ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 3rd June 2020

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Hello and welcome to the Fletch, Vaughan and Megan podcast, brought to you by McCafé. Grab yourself a delicious barista-made coffee for only $4. Good morning, welcome to the show, Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, Wednesday morning. But it feels like Tuesday, is that right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Coming up. 2028, if you ask me. Something's gone weird with the timeline.

Yeah. Coming up, we need to talk about something that Carole Baskin has done. Joe Exotic is going to hear about this in prison, and he is going to be fuming. Livid. Absolutely livid. I feel like surely everyone's seen that show right now. Tiger King on Netflix.

Everyone that's going to see it has seen it. Yeah. Not my parents. Yeah, they're not going to. My parents aren't going to watch this. They'd think it was silly. Are the top six coming up? It sure is. The top six things they'll teach you on are the new

trade apprenticeships. You can get a trade qualification now. It's going to be free in a whole bunch of areas. I'll tell you what areas. Great news for people who want to get into the trade. Yeah. And great news for people who want to hire young tradies. It's just good news all around.

All right. So the top six things they'll need to teach you. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast, ZM. So Joe Exotic, he is from the Netflix show Tiger King. If you haven't seen it, you really should. Currently in prison? Currently in prison. And he is going to hear about something in prison

that is absolutely going to make his blood boil. So his zoo was taken over by, why do I always forget that guy with the bandana's name? Joe, um. Not Joe. Jeff. Jeff Lowe. Jeff Lowe.

Yeah. His park was taken over by Jeff Lowe. It was renamed the Tiger King Zoo. Now, there is a ruling that dates back to 2016. The short story is that Carol won a million dollar judgment against Joe. And so however many years later, she's never got any of the money. So the court, the judge has said, because you're not going to get the money, we need to transfer the zoo over to Carol Baskin.

Wow. So Joe Exotic Zoo, while he's in prison, is now going to be transferred over to Carole Baskin, his arch nemesis. But did Jeff Lowe take the animals anyway for his new park? So that's the thing. So Jeff has said we anticipated that this was probably going to happen. So they've been building another

park, another Tiger King park in Oklahoma. Yeah, so that's the one that is now open right? By the world's largest casino. Yeah, Joe Exotic's one isn't where the Tigers all are anymore. No, he

transferred them over. So Jeff Lowe's got his own zoo now. It's called the Tiger King Park. And so he's making money off everyone else. And Carole Baskin's going to get Joe Exotic's original zoo. Right. And he's going to be in prison, like, absolutely spewing. Spewing.

Land beach, Carole Baskin. As we know from the show He's her biggest fan Yeah And you know A balanced guy With a calm demeanour Wasn't he getting a radio show? They were gonna do like a

In prison Yeah they were gonna do Some radio station was like Getting involved to You know make some money out of Joe It had to be over the phone wouldn't it? Or something like that yeah It was gonna be a special But I was like Oh I'd have to be over the phone, wouldn't it? Or something like that, yeah. It was going to be a special.

But I was like, oh, I'd listen to it now just to hear what Joe's got to say about Carol taking a zoo. But, yeah. It'd be better with a podcast. Everyone's getting a podcast. Get them a podcast. They could just record it in prison. Yeah.

Because we have something that's like when you have to broadcast from somewhere that's not a radio studio, the setup, the wires, the Wi-Fi going to be okay. Yeah, yeah. It's prison Wi-Fi like. Because we've seen what it's like when you have to broadcast from somewhere that's not a radio studio. The setup, the wires, the little problems. Yeah, the Wi-Fi going to be okay. Yeah, yeah. It's prison Wi-Fi like. Just go a podcast. Yeah.

Record it on your phone. Vogue, the magazine. It's very expensive and it's run by Anna Wintour. What came first? What? The song or the magazine? I don't know actually. You know the Madonna song? Yeah American Vogue is. What? The song or the magazine? I don't know, actually. You know the Madonna song?

Yeah, Vogue. You got it? I don't just have every song ready for as soon as you. Literally what the computer in front of you has. Every song. But I literally have to go

production. Well, I can find it. I can find it. I've got it. I've got it. Just put my channel up. 1892 was the first. God, Anna Wintour's old.

So the magazine came first. But what are you looking at? Wow. I was just wondering if it was like, this song is about the magazine, right? Vogue, Vogue, everybody. Or is it just about the... I don't know. I don't know.

I never really thought about it. Okay, maybe that's just me. I always assumed it was about... But like saying something was in Vogue. Yes. Like it's... In Vogue's different to Vogue, though. But did in Vogue the saying come from the magazine?

No, in Vogue's an old... It's French, isn't it? Isn't in Vogue a French term? Yeah, wouldn't you say E-N? Yeah, yeah. E-N Vogue. It's not like you're in a Vogue's an old, it's French, isn't it? Isn't In Vogue a French term? Yeah, wouldn't you say E-N? Yeah, yeah, E-N Vogue. It's not like you're in a Vogue. You're cool because you're in Vogue magazine. So apparently Madonna's best friend, Debbie,

first noticed the Vogue craze while they were out clubbing. She was fascinated by the way these men would strike a pose. Oh, like they were going to be on the cover of Vogue. Guys were doing it. Apparently. Oh, like they were going to be on the cover of Vogue. Guys were doing it. Apparently. Oh, I want to see it. Yeah. Let's bring that back.

Let's not. Strike a pose. That could be the new dirty grind though. Right. Given that you can social distance. So nothing to do

with the magazine. Or maybe. Fashionable. It's literally French for fashionable. Oh, okay. And Vogue is the French word for fashionable. Right. And Vogue is the French word for fashionable.

Right. So Vogue, the magazine, they have broken tradition. Always the cover of Vogue, like you'll see a supermodel or a celebrity be like, oh my God, I'm on the cover of Vogue because it's a big deal. Yeah. But it's always celebrities or supermodels. They're broken tradition and they have gone with, the cover of the magazine essential workers. Oh wow, okay. So they

still look pretty fashionable but there's a train driver on the London Underground, a community midwife from East London. There's different people who have a different... Rubbish guy? Oh, I don't know. That was the oft-forgotten

essential worker of the lockdown. Yeah, wasn't it? There's a supermarket assistant from King's Cross. How would they have found... Do you reckon they just walked around? They'd be like, do you want to be on the cover? I'd be like, yeah. Oh, imagine being in the deli and you see the person coming

and you're like, this is it. I'm going to be asked to be Vogue. And they walk past the deli to the bakery and you're like, you've got to be kidding me. You've got to be kidding me. Yeah. And then I guess inside they're you're like, you've got to be kidding me. You've got to be kidding me. Yeah. And then I guess inside they're going into like,

you know, talking about what each person does and breaking down. They're saying after that because they're still doing the eight o'clock clapping. Right. After the claps fade,

they hope that the NHS and the essential workers won't be forgotten. Right. That's nice. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM.

From the ZM think tank. This is the top six. The government, I believe it's a soft G, have scrapped fees for all apprentices from July 1st in a bid to maintain trades through the

COVID-19 economic downturn slash recession. Which is going to be great because I guess if people have lost their job, they can retrain. Yeah. And loads of area. And it's not just your usual, like I thought this would just be, you know, sparkies and builders. Primary industries, including agriculture, horticulture, horticulture, vinticulture, fisheries, forestry, construction, plumbing,

building, civil engineering. Community support's really interesting. That includes youth work, caring for the elderly, counselling, community health,

including mental health and addiction support. Manufacturing and mechanical engineering and technology, electrical engineering, road transport. So that's like

heavy vehicle operating. Like driving a truck. Yeah. Do they give you a scarnania first day? Oh, you don't get the Scania first day, mate. You've got to work up to that. You're crazy.

Okay. What are those little trucks called that look like a shrunk down truck? A Dino? A Dino? A mini truck. A Dino? The ones you can hire with a car licence. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, but that's not a real truck. I want a big one. Exactly. You've got to work your way up to the scale to your beat. Anyway, it's pretty good news. Yeah. If you want to diversify, retrain, get into a bit of viticulture, wine and stuff. That is, yeah.

That'd be a good one to get into. I mean, we all drank enough over lockdown. Maybe we should learn how to make it. Yeah. You know, give back to the industry that we've taken so much from. So the top six things I can teach you for your trade apprenticeship before you start on July 1st. Right, okay, Vaughan Smith.

