ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 30th April 2021

Episode Date: April 29, 2021

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Hello, welcome to the Fletch Vaughan and Megan with Hayley Sproul podcast. It's thanks to McCafe by 5 McCafe Coffees. Get one free on the Maccas app as Vaughan scrolls through used cars. So I don't know why this occurred to me, but I have thought about importing cars from other parts of the world that are cheaper. Like this is just, people are like, yes Vaughan, it's been happening for a long, long time. It's called Japanese imports yeah

but I'm specifically looking for Land Rovers because you've got your old second hand Land Rovers your grandfather passed down his

Land Rover yeah yeah yeah and I just like them you like them maybe want another one because you wouldn't know this Hayley but driving anywhere

with Vaughan if we go around the country or whatever you drive past a car yard and he sees one he's like oh my god, it's a Land Rover. And you've noticed that for a long time. I've noticed the geekiness of your obsession of it.

So where have you found them cheap overseas? Because you've got to – So I looked at Dubai. Yeah. Well, because you know how there's always those stories about, like, that person had to leave Dubai and they left their car just on the side of the road, abandoned Lamborghinis. Yeah, because they're so rich.

Maybe that would be, for me, and Dubai has a wonderful selection of secondhand Land Rovers, but they were all owned by excessively filthy rich people, so they want a lot of money for them. Okay. They want a lot, a lot of money for them. There's some old beauties. So Dubai wasn't the place to go to look for a bargain.

Okay. And then I thought about our old friends in South Africa. Oh, Jared. Producer Jared's homeland. All right, let's go. South Africa. Because I know Land Rovers were massive in South Africa. Would you buy a car from South Africa?

I'd buy a car from South Africa. Right. Right. It's probably a flamethrower. Is this taking you back home? Producer Jared, when did you leave South Africa? How old were you? I was seven, so that's about 20 years ago. Right. Right. I probably had flames for a while. Is this taking you back home? This is very offensive. Producer Jared, when did you leave South Africa? How old were you? I was seven, so that's about 20 years ago.

Right. Do you remember the Land Rovers in your day there now? Yeah, they were plentiful. Plentiful Land Rovers. There he is. There he is. You could go for a fang in the sand dunes, couldn't you? Yeah, that's why.

Go to the safari. Yeah. Just naming African things. My pa used to take me in his Jeep. Oh, in a Jeep. Yeah. It was pretty sweet. We used to go up to June 7th.

Did he ever have a Suzuki Vitara? No. No, no, no, no. Don't scoff. Don't scoff at the Suzuki Vitara or the Jimneys. Those things are able to go to the light. Yeah, right. They fang on a June.

They fang on a June. I had no idea they'd be good on a June. I thought they were just a mum car for the city. No. God no. Okay. You're thinking of a Toyota RAV4, the early RAV4s. I'm just looking on Trade Me to find out if we could get an easier option than going to the South Africa.

South Africa. 2016 Land Rover. Oh yeah, but no, that's Heritage because that was the last year they made the Defender before they took the break. Defender. 100,000? 44,000 kilometres. Jesus. 85, yeah.

No. Easy. There's one from 1975, which is a bit of your cup of tea. That's 50 grand. Yeah, see how expensive that is? So how much are they in South Africa? So I found one in South Africa. I had to do the on-the-fly.

Jared's fighting this. Very offensive. Exchange rate. What is it? A rand. Yeah. It's like $1? A rand Yeah It's like One dollar to ten rand Yeah

So There was one here That's like twenty thousand But it would be like Worth way more Yeah 2003 And then there was an older one

From like The Oh like This 1964 series 2A So like mine And you get that for ten grand And that's a Pretty good nick

Wow And that's just They're just a pretty good nick. And they're just expensive. I don't know why they're just like, how much does it cost to ship a car to New Zealand? That I don't have an answer for you. But look at this one. This is the one I was just talking about. 10 grand looks like it's in good need. Why do you want that? Because it's got a U.

Similar to your one they've already got. It's an open back. Why not have both? You need to get a more Auckland City friendly one, not another vintage. It's very friendly to Auckland City. How much does it cost to ship a car from South Africa to New Zealand? To New Zealand. Maybe someone's listening to this podcast in South Africa.

And they can ship you a $5,000 car. Yeah. Nothing. Don't you put any drugs in it, that's naughty. From the US they're saying about $7,000. But then don't you have to pay fees when it gets here? Yeah, and you have to pay different

services along the way. But they drive on the same side of the road as us in South Africa, which is good. I just looked up this June 7 you spoke about. You didn't drive up that right No no you couldn't drive up it This sounds like a sci-fi movie June 7

The 10 interesting facts about Namibia So you went to Namibia The Namibian sand dunes A salt and clay pan So it's like a salt flat Surrounded by bright orange sand dunes With like dead trees in it Oh that's your picturesque sand dune, isn't it?

That's beautiful. Big Daddy. Big Daddy attracts thousands of climbers to the height of 325 meters. It's the highest sand dune in the world. 383 meters tall sand dune 7. Yeah, it's cool. I've climbed up it a few times when I was a kid. Can you sandboard down it?

You could. I don't know. I think you'd only do it once, though. Yeah, you wouldn't keep going back up, would you? No. It looks rocky, though. It doesn't look really super soft. No, it's very sandy, but when it gets to the bottom,

it kind of rocks out a little bit. Hardens out a bit. Right, okay. That looks beautiful. I'll leave a June anchor with me then. You know, when this all opens back up again, I'll add that to the bucket list. Yeah.

Wow. Can you put a Land Rover in your carry-on? I'm trying to squeeze out of your head. No, absolutely not, Vaughn. We're always looking for the key to a long and happy life, be it exercise and eating well and drinking lots of water. I'll just be happy for a happy life, be it exercise and eating well and drinking lots of water. I'll just be happy for a happy life. I'm not particularly one of those people that wants to be here when I'm 110

and I'm on the news and they're like, how do you feel on your 110th birthday? And I'm like, oh, boy. Yeah, I feel nothing. And I'm dribbling and I just want to die. Totally. Well, there's another factor that people often overlook that scientists are saying is a real key to longevity. Purpose. Finding your purpose in life.

So not just kind of going by, not just living to fit into a pair of pants and pay a lot of bills. It is a clear purpose in your life that fulfills you. Do you mean like helping community? Well, it can be kind of anything. Helping people. It's key to the individual. So this was a study done in Japan,

and they call it ikigai, which translates to purpose in life or life worth living. And it depends on sort of where you're purpose in life or life worth living. And it depends on sort of where you're at in your life at the time. So when you're younger, purpose could be some career aspirations. Oh, I think you're saying hookups. Purpose could be hooking up and getting laid, having a lot of fun. As you get older, a lot of elderly Japanese that were interviewed about ikigai said their purpose was taking care of grandchildren, volunteering and keeping their street clean and pretty.

So it's just about mentally stimulating your brain your whole life. It keeps you busy, doesn't it? Yeah. You've got that purpose. And it's not just keeping you busy. It's about those, what's the serotonin levels? Yeah, right. That hormone actually has an impact on mortality in terms of. You're getting out, aren't you? So if you were retired, you're doing something.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, because otherwise you just sort of fade away. You see a lot of people come out of retirement and they don't go into retirement and they don't replace it with anything and they sort of just away. You see a lot of people come out of retirement and they don't go into retirement and they don't replace it with anything and they sort of just get a bit withered away.

Well, they've got business to take care of. You know, when they have something to wake up for in the morning, they go like, I've got to get up,

I've got to get this done. Yeah, whether they like it or not. Whereas if I was retired, I'd sleep until I woke up and then probably just stay and bed a bit more too on my phone. Drink a few hours earlier than usual. Yeah, exactly. sleep until I woke up. Yeah. And then probably just stay in bed a bit more too on my phone. Drink a few hours earlier than usual.

Yeah, exactly. Watch a lot of Netflix. And an interesting point of this is that like, so with talks of this, like, what is life about? Life is short, you know, and life's for living. A lot of people are thinking about that at the moment because of the pandemic. We've been locked inside facing ourselves from you know some countries over a year now yeah and then they're going to get out they're going to be like life's for living oh yeah in a separate survey they said that 57 percent of people that responded are now totally re-evaluating

their lives after the pandemic in order to find something more purposeful and more fulfilling in their life. Oh, wow. Okay. And so I would like to announce that I am becoming a horse breeder. Right. Wow. That's a terrible idea.

