ZM's Fletch, Vaughan & Hayley - Fletch, Vaughan & Megan Podcast - 3rd March 2021

Episode Date: March 2, 2021

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Hello, welcome to the Fletch, Warren and Megan with Hayley Sproul podcast. Thanks to McCafe by 5 McCafe Coffees. Get one free on the Macca's app. Right. Put up my auxiliary cord. Okay, go for it. The whisper in the morning. This isn't even, this is Lucille Stone, this isn't Celine.

She's doing a great Celine, isn't she? Yeah, she's got the hair. Why were we talking about this song, The Power of Love? This song just popped into my head, because I'm your lady. Oh, yeah, right. Brackets, Power of Love, close brackets. Can you put Celine on? Do you want the Celine version?

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Oh, Celine's gone down. Yeah, she went down. Why? Okay, right. What did I just pop into my head? I just want that juicy pickup.

Yeah, just fast forward to get... Yeah, here we go, here we go. I don't know. It just popped into my head. I just want that. I want that juicy pickup. Yeah, just fast forward to get. Yeah, here we go. Here we go. She loves a pop. That was good. It was good. You do a good Celine. Yeah, thank you.

Ready to do that. Yeah. Because I'm your lady. Oh, wow. Port, I did not know you were going to actually hit that note. Keep going. Keep going. Hit this next note.

Whenever you reach for me. He's not actually hitting the note, though, is he? He is. Really? I don't know that I care. Fractionally flat. That's a bit. Wow.

Tad flat. Did you have anything to talk about in the podcast? That's a great song. I do actually have something to talk about. Did you just pop a roid out? Is that what happens? Because my voice will do that every now and then. It takes a good half an hour to get back.

When I scream for dramatic. What happened is you're trying to match the vocal quality of Celine Dion with zero warm-up. Why couldn't I do it? I'm a loser. I'll never make it. And you're also a man. I am trying to clear up some space on my computer. I need to install Big Sur.

And I know Big Sur's been out for a while, their operating system, Big Sur. You are well behind. I did that last year. I know. What's the latest one to install? Big Sur. About this Mac. Big Sur. Big Sur? You are well behind. I did that last year. I know. What's the latest one to install? Big Sur. About this Mac. Big Sur. Big Sur. Have I got Big Sur? 11.0.1.

It can't be installed because they've done the space captain. I've got High Sierra. No, these ones you don't put Big Sur on. They can't deal with it. Oh, yeah, you can't if it's... Not an old MacBook. Huh. Well, I need a new MacBook then. Don't just don't install. Don't. Not an old MacBook. Huh? Well, I need a new MacBook then. It's a second old.

Don't install. Don't install? Don't install. Oh, I guess just skip it. I think when they first came out, they were bricking a few old. Oh, really? I mean, they're pretty fine now. Ah, get rid of Big Sur.

When I got, because this is early 2015, it's telling me. I got it in the end of 2016. Big Sur stuffed my laptop up a bit. All my programs didn't work and it took a bit of adjusting. How do I big bin this massive, massive 13 gigabyte file I've downloaded on the work Wi-Fi then?

Chuck it in your trash. Recent. And then open your bin and then empty the bin. I'm going to empty my bin. This is like having to explain tech over the Zoom to your mum. I know, I'm about to punch you, honestly.

I can't find it. I don't want it to look like that. I want it to be in a list. I want it to be in a list. We'll leave you with the podcast and Vaughn with his technical dramas. Found it, found it. Oh, I think we should go out with the good bit. Yeah, come on.

Make the good bit. Everyone needs to hit the note. Here we go, here we go, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. And you are my friend Whenever you reach for me It's beautiful. I do all that I can

We're having fun Doesn't sound as good without the backing track, does it? Celine was doing so much of the heavy lifting there. When you take Celine away from the equation, she really, really, she really was was she was like the high tensile steel cable and i was just a little bit of cotton being like oh help you are a little bit of cotton that is that should be on your tombstone yeah born smith a little bit of cotton on a high tensile Made sense of our wire. Good morning. Welcome to the show.

Fletch, Fauna, Megan with Hayley Sproul. We all have clean laptops. Yeah, this is honestly, mine looks so great. This is an old laptop and I have never cleaned it properly. I know. Did you see how yuck the wipes were? Hayley wouldn't show me her wipe. She wouldn't show me the wipe. I felt like a dog who had done a little poo and I felt

embarrassed and full of shame. Couldn't look me in the eye. My screen's streaky though. I feel like the wipes we used, which were a general antibacterial you know, cleaning wipe. Didn't have a good screen liquid involved. Well, I tell you what, clean laptops. It have a good screen liquid involved. Well, I tell you what, clean laptops.

It's a good show ahead. Yeah. Good show ahead. It's all looking up. Honestly, I can't believe I've never thought about cleaning my laptop before. Did you give a good run between the keys? Did I what? Oh, yeah, good, good, good, good.

I got into that little grate at the back, you know, behind there. In the fold, in the hinge? Yeah, man, I was into that little grate at the back, you know, behind there. In the fold, in the hinge? Yeah, man, I was rolling that thing up to make it tight. You didn't get in there? I've got a clean gap. No, I've got a clean gap. You've got a clean gap. I've got a clean gap.

What is that? Is that a sort of an air intake, is it? I think it's where the fan goes, yeah. Well, I mean, no wonder my computer's been heating up. It's been so full of junk and food. It's been unable to get a full breath. Yeah. It's been tough. get a full breath. Yeah. It's been tough.

The top six is coming up. Yes, space hotels. Some hotels on Earth aren't even that great. I tell you where we should start putting hotels. In space. Yeah. And this isn't like one of those, this will be around by 2050.

This is like in the near-ish future. What did they say, 2027 or something? Yeah, they'll be able to have space hotels. Wait, they're floating in space or like on Mars? Yeah, no, yeah, floating in like

the upper atmosphere. Yeah, it looked like a big gum, you know, like the London Eye, a big Ferris wheel. That's kind of what they look like. And is that so it can spin

and you can have some sense of gravity because, you know, in sci-fi movies there's always a bit on the outside of the rocket that's going nearly the speed of light that's

spinning to keep everybody stuck to the ground so there's some gravity. Yeah. Oh I can't. Space freaks me out. Yeah I know. It's too big. Too much. Hotels here don't even float yet and we're thinking about just trying some in space. Yeah. But do it. And those hotels at sea

eh I don't trust those. No way. Well, yeah, because they could float away, couldn't they? Yeah, break their moorings and away they go. But the top six features of the space hotel is the top six. All right, it's coming up next on the show. When the Prime Minister made her announcement at nine at the weekend, we used a lot of internet.

So much internet. Fletchvorna Megan, the podcast. ZM. Well, when the Prime Minister and Ashley Bloomfield announced on Saturday night at 9 o'clock that we would be heading into lockdown 4.0, there was a huge dip in internet traffic because

everybody, by the looks of it, turned on the TV. Wow. You could stream it. I wonder if I had wonder if I would have known. Somebody messaged me, a journo messaged me saying there's going to be an update at nine. Otherwise, I don't know if I would have known. You informed me.

Unless you have news, because I've turned off all the news alerts on my phone. Me too, it was grim shit. Every time I was like, you'd be like, not again. Oh, I know. You'd be sitting there trying to go about your afternoon and then thousands dying. A lot of people were out already, you know, celebrating and partying on Saturday.

I was talking to someone who was at a wedding. Oh, wow. On Saturday night. There was a wedding next door to our place. Yes. And I was hosting a wedding. And it was weird at that time. The music went down a little bit, but not much.

And then they continued on. Yeah. Well, you don't spend a lot of your day on the phone at a wedding. So Chorus, who operate the broadband networks, they released a graph. And basically at 9 o'clock, the graph goes way down. And then afterwards, after the press release, there was an increase in traffic, which was a record. I would have thought it would have stayed about the same because everybody who was on their phone could have watched a live stream of the press release, the press conference. Yeah, but I guess they were just mostly on TV.

So the data you surged to 20 petabytes, a new record for this year. How big is that? How much is that? A petabyte is... One million megabytes. That's 1,000 gigabytes. I googled how big is a petabyte to give you a non-byte

comparison because this could mean nothing to you. A single petabyte, so you said how many? 20. Yes. Is that what I went to? Now I need a times 20. This is a bit of maths. A bit of maths on the on. Now I need a times 20. This is a bit of maths. A bit of maths on the fly.

You would need, oh, Jesus, I don't even know how to work that out. No, that's too hard to work out. Over a billion. Over a billion floppy disks to store a petabyte. That's super hip and relevant. What about like hours? How much hours of streaming? Okay, so the movie Avatar. Yeah.

You know the blue one? Yeah. The blue people with the ponytails. Aware of it. Yeah. The entire movie needed a petabyte of storage to render the graphics. So we used 20 of those. Wow.

But that's like really high quality movie in kind of. You could record on one petabyte. Yeah. 3.4 years of 24-7 full HD video recording. And that's one. Oh, wow. Okay. Jeepers.

So times that by 20, we used like well over 60 years of somebody. Someone's entire life could have been videoed in high definition. And it wouldn't have. I would not want to see that. Is the equivalent of taking 4,000 digital photos per day over your entire life and storing them. The human brain can apparently store about 2.5 petabytes of memory data. Wow.

Okay. So the record 3.03 TBPS, terabytes per second. Yeah. That's the record. That's the equivalent of 600,000 movies being streamed at once. Wow. And that's close to the maximum that Chorus can deal with. I was going to say, what is our... For our internet.

