ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 29th April 2021

Episode Date: April 28, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, welcome to the Fleeche Morning, Megan with Hayley Sproul podcast by 5 McCafe Coffees. Get one free on the Maccas app. Lovely new top today, Hayley. Thank you. It's coming at a cost though, I tell you what. A dangerous one considering it's grey mail. How many times has Hayley, during the course of today, said it's very warm in here? And we're in t-shirts and you're in your new jumper, which you don't want to take off because it's new. Because it's new, it's new all right it arrived yesterday in the mail and i thought i love getting new things and then wearing them straight away and it's like a sweater with shoulder pads yeah i really like it i'm sort of into it too and
Starting point is 00:00:35 i thought i'll wear that today um and i was like you know it's getting it's getting later in the year and and it'll be all right um and be alright And now I've just been hot all day Yeah And I'm nervous because it is a very light grey marl Oh you're expecting the sweat to pop through Oh any second now it's going to come through But that's the price I wasn't going to wear an old top today
Starting point is 00:00:58 I wanted a brand new one Is that unisex? I don't think you could pull that off You don't think I could wear that? It's croppy. You never try. The only thing is you can't try it now because I'm not wearing anything underneath because that was the price. I thought I'll just wear the sweater.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Right. Because if I wear a t-shirt. I wondered why you were taking it off but still complaining about being hot. I did think about it this morning. I was like, maybe I should pack a t-shirt just in case I get really, really hot. Because if I had to do the show in a bra i think there'd be some cancellations or i yeah i the thought of going out in a sweatshirt with nothing underneath it blows my mind i can't do it i wouldn't risk that i've got a brassiere
Starting point is 00:01:35 on but not no i know yeah but like yeah why i just i because of course i'd freak out that i'd get hot i couldn't do anything about it yeah well I just lifted up then And the back skin is smothed Oh it's very moithed The smothed We've got to lick your home ZM Hit music Lives here
Starting point is 00:01:54 Flesh, fawn and Megan The podcast Coffee drinkers listen up I'm looking at the two of you When you wake up in the morning One of the first things you'd think about and go for is a coffee right uh when i get to work yeah i'll have breakfast and followed up by a delicious mccona instant coffee beautiful work there yeah and at what point do you brush your
Starting point is 00:02:19 teeth i assume you brush your teeth before work before work before work and then before bed right so you guys are doing it right. So a lot of people, maybe if you're working a more normal shift, would go wake up, have a coffee, and then brush your teeth before you go to work. At the weekends I'll do that. Yeah, I'll have breakfast, coffee, and then brush teeth. Yeah, so then you're not going around your day with stanky coffee breath. You have a fresh mouth.
Starting point is 00:02:45 But apparently that is not the way to do it. According to who? Scientists. Right. Scientists, believe me. No, dentists are saying this. So you should brush your teeth before you have a coffee because if you have coffee stains your your teeth obviously it's something like
Starting point is 00:03:06 that cigarettes red wine coffee um if you haven't brushed away your plarkiness um first it's more likely to stain your teeth because it's got more to kind of grip onto. Whereas if you've just brushed them... If you've just brushed them, it's a... Something just fell over in the studio. If you've just brushed them, they don't have as much sort of to rub against and connect to the coffee. And also, coffee adds acidity into your mouth apparently and they're saying that you don't want to brush your teeth
Starting point is 00:03:42 straight after a coffee because of the acidity then you're causing an abrasiveness and that acidity gets into your teeth and it'll break them down faster right so what are you supposed to do after a coffee swirl around some mouthwash this is exactly what one
Starting point is 00:03:59 person's saying, oh god we've got a dental staff not mouthwash but just water to help neutralise your sensitivity level. Oh yeah, just water. Now coffee does have water in it. Does that count? With my last sip out of the cup, which is often cold at the bottom, I give it a bit of a... No, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Oh no. Get it between all the teeth. Oh no, you're supposed to just swish it out with water. So wake up, brush your teeth, then have your coffee. I don't know anyone that does that. Yeah, but then your coffee tastes a bit pepperminty. Pepperminty, ruined. Or whatever mouth flavour toothpaste you use.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Yeah, they're saying alternatively you could chew some sugar-free gum to help get rid of that sort of khaki mouth. I'll only chew sugar in the place of gum. Yeah, saliva neutralises your pH in your mouth, so you want to just have your mouth doing its own neutralization as opposed to adding in some acidic. Like a self-cleaning hole. The body is just full of self-cleaning holes. The body is full of them.
Starting point is 00:04:52 All the holes are pretty much self-cleaning. Mine more than yours. Yeah, you've got an additional. Yep. Obviously. Yeah, you shouldn't. So there you go. Wake up, brush your teeth, get it all minty fresh, and then shove a delicious cup of Macona instant coffee in there
Starting point is 00:05:06 because it haft mere. Fleshfauna Megan, the podcast. ZM. Guys, as a parent, a tired parent, but also mostly tired because of the job, not the parent. Yep. I'm very lucky to have children that sleep. And he's a chronic sleep talker.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Oh, really? She'll do that thing where you'll just kind of wake up and there'll be a silhouette of a child standing in your doorway. The light from the hallway floods around her and she'll be like, the guinea pigs. Okay, that sounds good. The what? She'll be like, they've gone to the moon, the guinea pigs have.
Starting point is 00:05:41 You'll be like, okay, cool. Do you want to go back to bed? They've taken the trailer. And it goes on and on and it's always like super nonsensical and then you wake her up and she's really like sad and confused. But they love a sleep in.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Well, no, they just get up and look after themselves. So they don't wake you up at the weekends. They get up, they roll me a few cigarettes. They make sure they... Or pop her a drink. They turn the mash in the still to make sure Pappy's whiskey's going on. Okay, it's not the 1800s. They just get up and eat if they're hungry and just watch YouTube and stuff.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Oh, sweet. Okay. Yeah, but they also like sleep. They go to bed maybe a little bit later than they should, but there's a study out that says that parents, two-thirds of parents haven't had a good sleep since they were a teenager. Oh, that makes me feel sick. What about before they had kids?
Starting point is 00:06:31 So they talk about the fact that it goes, when you leave home, you go to college, you're likely to be doing all-nighters because you've partied all night and then you've got to do all your assignments. So there's that all night. Or if you straightaway go into the workplace you're in your party years so you don't and then it gets to the next period
Starting point is 00:06:48 of your life where you may be experiencing like a little bit of job stress a little bit of maybe the career's not going where I want it to do the industry
Starting point is 00:06:55 or you are working a lot because you're a junior in the role or thinking what's the next step and then you have kids and you at that stage
Starting point is 00:07:04 people who don't have kids seem to get some sleep and then if you don't have kids a lot of sleep you get a lot of sleep so much sleep don't you you guys are always just like sleeping
Starting point is 00:07:11 and stuff and then oh what's it like just to be like in the weekend be like I might have a two hour nap yeah absolutely
Starting point is 00:07:17 yeah it's great it's so good I'm just gonna sit down on the couch wake up and there's no one being like hey what are we doing's what are we doing today what are we doing today where are we going remind you at this point that was your choice oh 100%
Starting point is 00:07:30 the positives far outweigh the negatives but this is i'm just chucking the chucking a bone to parents here i'm feeling a little bit tired um this this is stats this is statistical so you can like you can take this wow and not since like they were a teenager that is crazy they've had a full blown a full blown sleep so you know seven to nine hours is the recommended and the average parent that was surveyed and this is doing about five and they reckon now kids won't leave home until they're like 42. yes so you're screwed basically until you die if you have kids it's actually super bad not to sleep, isn't it? Like your circadian rhythm is off, which stuffs with your guts, and then your gut is the core of your being and all that.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And then your guts get fat because you're eating chips. Yeah, because you're awake more hours, so you might as well be eating more hours. Exactly. And you won't get a good sleep until you die. Well, the good news is that's not that far away. Then your blood pressure's going through the roof. Okay, this is going downhill, guys.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I just love little Vanessa, you know. She's like, I'm still alive. I'm like, everything will be alright. Sorry, I'm just going to have a little stroke. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Come on, get it started. Come on, get it started. Get it started.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Don't get Fletch started. Don't get Fletch started. In here, don't get Fletch started. Get it started. Don't get Fletch started. Don't get Fletch started in here. Don't get Fletch started. Don't get Fletch started in here. Yeah. Carl Peter Jorge Fletcher. I did not know that was your full name. It is.
Starting point is 00:08:58 It is. From his Spanish grandfather, who was also a Jorge. Yep. George. George to his friends. Yeah. George to his friends. Yeah, George to his friends. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on people playing their music loudly from either their phones or a sort of a back-clipped speaker whilst in transit.