How is that giving anyone purpose? It's giving me purpose. The horses, they need me. I've got to breed them. Get them going. Get more, more, more horses. We need more. Make more money. Are you a horse person? No, I'm not a horse person. I've got to breed them. Get them going. Get more, more, more horses. We need more. Make more money.

Are you a horse person? No, I'm not a horse person. I didn't think you were a horse person. I've never heard you mention horses before. No. Do you know how expensive it is to be a horse person? Yeah. I'll probably have to have a job to keep up the horse habit.

I don't know if they're going to fit on your section either. What is it, about 100 square metres? Yeah, you're not going to fit too many horses there. You could get like a multi. You could stack them. Stackable horses. Breed them to be square so they can be stacked by those square watermelons. Done.

You've found your purpose again. Done. Go for it. You're immediately. To invent a square horse. Immediately fulfilled. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast. ZM.

Listen up. And listen good. Listen hard. Where is this going? I'm going to tell you something about a little bit of sexy time. So the kids are in the car. Push them out. Don't do that.

Please don't do that. Doctor, the TikTokters. The TikTokters. Becoming more and more frequent. Doctors that come on and give you little tidbits of information. I quite like it. Yeah. You know, they just give you a little burst of like, did you know, blah, blah, blah. So this doctor's come on and said, ladies and gentlemen.

Yeah. I'll correct him there. And anyone in between. Here's a little sex tip for you, especially if you're not very impressed with your partner's sexual stamina. Yep. Testosterone, which is the male sex hormone, is usually highest in the early mornings. This translates to stronger erections and more potential rounds of sex.

So this means you are likely to get the strongest... Yep. Yep. Yep. Attention. Attention. In the early mornings. Right. Than at any other time of the day when the testosterone is rushing around their entire bodies. But at early noughts. And all we do is get up and come to work.

Wow. That's not the morning. Honestly, that's the middle of the damn night, isn't it? Yeah. 4 a.m. But there you go. In the morning. That's when your arousal will be at the morning. Honestly, that's the middle of the damn night, isn't it? Yeah. 4 a.m. But there you go. In the morning. That's when your arousal will be at the top.

Yep. Your breath will be the worst. I will add that in there. Yeah, that's always the thing, right? Everybody's self-conscious about their own breath, but you realize you're also kissing somebody else who has the manky breath. So just let the manky breath be the manky breath. Unless, like, you've both been drinking the night before.

Then maybe have a mouthwash pre. Oh, please. Oh, get up and wash. Get up quickly and have a quick listy. And then you hop back in the bed before your testosterone starts to come down. That's also not sexy, is it? Hey, look, can we just pause here and have a mouthwash? Have a gargle.

It's not. All right, babe. Back in. Here we go. Yeah. Ew. Don't do that. Back in. Here we go. Yeah. Oh, don't do that. That was the mouthwash noise. Could have been something else.

We're all doing mouthwash noises. What? So we'll see. What are you into? See you all in the morning. Just take a little bit of extra time. Maybe set your alarm. I don't want to put a time on it because it's going to say too much about me.

Weekends. So set your alarm a little bit earlier. And you might get one or two or three rounds in before you even have a shower and go to work. Right, okay. Thank you, testosterone. God, we love you. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. From the ZM Think Tank, this is the Top Six.

Welcome to the Top Six. Today we're looking at the Top 6 other songs you can reference today, the last day of April, before tomorrow is May, other than NSYNC's It's Gonna Be May. It's gonna be May. See, it's classic. Yeah. Saw it a few days ago, people trying to get in early.

Yeah. Bang. This is a good song. This is a jam. This is an absolute banger. I had that real 90s. This is 99. This is another one from the Absolutely Amazing Year. That was 99.

I think it was. And it had that real bam, bam. Yeah. That's how we were dancing in 99. Yeah. Bam, bam. Up and down. It was released in 2005.

I knew it wasn't that old. Was it? What? 2005? Wow, okay. I always thought it was way older than that. Okay. Okay, so it's going to be May.

It's coming up. We're kind of stalling for time. I think we should. Here we go. Here we go. Classic. It's going to be May tomorrow. I've got the top six other songs You can reference apart from it's gonna be May

Number six on the list That don't impress May much By Shania Twain Yes Because Mays are very hard to impress month. It is. It is. Because everyone's sort of really sad that it's the middle of the year.

It's getting cold. It's getting colder. It's getting darker. Plus we lost daylight savings at the start of the month. Yeah. And it's just getting darker every day. Yeah. Winter's around the corner.

Yeah. Again, we're stalling until it gets to the part. I could fast forward it, but I'm scared I'm going to lose it. I think maybe it does need a... Okay. So you're a rocket scientist. That don't impress

a May much. See, that works. That works. That works. Okay. Our number five on the list of the songs you could reference today

going into May last day of April apart from It's Gonna Be May is this song in at number five on the list of the songs you could reference today going into May, last day of April, apart from it's going to be May, is this song. And at number five, Don't Let the Sun Go Down on May. By Elton John. You're going to have to fast forward that one. This is it. No, it's not.

Yeah, a bit more. It's a long long indulgent intro from It is Well, I'm like out to bed Self-indulgent I took a chance A bit more Keep going

A bit more But you miscarried me A bit more, a bit more A bit more? Yeah, a bit more, a bit more Here we go Here we go Here we go

Don't let the sun go down on May. That was terrible singing. Almost better for the end of May. Yeah, yeah. But it's to be used somewhere in May. Alright, number four on the list of the top six songs you can

reference going into May apart from that, what was the original one? It's gonna be May. It's going to be May. Yeah. Insane. Number four is Taylor Swift's Look What You Made May Do. Look what you made my day. Yeah.

Like when May gets cold or dark or generally gloomy. You want to fast forward this one as well? How far in is it? Wow, remember when this song came out, everyone was like, what? Yeah. What did you do? She is angry. That's fine.

A little more. Here we go, here we go. Look what you made me do. Look what you made me do. Look what you made me do. Look what you made me do. And here comes June. Okay, that works. You can work June in there as well.

That one works. Number three on the list of the top six songs you can reference apart from the NSYNC song, it's going to be me. Number three, Bring Me to Life by Evanescence. This sings to me. I would have had you pegged as an Evanescence This sings to me I would have Absolutely Had you pegged as a Gothic soul Evanescence fan

Yeah Oh because this is double Wake May up Wake May up again Oh yes Wake May to Life Wow That's a good one to do today

Yeah Bring May to Life Yeah It was the end of April Fast forward this one I just want to tell Hayley This story about Did you know why the guy

Has a verse in this Why The record label said She sounded too feminine And it wasn't going to sell any units. Anyway, now that we've just thrown that grenade in. I'll keep fast forwarding a little bit, a little bit more. Tell me when to stop. No, offer it. Resident Golf, you need to tell me when to stop.

Here we go. Here it goes. Here it is. Wake me up. Wake me up. Wake my up inside save me me from myself okay i don't know if that's not as much maybe yeah i don't know if that may anthem will work is good wake me up all right uh number two on the list of the top six songs you can use to welcome in May, apart from it's going to be me, is... Looking forward to May, you would take on May.

Take on May. Take on May. Take on May. Let's find that chorus. Here we go. Take on May. Take on May. Take on May. Take me on.

Take on May. April is good. See, these all work, guys. Just roll with it. And number one on the list of the songs you could reference going into May, apart from Instincts, it's going to be May. Call me maybe. Because it's call May, May, Bay.

Yeah. Call me maybe. Call me maybe. Hey, I just met you. Call me maybe. Call me maybe. Call me maybe. Call me maybe.

At you, baby. See you in April. Call me maybe. Call me maybe. At you, baby. See you April. Call me maybe. It works. It works, guys. It works. That is today's Sock Sucks. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan.