And that was the Monday of the third lockdown. So that was our little burst. Yeah. Was that that one? And the previous record was the Rugby World Cup because you remember that was only available was at Spark Sport. Spark Sport, yeah. And that was 2.6 terabytes during the Rugby World Cup.

How very New Zealand. Isn't that crazy? So we hit the internet. Yeah. Do you know what it was? It would have been online groceries, right? Just, right. Like the moment people were like, there's a lockdown.

Everyone was hitting the countdown website and they're hitting their groceries. Everyone had details of when they, you know, the details of when the police blockades were going up on the roads. Yeah, there would have been blackmarket.co.nz, which is a discount wine website. That's right. It was running very slowly for me. Yeah.

Would have been exercise equipment, I bet. The likes of Rebel Sport. Oh, yeah, true, yeah. Elite fitness equipment. It all sells out. What I said to you, A, I said, if there's a sniff of a lockdown, I'm buying a bike. And then at nine o'clock on Saturday night,

they're like, lockdown. Six o'clock tomorrow, I'm like, the nine hours that no shop is going to be open. Well, certainly not a bike shop anyway. No. Yeah, that's weird because I just went to. Well, certainly not a bike shop anyway. No. Yeah, that's weird because I just went to the bottle store. Didn't even go online.

ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. If you ever watch a history show, but like a history history show, not like 50 years ago, but like 50,000 years ago, and they're talking about human evolution and how humans moved around the world, you will have heard them say Neanderthals. So don't say Neanderthals. Don't they? They're Neanderthals.

Because I believe it's a Scandinavian word. Neanderthals. Neanderthals. Oh. So wait, we don't say Neanderthals? Well, I learned this from a show when they were like, they just called them Neanderthals the whole time. And I'm like, well, they know.

This is their area of expertise. Who am I to poo-poo the pronunciation of the... Are you sure it wasn't somebody that couldn't say the word? Like how Benedict Cumberbatch can't say penguins? Can't he? Penguins. Penguins. How does he say penguins?

Penguins. He can't say it. Penguins. Isn't there an L in penguin? I know, but he can't say it. Silly boy. Is it Neanderthal or Neanderthal? That's the Discovery

magazine ran a story on this. Neanderthal, Neanderthal. Ran out of history to talk about, so they just started talking about pronunciation. Everyone loves getting caught up on a pronunciation chat. It comes from Neander Valley in Germany, where the first recognised Neanderthal or Neanderthal fossil was found.

Right. And they apparently said doll. Right, but they found out something about Neanderthals. Thank you. Thank you for, these are my people. Yeah. Well, not really. I don't have enough of a protruding brow.

No. But anyway, they apparently could speak Like humans The humans that were around At the time So they're not like You wouldn't walk out there and be like Hey man

Like that situation But the development was similar to humans at the time So if they'd continued To be around Alongside humanity There would have been The ability to communicate with them continued to be around alongside humanity, there would have been the ability to communicate with them. Because they used one of these fossils of these Neanderthals to recreate their ears and their ear bones.

And they said going by these, they could hear sounds between four and five kilohertz, which is similar to humans. And if you evolve to be able to hear that, it's because you've evolved so you speak and you can hear what you're speaking. Right. Wow.

Which is equivalent to what homo sapiens could do at the same time around the same place. Right. So we could have communicated with each other. So it would have just been like speaking a different language. Yeah, well, they might... They wouldn't have been... And their brain may not have been able to compute a complex language.

It might have been a simpler situation. Like a... Yeah. Because that's what people think, eh? That it was just all... Basically like Nicolas Cage movies. They would have absolutely loved Nicolas Cage movies Another thing I learned about

Maybe going back a step further Apparently cavemen had better teeth Than the average human of today Oh you know why No fizzy No fizzy No fizzy drinks That's exactly right

They said no fizzy No candy from the dairy Were they brushing? Twice a day They were chewing sticks Oh right Chewing sticks and what are they eating? Meat.

Meat and raw vegetables. Yeah. No grains, no complex sugars, which is apparently what all the bacteria in your mouth absolutely thrive off. That's Pete Evans, isn't it? That's the paleo diet. Even cavemen would have taken a vaccination if they'd been offered that. I think cavemen would have hit Pete Evans over the head with a rock.

Done. Shut up, silly man. Influencers. They appear to live quite a lush life. They're getting sent all free things all the time and packages galore. Well, a UK pub, are they open at the moment? No, maybe in different areas.

Yeah, maybe for pick up pints. Oh yeah, that's coming soon, the takeaway pint. Yeah, that's coming soon to Britain. Well, there was an influencer who had set up a UK pub to see if they could get some free food. They sent a message to this place saying,

they messaged the chef of this pub's Instagram. Right. And said, hey, how you doing? Hope you're doing well. You always got to start, you know when you want something, you can't just be like, hey, I want this. You got to be like, hey, hope the family's healthy.

Like when you moved away and you rang mum and dad and mum would straight away say how much do you need? What do you want? They know. Oh no, my parents made me work for it. They made me have a conversation. They'd make me ask. Yeah, right. Yeah. So they emailed

saying, I'm reaching out to ask, well they text him saying, I'm reaching out to ask if it would be possible to have a takeaway and in exchange for this, I'll be happy to advertise you via my Instagram stories. So and then the chef was like, excuse me?

Who do you think that you are? Exchange for this alongside a swipe up link if you have a website, direct my followers to your website. Right. In the hope of it leading to an order for you guys, perhaps. Let me know. Do they name this Instagrammer?

Like, how many followers has this influencer got that they are in exchange for a meal? Because what could a meal be? Like, if it was really nice, like 25 pound? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, the most. That would be a lot, right? That would be a good meal.

Well, I don't know. I think they haven. At the most. That would be a lot, right? That would be a good meal. Well, I don't know. I think they haven't named the influencer. I think, yes, they have the four legs. Four legs? Oh, no, that's the pub. No, I don't think they've named them. No. The influencer's name is the horse and wagon.

So then they asked as well after that, as mentioned, I'll do this, but I'm happy to set up a, you know, to come back and, you know, maybe actually spend some money the later day. But, you know, looking for some food now. Just basically some free food. Yeah, and saying alongside that, could I have some food for my friends as well? Oh, I thought they were going to say, can I have some onion rings? You know, sometimes you just feel like onion rings.

Yeah. They're delicious. So then this page is like, yeah, look, you've got quite a lot of followers here. That's probably not going to work for us. And then they suggest that maybe they kind of play them for a bit. Like they keep saying. Oh, the pub plays them. Yeah, like, yeah, sure.

Like, come in. You know, why not? We can do this. Yeah, absolutely. Blah, blah, blah, blah. the pub plays them. Yeah, like, yeah, sure. Come in. You know, why not? We can do this. Yeah, absolutely. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, come on. We'll make this work. Yeah, why not?

You'll do a couple of posts. Then they say, they direct them to this place. They say, we can come here. Then they agree and they say, I'll arrive at 6.30

to pick up the food. And then they, the pub messages back saying, Oh, do you see the police station by the place? Let me know when you see it. And then the influencer texts back saying, yep, I see it. And then they message back to the influencer and go,

Magic, go in there and report yourself for crimes against the hospitality industry. Wow. Brilliant. Isn't that amazing? Everyone's just like Clap clap clap But it works I find that interesting

Because it works both ways Because sometimes Like big companies Yeah Will ask influencers To do something for nothing Yeah that's true You know

But the influencers don't And as much as people Might despise the idea You're still following them You might despise the idea That big companies Are trying to get somebody To do something for nothing when that's their income.

Yeah. But they don't out the big companies as much. But kind of rich for people to be heading up struggling hospitals. Exactly. But at the moment, the hospitality industry is absolutely on its knees. It's not the time to be asking for something for free from the hospitality industry. I remember it was level three or four last year in Auckland.

It was Mian, the place that does the amazing gelato desserts and stuff. They posted a screenshot they had of someone asking for like free pudding. I thought It's funny because you said pudding. I thought influencers get approached by the business, not the

influencer going to the business. Yeah. I think that's a sign that you're probably not an influencer if you're having to ask business. Yeah. I think that's a sign that you're probably not an influencer if you're having to ask for free stuff. What a great response, though. People online are just absolutely loving it. They're like, it's the equivalent of saying, hey, just wondering if you guys have any money left in the till

that I can have. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. From the panoramic ZM think tank, this is the Top Six. Spaceman, always wanted you to go into Spaceman. Stay at a space hotel. It's a beautiful singing. That is just gorgeous.

You could be a spaceman or a space woman or a space person or a... No, you can't be a space monk. Or a space potato head. Space. Space. Yeah, you can. You can. A space potato head.

You can be whatever you want. You can. You dream big, little potato. A new space hotel is planned. I love the outrage over the Mr. Potato Head. He needs a dick and balls. Have you ever stra over the Mr. Potato Head. He needs a dick and balls! Have you ever stripped a Mr. Potato Head?

They've got three holes and it's a plastic mound. I know. No, they've got air holes. That's two. Three on the body. Three on the body. One for the leg.

It's always a centrally pivoted leg hole. I was meaning under the clothes. I don't know. Is there any? There's just holes. Google, it's just holes. There's just holes. There's no junk.

How do you anatomically correctly assign genitals to a potato? A potato. Are they female or male? Do you know the original? The potato, the actual potato we eat. Because you know in French, the language,

they have female. Le or la. Le or la. Is it la potato? Oh, I don't know. Le potato. The original potato head just came with the arms and stuff to stick in.

