt if you'd grown up blind, feeling your way around. These are the top six things that probably don't look like people would have expected from a person with vision. Number six, cats. Because you pat them. Yeah, but you never...

They've got a wet spot on the nose. Yeah. And then you get to the back, and you know when you get to the back, they always throw their tail and ass up. So you'd probably expect the cat to be a curved S shape. Yeah, because you'd never seen one. It applies different pressure to your pat. And you're only going by feel.

But you'd know there was a, you'd scratch the tummy and then something happens and it decides it's time to attack you. Imagine how cats have that swinging gut that they get. My cat's got that. The little pouches. Imagine seeing that for the first time and being like, what happened there? I thought that were his balls.

That's why I always avoided touching. Number five on the list of the top six things that wouldn't look how they felt, a car. They weren't driving it, but they'd been in one. But only because of its size. Can you map that large area by feel? Do you know what I mean? I weren't driving it, but they'd been in one. But only because of its size. Can you map that large area by feel? Do you know what I mean? I don't know.

You walk around it, I guess. But you probably spend a lot of time in the passenger seat. Yeah. Which is like a small room. You'd be able to feel what that was like, but on the outside. Yeah, right. Would you have appreciation for what it looked like? And they all look different.

No, look, I don't know. It's just something that would look different to how you would have thought. Number four on the list of the top six things that wouldn't look how they felt. Carpet. It's weird. It feels really weird. Yeah. Like you walk on it and you might lie on it,

but have you ever really got down there and given it a good feel? Yeah. It's a weird feeling. Yeah, okay. Looked at its knotage. Yes. Yeah. Especially if it's a little bit of a longer carpet. Run your a good feel. Yeah. It's a weird feeling. Yeah, okay. Looked at its knotage. Yes. Yeah. Especially if it's a little bit of a longer carpet.

Run your fingers through that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And imagine what it must look like. Bit of a shag. If you've never seen it. Yeah. Number three on the list are the top six things that wouldn't look like they felt.

Bananas. Because I don't think bananas feel yellow, do they? I mean, you've probably been told that they're yellow. Can you feel the colour, though? Yeah. But some things feel their colour. Yeah. Like grass. It's got a certain

greeny feel to it. Yeah. But a banana? Yeah, right. More of a red. More of a purple. God, if you'd never seen in your life and then you got this implant, wouldn't it just, wouldn't you just walk around for like weeks just in awe of everything? It'd be sensory, wouldn't you just walk around for like weeks just in awe of everything?

It'd be sensory overload. I think it would be overwhelming. It would just be insane. Even you see those videos of people seeing colour for the first time. Yeah. I mean, that's overwhelming. Let alone.

Or like the babies that get the cochlear implants so they can hear. Yeah. And then they just like hear their mum's voice and they look around and they're like. Screaming. Yeah. And those videos always make me cry.

Oh, yeah. I weep. Number two on the list of the top six things that wouldn't look how they felt, a bean bag. Yeah. What is it, eh? Yeah, it moves. Sack of beans you sit on. How does this work?

What does it look like? And in between you touch it, it changes shape. And number one on the list of the top six things that wouldn't look how they'd felt. Your own genitals. This is true. Yeah. You've grown up, you've felt those. Yep.

And you see them and you're like, huh. Yeah. Even as a seeing person. Yeah. The first time you see them properly. Good Lord. What, through a mirror? Yeah.

Mirror? Yep. You've got to get to know yourself. You do have to see them properly. Good Lord. What, through a mirror? Yeah. Mirror? Yeah. You've got to get to know yourself. You do have to know how it all fits together. It's responsible. It's very important. That is today's. It's responsible yet shocking.

Yeah. A real eye-opening experience. That is today's top six. ZM's Fletch Warner-Megan, the podcast. Larry King died over the weekend. He was a talk show host. The face of CNN for years. Yeah.

Touted as one of the greatest interviewers of all time. He said, the key is not to over-prepare. So write that down, because that's what I'll be saying next time I get asked why I didn't prepare well. I'll be like, oh, it's Larry King in it, baby. He's off the cuff. Yeah, most of it off the cuff. He said The problem with

Most interviews Is they write down Questions and then They're too much Of a hurry to ask Their next written down Question rather than Asking what the next

Question should be In a conversation Because he had some Controversial interviews As well Who walked off as I was just watching I've let us down a path

I can't finish Marlon Brando The old actor Who never did interviews, he did an interview with him, and they ended up by kissing on the mouth, and apparently that was quite a thing at the time. Hot.

Too mean. Not really, if you saw the picture, because that was what I thought. Apparently the picture was famous, so I Googled it, and I was like, oh, yeah. But he's interviewed all the presidents. He was the first person to interview OJ Simpson when he got out of prison or after the trial.

Right. Everybody went to him. One thing that I learned about Larry King yesterday is he was married eight times to seven different women. Quick maths. He married one of them twice. Oh, dear. Did he have any money left? How did he have any money?

He must have had so much to be able to part with it seven times. Seven times. He kept building it up and then giving it away. His net worth, his final year at CNN, his contract was worth

$56 million. Whoa. And his net worth was estimated at $144 million. Hang on. He earned $56 million in one year.

A year. But he earned $100 million because that's what happens when you get divorced lots. So he married his, the first marriage was his high school sweetheart. Yeah. That's cute.

Yeah, that didn't last like super ages, as you'd expect. If you've got like, if you've got to get through six more, then there was like business woman. You'd be hollow. We want prenup at this stage, wouldn't you? Oh my gosh.

You think so? But clearly he doesn't learn. I mean, eight times. He married a production assistant. He married a former Playboy bunny. Did he? Yeah. Wow. And he had kids with a lot of these women as well. How many kids does he have? I can't remember. The thing I got stuck on was he lost two of his children in like one summer through unrelated health issues. Oh, that's horrible. Yeah, yeah.

He had five children. Five children to seven women. To seven women. He was married eight times. No, I'm counting six here. One, two, three, four, five, six. There could be more. He's got Larry King Jr.