The podcast. ZM. I've gotten better at this morning thing since hanging out with you fellas. Since getting to the age of 30. I'm a terrible morning person. since hanging out with you fellas. Since getting to the age of 30. No. I'm a terrible morning person. I am a night owl. Still am, unfortunately.

Yeah. And so this is calling my name, this article I've stumbled upon. Five habits you should avoid first thing in the morning. Okay. And I've been through this list and I'm guilty of all of them. Going to the bar. Yeah. It's a bit poo-pooed. Okay. And I've been through this list and I'm guilty of all of them. Right, going to the bar.

Yeah. It's a bit poo-pooed. Yep. Especially this early. But if you find one that's open, do let me know. Well, if they're doing a breakfast. If they're doing a breakfast.

It'd be rude not to have a breakfast beer. A me-mo-ma? A mimosa? A me-mo-mo-ma. You've had too many me-mo-mos. Hello, could I please have a me-mo-ma? Just another round of me-mo-mas.

I'm here for the Bala-mo-s brunch. Can I have another MemoMa? Yeah, you're getting evicted. So the number five on this list of mistakes you should avoid first thing in the morning is completely overlooking your mental well-being. So being so rushed for time and so tired and busy and, you know, under everything that you don't actually make time to start your day right you know you could you know you know people that wake up and have a

little meditate in bed I mean I'm I admit I will never be that woman I don't have a minute no no I get a little bored I know I should do it more meditation try to turn the mind off but then it's just the minute I try to turn it off it's like don't you tell me what to do. And then it starts racing. And what if you turn it off right before the moment you're going to have the best idea of your life? Yeah. You would have missed it.

Have you done like the Calm app? The Matthew McConaughey like listen to my voice and chill out vibe? It doesn't work for me. It doesn't work for you. So they're saying, you know, do things like make the bed, open up the curtains, get some sunlight in and make you feel happier. Number four on that list, not washing your face properly in the morning and using an SPF. Now, I'm an SPF advocate, but I'm not a deep face washer in the morning.

I do a deep nighttime wash. I might do a flannel and a little moisture and some SPF. Something about waking up first thing in the morning and putting on sunscreen at 4am, 4.30am. In the dark. In the dark. It's a bit weird. But you should be wearing it at all times. That sun that's coming in that window, it's burning you right now.

Right. Even though it's not at all close to summer. Yeah. Or direct. Right. No. Yeah. Number three, filling up on sugar right away.

Guilty. Yum, yum, yum. You, I mean, they're saying sugar like obviously you don't want to eat a chocolate bar but you eat about 90 pieces of fruit by the time it's 90 i do i do so you know it gets me through trying to just sort of peel back a little bit maybe add some prot in there yeah right okay uh number two on that list letting your mind be directed straight to your phone oh it's the first thing i do in the morning. I know. Alarm goes off. The phone is the alarm.

I pick up the phone. I'm like, you snooze and tell me when I really need to get out of bed because I've got Instagram to check. And then when you do get up, you check Instagram, don't you? Then you sit on the toilet for a bit and you're still on Instagram. Well, that's it. Number one, hitting the snooze button. Guilty as charged.

And when I first started getting up at 4 a.m. to be here, I was like, get up or you won't get up and now I'm like 4.20 4.25 See why not just set the alarm at 4.25 and get up then. Oh you sound like Aaron He's always like why Why do you have 50 alarms

Criminal when a partner snoozes 3 or 4 times especially at 4am and then doesn't get up. You do it on purpose. You need to leave a few to sleep through. Then you need to leave one to be like, I just want that. I just want a little bit more.

That's a nice feeling. And if it's good enough for me to be getting up at 4 o'clock, it's good enough for everyone else in the house to be awake. Absolutely. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Bakery of the Day. Buongiorno. Bakery of the Day is where every Friday we meet two bakeries.

They go head to head. Yeah. Recommended and impassionately sold to us, the bakery committee, to be the winner for the week. A then laminated certificate is sent to that bakery for them to display in their window. I think this segment also makes me buy bakery treats on a Friday. Same. And Saturday and Sunday.

Totally, but supporting local industry, buy local. La-di-da-di-da. La-di-da. La-di-da-di-da. Bakery number one. All right, let's meet bakery number one. And Alyssa joins us. Good morning, Alyssa.

Hello. All right, so what is this bakery? Where is it and what does it do? It's Northern Dairy in Stratford in Tarnaki. Oh, my home region. Well, no, dairy's one of the bakeries too. Explain thyself. This is a bakery.

Bakery of the day. Yeah, it's got like, there's like a dairy part to it and a bakery part to it. Like it's kind of mixed together. Oh, okay. This is a, what to it and a bakery part to it. Like, it's kind of mixed together. Oh, okay. This is a, what would you call that? Like a hybrid. Daiquiri. Daiquiri.

In Taranaki, I'd say it's inbred. Oh, boy. It's an inbred. How very dare you. It's a dairy. It's a mutant. It's a mutant food outlet. Dairy meets bakery.

Now, Alyssa, the Northern Dairy and Stratty, what does it do that's so good? They honestly do the best chicken and chips. Oh, like the hot country fried chicken. Yeah. And their chicken nuggets is like chunks of actual chicken, not the processed chicken nuggets. Oh, powdered chicken.

They make their own chicken nuggets. Oh, good lord. Wow. I'll be a few truckies stopping at this dairy on the way through. Do they have a sweet section? Any slices? Any sweet buns? I can't comment on that because I don't really go in there for that.

If I'm going in, it's for the chicken. We put a huge amount of weight now decision making on the slices that you can have with your pies, your sandwiches, your hot chicken and chips. Have you Googled any of these images? Are you seeing any sweet? I've seen huge ice creams. Oh, okay. I've seen huge ice creams, but again, that's more the dairy side of things than the bakery.

Yeah, it is. All right, Alyssa, wait there. Bakery number two. We must meet now, Amy. Amy, welcome to Bakery of the Day. You are nominating a bakery. Which one? Baker & Co in Glen Innes.

Oh, okay. Now, tell us about Baker & Co. What do they do that you love? Well, I love celiacs, and they just have the biggest range of basically anything gluten-free that you can think of, like lamington, donuts, hot cross buns. It's just, like, soft and delicious. Oh, and you don't miss the gluten at all.

No. So do they have options loaded with gluten? They do. They have loaded gluten options as well. Right. Okay. I just don't want to miss out on the gluten as well. Now, Amy, I love a lamington.

How long do they soak the lamington in the raspberry juice for? And is it a thick lamington icing? It is a very good coating icing. Yes. Because when a bakery cheaps out and they don't dip it in for long. Nah, some pale pink sand. Yeah. No, no, you want to be able to peel it off a little bit.

Yeah. Yes, Vaughan. Interjection. Okay. I'm on their website. They describe themselves as a cafe. Oh, we have had this before. They bake cakes for birthdays and prearrange cakes to take away for birthdays.

That is technically a bakery. That's not a New Zealand. That's not your rather than a New Zealand bakery. So we've got a cafe up against a bloody dairy today. It's a dairy bakery versus a cafe bakery. Well, it's got a bakery in the name. I am a baker in the name who can work at a cafe, depending on what the baker, but the bakery.

Either way. And I feel like this attitude I'm getting from Amy, she knew what she was doing when she called today. Hang on, because you're saying on their website, they describe themselves as a cafe, but on Facebook they describe themselves as a bakery. Well, Alyssa, we've got Alyssa on the line from the NACI now with her bakery, Dairy, and Amy, the bakery slash cafe.

I'm putting my vote today towards Alyssa. Wait. I have some final information. I've scrolled further down on Baker & Co. We take this very seriously, guys. I hope you can hear that. They were doing hot cross buns for takeaway orders.

Yes. Which is far more in the area of... Of a bakery. Of a bakery. That's kind of a bit of a bakery game there. Yeah, well, I was just going to let Amy go.

I was just going to let it go, but fine. You were about to cut... There's a melting moment there. Oh, shit. Now, they don't have those at the Stratford Northern Dairy because they're too busy

making huge ice creams and deep frying their own chicken. doing scratchies and $1 mixes. I think it's a straight up dairy. Alyssa, I'm throwing my weight behind you because I'm from the Naki and I love the sound of a homemade nug. You push over

wimp. I'm sorry, my vote goes to Amy for Baker & Co, which is a bakery. It is a bakery. Not a dairy. And I wish I could sustain from voting this week, as I feel like we've branched

away from our traditional Kiwi bakeries for a dairy and a cafe. But I'm going to have to side with definition and go with Amy for Baker & Co, because it's more of a bakery because it's more of a bakery. It's more of a bakery.