You had to provide your own potato. So there's something to think about. BYO potato. BYO potato. But we're not talking about Tatatas I'm talking about a new Low Earth Orbit Space Hotel. Low Earth Orbit is

an Earth centred orbit with an altitude of 2000 or under 2000 kilometres Oh okay right Anything below 2000 kilometres is low Earth orbit. Then you go into other sorts of orbit. And to be honest, we've junked up a whole lot of that orbit. You don't want to be in your space hotel room

and Elon Musk's Starlink comes through your window. It's like a scrap metal yard up there. So the Orbital Assembly Corporation plan to build a low Earth orbit hotel, the inner spinning wheel, to create a false gravity using robots in Earth orbit. And then individual pods will be launched to attach to the outer edges of the spinning wheel. These will include things like hotel rooms, cinemas, bars, a health spa, restaurants, and also could be sold or rented by NASA to conduct low Earth orbit experiments. Right.

So there's like animations of how they think it would work, and it looks like every sci-fi film. And they've even got little escape ships for everybody in case it all goes Titanic. You can jump on this little thing and land you down on Earth.

They reckon it could be beginning to be operational in some form by 2027. All going to plan. That's like six years away. I'm not bad at math. I'm going to say that's six years away. So the top six features of the Space Hotel. Number six.

You still have to put your swipe card in the slot to make the lights work. I hate that because I always use my one card. That's how I lost my one card. I checked out and forgot about it. Yeah, because it's any old card, eh? Yeah, any card. Yeah, and sometimes you want to leave the air conditioning on.

Yeah, that's why they do it, so you don't use all their power. Well, huh. I'll teach you. I'll teach you. Earth. Earth. I'll use all your power. Number five on the list of the top six features of the Space Hotel are there's scales in the bathroom.

But, you know, you never wear yourself on holiday. But your gravity is going to be similar to what the gravity on the moon is. It's not Earth gravity, which is one-sixth the gravity of Earth. So, hello, you're on holiday and you've lost weight. Yay, I'm going to go to the space breakfast buffet and eat extra. Yeah, well, you've got to

because you've got to stay, you know, that weight, that pre-holiday weight. Morning, when you come home, you're not going to be happy. You're going to hit the ground and you're going to feel heavy too because you just spent a holiday

in one sixth gravity. Number four on the list of the top six features of the space hotel, the gym shuts at 7 o'clock at night and opens at 9 a.m. in the morning. Because, you know, you don't want to disturb the other guests. Yeah. And given that you circle the Earth every 90 minutes,

making days very, very short, you're never going to be in there long enough to get your sweat on. No. Oh, yeah. A couple of minutes and then you're out. And also, would the weights themselves be lighter? Yeah. You'd be able to lift so many more.

Yeah. You'd finally be able to, you know those really big ones? Yeah. No one lifts those. You could finally bench press those. Yeah. Gains, brah. What do you have and get gains, brah, in space?

You'd have to get Instagram posts for sure of you with the big weights. Lifting the massive ones, yeah. Ha, ha, doing the pull-ups. Yeah. I don't know, can you get gains, brah, in space? No, it'd be very hard to get gains, brah. And then how long? Those guys always come back from the space station,

like, skinny and... Yeah, right. Because I don't even know how I'd mix them in protein shake because it would just... Oh, imagine that. Yeah, the powder would go everywhere. Imagine just trying to put the powder. Yeah, there's a lot of things to think about.

No gains, brah. Number three on the list of the top six features of the Space Hotel, the pillows will still suck. Yep. Classic. Is there a pillow menu in Space? Very limited. Oh, God.

And taking your own probably costs a fortune. Number two on the list of the top six features of the Space Hotel, the minibar is hella expensive and you can't nip out to the dairy before checkout to replace the chocolates and the beers that you drank last night. Yep. Yeah. And number one on the list

of the top six features of the Space Hotel is basically a cruise ship in space. So when you catch a tummy bug, and you will, everyone does, that low gravity vomiting and diarrhea will be a true treat. Yeah.

Remember that cruise ship and everyone got like... Gastro? Yeah, gastro. COVID? Well, no. This was happier times. Everyone just had gastro and they were vomiting and... Oh, that was...

...back and everywhere. That was like a roll of the dice every time you went on a cruise ship, right? That a tummy bug was going to tear through. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that is today's top six. Fleshforn and Megan, the podcast. ZM. All top six. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast. ZM. All right.

Get ready to share, guys. Get ready to share. We're going to talk about pillows because a doctor is taken to TikTok. I love that this is now a thing. Doctors coming and doing little videos on TikTok. Stuff you didn't know. Yeah, but careful because they're not all doctors, are they? This is how I like to get my medical advice.

Yeah. TikTok. Well, this is Dr. Karan Raj. He's taken to TikTok to talk about pillows and why. What kind of doctor is he? Doctor of English or one of those doctors? I don't know. Doctor of science.

Okay. And he's talking about how often you need to change your pillow. So before we get into this, I'm going to ask you, Vaughan, how old are your pillows? I don't know. I inherited my pillow initially off Sade. She bought a new pillow, but she didn't like it. I said, I'll try that.

Waste not, want not. And I actually quite liked it. Okay. Was it too big for her? Is it memory? Because we've talked about memory foam. Memory foam. It'll be at least a couple of years old.

We go memory foam on top. We're a double pillow couple. Memory foam on top and then a slightly thinner sort of feathery one on the bottom. I have those, but I don't sleep on them. They're a double pillow couple. Memory foam on top and then a slightly thinner sort of feathery one on the bottom. I have those but I don't sleep on them. They're just decoratorial. Decorative. How thin is the feathery one? Oh, I mean I quite like a high neck

when I sleep. I used to be a high neck stiff pillow fellow. Oh really? No, I've changed. So how many of those skanky thin, thin ones That you know The pillow That you get in around

Hotels or motels And they're like An inch thin You're like Who Nobody wants this pillow What is this for? It should be illegal

Yeah So how many years Have you had that pillow? At least two Because I would say That I got a couple of Like really nice Memory foam pillows

When I bought my new bed When I bought my bed And that was like Seven years ago. Yeah. So you're at seven. You're at two. Really?

And you're still rocking the same ones. I reckon I'm about three and a half, four, because I'm the same. Like we got a new bed and we just got all new bedding. Yeah. And they're comfortable. Like I love these pillows. Okay.

If memory foam is good enough to go to space, and they're always telling you it was developed by NASA, it should be able to last 10 years. Well, this is, okay, here it is. Every one to two years, you have to change your pillows. And here is why, you filthy, disgusting pig. The average person sheds about four kgs of skin every year. Most of that...

God, can I shed it all at once and like right now? Absolutely. Shed it for the wedding. Most of that ends up in your bed or on your pillow. And that is a feast. Your little flaky skin flakes, that is a feast for microscopic dust mites. That's not what's gross.

So there's dust mites in your pillow because they're feeding on your gross dead skin a single dust mite has about 20 poos a day 20 droppings a day but their pose must be tiny but there are hundreds if thousands, of dust mites feeding on your hundreds of thousands of skin flakes and dropping each of those dust mites, 20 posies, onto your pillow a day. Oh, that's grim. Okay, I need to change my pillow. A buildup of dust mite feces,

which is what I'm going to assume you've got after seven years, can cause breathing and allergy-type symptoms. Another thing, you know when you've got after seven years, can cause breathing and allergy type symptoms. Another thing, you know when you look, when you, I don't have this, my pillows aren't this bad. We use a pillow protector. So do I. I'm not a monster.

What about a pillow case? What's a pillow protector? No, pillow, you go pillow protector, because you know when you dribble in your sleep? Yes, I'm a dribbler. Same. So much so. That catches the dribble,

so the pillow doesn't get the dribbles on it. Yeah, so your case, you wash regularly because it's manky. But the protector protects the pillow itself. But you know, like back in the day when you were like a student or perhaps you couldn't afford that kind of stuff and you would change your pillowcase and it was always embarrassing because it would be brown and yellow and big sort of seeping stains. Oh yeah, definitely just when you're a student. Not anymore. No way, definitely just when you're a student. Not anymore.

No way, man. Not this guy. Well, those yellow and brown patches are a result of sweat, oil and dribble, even wax from your ears that can be building up over months or years or in your case, seven years that can breed mold and bacteria.

Okay, when we get out of lockdown, it's new pillow time. It is new pillow time. A way to find out, if you bend it in half and it springs back open. That's the dust mite. It's been like, hey, give us some room in here. No, it needs to be, still have that boing, the boing.

If you fold it in half and it's like, to re-open. Oh, yeah. Get yourself a new pillow. I'm sure Briscoe's is having a sale. They're so expensive, pillows. I know they are. Not with a 50% off at Briscoe's, which they usually do on their pillows. Yeah, those good pillows, though.

Good pillows? We tried Bambillo. I tried a Bambillo. I didn't like the Bambillo. No. That wasn't for me. You feel one, you're like, oh, this would be a great pillow, and then you sleep on it.

It's not for you. No, it's like a plank of wood. Mm. Anyway, get new pillows. You manky people. ZM's Flet. No, it's like a plank of wood. Anyway, get new pillows. You manky people. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. ZM's $50,000 secret sound. Tell them what the secret sound is.

ZM's $50,000 secret sound. All thanks to Star. Streaming now on Disney+, including more originals like Solar Opposites. Go to Disneyplus.com to learn more. Dylan joins us. Good morning, Dylan. Good morning. How are we doing, guys?

Good, good. All right. Did you see somebody guess? I just made my first gold coin merch, so I'm doing great. That's to do with this app that I can't put down. Please pay attention to the secret. Dylan has my undivided attention. Can you earn your money?