They do that in America, right? I think maybe this is five alive. Right. Do you go with junior on your first one? If you're going to do it? If you're going to call your son like Larry King Jr., is that your first son you call him Larry King Jr.? Yeah, I would go with the first.

And is Loretta King Jr. an option? Yeah. If you never have a son? I don't know. But he was married a phenomenal eight times. Imagine the weddings. Did they sort of get down in size? Sure. And by the last one, you just go to Vegas.

Yeah. Just a registry office. Yeah. Just a registry office. But I was wondering if anybody can get close to that in New Zealand. Or even if you know someone. Surely not. Whose digits are getting up there. I feel like most people are like two, right?

Yeah. Oh, you hear of the odd like two or three. Yeah, like three of the odd two or three. Yeah, a few times the charm. I've never heard of anyone in New Zealand that's done more than two or three. No, neither. I'm at zero. I'm at one.

You're at one. You're at one. Megan, who's on maternity leave, she's at two. She's at two. Which we do remind her about. Oh, that's beautiful. And Fletch is at three, so that's quite the number. It just keeps going up. Okay, so you want to hear from people that are,

I mean, no one's going to ring up themselves and say I'm on my fifth marriage. Why not? They might have gone through the first four, the fifth. They're like, got it. It's happening. It's longer. Maybe they're just a proud, out and proud player.

They rush into things. Well, I mean, maybe you know of people here in New Zealand that are on, yeah, their multiple marriage, their umpteenth marriage. Give us a call. 0800 Giles at M. You can text them as well, 9696. I mean, what do we want to start with? At least more than two.

Yeah, more than two. Start low. I think we're going to have to start low because I don't think anyone's going to beat eight. More than two. Eight marriages. Two is the norm I reckon. The first one and then the good one. The warm up

and then the actual game. Who do you know that's had multiple marriages? Flesh, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. Larry King he was just an interviewer, right? He never really like fronted the news. Interviews were a specialty.

He's like kind of Anderson Cooper now. Anderson Cooper kind of took over from him. So he passed away over the weekend at the age of 87, and he had had seven wives. He'd been married eight times, so one of them twice. So he married again. That was the more unusual aspect of that. I thought his numbers were very high,

but who marries the same person more than once? Like if you got back together, you'd just be together, wouldn't you? Do you know he actually died. When he died, he was due in court to finalise his last divorce. Wow. He was going for number nine, baby. I'm not going back to court. Cough in my mouth.

And then, yeah, he may have passed away from COVID. And he had to pay them $33,000 per month in spousal support. What? That's good. That's good income. And one lump sum of $20,000. Oh, right. Okay.

It's a sneeze for him, isn't it? Really not even touching the sides of his deep wallet. So you want to know, Bourne, if this is a thing here in New Zealand? Yeah. How many times have people been married here in New Zealand? Somebody said my dad's on his third marriage. Okay. First was my mum.

Second was a money-hungry troll who we hated. And third is really nice. He can keep her if he likes. Oh, nice. Okay, so that's worked out then, hasn't it? Hoping dad keeps that one then. Christy, this is your uncle. Yes, my uncle's been married five times.

He's on the fifth wife now. On the fifth? Wow. And is it kind of a bit of a joke in the family? Kind of. He's been with the latest wife the longest. I think it's about three years. So it's a little bit of a joke. So three years and you're still calling her the latest wife, the longest. I think it's about three years. So it's a little bit of a joke.

So three years and you're still calling her the latest wife. Do you feel like this is not going to last? She'll probably stop that. What? Yeah. How old is your uncle? In his 60s now. Okay, it's still impressive to get that many down by the time you're in your 60s.

Yeah, so what was his longest marriage? I think it is the most recent one. So three years is the longest. Three years. Okay, so prior to that, he wasn't married for more than three years? No. Wow. Who was calling these marriages off?

Him or the partners? I think it's him. Oh, wow. The boy likes to move around. He's a common denominator here, though. Hey, thanks you call, Chrissy. Charlotte, what's Dad up to? Too much.

I want to say it's fourth. However, technically still married to the fourth, so this will be the fifth, I think. I'm pretty sure, to be honest, I've lost count, but there's been about four or five engagements and four coming on five. To be honest, I had to pick my mum and I was like, hey, mum, how many marriages have you had yet?

And she was like, four with four engagements. We've lost count to be quite honest. Four with four additional engagements. Yeah, I've been engaged more times than I've actually been married. Right. And so he... I really hope he doesn't listen to you guys. Is he seeing somebody new now so it could be five?

Yeah, so they're currently planning a wedding, but this is also going to be his technically 12th wedding anniversary, I think, with the other lady. So he's still married and he's planning his next wedding. Well, he needs to file that paperwork, otherwise he'll face charges because you can't do that, can you? He's polygamy. What number was your mum?

My mum was number two. Okay. Does he have kids to any of the other ladies? Yes. So he's, there's me and my two brothers with my mum and then the one that he's technically

still married to is my little brother and sister. Right. Christmas sounds fun. It sounds like extra presents. Charlotte, thanks for your call.

Anonymous, can you beat that? No. How many times? No, no, no. My mother-in-law's monster in all show. She's been married, I think it was like six times. Oh, you can beat that.

That wins. You're in the lead. Oh, and the one guy twice, sorry. My husband just yelled out. So that's one. So six times. I don't know how people marry them again. Like they've... Slow learners, I think.

That's a fair call. So when she married the same guy for the second time, how many people have been between their first and second marriage? Two. Imagine going to that wedding. No, thank you. And you've been to all of them. You don't sound like a huge fan, Anonymous.

You don't. No. Anonymous sex, you call. Can anyone else beat that? No one can beat six marriages. No one can beat six? Six is a lot. Five times.

I've got a family friend who's been married five times, but only to two different women. So he's just back and forth, back and forth. It's not ping pong, guys. No. He's 85 now and was a real player back in the day and also apparently quite indecisive. But what woman's taking a guy back?