Starting point is 00:09:18 You know I do, Vaughan, because I literally told you before. What? About this. I had no idea. So you mean when people are like not just listening to their own music
Starting point is 00:09:28 but projecting it Yes to outward people Now I know people talked about this over summer and it always rears its head over summer because of people
Starting point is 00:09:36 take like the portable speakers to the beach Yeah The beach is noisy though unless you're on a very No no no no no no quiet beach
Starting point is 00:09:43 or a packed beach A beach is noisy with beautiful. Unless you're on a very quiet beach. Or a packed beach. A beach is noisy with beautiful sounds of the ocean. No, people. The laughter of young children playing Koob. I don't want that. I'm actually with you on this one. I spent summer by the river, and it was the same thing. It was everywhere.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And you'd hear other people's noise. Was there warring factions of speakers down by the river? No, there was just one particular group each day see i don't mind if you're on say a beach or a camp and you know there's lots of people around have it like it at a little volume oh yeah background this is what i saw uh yesterday was somebody walking down queen street with a speaker oh yeah that that happens and like it was loud i'm like just get. But they want you to hear it as well. I don't want to hear their music.
Starting point is 00:10:28 It's rubbish. I sound like a boomer now. Yeah, you're such a boomer thing. I don't want to hear your bleep bloop skinny deep apps. I can't understand a goddamn word he's saying. It's not even music. What were they listening to? Was it like a hippity hoppity?
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I didn't recognize the song. Not your music. Not my music. But very aggressive sounding. You see it quite a bit, hey? Young people, I don't know if it's the funky, funky jams now.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But that's what you do. They love pumping the funky, funky jams. Yeah, it's a next step up. When I was a teenager, I was a goth very early on. And I used to blast Marilyn Manson out of these quite cheap headphones so everyone could hear it. And one day, an old lady complained. And I was just listening on my headphones, and it was so loud. Where were you?
Starting point is 00:11:12 On the bus from Eastbourne to my high school. Oh, wow, on the bus. Yeah, and the woman was like, turn that worship off. Turn that devil's worship off. Yes, well, she obviously knew it was Marilyn Manson, though. Yeah, but imagine if I had been in the back of the bus blasting The Beautiful People by Marilyn Manson on a speaker. Yeah, with a portable speaker. I wouldn't do that. I don't know, I just think in public, just we headphones.
Starting point is 00:11:32 Unless you're going to find a beach or a park and there's no one around, sure. I don't know, it just winds me up. They're just shoving it in your face. I mean, you were trying to walk down Queen Street enjoying nature's beautiful sounds The symphony of nature that it provides The buses The smells of urine
Starting point is 00:11:51 The screaming People living rough who want something from you Or just want something off someone else The buses hissing past How dare they disturb that Beautiful scenery All the sounds of nature. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan.
Starting point is 00:12:07 The podcast. ZM. A new survey has been looking into which country is the most forgiving? What are our levels of forgiveness? Germany. Oh, that's forgetfulness. Well, Germany makes the list
Starting point is 00:12:24 at number two for most forgiving. I was going to say, with their past. Yeah, they've kind of got to be, don't they? Yeah. A little bit forgiving. Bit of a dusty old path. Dusty. Dusty old path there.
Starting point is 00:12:37 But yeah, so they interviewed 8,000 people living all across the world about many things, their likelihood of forgiveness, how they perceive other countries, grudges they may hold. And using all that information, they analyzed our most forgiving countries. Bottom of the list,
Starting point is 00:12:55 United Kingdom. Really? Yeah, the UK, mate, we don't forget. We don't move on, you know? Grudge holders, yeah. Grudge holders. I always put it down to my Irish ancestry for like stubborn non-forgiveness.
Starting point is 00:13:09 You are probably the most stubborn non-forgiving people I know. I think I'm forgiving, but I hold a grudge. Like in my actions, I'm forgiving, but internally the grudge still lives on. No, see, I'll always remember it, but I won't. I'll move on because you just,
Starting point is 00:13:24 you spend so much time. You're a grudge holder, worrying and thinking about it, but I won't. I'll move on because you spend so much time. You're a grudge holder, worrying and thinking about it. It eats away at you. It's cancer to the soul. Just above them, Spain. The Spaniards. As in the least forgiving. Least forgiving.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Okay. And then we sort of move into the middle forgivies. The Francies, the Canadas, the Chinas. Most forgiving, just ahead of Germany, United States of America. Really? They're the most forgiving country. Most forgiving country out there.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Do you think that's a religious thing? Like there's a lot of religious people? I wonder that as well because it's, yeah, it's a heavily religious country. But forgive and forget's not exactly the United States motto, is it? No, I wouldn't have. No.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Because it's quite me first, isn't it? Number one, looking after number one. Yeah, and where is New Zealand on the list? New Zealand's not even on the list. So I don't know what that means. Do you think overall we're forgiving? We're pretty easygoing and laid back. That would make us quite forgiving.
Starting point is 00:14:22 But I don't think we're forgiving. No, yeah, i feel like we're a bit of a grudgy nation yeah we're very great certainly in the uk though god what do you do if you piss your neighbor off they're never gonna forget no i know they're never gonna forgive you and they're quick for a battle as well you know like you bump shoulders in the uk and they're like all right mate you want to go you want to go want to go? But then in the US if you bump shoulders they just shoot you. Yeah, that's way more done right.
Starting point is 00:14:49 They're returning them back to God. Ultimate forgiveness. Yeah, but I remember the first time I ever went to London I was in one of those black cabs with my mum. Very excited to be there. Whole new world. And then the cabbie got cut off by another cabbie
Starting point is 00:15:06 and he scraped the side of it. And they just stopped in the middle of the flimmin' city of London, got out and started having an absolute barney with each other, shoving and pushing and stuff. Me and Mum were sitting in the back of this taxi and we're going, excuse me. Did he pause the meter?
Starting point is 00:15:20 Can we go? Oh, I can't even remember. We got out. Oh, you just left. Yeah. And I bet you now, being as unforgiving as they are, he still thinks about that as much as I do. I think you're going to say they can't
Starting point is 00:15:30 forgive Uber and they certainly haven't. No. No. They're quite upset about that. Oh, very upset. Massive strikes in London. What, the cabbies? Yeah. Yeah, but they're an icon. They're different to our cabbies. Okay, mate. Just get over it. Just forgive and forget. Budget City Sale Cabs is an icon also.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Econo Cabs is an icon. I won't have you say a bad word about our cabbies. When was the last time you got into the back of one of those? Four years ago. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. From the ZM Think Tank, this is the Top Six. Today's Top Six is looking at the fact that today is the 10 year wedding anniversary of Wills and Kate. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And it's the top six ways. Congratulations. Wills and Kate will be celebrating their 10th wedding anniversary. We celebrated our 17th, what, three weeks ago? Yes. Working anniversary. Yeah. So we're beating them by seven.
Starting point is 00:16:21 About six months ago I celebrated my own 10th wedding anniversary. Yeah. Me and Aaron are 10th wedding anniversary. Yeah. Me and Aaron are 10 years together in three weeks. Really? A decade? God, we're all, well, a busy decade it's been. Yeah. Well, I noticed yours and mine were personal.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Fletcher's is purely professional. Yeah, I can't stand people for more than a day. What's your 10-year personal anniversary? A lot. A lot, yeah. A lot. Many. Many of them.
Starting point is 00:16:51 So I've got the top six ways Wilson Kate will be celebrating their 10th wedding anniversary. Number six on the list, yelling at their kids. Yeah. Classic. That oldest one looks like he's got a streak.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Oh, he'd be mischief, eh? George. George. What are their names? George. Charlotte. their names? George. Charlotte. Cindy. And Adolph.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Adolph. Trying to reclaim their name. They've got some German heritage there. Strong name, they thought. Let's try to give this a go. It's nearly been 100 years, they said. Number five on the list of the top six ways Wills and Kate will be celebrating their 10th wedding anniversary.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Ticking another day off the calendar of not watching the Oprah special with Meghan and Harry, They have watched it. Surely. 100%. They've watched that and The Crown. They say they don't, but they do. It would be so hard to watch. Number four on the list of the top six ways Wills and Kate will be celebrating their wedding anniversary
Starting point is 00:17:44 are arguing about what's for dinner. Yeah. Just like any other couple, aren't they? Number four on the list of the top six ways Wills and Kate will be celebrating their wedding anniversary. Arguing about what's for dinner. Yeah. Just like any other couple, aren't they? Do they have chefs and stuff in the palace? Yeah, that would be so handy. They pretty just turn up. If I was them, I'd just turn up and just get what was given to me.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I'd say to them, just mix it up and every day would be a surprise. If I had that kind of access to wealth i would make requests like what imagine what do i feel like right now i feel like tacos fish tacos so i'll go there to the kitchen and be like you know what we're gonna have fish tacos tonight and they'll be the best most delicious yeah they would be oh and then the last minute i'll be like i want a curry and they've got to just throw out the tacos. Yeah. Yeah, just so wasteful. I don't want this anymore.