Welcome to the Vaughan Smith School of Apprentice Trade. You've got 27 days, 27 days until July 1st so let's get this underway with number 6 on the list of the top 6 things I'll teach you on my trade apprenticeship scheme

the best place to get a 500ml energy drink and a pie for breakfast often it's at the servo sometimes there's a good bakery on the way you can get energy

drink and a handmade pie sometimes it's all about that combo price though, isn't it? Exactly. Yeah. That's economies of scale

and if everyone in the van is getting one, I'll swipe my flybys. What are you basing it on? Quality or price? Megan, it's where they both intersect. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. See, we've got 27 days. It's time to sharpen up. Number five on the list of the top six things I'll teach you on the Vaughan Smith

Trade Apprenticeship pre-actual trade six things I'll teach you on the Vaughan Smith trade apprenticeship pre actual trade apprenticeship I'll teach you how to get your fair share of the tradies free clothing even when you're a newbie yup

you know free clothing yeah you need to get a bloody Bunnings hoodie I've always wanted a Bunnings hoodie have you

I just want a Bunnings hoodie now you're in a green hoodie I want a Mitre 10 one I'm in a black one with a slight orange highlight or see I'd do that too or just even a Bun. I'm wearing the Mitre 10. Now you're in a green hoodie. I want a Mitre 10 one. I'm in a black one with a slight orange highlight. Oh, see, I'd do that too. Or just even a Bunnings like a big hat, like a sun hat. No, they got tarnished with those unruly tourists.

Oh, they did too. But it's important. Well, I'd do a Bunnings t-shirt then. And then people think I'm like mask, mask as. And they'll be like, oh, give us a hand with chucking this jib up. Yeah. And you'll be like, oh, no, it's all powdery. Yeah.

You guys are big tradie, though. I want to go, like, niche. Is there, like, a little niche store I can get a jersey from? Oh, yeah. Okay, blue. She's more of a hammer hardware. That's very local. That's very local.

No, don't be offended. That's your local. You're sporting your local there. Yeah. Yeah, I'll go hammer hardware then. Just you're more of a yellow person. I think, yeah. That's what local. You're sporting your local there. Yeah, I'll go have a hardware then. Just you're more of a yellow person. I could see you in a yellow T-shirt. Yellow's hard to pull off.

Thank you. You'd definitely be placemakers. With your blues. Yeah, because I love blues. You love blues, so you're placemakers. Number four on the list of the top six things I'll teach you at the Vaughan Smith Trade Academy. Which is just changing its name every time. VTA. The VTA, yes.

Yeah, VSTA. Vaughan Smith Trading Academy. Before you say your actual trade apprenticeship, how to make a phone call last 20 minutes when you're on somebody else's time. That's where you're like, hammer, hammer, oh shit, hold on, this is about my other job. Hold on, mate, I'll be right back.

Yeah, g'day. Oh, God, yeah. Nah, nah, nah, nah. And then you walk outside. Yep. shit. Hold on. This is about my other job. Hold on, mate. I'll be right back. Yeah, g'day. Oh, God. Yeah. Nah, nah, nah, nah. And then you walk outside. Yep. And you walk away. Maybe have a smoke. Hide in the van for a bit. Yeah, but it's fine because you're on someone else's time. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Number three on the list of the

top six things we can teach you here at the Vaughan Smith Trade Apprenticeship Scheme. V-T-A-S. V-S-T-A-S. Before you start your actual apprenticeship come July 1st, I'll teach you how to park your work van on the softest part of somebody else's

lawn so that you get stuck and make a real bloody mess. That's something we offer here. Yes, yeah, yeah. Don't know why they've pulled in off the concrete. Nope, they're on the grass. Nope. That's my berm, not even the berm in the person's place you're working on.

And then when they leave. All right, get out and push me. Number two on the list of the top six things I can teach you at the Vaughan Smith Trade Apprenticeship Scheme and Collegiate Aligned Qualification Institute. Yeah. apprenticeship scheme and collegiate aligned qualification institute. Yeah. And number two is how to always seem to have a ciggy come smoko despite never buying a pack of ciggies yourself.

When you truly master this, you're ready. You're ready to go out there into the real world. And number one on the list of the top six things I'll teach you here at the Vaughan Smith Trade Academy scheme in conjunction with the NZQA and builders thing worldwide. Number one is how to slack off the other trades to the person who's hiring you so it's never your fault. Bloody Sparkies. Bloody Sparkies. Bloody Sparky.

Bloody Sparky. Bloody Plumber. You seen that, Plumber? Oh, the builders. Shit. And always remember, always remember, it's very easy to blame the painters. Yeah.

Because they're high on fumes. Too high to defend themselves. That is today's Top Socks. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Prime Minister today unveiling what level one will look like. And then hopefully next week, like a week today, we could be in level one. I don't even know.

Amazing. Could we go to the movies? Oh, no, because there's no movies out. There is. Is there out. So there is. Yeah, true. Is there? Yeah, there is. I saw the cinema close to us put up a list of like,

when we reopen, this is what's going to be. Yes. I'll go to old movies. I don't care. Just want to go to the movies. A lot of cinemas were doing, eh? Yeah. Playing really old, like the classics that you might never have seen in the movies

that were considered like blockbusters that must be seen on the big screen. Yeah. A Kmart employee put up a video. Georgia Cook is her name. The video has now been deleted, but now everyone knows her name. Is she in trouble? Well, a lot of people are saying you could get fired for this, but I don't think so.

She shared a couple of secrets about Kmart and how to, I believe she's in Australia. Right. But she said, if you find products in the store and they have some damage, but you're still okay to buy them. Yeah. So I don't know if that would include, probably not damage box because the actual product isn't damaged.

Isn't damaged, yeah. But if there's like some clothing or something that's got a mark on it, you should always ask for a discount. isn't damaged but if there's like some clothing or something that's got a mark on it you should always ask for a discount she said at her store we can give you a 20% or more discount if something

is damaged you just need to ask I always ask for a little disky if there's any of course you do and that's not just a camera

a little disky a little disky is that how you do it excuse me can I have a little disky I have a little disky and does it ever work yeah all the time like what on what well it's Excuse me, can I have a little disky? I have a little disky. And does it ever work? Yeah, all the time.

Like what? Well, it's damaged stock. They're going to have to discount it anyway. Because once you point it out to them that it's damaged stock, they're like, oh, okay, and they put it somewhere, and then later on it ends up on that little table that says damaged stock. And it's usually labeled damaged stock. Yeah, trouble is you look like someone who'd damage it

just to get a discount, a disky. Get a little disky. Get a little diskey. Get a little diskey. So there's that wee point. Yeah. She's also said, again, this could just be her store, but in her experience, she said that half the workers don't know where the stuff is and staff will only help you

find the stock if you are nice to them. So she said, if you ask for something, if it's out of stock, we'll say yes if you're rude and annoying, so be nice. So they're like, hey, do you have a fan?

And if you're rude about it, they're just going to say, no, we're out of stock. I think if I worked in retail, if people were nice or not, if someone said, can you go out the back, do you have any more of these?

I'd always say, no, we're out. Because I'm lazy and it's a long way back to the room. I'm going to the back room for five minutes of doing nothing. I'm taking every opportunity to go out back. I'll just go check out back.

The customer's just going to sit there waiting for you. I don't care. So you're both bad employees for different reasons. Sorry that took so long. There's a lot of stock out there. We just had a stock drop. What did? Stock drop. Sounds legit. It's a lot of stock out there. We just had a stock drop. What did? Stock drop. Sounds legit.

It's where they drop off all the stock. Yeah. And we haven't sorted it yet because we've been flat out running out the back checking every dumb customer's request. Yeah. They're all so massive. If someone's like, where is the... I'd be like, I don't know, man.

Your guess is as good as mine. I love doing that at Mitre 10. You're like, excuse me, whereabouts are the mousetraps? But they always know. I know. It's awesome. Are you testing them? Yeah.

Most of the time, you kind of know what area it would be, but you just ask. Like Bunnings and Mitre 10, they just are insane. Yeah. You ask for something very specific and they can take you right there. Yeah. That's a skill. They're like, it's four steps that way. Then turn left and follow the treasure map.

Oh, that'll be where you'll find your mouse traps. Flesh, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. ZM. The supermarket chain, so it's the Woolworths Group. They own Woolworths in Australia and here it's countdown, they are going to reward 14,400 Kiwi employees across 183 stores and distribution centres with $750 Australian dollars worth of shares in the company. Wait, $700 each?

$750 each. Wowzers. Yeah. Oh, I got my phone out because I was just looking at my shares because I was going to see how that affectedzers. Yeah. Oh, I got my phone out because I was just looking at my shares because I was going to see how that affected them. Right.

Because I'm a big time Wolf of Wall Street roller now. Yeah, with your 50 bucks. I'm $13 up. Right, okay. So watch out retirement. You just got slightly

more plush. But that's pretty good. So what would you do if you were a countdown worker and you had $800 worth of shares? Would you just leave them?