Because if he's been married to two women, but five marriages, that means one of them's had him three times. She just wanted to win though, eh? Yeah. She did. It became a tale. It was first to win though, eh? Yeah. It did, it became a tell. It was first to five.

Women, we're very competitive. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan with Hayley Sproul. Refund your date. I depend on me. I depend on me. All right, so we have cash this week to give away for those dates that you've been on

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Oh, wait. So that's not the cost of the date. This is the cost of the repercussions of whatever happened. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Jess. Is this a soiling fee, Jess? Yes, yeah.

Wow. Okay, so start from the start. What happened? So I went on a Tinder date. It was after work on a Friday, and we were just going to meet up for a drink, and it was all good. Got there, and he didn't show up for ages.

I was like, okay. So I sent him a message and then it was like 45 minutes later, he shows up and he was absolutely smashed. Like, he could not say words properly. And I was like, okay, cool. So he was slurring, okay. Yeah, yeah.

Was this a bit of like Dutch courage or was he like preloaded and been at another event? He'd been at after work drinks that I think had started at like 1pm. Oh dear. Okay, right. Turning up to a date after six hours of solid drinking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like, I'll just have one drink and then I'll go home and try to be polite and just leave.

But 15 minutes in, I couldn't understand what he was saying. I was like, oh no. He had his eyes closed more than he had them open. Oh, that's the good stuff. That's the good stuff. When you're out somewhere and you're drunk and your eyes start closing, you're like, oh God. Uh oh. Someone get me home.

So I was like, oh, I have to take him home. I can't just leave him here. Yeah. So I managed to get him to stand up. And I was like, my car's not far away. We'll just walk there. Yeah. And he was like, yeah, all good.

Okay, cool. And so I was like walking him down the street, got him to the car. He got in the car, passed out. I don't know where he lives. So, I had to break into his phone. And, like, by

reading his, like, swipe pattern, like, trying to, like, the marks, I got to his phone and messaged the last person he had been messaging. It turned out to be his flatmate. I just want to commend you on you looked at the breezy Marks on his screen and you could decipher his sweat pattern. Somebody has been cheated on in the past, haven't they?

I thought you were going to pull his head back and face scan him. Yeah, that's like some Mission Impossible James Bond stuff. Yeah. Okay, and so you ring his flatmate. Yeah, and I was like, hey, I've got your friend. He's like, oh, here's my address. It's really close to my house, so I just dropped him off. So I got there and I pulled up and I messaged his flatmate.

His flatmate was walking out the door and I was about to open the car door and he vomited all down the side of the door. No! Wait, wait, wait. Do you have leather interior or fabric? Fabric. Oh, darling.

I'm so sorry. So it cost you $150. Yeah, to get my car cleaned. I would be knocking on that door and giving him the bill the next day. Well, so the next day I went out to my car to clean it, and I found his wallet. And so I was like, oh, I'll just send him a message.

And I went to go on to Tinder, and he had unmatched me. How dare you? What a shame. I'd say out of sheer embarrassment. There was no cash in the wallet to pay for it? No, no. Okay. You didn't think about using his credit card or FPOS card with that trick he used for the phone?

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quarter to eight about 30 seconds in oh Vaughan drop it she says that you're probably with that new girl yeah she's older and

I don't know taller and yeah looks better in a bikini. Great rack. Great rack. I believe that's the lyric. Naturally voluminous hair. Yeah. And smart.

Yeah. Tattooed eyebrows. Like, she's the whole package. Yep. But bald from the neck down. Absolutely. Not a smattering of hair to be seen. She is a blimmin' seal.

Not a follicle growing from the neck down. She says, it's everything that I'm insecure about. She doesn't cry. She does. She does. What a load of rubbish. Here is a load of rubbish. Hang on a sec.

I think it's about like 30 seconds. It was before that, wasn't it? Here, here. Here we go. Insecure. That's not it. It does not. It's a soft insecure. This is me as the producer.

Olivia, could we get that again? You went. And she's new, so she's terrified. I mean, it's only the number one song all over the world at the moment. Well, it could be number one plus if she re-recorded that line. Just that one little. It sounds fine. Hey, look, shocking news yesterday.

I was scrolling through the news and COVID's back, buh-bye. Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern is urging kindness this morning, saying imagine if it was one of your family members. Exactly. That tested positive. Because I think people are piling on this poor woman, who, by the way, has used probably the COVID tracer app better than most New Zealanders have in the last month.

Yeah, and thank God. But you sort of think that it's far away from you. We're in Auckland. Northland's not that far away. It's like, that's what, they said Northland. I was like, oh, you're talking Cape Reata. Yeah, Kere Kere. They said lower Northland. Yeah, as low as Hellensville.

Yeah. So I was hanging out with a big group of women at marching training yesterday. That's a different story for another day. Yep. And got home and we have a big group chat and so, you know, blah, blah, blah. We have a bit of a goss on there. And then one of our marching girls just texting that she lives in Whangarei, of course, and that she'd been in one of the same stores

as this woman. On the same day? No. But this was the revelation. She doesn't know this at the time. All you know is that this is the store that she was in and I went there. And then there was sort of this chat that continued going,

oh yeah, well, that's scary. And I went, um, guys, do you think we should do something about this? Considering we've just spent seven hours hanging out side by side, walking in unison. Breathing. Breathing, eating, everything. So yeah, and then I messaged you guys and I said, heads up guys, looking forward to the morning.

Week two on this new job. We were prepared just to cut you loose and burn you. I mean, I'm new, you know, I haven't made my mark yet. Anyway, but it was a bit of a rigmarole and then she had to, you know, go through the thing and she was using the tracker app as well and then you had to, then the government released the list of things and you've got to time it up

and then you ring the people and say this is what you've done and then they advise. So she had been in the store three days. Now which store was that one? She was getting some harnesses for her boobies at Bendon Outlet. Oh, the outlet. So, yeah, she loved some cheap underwear. Yeah. Those are,

correct me if I'm wrong, the Bendon Outlet, it's one of those, there's a lot of them. Is there still one in Gopu on the opening to the Coromanta Peninsula? People always call in on the way, they're like, oh, we're going to the beach, I better get some new knickers. Yeah, there's one in like Tito or Levin.