Amy, congratulations. Alyssa, hard luck, but I tell you what, it does sound absolutely divine. We should rename the segment Noms of the Week. Noms of the Week. And we just take nominations for noms. Yeah, because then that'll open it up to

fried chicken. Well, now I feel bad for all the fried chicken places making delicious homemade nuggets that don't qualify for a seven because I'm at a bakery. True. Hiya, guys.

Congratulations. Amy, taking it out this week. Baker & Co. Get our laminated certificate in the mail, which they probably have no idea is coming. No.

Well done, Amy. Perfect. Thank you. We've received an anonymous email, and I believe it's something we can help with. Okay. I will read it out to you. I've been in a relationship for seven years

and about to hit the dating scene again. So I'm going to assume that that relationship is ongoing. You missed out the part where you broke up and it's over. Yeah, that's okay. Okay. But I feel really uncomfortable about going solo. If I bring a friend to a date, is that weird? Should she sit at a different table?

Should I pay for her meal? Sincerely, Anonymous. Okay, wow. Okay, there's a lot to unpack here. So if you were going on a date with someone that you'd met on, say, Tinder, Bumble, whatever, and they're like, I'm bringing a friend how would you feel would you find it odd i would find it i would want someone to go on a date with me if they didn't feel comfortable enough to go solo yeah and then also is that saying that they're not very dependent

but then i get the whole thing that it can be scary and totally totally but i would i just would say we don't need to rush into going out on a date If you're not comfortable Yeah Let's not for a while Also this is like I'm assuming a date At a restaurant That's a public place

Yeah I mean this is something That's come up quite a bit In recent times Because of horrendous things Happening to women On dates of strangers Yeah

And they do say Bring a friend Or at least You know Have them nearby In the same restaurant Yes that's a good idea I would maybe go

A lingerer I would maybe go. A lingerer. I wouldn't keep it secret. I would definitely say like, yeah, hey, just given the current climate, the fact we don't really know each other, my friend's going to come along and just be at the restaurant. But looking forward to getting to know you. But then you're as that one person, then you're meeting two people that you don't know.

I know, but if they sat sort of at a distance watching you. Oh, like a chaperone. See, but I've actually done this. I've gone along with a friend. We were in New York, and she's like, well, I've met this guy on Tinder. I want to have a drink with him. And is it all right if we just go out and meet him at a bar? And I was like, absolutely.

And then the plan was if she liked him and she got a good vibe, she'd just shoo me away. See, I think it's a good idea. But you have to be honest. We heard from someone once, I was reading about someone, they just turned up with two people and they didn't expect it. Yeah, that's a bit odd, isn't it? I went on a date. I thought it was a date.

I obviously wildly misread the situation. And when I got there to pick her up Her friend was like Cool And I was like Oh hey And she jumped in the back And I was like Oh okay

And then we got there And another It was at the movies And another person Met us there Turns out they were Using you for your car Yeah my sweet ride man

Who didn't want to Be picked up in a cool You were just the wheel To start it But um Yeah I just But that was on me I misread the situation.

And, again, if they didn't feel comfortable. Yeah. I mean, yeah, I'm not against it, but I'd find it quite way more anxious if you're then having to talk to two people. Yeah, it depends on the reasoning, I think. If she's going because she's saying, you know, I've been in a relationship for seven years, so seven years is probably quite comfortable at that point.

Yeah. You're not used to having to put yourself out there. So if she's bringing a friend along in order to be like a conversation starter, that's not good. You need to be able to, you know, get a chat going on your own. So on the back of this message in, should we take some calls?

Like, how do people feel about this? Do you think it is weird to bring someone along on a first date? Maybe you've experienced this. Maybe someone has brought someone along on a date. Maybe they didn't tell you. Or maybe, is there anybody listening who's done that thing where the other person's secretly been at the bar like their friend, just watching? Just to make sure that nothing dodgy happens.

Yeah, and they feed you the lines. Like a Juno and Ben sketch or something. We're not on a date anymore, are we? We're part of a gag. Yeah. Okay, 0800DARLS.M, you can give us a call. Is it weird to bring someone on a date anymore are we? We're part of a gag Yeah Okay 0800DARLS.ME You can give us a call Is it weird to bring someone on a first date?

You can text them as well 9696 We have been lucky enough to receive an anonymous email The conundrum is Haven't been on the dating scene for a long time About to get back into it Feeling uncomfortable Should I bring along a friend?

Can I bring along a friend? Or is that weird on a first date? Do you think there's a business model in this, a business idea like date surveillance? Chaperones. Yeah, and you tell us where you're going and then we send like a panel van along and we've got spy equipment.

That's creepier than the person in the date. The panel van's notoriously creepy. No, but that's where we set up surveillance HQ I was thinking something a bit smaller scale That you just hire a chaperone They sit at the bar and keep an eye on you Well there's that angel shots thing You guys know about angel shots?

You go to the bar and you order an angel shot And that's the signal to the bar That you need help, you're not comfortable If they can assist you And then they've got a plan to get you you out and do you know i don't know if you guys would know this or if it's the same in the male bathrooms but in lots of bars yeah uh on the back of toilet stalls they say if you're on a date and you don't want to be anymore come to the bar and say and they'll be you know their own oh that's cool yeah yeah text us on this number and we'll

come get you out yeah so that's basically the here. Is it weird to go on a first date after this? Girl's been now newly single after a seven-year relationship. Is it weird to go on a first date and bring a friend for backup, for support? What do you think? 0800 DARS.M, you can text him as well, 9696. Carla, what do you think? Is it weird to bring a friend to a date?

I actually think it could be quite a smart idea because I feel like it actually can be really intimidating to start dating a guy, and especially if he's been with someone for ages. Yeah. So I feel like if it does make her more comfortable and if she feels like she'll be more confident if she has someone with her,

then maybe she should do it. Yeah, see, I totally get that. But then from the other side, I'm just like, now you've got to, like, get nervous about talking and meeting two people. Yeah, so you're trying to really impress one, but still impress the other. Well, yeah, because if you don't impress a friend,

she's going to be like, no, that guy was a dick. Yeah, that's true. Maybe he should bring a friend along as well. Your friend can't go to Champerone and be like, he wasn't paying me enough attention. That's a good idea, Carla. No, but what if she thinks my friend's hotter than me? Bring an ugly friend.

Well, then you should up your game. Bring an ugly friend along. Okay, but that's actually, yeah, not a bad point, is it? So if she was to say to her date, hey, I'd love to go on a date, but to make me feel comfortable, I'm going to bring a friend along. Why don't you do the same and we'll make it a little hangout? A duble. Good idea.

Yeah, not a bad idea. All right, Carla, thanks. Good advice. Sage advice. Matt, what do you think? Is it weird to bring a friend on a date? Yeah, I think it's pretty weird. I think she just needs to get out there, you know,

throw herself in the deep end. Right. Famously terrible swimming advice there. That's how people drown Yeah Maybe the shallow end Throw yourself in the shallow end Go to a public event

Or something Yeah So do you Would it make you anxious Matt If you went on a date With somebody And their friend was there

Yeah Yeah I'd be constantly Watching what they're doing Not what I'm doing Distracted Yeah But then at the same time

You hear it's hard For women to feel safe. Yeah. And so you can see why they're anxious about going on a date with a stranger. Yeah. Yeah, true. I know, it's a complicated one, isn't it?

Yeah, all right, Matt thinks he calls some text messages in. Yeah, why not? Someone said, suck it up, sis. Don't subject your friend to the awkwardness. See, I'm more of a fan of the friend just hanging back at the bar by herself or getting two friends so they just look like they're there for dinner themselves.