I don't know. Or would you just be like, free $800 cash amount right away? That's $11.6 million of shares. Yeah, right. I said it was about 10 million Australian, didn't I? Yeah, that's quite a... That is quite a chunk. That's a good gesture.

It's a fantastic gesture. But then did they make heaps during lockdown? Yes. Right, okay. Yes, yes. Yeah, but I make heaps during lockdown? Yes. Right. Okay. Yes. Yes. You know what I mean? Technically, they pay their staff.

They don't have to give them anything. No. But the argument was that these staff were on the front line. Yeah. Putting their lives at risk. Yeah. And we all said that they should get danger pay. Oh, absolutely.

So that's a good move. Yeah. So you've got, does that mean you've got 700 and something dollars and then when the share price goes up, you get like a little more? It goes up. As soon as I went to 800, I'd be like, cash out, cash out, cash out. Or it could go down. Oh, yeah, that sucks.

Yeah. But that's the share market, baby. You know, if you just put it away and you didn't just put it away and you just left it for a few years. You forgot about it. And then you go back and then it's like 20 bucks. Could be. Or it could be a thousand. What's it going to be, 20,000?

That's an incredible amount. So somebody, did I ever share the story on air? I don't know. I don't know. Is it appropriate? It's appropriate. Okay. Somebody messaged,

it was when we, I think we were talking about like, what did you give up for love? We did a phone-in topic. I remember you told me about this, but I can't remember

if it was on air or not. Oh, no, you didn't do it on air. So, this person was working for Amazon in the early days of Amazon and was having

a long-distance relationship with somebody. It got to the point where the person was like, you've got to move over to me. So they left America. They were at Amazon and when they they were at the early stages, at some stage there was a share offering. People who were

working there got some shares and then they had an option to buy some more. And then if you stayed for the first two years, you got a $55,000 share package as like loyalty to the company two years, you got a $55,000 share package as like loyalty to the company. Yeah, right. So when they left just before two years.

Yeah, right. Then they came down here. Yeah. And recently they looked into what those $55,000 worth of shares would have been had they stayed a couple more months and got to the two years thing and then just sat on them.

$4.5 million. Jesus Christ Because Amazon shares went through the roof So their long distance love cost them four and a half million dollars God you'd reward that over They can never break up Great ammo in an argument

Well you haven't unloaded the dishwasher I moved down here for you You cost me four and a half million, you son of a bitch. Flesh for an Amegan, the podcast, ZM. A New Plymouth op shop's telling people to remember to check the pockets and such of things before donating goods. Right. That's popping them in the clothing bin, et cetera. Because a book, the New Zealand Gardening A to Z, was purchased at the St. John's Op Shop in New Plymouth,

and six cannabis leaves were scattered throughout the pages. Someone had used them because they looked like a big, heavy book, so I think someone had used them to, like, press them. Oh, yeah, right. Beautifully preserved. Yeah, right. Cannabis leaves. Maybe they were just using all the pages to collect different samples of all the plants in the book.

No. Why would you start with M? Start with an agapanthus, wouldn't you? Sure. Work your way through to a xeranium. Xeranium. It's not a plant. It's not a plant.

Sounds a bit low on that. Geranium. Yeah, yeah. I just put a Z on the end. A xeranium. Geranium. It's not a plant. It's not a plant. It sounds a bit low on that. Geranium. Yeah, yeah. I just put a Z on the end. A Zeranium. On the start. A Zambia. A Zambia or a zebra plant or a Zinnia or a Zizi plant.

Zinnia. I think I've heard of a Zinnia. No, you've heard of a Gardenia. Gardenia. Maybe that too. How do mums know so many plant names? I don't know. I don't know.

So play your mind. Your mum will be like, oh, look, Ian, it's a gerbera. Gerbera. Jesus, we've got a real life plant snap over here. I remember my nana was amazing. She'd go somewhere and she'd say, oh, what a lovely petunia. But obviously. Rhododendron.

Yeah. Oh, that rhododendron hedge is to die for. We're about to see a daylings. Yeah. I don't know. Now, my mum's like, would you like some hydrangeas? Yeah. You could plant them under those trees.

Oh, aren't they lovely? Yeah, they all die. White. White hydrangeas. They all die. No, because you can feed them different things and they turn different colours. Do you know that little trick? No.

You can get a copper, I think, or make it blue. Jesus, I am turning into my mum. Yeah, listen to you. Look at me go on my hydrangeas. Anyway, they didn't get through that. They just got a few marihuana leaves and pressed it in the book. So they said, they're probably yours. I always thought the op shop, when they got clothing donations or whatever,

they'd go through the pockets, right? Yeah, because I'd be like, is there any money in here? I'd say if they picked them up and they were unusually heavy, they might like give it a feel. Give it a look. Give it a go through. But like a book, you wouldn't shake out every single book. No, that's true.

Yeah, right. Would you? Nah. So you'd find lots of old Easter egg tinfoil wrappers pressed. Did you press those? Those are pretty special. You could get one of those off a cream egg without ripping it. What are you pressing those for?

Spread it out. Who knows? Kids. of those off a cream egg without ripping it. What are you pressing those for? Spread it out. Who knows? Kid things. And then press it. You certainly weren't going to reuse it. But yeah, there's marijuana leaves found in this book. Have you ever purchased anything and found... I know people who buy like cars or get...

Our old neighbours growing up got a Japanese imported van and they said there was this weird noise so they took out that centre console. It was a snake. No, it was just like a bunch of coins. Obviously there was some part of where they kept putting their coins in Japan. It had a hole in it. Yeah, and it was slipping through there

and they just had this bunch of Japanese coins. Which was pretty cool when you're a kid to see Japanese coins. Because they were all different. I remember there was that news story last year of that old mate that got a set of drawers on TradeMate. That's right. Took them home and there was like a few thousand dollars in there. And he handed it back.

Yeah, that's never happened to me. Really? Nah. I'd love it to. Sometimes you'll buy something and you'll find someone's name in it. Yeah, right. Like, you know, written and you'll find someone's name in it. Yeah, right. Like, you know, written on the tag in case they ever lost it. And that's quite, you're like, this rugby league jersey,

because that's my main experience of buying things at the op shop, is rugby league jersey or an old $20 brown suit. Yeah. But, you know, it'd be like Ethan written in it. You'd be like, oh, Ethan, you used to love the Canberra Raiders. This must have been his pride and joy. I wonder what he's doing now. Sure.

And then you go, everything here's got a story. But I'd love to know, and it doesn't have to be clothes. It could be you've got a car and you found something in it or your house came with something. Yeah, right. Remember that flat when I first moved to Auckland and we found all that porn on VHS tape and a black sack in the ceiling?

Yeah. Don't say we. You told me about it. I found it. I found it. You can drag me into your illicit activities. Even in 2004, you were beyond VHS.

I told you I didn't have a VHS. He's like, give me porn on Laserdisc. DVD. Or DVD. CDR. And I'll see what I can do. And then we'll talk.

Yeah. All right, well, Gia, give us a call. 0800 DARS at M. You can text 9696. Whenever you purchase something and it's come with something a little bit extra, maybe it was a trade-me purchase

and they, because I had a friend that sold a GoPro but left his SD card in there. But it was just drone, like it was just beach stuff. It wasn't like any naughty stuff. But imagine that. You buy like a camera

and there's like a whole bunch of photos and videos on there. I bet people have bought phones and they've come loaded with goody goody. Talking about buying

something and getting a little extra. Maybe hidden. Somebody purchased a book from an op shop and there was marijuana in there. Oh my god.

Just six leaves. Yeah. And I've just been doing some research. Apparently, not enough sticky icky to get you high. Right. It would have been purely, maybe someone was particularly pleased with their plant. We've got a tree that is the same shaped leaf as a marijuana leaf, except it's much smaller. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Might start selling it to the local kids. You kids want to buy some Dak? You kids still calling it Dak? Yeah, wow. No one calls it Dak anymore, eh? Just check with our local stoner. I won't say who it is.

I'll just look out. One of them. Wow. Probably the one that's laughing the least, the one that's hiding behind her desk. Her, there's another clue. But no one calls it DAC anymore, just checking across the board.

People do call it DAC. I'm pleased with it. No, they don't call it DAC. Okay, mixed reviews from the producer's department as to if DAC is used anymore. Someone's just messaged in. Them and their friends call it DAC. Great. Great. So we want to know when you. Them and their friends called it Dak. Great.

Great. So we want to know when you purchased something and it came with a little something extra. Jaden, you got a car. What did it come with? Yeah, so I bought this car from a lady in Christchurch. Lovely lady and whatnot. And then basically took it to Smash and Dance

to give her a bit of a spruce up. And I went into the boat. There was this rugby bag. I was like, oh, yeah? What do we got here? And then opened up the bag and there was some adult fun toys, some whips and chains, you name it. She had it.