I might ship myself on holiday in the Coromandel. I better get some extra knickers. I better stock up on a pair of pennies. I better have 18 pairs of van pairs. Now, executive producer Antonania sent me a link here. If you want to do a company plug, there's a list of locations. The 30 locations are at the herald.co.nz slash nz slash coronavirus dash COVID dash 19 dash locations dash of interest dash visited.

There's a dash between the of and interest. Dash visited dash by dash Northland dash positive dash case dash revealed forward slash GQ5H K-A-N-G H-F-L-T. H-F-L-T. F-N-2-G. F-N-2-G. GQ5H KANG HFLT IFN2G NITZUB PPE Was PPE real? Sorry, PFE

I love it when they chuck in a question mark. Question mark, UTM underscore medium equals social and UTM campaign Facebook. Holy shit. So just head there. Do you need that address again? And if you missed that, you can just go to NZHerald

and it's the top story. There you go. Why didn't you say that? You've got a cross-reference. Right at the start of that web address, you just said Herald without putting NZHerald at the start. Oh, I'm going to have to give that address again. Do you want to go again?

What is that address again? We don't have time. Is it a secure site? What is that address again? We don't have time. Is it a secure site? Okay. Anyway, guys, I don't have COVID. She rung the health line that you're supposed to do and you tell them where you went at the same time, blah, blah, blah, and no symptoms, blah, blah, blah,

and they say don't worry about it. Because when it said Hellensville, I said to Sade, we were in Hellensville last week because we popped out. Remember I told you that really interesting story about going to get fertiliser? Oh, yeah. It was so interesting. How can we forget?

I just checked her times and our times. We were literally in Hellensville at the same time. But she was at the countdown when I was at the farm source, which are like 150 metres down the road. But we just went there and back and apparently she'd just arrived there so there was no cross-pollination. Lucky she didn't need farming goods otherwise

you'd be in quarantine right now. Well that's what everyone goes out for a big shop. You get your bras and you get your farming goods at the same time.

And you get your liquor. Put a foot and some knickers. Foot, knickers and something to drink on the way home. Knickers and knickers.

Yes. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. Sorry I was just distracted by Vaughan walking in from the bathroom, still doing up his belt.

Oh, no, what I did was I put my belt on, but then when I was walking, I was like, I've actually got another hole I can use here. That always feels good, eh? Oh, yeah, good. Don't show off when you're losing weight. To go in a tighter hole. Now, here's a hot, hot debate.

The Hemsworths, they're in Byron Bay at the moment. They are Australian, but predominantly LA-based. And people have been noticing that they're walking in Byron Bay at the moment. They are Australian, but predominantly LA-based. And people have been noticing that they're walking around Byron Bay in bare feet. No matter where they go, they are bare feet. It's a real happy town, though. Yeah, New Zealand equivalent would be like walking around Raglan in bare feet, right? Yeah. Absolutely.

So a lot of people are going like, good on you, mate, you know, living the Byron way. But some people are saying back off, Hollywood crap. Back off, Hollywood bare feet. Yeah, how dare you cash in on this trend. Bare feet, I don't know, everyone's saying, you know, we don't want to see your dry,

cracked heels out and about in the supermarket. It's a real Kiwi and Aussie thing to do, isn't it? Yeah, my partner loves his bare feet. I'm always reminding him when we're going somewhere where that just probably isn't right.

Like, do you want to chuck some shoes on? And especially, like, I guess recent years, health and safety, a lot of places won't let you in. Yeah. Like, some people try to get on planes sometimes without fit.

I always thought it was no shirt, no service, but now we're no shirt, no shoes, no gang patch, no service. No guns, no service.

Yeah, yeah. Anyway, we asked you guys. Wait, you said that wrong because that means I'd have to have a gang patch to get service. Yeah, no service. No guns, no service. Anyway, we asked you guys. Wait, you said that wrong because that means I'd have to have a gang patch to get service. Yeah, no patch, no service. No patch, service, no service. Yeah, no patch, no service.

Oh, you primarily only send serve patch gang members. How else are we going to know who you align with? Oh, right, okay. Anyway, we put up a poll, bare feet, in stores, yes or no? Yay or nay?

Acceptable or not? 23% of you said yay. Said that it's absolutely fine to be wandering around New World with your bare little toesies hitting that dirty ass floor and then taking it back into your own bed. See, I'd probably go into a dairy by the beach in bare feet. Yep. I think it

depends how close the supermarket or store is. A Westfield? Nah, definitely not. Westfield St Luke's? Have you ever walked around like a mall or anywhere with tiled floors? Supermarkets are another shot and then at the end you see how dirty their feet are at the bottom. Oh yeah, they're like black.

So the consensus is 77% of you say that it is just unacceptable to have bare feet in the store. I went to a supermarket overseas once on an island and I had bare feet. I drove to the supermarket, walked in, and people were looking at me like, what are you doing? Like the look of horror on everyone's face.

I was like, oh yeah, I'm not a New Zealand boy. Well, we're a shoes-off country. It's part of our culture. And you forget that, that the rest of the country, like, always wear shoes. It does make your feet hard and crispy, though. Then you're going to be hopping into bed with your nice, soft linen sheets, tearing them up.

They're dirty. Do you not wash before you jump into bed? No. Man, Kate. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. ZM. Hayley just whipped a hanky out of her bra and blew her nose. Again, for like the, I don't know, it feels like the 10th time at least.