With tranquilizer darts. Yeah, just in case. At the ready. The moment they see him looking at a drink or something. Yeah. Just tranquilize straight in the neck. I don't think so, buster. Maybe don't bring her along, but instead tell her where you'll be

and ask if she can have her phone on her if anything goes wrong. Yeah, and find my friends. Turn that on. You will not. You still won't turn it on for me. I won't turn that on for you, no. You won't turn it on for me. No, I won't.

Well, the time I had to rescue him from the sex dungeon, I didn't know where to start looking. There was no dungeon. What are you talking about? It was tied up. Oh, my gosh. The things I saw. We had a safety word, but it wasn't respected. What are you talking about? It was tied up. Oh my gosh. The things I saw. Somebody else said, We had a safety word,

but it wasn't respected. Right. Well, and that's, that's why if you'd taken me initially, I could have said, excuse me, that's the safety word. I know, yeah.

Somebody said, I love this idea. A good friend would do anything to help you ease back into the dating situation, which could be dicey even if you're a regular. Yeah.

And if she's in a relationship, why don't you get her and the partner to come to the same restaurant and sit at a different table so then there's not a person sitting by themselves. Right. Shout them a couple of drinks. They get to have a dinner date, but also get to keep an eye on you to make sure you're safe. I feel there's also one friend in every friend group that loves to invite someone straight away off a dating app just to meet and come to your parties and stuff.

Yes. Do you think that's a good way? But then you're also, as that person, you're coming in and meeting all these strangers as well, aren't you? That could be intimidating. Yeah, I know. I don't know. I mean, I haven't been dating for 10 years.

Right. So probably from the feedback we've had. Totally. Do it. It's totally fine to bring someone along. Don't make it a surprise to the person. Let them know that that's happening, but totally do it. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. Do it. It's totally fine to bring someone along. Don't make it a surprise to the person. Let them know that that's happening, but totally do it. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast.

It's Polly, Molly, Molly, Molly, Molly. Polly, Molly, Molly, Molly. Come on! Polly, Molly, the personal grooming edition. We ask you a bunch of questions about your personal grooming habits. Do you get nose hairs? Uh-huh, get them waxed. Do you? That's right, you do. Do you get nose hairs? Uh-huh, I get them waxed. Do you?

That's right, you do. Do you get the hot wax up and they wait and then they rip it? Yeah. Nice. Yeah, I like it. Good for you. I like it. I just give it a little trim.

Yeah, I had one of those trimmers. It's weird when you don't get them done for a while and then you get the wax and you go, and there's like nothing stopping the air flowing straight into your lungs. Yeah, but then there's nothing stopping the snot running down I have wondered about that Oh no there's nothing stopping like the dust And all the bad stuff that the hair is supposed to stop right That kind of like a filtering situation

That's why I think a trim on a man is better Because then you're just getting the ones that are hanging down That's the issue That's what I do You don't want to be bald But they say it is The people that do the waxing say it's their Favourite part of the body to wax

Satisfying First time hurts Maybe I like it Maybe you hate it Maybe you're a Sato machinist A Sato machinist A shish Sato machinist. A Sato machinist. Yeah, that's a Shiseido machinist.

Ah, thank you. I knew I was saying it wrong. Do you wax slash pluck slash thread your eyebrows? We asked you and 83% of you said yes. Yes, I do. 17% said no. And this is a male and female poll. I always get a lot of shit for my eyebrows,

especially from Megan who's on maternity leave currently. What's wrong with them? They fade out to nothing. They do. I fade out and they fade out. Did you hear that?

She just laughed. Yeah. They go from dark to blonde or light. You just need to get a little tint. But then also

you get some real long ones. Yeah, but that's normal for the boys. That's age. Oh my god. When I see a long one on someone I'll just give her fingernails But then also you get some real long ones. Yeah, but that's normal for the boys. That's age. Oh, God, is it? When I see a long one on someone, I'll just give a fingernail and rip it out. Yours are really good. Oh, no, don't look up close, though.

I'm due a thread. I'm saving them. When I first saw threading, it blew my mind. How does it work? It's nuts. So basically you're twisting. I don't know how they do it Because then they put it in their mouth I'm not sure

But they're twisting two tight bits of cotton And as you pull the twist It grabs onto the hairs and rips them out Like an epilator It just plucks You're plucking the hair out of the socket It hurts But it just gives a way better finish

And plucking is so like one by one. And waxing can irritate. So threading, it's so good and so affordable. Somebody said they had never done anything with their brows until they went to get their makeup done and the lady asked to shave my brows because they were bothering her. Bothering? Shave? That's an overstep of the mark.

Yeah, that is overstepping. I was teased for my eyebrows when I was a kid because I have a very strong brow. And that's in now. And back in the 90s, man, it wasn't in. Pencil's in. So I said to my mum, I'm getting teased for my eyebrows. And she sent me to a beauty therapist to get them plucked for the first time. I was 12 years old.

My mum said to the woman, just a little, you know, a tidy up. And the woman gave me those tadpole pencil thin year 2000 eyebrows. Oh god. And I came out looking shocked and I went back to intermediate and my teacher was like, hello brows! It took years. They take ages

to come back, eh, when they went too thin on them. It took years. I'm only just there now. I'm surprised Drew Barrymore's even came back. Oh, yeah. If you don't know what I'm talking about, Google Drew Barrymore in the 90s. We asked how many facial skin products do you use? How facial skin care products do you use?

From zero to ten on a sliding scale. And the average answer was three and a half. Three and a half? Yeah. Someone said the absolute minimum is three. Cleanse it, moisturise it, and sunscreen every day. Sunscreen every day. Oh, yep.

The older I get, the less I spend on makeup and the more I spend on skincare. Me too. So what do you use? I'm a bit full on. I've got sort of problem skin. You had Clearacil. Do you use Clearacil? Oh, God, no.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I had acne and I've got eczema. So it's sort of like a balance of, and now that my acne is all gone, shout out to my fellow acne friends, I do a lot. I'm a lot. I'm like a 10 step. Really? Morning, night.

I wash my face with the same stuff I wash my body with. I just don't stop. That's grim. I come up over the head onto the face. Vorn. And then the beard oil that I put in, I just put a little bit extra on and I rub it on my face as well. And look at me. Vorn.

I don't look a day over 58 years old. You've got great skin. You've got good skin. Do you wear sunscreen? If I'm in the sun, I always wear sunscreen. No, but you're under the sun every single day of your life. No, not right now. I'm under the roof. I know I should, but I always wear a hat.

Okay. Always wear a hat. Yeah. My face is somewhat shaded. That's smart. You've got a good forey because that doesn't get the sun. Beg your pardon? The forehead doesn't get the sun.

Oh, forehead, yes. How often do you wash your hair? We asked. Daily, every three days, or weekly? And the average answer was every three days. Oh, yeah. I leave it as long as possible. You really have to train it to not get greasy so easy.

Yeah, okay. It's a hard process. How do you train your hair to not get... As a bald man, I've got questions. Yeah, I don't know that one. I mean, I've got fine hair, it it needs to be washed quite often if i went three days i'm on day two now and i look like a wet dog you've got a dreadlock forming oh yeah i've got something going on um but yeah you you stop washing it for a long period of time until apparently your hair starts

to self-clean itself so then you're. So then you start to just introduce washing it back in. I just can't. I can't. This is a good question, too. Somebody said, I know you're not supposed to, but every day I wash it, seeing as I'm always at the gym. So does that,

because that would be if you didn't wash your hair after getting very sweaty. Yeah. And I guess. Give it a rinse, I guess. But your hair as well also goes on all the machines and benches and stuff. Yes. Or it could do. Or the mats. So yeah, you would, wouldn't you? Give it a rinse, I guess. But your hair as well also goes on all the machines and benches and stuff. Yes.

Or it could do. Or the mats. So, yeah, you would, wouldn't you? Give it a hot rinse. Yeah. Do you remove any body hair? What do you think the percentage of people that remove some form of body hair? It's got to be.

80 or 90%. Yeah, like predominantly yes. 97% said yes. Wow. And that's like male and female too. Wow. But then guys would. Shaving.