Starting point is 00:18:30 You can see how this could become problematic. Yeah. This fish isn't tarakihi. This is... Send to the Antipodes for some of those New Zealanders to send us some tarakihi. Number three on the list of the top six ways Wills and Kate will be celebrating their 10th wedding anniversary. Making a platter to eat while watching Netflix Just something casual
Starting point is 00:18:49 Just something thrown together Just a little platter We don't want to do much What do you get the future king of the world For an anniversary gift? A float tank A voucher A voucher or a whole float tank
Starting point is 00:19:03 A whole float tank A whole float tank Eitherer or a whole float tank? A whole float tank. A whole float tank. Either or. And a few boxes of the salts. Yeah. The salts that you put in. Yeah, nice. It just reminded me, I've got credit at a float place.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Do you? Yeah. I went in for a float and I was talked into the group float purchase, the concession card. Wait. I thought you meant you all get together and float? I was like, get me out of here. Yeah, that sounds horrible, being in a float tank with other people. It sounds horrible in general.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Okay, really big, like I'm talking a room-sized float tank, complete darkness. No, because when there's silence and I'm around people, all I want to do is like have a little laugh, a little giggle. What kind of people are in there? Well, you don't know because it's dark.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Hotties. You can assume hotties, but it's not. Tank full of hotties. Okay, we've just asked someone onto one of Hayley's dreams. Yeah, being in a salty tank full of honeys. Number two on the list of the top six ways Wills and Kate will be celebrating their 10th wedding anniversary. Finally taking her wedding dress to the dry cleaners.
Starting point is 00:20:08 That'll get hung up the next day and I'll put it on a to-do list that never gets done. Yeah. Where does that thing go? Because it's huge. Because people store them. Some people sell them, but most people store them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:20 That acid-free paper. Well, what's the point? You're going to get it out in 10 years, you're never going to fit the dress. Exactly. So one day your kids can just find this weird material hanging in the cupboard, take it with a pair of snips, and, you know, you burst into tears,
Starting point is 00:20:32 you scream at them a bit. Yeah. They're like, I don't know the significance of it. My mum wore a white suit to her wedding with my dad, and then afterwards she put it in mine and Sam's dress-up box, and we just dressed up in it for our whole childhood. Wow. Yeah, she didn't care.
Starting point is 00:20:47 She had four guests. Look at me. I'm boys to men. Your mum's like, I can see that, actually. I do look a little like boys to me. And number one on the list of the top six ways Wills and Kate will be celebrating their 10th wedding anniversary, photoshopping Harry out of all the wedding photos.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Just get him out. Magnet around him. Very easy to highlight him. And then just get rid of him. That is today's top six. Fleshwarner Megan, the podcast. ZM. Fleshwarner Megan with Hayley Sproul. Refund your date.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I depend on me. I depend on me. If you've had an absolute shocker of a date, we want to give you the money back that you spent on that utter waste of time. And Lauren, you had an utter waste of time. I really did. Tell us all about it. What happened? This guy moved in next door.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Oh, okay. Alarm bells are already going off for me. Yeah, exactly. Should have learnt. He was decent looking. Asked me out on a date. He was decent looking. Yeah. Asked me out on a date. He said we would go out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 That was great. We met up. He was half cut. Oh, okay. Bit of Dutch courage. Pretty boozed. Are you allowed to say that? Dutch courage?
Starting point is 00:21:58 Yeah. He just had some drunk courage. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I had to drive, which I didn't mind. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Well, you have a car and you can drive, I'm assuming. I've got a car I can drive. Okay. Yep. I put gas in the car and he gave me an address to where we were going.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Yeah. It was all, like, mysterious. Okay. We ended up at Sky City. Right. Great spot. Oh, there's some good sugar club You've got Andy's Burgers
Starting point is 00:22:27 You've got Humami downstairs Fed Street over there Yeah Lots of great eating options I thought the lovely restaurant In Sky City And I was like Wow
Starting point is 00:22:37 This is amazing Yeah Beautiful Sugar club up there Yeah nah Nah where'd you go To the casino Oh no What so he just go? To the casino.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Oh, no. What, so he just took you to the pokies? Yeah. What, did he get dinner? Did he get you at least a chicken parm and some chips? Oh, no, this is where it gets good. Oh, okay. He went off and had his little flutter.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I had a flutter too. Okay. He got hungry. I couldn't find him. Then he came, he'd won the jackpot on one of the machines. How much did he win? How much? The date's about to turn, guys. It was between $700 and $800.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Oh, that's nice. That's a good amount. Lauren's about to get a three-course meal. This is the best date ever. You've now got cash. Alright, so you found him. He's loaded. What next? I brought him two drinks and went to the food place around the corner and got myself a dinner. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:31 And then what did he do? He was still playing. Oh, so it didn't cash out. You exit the casino. Oh, no. There's a little, like, restaurant-y bit in the casino. But you leave the pokey area. You have a little something to eat.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Do you go and find him again? After I had my dinner, yes, I went and found him. Okay. Yeah. And he was ready to leave. Oh, yeah, okay. So we left. I had to pay for parking.
Starting point is 00:24:00 But he won the jackpot, Lauren. Yes, I know. Okay, and then... This is where I should have heard the alarm bells and just left in there and drove home. Okay, yeah. To be fair, Lauren, the alarm's been ringing the whole time. It hasn't, has it?
Starting point is 00:24:15 The alarm hasn't stopped. Right, and so you drive home, and then what happens when you get home? Oh, we didn't get home first. He wanted some McDonald's. He wanted a cheeseburger. And you've been telling him you're hungry all bloody night.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Yeah, he's been ignoring that. So I hope it wasn't a shower at this stage. This date is brilliant. So you get some McDonald's. We go through the drive-thru. He's like, are you hungry? I was like, no, because I got myself a dinner at the casino.
Starting point is 00:24:45 He just wanted a cheeseburger. And we get to the little window and pay for it. And I was looking at him and he's just like on his phone. So you're now paying for the bloody $2.50 cheeseburger? I paid $2.50 for a cheeseburger. Where was the jackpot? Had he wasted it all? No, it's in his wallet.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Well, make him pay for the cheeseburger. Make him pay for the cheeseburger. Don't dig into your pocket anymore. I paid for the cheeseburger. I drove home, and that was the end of that. Okay, and that's it. You said goodnight, and he went into his house. You went into yours.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah. We need to talk about the fact that you guys live very... Yeah, it was very awkward. Right. And there was never another talk of another date. Goodness me, Lauren. Okay, so you didn't get the nice Sky City restaurant meal, but yeah, wow. Okay, what an experience.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Lauren, how much are you putting in for a request here? Well, if I include the $20 I put into a machine, it's $105 all up. Oh, you should include that because you didn't want to be there to see mine, did you? You didn't want to gamble. No, wait. Do you want to put that into the machine there? Yeah, the date refund of $4,000. I'll put that in. Your date refund request has been accepted.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Oh, yeah, there we go. $105, Lauren. And next time, maybe just run a bit of a background check and maybe a pre-date don't let this put you off though get back out there babe it's good to know in a time of a worldwide pandemic malnutrition
Starting point is 00:26:16 climate change all of these things for scientists to focus on or antibiotics becoming resistant that's a thing the bacteria becoming resistant to the antibiotics. Yeah, that's a problem. Super bugs, viruses, travel to other planets.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Cargo pants back in. Scientists still have time to look into farts. Which is great news. Great. Now this is a study that a doctor happened across and has looked into again, originally done in 1998. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:48 And there was a study done trying to clarify what was contained in farts and if there was a difference in farts between the genders. Because men, you would say, have the reputation of being the gassier and smellier of the genders. Especially if I'm on the protes or doing a bit of broccoli in my diet. Yeah. Very flat to it. I don't mean to be so rude. Oh, no. Open up.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Open right up. Yeah. Gassy. Open right up and it won't make the slappy noise when it comes out. Yes. But the data collected showed a higher concentration in sulfur and hydrogen sulfide in women's farts. And now that is the part of the fart that makes the smell. Now, men have a sulfur concentration of 0.59 in each fart, whereas women have 1.77.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Whoa, it's like double. That's double, right? Almost triple. Just shy of triple. Well, I mean, this is, I'm interested that you guys are shocked. I didn't need to study to know this. Really? I mean, you're married to a beautiful woman who does not fart.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I've never known her to fart or poo. I know it happens. I've just never been there. And there is no woman in your household. No. I'm the woman of my household with a big man. Big man. And honestly, I'm a shocker.