Yeah. Now look, I'm wearing a pocketless outfit, so it's the only place for it to go. Was it last, because you're filling in for Megan on maternity leave. Vaughan, you noticed this last week. Yeah. You said, did you just shove a tissue down your bra? Yeah. And you said, yeah, it shove a tissue down your bra? Yeah. And you said,

yeah, it's full of them. I'm quite flat chested actually and all it is is just snotty tissues. It's all tissue, babe. It's all bogged down Kleenex, baby. Look,

something happened to me when I turned 30. I'm 31. Suddenly my nose became wet and it's just never stopped dripping for about two years. I'm in great health. Don't get me wrong.

But my nose is just a constant wet tap. Is it hay fever? Yeah, I'm an allergic girl. I'm allergic to the world and I don't do anything about it. Do you take an antihistamine? Oh, who's got time for that? Well, why don't you try and take an antihistamine and see if that stops you? I do antihistamine when I'm down in the countryside.

Oh yeah. Down the wairarapa but no, not on a daily basis but I've just sort of gotten used to it and I am constantly, I get anxious if I'm not around tissues or toilet paper. Right. And so I stuff myself full of them so that they're always there. But anyway, yes,

yesterday, as I mentioned earlier, I went to marching training and I constantly am pulling tissues out of my boobs and blowing my nose. And by the time you've had a sweaty long march, the tissue's not in a great state. No. And a girl in my team noticed this and yesterday she arrived with a wee gift

and it was a three pack of hankies. And now I'm 24 hours into using it and I'm a fan. You're on board with the hankies. And now I'm 24 hours into using it and I'm a fan. You're on board with the hankie. It's got more sort of structural integrity. It's not flaking away and turning into little bits. But they get damp and soggy. It's a big fit. They're quite big.

Yeah, growing up we had hankies because mum loves it. Boomers love a hankie, don't they? My nana was the hankie user and my nan is still a hanky user and they wear like a long sleeve top and they just tuck it in their sleeve and that's nasty you got snot on your s yeah that's where you go for the boob it's a little bit more sort of kept away i don't know i'm sort of into it i mean i feel like there's enough fabric there i'm looking down at it i feel like there's enough fabric there to really hold a lot more than my current tissue situation was doing. Right.

But they're a minefield. They're a nightmare because I blow my nose, a lot comes out. Like I don't just get like a little sniffle. See, no, but this is the thing. That's when you're like ill, right? You're blowing your nose, a lot comes out. Mine's just sort of a constant wetness. So it's not, I'm not filling it up with like.

Yeah, that's my problem. I don't even blow my nose when that happens. Honestly, I just recommend you guys give it a try. It was a three pack. We could all have one. No thanks. What is the current situation with hankies in the COVID times? Are you better?

We don't share and never share a hanky. Before COVID, when we were all about the eco, you would say pro hanky, but now, is that a bit manky to have a tissue around? Wouldn't you be better just to chuck it out straight away? It's not anywhere near you. If you look down there, it's hidden

in the handbag. I think on the website it does say, keep it in the bra. I think that's the official guidelines for the hankies there. Get it in your bra. I've got a question. How do I wash it? Do I wash it?

Would I wash it? That's a great question. Would you wash it with your nice t-shirts and jeans? Would you wash it with your tea towels? You know how you don't wash your tea towel

with your clothes? Well, you can get that little liquid stuff that kills all the germs. Yes. You could do that with like some tea towels. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or Dettol do one. Yeah. You could just do it with that. towels. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or Dettol do one. Yeah. You could just do it with that. But otherwise, I'd just chuck it in with the normal stuff. It all comes out.

It all comes out in the wash, as they say. You're just like, oh, yuck. Well, and also, how often? Because I'm,

this is, yesterday was my first day with it. I'm on day two with the same one. No, no, no. One day per hanky. Or when it becomes too wet and soggy, get a new hanky. Oh, no. One day per hanky. Or when it becomes too wet and soggy,

get a new hanky. Oh, God. One day per hanky. I've already stuffed it up. All right, I'll wash it. You'll see a new one tomorrow. But this was a gift. It was a gift.

So someone was just sick of you being snotty but also dragging around manky old tissues. Yeah, was she looking out for me or was she genuinely sick of standing next to me as I pulled out clumps of wet tissue and tried to blow into them? I think she was disgusted by you. She's rectified the situation. I want to go down the path here of the Passag gift.

Because it's like a present. So you're like, oh, my God, thank you. But at the same time, you get it and you're like, eh. It's like, you know what it's like? It's like buying someone a can of deodorant. Yes. I saw this and thought of you. No, you buy someone perfume as a gift,

but you can't buy them deodorant as a gift, like a $6 can of deodorant. You buy them a Lynx body set. And hope that they use the deodorant initially. That hurts. And you're down for a little bit of the body wash. Yeah, exactly. Doesn't hurt to wash.

Have you ever received a Passag gift? I don't think so. Have you? I can't think so. Have you? I can't think that I have. I was just trying to think what. But you're also not aware of your own bad habits, otherwise you'd probably stop it, right? Yeah.

Oh, well, I remember my wife bought me a voucher to have like a full groom once because she thought the bed was getting out of control. She doesn't like it when it gets too long. Nah, she doesn't. I had on a set, I had a costume designer buy me a bra and I think the passag about it was the one you're wearing is not doing anything.

So she was like, we'll put this on. It's full of manky old tissues. She's like, no, no, no, this is yours now. But we're talking about if you've ever received a passive-aggressive gift. Hayley received a hanky from somebody in her marching team. A hanky set. A hanky set. A three-pack.

You can't just buy one hanky anymore. Where do you buy hankies? Like Farmers or Kmart or something. Farmers, the supermarket maybe? No, Farmers. Maybe. It's just not something I've looked for. No. You never see it. I reckon just not something I've looked for. No.

I never see it. I reckon after this, this is going to blow up. Hanky South. Through the roof. Hankies. It's going to be hankies. 2021, the year of the hanky. Yeah.