I'm not talking any sort of hair. Yeah, like shaving the face or shaving the downstairs, the nether regions. Someone said laser hair removal has been the best investment I've ever made. Well, Vaughn and I have done that. Hayley, do you know that? Have you? Where did you get it? I got it all from my back and my ass

you're back in your ass and did it last um well it's it's like i'm at the latest stages of finishing it and oh yeah i've noticed a massive difference it's incredible and where did you go same he got his vagina done um which i commend him for thank you thank you yeah second crack it was at first it was hard because i was like, you know, she's going to see it all. Yeah. But they're very good. Oh, they are. Oh, they are.

Man, they must see some things, eh? It's only the first time that it really bothers you when they pull your arse cheeks apart and go, can you just hold this one? And you've got to hold yourself, sort of spread eagle to the wall. I was shocked the first time I got asked that by a hair removalist. All right, we'll keep you turning your stomach and grab each cheek. You're like, where are you going? How far up did you want the hair going?

Somebody said, I literally don't see the point when most men don't and no one bats an eyelid. From a human woman. Yeah, that's fair enough. From a human woman. Oh, yeah, if the male's not going to do it for you, you don't need to do it for the male. It's a personal choice.

Yeah, get it done. Do you pay attention to your nail health? Is our final question in the personal grooming of Holy Moly. 38% said yes. 62% said not really. I usually have good nails, but I'm painting a house at the moment, so they look... Mine have always got dirt under them.

Always. You're a bloody farmer. The cuticles are a mess. I do like going and getting a mani-pedi, though. I won't be ashamed of that. No, you shouldn't be. Oh, God, no. Real men should get mani-pedis.

People said, strangers often compliment my long and strong nails and don't believe me when I tell them they're actually real. And someone said, wait a minute, should I be paying attention to my nail health? And someone said, I am a recovering nail biter, two years strong without biting. Congratulations. So there you go, that's a general

feel of it for Poli Moli, the personal grooming edition. Heading into the weekend, here's a story about sleeping, specifically at the weekend. Okay. Firstly, basically whenever we talk about Here's a story about sleeping Specifically at the weekend Okay Firstly Basically whenever we talk about a sleep story It's never good news for us Or people awake when we're awake No

It's terrible Once you learn about the circadian rhythm You're like Yeah I've never read In all the time that we've been doing Breakfast Radio I've never read a story that's like Ah

Sleep's overrated Don't worry about it Stress yourself out Go to bed late Wake up early Don't get enough sleep Yeah Nap unhealthily Links during the day On and off Absolutely no routine Don't worry about it. Just stress yourself out. Go to bed late. Wake up early. Don't get enough sleep. Yeah. Nap unhealthily links during the day.

On and off. Absolutely no routine. There's never been that story. Yeah. But this story comes to us from the University of Michigan, and it basically worked out that a lie-in at the weekend could make you, could worsen your mood for the weekend. No.

Yeah. If you change your sleep routine drastically on the weekend, you're just setting yourself up for failure. I've always said that I've likened it to friends when they talk. You always get asked about, you know, what time do you wake up in breakfast radio? It's always like, for me, it's 4.30. So I've always said that at the weekends, if you sleep in too long,

it's almost like you've just gone to Australia for the weekend and you've just altered your time zone and your sleep patterns a couple of hours yeah and then you feel just for those few days you can feel a bit groggy if you sleep in too much well thank god I'm here for a good time not a long time because I have not adjusted to this at all I go to bed late I get up at four yeah and then on the weekends on a Saturday I'll probably sleep until like 9 30 10 o'clock then I'll go to bed super late and then I have March in the next day, so maybe get up at 9. Then I'll get super late that day, and then it's 4 a.m. again.

Yeah, they say at the weekend, if you go to bed late, but you have like a disturbed sleep, like you wake up when you normally wake up. Yep. And then you stay in bed, though, and you have like a disturbed sleep, rather than just getting up and getting on with it and coming back later for like a dedicated nap. It's not good for the mood, it's not good for the brain. People that are up this time of the morning that have

been up for a while, they're not going to want to get up at the same time on their day off, are they? No. Who's getting up at 4 or 4.30 on a Saturday and just like hanging around home like, so dumb But in saying that, 7 o'clock's about it on the weekend. Oh yeah, I'll never sleep in past 7 or 8. Guys, you've got to try it, come back

Come back to the real world. You're lying in bed and then you feel like you've wasted and then you hear your grandad You waste half the day! When I used to stay at my grandparents' as a kid, I'd get out a bit at 8.30 and he'd be like Half the day's gone! Shut up, grandad. They didn't have pals, alright?

We have boxes and boxes of pals that we drink and we're up until 3 in the morning, and we need to sleep until 12. Right. And then get some junk food. Yeah, exactly. Which they couldn't get because they lived on the farm in the middle of nowhere, and

there wasn't junk food outlets. Yeah. Give us a break. What did they do back in the day? On the way home? Read books? On the way home? On the way home from-

You know, was there like, did they just do takeaway fish and chip shops or something? They did. Like, you know, what did they do? At the pub there would have been food. The white lady. And I guess you got home and burnt your house down when you started cooking something and fell asleep. Your house had burned down. But you would have actually had to cook something.

Like, they didn't have a lot of easy, like, ready to. Not Uber Eats. No. God, we live in a great time, don't we? Appreciate it. Not really. Nah, pandemic. 2020, 2021., we live in a great time, don't we? Appreciate it. Not really. 2020, 2021, not great. Not a great time.

ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Now, if you follow my wife or myself on Instagram, you may have noticed Friday nights have become a bit of a happy clapping. They really have. In the Smith house, a couple of drinks, and out come the two pink guitars that we bought for our daughters because they want to do guitar lessons. See, this could be your YouTube channel, Two Pink Guitars. Two Pink Guitars.

And it's just me absolutely butchering songs I have no business playing. So you guys bought them for the girls, but you play them. Correct. Do the girls get a go? Yeah, the girls can can never go if they want um charlie's actually a phenomenal guitar player because she grew up her dad's very musical her brother was in a band like she can actually play guitar and she can do this thing i even after six or seven years of guitar lessons as a kid i still can't listen and decide what the strum of

the song should be oh yeah I was just hearing before In the break You've got a very And then I think about it I'm like oh I haven't gone up for a while So I go down down down So you don't have the No

Warren has found a guitar in the office This is it Shout out to Anika Moore Oh don't break that then Should you even be using it She's a popper musician Warren has found a guitar in the office. Shout out to Anika Moore. Yeah, this is Anika Moore's guitar. Oh, don't break that then. Should you even be using it? She's a popper musician. Yeah, right.

She's going to be looser with the rhythm. Your Pachianus is coming out. It's stiff, right? It's like I can't relax into it. When there's an instrument in my hand, I'm I'm hunched. I'm at full panic. But anyway, the girls came home. They had their first lesson after we'd been absolutely dominating the time on the guitar. And they said, Dad, do you know a song called Smoke on the Water?

What? Like from the 70s? Deep Purple. Yeah, like a 70s song. Right. A classic. Oh, because this would be easy to learn, would it? Because it's...

It's about a... Isn't it about a fire during a Frank Zappa concert? Is it? Is it what it is? So it's simple because we were just talking about strumming before. Yeah. Nothing required apart from... Down, down, down.

Down, down, down, down. Down, down, down, down, down. down, down, down, down, down. So they've taken the strumming out of it so the kids can concentrate on the chords. Right, okay. So they were like, do you have no smoke on the water? And then Indy pulled out the guitar and played Smoke on the Water, and I was like... Was it good, though? Was it just...

No, it was probably about the equivalent of me doing it now. Okay, can you show us how that... I've got to see what order the chords are in. I think I know it. Oh, whatever the chords. You don't know. F's a hard one because you've got to bar off the whole first fret.

Right. That's F. Okay, that sounds nothing like... That's a beautiful sounding F. I'm not going to be able to do F. You're in an acoustic, and I think they'll have a thingy on. F, G, F, G.

This isn't the one I was looking at yesterday. It was all like E's and A's. I can do E's and A's. Let's just hope the girls get their musical talent from their mother. Oh, we're really hoping so. The whole way of playing guitar is to go F, G, F, G. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. That's a G.

Right. But then I get caught up, I get freaked out by the ups and downs. Yeah, right. I really got to work on my, but I can do Fire, Water, Burn by the Bloodhound Gang. Oh, okay. That's a good strum. That's not bad. Yeah, that's pretty good.