Starting point is 00:28:10 I know. How many weeks are you working with us and you did kind of a forewarning? That I'm a farter? I'm yet to fart in studio. I think there's been one. I have not farted in studio. I've noticed one. I was like, I don't think that's worn.
Starting point is 00:28:23 And it's pretty pungent. Well, I'm allergic. I've got one of those guts think that's worn, and it's pretty pungent. Well, I'm allergic. I've got one of those guts, you know, that's just like allergic to everything, and every day it decides something new that it's allergic to. Right. But I eat anything and everything, and then, yeah, just go to bed with like a pregnant belly and fart it out. Fart it out overnight.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Work it through. Also, men's farts were bigger than women's. Yep. But they had the three times the hydrogen sulfide. Well, in the start, they were in this study on farts, or a start as it was known. They measured them. They made people eat pinto beans and lactulose. So that's what encourages lactose intolerance.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Yeah, right. Can make you quite gassy. Like after a lot of ice cream, you might be particularly tooty. And to enhance it, and then they studied them from there. So men have bigger, women have smellier. And men fart more often, but it still doesn't catch up to the three times as much. Stankiness. You are disgusting. I'm yuck.
Starting point is 00:29:29 You are disgusting. I've got a smelly anus. You've got to have one though, don't you? That's just the rule. Are you now regretting live radio that? Yeah, okay. It's not like TV where we can just edit that out. No. Thank God I'm not looking for a husband.
Starting point is 00:29:48 Well, we've been watching the relationship... Flourish. From day one, haven't we? Blossom. Utterly blossom. It's moving fast. It's moving fast. It was like, I love you after a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:30:00 It was like moving together after a couple of months. I would say couple tattoos are imminent. Let's check if there hasn't already been a couple tattoo. Can't you see this tat on my forehead? I'm going to call it, I reckon, next summer. A bit of a wobbly knee, I reckon.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Really? Popping the question. Open the little bulks. But now they've got their first dependent. Yeah. Oh, God, no, she's pregnant. It is moving fast. You have to marry her.
Starting point is 00:30:33 What? Yes, it's 19... Make an honest woman out of her. It's 1960 and you're a Catholic. You must marry her before she shows signs of pregnancy. You have to whisk her away. And then when she gives birth in a few months, you say, what a short pregnancy.
Starting point is 00:30:44 God willing, the baby's a healthy one. What have you guys done? What have you purchased? What have you got to keep alive? A Dracanus. It's a little plant. A Dracanus. Kind of corny, stalky, balmy.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Back in my day, Dracanus was a totally different thing you did. I'm not really into the Dracanus. It normally goes houseplant. It normally goes houseplant. It normally goes houseplant, animal, engagement, marriage, baby. Yeah, that's your traditional. That's your traditional, yeah. But you've gone straight in with the Dracanus? Yeah, but there's no time frame for that, right?
Starting point is 00:31:23 I'm not like houseplant committed to To proposing You are You've moved in So that would mean You need houseplants And decor and stuff Yeah Have you gone halves On furniture Any new furniture
Starting point is 00:31:31 Yeah we got a fridge Oh my god I would say the fridge Is bigger than The Dracanus Yeah this is a big step The fridge will keep Itself going
Starting point is 00:31:39 If there's a separation You've got to decide Who's getting the fridge But the Dracanus Is a joint venture Everybody's got to be On board for the Dracanus is a joint venture. Everybody's got to be on board for the Dracanus. You can't have one person doing all the hard work for the Dracanus.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Does it have a colloquial name so we can stop saying Dracanus? So Dracania is the branch. What do they look like? It looks kind of like a cabbage tree. Yes, yes, yes. Those things. Like a yucca? Looks kind of like a cabbage tree. Yes. Oh, those things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a yucca? It looks like a yucca.
Starting point is 00:32:09 It does look like a yucca. No, not a yucca. No, it's cool. It's got like dark green leaves and then like bright green stripes and a little white stripe. It looks fast. Yeah. How much light have you got? I don't know if you're aware of this, but I'm living in an outer jungle.
Starting point is 00:32:21 We have light. It does come in the window. Okay. But I do move Drackey. You're going to move Drackey? Yes, that's a cool name. Oh, yeah. Is this it?
Starting point is 00:32:31 Is this it here? So wait, Drac... Yep. Dracanus in the bedroom? Dracanus in the bedroom, but during the day, we do Dracanus in the kitchen. Now, it says that the key
Starting point is 00:32:40 to keeping Dracanus happy is to keep the Dracanus moist, but not soggy. Yeah. Okay. Don't overwater. If there's droopage, it's a sign that you're overwatering the Dracania. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Okay. I would also like to recommend not putting on the back of a ute and driving between suburbs because that's how we killed our Dracanus. Oh, really? Okay, so no Dracanus for you and your fiancee anymore? Yeah, me and Aaron are not so much into the Dracanus anymore. Wow. You're in far between now.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Yeah. I think we've got one or two. After 10 years. Well, after that time in the back of the ute. After 10 years. You know, it was never the same again. All right, well, things are moving very swiftly. Latest update there with Jared and the Middy.
Starting point is 00:33:21 We do need a bit of a jingle. I think we do need a regular show update for Jared and the Middy. Jared and the Middy, We do need a bit of a jingle. I think we do need a regular show update for Jared and the Middy. Jared and the Middy, living in the city. Yes. Getting nitty gritty with lots of itty bitties. Yeah, that's it. That's it. That's all we need.
Starting point is 00:33:34 That's all we need for the intro. Brilliant. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. A relationship coach in our neighbour's Australia has asked single people what matters to them on a first date and whether or not the outfit they wear has any impact on their impression on this person. Oh God, are you going to tell me that the reason I'm single is because shorts and a t-shirt isn't good on a first date? Do you wear shorts and a t-shirt to a first date? Casual, baby, casual.
Starting point is 00:34:04 I would never go anywhere on a first date that wasn't, like, wildly casual. Yeah, no, because I don't like wearing shirts. Full stop. If I had to wear a shirt. You don't like a collar? I hate a collar. Fat neck. Fat neck.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Fat neck. I suffer from fat neck. Oh, no, I'm so sorry. TNS, thick neck syndrome. Well, a lot of the single people that she spoke to, she asked them, have you ever been turned off immediately on a first date by the way someone dressed? And did it affect the way that you thought of them, the way you approached them, how the date went? A lot of people, it divided people.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Some were like, it doesn't matter. I'm such a good person. I'm open-minded. A lot of people uh were saying immediately they knew it wasn't going to work based on the clothes that they were wearing well we've all got items of clothing that we despise right maybe because they don't look good on us we force it on the fact that it's not good and we want to go on or maybe just conforming to social norms about what's acceptable yeah well it's but it's not just about going i don't like
Starting point is 00:35:05 the look of that t-shirt uh it's also about going out what is that how does that help you form your understanding of who that person is immediately so if i didn't know you and i walk in and i go okay like a cap and a t-shirt to our first like i don't put in any effort so am i gonna put in any effort in the relationship? No, probably not. I was going to say, fletch, fear, indicate, no. Probably not, no. This is terrifying to me. I've been out of the world of dating for 10 years.
Starting point is 00:35:32 These singles were also saying, you know, they look at things like how they speak, stand, drink, eat, interact, and have manners, as well as the way they dress on this first date. That's too much. That's a lot to take on board. So now you're going to behavioural schools and then you're standing in front of your wardrobe absolutely panicking about what...
Starting point is 00:35:52 Well, the wardrobe is the one easy thing to change. Your personality is kind of what you're stuck with. You might be able to lie through the first couple of dates, but then it's going to fall back to the fact that you're a crazy narcissist who only cares about her own self. So I want to ask our listeners if they've ever been
Starting point is 00:36:06 on a date and if that person was wearing something that instantly turned them off. Or anything, an item of clothing that people wear
Starting point is 00:36:15 that you're like, no way, Crocs. What is your absolute immediate no-go turns up to the date, that's a pair of Crocs. That's a no from me. I'll have one drink
Starting point is 00:36:23 out of politeness and I'm out of here. And then you're leaving. Yeah. Do you think you'd judge someone on their clothing? It depends on the clothing. If it was just not my fashion, I would hope that I would be like. Like if it was dad fash or something.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Yeah, a bit of dad fash. You'd want, okay. But then if it's a Make America Great Again teamed up with a Trump 2024 t-shirt. I don't think our conversation's going to align. Yeah, probably not. Even if they're wearing it ironically, no. All right, so 0800DARLS.M, give us a call right now. You can text as well, 9696.