It is for me. Some text messages in on the topic of passive aggressive gifts. Somebody said that they received a voucher for singing lessons. That's got to hurt. Real slap in the face because people had never heard that they were interested in singing. They just had sung. Yeah, right. And they received. That'd be terrible after like a night out on karaoke,

eh? And then you get that for your birthday. Let's chip in. Yeah. Get them some singing lessons because they've got the passion. They just suck. After a work trip where we shared a room, I was given a snoring nose clip. One of those nose clips is a Christmas gift. Do they work, those little pincers? I always see them online on like Facebook and stuff.

Yeah, on like wish.com. Hope, what passive aggressive gift did you get? So funnily enough, as you were speaking, I'm on my way to work, and I have it in my car. I put it on every morning. It's this beautiful, boutique-y, natural deodorant putty that I got as a gift. Oh. So you thought it was just nice and cute because it was boutique-y,

but now you're thinking, wait a minute, do they think I smell? It's so cute, but now... That's a really good way to do it, something sort of organic, bougie. You know, I got this from a Whole Foods place. Definitely. You know, a roll-on of Rexona. I mean, it is amazing. It's called a pitty party.

Oh, I know that one, Sarah's Day. Sarah's Day, it's beautiful. What is it, like a putty? Is it Day. Sarah's Day. It's beautiful. What is that? Like a putty? Is it like Play-Doh? It's like a natural balm. You warm it up in your fingers, slap it on your pits, don't smell. It's gorgeous.

Don't need to wear perfume. Don't need nothing. But now I'm like, why? Why did I get given it? What did you use before? Did you not use deodorant? No, I did. Okay.

But maybe it wasn't good enough. Pity because it's on your armpits. Yeah, that's it. Pity party. Not pity. Pity on you because you stink. Yeah, there we go. It's a pity you stink. Here's a pity party. Are you going to now

confront this person, Hope, that gave you deodorant as a present? I think I might. Joanna, I'm coming for you. Imagine if we started this ongoing tradition where you get Joanna a passage present. Are you good friends with Joanna? One of the best. Have you got her number there?

I do. Let's put you on hold. Is she not available now? She probably is. She's home with a baby. Let's get that on hold Is she not available now? She probably is She's home with a baby Let's get that bitch on the phone We're going to put you on hold Give the number to our producers

And let's get her on the phone As we read out some more text messages How badly she thinks her friend smells Let's see if she does smell I used to have bad acne And one Christmas Four different family members Chipped in for a facial package

Oh no no no no, no. You can't help that. Oh, hold on. No, they didn't. Four different, didn't chip in for one. They individually purchased that. The first one, I was like, oh, cool. But the fourth, I was like, okay, you guys need to talk about what we're getting people for gifts

because this is making me feel stupid. Four facials. Terrible. Four different, yeah. What did it say on the card? Sort it out. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, pizza. Four different, yeah. What did it say on the card? Sort it out. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas, pizza face.

Yeah. Somebody else said that they, I've had unwanted hair timing products as gifts. My stepdaughters once said, you got a lot of hair for a white girl, you got to get that under control. But then if someone was going to gift me like laser hair removal, you'd be stoked.

I would. That stuff's expensive, man. Yeah. But still, yeah, like you say. Yeah. I have noticed your mustache. Yeah, you thought your mustache was going under the radar, but it wasn't. My mother-in-law bought me Weight Watchers bathroom scales for my birthday.

Oh, you don't buy any gift to do with weight, do you? Scales is one thing, but if they're branded Weight Watchers scales. I have those scales. And they're, yeah, they're quite good. They do a lot of things. What else do they do? So they do like a full body scan. So you get your bone mass.

They've got these metal tectonic plate. Sensors. Yeah, sensors. And they run up your body and they get your water mass, your muscle mass, your bone mass. Is that a bullshit to you? It sounds like bullshit. It really does.

Apparently I'm like 0% body fat. I'm not sure these and my bones are super dense. Now, we just had Hope on the phone moments ago who received, and we're talking about passive aggressive gifts, a boutique-y tub of deodorant. Hope. Yeah. Hi.

You were gifted this by your friend Joanna who joins us on the phone. Good morning, Joanna. Hello. Joanna. Good morning, Jojo. Good morning. What the hell?

Well, we were talking about receiving passive-aggressive gifts, Joanna, as someone gave Hayley a hanky because they were sick of her sniffing and carrying around tissues. And that was when we heard from Hope that one of her very best friends had given her deodorant. And she had never thought about it,

but maybe now she realises that you think she smells funny. Confirm or deny. Yeah. Come at me, Jo. Jo. It was a gift because I knew you liked natural ingredients. Yeah. Well, that's what I thought.

And then this whole, you know, thing came on the radio as I was putting it on because it lives in my car, so it's ready to go. And I get on the way to work and literally putting it on as they start talking about deodorant as gifts. Hey! This is where you really quickly squash this. Joanne and I have been like

absolutely not. You always smell beautiful. But do you know she likes natural products because she's clearly not using anything chemical? You don't smell hot but you don't smell that bad. That bad! not using anything chemical. Yeah. Boo, dear. You don't smell hype. You don't smell that bad. That bad!

Not that bad. Oh! I think that your suspicions have been confirmed there. You've got that gift because you kind of smell a little bit. Right. I'm going to go now. Yeah. There's a lot to work out here.

I think you better. I'll give you a call a little bit later on the day, Joanna. Give you some time to think about what you've done. No, love you, Jojo. You suck. Wow, I would have at least lied. Thank you. Thank you, Hope.

Thanks. Good luck with that situation. We'll just pop them on. Have fun in there. Hold. Hope we haven't ruined a friendship there. Should we send them a voucher to go out to dinner or something? I feel bad.

Nah. You've only made money. You can't just fill in for Megan And then promise If anything We've got to find out something Here's a $300 voucher We need to find out something about Joanna

That Hope thought was a little bit iffy And then sent her I think we've ruined that friendship We've done enough here ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day is about the world's rarest plant. Okay.