See, but Sade's not white, is she? She's not so... She's got music from all over the world in her veins. And then it goes... Oh, my God. This is so terrible, isn't it? There we go. Well, I've just checked as well.

Two pink guitars. There's no YouTube channel called Two Pink Guitars. You reckon we do it? I reckon get it started. Just be like, people will wonder what's wrong with me. They'll think my wife is like looking after someone. Like it's music therapy. Yes.

Yes. Fleshfauna Megan, the podcast. ZM. Should I feel guilty? I'm just trying some different surfaces Okay That was good I think you've got to hold it closer to the microphone

Yeah that's No it sounds like That sounds like one of those little pig toys That kids have Where they put the little circle in And then tap it with the hammer I'm a Buddha now daddy I'm a Buddha

Are you proud of me, Daddy? No, Vaughn. You're 18 years old. Well, you're a judge. You've got to be taken seriously with that hammer. Judge Vaughn, you have received a query. Should somebody feel guilty about this? And then we pile on and decide if they should.

Yes, here it is. I have a question for Judge Vaughn. Well, you've come to the right place. A few weeks ago, when our flat lease ran out, my boyfriend and I decided to take living apart. Oh, okay.

Take two living apart for a while. That's a different route, isn't it? Wow. Yeah. So the lease came up and they went, right, I guess we're just not together anymore. Well, she goes on to say, we were fighting all the time

and he said he needed some space. Okay. We have barely been talking since, maybe a couple of texts a week. I feel like it was more him saying he wanted a break than me and from me. But he didn't officially say it's a break? He just said, well, let's try living apart for a little while. Okay. Oh, there's already some grey area here.

Yeah, a lot of greys. Last weekend, I got pretty messed up with the girls. Yeah. And I slept with another guy. Oh, okay. I've been thinking about it heaps, and it's made me realise that I do really love my boyfriend, and he's the one I want to be with.

Should I feel guilty for sleeping with somebody else while we were on a break? And do I have to tell him? Well, she's just said they're on a break, but he's just said it's time apart. It's living apart. That's not a break. That's just not being in each other's face 24-7. Yeah, this is complicated because it was not clear from the start.

Then the communication's been rubbish. Just a couple of texts a week. Yeah, at the start I was like, she needs to dump him. Yeah, same. Because if he's not that into it, why bother carrying on? He's not being communicative Yeah, it kind of does sound like the writing's on the wall, right? But there was no writing on the wall

So no writing, yeah, so there was just sort of vague kind of symbols on the wall I was waiting for the he cheated bit, but she cheated Well, they can cheat too, do you know? But now, so she's, this cheating, this cheating has made her realise that she wants to be with him. That's even more complicated now because she's just not feeling guilty. She's like, no, no, no, I actually really want to make this work. The cheating's made her feel like she really wants to be with him,

but maybe the cheating's going to make him feel like he really doesn't want to be with her. Do you know what? I think she has to give him the choice. Yeah. I think she has to be honest. But should she feel guilty? Just like you chose to get some of that sweet, sweet loving, he gets to choose whether or not, with all

information put in front of him, he wants to carry on. And if he says yes, he's not allowed to hang that over your head. There's point getting together there's no point getting back together right yeah if he's just going to use it as a bargaining chip in the future that's not healthy i don't think she should feel guilty if she comes clean that's my okay okay then all right well we'll open it up judge oh 800 dance at m 96 to text in. Give us a call or a text right now. Should this anonymous emailer feel guilty for sleeping with somebody else when she was on a break from her partner that he just said time apart,

she's labelled a break, and now she's realised she wants to be with him? Bit of grey area there. What do you think? Let us know. ZM. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Should I feel guilty? Well, Judge Vaughan with his gavel and judge outfit

that gives him grey hair in his beard and mouth. There's a lot happening in your beard right now. For the rest of the goddamn week. Oh, yeah, look, it's coming out. It's everywhere. It's a lot. It's everywhere. Well, someone messaged in asking if they should feel guilty

regarding their current situation with their partner. The flat lease ran out. He was like, maybe we should spend some time apart, i.e. live in different locations, but not necessarily not be exclusive. She said communication's been poor. Last weekend, she got litty with the girls and ended up sleeping with a dude,

which made her realize she loves her boyfriend. I think her boyfriend doesn't love her, though. Yeah, a bit of a conundrum. Yeah. So should she feel guilty about what she's done and does she need to tell him? Yeah. Grace, you reckon she should tell him? A hundred percent.

She needs to right now. Why? Why? It's only going to make things more complicated. Couldn't she just die with the secret? If you want to get back into a relationship with someone, it needs to start off with truth. I feel like you're never going to have a successful relationship

if you're starting off on a lie. Oh, Grace, you're so good. You're so, yeah, yeah, you're so nice. Yeah. I think you might be right, though. I agree. Because he has to be given the opportunity to make his own decisions. A hundred percent.

I just don't think he's into her. Do you think she should feel guilty about what she did? I mean, tequila puts you in some weird places sometimes. We've all been there. Some weird places in Mexico, for example. I've blamed tequila on many in some weird places sometimes. We've all been there. Weird places, Mexico, for example. I've blamed tequila on many things. You're not wrong. And I mean the whole Ross and Rachel, if they were on a break.

But I think no matter what happens in the past, you've just got to own up to what you've done and just face the truth. Yeah, brilliant. All right, Gracie, thanks for your call. Ruby, Ruby, what do you think? Hi there. I think that she should just keep it to herself for sure. Tuck it away for a rainy day.

It was a break. Just let's file that and it didn't happen, move on. Okay, so Ruby's a monster. Ruby can just bury guilt and completely forget about it. Yep, it's happened to me before and it didn't go too well, so yep, just definitely keep it to yourself. Were you the one that had the indiscretion, Ruby? Yes.

Okay, and you were quite able just to forget about it and just move on? Yep, just move on. Did they find out? Yeah, I ended up telling them. Oh, okay, right. See, the guilt got you. Brilliant. Ruby, thanks for your them. Oh, okay, right. See, the guilt got you. The guilt got you. It got you.

Brilliant. Ruby, thanks for your call. Ryan, what do you think? Hey, how you going? Good. I don't know. I reckon if they were on a break, like, it's fine. Like, he can't really get mad if he's the one that, like, asks for space in the start of it, you know?

If he's the one that asks for space, he's been really cool with that dad. Yeah, asking for space and then asking for your girlfriend to sleep with someone else is two different things though. Wildly, wildly. Just some time apart so I can get to know myself and we can maybe, you know, make the absence, make the heart grow fonder.

Yeah. It's hard because it's in retrospect, isn't it? Like, she's already done it. It's been done. It's just how she deals with the mess. Ryan, thanks for calling some text messages. Someone said, Ross and Rachel done it. It's been done. It's just how she deals with the mess. It has. Ryan, thanks. Who calls some text messages?

Someone said, Ross and Rachel said it best when they said, we're on a break. But I don't think she ever said that. I think he said that. No, and he didn't even officially say a break. He said some time apart. Right. There's grey area. There's grey area.

She needs to tell him he may have meant space, but probably didn't mean that much space between them and such much space between them and such little space between her and somebody else. Go for it, girl. If he was lukewarm on you, you feel free to do as you want. Yeah, and she could be saving herself a lot of worry and stress here by just having a conversation with him and saying, are we even still together?

Do you want this to carry on? If he says no, just leave. Then don't tell him. Don't tell him. Don't worry about it. Tell him and you don't have to apologise for it. You've got nothing

to be sorry for. Hmm. That's from... So what do you reckon all up... What do you reckon overall people are saying? Um...

It seems quite 50-50. I feel like a lot of people think that she should tell him. Yeah. But not feel guilty about it. Well, yeah, I'd say that would be a fair ruling. Okay, well, is that your ruling?

You're the judge. Sentenced. Do you even know how, like... Overruled. Guilty, not guilty. Guilty, sentenced. Like, is that... Should she feel guilty?

Yes. Flesh, fauna, Megan. The podcast. ZM. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Today's fact of the day is about the origins of the saying, happy as Lowry. I always say that. Happy the origins of the saying, happy as Lowry. I always say that.