Starting point is 00:36:55 What is the item of clothing that would instantly turn you off on a date? All right, so what do you hate on a first date, clothing-wise? Yeah, a relationship counsellor has told us what people look for on a first date. And clothing, it says a lot about you. Some messages, yeah. It can turn you on, it can turn you right on off. Some messages in. I told a guy where we were going for our first date.
Starting point is 00:37:19 It was somewhat formal, but like casual formal. And he turned up in track pants and a hoodie. Not a great look. Hoodie? I feel like these days hoodie is more acceptable, but you have to pair it with a nice pair of genos or something. Yes, yes. Genos, genos.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Men's jeans with ribbed knees. Oh, no. We're not doing those anymore, are we? No, no, no. Brain is stretching the knee, though, if it's got a pleat in it. Unless you're from South America or Europe, then we'll make an exception with the jeans. Yeah, but you better be filling them jeans out in all the right spots, boy.
Starting point is 00:37:52 All right. Okay. Camo print anything on a guy in a non-rural setting. So they're okay with this in a rural setting, but in an urban setting it's a no-no. Camo I can handle, but what's the bush one? The hunting stuff? The polar fleece, ridgeline, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Polar fleece, especially if it's like fluro orange. Yeah. Ella, what's your first date clothing turn off? Turn off? I would say ankle socks, like the socks that you can't see below. Oh, Ella! It looks like he's sopless. Invisi socks.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Oh my God, they're both wearing them. I always wear sockies. I wore an ankle sock, which you could see, and I was mocked relentlessly. Really? Do you like a good, big... Like a decent sock. Are you talking like a shin sock?
Starting point is 00:38:42 You want it up to the shin sock? Not that high. Oh, you're a hard woman to please. Like a nice Adidas or a champion. Are you talking like a shin sock? You want it up to the shin sock? Not that high. Like a nice Adidas or a Champion. Okay, what about a turn on Ella? If that's a turn off. A backwards hair I would say. Wait, so you would rather...
Starting point is 00:38:56 She wants a skater boy to see see ya later boy. Vaughn, can you flip your cap backwards? I just want to have a look if it's doing it for me. No, I've not done it right. I've pulled my eyebrows up too much. No, that's not... You've given yourself a bit of a free facelift.
Starting point is 00:39:10 You look shocked. Well, hey, yeah. My face relieves me of the wrinkles. Hey, yeah, hello. Thanks for your call. I keep your calls, your texts coming in. 0800 DALES at M.
Starting point is 00:39:20 You can text 9696. What is a clothing turn-off on a first date? We're asking how much do you care about a date's outfit? Are there any items, if you went on a first date, that they were wearing would instantly turn you off? Alana, what would turn you off on a first
Starting point is 00:39:36 date? So, shoes. So, for example, if there were those I don't know how you'd describe them, they're almost like an off-road smart brown lace-up shoes yes so like a puppy yes i know we're talking about tread but like brown on the top yeah like you could seamlessly go out for dinner and then do a trail home yeah like a boat like a boat shoes for on a boat these These are for a semi-formal walk along a dusty trail.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like quality, no doubt. But outdoorsy. Yeah, but keep those. Real mixed message. Yeah, it is a real mixed message. Like I'm trying to be formal, but I'm also ready for a muddy slope. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:20 That would instantly turn you off if someone walked into a bar wearing those. Yeah, yeah. Practical though. Yeah a bar wearing those. Yeah, practical though. Yeah, it is practical. Yeah, but you're right. In what situation? I think I found, so high-tech is the, I just Googled it and it said high-tech men's adventure shoes. Yeah, it's basically.
Starting point is 00:40:41 And they're not cheap either. No, they're not. It wastes so much money to look that terrible. Yeah, and it's a real dad shoe, that one. And the neoprene used on it could have been used in a wetsuit. Brilliant. Alana, thanks for your call. Ashley, what is the item of clothing that would turn you off on a first date?
Starting point is 00:41:00 So a short-sleeved button-up polo that's buttoned all the way up. Yes. I like it. What's his name? Maybe a bit too trippy for me. Like a Fred Perry or Ralph Lauren. I'm thinking like Ralph Lauren vibe is where it's quite colourful. Do you remember, Ashley, when it was popular to wear two polos?
Starting point is 00:41:22 And you popped the colours. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a real Jersey Shore. And you popped the collars. Yeah. That was a real Jersey Shore douchebag move there. What about Ashley? This guy turns up for the date, but he's really hot. And he's wearing
Starting point is 00:41:37 a polo, a Ralph Lauren, and he's really hot. You can see his muscles bulging through that polo. Yeah. No, I would stay, for sure. I'll see what the personality was like a bit more. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:52 You know, you can always work on the fashion a bit later. But, you know, I'll be sitting there with my nose ring and Docs on. It depends on just what I'm doing. Yeah, I don't imagine. I've got an image of you now. So you're more of the punky, streetwise kid, and he's the preppy polo shirt guy. The old jockey. Yeah, a bit too preppy, but if he's a nice guy and he's gorgeous, why not?
Starting point is 00:42:12 At the end of this rom-com that you're starring in, who changes to the other one? Are you going to go preppy or is he going to go punky? He'll go punky for sure. It's hard to pull off the punky once you've been preppy. Yeah, I work in a corporate environment, so I can kind of, I do that, you know, then. Okay. So, yeah, I think for him it would be a little bit harder. For sure.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Me, it's easier, but. Yeah. Polo shirts, not for me. They play havoc with my nipples. Yeah, they're not a firm net. They're a rough cotton. Yeah, that's not information Ashley or any of us needed. Ashley, thanks for your call.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Tegan, what is the item of clothing that's an instant turn off on a date? A graphic T-shirt. A big graphic T-shirt. Yes. So how do you mean by graphic? Like what are we talking here? Anything with like a silly saying on it or like a picture. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Anything from JJ's basically. JJ's. Tegan's shot. was like a silly saying on it or like a picture i don't know anything from jj's basically a shot a warning shot straight over the bow do you mean like those um fbi female body inspectors no one apart from dads is wearing those remember that one that was i pooed when i was right yeah okay okay you're making all very very good points are they allowed to wearing those, aren't they? Remember that one that was eye-pooed? Yeah, okay. You're making all very, very good points. The only one that's really acceptable are ones from surf shops. I've got a Raglan Surf Co. one. Yeah, because you're wearing
Starting point is 00:43:35 a North Facer today and that's kind of graphic. No, but it's not trying to be funny. It's not like North Face eye-pooed or what if it was like Scooby Doo?doo what if scooby-doo was on the t-shirt nah see you later what if it was like keep calm and carry on oh go put that on like your wall in your house oh don't even don't even do that you don't want to be dating someone then go to the house and find a live love laugh bliss sign on their wall like has anyone ever
Starting point is 00:44:04 picked up a magazine, like a home and garden magazine in the dentist or the doctors, and there's just been like a multi-page spread on your live, carry on. Laughter is the best medicine. Shut up, mum! Hey, Tegan, thanks. You called some messages to finish off, some texts.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Lots of socks and sandals coming in. Lots of socks and sandals. Someone. Lots of socks and sandals. Someone said, any of the Boulevard Kings line that Hallenstein does? Now, I find, as a man that exclusively wears the Hallenstein suits
Starting point is 00:44:33 for $200 and you get a free shirt, I find that wildly offensive. Okay. DC skate shoes, lots of skate shoes. Oh, yeah. I remember being in a store
Starting point is 00:44:42 in Australia and this girlfriend, boyfriend and girlfriend, and he was, like, trying to buy some kind of, like, Etnies or something. Etnies. Oh, no, she was trying to convince him to buy some good, some nice shoes, just some nice whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And she was like, you're too old to be wearing skate shoes. And he was real bummed. Oh, that's so kind. They aren't very comfortable. Someone said Royals. Do you remember those? The Royals? The shoes that were elasticated?