Wow. And did you – so obviously you've kept that, Jaden. Or did you take it back? I don't know. I messaged her and she sort of blocked me on Facebook straight away. Like, I think she might have got a bit embarrassed. Oh, no, that's... It's not like you...

She was quite a professional lady, like... Right. But that's okay. Yeah, yeah. So, did you drop them back? Yeah. Oh, okay. She didn't want anyone knowing about it or something.

Right, okay. Well, it's not like you would want to use them. It's not very hygienic, is it? Is that the smash and dash? Just give them a wash, too. I got a reserve and sold it, oh, sorry, sold it for nine bucks. Nine! Oh, my God,

like, I was like, give it back to the owner or ditch it, you know? Like, yuck, who's buying it for nine bucks? Times are tough. A bit of spray and wipe, though. Just don't say spray and it. You know, like, yuck. Who's buying it for nine bucks? Times are tough. A bit of spray and wipe, though. Just don't say spray and wipe. Fee, what did you buy with something extra? Hi, good morning.

Good morning. I didn't buy it. I was actually working for this company before, and I, you know, was doing well, and so I got given, like, a tablet by my boss, who's the owner of the company. And, you know, so I well. And so I got given like a tablet by my boss. Okay. Who's the owner of the company. And, you know, so I'm sitting at my desk and he's on the other side of my desk

and I came across naked photos of him and his wife, who is now his ex-wife. Wow. Wow. And did you tell him or did you just delete them? No, I didn't tell him. Right. But, yeah, to this day, they don't know about it.

Hopefully, they're not finding out by listening to you guys this morning. I would bring those in next time there's a pain negotiation. Yeah, I was going to say, oh, did you save them for a rainy day? Yeah. To be honest, I actually thought, well, maybe I might save it for a rainy day. To be honest, I actually thought, well, maybe I might save it for a rainy day, but I don't work there anymore and I did end up deleting it before I left.

Ah, right. Okay, nice. You're a better person than us, Bea. Thanks for your call. Nick, what did you buy with a little something extra? Some years ago, back home, my wife and I bought a digital SLR brand spanking new from the shop, so you wouldn't expect there to be anything on it.

Yeah. But when we got home, we thought it was a bit odd because it wasn't like when you open the box, it wasn't wrapped in plastic or anything. Didn't think much of it. Started taking a few photos. Then we went to review the photos, and the first photo, you know when you look at a photo or you look at something

and it doesn't quite click what it is? Like it could be a duck or a rabbit or an old woman or a young lady, like depending on which way you're looking at it. Yeah, sure. Exactly, exactly. Turns out after a couple of seconds I've looked at it and gone, damn, that is a baby crowning and a woman giving birth. That is not what I expected.

That is not what I expected. That was a plot twist. I was expecting a nude. Well, she wasn't giving birth clothed. No, it was like a full frontal close-up of this baby being born. It was like, my God. Are you sure that's just not a thing that Canon's doing now, just preloading their cameras with some natural photos?

Well, to be sure, the definition was fantastic. Yeah, right. You've got someone who knew their depth of field there. Yeah, it probably speaks volumes for the camera quality there at the lens. Thanks, you called next, some text messages. We bought a kitchen lot for our daughter to go flatting. So that was just a bunch of somebody's old kitchen stuff. And so one of the Tupperware containers that was not transparent,

there was a glass bong. Okay. Plus a little bag of weed. So I don't know if that was a little freebie or what the story is. Like a cherry on top. Special. Yeah. From farmers.

Somebody said, my grandma was the president of the local op shop growing up. So our job used to be to go through the pockets and everything. Oh, you'd find some things. Hundreds of dollars. Hundreds of dollars when we were kids. But grandma said we couldn't keep the money. What grandma doesn't know doesn't hurt grandma.

Yeah. You do that. Searching while grandma's out there. Yeah. Someone said, my mum calls a deck. That's good to know. Good on you, mum. Somebody else said, my partner bought a project car,

so a car to do up. He was pulling it to bits. He pulled the dash off and he heard something go ting, ting, ting on the floor. A snake. It was a diamond ring. Wow.

A diamond ring. So it got lost down the vent or something? Don't know. Wow. Don't know. And back in high school, bought a set of drawers from a second-hand store

and one of them wasn't shutting properly. I took the drawer out and behind it was a sustainer container full of weed. Gave the weed to my boyfriend at the time. Don't know why you still had to lie about it. We're cool, we're all right. We're cool, man. We're cool.

We're not cops. We're not cops. No, but if you say that, you can't arrest me, eh? Nah, man, I can't say I'm a cop if I'm not a cop. So do you know about weed? There's been a corporate deal done, which is bad news for Spark customers

because you were getting a wee side piece of Lightbox for free. Yeah. And so Spark has sold Lightbox to Sky. Wait a minute, were we? Well, you weren't because... But my wife's on a Spark plan. Well, that's still a year.

I mean, you've got to set it up. Was there a little bit of a... You had to get a plan with Lightbox. Not all of them have them. Okay. Hmm.

Because you probably got her a tight ass monthly plan. That's what you did Only the best for my gal She said I'll be happy with Boost Mobile I said not for my wife I won't be

I won't be Trotting around with a dame on Boost Mobile You're a high class gal I think when you met your wife You were on Boost Mobile Also don're a high-class gal. I think when you met your wife, you were on Boost Mobile. Also, don't look like you're handing out her phone and plan to her. No, I say. She's like, please, sir, can I have my phone?

And I'll say, not yet. Have you done all the domestic house chores? You are joking, for those that don't get sarcastic. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. I'm just defending her. I say, you're a lucky gal to have a phone. Most gals your age are making babies.

Keep going, Mr. Cancel. I say where's our sourdough starter, sweetheart? Everyone's got a sourdough starter. You probably do, you bloody hipster. Do you have a sourdough starter? I'm too. What are you talking about? You know I don't like carbs before 6 a.m.

After 6am. Yeah, you can have your, you can get your sourdough done in a bread maker overnight and have a little nibble on the way to work. Maybe.

Spark has sold Lightbox to Sky. Six million dollars. I remember that happened at the end of last year, didn't it? But it's now,

it's now coming to fruition. So Sky, see they have merged Lightbox and Neon but it's now start of this year yeah it's now it's now coming to fruition so Sky um see they have merged Lightbox and Neon and it will

be launched on the 7th of July Kneebox Knee Kneebox Light on Light on Light on

they're gonna have to come up with a better name Kneebox I wasn't a huge fan of either of the names Lightbox right

why it's just a I didn't really think about it Lightbox. Right. Why? That's just a, I didn't really think about it. Lightbox sounds like what they would have called a television in like the 1910s. Yeah. It's a lightbox.

And I hate what they've got down the road with one of them new lightboxes. It's just a name. Like a radio with a picker. They've both got great shows on them. So that's going to be, that's going to be quite, a powerhouse.

Yeah, quite the rival for Netflix. So Spark customers are going to be able to quite the rival for Netflix so Spark customers are going to be able to get the merged service at a discounted rate still

but it's not going to be free on your plans sorry about that and then I guess if you've already got like a Neon subscription it just carries on

does it does it because I've got a Neon subscription what if you've got a Livebox subscription does it just carry on just carries on for the same price well I mean I guess it depends if you've got a yearly subscription. What if you've got a Livebox subscription? Does it just carry on?

Just carries on. For the same price? Well, I mean, I guess it depends if you've got a yearly, if you've paid for a year already or a monthly. And are they going to change the name or is it just literally going to be Neon? Well, they've said that you're going to be able to download stuff and watch it on your phone like you can for Netflix. Right.

Which would hopefully mean they're going to get a new viewer or a new kind of app for both maybe. Right. Or whether they just reskin one of their existing. I don't know how that's going to work. Oh, it's going to get a new viewer or a new kind of app for both, maybe. Right. Or whether they just reskin one of their existing. I don't know how that's going to work. Oh, it's going to be called Neon. It's just going to be Neon. Oh, no.

I told them I didn't want their name. I think they're going to be gutted. Oh, no. Make quite a thing about not liking the name. It's like when someone breaks up with their girlfriend or boyfriend, and you're like, man, they suck. They were really bad. They were dicks. And then they're like, man, they suck. They were really bad. They were dicks.

And then they're like, oh, my God, we're back together. And you're like, come on. What do I do now? Where do we go to from here? Well, I can never, ever see you again. Keeping up to date with the news just became a little easier. As at Herald's new podcast, the front page is your short, sharp daily news podcast.