Oh, you mean real life money, not money in this game. Can you earn your income? Now, Dylan, did you see somebody guess chatter rings yesterday? Yes, I did. Yep. Chatter rings. Do you think so? I think so, yeah.

Oh, my God. No, that's a good guess. Totally could be in the middle of the man's spin. Totally could be. Great guess. Because I saw that. I was like, chatter. Oh, that's a good guess. Totally could be in the middle of the man's spin. Totally could be. Great guess. Because I saw that. I was like, cheddar. Oh yeah, okay.

Okay. That's a great guess. We have had some silly guesses though. So no pressure. We have had a couple of very silly ones. Soundkeeper Alice joins us from her abode through the studio window. Good morning. Good morning.

All right. So what was that little giggle? I don't know. Good morning. Have you had your morning coffee? No, I'm going to have it after this. You're delirious, then. Yeah, she is.

All right, Dylan, for $20,000 cash, what is the ZM secret sound? Is it hi-hat cymbals on a drum kit clashing together? Okay, much of a drummer. Is that when the guy in the band presses that pedal and it goes... No, the... Yeah, yep, that's it. Oh, that thing. Use the foot pedal.

And they hit each other together. Yeah. See? Sorry. You don't hit it with the stick. You don't hit it with the stick. Because you can't hit it with the stick. It's when you hear it going like...

Yeah, that thing. That's it. Yeah. Oh, you can hit it with your foot And a stick Yeah, that's right It's a double whammy, that one I played drums for a few years Oh, really?

Oh, my dear But your parents loved that It's because I thought The drum tutor at Queen Margaret's Was hot So I was like, yep And then my dad bought me A drum kit and everything

And I was like, dad I'm only doing this Because I think he's hot Anyway And your dad's like Wait a minute, what? I just spent hundreds of dollars on a drum kit. But Dylan, over my couple of years of drumming,

I actually think this is a really good guess. Hi-hat cymbals on a drum kit. I can tell you the answer to that, Dylan. Nah, that's not the secret. Oh, solid no. Solid no. Dylan, good I liked your guess though, Dylan

Good guess $100 for you, Dylan No losers here Even if you don't get the secret Then you get $100 cash Thank you Well done, well done Flesh, Vaughan and Megan

The Podcast ZM Just been asked to turn on a notification For this app I'm about to talk about Don't do it That's dangerous, isn't it? Because sometimes you forget and that could just be a little reminder.

I've pressed X. Vaughn, are you at the point where you, and I want you to answer honestly. Hayley, Jane Sproul, I'll give you my honest answer. I'll look you straight in the eyes. I'm imagining this was a free app with in-app purchases. Correct. How have you made in-app purchases?

I have not yet made in-app purchases, but I have played other games where it gets to the point where you're like, okay, just hurry up and you make an in-app purchases? I have not yet made in-app purchases, but I have played other games where it gets to the point where you're like, okay, just hurry up, and you make an in-app purchase. But then here's how I justify it to myself. If you spend $6 on an in-app purchase, like over a couple of little purchases, and it gives you four hours of entertainment,

that's a pretty good rate per hour of entertainment. That's a large coffee. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying is you drink a large coffee, gone. Done, yeah. Don't get yourself a free one from the work kitchen. Well, Vaughan is addicted to another game. So my girls downloaded this game, and they're shocking at just downloading whenever there's an ad.

They're like, oh, that looks fun. And then you one-click, and then it's downloaded. Always free. And then the in-app purchases, they can't do in-app purchases without me being like, yeah, I'll do that. And I've got a thumb printer. Yeah. Otherwise you'll be that person on the news.

My kids spent $80,000. That's on you for not having some parental controls and systems on your iPad. 100%. Don't just have that easily accessible. So the latest one they downloaded and they said, can you show us how this works, is Dragon Merge. Now Dragon Merge is constantly advertised. If you play any games with ads that you have to sit through

because you're not going to pay $10 for the full version of the app, you will definitely have seen Dragon Merge. Is it drag and merge? Dragon, as inge. Okay. Is it Drag and Merge? Dragon, as in rah. Oh, because I was like, Drag and Merge. That was more of a seagull. Yeah.

Seagull Merge. But this game has been re-skinned. There's Magic Merge, Dragon Merge, like basically whatever you're into. Unicorn Merge. Right. Mythical Creatures Merge.

Yep. Like, it's re-skinned hundreds of times To appeal to anybody I'm guessing it was easy peasy How does this stupid game work? How is it You've got a home island Where you've got

Like you've got to Basically build your dragon population And unlock more and more land So you can get more and more resources It's a bit That's like an old photo It's advanced a smidge It's a little bit like

All these games Like you say There's a a smidge. It's a little bit like all these games. Like you say, there's a thousand different sort of skins on them. They're like budget Age of Empires, which I used to play on PC. God, how good was it? I used to play Age of Empires on PC. Who do you think out of all three of us would win in Age of Empires? Let's get a LAN party going, maybe. Because I knew all the cheat codes.

No cheat codes. No, I knew all the cheat codes. You're not allowed to drive Knight Rider around when you're fighting the Babylonians, all right? That's the rule. You'd be like, do you want to build a mill? You'd be like, yep, money, money, cheat, cheat, cheat. You'd be like, you've now got a dock. What boat would you like to buy?

Buy a boat? No, I'm just going to put in the Flying Dutchman cheat. Yes. Yeah. I can't relate. I don't do games on the iPhone because I get addicted, so I just don't bother. You don't have one of Candy Crush?

No. See, I never got into Candy Crush because it came about after Farmville, and Farmville was bad. Yep. Farmville was really bad for me. Oh, you spent actual money. No, I'd never spent actual money on Farmville, but I set alarms for ridiculous times of the night to wake up and harvest my blueberries so I could get another crop on

that would be ready by the time I woke up. It's just stupid. This is a good time for me to check in on Candy Crush, which I've been playing for maybe about five years at this point. I'm up to level 1,419. That's too many hours on Candy Crush. That's a lot of Candy Crush hours.

I reckon I see so many mums playing Candy Crush on planes. It's just, yeah, it's a real like... Bejeweled Blitz and Candy Crush is absolute mum fodder on a plane. It's a real time passer.'s a real like, Bejeweled Blitz and Candy Crush is absolute mum fodder on a plane. It's a real time passer. And do another lap before we land.

Yeah. I'm on a hot streak. And you got addicted to the mining game, a year or two ago. Idle Miner was really bad. But like a clever game. And you spent money on that?

I can't remember if I spent money. The one that I do remember spending money on was the Star Wars Battle 1 just because I wanted to unlock like my favourite Star Wars characters to use in the game. Oh, God. So that was a little bit of money.

But again, not like hundreds of dollars. But if you added it up. If you all added it up, then that's my entertainment budget, you know? I don't go out. I don't go out drinking. Right. I mean, you drink at home. Yeah, I drink at home.

That's a cheaper way to drink. That's a budget conscious alcoholic. I reckon the worst app I've got at the moment, well, I've got two games that I'm a bit addicted to. There's Candy Crush. But 2048, you know that one? The tiles? Yeah, but do you know the trick to that?

You just always drag down. No, no, no. I've got a very high score. Have you finished it? How many times have you finished it? The 2048 tile. Yeah. Multiple times.

You always just drag down. I'm playing for the 4096 tile at this point. Oh, okay. But the other game I just downloaded the other day because someone brought it up and I was like, what is Snake 97? So there's an app called Snake 97 and it turns your phone, whatever it is,

I've got an iPhone, into a Nokia. Like a Nokia 3310. Oh my God, and you play Snake on it. And you play Snake. Wow. So you just, it's like, oh, there you go. Ads galore. I'm not spitting that much.

Oh, yeah. You didn't unlock it right. But Snake. The one that tempts me on the ads is, in ads, is the one where you've got to, like, solve the puzzle so the guy can fix his house. No, but it's not a real game. I know, but then in the game, I've heard people say, don't download that game if you want to, like, solve the puzzle so the guy can fix his house? No, but it's not a real game. I know, but then in the game,

I've heard people say, don't download that game if you want to like solve the puzzle on how to get the green slime to go down the drain. It's not real. It's not real. That's not the game.

The butler guy. They're fixing his house and garden. Are you kidding me? It's not a real game. Because I'm always seeing that ad and I'm like, I don't want to play this game, but it is interesting.

I've tried to download it a thousand times because it gets me every time I see that I'm like, I want to help this dude out. I want to do the puzzle. I can figure it out. I've resisted. I want to get the water down the chute. And then you get it and it's like an ad every five seconds once you get the game. And it's more of like a build your city kind of a thing. Yeah, it's dumb. It's not even fixing up the house. It's a conspiracy.

Yeah. I wanted to fix the house up. We want to know what dumb app you're on That you know is dumb Like I know there's dragon games But the dragons are cute What dumb app are you addicted to We want you to open up and share this morning

Even more so if you've spent some cash on it And you're like I should not have done this And this is a judgement free space as well Like really just let us know Because there's no judgement here We won't judge you as harshly as we judge you for. I mean, you two have both just gone through the most ridiculous games.

My iPad is chocker with them because the kids use it all the time. Don't blame the kids. That's how I got into this Merge Plane. Have you guys played Merge Plane? No. I haven't played any of these Merge games. Merge Plane's really good. And Sandballs?

I showed you Sandballs. Sandballs was absolutely hard, man. Sandballs was good. Sandballs was good. 0800 DARS at M. Give us a call now. You can text in 9696.