Starting point is 00:45:03 Elastics. You could squeeze your foot into that one. Some other text messages in. Someone said lanyards with an excessive amount of keys on them. Someone doesn't want to date the janitor. To a first date? My lanyard broke. I'm just a keys guy now.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Oh, right. Yeah, but I get annoyed when people have lanyards with excessive stuff on them that they don't need. You have just the keys you need. And very bad for your neck. Yeah. Someone said, I was on a date. It all seemed to be going kind of okay, but there was something weird. And then when he went to pay, he opened his Velcro wallet.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Get out. Somebody said, I went on a date and a guy wore a backwards hat while we were sitting at a restaurant table. Oh, okay. They said backwards hats are fine, but maybe not at a restaurant table. So these are a bit of like a manners situation. Someone said board shorts are gross. Just a straight shot of board shorts there. Unless you're going surfing, board shorts haven't been cool for like 10 years.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Yeah, especially the ones that hang just above the knee. Yeah. Or just below the knee. It's even worse. Yeah. Get up. Show above the knee. Yeah. Or just below the knee. Or just below the knee. It's even worse. Yeah. Get up. Show me that thigh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Show me those hammies. But also, you know, if you're going on a first date, be yourself. Be your authentic self. Don't let anyone tell you what you shouldn't do. So disregard everything everyone's saying. So that whole section, throw it in the trash. Be you. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan.
Starting point is 00:46:20 The podcast. ZM. Hey, you on the phone. I bet I can guess Your Mum's Name, Vaughan. Pretty good year for you so far. You've had wins and losses. We haven't done it that many times this year, but last year was a hot end to the year.
Starting point is 00:46:41 Well, joining us this morning to play, Claudia. Good morning, Claudia. Good, and yourself? Really good. Really top notch. Really good. All right joining us this morning to play, Claudia. Good morning, Claudia. Good, and yourself? Really good. Really top notch. Really good. All right, so $100 on the line now. If Vaughn can guess your mum's name, he's got five questions to ask about your mum,
Starting point is 00:46:53 and then he will have 15 seconds to try and guess her name. Vaughn, your questions. Okay, what's mum's favourite season of, you know, like summer, autumn, winter autumn winter or spring probably summer for golf oh a bonus clue that's a bonus clue a big clue there summer golf okay i'm just gonna write down a couple of uh a couple of names of people my mom used to play golf with okay see we laugh at this process but this is a process that has won Vaughn, I bet I can guess your mum's name, many times. Yeah, not today.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Oh! Another bonus clue! That is a real bonus clue and a look of worry in Vaughn Smith's face. It's not a bonus clue. Well, it is, but rather than discounting a whole lot of names. You're going to have to go left field is what I'm getting from that. Yeah, same. All right. But she loves that. Yeah, same. All right.
Starting point is 00:47:46 But she loves golf. Yeah. Okay. Vaude's just like, you've absolutely thrown him. The usual Barmbra is not going to cut it. Yeah, Barmbra's off the list, isn't it? Yeah. All right. Next question.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Does your mum, like, panic about the smoke alarms? Does she always change the smoke alarm batteries at Daylight Savings? No. Oh, okay. She's fast and loose with these smokers. Yeah, you're reckless. Not a lot of fire safety there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:15 All right. Penelope. Penelope. Number three on the list of my questions. Is there anything she refers to as just hers? You know, like sometimes mum will be like, my something. Oh, my mum's got her special orange juice. Yeah, like my orange juice.
Starting point is 00:48:32 What's special about her orange juice? Nothing. It's just like Charlie's pulpy juice. Yeah, okay. But your dad's not allowed any. No. You're not allowed any. Well, I get yelled at if I have it when I go home.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Right, right. Probably her wardrobe. Oh, okay. Oh, you don't want Dad nipping in and trying to fit a blouse and ruining it down the pub, do you? No, probably not. Or messing things up in the wardrobe.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Yeah, okay. Right. Does she have a favourite flower? No, she gets hay fever. Oh, she's a sniffy. She's a sniffly goose. She's a sniffly old... She's a sniffly old. She's a sniffly old Yvonne.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Isn't she your mum? She's a runny nose Rhonda. She's. Oh, here we go. Flixitide. Is that what that thing was called? Flixinase? Flixinase is that mayonnaise made of the antihistamine.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Okay, all right. She's a moaning Maureen. All right. And what are your mum's siblings' names? Tracy, Michelle and Suzanne. Wait, but you're saying that I'm not going to get your mum's name, yet you've just named... It's an absolute textbook mum's name.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Yeah, she's trying to throw you off the scent. Do you reckon? No, but it's not in her interest to throw you off the scent. Because she won't win the money. Because you won't win the money. That's right. You're supposed to be on my team here. You're supposed to be working together. You're supposed to be opening up mentally to let me in.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Oh, I see. I'm happy you've got a hard name today, though, Vaughn. So you've had it too good too long. Right. Lois should go well with those though, Vaughn. So you've had it too good too long. Right. Lois should go well with those ones, eh? Okay. Oh, yeah. Victoria.
Starting point is 00:50:13 All right. Are those your five questions, Vaughn Smith? Okay, yep. All right, you now have 15 seconds to guess Claudia Mum's name. Claudia, if you hear your mum's name, say stop. Wait a minute, she's reversing. Just wait until she's finished reversing. That's name. Claudia, if you hear your mum's name, say stop. Wait a minute, she's reversing. Just wait until she's finished reversing. That's right.
Starting point is 00:50:28 No, God, no, I couldn't handle starting rattling off names and then I hear It has happened before on the show, hasn't it? Then you wish your mum had a standard name and I guess it because you've got an insurance excess to pay. Alright, Claudia, 15 seconds if you hear your mum's name, say stop. That's my mum's name. Vaughan, your time starts now.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Gay. Vicky. Marg or margaret glenda theresa rosemary penelope victoria lois pamela maureen ronda yvonne carolyn philippa laura none of them Oh, Claudia The streak is over What is your mum's name? Lorinda Lorinda Lorinda? That's not a name
Starting point is 00:51:13 That's a cleaning product I don't think I've ever I've heard Laurie or Lorraine But Lorinda, I've never heard that name Yeah, L-O-R-I-N-D-A As it sounds They couldn't decide between Melinda and Lorraine but Lorinda, I've never heard that name. Yeah, L-O-R-I-N-D-A. As it sounds. They couldn't decide between Melinda and Lorraine.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And her siblings had completely usual... English, Anglo-Saxon names. But what is the name, where is that from, Lorinda? I think my grandmother found it in the newspaper, I believe. It might have been the death notices. Oh. Morbid. I've never grandmother found it in the newspaper, I believe. It might have been the death notices. Oh. Morbid. I've never heard of it. You would never have won.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I've never heard of it. And now we don't get to guess your dad's name, but it'll be something boring. It was John. Lorinda and John. Lorinda is a girl's name. It has Latin and English origins. Laurel or sweet baby tree. Similar to victory. I've heard of Laurel. Yeah. There you go. L'Oreal or Sweet Baby Tree. Similar to Victory.
Starting point is 00:52:05 I've heard of L'Oreal. Yeah. There you go. Well, Rinder, it was the first time. Unfortunately, Claudia. The streak is over. Yeah. It's not a win for you or Vaughn today,
Starting point is 00:52:14 but it is good to see Vaughn lose once in a while because it puts him in his place. Reminds him to calm down. Exactly. All right. Thanks for playing, Claudia. Thank you. ZM's Fletch, Va for playing, Claudia. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Two books are currently doing the rounds on TikTok at the moment, and they're really resonating with young women in particular. They're called Why Men Love Bitches and Why Men Marry Bitches. And the author of those books, Sherry Argov, joins us on the phone now. Kia ora, Sherry. Hi, thank you for having me. Thank you for joining us. Now, I've got to say, those titles,
Starting point is 00:52:50 Why Men Love Bitches and Why Men Marry Bitches, it's got a bit of shock factor. Give us a bit of a rundown about what your books are about. And I'm thankful that you didn't introduce me as, and we now have the bitch that wrote them. Yeah. The bitch herself is here now. What a dear. So tell us what they're about.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Okay, look, there's not enough room on the cover of a book to say why men like women who are confident, who contribute to the relationship, who have a job, who have an opinion, and who aren't just working on being physically beautiful and nothing else.
Starting point is 00:53:27 So that's pretty much the message of my books. And what's interesting is they've been out for well over a decade, and men haven't really attacked me for my message when they read it. Oftentimes, if they see the title, then they have a lot to say. But once they read the book, they have to agree with me most of the time, because I've interviewed men and really wrote the books based on what they told me. And I have a degree in journalism. I'm a journalist. And I really use my journalism skills to interrogate these men. It was fun, I have to say. It's a tough job, but somebody had to do it.