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So we just run a whole bunch of polls on our Instagram. You have your say and then we report back on the results. So today about food and nutrition, which feels a bit targeted given that we've just come out of lockdown. Yeah, I don't need your judgement poll. It's been a month since we've been out of

Level 4. Yeah. Excuse me. No. Yeah, it has been like a month. No. Wasn't it like the... What date did level four end in? 11th of May. Yeah, that sounds about right, doesn't it?

It feels confronting because you're like, when I get out of this, I'm going to like soar my... Level four lockdown will continue for one more week with it coming to an end on Monday, April 27. And then all of May... April 27? So that was of May. April 27? So that was ages ago. Where they will be in level three.

Oh, that was ages ago. Yeah, so that was like, yeah, over a month ago. Oh, my God, Eric. Yeah. Okay, so just forget about that. Are you currently on a diet was the first question. 81% of people said no. I like that.

What constitutes a diet? Like watching what you eat or no? I would have thought watching what you eat in any kind of way would constitute some sort of diet. Right. Because you'd be like, okay, well, I'm being healthy at the moment. That constitutes a diet. Yeah, but then that's technically not a diet, is it? Because you would say...

No, but if you're saying I'm being healthy at the moment, that's you're adjusting your... It's not like a... You're changing your diet. Yeah. But it's not like saying I'm doing the something diet, the Atkins or the... No, that's still a diet. Is anyone doing Atkins?

I don't know. I don't think so. I'm doing the South Beach diet. Do you remember the South Beach one? What's the South Beach? Wasn't that all... Margaritas? Like just all the fatty ones?

Oh, right. No sugars. It was like an intense Atkins, wasn't it? Right. Right. Next question. Do you consider yourself a fussy eater? 69% of people said no.

No, so 30%. I think that they're fussy. Because I don't consider myself a fussy eater. What did you reply to that one, Executive Intern Anya? The fussiest eater I know? No, I just, I said no because the things

I don't like, I really don't like. But I don't, not like stuff like across the board. You've just defied a fussy eater. I won't eat the stuff

I don't like. I would say a fussy eater can... You're a fussy eater. No, see, I don't consider myself... You just, whoever anything...

Thank you. If you can go to a restaurant and find something you'll eat straight up, then I don't think that you're a fussy eater. Yeah, should it be if you don't like more foods than you do like? If you're like, I don't like this and pick that out and I can't eat that and that's fussy. But like if you can go to a restaurant and you can order something off the menu... You blanket anything from the salty water.

Yeah, but I can eat something else from the menu as long as it's not a seafood restaurant. But see, we can't go to a seafood restaurant. Yeah, but I can eat something else from the menu, as long as it's not a seafood restaurant. But see, we can't go to a seafood restaurant. Yeah, you're fussy. When I don't go with you, you can go to a seafood restaurant. All those times I've thought, I've got to love to go to a seafood restaurant. Yeah, and Megan's ruined our plans.

I'm like, oh, God, well, we can't go to a delicious, all-you-can-eat seafood restaurant now. I need to find something you really don't like. Good luck. If you find it, please tell me. If it's food, warm will eat it. Sadly. Yeah.

Well, it's very handy actually, but yeah, I will. Like sometimes I, you know the fear factor? Yeah. When they're like, you've got to eat a balls. I just wouldn't eat breakfast. A balls. You've got to eat a balls. You've got to eat some balls.

I just wouldn't have breakfast and I'd be hungry enough to be like, just eat it. Give. A balls. You've got to eat a balls. You've got to eat some balls. I just wouldn't have breakfast, and I'd be hungry enough to be like, just eat it. Give me a balls. How many? You got any more of them balls? When the competition's over, I'm like, Joe Rogan, I said, give me some more balls. Vaughan Smith will eat balls.

Are you trying to cut back on your meat consumption? 58% said no. A balls. They're a meat. 42% said yes though. That's pretty good. That's good. Because it's good for the environment.

Yeah. How many times per week would you get takeaways? Oh, a couple. Pretty more the weekends. What about you? We've been a bit better lately. Like once. I feel like lockdown made our habits a bit better.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like we're once a week at the moment. Yeah. But I, yeah. If you get busy and you're not prepared and you've got like family and you do it. I luckily don't work nine to five. But I'd imagine if you had a dual working family that were both working nine to five, CBF when you get home. I can see how people fall into a...

I can see how mum got angry when she got home and I hadn't peeled the potatoes. Or defrosted the chicken. My job too. Yeah, mum gets home and she's like, did you get the chicken out of the freezer? And you're like, oh. Uh-oh.

I'm about to get screamed at. Go and get the washing off the line and peel the spots then. Oh, that was two to three times a week is what everyone said. Right. And do you consider yourself a healthy eater? 56% said yes. Okay. That's good.

50-50. 44% said not really. But it's like... Honest. Moderation, right? Yeah, exactly. Everything in moderation. Exactly. Including delicious balls. But it's like Honest Moderation right Yeah exactly Everything in moderation Exactly

Including delicious balls Save some of those balls for me Black Lives Matter The movement in America It's reached our shores It's very important That we're all talking about it In the same token

We are not experienced And educated enough To talk about this in the right way. So we are enlisting the help this morning of a TV commentator, a New York bestselling author. New book outstakes his high life after the American dream. Michael Denzel Smith joins us. Good morning. Good morning.

Thank you for having me. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for joining us. So, America at the moment, I mean, it's hard to tell the future, but where do you see it going? What's the results you're hoping for? Well, I mean, it's hard to know exactly where it's going, obviously. But I do think that there's something very interesting about this moment. You know, protest movements happen from time to time here in this country.

You know, these are sort of spontaneous, not necessarily organized protests that are happening now. But this one is very different, I think, from the anti-police violence protest of like five, six years ago, in that what's really coming out of this moment is a call to defund the police. Whereas five or six years ago, it was about the idea of indicting and convicting police who have been charged with killing innocent black people. This one, this time around, there's a different call. And I think it's because there's a recognition, one, of the larger system at play with regards to policing and policing's function within a society. And also just an understanding during the midst of a global pandemic about what is and is not an essential service. And so the pandemic has revealed to us what is

essential in people's lives. It's food, it's medicine, it's housing, it's education, it's art, it's journalism, it's those things. And the police have continued a pace with a level of violence that people can see now is typical of what they do. It is what they are built to do. It's what their function is. And so now out of this movement, you can see that people are saying that the action that needs to take place is to take money out of police budgets and divert those funds to things that are essential. Is the funding for the police funding the wrong things for the police? Because there's been stories about, I mean, a lot of government services are underfunded. Is the funding going towards police being misdirected?

Is it being wrongly spent and invested in the wrong areas? Well, the idea is essentially that the police budgets, because they are ballooned to, like here in New York City, we're talking about a $6 billion a year police budget. I mean, that's more than most of our other services combined. We're talking housing and we're talking about, you know, all the social services. That's more than most of our other services combined. We're talking housing and we're talking about all the social services. That's more than all of those combined.

And so what that then means is the only service that has the resources to address anyone's needs is the police. And so when you call the police, you're inviting them because they have very few tools. You're inviting a violent response. You're inviting the, because they have very few tools, you're inviting a violent response. You're inviting the potential for violence. And so what the defund the police call to action is about is saying that there are other ways of addressing so many of the problems that plague our communities that don't involve police. You can call and instead, you know, when police are dealing with someone who is having a mental breakdown, you could call in someone who's a social worker who has experience with people who have mental illnesses. You can mitigate conflict in ways that don't

involve calling in police that have guns and handcuffs. And that's basically their only set. I mean, all you can do is throw someone in jail. I mean, that doesn't solve any of the problems that police are supposedly set out to solve. So taking the money from police budgets, from police departments, and then putting those things into social services that actually help people would mean simply that, you know, we're getting away from relying on the police so often for everything. Right, so it's more of a dealing with avoiding it happening rather than the drastic response. Exactly.