What dumb app game are you addicted to? We're talking about dumb apps that you're addicted to and you know they're dumb and you know that you're wasting your time

but at least you're not smoking crack. So, bonus. You're not cheating on and you know that you're wasting your time, but at least you're not smoking crack. So, you know, you're not cheating on your partner, are you? Well, you might be doing both. This is, by the way, how I justified playing like hours and hours of video games early in my relationship with Sade. I was like, well, at least you know where I am. Oh, my God.

You're intolerable. By the way, that's a terrible approach for any man thinking of pulling the same. Like, would you rather be going out with a nerd or a player? A game player. Oh, no. No, a player player. I know. Like a player.

Julia, what stupid game are you addicted to? A solitaire. Oh, a closer. But I like to think it's partially educational. Because you can work out in what sequence numbers go. Yeah, something like that. Still struggling with that, eh? I can count to ten with that. You're in maths class.

What number comes after ten? You're like, J? Yeah. So, okay, out of all the games though, that's a real mum game, Julia. Yeah, it's a real mum game. Don't tell Aaron that, man. Does he love a bit of solitaire? He loves a bit of spider solitaire.

Are you a dab hand of the other solitaires, Julia? Nah, I don't even know what they mean. I attempted to play hearts one day on the computer, but no. Does your solitaire have a lot of ads in it? Because that's how they get you with the ads for the other games.

It does have a lot of ads, but I had a tip for how get you with the ads for the other games. It does have a lot of ads, but I had a tip for how to get rid of the ads if you want. Oh my God, hit us up. Well, I used to play it lots

like on the planes and stuff, and you know how you have to have aeroplane mode on so you've got no internet? The ads don't come through if you're not connected to the internet.

Oh, right. But sometimes that just locks the game. The game's like, well, I'm trying to load an ad here. I can't proceed without an ad. But also that makes you uncontactable while you're playing Solitaire for maybe hours. Yeah, there's like an emergency.

Someone's trying to call you like, we need you. Where are you? You're like, 10, 9, 8. Julia, thanks for your call. Christy, what silly game are you addicted to? Pokemon Go. Still? Still. I saw, we went for a walk yesterday. Yeah.

And we saw some people playing Pokemon Go. I was walking towards them and they were spinning their finger, throwing things. And I said to Indy, my daughter, I was like, she's playing Pokemon Go. And we walked past and had a look and yeah. Do you remember how crazy that got? That was so cool. Was that 2016? Were people getting into accidents over it? Yeah, because they were going into crazy

places to get Charizard. And then they were talking to each other and mingling in public parks for the first time ever. Yeah, yeah. It was incredible. In fact, if I could take the world back to one week, it would be the week that Pokemon Go launched. What a time. Everybody was like united. The world felt good. I never downloaded

it. Christy, thanks. You're cool. Rachel, what stupid game are you addicted to? Hello. So it is Jurassic World Alive. So it is pretty much the same concept as Pokemon Go. Right. But it's with dinosaurs. I've seen my nephews play this.

They bloody love it. And Uncle Paul, there's a Triceratops outside. And how long have you been using this game for? So I downloaded the beta version of it. So I think it might have been end of 2017. And then the official version of it came out in 2018. And you're still going. I'm still going.

Have you spent any money on it, though? Absolutely not. That is my one rule. Do not do any innate purchases. Time is money, and you're up to four years. What's your coolest dinosaur, though? Sorry? What's your coolest dinosaur?

Oh, oh, oh. Here we go, baby. Now she's frowning. So the thing about this game is you can actually, like, you can create, like, two different dinosaurs, like a hybrid. Do you get to watch them having hot dinosaur sex? Oh, my God.

Should we leave you two to it? Okay, wow. Yeah. I mean, that's probably cool if they did do that, but probably not. Okay, Rachel, we'll discuss this later. I feel like this is going to take a turn. Listen to the passion in this woman's voice.

I know, you just, like, sweat. I would put a T-Rex head on. Listen to the passion in this woman's voice. I know, you just like sweat. That'd be cool. I would put a T-Rex head on. What's that big one? Brontosaurus. Yes. Oh, yes. But still have the little arms.

Still have the little arms halfway up its long neck. I would do the Brontosaurus neck on a pterodactyl. So they're like. Oh, they're a swan. They're a swan. Now. You've basically made a swan, Hayley. Yeah, beautiful.

All right, some text messages in. Thanks for your call, Rachel. Someone said, Factorio is basically digital crack. I looked at Factorio and it looks like you've got to make the most efficient factory. That, something about that, really gets me excited.

Oh, no. It's because in my head, I believe I can be the best at whatever I put my mind to. Yeah. So I'm like, I could play that. I could be good at that. Someone said Marvel Strike Force is addicted.

Please don't tell my wife that I've spent money on it. Clash Royale. Lots of people saying Clash of the Clans. Lots of Clash of the Clans. Somebody messaged in about this game Grindr. How does that work? Now, basically, how they describe it is Grindr is a collection, much like Tinder,

a collection of some of the world's worst people all in one place. You've got to try to make them better people by putting your penis in them sometimes. Now, apparently that, like the dinosaur game we were talking about before, won't result in babies, but it can endeavour to change them into the sort of person that you could spend

the rest of your life with. And I tell you what, it's... It's fraught with controversy because they might think you've changed, you reach level two, you think they're changed. They weren't at all, because you buggered up level one. Okay.

And so you go back to the start of the game and try to pick another one. Right. Okay. Good luck with that game. I'm going to download this one. Are there rent-out purchases? There's, yes, doctor's visits. Oh, my God.

For antibiotics, which can actually add up and end up being quite expensive. Yeah, right. There's some research that's just come out suggesting that we don't end our phone calls when we want to. That both parties, mutual parties, the phone call always continues past the point where both of you want to, which sort of seems silly. There's not that one person wants the conversation to keep on going. But apparently this research that studied thousands of conversations on phones between family and friends and even between strangers. Yeah. Found that regardless of whether it was just a brief chat.

Yeah. Or even a lengthy discussion. I have those a lot with my mum. You look at the phone, you're like, we've been on the phone for two hours. Two hours? Yeah, we chat. What? We'll get into that. But I found like regardless of how long the chat was or who it was with, there's always a moment where one person is ready for the conversation to end

and then the other person is ready for the conversation to end and then the other person is ready for the conversation to end and somehow we're just not ending them and it's like a thing of politeness you know like we don't want to be like there's a hesitation towards being blunt or being open about the fact that we're going I'm done with the conversation

I received a call yesterday from an unknown well it was a no it just came up as 021 whatever and I answered it I was conversation now. I received a call yesterday from an unknown. It just came up as 021 whatever. Yeah. And I answered it. I was like, oh, because I was expecting a call. So I was like, well, this could be them. Answered it.

And they were like, is this so-and-so? Not my name. Jemima. And I just hung up. What you did? I hung up. You just hung up. I just hung up.

I always, because I'm very quick to make friends. I love to make friends of strangers. I'm always like, oh, sorry. No, I think you've got the wrong number. No, because they could be. Hell of a day. They could be saying if you're not home, so they can rob your house. I always think people have an ulterior motive.

I don't trust people. I think I'm very open to being frauded or something like that. You know what I mean? You're old age. I fell for the old, you know, you get a text that says there's a courier package waiting for you, but you have to pay the custom fee, and then they drain your bank account.

Yep. How much did they get out of you? $2.30. I sent my credit card details through, and as I was like, I was like, it's a scam. In my head. Time itself slowed down. credit card details through it, and as I was like, I was like, it's a scam. In my head. Time itself slowed down.

It all felt a bit strange. No. Yeah, so basically we're just not, we're not communicating how long we want a phone call to be. This is showing. And we're staying on the phone for too long. And there's always that moment where you feel one person perhaps going, anyway.

Yeah, like read the room. Yeah. Oh, did you know that Karen's got a dog? And you're like, that didn't happen. What kind of dog? And then you get hooked in and yeah. Yeah, I'm terrible. I'm terrible at the old, yeah.

All right. Okay. All right then. Oh, very well. Okay. All right. Chat to you soon. Okay then. Oh, very well. Okay, well, alright, chat to you soon. Okay then. Well, if this study tells us

anything, it's that the other person on the phone probably doesn't want to be talking to you either. When you answer the phone, you start with hey, my battery's not, my battery's running low. And then when you're sick of it, you just hang up. Or I've got dinner on. So this can't be long. Yes. This is what they're saying is the key

to managing expectations. Because this is my New Year's resolution every single year. I'm like, I'm going to be more unapologetic. Women do this a lot. We apologize. We're like, oh, sorry. I'm sorry. I don't mean to be rude.

I don't mean to put you out. But this is saying managing expectations is one of the key components to happiness. Often things fall apart when we haven't communicated properly our expectations. So in a phone call, you're going to say, you know, I'm hesitant. I've got to tell you, I've got 20 minutes. 20? Oh, hey, nice to talk to you. I've got a couple of minutes quick.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. How are you going? I'm good. I don't have a lot of time to chat, probably a couple of minutes. And then you've got your way of being like, hey, time's up. I've got to go. I've got to go. That's a good idea.

What about when you get called and they want to just, it might be like your bank or whatever, and they're like, this won't take long. It'll only take a couple of minutes. Hang up. And you've got to think on the spot of what you don't have a couple of minutes for. Yeah.

You're like, oh, sorry, my children are on fire. I've just got to go. Chuck them like a ridiculous excuse. Quite rude that you answered the phone while your children were on fire. Well, they weren't on fire. They were in the process of setting themselves on fire when I answered. And I only answered because I was trying to get my phone open to get the video to record

this possible engulfing. And then it rang and I accidentally answered it. I was like, I can't talk. Now they're on fire and I've missed it. But don't you think people value honesty? If someone said to you, if you rung me and then we thought we were going to have

a little gas bag and I said, I've got five minutes and then I was quite clear and I said, oh, I've got to go and I didn't make up some lie that was so obvious.