Starting point is 00:54:09 So the titular bitches on the title, who classes them as bitches with how you've just described them? Well, I use the word playfully, and I think that's how it's used now in slang, sort of playfully. I'm not talking about being mean or being nasty. And everybody who knows me thinks I'm a nice person. But to be able to also have a backbone and not to be, you know, walked on, not to be at a man's beck and call not to be
Starting point is 00:54:38 his trained pet, if you will. Yeah. I think it earns his respect and and and there's truth in that and so my book was meant to be entertaining but also to have some some truths in there because obviously it wouldn't be resonating if it didn't have some substance yeah so so so when these books initially came out you i've read that you have been quoted as saying uh more of an older audience would read them and now that it's uh it's tiktok a lot of younger people, it's really resonating with them. Yeah, like Gen Z is because the first, the original book, and correct me if I'm wrong, Why Men Love Bitches, that was 2002 that it was first out. And now it's having an absolute renaissance at the moment. Honestly, it doesn't surprise me.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Because in my opinion, the young girls today are even more insecure and more desperate than they were. They're competing now with online pornography. They're competing with, you know, mean girls and people, you know, being expected to be, you know, little porn stars at 15. And it's honestly very sad if you really stop and think about it. So it's okay with me if they really stop and think about it so it's okay with me if they pull together their babysitting money to go buy my book for 15 to learn a lesson about self-worth and dignity i'm absolutely okay with that yeah in fact they can come over here and i'll pay them and allow us to do some cleaning around my house. Sherry, it's interesting that you said that because I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:56:06 do you think that young Gen Zers now are really connecting with your book because we are encouraging them more to be independent people, to have their own lives, to have their own jobs, that they're not just here to have children. So it's interesting that that's one version of that,
Starting point is 00:56:22 but actually, yeah, I didn't think about the added pressures on young people now with social media and the likes. I would say that it's not just the Gen Z generation. I still maintain, and I know because I hear from the women, that it's women in their 20s and 30s that are equally impacted by the messages that they're getting, the cultural influences, the rampant, you know, I mean, it used to be if you were a stripper, it was not something to be talking about publicly. Now they're wearing it as a badge of honor, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:02 it's just a little different. And so, you know, my book, although it's cloaked in, you know, cool, hip, fun, whatever, has a really timeless message. And it is about dignity and it is about self-confidence. It is about not defining yourself by the things that most women are willing to define themselves by and by setting yourself apart that way. And you know, what was really refreshing to me when I was interviewing men is how much they really do want a woman that has kind of a moral compass and who isn't going to act like that. They don't want that woman. They don't respect her. And so I think, yeah, I think that I think the young girls, especially, you know, I think TikTok just has a younger audience, right?
Starting point is 00:57:49 Yes, of course. But the 20-something, I mean, I had a woman crying on my shoulder over the weekend. She's in her early 30s. She's brilliant. She's an attorney. And even for her, it was really hard, the messaging. She's like, how are we supposed to put up with this? You have to sleep with me on the third date. I can't believe you haven't slept with me, and it's the third date. And I'm like, very simple. The third date is an outdoor hike.
Starting point is 00:58:16 The fourth date is lunch. I don't know. In New Zealand we love our nature, I tell you what. Yeah, when we go on an outdoor hike in New Zealand, there's no predators here, so we're actually one of the safest places to make love. Here we are. Okay, then.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Hey, Sherry. Wherever you go where there's no possibility, where you have to be around people. Absolutely. Abseiling, rock climbing. Scuba diving. Yeah, skydiving. Hey, so Sherry, you've got why men love bitches
Starting point is 00:58:43 and why men marry bitches. Any plans in the works for a third? Yeah, skydiving. Hey, so Sherry, you've got Why Men Love Bitches and Why Men Marry Bitches. Any plans in the works for a third? Yeah, I do. I'm working on two books currently. One in the same sort of series and the other one is completely new. And I would like to give you the title once my trademark is confirmed. Because people like to copy me. We will definitely be looking out for that. Thank you so much for chatting
Starting point is 00:59:07 to us this morning. It was a pleasure. I look forward to reading it myself. You can buy Why Men Love Bitches and Why Men Marry Bitches anywhere you buy your books. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day has been the origins of the cochlear implant, which is a fascinating, I don't know enough about it to really give you the full ins and outs of how it works. But if your eardrum's damaged or if you can't hear, it bypasses the traditional sort of receptors
Starting point is 00:59:50 and goes straight into the audio nerve, the hearing nerve, and it simulates that nerve through like electrical pulses. Is it the similar way that people listen to those Bose sunglasses that have the built-in? They're amazing, eh? I believe so. There might be vibrations into the eardrum. Might be vibrations straight into the audio nerve.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Because when you use those glasses, it sounds like the sound is coming from inside your head, like it doesn't feel directional. I don't... That's what I'm just looking at now. Bose headphones, sunglasses. How do the Bose sunglasses... The glasses sound amazingly good for what they are.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Two small... No, these are two small speakers that sit in the frame. Yeah, because... Just in front of your ears. Oh, so it's not the same as a cochlear implant. Not the same. Oh, well, that's not exciting. Stimulate it, perhaps.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Yeah, because it's weird because you'd think it would sound a lot quieter than it does. Tinier. Boys have been working on a Bluetooth connection for cochlear implants so you could listen to music straight into the cochlear implant. Oh, wow. That'd be good. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:57 We're living in the future, guys. The origins of the cochlear implant. Well, they're saying this was one of the original experiments that led to the whole, instead of amplifying the sound into a damaged eardrum, what if one was to bypass and go straight to the nerve? In 1929, some scientists made a cat into a telephone. Is that the fact? Sorry?
Starting point is 01:01:16 Your fact of the day is scientists have once turned a cat into a telephone. Do you know I was real jealous? My friend growing up had a Garfield telephone. Oh, I remember them. Do you know I was real jealous My friend growing up had a Garfield telephone Oh I know Was it the Garfield or the Elf telephone That's eyes Yeah they had both The Garfield ones eyes popped up
Starting point is 01:01:33 And I think you can get the dog as well You used to get them from like Was it Cosmic Corner Before it was what it is now It used to be like a hippie kind of a store Ross Boss in Hamilton What was that shop in Downtown Plaza that always
Starting point is 01:01:49 Sold this sort of shit And when I was a kid it was my favourite shop To go into because it was just full of stuff your mum Was never going to buy you in a million years And there were always crystals And like Bob Marley hats Just wacky things There were like Tasmanian Devil's Silk boxer shorts
Starting point is 01:02:04 What's that? In Wellington it was Cosmic Corner. Before Cosmic Corner was like fashion, sunglasses and marriage. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like hippie beaded curtains, crystals and piercings. Giftware stores. I just found an ALF telephone online. Do you have a landline?
Starting point is 01:02:23 No, I've got one of those lines that looks like a line VoIP VoIP Yeah A vintage ALF telephone from the 1980s Working as 337 New Zealand dollars And this isn't the one I remember Because this is just ALF literally like holding the phone
Starting point is 01:02:38 Right, okay So how did scientists turn a cat into a telephone? Ernest and Charles thought Let's turn a cat into a telephone in the name of science. It's a grim story. They removed part of the cat's skull along with most of its brain and attached electrodes to the animal's right auditory nerve, which is inside of the ear, and another to the cat's body. They got hooked up to an amp and the signals were sent to a telephone receiver.
Starting point is 01:03:06 When they talked into the ear of the cat, the sound would be heard in the receiver. Because the ear Wow. Yeah, so they would talk into it the audio nerve would then relay the signal and then the other thing hooked up to the cat's body would go into the amp and amplify it. Was the cat alive
Starting point is 01:03:22 during this? Yes. 1929. It was 1929. It was nearly 100 years ago. It was like 92 years ago. We're grateful for its sacrifice to science. So soon after, it died and they said, we think we can do it better.
Starting point is 01:03:35 But they did it with a dead cat that must have been in their freezer, mortuary, and it didn't work. So they were like, okay, so we're having something that converts it to electric signals it goes into the body the cat would be able to hear this because it's audio nerve and that was like the birth of the cochlear the idea the premise the theory of the cochlear implant is that it can just be transferred into electrical signals and pumped straight to the nerve rather than going into like a damaged eardrum and just amplifying the sound. Wow.
Starting point is 01:04:06 So there you go. Thanks for your sacrifice, Kat. We appreciate it. Meow. Meow. Meow. Peep it. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:04:12 92 years later. So today's fact of the day is that once scientists turned a cat into a telephone, and that kind of gave birth to the cochlear implant. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.