Right, that makes perfect sense. Yeah, it's saying essentially the police have proven time and time again that what they do is escalate things to the point of violence when they intervene. And they don't solve the problems that we set them out to solve. I mean, the idea that police are going to arrest all the homeless people and solve the homeless problem, that's counterintuitive, right? That's not an idea that you can actually—all that does is mean you have more homeless people inside jail cells. So instead, what we're saying is take the money away from the police, reduce the police job, and then fund services that help people get home, that help people have food, and help people have clean air and education and all of those things that make for a good life instead of relying on the police on the back end to try to solve these issues. So historically, why do you think the powers that be are more in favour of keeping that funding with the police and dealing with it as you say it's

not worked? Well, I mean there are a number of reasons. One, it's just the punishment model has just caught on. It's just the idea that the way to, I mean, the police conceived of as an idea in which, you know, they prevent crime, right? But they don't prevent crime. They supposedly solve crimes on the back end. But that idea that you use police and you use violence, you use prisons as a means of deterring other people from then committing crimes, that if they see the level of violence that is enacted on someone who's guilty, then everyone else will just fall in line and follow the rules. Well, one, you're talking about like what constitutes criminality,

right? What constitutes breaking the law the police only enforce certain laws and they enforce certain laws that have been built out of a racist system that has been meant to keep black people in check you've been to keep latinx people in check you know all of the all of these different minority racial groups uh and then they also protect wealth they you can see it when they're coming into suppressed protest movements. What they do is they protect buildings. They protect people's investments, wealthy people's investments in material and capital wealth. So what that then reflects when you're talking about whether or not politicians and office holders continue to fund the police departments, it reflects the police department's political powers.

Police unions have a lot of power. It reflects who is able to fund and who is able to be heard during campaign seasons. It is not about whether or not these are the actual needs of the people. It's about whether or not, you know, the police protect the political interests of the powerful, and they do. It's not, I mean, it is the police, but it's not just about the police. I think there's problems within our communities and there's racism.

Unfortunately, we can recognise it in New Zealand. We can recognise it in lots of different countries. What can we do? You know, like what can these three white people in our studio in New Zealand, what can we do? I mean, you know, I get that question and I say it's what do you do, right? Like you host a radio show,

and then you're hosting this conversation. That is your contribution. I think people want there to be something else that's, like, bigger than... It's like, what are your talents? Where do you have the biggest impact? And everyone has to find that police within their lives, and they have to then apply the principles of anti-racism

to everything that they then do uh so if you if you are a social worker if you are a teacher if you are a writer like myself are you living out in your work the principles that you sit that you say that you stand behind uh and and you have to check in with yourself and understand like where you've been wrong. You have to do some self-interrogation. You have to know like where you've been wrong in the past. We've all been wrong. We've all done things that contributed to or kept the status quo.

And so we have to do that self-interrogation to understand, and that means like self-education as well. And then, you know, once you have a greater understanding of what you've done wrong, you know what to then do right. And I think that that means the application of that to whatever it is that you do, whatever it is that you do to serve the world, you ensure that you are always living out those principles.

Yeah. Awesome. Hey, thanks so much for your time. I could listen to you talk. Very articulate chat. It's been enlightening. And thanks so much for joining us this morning. Thank you for having me.

Awesome. Thanks, Michael. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Am I a bad person? Okay, we've received some correspondence. This is so juicy. Yeah, okay. I'm really, I don't know which way I'm going to go on this one.

Okay, well, I'll read it to you. I'm on the fence, I'm on the fence. It's not like you. I'm wanting some advice, please. This is anonymous. I've been keeping this secret for a while now, and I really don't know what to do. My boyfriend has told me that his best friend,

who we'll call Mike, has cheated on his girlfriend, who we'll call Jess, on multiple occasions. Right. They've been together six years and are about to buy a house. Recently, my boyfriend and I moved closer to Mike and Jess,

and since then, I've become really close with Jess. I see her nearly every weekend, and she is one of my closest friends I've made since moving. She sometimes gets worried about her relationship, but then says she trusts him, and she knows he would never cheat. But I secretly know that he has. Wow.

I feel horrible that I'm keeping this secret from her, and I want to tell her, but my boyfriend has told me if I say anything about this to Jess, it will ruin his relationship with Mike. If I were Jess, I would want to know, but I also don't want to ruin my boyfriend's relationship with his best friend of 20 years.

Am I a bad person if I tell Jess that her boyfriend has cheated or would I be a worse person if I didn't tell her? I really don't know what the best thing to do is. I feel guilty when I think about each option. Because you're gonna like they're about to buy a house.

Tell her. It's not once so it's not as if it was a whoopsie. He's done it multiple times. They're about to invest in a house. Like he doesn't, he doesn't, obviously doesn'tie. Yeah. He's done it multiple times. They're about to invest in a house. Like, he doesn't, he obviously doesn't value her enough. There's that meme of the little girl in the yellow raincoat

standing in front of that house that's on fire, and she's like, hmm. And that's kind of one option, and the other option is that one where Homer Simpson's going back into the bush. Yeah, that's the other option. So are you going to skulk into the bush

or are you going to set this place on fire? Set it on fire. No, but you can't not tell her because your boyfriend wants to keep his friendship. That's pretty selfish. Yeah, you've always got to side with the innocent person in these situations, I think.

Jess is getting cheated on and she's about to invest. Unless she may have withdrawn her KiwiSaver. Jess is getting cheated on and she's about to invest. Yeah. She may have withdrawn her KiwiSaver. What if she's withdrawn her KiwiSaver? Yeah, that's true. Hey, admin. Yeah, and she's not going to get that back again

because she would have already purchased a house. You can only do that once with your KiwiSaver, can't you? But there's no saying that Mike and the boyfriend wouldn't still retain their friendship somehow. Yeah, I think they'd still be friends. But that's, he's created that shitstorm. But then she's going to have to say, well, she would then turn around and say,

well, where's the evidence that he's cheated? Oh, well. You still have to tell her what you know, I think. Because you're basing your friendship now on these lies. She's literally talking to you about her relationship and her doubts and stuff. Yeah. And you're just like, huh. I'd turn it back on the boyfriend and say, well, you've got to tell your best friend to tell her.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rather than her going to the friend. Yeah. You know? So you're going to blackmail the boyfriend. Well, kind of. But then you're putting your relationship in a strenuous position, aren't you? But then she'll find out that you knew and you'll be in trouble anyway.

What a dilemma, right? Like, what did she do? Set up a new Gmail account. What's it called? Wink, wink, nudge, nudge at gmail.com. Cat Among the Pigeons. That one will be taken. Cat Among the Pigeons 4278.

Yeah. And email them. Yep. Do you have an email? You know, you make a new friend these days. You don't always grab their email, do you? Okay, get a number. You might have sent them an itinerary for a trip you've had.

Get a burner phone. A burner phone? Get a burner phone. Okay. And send them some dates, some times. Yep. Have them with some evidence. Yep.

Just enough to get them investigating. And then chuck the phone away and just deny all knowledge? I don't think you can chuck it away. I think you've got to snap it in half, according to the movies. Otherwise the feds will track you. And then chuck it in the bin. Right. Or microwave it.

Microwave it. Snap it in half and then microwave it. Small price to pay for anonymity, Megan. All right. Well, this is where we open up the phone lines and the text 0800DARLENSATM. You can text 9696. Is she a bad person?

Should she tell her friend that her boyfriend is cheating on her? Yeah, and has done multiple times. Just before they buy a house. Am I a bad person? Okay, so a quick recap. This is what a hard position. My boyfriend has told me that his best friend, Mike, it's not his name, we're making up Mike,

and he's cheated on his girlfriend, Jess, on multiple occasions. They've been together six years. They're about to buy a house. Now, they have moved closer and the person writing this email has become very good friends with Jess. She's confided in her a couple of times being like, I don't know about my relationship.

But she doesn't know whether she can tell her that her boyfriend has cheated on her multiple times. She doesn't want to ruin her relationship with Mike and her boyfriend. Is now a good time to suggest a prenup? But if they've already been together for two years and living together. De facto. And they're not getting married,

they're buying a house. Yeah, true. Wow. Sticky. Okay, so is she a bad person? Michaela, what do you think? I think she should definitely tell her friends that you know, that her boyfriend's cheating on her. Like, definitely.

Yeah, but how, I mean, it's one thing for us to say this, but could you actually do that if that was your friend? Well, well, here's the thing, right? Like, do you want to be with a boyfriend who thinks it's okay for their friend to cheat on their partner.

Because then that means if, like, the tables were turned, potentially your partner thinks it's okay to cheat. And so, you know, I would confront my partner and be like, okay, so you think it's okay that your friend is cheating on his partner? Like, that's not okay. You're right, though, because, like, they'll turn around and be like, no, I don't condone it. But by being silent,

then it kind of seems like they are. Exactly. Your silence is doing nothing. Yeah. Yeah, wow. Okay, great point, Michaela. Thank you. Angela, what do you think?