Oh, I appreciate that. You'd just be like, love that, isn't it? When people are lying to me. Hayley is such a rude bitch. Would you think that? How dare she only assign me five minutes?

I would be like, I really respect that and I wish I could be more like that. Yeah, totally. I've had something to do. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Lady Gaga, Ariana Grande, rain on me. And some rain for the country, too.

Oh, my God. Tell you what, it's needed. Jeep, it's the two of you. She's dry out there. I put some fertilizer on yesterday. I put some fertilizer on yesterday, and I tell you what, this rain is really going to green up that lawn. Great.

I felt like I was just coming to understand the station. And now I'm confused again. No one understands it. All right. Lockdown love. Let's talk about it. It's not easy. Love in a pandemic.

Well, I mean, we've been pretty lucky in New Zealand. This is our fourth lockdown for Aucklanders. I know. And it's little. It's little. And the third lockdown was three days. And when you think about, you know, places like the UK and parts of the US. They're hitting a year.

Yeah, I mean, they just haven't really had freedom at all. No, they haven't. And for some people it's meant, you know, they're single and that they're going to be single for a while now. That whole sort of dating thing is on hold. For other people, it means they've been stuck inside with their spouse. Maybe they haven't been together for that long

and now they've spent a year just staring at each other's mortality. Or like me, you know, you've been with your partner forever and you get to know them in a whole new way. So you think you actually learn anything about your partner, your fiance, during the lockdown?

Because you've been together, what, nine years at that stage? Yeah, nine years at that stage. Oh, not much. Aaron and I, we've often spent a lot of time apart. Right. Because we've had work, you know, that sort of takes us away. So it was a very condensed time. Probably the most time we've ever spent together in our entire relationship.

But no huge surprises. Right, but the big Google searches have been released, the big pandemic relationship Google searches. Indeed. Here's the sad one. How to break up with someone.

That's a Google search that has had a 9,900% increase. Oh, jeez. That's just a good question. Yeah, it is. Well, it is a good question. But how do you break up with someone that's in the same house as you? Yeah, and this relationship therapist

who is chiming in on this is saying it's a good question to Google, but you have to remember that the pressures of lockdown, they're temporary. You know, like you are going to go back to a life where maybe some of those changes in the dynamic of the going to go back to a life where maybe some of those changes in the dynamic of the relationship will go

back to sort of normal. So not to sort of like, you know, rip into a... Don't rush into it. Into a breakup. Right. There's lots of tips on how to do that, so feel free to Google that. The other thing that's been Googled a lot is texting my

ex. Good lord, that's had aled a lot is texting my ex. Good Lord. That's had a 9,700% increase in searches. That's what they said when we started going into lockdowns. It was the surge of people going back to their exes because they were like, well, I know that that was comfortable and it was familiar. Yeah, well, this is like there's two sides of it, right? One is you're in a relationship and you're locked down with them

and it's not a pretty thing and you get bored of them. So then you start to think about what used to be. Or, yeah, you're single, your dating life is now put on hold and you're thinking, well, maybe I shouldn't have ever left Zachary in the first place. Sweet Zachary. Sweet, sweet Zachary. He hated being called Zach.

Hop into my bubble, so to speak. Dating in lockdown had a 205% increase in searches. Just figuring out how it actually works, how you can actually start that. You know, some people went on like a couple of dates and then lockdown happened. So you never got to see that through. And people were doing little cute Zoom dinners and stuff together. I know, but it's not the same as a little hand under the table, a little handhold.

Handholding under the table. Because when it goes quiet and your computer is like looking for sounds, it amplifies any sounds it can find. And so you're sitting on Zoom and you're like eating and then you hear. Yeah, and then you hear. Sorry about that. It was my cat. Another one, living with new partner.

That's been a big 9,600% increase in searches. Same thing, you know, like people at the start of a relationship who didn't live together. Lockdown comes. It's like, do we do it apart or together? Choose together. Good Lord. You learn a lot about a man.

What are we all going to be like as humans in a few years? Do you think this will have any kind of effect on... Yeah, I don't of effect on how we socialise when all of this goes away? I wonder if we'll be more communicative. Maybe not so much for New Zealanders, but for people in London that have had a whole year

of not seeing their friends and not partying. Because, you know, even after our six-week break, the first time you were back in a crowd, it was weird. You'd been hearing for six weeks about crowds were bad, crowds were bad, break, the first time you were back in a crowd, there was a lot. It was weird. You'd been hearing for six weeks about crowds were bad, crowds were bad, crowds were bad, and you're back in a crowd. It was like, what? Yeah.

I found it hard to socialise after our big lockdown. I went out that first night and was like, oh, I don't know how to talk to anyone. But there could be some positives, because this last one in the list of increased Google searches during the pandemic is arguing in lockdown. And I feel like if you've been arguing for a

year, it's just the two of you and you've been at it for a year, you would have sorted out some stuff. You would have worked out maybe some better ways of arguing. Some of the things that, you know, take a therapist a lot of time to fix for you. So there you go. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast, ZM. ZM's $50,000 secret sound.

All thanks to Star streaming now on Disney+, including more originals like Solar Opposites. You can learn more at DisneyPlus.com. Joining us to play Secret Sound this morning is Greer. Good morning, Greer. Hi, how are you? Good, good. And soundkeeper Al's

is standing by. Now, we are at $20,000, the current jackpot. This is the Secret Sound. Not chatter rings and not the drum thing. That was the 7 o'clock. Not the hi-hat.

The hi-hat, not the drum. For $20,000, Greer, what is the secret sound? Oh, well, I think I've been an investigator during this and everyone thinks that I may have it, but I reckon that it's a boarding pass being scanned. You know, it goes into the scanner. A boarding pass being scanned?

Yeah. You mean like it gets boarding pass being scanned? Yeah. Do you mean like it gets fed through a machine? Yeah, like at the airport and they go and they suck it in and give it back out to make sure that you're allowed on the plane. Or like when you're in a parking building. Yeah, you mean more the parking because the boarding pass is scanned yourself. All right, semantics, semantics. Semantics.

So it's like a ticket into a machine. A ticket into a machine and it spits it out. That works. That works. If it was very amplified, perhaps if it was a close-up recording. You're not sure? I don't think Greer's right.

Oh, that's rough. Well, you don't know what the secret sound is for. No, I know I don't. Soundkeeper Owls. I do know what the answer is. Well, you made it, so I hope so. I hope you've got that handy. Greer.

Put me out of my misery. I will, I will. Yeah, that's not the secret sound. Damn. Oh, Greer. All right, back to the... Well, Greer, we right, back to the... Well, Greer, we came head to head, didn't we?

And only one of us can come out on top. Back to the... You'll always be the winner. Back to the detective agency, Greer. You have won $100, though. You guess it wrong, you get $100. You guess it right, you get the jackpot. And your next shot is coming up at 11 o'clock with Georgia.

One o'clock and then four and five. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. Am I a bad person? Jared said there was a new intro for Am I a bad person? I got really excited. That's just the same one, though, isn't it? No, it's been worked on. Oh!

Okay. I'm loving it. Am I a bad person is a segment of the show where you message us and say... What are you mouthing? I can't hear what's happening. Jared and I had a conversation. We're not ready for the new intro. It needs some work.

And you were in the room when this conversation was happening. No, I wasn't. Hayley and I were talking about chicken noises. But you were in the room. Has anyone in this family ever seen a chicken? Did you hear it? No, I missed this altogether. Because you were talking about chickens. On a plane. Why were there ever seen a chicken? Did you hear it? No, I missed this altogether. Yeah, I missed it.

We were talking about chicken sounds. On a plane. Why were there chickens on a plane? It was a Russian airline in the 1990s. People were smoking cigarettes and there were chickens. Okay. So good. Everywhere.

So, Am I a Bad Person? We say you can drop us a line anytime. Yeah. Into our Facebook inbox or Instagram or whatever. However you want to contact the show. Look, there's lots of options for contacting the show. We've even got a private bag, Hayley. Do you have a PO?

No, it's a private bag. On a post office box. We've got a bag, a private bag. Wow. This is sort of the upper crust of the post office. I have. Actually, we did a thing once. If you just write us a letter and just put those two guys on the radio,

do you remember when we did that and that got to us? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Seriously? From overseas. From, like, England, someone just put two guys on the radio in Auckland, I think. Yeah. New Zealand. And it got to us.

And it got to us. So, like, New Zealand Post, that's how amazing New Zealand Post are. I know. We've received some correspondence. Somebody needs our help. Yeah, this came via telegraph. Okay. Hey, stop, Flet Yeah, this came via telegraph. Okay. Hey, stop, Fletch, stop, Vaughn.

Hey, Fletch, Vaughn and Hayley, I need your listeners' opinion on something. Now, they've put opinions, but I think each person's only entitled to one. Okay. I was with my ex-girlfriend for two years, and when we broke up about four months ago, I was pretty heartbroken, TBH.

Okay. R.I.P. Yeah. That stands for to be honest. Yes, we know that. She's seeing someone new. Let's call him Dave. Now, they've written Dave in capital letters, so I feel that's quite aggressive.

Yeah. Dave. Dave. Let's call him Dave. From what I've heard, Dave was a drug dealer. Was, I don't know, past tense or has been involved in the drug dealing scene. Okay. And ran around with some pretty dodgy people.