Happy as Lowry. Happy? Happy as Lowry. Lowry's a happy guy. Happy as... What is it? No, that's it, eh? There's no more to that saying.

No, happy as Lowry. Happy as Lowry, yeah. Well, it's an Australian New Zealand saying. Is it? If you say it in other parts of the world, they probably won't have heard of it. Maybe a little bit in Britain, but certainly not. Like, Americans will look at you like, Larry King?

I mean, they look at you anyway like that when you speak because they don't understand our accent. You're so freaky, man. So Larry is indeed a real person. Larry Folley was a boxer, an undefeated boxer. That's why he was so darned happy. Because he didn't lose. He was a winner.

Yeah. When was Larry Foley this boxer? He was a boxer. He lived from 1849 to 1917. He died at the age of 67. That's old for then. For back in the day, it was. He had a lovely, there's a photo here,

and he's got a lovely big pair of lamb chop sideburns. He's an older gentleman. He was a boxer. After he finished boxing, he became a coach. He changed some of the rules. He was like a legendary dude. He died of heart disease. But before that, you might be thinking, why was he so happy? Well, he never lost.

He never lost at boxing. His background in boxing was when he was 14, he moved to Sydney. Yeah. In Wollongong, and he was 14 he moved to sydney yeah uh and wulongong and he was a catholic okay this is back in the day where there was a real divide between catholics and protestants like anglicans and baptists and stuff and there was like roaming street gangs where they would just meet up and pretty much like fight club have a massive scrap and the idea was you didn't like dob anybody in you didn't call the police on the fights you just fought oh yeah fought for god and he became a bit of a force to be reckoned with in there and so then he tried his hand at actual boxing uh and he was really good at it he went pretty much

undefeated his whole career had a couple of interesting calls uh by the way this also was the day before the modern 12 rounds at three minutes each. Boxing matches went for however long it took for someone to get knocked the F out, basically. Wow. In 1878, he fought a championship bout with a guy called Peter. And a number of rounds, the fight was declared a draw because the police had to intervene in the 40th round of boxing. Oh. Far out.

I don't even like watching one round. I find it just... Brutal. Ouch and brutal. So brutal. Absolutely brutal. So this went for 40 rounds. Wow.

Yeah, he specialised in those really long run fights. And apparently because he never lost, he was always pretty happy. But it's crazy how that then turned into a saying that's lasted, you know, over a hundred years. Till now. Yeah. Well, it's over a hundred and four years since he died. Yeah. And everyone's still saying happy as Larry.

I'd love to start a saying that then became sort of international. Horny as Hayley. Horny as Hayley. And then like in a hundred years, they'll be like, have you ever wondered about the expression horny as Hayley? And they'll Google it and they'll find out. It was you. It was me.

You need a backstory though. That has a nice origin story. I don't want to get into my horny origin story to be honest. Not at this time of day. So today's fact of the day is Larry, who was very happy so you could say you were happy as Larry, was an Australian boxer.

Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. And we've been doing this all week. You tell us how bad your date was and we will refund it. We'll put it through the date refunder, $6,000. $6,000? What are we up to now? Do we get an upgrade again? Yeah, because the $4,000 broke. It was a dodgy one.

So we put the details in and then we'll see how much it refunds. Holly joins us. Good morning, Holly. Morning. How are you? Good, thank you. Now, you've been on a terrible date. You'd like a refund for it.

Let's start from the start. What happened? Okay, so I'm going to set the scene here. This was my first ever Valentine's Day where I had a boyfriend. Okay. So I was pretty excited. Yeah. So I organized a boyfriend. Okay. So I was pretty excited. Yeah. So I organised a babysitter for my son,

and I cooked a big, beautiful dinner. We're talking like scotch fillet, duck fat, roast potato. Oh! It was a beautiful salad. Miss that last bit because we were all about them duck potatoes. What was the last bit? A nice salad. You know, you've got to balance things out.

Oh, okay, okay. We're going to skip that. I'm glad we drummed up the salad. Make it on you. You're going to have something green on the plate. Maybe next time, maybe like a broccoli cheese. Oh, yeah, that would be a good idea. A broccoli dish with heaps of cheese.

Hayley, that's inappropriate. Go on. It just makes me very excited. Go on, Holly. And I really went all out with the gift. I brought Dior Sauvage cologne, which everybody knows is an amazing cologne. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wait.

You bought someone a gift for the first date? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We were together, but it was our first Valentine's Day. Oh. Yeah, right. So confused. Go on. Yeah, sorry.

Right. So I got all that. And anyway, long story short, he turned up an hour late, completely drunk, and he got me a lotto ticket. And did you win anything off that lotto ticket, Holly? No, it was a dud. So you put in all, not only did you put in all this money for the cologne and for all the food, and you put in all the time getting the dinner ready.

Yeah. And I bet you shamed your legs as well. I really set the standard quite high, actually. Oh, my gosh. Right. Okay, so how long after that Valentine's Day date did this relationship end? I'm pretty ashamed to say it carried on for a little bit longer, but it is well and truly over now.

And that is one of the standout moments for me. What an absolute dud of an evening. Yeah, so how much did this dud of an evening cost you financially? I would say it would have been, including the cologne, about $200. Okay, how long ago did this happen? Because we must take into account inflation, guys. It was about, it wasn't this Valentine. It was about two years ago.

Oh, inflation's been pretty flat lately. It's been pretty flat. Yeah, right. Okay. So $200. We'll just plop that through the date. Punch the holes in all the different bits of paper. Your date refund request has been...

Accepted Thank you to the date refund of $6,000 It's very fast, the $6,000 We don't muck around Congratulations Holly, $200 All yours Go and buy yourself a nice perfume with it I will actually

There is two terms Now recognized two terms for people who talk at the same time as you. Now, what you're doing. I think what you're doing is. Interrupting. Interrupting. That's the initial one, right? Are you an interrupter? Or there's a new term and it's called a cooperative overlapper.

That's what I am. Okay. Now, you don't even know what it is so stop talking! It feels right and I'd just like to come in here and have my own two cents. So an interrupter interrupts,

often puts the brakes on it, changes the topic or generally doesn't help. Yep. That's someone who interrupts. A cooperative overlapper is anything but. They're a person who talks at the same time as a person talking to validate, to show that they're listening. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Like what kind of what? Like keywords you repeat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like that. Yeah, like, oh, Steve wasn't up. Steve wasn't up. And they're ushering you along.

Yeah, so why wasn't he home? They might chuck a word in. Yeah. When you are, like, struggling to find the word, they're like, I got the word, and they'll chuck the word in When you're struggling to find the word They're like, I've got the word And they'll chuck the word in You love doing that because it's like a thesaurus game I'm a walking thesaurus

You're all the time And often will be ushering the person In the right direction to keep speaking And to maybe hurry the hell up And make their point That's not written down in this In this description, but I feel like it plays a huge part of it.

Right. Just when something's taking for ages, like my kids will take the long route on a story. I don't know where they get that from. It doesn't sound like a hereditary issue, but I can see where it's going. So I'll give them a push in the right direction because A, time is money,

and B, I'm just a cooperative overlapper. Yeah, I definitely do that. So the study's been done. What to look at the difference between? It's not so much even a study. It's just a university professor of linguists and author, Deborah Tannen, has said she's seen this and she believes this isn't the same as interrupting because it's actually someone who's helpful to your conversation. So's just clarifying a new sort of term yeah so they're

more likely to have less patience for your long drawn out story aren't they yeah they're ushering it along they're getting out or they might like it so they want to feel involved in it right so they start talking along with you they're not trying to stop you from talking they're not trying to make it about themselves they're just talking at the same time as you are talking all those people that interrupt and change the subject completely differently from what you're talking about that's back on the interrupter side of things yeah right but an interrupter it's two ways right you could interrupt something and go i've interrupted but i'm for my own spin on what you're saying.

Yeah. And then taking over. But then there's people that just interrupt and just go a whole different left turn. Yeah, hijack it. Yeah. Take it away. See, we're all cooperatively overlapping. Well, you would hope so, considering you work in radio.

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