It's Camellia jibiconica, Middlemist's red. Is that that flowery thing that opens up every, like, something years and everyone's like, ooh, here it comes? No, rarer than that. Okay. Rarer than that. Apparently, it was Chinese of origin, but I don't know what happened. I've researched as I might.

I can't find why it's all died out in China. It was from one specific area of China that it was native, and there are only two bushes of it left in the entire world. One in London. It's a camellia. It looks like a rose, but it's a camellia. Camellias are everywhere in New Zealand. They litter our streets.

Yeah, but this is a very specific sort of camellia, the middle mist red. There's only two. Do they have any seeds in the seed vault in Norway? I don't know. How does a camellia seed? I always thought you'd just take a cutting, which is why I can't understand that there's not more of them.

They've got that little yellow stuff in the middle of the flower. Surely it's a... That when the flower dies off, the seeds are left in there. Well, I can't understand why there's not been more work into preserving this than getting them out there. There's only two. One of them is in London. Yeah.

The other is planted at the Treaty House in Waitangi in New Zealand. Whoa! One of the rarest camellias in the world. I feel very proud. I do too, but I tell you what, I can't find a photo of it up there. It's mentioned that it was in New Zealand and England. And I was like, oh, where is it? And it went through where it was in London.

But it took me a bit of research to find where in New Zealand it was planted. Well, we need to send someone's mum or nana over to the treaty grounds to take a clipping. Yes. They'll know how to replicate it. Yeah. I don't know why they haven't given it a chance. But yeah, so it said botanical Gardens in London and then New Zealand. I figured it might be

in the Auckland Botanical or the Christchurch or the Wellington. No, it's just on the track. Who's just naming Botanical Gardens in New Zealand? Hamilton.

Hamilton Gardens. Hamilton Gardens. Is that a botanical though? I don't know if it's botanical actually. What constitutes a botanical? I think they've got to have a glass house.

Yeah. That's what I... I don't want to say it because I thought it sounded stupid but I thought it was thought about being a massive glass house. I don't know. I don't know what say it because I thought it sounded stupid, but I thought it was thought about being in a massive glass house.

I don't know. I don't know what makes it botanical gardens, but maybe it is the glass house. Well, someone needs to get on to that. Yeah. So we could do our bit to help. Imagine killing it, though. Or like you're mowing the lawns at the treaty house

and you reverse over on the right. Oh, my God. There's only one left in the world. You can hear camellias. They grow over around it. Oh, dear. It There's only one left in the world. You can eat camellias. They grow over around here. Oh, dear. It was the middle mist red. So today's fact of the day,

the rarest plant in the world with only two surviving bushes. One is planted at the treaty grounds in Waitangi. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Yeah. Day, day, day, day, day. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. Well, he's been on hold with Dua Lipa for two minutes. Loves a bit of Dua Lipa, a bit of time out. Huge fan of Dua Lipa and joining us on the phone, Minister for COVID Response, Chris Hipkins.

Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. So, I mean, you're obviously, you sound like you're in, are you in transit? You're a busy man. You've got a million places to be. We're not, yeah.

I mean, I'm sure you're busy every day, but yesterday must have taken a real turn for you today. Yeah, look, it is pretty busy at the moment. Obviously, the key thing in cases like this is the first 48 hours is where you get the most useful information to make decisions on. So we're still assembling

information which will help to inform further decisions. Bit of extra information in overnight though, which is good. We've had our first two close contact test results in and they've both come back negative. So that's the woman's husband and her hairdresser. And they would, you know, they would be the most at risk people

and they've come back negative. So that's good news. Okay. When will they be tested again? Yeah. As a follow-up test? Because they're isolating, right? But that hairdresser may have seen people afterwards,

but like when's their follow-up test? So they'll get further tests in a couple of days' time, probably. But they'll continue to isolate just to make sure that we're stamping this one out. When are we likely to know which strand of COVID-19 this is? Like if it's one of the new variants? I'm hoping that we'll have that information by the time I do an update later on today. They're just in the process of doing the genomic sequencing now.

Is it the return to the 1pm presser? Possibly. We haven't quite figured that out yet. Basically we'll schedule the next update when we've actually got more information. At this point I'm hoping that we'll have more information by 1 o'clock, so possibly at 1 o'clock, but it'll just depend on how long

it takes us to get the next batch of information through. Right, so all of the locations that she visited are on the website, and people that were using the COVID Tracer app and scanning, and they would have received a notification last night as well? That's right.

So if you scanned into one of those locations around the same time, it's been identified as an exposure or potential risk, then you will have had a push notification saying, hey, please go and get a test and stay home until you get the test result. The list is now on the Ministry of Health's website. A lot of the media outlets are picking it up and publishing it as well, which is also quite helpful.

I mean, we're so lucky that she was using the app as often as she was, aren't we? Oh, look, it is a really good example of why this all matters. The person concerned had Bluetooth turned on, which has been helpful. They've been scanning everywhere they've gone. And that means that we're already sort of one step ahead when we have to go through the contact tracing process. So it really speeds things up. Can you explain?

We did a very bad job of trying to explain the Bluetooth function on the app. How does it actually work? You turn it on, but you still have to keep scanning into places, don't you? That's right. So they tell us different bits of information. So if you've got Bluetooth turned on, it'll tell us who you've come into contact with, but not where you came into contact with them. Whereas scanning the codes tells us where you've been.

And it's the combination of those two bits of information that can actually be really, really useful in a situation like this. So if 10 people were in a store and one of them had COVID, but nobody scanned in, but they all had Bluetooth on, would you know that they were in contact with that person? Yes, that's possible, but we wouldn't necessarily know the nature of the contact. So it's the combination of the information that's really helpful.

So keep scanning. So I think that was the confusion that people were thinking, maybe they'd turn their Bluetooth on and that's it. But they have to keep scanning actively. That's right. So the two things work hand in hand. And when they work hand in hand together, they can actually be really, really effective.