Starting point is 01:04:39 This is a shout out to all my greasy head ladies out there. Do you feel me? Well, Vaughan and I can't relate having no hair. No, you can't relate. And, you know, you've got to count your blessings. Because you don't have to go through the horrendous cycle of greasy hair. I think that every time my wife's like, I can't get my hair wet in the shower. And I just stick my face in the boiling hot water and be like, I'm the least hair.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Well, because I've got very fine and quite thin hair, I don't have a lot of hair, so it's very close to my scalp. So I have to wash quite often. I wash it nearly every day, which is not a good thing. Right. Because otherwise it just gets a bit greasy. And hairdressers are letting us know how you can train your hair to be less greasy.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Now, people might have seen this, the no shampoo, like you just basically stop washing your hair and then it's apparently supposed to start cleansing itself. And I've watched varying degrees of YouTube videos on successful and... And do you think that's rubbish? Well, no. They're saying that the reason why it could help you to get less greasy hair is to wash it less, which feels counteractive. It does.
Starting point is 01:05:47 But when you wash your hair, you strip out all the natural oils from your head. Right. Which then your body then thinks, uh-oh, I need to replace that because there's no oil there and there should be oil. Yeah. So then it produces more sebum. Right. This is my lip balm theory, isn't it? It's lip balm theory for the hair.
Starting point is 01:06:09 You put on lip balm because your lips are a little bit dry, and then your lips are like, well, if that stuff's coming from somewhere else, I'll just start using it all. And then when you stop, you get super chapped lips, and it's an endless infinity cycle. Yeah, I'm a lip balm addict as well, and I get super hooked. So the way that they do it is...
Starting point is 01:06:25 You should see Fletch. He bloody purses up and pushes it in. I bloody love putting my lippy on. He is a real little lippy lover. Give it a little layer. There you go. Look with the eye while you're doing it. So they're saying the way to do it
Starting point is 01:06:37 is to ease into it, like most things. So the videos I've seen... You behave, both of you. The video I've seen, the woman went from being a daily washer to a, like, didn't wash it for three months, and her hair was feral at the end. Oh, really? Yeah, but the way they say to do it is to, it's like to reduce,
Starting point is 01:06:56 reduce, reduce, reduce. So have a look at how much you're cleansing your hair. So take me, for example, greasy hair sprout, old greasy sprout. Yeah. Slippery, slippery sprout. Slippery sprout, yeah. Old oil slick sprout. Slippery, slippery sprout. Slippery sprout, yeah. Old oil slick sprout.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Yep. So I've got a couple of pelicans washed up in there. Covered in oil. A couple of seagulls. Yeah, a green piece of this spraying down the seagulls. Picking out the turtle and being like, go home BP. Making me sweaty and therefore my hair. The ex on Spraldes.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Say I wash my hair five days a week. I may try to reduce that down to four and get that going for a little while. I might have a day here or there where I'm feeling a bit greasy and then I'll go down to three. Then I'd go down to two. And I might, with my fine and fair hair, get to a point where I wash it once a week and without it having to be in like a tight, slick bun because it's feral i don't want anyone right okay so if you want to try it be my guest that all went over my head and they're also saying when you wash your hair try not to wash it in very
Starting point is 01:07:57 hot water same thing it dries up the oil making your body think i need to produce more ah well that kind of is that the same with the face? Because I said before I like to stick my face straight around in a steam vent. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Worst comes to worst, dry shampoo. Load up on it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Fletchvorn and Megan, the podcast. ZM. Fletchvorn and Megan's Audio Ninja Warrior. Well, it's time to play Audio Ninja Warrior, and today it's the Battle of the Sams. We have two Sams, a Sam female, a Sam male. Sam on Sam. We welcome Sam first to Audio Ninja Warrior. Good morning.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Good morning. Sam Anther. Sam Anther. Is it short for Sam Anther? Yes, it is. Okay, Sam. Maybe we'll call you Anther. Sam Anther. All right, welcome to Audio, Sam. Maybe we'll call you Anther. Anther.
Starting point is 01:08:48 Alright, welcome to Audio Ninja Warrior. Sam, you're first up. So here's how Audio Ninja Warrior works. It's an audio obstacle course. You've got to make the sound effect that we give you and get through the obstacle course the fastest to win. Audio Ninja Warrior. It's as simple as that.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Five obstacles today. Are we ready? As ready as I'll ever be. All right. Your time starts now. Samantha, a zombie. I'm just going to pause. You're pausing.
Starting point is 01:09:21 I'm pausing. Okay. It was very lacklustre. It was honestly, I want to say, find it in there, Sam. I didn't mind that. It was more of like an exhausted ghost. Yeah. They are exhausted.
Starting point is 01:09:34 They're dead. They're hungry for brains. They're hungry for brains. Exactly. Okay. So we're going to restart the timer, Sam, and we will need you to give us a bit more energy for that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Okay. Your time starts again now. Ugh, brains. We will need you to give us a bit more energy for that. Okay. Your time starts again now. Ugh, brain. That's a marked improvement. A typewriter. Yep. Yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Also would have been acceptable for a gun. Bacon cooking. I was just going to pause the timer again. What was that? What was that? Have you heard bacon, seen bacon, had bacon before? Sam, are you a vegan? No.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Is that bacon? Is that bacon cooking? It's making noises. Could be. Were you trying to do a sizzle? Yeah. Sam, we're going to start the timer again. And we are going to need you to give us a bacon sizzling sound.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Restart the timer now. Pop, pop. Famously. Famously. Pop, pop. That means the bacon's a bit wet. A dragon. That's the best effort yet, I reckon.
Starting point is 01:10:44 She got behind that one and she pushed it. A toilet flushing. That's a quick loo. That's like an aeroplane. American loos, yeah. Sucks it out. Your time recorded there, Samantha. We're now going to go to Samuel.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Samuel, good morning. Kia ora, how you going?. Samuel, good morning. Kia ora. Kia ora. How are you going? Kia ora. Kia ora. Now, we've put Sam into the cone of silence. Samantha. That's Sam-antha, and you are Samuel. I'm going to tell you, though, Sam, she was pretty lacklustre at times. So I think you've got this.
Starting point is 01:11:20 If you can get through the audio obstacle course the quickest. With a bit of passion. All right, Sam, your time starts now. A zombie. Ugh. You should have stopped again there. I found like we really ragged on Samantha for her unenthusiastic zombie, and that wasn't much better.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I don't feel we can let Samuel through. I feel like zombies are wetter than we're getting. You know, there's more of... Oh, yeah. Okay. I am Legion Zombie. Got it, got it. Yeah, one of them more active zombies.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Okay, time starts again. Now, zombie. Yeah, good. Typewriter. Yes. Oh, that's really good. That was really good. Bacon cooking
Starting point is 01:12:05 Yes Yeah that's a sizzle Sizzle there A dragon I'm just gonna stop Wait are you being Causing Eaten by the dragon
Starting point is 01:12:21 Or was that the dragon Was that your dragon You know that was my dragon dragon? Was that your dragon? You know, that was my dragon. Yep. That sounded like a teenage dragon. Are we going to give him that
Starting point is 01:12:32 or would you like that again? I want it again. I'm going to restart the timer. Now, dragon. Yeah, that was good. Poor 80s wrestler.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Toilet flushing. Oh, yes, that was good. Or 80s wrestler. Toilet flushing. Oh, yes, that was good. Very good. Stop the timer. Well done, Samuel. Yeah, Samuel. Samantha. The Battle of the Sams, as we're calling it.
Starting point is 01:12:54 But there can be only one winner. I have Samantha back on the line from the Cone of Silence. Sam versus Sam this morning. Sam, I am. Sam, congratulations, you win. But Sam, sadly, you win. But Sam, sadly, you lose. Because they're both called Sam. Oh, that was good.
Starting point is 01:13:23 That felt good. Congratulations, Sam. Sam, you well. Congratulations, Sam. Sam Uell. Congratulations, Sam Uell. Just a little bit of a cover off the mark there. Sam Anthor. Maybe just the restarts there that cost you in the long run. Have a Barocca.
Starting point is 01:13:37 I need it. A Barocca? You think it's a vitamin C deficiency? I mean, it could be. She needs to go. A bit of a BB bounce. All right, this is not sponsored by Barocca. You think it's a vitamin C deficiency? I mean, it could be. She needs to go. Bada, bada, bada, b-b-bounce. All right, this is not sponsored by Barocca. No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Although I'd be open to corporate sponsorship for the Audio Ninja Warrior. I myself love a Barocca. Sam, you out. Congratulations. Hey, Sam, awesome. Appreciate it. Love it. ZDM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan.
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