Is she a bad person? No, I don't think she's a bad person. I think she's just stuck, like, in a rock and a hard place kind of thing, you know? Yeah. So what do you think she should do? Possibly bring in a third party so it keeps her and her boyfriend completely separate and then maybe time it, you know,

like secret squirrel kind of thing and time it so that when the boyfriend's there with someone else, the girlfriend turns up and sees them. You need a whole sting operation. Oh, yeah. And that's the thing. If he's only cheated a couple of times, you don't know when he's going to

do it next. Yeah. But you're right, you maybe get a whole police sting operation. But it means that it keeps her separate and then, you know, neither of them will have to worry about the fact that their friendship

will be stuck. Yeah, well maybe the burn a phone and the fake email. Your idea of one is a great idea. Somebody said if you're going to put a case forward, you've got to have some rock solid proof. Because they were in this situation and they told the girl they chose to ignore the girl that was being cheated on,

ignored it, stayed with the boyfriend two years and made this person out to be a trouble causer, a shit stirrer. Two years later, she actually found out it was all legit. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. So make sure it's not circumstantial evidence. That's always the stuff that's dismissible in court.

That's right. Like, could you get a conviction with this evidence? Yeah. Otherwise, you have to throw out the case. Are you going to be able to convince 12 of your peers? Jeff, what do you think? Is she a bad person? Oh, I wouldn't say she's a bad person, mate,

but I think that sometimes you've just got to let sleeping dogs lie. So, what, mind your own business? Yeah. NYOB? Yeah, keep your mind on yourself, you know. You don't want to, you know, cause a bit of a ripple and then, you know, how it's going to affect anybody further down the line. But then what would you do if you found out that your partner was cheating on you

and your friend knew? You'd obviously be a bit upset at your mate, but... And what if you'd sit down with your mate and had this conversation and be like, I think she's cheating on me, and still they didn't say anything? Yeah. Geoff, what if it was your mum? What? What if it was his mum? His mum's cheating on him. No, what if it was your mum? What? What if it was his mum?

His mum's cheating on him. No, what if his mum was getting cheated on? Yeah, you'd want to know, wouldn't you? You'd want to tell your mum. Yeah. When you're struggling in a situation, you make it like it was the closest person to you. Like, what if it was your sister? Steph, you think she should tell her boyfriend?

Steph? Oh, sorry, hi. Hello, Steph. Good morning. You think she should tell her boyfriend? Steph? Oh, sorry, hi. Hello, Steph. Good morning. You think she should tell her boyfriend? I think that the person that wrote the email should confront the guy that's cheating and say he has to come clean and tell his girlfriend. Yes, and then...

Because I've had this happen to a friend of mine in the past, and if it was you, the girl, telling the girlfriend, it sounds way worse when you're receiving it. So that's what I would do and say, look girl, telling the girlfriend, it sounds way worse when you're receiving it. So that's what I would do and say, look, give the cheating boyfriend, go to him and say, look, you have to tell her and come clean and give him a window of opportunity

so he can actually come. Because obviously either he doesn't want to be with her or there's something wrong in the relationship where he's not feeling, I don't know, not feeling the connection or something's going on. So give him a chance to come clean and if he doesn't, if he's too gutless to do that,

then be the one. Because if it was me, if it was anyone that I knew that was getting cheated on, you'd want to know because why would you want to spend money with this person who doesn't want to be committed to the relationship? Speak the truth, Steph. Yeah, true. Yeah, you can't argue with that, can you? All right, hey, thanks, you're cool, Steph.

Someone said, wait till they buy the house, tell her he's cheating, then whip in and pick up the house cheap. Was that Fletch? It's a great idea, though. Fletch and or any real estate agent that listens to the show. Except they wouldn't want you to get it cheap

because then they wouldn't get their cut on their agency fees. They wouldn't want a private sale. They'd tell you that they'll get you a better price or something. So we asked on Instagram, is she a bad person? Should she stay out of it or tell her? 81% of people say tell her. Oh, thank God.

Good. That is an overwhelming response. Like that's as overwhelming as it gets for am I a bad person. Yeah. So, can you email back, Megan? Okay. And say, update us, because we're going to need to know. Good luck.

Do we know, what was the other one? Oh, no, we did get an update from that. One, when you were away, and then we talked about it. What was that? Do you remember? No. I can't remember. Ha, ha.

This is what it's like being me. It was very in-depth and we did get an update. Yeah. Oh, yeah, we had the update when I was back. No, it was the lockdown relationship. That's right. Remember? Yeah.

He was going to. He was not defining it and then she was like, fine, I'm moving out. That's right. And then called his bluff and he was like, right, we're boyfriend and girlfriend. We got an update and it was happily ever after. Yeah. Oh, but maybe we should get an update and see if they're still okay. Yeah, okay.

Another update. Oh, update on that one. An update on the update. And an update on this one. We'll get an update and it was happily ever after. Oh, but maybe we should get an update and see if they're still okay. Yeah, okay. Another update. Oh, update on that one. And an update on this one. We'll get an update on the update. And an update update. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Fact of the day, day, you'll see two glasses. Wine glasses.

Oh, careful. Big glass. I know. So, I'm just waiting on another part of my scientific experiment. Water? Yeah. Yeah. Are you doing it?

The jugs have disappeared. Why have the jugs disappeared? What jug? It was jugs out here. Right. You mean the water jugs? Jugs, crafts. Sarah Akorzy is, you need a full name, Sarah Patricia Akorzy.

Joanne or Sarah PJ Akorzy is currently getting me two jugs of water. One very hot and one very cold. Very cold. Okay. That is correct. Right. Now, you've known about this fact of the day. Nope.

No, you know when you said fact of the day, Zixi's like, sure is. No, I had one. Oh, right. But I just thought we didn't need the bad news. Okay, right. It was like bad stuff. Okay, so you've found an uplifting fact of the day? This isn't uplifting.

Okay. But it is interesting. Okay, right. Now, we're just waiting on those. I swiped Sarah and she doesn't have a swipe card today. Can you not start explaining and then do the scientific part afterwards? Okay, I can do that. Okay, now the theory, here it comes.

Here comes the jugs. Gracias, senorita. The fact of the day, the theory is that humans can hear the difference between hot and cold water being poured. Oh, I like this. Okay. Really? Of being poured.

This is because the viscosity of the water will go down as the temperature increases. Okay. The viscosity will go down as the temperature increases. Okay. The viscosity will go down as the temperature increases. So Megan, turn around. Okay, so the viscosity. No, you might not be able to tell the difference. I can close my eyes too.

Like, which one's hot, which one's cold. Yeah. But you should be able to hear a difference between the hot and the cold. So wait, you said the viscosity will go down the hotter it is. As the temperature increases. Right. So if something's got a low viscosity, does that mean it's like thicker more? Oh, I don't know.

I'd say it's less thicker if it's lower, wouldn't it be? It's a gooier. Yeah, it's more gooier. Or do you think high viscosity means gooier? It's the state of being thick and sticky. So is that high viscosity? How viscosity? Cooling the fluid raises its viscosity. So do that high viscosity? How viscosity? Cooling the fluid

raises its viscosity. So do you want Megan to... Wait, it says here cooling the fluid raises the viscosity. Have you got it round the right way? The viscosity will go down

as the temperature increases. No, I see temperature increases. Viscosity goes down. Okay, okay, okay. So it's thicker if it's cooler. I guess I'm going to pour. I've got two glasses.

I'll tell you if it's hot and cold. Okay. I've got two glasses. I'll tell you if it's hot and cold. Okay. That's cold. Yeah! But you didn't use the same size glasses. I know. When I grab these, can I have two glasses, please? Do I get two glasses?

From out there. Gerard, you've got to do it right. It's like a scientific experiment. All your parameters have to be equal. I know. I really myth busted this one, didn't I? You did. But you were correct.

Yeah. But you could hear the difference, right? Yeah, you totally could. And I don't think it was too much on the glass. I think it was. The hot water sounded hot. The hot water sounded higher. I think the cold water had a sort of a crystal ring to it,

but that could have been the glass. Okay, here we go. Executive intern Anya on the case with two exact size glasses. Wine glasses. When you poured it, there's lipstick on there. Oh, yeah, there's lipstick on that. Where's that? From around my coast.

So when you pour the cold one, it sounds thicker. Okay. That should be the theory, right? Let's do it again. Everybody close their eyes. No, no, no, no, no, no. They can't see it. They don't have to close their eyes.

Eyes open. Don't crash. No, I'm closing my eyes. Okay, you close your eyes because you can't see it. All right. Okay. Jesus. Hold on.

Here we go. Oh, Jesus. The microphone's not pointed right at it, is it? Christ alive. And you spun it. I know, I'm going to empty this glass. I'm drinking it. He's drinking it, yeah.

Okay. Here we go. Yeah. Okay. That's the hot. Yeah, correct. Oh, you knew it. You can hear the difference. You can hear the difference, right? Wow, that was fun. So what's the fact. Yeah, correct. Oh, you knew it. You can hear the difference.