So now I'm imagining Dave's a bad joker. Yep. I don't think she knows about this because this is 100% not something she'd be cool with. Should I tell her or is it none of my business? I don't want her to get hurt. Which is kind. Doesn't want Dave breaking her heart. It is, but is it any of my business, I don't want her to get hurt. Which is kind. Doesn't want Dave breaking her heart. It is, but is it any of his business?

Well, he obviously still cares for her, and even if the love isn't... What? I just snapped my pen, it's all right. Oh, weak pens. I feel like, is he still thinking, are they still friends? Because then you can kind of be a bit invested in caring for someone.

Right, but if she's, you're saying, if she's cut ties completely, but he's like, hey, to her friends, hey, what's... Right. What's Barbara up to? He wants to know if he's a bad person for not telling her or telling her. He is proposing he tells her, and does that make him a bad person? Right. To tell her about this boyfriend's past.

Because it will definitely come across as, I am trying to sabotage this because I'm still in love with you. And I've got sour, there's sour grapes here. There's sour grapes here, very sour indeed. But it could come across as caring. Could it come across as caring? I mean, I guess it depends how, I mean, she obviously broke his heart. So it sounds like she called it off.

Yeah. Yeah, she did. She did. So, and it doesn't sound amicable, does it? It doesn't at all, actually. So maybe just let it go. Who cares? Yeah, but what kind of drugs are we talking about?

I don't know. Maybe she loves a bad boy. Are we talking about a little bit of the Mary Joanna? Or are we talking about... Or is he a pharmacist? Or is he an absolute chemist? He's got a lab going. Oh, I mean he just works in a pharmacy and he deals drugs.

He literally helps people out by dealing in prescribed drugs. I love a bad boy. He said in the message, it's something she wouldn't like. So he obviously went out with her enough to know that she's maybe got some certain morals. She's a good Christian woman, perhaps. Maybe, yeah. He might have been a good boy. Maybe she wants to buck the trend, though.

And she just needs a bit of bad boy. Bad boy in her life. Do you reckon Dave has an eyebrow piercing? 100%. Yep. Yeah, yeah, Dave. And Dave doesn't muck around with small energy drinks. He only drinks them by 500%.

I imagine Dave's got a monster trucker cap, too. Yes. A monster hat. Yeah. You reckon? And his hair. Did he get free when he bought, like, so many monsters? Yep, 100%.

Yeah, his hair is like a grown out mohawk yeah he's sort of grown up a bit and Dave can tell you a bit about when he was

going to be a motocross champion but it all kind of fell to bits he nearly got into Krusty Demon oh yeah he was almost

on the Nitro Circus tour but he took a gnarly scar up his shin because he had a terrible accident and couldn't do it yeah yeah that's when he

turned to drugs oh that's how. Okay. Well, okay, so I'm kind of 50-50. I'm like, on one hand, it's none of his business. It's her choice. But on the other hand, it's like, well,

if you had this connection with someone, you probably still. Two years. That's quite a long time. Maybe you could tell them and then you're at peace because you've told them. So you're not a bad person. As long as you don't tell them and then she leaves Dirty Dave

and then you swoop on in there because that's... Oh, yeah, don't think that's going to happen. That's not the deal here. No, she got rid of you. But he doesn't say that's the thing. He wants them to break up so he can have another shot. All right, well, 0800 Giles at M. You give us a call now.

Maybe you've been in this situation as well where you've had to tell an ex something and maybe you were just a bit stuck on it. Maybe you've been in the other position where you got with this person, you didn't know what they were up to, someone told you and you were like, well, thank you for that. Or they told you and you didn't take it on board.

You were like, no, you're just trying to sabotage things. Get your sticky beak out of it. All right, 0800 Giles.m, give us a call. You can text as well, 9696. Is the person who contacted us not Dave? Dave's the bad guy. Is the person who contacted us a bad guy for contemplating telling his ex about their new partner's sketchy past?

Am I a bad person? Okay, so we received some correspondence. Yeah, this person remains anonymous. They said that their ex-girlfriend of two years broke up about four months ago. He was pretty heartbroken. She's seeing someone new. Let's call him Dave.

He's, from what I've heard, that's the other thing, from what I've heard, Dave was a drug dealer, ran around with some pretty dodgy people. Yep. I don't think she knows us as when we were together,

this is 100% something she was not cool with. Should I tell her? Is it none of my of my business am I a bad person for contemplating telling my ex about her new partner getting involved that's the big conundrum isn't it you step back you're no longer her lover and the relationship

is over do you get involved anonymous what do you think should he tell her I, do you get involved? All right, anonymous, what do you think? Should he tell her? I think he should get involved. Only just because personally, I've just been recently seeing somebody like backhanded kind of going backwards on the story. And I wish his ex-girlfriend told me what he was like.

Right, yeah. Yeah, so you're either going to get frowned upon. I mean, it depends on the person you're talking to like me. You wouldn't listen. You might think retrospectively you would, but no female that I know is going to listen to the ex-girlfriend when she comes and she says, hey. I used to go, oh, he's not a good guy.

You're like, yeah, bitch, got my face. He's my man now. Do you mean about a specific thing, though, that you wish? Yeah, I mean, if it was, like, drugs or safety or something, you'd be silly not to, but, I mean, like myself, lesson learned, but... Yeah. Tell her. Get him out.

Go and tell her. What did he do? What did he do? Come on. What did he do? Oh, he's just, I mean, a man of many women. Oh, what a piece of work. A lip that never changes their spurt.

Anonymous, thank you. So not a bad person there. Jonah, what do you think? Is he a bad person for wanting to tell his ex about this bad boy new boyfriend? Yeah, I think he's definitely a bad person. Right. And the only way he could possibly go around it in a good way is if he then told one of her friends who then told her,

so then he doesn't look like a jealous ex. Ah, yeah, okay. Oh, but a gameplay there. Yes. He's got to find the friend that would do that without saying she directly was told by him. Yeah, and they don't exist in the world of women, I'm sorry. Yeah, exactly. But that's the only way I think he could

go around it by not looking like he's jealous. Or an anonymous text from a burner number, would that work? Yeah, just buy a cheap phone, cheap SIM card and just flick it through a tip. It's getting too complicated at this point. We're buying burner phones. No, no, I love a burner phone. Any reason? Imagine though you start dating someone, you get an anonymous number

and it says the person you're dating is not a good person. I'd be like, that's hot. That's mysterious. I'm not listening to this. FBI, like, how bad are we talking? Yeah. Aaron, what do you think? Bad person or not?

Look, it comes down to motivation. Like, if your motivation is for the relationship to end because of this bad guy's past or whatnot. People do change, so it's probably best to leave it, let it pan out because it could actually affect the existing relationship that the guy that sent through the message, it could affect his relationship with that girl. Yeah.

If they are still friends and shit goes sour in that relationship, he's actually going to front the blame. Aaron, what if you go follow that, let it play out. Nick Minnett, she's on drugs. And you've just been a witness. Yeah, you could have. Aaron, thanks for your call. Ask some text messages.

And the poll results from our Instagram poll. I don't have those results, but I do have some more text messages. You find those results. I've got those results. You promised the results. You get your damned results. I've got the people's. I'm all about the people's opinions.

I don't give a damn about numbers. I'm an opinions man. I feel the key word for this entire thing is past. Past, girlfriend. Dave's past. We've all got a past. Stay out of it. That's a good point.

Yeah, the past is the past. We've all got baggage. Somebody said, yeah, go for a mutual friend. Then it comes off not so sabotage. You're not a bad person for looking out for other people, though. It's always important to look out. Someone said, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. And if you're going to try to protect someone with the best intentions,

then damn it, take that damn. We took this conundrum to Instagram, of course, with a poll. 87% of you said not a bad person for wanting to tell her about this druggy newbie. 13% bad. You know what we should have asked? Are you a female? And if somebody came to you and said, your new boyfriend is no good, would you listen?

No. I wouldn't. 100%. Hell no, I wouldn't. I would love to see that poll resolved. And people would be like, of course I would. Yeah, I would. They wouldn't.

No, no. Absolutely. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. ZM. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day. What is in your coffee? No, that was just sometimes I just feel. I'm no number.

Answer it. I can't answer it. I'll answer it. What area is it calling from? No, no, I'm scared, I'm scared. Answer it. No, I can't. I it. I'll answer it. What area is it calling from? No, no, I'm scared, I'm scared. Answer it. No, I can't. I'm working.

Is it an Auckland number? Is it a landline or a mobile? It's probably like a plumber in something boring. Oh, okay. Google it. I will. Google it. Give us the fake one, Dan.

I wanted to answer that live on air. No, that could be horribly wrong. Horribly, horribly terrible. Okay, so today's fact of the day is about the human race Okay Now, if you removed, so atoms Are you guys familiar with atoms? We're all made up of atoms

Atoms Atoms, not atoms I know a couple of atoms Atoms Okay, yep We're all made up of atoms But the thing about atoms is they're tiny But

Famously Full of empty space Yes Ernest Ernest Rutherford Lord Ernest Rutherford Yep, famous Yep as they're tiny, but... Famously....full of empty space. Yes. Ernest. Ernest Rutherford. Lord Ernest Rutherford. Yep. Famous.

Yep. Many a college named after him. From Nelson. Many a Nelson landmark named after Ernest Rutherford. He split the atom, correct. Led to nuclear power, nuclear war, all those sorts of hilarious fun things. Nuclear testing in the Pacific. Gosh, didn't that give us some wonderful mutations?