Now, this is the first time that there's been a case in the community since the Bluetooth update to the app. How many extra people did that let you know that this person had been close with compared to just the check-ins? Is there any stats on that yet? No, we haven't got that information as yet. Generally speaking, we don't know who gets the push notifications because that data sits on the people's phone. So we don't sort of pull the

information back. Your phone figures out whether you should get that notification or not. So it's designed to protect everybody's privacy, but people will have received the notification by now if they needed it. I saw a graph at the end of last week and it was quite shocking. The number of people using the app was very low. Do you know how many people have actually turned on Bluetooth? Is that low as well? No, I'm going to try and get that information for the update later today. We've seen a reasonable uptake, but it's not, I think,

the last time I saw it, it was sitting around half a million, I think. But, you know, obviously we want more people switching it on. Do you know, Chris, I reckon I've got a pretty good way to get people to turn on the app, turn on the Bluetooth scanner, and you should give away Smeg knives. Yeah. Ask any new world. Yes. Yes.

Ask any new world, that shit goes off. Yeah. Tell them there are free stickers and knives on the app. February 10 check-ins, they get some sticker and they can use those stickers to redeem for knives. Hello. Hey, Chris Hipkins, thank you so much for keeping us updated on your busy morning this morning.

Really appreciate it. No worries, guys. Thanks. All right, thanks. And don't forget, of course, if you've got the app, open it up, turn it on. Turn on the Bluetooth, scan in, do it. You fools.

That's only for people who haven't been scanning it. We don't want to be locked up again. No, please in, do it. You fools. That's only for people who haven't been scanning in. We don't want to be locked up again. No, please. Just do it. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Yesterday I instigated a classic dad rule. You've had enough screen time. Get off and do something else.

That's fair. How did that go down? Why we don't have anything to do. What do you do when you're a kid and you throw that in your parents' face? Yeah. And they're like, yes anything to do. Which, you know when you're a kid and you throw that in your parents' face? Yeah. And they're like, yes, you do. And when you're a kid, you think it's pretty harmless.

But when you hear it as a parent, you're a bit more like, how dare you? I've provided this life for you. Look outside. What do you see? A world of a bunch of creatures. So then I went about my business, whatever I was doing,

and then August came out and said, would you like to come to my tattoo shop? And she'd opened a tattoo shop. Did she have a QR code? It was just within our house. Right. And we were the only customers. Well, after starting a business.

Oh, yeah, well, she's acquired. She's obviously registered it for tax. I'll be laying complaint. Do you have tattoos? No. Sade? No. Soade? No. So where did this

tattoo idea come from? I don't know. They talk about tattoos a lot because my parents are so anti-tattoo. I think every time my parents have them and they just got back

from a week with my parents, they must get this like, and remember when you grow up, don't get any tattoos. Like all the time when they see people with tattoos and they're like,

oh yuck, don't get any of those when you grow up. Because how long did your earring last with your dad? Probably about two minutes after he saw it. Vaughn had an earring. And not on the lobe, on the top.

That was the year 2000. Come on. A long time ago. Do you have any etnies as well? I couldn't afford etnies in 2000. Good God, those were expensive shoes. We laugh now and we scoff, but those were expensive shoes. Comfortable is all buggery too, is all I'm cool. They were big and chunky though, weren't they?

God, they were. They had a lot of girth. I just got an earring to wind my dad up because I went and picked him up from the airport the next day and he didn't say anything when we were pushing the luggage to the car. He said, that better be out by the time we leave this car park. That was all he said. And he didn't even look or point to the earring.

He just said it and I knew what he was talking about. It was a was all he said. And he didn't even look or point to the earring. He just said it. And I knew what he was talking about. It was a test. And he won. And you took it out straight away. Yeah. I took it out. Your parents would not have handled me.

Oh, I've seen the photos. I don't know what they would have done. I had a myriad of holes in my face. Mum would have been very worried that you'd listen to an excess amount of Marilyn Manson as well. Yeah, I did. I wasn't allowed to go to the big day out the year he was there because Satan. Because he was in cahoots with the devil himself.

So there was a tattoo shop. I asked August where she'd seen it. I'm sure she said TikTok. If you print out on any paper, if you print out a black and white, like an outline of a figure or whatever, it can be a logo or anything. And then you cut around it and you spray it with perfume

and then you put it face down on skin and then put a wet towel over it for a minute. And then when you take it off, you can see the outline of what you just printed out. Oh, the ink's transferred onto you. Hang on. It's like a really low budget version of what we used to do with like... A little lick and stick.

...trim and gum stickers. Yeah. So where did they get the perfume from? budget version of what we used to do with like chewing gum stickers yeah so where did they get the perfume from because how saturated does this have to be in perfume

and I and did Sade know that they were hooking into a Givenchy we gave them indie perfume for a birthday

and then August was like well I've got to have some yeah she's awfully awful smelling child and so August had to so they got a bottle each so now we've got an empty Katy Perry and an empty Aaron Adrande.

Perfect, because they were doing so many tattoos. But I got a tattoo. It's gone now. It's washed off. But I got an Iron Man tattoo. Oh, nice. Okay. That was pretty cool.

Did you say stop being pussies, get out the compass and rip open a pen? Let's get prison tats. Let's get prison tats. So anyway, they gave me one and then they gave each other a couple of little Among Us ones and then they went quiet and I didn't think anything of it. Okay. I was like, well, they've done what they've said.

I said, no screens, they're not on screens. They went quiet and then August comes out and she's like, I've got a big one. I was like, what? She lifts up her shirt. She had a tattoo the size of her back. A back piece?

She printed out a whole A4 sized floral, like it was a From an Adult's Coloring In book. Oh, yep, yep, yep. She found it online and printed it out, dosed it in perfume, put it on her back, and then Indy wet a whole towel and put it on her back and sat on her to get the pressure, and she had a full back

tattoo. And she's like, what do you think? I was like, it's massive. And she's like, yeah, but do you like it? I could get one of these when I get older. I was like, you need to go and stay another week withanner and Papa.