You can hear the difference, right? Wow, that was fun. So what's the fact of the day? Humans can hear the difference between hot and cold water being poured because of the viscosity of the water going down as the temperature increases. Wow, that was learning. That's cool, man. Science.

Science. Bitch. Science, bitch. I think that's exactly What they said in school Right That's what the teacher said What do you mean Imagine that ended

Like In science class The teacher Dropped the Marker And he's like Boom Science bitch

Imagine if it was a beaker Of sulfuric acid And it goes And then he just appears And you just hear Science bitch From somewhere Because he's gone.

That would have had me paying higher attention. So today's fact of the day is you can hear the difference between hot and cold water being poured. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- Hot chat. Yeah, it's pretty steamy stuff. We'll go at the Smith House. So, Megan, last night, speaking of steamy stuff, not in the Smith House, at the Papadopoulos residence, Megan did something that Mr Toyboy did not like. I got told off, in fact.

He was like, can you please stop? Just stop. Do you please stop? Just stop. Do you like that? Okay. Fair enough. You're making it all sexy and people think they're going to hear something juicy. It's quite the opposite. It's quite the opposite.

What did he tell you off for? I commented on stuff twice. Megan. Twice. What have we told you? How do you introduce yourself to the group? My name's Megan Pappas. Hi, Megan.

Hi, Megan. I'm a stuff commenter. What's the rule? Never read the comments. It's been five days since my last stuff comment. I've only done it once before and I can't remember. Oh, that was about when Jacinda was pregnant and I got really riled up then too. Oh, yeah. So, no, but I saw this and I was like, okay got really riled up then too so no but I

I saw this and I was like okay I'm gonna go into the comments I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it what was the article? It's like jumping into a cold pool full of piranhas good lord so the article was about someone selling gollywog dolls

they are advertising that they have these for sale. Right. I didn't think... I thought by... No, we didn't. No, we didn't. Okay, right.

Because in lockdown, we talked about how on the bear, going on a bear hunt, I had a gollywog in my neighbourhood, you had one in your neighbourhood in the window.

And I was like, woo, and then a lady was waiting out there and she pounced on me about my woo to gollywogs. Yeah.

So, I went into the comments and I honestly thought I was going to be met with a lot of people trying to educate this person. But it was,

I mean, it was a mixed bag. It was definitely a mixed bag. But there was so many people defending what is to them just a doll. Right. So, were so many people defending what is, to them, just a doll.

Right. So they really wanted, they were like, it's just a fabric doll. If a child loves the doll, the child gets taught love and hate. But it's what symbolises it as bad, isn't it? Yeah, exactly. So I decided to try and educate some people. By commenting on a stuff. Yeah, a couple of times.

Right. No, but I said to someone, I was going to say her name, but I won't. Didn't they have real Karen Tracy names? Yep. I said to this Maggie, that if it is just a fabric doll to you,

get rid of it for what it stands for to someone else. It means a lot of terrible things to another person, a real life person. So get rid of it. It is just a fabric doll to you. Why are you defending it when it's upsetting someone else so greatly? Fair call.

How did anyone comment on that? No, no one replied. Did Tracy hit back? I was really actually kind of looking for a bit of a fight with Megan. Oh, you were in a mood for it. And that's also why I got told off because... You went... I went looking for a fight.

I commented a couple of times. I got no bites. But then maybe my voice was heard because I didn't swear. I wasn't rude. I was just trying to say someone's feelings are more important than you think your right is to have a doll. Yeah. But no, Maggie didn't buy it.

But I just think, you know... How much does a gollywog go for? I don't know. I'm not interested in buying, but I was just thinking, like, what do people... Buy them to get them off the market. Yeah. But then you're giving that person money. Yeah, you are. Yeah. That's the thing. We all say don't comment on stuff, but

we get stuck in this bubble, and I know that a lot of people listening to the show would understand why these dolls are bad and they represent terrible things, but then we've got to get out of our bubbles a little bit sometimes and try and talk to people who don't maybe understand. Right?

Or shall I just stay off stuff? Comments. Stay off the comments. I'm going to need your 90 day chip back. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast. I'm going to need your 90-day chip back. Permission has been granted to talk about this subject by Fletch, who may be more personally affected than Megan and I in this situation. That's not something I faced. But there I will say the words, and I'm sorry,

these are your trigger words, Milky Bar Kid. Yeah. Here we go. This is my ticket out. This is my ticket out. This is your ticket to the big leagues. Yeah. Wow.

Is it or is it going to be heartbreak again? Well, I've got no hair now. I've got no blonde hair anymore. I'm not really a kid either. Well, that part's fine. But before we get to that, let's delve back into the 1980s where a young Carl Fletcher. Would have been the 80s, yeah.

Late 80s. It's not the 90s? High school. This one. So the Milky Bar, the Nestle Milky Bar was looking for a representative to play the Milky Bar kid. Now, there had been English Milky Bar kids, there had been American Milky Bar kids,

and we'd just taken them for the advertising. But they wanted to give it a New Zealand flavour, so they asked auditions, didn't they? Well, they said to mums and dads, send in photos of your kids with the blonde hair. And that was me and my brother, but he was never going to be the Milky Bar kid. And mum sent him away. So you and your brother, as you said, who never stood a chance of being the Milky Bar kid,

who probably actually had about as much chance as you of being the Milky Bar kid because you weren't either, then received a rejection letter? And a free Milky Bar. So that did rejection letter. And a free milky bar. So that did, that numbed the pain of rejection. Because I remember just instantly forgetting that I'd missed out on the opportunity of a lifetime. And, you know, a ticket out of this life of New Plymouth. I could have been, you know, started.

Hollywood. Here we go, Hollywood. Free milky bars for life. And, yeah, that was all just forgotten. You would have been there waiting for Taika Waititi to roll into town to cast you in one of his movies. But it never happened. Never happened because I

never got the chance. And then they cast someone else and I was like I could have done a better job. Nah the kid they cast looked heaps like the Milky Bar Kid. Well they were the Milky Bar Kid. It's probably because I didn't have any horse experience actually. Yeah that was it. Milky Bar Kid. It's probably because I didn't have any horse experience, actually. Yeah, that was it.

That was it. Did they ask? I don't know if mum put that on the CV. The Milky Bars are on me. Not good enough. Me? The Milky Bars are on me. Yeah.

It sounded too smug. You're supposed to be. Well, they are on me. Everyone knows the tone. You wouldn't have a Milky Bar without me. The Milky Bars are on me. This is the problem. I think overall tone of it was the problem.

I would have shot you from my horse. Because it's the Wild West. Your mum would have sent in a VHS recording of you acting and it would have been like, okay, now say the line. You'd be like, I don't want to share my Milky Bars. And then you would never have got it. Well, they're looking for a Milky Bar kid. Yeah.

Except this time they're looking for a Milky Bar kidult. Cute. So it's an adult. They're looking for the grown-up Milky Bar kid. Oh, my God. This could be you, Fletch. Has he got type 2 diabetes and he can't get on the horse? No, because he was sharing his Milky Bars.

So all of his friends have got type 2 diabetes and can't get on their horses. Yeah, right. Also, we keep saying him, but it can be a Yeah, right. And he's like, ha-ha. We keep saying him, but it can be a girl, right? We had a girl Milky Bar Kid. We did a few years ago. There was a recast of the Milky Bar Kid in New Zealand. Right.

And they went Milky Bar Girl. Okay, great. Under Milky Bar Kid. But Milky Bar Whirl is the brand. They're going to launch. This is what they're looking for. Right. To do the marketing for this new one.

So have I got any chance? Have you got to have blonde hair? No. Do you have to have any hair? Do you have to have horse experience? Because I still don't have any horse experience. You don't have any horse experience? That could count against you.

Okay. Do you have to have a good voice? Not only featuring it, again, another negative, you're not only featuring the ad, but you'll also be included in taste testing responsibilities. Oh, yum.

And feature in upcoming marketing campaigns. And a custom-made outfit will be created for the Milky Bar Cadult. And you'll receive a supply of the whirl. Now, they haven't said a lifetime supply of the whirl there, but I noticed because, you know, who judges that? This pretty much is your personal life. Eating white chocolate and wearing cowboy outfits. Yeah. You know, who judges that? This pretty much is your personal life, eating white chocolate and wearing cowboy outfits. Yeah.

When do I wear cowboy outfits? And doing lots of riding, but mysteriously having no horse experience. You mean my bicycle rides, right? Right. That's what I meant. Of course. Of course.

You went on getting a milky bar. You've always been a big fan of white chocolate, haven't you? Oh, look. Let's tap out. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. If you enjoyed this podcast, why not give ZM's Bree and Clint a listen too?

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