We're very proud of Ernest. Yeah, he's done some great stuff. So atoms are tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, but they're full of empty space. Today's fact of the day is if you took all of the empty space out of the atoms that make up the entire human race, all 7.5 billion of us, you removed all the space we would fit into the size of a sugar cube.

A tiny, standard, one teaspoon size sugar cube. This stuff makes me uncomfortable. I don't know why. Science. It just, you know, it just blows my mind. Yeah. You don't have to believe in science. You just, you know, it just blows my mind. Yeah. You don't have to believe in science. You know, there's an alternative path here.

Don't, though. There's too many of those. You don't want that to happen. No, we really don't. So wait, if you took all the empty space in the atoms, it would all be in a cube of sugar. We would, all of us, everything that makes up every human would fit into a cube of sugar.

That's how much empty space is in atoms. Atoms are teeny tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny. But we'd still be here though, right? Well, no, because we would cease to function correctly. Well, I don't know, maybe. I'm real confused by this, Vaughn. So atoms are super tiny and there's little things in them that make up each

atom, right? There's like a nucleus and there's electrons going around in a nucleus and that holds that atom together. But there's space in there. Think of it like our solar system. The sun is the main part.

The nucleus. Everything else is circling around it. The sun's the only thing that's holding those planets where they are. Right. Baby, if that sun, like, if someone was like, and the sun disappeared, Earth would just be like, see you later. Not me. I've got a Camando comfort jacket.

But that solar system, that solar system. Well, you might need two. You might need two. I've got my booties as well, my down booties. I hope you've got a torch too because it's going to be pretty dark. I've got a headlamp. But the solar system is so full of empty space, like the stuff that actually makes it up takes up such a tiny amount of it.

It's the same with atoms. They're being held together but are full of empty space. So remove all that empty space, all of humanity, everything that makes up human. And a sugar cube. Would fit into the size of a sugar cube. That's how much we're made up of empty space. Or 10 of mum's equals.

Yeah. Oh, bless. Equal. Life's too short for equals. Have the sugar cube. But there was like the fact of the day, what, a month ago, about all the coronavirus in the world would all fit into half a Coke can. Yeah.

What? Half of a tiny Coke can too. Yep. Yeah. Science. I'm sorry, Queen Margaret College. I wish I paid more attention. Science is cool.

They didn't teach this cool stuff in science. Maybe if you weren't too busy buying a drum kit, hitting on your music teacher. Oh, I know. You've got to give that music teacher a bit of a Facebook, see how they've aged. I can't remember his name, but he was... Well, we'll find out. He was banging, if you know, I know. You've got to give that music teacher a bit of a Facebook, see how they've aged. I can't remember his name, but he was banging, if you know what I mean.

Banging on them skins. So today's fact of the day is if you took all the empty space out of the atoms that make up humanity, the entire human race would fit into the size of a sugar cube. Fact of the day, day, day, day, day.

Yeah. ZM's Fletch, Vaughan and Megan, the podcast. So, as we just mentioned before, a lot of us coming up on a year of not leaving the country. The one good thing that came out of my six-week trip to Europe to celebrate my mother's 60th birthday is that I got credit with Air New Zealand. Right. And so now I just like, we were going to keep it, you know, and then rebook our flights a year later.

But that's not happening. Yeah. So we've just been chipping away at it. So I feel like I'm actually just getting free flights for a couple of years. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. So every time I go to Wellington or something, me and Aaron just use our credit from our big Europe flights. And you're off and you go, bonjour, bonjour.

Bonjour, even though it's my money, I'm like, free flights. Well, people have been asking to study, and this was an American study done by Expedia, which, I mean, some people still have credit tied up with them. Yeah. I booked with Star. You know, that's the Star Travel, the cheap one that we're totally under. Oh, STA.

I think we said STA. Oh, nobody said Star. Yeah, Star Travel. No, STA. You never said Star. Okay. There's no R on it. Star. No, SDA. You never said star. There's no R on it. Star.

No, it's SDA. Star. The student travel. Also, you're not a student. Why were you booking with them? I don't know. It was cheap. They were helpful until they went bust. Owing heaps of money.

Yeah, they owe me thousands. So Expedia ran the survey and they asked people what they would give up to be able to leave the country and travel. Vegetables. One in five people said they would dump their current partner to be able to travel again. That'd be cool. A quarter of people said they would give up all their savings, although they'd probably then have no money to travel.

And that's probably people who don't have a lot of savings. I'm happy to give up my savings as well. Yeah, I have $2. And yay! And that's probably people who don't have a lot of savings. I'm happy to give up my savings as well. Yeah, I have $2. And yay! 38% of people said that they would give up sexy times for a year to be able to travel. What? But then some people probably don't have a lot of sex over a year.

48% of people, and the most in this study survey Survey said They would give up their job Just to leave And go to travel Yeah I understand that one People would have opted for that Even before the pandemic Yeah I'll leave my accounting firm

To go to Please don't make me leave my job Barcelona So we've asked Here in New Zealand Would you give up sexy times Is this sexy times In all forms and varieties

We did not specify Hayley We did not Full celibacy Sexy times. Is this sexy times in all forms and varieties? We did not specify, Hayley. We did not. Full celibacy, full no, nothing. Like chastity belt. Yes. I don't know. Full Catholic. Or maybe just take it how you will.

No sin of impurity. No sexy times to be able to travel again. 41% of our listeners said they would. Losers. So 59% said no. Losers. But I'm wondering if there's a loophole. You give up the sexy times, but then you get to the destination

and then you can have sexy times. Would it be a Cinderella situation? Like if you break the rules, like you go over to Europe and then you meet a lovely- And you turn into a pumpkin. And then boof, you're back in. Also, would it be that you also lose, like you get an injection and for a year you lose your want for it?

Oh, then that would be, there's no sacrifice. Yeah, yeah, there's no sacrifice. No, you're right. No, you have to desire it. You can still desire it, but you absolutely can't function. Wow, okay. Would you do that for a whole year to be able to travel? How long's the trip?

Are we talking two weeks in Thailand? Is it all expenses paid? I'm not paying for myself and having a floppy the whole time. Yeah. Wow. Morning, everybody. Fletch, Vaughan and Megan. The podcast.

ZM. Now, this, Hayley, reminds me of the competition we run, Refund Your Date. Yeah. Where you go on a terrible date and you can register still at ZM Online and we could refund your date if it doesn't work out. And this is basically what this guy on the internet has done and divided. This fella has basically gone straight to the source for his refund. So a woman called Alexared something to the internet

And it's causing a lot of debate She received a text From a person she'd been on three Tinder dates with So they must have got on for a little bit Enough to, you know Want to see each other again And then want to see each other a third time When did they stop being Tinder dates

And just become dates That's just something that popped into my head So they met on Tinder The first one, that's a Tinder date Then the second head. So they met on Tinder, the first one, that's a Tinder date. Then the second one, it's just a date. It's still a Tinder date.

You still reckon it's in the Tinder date period? Even the third one, probably. I reckon the third one's a Tindery. It's a bit Tindery. I've never been on Tinder.

I would have thrived on there, I tell you what, but it came out after I got together with Eric. You've got yourself in a lot of trouble. You'd be cancelled. The text starts off

pretty friendly, saying, hey, Alex, hope you're doing well. I got to get all that. I got myself in a lot of trouble. You'd be cancelled. The text starts off pretty friendly. Yeah. Saying, hey, Alex, hope you're doing well. Would you mind letting me know what your Venmo is? I think that's... It's like a money transfer app. Yeah. Isn't it?

Is it instant? What's the deal? I wonder about Venmo. You always hear Americans talking about it. Share payments. Yeah. It's just an app. Just a digital wallet.

It's owned by PayPal. Yeah. Right. Then the text continues. So you get that and you're like, oh, what's happening here? It wants to be a little prezzy.

Then the text continues. The reason I ask is because since you and I won't be seeing each other anymore, I don't know how that, you know, came about. Maybe that was after the third date they went, no thanks.

Since you and I won't be seeing each other anymore, I think it's only fair to ask for equal payment from you from the dates we went on. I believe it was three separate times we went out to bars or restaurants where I paid for us both each time. Oh, no.

I'd say $35 is more than fair for your food and drinks that I got you during these dates. See, I think it's on him at the time. You either split it or if you're going to pay, you've paid. You've paid. Too late. Exactly. If in the moment you were happy to shout this person for this date,

it's done. Is it a rejection thing? He thought he was investing and he wasn't going to get the return, if you guys are reading between the lines here. And so he's like, well, I want my money back. Again, it's on him. Well, it very quickly has gone viral, this tweet.

180,000 likes instantly, but the opinion's pretty split. One person, who I'm going to suggest is maybe on team what was his name? Team Boy. Team Jacob, man. He said, I can't see myself being this petty,

but what's the issue? He's clearly broke and isn't getting any value out of you. Wow. You all want men to delete nudes after y'all break up, but you don't want to send half the money back. I personally think this is a wonderful idea.

Pay the man. Oh, yeah. You're going to get into a schedule. That's not as blackmail when you start bringing in money in exchange for deleting product. Now an illegal thing to do as well. Yes. Yeah.

But other people are pointing out that offering to pay for someone's date should never be conditional. Conditional that the relationship works out. No, no. Conditional that they spend a night together or something like that. Don't say you're going to pay for something and then say, never mind after the fact. He made the decision to pay for their dates.

If he wanted to split it, he should have just said that prior. Yeah, I'm on her side. Tough. I just think, even just the wording, I think it's only fair. Even if you're broke. At the time you had the money to pay for her dinner, let sleeping dogs lie. About what?

Their age. Sure.